[0:19] I know what it is, but I wanted to see what it looked like.

[0:22] I think we 20 minutes open the package.

[0:29] It's what's on the mail the other day I got in 1989.

[0:34] New the West.

[0:35] I got in 1989.

[0:39] Oh, it's all right.

[0:42] You think you're like 18.

[0:44] I mean, hi, Rogers.

[0:46] 1899.

[0:48] Newspaper.

[0:49] All the things that lead you in.

[0:50] like I have three boys, they're older, right?

[0:53] And this is a little...

[0:55] Oh, you're in the house.

[0:57] It's like I...

[0:58] In the house of 1983, which was probably your class, wasn't that Alex?

[1:03] I didn't.

[1:06] Really?

[1:07] Yeah.

[1:07] You don't want me to graduate him?

[1:09] What year did you graduate?

[1:11] I just want you to come over there.

[1:13] Okay.

[1:15] So, we got the same...

[1:17] So, what was that?

[1:18] Yeah.

[1:49] And I'll call the meeting to order at 6.01, and I have a proof of posting here, and I'm going to ask our

[2:02] Councilor Lappier for a roll call for attendance, please.

[2:08] roll call number one for attendance, Councillor Smith.

[2:11] Present. Councillor Lillibready. Councillor Sullivan.

[2:15] Yeah. Councillor Lappier. Present. Councillor Wallsick.

[2:18] President, Haltsor Dehammer?

[2:20] Chair, Senator Lewis.

[2:21] So, Mr. President, both of you or Abour would ask you which stand.

[2:25] Lead stand, sir.

[2:28] Like a reasonable equals?

[2:31] I'd please stand on this.

[2:35] I think that's the broad way to fill those just stands on.

[2:39] I don't know.

[2:40] I think that's the broad way

[2:51] to do just.

[2:51] Okay, Council members, basic agenda overview.

[2:56] We have a couple of things that we're going to be omitting

[2:58] for different regions, one of which would be 10-1, and I think maybe one other.

[3:09] That is that. That will come back to the board in the form of a ordinance,

[3:16] the suggested ordinance. Perfect.

[3:19] And then it will need to follow the council rules of the siege or ordinance process.

[3:25] And that will be what we're targeting provided that we can get everything in the newspaper and all that good stuff for next week.

[3:34] So we're targeting the 22nd for that hearing.

[3:40] Oh, that proposal, I should say, it's the council in terms of hearing.

[3:45] Mr. Chairman, just a point of question,

[3:48] According to China, the council has to officially introduce that, would it be necessary for a council to introduce that tonight, so we can meet to the schedule that you just referred to.

[4:02] I mean, either way, because if we introduce it as an ordinance, it's really the council

[4:11] that says, all right.

[4:12] I think this is something that we want to move to an ordinance review, or if you want to suggest

[4:18] that we have a hearing on the ordinance, the council is not prohibiting doing so.

[4:28] Okay,

[4:30] so I was, if I could, if it's something that the administrative fields have proven

[4:36] for us to adopt, it needs to be handled directly, so we'd be proper mean for, as a council

[4:43] to, I'd like to introduce the resolution 2601 for the adoption of RSA-888 to be introduced

[4:53] has a new audience for a scheduled public hearing.

[4:57] That may be a long...

[5:06] This particular motion is that it is really to express your interest in moving forward with this, because if I can give you this, this is smidge a background on this, is that how meeting had approved RSA 4140, what allows us to go to auction on town on property.

[5:26] The provision of 8080 in Section 3 has a provision in which in your packet is on page 4,

[5:38] you know, says, as just as may require, if some of you have gone through some of the three

[5:47] options that we've had in hoax and we have some of those lots that are like, little lots

[5:56] that only, but property, that really only the property owner can, you know, would be interested

[6:04] in taking, you know, it's those small lots, and sometimes they can be big allots, too.

[6:10] But the vision of 41 40 allows us to go to auction on those, and hopefully we can get

[6:16] better.

[6:17] But it doesn't allow us to go to the property owner and say, you know what, I think this

[6:22] would be well suited if you were to, if you want this, you can purchase that and that's

[6:27] where and where justice may require saying that, you know, all the options are kind

[6:32] of spent on the 41-40, or say 41-40, this justice may require that provision under 83 allows

[6:40] us to have that direct contact. So if that's of interest of the council, the provision, and

[6:46] All these still have to come back to the council for permission approval.

[6:53] It's just that it would be another quote in the basket of items that the council could

[6:59] use in the appropriate occasion.

[7:04] So, Mr. Chairman, if I want to maybe re-state that motion, I'd like to introduce an

[7:08] ordinance for the adoption of RSA 8080 for to be considered as resolution 2601.

[7:18] Well, you're blindly introducing it at this point, I believe, because I don't think the actual war against attack.

[7:22] Actually, it's in the packet, so I think I met the, I think I met the requirement on that.

[7:30] All right, then, okay, so you have a motion.

[7:33] State of motion, anyone want to second that motion?

[7:41] The reason why I'm doing that if it's prudent to have this consider that the council

[7:46] we need to introduce it so we can go through the process of having the public caring and

[7:51] then allowing us to actually adopt it so that's why I'd like to introduce it.

[7:57] Okay, Council, we'll already do have any statement in the comments, but since you want to

[8:07] need? Is that why we're doing this?

[8:11] Yes, I mean, I thought we got most of the town on property that we wanted to get rid of.

[8:17] We did, but some of the parcels are still out there, and there's also a recent activity

[8:22] that took place last year, last May, with regard to the town taking parcels of land off

[8:29] It contains road that, obviously, there's some interest in that as well.

[8:37] And I believe that when we talk about this, if this does go to a public hearing and

[8:46] the zoning amendment hearing, that search will be there to answer the questions with regard

[8:54] to, are there interests out there?

[8:57] Yes, there are interests out there.

[8:58] is this a one that even without the more recent interest is an advantage to the town and

[9:05] our feeling?

[9:07] Yes.

[9:07] Thank you.

[9:09] Thank you, Chair.

[9:10] I just wanted to read that procedure.

[9:13] It's chapter 13 in our rules of procedure and it states prior to a council member introducing

[9:21] an ordinance.

[9:21] The council shall discuss the contents, which may include editorial revisions and textual

[9:26] modifications.

[9:26] and Nornin's needing revisions based on this discussion will be brought back to the council

[9:31] in a final format at their next scheduled meeting.

[9:34] The final version of an ordnance shall be introduced by one counselor for public hearing

[9:38] at the council's next scheduled meeting.

[9:41] So where we are in the process here, it seems to be that first step prior to a council member

[9:47] introducing an ordnance, we shall discuss the contents and make editorial or textual modifications.

[9:53] And I was referring to 3.6 on the chart. I didn't know there was corresponding language in our rules of procedure.

[10:00] Whatever the proper procedure is, that's what I wanted to, my intention was. So if it's the better way to do it, I will pull that back that motion and go according to our rules of procedure.

[10:15] So if it says prior to, oh sorry, if it says prior to, prior to, prior to the introduction,

[10:25] to have a discussion, I mean, not introduce it first.

[10:29] So then we would want legal counsel for the discussions.

[10:34] I would just say that the introduction in this case is specifically to put it on in a public hearing.

[10:39] So, your motion was to move it to a public hearing, Councilor and Sullivan?

[10:46] Yes, under 3.6 to introduce the order into which that would prompt the required notices in the hearing.

[10:52] Yes. So, according to our rules of procedure, we have the resolution 2601 here in our packet.

[11:02] that we could read that out loud and we could discuss this editorially, textually, make any

[11:09] recommended modifications.

[11:10] And if there is none, on our next meeting, introduce it for public hearing.

[11:18] Again, whatever the proper procedure was, certainly that's my intention.

[11:22] If you'd like, I will read it aloud for everyone.

[11:27] All right.

[11:27] So this is Resolution 2601, adoption of RSA 8080, Councillor Smith.

[11:33] Gentlemen,

[11:36] continue.

[11:37] Thank you.

[11:38] pursuant to RSA 8080, the town here by approves the authorization to dispose of tax-deeded properties by advertised sealed bid public auction or an alternative method as justice may require to the extent that such approval does not already exist.

[11:52] The town further approves and ratifies all prior transfers and conveyances of tax-deeded properties by advertised sealed bid public auction or an alternative method alternative method.

[12:01] Authorization to dispose of the town's tax-deeded properties by advertised sealed-sealed bid

[12:07] public auction or an alternative method as justice may require is hereby granted indefinitely until rescinded.

[12:14] The town council hereby adopts the provisions of RSA-8080.

[12:23] So what are we looking alternative method that kind of is kind of vague?

[12:27] It is vague.

[12:28] So do we have anything what could be a possible alternative method?

[12:37] Other than the one stated, I can't think of one of hand other than straight dating

[12:43] to somebody of people of a piece of property, but none comes the mind other than the

[12:50] seal bid, the auction, or as justice may require.

[12:53] There are three additional options listed in the RSA.

[12:58] Engage of real estate agent or broker to list and sell the property, including a sale

[13:01] condition, on the buyers obtaining development approvals.

[13:04] So, undeveloped parcels to a butters for consolidation into a joining loss for the purpose of affordable housing development, preserving open space or reducing development density, didn't we do that?

[13:17] See, convey the property to a former owner or to a third party for benefit of a former owner.

[13:21] Upon such reasonable terms as maybe agreed to in writing, including the authority of the municipality to retain a mortgage interest in the property,

[13:29] or to reimpose its tax lien, contingent upon and agreed payment schedule, which need not necessarily reflect any prior redemption amount.

[13:35] Any such agreement shall be recorded in the registry of deeds, this paragraph shall not be construed to obligate any municipality to make any such conveyance or agreement.

[13:42] It also states that this is, it can include these things that it also allows for our creativity

[13:49] and making up new methods.

[13:53] I like those.

[13:59] That's interesting.

[14:04] So, the action we take in thus far is paving the way if you will for the next step.

[14:10] And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[14:14] If there's any legal stumbling along the way, I would assume that at some point might

[14:19] I want to sound off on this one and come here to explain this.

[14:24] You'll be here.

[14:25] But also, keep in mind that, ultimately, before this can go forward,

[14:29] even if we go through the ordinance review process,

[14:33] Council doesn't have to move forward with it.

[14:35] I mean, we're moving forward the ordinance,

[14:37] like any ordinance that come to you for the board.

[14:40] We get an input.

[14:41] We have input based on information that you might have come across

[14:47] and preparation for the adoption of this or the decision point on this particular ordinance.

[14:54] So at the end of the day, once we have all the information, the council makes a decision.

[14:58] Is this an item that is good?

[15:28] The resolution is vague, but may be intentionally, because it's important that it's

[15:32] It's pointing us to the RSA.

[15:39] So we have a motion.

[15:40] And a motion is explained in a, it pays way for us for further action.

[15:46] So we have a motion.

[15:47] Wait a second.

[15:48] All those in favor of the motion please say aye.

[15:51] Aye.

[15:52] Any opposed?

[15:54] Okay.

[15:55] So I'll inform that.

