[0:08] Good evening, everyone. We'll call the meeting of April 18, 2016 of the mayor and city council,

[0:16] the city of Lincoln Park. Everyone would please rise for a pledge allegiance to the flag.

[0:22] And we will then be followed by a moment of silence for those people in Japan and Ecuador that are reeling after the earthquake

[0:31] and I'll leave the desk and injuries there.

[0:35] So I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

[0:40] and to the Republic, which stands on Nation under God.

[0:45] We are in the visible liberty and the best for all.

[1:00] Thank you.

[1:01] We could have Roku.

[1:02] House of Persons, guys, let's speak.

[1:04] Here.

[1:05] The Santa.

[1:06] Candace.

[1:06] Here.

[1:07] Go see.

[1:07] Here.

[1:08] There.

[1:08] Here.

[1:09] there.

[1:13] Again, good evening everyone.

[1:25] We will hold that off for another time.

[1:32] I have

[1:33] noticed to everybody that the assessing department or assessors will be out and about in the

[1:42] neighborhoods. We'll be going door to door. These folks will be doing this during rubber

[1:49] business hours. They will have identifications on. If there is a question on whether they

[1:56] are proper and they should be there or not, you would call City Hall, the 3-8-6-1800 number,

[2:03] and extension 2-3-1, I think it would be appropriate for that. Does that usually get answered?

[2:12] and there are some things that will not be entering any structures if you are not home.

[2:19] These will only be exterior pictures and measurements.

[2:21] These contractors will have a contractor's ID badge for identification and will provide it upon request.

[2:28] If the assessing department comes to your property while you are not home,

[2:32] they will leave a door tag on the front door.

[2:34] The door tag will have the date time, contact information and status of your property.

[2:39] please call the schedule appointment if it's indicated on your door. So you are

[2:44] aware that they will be coming out and going door to door but if you have any

[2:48] questions again call city hall and if you can't get from there then you can

[2:54] call the police department. Again, don't let anybody on your property that you're

[2:59] unsure of or don't let anybody inside of your home that you have questions for.

[3:03] There are fraudulent. There are people out there that try to take advantage of

[3:08] you by misrepresenting themselves, so we want you to be sure with this.

[3:12] Yes sir.

[3:13] How are you sir?

[3:28] Well you're properly so big sir they had to

[3:37] found the jug. I don't know

[4:22] We'll check and see why they were at your address when they were and maybe they just got yours not ahead of time

[4:28] That's the little figure it out.

[4:33] Looking for that gold you buried.

[4:36] Now we have the trash containers again.

[4:41] Most people are putting them in the proper place between the sidewalk and the curb.

[4:45] We ask that you hold out all out there and you know who you are.

[4:51] To please put it between the sidewalk and the curb.

[4:54] particularly if you have a house that is on on a traffic lane. That's where it's

[5:02] supposed to be. Cruz take care of business there. Tomorrow in the state

[5:08] capital they're going to be announcing child abuse on Wednesday. Now the city

[5:15] two weeks ago declared able to be child abuse prevention month. Now the

[5:21] The sad fact is, is that child abuse has been on the increase the last couple of years,

[5:26] whether it's due to our financial conditions or not.

[5:29] This is just something that we need to get behind.

[5:33] If you have witness child abuse taking place, if you think that you have, you need to call

[5:41] the police department and report them.

[5:44] Or if you can do it anonymously, that the child children's protective service too.

[5:48] But the sad fact is that there are kids out there that are being injured and we need to

[5:55] do everything that we can in order to prevent this or to get them out of the circumstances

[6:01] where they are having her.

[6:03] As part of the program at the state capital, they plant a field of grouped inwheels and

[6:14] And they keep those as a symbol that they are supporting child abuse prevention.

[6:20] So, as residents, if you want to show your support for child abuse prevention, you can

[6:27] display some blue tin wheels in your yard or a blue ribbon.

[6:34] And that is all that I have to

[6:39] go to the consent agenda.

[6:44] Resolved that the following items list are in the consent agenda be approved as presented to the Mayor and City Council.

[6:50] One approved the next rubber meeting held April 4, 2016.

[6:55] Two charitable solicitation American Cancer Society, Arulae for Life.

[6:59] Let's pull it.

[7:04] Recall the roll.

[7:17] Yes,

[7:20] actually, that we have a special event permit resolved that the special event permit number seven be approved for McCaffrey's bar to hold their annual beach bash party at 421-04th Street Lincoln Park, Michigan on August 13th, 2016 from 10th of May.

[7:38] 10 a.m. to 11 p.m. under the following conditions.

[7:41] One tend to be inspected by the fire department prior to use.

[7:46] Two special events to cease at 11 p.m. per municipal code

[7:50] 666.04.

[7:53] Three applicants will be responsible for cleanup of all debris associated with

[7:57] the event from surrounding properties.

[8:00] The further resolved that the above resolution be implemented and given a immediate

[8:04] to the fact upon approval of the Lincoln Park

[8:07] receivership transition advisory board.

[8:12] So, discussion, is there a plan to have live music?

[8:22] Yep.

[8:23] Yeah, this or that?

[8:24] Uh-huh.

[8:29] Amplifier.

[8:32] And we received no complaints on that last event

[8:35] that they had where just recently.

[8:39] Okay

[8:42] From the discussion

[8:44] According to the role council person dies in ski. Yes, and this yes, the San to Kelsey. Yes, Murphy. Yes, Zellnet. Yes

[8:52] Yes,

[9:01] result of the special event permit number six be approved for McCafferty's bar to hold their annual cruising down the river party at 421-04th Street

[9:10] Lincoln Park, Michigan on June 24, 25, and 26, 2016, from 10 a.m. to 11 p.m.

[9:18] under following conditions. One tent to be inspected by the fire department

[9:22] fire to use to a special event to see us at 11 p.m. for municipal code 666.04.

[9:29] Three applicants shall be responsible for cleanup of all debris associated with

[9:32] events from surrounding properties. The further resolved that the above

[9:36] resolution be implemented and given immediate effect upon approval of the

[9:40] Lincoln Park Receivership, Transition and Advisory Report.

[9:43] Some move.

[9:46] Special.

[9:49] Quick call to roll.

[9:50] House of Person Dysansky.

[9:51] Yes.

[9:52] Kelsey?

[9:52] Yes.

[9:53] Desantil.

[9:53] Candace.

[9:54] First, Murphy?

[9:55] Yes.

[9:55] Zellman?

[9:56] Yes.

[9:56] Mayor Pattsy.

[9:57] Yes.

[9:59] We have another item that's not on the agenda, but whereas Mayor and City Council wish

[10:06] to schedule meetings to discuss fiscal year in 2016, 2017 budget.

[10:12] Now, therefore, it may be resolved that the mayor and council schedule study sessions on fiscal year 2016-2017 budget for Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 6.30 p.m., and Monday, April 25, 2016 at 6.30 p.m.

[10:29] and the John A. I always see council chambers,

[10:32] one, three, five, five, southfield, road, Lincoln Park, Michigan.

[10:38] Support, discussion,

[10:41] critical role.

[10:42] Council President DeSanto, Candace.

[10:45] Yes.

[10:45] DeSansky?

[10:46] Yes.

[10:47] Kelsey?

[10:47] Yes.

[10:48] Murphy?

[10:48] Yes.

[10:49] Yes.

[10:49] We have

[10:54] an item from the city attorney, and it's a letter

[10:59] from the city attorney.

[11:00] We'll go out from the city attorney to our city manager, Mr. Popper.

[11:05] The Michigan Attorney General's office contacted me today with a concern of the dates reflected in charter amendment language, which in the light of the previous 2014, 2017 section adopted by the voters needs clarification.

[11:19] This can safely be, this can be safely considered a scrutinist error in reduction to the proposal in minutes with no change in purpose.

[11:30] or intent. Adoption this evening in cursory submission to the art tab at tomorrow's meeting

[11:36] would be genuinely appreciated. Please pass this matter along to City Council for Miss

[11:42] Nene's Resolution and Task Trend, and that's our C.A. Attorney Ed Zelneck, so we'll fill

[11:47] for the resolution we can have discussion for this area after that. Resolve this resolution

[11:54] in 2016-14.

[11:58] Prop Charter Amendment renew, grease and fire millage be corrected in part based upon a

[12:06] scrutiners' error to read as follows.

[12:08] Propose Charter Amendment, authorize a renewal of the millage not to exceed 3.4591 mills

[12:16] for three years, fiscal year 2017-18, fiscal year 2018-19.

[12:23] fiscal year 2019 to 2020, so early for police and fire purposes.

[12:31] Some move up good.

[12:34] Go up and up the discussion. City Attorney, would you take the lead?

[12:38] The first thing I'm going to say, dictation doesn't always work as the word is

[12:41] relation, not reduction. I don't know how that happened. Just so you know you stumbled

[12:46] over that, we're a nice stumbled over hearing it too.

