[0:06] >> Commissioner Clark:

[0:07] all right.

[0:11] Everyone's here, we'll go

[0:11] ahead and get started this

[0:13] morning.

[0:17] Where -- will call the

[0:18] prehearing to order.

[0:24] >> good morning.

[0:24] By notice issued on JULY

[0:25] 22, 2026, this time and

[0:25] place was set for a

[0:26] prehearing conference in

[0:27] docket numbers

[0:35] 20260010-ei and 202600 --

[0:39] excuse me, 20260010-ei

[0:39] and 20260011-gu. The

[0:44] purpose of the

[0:45] pre-hearings are set out

[0:45] more fully in the notice.

[0:46] >> Commissioner Clark:

[0:46] all right.

[0:53] We'll take appearances.

[0:54] >> there are two dockets

[0:54] to address today.

[0:55] Staff suggest that all

[0:55] appearances be taken at

[0:56] once.

[0:58] All parties should enter

[1:01] their appearances and

[1:01] declare the dockets that

[1:02] they are appearing for.

[1:04] After the parties make

[1:05] appearances, staff will

[1:05] make hours.

[1:06] >> Commissioner Clark:

[1:06] all right.

[1:06] We'll to start down on

[1:17] this side and come down

[1:17] the line.

[1:17] >> thank you.

[1:18] Good morning, everyone.

[1:18] Joel baker appearing on

[1:19] behalf of florida power

[1:19] and light company on the

[1:22] 2026001 docket and I don't

[1:22] like to make an appearance

[1:23] for christopher right.

[1:23] Thank you.

[1:23] >> good morning,

[1:31] commissioner clark.

[1:31] 20260011-gu and I also

[1:40] like to enter appearances

[1:40] for stephanie cuello and

[1:41] dianne triplett.

[1:41] >> good morning.

[1:42] It appearing on behalf of

[1:42] tampa electric.

[1:43] I'd also like to enter

[1:44] appearances for jeffry

[1:46] wahlen and matthew jones.

[2:01] >> beth keating here for

[2:01] fpu see.

[2:02] >> good morning.

[2:02] I'd also like to make an

[2:03] appearance for jeffry

[2:06] wahlen and matt jones.

[2:07] >> welcome back, MR.

[2:07] Kelly.

[2:09] >> thank you,

[2:10] commissioner.

[2:15] Jeffry wahlen in the

[2:16] 20260010 docket on behalf

[2:16] of panama city florida and

[2:19] I also like to enter an

[2:19] appearance for nevin

[2:20] zimmerman.

[2:23] >> good morning, MR.

[2:24] Commissioner.

[2:24] This is austin watrous on

[2:25] behalf of the office of

[2:26] public counsel.

[2:34] Would like to enter an

[2:34] appearance on the 10 and

[2:34] 11 docket.

[2:35] I'd also like to enter an

[2:35] appearance or charles

[2:36] rehwinkel and walt

[2:36] trierweiler. Thank you.

[2:37] >> Commissioner Clark:

[2:38] all right.

[2:39] Is that everybody that's

[2:39] appearing this morning?

[2:41] >> almost.

[2:42] carlos marquez on behalf

[2:49] of commission staff.

[2:49] I will also enter an

[2:50] appearance for MR. Stiller

[2:50] and MISS Brown was.

[2:55] >> and mary ann helton

[3:00] is here as your advisor as

[3:09] well as adria harper as

[3:10] general counsel.

[3:10] >> Commissioner Clark:

[3:11] MISS Brown list, I'm

[3:13] sorry.

[3:15] >> MS. Brownless: the

[3:15] parties have agreed to

[3:17] stipulations for issues ia

[3:18] through nine do you,

[3:25] issues 10 and 11, and

[3:27] these stipulations are

[3:27] reflected in the

[3:29] comprehensive exhibit list

[3:29] exhibit 47 proposed

[3:29] stipulations.

[3:31] As we go through the draft

[3:37] order, other agreements by

[3:37] the parties regarding

[3:38] witnesses and testimony

[3:45] will be discussed.

[3:45] Fipug, nucor, and psc

[3:49] phosphate have been

[3:54] excused from today's

[3:54] prehearing.