[15:57] that will prepare the ordinance for our next meeting.

[16:03] I should say the next appropriate meeting if we get all the timing

[16:06] of notices and all that could start off then,

[16:08] it will be on the next appropriate meeting.

[16:12] Great to all agree.

[16:13] Good point.

[16:14] We'll move to chef and one.

[16:17] Tony, there's sure he's report.

[16:19] All right.

[16:20] Point of order.

[16:22] Did you skip public input?

[16:24] Or is it not yet?

[16:25] It's nine.

[16:25] Okay, I forgot we rearranged one of the time administrators report goes.

[16:30] It throws me off still to.

[16:34] So, I have one item that I've added to my report and I'll get to that after new hires.

[16:42] We have one new hire, Brian Coil, a fire department EMT who starts on April 13th.

[16:50] So five days from today and that is all I have for that.

[16:58] This one informed the council that I will be out in vacation next week from the 13th to the 17th.

[17:08] I guess it's called time off a good behavior and I've been behaving well.

[17:13] But the quantist pavilion in your hand out,

[17:19] you should have pictures of the groundbreaking ceremony

[17:23] that took place there.

[17:24] As you remember, the council did approve a contribution.

[17:28] I believe from the quantist of the $40,000

[17:32] towards this project.

[17:35] And this one has shared some pictures of those breaking

[17:38] ground.

[17:38] And those, I guess, those foundation items are going to be buried up to within a foot from

[17:48] the top, you know, in the columns are going to fit in on those brackets of the top.

[17:54] So all those are going to be buried pretty deep.

[17:58] And so that's going to be started.

[17:59] And I believe this weekend's going to be the large part of the project will be taking place.

[18:05] So then we have a bunch of volunteers for that.

[18:10] So I'm sure that photo is not holding your phone.

[18:18] There we are.

[18:18] All right, but the concept.

[18:19] So that's great.

[18:22] Although this is happening a couple of months from now,

[18:26] the police will be conducting training at Town Hall

[18:29] on Friday afternoon on June 5th and Friday afternoon, June 12th.

[18:35] So if anybody has to be stopping by on that on those

[18:40] afternoons, I just want to make sure it's clear that there

[18:44] will be some police training going on here and not to be

[18:49] surprised,

[18:52] and I will keep this on my T report.

[18:54] This has arrived up to the June 5th and June 12th dates.

[18:59] So again, this is a reminder that on those afternoons,

[19:02] Tom Hall will be utilized by those.

[19:06] And I believe they have reached out to some of the groups

[19:10] that use the gym and things of that sort.

[19:13] So, everybody is clear.

[19:17] Steve, the comfort dog made the union leader on March 26th,

[19:21] 2026, as you will know, that they

[19:23] come to the data prove the program and theirs.

[19:26] They're Steve, which may not have the name of our former chief

[19:32] a fleet of fire chief as was asked by Councillor Lampere but that is Steve and so far so

[19:39] good over there at the at the fire department. It's a great picture of our dog here and his

[19:46] trainer.

[19:50] I asked this at the last meeting and I'm hopefully conscious how to chance to think about it

[19:56] but CFP committee needs a Council representative.

[20:00] And our first meeting is next Wednesday, April 15th at 5 o'clock,

[20:08] which will be starting the CIP process, and capital

[20:11] process, and I'm sorry if we can use any acronym. That's what it stands for, capital improvements.

[20:17] And those are items, $50,000 or more, whether it's equipment, land, or vehicle falls into

[20:27] that our project, we've had a couple of conservation projects, the reconstructed and trails that

[20:37] are access that amount, that threshold now.

[20:40] So, anyways, if we can get a representative, that would be great for the committee, and

[20:47] again, the first meeting is next Wednesday.

[21:03] The town clerk in town for a long time.

[21:08] What was that?

[21:09] Well, worst case scenario.

[21:11] If I can make it, I'll try to make it.

[21:12] Can we like share it?

[21:14] I don't know.

[21:15] Of course you should.

[21:16] I don't want you doing it, but there are a handful of.

[21:19] Yeah.

[21:19] What the consequences?

[21:21] I just don't.

[21:22] I want suicide.

[21:24] Well, it's really funny.

[21:25] It's really for me.

[21:26] So from not paving or on a construction job,

[21:28] and I can get back here by that time, I'll try.

[21:31] Well, it's just early for me.

[21:33] So you can't make a rocket, sorry.

[21:36] But if you remember, I'm going to park the truck

[21:38] and try it.

[21:38] That's how we put the eye on driveway, everybody's staying.

[21:40] The budget committee, you know, I know.

[21:42] I think we had three people, as part of the budget committee,

[21:45] but we had representation there.

[21:47] So we, you know, and I had to think that input.

[21:49] Sure, it's important.

[21:52] I'll take it.

[21:53] I wasn't sure what I was doing last year, but I did.

[21:57] was part of it, and received was very good to fill in the gaps.

[22:03] So, I was following this, the undersea and in this,

[22:05] I won't be able to get every single one.

[22:06] I can do that again.

[22:10] Well, thank you.

[22:10] The Tom Clark is seeking to purchase signs,

[22:18] much like the council did, with regard to the banners and the

[22:27] election and deliberative session that took place and and and the town clerk would like to do that for the pet registration period between I think April 30th and June 30th I believe is that period of time and

[22:57] big rectangular sign that was great had one of our officers and the arcane 9 on it,

[23:08] reminder to renew by April 30th and that needed to be replaced.

[23:17] So, discussing it, having gone through the town election, signs being ordered, we got to

[23:27] talking, and I think it would be more, it would, one save some expense, and also be more

[23:35] beneficial to have multiple signs like we did, like those magnetic ones, so it's not just

[23:41] on gigantic sign in front of the town hall.

[23:44] I know the town clerk feels that she can find most of it,

[23:51] but I just wanted, I felt like that was up in the council

[23:53] should, just at their blessing too,

[23:56] and we can allow, you know, Crania and the town administrator

[24:01] to do that.

[24:04] Conscious Smith, so can we talk about what we do currently

[24:09] to inform the public because I believe we do a mailing, right?

[24:12] So, yes.

[24:14] And we were talking about that currently, I mean,

[24:18] I don't have the breakdowns,

[24:20] but hundreds of dollars are spent between the postcards,

[24:23] the reminders, and all of that.

[24:26] So one of the thoughts was if we could have gotten these signs out sooner,

[24:29] maybe could have not done the postcard.

[24:31] Oh, so one would, in a sense, negate the other, or, or, pervious.

[24:35] Yes, because then there's still another mailing

[24:37] And then the big expense comes if they haven't renewed and it goes to the civil forfeiture

[24:43] letters, which are upwards of $10 or more per meal.

[24:50] We do have, this was the old sign, it's not very good picture, but so we've just thought

[24:57] by trying to get that word out, it not just have it in one place.

[25:00] We could really try to cut from that. That's a huge expense, just on on it is animal renewals. And we know we're not taking anybody's animals, I mean, I would, but, you know, so really if we can get more registrations, get them done online, they can call her, they can do all of that. We could save some money in the end.

[25:23] I don't like to mention also that council or liberty mentioned this to me a couple of weeks ago and it was going to be my, I was going to get it on the agenda and I forgot or I didn't get it on the agenda so I have to take blame for that so this isn't, this isn't something that was a flash in the pants you've been inquiring about this and I know from deal with it in previous meetings, previous years I should say.

[25:51] the child runs up an interesting amount of money chasing down people to remind them of the responsibility

[25:58] and sometimes it's just they got out of the stuff going on if you get it.

[26:01] So if we put some signs out and it saves some mailing and saves a civil force for your process,

[26:08] then they will probably pay for themselves.

[26:10] Yeah.

[26:11] Councilor.

[26:13] Thank you.

[26:13] I was just thinking we got a wonderful offer from Merchants Auto to put information on there

[26:21] new sign as well. This might be a good candidate for that.

[26:28] I'm not saying no to the

[26:29] signs I'm saying yes and

[26:32] so I know a little bit. This was probably for the council last year

[26:44] and I want to say it was maybe like one of my very first meetings or maybe I was just watching

[26:48] at that point, it was last spring, and you can pass it around. So the big sign behind the

[26:56] little sign, at last year's expense was just over $2,000. But if you see it, it's an awkward

[27:04] size, so it's a special order. It was full photo.

[27:10] And again, it was one sign out front, and

[27:13] I had said, I drove by, and I thought, oh, what a cute dog. I didn't remember to, you

[27:18] just you don't. And so,

[27:23] at the time, counselor, nine, had offered to make a sign and contribute

[27:29] it, which is the sign in front, which looks awesome. But we still need to figure out how

[27:34] to hang it, and that's where it got to. If we could do similar to the banners in the magnet

[27:41] ones, that we could get it out across the town much better.

[27:45] I do, we could use here year, and I'd like to see the cost a lot less than $2,000.

[27:50] Well, and it's going to do what's happening any good.

[27:53] Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt.

[27:55] What did the town election signs come in at?

[27:59] That was kind of my guideline, and again, town park thinks she can find some savings in the budget.

[28:10] So, see if I could get that 300 dollar mark for some reason, that's what brings, I don't

[28:15] know, we saw an exact.

[28:16] And Mr. Chairman, if it's under the purview of the clerk, and it's within the budget, then the clerk can certainly do what they need to, to hurt, to expedite this process that she's authority, as authority was.

[28:30] So I don't have any problem, probably, but I can even imagine.

[28:33] You brought it up for our discussion, but if it's under the clerks authority, and it's within her budget, then let her do what they need to do.

[28:44] So, you know, I definitely agree with what Councilor Sullivan said, so I think, you know, getting these out there is a great idea. I think a similar scenario that what we just did is applicable.

[28:58] I do maybe want to reference it. I don't think our signs are magnetized. I think they use magnets to hold them.

[29:05] That's fine. I just want to clarify that so that we just have a basic idea.

[29:08] Yeah, but I like it. I think it's a good way for people to see stuff driving on the road

[29:14] Trash trucks the trash truck goes by everybody's house

[29:22] Thank you. I was just gonna say I that I also grew with councilor Sullivan

[29:26] I don't even think we need a motion

[29:27] It's not like the minute I have two people agreeing with me. Yeah, you should

[29:31] We're gonna highlight it start it. I'll be looking for where I

[29:35] Apologize for that I don't even think we need a motion because it's not like we make a motion

[29:39] and she sends up registered mail.

[29:41] This is still within her budget within her purview.

[29:43] If she was asking us for money from somewhere else,

[29:45] then I see that, but I think it should.

[29:48] Right, where'd it go?

[29:50] Right, anyone else, can you have a question with that?

[29:53] I can't find the cost, they.

[29:56] For some reason I thought it was just above a thousand.

[30:00] I thought I was trying to look up the email that I got from Gerald, and I can't find that particular one. I think she gave me a quote based on the three items, one of which was a local one, the U.S. suggested a consistent, and the other two was off or outside of town. Actually, no, there's two end town, one outside town.

[30:24] But if it's three items, like three intervals of peace, that's about what they're at.

[30:29] Yeah, that's what about, yeah.