[12:48] You know, this one, it was always revealed that charter amendments, at least in my 37

[12:53] years here with the city, that we've proposed, said it's perfect, but in putting the map

[12:57] together on the timing, based upon the previous charter amendments, anyone back with the entire

[13:02] file on this particular marriage of rape, the yours have to be more clearly defined, and there

[13:08] is no change.

[13:09] I believe these are the three years you wanted, and if they are, it's a copy that I met

[13:13] out immediately met with the clerk and prepared this thing at 3.30 this afternoon. So you need

[13:18] to act today so we can just advise the RTA Board tomorrow. This is a brilliant review,

[13:23] bringing that down to the clerk as soon as the governor signs off. I understand this signature is

[13:27] eminent.

[13:30] In further discussion? Clerk, all the roll. Councilor President, does this be?

[13:48] Yes.

[13:48] Moving

[13:52] to a count contains payable over $25,000.

[13:56] Resolved that the account of some claims payable for those items greater than $25,000,

[14:00] pursuant to emergency manager or 60 be approved as follows.

[14:05] City Riverview, February 2016, dumping, $25,371.76, Wayne County annual debt payments

[14:16] under revenue bonds, $266,643, and 51 cents.

[14:23] Municipal Employees Retirement System, March 2016, ME defined benefit payment, $261,762,33.

[14:33] 3 cents, Wayne County, Access Flow, March 2016, $69,490, Wayne County, Access Flow, April 2016, $69,490, Great Lakes Water Authority, February 2016 Water, $175,450, and $63.

[14:56] sense.

[14:57] Rizzo Environmental Services March 2000.

[15:00] Resolution 16, transaction, $105,000, $40,000, $58,000. Before we resolve the resolution, we

[15:08] They implemented and given its immediate effect upon the approval of the Lincoln Park Transition Advisory Report.

[15:17] I'll move.

[15:18] This is for discussion.

[15:23] We're calling the right.

[15:24] Mayor Ponds.

[15:24] Yes.

[15:25] Councilperson Candace.

[15:26] Yes.

[15:27] Does it ski?

[15:28] Yes.

[15:28] The Santo.

[15:29] Cassie.

[15:29] Yes.

[15:30] Matthew.

[15:34] We'll do the city manager's report, Mr. Copper.

[15:38] We'll do everyone.

[15:39] I will provide you with an overview of the last couple of weeks' worth of work.

[15:45] I just want to call out a couple of things to your attention tonight.

[15:49] First off, I remember three on the list is about last week with Jim Beziak, who is with global

[16:08] here. He is, we're telling him we're looking for him to come in at the May 16th meeting

[16:13] to do an update on where he stands in the renovation and sell each one of the properties,

[16:20] and play with that potentially on that Sunday, which would be May 15th. He's going to open

[16:25] up a few of the homes, so we'll provide you the addresses if you'd like to go see the work

[16:30] that's actually been done firsthand. I will say that the houses that he showed me are

[16:36] they are done very nicely. I think they've met one of their roles of improving the value of the properties

[16:46] what he had said to me was the offers that they were seeing on the properties that had been placed out to sell

[16:53] are coming very close to what they anticipated. So I let you know specifically what the dates are,

[16:59] other items that are smaller-wise so we can get you out there to take a look and get

[17:04] him in here to give us an update on that.

[17:07] The other item is on the backside is the budget documents.

[17:14] I hope to have him to you today, unfortunately we're still working through some of the issues

[17:19] of balancing the budget.

[17:21] My intention is tomorrow morning to have an electronic version out to everybody and we're going

[17:26] a hard copy in the boxes by the end of the day.

[17:31] So that's going, I think, you know, one of the rules that we're trying to do is keep

[17:35] it within, or I call it four rules, or the emergency manager's budget.

[17:39] I think we're pretty close and in a lot of the areas to do in that, so moving them around

[17:44] to address some of the bigger issues that we have within the city.

[17:50] Also, I want to let people know that the dangerous voting board has technically set May 19th

[17:58] as their next meeting and there's been some interest in when that's going to happen.

[18:03] May 19th is where I was told, it's supposed to be finalized very shortly, but that will be the dates.

[18:11] And if there's any questions, I'm glad to answer.

[18:33] Yeah, there's been a lot of different names there, but I think the purchase rise, you know,

[18:50] If you see me, you say there in Ralph, we're going to just in the house, they're going to talk about it.

[18:56] Yeah, so as soon as I get that, uh...

[18:59] Yeah, yeah, as soon as I get that.

[19:01] Now, they're marching.

[19:02] Now, all that has to be done, they're working on it.

[19:07] They're working on it.

[19:07] I hope they're going to work with it because they're going to see it work.

[19:11] In the time, they're working on it.

[19:15] They're going to have a few more.

[19:28] Okay, then we will go to the Department of Head Report, and we have the DPS, hard drive to Mr.

[19:36] Kazoo.

[19:38] Thank you very much.

[19:43] Mayor and Council and City Manager and City Attorney.

[19:48] I'm just here to give you an update on some of the projects that we're working on.

[19:54] I'm Jim Hansworth from Hennessy Engineers.

[19:57] Thank you.

[19:57] Thank you, Mayor.

[19:59] We'll start out with sanitary sewer, state revolving loan, which is the SRF project.

[20:05] That's a sanitary sewer rehabilitation program.

[20:09] That includes the cured and placed full-length lining, as well as some spot lining.

[20:16] So in that project, we'll have about 15,000 feet of cleaning and televised sanitary sewers.

[20:21] And then we'll have full-length liners for those sewers.

[20:26] We'll also have the care in place spotliners under this program and there's about 20,000

[20:34] feet of cleaning and televising of sanitary sewers with approximately 84 repair locations.

[20:42] And we'll also have manhole rehabilitation as part of this project.

[20:46] The loan closing took place last Monday and the pre-construction meeting is scheduled for April

[20:52] 27th.

[20:53] The expected work should start in May.

[20:59] So we'll have a better idea at the pre-construction meeting as to when the contractor plans to start.

[21:05] Moving on, we have the Pagel Street Reconstruction.

[21:09] And this would be from west of electric to Wilson.

[21:13] The survey work has been completed.

[21:16] We are working on the design right now.

[21:18] We anticipate putting that out for bids approximately the third week of May.

[21:24] We have the asphalt resurfacing program.

[21:27] That would include sea cut from Lafayette to Fort Street, Lafayette from Southfield to

[21:33] Cuppen, progress from Lafayette to Fort Street, O'Connor from Fort Street to Chandler, college

[21:43] from Howard to Lafayette.

[21:45] We're finishing up the design right now, and we expect to have that going out to bed

[21:52] sometime early next week.

[21:54] Then we have a concrete suctioning program, which includes Applewood from Lincoln to Champaign,

[22:04] Lafayette from Buckingham to Liberty, New York from Fort to Fort Park, as well as utilities

[22:15] utility and catch basin repairs throughout the city. Again, the design we're

[22:20] working on that design right now as well and we're expecting that to go out to

[22:24] bed sometime next week or early the following week.

[22:29] Next we have electric

[22:31] avenue intersection improvements. That's the intersections of electric and

[22:36] Monty, Electric and Russell, and Electric and O'Connor.

[22:43] The RTAB approval for the design is expected at tomorrow's meeting.

[22:49] So once we have that approval, we will begin surveying right away.

[22:53] We are already anticipating that, so we've put it into the schedule, but we'll wait for the approval.

[23:00] One of the other projects we've been working on is the retention basin.

[23:04] You may recall that we're having issues with the pond erosion and stabilization, so we did put together a plan.

[23:12] We had some boring stuns so we know what type of soil conditions we're working on.

[23:18] So we have designed a sheet piling for that pond to protect it and prevent further erosion.

[23:25] We are expecting that to go out to bed early next week as well.

[23:29] So one of the newest things are kind of not new, but we've been having issues with the retention

[23:34] basin leaking in some undermining of the around the basin.

[23:43] So I know the Department of Public Works as well as some contractors have been looking

[23:50] at that.

[23:51] And we're doing further investigation.

[23:54] We did find a rather large crack in the wall

[23:57] between above the in-influent lines.

[24:05] What it does is the pumps pump water

[24:07] into the Influent Channel.

[24:09] And then that gates control what?

[24:12] Where the water goes into each basin.

[24:14] We did find a crack in the wall.

[24:17] And I believe John may talk more about that in his reports.

[24:21] which I won't go into that too much.

[24:24] The last project is the Hazel Street Bridge.

[24:27] The plans and specifications are completed.

[24:31] MDOT is issuing all the permits right now.

[24:35] That project is scheduled to go out to bed

[24:37] with a bit opening in June.

[24:40] So we should be seeing that project start

[24:43] in the very near future.

[24:46] And I welcome any questions if anyone has any questions.

[25:11] Yes, sir.

[25:12] Yes, sir.

