Agenda
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II. INVOCATION/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
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IV. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS
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V. SWEARING IN BY CITY ATTORNEY AND DISCLOSURE OF EXPARTE COMMUNICATIONS
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VI. READING OF ALL ORDINANCES/RESOLUTIONS INTO RECORD
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VII. CONSENT AGENDA
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VIII. RESOLUTIONS
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IX. ORDINANCES - PUBLIC HEARING
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First Reading
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Second Reading
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X. GENERAL GOVERNMENT
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XI. NEW BUSINESS
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XII. OLD BUSINESS
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XIII. AUDIENCE TO BE HEARD
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XIV. REPORTS
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XIV.7. City Administrator Report
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XIV.8. City Council Member Reports
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XV. ADJOURNMENT
[3:07]
I. CALL TO ORDER
[4:33]
II.1. Pastor Chase Allen, First Baptist Church of Umatilla
[5:34]
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
[6:23]
VII.2. Approval of the November 20, 2024, City Council Meeting Minutes (City Clerk)
[6:48]
X.3. Discuss Removing Fluoride from Drinking Water (Mayor)
[51:34]
X.4. Tavares Public Library – Happy and Healthy Holiday Series (Community Services)
[56:28]
X.5. Tavares Recreation Department - Fall Program Update (Community Services)
[1:12:32]
XII.6. Update on Rails To Trails Project (Public Works)
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[2:55]
Keep an eye on the cameras.
[2:58]
Library and recreation.
[3:01]
OK is there a box over there.
[3:02]
Get the thumbs up there.
[3:10]
Good afternoon, everyone.
[3:12]
Welcome to the
Tavares city council
[3:14]
meeting for December 4, 2024.
[3:18]
Before we get started, I would
like to bring in and introduce
[3:23]
the tarvarious high
school brass ensemble
[3:25]
who have been playing Christmas
music for us out in the lobby.
[3:27]
If they would come in and
be recognized, please.
[3:30]
Y'all come on in.
[3:33]
It's right there in the middle.
[3:35]
Just go in the middle there.
[3:37]
Middle left turn.
[3:41]
There you go.
[3:41]
There you go.
[3:43]
Turn around and think.
[3:46]
You look wonderful, all of you.
[3:47]
Sister wants to say something.
[3:49]
No, I just was.
[3:51]
No, I'm so happy that you
all are here again this year.
[3:54]
We just love it.
[3:55]
It kind of kicks off our.
[3:56]
Our Christmas
season, so Thank you.
[4:00]
Y'all are very, very good.
[4:02]
Thank you.
[4:03]
Thank you very much.
[4:04]
Thank you.
[4:06]
Thank you.
[4:09]
Now y'all can go get your cake.
[4:17]
And if anyone from
the public is here
[4:20]
to speak on any of
our agenda items,
[4:23]
please fill out one of
the request to speak.
[4:26]
They're on the back
table by the door
[4:27]
there and make sure you
give them to Phil Clark
[4:31]
and he'll get them
up here to us.
[4:34]
That's what we're
going to start with,
[4:36]
an invocation and pledge from
Pastor chase Allen of the First
[4:39]
Baptist church of Umatilla.
[4:44]
Well, good afternoon.
[4:46]
As always, every time you
guys allow me to come,
[4:47]
I'd like to say thank
you for allowing
[4:49]
me to come and represent first
Baptist church of Umatilla.
[4:51]
And most importantly, Jesus.
[4:52]
Let's pray.
[4:53]
Father, we love you.
[4:54]
And Thank you so much
for this afternoon.
[4:56]
God, I Thank you for this
great city, for all that
[4:58]
it stands for all that it does.
[5:00]
And so, Lord, I pray that you
would be with today's business,
[5:02]
that you would be
with today's dealings,
[5:04]
that you would be with
calm minds and cool hearts.
[5:07]
God, that you would
just allow business
[5:08]
to be taken care of
God, and that everything
[5:10]
that happens in
this room would be
[5:11]
honoring and glorifying to you.
[5:13]
Thank you so much
for your son, Jesus.
[5:14]
It's in his name.
[5:15]
We pray.
[5:15]
Amen Amen.
[5:18]
I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
[5:22]
and to the Republic
for which it stands.
[5:25]
One nation under
God, indivisible,
[5:28]
with liberty and
justice for all.
[5:30]
Thank you guys so much.
[5:32]
Thank you.
[5:33]
Thank you.
[5:41]
Are there any changes to
the agenda from staff.
[5:44]
None from staff.
[5:45]
Make a motion to
approve the agenda.
[5:48]
Second OK we have a motion duly
seconded to approve the agenda.
[5:53]
Any other discussion.
[5:55]
All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.
[5:57]
Aye Any opposed.
[5:59]
OK agenda has been adopted.
[6:02]
We have no proclamations
or presentations swearing
[6:07]
in by the city attorney
and disclosure of ex
[6:09]
parte communications.
[6:10]
Yes Thank you, Mayor.
[6:11]
There are no quasi judicial
matters on the agenda today.
[6:14]
And we have no
ordinance or resolutions
[6:20]
to read into the
record, is that correct.
[6:22]
That's correct.
[6:22]
Mayor, Thank you.
[6:23]
The consent agenda.
[6:28]
Council members
do I have a motion
[6:31]
to approve the consent agenda.
[6:32]
Make a motion to approve.
[6:33]
Second OK.
[6:35]
We have a motion and a second
to approve the consent agenda.
[6:37]
Any other discussion.
[6:39]
All in favor.
[6:40]
Signify by saying Aye.
[6:41]
Aye no resolutions
and no ordinances.
[6:47]
OK, so that moves
us into tab three.
[6:50]
The discussion of removing
fluoride from the drinking water
[6:54]
into the.
[7:01]
If you will, if everyone
here will indulge.
[7:05]
We're going to start out with a
video, a seven minute video that
[7:11]
will explain why we're here and
why the agenda item is before us
[7:18]
today.
[7:18]
So, Mark, do you want to
go ahead and start that up.
[7:27]
Good morning.
[7:28]
Thank you very much for
joining us here this morning.
[7:30]
I'm Dr. Joe Ladipo, the
surgeon general of Florida.
[7:34]
And I am joined today by
Dr. Ashley Mallon, who
[7:39]
is a professor at the
University of Florida, and Dr.
[7:42]
Claire Stagg, who is a dentist.
[7:45]
So thank you again
for joining us today.
[7:47]
I'd like to Thank
the Fairfax water
[7:49]
treatment plant for hosting us.
[7:52]
Water fluoridation has been
in the news a lot lately
[7:55]
and it started probably
a few months ago
[7:58]
when a judge ruled
that the EPA needed
[8:01]
to make some additional rules
about safety regarding water
[8:06]
fluoridation systems
and the policies
[8:09]
that communities in
the United States
[8:10]
follow related to
water fluoridation
[8:13]
in the United States.
[8:15]
In Florida, somewhere around
75% or 80% of Floridians
[8:19]
are in communities that
have water fluoridation.
[8:23]
As a medical physician, I
actually have historically
[8:27]
supported this practice.
[8:29]
It's something that we've
learned in medical school,
[8:31]
is a public health
measure that is helpful
[8:35]
and is something that as a
physician, we should support.
[8:39]
The ruling several months ago
prompted me and other people
[8:43]
to look more closely
at the issue,
[8:45]
and that ruling was
based on a report
[8:47]
that the National Toxicology
Program assembled, that they
[8:52]
started actually
working on it years ago,
[8:54]
reviewing data and studies of
harms and benefits associated
[9:00]
with water fluoridation
and increased
[9:02]
levels of fluoride in water.
[9:05]
And as I started both
reading this report
[9:08]
and reading the actual studies
that the report was based on I
[9:14]
was appalled, frankly, to just
to be completely Frank with you,
[9:18]
while there's no question that
fluoride is like other minerals,
[9:24]
an important mineral
and fluoride absolutely,
[9:26]
positively can strengthen
teeth, it is also the case
[9:30]
that fluoride is neurotoxic
and the effects in terms
[9:37]
of any neurologic effects
or any behavioral effects
[9:40]
are actually something that
have been in the literature
[9:43]
for many years.
[9:45]
When this issue has
arisen in the past.
[9:47]
What you've typically heard from
organizations like the American
[9:51]
Dental Association, and
many of my colleagues,
[9:54]
and frankly, you probably would
have heard it from me if I had
[9:57]
been asked, is that the studies
that have found harms related
[10:02]
to fluoridation were
in communities that
[10:05]
had much higher
levels of fluoride
[10:07]
than what we allow here
in the United States.
[10:11]
Well, the fact is that
not only, first of all,
[10:14]
did these studies find really
very, very bad outcomes.
[10:18]
Specifically, many,
many studies have
[10:22]
found a relationship between
fluoride and fluoride
[10:26]
exposure and intelligence.
[10:28]
So typically, the relationship
is somewhere on the order
[10:33]
of a half a standard
deviation drop
[10:36]
in IQ in areas with higher
levels of fluoridation,
[10:39]
which is a profound
effect on health
[10:42]
and has profound implications.
[10:45]
But there are also
neuropsychiatric risks
[10:48]
that have been raised, including
things like attention deficit
[10:52]
hyperactivity disorder,
including things like problems
[10:56]
with executive function
and decision making
[10:58]
and other behavioral
problems in children.
[11:01]
And so the typical criticism
has been that these studies were
[11:05]
in countries like China or
India where say, the naturally
[11:09]
occurring amounts of fluoride
are much higher than what we
[11:12]
have here in the United States.
[11:15]
Well, it turns out that,
in fact, that wasn't true.
[11:18]
So in the last
five or six years,
[11:21]
there have been several studies
that have been published.
[11:24]
Dr. Malin has actually
published some of these studies
[11:27]
in communities in Canada, also
in the United States, where
[11:32]
levels of fluoride
are actually quite
[11:34]
similar to the levels that
we have here in this state
[11:38]
and in this country.
[11:40]
And these studies have actually
found the same findings
[11:43]
that moms and children exposed
to higher levels of fluoride
[11:50]
have experienced adverse
neurologic and neuropsychiatric
[11:55]
effects.
[11:55]
I mean, it's appalling, but
it's actually been documented
[11:59]
in multiple studies now.
[12:01]
So based on these findings
and in recognition of the fact
[12:07]
that there are other
sources of fluoride
[12:10]
that people in communities have
access to whether it's brushing
[12:14]
with fluoridated toothpaste or
whether it's using a fluoride
[12:19]
mouthwash.
[12:20]
And there are other sources too.
[12:22]
People go to the
dentist and receive
[12:23]
fluoride there that it is.
[12:26]
It is.
[12:26]
It is public health malpractice
with the information
[12:30]
that we have now to
continue adding fluoride
[12:34]
to water systems in Florida.
[12:37]
It is public health malpractice.
[12:39]
And so we are issuing
guidance to every community,
[12:43]
every municipality,
every County in Florida
[12:47]
to stop adding fluoride to
their community water systems.
[12:53]
And I will tell you that
the data that we have,
[12:57]
the studies that
we have primarily
[12:59]
are focused on pregnant
women and children.
[13:02]
Those are clearly the most
sensitive and vulnerable
[13:04]
populations for
fluoridation in terms
[13:07]
of these adverse
neuropsychiatric effects.
[13:10]
But I personally
in my family, we've
[13:13]
pulled back in terms
of sources of fluoride
[13:16]
because we're concerned
about the effects.
[13:19]
There's less research there.