[30:31] So if she's going to go forward with that, if she finds out, it's,

[30:35] everybody is not going to support it.

[30:37] And maybe it can come back to us quickly.

[30:39] It has to be quickly the best times of the essence, obviously.

[30:42] So.

[30:43] Thank you.

[30:45] Contour, actually.

[30:48] That is what I had for items other than the police chief contract.

[30:59] I would recommend that we go in and on public first discuss the contract and whatever the decision is made and then we will come out to public session to report our decision.

[31:17] And upcoming meetings, we have the 13th, the Conservation Commission, the 15th, Economic Development and Advisory Committee at 430,

[31:27] Conservation Commission at 430, Economic Development Advisory Committee at 430, on the 15th, 16th,

[31:34] Supervisor, the checklist at four,

[31:37] planning board meeting on April 20th at six,

[31:39] and April 22nd, is our next council meeting.

[31:44] And that's all I have for you.

[31:47] Mr. Chair.

[31:47] Thank you, Andre.

[31:48] Next item of business counselors is number nine.

[31:51] Public input.

[31:53] Is there anyone in the audience who would like to

[31:57] participate in public input?

[32:02] Okay, not being a case.

[32:04] The answers will be skipping over 10-1 this evening that was we talked, we discussed that and we've got a different path for that at just point.

[32:12] So our next item is Heritage Commission Annual Update.

[32:17] And

[32:19] we've been making that presentation.

[32:21] The chair for its Tony is the actor.

[32:23] Hi Tony.

[32:24] Okay Tony, have a come on up and have a seat.

[32:38] Good evening.

[32:42] So the Heritage Commission, we've been pretty busy since the,

[32:48] Well, this past fiscal year, we remain actively engaged in historic preservation, documentation

[32:55] and community education efforts throughout the town.

[32:58] The commission's work has focused on balancing responsible development with the preservation

[33:03] of hoaxed historical identity.

[33:05] One of the commission's notable efforts involved the review of the property at 267, London

[33:12] Dairy Turnpike, formerly known as the O'Brien Farmhouse.

[33:18] Following a public hearing and detailed historical research that commissioned a term in the

[33:23] structure to be historically significant, that property has not been demolished at this

[33:28] time.

[33:29] However, we did come to an agreement with them on demolition and their agreed to put a historical

[33:36] sign on the property which has been documented on the plans with the planning board, which

[33:43] been great to see that the Heritage Commission has been able to work with the planning board

[33:48] in terms of different site approvals and things, which is the first time in my time being on

[33:54] the Heritage Commission that we've been able to work with the planning board and things like that,

[33:57] so it's been good.

[34:01] We've also continued to advance our historical marker program across town,

[34:06] where it has progress on multiple projects including Lambert's Park, the Ford Morrissey House

[34:11] over at Southern New Hampshire University and the Ordway Cemetery over on Kate Road off of

[34:18] Hackett Hill. With ongoing research, design and coordination efforts to ensure historical

[34:24] accuracy and meaningful public presentation. Another major ongoing initiative is the development

[34:30] of the new history book that we've been working on for the last couple of years. This is encompassing

[34:37] period from 1968 until 2026. Over this period, the Commission has worked closely with its

[34:45] contracted researcher, Melissa Moore, who is a resident of Loudon, and she's been working diligently

[34:50] with us on getting oral histories, doing interviews with all different groups, businesses,

[34:56] is people in town and developing chat.

[35:00] After a structure in themes, the project has recently moved into design discussions, including cover concepts, photography, and distribution planning.

[35:09] The commission is targeting completion of the manuscript by early 2027 with printed copies anticipated to be available to the public by June of 2027.

[35:18] So, coming up and that's going to be, it's going to be a really good book, so I'm very

[35:25] much looking forward to that and having people in town learn about our history because it's

[35:30] it's pretty cool. The commission also continued preliminary work on establishing a neighborhood

[35:37] heritage district within the village area along Merimax street, the side streets and Main Street.

[35:43] In coordination with the town planner efforts have focused on defining district boundaries,

[35:49] exploring zoning strategies, and identifying tools such as RSA-79E to support preservation

[35:56] and reinvestment in our historic village area.

[36:00] Additional initiatives during this period included reviewing potential improvements to the

[36:05] demolition permit process, beginning development of a townwide historical property database,

[36:11] and continuing research efforts to support future preservation decisions.

[36:17] The Commission remain engaged with the community through public programming and events.

[36:22] This included participation in Old Home Day with a Heritage Trolley tour,

[36:25] featuring recorded historical narration, which was themed last year around the 1930s,

[36:32] which focused on the great flood of 36 and the village.

[36:39] Let's see, and we also supported educational programming at the Head School with different local

[36:47] organizations and groups.

[36:49] If anyone is not familiar with that, the Head School is a one room brick school house located

[36:54] off Pleasant Street, and that is town owned but was restored through the Heritage Commission

[37:00] in the early 2010s by Kathy Northrop.

[37:04] Um, so that's been a good program.

[37:08] Um, uh, a Vicki Dase R&A's in charge of that.

[37:10] And, uh, they've been struggling with getting volunteers to keep that historical programming going for the children in town.

[37:17] Um, the third graders have been doing field trips there for many, many years.

[37:21] Um, but they, um, the volunteers with that program are aging and they're, um, kind of aging out of the program.

[37:28] Um, so they've been working hard to try and find new people and they actually have recruited three new people.

[37:33] So that's been, that's been good.

[37:38] Also, we've been focus on expanding our historical storyboard program within the Huxit Village area.

[37:44] Plans are underway for the Alfred J. Lambert Riverside Park storyboards to be developed.

[37:50] Well, they already developed, but to have them be installed with a target completion.

[37:54] Hopefully being installed may of this year would be the goal.

[37:58] A formal unveiling and park rededication is anticipated for September in coordination with Old

[38:05] Home Day. In addition, the commission aims to develop between three and six new storyboard

[38:10] installations by the end of the year. This continued expansion is intended to enhance quality

[38:16] of life for residents by creating accessible and engaging opportunities to learn about our history.

[38:21] And we're also looking for recruitment on the Heritage Commission with my new appointment or

[38:28] election to the town council coming up in June or July.

[38:33] I will no longer be able to service chairperson on the commission so we're actively looking

[38:38] for people to join the commission so we're able to continue doing the work which later on

[38:45] in the agenda today.

[38:46] You'll see Carrie Hyde is going to be appointed on the commission which we're very excited

[38:51] about. So recruitment is working. And that's my update for the council. Any questions?

[38:58] Any questions for any questions for Chairman?

[39:02] I'm just going to comment the the history book. The name will be really soon. I think there.

[39:10] That's going to be a fantastic addition.

[39:12] a co-companying piece of the child's hotie book, it's going to be a wonderful piece in

[39:18] the author is fantastic and the Heritage Commission has been working with her and you'll

[39:24] be in very impressed. So that's a good thing. And I'm very excited about the lambage

[39:29] park and where we cut, took care of some of those issues. I think we're there at the

[39:35] point, so again, it benefits to that in the other thing which is an offshoot, which

[39:42] separate was the school moms, the head school society, which is under the Heritage Commission.

[39:49] That's doing well and I'm glad the chair mentioned the three additional school moms

[39:54] as they call them. I know they do the third graders. I know some girl scout groups are coming in.

[40:00] And I think there's maybe one or two, I'm hearing about maybe some adult groups coming in, but that's a wonderful recreation of like 1840s is the recreation of that one whom schoolhouse, which was actually built on 1838.

[40:16] So let's face that the school district does keep their buildings that long, they do some repair once in a while, but we do.

[40:23] So that's fantastic.

[40:24] So Kudos to the chair and the other committee members, and special thanks to everyone else

[40:30] who works on that.

[40:31] And some other members who have contributed, Abby Malonis, who's not serving us, but has

[40:37] the adjunct in, of course, Ms. Vicki, that the chair referred to.

[40:42] So Kudos to the Heritage Commission.

[40:44] So that's all I have to say.

[40:46] Thank you.

[40:46] Thank you, Tony.

[40:47] Welcome.

[40:49] Appreciate it.

[40:49] Tony, thank you.

[40:53] Okay, Councillor, we have another scheduled appointment this evening and Mr. Ray Bonny is here to represent and present the Recycle and Transfer Advisory Committee and update. Mr. Bonny, welcome. Good to have you here.

[41:11] Still early.

[41:15] So, this is just, I'm just here with our list and you can answer many questions afterwards you might have.

[41:25] So the staffing update, they are fully staffed, I want to say it's the first time in at least five or six years.

[41:31] I'm not quite sure, but I'm kind of sure.

[41:36] And Jim Levine, he was promoted to a heavy equipment operator.

[41:40] I'm sorry, he has promoted from a heavy equipment operator to assistant crew chief.

[41:46] And they got two new hires.

[41:50] Robert Frattis, he's an equipment operator and Nick Tanadi, trash truck driver.

[41:58] Got a facility update. Unfortunately, they didn't get the money, they approved for the new building.

[42:05] They appeared to have been misinformation, shared with residents regarding the tax impact.

[42:10] This is not accurate, delaying the project ultimately results in higher costs in the future.

[42:16] We got rid of some old iron. They sold a 2,000 and 15 international trash truck off of

[42:25] guv deals for 23,000. I'm just actually a really good price. And they sold a 1990

[42:33] bill for $4,800. The scrap price and that was only 600. So they did very well.

[42:43] They have

[42:43] Newbale, they got two grants.

[42:46] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no, they missed the grant.

[42:49] A newbale was purchased in December 2025.

[42:52] They received a $5,000 grant from New Hampshire,

[42:57] recycles on behalf of New Hampshire, the beautiful.

[43:02] On the bailer, if you haven't seen it, it's pretty cool.

[43:08] Right now, the town is paying $98.10 a ton to dump trash.

[43:14] It'll increase to 103 dollars even effective July 1st of this year and effective January 1st.

[43:25] January 1st, 2026 will implement it at $3.50 surcharge, which I would love to talk to you about after.

[43:34] For furniture, we pay $109 a ton, and waste management surcharge is based on total weight.

[43:49] So the demolition demo was $119 per ton, electronics, it depends on what type it is,

[43:59] but it ranges from 7 cents to 20 cents a pound.

[44:03] And free on, it's $8 per unit, and they've removed the free on, the metal goes into the metal pile.

[44:12] Batteries, lithium ion batteries, a doll of 50 a pound, nickel-codium dry, a 78 cents a pound,

[44:22] and this, trying to give the residents trying to teach them the difference between the two batteries.

[44:31] cardboard is $40 a ton. Metal is $140 a ton. Mixed glass is $50 for a ton, but we paid

[44:43] to get rid of that. We're paying to get rid of cardboard? No, no. Only the mixed glass.

[44:49] cardboard we get $40 a ton. That's what they pay us, $40 a ton. It was way higher,

[44:55] But it's going down.

[45:00] Plastic, they are currently seeking a vendor. The market conditions make plastic difficult to move, and the current rate for number one, seven bills is a quarter of a cent.

[45:12] So, for every four pounds, it's a penny.

[45:18] And the solar project's been approved, and the project is expected to begin in the early spring.