[25:42] have fitted that it take 5, 3, and 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5. I don't know if I said one,

[25:47] one, a cost of $600 for which I've run a code, that I've done. And then the one after

[25:56] the amount, I say, 5.51 side, 10 if it, next, which, you know, the 5.50 because I'm

[26:42] I guess if I'm understanding you correctly you'd like to have the quantities in there

[26:48] server if they do ten feet they get paid for ten you know ten feet by five feet they

[26:55] do five feet they get paid five by five I know you gotta put them up yeah I put it $125

[27:01] $5 and $125 and how much it is to put this down, because it's not a whole one to share.

[27:08] I don't want to lose this $1,200 and 25 feet, I don't believe in the contract, I don't

[27:14] believe in nobody because it's nothing but a show and everything's safe.

[27:20] Do you do that for me please?

[27:21] Yeah, I do.

[27:22] I don't get what's wrong with that, but Ryan to make sure that's how we have it set on.

[27:26] And when you say that before they go out of the bed, you money,

[27:31] pack a similar bed sheets, take a look at those,

[27:34] rent them out of bed, done, because email, okay, do you want them faxed?

[27:39] Email it to me.

[27:40] Okay. Okay.

[27:41] I don't know what to do with the English.

[27:44] I don't done it.

[27:46] No, I just wanted to make sure I did what you wanted done, for sure.

[27:50] The rest of the, the rest of those of the job are left for you after this and that.

[27:53] I know you've got to go the other way, you know, to really chair the river because you've got to go in one inch and a foot, if you've got to take it out, two, four, five, five, four, come here to jump.

[28:06] But you've got a specific age of an arm and a square of feet.

[28:09] I might cost a square of feet to replace it.

[28:13] Will it chair?

[28:14] It sure am.

[28:14] Yeah.

[28:15] Thank you very much.

[28:16] Thank you very much.

[28:17] Anyone else?

[28:18] May I serve the chair?

[28:20] Yes.

[28:20] Yes sir.

[28:21] Yes sir.

[28:22] Would you please put on your geologist cap and explain the difference in clay content and

[28:28] soil between the west side of the state and southeastern Michigan and how the effects

[28:34] water run off in drainage?

[28:36] I would like to but I am mad at geologists to be honest with you so-

[28:41] So you will not answer the question.

[28:43] I don't have a head trip to that question to be honest with you.

[28:45] I will take you over there and I'm doing counsel remarks thank you.

[28:49] Yep.

[28:49] Okay. Very good. And if you need anything on that, I would be glad to do anything or find out for sure.

[28:56] So if you have something you would like me to check into, I would be absolutely glad to do that.

[29:01] I'll get your card after the meeting. Thank you.

[29:07] Good evening, Mayor and Council.

[29:09] John, because of GPS factor, couple of items, Jim touched basically, or lightly on the crack that we had found at the retention basin.

[29:17] and it is an ugly crack.

[29:20] We will, Tennessee and the deep gas will be meeting

[29:24] with various contractors in assessing what has to be done

[29:31] and how quickly we can get it done

[29:32] and a best method of correcting it.

[29:36] We do have some leakage and we've,

[29:38] where it's leaking externally and also back into our well wall.

[29:43] When you say externally, you're saying that it's going into the creek?

[29:47] No, right now it is going into a courtyard at the retention basin.

[29:54] So it's being right now conditionally contained.

[30:01] And I'm just going to leave it at that.

[30:05] Some of your other items that Jim did not touch on because

[30:09] there was an issue for a while with Wayne County. Wayne County has started the construction

[30:16] process on Moran. They started that knowing process last Friday. And I want to call it

[30:23] Moran. Wayne County calls it Goddard, but it's basically from my 75 to Dicks, so that process

[30:29] has started.

[30:32] The other thing, a couple of other things, and I don't know if you have a copy of

[30:37] our muffler report from March that's going to be going to the out tab. If you do, great, if not,

[30:44] I'm going to go through it here pretty quickly. Some of those items that we have addressed at some

[30:51] in the various buildings, we've had 11 issues here at City Hall, 12 at the courthouse,

[31:00] 2 at the fire, 4 at the library, 6 at the place department, 15 at the senior center,

[31:09] Multiple has completed 20, 21 service calls, 44 majors, excuse me, 44 minors, 7 majors.

[31:22] We've had service calls, which is where we have to go out to intersect or retrieve the vehicle off the street.

[31:33] We have received 450 calls into our dispatch.

[31:38] We've replaced 45 signs,

[31:43] core patch, we've put out 50 times, we've put approximately 640

[31:48] man hours into that.

[31:50] We are trying to get our spray patch out so far, the asphalt plants are not yet producing

[31:58] emotion.

[31:58] They just started forming up the asphalt or the tuneless plants yesterday, so we're hoping

[32:04] to receive that emulsion this week, and if that's the case, we'll get the spray patch

[32:09] machine out.

[32:11] We've picked up four evictions.

[32:16] Water product, we've had 59 citizen request issues or items.

[32:21] We've done nine water shutoffs, 27 water turnouts.

[32:27] We've cleaned out 23 catch basins.

[32:30] We have jetted out 1672 linear feet of storm sewer and we've cleaned out 20,684 linear feet of sanitary sewer.

[32:48] We also have tables and chairs, excuse me, tables and garbage cans out in the parks because with the warm of weather people are getting out into the parks more.

[32:59] This may not mean a whole lot to this board here, where the mayor and council, but all of the lights on all of the city buildings, exterior lights are functioning.

[33:12] That is the first time in the time that I have been here in seven years that that has happened,

[33:19] and I think that's pretty amazing.

[33:23] Park for the little leagues and here in the community have what we call little league south

[33:27] and little league north. All of their facilities are functioning except for one concession stand

[33:33] and we're having some electrical issues with that presently and soon to be resolved.

[33:42] One of the things that has been very paramount so far and I'm thankful that it's mother nature that has helped us.

[33:52] Last show about this time, the city had been in receipt of approximately 180 water man breaks, 180.

[33:59] This year we have only had 17.

[34:04] And I am hoping it's all because of mother nature being very forgiving.

[34:10] So we're very light on water man breaks, but I hope saying this doesn't jinx us.

[34:16] Does anybody have any questions or comments that I could help them with?

[34:21] Mayor, through the chair?

[34:23] Yes, sir.

[34:23] Good.

[34:24] Okay, John.

[34:25] All exterior lights are working at all city buildings.

[34:28] Yes, sir.

[34:28] It's a very, very big thing.

[34:30] Speaking for someone that has glaucoma,

[34:32] red and allentral fibroplasia,

[34:33] night blindness,

[34:34] and a whole bunch of other Latin things that are wrong with my eyes.

[34:38] So, that's a big thing,

[34:40] and it's a great thing,

[34:42] because it makes it everything more safe.

[34:46] Thank you, Mayor.

[34:47] Thank you.

[34:47] Through the chair.

[34:48] Oh, sorry.

[34:49] just one thing when you do get these freight hatching machine out if you

[34:55] look at Harrison. Harrison was just redone. I suggest it was probably

[35:01] 70 years ago but I think that there's a cracking that's going on the

[35:08] center of that. Harrison from right away. Harrison from Fort Street to River Drive

[35:15] basically, where it was, where I noticed the cracks were between

[35:20] ghoul, yeah,

[35:25] already, buttons down and down the center, it's

[35:28] something, I think that's something that they're preventive

[35:33] maintenance, it's something that could be done like a

[35:36] computer basis, I mean we want to keep the decent rows that we got

[35:41] decent, right? Exactly. And that's what we got the spray

[35:46] That's one of many items, just a question for you John, a good report by the way, thank you, most of that stuff being Mario here were there Friday's but it was nice to hear the rest of the stuff that we don't hear.

[36:03] I got a question for you, I had a resident call and asked me that the Nights of Columbus Hall and out of drive, it backs up to the creek and then it backs up to a field and it backs up to a residential street.

[36:14] A couple of the residents called, and we're asking if they take some of that debris down along the creek there between the KSC and the actual field.

[36:23] If they bundled up, it'll nice if you could send somebody over there to pick that up and dispose of it.

[36:28] Is that possible or does that sound different?

[36:30] If they bundle it, no.

[36:32] My question is, is it within the drain right away?

[36:37] I don't know. They've had an issue.

[36:38] I think the Knights of the Columbus have been taking care of that drain or that creek

[36:43] I should say the area there and they were asking if they volunteered and did it

[36:47] I don't know what that entails. That's why I'm asking you typically I would say that would be up to Wayne

[36:52] County but I don't think Wayne County unless it is a tree that has physically fallen into the creek

[36:59] we're really not going to give much participation from Wayne County so

[37:04] So accident that, if they wanted to put in the time and effort, we'll do our damnedest

[37:08] to get it picked up because they're trying to make it look better in order to get rid

[37:16] of it.

[37:16] Yes, we would try to do that.

[37:18] They're going to drag it out to the streets, so it's not going to be in a click, it'll

[37:21] be dragged out.

[37:22] Right.

[37:22] Street, so you can.

[37:23] But what I worry about is them doing a tremendous job in creating a tremendous workload.