[3:55] >> Commissioner Clark:

[3:56] all right.

[3:57] Are there any other

[3:57] preliminary matters?

[3:57] All right, great.

[3:58] Let's move through the

[3:58] prehearing orders.

[3:59] Are there any corrections

[4:06] or changes that need to be

[4:07] made, we'll go through the

[4:08] first ones pretty quick.

[4:09] Section one, case

[4:09] background.

[4:10] Section 2, conduct of

[4:10] proceedings.

[4:14] Section 3, jurisdiction.

[4:15] Section 4, procedures for

[4:19] handling confidential

[4:20] information.

[4:21] section 5, prefiled

[4:21] testimony and exhibits,

[4:22] witnesses.

[4:22] Staff?

[4:28] >> yes, sir.

[4:28] It is my understanding

[4:29] that the parties have

[4:29] agreed to admit all

[4:30] testimony into the record

[4:32] along with all prefiled

[4:33] exhibits and all staff

[4:33] exhibits identified on the

[4:34] comprehensive exhibit

[4:34] list.

[4:37] I would request at this

[4:37] time that the parties

[4:45] confirm that that is

[4:45] accurate.

[4:46] >> Commissioner Clark:

[4:46] all right.

[4:47] Are there any objections

[4:47] from the parties?

[4:48] >> no objections.

[4:48] >> Commissioner Clark: no

[4:52] objections from everyone.

[4:53] All right.

[4:53] Perfect.

[4:54] Let's move on to order of

[4:54] witnesses.

[4:54] Staff?

[5:01] >> if the parties and

[5:02] staff are willing to

[5:02] excuse witnesses, which I

[5:03] believe you've indicated

[5:03] you are, staff will

[5:04] confirm that each

[5:05] commissioner whether a --

[5:05] with each commissioner

[5:06] whether a together witness

[5:17] MAY be excused.

[5:17] If no commissioner has any

[5:18] questions for those

[5:18] witnesses, then the

[5:18] witnesses should be

[5:19] excused from the hearing

[5:19] with his or her testimony

[5:26] entered into the record as

[5:27] though read and their

[5:27] exhibits entered.

[5:28] >> Commissioner Clark:

[5:28] all right.

[5:29] Are there witnesses that

[5:29] can be excused?

[5:30] Do we already have that

[5:30] list or do we need to get

[5:31] that list now, MISS Brown

[5:31] list?

[5:32] >> MS. Brownless: we

[5:39] already know ased upon the

[5:39] agreement that the parties

[5:42] just expressed that all

[5:42] witnesses identified in

[5:45] this docket can be excused

[5:48] and we would request that

[5:50] -- well, we don't need to

[5:51] request for a witness

[5:55] summary since everybody

[5:55] has been excused, so

[5:56] that's sufficient, sir.

[5:57] >> Commissioner Clark:

[5:57] all right.

[5:58] Any objections?

[6:01] We're all in agreement?

[6:01] All right.

[6:03] Moved to basic positions.

[6:05] Do the parties have any

[6:12] changes to their basic

[6:13] positions?

[6:13] No?

[6:13] Allgood?

[6:13] All right.

[6:14] Go to issues and

[6:14] positions.

[6:14] Staff?

[6:17] >> issues and positions

[6:18] are included in the draft

[6:20] prehearing order.

[6:21] The draft prehearing order

[6:22] will be revised to reflect

[6:24] the agreed-upon

[6:26] stipulations that are

[6:27] contained in exhibit

[6:28] number 47.

[6:29] >> Commissioner Clark:

[6:30] all right.

[6:32] Any related matters from

[6:37] any of the parties?

[6:38] All right.

[6:38] Exhibit list.

[6:38] >> we've prepared a

[6:39] comprehensive exhibit list

[6:40] that includes all prefiled

[6:42] exhibits and also includes

[6:48] those exhibits staff

[6:49] wishes to include in the

[6:49] record.

[6:49] And that's been

[6:50] distributed to the parties

[6:53] is my understanding.

[6:53] >> Commissioner Clark:

[6:58] everyone in agreement?

[6:58] All right.

[6:59] Moved to proposed

[6:59] stipulations.