[45:25] And it's not in here, but we get a few surcharge now when they come to pick up anything

[45:30] like the metal, someone comes and picks it up, they pack a few surcharge on.

[45:37] And they don't pick up the plastic enough that we receive the last few surcharge.

[45:45] That's all I got on this list.

[45:46] If you guys have any questions, but I do have something else to talk to you about.

[45:50] We'll take questions.

[45:50] We'll give you some questions first and you can get them into your second one if you'd like

[45:54] or a cell of it.

[45:56] And I just a quick question.

[45:57] You said the cost to transfer is going up from

[46:02] 98 to 103.

[46:04] So that's five dollars.

[46:05] Yes.

[46:05] What is the amount that we need to transfer?

[46:10] Because that would lead to the administrative coming up

[46:14] with another five dollars times.

[46:16] I believe it's already into the system.

[46:20] But last year, we did a total of 5,038 tons

[46:23] between trash and going to the landfill in Rochester so that 5,000 tons times 5 is 25 grand

[46:32] is the additional that we would have to come up with with the only with the default budget because

[46:37] that's not calculated the default budget is correct

[46:40] if that is more is that a surcharge so that's not the surcharge it's not going to get too late

[46:45] okay this is we have the we sign a contract I believe for 10 years so it's all so we don't

[46:53] We're going to pay for the next 10 years.

[46:56] So the additional $5 per tonne needs to be covered somehow, which would

[47:02] res out in the operating budget, which is similar with the file.

[47:05] Okay.

[47:05] So that's additional cost.

[47:08] No, it should already be in the July first.

[47:10] It should already take effect for July.

[47:12] It's a part of the tipping fee contract.

[47:14] Yes.

[47:14] This is here.

[47:15] What?

[47:16] Okay.

[47:16] Yes.

[47:17] And therefore, it's in the contract.

[47:19] It's for God. Okay, so it's a contracted obligation, so that is calculated. Yeah, the pump. Okay, thank you for that clarification

[47:27] I was thinking something else. So any other constant how any court. I relieved on that then

[47:34] Yeah, so

[47:36] What kind of times are we recycling

[47:39] Excuse me. What kind of tonnage are we recycling?

[47:46] I know we do very good with the cans. We do super with the cardboard.

[47:53] They didn't pack that for me.

[47:56] Okay, that's all because my question is that's again,

[47:59] that's what I want to see if we should start recycling cardboard again

[48:02] if we should start picking it up.

[48:04] That was something I've been asking about again and again,

[48:07] because I know there's a lot of cardboard at my house with Amazon.

[48:10] There's a ton of cardboard.

[48:11] Yeah, they made great fire pit stylist, but then you got to re-educate the people.

[48:16] Yeah. As it is, they do great up there. All that cardboard is delivered from

[48:21] an Amazon delivers all their cardboard there. We would never refuse it because we get paid to

[48:26] we get paid for it. Right. So now with the new valor, it would be even quicker. You got to see that thing.

[48:34] It's amazing. Yeah. If you knew what the old one was like, you got from a 1990 or 2025?

[48:41] It's like a brand new wife, dude.

[48:46] I don't have to go check it out.

[48:48] I don't have to go check it out.

[48:48] It's not expensive.

[48:50] It's probably cheaper than a new wife.

[48:53] Thirty-six years of innovation, sure, it's a little better.

[48:59] All right.

[48:59] So do you see any improvements that we can make down there as far as to help with the recycling

[49:04] and then in the trash?

[49:06] if we could, the cod was the thing, and if we could, plastic would be, I think it was Sean

[49:16] told me, the money for, if we could only separate milk jugs and milk jugs only, that's considered

[49:23] number one, like steel. And it's a crazy price how much that is worth the recycle. But we don't have

[49:31] kind of space. Did you just put milk jugs aside? Milk jugs in one gallon?

[49:38] You know the other question you said with the steel is we're getting a

[49:42] surcharge to pick up the steel. I get a few surcharge. I thought we got a new

[49:46] trailer. I thought we could. No, no, no.

[49:52] We got windfield comes in down and

[49:54] takes it. When you go up to the landfill after the transfer of station you dump

[49:59] your metal.

[50:00] On to the right, that goes in the dump stop. And windfield comes and takes it, and they pay us for it.

[50:05] I see. What are they paying a ton?

[50:11] 140 a ton.

[50:13] 140 a ton. But they have a fuel search.

[50:15] They have a fuel search.

[50:16] We can't deliver it with our trail.

[50:20] Well, that windfields in Massachusetts. I don't know if we can drive our tractors in the Massachusetts.

[50:26] Good question.

[50:26] I don't know. Sometimes, that's interesting. Government is

[50:32] I don't know how that's the point. You're telling the necessary, a

[50:34] guy for drives from Massachusetts for the, what a piece of equipment comes out

[50:38] here. Take scrap steel. It's coming out of Lawrence Maths. And still

[50:43] there's 160 dollars a time. Hey, you're not 140.

[50:48] So that becomes 135 or because of the search urge or I don't know what I

[50:55] They don't know if it's a flat rate, sometimes it's usually a flat rate on a deal like

[50:59] that.

[51:00] If it's by the pound, sometimes by the pound, or by the time it might be added into it.

[51:07] So, yeah, I would think it was almost a flat rate for fuel.

[51:11] Maybe not.

[51:12] But the glass is my pet peeve.

[51:15] I mean, we're the host town.

[51:16] We shouldn't be paying anything in my personal opinion, but that's just an opinion.

[51:21] Right?

[51:22] We're the host town.

[51:23] Well, City of Hable, Mass don't pay a penny to get rid of their garbage because they host a mass brewing in their town

[51:30] They've argued Martin. Yes, I'm from people

[51:35] Where there for five years best job

[51:39] Any other questions before we're I'm going to

[51:46] I happened to take a couple notes from the meeting of the day. Thank you

[51:51] It's good to see the other night.

[51:53] We do actually recycle at least from October 1st, 2024,

[51:58] to September 30th, 2025.

[52:00] It was 35,000 pounds of plastic.

[52:07] So, 35,000 pounds of plastic.

[52:09] That's 17 to the half tons.

[52:11] Which you've waited to 1,814 gallons of gas allegedly.

[52:19] I think we discussed the fact that milk jugs are considered the number one plastic, all the

[52:29] plastics they have a little number inside them so the premium one is number one and the

[52:34] two through seven is basically not profitable at all. That's the downside and I think I could

[52:42] wrong, but I think that the surcharges are 350 per ton.

[52:48] That's on trash.

[52:50] Now I'm going to get to that.

[52:52] That's like a thorn in my side at the moment.

[52:54] Right.

[52:55] That was it.

[52:55] Thank you.

[52:56] All right.

[52:57] I had a note.

[52:59] OK.

[53:00] I want to say in October, November, I'm on my Google feed of 5 AM.

[53:06] And public radio posts, this article, how the state of New Hampshire is going to charge

[53:10] three dollars and fifty cents per ton of any trash going into a landfill or

[53:15] incinerator. Okay,

[53:20] I call Sean at seven o'clock he does nothing knows nothing

[53:23] about it. I give him the website and he's in awe. At twelve o'clock he calls me

[53:30] laughing the state of the Hampshire finally sent the name you'll see on this is

[53:34] what they're going to do. So this is the deal. I'm only using an even number. This

[53:38] This number is just the number I'm putting out.

[53:42] So if every 1,000 ton per quarter,

[53:45] we send the state $3,500.

[53:48] So let's say it's $100 a ton.

[53:52] So it's a $10,000 for $100,000, right?

[53:58] For 10,000 ton, yes, $100,000.

[54:01] So we send wheel operator a check for $100,000

[54:05] and plus another check for $3,500.

[54:11] But now, we'll abrader must have to send that 3500 to the state in New Hampshire and this is all brand new.

[54:17] They're going to are right now. This is the first time we're doing it. April 1st was the end of the very first quarter.

[54:24] So there's a, according to Sean, there's a form we're going to fill out. So we'll abrader is going to send the public works gets to build from what I understand.

[54:34] They'll go over the way tickets, and I don't know how they pay wheelibrator, whether it's

[54:38] Chuck or ACH, I don't have no idea how bills are paid, and then wheelibrator will send

[54:43] the tax money to the state in New Hampshire, and as long as we got all our ducks in a row,

[54:51] I'm guessing it's going to be Sean or didn't, Christine, that will fill out a form to

[54:57] send to the state to get our reimbursement.

[55:00] And it's only from municipalities that in the state of New Hampshire, they're going to get the money back, because they want the money from out of state and they want to keep it.

[55:09] Right, that's right.

[55:09] So it's an ingenious idea. If you were I tried that, they would be called embezzlement. You think about this.

[55:15] There was.

[55:16] And so anyways, long story short is, if you've been in business, I wasn't business for 24 years.

[55:23] In my vendor number, my vendor number never changed where I did business at any company.

[55:29] So maybe we can talk to the state where some hooks it and they can talk to someone in

[55:36] conquered.

[55:37] There's no, there's no, I can't understand why when they punch in the hooks of

[55:42] vendor number, why it wouldn't come up exempt.

[55:46] That's less paperwork for three different parties.

[55:50] You guys understand what I'm saying?

[55:53] I mean, what they say when you program a computer keep it simple, the state's going to make millions, think about this.

[56:02] Now, here's another thing. So they get out money. How quick do we get it back? I don't know, but how about the interest on that money?

[56:12] So Sean give me this thing last year, we between

[56:16] realibrator in the landfill, we did 5,038.10 tons.

[56:21] So at 350 per ton, that would have been 17,633 tons and 35 cents.

[56:27] We don't lose that money, but we eventually get it back,

[56:30] but I don't know how quick and I know we're on a type budget.

[56:35] So even at 3,500 or quarter.

[56:45] So you were telling your story and I was ashamed of myself to say, I could have sworn this was an out-of-state gig.

[56:52] No, I know that, but you alluded to it like last.

[56:55] So I'm like, well, maybe I totally forgot.

[56:57] No, because we did talk about it at a meeting.

[56:59] So, but I'm glad it stayed the same.

[57:02] Where is the deal?

[57:03] So they're not penalizing that they're charging extra for out-of-state.

[57:07] Don't think.

[57:08] I believe in New Hampshire, I definitely know this is a big landfill in Bethlehem.

[57:12] This is Rod Chester and is the incinerator in Boschwood.

[57:16] Those are the three that I know of. I'm sure there's more.

[57:19] You know, they just, I can understand keeping the out of state trash, but I don't think

[57:24] we should be putting up front and money.

[57:27] I could be wrong.

[57:33] Maybe we're trying to write it to our contact reps and the account hopes it in that.

[57:40] Is it finalized or is it still in it?

[57:42] Oh, yes, because I went and found a line.

[57:45] Sean showed me a bill and each bill will say,

[57:48] like, say, we brought in 10 ton.

[57:50] At 100, we'll just, I'm using 100 calls even number.

[57:52] So the bill would be 1,000.

[57:54] And then a $35 surcharge for the call to tax.

[57:57] It's a line item right on the bill.