[13:21]
My sense is that
those that research
[13:23]
will also show adverse effects
and that remains to be seen.
[13:27]
But in this day and age,
with the additional sources
[13:30]
of fluoride that
people have access to
[13:32]
it is public health malpractice
to continue adding fluoride
[13:36]
to community water systems
that women and pregnant women
[13:40]
and children have access to.
[13:43]
So that's the announcement
that we're making today.
[13:46]
We'll be issuing
formal guidance that's
[13:49]
going to be available
for every Floridian
[13:51]
to read and to better
understand why we're
[13:54]
making this recommendation.
[13:55]
And we have a tool
for Floridians
[13:59]
to look up their dresses and
see whether their communities
[14:03]
add fluoride to the water.
[14:05]
And we encourage we encourage
municipalities and counties
[14:08]
to look at the guidance to make
the decision that is in the best
[14:11]
interest of your
communities here
[14:15]
in Florida and your
local communities.
[14:17]
And we encourage Floridians
to look at the guidance
[14:19]
and speak to your local
leaders, because this
[14:22]
is something that has been
defended for a long time.
[14:25]
And it is public
health malpractice
[14:28]
to continue doing it.
[14:29]
So next, we're going to have.
[14:34]
And for those of
you that would like
[14:36]
to watch the rest of that
video in your own time,
[14:39]
it's on YouTube.
[14:40]
It goes on for about
20 minutes total.
[14:43]
The interview is a dentist, a
doctor and some other people
[14:47]
that are also in favor
of removing fluoride
[14:50]
from community water systems.
[14:54]
So at this point.
[14:56]
We're going to start
with our public comment.
[15:03]
We're I'll start with
Dr. Johnny Johnson.
[15:11]
Please state your name
and address for the record
[15:12]
and you have three minutes.
[15:15]
33 3.
[15:17]
OK I could fill up for
hours, but that's OK.
[15:21]
My name is Johnny Johnson.
[15:22]
I'm a pediatric dentist.
[15:24]
I live in Chiefland, Florida.
[15:25]
P.o. box 2,450.
[15:27]
I'm also the president of the
American Fluoridation Society.
[15:30]
Like our sister organization
in the UK, British Fluoridation
[15:34]
Society and in Canada
Canadian Fluoridation Society,
[15:37]
we disseminate evidence
based scientific information
[15:40]
from around the world
on water fluoridation,
[15:42]
good, bad, or otherwise.
[15:44]
I will tell you that the
benefits of fluoridation
[15:46]
are well established.
[15:48]
There's no doubt that
there are benefits
[15:51]
of at least 25% to 50% cavity
reductions for everybody.
[15:55]
Those that are the most
impoverished, those
[15:57]
of in your town that are 10% one
out of every 10 people you walk
[16:02]
by that live in
poverty, they have
[16:05]
double the number of cavities
that all the rest of us do.
[16:08]
They don't get to go to
the dentist hardly at all.
[16:11]
If ever.
[16:11]
The only preventive
tooth, the only
[16:13]
preventive dental
protection that they get
[16:16]
is fluoridated water.
[16:18]
What happens when you
remove fluoridated water.
[16:22]
Two cities, three
cities for Israel.
[16:25]
Juneau, Alaska.
[16:27]
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
and Windsor, Ontario.
[16:30]
Remove fluoride from
your water fluoridation.
[16:33]
In Calgary, they saw
a huge, huge increase
[16:37]
in cavities from 2011 when
they stopped it to 2019
[16:41]
when they reinstated it.
[16:43]
The rises were so
horrible that these kids
[16:47]
had to go to the
hospital for treatment
[16:49]
under operating room
with general anesthesia.
[16:51]
The increases were skyrocketing.
[16:53]
They've reimplemented it.
[16:55]
It's going to go back down.
[16:57]
Buffalo, New York, stopped
in 2015, didn't tell anybody.
[17:01]
They were going to move
some equipment around.
[17:03]
Investigative journalists
found out about it in 2022.
[17:07]
Revealed it.
[17:09]
Class action lawsuit was brought
against the city of Buffalo.
[17:12]
I'm not threatening lawsuits.
[17:13]
I'm just giving you facts.
[17:15]
The city of Buffalo.
[17:17]
The two attorneys brought a
lawsuit, 1 over $160 million
[17:21]
just settled.
[17:22]
And that money was
not for pocket money.
[17:24]
That money was to go towards
setting up clinics to treat
[17:27]
the kids that had been harmed.
[17:29]
That's all.
[17:30]
That's what happens when
you stop fluoridation.
[17:33]
Your community saves over
$600,000 in dental treatment
[17:37]
costs by fluoridating
water, $32 per person per
[17:42]
person every year,
taxable money that
[17:45]
they get to spend in your city.
[17:46]
They don't get taxed
on the money when they
[17:48]
go spending at the dentist.
[17:50]
Lastly, let me also
say that Dr. lopatto.
[17:54]
The adipose excuse me is
entitled to his own opinions,
[17:57]
but not his own facts.
[17:59]
He is 100% wrong in
what he's saying.
[18:02]
We have fantastic research
from around the world
[18:04]
where we know what
people are taking
[18:06]
in as far as fluoridated water.
[18:08]
And there are no changes.
[18:10]
The studies he's
referring to they
[18:12]
have no clue what
the intakes are.
[18:14]
They're just measuring it
in urine from a biobank.
[18:17]
And I can go into that
much further if you'd like.
[18:19]
All right.
[18:20]
Thank you.
[18:20]
Thank you.
[18:20]
Keep please keep
fluoridation in your water.
[18:27]
Dr. Wade Winkler.
[18:30]
Please state your name and
address for the record.
[18:33]
And you have three minutes.
[18:36]
Thank you.
[18:37]
Good afternoon.
[18:38]
I'm Dr. Wade Winker and
I live at 728 Boylston
[18:42]
Street in Leesburg, Florida.
[18:44]
I commend the commissioners
for considering
[18:47]
this important preventive
Healthcare Initiative.
[18:49]
I rise in support of community
water fluoridation for Tavares.
[18:54]
I'm a Leesburg resident
and practiced dentistry
[18:57]
in Eustis for 29 years.
[18:59]
My family resides
in Leesburg, where
[19:01]
community water
fluoridation is scheduled
[19:04]
to be reinstated early in 2025.
[19:08]
The information I'm
about to share with you
[19:11]
is from the Center
for Disease Control.
[19:13]
Community water fluoridation
has been identified
[19:16]
as the most cost of excuse me.
[19:20]
Effective method of
delivering fluoride
[19:23]
to all members of the
community, regardless
[19:25]
of age, educational
attainment or income level.
[19:29]
By preventing tooth decay,
community water fluoridation
[19:33]
has been shown to save
money both for families
[19:35]
and for the health care system.
[19:37]
Too many of our residents.
[19:40]
Too many of our residents
present to our hospital
[19:43]
emergency departments
and urgent care clinics
[19:46]
for treatment of dental related
emergencies, which put an added
[19:50]
strain on a health care
system that is already
[19:52]
overburdened and understaffed.
[19:55]
Hospitals do not
provide emergency
[19:58]
dental care into various.
[20:00]
The return on investment over
would be over $26 million over
[20:05]
10 years based on a $75,000 a
year annual maintenance cost
[20:11]
that as Dr. Johnson
just said, that's $30
[20:15]
saved for every dollar spent.
[20:21]
We can also prevent countless
amount of pain, suffering, loss
[20:25]
of productivity and
improve quality of life.
[20:28]
I support community water
fluoridation for tavaris.
[20:31]
This will be a tremendous health
benefit for tavaris residents.
[20:35]
Let's give our children a
fighting chance for a lifetime
[20:38]
of dental health.
[20:40]
I leave you with a question.
[20:41]
Will we allocate $3.75
per resident per year
[20:47]
to protect them
from dental decay.
[20:49]
Or will we continue
to allow our residents
[20:52]
to spend an additional
$2.6 million a year.
[20:58]
In local dentists offices.
[21:01]
A couple of points to what the
surgeon general had to share.
[21:04]
All of the reports that he cited
where he's saying that there
[21:08]
were adverse effect,
we're well aware
[21:10]
of that, which is why the
recommended percentage
[21:13]
is at 0.7 part per million.
[21:17]
All of the reports
that he references
[21:19]
are where it's more
than double that.
[21:23]
And we know that there concerns
when you start raising that you
[21:28]
may not in the wrong
concentration water
[21:31]
can kill you hypokalemia.
[21:34]
Look it up.
[21:34]
People die from
drinking too much water.
[21:37]
Nothing in it.
[21:38]
I rise in support
of fluoridation.
[21:41]
Thank you.
[21:44]
Dr. Alan Hayes.
[21:48]
We state your name and
address for the record.
[21:52]
Thank you, Mr Mayor,
and good afternoon,
[21:54]
commissioners and staff.
[21:56]
It's good to see you all.
[21:58]
I'm Alan Hayes.
[21:59]
I practice dentistry in
Umatilla for 27 years.
[22:03]
I reside on B&B
road in Umatilla.
[22:05]
For the last 20 years, I've
been an elected official in this
[22:08]
state and one sort or another.
[22:10]
I'm here today completely
embarrassed by the four times
[22:14]
that Surgeon General
stated medical malpractice,
[22:18]
public health malpractice.
[22:20]
That is one big pile of baloney,
pure garbage, to be very candid.
[22:27]
And I would tell him that if he
were sitting here or standing
[22:30]
here today, I
vehemently disagree
[22:33]
with the characterization
that the surgeon
[22:35]
general of this
great state has put
[22:37]
on the wonderful addition of
fluoride in the proper dosage
[22:44]
to the drinking water.
[22:45]
The residents of
Tavares are currently
[22:48]
blessed with that benefit.
[22:50]
You have heard from two
other dental professionals.
[22:54]
You got to understand, folks,
if we were in it for the money,
[22:57]
we would say, please
don't put fluoride in.
[23:00]
It's going to be more
money in the dentist pocket
[23:02]
and less money in the.
[23:04]
And it really doesn't have
anything to do with money.
[23:06]
It's about the health of
those children and the adults
[23:10]
that they're going to become
to be maximally effective.
[23:15]
The fluoride ion must be
incorporated in the enamel rod
[23:19]
as it's being formed in
the jawbone of the infant
[23:23]
and the youngster.
[23:25]
It's most effective if it
happens before the age of 16.
[23:29]
He mentioned the application
of topical fluoride gels
[23:33]
and toothpaste and things
that all of that is temporary.
[23:37]
That's like your wife putting
on some makeup in the morning
[23:42]
and the first time
she cries, it's
[23:44]
going to run down the cheek.
[23:46]
And if she doesn't cry all day
long, she's going to take it off
[23:49]
before she goes to bed at night.
[23:50]
The superficial application
of topical fluoride
[23:54]
is advantageous, but it doesn't
do anywhere near the benefit
[23:59]
that the incorporation of
this is in the formation
[24:03]
of that enamel.
[24:04]
It's just the best thing to do.
[24:08]
If you want to do the right
thing, you do nothing.
[24:12]
Keep the fluoride in the
water as you're doing already.
[24:15]
Thank you.
[24:17]
Thank you.
[24:20]
Justin Harvey.
[24:25]
Please state your name and
address for the record.
[24:32]
My name is Justin Harvey.
[24:34]
I live at 103 South Osceola.
[24:35]
Orlando 32801.
[24:38]
I'm here to speak in full
support of removing fluoride
[24:41]
from the public's water supply.
