[0:05] Good evening. Welcome to the town board meeting of Wednesday, December 13th, if we can all rise. Those are not standing for the pledge.

[0:15] I pledge allegiance to the flag.

[0:20] I thank

[0:23] you

[0:45] all again that warm my heart. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[0:50] We did not have an exact session tonight, so if I can ask for a motion to open the town board meeting of Wednesday, December 13.

[0:57] I'll make that motion.

[0:58] I'll second.

[0:59] All in favor?

[1:01] And Mindy is Chris here, was Mindy?

[1:04] She's out there.

[1:05] Is Chris here?

[1:06] Okay.

[1:07] That's okay.

[1:16] So we have, it looks like a long agenda, but I think we're actually going to get through it fairly

[1:22] quickly, we have a couple of hearings as well.

[1:26] So we'll start right at the top of our agenda, which is something I've had on the agenda.

[1:34] Every meeting for months and months and months, which is some Albany legislation,

[1:38] Goberna Hockel's Housing Compact, and the New York State Legislative items, the Housing

[1:43] Compact, which I announced, I believe, at the last meeting.

[1:46] From the information I got from the assembly in the Senate, was that the governor appears

[1:52] to have pause, hit the pause button on the housing contact,

[1:56] for at least next year, which means that everything

[1:58] that this board's been fighting for together for three years,

[2:02] preventing New York State from taking over local zoning.

[2:05] It looks like we've got at least a pause for 2024.

[2:08] So I would advise next year's board to keep a close eye on it,

[2:12] and just keep the pressure on.

[2:13] And we've said for years, we're here to help.

[2:16] We want to work with the governor.

[2:17] I've invited the governor to town to see how our town

[2:20] as unique and how one size doesn't fit all.

[2:23] So we just need to keep that pressure on.

[2:25] The other item is the New York State Legislative

[2:27] items, which is the bill that was passed by the Assembly

[2:30] in the Senate.

[2:31] Fortunately, our state Assemblyman, Chris Burtick,

[2:33] who may be here, soon voted against it,

[2:36] and our state Senator Shelley Mayer,

[2:38] is the only Democrat in the State House to vote against it.

[2:42] And the reason that we're not in favor of it is because it

[2:46] will move all of our town elections to even years,

[2:48] which means there will be, in conjunction with,

[2:51] govinatorial races in the president.

[2:54] And then all the local issues and all the people that are

[2:57] sitting in these seats, those races

[2:58] will get drowned out by the millions and hundreds of millions

[3:02] of dollars put into those larger races.

[3:04] So we're very much in favor of keeping the local town elections

[3:08] on odd years.

[3:10] So the argument for it, which, to me, makes no sense,

[3:14] is that turnout will increase.

[3:16] It will, but not the turn of it that you want for local issues.

[3:19] So, what I recommend to residents and I put in my emails is click on the Governor's website.

[3:26] You can't send her a direct email.

[3:27] Just send an email if you agree with us to please urge her to veto the bill and to keep those local elections a lot of you on hard number years.

[3:37] I'll pass it to the town clerk for the last time for community announcements and town clerk report.

[3:41] Allison.

[3:42] And thank you.

[3:43] And I have to say that it's been an honor and a privilege to work with you.

[3:47] I've learned so much from you.

[3:50] I've always, every, I started here eight years ago prior to that, I was a communications coordinator

[3:57] and had the privilege of working with you.

[4:00] I was with you on soccer fields and, you know, volleyball tournaments and it's just really

[4:06] truly been a pleasure to work with you.

[4:09] And the board, you have always shown grace and consideration and respect to all the people

[4:16] that you work with, all the residents, and you've never let an issue go by without fully

[4:24] vetting it from every side, listening to every perspective, and that's definitely something

[4:29] that you learn from you as well, that there's many, many ways to look at every specific issue

[4:34] and so many different interpretations and I appreciate that.

[4:40] I appreciate your graciousness and your intelligence and the commitment you've given to the town over all of these years.

[4:49] You're really a wonderful role model and your family is beautiful and just thankful to have had this opportunity.

[4:57] Thank you.

[5:13] I'll just go into the announcements as well. And thank you to everybody who's here and you're showing of support and coming out tonight, celebrate Mike, and share in the concerns and issues of the town. So I appreciate your all being here.

[5:35] Happy holidays, it's so Hanukkah.

[5:38] Tonight I believe it's the last night, so happy Hanukkah.

[5:41] Tomorrow night, there will be a Hanukkah celebration

[5:44] and monoral lighting in Wampus, Brooke Park.

[5:48] And that will be at 7 p.m.

[5:51] There'll be a Hanukkah monoral lighting and some singing.

[5:56] And I think there'll be some snacks.

[5:59] I'm not really sure.

[5:59] I think perhaps as well.

[6:00] Graves and snacks.

[6:02] I think it'll be a win for the past few years and it's been a wonderful event and I recommend

[6:06] everybody in the community to come out for that.

[6:10] It's tomorrow tomorrow's last night, Monica.

[6:12] Oh, tomorrow.

[6:13] Excuse me.

[6:14] I'm glad I won't miss it.

[6:17] Um, one thing on that, because I got a couple of emails that thought we would be in disrespectful

[6:22] to Hanukkah.

[6:23] We're not, uh, Councilman Bill and worked on it with the rabbis and they picked the suitable

[6:27] night to do it.

[6:28] So it was not in disrespect.

[6:29] We did have them in our lighting when we did a holiday lighting during frosty, but it was a date picked by the

[6:36] rabbis and the correct answer.

[6:37] Yeah, there's respect on it.

[6:38] Yeah, there's no, it's not the last time.

[6:40] I just got some emails like, you know, why you doing this, Sonic has already started, it's

[6:45] ending.

[6:45] It was, they chose the date, so.

[6:47] Yeah.

[6:47] Trying to accommodate everybody's schedules.

[6:50] And then another important, very important event in town is a blood drive.

[6:54] It's so important to give blood.

[6:56] Unfortunately, I know that from family experience and there's always a sort of shortage.

[7:02] So if you have time and you can't, and you are capable of giving blood, please do so.

[7:08] There's a blood drive at the North Castle Public Library and the Armunct Branch on Monday, December 18th from 11am to 5pm.

[7:15] You can make an appointment on the library, there's a link on the library's webpage,

[7:20] or you could call 800-933-2566.

[7:27] There are a volunteer opportunities on the Landmarks Preservation Committee,

[7:30] the Conservation Board, the Library Board,

[7:33] zoning board of appeals, and always on NC4.

[7:36] You can get more information about that on the town website as well.

[7:40] So, that's all I have, thank you.

[7:42] Thank you.

[7:44] Thank you, Madam Minister.

[7:45] Thank you, Kevin.

[7:47] I have one quick one tonight.

[7:48] one positive, the Environmental Facilities Corporation, EFC, has awarded a New York State Water

[7:54] Infrastructure Improvement Act grant for the Towns Waste Water Treatment Plant Upgrade.

[7:59] This grant is in the amount of $780,325 dollars, and in addition to the money that we've

[8:08] received through the WQIP grant, which was nearly just about $3 million.

[8:13] This is great news and it's accredited to the work of our water and sewer director, Salamaciti.

[8:20] And I'd also like to wish you the best in your post-mancipal retirement.

[8:24] It's been a pleasure working with you for the last, excuse me, four and a half years.

[8:29] And I'm sure our past will cross many times in the future.

[8:31] Thank you.

[8:33] Appreciate that.

[8:34] We'll go to town board, Lea's on update.

[8:39] I just wanted to share a couple things, so from the liaison to the library update, we had

[8:46] a library meeting in the board the last week, and a couple of things that have been coming

[8:53] up that I just want to share with the community is around ability to be doing Zoom meetings

[8:59] from different public spaces that the town offers, so there was a request to enable that in

[9:05] the North White Plains Community Center,

[9:07] and also in the Armont Branch of the Library.

[9:10] So we, as a town, we're going forward with a plan

[9:14] to put, like a mechanism there.

[9:18] So it would be a large screen TV that has built-in video camera

[9:22] and mic pickup.

[9:23] So people can just go and log in directly from there

[9:27] and then hold meetings that are hybrid, physical,

[9:30] and on video.

[9:32] So that is something that's, I think, going to be really helpful

[9:35] for the town.

[9:37] I have those in place.

[9:39] In early January.

[9:42] So in case someone didn't hear that.

[9:44] So I also was just saying that the plan is to have them in place by early

[9:46] January.

[9:47] I'll say January.

[9:49] So that's one update.

[9:52] And then the other piece was just on the arm monk branch of the library.

[9:58] I think you all have seen that there.

[10:00] There's some construction updates happening. So that's to actually renovate like the beams in the internal

[10:07] structure of that library. So I just want to thank everyone for your patience. Is that complete? So

[10:12] over the next few weeks. And that's it? Great. Thank you, Slime. Deputy Supervisor.

[10:19] I'll be doing this soon, though. Tomorrow in the journal news, there'll be a public notice,

[10:24] advertising a two bedroom middle-income housing unit in Whipperville Hills if you are on the waiting list

[10:31] you will be notified via email and if you are not then I suggest tomorrow that you go on the

[10:37] town's website and I believe on the home page Allison will be a a direction for you to follow

[10:46] and it's an online application although you have to submit some information via the U.S. Postal

[10:53] service. It is a 40-day window from the first day of advertising this unit tomorrow, and therefore

[11:00] all applications would have to be received by January 22nd 2024.

[11:07] The second thing I would just like to mention is on Sunday we had a holiday party at the

[11:14] Northway Plains Community Center, and I see Nancy Battastelli and Michelle Fallett are here,

[11:20] And they were two of the women along with Terry Loberman and with Jackie Macan who put really a tremendous amount of time and effort, shopping, preparing the room, organizing so that we had different events, also a librarian, Sue Greco, did a wonderful job with crafts with her staff, and you just, this is that sense of just giving back to the community.

[11:49] and Nancy and Michelle and the other women who participated.

[11:55] They don't look for praise.

[11:57] It's just something that they feel they want to do for their community.

[12:01] And we're really very, very fortunate and I thank them very much.

[12:05] And you had a lot of little children seeing Santa Claus

[12:09] and having pictures taken with him and just had a really wonderful time.

[12:13] So I thank you very much for your time and effort.

[12:16] And finally, this is, I've decided that I am an absolute denial.

[12:24] I refuse to accept that in January that Michael Scholarow will not be here as supervisor

[12:34] and it's just to me there's going to be a void that is going to be very hard to fill.

[12:43] Mike, I don't want to repeat everything that Allison said, but when you think of his license plate, be decent.

[12:51] That's, that's Mike in two words.

[12:54] I can't tell you the first couple of times when I was on the board during public comment.

[13:00] Someone would get up and direct some horrible comments at Mike.

[13:05] I mean, horrible.

[13:06] And I'm sitting there, seething.

[13:10] And what does he say when the person's finished?

[13:12] Thank you.

[13:14] I'm like, thank you.

[13:15] Are you kidding me?

[13:17] Thank you.

[13:18] But that's my.

[13:21] And he respects people, even though their opinions may differ.

[13:28] He still treats them with respect.

[13:31] And I've learned so much from him,

[13:35] just by observing, for instance, one of our land

[13:39] to Saturnis in town said, when I go before this board,

[13:45] I can't figure out that guy, does he like my application or not?

[13:49] He just sits there, he listens, he doesn't not his head.

[13:54] And when I'm done, I have no idea, is this a yes or a no?

[13:59] And I thought, you know, he's right, though,

[14:01] because, you know, I'm, I'm others to say, don't wear your heart on your sleeve and I think that

[14:07] Mike understood that there was a process and that first introduction to an application or

[14:12] a zoning change, you really, that's all it was with an introduction.

[14:17] And you really shouldn't give a message, you know, through your body language or whatever,

[14:23] how you're feeling initially because at the end you may feel totally different.

[14:28] So, it's just I could go on and on, but you have been an inspiration, you are just an incredible human being.

[14:40] You're devotion to the town at the expense of your family. How many times did you miss a birthday?

[14:47] An anniversary? A graduation? Never.

[14:51] All right, many times and it was because this was his commitment and

[14:58] We will

[15:00] On one hand, we are so fortunate as a town to have Mike serve on the town board, serve a supervisor, but I think that he will leave a lasting impression, and someone that I think we will always hold in high regard.

[15:22] Thank you, Mark.

[15:35] Yeah.

[15:36] So I serve as the liaison to the parking wreck advisory board.

[15:40] So the IBM indoor facility, the IBM bubble, is coming up for renewal in August

[15:48] and the parking wreck board asks that we have a work session in January to talk about the criteria

[15:54] that we want to use for the RFP for the request for proposal to re-bid it.

[16:00] So that was all I had tonight.

[16:03] I'll keep it short, too, because I'm liaison to a couple of committees that are going to be presenting today.

[16:11] Importantly, sustainability.

[16:14] You'll sing Ruth's chairs here, and other people from the committee as well. Thank you.

[16:19] And then also, Dave Simons is going to present for the Ethics Board, and also very important group.

[16:26] We've been trying to keep things on the up and up and propose improvements, so we thank

[16:33] him for that.

[16:34] And I also thank everybody who's here.

[16:37] I think I can say in neutral ways possible, these are controversial times, so it's good

[16:44] that we get people out and expressing their opinions.

[16:47] So thank you.

[16:48] Thank you.

[16:49] I have a couple of comments, but our Assemblyman Chris Berdick is here, so he was on the

[16:55] haven't surely were on the agenda, but their schedules are low chaotic so I'd like to

[17:00] print myself for a second and turn it over to Assemblyman verdict Chris.

[17:03] Thank you so much and I'm here really on behalf of both myself as well as Senator Mayor who

[17:12] extends her regrets that she couldn't be her this evening. I want to extend congratulations on behalf

[17:20] both Shelley and myself, for reelection of Jose Pera and Salim Hasein, congratulations.

[17:27] Thank you, Chris.

[17:28] And, yes,

[17:35] one of the time-on-our traditions among those of us in the state legislature

[17:41] is that when we have someone who has served the town in the highest capacity within that town,

[17:49] you'd like to recognize that service. And this is certainly no exception.

[17:56] And so Shelley and I both wanted to present to Mike Schlero. The incredible work that he has done

[18:06] in recognition of that, we each have proclamations that are issued on behalf of each of our chambers.

[18:15] So, the proclamation I have actually came from Albany, and is on behalf of the entire New

[18:22] York State Assembly, honoring Supervisor Chilera for his incredible service to North

[18:30] Castle, and similarly, Shelley has done likewise from the State Senate.

[18:36] And I'd just like to take a moment to read the proclamation first from mine and then

[18:43] read the one from Shelley, whereas it takes courage, stamina,

[18:49] pragmatism, and an overriding concern for the well-being of others,

[18:55] including both present and future generations,

[18:59] to run for and serve effectively in elected office.

[19:04] And whereas Michael J. Scholarot was elected town councilman in 2007,

[19:10] and supervisors six years later, devoting his level-headed diligence and skill in government

[19:20] to Northcastle for well over a decade, and whereas from Michael's first volunteer role

[19:27] in town government administering middle-income housing, he has balanced environmental preservation

[19:34] with the housing needs of a growing population, with both the acquisition of over 100 acres

[19:41] of open space, and the construction of our mount commons. And whereas having reinstated

[19:49] the town's AAA bond rating, Michael has kept town taxes low, negotiated town use of

[19:56] facilities, a biome health central, and the

[20:00] Self-hally union free school districts, and supported the 10 small businesses during COVID. While also, ensuring

[20:09] the safety of Northcasts of residents through regular communications on health protocols and a successful

[20:17] mask collection effort. And whereas enhancing both public safety and quality of life,

[20:25] Michael convened a stakeholders group, the elected officials and concerned community members

[20:32] to address police reform and brought an ambitious road-repeaving project to completion ahead

[20:40] of schedule.

[20:42] Now therefore be a proclaimed that is a guly-elected member of the State Assembly of New York

[20:48] for the 93rd Assembly District.

[20:50] I honor and commend Supervisor Michael J. Chilero, whose far-sighted governance is contributed

[20:58] so much to Northcastle.

[21:01] Thank you, Chris.

[21:12] I do want to add a little addendum to this.

[21:17] Michael and I were elected in the very same year in 2007.

[21:23] I was elected to the Bedford Town Board and Michael was elected to the Northcastle Town Board.

[21:31] Then we will also elect it at the same time as supervisor in our respective towns.

[21:39] So Michael and I go back a long way.

[21:43] And that friendship mutual respect and consulting with one another has endured throughout that.

[21:55] And I will give as the most recent example of that where Michael stood up for this community

[22:08] and so many in Westchester County when he said the governor's proposal on housing doesn't work for us.

[22:18] And we worked very closely together, and Michael helped leave the charge in Westchester

[22:26] Municipal Officials Association.

[22:30] And I do believe that if it were not for Michael helping to pull together a coalition of local

[22:40] elected officials, but most importantly, the community, we might well have seen that

[22:47] proposed to go into effect, and he did it his second year in this budget season.

[22:56] And we fought the same battle together, and I don't like to fight battles like that.

[23:04] I prefer to try to reach consensus and compromise.

[23:09] I'm hopeful that this coming budget season and legislative session, we can come up with a

[23:15] housing policy, but when that works for North Castle, and one that works for the people

[23:22] of the State of New York, but we can give tremendous credit to Michael for his work on

[23:28] that two years running. Michael, I cannot tell you how invaluable your friendship and your

[23:36] wise counsel has been to me, both during the times that we served in parallel at the town

[23:44] And when I came into office and was there to represent North Castle in the 93rd Assembly District.

[23:52] So if I could, maybe I could have this in front so that I can memorialize this.

[23:59] My communications director would be the gas.

[24:03] I didn't walk away without the photo.

[24:05] I think, if you let it go it's just one more moment ahead of Christians.

[24:12] Oh my god, appreciate that one.

[24:26] I can take it long ways too.

[24:30] Well, for him.

[24:34] I can surprise.

[24:36] Thank you so much.

[24:45] and by the way, I know that Senator Mayor would join me and what I said about what Michael's role was with respect to the House of Representatives.

[25:00] Let me just take a moment then to read the proclamation from the New York State Senate.

[25:09] Where is it is the practice of the New York State Senate to publicly acknowledge individuals who serve the best interests of their community?

[25:18] and thus we recognize Michael Schelero for exemplary service within the community and state.

[25:26] Upon the occasion of his last North Castle board meeting.

[25:33] And whereas attendant to such concern and in full accord with its traditions,

[25:38] this legislative office is justly proud to commend Michael Schelero upon the occasion of determination of his term as town supervisor.