[58:02] You, so.

[58:03] OK.

[58:04] Thank you, I'd like to take the opportunity

[58:09] to listen to the advice of the chair of the recycling

[58:12] and transfer advisory boards so that we send a letter to our state reps, I'm not sure which

[58:19] state reps may be all of them.

[58:21] Look, St. Must have some, right? This is affecting every single column, a state in New Hampshire

[58:25] that dumps in a New Hampshire facility.

[58:28] I think it makes sense.

[58:31] If we know the Senate bill, House bill, that's fine.

[58:36] No, it is a, again, I don't have that paper.

[58:41] It actually just a group from the Department of Environmental Services.

[58:47] I want to say that's what it was.

[58:48] I don't have that paper in front of you, but he got it in the packet at the other night with us.

[58:53] But I do not have that with me, Andre.

[58:58] It's an ingenious idea.

[58:59] I'd like to get 350 a ton.

[59:04] Is this the searcher I drove over to?

[59:06] Saudi was?

[59:07] No, I have that.

[59:08] But there was another moment of list of folks involved in it.

[59:12] It looks like it was a new fee established in the state budget that went into effect July 1st.

[59:18] In the 2025?

[59:20] And the fee started on January 1st of this year.

[59:26] But he has a thing they never notified anyone till December.

[59:29] It's classic.

[59:31] Under the new law municipalities will be able to request quarterly reimbursement of these surcharge repayments upon some middle of the invoices in proof of payment.

[59:39] And that's a lot of money via interest potential.

[59:44] I remember when you talked about it.

[59:47] So, counselors, another option we would have available to us as a counselor.

[59:51] We can, we can motion to request it to turn a administrator or his appropriate staff.

[59:57] Make a contact our state representative.

[1:00:01] And what's in the middle of our opinion is, and that we'd like to, perhaps, hopefully, become exempt, or communities, be exempt from paying the money if it's going to get reimbursed.

[1:00:12] I think so. I want to make that. I motion, shimm it with that.

[1:00:15] I don't know if we could turn it to a constitution.

[1:00:17] So I would did all that, but I would say that we could probably talk to some of our neighboring towns.

[1:00:22] And I think one voice versus five voices or six voices, could be advantageous, but if we have the same representation.

[1:00:30] Let's check thought.

[1:00:32] So we could have our time administrative.

[1:00:35] Do you want to check into this?

[1:00:37] Yeah, I mean it's motion.

[1:00:40] We're checking that.

[1:00:41] So what's your motion?

[1:00:42] Time administrative.

[1:00:43] OK.

[1:00:44] Yes.

[1:00:44] Well, actually, I just did what the chair said.

[1:00:47] And I wanted to add that potentially asking neighboring towns,

[1:00:51] what their thought is.

[1:00:52] And are they on board?

[1:00:53] I think five voices is better than one.

[1:00:58] So, Council can.

[1:01:00] Tell me in the first minute.

[1:01:00] All second.

[1:01:01] I'll.

[1:01:03] the first minute.

[1:01:04] Also, now I serve the slide.

[1:01:07] You see the council?

[1:01:14] You.

[1:01:17] Thirty.

[1:01:17] One would have your.

[1:01:21] one would have your.

[1:01:23] You have that.

[1:01:25] Conference of Smith and that wasn't second yet.

[1:01:28] Is anyone want a second now?

[1:01:29] Council of dual-hame.

[1:01:31] So for the questions or comments regarding that initiative, all those in favour of?

[1:01:37] We say aye.

[1:01:40] And any opposed?

[1:01:42] Okay.

[1:01:43] Mr. Bonnie.

[1:01:44] Thank you.

[1:01:44] If you have anything else, thank you for coming in.

[1:01:46] Hold on, sir.

[1:01:48] Please, please.

[1:01:49] So, right.

[1:01:50] I was on your committee for a while. I've missed multiple meetings. One was like a thanksgiving and then there was another one that you got a little tough. So I did reach out to find out how I can

[1:02:03] But I'd rather resign from because I didn't want to not represent and quickly I did ask

[1:02:11] Alex sitting next to me

[1:02:14] Councilor Walsh, like if since I knew that he had participated in the past, if that was

[1:02:19] something he would do and he said he would. So I would just like to formally say that

[1:02:23] and I do want to apologize that I did not make that I think I missed like the last four.

[1:02:28] We've only had two with the last four because we didn't have enough people.

[1:02:32] Oh, I did not. But again, some of that I was getting notified late, but it just hit

[1:02:37] conflict and it just worked out, but I know that, you know, Councilor Walsh

[1:02:42] definitely has an interest in it and he did say that he attended last meeting.

[1:02:46] So I mean, is that something that can we accept that formally now and point, we'll put

[1:02:53] on a agenda, we'll officially, we'll get a future at point.

[1:02:55] Councilor Walsh, I could have a next meeting.

[1:02:57] I have no say who's on, who's on is not.

[1:03:00] Correct.

[1:03:00] You don't.

[1:03:01] And I just want to bring it up.

[1:03:03] But you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

[1:03:07] Which I have many opinions we didn't ask you are a pin and I'll get it

[1:03:16] Okay, we good thank you very much sure. I know all the trash questions. Okay. Thank you. Thank you

[1:03:24] Okay gentleman contours

[1:03:30] Consent agenda. We have two items on a consent agenda. I'm going to suggest that we do 111 separate

[1:03:35] We have a motion for the consent agenda, we have a motion number 11.1.

[1:03:49] Mr. Chair.

[1:03:51] Councilor.

[1:03:51] I move to accept the donation from Hooks of Cornest Foundation

[1:03:54] to the Police Department in the amount of $1,000 per RSA,

[1:03:58] 31.95-B paragraph, three, some paragraph B.

[1:04:02] I'll second it.

[1:04:03] Thank you, gentlemen.

[1:04:05] Any comments in either of you?

[1:04:06] We'll start when we're still up here.

[1:04:08] No questions?

[1:04:09] Thank you once again to Corners.

[1:04:11] Yes.

[1:04:11] Whatever.

[1:04:11] Thank you.

[1:04:12] Go out as normal.

[1:04:13] To vote.

[1:04:14] So, councilor, after anything you got to add or to our question.

[1:04:17] Any other councilors?

[1:04:18] Any questions regarding that?

[1:04:19] Donation from the hopes of Corners.

[1:04:22] And then being said, we'll take a roll call.

[1:04:24] No, excuse me.

[1:04:25] Roll call.

[1:04:25] Please vote.

[1:04:26] I was very pleased to say aye.

[1:04:29] And opposed?

[1:04:32] It was 11-2 is a donation of land from in Cat Properties.

[1:04:40] I'm sorry.

[1:04:41] I mentioned in our last meeting.

[1:04:45] And we believe the paperwork is all in line.

[1:04:48] And if there's any questions, it's to property at the...

[1:04:52] At the beginning of a legend's drive off of Route 3 that used to have the sign.

[1:04:57] Still has the sign.

[1:04:58] Still has the sign.

[1:04:59] .

[1:05:00] All right. I want to say a few minutes, where I can't remove the control.

[1:05:00] Do you have the mandate, if you give it to a motion?

[1:05:02] I do, we talked about this a couple of times.

[1:05:04] Yes, we did.

[1:05:05] Yeah, I'm move to accept the parcel of land donated by Anquet Properties Incorporated,

[1:05:09] which is map 25-Lot 59, a .95 acre, lot to the town of Huxett.

[1:05:15] I think it's not going to let him get a second.

[1:05:19] Was that a hand for a second?

[1:05:20] It's a consequence.

[1:05:21] Yeah.

[1:05:21] Two other people said it.

[1:05:23] We have anyone who put down a young lady for a second and we'll get to go and we'll

[1:05:27] look either one of you conscious of that motion in the first.

[1:05:30] I heard you both said it in counselor.

[1:05:32] I think I saw the ten administrators hand up.

[1:05:34] I'm going to yield my time to that.

[1:05:35] I was going to share with you.

[1:05:37] I was going to share with you.

[1:05:38] I was going to share with you.

[1:05:40] I was going to share with you.

[1:05:41] Yes.

[1:05:41] So back in December, the council.

[1:05:44] I've made a council aware of the offer from Incan,

[1:05:48] with regard to that piece of part.

[1:05:49] The piece of land on the corner of Legends Drive in Group 3

[1:05:52] currently has the sign for Legends Golf on it.

[1:05:57] And they also mentioned that not only did I want to offer it,

[1:06:00] but they're willing to take, remove the sign that's on there.

[1:06:04] And that's only thing I would offer to the council to consider.

[1:06:09] And its motion is to the removal of the golf sign.

[1:06:13] But electricity, hookups, and everything will remain so whatever we want to utilize that site for, it will be able to provide electricity to it.

[1:06:26] So again, my only concern with regard to this parcel was that there's no environmental issues that we are going to be inherited and the owner of the property indicated that there are none.

[1:06:40] you know, that it would be free to come and

[1:06:44] by again, if the council wanted these time removed, then that could be part of its motion.

[1:06:52] I trust me to do it.

[1:06:55] Do we need it removed?

[1:06:57] Is this something we could use?

[1:07:00] It doesn't exist any longer.

[1:07:03] So the same election is a soft wouldn't do any good, but the,

[1:07:06] what's what I'm thinking.

[1:07:07] Foundation for this time.

[1:07:08] I understand.

[1:07:10] Some of them.

[1:07:11] the foundation and upright or something that if you want you take it down and get rid of it

[1:07:17] it's gone but if you find your use for it after that you say, you say, if we kept that

[1:07:20] so I don't know if it'd be necessarily a rush to get rid of it.

[1:07:24] Question comment?

[1:07:26] Could we ask somebody that knows better?

[1:07:29] I'm assuming if the electrical's hooked up to it then it would be kept somehow.

[1:07:35] So, if we go to put a new sign on likely we would have to take that down any help but I don't know.

[1:07:43] So, who is a meter in pedestal there that belongs with the property and that is applied for a metapole by every source and it is metered.

[1:07:51] However, so at some point in time the metering would have to be transferred to the town of Huxit.

[1:07:55] There would be no charge if you're not using electricity, but there's a monthly fee, which is light, slight for having it there.

[1:08:03] So you could have them take the meter and they blank it out.

[1:08:07] But you want to keep that pedestal there, because that has to be, if that was to be replaced,

[1:08:13] I wasn't interested in that to replace it.

[1:08:15] So my advice to having sent a couple of days at that company would be to leave it.

[1:08:19] We move the meter until such time as we want to meter to power, but we definitely leave that pedestal there.

[1:08:25] Yeah, no, I like correct, but not the sign, right?

[1:08:28] We don't need the sign.

[1:08:29] We don't need the, I don't like the top of the masking.

[1:08:31] Yes.

[1:08:31] If anything, it confuses people.

[1:08:33] I thought the police isn't there.

[1:08:34] So that was what I was saying.

[1:08:37] So we picked down the sign, or I think we should just say we take it out.

[1:08:40] Yeah, that would take it out.

[1:08:42] So I think we need to stipulate that, though.

[1:08:44] Because if we don't say leave the upright, it's going to be gone.