[24:42]
As you all have noted, the
Florida surgeon general
[24:44]
has advised all communities
to halt the practice of water
[24:47]
fluoridation and has called
it public health malpractice
[24:50]
to continue doing so.
[24:52]
The incoming health and Human
Services director, Robert F
[24:54]
Kennedy jr. is going to
oversee all major health
[24:57]
agencies said on January 20.
[24:59]
They're going to advise all
US Water Systems to halt water
[25:02]
fluoridation as it is quote,
an industrial waste associated
[25:06]
with arthritis,
bone fractures, bone
[25:08]
cancer, IQ loss,
neurodevelopmental disorders
[25:12]
and thyroid disease.
[25:14]
So far, Collier County,
Brooksville, Winter Haven
[25:16]
and Stuart, Florida have
all removed fluoride
[25:18]
from the public's water supply,
with many more communities,
[25:21]
including yourself and Naples,
talking about this today
[25:24]
and in the coming weeks.
[25:25]
Two other important factors
to remember with this.
[25:27]
We are indeed mass
medicating the public
[25:30]
without their informed consent.
[25:31]
Since when did
local officials get
[25:33]
tasked with the
responsibility of putting
[25:35]
medicine in the water.
[25:36]
Doesn't really make
much sense, does it.
[25:38]
We don't put antidepressants
or statins in the water.
[25:40]
Why are we adding fluoride
to treat gum or teeth.
[25:44]
This is a mass medication
without informed consent.
[25:48]
If you also remember RFK jr.
called this an industrial waste.
[25:52]
Well, he's right.
[25:52]
This is not naturally
occurring fluoride.
[25:55]
It's from the groundwater.
[25:56]
As many mainstream
media news articles will
[25:58]
quote that this is natural.
[25:59]
This is hydrofluosilicic
acid, something
[26:02]
bought from a third party.
[26:04]
It is from the
phosphate and fertilizer
[26:05]
industry, a substance
that is so toxic that it
[26:08]
can't be dumped anywhere.
[26:09]
So they have found what they can
do is sell it to municipalities
[26:12]
and spread it very thin and
put it in the water supply.
[26:15]
As a fluoridating agent,
there are no safety
[26:17]
studies on this substance.
[26:18]
It is so dangerous it
will eat through steel,
[26:21]
glass and concrete.
[26:22]
A utility worker
once told me they
[26:24]
would prefer not to deal with
it because it is so dangerous.
[26:26]
They don't want the
liability on their workers.
[26:29]
So you can by
ending fluoridation,
[26:31]
you will not only save money,
you will prevent your workers
[26:34]
from dealing with
this hazardous waste
[26:36]
chemical, which why are we
adding that to the water anyway.
[26:39]
You will not be mass
medicating the public anymore
[26:41]
and we can get the neurotoxin
out of the public's water supply
[26:44]
that is posing this
unreasonable risk that
[26:47]
is cited from a federal judge.
[26:49]
The individuals before me cite
this as Dr. oladipo's opinion,
[26:52]
but it is not it is clearly
from a federal judge ruling
[26:56]
that this is a neurotoxin,
something that we have
[26:59]
been stating for a decade now.
[27:01]
And in case you're
wondering how we're
[27:02]
going to protect
the public's teeth,
[27:04]
people can supplement
on their own.
[27:05]
We've got data from fluoridated
and non-fluoridated communities
[27:08]
and there is no
significant difference.
[27:10]
Look at Portland, Oregon,
who has never fluoridated.
[27:13]
You can match that with
other countries overseas.
[27:16]
Most of the world
does not fluoridate.
[27:18]
It's actually America
that is heavily
[27:19]
fluoridated as 5% of the
entire world fluoridated.
[27:23]
In closing, I would just
like to say Winter Springs
[27:25]
and Castleberry have been
fluoride free for decades,
[27:27]
citing health concerns
and informed consent.
[27:29]
The public should have
the right to choose
[27:31]
what goes into their water.
[27:32]
Let's end the practice today.
[27:34]
Thank you very much.
[27:34]
Thank you.
[27:37]
Chad Cameron.
[27:43]
Please state your name and
address for the record.
[27:48]
My name is Chad Cameron.
[27:50]
I reside at 10:09 Second
Avenue, Crescent City.
[27:55]
Today I stand before you
with a grave concern that
[27:57]
should alarm each one of us.
[27:58]
The presence of fluoride
in our drinking water.
[28:00]
This isn't merely a
water treatment issue.
[28:04]
It's a pressing
public health crisis
[28:06]
demanding immediate action.
[28:08]
Fluoride has been classified as
a neurotoxin, a substance that
[28:11]
can harm our nervous system.
[28:13]
Florida surgeon general.
[28:14]
As we saw, said
it's a public health
[28:16]
malpractice to continue
adding fluoride to the water
[28:19]
systems in Florida.
[28:21]
And he urged every
community to ceasefire
[28:23]
this practice immediately.
[28:24]
Fluoride toxicity
is well documented
[28:26]
in the science is settled.
[28:28]
The National toxicity
program conducted
[28:30]
a comprehensive review,
culminating in a 2024 report.
[28:34]
This report concluded
that fluoride
[28:36]
exposure from drinking
water is associated
[28:38]
with lower IQ in children.
[28:39]
Furthermore, September
27, 2024, federal court
[28:44]
has mandated that the EPA
strengthen its regulations
[28:47]
on fluoride, citing the
current level possesses
[28:50]
an unreasonable
risk, particularly
[28:53]
to infants and pregnant women.
[28:54]
Toothpaste labels warn
us to call poison control
[28:56]
if a pea sized amount
of if ingested,
[29:00]
if a pea sized amount
necessitates such caution, why
[29:04]
is it in our drinking water.
[29:06]
At least with toothpaste,
people can choose,
[29:08]
but with water they
are denied this choice.
[29:09]
And that's criminal.
[29:10]
In my opinion, the stakes
are immense, especially when
[29:13]
children with their
developing brains
[29:15]
are highly susceptible
to toxic substances.
[29:18]
The consequence the health and
future of our next generation.
[29:22]
Why should we accept the
deliberate addition of such
[29:24]
a chemical in our water.
[29:26]
Ethically, this is indefensible.
[29:28]
We are being medicated,
poisoned without our consent,
[29:32]
a violation of our
fundamental rights
[29:34]
to choose what enters our
body in a society that
[29:37]
cherishes personal freedoms.
[29:39]
How is this acceptable.
[29:40]
This is not just about
public health policy.
[29:43]
It's a personal it's about
personal autonomy and freedom.
[29:48]
Let's also consider the
environmental impact.
[29:50]
The byproducts of
fluoridation can
[29:52]
leach into ecosystems, harming
aquatic life and biodiversity.
[29:55]
Moreover, the economic
burden is significant.
[29:58]
Maintaining these fluoridation
systems is a waste of resources.
[30:01]
How can you justify spending
money to poison our community.
[30:04]
The fact that I need to
take time out of my day
[30:06]
and come here and educate you
on the dangers of a documented
[30:08]
neurotoxin is beyond insane.
[30:11]
If I could fire all of you, who
would even consider supporting
[30:15]
neurotoxins in drinking water.
[30:16]
I would.
[30:17]
In closing, let me reiterate
the Surgeon General's words.
[30:20]
It is public health
malpractice to continue adding
[30:24]
fluoride to our water systems.
[30:26]
So I ask you, are you
going to heed the advice
[30:27]
of the Surgeon General.
[30:29]
Will you continue to
use taxpayer money
[30:31]
to poison the
community, or will you
[30:33]
choose to protect the children.
[30:35]
You have the power
to change this.
[30:37]
I will remind you,
with great power
[30:38]
comes great responsibility.
[30:40]
You are responsible.
[30:41]
All of you are responsible.
[30:43]
You can either heal or harm.
[30:45]
Please make the right choice.
[30:47]
Thank you.
[30:51]
Is there anyone else.
[30:55]
OK, we will close public
comment and the remainder
[30:59]
will be comments from
the council members.
[31:02]
Who would like to start.
[31:04]
Well, I thought we were
going to hear from Mr Clark.
[31:08]
The cost factor of this.
[31:10]
Sure you're more than welcome
to ask them Mr. Clark.
[31:15]
What do you want, Sandy.
[31:16]
I think it said that you were
going to give us an update
[31:20]
of how much it costs us.
[31:22]
Yes so annually.
[31:27]
The chemical itself is around
$15,000, about $5 a gallon.
[31:32]
OK, back up.
[31:33]
Chemical that's
the chemical alone.
[31:36]
I have a cumulative cost.
[31:38]
The water staff, with their
sampling and their maintenance
[31:41]
of the equipment
and their drive time
[31:43]
is around 4 to $5,000 a year.
[31:46]
That's the water staff.
[31:48]
The lab staff who do
analysts and doubt
[31:51]
prepare reports deal with
the regulatory people.
[31:54]
Their cost is around
3 to $5,000 a year.
[31:57]
Equipment maintenance,
which is pumps because it's
[32:00]
very, very harsh stuff.
[32:02]
So we have to
replace the equipment
[32:04]
and keep it up and maintain.
[32:05]
That's around $5,000 a year.
[32:07]
We do $1,000 a year
on the poly tank
[32:12]
depreciation because
about every 12 years
[32:14]
we have to buy a $15,000 tank.
[32:17]
So add all that up.
[32:18]
It's about $30,000 a year.
[32:20]
Do we add anything
else to our water.
[32:22]
Chlorine?
[32:24]
no, not chlorine.
[32:26]
Yes, sir.
[32:28]
OK because, I mean, if you were
to ingest chlorine by itself,
[32:31]
isn't that harmful.
[32:32]
Yes, sir.
[32:33]
OK I just.
[32:36]
Concern because I went
to my personal doctor
[32:39]
yesterday for a checkup and
which I'm good right now
[32:42]
I don't know about after the
meeting, but I'm good right now.
[32:45]
And he educated me on
some things as well.
[32:50]
He's been doing physicals for
athletics in various high school
[32:55]
for many, many years.
[32:57]
And his father before him.
[32:58]
And he has noticed
over a period of times
[33:02]
that the students from Tavares
itself versus the students
[33:08]
from astatula or Bassfield
park or somewhere else
[33:11]
outside the city
limits, that their teeth
[33:14]
are stronger than the ones
that are outside the city.
[33:17]
So I'm like, OK.
[33:21]
So what I'm hearing is also
and somebody called me today
[33:25]
and I don't know if
they liked my answer
[33:28]
because some of what was
presented here today,
[33:31]
on one side, if it's not.
[33:36]
Taking care of and
it's not monitored
[33:38]
as far as the proper amount is.
[33:41]
Where I understand the
harm is where it's at.
[33:45]
And if you do also
and I pulled up,
[33:48]
I don't know how many
people like the eye,
[33:51]
but I pulled up eye and I
asked, how harmful is it if
[33:55]
or is there any benefit.
[33:56]
Because this one person
said, well, kids don't drink
[33:58]
water today like they used to.
[34:02]
OK So a lot of little
kids drink Kool-Aid.
[34:05]
So if it's.
[34:06]
If they drink Kool-Aid, does
the fluoride still benefit them.
[34:10]
And they said Yes.
[34:12]
Even in the Kool-Aid.
[34:14]
So with what I'm hearing
today, you got one side that
[34:18]
says it's not good for you.
[34:19]
You got one side that
says it is OK for you.
[34:22]
And it's been
operating since 95.
[34:25]
That's 29 years that we've been
in operation going on right
[34:29]
at 30 close.
[34:30]
And we haven't had
that much of a case.