[25:47] and whereas Michael Shalero has served the North Castle community with dedication and commitment

[25:56] during his years as town supervisor. Mr. Shalero slies the board having served faithfully

[26:03] for 16 years, first having served as councilman for six years and ten years as town supervisor.

[26:11] And whereas Michael Schillero gave his time to working with board members to maintain a strong

[26:18] financial footing in Northcastle, while improving infrastructure and preserving the environmental

[26:24] beauty inherent in Northcastle, working closely with the elected officials at all levels of

[26:30] government on behalf of the town of Northcastle. And whereas when individuals of such noble

[26:38] claims and accomplishments are brought to our attention. It is appropriate to publicly honor

[26:45] those individuals. Now, therefore, be resolved that I, Senator Shelley B. Mayor, commend

[26:51] Michael Schillero for his distinguished service to the community and state and thus urge

[26:59] all citizens to share in this celebration and to take this opportunity to appreciate this distinguished

[27:06] person in our great district from Senator Shelley B. Mayor.

[27:12] Thank you, Chris.

[27:13] Thank

[27:19] you very much.

[27:22] And thank you all for your indulgence.

[27:24] Appreciate it.

[27:24] Thank you, Chris.

[27:32] So when it comes to my part of, I don't usually do town board liaison updates, but the thing I've been doing since.

[27:38] I've been supervisor is something I call a celebrate the good.

[27:41] So, recognize a team and individual anywhere in the country in town.

[27:48] So, tonight, it's only right that I celebrate all of you.

[27:53] Everybody in this town that lives in this town works in this town.

[27:58] I celebrate you all.

[28:00] And I'm just going to go through a few words and a few thank yous and a few memories.

[28:05] And then we'll get moving on with the meeting.

[28:07] But when I think about my service to this town and resperment,

[28:12] those this date well, I called the resperment day was May 22, 2007.

[28:17] I had lunch and white planes with somebody, a crack-to-tooth.

[28:19] I had emergency rucanale, and I was on my way to the Yankees game with friends.

[28:24] And resperment called and said, we want you to run for town board.

[28:28] And I said, absolutely not, this is not going to happen.

[28:31] One of the time, every young family, and then we know what happened.

[28:37] I ended up running for town board.

[28:40] Somehow, it was never in my radar screen

[28:42] to run for supervisor.

[28:44] There was so many great people before me.

[28:48] And I became supervisor in 2013, as Chris said,

[28:51] and we had the same parallel paths

[28:53] that I'll not running for the assembly.

[28:55] So this is it for me.

[28:57] And then I got together with my confidential

[29:02] incredibly confidential secretary,

[29:04] many Barat who's somewhere around here.

[29:07] And I said, let's just kind of put down some of the things

[29:09] that we've dealt with since I've been on the board,

[29:12] especially a supervisor.

[29:14] We only covered a small part of it,

[29:15] but I'm just going to read some of these things as a reminder

[29:18] of some of the things that we've done.

[29:20] With the help of many town volunteers,

[29:24] we formed a master plan, comprehensive plan task force,

[29:26] an updated or comprehensive plan for the first time

[29:30] in over 20 years, and we did that because we

[29:32] we had the money.

[29:35] When CVS was proposed and all those hearings we had at the library, full of 300 people, very upset.

[29:42] But we got through that.

[29:44] The development of Marmok Square and the Chico's, which was really a game changer and that development

[29:48] changed the town in a great way.

[29:51] All the development we have in downtown and we have a lot of hearings on them.

[29:54] But all the walk to downtown and all the developments that we have in some of the developers are here as well.

[29:59] with.

[30:00] Thank you for investing in our town. The AFFH housing settlement that was started during

[30:08] Robesterino's time, where we were on the list, one of six communities. And I sat with the

[30:14] monitor, we took him into town hall, and I was looking for a fight. I put my arm around him and

[30:20] taught them about our town. To the point where the judge commended art and community for furthering

[30:25] a fort of our housing versus criticizing us because they didn't know enough about our town.

[30:30] So we just had to take the time to educate them.

[30:33] A small one, but the banks for the Avenue Resoning.

[30:36] That was a big issue many years ago, but we finally saw that with the help of all the stakeholders

[30:41] getting together, having the Bristol here, which is a terrific development.

[30:46] The paradigm development, the group housing on coal, where we filled up that library again

[30:54] And with the help of residents, we fought, and we won, and that development, and that poop housing is not in our town for the right reasons.

[31:02] Managing through all of our corporate neighbors during the bad economies, and the tax search areas, and working with them together, IBM,

[31:11] Swissery, all of our big corporate neighbors, which we love and appreciate, special election with the word system many years ago that we've, what we work through,

[31:19] creating a compensation and benefits manual.

[31:22] Working with our unions, especially the PBAs, the PBA union,

[31:27] and getting them to compromise on things like providing money for healthcare,

[31:31] which they never did before.

[31:33] When I first got on the board, we actually had a postpone,

[31:37] the swearing-in, because we had a blizzard.

[31:38] And I knew we were going to have a blizzard,

[31:40] as soon as I got in office.

[31:42] We had several house fires, which was heartbreaking,

[31:46] and we had a postpone, my swearing-in a few days,

[31:48] because we were dealing with a blizzard.

[31:50] We increased and improved our highway fleet

[31:52] of trucks and all of our equipment and our departments.

[31:55] The storms we had to deal with,

[31:57] Riley, Quinn, Brady, Isae,

[32:00] Kahn Edison's great program of line-hardening in town,

[32:03] so we have less outages.

[32:06] As somebody said before, the Page of Management program,

[32:09] which I give Larry Ruiz, he was here a lot of credit

[32:11] for that in Alex Green, I don't know if he's here.

[32:14] Larry led our budget finance committee for many years,

[32:16] and very big reason why all of our rows are paved now

[32:21] almost complete versus waiting another six to eight years.

[32:25] Restoring on Moody's Triple A bond rating, which took years to do.

[32:28] And everything I'm talking about, by the way, is team efforts.

[32:33] Whether we agree or disagree on all the boards I've served on,

[32:36] we all work together on behalf of the municipality and you,

[32:41] whether we vote differently or the same,

[32:43] we're all trying to push that ball in the same direction.

[32:45] And so it's always a team effort that there are budgets.

[32:50] When I got on the board, the budgets were a little tricky.

[32:54] The balance sheet was a little tricky.

[32:56] It took us years to restore that.

[32:58] But we did get a AAA rating back.

[33:00] I'm proud that over the last 12 years,

[33:02] or average tax increases, 1% a year.

[33:04] And we've got an incredibly strong fund balance,

[33:07] which I was focused on building for future boards.

[33:09] Not for our use necessarily, but future boards

[33:11] when they hit tough economies.

[33:14] We got the eagle replaced, and ironically, it's down now.

[33:19] So it will go back up, but that was a accomplishment, which the Bristol contributed to us.

[33:26] COVID, and none of us can configure COVID, and one of the incredible things during COVID

[33:32] is, and I've told this story before, is, it was a doctor in town, I still haven't met her.

[33:37] She reached out to me and said, we are desperate for masks.

[33:40] Can you see if you can figure out a way to get people in town to make masks or do something?

[33:46] We got instructions on to make masks. I disseminate through the community

[33:50] People got energized by it. I still have the rubber made at my house with masks written on it

[33:57] I'd leave it on my front lawn and at night these little elves would drop masks in ziplocks the doctor

[34:03] I never saw her. She would come pick up the mask, dropped them off to the hospitals,

[34:07] the scores of the medical group, thousands of masks. I still have some left, which a resident

[34:12] is going to volunteer. I wanted to frame them. So we have a family and town who's going to

[34:16] do that for us and donate it and I want to mount it in town hall as a memory of COVID and

[34:21] they're wonderful. I've got the gazebo rebuilt. The subdivision, the greenway by the pool,

[34:28] the greenway sky view, we finally got all that drainage fix. The icy rose for anybody who lives

[34:32] over there, we finally got that fixed, the long pond park district, finally, that was kicked

[34:38] down the road for so many supervisors and no disrespect to them and I just said we got

[34:41] to solve it.

[34:42] So we've been working on that, fighting with the, I fight with a lot of governors, but I had

[34:46] a fight with Governor Lamont in Connecticut because if somebody you remember, he wanted to

[34:50] put a toll between exit two and exit three, which is where Greenwich carves out, and

[34:56] he's just thought he can do it without asking us, well, we fought him.

[35:00] We went to Hartford. We sent a contingent. I always call him Indy. My also my Director of Legislative Affairs. She went

[35:07] Chris Berrick went. Barbara went. We made our case. And I was one of my great days in town when the governor of Connecticut said,

[35:15] you can tell the good people of Northcastle that they won. And that told did not happen. Because I would have really affected Northwide

[35:21] planes because people would have cut through on 22 and not pay that toll. The hotel tax. We got approved

[35:28] through a help of George Latimer and Shelley Mayer and David Buckwell

[35:32] up in Albany, which when we had hotels in town, we can pick up some extra revenue.

[35:37] All the New York State legislation we talked about fighting on the local zoning and keeping it

[35:44] here. All the New York State mandated programs that came out of the governor's office

[35:48] that we were just left to deal with. We dealt with it. The shared services, studies,

[35:53] The tax cap, the tax freeze plan, and the New York State man that about police reform, which we were going to do anyway, but we did it in accordance with that.

[36:01] And I also give my confidential secretary, Medi-Broad, tremendous amount of credit for leading that effort for us.

[36:07] We're finally going to have water on New King Street by the airport.

[36:11] Open space, we preserve 58 acres near my honest.

[36:15] That was the last day that that bond was, if Roland remembers because he got it a sign that it was a Monday night.

[36:21] It was after 10 years, that was the last day of the 10 years.

[36:24] I worked with Kerry K. Sock, we got that approved.

[36:27] And recently, due to Vito Erico, in his generosity,

[36:31] we got 63 more acres in the center of town at the Children's Preserve.

[36:35] So terrific, terrific acquisitions.

[36:37] The work we've done with PFAS and the contaminants in our water,

[36:41] changing the receiver of taxes from elected to appointed,

[36:45] which was something I really wanted to do.

[36:47] And also changing the reddit's residents to reform.

[36:49] and so it opened up more candidates for that.

[36:53] The airport and some of our neighbors, which we really like,

[36:56] but they wanted to push more planes over our skies.

[36:59] And we were not going to have it.

[37:00] So Michael Pollack, who's on our planning board,

[37:02] servers on the airport advisory committee, Larry Rewezi,

[37:05] servers on that subcommittee for air traffic.

[37:08] And it wasn't going to happen.

[37:09] We were not going to allow one more plane

[37:11] to come over our town that was not supposed to be here.

[37:13] And we did not.

[37:16] Community benefits agreements, the CVAs,

[37:17] which I gave her, it's how to turn it around and brownie.

[37:20] Really took the lead and was just accounting on that,

[37:22] and that's, if you've seen all the approvals we've done,

[37:24] now they include CVA, so we can get money from developers

[37:28] to provide money for the impacts that those developments

[37:31] are going to cause, whether it's respect to parking,

[37:34] traffic, all those things.

[37:37] We acquired the pool, finally, after all these years.

[37:40] It was a team effort, at the end, I thank Selene

[37:43] and Matt Millum for bringing that to closure,

[37:45] And now we finally own that pool.

[37:48] The Miller House finally got preserved.

[37:51] It was such a headache fighting with Westerners to county.

[37:55] And at that time, our county legislator, but we prevailed,

[37:59] and our new county legislator, Margaret Cunzi,

[38:01] it was just been wonderful and terrific to work with.

[38:05] We finally got the Windmow Water Project completed

[38:08] in all seven miles or so, all new pipes,

[38:11] and that should last another, hopefully, 50 years or so.

[38:14] We finally got the North White Plains Community Center renovated with bathrooms and showers,

[38:18] in case we need a shelter there, and our improvements in our parks and library.

[38:25] And through that, always my effort was always trying to maintain excellent relationships with all levels

[38:30] of government with no politics, so there was never any bias.

[38:34] And to just do it all eight politically with civility and decency.

[38:39] And also to maintain good relationships with our two school districts.

[38:43] Valhalla had never been done by supervisors, so I had reached out to them and maintained communications with them, and obviously with fire and hills, always.

[38:53] I'm going to leave people out, but I just want to mention a few people.

[38:59] There are a lot of mentors that I've had in this town that are not with us anymore and many that are.

[39:06] And they really taught me, that this town is worth loving, and they really taught me,

[39:13] it took the time to teach me how to love it.

[39:16] I always dream, my wife knows this, I always dream the living in a small town where you

[39:19] could walk down the street, you know the shopkeepers, and some people say this to me, and

[39:29] it's partly true because I am a banker, they say you remind me of George Bailey and it's

[39:35] And, but I feel that way. You know, I love this town. I love walking through this town. I love

[39:40] walking my dog and to be forced to sun up and after sun down and knowing people in town.

[39:48] And I'm going to give you some thank yous and no particular road. I want to start with those who are

[39:52] no longer with us. Becky Kittridge, who taught me so many lessons when I first started here,

[39:58] be teller some of you may remember

[40:00] Remember, Christy Staltstein, Bill Weaver, who was a mentor of mine, and looked at me almost like a son, Sean Ryan, who passed away recently, Jack, and we have to give his last name, but Jack, may Greg, and Don Greg, who's still with us, but a wonderful mentor to me, Jim Bo Ross, really only used to go by Jim Bo, but Jim Bo Ross, Carol Schmidt, many of you may have known she was a realtor in town. What a great friend to me. And so many more, and then others that are still

[40:29] around us and helped me, the great Bill McClure, who she was I tried to fill when he sat

[40:34] on this board when I first ran.

[40:37] Sue Gaffin, who I call the matriarch of our town, Jerry Geist, who was another mentor to

[40:41] me, who served on the town board, Michelle Berliner, who worked with Christy to create

[40:46] a staying alive and their story is incredible.

[40:49] If you've never seen their video, just go online and look at that staying alive video,

[40:53] and it will bring you to tears.

[40:56] Two interesting people, Denise and Stephen O'Connor, met Denise when I came

[40:59] And she was the first house I went back to when I won.

[41:04] She invited me in and they were just wonderful people.

[41:09] We had a lot of debates and conversations about the Banksville Avenue Resonning that I talked

[41:15] about.

[41:15] But in the end, we worked together and got that done.

[41:19] Sam Arrell, who doesn't live in town anymore but a wonderful friend and support are all

[41:24] the business owners and all the commercial property owners and developers that choose to

[41:28] best in our town, Dorn Donovan, who was our former controller, who taught me the most about

[41:34] municipal finance, and I give all the credit in the world to what she taught me.

[41:38] Sharon Tomback, when I became supervisor, Sharon's had some personal challenges going on

[41:45] in her family, and I didn't have Mindy at, and Sharon offered to be my secretary for the

[41:51] first month or so until I got my legs under me, and that was just terrific help, and she's

[41:55] He's been a great friend.

[41:57] Some friends that are here, Rocco and Barbara Triano,

[42:00] just like family to me.

[42:01] So thank you.

[42:03] This Acanino is the same way.

[42:05] The Valsicis, Bernadette Valsicis, the Ryan family,

[42:10] all my softball buddies, always very supportive.

[42:13] Always give me a hard time, but always very supportive.

[42:17] All the people who approach me in town that I don't know.

[42:20] And I'll tell you a funny story about this.

[42:22] But it means the world when somebody just comes up

[42:25] I mean, sometimes they say, you know, we don't agree with everything you do, but we trust that

[42:29] you're doing everything in the best interest of the town.

[42:32] Many years ago, we were having a party for one of my daughters at the house.

[42:35] It was as crazy, brainstorm, and may my wife sent me to CVS to get something, I had to get

[42:42] in and out.

[42:42] And my kids will tell you, any time I go into town, for milk, it's a two hour thing.

[42:48] And I'm in CVS, and somebody says, Mike, do you have a minute?

[42:51] And I never say no.

[42:53] And I said, I don't.

[42:54] I have to get back to my house.

[42:57] So I ran through CVS, I ran into this gentleman again,

[43:00] and he said, Mike, do you just have a minute?

[43:01] I said, I really don't.

[43:03] And only said, I just wanted to tell you

[43:04] you're doing a great job.

[43:09] It wasn't paid my road or my life's a ratter,

[43:11] I think it let never happen before.

[43:15] Neil and Maryam Bellman, just, I remember Neil,

[43:18] and my first year on the board,

[43:19] and we had a budget hearing at Critidin.

[43:22] That's how, you know, contentious those were.

[43:25] And I remember seeing him at the microphone just supportive of putting trust in the board

[43:31] and the decisions that they were making.

[43:33] All my same Patrick's Church brothers and sisters just incredibly close to me.

[43:39] The criptor family and Uncle Harvey and pop-up, which I've mentioned before, not by blood,

[43:46] but they are very close to me.

[43:48] The de-guardians, the rescue families, all of my friends in town,

[43:50] I'll ever reweze you or I thank you already, Alex Green, and all the judges that I work with

[43:55] Judge Schimer's here, Judge taught me a lot about ethics and that the ethics code needed

[44:00] to be revamped, and I give the judge a lot of credit for that.

[44:04] Bob McGoey, Wiesel's Ansky, Irish Shoman and Judge Martino, all very appreciative of them.

[44:12] Have a couple of people that were sort of acted like parents to me, and the low-brimons,

[44:16] I think Ed is home sick, but they were at the top of the list.

[44:18] They always kept an eye on me.

[44:20] Never got a pass from them, especially Ed.

[44:22] Always said it like it is, but really appreciated them,

[44:25] always keeping an eye on me.

[44:27] And I see Francis see her here, and her husband, Tony,

[44:30] have always been very, very supportive all these years.

[44:33] All the department heads and all the employees in this town

[44:37] have been incredible partners.

[44:41] Bob Castelli, who was our assembly men.

[44:43] Many years ago, told me one of the great lessons I learned

[44:46] in government.

[44:47] quick story, I know I'm running on but it's important. Bob had a special

[44:52] election with Pete Harkham and two gentlemen. This is the way a campaign should

[44:58] We run.

[45:00] And Bob one, and I got invited to the swearing in. And I'm a Democrat, Bob's a Republican, so it kind

[45:07] of took me, I was going to take in a back of it. I went to the swearing in. He'd hear him. The first

[45:15] thing that Bob did was recognize his opponent in the audience, and had him stand up, and he got him

[45:21] an applause. That's the way things should be done in my opinion. Wonderful lesson for me,

[45:28] And the first thing he said was, after the elections, it's time to govern.

[45:34] That was one of the greatest lessons I received and when I, in my survey, is that's

[45:38] the truth.