[1:08:46] We're going to be a push-over.

[1:08:48] We're going to come up to some benefit to the town of the way to date.

[1:08:50] If not, we can take it down for scrap metal.

[1:08:53] Yeah.

[1:08:53] I think it just takes off this sign part of it, you know, the stuff that we feel that has some value.

[1:09:01] But we have, I have received a couple of complaints about one of that sign coming down from residents.

[1:09:09] Is that what you're reading?

[1:09:10] Which conclusion?

[1:09:12] Yeah, a less confusion on that itself.

[1:09:13] So do we need to adopt the, the verbiage of leaving the, the stance in our upright?

[1:09:19] I mean, the fact that comes with a problem, at this point we probably have to do anything.

[1:09:25] Except it.

[1:09:27] Except it.

[1:09:28] And again, if we accept it with the sign as it is, then it would just be our responsibility.

[1:09:32] At some point in the future, but they're willing to take down the sign out.

[1:09:36] There are portions of it.

[1:09:38] If we say take off the golf ball and the, and the wrapping.

[1:09:42] I'm pretty sure whatever's left there will be left.

[1:09:45] But I think the willing to do whatever we would want to do.

[1:09:47] The way you can sign could become someone's member of the area, someone might want that.

[1:09:53] Where's the Heritage Commission?

[1:09:54] Where are they?

[1:09:55] The Heritage Commission doesn't have space for accepting donations of sudden.

[1:10:00] So it's okay, you don't want it. The original motion in council is as to accept the property, leave and as is in our discussion, led to removing the actual identifier for legends, which is the top of the sign and leave the rest. And if that's acceptable, that's all recorded. We could vote on at this point.

[1:10:25] and travel from there. Any other questions or discussions?

[1:10:30] Okay, then cost with all of those who are in favor of the motion.

[1:10:34] Please signify by saying aye. Aye.

[1:10:37] Aye. And those opposed?

[1:10:38] Okay, that takes care of that.

[1:10:40] I think we should thank them.

[1:10:42] Thank you.

[1:10:43] Thank you.

[1:10:44] Always turn this through the time.

[1:10:46] What's up?

[1:10:47] They're always turn this through the time.

[1:10:49] So our next order of business is an nomination in appointment, nominating.

[1:11:25] to the term on the Heritage Commission June 30, 2029.

[1:11:34] And I know she's here.

[1:11:35] I don't know if she wants to add anything to it.

[1:11:37] We kind of know her background.

[1:11:45] Any other questions from any members of the council?

[1:11:49] Okay, then all those in favor of that nomination, please say aye.

[1:11:54] and you want to post.

[1:11:56] And thank you.

[1:11:58] Thank you very much.

[1:11:59] We need some here to commission members, so.

[1:12:01] Thank you.

[1:12:04] Okay.

[1:12:04] Councilor Sir, our next item is 141 in.

[1:12:08] Excuse me, Mr.

[1:12:09] I'm not sure if we want to put it on for the next meeting.

[1:12:13] But I was directed by the.

[1:12:17] Planning Board to request that the council nominate in a point.

[1:12:22] Michael Somers to the New Hampshire

[1:12:25] Southern New Hampshire

[1:12:28] Planning Commission.

[1:12:29] Planning Commission.

[1:12:30] So I'm not sure what that term is, so if we can put that in for the next round of nominations.

[1:12:39] We ended.

[1:12:40] Did you get that?

[1:12:41] Thank you.

[1:12:42] Senator, no action this evening.

[1:12:44] Thank you very, very good.

[1:12:46] Very much.

[1:12:47] Thank you.

[1:12:48] All right.

[1:12:48] Your councilors.

[1:12:49] I didn't number 14 when electric was supposed to bid Ben, are you going to come up and explain what happened here and why we're visiting with us again?

[1:12:59] Thank you.

[1:13:05] Good evening counselors.

[1:13:07] So last meeting two weeks ago I was here for one agenda item or one of three for the electrical support bid.

[1:13:16] Somehow we got to mix up in the contractor names that we wanted to award the contract to.

[1:13:21] So, I am here to recommend that you rescind your previous, what's it called, the motion, thank you.

[1:13:33] And award this to the correct little biter for this.

[1:13:39] Oh, great.

[1:13:40] Oh, great.

[1:13:41] Oh, great.

[1:13:42] So we have to do this one at a time.

[1:13:48] I don't recall the name of that, but we can all have.

[1:13:53] It is on page 52 of your packet.

[1:13:56] It's a recent original motion awarding the electrical support

[1:13:59] bid to the Nesco electric with INCOTI,

[1:14:05] DBAIC electric as backup with the option to terminate contract

[1:14:09] with the company that does not need to be set as ready to work.

[1:14:12] So moved.

[1:14:13] Okay.

[1:14:14] So moved.

[1:14:15] Second.

[1:14:16] We have an ocean.

[1:14:17] We have a second.

[1:14:19] Either if you have any question from Ben or for Andre regarding that.

[1:14:24] I'm glad you caught it.

[1:14:25] Any other conversation?

[1:14:26] Yeah.

[1:14:26] It happens.

[1:14:29] Yeah.

[1:14:29] It was a mistake.

[1:14:30] No question.

[1:14:30] It happens.

[1:14:31] Okay.

[1:14:32] No further questions.

[1:14:33] We're regarding that.

[1:14:35] All those in favor of that motion.

[1:14:38] Please signify by saying aye.

[1:14:41] Aye.

[1:14:41] A post?

[1:14:45] Okay.

[1:14:46] Thank you.

[1:14:47] Controarch.

[1:14:47] Option two award, the electrical support bid to Oak Ridge Electrical LLC is primary contractor

[1:14:52] with EMPODI, as a secondary contractor, with the option to turn away the contract, that

[1:14:58] would come to the end.

[1:14:58] That does meet this as well.

[1:15:05] Second, with an option to terminate contract with the committee, but does not meet satisfactory

[1:15:10] roll. That's what you're saying. And aye, second.

[1:15:15] Two letters. Okay, council, either of you, you motion, any comment or discussion?

[1:15:22] No, I just I believe we did a roll call vote last week. We did do another one. We didn't need a roll call on a shirt or we shined

[1:15:29] No, we didn't we didn't we don't need one for that dollar amount of that contract. So roll call please

[1:15:35] Constra. roll call number two. Councilor do him. Aye. Councilor Liberty. Aye. Councilor Smith. Aye. Councilor Lappier. Aye. Councilor Walzer. Aye. Councilor Sullivan. Aye. Chair

[1:15:47] into us. All right. Thank you, council. Okay.

[1:15:54] Sure. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you, Ben.

[1:15:59] Councilor. Before we because I believe we're going to give the next one till the end.

[1:16:07] I do. Yes. Yeah. I do have one more thing under old business that I'd like to bring up.

[1:16:12] I said very simple.

[1:16:15] I love to do that.

[1:16:19] Oh my.

[1:16:20] Good morning.

[1:16:21] Good morning.

[1:16:22] Good morning.

[1:16:23] Good morning.

[1:16:24] All right.

[1:16:25] So let me find it though.

[1:16:26] Is it a motion that's on the table?

[1:16:28] That was table at a previous meeting?

[1:16:29] Nope.

[1:16:31] Hold on.

[1:16:32] I just got a lot of tabs going on here.

[1:16:34] Okay.

[1:16:35] So last time we discussed the

[1:16:40] a plaque, thinking the Marseille family at the Naughty Park, and we were trying to remember

[1:16:46] because we thought we had voted on this or said to do it, I did find in a subcommittee

[1:16:52] report from October 8th that

[1:17:04] it says for Councillor Walsek had said, they spoke with the

[1:17:09] chair of Parks and Rack Advisory Committee today, the committee would like to explore

[1:17:13] getting a plaque together to Macy's industries and Bruce Thomas for the roles in the foot

[1:17:19] bridge at Nonty Park. But I didn't find anything else concrete except for exploring that.

[1:17:24] So I didn't know if we wanted to bring that up. And again, give it our blessing to go forward and do that.

[1:17:30] the parks and wrecks of Joe.

[1:17:36] Because we get the parks and wrecks of Joe.

[1:17:39] We'll be at the name of these.

[1:17:42] It was parks and wrecks of Joe.

[1:17:44] We do the approach to having that come up with an experience

[1:17:48] and actually eating as an agenda.

[1:17:50] Give us some sugar.

[1:17:52] As long as it's done before next October.

[1:17:55] So that would be nice.

[1:17:58] She's always got her hands moving.

[1:17:59] I was going shopping and I think we'll make sure that it's on your agenda for the next time.

[1:18:03] I like the last item you asked me about.

[1:18:07] If I could just ask, what was that, what date was that on?

[1:18:12] It was in the minutes of October 8th.

[1:18:17] Thank you.

[1:18:19] Yeah, I was at that meeting.

[1:18:25] I was at that meeting.

[1:18:26] It was Parks and Rec meeting and we brought it up in person here.

[1:18:30] We there was a discussion at that meeting that led to

[1:18:35] The recommendation that was made directly by

[1:18:40] Andy Janos

[1:18:44] Recommend the mercy of our public meeting we had here

[1:18:49] So in public it was during the parks and you'll update so you'll so this will be an adjunct or I

[1:18:55] Council

[1:19:00] Okay, then I

[1:19:01] That it for you

[1:19:06] So I'm going to be asking around here a little bit.

[1:19:08] I want to get, sort of, last thing we have to do is to contract and come out and vote and

[1:19:13] that I'll be in to it.

[1:19:16] So we have a couple of items here.

[1:19:18] I'm going to submit to ordnance number 002651 and if we there's a motion for that, who's taking the lead

[1:19:29] on that?

[1:19:30] Well, actually, I'm going to introduce Lee Ann McLaughlin, just as part of a recommendation

[1:19:36] made by the Highway Safety Committee on a couple of projects that it had reviewed as a

[1:19:43] committee.

[1:19:44] And the resulting action is what you'll be hearing tonight.

[1:19:47] And Councillor Smith, feel free to jump in as we go through this as well as he's part

[1:19:51] of the Highway Safety Advisory Board.

[1:19:54] So it has been brought to the Highway Safety Advisory Board that the Police Department

[1:19:59] Thank you.

[1:20:00] Based on our current no-through trucking verbiage in the ordinance at the moment, which is a quick little paragraph, it's hard to enforce.

[1:20:10] So we have created a amendment to the current ordinance as well as an adoption of a new ordinance to help enforce that.

[1:20:20] So that's basically what we're looking to do. This ordinance has been reviewed by the Highway Safety Advisory Board, the Police Department and Public Works.

[1:20:27] So this first is the first step. This is the introduction for review and we're just moving it to a public hearing and the RSA requires actually two public hearings for the ordinances.

[1:20:38] I know town council rules the procedures only say one but the RSA does say two so we'll be going forward to public hearings.

[1:20:45] I believe Grant McGregor also brought that up before we were talking about another ordinance that the procedure is two public hearings.

[1:20:53] So at some point when we're looking at rules of procedure, when you guys do annually, we'll probably make that suggestion to them and that as well.