[34:33]
And the thing about.
[34:37]
Every time something like this
comes up, it's cancer related.
[34:41]
Cancer this cancer that.
[34:43]
Well, you might want
to stop breathing
[34:45]
the air you're breathing
now because you
[34:46]
may get cancer from that.
[34:50]
But the thing is it
beneficial for our children.
[34:55]
Yes, it is.
[34:58]
As long as it's in
the proper amounts
[35:01]
and as long as we're monitoring
that, I got no problem with it.
[35:07]
So, Mr Clark, can
you explain how
[35:11]
much fluoride we have in our
water and how that's taken
[35:15]
care of.
[35:16]
Yes so naturally we have
about 0.07 part per million
[35:22]
naturally in the water.
[35:25]
The EPA has recommended
dosage of 0.7 to 1.3.
[35:30]
Their maximum
level is 2 to four.
[35:35]
If you exceed two
part per million,
[35:38]
you have to report
that to your residents.
[35:40]
We've never exceeded
two actually,
[35:43]
we averaged 0.7,
which is the lower
[35:46]
end of the residual
recommended for public use.
[35:51]
So I'm looking at a
year's worth of data
[35:54]
and our largest residual was
0.72, which is in the lower
[35:59]
end of the EPA regulation.
[36:02]
OK we have never exceeded 0.73.
[36:07]
So we're it's well regulated.
[36:10]
We have a very
constant water source.
[36:13]
So the fluoride is very,
very, very constant at about
[36:16]
a 0.71 part per million.
[36:19]
And we dose about
that with chlorine,
[36:22]
you may dose four parts per
million to get two parts per
[36:25]
million residual because it's
eaten up by demand and it also
[36:28]
dissipates, fluoride doesn't.
[36:30]
So if you put 0.7 part
per million of fluoride
[36:33]
in it, the plant, you're
going to get about that
[36:35]
anywhere in your system as long
as you're low proportion dosage.
[36:40]
So very regulated on our
dosage, very stringent.
[36:44]
It's tested daily, it's tested
in monthly in a certified lab.
[36:49]
So I have a year's
worth of data and
[36:52]
we've never gone above
0.72 residual of fluoride
[36:56]
in the water.
[36:57]
And, I did my own
research and by no means
[37:00]
do I consider myself
an expert at all.
[37:02]
I have to rely on
the information
[37:04]
that I can receive from the
experts that have spoken here.
[37:07]
Our surgeon general
and just have to make
[37:08]
a decision based on that.
[37:10]
And the things that
I've seen is it
[37:12]
seems like the studies say
that the fluoride in too much
[37:18]
quantity is not good for you.
[37:20]
But as we're seeing
here, the municipalities
[37:23]
are able to regulate that,
and that's beneficial
[37:27]
to our underserved community.
[37:29]
And I trust, what our utilities
director has just said here,
[37:35]
that we're dosing
the proper amount
[37:37]
that needs to be served
to help the individuals
[37:41]
in our community.
[37:44]
I know you brought this up in
the year that I was off counsel
[37:52]
and there was a discussion
about bringing a workshop.
[37:54]
And first of all, I'm
sitting here thinking,
[37:55]
why wasn't there an
advertised workshop for this.
[37:57]
It really is important.
[37:58]
This is a safety
and health issue.
[38:00]
The money aside, it's a
safety and health issue.
[38:03]
And I wish instead of just
coming here at City council
[38:06]
meeting and having to
respond back and forth as we
[38:10]
see great responses
on both sides
[38:15]
of the aisle on this bad good.
[38:18]
And there's bad and good.
[38:20]
And you have we're
sitting up here having now
[38:21]
to make a decision by 5,
6 people coming up here
[38:25]
and saying things where we could
have had a workshop advertised
[38:28]
workshop That could have gone
over a few weeks, a few days
[38:32]
to talk about this because I
know you can't just well, let's
[38:35]
do a test on this and take
the fluoride out for a month
[38:38]
and then see what happens
I don't believe you can get
[38:40]
a good test from
that, especially
[38:43]
since fluoride was put
in there since 1995
[38:46]
here in the city of Tavares.
[38:48]
I wish that this is
what we would have done.
[38:50]
I'm still sitting
here studying this
[38:52]
and I've been studying
this for the last
[38:53]
since I got my agenda on Friday.
[38:56]
So I'm sitting here doing this
self-study on all the stuff
[38:58]
and listening to people,
but it's even on both sides.
[39:02]
So I'm sitting
here, what do I do.
[39:04]
What decision I make.
[39:04]
I see somebody come up.
[39:05]
OK We'll take it out.
[39:07]
See nobody.
[39:07]
OK, we'll leave it in.
[39:09]
I still want more data.
[39:12]
I still want more information.
[39:13]
I still want to hear more.
[39:14]
I want workshops.
[39:15]
I want.
[39:16]
We have 23,000 people
in the city of Tavares.
[39:18]
I want to hear more
advertised workshops
[39:21]
to see these people come in here
and see what they have to say.
[39:24]
I really do.
[39:25]
I think this is something
that we just can't right here
[39:28]
after this is my first time
discussing this matter, to have
[39:32]
a half a dozen people come
up, not even to say Yay or nay
[39:36]
on this and what we should do.
[39:37]
I really think we
should step back here.
[39:41]
Step back.
[39:42]
Let's set some
advertise workshops.
[39:45]
I'll even get people
out there to come.
[39:48]
And we need to discuss
this as a community.
[39:51]
As a community.
[39:53]
We did this years ago
when we wanted to have
[39:56]
a direction for our town.
[39:57]
Which way are we to go.
[39:58]
How are we to develop.
[40:00]
America's seaplane city
was born from that.
[40:02]
Now we're sitting here with
a health and safety issue.
[40:04]
And again, the money
I'm putting that aside
[40:06]
because it's a health
and safety issue
[40:08]
that we're discussing here.
[40:10]
I say we need to bring in
more people to discuss this.
[40:13]
I really do, because
I'm seeing Yay
[40:15]
or nay on both sides of this.
[40:17]
I see one person.
[40:18]
OK I think maybe
we'll take it out.
[40:21]
Let's see the next person.
[40:22]
Maybe we should leave it in.
[40:23]
That's my view at this
moment, as I sit here.
[40:30]
Vice mayor.
[40:31]
OK well, I'm.
[40:35]
I'm not really
interested in a workshop.
[40:37]
This is.
[40:38]
It's kind of something
medical related to me,
[40:42]
and I just don't want
to have a workshop.
[40:44]
I don't mind putting it off and.
[40:46]
And at the next meeting and
having a vote and giving
[40:50]
me time, because I'm.
[40:52]
I'm a little disturbed with
what I've heard here tonight.
[40:55]
I've heard that it's good.
[40:58]
It's good.
[40:58]
It's good.
[40:59]
And then I've heard it's bad.
[41:00]
It's bad.
[41:00]
It's bad.
[41:00]
And both of them were very
I believe both of them.
[41:06]
So I'm confused with that.
[41:08]
But then the next thing is I
have a council member telling me
[41:11]
that the guy doing the sports
physical is also doing a dental.
[41:16]
When do they do dental
checkups for a sports physical.
[41:19]
I mean, I don't
really believe that.
[41:21]
And then the water with the.
[41:24]
Yeah, but I don't
ever remember them.
[41:26]
They never looked
in my son's mouth
[41:27]
when we were doing a
sports physical they
[41:30]
weren't looking at his teeth.
[41:31]
But anyway and then
the thing about you
[41:34]
mix it with the Kool-Aid
because nobody drinks
[41:36]
water, which is true.
[41:38]
So the fluoride is still
in there with the Kool-Aid.
[41:42]
It's still water,
but yet my doctor
[41:46]
tells me to drink more water.
[41:47]
And I say, well, I
drink tea all day
[41:49]
and no, that's not the
same thing as water.
[41:52]
Or beer.
[41:54]
Beer is a lot of water in.
[41:56]
But yet they say no,
you can't count that,
[41:58]
but yet you can count
Kool-Aid for fluoride.
[42:01]
So I'm confused
with that one too.
[42:03]
And I know Councilmember
gamble, you got your information
[42:07]
from wherever, and I
just need a little time
[42:09]
to get my own information.
[42:11]
So I would like to bring
this back at the very
[42:14]
next council meeting.
[42:16]
And as council member
Grenier, I just
[42:20]
got this information on Friday.
[42:22]
It was on the agenda.
[42:23]
I'm going to be honest, I
didn't look at my agenda
[42:26]
until probably Monday,
and I saw it on there.
[42:28]
And I didn't really
think much of it.
[42:30]
I really didn't
understand why we
[42:32]
were bringing it back up because
I have failed to watch the news.
[42:36]
I did hear RFK jr.
just saying that he'd
[42:41]
like to take the fluoride out.
[42:43]
I didn't really understand why.
[42:46]
That anyway, I'm kind
of torn with this,
[42:50]
and I believe both of y'all,
but I wouldn't be doing I
[42:53]
wouldn't be doing my job here
if I just made a haphazard
[42:57]
decision on what I want to do.
[42:59]
So I think I want a little
bit more information.
[43:02]
And I really don't want a
study from Australia that
[43:06]
really didn't do much for me.
[43:07]
I mean, I don't want to look
at an Australian dental study
[43:11]
that was given to me.
[43:12]
So I think I want to
get more information.
[43:15]
I want real figures on
what the fluoride, show me
[43:20]
the different cities
and you know fluoride so
[43:23]
easy to come by they
can for $1 they can
[43:25]
get a gallon of fluoride water.
[43:27]
If you're telling
me that it's good,
[43:29]
you really need this up
till 16 years of age.
[43:31]
Well, if they're not going to
take their kid to the dentist,
[43:35]
well, at least by the gallons
or when they get their whatever,
[43:40]
food assistance let them
get their fluoride water,
[43:46]
I think that's a
way to still do it.
[43:47]
But that's not fair to say.
[43:49]
Let's take it out.
[43:50]
So I really want to bring this
back at our very next meeting
[43:54]
that gives each
of us two weeks to
[43:57]
and I think the city
can help us by finding.
[44:02]
Some true reports and where
we can compare to cities that
[44:07]
do have and I know you all have
mentioned that but you're here
[44:10]
and you're on your side.
[44:12]
So of course, if you
want the fluoride,
[44:15]
you're going to tell me a
story about not a story.
[44:17]
I don't mean it's not the truth,
but you're going to tell me
[44:19]
about how it is in this city.
[44:21]
But I want to go out and do a
generic little research myself
[44:25]
and find out exactly
what's going on.
[44:27]
So that's where I'm
going to leave it.
[44:29]
So I'd like we're
going to hear from you,
[44:32]
Mr. price, but go ahead and
then I'll make a motion.
[44:36]
Well, I have here's my concerns
with the fluoride issue.
[44:43]
First off, in Lake
County, we have 14 cities.
[44:47]
And only three of them.
[44:49]
Currently have fluoride
in their water.
[44:52]
That's Tavares,
Eustis and Umatilla
[44:54]
and Leesburg just voted a
few months ago to incorporate
[45:00]
fluoride into their water.
[45:02]
So you're going to have four
cities out of 14 in Lake County
[45:06]
that have fluoride, which
puts us in a minority amongst
[45:12]
and we don't hear any complaints
from Claremont or lady
[45:15]
lake or Groveland or
anywhere about teeth problems
[45:18]
for kids because of it.
[45:22]
I'm also concerned because
a lot of kids these days,
[45:24]
they don't drink
water out of the tap.