[45:39] And that's the way I've always worked to do that is you choose sides and then you have

[45:43] to come together in govern.

[45:46] My dear dear friend, all my neighbors on my street, but double a don, which I think I saw outside.

[45:52] There she is.

[45:54] I want you often hear me about walking my dog, why walk my dog with that.

[45:57] I call her my private therapist, because she gets to hear everything at six in the morning, and I couldn't ask for a better friend.

[46:05] Thank you.

[46:07] All my priests from St. Pass have been such great counselors to me.

[46:13] And so I thank them all, and I know I'm missing people.

[46:19] But Allison, right back at you, you know, it's been such a pleasure to work with you and know you for so many more years before you started here.

[46:26] I always appreciate your intellect and your legal background and we always figure it out, and I always appreciate your patience and your department's patience.

[46:36] Mindy has been through more than that, but any meeting that I may set every other week with them.

[46:42] I have to time, I've got to change the time, or I'm late, or I'll say start without me.

[46:46] But thank you for all you do and all your support.

[46:49] Our town attorney, Roland Barroni, has been a terrific partner to me for all these years from

[46:54] being on the board and then a supervisor. Barry Ryder, my former colleague, just a terrific

[47:01] partner for eight years and thank you for everything. And right across the board here,

[47:06] like my colleagues here, whether we disagree or agree, it still takes a lot as Chris said to

[47:12] for you to happen to ring and serve. So we all should always recognize and appreciate that,

[47:16] whether we agree on issues or don't agree,

[47:18] it takes a lot to be sitting up here.

[47:20] So thank you all for your service.

[47:22] In Kevin Hay, I gave Kevin a little bit of a hard time

[47:26] when we're interviewing him and he still

[47:28] reach recalls that, but all for the better,

[47:32] and you've been a terrific partner for me.

[47:34] And other than government, he's one of the handiest guys

[47:37] I know, so whether I have to borrow a tool or get some advice,

[47:40] Kevin, say everyone.

[47:45] I've had two deputy supervisors.

[47:48] Steve DiAngelo was my first and just the terrific partner in government.

[47:54] Different parties, and everybody who thinks, you know, you have a Republican deputy

[47:58] and you're a Democrat, I've never operated anyway differently in this town.

[48:03] It's always what I think is best for the town.

[48:05] And then succeeding him has been barber at the Jacinto, who I've known for so many years because we served on the House of Middle-income Housing Board together before I got on the board as did you and I learned so much from you and appreciated your professionalism so thank you.

[48:23] I know I'm leaving some people out, but I'm going to go to Mindy who is my confidential secretary and I think she's somewhere, there she is.

[48:31] I don't know how she has the patience to deal with me for all these years, but she is just

[48:36] the most incredible person I've ever worked with.

[48:42] Her patience, her work ethic, she just knows that she needs to be on 24-7, because I need

[48:48] her be on 24-7, whether it's a holiday, literally, you know, about to put a turkey in the

[48:54] oven on Thanksgiving and I need her to help me with something in the morning.

[48:58] There's nothing too great for her to do for me and you've just done that for years and it's going to be weird next year.

[49:05] Not working with you and talking to you about town business, but we'll have more time for regular life.

[49:11] I've loved to watch her family grow and now her grandkids and we interviewed right here.

[49:17] She sat in that seat and she was on crutches and she used to work for John Known.

[49:23] And we're talking, and I think now there was some synergies there, and somehow we started talking about our birthdays, and we share the same birthday, and that was it.

[49:33] That was pretty much, this is meant to be. So I just can't thank you enough for all you've done for me.

[49:40] You, without Mindy.

[49:41] Come on, Mindy.

[49:42] I don't know that I'm standing. Come on, Mind.

[49:44] Come on, Mindy.

[49:55] Forever grateful.

[49:57] And then there's my family.

[49:58] I've got...

[50:00] Extended family, my sister-in-law is here and I've been so supportive. Family that's watching, my two brothers, my brother,

[50:06] Phil has been so incredibly instrumental in helping me on the government side. I remember one quick story, he used to work for President Obama as his director of legislative affairs.

[50:16] And we were in the Oval Office in incredibly once and he used to share some of the things that I was dealing with on the local level.

[50:23] And I'll never forget this because we were working out of the Oval Office and the President President.

[50:27] But his hand on my shoulder and said,

[50:29] Phil's been sharing some of the things

[50:30] you're dealing with on a local government.

[50:32] Just keep fighting.

[50:33] Keep the fight.

[50:34] I'm like, you're the president of the United States.

[50:38] Just very memorable.

[50:39] I'm my brother, Joe, my sister, Sue, and all their kids,

[50:42] and all my nieces and nephews.

[50:45] And then I get to my family.

[50:47] And I'll try to get through this.

[50:50] But when I think about the sacrifices that they've made

[50:54] On behalf of me every time I ran it was a family decision. I remember I haven't dinner at made an ageer

[51:03] Through one of my decisions to run and one of my daughters said to me

[51:09] That if you don't run again, you're going to do something else. We know you

[51:15] So if you really want to do this do this because you're gonna you're gonna allocate the time somehow and

[51:22] They were right so I continue to run

[51:24] And they've been nothing but supportive since my daughter, Gina, who's three, he's in college now.

[51:31] She doesn't know her dad, her memory of not being part of the town or not being at meetings every other week or commitments on weekends and things like that.

[51:39] That's how she knows her dad.

[51:41] My other daughters were a little bit older, but they've always been by my side.

[51:46] My wonderful future son-in-law, Perry, is here as well.

[51:49] And I just can't thank them all enough for everything

[51:53] they've done through the years during campaigns,

[51:56] running around with, I like, Mike shirts on.

[51:59] And all the stuff they've always done for me,

[52:01] and being able to learn from that, being able

[52:04] to learn from them as well.

[52:08] But you all know the deal that those signs may say,

[52:11] we like Mike or I like Mike, but we don't know

[52:13] that Lori is the story, Mike, we don't want to.

[52:17] So my wife has always been by my side when I get home at some late meetings, it could be midnight

[52:23] one o'clock, I turn the TV on in the living room and maybe have a little bourbon or something

[52:29] to take the edge off, and Channel 39 is on, and that tells me that my wife was staying

[52:35] up all night watching her husband supporting me while I'm working, so I

[52:48] can't emphasize enough

[52:51] the sacrifices that my family has made for me and doing what I've done and I couldn't

[52:56] have done it without that.

[52:58] I really could not have.

[53:00] I had the four to the time to do the things that I wanted to do for this town and I just

[53:06] can't thank you enough for all you've done.

[53:09] And then lastly, I will thank God and I have my Bible right here and many of my friends from

[53:17] No, how important my faith is to me, and I truly will tell you that of all the support I've had.

[53:24] Without having my faith, I don't know how I could have gotten this done for 16 years,

[53:29] because there was some really tough times throughout those years.

[53:33] And knowing that I had to rest on my faith was always very important to me.

[53:40] And one of my good friends who passed away a few years ago in Screco is one of the people who gave me the strength

[53:46] to not be afraid to talk about my faith in public.

[53:50] So I thank him, eternally, and I've said enough.

[53:54] I appreciate you bearing with me and getting my thank yous

[53:59] out and my appreciations, and if I left anybody out,

[54:01] I truly am sorry.

[54:03] But there's so many people that I appreciated in this town,

[54:08] and people I don't know about, like I said,

[54:10] welcome up to me and thank me.

[54:11] And I'm not perfect for sure, and people disagree

[54:14] with some of the decisions I made.

[54:16] But I was just focused on what I thought was in the best interest of the town, so thank you all for indulging me, and let's get on with this.

[54:36] So with that we will get on to public comment, and we do have a policy which I'll just refresh everybody's memory on the timekeepers.

[54:45] So the time limit is five minutes. I'll give you like a 30 second heads up.

[54:50] uh... speakers should let it limit their comments to five minutes uh... we expect

[54:55] respect and civility no personal tax and town employees and town consultants

[55:00] And the supervisor always reserves the right to stop the speaker if they're violating anything in the policy. So, I don't know if there's anybody in the list, Allison, but I could turn it over to you and I'll be the timekeeper, except I don't have my phone, so I need a phone.

[55:12] But of course, we're going to start with our honorary historian, Jack Zipper. And on your way up, if you don't, I saw you in the paper, but I don't know what you got in the word for, can you share with us?

[55:28] What's the paper for the National Merit Scholar?

[55:31] Yes, that would be nice.

[55:32] Yeah, I became a National Merit Scholar Center finalist.

[55:41] So thank you.

[55:43] Before I begin my official presentation,

[55:45] I would like to start by wishing Mr. Shaliro

[55:47] well in his next phase of life in his career.

[55:51] And for those of you who don't know me,

[55:52] my name is Jack Zipper.

[55:54] I'm in 12th grade, and I'm here representing

[55:56] the North Castle Historical Society.

[55:59] North Castle has a rich and important history.

[56:01] And we would like to take a few moments at each board meeting to remind you quickly of some of its highlights.

[56:08] The recycling we call a moment in North Castle history.

[56:12] So this past April, I participated in an annual 10K race in Warpown Ridge called the Leatherman Loop.

[56:19] My dad and his friends run it every year, like a bunch of crazy people.

[56:23] And I highly encourage others to get out and participate in the full fun local trail run.

[56:28] The race was started in 1987, and is believed to be the largest trail run race, east of the Mississippi River, and possibly the third largest race trail run race in the United States, with over 1,300 ventures.

[56:44] I always wondered though, why is it called the Leatherman Loop?

[56:47] And it turns out the race is named after an actual man, a legendary local man who was

[56:54] simply called the Leatherman, and whose identity today remains a mystery, despite much

[57:00] research and even a 2008 book by Dandeluca called the Old Man Leather, historical accounts

[57:06] of a Connecticut and New York legend.

[57:08] So who was the Leatherman and the Leatherman loop?

[57:11] So, around 1860, it was common to find people wandering the countryside, usually looking for

[57:18] farming work, a meal or a place to sleep.

[57:22] One such wanderer appeared in our area of Westchester.

[57:25] He was also seen in areas of eastern Connecticut and Putnam County.

[57:30] He wore a homemade leather outfit and asked for only for meals.

[57:35] He appeared regularly like clockwork every month at many of the same homes he did not speak.

[57:41] He visited for more than 25 years.

[57:45] What made him a legend, in addition to the mystery of who he was, was his great distance

[57:50] or loop that he traveled, which turned out to be approximately 365 miles and took him over

[57:58] a month to do so.

[58:00] His timetable was set up so that he arrived in separate locations each day and his timing

[58:06] was so exact that many of the people along his path could set their clocks by him, so that's

[58:14] where the term loop and the leatherman's loop comes from.

[58:18] As for the leather, he came to be known as the leatherman due to his obsession with leather.

[58:26] He would visit harness shops and accept donations of leather scraps, and he sued them together

[58:32] himself into an out-fandish outfit, which included a leather hat with a visor, a pair of pants,

[58:38] which went well up to his chest, and were held by suspenders, a leather coat with a length

[58:44] just over his knees, and a pair of wooden, sold shoes, with you guessed it, leather tops. He had

[58:51] a bag of leather and walked with a cane as well throughout all of those 365 miles. The clogged

[58:58] that he made closely resembled a type worn by the peasants of northern France and Belgium,

[59:04] which is a part of the theory that he is from French or French origin.

[59:09] His costume weighed 60 pounds.

[59:12] It is also said that you could hear the leather creaked as he walked by, and there were

[59:17] some that also said you could smell the leather men coming.

[59:22] He lived in caves, which was probably a little bit of a part of the smell, and I believe the cave

[59:28] in Armank in which he stayed in is the cliff behind what is now the restaurant gavvy.

[59:34] His appearance and long walking distances made him a legend, but so did his warm personality.

[59:40] It's hard to imagine now, but people really look forward to his return to their homes each

[59:44] time, waiting for him with special meals.

[59:47] They would marvel at how much he could eat.

[59:49] The leatherman was known to eat whole loaves of bread and boxes of crackers at once, of course, without speaking.

[59:57] The leatherman survived the terrible blizzard here and...

[1:00:00] In 1888, but at the end of the winter of 1989, he was found dead in his cave in buyer-cliff.

[1:00:07] As for his origin, Mr. Deluka's book postulated that the Leatherman was of French Canadian descent, with

[1:00:13] possible Native American ancestry. This was supported by a small French pair of book that was found amongst his

[1:00:20] belongings after his death and his French style footwear. Even his burial was a mystery. He was buried in

[1:00:27] part of Cemetery in Austin, New York, and the headstone incorrectly identified him as

[1:00:33] Jules Borgle of Leon, France, was placed on his grave by local historical societies in 1953.

[1:00:41] And before that, around from his death, his only grave marker was a metal pipe.

[1:00:47] They attempted to exhum his remains in 2011 and found none, only dirt and some coffin nails

[1:00:54] were there. The dirt and nails were relocated to another site at the cemetery with a large headstone

[1:01:00] marked simply the leatherman. And that's all I have to you for today. Thank you.

[1:01:13] Thank you. It's a family again for volunteering to frame those masks. So I'm going to get those

[1:01:17] to you. So thank you very much for that. And one of the thank you. I'm sorry. The only reason

[1:01:22] we're really here are family and town is because Kay Anderson and her husband Bob sold us their house.

[1:01:30] And it's an interesting story because I came down on a Saturday after I left work as I was

[1:01:34] working in town at the bank and I ran home, my wife was very pregnant, so we got to look

[1:01:40] at this house. We pulled in the driveway, my daughter Polina was three and a half. She was

[1:01:44] sleeping in the car. Here she is now. And Emma was in Born Yet. So we ended up buying the house

[1:01:50] from the Anderson's. Emma was born three days after we looked at the house. It was here

[1:01:56] as well, and we're here because you sold us the house.

[1:02:00] So thank you.

[1:02:00] Happy.

[1:02:01] Didn't Kathy go out.

[1:02:02] She watched Selena.

[1:02:03] Yeah.

[1:02:04] You know who we were, but they, you know, and one other quick funny story

[1:02:10] because we were awarded the bid Sunday night.

[1:02:14] And I was working at First Union Bank, and this show me what a small, what a small

[1:02:18] town this was, but I loved it.

[1:02:20] So I got to work Monday morning.

[1:02:22] Becky Kichridge walked in the bank, the bank opened.

[1:02:25] And Sunday night Bob Anderson called me right nine o'clock and said you won the bid so Sunday night at nine o'clock Monday morning

[1:02:31] Becky comes in and sits in my desk and goes

[1:02:33] So I heard you move an arm on

[1:02:36] Like how could you know that?

[1:02:38] They know they were buddies

[1:02:40] But the message wise this is what I want. I love a small town. I want a small town and this is where we raise our children and we'll be forever

[1:02:47] So anyone? I'm sorry

[1:02:49] Next.

[1:02:51] I

[1:02:56] didn't have to give Jack a heads up because he knows the time, he's good, but I'll

[1:03:01] anybody else.

[1:03:01] I'll just give you a heads up.

[1:03:09] Hi.

[1:03:10] Okay.

[1:03:11] Yes.

[1:03:12] Sue Miller, 46 years plus in our monk, first I want to say thank you to Mike for all the years

[1:03:20] of service.

[1:03:21] I was one of the people who said, Mike, you have to run for supervisor and all your

[1:03:29] dedicated service and on a personal level.

[1:03:33] Thank you for being supportive of me and my time of need.

[1:03:38] I really always appreciate it that.

[1:03:42] I don't want to take the meeting down, but there's a few things I really need to say.

[1:03:49] Social media has tremendous power to keep people informed, to keep people up to date on current

[1:03:55] events so that we know it's happening in our town.

[1:04:00] It's very upsetting to me that our town, just like our country in our world, is so

[1:04:06] horribly divided now, things are really scary, upsetting,

[1:04:13] but it really bothers me to

[1:04:16] know that public officials can get onto social media, on Facebook or any of the social posts,

[1:04:26] and really create controversy and split the town more than it has to be.

[1:04:33] I think there should be a time of healing, and I really look to public officials to please

[1:04:41] not make comments and get into war of words with people, especially when things are not verified.

[1:04:51] This is just my personal opinion, but really upsetting to me to see what's going on.

[1:05:00] I really hope that some people will reconsider, not commenting on social media, it's just, it's better not that this generation is getting terribly affected, but our community is getting terribly affected.

[1:05:17] So, please, I'd like the town to heal, go back, I'd like our eagle to go back up with

[1:05:27] the sub-setting from me to find out that the eagle really just didn't fall down from

[1:05:33] water and winds.

[1:05:35] So, it needs to go up, it needs to be strong and our town needs to be strong.

[1:05:42] So please consider not you want to say something send an email to your friends text them call them

[1:05:52] but don't fight on social media

[1:05:54] You know

[1:05:56] They're never going to be able to sell a house in our mug again

[1:05:59] So please think about that

[1:06:01] Thank you sir

[1:06:09] That was the next

[1:06:10] With what knock the eagle down

[1:06:11] We're all asking

[1:06:12] So now the police department issued a press release today that

[1:06:17] Even though there was a bad storm, they're doing an investigation because there may have been some foul play.

[1:06:24] So that's all they released.

[1:06:25] They're looking at it.

[1:06:26] It would be very unfortunate if it were.

[1:06:29] But the Eagles going back up.

[1:06:32] They also said that they didn't know when it would have happened.

[1:06:36] They would impose.

[1:06:37] And it's been up there for a while and weathered.

[1:06:39] So they weren't quite sure.

[1:06:41] They're like Mike said they're looking into it.

[1:06:44] Alison Fab Green

[1:06:49] Oh

[1:07:21] I agree with all of the applied

[1:07:27] You're getting a very happy relationship

[1:07:32] I'm one of them

[1:07:34] One of the things

[1:07:36] Please let Bob speak

[1:07:39] Bob, would you mind having the mic just pointed towards you?

[1:07:43] So you mentioned in your, and you memories 13 years ago, you were elected supervisor and I was one of your senior campaign people did a lot of work for you raised a lot of money helped you become supervisor, I think and this is a wonderful outpouring for you and I think you deserve it.

[1:08:08] I think you've done a lot of good things for this town.

[1:08:11] And believe me, I would rather be anywhere else tonight

[1:08:16] because my comments are probably going to be upsetting

[1:08:22] to a lot of people in the Roman and some people in town.

[1:08:26] But there's something going on with this election

[1:08:29] that is so upsetting to me, I can't sweep it under the rug.

[1:08:33] We have a problem.

[1:08:35] We don't know who the next supervisor's going to be, and because they're still doing a

[1:08:41] recount, but it is incredibly close.