[1:21:01] So again, we're going to page 75, and I'm seeing a parking prohibition on a half way down the page.

[1:21:11] Is our ordinance that we came up with a couple of years ago in action to that car carrier that was parking up by the school bus stop?

[1:21:21] Yes, for weekends and a ton of weekends, overnight, and all that, there's nothing.

[1:21:27] I don't know off the top of my head when that was came into effect, but Councillor Sullivan

[1:21:33] is in grievance with you.

[1:21:35] So I'm going to go.

[1:21:36] I'm going to go.

[1:21:37] I think that I do know that individual, that, uh, one of the individuals that kept me

[1:21:43] arrested at, moves out of that neighborhood, but there's one that was right across the street

[1:21:47] that I was talking about, so we're ongoing with this, that worked.

[1:21:52] Yeah, that's great, awesome.

[1:21:55] And if we have ordinances and this difficulty for us to enforce them, we should certainly

[1:22:00] make those things, because I have an ordinance if we really can enforce them, so I think this

[1:22:07] is a good idea to tighten up that language to give the police officers the department more

[1:22:12] ability to enforce the ordinances, so I don't know if Mr.

[1:22:17] if the advisory board member would like to offer that motion to, I think they'll probably

[1:22:24] appropriate.

[1:22:25] If that's all right with you?

[1:22:27] Yes.

[1:22:27] Okay.

[1:22:28] All right.

[1:22:29] I'd like to make a motion.

[1:22:31] A motion to move the amendment to ordinance.

[1:22:34] Number 0 0 dash 26.

[1:22:36] Signage regulations for the town roads and the new proposed ordinance.

[1:22:40] Number 26 dash 0 1 no through trucking to a public hearing.

[1:22:44] on April 22nd,

[1:22:46] 2026.

[1:22:48] I'll second it.

[1:22:50] Should we indicate to the first public hearing?

[1:22:53] You should say the first public hearing.

[1:22:54] Okay.

[1:22:55] To the first public hearing.

[1:22:56] Okay.

[1:22:57] One of two.

[1:22:58] Consciousness.

[1:22:59] You made the motion.

[1:23:00] Anything.

[1:23:01] Com it.

[1:23:03] You made the first motion.

[1:23:05] Yes.

[1:23:06] Who seconded that?

[1:23:08] I did.

[1:23:09] That was okay.

[1:23:10] So either of you,

[1:23:11] quite first.

[1:23:12] Definitely.

[1:23:12] And so, you know, we talked about some things.

[1:23:14] There was something I did bring for it.

[1:23:16] I asked him to live on a no-through trucking street,

[1:23:18] and we have, I can tell you, I probably have that 20.

[1:23:22] Better, large vehicles through trucking on Martin's fair road.

[1:23:28] Obviously, we have an issue here on Main Street as well.

[1:23:30] We have signage, and we're just trying to figure out

[1:23:33] how do we enforce it, and then dealing with chief sergeant.

[1:23:36] He just said, you know, there's only so much we can do,

[1:23:38] because the original ordinance was very vague.

[1:23:41] And we don't want to start wasting time and chasing things that turn into, like an expense.

[1:23:46] So that's why we ended up, you know, we took the time to go to other towns and not so much go to them.

[1:23:54] But figure out some of the words they use and then put she put it together to make this happen.

[1:24:02] Thank you.

[1:24:02] Councilor Walshaku, second aid.

[1:24:05] I'm nothing bad.

[1:24:06] Thank you very much to our attention.

[1:24:10] So the next step will be our next meeting, it will be the first public, it will be on the agenda, for the first public hearing.

[1:24:17] Okay, so do we need to vote on that since I'm able to vote on it.

[1:24:21] So all of us in favor of that emotion, please say aye.

[1:24:26] And any opposed.

[1:24:28] Okay.

[1:24:28] Thank you again.

[1:24:29] Thank you for the support.

[1:24:31] Very happy.

[1:24:33] All right.

[1:24:34] So we have a minute.

[1:24:35] I didn't have 15 two counselors and it's back up information first on

[1:24:40] 82 83 a detailed rate change for police chief in or a captain

[1:24:47] Now we'll take a motion from anyone who's willing to make it

[1:25:10] I would like to move to accept the new verbiage, replace the old in the Huxitown personal plan under police, details, on page 14 to read as follows.

[1:25:30] Data rate, please department, non-union, sworn,

[1:25:35] detail rates, page, non-union, sworn employees shall be

[1:25:38] 70 dollars per hour, effective July 1st, 2026.

[1:25:43] And the event, the detail extends eight hours.

[1:25:47] The employee will be paid at one and half times

[1:25:51] the detail rate every hour, worked after eight hours.

[1:25:55] I'll second it.

[1:26:01] Second.

[1:26:02] Second.

[1:26:03] Second.

[1:26:04] Thank you.

[1:26:05] I have a question or anything.

[1:26:07] You made a motion.

[1:26:08] Councilor.

[1:26:09] Okay.

[1:26:10] Councilor.

[1:26:11] I think we've asked this question before.

[1:26:17] But how often.

[1:26:19] How often does the police chief in captain do detail duty?

[1:26:24] That's pretty infrequent. I can tell you the only time I ever do it is for parades or for light up the village or one of those things that nobody else signs up for

[1:26:34] So it's pretty infrequent. I know the captain he is also infrequent. He'll work the voting most years.

[1:26:40] Yeah, but that's a detail ray.

[1:26:42] Yes.

[1:26:43] No one worry never leaves.

[1:26:45] Yeah, so those are really the only ones we do and the only reason I'm asking for this is because the unions are increasing their rates

[1:26:52] So it's just a stay in line with the other people that I get paid for these details in our department.

[1:27:00] That's all.

[1:27:02] So when I'm sorry.

[1:27:04] This is a follow-up.

[1:27:05] When it's a company that is asked for a detail in the company pays array in that effectively pays the officer.

[1:27:15] But when it's voting or light up the village or something, is that the talent paying?

[1:27:20] It's paid out of the detail fund, which currently sits at about $350,000, a lot of money in there right now.

[1:27:26] The town is working on trying to reclaim some of that through 20%.

[1:27:30] So when we charge a detail to a company, we charge them $77 as an administrative fee.

[1:27:36] Now that our officers are getting $70, seven of that, the town gets 20% of that.

[1:27:44] So I thought we talked about upping that.

[1:27:45] There you could up it. The problem is we need to up the actual amount. We charge the company right back at this point and I know that

[1:27:53] Christine was here. I think the last time and I don't want to put words back in her mouth because I don't forget exactly what I said

[1:27:57] But I think the idea was to try to have that fun kind of reduce itself a little bit before we did that

[1:28:05] But again

[1:28:06] The problem is is that we have $350,000 in there and we're only allowed to spend it on fuel

[1:28:13] maintenance for the detail vehicle as well as the detail.

[1:28:16] No, I understood when I when I got here was a hundred percent had to be spent on

[1:28:20] detail related items and then we switched it to I forget it was a 80, 20, 20, 20, 20.

[1:28:26] I advocated that to be 50, 50, 50 if you recall, but I lost that battle.

[1:28:31] I'll still advocate for it if it comes back up, but the I was at the Union

[1:28:35] negotiations when they when we increased it to 70 and the thought was and it was

[1:28:39] than this room that we would, we would up what we were charging for, for our detail rate in

[1:28:47] order to make up the difference. This idea of drawing down the, like, charging less

[1:28:51] money to draw down in the account is, didn't come from this board.

[1:28:55] No, and I agree with you that this should be increased. I know other departments that are

[1:28:59] administrative fee where they start at is over $100.

[1:29:03] R's is still at 77. I would suggest that we do raise that, but obviously that amount would

[1:29:11] probably we would need to do some type of survey with the other agencies or we don't

[1:29:15] price ourselves out of the market. I know that other these companies are willing to pay us,

[1:29:19] but I don't want to set some fee that's astronomical that they wouldn't want to pay.

[1:29:23] To do the work that's needed in town.

[1:29:28] So that issue that Council Appear is could be discussed so that probably that may be in the

[1:29:34] agenda item that Council Appear would like to have that for a future agenda.

[1:29:38] But if we got to this, I think it makes sense based on the chief solution is, but the rest of the result is a so-called cyberartist point, but it should be something we discussed at the other day.

[1:29:52] So we have a motion on the floor, and second it, there's no further discussion. We can vote. Okay.

[1:30:00] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you.

[1:30:11] And we are currently pretty much a councilor.

[1:30:18] maybe I'm not done for the evening.

[1:30:20] Can we ask more questions about this or do it?

[1:30:26] I'm about the whole account in spending down versus.

[1:30:32] We're going to have that.

[1:30:33] That has nothing to do with this.

[1:30:35] No, I know that.

[1:30:35] We voted on it.

[1:30:37] But we will become a future agenda item.

[1:30:39] And it could be a future agenda.

[1:30:40] And if someone were to request tonight,

[1:30:43] they'd become a agenda item on the next meeting

[1:30:45] or the meeting after that, if that could happen.

[1:30:47] I would like to request that, and I don't think it has to be the next meeting, but I'd like

[1:30:53] OK.

[1:30:54] I know I'm constantly having this name, but I just want to get in line.

[1:31:01] If your question is based on what you just said, then I suggest you go first with mine.

[1:31:06] OK.

[1:31:08] We will be having discussions on the budget soon, because of the default budget.

[1:31:16] Revenue is always something that we look at when we also discuss the budget and maybe that's something that

[1:31:23] There would be appropriate to say, you know, I was look at some of our revenue sources

[1:31:27] This being one of them saying, you know, are we are we looking at that adequately?

[1:31:34] Why can we be a wide range in conversation on in terms of

[1:31:38] Facilities rentals like that so that we'll come up a little shop soon on a gender is that do you like it all right?

[1:31:45] I mean, it's time to.

[1:31:49] Conscious Smith.

[1:31:50] Yes, so before we get out of new business,

[1:31:52] I have some things I like to read on to the record.

[1:31:55] You have the floor.

[1:31:56] All right.

[1:31:56] Thank you.

[1:31:57] This is a statement to the hopes of town council.

[1:32:00] Good evening.

[1:32:00] I want to address a matter that I was personally involved in.

[1:32:04] And I am raising it here strictly for the governance and public trust perspective.

[1:32:10] Recently, while at a public setting outside of an official town function,

[1:32:14] and I was approached by individuals associated with outfire department.

[1:32:18] During that interaction statements were made suggesting that I may be perceived as a threat

[1:32:22] to the department and the conversation became tense.

[1:32:25] I want to be clear, I'm not raising this.

[1:32:28] It's a personnel agreement.

[1:32:30] Excuse me, personnel grievance.

[1:32:32] I am raising it because it highlights a broader concern about professionalism boundaries

[1:32:36] and how members of the public safety department departments engage with others in the community,

[1:32:42] including elected officials outside of official duties.

[1:32:46] When those types of interactions occur in a public setting,

[1:32:50] they can impact public confidence, reflect on the town,

[1:32:53] and reflect on the town as a whole.