[45:26]
They're drinking sodas,
they're drinking juices,
[45:29]
they're drinking bottled
water, all of which
[45:34]
do have fluoride in them.
[45:35]
But it's actually in my
opinion, I'm not a doctor,
[45:39]
but all the sugar in
those sodas and juice
[45:42]
is probably doing a lot of
damage to their teeth as well.
[45:46]
Our own utilities director
just happened to say
[45:50]
that it was a harsh chemical.
[45:52]
I have been out to where we
store the fluoride, where
[45:57]
it goes into the water system.
[45:59]
And you don't even
have to get near it.
[46:02]
And all the metal parts and
things around it are corroding.
[46:06]
They haven't been in contact.
[46:07]
They've just been near
it like within 10 feet,
[46:08]
and they're corroding.
[46:10]
It's a very corrosive chemical.
[46:14]
And it's bad for if
it's bad for metal,
[46:18]
it's got to be
bad for your body.
[46:21]
So our surgeon general,
this was his recommendation.
[46:25]
He has called it a
neurotoxin, that it
[46:28]
affects people's intelligence,
it affects the ADHD.
[46:32]
It's bad for pregnant
women and their babies.
[46:37]
And not only are we
drinking this in our water,
[46:40]
but we're cooking with it
and we're bathing in it.
[46:43]
And every time we take a shower,
all that fluoride is getting
[46:46]
soaked into our skin as well.
[46:48]
So we're getting a lot
of fluoride exposure.
[46:51]
And I think.
[46:54]
We have a lot more seniors in
Tarvaris than we do children.
[46:59]
And it's been documented
the damage to seniors
[47:03]
in their brains from fluoride.
[47:06]
And personally, I'd like
to see us take it out.
[47:10]
The phone calls and
texts and emails
[47:12]
that I've been getting, as you
can imagine, have been numerous,
[47:15]
and every one I've got has said,
please take the fluoride out,
[47:18]
please take the fluoride out.
[47:19]
These are citizens
of Tarvaris, so I'm
[47:22]
on the side of removing it once
and for all from Tarvaris, so.
[47:31]
Well, I'd like to
make a motion that we.
[47:35]
Put this on the next
agenda to vote on it.
[47:39]
I second it.
[47:40]
And because I think it's
just irresponsible on this.
[47:45]
Health and safety issue to
just go over these four days.
[47:49]
I want to next weeks.
[47:50]
I really want to dig
deep, deep because I
[47:52]
think everybody's right.
[47:54]
There's something about
this that everybody
[47:56]
is right about this issue and
I know which way I'm leaning,
[48:01]
but I still would prefer that.
[48:02]
I think it's more responsible to
let's take a couple more weeks.
[48:06]
Let's study this.
[48:07]
Let's do our research,
and within two weeks
[48:09]
we can make a decision and
move forward with this.
[48:13]
I to second it.
[48:14]
OK council members, we have
a motion and a second to.
[48:21]
Table this issue until our
next city council meeting.
[48:26]
Is there any discussion
on that motion.
[48:28]
Yeah I'd just like to say I
know that we brought this up
[48:31]
four years ago and
there was the talk
[48:33]
of getting a workshop together.
[48:35]
But yeah, this is not just
something I want to make
[48:37]
a knee jerk reaction to.
[48:40]
We talk about all these studies.
[48:42]
I mean, the studies that I see
talk more about the benefits
[48:45]
and it's been mentioned
about the studies
[48:47]
that say it's bad for us.
[48:49]
I don't see those studies.
[48:50]
So I would like to see the
studies brought forward both for
[48:54]
and against and
give this council
[48:56]
another two weeks to be
able to study both sides.
[48:59]
And that way we can make
a more educated decision
[49:02]
and do what's best for the
majority of our residents.
[49:05]
So I'm in support of
bringing this back
[49:07]
and voting on it in the
next council meeting,
[49:10]
and I would appreciate any
information that you all
[49:14]
have that you all
want to send to us,
[49:16]
that tells if you probably have
more access to that than I do.
[49:22]
So if you could send
that on through the city
[49:25]
and they can get
it to all of us,
[49:26]
I think that would
be a big help to.
[49:29]
My question is realistically
at the next meeting,
[49:32]
is that going to be
feasible or should we
[49:34]
wait till the meeting in
January because of everything
[49:38]
happening between
now and Christmas.
[49:40]
I think I'm good in two weeks
because the next two weeks
[49:43]
I'm not going to
be doing anything.
[49:44]
We're going to be going
over Christmas and New year,
[49:46]
so we might as well just
watch fresh on our mind.
[49:49]
I just as soon get it over with.
[49:50]
That's my opinion.
[49:52]
OK, so our motion is
to table this until
[49:58]
our next city council
meeting, which
[50:00]
would be December the 18th.
[50:02]
Is that correct That is correct.
[50:04]
OK all those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.
[50:07]
Aye All opposed.
[50:09]
Aye OK.
[50:11]
And one final comment
for those of you
[50:13]
who will be sending your studies
and your links, send them to.
[50:20]
USC Novak at Tavares, fl.gov.
[50:27]
And if you didn't get that
and didn't write it down,
[50:29]
just go to our website and
look for the clerk's email.
[50:34]
You're going to email
to the clerk of Tavares.
[50:39]
Your information, your
studies, your links,
[50:42]
your views, your thoughts.
[50:44]
The clerk will collect them and
disseminate them to each council
[50:47]
member and the council
members will all
[50:50]
be informed with
the same information
[50:52]
and can absorb the information
that you submit to the clerk
[50:58]
at two various.org.
[51:01]
Thank you.
[51:02]
And while it's fresh on our
mind Councilmember gamble.
[51:06]
Yeah our next meeting,
New Year's day.
[51:09]
We're not going
to have a meeting,
[51:11]
so we'd be pushing it all
the way back to mid January.
[51:13]
I'd rather get it
over with while we're.
[51:15]
That's what I was thinking,
pushing it back to mid January
[51:18]
where you have enough time
to get all the details.
[51:20]
Well, that's too much time
for me to forget stuff.
[51:22]
OK Yeah.
[51:23]
The motion is already passed.
[51:26]
OK OK, then we'll move on
to the next agenda item.
[51:30]
Thank you for everyone
who came to speak.
[51:32]
Appreciate it.
[51:34]
I do have one
question, if I may.
[51:37]
OK can you go up to
the podium and so we
[51:41]
can get you on the record.
[51:43]
If you look on the
periodic table of elements
[51:46]
in your chemistry lab,
you'll see fluoride
[51:49]
is just above chloride.
[51:54]
Are you going to take
chlorine out of the water next
[51:56]
if you decide to
take fluoride out.
[51:59]
I guarantee you too much
chlorine will kill you.
[52:02]
Graveyard dead.
[52:03]
Too much fluoride will kill you.
[52:06]
Graveyard dead.
[52:07]
But the proper amount will give
you a lifetime of benefits.
[52:13]
And there's where the
real thing comes in.
[52:17]
Your evidence right here
of the proper dosage
[52:20]
is what you really need.
[52:21]
Thank you.
[52:27]
All right.
[52:27]
We'll move on to tab 4 to
various public library happy
[52:32]
and healthy holiday series.
[52:35]
That's good.
[52:36]
We've been talking about health.
[52:37]
We're segue right into.
[52:44]
Good evening, Mayor.
[52:46]
Council, Mr Drury.
[52:48]
Let's see.
[52:50]
The Tiberias Public Library's
happy and healthy holiday series
[52:54]
returns for its second year
for meditation and karaoke
[52:59]
to cooking and budgeting.
[53:00]
The Tavares public library team
has curated a slate of programs
[53:05]
designed to keep us
all at our happiest
[53:07]
and healthiest this
holiday season.
[53:10]
The series kicked off in
November with programs
[53:13]
on budgeting and cooking.
[53:19]
And programs such as
aroma therapy and Tai Chi
[53:22]
are scheduled to take place
to keep us at our healthiest.
[53:26]
The offline project holiday
edition meets Thursday,
[53:30]
December, December 19.
[53:32]
Patrons will turn in
their digital devices,
[53:35]
listen to holiday
music, and spend time
[53:38]
finishing their Christmas cards,
working on puzzles or reading,
[53:42]
all while listening
to holiday music.
[53:45]
And the graphics that you see
with the red ribbon, those
[53:49]
are the graphics
that we're using
[53:51]
to promote the series on the
library's social media pages.
[53:57]
The library offered
Christmas karaoke last year
[54:00]
and it was so much fun.
[54:01]
We decided to bring it
back for a second year.
[54:06]
On Wednesday, December
18, Tori Harris
[54:09]
will present a festive concert
featuring traditional carols
[54:13]
on the saxophone and
delight your ears
[54:16]
and your soul this
winter solstice
[54:18]
with violinist Isabelle Palmer.
[54:23]
And patrons are welcome to
take their photos by the winter
[54:26]
themed backdrop and wrap their
presents at the free gift
[54:30]
wrapping station.
[54:31]
All supplies provided.
[54:36]
It is a December to remember at
the Children's cookie decorating
[54:40]
party and Santa's storytime.
[54:45]
That's various public
library is both
[54:47]
an application site and a toy
donation site for Toys for Tots.
[54:52]
Between October and
November, we signed up
[54:54]
349 individuals to receive
toys from toys for Tots.
[55:00]
We're also a donation
site for the Tavares
[55:02]
police charity drive.
[55:07]
And national Thank you
note day is December 26
[55:11]
and we will have a Thank
you letter writing station
[55:14]
available for the entire week.
[55:16]
All supplies provided
except stamps.
[55:20]
And the Tavares public
library is happy and healthy.
[55:23]
Holiday series was
selected as a program model
[55:26]
on the American
Library Association's
[55:28]
programming librarian blog.
[55:31]
This blog is a number one
resource for library programming
[55:34]
and meet Natalia.
[55:38]
Natalia is a library
operations specialist.
[55:40]
She joined us this past August.
[55:43]
In addition to her
regular duties,
[55:45]
she is putting together
Christmas book bundles,
[55:48]
and she is also
managing the Thank you
[55:50]
letter station outside of work.
[55:53]
She enjoys writing
and she's currently
[55:55]
writing a book of poetry.
[55:59]
So do you have
houseguests visiting.
[56:01]
If so, send them to the library.
[56:03]
All programs and activities are
free and open to the public.
[56:07]
You only need a library card if
you want to borrow something.
[56:12]
And from our bookshelf to yours.
[56:14]
Thank you.
[56:15]
Happy reading.
[56:16]
And have a very Merry Christmas.
[56:19]
Thank you.
[56:20]
Thank you.
[56:20]
Thank you.
[56:21]
Merry Christmas to you.
[56:21]
Lots of good programs.
[56:30]
All right.
[56:30]
Tavares recreation department
fall program update.
[56:43]
I was back there.
[56:44]
Can you go ahead and handle
the slideshow for me.
[56:47]
All right.
[56:49]
Mayor council members,
Vice mayor, staff.
[56:53]
Thanks for coming out tonight.
[56:55]
Thank you, everybody.
[56:56]
I'd just like to give you all an
update on the great fall season
[56:59]
that we just had and
what we're looking
[57:01]
forward to even better spring.
[57:04]
It takes a whole team,
and that means not just
[57:06]
all out here in front of me.
[57:08]
It takes a community as well.
[57:09]
So all you back here in the
back of the locker room and all
[57:12]
out you out here
watching that weren't
[57:14]
able to make it here today.
[57:15]
So let's go ahead
and get started.