[1:08:44] And in terms of what happened, it's so close, we were able to look at all of the folks

[1:08:50] that have been cast.

[1:08:52] And turns out there's six folks that folks that we know of that are illegal votes.

[1:09:01] I can't imagine how this could happen on our town and I think a lot of the term it was illegal.

[1:09:09] Yeah.

[1:09:10] Just it's not a Q&A just let Mr. Greens.

[1:09:16] I think we need to let people speak during public comment. Nobody interrupts.

[1:09:22] Just guys, let me just run the meeting.

[1:09:25] Let Mr. Greens speak. I just want to correct one thing.

[1:09:28] He said, Bob did come to me in 2013.

[1:09:32] He had run Howard Arden's campaign.

[1:09:36] And he came to me a little less than a year later and said, we met him as steak.

[1:09:40] Can you run for supervisor?

[1:09:42] And of course, I have my family make many sacrifices for it.

[1:09:46] He asked how involved he needed to be in the campaign.

[1:09:48] I said, we have a team.

[1:09:50] He was not a senior person in my campaign at all.

[1:09:52] That is not correct, Bob.

[1:09:54] He did help me with communications in his neighborhood.

[1:09:57] And that was the end of it, so he did come to the end.

[1:10:00] And ask me to run. He was one of the people who did, I did. And many sacrifices later, I'm still supervisor, Bob.

[1:10:07] So six votes shouldn't be there. Starting from the bottom, we have Jonathan Relezy, who's the son of a running mate of Barbara, who voted here, doesn't had to drive up from North White Plains, hasn't lived here for a decade or more.

[1:10:23] We have Kevin Decker, Barbara's cousin,

[1:10:29] lives in Pennsylvania, has lived there for a decade or more.

[1:10:33] Excuse me. This is not a courtroom.

[1:10:35] I don't think this is appropriate.

[1:10:37] Let's.

[1:10:39] I think I really don't think this is appropriate.

[1:10:41] Let's go forward.

[1:10:41] Let's go forward elsewhere.

[1:10:43] Wait. Absolutely.

[1:10:45] Hey. Hey.

[1:10:45] Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

[1:10:51] Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

[1:10:52] hey hey everybody listen everybody listen listen listen listen

[1:10:57] sorry Mr. Green had five minutes he's got listen he's got three and a half minutes left

[1:11:04] Bob finish maybe you've put a few minutes back on the clock now because I didn't start the clock for the first

[1:11:10] minute okay thank you Mike anyway those are two out of six boats those two boats got counted they

[1:11:18] didn't have been, but they did. They slipped by. Then you have four votes that have been

[1:11:23] withdrawn. They're because they were so blatantly.

[1:11:28] It's not why sir. Dave, just let them finish please.

[1:11:34] Dave,

[1:11:37] this is really just wrong. This is really just wrong.

[1:11:38] This is really just wrong. This is really just wrong.

[1:11:39] Dave, just let them finish. So for votes, you have Paulina Shilaro, who put in a vote

[1:11:48] and the signatures don't match.

[1:11:52] That's the same thing for Allison's son and daughter, Andy and John.

[1:11:57] Dave, please.

[1:11:58] Dave, I can't keep starting and stopping the clock, please.

[1:12:01] Matt, we have to talk about it.

[1:12:03] Dave, please.

[1:12:04] Please.

[1:12:06] Please.

[1:12:08] Please.

[1:12:10] Dave, please.

[1:12:12] Okay, let me just, let me get through this.

[1:12:15] Anyway, these votes were deficient in two ways.

[1:12:20] The signatures don't match.

[1:12:22] We hired an expert to examine the handwriting.

[1:12:29] I have their report, which came in today.

[1:12:33] The examination of the handwriting said, there's almost no possibility that the same person

[1:12:37] signed both the election card and the ballots.

[1:12:42] Secondly, none of the people in the opinion of our attorneys have the right vote because

[1:12:48] they don't live in town. You can have a second address, but you still have to qualify

[1:12:55] to get through this. And they don't. So as a result, there was an opportunity, by the way, for

[1:13:02] the four votes that have been dismissed. They could have taken those back, and probably we

[1:13:10] wouldn't be here and no one ever heard about this.

[1:13:14] But attorneys for Barbara insisted to go to court to legitimize those for

[1:13:19] vote.

[1:13:20] Not true.

[1:13:21] And I'm true.

[1:13:21] This is true.

[1:13:22] Well, I went, he was I would stop the clock.

[1:13:25] You need to tell the truth.

[1:13:27] Okay.

[1:13:28] Okay.

[1:13:29] I need to tell the truth.

[1:13:34] Here's the truth.

[1:13:36] It was a lawsuit filed.

[1:13:37] Yes.

[1:13:38] Why would you just send them to not file a lawsuit?

[1:13:40] No, no, but she could have, she could have accepted Joe Rendee's offer that let those

[1:13:48] close by.

[1:13:49] It's dead.

[1:13:50] I don't know.

[1:13:51] Just continue.

[1:13:52] Just continue.

[1:13:53] Stop, David.

[1:13:56] Anyway, this is so disrespectful.

[1:13:59] After the hearing, I've never seen a public comment period where we've had town board members

[1:14:05] interrupting the speaker or where we've had people in the audience interrupting the speaker

[1:14:09] multiple times.

[1:14:10] I think we're starting to stop and please, please don't interrupt me.

[1:14:14] I think, I think, I think, I tack you my wife.

[1:14:17] Dave, can you please let people speak?

[1:14:20] This, we need to be able to have civil discourse where people... Dave, we need to be able

[1:14:27] to have civil discourse where people can speak, you can't interrupt people.

[1:14:31] Just pull it, just pull it.

[1:14:34] Can I let that, can I let by a finish please?

[1:14:38] So, you've got a minute 47, again, about the end of it is that those four boats, the people

[1:14:45] who put them in are their attorneys agreed to withdraw them.

[1:14:50] Now, you can think whatever you want, in my view, if they were a totally legitimate quote vote,

[1:14:57] which, by the way, had they been counted, Barbara would be...

[1:15:02] If they had been counted, she would be supervisor.

[1:15:06] They're doing a re-count.

[1:15:07] They are doing a re-count.

[1:15:11] Just let Mr. Green finish. Nobody make any comments.

[1:15:18] Let him finish. I can't keep hitting pause, and then hit the clock and pause.

[1:15:21] So Bob finished in the minute 17.

[1:15:25] Anyway, as a result of them being withdrawn,

[1:15:28] Jorandi is left with a three vote lead,

[1:15:31] which also, by the way, includes these two votes,

[1:15:33] which are counted even though they were legal.

[1:15:36] So right now, we don't know because there is a final recount.

[1:15:40] It is certainly possible that if there are a few votes

[1:15:45] that the machine did wrong,

[1:15:47] which is what they're trying to determine now.

[1:15:52] Barbara, the teacher, the decento could be supervisor completely illegally.

[1:15:59] So I think that that is a shame on this town.

[1:16:05] And I think we have to recognize this problem and do something about it in the future because

[1:16:13] I can't think of a worse situation where I have my vote stolen, and as you know, I know

[1:16:21] something about elections.

[1:16:22] I work pretty hard on the Rendy campaign.

[1:16:26] Did it completely up and up clean?

[1:16:28] And when I found out that a bunch of people came in and tried to slip on by the golly, I'm tremendously

[1:16:35] offended.

[1:16:39] Thank you, Bob.

[1:16:41] Nobody else, Bob.

[1:16:43] You pulled the boats.

[1:16:46] Who's next, Allison?

[1:16:49] Jane Clark.

[1:16:53] Folks, please, just be respectful.

[1:16:58] You can go to either microphone, Jen.

[1:17:00] Thank you.

[1:17:09] Thanks, Bob.

[1:17:14] Bob, can you take your board down, please?

[1:17:17] Yeah.

[1:17:17] Thank you, board down, please.

[1:17:25] I'm waiting for my heart to get back to a normal pace here.

[1:17:29] It's been a little routing in the corner.

[1:17:30] Bob, please cover it.

[1:17:34] We'll put it in the hallway.

[1:17:40] Jump.

[1:17:41] Thank you.

[1:17:41] My name is Jen Clark.

[1:17:44] I'd say I'm here for myself.

[1:17:47] And the fact that I am concerned about election integrity

[1:17:51] in the town of Northcastle.

[1:17:53] And I think I'm mostly here because I took my two children

[1:17:56] to vote with me before they left for school,

[1:17:59] the morning of the election.

[1:18:01] They're in kindergarten and second grade.

[1:18:03] And they can't wait to find out who won.

[1:18:05] And they know who we wanted to win, and I had an answer for them, and then I didn't have an answer, and then I had an answer, and then I didn't have an answer, and the story keeps going, and you know as parents, you have to realize this is the right time to teach your kids about certain things, and they're a little too young right now to know anything they, fortunately don't read what's going on on social media, and don't read the articles, but I do.

[1:18:32] And I could choose to believe whatever I want to believe,

[1:18:39] but just the fact that this

[1:18:40] is happening is disappointing, it's sad, and

[1:18:51] it does make me wonder, you know, at some

[1:18:53] point I'm going to be able to explain to my kids why maybe there just was this just

[1:18:57] this one vote and there's always this thing that your vote matters, your vote does my vote

[1:19:02] But, well, guess what, this time your vote really did matter, and I let my kids know that, you know, it could have been my, that was our vote guys. We went there and we voted.

[1:19:11] And here I am teaching my kids all about how voting works and how democracy works.

[1:19:16] And then all of a sudden it's like, Mommy, I thought you said this person one. Well, not so fast. Well, what happened?

[1:19:23] And then, my daughter said to me, well, Mommy, if you think you know, you know what's right or something, you should go stick up for yourself.

[1:19:31] And so I'm here today sticking up for myself on behalf of my children because I do believe that there was

[1:19:40] election fraud committed in the town of Northcastle. And anyone who doesn't believe there was

[1:19:45] voter fraud committed in the town of Northcastle is not seeing clearly. The stories make no sense and

[1:19:53] the stories we were asked to believe are almost equally as offensive as the fact that the frog was

[1:19:57] in the first place because it's how bad.

[1:20:00] All it's got from point eight to point B with this date and that date. I mean, you'd have to be a wonderful magician and pull off a lot of stuff.

[1:20:08] And, you know, I just, I really, I'm a person. I, I strongly believe in Mike. I know there have been times I've been up here and you've had to work very hard to be decent to me. And I've always respected that. And I've appreciated that. And it's for that reason. And I feel the same way about Allison, because those were the two parts of the story that stuck out to me.

[1:20:29] been living in this town for 10 years. I moved here before I was married before I had children.

[1:20:33] My husband grew up here and I never in a million years thought I would be standing here looking at

[1:20:40] the people in front of me feeling any sense of disappointment or anything other than, hey, this is

[1:20:47] my town board and I feel really proud and unfortunately, tonight I feel sad, second, disappointed,

[1:20:55] did discuss it and just shocked that there were people willing to sell their soul for something

[1:20:59] as small as a local election.

[1:21:01] So maybe your souls were already gone before today, but if they weren't, they are now.

[1:21:06] Thank you.

[1:21:07] Thanks, Jen.

[1:21:16] Thank you.

[1:21:17] I want to congratulate you on your retirement.

[1:21:20] I hope you really enjoy it.

[1:21:21] I know you're worth it.

[1:21:22] I know me too.

[1:21:23] I'm retired from IBM.

[1:21:24] I'm still working.

[1:21:25] Don't work.

[1:21:25] And ask my wife.

[1:21:26] But I'm a little disappointed in this election, I really am.

[1:21:32] And I would like to know Barbara, when did you know

[1:21:34] that the use for ballots were flawed?

[1:21:38] We supported you.

[1:21:42] First of all, we normally don't respond during public comment.

[1:21:49] But I totally disagree with what you're saying, and this is just not the appropriate venue

[1:21:57] to discuss this.

[1:21:59] I think there's a lot of misinformation that has been said tonight.

[1:22:03] There's been a lot of misinformation that has been stated in emails.

[1:22:07] And I think it's really very, very unfortunate.

[1:22:11] And I think that anyone that knows me,

[1:22:14] knows that I am known for my integrity and my honesty.

[1:22:20] And if you think that I wanted to be supervisor, so badly,

[1:22:24] that I would, as has been set in an email, orchestrated, voter fraud, then you don't know me, and I don't want to know you.

[1:22:49] Anybody else?

[1:22:50] Sue Schimer.

[1:22:52] Judge?

[1:22:54] Please remove this.

[1:23:02] I think Mark Thomas will not be controversial.

[1:23:06] I've heard about it already a little today.

[1:23:09] be evil.

[1:23:12] We can't hear him.

[1:23:14] Just talk a little louder, Judge.

[1:23:16] Can you hear me now?

[1:23:17] Okay.

[1:23:18] My comments are not going to be controversial.

[1:23:21] I think from what I've been hearing in the room.

[1:23:23] I'm going to talk about the eagle.

[1:23:27] The eagle, as is clear to everyone in this room,

[1:23:32] but perhaps not to our audience,

[1:23:36] is a tradition in our town.

[1:23:38] a signature landmark since 1976.

[1:23:43] I was here, and that's why I speak about it.

[1:23:47] For the 76 celebration, I participated.

[1:23:52] I spoke about freedom, about what our country can offer,

[1:23:59] and what we can offer to our country.

[1:24:02] I talked about the wonder of America, our political system,

[1:24:06] which gives everyone the right to participate,

[1:24:09] the right to vote, and how lucky we are.

[1:24:14] I asked that we rebuild that,

[1:24:16] and I'm sorry I have to use the word rebuild.

[1:24:21] And as a symbol of a new beginning,

[1:24:24] let us, what I heard in this room,

[1:24:26] is no disagreement, rebuild the eagle,

[1:24:32] which catastrophically, through man or otherwise,

[1:24:35] fell down. A detailed history of the

[1:24:39] eel can be found in the publication of the North

[1:24:42] Castle of Historical Society of 1996. It's available on the library. I suggest you read it.

[1:24:51] The idea for the eagle was developed by people who most of you don't know, but who I think were essential.

[1:25:00] To our town and to our town's history and through the evil and otherwise, our town's future was developed by Charles Elson, who designed staging for the Metropolitan Opera and ran the 76 celebration.

[1:25:20] It was designed by Arthur Soca in celebration of the 200th birthday of our country.

[1:25:29] Many were involved in its construction, Elson Soca, and John Shnoor, who did so much to help

[1:25:36] restore Smith's tavern on his own time.

[1:25:40] Small replicas were carved by Michael Gressel,

[1:25:44] if you may know the name, Gressel Place.

[1:25:48] Gressel was an award-winning internationally recognized

[1:25:51] sculptor.

[1:25:52] By 1991, the eagle had deteriorated badly.

[1:25:57] And a new eagle, the old one, was wood.

[1:26:01] Identical and appearance of the original,

[1:26:03] but not in wood, was carved and placed.

[1:26:11] Now let us not lose this history, let us not lose the symbol of our history, but it's

[1:26:21] sore, high as we move for a better world and a good town.

[1:26:29] Thank you.

[1:26:40] Anybody else on the list?

[1:26:41] Mary, are you, Lucy?

[1:26:42] Larry, take your microphone.

[1:26:58] Oh, you like it?

[1:27:03] I got two reports here.

[1:27:04] I'm going to go with one.

[1:27:05] No, no, no.

[1:27:06] I'll give you 30 seconds when you get the if you need that much time.

[1:27:09] No, I don't.

[1:27:10] No, I'm just going to go with the short one.

[1:27:13] First and foremost.

[1:27:15] Yeah, I'd like to thank you for your 16 years of service in this town.

[1:27:19] You know, working with you on the Budget and Finance Committee in the Planning Board,

[1:27:23] It's been great. We've done some good things up the last 13 years. Towns and a great place today in

[1:27:31] large part due to you. Thank you. You know, you've made a difference. And I thank you again.

[1:27:39] You know, I wish I could stop there, but I can't. So I'm gonna go on. With respect to the recent

[1:27:46] election, most of you know, I ran for town board. But I did not win. I'm okay with that. And I'm sure

[1:27:54] a lean who beat me by, I think, 32 votes, right?

[1:27:59] We'll continue to do a great job representing the town of North Castle.

[1:28:05] What I'm not okay with is a resident of this town making false allegations without knowing

[1:28:11] any of the facts or circumstances about my son's right to vote in this town.

[1:28:19] New York State election law clearly states that citizens with dual residences have the right to choose where they vote.

[1:28:30] My son has voted in what castle since he was 18 years old and will continue to do so until his circumstances change.

[1:28:38] His status under New York State election law has been confirmed by an election law and we are prepared to defend it in court.

[1:28:53] I could put a chart up there. I could put up names. I was so upset regarding the allegations concerning my son.

[1:29:04] I decided to take a look at the request for absentee ballots for the North Castle for all the absentee ballots for the North Castle,

[1:29:14] From town of Northcastle November 7th election, several wanted a detailed review.

[1:29:23] The result of that review, which included obtaining copies of documents from the rest

[1:29:29] just a board of election, and the engagement of a certified question document examiner,

[1:29:35] produced some very troubling results.

[1:29:39] This is not the right form to disclose detailed findings in names.

[1:29:45] I think it's inappropriate.

[1:29:47] The results we made public in due course and the hypocrisy is beyond belief.

[1:29:55] Thank you.

[1:29:55] Thank you, Larry.

[1:30:04] I'm B.L. Salis on the list.

[1:30:06] Bruce Weber.

[1:30:07] Bruce?

[1:30:09] You can pick your microphone, Bruce.

[1:30:18] All right, buddy.

[1:30:19] How are you?

[1:30:20] I'm good.

[1:30:21] My name is Bruce Weber.

[1:30:22] I've lived in town for 40 years.

[1:30:25] I've been the fire chief and a fire commissioner here in town.

[1:30:28] I'd like to thank Mike for listening to all of us.

[1:30:32] Not just the squeaky wheels, not just the politicians,

[1:30:36] or not just the voting blocks.

[1:30:39] you really tried to make our town a better place to live. I know it wasn't easy

[1:30:45] doing the right thing is never easy. Thank you very very much for all you've

[1:30:51] given to our town. Thank you.

[1:31:02] You know,

[1:31:07] Bob could you lay that down on the floor please.

[1:31:09] Thank you.

[1:31:15] Syvashalara members of the town board. My name is Neil Balman. I lived in our

[1:31:19] for 35 years, I've served as a volunteer in committees for sports leagues, the town, non-profit

[1:31:25] organizations, I'm no stranger to serving this town. I can see very clearly, and my soul is

[1:31:33] just fine. I've witnessed many elections in my 35 years in our monk into the best of my memory,

[1:31:40] I've voted in all of them, I've voted for Democrats and Republicans. There was a time in this town

[1:31:44] when people were honest in their campaigning, and when the election results came in,

[1:31:48] everybody expressed goodwill and focused on what was best for the town.