[37:32] Hello.

[37:32] I would suggest that if the KSC got a hold of our intern

[37:37] and he could facilitate between both parties

[37:40] and set up, because we used to have a correct cleanup day.

[37:44] They used to do that, you're on it,

[37:45] but they don't do what haven't done for the last numerous years.

[37:48] But we can start something.

[37:51] That's fine.

[37:52] I think they were just answering that.

[37:53] That Adam would be the person to go through.

[37:58] As we did the park clean-ups last year,

[38:00] this could be the start of you know the sections of correct I'll do that then I'll

[38:06] give that on the residence phone number and he can coordinate that and they can coordinate

[38:09] with you Johnny what was that okay with you then thank you very much I appreciate you thank you

[38:14] anything further excuse me well thank you sir I'm going to thank you

[38:21] Mr. Rale had a complaint about a block, let me call those things, sewer, retention basin

[38:32] out on the street, yes sir, and he took care of their problem properly, so nice job

[38:38] on that.

[38:39] And if you would not mind staying during citizen communication in case there's a question

[38:48] We will move into citizen communication my

[39:01] name is I do share here live in Lincoln Park and I think all the Lincoln Parkers got their summer

[39:08] 2016 issue of city of Lincoln Park happenings

[39:12] There's four pages of water report in the issue on page 12

[39:17] There was a good paragraph about lead. I hope everyone reads it.

[39:23] The article says some of the things I have been saying for the last couple of

[39:27] council meetings. Now we hear that the public schools in Detroit, some of the

[39:33] public schools in Detroit got lead in their water. How did it get there? They

[39:38] didn't say. Maybe like we get lead in our water from the lead in the

[39:43] the solder which was used to solder the copper pipes together until Congress banned the

[39:48] use of lead solder in 1986.

[39:52] And through the chair, I'd like to ask Mr. Kazoo

[39:57] about, we had about ten houses in the

[40:01] last few years that were demolished, and I think the DPS disconnected the water services

[40:07] to those houses?

[40:12] Did anyone notice what kind of pipe was used? The lead iron or copper?

[40:17] All the top of my head.

[40:25] The answer to that question is no, but we do have three by five cards,

[40:32] and some of that information is on those cards, but every home, no, we do not have every home.

[40:39] Because the fuel when they disconnected the pipes, I thought maybe they made a record

[40:44] of it.

[40:45] Because it would, this will give us an idea of the older homes in Lincoln Park, how they

[40:52] get their water if it's from lead pipes like in Flint there.

[40:56] No one seems to know what kind of, what we have a lot of lead pipes or we don't have any

[41:02] or what.

[41:03] And I was thought maybe when you disconnect these houses, somebody would have noticed.

[41:08] is what it was. They lead the pipe right in the ground when they disconnected.

[41:17] As you what does happen is we terminate it. If it's out in the street, I'd rather

[41:23] not terminate it. Break up the street to terminate it at the water main. So all we do

[41:27] is we will put a fitting on it and terminate it back of curb. And if you have those addresses

[41:35] and you'd like to know, we could probably locate through our records, limited records,

[41:40] What kind of pipe it is?

[41:43] Thank you.

[41:45] I wonder if anyone is checking with the Great Lakes Water Authority

[41:51] to see if they are putting phosphates in the water to stop the lead

[41:56] from leaching to the drinking water.

[41:59] And don't forget to bring your old newspapers to the bins on

[42:03] Cleophus behind the library.

[42:05] and April 29th is the beginning of the friend's book sale at the library and so it gets your

[42:15] library update to give you all the details on the book sale coming up. Thank you.

[42:20] Thank

[42:22] you, sir.

[42:26] Good evening, Mayor and Councilor Richard Kudrek. I keep talking about lawsuits, tax increases.

[42:33] The Honeywell lawsuit that nobody better to tell us about the righty special assessment

[42:37] district, $50,000 per motion of tax, charging me $25 just to process my property taxes.

[42:44] Get the Moors lawsuit for retiree pensions coming up, that'll be added to tax bills.

[42:50] We got the lawsuit for retiree, health care, lawsuit, that'll be added to tax bills.

[42:55] We're going to vote on the head, we're going to vote on public safety, ballot proposals again.

[43:00] And the city is going to be getting lots of money and, of course, I'm worried what's

[43:04] the city going to do for residents.

[43:06] Having a massive problem of fixing the roads, I know you got a road improvement plan going

[43:11] now, but my road is down under this.

[43:13] I don't know why anybody voted for that $20 million road bond proposal.

[43:17] I know I did want you to raise my property taxes for 10 years if you're not going to fix

[43:22] my road.

[43:23] They didn't make a lot of sense to me.

[43:25] Well, when we're passing police and fire, we're not hiring any more police and fire

[43:29] so public safety is not being improved and I was going to say you're not

[43:34] increasing my property values that I got my notice of assessment. Hey my

[43:39] property value, my tax value, you want up $141. Lord and I said that was

[43:45] exciting and then I saw I was checking on the the pretty my agenda and I read

[43:51] about oh I'm going to have contractors, not employees, contractors running on

[43:55] the neighborhoods, taking pictures and taking measurements, and of course the only purpose

[44:01] of this is to raise property taxes, and I'm afraid to do something good for the residents

[44:06] with all of the sex to many of you folks that are trying to get, do the chair and I ask

[44:11] a question.

[44:14] The last meeting, this has nothing to do with the fire department by the way, this has to

[44:17] do with city council.

[44:19] The last meeting, the fire chief mentioning the two captains who were going for training,

[44:23] $6,000, they got a grant for $3,000, and I was going through past the genders and I couldn't find any

[44:33] counsel approval for this $3,000. So I sent an email to the city manager and they were asking

[44:39] what did this approval come from and how we got no response, I'll ask in public. Why does the

[44:45] council have to approve and get the account number for training for the police department but

[44:50] It doesn't have to do that for a federal department, and that's not a negative question.

[44:54] That's a statement of understanding question.

[44:57] Why do you not have to approve training?

[45:00] For the fire department, when you do that for the police. Good question. What's good for one is good for all.

[45:08] I have to look into it, sir. I can't give the answer right now. Okay. Well, I said I did try to do this privately, but if you don't respite in my email, I'll ask you in private in public, rather so about three or four days after the last meeting.

[45:21] Thank you.

[45:23] Okay, good night, please.

[45:26] You responded.

[45:37] Oh, all right.

[45:39] There were Council for Direfits.

[45:42] One thing I did when I was saying,

[45:46] I wanted all of those other residents

[45:49] to stay there.

[45:51] today, getting some exercise and acting all through the way around the park.

[45:56] I was presently surprised at the good job that the city did a keeping the restrooms clean.

[46:01] I would urge the citizens when you patronize parks to do the same thing.

[46:06] I really know there was a lot of trash to be around the creek.

[46:10] The city does put trash receptacles out, so residents please make use of those trash receptacles.

[46:17] is the grass on the creek, as well as life and it's not a place for the trash.

[46:23] And speaking of things that are trash, last meeting I talked about my friend's house,

[46:30] so it's 70 white street, whatever they go.

[46:35] And I noticed that even though the trees aren't bloom as big as the base of those trees are,

[46:42] you've got a section between the street and the saddle up there, it's this big, but the

[46:46] trees like this big, and you've got the root system growing up, pushing up the sidewalk

[46:51] to that.

[46:52] I think regardless of whether or not the trees are still in good shape, they've got

[46:56] a lot of old branches on that are practically killing the trees.

[47:03] And I think the field falls on, his trunk, or their trunk, around their house.

[47:07] I think the trees should just basically be removed, because the stumps are too wide for that

[47:12] section of grass.

[47:13] It doesn't make sense to leave an inacquainted tree, you know, that fire, you know, down in there.

[47:21] I've noticed that those portions of the street that are even raised up, the sidewalks are raised up.

[47:28] Somebody went out there and I was trying to get a follow-up on it, hopefully they can get those trees down,

[47:35] because it just doesn't make any bit of sense to have, you know, a section of grass that is right,

[47:41] but then you've got a tree twice as wide in there where it can push up the sidewalks.

[47:46] It wouldn't make any sense to replace or repair the sidewalks without first getting rid of the trees

[47:51] that are causing the problems with the sidewalk in the first place.

[47:55] And I think since people invest a lot of money in their houses and are here for the duration,

[48:03] I think, you know, that's something that should be looked into.

[48:05] and we know it's kind of, you know, only fair to the residents who are paying their taxes

[48:11] and being good citizens and keeping your hearts up.

[48:14] So, thank you.

[48:27] Good evening, my name is Tom Parkinson.

[48:30] The coming out with the assessors to measure your lot and everything, that's all already

[48:36] been done.

[48:37] I have friends up north that they hired outside contracts to do this.

[48:41] They double and triple taxes up north, and all is because the outside contracts don't

[48:45] care. And as far as allowing them in your house, I won't allow anybody in my house. For sure,

[48:51] not our outside country is going to do things like that. Never know who you like. We've never, ever

[48:56] before had assessors come inside your house. So why, why are they, really want to come in your house now?