[57:17]
I like to hit some of the high
points from this past fall
[57:20]
that we had.
[57:22]
We had some great points.
[57:23]
Some great things happen for us.
[57:25]
We have some obstacles
and some challenges,
[57:27]
but we learned from those and
go ahead and move forward.
[57:30]
So with that being said, let me
go out and get some of my tools
[57:34]
out here.
[57:38]
All right, let's see
what we got here.
[57:39]
All right, slide one.
[57:41]
Slide 1, slide one.
[57:44]
That's youth soccer.
[57:45]
Youth soccer.
[57:46]
We got here.
[57:47]
So what we have here
in youth soccer.
[57:49]
So as you can see, we are
out at the regional park.
[57:55]
For some of y'all.
[57:56]
That was the Golden
Triangle shades.
[57:57]
Now, the Golden
Triangle regional park,
[57:59]
we host soccer out there.
[58:00]
If you notice, one of the
things that nice green,
[58:03]
luscious new sod out there.
[58:05]
So we have two 45,000
square acres, 45,000 acres
[58:11]
of brand new site out there.
[58:12]
These kids are playing on.
[58:13]
So in our fall season
of soccer, they
[58:16]
weren't getting dirt stains.
[58:17]
They were getting grass stains.
[58:19]
So sorry for all your
parents out there.
[58:21]
That's what you had
to take care of.
[58:23]
And those uniforms.
[58:24]
So with for that
fall season, we have
[58:27]
future stars, age groups,
5 to six instructional,
[58:30]
7 to 8, juniors, 9 to 11.
[58:32]
That brings us to a grand
total of 119 participants.
[58:39]
Don't mind my spelling.
[58:41]
That's a program we're going
to probably get on the slate
[58:43]
in spring to help us all out.
[58:44]
So that's 119 participants
for our program,
[58:48]
for our fall program.
[58:49]
That's pretty excellent.
[58:50]
There's a lot of other
programs in soccer
[58:52]
going on taking place throughout
the Golden Triangle area.
[58:56]
So we're pretty
excited about that.
[58:58]
And we look to build on that.
[59:01]
All right.
[59:01]
All right.
[59:02]
Slide 2 to slide two.
[59:03]
That's art 92.
[59:05]
Why slide two.
[59:07]
All right, all right.
[59:09]
Gamble all right, gamble.
[59:10]
This is right in
your wheelhouse.
[59:11]
This is right in your
wheelhouse, Babe Ruth
[59:14]
so we had our fall
season of Babe Ruth.
[59:18]
All right, Babe Ruth.
[59:20]
All right.
[59:21]
We all know that.
[59:21]
Babe Ruth, baseball
and softball.
[59:24]
So we had from ages 4 to 15,
we had 14 baseball teams.
[59:31]
All right.
[59:32]
All the way up from
6 ball up to 15.
[59:34]
You and we had four
softball teams.
[59:38]
Yes, you heard that right.
[59:39]
We had four softball teams.
[59:42]
So we usually always
have a challenge
[59:44]
of getting the softball teams
to participate in our programs.
[59:47]
We have four this year.
[59:48]
That brings us to a
grand total of 189
[59:52]
participants for our fall.
[59:54]
Babe Ruth.
[59:55]
I think that was about
a 5% to 7% increase.
[59:58]
So we're doing a really
fantastic job with our Babe Ruth
[1:00:01]
programs, especially with
all those Babe Ruth baseball
[1:00:04]
softball programs going on
around the other cities,
[1:00:07]
travel ball and such.
[1:00:08]
So we're looking forward
to a very exciting spring.
[1:00:12]
Again, if you look
at those pictures,
[1:00:13]
man, them fields
are looking amazing.
[1:00:15]
That's right there at our
Woodley Sports Complex.
[1:00:17]
And we also play some
of our programs out
[1:00:19]
of the Stover Sports Complex.
[1:00:22]
Come right on in here, sweetie.
[1:00:23]
Come on, grab a seat.
[1:00:25]
You're a little late.
[1:00:25]
Can we run some wind
sprints after this.
[1:00:27]
OK, sir.
[1:00:28]
All right.
[1:00:30]
All right, let's go
to slide number 3.
[1:00:32]
Slide number three.
[1:00:34]
All right.
[1:00:34]
We got our full steam
ahead right here.
[1:00:37]
We had some feast or
famine smarts out here.
[1:00:39]
That program.
[1:00:40]
Full steam ahead.
[1:00:41]
What does that stand for ask.
[1:00:43]
We're a recreation department.
[1:00:46]
We want we do treat
the athletic inclined,
[1:00:49]
but we want to treat
everyone in the community.
[1:00:51]
So S stands for Science.
[1:00:55]
I'm not it might be
a little bit nervous,
[1:00:57]
so my writing might be a
little bit off right here.
[1:01:00]
So we got the ST
is for technology.
[1:01:04]
E is for engineering.
[1:01:06]
I'm just going to
scribble out like that.
[1:01:07]
What that means.
[1:01:08]
A is for art and M is for math.
[1:01:11]
So six week program, one night
a week, we had about 13 kids
[1:01:16]
show up each night.
[1:01:17]
They did a little
something different that's
[1:01:19]
related to one of these topics.
[1:01:21]
So it was a little
bit different for us
[1:01:22]
because it wasn't just
recreation or sports
[1:01:24]
that we are all used to.
[1:01:25]
It was going to grab a
little bit of something
[1:01:27]
different in the community,
bring some of these other kids
[1:01:29]
out that weren't maybe not
interested in the athletics.
[1:01:32]
That was a tremendous success.
[1:01:33]
Second time we did that.
[1:01:35]
So we're a super excited.
[1:01:37]
Everyone's excited
about that program
[1:01:38]
and we're going to
be we're very excited
[1:01:39]
and we're bringing that
back in the spring.
[1:01:41]
So you let the grandchildren
know it's coming.
[1:01:47]
All right.
[1:01:48]
We're going to move right
on to slide number 4.
[1:01:50]
Slide number four.
[1:01:51]
That's our flip 92 point.
[1:01:52]
Remember that.
[1:01:53]
OK, slide number 4.
[1:01:55]
All right.
[1:01:55]
We got our home school programs.
[1:01:57]
Now, these are our
big hit because we
[1:01:59]
do these during the day.
[1:02:01]
So all our home homeschool
kids, that's usually about 10
[1:02:04]
o'clock AM, 11:00
AM during the day,
[1:02:06]
we got our home schooled kids.
[1:02:07]
We're looking for
something educational
[1:02:09]
to get out of the house.
[1:02:10]
Well, we ran into a little issue
with our aquatic invertebrates
[1:02:14]
program, had a couple
storms come through.
[1:02:17]
So that one got canceled on us.
[1:02:18]
But we hope to
reschedule that one.
[1:02:21]
Well, we did do is, hey,
we're all the sea plane city.
[1:02:24]
So we did we've been working
with the Marina Thanks
[1:02:26]
for Mr tweedie's the squad
over there, they do a great job
[1:02:30]
and we do an aviation program.
[1:02:32]
That thing, as soon as we
put that up for registration
[1:02:35]
maxes out at 25, kids get
a waiting list of 17 to 20.
[1:02:39]
They want more of that aviation.
[1:02:41]
So we bring them out there.
[1:02:42]
Jones Brothers over
there helps us out.
[1:02:44]
They walk around with
the pilot, pilot Eli.
[1:02:46]
He's great.
[1:02:46]
He gets up there and shows that
kids in the cockpit there how he
[1:02:49]
drives that plane around,
lands it on the water
[1:02:51]
takes off from the water
and everything else.
[1:02:54]
The kids and parents
love that thing.
[1:02:56]
So we also have done programs
with the wastewater department.
[1:03:00]
So clock.
[1:03:00]
Your team there and they
do great over there.
[1:03:02]
The lab, we go over
there and sometimes too,
[1:03:04]
and it's a great
team got over there.
[1:03:06]
They do fantastic.
[1:03:07]
So our homeschool
programs, they're
[1:03:09]
a big hit with all the kids.
[1:03:11]
We usually do those
about once a month
[1:03:12]
and we're looking to pick those
up and do even more of them.
[1:03:16]
So those have been a fantastic
hit and they want more of them
[1:03:20]
because like I
said, every time we
[1:03:22]
put one up there
with registration,
[1:03:23]
there's a waiting list.
[1:03:25]
All right.
[1:03:26]
Moving right along.
[1:03:28]
All right, we got Boo Fest.
[1:03:29]
Boo fest.
[1:03:30]
That's the next slide.
[1:03:31]
Next slide is boo Boo Fest.
[1:03:32]
All right this one live.
[1:03:34]
Y'all, everyone knows this one.
[1:03:35]
It's the Boo Fest.
[1:03:36]
OK, so this one was
important because we had.
[1:03:39]
We had over here.
[1:03:41]
Let me draw this up.
[1:03:43]
This is a very important one.
[1:03:44]
So we have Main
Street right here.
[1:03:45]
We had price right here
dishing out the candy.
[1:03:48]
You swing out over here into the
event park section over here.
[1:03:53]
Even more important,
we had singer picking
[1:03:55]
winners at the costume contest.
[1:03:57]
So we appreciate y'all out
here participating, helping
[1:04:00]
us out with this big prize.
[1:04:02]
Thousands descended to downtown
Tavares with this boot fest
[1:04:06]
once again.
[1:04:07]
So we had a tremendous success.
[1:04:09]
Lines everywhere.
[1:04:10]
I don't know why
they form a line.
[1:04:11]
We told them, you don't
have to form a line.
[1:04:13]
It's just like a buffet style.
[1:04:14]
But no matter what,
they form a line.
[1:04:17]
So we're still working
on that, how we do that.
[1:04:19]
But we had a great time.
[1:04:20]
We moved everything
from the square.
[1:04:22]
We did it in a Wooten park.
[1:04:23]
I think everyone loved the
feel and loved the flow.
[1:04:26]
Having everything
condensed right down there.
[1:04:28]
So it was an electric event.
[1:04:30]
Fantastic, great weather.
[1:04:31]
So we just continue to look
forward to building on that
[1:04:34]
and seeing what other
things we can add to that.
[1:04:38]
So we enjoy everyone
coming down, down for that.
[1:04:41]
All right.
[1:04:41]
Next up next up.
[1:04:43]
All right.
[1:04:43]
We got this is a good one.
[1:04:45]
Age 51 solid.
[1:04:46]
You ready.
[1:04:47]
Next slide.
[1:04:47]
Age 51.
[1:04:48]
Solid all right, this
is our tiny tots.
[1:04:50]
This is where it all starts.
[1:04:52]
This is.
[1:04:52]
This is the fundamentals.
[1:04:54]
All right.
[1:04:55]
How important the
fundamentals they
[1:04:56]
talk about the fundamentals
in every sport.
[1:04:58]
This is where it is.
[1:04:59]
OK, tiny tots.
[1:05:00]
All right.
[1:05:01]
You got.
[1:05:02]
Do they start out small.
[1:05:04]
They start out small.
[1:05:06]
What we want.
[1:05:07]
We're trying to execute, get
them up to the big leagues
[1:05:11]
up here.
[1:05:12]
So you got the fields up here.
[1:05:14]
So we teach them down here.
[1:05:15]
We want to get them up here
to the youth soccer program.
[1:05:18]
So what we do, we do these
tiny tots start small programs.
[1:05:21]
We got the 3 to five-year-Olds.
[1:05:23]
We did two sessions,
as you can see
[1:05:25]
there, October, we did August 26
through August or September 30.