[1:31:53] Unfortunately, this is no longer the case for some people.

[1:31:57] What we are witnessing here this evening is a political retribution circus, a political

[1:32:02] attack designed to smear Mike Schillerl, a man who has served this town with distinction

[1:32:07] for 16 years as a councilman and supervisor.

[1:32:10] It is also designed to smear other good and dedicated people.

[1:32:13] They seek not just to win, but to politically smear and remove those who oppose them, and anyone who stands in the way of their agenda.

[1:32:24] These attacks are cleverly designed as a righteous ethical response to a perceived unethical act.

[1:32:31] Don't believe them.

[1:32:33] For 16 years, as a councilman and a supervisor, Michael Schillero has accomplished much, a Assemblyman verdict, listed all of them, and I won't repeat them.

[1:32:42] But now, but none of this now matters to a small group of politically active people in town.

[1:32:49] You see, for some people, might commit a political mortal sin.

[1:32:53] He reached across political lines and endorsed candidates for another party,

[1:32:57] causing a razor-thin election result.

[1:33:01] There were times in this town when both political parties endorsed each other in the same year.

[1:33:06] Mike Shaliro did this because he felt it was best for the town.

[1:33:10] Now, he and others are paying the price.

[1:33:13] So as everyone watches, these accusations unfold.

[1:33:16] It's important to understand what is behind all of this.

[1:33:20] For some, retribution, intimidation, and power is what this is all about.

[1:33:25] In fact, this group seeks to destroy the reputations of Supervisor Shaliro,

[1:33:30] Councilman, Degisanto, Town Clark Simon, and other dedicated town servants, like Larry

[1:33:35] or E.C.

[1:33:39] What this says more, what they're doing says far more negatively about their own

[1:33:45] character and motivation, not about the character and motivation to whom they assault.

[1:33:54] The people

[1:33:55] who are currently attacking your integrity and trying to drag you and your families through the mud

[1:33:59] will not succeed in the end. The majority of this town appreciates and supports you and the

[1:34:05] others who are being smeared.

[1:34:07] They view what is happening as vile, odious and disgraceful.

[1:34:12] The attacks will probably intensify and social media.

[1:34:17] I'll be on the enemies list of few of us in this room

[1:34:20] are already on it.

[1:34:22] But for those who know you all and the others being attacked,

[1:34:26] and truly understand what is happening,

[1:34:28] we stand with you against these falsehoods.

[1:34:31] And closing, I want to thank you, supervisor Schiller,

[1:34:33] for you many years of service to the town, for your hard work, your dedication, your sacrifice

[1:34:38] and for your integrity, and one final thing to say to you, Mike, and to your wonderful family.

[1:34:45] If I had to pick a few people from my three adult children to model themselves after,

[1:34:51] one of those people would be you. I would be pleased if all of them had your character,

[1:34:55] your integrity and your honesty. Thank you.

[1:35:09] Aye, nor are men really?

[1:35:13] Aye, nor are cans manually from North White Plains. I simply came here to say thank you.

[1:35:20] Thank you, Mike, for all you've done for the town of North Castle.

[1:35:24] But, especially close to my heart, I thank you for helping us to preserve a section of Mount Missouri in North White Plains.

[1:35:34] Mount Missouri is where our American Revolutionary War soldiers retreated to safety, to live, and fight another day.

[1:35:45] And that was the big turn in the American Revolutionary War.

[1:35:49] And so for that I want to give you a book written by Joseph Plum Martin.

[1:35:56] He was the soldier who had a miserable, awful, cold, wet night,

[1:36:02] He writes about it in this book, page 48, I marked it for you, and I also put in some newspaper articles from back in the 30s when they talked about preserving Mount Missouri and it didn't happen.

[1:36:21] It took decades later under a Mike's leadership for us to preserve a section of Mount Missouri.

[1:36:28] So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I can never thank you enough. Thank you.

[1:36:39] But that misery is preserved because of Nora. Yes.

[1:36:45] It's true because of Barbara D. Jacinto.

[1:36:50] That's true. Thank you.

[1:36:51] But thank you. I also want to thank you on behalf of my relatives that are no longer with us.

[1:36:58] But I know they're looking down and they're very happy too.

[1:37:02] Appreciate that. Thank you. Allison, if you were to pass that to my room, that's your copy of Mike.

[1:37:07] Thank you so much.

[1:37:08] You'll have time to read it now.

[1:37:10] Well, thank you again.

[1:37:13] Thank you.

[1:37:15] Allison, hello.

[1:37:16] Hello.

[1:37:18] That's for the sustainable.

[1:37:19] Oh, there you wait.

[1:37:20] Yeah, wait.

[1:37:21] You had a jack.

[1:37:23] Um, might for already?

[1:37:30] Well, it's been 50 years since I came to warm up for the same reason.

[1:37:35] mark that you came here.

[1:37:40] It's been a pleasure. Some of the times, not at all the time.

[1:37:46] To work with the ones that make up my family right next to you.

[1:37:50] I stand back.

[1:37:53] But I do want to thank you. We disagreed on a lot of things.

[1:37:57] But I can honestly say, well, my kids are better place than it was before you were super

[1:38:04] So, I thank you for all the things that you've done.

[1:38:10] I think of another great man that was Supervisor in his town, Jack Lombardi.

[1:38:16] And he reclosed second of anything he's done in his town as he was.

[1:38:25] I want to thank and congratulate the people who did get elected this election.

[1:38:32] It's

[1:38:35] clear that Jose and Celine won by a fair majority and congratulations to you.

[1:38:44] You weren't my choices to be publicly fried, but I say it the way it is.

[1:38:51] I always do.

[1:38:52] Mike, I don't think I can live with that.

[1:38:55] But any event I'm looking forward to working with you in a future.

[1:39:01] I do have other projects coming forward in the town.

[1:39:04] And hopefully I'll get your support, but whatever the cash may be, it is, what it is, in

[1:39:11] Barbara,

[1:39:14] I thank you also and Joe, whoever wins this election, I think because it's so

[1:39:22] close and it's just one boat apart, maybe two, maybe three, whatever the case may be.

[1:39:29] I think it's a real asset to our community that we were able to have a election that was so close,

[1:39:37] which means that we had two very qualified candidates.

[1:39:42] And that's what I've taken out of this election.

[1:39:45] I'm so sorry for all of the anger and the disparity that is coming through right now,

[1:39:55] and we've experienced that tonight as well.

[1:40:00] On Bob Green, for at least 40 years, I consider Bob a great guy, a great leader. And he has his ability and

[1:40:15] he has his thoughts that he needs to follow. And Larry, we see, I've known him for a lot of years. And I think

[1:40:25] He's a great guy, but there seems to be some improprietives, potentially, and they need to

[1:40:34] get shaken out for whatever they are.

[1:40:38] I hope the accusations that have been made are not true, but what I do know is that we

[1:40:46] need to go forward, and we need to go forward in the best way that we can.

[1:40:52] I don't want our town to be anything like what we see on Washington.

[1:41:00] Our town is better than that, and it needs to be worked on to continue in a positive

[1:41:08] way.

[1:41:08] Whoever the supervisor is going to pay, and I'm sure through the Board of Elections,

[1:41:22] the

[1:41:22] Dolly elected supervisor will be the supervisor.

[1:41:27] On another said, part, I go back with Jacqueline Barney when the ego had been put up.

[1:41:36] And Jack came to me and said, Mike, we need to light the ego and he gave me that job

[1:41:47] of getting the eagle lit,

[1:41:52] and after a period of time, we re-let it.

[1:41:56] So it's been, I've been somewhat familiar with the eagle for a long time.

[1:42:01] At the same time, the eagle right outside the front entrance of our town hall.

[1:42:07] Thirty seconds, Mike.

[1:42:09] I also hung, which was done by a guy who the sculptor was, but we were in a residential

[1:42:16] community. I'd like to ask the board and you if I could be responsible for getting the

[1:42:26] Eagle Rehong and Re-let. And I think

[1:42:32] I'd like to take that responsibility on and I'd like

[1:42:38] to, I'm this point forward, if I should be able to get that done. It'll remind me of this

[1:42:47] tonight. And I think it should become a new beginning for a town. And let's bury the hatchet.

[1:42:54] Let's bury all this animosity and anger that we've seen here tonight. Our town is better than it.

[1:43:04] So that's what I ask you tonight. Your town board, if you'll give me your authority to get it done,

[1:43:10] I would appreciate it. Thank you, Mike.

[1:43:18] I'll leave that to 2024.

[1:43:24] I

[1:43:31] want to meet five minutes, I don't put you on the clock.

[1:43:35] Let me on the clock.

[1:43:37] Let me get these glasses out of you.

[1:43:40] Mike, members of the town board.

[1:43:42] Thank you for your service.

[1:43:44] And thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.

[1:43:46] My name is Rockler Trano.

[1:43:48] I'm a resident of Armok for 32 years.

[1:43:51] I'm also a business owner in Armok.

[1:43:53] I'm a prisoner of St. Pat's Church with Mike.

[1:43:55] And I served on the Paris Council, the CYO Board, and many other committees.

[1:44:00] I'm also the past Board Member of the Armant Little League, which I served for 10 years,

[1:44:06] and three of those years as commissioner.

[1:44:12] I'm not here tonight to talk about elections.

[1:44:15] I'm not here to talk about any town business.

[1:44:19] I'm here tonight to specifically honor my friend Mike.

[1:44:22] we like Mike.

[1:44:26] I first wanted to thank Laurie, Paul, Emma, Gina, for lending us Mike for

[1:44:33] the last 16 years. The sacrifice you've all made through the years are immeasurable.

[1:44:39] Thank you all and I love you. I've known Mike for 20 plus years and it's been an honor

[1:44:46] call him my friend. I've never met a person with such passion about everything he does.

[1:44:55] And he showed it over the last 16 years in how he served this town.

[1:45:00] When Mike took over a supervisor, I was very upset, because he spoiled a source of entertainment for me.

[1:45:08] Prior to Mike being a supervisor, I would watch town board meetings because they were very entertaining to say the least.

[1:45:17] When Mike took over, he made the meetings boring. There was no drama, no arguing, just business as usual.

[1:45:26] Michael always respected his fellow board members, even if he did not agree with them or

[1:45:32] anything they said. Respect is the key word there, and Michael lives his life with that

[1:45:41] for all. Mike has been an amazing supervisor, and we are all better now that he is, we are

[1:45:49] all better now than when he took over.

[1:45:54] Barbara said it before, I'm just going to reiterate,

[1:45:56] Mike's license plate does say be decent, a phrase that he learned from his father, and I remember

[1:46:03] when Mike told me the story about how his dad would just say be decent. It's not that hard.

[1:46:11] He lives his life every day by that motto, and if we could all learn one thing from Mike,

[1:46:17] it would be just be decent. Mike, I just want to say thank you again, and I'm looking forward

[1:46:24] to more free time so we can play some more golf we can have some more cigars and

[1:46:30] bourbon and just enjoy life a little bit more you deserve a pal I love you.

[1:46:46] A couple more George Friedman.

[1:46:57] Thank you.

[1:46:59] My name is George Friedman.

[1:47:00] I've been a 10 resident here for about 23 years raised my family here.

[1:47:04] I love the place.

[1:47:06] I've never read you before but everything I see I've done a hell of a job and you have a lot of friends

[1:47:10] a lot of supporters. That's a very good reflection on you. God bless you and your family.

[1:47:15] All right. So I'm here not being a party to either sides of this equation or this dilemma,

[1:47:22] but I'm here to offer, first of all, most of the character reference to Alps and Simon,

[1:47:26] who I've had the pleasure of knowing for the whole time I've been here all along for 22 years.

[1:47:31] This is easy. The reason this is easy is because to get up here and say something that's highly

[1:47:36] Flattering of Allison. This is easy to do. I've known her for a long time. She's raised

[1:47:42] it impeccable, family, and I'll tell you, we'll all be a lot better off if there were

[1:47:46] a hell of a lot more people out there like Allison Simon. So see, you're denigrated in this

[1:47:51] manner, is absurd. If there's any documentation, could we report up to bear, that could

[1:47:57] any in any way shape or form prove that she isn't guilty of any complexity or any duplicity

[1:48:02] do any other nonsense in the election fraud, I'd love to see it, because having worked

[1:48:08] in the news media business for a long time, I can tell you, I'll take a very skeptical

[1:48:12] eye to it.

[1:48:17] I don't know who had where what and when, but if there's any kind of documented tribulations

[1:48:25] that are brought to bear here, that in any way shape a form impacts Alison, people guilty

[1:48:31] of it, she'd be forced to resign and then to do so in disgrace.

[1:48:36] Simple as that.

[1:48:37] Allison is one of the finest people I know.

[1:48:39] She's raised an impeccable family.

[1:48:41] She, I mean, here, the biggest compliment I could play someone is simply this.

[1:48:45] I'd be honored if my son was so lucky to marry someone like Allison Simon.

[1:48:49] Simple as that.

[1:48:49] I can't be any more.

[1:48:51] I can't be any more blunder dread than that.

[1:48:54] I'd be honored if my son could marry someone like this.

[1:48:57] And I don't know what else I can say that,

[1:48:58] that could just prop up the character of this very fine room

[1:49:02] as absolutely no business being maligned

[1:49:05] over anything by anybody, and you can take that to the back.

[1:49:09] Thank you.

[1:49:11] Thank you.

[1:49:17] Thank you.

[1:49:18] What was the name?

[1:49:19] Donna Friedman.

[1:49:23] Hello, I'm Donna Friedman.

[1:49:26] Mike, I've gotten to know you through your emails.

[1:49:30] I love how you end them with your dog and your family

[1:49:33] and lots of locking your future endeavors.

[1:49:35] As my husband said, everything that's been said about you has reflected really one flight.

[1:49:44] I'm also here to support my friend, Allison Simon. Allison is a pillar of the community at every level.

[1:49:53] Whether it was a school function, whether it was a team function, if it was a football game, basketball game, she was her first.

[1:50:00] First one, servant, food, standing out in the cold, given her scarf to somebody at every level,

[1:50:06] Allison has always been the most selfless person I know. In our religious community, Allison

[1:50:12] attends every service, her and her husband have visited Russia and collected items to give to orphans,

[1:50:23] they visited orphans, they take people in, they are so charitable. I've never seen a family

[1:50:29] give of themselves so much.

[1:50:34] Therefore, children, one is more impeccable than the other,

[1:50:38] one is more impressive than the other.

[1:50:40] Allison is also not only charitable with her time,

[1:50:47] but she's charitable in every way.

[1:50:51] And I have to say everything that was said is just,

[1:50:57] it can't be true. I can't even believe it.

[1:50:59] I'll take a page out of my cousin to any playbook, go in the back there and find my signature.

[1:51:06] Go find my signature from 2014 and compare to 2023. I assure you that they are not going to look alike.

[1:51:17] It's the craziest thing. The kids are in high school when they sign these things.

[1:51:21] My signature changes from week to week.

[1:51:23] And believe me, my signature is awful.

[1:51:25] But I cannot say enough about how impressive a person else in Simon is.

[1:51:34] I can't imagine anyone saying anything bad about Allison and Mr. Greene, you are way off.

[1:51:55] You had your five minutes, Mark?

[1:51:57] It was in the firm, Mark.

[1:51:59] Linda?

[1:52:06] Thank you very much for fitting me.

[1:52:09] I didn't start the clock yet.

[1:52:11] Wait, I got to get the picture.

[1:52:12] You're going to take your time.

[1:52:18] Got here a little late.

[1:52:19] Was that another function?

[1:52:22] So I'm glad I did get a chance to speak though, although I'm a little

[1:52:25] He surprised he didn't really get going yet.

[1:52:30] Right.

[1:52:30] Now you're on.

[1:52:31] Now I'm on.

[1:52:33] So I've been on the board on the Northcastle Democratic Committee for 14 years,

[1:52:40] joins in 2010.

[1:52:42] And Mike was already sitting as a board member.

[1:52:46] And then 10 years ago, as my neighbor, Rocco, referred to watching town board meetings, I say people watch them for sport.

[1:52:58] And there was a lot of instability and Mike, along with Barry Reiter, and Jose, and Barbara.

[1:53:07] We ran a cohesive campaign,

[1:53:14] sorry, to bring sanity back to this ten.

[1:53:19] Well, Rocco says meetings are boring now, it's true, but it was necessary.

[1:53:25] And, you know, Mike served through two financial meltdowns.

[1:53:28] Think about it, you know, you think about what's happened in the last,

[1:53:32] I went to what it was born in 2000, so 23 years.

[1:53:37] And I've been a resident here for 35 years now, this was Santa.

[1:53:47] We've been through a lot in the last 20-some odd years, and our town is doing very well.

[1:53:57] And Mike's the reason why his calm head, let me go back to where his bourbon was, the supervise

[1:54:05] when you first on the board, but Mike's calm head and financial sensibility has led this

[1:54:13] town for the last 10 years.

[1:54:17] No, and 14, 16 total, the first meltdown was when he was still a board member.

[1:54:24] So being a political junkie and having a degree in political science and having worked

[1:54:31] on, probably close to, or at least 20 campaigns in my lifetime.

[1:54:36] When Mike first got elected, I called it the Shaleero effect.

[1:54:41] And it's because of his reputation, not just his reputation,

[1:54:47] his relationships with people, same paths, sports, and C4.

[1:54:53] I'm sure there are plenty of Republicans that

[1:54:55] for you, conservatives, Democrats, and everybody in...

[1:55:00] In between and whatever. And working on your behalf to get you elected has always been a joy.

[1:55:11] So I told you, I wish you were hanging around for two more years. That was my wish as the chair co-chair. I was then chair, now co-chair of the committee of the Democrats. And I understand you have to leave some time and you know.

[1:55:30] with regret for us, but I'm glad that you can get on with your life and having to live it.

[1:55:37] I always usually start by thanking your wife and your children, because I grew up in a family

[1:55:45] where, from the time I was four to 10, my mom worked for Dick Onger, he was congressman.

[1:55:51] And I remember her always being on the phone and always being going to a meeting and always going somewhere

[1:55:56] and I lived in campaign court headquarters.

[1:55:58] My mother was the district representative for him,

[1:56:01] so I lived in his offices.

[1:56:04] And it's all encompassing and all consuming.

[1:56:08] And it's a different way of life and it can be hard.

[1:56:13] But I also want to say, I wasn't here earlier,

[1:56:17] so I didn't see what's been presented.