[49:01] They know. Well, it's listed on the thing. It's just, uh, it's just something about in your house.

[49:09] Out.

[49:17] Yes, you're going to. They will not be entering any structures if you're not home. They will

[49:25] No, there's no plan for them to go inside of the homes.

[49:29] Okay.

[49:30] Did anybody, when they were looking at all the bridges over the creek?

[49:34] Did anybody ever inspect the Victoria Street Bridge?

[49:38] I don't think anybody knows it's there anymore, but it's a bridge that the city is supposed to maintain.

[49:43] Does anybody, John?

[49:47] The Victoria Street Bridge? Through the chair?

[50:03] I just thought about the other day and I think I saw the handrails behind that thing's

[50:09] still sticking up.

[50:10] So there is a bridge here.

[50:11] My hand used to live just two dollars down from that before that they tore everything

[50:15] up there on Victoria Street.

[50:16] I

[50:22] think they don't go over that long time ago, but I don't know if you got a bit of

[50:25] marshal to Victoria and make a laugh and you'll go up to the end and there's a bridge

[50:30] there.

[50:32] I just thought about it the other day to wonder if you're going through all those bridges.

[50:36] You might want to see if that's the two of you in any way.

[50:40] Thank you.

[50:49] And we'll move on to our report on Council on Mayra.

[50:53] Council President Murphy.

[50:55] Thank you, Art.

[50:56] I've got a number of things I need to talk to you about tonight.

[50:59] First of all, instead of something good, Cliff Eberts, one of our council audience people

[51:07] that come up here every week, he's got a birthday tomorrow, so Cliff, I want to wish you a happy birthday.

[51:12] Thanks for coming down again.

[51:15] Also want to let you know that I've been meeting with Paul Clementi, our state representative.

[51:20] Many of you may or may not realize that you're going to be getting an insurance increase

[51:25] for your other insurance and it's because the wise people in the state have

[51:32] decided that you're not paying enough money for the fund, the catastrophic

[51:38] fund that they charge you for. That fund is drawing in excess of 184 million

[51:47] dollars in interest every year because it's not really being used to any great

[51:52] except, but your insurance is going up because they have calculated in their own minds that

[51:59] you're not paying enough and that somewhere down the line you're going to have to, they're

[52:04] going to have to be paying out more money. So even though we're not using even the interest

[52:09] on the money for that cash drive fund, you're going to be getting an auto insurance increase.

[52:15] You meet Paul Clomenius is looking at that. I asked him to look into it when I got my

[52:21] notice last week. But this kind of stuff is ridiculous. You know, the state seems to

[52:28] think that money grows on trees. And the fun that the have a raise in our insurance

[52:35] rates for money that they're not even using now is totally ridiculous. Paul was going

[52:42] I'll be here tonight, I ask them to come down and give us a little report on that.

[52:46] And he is looking into it and I'll get back with you and let you know what's happening

[52:50] on that because it just doesn't seem right to me.

[52:54] The other thing I asked a couple of minutes ago about the update for the foreclosure information.

[53:02] As you may or may not know at the end of March the Wayne County sends the city's aid notice

[53:09] of all the people who are in danger of having their homes

[53:15] foreclosed on.

[53:16] We have committed through the emergency manager

[53:21] to get that list and forward information

[53:25] to people on that list, different ways

[53:28] that they can be helped through different agencies

[53:31] and whatnot.

[53:32] I just trying to find out, manager, where are we on that?

[53:37] because that list should come to us about three weeks ago and our city treasurer had not

[53:46] received at that time, but I want to stay on top of this because we don't need more homes

[53:50] going into foreclosure only in part.

[53:52] Yeah, as of last week, we have received it.

[53:54] Okay, what do we need to do to get on somebody to make sure that we get that information?

[53:58] Because, you know, we're going to be doing the foreclosures right about in August.

[54:02] So we've got a very tiny window to get with our people that are in trouble and let them know what they can do to save themselves.

[54:11] And I want to make sure that we do as people that are representing everyone in Lincoln Park, I want to make sure that we do everything we can to keep those houses for being foreclosed.

[54:22] Not only is it harmful for the people who are losing their homes, but for the next door neighbor and neighbors on the block

[54:29] that have to live with those big orange stickers all over the homes that do go under.

[54:35] The property maintenance that isn't done because those homes are gone under.

[54:40] We need to do everything we can to help these people make sure that everything possible has been done

[54:46] to keep them from going in for closure.

[54:48] So if you could find out what we need to do, let's do it because, you know, we've had quite a few foreclosures and I can park.

[54:56] We don't need more.

[54:59] The last thing that I have heard tonight is something that has, I received word from a state senator on this week.

[55:08] and it really kind of upset me because apparently the LGBT, the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender

[55:24] group is coming together in the state of Michigan and they're trying to adopt some policies

[55:32] and regulations that are going to seriously affect every man, woman, and child in the state

[55:40] of Michigan. The state is having a hearing on May 10th in Lansing, regarding some changes

[55:49] in our schools. They're going to discuss whether or not these proposals at the LGBT have requested

[55:57] that are going to be put in effect or not.

[56:00] Now, just to give you a little idea of what we're talking about here, the LGBT is apparently

[56:09] recommending, as in a group, that the responsibility of determining a student's gender identity

[56:16] rest with a student, 10, 12, 13, 14 years old, outside confirmation from medical, mental

[56:25] health professionals or documentation of legal changes is not needed so you're

[56:32] going to have a child determined that today he's little Johnny but tomorrow he's

[56:39] going to be little Johnny he gets to make that decision while anybody else

[56:44] saying anything about it and little Johnny today can go in your daughter's

[56:50] bathroom tomorrow as little Jenny and share the bathroom with her. Little Johnny, who

[56:57] is now a girl, can go into your child's, your little girl's showers.

[57:06] This is something

[57:07] that we cannot permit to happen in the state of Michigan. It's happened to other places.

[57:13] If you want to make sure this does not happen in the city of Lincoln Park and in the state

[57:17] Michigan, you need to get a whole of your state board and let them know that you're upset

[57:23] about this.

[57:24] You need to contact your local school boards and have those officials get on the horn

[57:31] and let it be known that this is not something that we want.

[57:35] Now there are some other considerations that this group has put together about dealing with

[57:41] the feelings of transgender gay and bisexual people that seem to make somewhat sense

[57:48] anyway.

[57:48] But these kind of things here, when you're going to have kids deciding who they are and

[57:54] nobody can say anything about it, you're going to have little Johnny deciding that if he

[57:58] wants to go in the girls bathroom today, he's little Jenny.

[58:02] If he wants to watch the little girl shower, he's little Jenny, we cannot let this happen.

[58:09] And there's a saying in the past that all that needs to happen to let evil occur is for

[58:17] good men and women to do nothing.

[58:20] We have got to stand up and do something.

[58:22] So I urge you, contact your school board here in Lincoln Park, we are meeting tomorrow

[58:28] night in Lincoln Park, Lincoln Park Schools have a school board meeting.

[58:32] Let your rep is, you know, turn them to their channel.

[58:36] Let them know that you're aware of this

[58:38] and you don't want this happening in your city.

[58:41] You don't want this happening in the state of Michigan.

[58:43] And if you don't do anything, you deserve what you get.

[58:48] That's all I have, you all right?

[58:50] Yes. Thank you, sir.

[58:52] Councilman Kansas.

[58:53] I will pass. Thank you, Mayor.

[58:56] Councilman Zone is not here.

[59:03] You are, before you talk about John as a gardener, Alison Sweet, I give it to him to the

[59:13] same.

[59:15] If we don't do nothing for those sweet,

[59:20] still we'll serve it, all over the bed, you'll

[59:24] say to me where we write to you.

[59:27] This is something that we've done at least a couple of years since June and it's true.

[59:34] I think that Mr. Motu will soon watch it coming up.

[59:38] Some of the ways are how you got to put some money to put out a blue suit during it,

[59:45] because the DPS there used to do it.

[59:49] There used to have a machine too.

[59:50] There used to have any guys.

[59:51] back to the machine as I know it happened and then they never done. I think if you can find the money.

[1:00:30] I'm a million, million dollar to spend a year, status on one, but on one, they still get it bad. Which, you understand the matter? You say, quote, 406 is a less than a million dollar, no matter, no matter. And then we've got to use, uh, maybe a million dollar a pebble. Still, we've got a million and a half, a lot for it. What's the purification of those money and make it sick?

[1:01:28] to have passed it to say was a mistake. That's a little heavy.

[1:01:36] Councilman Kelsey. Did you want to ask Mr.

[1:01:39] Zeldt councilman? No, he was. Okay, no.

[1:01:41] Just deferred. Just deferred.

[1:01:45] Thank you. Who's a soup?

[1:01:50] Unfortunately, I got quite a few things

[1:01:52] and I'll try and make him brief.