[7:01] >> this to be relations

[7:06] agreed to by the parties

[7:06] are reflected on cel

[7:07] exhibit number 47.

[7:09] Type ii stipulations have

[7:11] been agreed to for issues

[7:13] 1a through 9d, issues

[7:13] 10 and 11.

[7:14] For opc issues k through

[7:19] d, opc and the utilities

[7:23] have agreed to a type I

[7:23] stipulation.

[7:28] For opc issues b, panama

[7:29] city, fipug, pcs

[7:29] phosphate, and nucor

[7:37] have agreed to a type ii

[7:37] stipulation.

[7:37] For opc issue a, c, and

[7:40] d, panama city and fipug

[7:40] have agreed to a type ii

[7:41] stipulation.

[7:43] These stipulations address

[7:43] all issues identified in

[7:49] this docket.

[7:50] At this time, can all

[7:50] parties again confirm that

[7:51] to be the case?

[7:51] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:07] all right.

[8:07] I'll take your consensus.

[8:08] Looking down the road,

[8:08] everybody in agreement?

[8:09] >> yes.

[8:09] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:10] all parties are in

[8:10] agreement.

[8:10] all right.

[8:11] Moved to pending motions.

[8:11] >> there are no pending

[8:12] motions at this time.

[8:13] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:13] confidentiality motions?

[8:14] >> there are no pending

[8:14] confidentiality motions at

[8:14] this time.

[8:15] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:15] all right.

[8:16] Posthearing procedure.

[8:16] >> if the parties agree to

[8:17] waive posthearing briefs,

[8:20] then the commission MAY

[8:21] make a bench decision for

[8:21] this docket.

[8:22] If there are any issues to

[8:22] be briefed, staff

[8:24] recommends that

[8:25] posthearing briefs be no

[8:35] longer than 40 pages.

[8:37] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:37] all in agreement with

[8:37] that?

[8:38] No problem.

[8:38] All right.

[8:38] Moving into rulings.

[8:39] >> staff recommends that

[8:39] opening statements, if any

[8:40] are given, should not

[8:41] exceed three minutes per

[8:41] party.

[8:41] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:42] everybody in agreement?

[8:44] All right.

[8:44] Other matters.

[8:48] >> there are no further

[8:49] matters of which I'm

[8:49] aware, commissioner.

[8:50] >> Commissioner Clark:

[8:55] all right.

[8:56] Any other parties have any

[8:57] other items to address in

[8:57] the docket?

[8:57] Yes, MR. Kelly.

[9:00] >> based upon all the

[9:01] stipulations and agreement

[9:01] of the witnesses and

[9:02] waving briefs, the city

[9:05] would ask to be excused

[9:06] from the final hearing,

[9:06] commissioner.

[9:07] >> Commissioner Clark:

[9:11] absolutely.

[9:11] You're excused.

[9:12] Thank you.

[9:12] >> thank you.

[9:13] >> Commissioner Clark:

[9:13] anybody else want to be

[9:13] excused?

[9:20] [Laughter] Got some

[9:21] volunteers over here,

[9:21] right?

[9:21] All right.

[9:22] Any other matters in the

[9:22] docket?

[9:22] All right, let's move to

[9:26] the 11 docket.

[9:26] We'll start with

[9:27] preliminary matters.

[9:27] MR. Marquez.

[9:28] >> MR. Marquez:

[9:28] commissioner clark, there

[9:32] are no limitary matters

[9:32] staff is aware of that

[9:33] need to be addressed

[9:33] today.

[9:35] >> Commissioner Clark:

[9:36] let's go through the

[9:36] prehearing order.

[9:37] Case background.

[9:45] Conduct of proceedings.

[9:46] Jurisdiction.

[9:46] Procedure for handling

[9:47] confidential information.

[9:50] Prefiled testimony.

[9:51] Staff?

[9:51] >> staff recommends that

[9:55] the testimony summary of

[9:55] any unexcused witness

[9:58] should be limited to three

[9:59] minutes.

[9:59] >> Commissioner Clark:

[10:00] without objections, so

[10:05] ordered.

[10:05] All right.

[10:09] Next is order of

[10:09] witnesses.