[1:56:19] but I

[1:56:24] choose not to judge somebody by one thing in their life that

[1:56:37] the totality of your 16 years

[1:56:41] in this town should serve for a lot. And I've had other people in my life that may badness

[1:56:50] take, but there's still my friends, and I hope you, I'm sure you will repay my friend.

[1:57:00] So I urge people, 30, okay.

[1:57:03] So I just urge people to think of the totality of Mike's career here, how much he helped

[1:57:11] this town, and anybody, anybody who has something in their life that went wrong, made

[1:57:20] mistake, however you want to put it, I choose not to judge somebody by their worst moment,

[1:57:27] but by all their pest moments, and I'll leave with that.

[1:57:31] Thank you.

[1:57:45] That's it.

[1:57:47] I'd like to say one thing.

[1:57:49] Sure.

[1:57:49] I'd like to.

[1:57:50] This is something I've shared with people close to me.

[1:57:53] I haven't shared publicly.

[1:57:56] But I think it might give you an example of who I am.

[1:57:59] those of you that question my integrity. Sunday night before election, Monday night before

[1:58:06] election day, I received a text from someone very close to me. In the person wrote,

[1:58:13] I am going to be at the polls at 6 a.m. to vote for you because I have a busy day and I don't

[1:58:21] want to miss voting.

[1:58:25] And my response was, and it was too late to call the person by the time I saw

[1:58:29] text, my response and all caps was, do not vote until we speak tomorrow morning, call me

[1:58:39] as soon as you get up. And so the person did.

[1:58:45] And I say to the person, you know, we have

[1:58:47] had this argument,

[1:58:51] your address with the Board of Elections in Northcastle is not your address

[1:59:00] now. If you don't get this straightened out before 9 p.m. tonight, I don't want you voting for me.

[1:59:09] I don't want any controversy about any vote connected to me. And I said, if you want,

[1:59:17] the press was, well, I stop. Don't vote for me. And so what I did was I called the Board of

[1:59:23] at 9 o'clock, explain the situation. They said, tell this person to go to this voting place,

[1:59:34] and this person will vote by affidavit ballot. It took about a half an hour, 45 minutes. I

[1:59:41] heard all the grumbling afterwards, but nevertheless, this person voted the way he should have voted

[1:59:49] from using his correct address using the correct pole.

[1:59:56] And I think about it. Could I have lost a vote? Absolutely.

[2:00:00] And would I be grudge that? No, I would not. Because that's who I am. I am straight as an arrow. And so it really bothers me when people think that I have orchestrated voter fraud that I've turned a blind eye. Once again, it's not who I am. And I don't think it's what Northcastle was all about. Thank you.

[2:00:35] Anybody else want to say anything before we move on?

[2:00:38] I'll say something.

[2:00:40] So I was at the hearings.

[2:00:44] For the case that Joe brought, I attended both days.

[2:00:47] There was Tuesday, which ran basically all day with breaks in between.

[2:00:52] And there was also Friday, after Tuesday, we ended up going to the Board of Elections

[2:00:58] And ballots were counted except the ones that were set aside.

[2:01:02] And the reason they were set aside is the judge ruled on the record

[2:01:05] that there was clear and convincing evidence of the reputable harm

[2:01:09] to the plaintiff cell.

[2:01:10] Judge did not rule that.

[2:01:12] The judge did not rule that.

[2:01:15] I'm not going to allow him to lie on the Senate.

[2:01:18] This is unacceptable.

[2:01:19] But I'm finished.

[2:01:20] It's time for it, member.

[2:01:21] And he's lying.

[2:01:22] But I'm finished.

[2:01:23] He's not making that ruling.

[2:01:25] Why would I let him finish?

[2:01:27] He's lying.

[2:01:28] Let him finish, and then you can make your comment.

[2:01:30] You were there.

[2:01:30] You were supporting Joe.

[2:01:32] I saw you there the whole time.

[2:01:34] But you were not.

[2:01:35] The judge did not make a ruling.

[2:01:37] On the record, they did Tuesday afternoon.

[2:01:39] It's in the transcript.

[2:01:41] Didn't make a ruling.

[2:01:42] So, went to the board of elections.

[2:01:46] And all the ballots, except for four or five,

[2:01:48] if we get how many of us were counted.

[2:01:51] and Joe went up from being one up to three up.

[2:01:55] So I agree with some aspects of what a couple of people, in particular, said,

[2:02:00] I like Sue Miller's message.

[2:02:02] I think social media can be terrible in terms of distorting things.

[2:02:08] Why didn't you stop it?

[2:02:09] I didn't do anything with it.

[2:02:11] I'm not an social media.

[2:02:13] It's not.

[2:02:14] My unayne name, I don't think.

[2:02:16] But there's a way that you could have stopped it.

[2:02:24] Anyway, I don't think I really could have stopped it, and I'm not sure it really should have

[2:02:29] been stopped.

[2:02:30] So I also think that we need to move forward.

[2:02:33] The other person I agree with in part is Mike Ferrari.

[2:02:37] He and I, I think we could say pretty safely, don't always agree, but I think it's important

[2:02:45] And to go ahead, first we said, I think need to shake things out, need to have things

[2:02:51] shaken out, but we need to move forward.

[2:02:54] In my view, I think it's easier to do that if people honestly confront what actually happened.

[2:03:06] So, I think a lot of, excuse me, Bob Greena's saying is accurate, and I think it's important

[2:03:16] for us to really get the bottom of it because this is something really serious.

[2:03:21] So, you're using Susan, do you want to come?

[2:03:23] The authority on the board to disseminate improper information, it's noted, you're lying to

[2:03:33] public on the board. Using your position of authority. Another level of harassment. Thank you.

[2:03:42] Thank you, Jose. I read the transcripts.

[2:03:46] Michael, I'm not, I'm not done. One second. Dave, one second. Thank you.

[2:03:51] Jose, you have more to say? How much time do I have left?

[2:03:54] Oh, actually, I'm not. I'm not on a public comment, so you can comment.

[2:03:57] Right. So anyway, I'm all for moving forward. But when there are serious problems,

[2:04:03] I think it's important to confront it, and I think everybody should read the transcript.

[2:04:08] I'll let go ahead and I might come back afterwards.

[2:04:20] Did you want to speak?

[2:04:21] Yes, I do.

[2:04:26] On 1231.

[2:04:27] What's this one saying?

[2:04:29] We don't want to talk about his attack on?

[2:04:31] I don't.

[2:04:37] So.

[2:04:40] You just have to come up, tell us who you are.

[2:04:42] Yeah, sure.

[2:04:43] My name's John Schneider.

[2:04:45] First time here, I don't believe I know anybody in your new gear, so I think I come from

[2:04:54] this with a perspective of not knowing any of the parties involved.

[2:05:01] So, my question, I don't know if this can be a Q&A, but where are we?

[2:05:05] Not it's a public comment. My concern is that I'm not quite sure where we are in this process.

[2:05:11] Hearing both sides, both arguments, and not sure if this is being settled by a judge, or if this is being settled by the board, or where we are in this process.

[2:05:21] So from a concern, citizen of the town, who is not as politically active as perhaps many of you are,

[2:05:28] I'm concerned about where we're going from here and what the process is from here.

[2:05:32] I have a feeling that there are a lot of people in town like me that don't know what's

[2:05:35] going on and perhaps further clarification would be helpful.

[2:05:39] And one thing that's from my concern, because I don't know you or you or you and the testimony

[2:05:47] that we've heard from everybody, is incredibly beautiful for all three of you and I admire

[2:05:52] what you guys have done and what's been said about you.

[2:05:55] But, quite frankly, it's almost irrelevant if there's been an issue or if there's been a,

[2:06:02] I want to say, crime, but a deception that went on. I hope that's not the case.

[2:06:08] I hope that's not the truth, but I would imagine that a judge or someone in a higher office would

[2:06:15] there's a kind of an election official or something like that that could sell this once in

[2:06:19] So, I hope it thick the tensions and the emotions should be removed and it should be settled by an election official.

[2:06:26] That's quite

[2:06:29] tough.

[2:06:29] So, not a response to that, but you want to just give it up because I don't know the update from the board of elections.

[2:06:35] The Board of Elections in white planes began a recount today, and I did not attend, but my attorney did.

[2:06:44] And my understanding is at the end of the day,

[2:06:47] they had only done voting districts 1, 2, 3, and 4.

[2:06:53] There was no change, and therefore, my opponent is still leading by three votes.

[2:07:01] You're at a time when, I'm sorry, you can come back at the end of the week.

[2:07:04] Can I explain what's going on?

[2:07:06] No, no.

[2:07:06] Why doesn't Joe?

[2:07:08] He can.

[2:07:09] If he wants to speak, raise my hand.

[2:07:17] It's telling everybody he or her job?

[2:07:19] Yeah, I will.

[2:07:21] Joseph Rundee, 25 Smith Farm Road.

[2:07:25] So I came tonight really to listen.

[2:07:29] I wasn't planning on speaking.

[2:07:32] There were several inaccuracies on what transpired.

[2:07:40] So I'd like to maybe try to put some of those issues to rest.

[2:07:47] On election night at just before 12 midnight, our last communication with the Board of

[2:07:56] Elections had me leading at that moment by 11 votes.

[2:08:04] We were of the understanding that the Board of Elections would not start counting any absentee ballots

[2:08:13] or affidavit ballots that had already been in the possession of the Board of Elections until some time later that week.

[2:08:24] In election law, there's a ruling, which call is referred to as the seven day ruling, which means that seven days after the election, whatever ballots were collected up until that point, then would be counted on that seven day, so that would have brought it to the 14th of November.

[2:08:51] loan behold when we woke up on Wednesday morning my lead had gone from 11 votes to one vote.

[2:09:03] Immediately we started to look at the absentee ballots to take a look and see which is very normal in any election.

[2:09:13] But it's especially very normal in a race that's only separating the two of us by one vote.

[2:09:24] I want to preface something.

[2:09:29] We work very hard both Barbara and myself to gain your support.

[2:09:36] We both believe in our town.

[2:09:39] We both love this community.

[2:09:40] I can't imagine that anyone would put themselves through this and face sometimes the public criticism that we face as candidates if we didn't have a desire to serve and a love for our community.

[2:10:02] I took responsibility in hiring an election law attorney, and we started to look at the absentee ballots of what were out there.

[2:10:20] And on Thursday evening, after leaving my attorneys, I had discovered, or we had discovered

[2:10:30] collectively, that there were three ballots that we felt were in question.

[2:10:35] And we felt that those ballots were in question, not because merely because of their appearance,

[2:10:41] But the fact that we understood that those ballots were presented by people who no longer lived in town.

[2:10:54] Now, a comment was made tonight that you could have two residents, and that's true.

[2:11:02] You could have a temporary residence and a permanent residence.

[2:11:06] election law very clearly states that you vote from your permanent

[2:11:11] residents and not from your secondary residents. There are many people who have

[2:11:18] that set up. That's very true.

[2:11:21] Joe, you just one minute. Okay.

[2:11:24] And if I go over Mike, I would appreciate just a little bit of courtesy that way.

[2:11:28] A couple of seconds. I'm going to be fair to everybody.

[2:11:30] for 16 years, so I never changed the rules.

[2:11:34] So, I had reached out to Barbara on Thursday evening.

[2:11:39] You'd have to be about 10 o'clock at night.

[2:11:41] 10 19, part of me?

[2:11:43] 10 19.

[2:11:44] 10 19.

[2:11:45] I remember that's pretty late.

[2:11:46] And my suggestion to Barbara was, and I told her how trouble I was,

[2:11:53] because in fact, I really was troubled by this.

[2:11:56] And I said that at that moment,

[2:11:58] We had definitely identified three ballots, who the ballots were, and what we felt were wrong

[2:12:06] with the ballots.

[2:12:08] And my suggestion was, let's stipulate the two of us as candidates, which we perfectly

[2:12:15] could have done, let's go into Board of Elections on Tuesday for the meeting for the counting

[2:12:21] of the remaining ballots, we'll stipulate the whole of those three aside so that no

[2:12:27] gets injured. Let's count the remaining ballots. Let's see what we are numerically. And if

[2:12:34] neither one of us needs those three ballots, we walk away from this and we're done. Either

[2:12:40] you're the winner, on the winner, you're the winner, on the loser. It doesn't make a difference

[2:12:46] to me. But let's hold off those three ballots. So, and this is the outcome that I was fearful of.

[2:12:54] because I knew in my mind that those ballots that would be questioned once we went

[2:13:02] into open court would become the genie that's let out of the bottle that no one

[2:13:09] not me, not Barbara, no one can put back in. And I was fearful that the community

[2:13:19] would be severely damaged, and that potentially we could be jeopardizing the lives of people

[2:13:28] that unbeknownst to them may have had ballots that they didn't realize should not have been

[2:13:35] submitted. And I tried to do that. I reached out when I got no response from Barbara on whether

[2:13:43] or not she thought that was a good idea. I then reached out to Mike, because I felt that Mike

[2:13:48] Maybe would understand it differently, and maybe he would be able to convince Barbara that this might have been a good thing to do, again, to know a veil.

[2:14:00] I did also reach out to Allison, and I left her two messages on her voice mail.

[2:14:07] To know a veil, I got no phone call back.

[2:14:09] Joe 5 seconds. But believe me. And I say this with all the sincerity that I have. I did not

[2:14:19] want to see us as a community come to this point. Thank you.

[2:14:28] My only concern because I just

[2:14:30] heard a comment on someone. My only concern and my concern still today is the integrity of

[2:14:38] your supervisor. You can have your own rules for public comment. You don't make your rules

[2:14:42] Okay, I just leave you next to minute and a half I would just like anybody else next to can I finish my five minutes

[2:14:49] I'm sorry, we're not letting just people we're letting speak for five minutes. I was gonna do this tonight

[2:14:58] But I feel it's necessary

[2:15:00] I'm sorry I have to do this. Three members of a Northcastle family designated Joe Rendy as their agent to pick up their

[2:15:09] absentee ballots from the Westchester Board of Elections. The ballots were issued to Joe Rendy on 1231 on 1031

[2:15:16] Halloween, and we return to the Board of Elections on November 3, and November 6. Upon further investigation,

[2:15:27] the following was discovered. A simple search of the Internet indicated that one of the

[2:15:33] individuals currently lives in New York City with their spouse. Another one of the individuals

[2:15:38] just took a job in New York City which requires residency in New York City for the first two years

[2:15:45] of employment. The ATT ballots were issued on Halloween 1031-23, yet all ATT ballots,

[2:15:54] envelope were dated 10, 30, 23, the day before they were issued. The stake probably all

[2:16:03] three? I don't know. The following documents were requested and received from the West

[2:16:08] Chester Board of Elections for all three individuals. The voter registration card, which

[2:16:14] is a document submitted at the time, one registers to vote, two, the request for the absentee

[2:16:20] ballot and three of the absentee ballot envelope. Each of these documents has a date and a

[2:16:26] signature. The documents were submitted to a certified question document examiner and a court

[2:16:34] qualified expert witness. This expert witness has specified in more than 50 court cases. The

[2:16:40] findings are as it follows. In each of the three cases, the signature on the absentee ballot envelope

[2:16:46] did not match the signature on the voter registration card.

[2:16:50] In one case, the signature on the absentee ballot request

[2:16:54] did not match the signature on the voter registration card.

[2:17:00] The quote from the certified document examiner.

[2:17:03] In my expert opinion with a reasonable degree of certainty,

[2:17:06] the signature appears to be fictitious and are not considered

[2:17:10] consistent with the signatures on the voter registration card.

[2:17:13] Thank you, Eric.

[2:17:14] clear, I don't make any accusations, but this needs to be looked at.

[2:17:27] I just like to clarify one thing, and that is that once a person's vote is in the hands

[2:17:39] of the Board of Elections, a person, Joe Randian, I couldn't go to the Board of Elections

[2:17:46] and say, please don't count these votes.

[2:17:50] That's just not right to say that we had that ability.

[2:17:55] We didn't.

[2:17:59] Any other comments?

[2:18:00] Otherwise, we can move on with the agenda.

[2:18:02] I'm just going to finish up simply because they've

[2:18:08] Simon's alerted it out three times, and then a little bit more

[2:18:11] half time.

[2:18:13] He accused me of attacking Allison Simon.

[2:18:16] I believe that's his words.

[2:18:18] I can tell you that is not true, and anyway, the standard for defamation is not worth going into.

[2:18:29] Mike, you and I probably share something in that.

[2:18:31] Your brother worked for President Obama.

[2:18:33] Professor, I took first amendment long, law school from also did.

[2:18:37] Okay, I have some steam.

[2:18:38] But anyway, it's a very high standard.

[2:18:40] It may well have been met.

[2:18:42] I want to move forward on these things.

[2:18:43] But I will clearly, I don't even know who it is not true.

[2:18:49] He may be referring to an instance.

[2:18:52] There was a town board meeting on September 22, 2021.

[2:18:57] When I spoke about masks, we were in the midst of COVID.

[2:19:02] And I told Barbara that she should set a good example,

[2:19:05] and also asked that she were a mask and in passing also Allison.

[2:19:10] So you can watch that if you want an MCTV

[2:19:12] and make your own judgments, it's around time marker 40.

[2:19:17] And that's what I'll say.

[2:19:18] I think we should, it's very important that I think we resolve this.

[2:19:26] I don't believe in sweeping important things under the carpet,

[2:19:31] but then this is a very important thing, but it's also important we move on as a town.

[2:19:35] I would just like to add that when you verbally attacked Allison and myself

[2:19:40] for not wearing masks, the town policy was for elected officials for town employees, if we were fully vaccinated and we gave proof to the town administrator wearing a mask was optional.

[2:20:00] I'm not going to respond to that and any deep people can do that. Judge.

[2:20:08] Very briefly. I chose to speak about the

[2:20:12] eagle. And if you listen to my words, they were about coming together. And clearly, they're

[2:20:24] may well have been significant issues with respect to the last election. But if we harp on them,

[2:20:33] If we continue to talk about them, if we argue as to whether they existed, what are we doing

[2:20:44] to the future of this town,

[2:20:48] not making it better, we're going to be at war with each other.

[2:20:53] And that's all I hear, as I said here.

[2:20:57] I hear animosity, neighbor, against neighbor.

[2:21:03] We have enough problems in the world.

[2:21:06] Enough problems in this country, problems in this state.

[2:21:12] We're going to have a result from the Board of Elections.

[2:21:16] We're going to live with it, whichever side we vote it for, or in this case, individual

[2:21:23] for supervisor, because it's town board members were chosen.

[2:21:30] Let us think of what's best for our town if there is anything else wrong, it is not for us the citizens to delve into that.