[1:01:56] I had a question

[1:01:57] underneath the mayor's remarks, but I waited till now,

[1:01:59] Because the question I had is for the city manager is on the assessing of the houses.

[1:02:03] What is the purpose?

[1:02:04] It never said what the purpose was before.

[1:02:05] I'm assuming what the purpose, but assuming it's not a good word to use.

[1:02:09] So why are we doing this now?

[1:02:10] We use every 10 years, every 5 years, every 1 year.

[1:02:13] The state requires it.

[1:02:14] Okay.

[1:02:15] I think it's every 5 years.

[1:02:16] You have to do a review.

[1:02:18] I think if I have to think, I think they're spreading the syndrome up and doing a section

[1:02:21] each year.

[1:02:22] Okay.

[1:02:22] I would just curious.

[1:02:23] I just didn't say.

[1:02:24] Yeah.

[1:02:24] Go ahead.

[1:02:25] which this is amazing to the church. Before we come in the book, by four four years ago, the

[1:02:33] government gave it to us and the people who chose him in the park, and they were going

[1:02:39] to have a blueprint, and all of us had taken some people, and now we got to do again. The

[1:02:46] government did it by far, because it is a book.

[1:02:51] It was a book, a book, a book, a book, a book,

[1:02:53] Well, once a week with the report, what are they not going to see?

[1:02:57] Why is this?

[1:02:58] Now, you look at SKJ all the time.

[1:03:02] Well, he's in charge of this.

[1:03:04] He's a high contractor.

[1:03:05] So what's going on?

[1:03:06] He comes in agronon or the city manager answered.

[1:03:08] Well, I think he has.

[1:03:09] So I can verify that tomorrow.

[1:03:12] Let's send him back to the other way.

[1:03:15] A couple other questions I got is that we have a business here at Metro PCS

[1:03:22] BCS business over there on Ford Street, that we'll have to ask the city attorney, I'm

[1:03:28] assuming because I asked that to write a letter and we've had the police department

[1:03:31] over there.

[1:03:32] I don't know how many times given them tickets.

[1:03:36] So you know, it's kind of hard to build a relationship with the business when the business

[1:03:41] fronts itself off to the city and we spend, because I'm going to mind time on this issue.

[1:03:46] In this, and finally, I just got to email from the billion departments as they actually

[1:03:52] removed the illegal sign they had up there for four or five months.

[1:03:56] So I don't know if we're having a problem with enforcement because this thing was a long

[1:04:00] and well process, but I'd like to have a discussion of later things.

[1:04:04] What is our process for these problem people?

[1:04:06] And there's more here I'm going to get into, but that's one of them, okay.

[1:04:09] because, you know, I think it's very ridiculous as a city to send an ordinance officer every

[1:04:15] time you turn around on the weekend because they violate and they give them a ticket and

[1:04:19] they go for 30 days in front of the judge and guy knows what happens or doesn't, it's

[1:04:23] not my preview, but it's only ridiculous for the city when somebody fonts the rules that

[1:04:27] we put in place.

[1:04:30] The other issue I got is that there's a house that's been on cross from the Catholic Church

[1:04:36] number bank that was bought by the resident from HUD three years ago in the

[1:04:41] garage has been collapsed and it's still collapsing okay now I understand we

[1:04:45] going through a lot with the issue of the well-organization and blah blah blah

[1:04:48] we need to find a better system for that dangerous building board I don't know

[1:04:52] what it is but we need to talk about the process for that because this has been

[1:04:56] three years this house I mean the person I talked to at the polling place was

[1:05:00] there when he left or again left when he voted these would have been our

[1:05:03] Again, again, as you can ask me to say, three years later, what's going on with the house?

[1:05:07] I understand that, but the trouble is, nothing happens, that's my point.

[1:05:13] And there should be a penalty, which I think they're supposed to be.

[1:05:16] Why does that not be an elevated to the proper process?

[1:05:19] The other issue, there's a house next to Hoover School that was a rental,

[1:05:24] or a house that went in the foreclosure, whatever I call it.

[1:05:27] The garage between here still has the plastic turf over the garage.

[1:05:34] You can see from the Hoover School parking lot.

[1:05:36] I think we're playing in the Bob Dances July of last year.

[1:05:40] I mean, what am I missing here?

[1:05:42] It's all right.

[1:05:43] Okay.

[1:05:43] Now, I don't know if I didn't do that or somebody who didn't do it that follows the rules.

[1:05:48] We've been following the judge or be a happy fine for us, okay?

[1:05:52] The other issue I got is that there's a high to hit.

[1:05:54] I'm going to give you a picture of this.

[1:05:55] There's a hydroponics pass I wanted to counsel would you there's a hydroponics store down there

[1:06:00] You don't want to talk about something? Well, I went by there today

[1:06:03] It was out again, and this is on the weekend. This was taken. They put it out again today

[1:06:07] And the high little family took it off the front because it's getting close in time

[1:06:10] It went down the street to put it in the back. Why don't you want a main drag? You can't miss it

[1:06:15] Excuse me. We were framed from personal conversations. We will keep that room of the meeting

[1:06:21] It says it's something where you can just speak out when you choose to

[1:06:26] There's a for the council take a look at the question I got also was the fact that

[1:06:31] We have a problem with the fact that we're asking the residents to file the rules and

[1:06:37] It might be me maybe I get involved in too much like some of the other council people

[1:06:41] But I've got three or four that just seem to be a high process or enough to crack for some reason I don't understand the process

[1:06:47] And I've talked to the city manager, and I know I've talked to him and he's talked to

[1:06:51] court and then court has the ability or inability to contact or communicate with the

[1:06:57] county or a council person me okay and I had that talked to Matt about that. I don't

[1:07:02] think that's appropriate. We can't even sell it last time I checked even though there's

[1:07:06] a contractor. You know I go down there for legitimate, I would expect an email, I don't

[1:07:14] that. I got a problem with that. The other issue is that there was a person and

[1:07:22] here's the other email because I have a, I love paperwork just like everybody else

[1:07:26] does. Oh come on. Pass this on to the mayor and the city manager would you please?

[1:07:31] Yes sir. There's a person. Thank you councilman. There's a person that emailed me and I

[1:07:35] talked to man about this on a day. He'll be back and I still waiting for an answer on

[1:07:39] that. And man had told me a week ago that he'd take care of that.

[1:07:48] The other issue

[1:07:48] was is that we have the, I think that Mr. Kutrek was asking about last council meeting

[1:07:56] about lawsuits. I happen to go down to the Judge Drain's office when they have the

[1:08:01] lawsuit for the health care, and I can let him know in everybody else. The motions were

[1:08:05] read and the judge put a hold on it until he makes a decision on emotions. So that's where

[1:08:10] that health care lawsuit is for the retirees against the city and the pension board and

[1:08:14] and et cetera, et cetera, okay?

[1:08:16] By the way, the emergency manager order number 60 requires the city to discuss those

[1:08:22] when their clothes are in an open, and they discuss them in open so that the residents

[1:08:26] are aware of what happened to these lawsuits.

[1:08:28] And I think that's highlighted, but it's in louder 60, you can't miss it.

[1:08:33] The other thing is it's a road street, I think, could put up last week, talking about a

[1:08:38] white street.

[1:08:39] I went over there, and I took about kind of you can pass this to the council.

[1:08:43] All kinds of pictures of white street and I went and talked to the lady at white street.

[1:08:47] She was surprised I was there, Cliff.

[1:08:50] So I talked to her and I explained why I was there.

[1:08:52] She said, oh yeah, I'm not Cliff.

[1:08:53] We talked to them.

[1:08:54] I'm supposed to talk to you, I said, well, so I took pictures of the trains.

[1:08:58] I talked to John, well, John, John went over there and talked to the owner of the house.

[1:09:04] But to answer your question, I looked around the house because I didn't have, you know,

[1:09:08] I went there physically.

[1:09:09] It's on a brand new cement around there. What the person was complaining about is white street back on Fort Street

[1:09:14] Well white street runs into Fort Street, which is in those pictures, a lot of panels weren't fixed

[1:09:18] So I'm thinking it's in front of the person's house. I'm working on it. I won't take I can't find nothing

[1:09:25] Well, I've got those are two I talked to but I'm just saying I would appreciate and this is just one that if you give

[1:09:31] If afterwards give us a phone number or a second car or a lady or call the person because that's all I'm saying

[1:09:37] I'm sorry again. It's not you councilman. This isn't a free. I'm sorry.

[1:09:45] I guess on a different note the

[1:09:48] museum has spaghetti fundraisers at the moose lodge and I guess I don't know how many people came but

[1:09:54] it was nice because they're trying to raise money for the clock so if anybody they have any more fundraisers

[1:09:58] I think maybe we can help support that particular issue because they're trying to raise money for the

[1:10:02] clock and from the museum that they paid up front for to fix it and they're trying to get the

[1:10:06] money back. So, and there will be a fund, there will be really cloud is having a

[1:10:13] fund night at the cafeteria Lincoln Park on the 28th of April from 6 to 8 p.m.