[10:09] >> if the parties and

[10:10] staff are willing to

[10:12] excuse witnesses, staff

[10:13] will confirm with each

[10:13] commissioner whether a

[10:15] particular witness MAY be

[10:16] excused.

[10:20] If no commissioner has any

[10:20] questions for those

[10:21] witnesses, staff -- excuse

[10:31] me, then the witnesses

[10:32] >> Commissioner Clark:

[10:32] all right.

[10:34] Let's go through those and

[10:51] see if any can be excused.

[10:51] Parties?

[10:52] MS. Keating.

[10:52] >> I don't believe we have

[10:53] reached any stipulations

[10:53] at this time, but I hope

[10:54] we get to type ii

[10:54] stipulations in which case

[10:55] we would ask that our

[10:55] witnesses be excused.

[10:56] >> same for people's.

[10:57] Are not aware of a type ii

[11:00] stipulation at this time.

[11:01] However, if one is

[11:11] granted, we would request

[11:12] our witness.

[11:12] [Indiscernible]

[11:12] >> Commissioner Clark:

[11:13] very good.

[11:13] We will continue working

[11:14] in those directions then.

[11:14] Do any parties have any

[11:22] changes --

[11:27] >> opc and pgs provided

[11:28] staff with a certain

[11:29] position changes.

[11:29] Those changes are

[11:37] reflected in the ected in

[11:37] the draft prehearing order

[11:37] today.

[11:38] For issues in which a

[11:38] party has taken no

[11:39] position at this time.

[11:39] If the party does not take

[11:40] a position on position on

[11:41] those issues, their

[11:46] position will be s, their

[11:47] position will be changed

[11:47] to no position in the

[11:48] prehearing order.

[11:48] If a party fails to take a

[11:53] position on an an issue by

[11:53] this prehearing

[11:53] conference, then that

[11:54] party waives its

[11:54] opportunity to conduct

[11:55] cross-examination on the

[11:59] issue as well as tion on

[11:59] the issue as well as file

[12:00] a posthearing brief on

[12:00] that issue.

[12:01] >> Commissioner Clark:

[12:01] all right.

[12:02] Any of the parties have

[12:02] anything elseng else under

[12:02] issues?

[12:10] All ing else under issues?

[12:10] All right.

[12:11] Let's move to exhibit

[12:11] list.

[12:12] >> staff has prepared a

[12:13] comprehensive exhibit list

[12:13] that includes all prefiled

[12:14] exhibits and also includes

[12:15] those exhibits that stafff

[12:16] wishes to include in the

[12:16] record.

[12:17] Staff has conferred with

[12:22] each party and there are

[12:25] no objections to the

[12:26] current cel or to any of

[12:26] staff's exhibits being

[12:26] entered.

[12:27] >> Commissioner Clark:

[12:30] all right.

[12:30] Proposed stipulations?

[12:31] >> there are no

[12:31] stipulations at this time.

[12:32] Staff is finalizing its

[12:32] calculations.

[12:34] >> Commissioner Clark:

[12:35] pending matters.

[12:35] >> there are no pending

[12:46] motions, commissioner.

[12:47] >> Commissioner Clark:

[12:47] all right.

[12:48] Did not includes pending

[12:48] confidentiality motions as

[12:49] well?

[12:49] >> yes, sir.

[12:50] >> Commissioner Clark:

[12:50] all right.

[12:50] Posthearing briefs.

[12:51] >> if parties agree to

[12:51] waive posthearing briefs,

[12:52] then the commission MAY

[12:52] make a bench decision for

[12:53] this docket.

[12:53] If there any issues to be

[12:54] briefed, staff recommend

[12:56] that posthearing briefs be

[12:57] no longer than 40 pages.

[12:58] >> Commissioner Clark:

[13:01] any objections?

[13:02] So ordered.

[13:02] Move into rulings.

[13:03] >> staff commends that

[13:03] opening statements if any

[13:05] should not exceed three

[13:05] minutes per party.

[13:06] >> Commissioner Clark:

[13:07] any objections?

[13:08] All right.

[13:08] Other matters?

[13:16] >> there are no other

[13:16] matters to our knowledge,

Prehearing: 20260010-11

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