[2:21:42] There are systems to that, but there are not, or a discussion, by the community, which only says one of us against another.

[2:21:52] So, I ask that you look at your neighbor and don't think how does he feel about this election.

[2:22:05] Ten seconds.

[2:22:06] That is for others pretending it is not for a community fight, which is what I hear.

[2:22:16] So, try to think of the symbolism of the eagle.

[2:22:21] And the meaning of Northcastle to you before this, thank you.

[2:22:26] Thank you, guys.

[2:22:30] Thanks, Sue.

[2:22:30] And have no fear that the tout board will move forward for the town.

[2:22:41] So you're all welcome to stay for the two hearings we have,

[2:22:43] the budget hearing and the ethics hearing,

[2:22:47] and the rest of our agenda, or you can leave it at your choice.

[2:22:53] I don't know that it's going to be that long.

[2:23:00] When I was going to ask the board in, you know, to a point in its work.

[2:23:17] I saw her here before.

[2:23:25] This is a nice dress.

[2:23:28] Let's give us a second.

[2:23:29] People, you're going to leave.

[2:23:31] Should I go first?

[2:23:33] No, it's just...

[2:23:34] I'm fine.

[2:23:36] I'm fine.

[2:23:37] No, I'm fine.

[2:23:42] I'm fine.

[2:23:44] I'm fine.

[2:23:48] I'm fine.

[2:23:49] Take it back five, I'm not gonna look at it.

[2:23:53] Take the whole thing, Bob.

[2:23:57] I'll take a look at Bob. I'll take one.

[2:23:59] Matt may want it.

[2:24:00] Yeah. He else is not the ability.

[2:24:01] Let's somebody else into your audience wants it.

[2:24:04] Thank you.

[2:24:06] There you got plenty of puppies.

[2:24:11] I remember when I was a kid,

[2:24:14] You're right, copiers were the only copiers and you had to put it to the end of the time here's the plastic

[2:24:25] Thank you

[2:24:30] Someone asked the board if we can move up person elf six part of the record high

[2:24:40] The board's okay with that. We have one bomb. We have charities here too

[2:24:43] If we can move up six, eight, six, six, five, two appointments that are right board.

[2:24:48] Sure, in case they don't want to wait around.

[2:24:51] So the first one is considering the appointment of charity London to the Board of Ethics

[2:24:54] for a five-year term to expire November 21st, 2028 charities been on the...

[2:25:00] Thank you. Alternate list. And we appreciate that she's willing to serve on the ethics board. So any comments or questions?

[2:25:06] I'm very happy she decided to go ahead and devote the time.

[2:25:12] It's not always a heavy lift, but they've been working very hard last year in this year.

[2:25:16] So I would like to make the motion to appoint charity as a regular member of the Board of Ethics.

[2:25:21] Well, just reserve the right for any other board members. Okay.

[2:25:23] or anybody in the audience. Anybody else?

[2:25:27] Was that your minute motion?

[2:25:28] I was a motion.

[2:25:29] I'll second a charity thank you for continuing

[2:25:31] to step up from alternate to full member.

[2:25:35] Don't let it go to your head.

[2:25:36] On favor?

[2:25:37] Hi.

[2:25:39] Next item is consider the appointment of finished

[2:25:41] Shemtab as an alternate to the Board of Ethics

[2:25:43] and we appreciate her willingness to serve

[2:25:45] any comments or questions.

[2:25:47] Can we just, I think,

[2:25:48] some people would have had difficulty hearing

[2:25:49] the last decision.

[2:25:52] So, is the possible to just repeat?

[2:25:54] For charity?

[2:25:55] Yes.

[2:25:56] So, we just made a motion in a second to a point charity

[2:25:58] Lundor to the Board of Ethics.

[2:26:00] The full board, she's been serving as an alternate

[2:26:02] and now we're promoting her to the full-ethics board.

[2:26:07] And that was moved second and unanimously.

[2:26:10] The second is the appointment of Penny Shemtab

[2:26:13] as an alternate to the Board of Ethics.

[2:26:15] We'll make that motion.

[2:26:17] I'll make that motion.

[2:26:20] Thank you.

[2:26:23] Thank you.

[2:26:23] Thank you, sir.

[2:26:28] So now let's go to the first hearing, which is,

[2:26:32] I need a motion to reconvene the 2024 town in special districts

[2:26:35] Plenary budgets.

[2:26:37] I'm going to hear a motion.

[2:26:38] I'll make that motion.

[2:26:40] There are second.

[2:26:40] I'll second.

[2:26:41] All in favor.

[2:26:42] All right.

[2:26:42] Thank you.

[2:26:43] So we've received the budget two meetings ago.

[2:26:45] We have our Director of Finance here at Buster.

[2:26:48] We open the hearing at our last meeting.

[2:26:51] And summary, the budget is a 0% tax increase, which we're happy about and proud of on this budget.

[2:26:58] And it's a very, it's a structurally balanced budget.

[2:27:02] And the director of finances here, if there's any questions, we normally hold the hearing.

[2:27:08] We adjourn for the second, the only meeting in December, in case there's any residents who had any questions.

[2:27:13] And we're not able to ask them at the first meeting.

[2:27:15] So unless you have anything to say, I would open it up if there's any questions from the audience of the board.

[2:27:22] So I was like you want to say something.

[2:27:24] I do.

[2:27:25] I just wish to from the time when we presented the budget till now.

[2:27:33] New information has come in where especially with regards to our new state health insurance plan.

[2:27:41] And I ship's rate increases were much more higher than what I had budgeted for, and I'd like the board to, you know, the difference is approximately almost a quarter million dollars.

[2:27:55] And I'd like the board for me to adjust the budget and use fund balance to balance it out so that it still is zero percent increase.

[2:28:04] But I'd like to make that change into the numbers if the board approves itself.

[2:28:08] I have no issue with it. We have a strong fund balance, so I'd prefer to do it that way other than otherwise we'd be raising its taxes about

[2:28:17] You know point in a quarter

[2:28:19] Yeah, right isn't about a point in a quarter point in a quarter. Yes, I'm fine with any comment from the board

[2:28:25] I'm fine with it. I thought it was rational

[2:28:27] Okay, I'm good. Thank you

[2:28:28] That's my only thing I wanted to bring to thank you and I do want to thank a boss

[2:28:32] We did it at the last meeting and Kevin Hay or a town administrator

[2:28:36] We're continuing to improve our budget process, I'm going to leave it all to you guys in the future, but I think it's been a much improved process over the last few years, and we thank you for doing all that work.

[2:28:48] Any comments from the public on the budget? Any further comments from the board on the budget?

[2:28:55] So, I would ask for a motion to close the hearing.

[2:28:58] I'll make that motion.

[2:28:59] I'll second.

[2:29:00] All in favor?

[2:29:01] All in favor.

[2:29:02] And then I would ask for a motion to approve the Town Board budget, the adoption of the budget

[2:29:07] for 2024.

[2:29:08] I'll make that motion.

[2:29:09] All in favor?

[2:29:11] Aye.

[2:29:11] A boss.

[2:29:12] Thank you for all the hard work.

[2:29:13] Thank you.

[2:29:13] And the boss and Kevin start in the summer, June or July.

[2:29:18] And you're not going to have to deal with me anymore on the budget, so you're probably

[2:29:20] going to win the show.

[2:29:21] I will.

[2:29:22] We'll still follow the same schedule.

[2:29:23] And, you know, all I can say is, you know, will be, I like to take one thing what you've said is always, you know,

[2:29:32] try and leave the place better than what you did. So, I hope to keep improving upon it.

[2:29:38] So, hopefully we make it into an even better process even though you're not here, but hopefully, you know,

[2:29:43] everything we do tries and makes it easier for the townboat to make their decisions. I'm sure you will.

[2:29:49] Thank you, boss.

[2:29:50] I don't know if you're going to bring up or move up the item for the fun balance trend.

[2:30:00] We're going to pay with that. I'll just add the other questions I can answer to. This should be quick, I'll just say.

[2:30:06] Or is it? Mr. Laney, you say.

[2:30:10] So, just consider what the relation of budget transfer from the general from balance to capital funds to close out several town projects.

[2:30:16] So, Director of Finance, we're just cleaning up that and open up to any comments from the board or the public.

[2:30:22] I'll see you later.

[2:30:23] I'll see you later.

[2:30:24] Have you explained to people a second?

[2:30:27] Sure.

[2:30:27] So essentially when these capital projects were first set up,

[2:30:32] we made certain estimates as to what we would expect to spend on them.

[2:30:38] And we allocated money from the general funding to those capital projects.

[2:30:45] When we actually went out to bid and we signed the contracts with the

[2:30:50] contractors and the consultants to complete the work, they were much higher than what we

[2:30:55] had estimated, and this is really just us closing out that gap from an accounting perspective

[2:31:03] to get the money's right sorted out and to correct. Basically, the overage was already

[2:31:08] approved and through a bid and tender process when the projects were done. That's the short

[2:31:14] summary.

[2:31:15] Thank you.

[2:31:18] Any other questions?

[2:31:19] Any other questions?

[2:31:19] Thank you.

[2:31:21] So if there's no other questions, I would ask for a motion to approve the budget transfers

[2:31:26] made by the Director of Finance.

[2:31:27] I'll make that motion.

[2:31:29] I'll second.

[2:31:30] All in favor?

[2:31:31] All right.

[2:31:31] Thank you.

[2:31:32] Nothing else, right?

[2:31:34] Thank you, boss.

[2:31:35] I appreciate the...

[2:31:38] What about theics for their patients tonight?

[2:31:41] So we have the...

[2:31:43] Hearing to consider local auto a men chapter twenty seven code about the executions twenty seven

[2:31:49] There are seven twenty seven to nineteen in the attachment one appendix a ethics disclosure statement of the code of the town of Northcastle

[2:31:57] And

[2:31:58] So I would ask first for a motion to open the hearing

[2:32:02] I'll make the motion a second on favor.

[2:32:04] Hi several members of the board of ethics here.

[2:32:08] These were

[2:32:10] Recommend

[2:32:10] Excuse me

[2:32:13] recommendations that the Board of Ethics made.

[2:32:16] I personally I'd hope to have a work session first and then have a hearing, the majority

[2:32:21] of the Board of Prophets to just go right to a hearing tonight, which is fine.

[2:32:26] I have some comments and suggestions.

[2:32:28] I don't know if any other Board members do, but hopefully we can get through this quickly

[2:32:32] and close the hearing.

[2:32:34] And, Chair, we turn it over to you.

[2:32:36] Well, thanks, Mike, and members of the Town Board, and especially to your family, I'll

[2:32:41] I apologize that this is what you have to endure for a few minutes, but it's really up to them about how much you have to prepare it.

[2:32:47] I'm going to use my moment here to give my thank you to Mike.

[2:32:53] I have known you for a while have been involved in various communities and boards in the town.

[2:33:00] And I will say, I've learned a ton from you Mike.

[2:33:03] I've really tried to model a lot of my leadership style after what I've seen from you.

[2:33:07] The consensus building, you know, the listening, the, you know, really trying to get to the right answer, struggling with everything.

[2:33:17] Hopefully you don't spend time watching ethics board meetings, but, you know, that's what I often try to do is, you know, be the last to speak as you often are.

[2:33:27] And so, you know, I really modeled that and I'm going to miss you a ton because I really enjoyed working with you.

[2:33:33] And I wish you luck in whatever comes next and I will be, you know, among those people who encourage you to, you know, find something else to give back in really meaningful ways to the town and your community.

[2:33:46] So thank you.

[2:33:46] Thank you.

[2:33:48] So let me just frame really quickly.

[2:33:51] Because I've been here a number of times about the code.

[2:33:54] Because as everybody knows, you know, we revise the code and might you mention a judge, Schimer, who, you know, with me was part of that effort to revise that.

[2:34:03] the code a number of years ago when you and the board then thought that was a good idea.

[2:34:09] And since we adopted that code, we have been back a number of times to ask for various amendments

[2:34:16] to the code because we're still trying to get it right.

[2:34:19] I think we tend to think it's a pretty living document and those of us who are on the board.

[2:34:25] We study that code pretty regularly and sometimes we find places in which we can adjust

[2:34:31] to continue to have our code be really a model for towns in the state, there's been a number of

[2:34:36] instances in which other towns who are revising their code have reached out to us because

[2:34:40] they've noticed that we really have a very forward ethics code and they've asked us questions

[2:34:47] and wanted to model their codes after hours. At the bottom, the code is really about transparency

[2:34:53] and the code is designed and I think the ethics board really embodies this role which is it is designed.

[2:35:00] One to help people avoid violating the code. And that's a lot of the work that we do as an ethics board that

[2:35:06] you guys support from our educational initiatives, but also these changes are very much designed

[2:35:11] in order to help ensure that our town volunteers, those of us who serve on boards and our elected

[2:35:18] officials can avoid violating the laws of the town. So, as everybody knows, who is at least following

[2:35:25] long. There are three requested changes to the ethics code. I can go through those when I'm

[2:35:33] just going to do it briefly because I think you guys are all very familiar with them.

[2:35:36] And as Mike you said, you have some comments and maybe a few adjustments. And I think Jose

[2:35:41] who's been a great liaison to the ethics board and help us navigate some of these decisions.

[2:35:49] So I really appreciate him and the rest of the board entertaining this. The first change just has

[2:35:55] do with adding a small provision to one of the sections of the code, which would close a loophole

[2:36:04] that exists in the code now, would allow somebody the way the code works now, would allow

[2:36:10] somebody to basically be involved in a decision and then quit and then sort of before having

[2:36:18] to vote, and then come back on to their position, and this would prevent them from being

[2:36:25] involved in those decisions after resuming their role for six months.

[2:36:31] This came up because we actually became aware of at least one example where something

[2:36:37] similar happened.

[2:36:38] We just thought, you know, we're trying to have people avoid doing things that sort of cause

[2:36:44] impression of impropriety, and this was one such example.

[2:36:47] The second change that we're requesting, this is sort of one of those good examples of

[2:36:53] we did the best we could when we put the code together, and we miss some things.

[2:36:57] And this one is that, although the members of the board of ethics, they are pointed

[2:37:04] for five year terms, and there's five members that are all staggered terms, so every year there's

[2:37:09] an opportunity for somebody to either request to be re-appointed, or for somebody new to

[2:37:13] come on the board. We also have two alternates. We just forgot to include the staggered terms

[2:37:19] for the alternates. So the way the code reads now is that the alternates serve in perpetuity,

[2:37:25] which is fine for the alternates. You want to stay in those roles forever, but we think that

[2:37:29] it's probably in the better interest of the town that those are also staggered terms and that

[2:37:34] there's an opportunity to be reconsidered and reappointed after five year terms. So I will say,

[2:37:40] If that provision is approved, I think that it will require the two serving alternates

[2:37:47] Art Elias, and then of course you just appointed Penny, and congratulations, Penny.

[2:37:53] I think it will require them to be removed from the role and then re-appointed to those

[2:37:58] staggered terms with one of them being appointed for a five-year term, the other for a one-year term.

[2:38:03] So we can get the staggering right, starting in 2024, and then the last change isn't a specific change

[2:38:09] to be code, but it is a change to the disclosure statement, and we've spoken about this

[2:38:16] a number of times.

[2:38:18] The change that we are recommending, it has to do with the disclosure of real property

[2:38:26] that those who are elected officials and members of boards that are responsible for signing

[2:38:33] the disclosure statement on an annual basis.

[2:38:36] what it does is that it breaks out into two sections.

[2:38:40] The types of property that we ask that you have to disclose.

[2:38:44] And this is all other than your personal residence.

[2:38:47] So this is all goes to your investment property in town.

[2:38:52] And so the first provision is limited.

[2:38:56] It relates to just the person serving and their spouse or partner.

[2:39:00] and they have to disclose in what they own, either one of them as their investment properties

[2:39:08] in the town of North Castle, and then the second section is a provision that goes to a broader

[2:39:16] group, so the sort of the individual who's on the board, not just their spouse, but also an

[2:39:22] enumerated list of relatives. I'll use that lower case. But an enumerated list of their relatives,

[2:39:30] That they have an awareness of the languages to the best of their knowledge has a piece of property that they own that is coming before one of the town boards for approval of an application.

[2:39:46] So those are the three changes that are subject. I'm just summarizing everybody has the actual language.

[2:39:52] And I know we've had some discussion about some of these in the past so I'll stop there and I don't know what the process is now

[2:40:03] So, the first two, does anybody on the board have any issues or comments?

[2:40:15] On the first two, I just want to make the comment that I fully support those changes.

[2:40:20] And I think we've talked about it before. So, I don't have any questions on this.

[2:40:24] Great, thanks so much.

[2:40:25] Yeah, I fully support them too, and I agree.

[2:40:27] Thanks, Matt.

[2:40:29] I'm sorry.

[2:40:29] Same here.

[2:40:30] Thank you.

[2:40:31] Thank you.

[2:40:32] I have no issue with it.

[2:40:32] No, I don't.

[2:40:34] Thanks.

[2:40:36] So the third one is the disclosure form.

[2:40:38] We've had a lot of conversation about that.

[2:40:41] Anybody have any.

[2:40:43] I think several members were already in favor of it.

[2:40:46] So anybody want to point on that.

[2:40:48] Yeah.

[2:40:49] I just want to make actually the same statement on the third one.

[2:40:52] I think it's a great change to make.

[2:40:54] And I think the wording is very clear.

[2:40:58] So I don't see any issue with it.

[2:41:01] So I'd like to fully support it.

[2:41:03] Thank you.

[2:41:04] Yeah, I fully supported too.

[2:41:06] And we discussed this the last go around with the athletes

[2:41:08] go to similar concept.

[2:41:10] I just think if you're an elected official or if you're

[2:41:13] serving on a volunteer board or committee

[2:41:14] that deals with the real estate regulation,

[2:41:17] I think this is really critical for public trust.

[2:41:20] I think it's just, I mean, I came from the investment world.

[2:41:23] This was standard practice, you know, if we were investing other people's money and trading stocks,

[2:41:28] we had to disclose to leave a compliance department, our personal stock accounts to make sure

[2:41:33] that we weren't front running.

[2:41:35] So to me, I think this is really, you know, kind of basic.

[2:41:39] I know that the county has put in place similar changes.

[2:41:42] We discussed that last time.

[2:41:45] You know, when we interview an executive session candidates for boards and committees,

[2:41:50] this was always a question I asked because I was curious to see, and I've asked others too.

[2:41:53] Here's the see if there were other opinions and, you know, almost everybody, I think actually literally everybody I've asked had the view that this was something that should be included in a proper ethics code.