[1:10:20] and if anybody can make it's a fun night for the kids they've got all kinds of

[1:10:23] groups there the police departments there the canines there the neighborhood watch

[1:10:28] a lot of the ROTC a lot of the groups are there it's nice for the kids and the

[1:10:32] family to have a good time and enjoy it at the thing so if anybody can come there

[1:10:36] It's very nice.

[1:10:37] I thought that man, I'm pretty well done.

[1:10:39] Thank you for the time, y'all.

[1:10:41] College of Endur Jenski.

[1:10:43] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:10:45] Let me see if I can tack Larry up the number of things

[1:10:49] I need to talk about.

[1:10:50] You want me to step to DDA meeting.

[1:10:53] And my apologies to DDA board.

[1:10:56] I think I'll have to miss in May.

[1:10:57] Hopefully I can make it.

[1:10:58] There's just still only 24 hours in one day, which

[1:11:02] someone would manufacture me a 30-hour day.

[1:11:07] Okay, all the way back to Sears, Slash Grand Sockwa, Slash Dicks and Southfield and Costco

[1:11:15] and everything.

[1:11:17] I gave two updates on this, I'm happy to, I went to my notes, made sure I was right.

[1:11:24] I actually talked to one, the real estate broker, the buyer, that buys properties and parcels

[1:11:32] for Costco back. I think three years ago? No. How many four years ago? Yes, there was four years ago,

[1:11:42] Pac-Rals administration. And he talked about the transitory nature of certain demographics of

[1:11:50] our neighborhoods, so forth, and so on, lots of economic stuff, so forth, and so on. Not enough money

[1:11:57] within that area for discretionary spending, so forth, and so on.

[1:12:01] That's all good.

[1:12:03] Although I mathematically told him that I've talked to people from Southwest all the way

[1:12:07] down the flat rock, and they're rich in for a casco.

[1:12:12] So it's not a decided issue at all, because you could probably get a smaller casco in there

[1:12:18] I have to do something with a DICS entrance there next to, um, is that Quampark?

[1:12:26] I'm a little off, so I'm a little off on target with that.

[1:12:31] It's been four years, has anybody checked the demographics and how they've changed

[1:12:37] in Lincoln Park? I sure have.

[1:12:40] And what I see after talking with officials in the school system,

[1:12:45] and with doing my own research is that the transitory component of our population is not

[1:12:52] so transitory anymore because we have a heck of a lot of Hispanic families that have

[1:12:56] moved in, put their kids in the school district, and we have now is kind of a solidifying demographic

[1:13:04] in that area.

[1:13:05] So, just a fancy way of seeing that, that Costco is kind of a good fit for Lincoln Park.

[1:13:12] And also, as far as we in South Dakota put them to that parcel for sale, there's two parties involved on that corner there.

[1:13:22] So, I'm going to leave it right at that. There's two parties involved in the development or non-development of that corner.

[1:13:28] So, do your own research.

[1:13:31] So, and the other party is also a real estate company.

[1:13:34] me. Anybody that thinks that seers is some kind of retail store anymore, they're not

[1:13:38] found on the news. So, do you research folks? There's a lot of information out there.

[1:13:44] You got to do more in Google search. You got to make some calls, but there's a lot of

[1:13:47] information out there. Thank you to a public printee and ASAP Signs. They've been very helpful

[1:13:54] in helping us get the proper promotional material for the time of a kind of book convention

[1:14:01] that is coming in July, more to come on that.

[1:14:04] Things are rolling pretty nice right now to last month.

[1:14:15] I'm point number three, if you.

[1:14:16] Yeah, the Sears, the Sears Shopping Senator at Foreign Self

[1:14:20] Field, if you want to see that area revitalized,

[1:14:23] do you know how big an area that is?

[1:14:25] That's acres upon acres upon acres.

[1:14:28] So we have development.

[1:14:29] You can put on $1,5 million in development there

[1:14:31] to pay on how high you want to go.

[1:14:33] Get involved, people.

[1:14:35] Get involved.

[1:14:36] Oh, yeah, right.

[1:14:37] It's matching the top of getting involved.

[1:14:38] So just to let you know, because you did it the last time, folks, there's a lot of

[1:14:45] the stuff going on in the park and there's a lot more to come.

[1:14:49] But getting involved, the economic development corporation, they get less people at their

[1:14:53] meetings than the DDA, and the DDA gets three or four.

[1:14:57] So...

[1:15:00] Because I can count them all.

[1:15:04] Developing that parcel, that's a big, big undertaking. It takes a lot of promotion, it takes a lot of planning, it takes a lot of hands. Get involved.

[1:15:32] want to be promoted and put out there. Please get involved. Please contact the

[1:15:35] Economic Development Corporation, go to our website. I, I, I, I just, it, it, it,

[1:15:42] my fellows meet to, to, to, to hear people talking about it, but talking and

[1:15:47] talking complaining is, is, is not the answer. Getting involved is the answer.

[1:15:52] There's a tagline for you. Okay. Speaking of getting involved. The next

[1:16:00] Next meeting through the Dumber Vertical Convention, we need 4 more volunteers so I can probably

[1:16:05] round out the number of adults that we need to handle the sensitive area and the ticket

[1:16:10] tables.

[1:16:11] Our next meeting we meet for planning is May 29th, 1.30 p.m., 4th Street Brewery, no RSVP

[1:16:19] required, although you can send me an email.

[1:16:23] And I would like 4 more adults to get involved, so we have enough people that, inside my

[1:16:28] own head, how many we need to to run that. And you know how this is shaping up to be a pretty

[1:16:33] good thing. There's only six bases left to run and then I'm going to start on a cancellation

[1:16:38] list after that. But we're looking at bringing it in. And for everybody that thinks that it's

[1:16:44] kind of okay, it's not. Kind of folks are very, very serious, kind of collectors are very serious.

[1:16:50] So I'd rather have 1,500, 2,000 kind of collectors coming into the city to want to

[1:16:57] or a convention that we're going to do as an annual regional event, right here in

[1:17:01] the city.

[1:17:02] So while we're putting together what it's starting to come together, and this is a partnership

[1:17:07] that I started with Terry Dangerfield in the school system, and he's been complete open

[1:17:12] hands and open arms on it, it's like, yep, let's do it, let's work on big projects and

[1:17:17] big events that benefit the city.

[1:17:19] So, and then after that we'll be a hands of the city general volunteer meeting, 2.30

[1:17:25] So in an hour after that, so given by our folks, there's good stuff going on and it's all about rebranding the city and so forth from Salon.

[1:17:36] Okay.

[1:17:37] Time how just so our residents know what I'm about to talk about.

[1:17:42] I did send an email, a advance to the mayor and other members of council and to the city manager.

[1:17:50] The three months that I've spent talking about the pension fund portfolio from an opinion

[1:17:56] point of view and analysis point of view, since there is no direct authority that Mayor

[1:18:01] and Council have regarding a police and fire retirement review board and that's a good

[1:18:07] thing to have it like that.

[1:18:09] So all my comments and any work I do on this, I do from an analysis point of view and opinion

[1:18:15] point of view.

[1:18:16] I'm not demanding that that that the board do anything just offering analysis and opinion

[1:18:22] and I say that six or seven times just to make sure we're all clear.

[1:18:25] Today I'm going to everybody please get out of pencil and of course I'll be splattering

[1:18:31] this all over the place.

[1:18:33] I'm going to host a time, hard workshop, Wednesday, July 27th, 6pm, VFW post 552, that's

[1:18:44] 11th, 25th, 4th Street, corner of Fort and Monty.

[1:18:48] I'm hosting this workshop for you to residents.

[1:18:52] Everybody complains about the state of the pension funds.

[1:18:56] Everybody knows about it.

[1:18:58] Everybody greaves and everything.

[1:19:00] That doesn't cut it anymore.

[1:19:02] I cannot be more serious when I say that getting a handle on properly protecting and investing

[1:19:08] to pension funds.

[1:19:09] It might be even at some point, again, from an analysis point of view, repatriating the

[1:19:15] most component back in, so we have a larger pot to work with.

[1:19:20] I know that frees up a lot of money, if invested properly, and it starts sustaining itself,

[1:19:26] we hit that 60 percent, so forth and so on, I know that frees up a lot of money from the

[1:19:32] general fund for the other things that people say they want so much, more police, you know,

[1:19:37] 3-4 million dollars a year for roads. This is a very, very big problem and it needs a very, very, very cohesive and concise solution.

[1:19:45] So be part of it. I'm putting on this workshop for you, the residents. It's going to be a very specific workshop.

[1:19:53] And the most specific thing we're going to start off with is that I'm planning on 150 people showing up at the VFW.