[1:32:56] As a council, I believe we should consider

[1:32:58] whether we're the current expectations for off-duty conduct

[1:33:02] are clearly defined, whether additional guidance

[1:33:06] or training is appropriate, and how we ensure that all

[1:33:10] reactions, formal or informal reflect the professionalism expected of our departments.

[1:33:17] I am not asking this council to take any action on a specific individual, but rather to

[1:33:21] ensure our policies and expectations are clear and upheld.

[1:33:25] This is about maintaining trust accountability in the integrity of our town.

[1:33:33] I'm great, dude. Was there something that you had for the response from I do and I think this was I think there was an email sent to Chief Nathol and in correct I inform them and I did not get a response from either the chief or the deputy chief

[1:33:53] because this actually happened

[1:33:55] last night and and I don't know if this constitutes a response, but he

[1:34:01] Chief Nathol did send me an email with

[1:34:05] a memo worth guarding, that's particular incident.

[1:34:10] You said, and I'll just read that into the record as well.

[1:34:14] The Huxit Fire Department, Fire and Rescue Department

[1:34:17] has been made aware of an off-duty conversation

[1:34:19] involving an employee of the department and the local

[1:34:23] executive official that has been raised allegations

[1:34:25] regarding the professional conduct.

[1:34:28] Although this matter occurred outside of work hours

[1:34:32] and off of municipal property, the fire department, is revealing the reported interaction

[1:34:38] in accordance with the established department and town policies.

[1:34:42] As this is an off-duty personnel related manner, the fire department will not comment further.

[1:34:49] As the public safety organization entrusted with the community, the fire department has always

[1:34:53] held members to the same standard and professionalism and conduct that applies across

[1:34:59] .

[1:35:00] All town of Hoopsett departments consistent with our shared values and responsibilities.

[1:35:07] The department will remain committed to operating with pride and integrity to serve the town of Hoopsett.

[1:35:17] Thank you, Roger.

[1:35:20] Okay.

[1:35:21] Confidence.

[1:35:22] That, uh, a conference submit to ask that to be in the record.

[1:35:25] And that is, uh, both of these launches are now currently in record.

[1:35:29] And, uh,

[1:35:32] any more further action required at this point?

[1:35:36] Constable.

[1:35:36] Yes.

[1:35:36] No.

[1:35:37] Thank you.

[1:35:38] Um, I just wanted to read that on to the record.

[1:35:39] So, uh, I also have another, um, public comment.

[1:35:43] Good evening.

[1:35:43] My name is David Smith.

[1:35:44] Folks at town counselor tonight I'm entering into the record a summary of multiple first

[1:35:49] hand accounts of residents and business owners regarding the conduct of the current building

[1:35:53] inspector. These accounts are not isolated. They reflect the consistent pattern of behavior described

[1:35:59] as rude, condescending, selectively enforced and in some cases openly retaliatory. One local

[1:36:05] business owner reports being ordered to shut down and already approve patio without any written

[1:36:11] directive after seeking help from the council he was told you tried to go against me now you're

[1:36:17] going to pay for that. He was then subjected to repeated inspections, excessive requirements

[1:36:22] and financial loss. Another resident on Benton Road brought forward documented concerns

[1:36:28] about violations of an improved snow storage plan even after providing the official plan.

[1:36:34] The issue was dismissed with the...

[1:36:36] Consciousness gave you the start for a second.

[1:36:38] We may be shredding in water that we shouldn't be.

[1:36:41] Sanchez is a town employee.

[1:36:42] This may have to go to non-public at some point.

[1:36:44] Well, I don't believe it does.

[1:36:45] That absolutely does, I'm sorry.

[1:36:47] I did not name, I named the department not a person.

[1:36:50] I named the individual, but not my name.

[1:36:52] And it's not your decision to make that.

[1:36:54] I'd like to remind you of that.

[1:36:55] So if the council chairman makes your suggestion

[1:36:58] that this may be have to come up to non-public,

[1:37:00] then that's the way it's going to have to be.

[1:37:02] So you can stop at this point.

[1:37:03] Thank you.

[1:37:07] And if it's up to the council, it's up to the council.

[1:37:14] It is, however, if the chairman or someone thinks it should stop, then it stops at that point and will continue with it.

[1:37:22] I thought we as a collective decide about it.

[1:37:25] In most cases you do it in the meantime, when you have to stop somebody for something that may be violent in 1991,

[1:37:31] we don't have to take a vote on it, it just happens.

[1:37:34] I think you know that.

[1:37:36] All right.

[1:37:36] Thank you.

[1:37:37] We all agree on it.

[1:37:39] We don't agree on anything.

[1:37:40] We agree on it.

[1:37:41] We stop that conversation.

[1:37:43] Because it involves individual that works for the town.

[1:37:46] It's not a public matter at this point.

[1:37:49] It's hearsay at this point.

[1:37:51] Okay.

[1:37:53] Point.

[1:37:54] Point.

[1:37:55] Point.

[1:37:56] Point.

[1:37:56] question for for Councillor Doheim if you don't when when you said we all agree we all agree

[1:38:01] on what just all agree that this should be non public yeah agree yeah that's that's what

[1:38:06] I thought you were saying hey I think there was a little misunderstanding I want to make sure

[1:38:10] you want to stop it because it didn't it's not like you wanted to continue

[1:38:17] and when this does come up and if this does come up a non public session then I would

[1:38:22] You know, one, I wouldn't have all the listing of what the allegations against the

[1:38:28] employee are.

[1:38:29] So the employee has an opportunity, the definitive service has not be subject to decimation

[1:38:35] of character on hearsay, which should have, that should be presented.

[1:38:41] The employee, as we have done with other employees in the past, have an opportunity to hear

[1:38:46] what's going on and defend themselves, and they have an opportunity not only to have

[1:38:51] this in non-public session, but they also have the opportunity to have this in public session

[1:38:55] as well.

[1:38:57] So can we be clear so the employee can choose non-public or public, but I cannot read this

[1:39:04] into public.

[1:39:06] I can't make it public.

[1:39:07] Correct.

[1:39:10] You should read 91A, you really should, but it states clearly that when you're discussing

[1:39:16] something that might affect the reputation of a person not elect to this board, it should

[1:39:21] done in non-public.

[1:39:23] So, this is my second time that I brought this up, and the board has not acted the first

[1:39:27] and now the second.

[1:39:29] So the thing about non-public meetings is that if we've had a meeting about this priority

[1:39:34] being on the board, you wouldn't know about it, right?

[1:39:38] So I understand it.

[1:39:39] So don't think that nothing happened before you got elected to town council, right?

[1:39:44] We've been a lot of us have been here for many years, working with the town for many years,

[1:39:49] on all sorts of items up and down. Can you clarify your point?

[1:39:54] My point is that this board existed before you got on it.

[1:39:58] So you're assuming I didn't believe that.

[1:40:00] It was the case. I, you don't act like it. No, you act like I would not. You've never been concerned. You're being a little overbearing with your comments. Okay. And obviously things happen prior. And if you think so, third year to fall budget, how you doing on your, your 10 year now? What does that have to do with it? You're not, you're not taking care of the people. Mr. Chairman, can we move on to the regular item like I understand it's a concern, but I don't, you don't want to go this way.

[1:40:27] a nine public item. I would like that to happen sooner than later time. Thank you. Okay,

[1:40:34] I'll concentrate. I believe that the last thing item before we're going to turn on public

[1:40:41] is the approval of the minutes of March 25th at 2026. I'll have a motion.

[1:40:49] Mister, I like to make a motion if I can be recognized to approve the minutes of March 25th

[1:40:54] twenty twenty six as presented I'll second. Although I will note that the minutes change font

[1:41:03] randomly in the middle of the document and then change back. Do I want the procedure specific

[1:41:10] specified the font? They they do not but I would just would like them to be the if the same font

[1:41:18] the row if possible.

[1:41:23] Okay, so we have a motion we have a second.

[1:41:26] Second.

[1:41:26] I made the second.

[1:41:27] Oh, you thank you very much, Councilor.

[1:41:29] Okay.

[1:41:31] And I started from the front of any of the issues.

[1:41:34] No, they were the contents were perfect.

[1:41:38] Very good.

[1:41:38] Okay, that's good.

[1:41:40] Thank you.

[1:41:41] Councilor.

[1:41:41] Okay.

[1:41:41] All of us don't feel the motions as presented.

[1:41:45] We say aye.

[1:41:47] Post.

[1:41:48] Okay.

[1:41:49] So, Council was our next order of business and is non-public under it in 1991, A, 3,

[1:41:59] 2, and A and B.

[1:42:02] We have another set of minutes to approve.

[1:42:05] Oh, we do.

[1:42:06] We do.

[1:42:08] We do.

[1:42:09] We do.

[1:42:10] Non-public minutes.

[1:42:10] I'm sorry.

[1:42:11] Mr. Chair, I move to approve the non-public minutes for March 25th, 2026.

[1:42:17] I'll second it.

[1:42:19] Thank you.

[1:42:20] Okay.

[1:42:20] All of my fair, we say aye, aye.

[1:42:25] And anyone opposed?

[1:42:28] Thank you very much.

[1:42:29] No, we have one thing.

[1:42:32] I got this mentioned one thing, which I omitted in my T.A. report.

[1:42:36] And that has to do with it.

[1:42:38] I think I indicated a hiring that would took place,

[1:42:41] but there also was a resignation within the police department.

[1:42:45] And I was around Richard Folcher, police officer.

[1:42:48] who is resigned effective April 17th, 2026.

[1:42:54] Thank you, Andre.

[1:42:56] Thank you.

[1:42:58] Our motion could

[1:43:02] go into public call.

[1:43:03] Could we do as for public input one more time just for appearances?

[1:43:11] Agenda item 17.

[1:43:13] Drill you just.

[1:43:15] There's nobody here, sorry.

[1:43:17] Say that.

[1:43:18] I do as a motion to point to nine public.

[1:43:20] So, counselor, would you roll call please?

[1:43:25] Was that seconded?

[1:43:28] I was seconded.

[1:43:29] I didn't.

[1:43:30] First time.

[1:43:31] I thought it was already.

[1:43:31] Thank you.

[1:43:32] And that was citation A and B.

[1:43:35] Correct.

[1:43:37] Oh, what?

[1:43:37] Can we have a?

[1:43:39] We haven't ended.

[1:43:41] What's that?

[1:43:41] We're going to.

[1:43:42] He made a motion going to non-pop agenda.

[1:43:44] I mean, that A and B.

[1:43:46] Based on the T.A.

[1:43:47] we put in our say and be I can read you the citations if you'd like.

[1:43:58] Thank you.

[1:43:59] All right.

[1:44:00] Thank you.

[1:44:00] All right.

[1:44:01] We'll call number three in turn and I'm public.

[1:44:02] Councilor Wolzer.

[1:44:04] All right.

[1:44:04] Councilor Liberty.

[1:44:06] Aye.

[1:44:07] Councilor Smith.

[1:44:08] Councilor Love here.

[1:44:10] Aye.

[1:44:10] Councilor Sullivan.

[1:44:11] Chair.

[1:44:11] into this?

[1:44:12] I

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