[1:05:28]
Then we did October 7
through November 18,
[1:05:32]
we had about 22 kids in
session one and 22, 23 kids
[1:05:35]
in session two.
[1:05:36]
So that's once a week,
every Monday night, 6 to 7.
[1:05:40]
Again, look at that graph.
[1:05:41]
It's shining.
[1:05:42]
We don't spray paint it.
[1:05:43]
It's like it comes like that.
[1:05:44]
You go out there
and look, it looks
[1:05:45]
just like that in the picture.
[1:05:47]
So once I say one night a
week for six weeks last night,
[1:05:51]
they do a little scrimmage.
[1:05:52]
And as you can see there,
we give them some pizza,
[1:05:54]
have a nice little pizza
party and some metals.
[1:05:56]
Fantastic time.
[1:05:57]
Next thing they're ready to
move on up to the future stars
[1:06:00]
program of our youth soccer.
[1:06:02]
So that's the way it works.
[1:06:03]
We kind get them ready,
build those fundamentals,
[1:06:05]
and they move on up.
[1:06:06]
All right.
[1:06:07]
So moving on around,
are we going to talk
[1:06:09]
about some more fundamentals.
[1:06:10]
We can move on to the next
slide along the same lines
[1:06:12]
as we had a little
sluggers program.
[1:06:14]
So that's where your baseball
and softball comes in,
[1:06:17]
your fundamentals.
[1:06:18]
It's the same idea here.
[1:06:19]
We got our kids
one night a week,
[1:06:21]
little sluggers, 3
to five years old.
[1:06:23]
They meet out at Woodley 6 to
7:00 PM on Monday nights for six
[1:06:27]
weeks, teaching the
basics and fundamentals
[1:06:30]
max out that program.
[1:06:31]
25 kids for each
of those programs.
[1:06:33]
We're looking to figure
out how we can do.
[1:06:35]
If we do a session,
maybe we can do a Monday
[1:06:37]
night and a Wednesday night.
[1:06:38]
So we can maximize maybe even
more kids out of those programs.
[1:06:43]
All right, let's
move right along.
[1:06:46]
Yeah This is early.
[1:06:47]
42 or early 42 arc.
[1:06:50]
All right.
[1:06:50]
We're going to go
into a TLC of cooks.
[1:06:53]
All right.
[1:06:54]
This is very important.
[1:06:56]
Now, as as a team, we've
got to work together.
[1:06:59]
So we have a staff of
only so many folks.
[1:07:02]
So you got to have build
what we call relationships.
[1:07:06]
We build relationships.
[1:07:09]
So we have WREC over here,
we have TLC over here.
[1:07:13]
So we build our programs
and TLC, our programs,
[1:07:17]
and then we join forces.
[1:07:19]
That's how it works.
[1:07:20]
You work together, relationships
and what that creates.
[1:07:22]
So we can do here and here.
[1:07:25]
So then we generate even more
programming for the community
[1:07:29]
if we build relationships
with other organizations
[1:07:32]
within our area.
[1:07:33]
So TLC, toddlers of Lake County
is a perfect example of how we
[1:07:36]
build a relationship with them.
[1:07:37]
And out of the Civic
Center, they've
[1:07:39]
been doing a kinder
cooks program
[1:07:40]
with young kids and
toddlers where they
[1:07:42]
come in with their parents.
[1:07:44]
They learn basic
skills of cooking.
[1:07:46]
So the kids come in,
they mix the ingredients,
[1:07:49]
the basic stuff.
[1:07:50]
Now we don't let them get
into the ovens and the stoves
[1:07:52]
and the stuff like
that because we don't
[1:07:53]
know what's going to happen.
[1:07:54]
That's for the adults.
[1:07:57]
But they come in
there, they learn
[1:07:58]
how to mix the
ingredients, put them
[1:08:00]
together, cook up some meals
and with their parents.
[1:08:03]
And then the very
last day of the month,
[1:08:05]
they actually be able
to serve it to one
[1:08:08]
of their parents or guardians.
[1:08:09]
They come in and have a
little like a little banquet
[1:08:11]
where they come
out, take a menu.
[1:08:13]
They come out and
take down their order,
[1:08:16]
fix it up, bring it
out and serve it.
[1:08:18]
So we do that with them.
[1:08:19]
One, they do it one
day a week for a month.
[1:08:22]
And kinder cooks program has
been they've been loving it.
[1:08:26]
And we're looking to do more
with the toddlers of Lake County
[1:08:29]
also.
[1:08:29]
So that's one of an
idea of a relationship
[1:08:31]
that helps us expand our
inventory of programs.
[1:08:37]
All right.
[1:08:38]
Let's go ahead and move
on along to our next one.
[1:08:45]
Again we're talking about.
[1:08:48]
Our senior programs.
[1:08:52]
OK, so we got our senior series.
[1:08:55]
So this.
[1:08:57]
So we used to do Tuesdays.
[1:09:00]
Tuesdays we used to do
Tuesdays 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM.
[1:09:04]
So what we decided to do to
maximize our participation,
[1:09:09]
we found out checking
schedules around the area
[1:09:12]
that Tuesdays from 1
to 3 seems like to be
[1:09:14]
very busy activity for seniors.
[1:09:17]
So we went ahead and
said what, let's go ahead
[1:09:19]
and move those programs from
an October for one to three PM.
[1:09:24]
Once we did that in
October, we found
[1:09:25]
we got a little bit of an
increase in our senior programs
[1:09:28]
for our senior series.
[1:09:29]
So in October, we started
doing our senior series
[1:09:32]
every Monday from 1:00 to 3.
[1:09:33]
Now one Monday will be
bingo, another Monday
[1:09:37]
be karaoke and dancing.
[1:09:38]
Another Monday is chair
yoga and another Monday is
[1:09:41]
line dancing, arts and crafts.
[1:09:42]
So we average about
18 to 19 seniors
[1:09:46]
every time we do one
of these programs.
[1:09:48]
So it's been going off great.
[1:09:49]
And then in January, we're
looking to mix it up and refresh
[1:09:52]
it and we'll start adding
in a little bit more,
[1:09:54]
a little bit some
new stuff in there.
[1:09:56]
Keep them active,
entertained and socializing.
[1:10:00]
Now take a hike.
[1:10:03]
I don't know.
[1:10:04]
I try to keep up to
take a hike, folks.
[1:10:06]
It's pretty tough.
[1:10:08]
They meet at Wooten park.
[1:10:10]
So you got Wooten.
[1:10:10]
They go down here.
[1:10:12]
Wooten park.
[1:10:13]
We also ought to call.
[1:10:17]
Pontoon promenade.
[1:10:19]
We start teaching
them that language.
[1:10:21]
They beat their.
[1:10:22]
They walk all the way
over to Ingraham center.
[1:10:26]
Sit down.
[1:10:27]
We do some puzzles, suduko.
[1:10:29]
Don't if you've ever done those.
[1:10:30]
Those are tough.
[1:10:30]
I'm almost going.
[1:10:31]
Give me an easy one.
[1:10:32]
They do that suduko puzzle chat.
[1:10:35]
We talk about some health and
health and wellness issues
[1:10:37]
for the senior community.
[1:10:39]
After about 15 or 20
minutes, turn around,
[1:10:42]
walk back to Wooten.
[1:10:43]
We started off about
five or six seniors.
[1:10:46]
We're up to about 15 or 16.
[1:10:47]
Now that participate,
and we're looking
[1:10:49]
to continue to build that up.
[1:10:51]
So that's going to
take a hike program
[1:10:53]
in a good way, not a bad way.
[1:10:58]
All right.
[1:11:00]
We're moving right along.
[1:11:01]
Slide number 10.
[1:11:02]
Slide number 10.
[1:11:04]
All right.
[1:11:04]
This is another one.
[1:11:05]
OK how can we maximize
our program inventory.
[1:11:10]
Again, would be very important
if anybody's watching out
[1:11:13]
of the recreation
staff that we do
[1:11:15]
a writing and spelling program.
[1:11:18]
Here we go.
[1:11:19]
So, Orlando club sport, there
are sports social organization
[1:11:23]
out of Orlando.
[1:11:24]
We started talking with them
not too long ago about expanding
[1:11:27]
their inventory of sport.
[1:11:29]
Adult sports programs
out into this area.
[1:11:32]
Help us out because we're
a lean, mean fighting
[1:11:35]
machine Mr. Drury that's
what you always say.
[1:11:38]
We take that to heart.
[1:11:39]
So, hey, how can they come
in and help us and support
[1:11:42]
us with some adult programs.
[1:11:44]
So they've been very successful
doing some kickball programs out
[1:11:47]
here for us.
[1:11:48]
And they just kicked off an
adult softball coed program.
[1:11:52]
They had about, I think, five
teams for the first time.
[1:11:55]
That's pretty good.
[1:11:57]
So they just did that
in the middle of that,
[1:11:59]
wrapping that up soon
and we're getting
[1:12:01]
ready to meet with
them again and start
[1:12:02]
looking at doing some
adult flag football
[1:12:04]
and some more adult kickball.
[1:12:05]
So they've been
doing very great,
[1:12:08]
talked to some of the
participants there.
[1:12:10]
They've loved it.
[1:12:10]
They said it's run
great, organized
[1:12:12]
and everything like that.
[1:12:13]
So we're very happy
about that relationship
[1:12:15]
and continue to take
small steps with them
[1:12:18]
and build on that and
doing it the right way.
[1:12:22]
All right.
[1:12:23]
I'm so excited you guys
taking the time here.
[1:12:26]
I know it's been a long season
and we're ready to get some time
[1:12:29]
off and stuff like that.
[1:12:31]
Just really to recap,
we got some great stuff.
[1:12:34]
We know we had a great fall.
[1:12:35]
We learned from it.
[1:12:36]
We had some challenges
and obstacles.
[1:12:37]
Like I said before,
coming up, we have
[1:12:39]
some great stuff coming up.
[1:12:40]
The spring.
[1:12:41]
We got our spring, Babe
Ruth, that's our big season
[1:12:43]
going into all stars.
[1:12:45]
We got our star smart programs.
[1:12:47]
I mentioned the tiny
tots and little sluggers.
[1:12:50]
We got homeschool programs,
full steam heads coming back.
[1:12:54]
We're going to do adult
flag football programs.
[1:12:56]
Don't worry, Mr gunner.
[1:12:58]
We're going to be doing
some historical programs,
[1:13:00]
so we'll get you.
[1:13:02]
You go in there and go to your
historical Research Center,
[1:13:04]
make sure you're all readied
up for that, because it's going
[1:13:07]
to be we're going to be putting
the ball in your hand soon, sir.
[1:13:10]
So you better be ready for that.
[1:13:12]
So we have all kinds
of great things coming
[1:13:14]
down the pipe for everyone.
[1:13:15]
And again, we Thank everyone for
being a part of our programs,
[1:13:19]
supporting the rec department
and everything you do,
[1:13:21]
the community.
[1:13:21]
We appreciate everything
you everyone does.
[1:13:24]
And I think that's
all I have for now.
[1:13:27]
Or remember, we in the
offseason stay healthy and safe
[1:13:31]
and we'll see you
back in the spring.
[1:13:33]
All right.
[1:13:34]
There you go.
[1:13:34]
Thank you.
[1:13:35]
Very good.
[1:13:39]
All right.
[1:13:40]
I think I'm going
to skip the tab 6
[1:13:43]
and then come back to New
business and old business.
[1:13:46]
So tab six update on rails to
trails project public works.
[1:13:53]
Thank you, Mayor.