[1:20:01] So please you have three months go to the go to the review board meetings that's

[1:20:07] how quick in the morning I know that's hard go to them start doing your own

[1:20:11] research start doing your own analysis when you show up at the VFW I want to see

[1:20:17] ideas concrete comprehensive cohesive ideas home down ready to go and each table

[1:20:24] there's gonna be pens and paper and clipboards you're gonna be combining your

[1:20:28] ideas. It's only get to the schedule. The very least I can do is feed all of you. So when

[1:20:35] pizza, pop, chips, cheesy bread, it's on me. So if you got a family and hopefully you know

[1:20:45] one of you stay home with the kids, you get a one of you come. It's three of them people

[1:20:49] show up while they're more happy, a little bit hungry. I just 150 people, that's what I'm buying

[1:20:54] pizza for. So we need to have six at six thirty to seven thirty. I'm going to give a historical

[1:21:01] and economic presentation specifically geared towards how we got to this point. And when

[1:21:10] I say to this point, and how we, I mean, we America got to this point, okay. Lincoln Park

[1:21:16] does not operate in some kind of economic void. It's a very, it's a very smart economic system,

[1:21:22] But it's but the pension funds and everything within the city operates within an entire world

[1:21:26] So I'm going to put together a very specific

[1:21:30] Economic and historical presentation is that how we got to his point

[1:21:34] And this is the idea on my website too, by the way in the interest of full disclosure

[1:21:39] So please come up your ideas

[1:21:41] And how we go about resolving this this problem no ideas are going to be looked over. This is for you the residents

[1:21:47] They just cannot stress this amount enough

[1:21:50] from 7.30 to 8.15 or 8.30 you will talk amongst yourselves at the tables and you will

[1:21:56] home down your ideas into comprehensive lists and then from 8.15 or 8.30 to 9.00

[1:22:02] you're gonna provide that together in a plan and then you are going to work that

[1:22:07] plan. Again, there's always so much I can do as a council person. I'm going to

[1:22:11] this time hard workshop for you. So please, Wednesday July 27th, 6 p.m. VFW, pizza's on me.

[1:22:21] Please show up. You want to solve this problem? You want to see it sign up? Get involved.

[1:22:27] This right here is, is I must the entire parking? Get me not hanging on the pension funds.

[1:22:33] The reason I'm going this route is because for three months there's been no

[1:22:36] communication back to me. So that is what it is. I said it once. I won't say it again.

[1:22:40] I am what will not happen. This is a workshop. And I do mean a workshop. I'm going to work

[1:22:45] your heart. There's going to be no Q&A session. If you're coming to complain, don't

[1:22:51] bother. Let me say this again. If you're coming to complain, don't bother. It's not going

[1:22:56] to be a complaint session. This is a workshop. There will be no complaints. There's also

[1:23:01] no comment section. Not even for myself. Not even for anybody else. Presentation. You'll

[1:23:07] break down into your groups at the tables and then we combine it all together.

[1:23:11] A very specific workshop. Come prepared to eat, come prepared to work. And I will do

[1:23:16] a very best to promote this as much as I can. I hope I've said enough of it,

[1:23:20] so that everybody's taken notes on it.

[1:23:26] Forged street and out of drive. Hey, the

[1:23:28] palace convened store and the new aisle, aisle and repair shop there. Hey,

[1:23:35] white's not my color but it's not about what makes me happy. That corner is

[1:23:39] is simply right now.

[1:23:40] It's cleaned up that former $0.99 store that is now the repair shop.

[1:23:47] There's a brand new fence on the front that's all been,

[1:23:49] it's all been black topped over because that was

[1:23:52] this nasty back there.

[1:23:55] That's, it's smoking good.

[1:23:57] And I know the business owners that own the palace

[1:24:01] and a lot of money, a lot of time went into that

[1:24:04] and look, looks good.

[1:24:11] Yeah, DBA, go to the meetings, second, Thursday,

[1:24:14] of every month, five PM.

[1:24:18] They meet right here in the council chambers.

[1:24:20] The Dorsey building has been demoed.

[1:24:24] That's right next to the park restaurant.

[1:24:26] If you don't know what a Dorsey is,

[1:24:27] that's at Arlington, Ford Street.

[1:24:30] But there's a plan in place.

[1:24:32] A plan that's being developed to turn it into a common area.

[1:24:36] Please be informed of that.

[1:24:37] This is one of the biggest things that the DBA has done.

[1:24:41] please get involved in that please come to the meetings please please

[1:24:44] offer suggestions please help to DDA it's a very large project this is going to

[1:24:49] give us a common area in the downtown area and it shows how it's better than

[1:24:55] a big old empty space.

[1:24:59] Can you go to our study session I'll just get on board if this right now so

[1:25:03] everybody knows where I stand. If we have some kind of seminar for more

[1:25:08] information, I'm grateful for that. If we put out this information, I like the city manager

[1:25:13] recommends all this information out there regarding the water and sewer line protection program,

[1:25:18] that's great. I'm completely on board with going all the way in a city, getting involved in

[1:25:26] the partnership with this and being willing to municipality is willing to help you that, that is

[1:25:32] directly involved. For $14, $15 a month, it's pretty darn good coverage, so that's why

[1:25:39] I stand on there.

[1:25:42] And, oh, yeah, the clay content in the soil. I'm not a geologist either,

[1:25:47] but I do know what our clay content is like here in South-Eastor, Michigan. West-East

[1:25:52] side of the state, you don't have a lot of clay clay content. South-Eastor, Michigan,

[1:25:56] we have a lot more clay, just a facture drainage, a facture runoff, and what it really affects

[1:26:01] is the type of building materials that you should use.

[1:26:04] You have to use building materials that allow for elasticity

[1:26:08] so that you get the product, so that they can handle the heaving

[1:26:11] and the shrinking and the freezing and the fine

[1:26:14] of brutal Michigan runners and then the hot summers.

[1:26:17] That's the way it is when you have four seasons.

[1:26:20] We have a lot of clay content in our soil on the side of Michigan

[1:26:23] and on Lincoln Park.

[1:26:25] And if you actually, like I said before,

[1:26:27] some of the times now will go last five years,

[1:26:29] You just drive this arc that starts right along Riverview and arcs up towards Pontiac and we just happen to sit on top of a big vein of quite it's the way it is and it's one of the reasons why the roads get busted up so easy sometimes and it's a reality geology, geology.

[1:26:48] So, so, proper materials, proper aggregates, so that's on, so that's your roads, he's up and down.

[1:26:59] Okay, I'm done there.

[1:27:00] Ah, can barely talk.

[1:27:02] How's it going?

[1:27:03] Hold it for my comments the next time.

[1:27:04] Thank you.

[1:27:07] Already?

[1:27:09] First and foremost, information on lawsuits you get in the public is quickly as I receive them.

[1:27:19] to what I can receive and what I can update.

[1:27:23] And we do that through the course of the council meeting.

[1:27:26] There is another way that you can obtain information that's up to date.

[1:27:30] It's called the Freedom Information Request.

[1:27:34] I did miss an email.

[1:27:36] I did miss them from time to time.

[1:27:38] I apologize for that.

[1:27:40] But anonymous emails requesting updates, I don't really have faith to.

[1:27:46] I will respond for some general information.

[1:27:49] But if they want information on cases, go for the free of information.

[1:27:53] That's the way to get that, and that's the proper channels in which that is to be released.

[1:27:59] There's an opening weekend for Little League this week.

[1:28:03] I think Little League South, their program begins at about nine o'clock in the morning.

[1:28:08] They have a little get together at car school, and then they go down to the ball field where there is a first-pissed ceremony.

[1:28:17] and I think that the family of part commissioner Carter will be throwing out the first pitch there.

[1:28:27] So if you're interested and you want to see a bunch of smiling kids down there, go down there.

[1:28:32] And also on the same day for Little League North, which is over Kwant Park area,

[1:28:38] I think right around noon they're going to have a presentation of first pitch and

[1:28:43] and Evona Varga is going to be there at that particular time.

[1:28:49] One of our council members mentioned upcoming, not litigation, but legislation that's being

[1:28:56] looked at by the state senate or the state representatives.

[1:29:02] What everyone needs to realize is that one councilperson opinion or what they say is not

[1:29:11] not be hold on the entire city nor is it on the entire council.

[1:29:16] Everybody, individual council people have their own individual opinions, and that's

[1:29:22] where it goes from, and it is an opinion.

[1:29:25] I don't begin to process to know everything about gay lesbian rights, where the problems

[1:29:30] that those kids go through or the problems that the other children may face and it's what

[1:29:37] is really a confusing world.

[1:29:39] However, that is the difficult choices that our legislature must make.

[1:29:44] If you do have pertinent information to them, use it to the power that you have and you have the power of the vote.

[1:29:51] But I do not recommend hysteria going through when you try to work on this serious issue.

[1:29:57] and when you talk about what was being talked about.

[1:30:02] So, with that, let's be adults about this. If you have information, by all means, contact your state senate, contact your representative. Let's do this in the way that it was meant to be. Let your word be heard through your voting. With that, entertain a motion.

[1:30:23] Thank you, Chair.

[1:30:24] We'll go.

[1:30:26] Quick call.

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