[1:13:54]
As some of in January 2023,
we received unexpected news
[1:13:58]
from CSX regarding
their decision not
[1:14:00]
to sell the 11.5 mile corridor.
[1:14:02]
As a result, Lake County,
Mount Dora and city of Tavares
[1:14:05]
agreed to pause and
in grant applications
[1:14:07]
until CSX reached a
definitive conclusion.
[1:14:10]
During this interim period,
the unwavering commitment
[1:14:12]
of Lake County, Mount Dora
and the city of Tavares
[1:14:15]
has been vital in keeping
this initiative alive.
[1:14:18]
Our collaboration efforts have
led to successful completion
[1:14:21]
of the planning, development
and environmental study
[1:14:24]
for segment 5, which has been
finalized in August 2024.
[1:14:28]
Furthermore, the lake
Sumter Metropolitan planning
[1:14:31]
organization has included
both segments of the trail
[1:14:34]
in their 2024 list
of priority projects,
[1:14:37]
reinforcing our projects,
progress and potential
[1:14:40]
for future success I am also
pleased to announce that we have
[1:14:44]
received confirmation from the
Trust for Public Land, which is
[1:14:47]
a nonprofit organization
dedicated to improving
[1:14:50]
public access to
outdoor recreation,
[1:14:52]
has confirmed that CSX and
Florida Central Railroad has
[1:14:57]
expressed their willingness
to sell the corridor
[1:14:59]
and associated lands.
[1:15:01]
At the upcoming meeting on the
18th trust for Public Land,
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along with city
staff, will present
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the memorandum of agreement for
the council's consideration.
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This agreement will
clearly outline the roles
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and responsibilities
of all parties
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involved developing the corridor
as a Rails to trails project.
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This recent development
has strategically
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positioned us to apply
for the 2025 race grant.
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In this response to this
positive progression,
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Lake County, Mount
Dora and Tavares
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have developed a
comprehensive scope of work
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with kimley-horn to assist
in preparing and submitting
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this year's application and
ready to initiate their task
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order.
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If council has no objections
to pursuing this year's raise
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grant application.
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Taking advantage of this
opportunity will require
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a total investment of $36,000.
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This amount will be shared
equally among Lake County,
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Mount Dora and city
of Tavares, with each
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entity contributing $12,000.
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The city's proportionate
share of $12,000 is budgeted
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and will come from the
Department of Public
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works engineering budget.
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Back to you, Mayor.
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And just one thing.
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The grant we're going
after is a $25 million
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raise grant to get that
trail from downtown
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to various to downtown
Mount Dora completed.
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We're very excited.
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I know if Mr Singer
wants to add anything.
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He's been in a lot
of our meetings.
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In fact, we just had a meeting
today on our horizon team.
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Do you want to add anything.
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No I just want to say
it's been a pleasure
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to serve on this horizon team
for the past several years.
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And I know we hit a little bit
of a roadblock a few years back
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when CSX was not willing
to relinquish the property.
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But now it's great
news understanding
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that they're willing to partner
with us, do this project.
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And, this is just going
to be a huge thing
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for the city of Tavares.
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And not only the city of
Tavares, but the County
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and the YMCA as well.
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So really excited
about this project.
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And I know it's been
a little while coming.
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Thank you, Mr Dillon, for all
your work behind the scenes
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and getting this project
continuing to roll forward.
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And I'm fully support
of this and it's
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just going to be it's going
to be great for our community.
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It's going to be a
huge economic driver
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and just can't wait for this
project to come to fruition.
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That's all I have.
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Mayor, Thank you.
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Thank you, Jean.
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Thank you, Mr Dillon.
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That's great news.
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OK council.
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Is there any new business.
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Do we have any old business
we need to bring up.
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All right.
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Just one.
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James the cemetery gate.
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What's the update on our gate.
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Something happened Yes, it
was damaged during Hurricane.
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We do have a
contractor lined up,
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and the repairs
should be completed
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by the end of next week.
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OK, great question.
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Any other old business.
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All right, audience to be heard.
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Is anyone in the
audience that wants
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to come up and say anything.
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OK come on up Mr.
Santoro, state your name
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and address for the record.
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Speak softly.
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Mayor members of
council Mr. Drury.
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City staff.
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Miss Holt. Gary
Santoro, Royal Harbor.
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I don't have a dog in
a fight on the floor.
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I really don't.
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But let me tell you something.
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His report tonight was spot on.
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He was able to give you the
information that you needed.
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Any chemical is
bad for you if you
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don't follow the
manufacturer's instructions.
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It is a corrosive.
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I know that from being
in the fire service,
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these guys know it too.
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But if you don't use it
correctly, Yes, it is harmful.
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But Mr Clark, Thank you
for your information.
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It was very informative to
be able to give them exactly
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what the staff is doing.
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Thank you very much.
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Anyone else.
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OK we'll close public comment.
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City administrator report.
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I just want to highlight
that the next two meetings
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for the city council
are December the 18th
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and then January the
15th and no meeting
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on the first Wednesday of.
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January that's it for me.
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There's no bag.
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Nothing Thank you, Mayor.
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You're not Sarah.
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OK, sweetie.
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Thank you, Mr Dylan.
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Nothing to report today.
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Thank you, Mr Clark.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Thank you, Gary.
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All the information
that I spewed tonight
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was given to me by my staff.
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So they did a great job
of making me look like I
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know what I'm talking about.
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So thank you.
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Thank you Mr. O'Keefe.
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Captain Yes.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Council, Mr Drury.
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Department directors.
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I am not Richard
Keith, the fire chief.
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He had to step out today,
so I stepped in for him.
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We wanted to give you
a little update of what
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is going on in the
Prevention Department
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with Tavares fire department.
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Lee, will you go ahead
and stand for me.
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So after you this year's budget,
we increased a little staffing
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in the Prevention Department.
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As we've grown as a city, time
on task has grown a little bit,
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so I needed a little
bit of help there.
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We have decided and hired
Lee Chaney, new employee,
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started on December 2, and
he's very excited to be here.
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He's with me now.
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He's cross training
a little bit.
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We're getting out
into the city and I'll
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give you a little
bit of information
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about his background.
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Lee started in the fire service
as an Explorer at the age of 14
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with the town of
Allenstown fire department.
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In 1997, New
Hampshire, Lee worked
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as a full time fire
Lieutenant and EMT
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with Allenstown department.
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From 2004 to 2010.
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He moved to Florida in 2018
from New Hampshire, worked
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for Orange County Public
schools as a fire inspector
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from 2022 to 2024.
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He's currently certified
as a fire inspector to.
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With the state of
Florida, and he's
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currently working on his fire
investigator license, too.
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Lee is excited to be here
and just wanted to welcome
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him to the Tavares family.
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Thank you.
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Welcome Mr Aldrich, welcome in.
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Lee, just a quick reminder,
this coming Saturday
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is our tavaris
Candyland Christmas
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parade and celebration.
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The parade starts at 5:00 down
Ruby street and Main Street,
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followed by the
festivities in the park
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afterwards with
ice skating, music,
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and all kinds of activities.
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So hope to see you there.
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Thank you.
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OK Thank you, Ms.
Thank you, Mayor.
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I have no business tonight,
but I do want to say
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welcome aboard to Mr Cheney.
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Proud to have you on our team.
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Thanks, Mr Faber.
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I have nothing to report.
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Welcome aboard.
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We already met already in one
of our pre-application meetings.
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So you already have a
little taste of Tiberius.
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All right, Mrs. Holt.
Thank you, Mayor.
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No report.
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Vice mayor.
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I wanted to ask y'all.
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We've got some
projects going on,
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some really good projects
such as the regional park
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and the rails to trails project.
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And years ago, we had a
lobbying firm that we used.
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But the stars weren't
quite aligned for us
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because just the difference
of a Republican governor,
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maybe in a Democratic
president, I mean,
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that does make a difference.
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It does.
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And right now things
are aligned very well.
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So my thoughts are,
could we entertain,
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put it on the agenda
for the next meeting.
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To talk about hiring a lobbying
firm because that they get
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one grant for us and
they're paid for plus
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and I think things are lined
up right now perfectly.
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So would y'all be willing
to entertain this.
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Can we.
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But it's on the agenda
next time and discuss this
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about a lobbying
firm because we're
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going to need more
money than what
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we've got for these projects.
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Well, I think with the
$25 million raise rent
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that we're looking at and I
just I think we're so close.
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I know we've applied for
that a couple of times.
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And I just think, we're
almost over the finish line.
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And I think a
lobbying firm would
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definitely help us possibly
get over that last hurdle.
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And $25 million, I
think the investment
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would be well worth it.
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So I'd be fully in support of
putting that on our next agenda.
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OK Yeah, because those are
just two big projects that we
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need to move forward with.
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I mean, once the property
and everything comes through,
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we've got to move on those.
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So OK.
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And the regional parks
going to need money
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and just this is the perfect
opportunity with the way things
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are set up as far as
in the legislature
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and through the state and
through the federal government.
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I think it's a perfect
time for us to do this.
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OK I don't see any
objection from the council.
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So Mr Drury, can you
put that on the agenda.
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We'll do OK.
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Councilman that was
all, by the way.
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That was all other than.
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Hi, Mr Cheney.
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Welcome no, no report today.
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Great job, Steve.
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Thank you.
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Councilman singer.
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Welcome, Mr Cheney.
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Glad to have you on board.
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Thank you for your service.
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Looking forward to this
year's Christmas parade.
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Always a good time.
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Miss Clark, I think I might
be riding with you so excited
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about that.
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I know we had a good
time last year, so it's
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a great event seeing
all the families
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and the community come out.
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So I'm really
excited about that.
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And one thing I
just Mr. Tweedy, I
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think we have our
new boardwalk set up
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and that's fully completed.
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Is that my understanding.
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Yes, sir.
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Yes the trail bypass
around the seaplane base
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is now fully complete.
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We have our final walk through
tomorrow with the contractors
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and engineers.
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Just a few punch list items to
complete in the next few weeks.
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But it is open and
being used and it
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seems to be well received.
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Great new safety
feature for sure.
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Thank you for all you did
to get that up and running.
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Really appreciate it.
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Thank you for all your support.
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That's all I have, Mayor.
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OK Thank you.
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I forgot something
because y'all rush me.
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Well Well, I was doing business
and didn't get to talk.
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I just wanted to
make sure that you.
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We have some of our mayor's
Youth Council here tonight.
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I just wanted to recognize them.
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Yeah good seeing
y'all here tonight.
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Yes Thank you for coming.
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And they've picked their.
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You all have picked
your departments.
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Two departments that
you'll be touring
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over the next couple of weeks.
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So thank you for doing that.
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They'll be paired up
with two departments
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that they've picked over
the next couple of weeks.
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Nice good.
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And we're going to get
that information of what
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each of our candidates
picked and what they did.
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Yes Yep.
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You'll get an email
that when they did it,
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what department they picked
and what they got from it.
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Good Thank you.
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Great Thank you.
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Councilmember gamble.
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Welcome aboard.
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And that's all I got.
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That was quick.
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OK, well, too, want to
welcome our new inspector
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on board there.
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My son's a firefighter.
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Captain right up, Captain.
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So I'm very sensitive to all
you guys, so congratulations.
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I hope everyone had
a nice Thanksgiving,
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and I, too, am looking
forward to our Christmas
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parade on Saturday night.
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I think it will be a great
event, as everything always is,
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in Tabriz.
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So with that, this
meeting is adjourned.
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Happy days.