[2:42:03] So I'm supportive of it.

[2:42:06] I think it's what I did as a matter of fact in 2023.

[2:42:12] I just rather than just give you corporations, I actually identified the addresses and the businesses.

[2:42:19] So obviously I see nothing wrong with doing it because I did it voluntarily.

[2:42:22] Thank you, Barbara.

[2:42:26] So my concern has been when this came up last time.

[2:42:29] I'm not going to fight it.

[2:42:32] But that there is a difference between secrecy and privacy.

[2:42:35] So if secrecy, you're probably trying to keep something from somebody.

[2:42:39] Privacy is why do somebody have the right to know?

[2:42:42] And I understand what you're saying, Matt.

[2:42:44] And banking, we did what Reggo, we've got to disclose things.

[2:42:47] But these are jobs.

[2:42:48] These are publicly held companies.

[2:42:50] These are investments.

[2:42:51] These are volunteers.

[2:42:53] So the last thing I want to do is disincent people from volunteering because they've got to disclose private information.

[2:42:59] Not secret information, private information.

[2:43:03] And then what do we do with that information?

[2:43:05] So if you're a bank with rego, you have to research thoroughly.

[2:43:11] I'm not on the understanding that anybody's going to be doing that on any applications.

[2:43:16] And then that information, it also isn't necessarily private if it could be foil by the public.

[2:43:21] So those are my concerns with it, but I'm not going to fight it.

[2:43:25] If that's the way this board wants to go, I worry about disincenting people from volunteering

[2:43:29] because they'll say, wait a minute, I'm going to disclose all this information.

[2:43:34] That's not what I intended to do here.

[2:43:36] So I'm not going to fight it with the board.

[2:43:38] I'm going to give two suggestions that I have and I wanted to do this on a work session, but

[2:43:42] we'll do it with the board here.

[2:43:44] The first one is hopefully as simple and it's right around this issue.

[2:43:48] So I wrote language, I'm not a lawyer, but I'll read it, and there's plenty of lawyers in the room.

[2:43:53] Upon submission of any town volunteer application for a position that requires completion of the town's ethics disclosure form, this revised form,

[2:44:03] set form is required to be provided to applicant within five days of application.

[2:44:08] My reasoning around that is, we interview a lot of people.

[2:44:12] And why would the board want to take somebody all the way down the road and determine,

[2:44:18] okay, that person is perfect for the planning board, and they look at this disclosure

[2:44:22] inform and say, I'm not telling you all my private real estate holding, why don't you

[2:44:27] tell me this when I started the process?

[2:44:28] So to me, this is an easy one to just say when they formally complete the application on

[2:44:33] our website, and it's for only one of the boards that requires this form, so then where

[2:44:38] required to submit that disclosure for them to them so they can review it and determine

[2:44:42] do I really want to go down this path if they're asking me to disclose information that is

[2:44:47] private to me not secret, but private. So that's my suggestion. I have another one but that's

[2:44:51] one suggestion. Can I say something about that? I think we can accomplish that just as readily.

[2:45:00] Telling people, when they apply, if they're going to be on those boards and committees that they're going to have to disclose that. So then we don't have to go through the whole process.

[2:45:06] But that's not a process. I'm sorry.

[2:45:10] That's not a process.

[2:45:11] I'm not sure I understand that.

[2:45:12] We'll explain the process. How do they get to form?

[2:45:16] You disclose to them when they're applying for the position.

[2:45:18] They apply online. Who's disclosing to them?

[2:45:21] Well, then you put it on the form. If you're one of these boards, you're going to have to go ahead and disclose this.

[2:45:27] And here's a link if you want to see it.

[2:45:28] So, all I'm saying is to easy way for me

[2:45:31] is to include it in the ethics code.

[2:45:32] So there's a process.

[2:45:34] So now we're beholding to somebody

[2:45:35] applies, and it's one of these boards

[2:45:37] that we require to sign the disclosure,

[2:45:40] then they should be given that form.

[2:45:42] So if you want to do it outside the ethics code,

[2:45:44] that's OK.

[2:45:45] All I'm saying is, this is my suggestion is,

[2:45:48] let people know upfront, because this is a big change.

[2:45:52] And why waste all of your time next year?

[2:45:55] I won't be here, but you interview people

[2:45:56] for these important board decisions, they should know this up front.

[2:45:59] So if it's not in the ethics code, you could put it somewhere else, but you need a process

[2:46:03] to it.

[2:46:04] You can't just say, well, give it to him.

[2:46:05] There has to be something concrete that says, if they do this, they get this.

[2:46:09] That's all.

[2:46:09] I'd very much agree with the concept.

[2:46:11] I just don't think that we need to put it in this local law change for the ethics code.

[2:46:15] I think we could just do it administratively.

[2:46:18] But I very much agree with the concept.

[2:46:20] Okay.

[2:46:21] And I think, I'm not saying it has to be in the ethics code.

[2:46:25] It could be somewhere else, but it should be codified somewhere.

[2:46:28] Because I think if it's just, okay, we're going to do it.

[2:46:32] There's a process to apply, right?

[2:46:34] They apply through the website.

[2:46:37] And we know there's only certain boards that are going to require to do this.

[2:46:41] And then there should be something, a system that says, okay, when this happens, then they

[2:46:46] get that disclosure form.

[2:46:47] And that way, they could say, I'm not going to probably want to disclose your form.

[2:46:50] I want to proceed.

[2:46:51] or, this is concerning to me, I shouldn't be disclosing my private information, not secret

[2:46:58] information.

[2:46:59] So, if the board decides now, it doesn't want to be part of the ethics code.

[2:47:03] I'm fine with that, but I would recommend it's codified somewhere, so that form is given

[2:47:08] to people applying for these certifications.

[2:47:10] And do we today codify in the law indication that volunteers will need to share this private

[2:47:18] information when they abstain from votes that have something to do with their real state

[2:47:24] holdings?

[2:47:26] It's clear in the ethics code.

[2:47:28] If it's already clear.

[2:47:30] That's that was my argument why this was sort of built in suspenders, but that's what you

[2:47:34] want to do, that's fine.

[2:47:37] But it's already clear in the ethics code, it's really clearly spelled out that if you

[2:47:41] have a conflict, you have to disclose it.

[2:47:43] And this is, and I thought what we're doing here is we're actually

[2:47:47] approving the change in that ethics code, so it's also very clear

[2:47:50] what the new questionnaire would look like.

[2:47:53] Right, but a new applicant should know that a front,

[2:47:56] not when they get appointed, or approved by the board,

[2:48:00] and then they're appointed, and now they're informed.

[2:48:03] Well, now you're appointed, you have to sign this form.

[2:48:06] And they say, well, I don't want to sign this form.

[2:48:09] Or I'm okay with this form, but they should know, this is a big change.

[2:48:13] So to disclose private information, not if you have a conflict, we all know this.

[2:48:18] The town attorney trains us on this.

[2:48:20] There's a conflict or perceived conflict.

[2:48:21] You check with the town attorney.

[2:48:23] And then he says, yes or no.

[2:48:26] Here, you're asking people to disclose private information up front when there is no conflict.

[2:48:32] That's my concern.

[2:48:34] So why not just let people have the form when the problem when they apply?

[2:48:38] And then they can make the decision.

[2:48:40] because then you could be interviewing people and appointing people, and they say why don't you tell me this up front?

[2:48:45] That's my point.

[2:48:46] You ever see the scene from a few good men where they talk about, you know, where's the mess hall in this manual?

[2:48:52] And if they're like, it doesn't say, it's like, how do you know where to go when you eat?

[2:48:55] You just follow everybody at meal time.

[2:48:57] I just, I think, you know, we don't have as far as I'm aware, somebody correct me from wrong.

[2:49:02] In our town code, we don't have anything that says this is who's going to respond to you.

[2:49:07] And, you know, when you volunteer for a board or committee, we don't say this is what's going to happen.

[2:49:12] You're going to come up and you're going to interview an executive session with the board.

[2:49:15] But we have these processes and they're good processes and I think we should continue with them.

[2:49:18] So my point is just, I don't think I very much agree with your point that that's something that we should involve in a process.

[2:49:24] I just don't think it needs to be in the town code.

[2:49:27] Because we don't have the existing process that we have with, you know, getting volunteers up into an executive and communicating with them in the town code.

[2:49:36] agreed. We have a process. I mean, I'll be written clearly, but this is an extra step

[2:49:41] you're asking them to do. So I'm not going to believe it. My point is, I think it's better

[2:49:45] for all of you. I'm not going to be here that you could save a lot of time if you're interviewing

[2:49:50] people and they are not aware of this and you're asking them to provide not if there's a conflict.

[2:49:56] You're asking to provide private information without it.

[2:50:00] And to me, they should be aware of that. That's all. Can we? Can we listen to comments?

[2:50:05] I got up before Mr. Barron, Mr. Millen spoke, so what I'm going to say is probably redundant.

[2:50:13] But to me, it seems that at the time you set up an interview is just as easy to enclose two things. The ethics code and this particular requirement.

[2:50:24] So people know what they're getting into.

[2:50:29] So it would seem procedural and yes,

[2:50:33] it's one extra step of the town clerk to do.

[2:50:37] But I think that we could just make a part of town

[2:50:40] procedure to supply ethics code and this requirement.

[2:50:46] And that may solve it.

[2:50:47] When I got became supervisor, I put a process in place.

[2:50:50] And these guys get sick of hearing me say,

[2:50:52] But every volunteer in the sum here, you're the same thing.

[2:50:55] Everybody is the same process.

[2:50:57] You come up on care if you've been serving 24 years,

[2:50:59] you interview with the board, and it's the same process.

[2:51:02] So maybe in that process, it may be a little time,

[2:51:06] but not as much as you hand the format or something

[2:51:09] to that effect.

[2:51:10] So those people know that they're going to be required to sign this.

[2:51:13] Because it is a substitute change.

[2:51:16] It's not just reading an ethics code and signing it.

[2:51:18] Now you're asking them to disclose something

[2:51:20] where they don't have a conflict.

[2:51:21] So, again, you guys, if you want to just do it that way, then do it part of the interview process.

[2:51:26] Advanced notice is appropriate.

[2:51:29] But this way you do it through procedure, you don't need to do anything else.

[2:51:34] And I'm not saying it has to be part of the ethics code.

[2:51:36] I'm just saying it, I think it will be productive because you're asking people to now disclose information

[2:51:43] where there is no conflict and it's private.

[2:51:46] Can I offer a Brett Summers a comment on that?

[2:51:50] On the school board, you know, there's laws, there's policies, and there's your procedures.

[2:51:58] If you put into the code of ethics, your administrative practice, it becomes the law,

[2:52:07] and the board of ethics is responsible for enforcing the code of ethics.

[2:52:12] We're not really in a position to be able to say,

[2:52:15] did you send somebody a form and what if you didn't? Is that an article 78 of violation of that?

[2:52:25] This is actual law. The procedures carry a lot of weight. The administrative procedures carry weight as to whether you're being

[2:52:35] And really, the standard for a 70 article 78 procedure is a abusive discretion, that kind of thing.

[2:52:45] Not a violation of law.

[2:52:48] So you really don't want to make this formal into the code of ethics.

[2:52:53] Do it as part of the interview process.

[2:52:56] I think it's productive to as a courtesy to volunteers and I also think it aids the board.

[2:53:04] and getting somebody down the road and then you realize there's a disconnect.

[2:53:08] So, I would not have to believe it, I'm fine not including it.

[2:53:10] My goal is to add, I'd like to concept to, given that the majority seems to be in favor of it somewhere other than in the code I will say I think it is something that I think would be quite useful if we can build it out and I hate to look at Allison and ask her to do more work, but it does feel like a section on the volunteer application form to make

[2:53:34] clear if you are applying for these specific board positions that, and you are selected for

[2:53:41] a board position that, you know, click here to see the disclosure form that you'll be

[2:53:45] asked to fill out on an annual basis, but it's conceptually it's the same thing, but I agree

[2:53:49] that it should be somewhere where it feels like it's anchored to the process.

[2:53:56] And that's even better idea, it's electronic, and so thanks for listening to it, and I would

[2:54:03] say next year, just consider it and figure out a way to do it.

[2:54:06] That's fair to all and easy and maybe an electronic way might even be easier we can see it immediately.

[2:54:12] Sounds great.

[2:54:13] I can't do it, but the other suggestion I had, and this is just to provide

[2:54:24] something to sitting

[2:54:27] volunteers, and we've seen so much this year, and then even tonight, is around campaigning.

[2:54:34] So I think there's something too, and I'm fine if you don't agree with this tonight, but

[2:54:38] I think it should be considered, is a sitting, town board member should be prohibited from soliciting

[2:54:45] political campaign support and or assistance regardless of who the candidate is from any town

[2:54:50] board appointed volunteers.

[2:54:53] So to me that helps separate, can you just repeat that?

[2:54:56] That's right.

[2:54:57] No, no.

[2:54:58] This is my line.

[2:54:58] Okay.

[2:54:59] connection.

[2:55:00] We're sitting town board members shall be prohibited from soliciting political or campaign support and or assistance, regardless of who the candidate is, from any town board appointed volunteer, so I'm like what I'm saying there is, doesn't mean that if I'm running and somebody says, hey, Michael, I want to help you. That's totally fine. But to then have an overture from a sitting board member saying, can I, I want your help and somebody says, no, now there's, there's something there that if they come up for renewal,

[2:55:30] there's something that was just created.

[2:55:31] And to me, I think that'd be better if there

[2:55:33] are a wall there, the way that couldn't exist.

[2:55:35] And you leave it up to the volunteer.

[2:55:37] Hey, I want to help you.

[2:55:38] Great.

[2:55:39] You could help me.

[2:55:40] But you shouldn't be able to solicit their help.

[2:55:42] And then if they say no, now there

[2:55:44] could be something in the future where maybe they

[2:55:47] won't be reappointed.

[2:55:48] So it's just to provide some protection for a volunteer.

[2:55:51] That's all.

[2:55:53] So judge?

[2:55:56] I think that what you're suggesting

[2:55:58] is great.

[2:56:06] We do have a provision that you can solicit campaign contributions,

[2:56:13] sections 27,16, but you're going beyond 27,16 and that highlights for me.

[2:56:23] The point that David made a little while ago, which is that we are in a living document,

[2:56:33] We need to continuously look at it to see what additional changes we make.

[2:56:41] We're talking here about

[2:56:47] political contributions in 2076, 16.

[2:56:52] There are other ways to help people.

[2:56:54] So we need to reaffirm that changes to this code are inevitable as we learn more.

[2:57:10] And my, and we've established this where if somebody says, you say, Mike, I want to send you a check. That's fine.

[2:57:17] on solicits.

[2:57:17] Well, there is a small town we've covered this years ago, I remember

[2:57:20] Roland saying that.

[2:57:21] You can't prevent that.

[2:57:23] Can't prevent that.

[2:57:24] But you can't solicit.

[2:57:25] And there are other things you shouldn't be able to do.

[2:57:28] So not many, we have to be more explicit.

[2:57:30] And maybe it's easy language there.

[2:57:33] I'm suggesting it.

[2:57:35] I'm not saying that we have to do it tonight.

[2:57:38] So if you say, let's just get this hearing done.

[2:57:40] And maybe we'll pick it up next year.

[2:57:41] I'm fine with that.

[2:57:42] I'm trying to provide some two suggestions.

[2:57:44] I'm suggesting that tonight, we deal with what we have proposed and that we go back to the drawing boards to see how we can improve the code.

[2:57:57] You want me that?

[2:57:59] And dump it on the rest of you next week.

[2:58:00] I'll put it on you.

[2:58:02] The mic got me to revamp the code.

[2:58:05] I'm going to put this one on you, Judge.

[2:58:07] Mike will invite you to join the revision committee in the next year.

[2:58:13] Yeah, you got to talk to my wife.

[2:58:15] I don't think it's going to happen.

[2:58:16] That's a no.

[2:58:17] I saw a lot of head shaking in this direction.

[2:58:21] Anyway, that's all I had.

[2:58:22] Does anybody else have anything else beyond what was said?

[2:58:25] Well, I was just going to make it a comment based on your last point.

[2:58:28] Like that maybe next year, it would be great to get a perspective from that

[2:58:33] export on what the further changes are that you would prioritize for the next version after and

[2:58:41] understand that whether it's one thing or ten things that would be great to hear.

[2:58:47] Yeah, and I think that would be, you know, we typically come in front of the board feels like

[2:58:53] more than this, but at least once a year we come in front of the town board to sort of make our

[2:58:57] annual report, and I think we'll try to do that in the first quarter or so the year, and I think

[2:59:02] at that point, we'll be able to come in with some directionality on what we're thinking in terms

[2:59:08] of some additional changes to the ethics code.

[2:59:12] And it could just be monetary or non-monitoring.

[2:59:15] But thanks for listening.

[2:59:18] You guys take it up next year with the form and with the suggestion on the volunteers and

[2:59:23] that's real I had.

[2:59:26] So there's not any other comments, we can close the hearing, but I'll open it up to the board

[2:59:29] if anybody hasn't.

[2:59:31] I have two comments, maybe don't count as three.

[2:59:36] I'm all four, I think it's important that you are repeatedly taking a look at the code

[2:59:41] and trying to prove on it, seeing what's going on in the world, seeing what's going on in town.

[2:59:47] So in Dorosat, I would propose one fix in section three.

[2:59:53] In one A, the section that was added, the dislocation of all real estate in the town of North Castle,

[2:59:58] other than the primary route.

[3:00:00] Rezons of you are your relative. When we have language in one B, it refers to parentscipling child, household

[3:00:09] member, et cetera, and it just says, other than their primary residence. So I think to make

[3:00:13] a parallel and make sense to say, other than the primary residence of you or your spouse or domestic

[3:00:20] point.

[3:00:25] It sounds fine, everyone else is in every measure.

[3:00:29] Okay.

[3:00:30] Can you just say that change again?

[3:00:31] Okay.

[3:00:32] So in one A, this location of a real estate in the town of Northcastle, other than the primary

[3:00:38] residents, this involved because before this was covering relatives, so it would be, instead

[3:00:45] of the primary residents of you, you're a relative, it should be the people to whom one A applies

[3:00:51] to, which you see right after the pentaticals.

[3:00:53] where your spouse or domestic partner just make it a parallel.

[3:00:57] Oh, yeah. Got it. So there's consistency.

[3:01:00] Yes.

[3:01:00] Okay.

[3:01:03] And then I think it would be helpful for the ethics board also to take a look at 27-6B.

[3:01:14] It says disclosure of interest in legislation and other matters.

[3:01:19] And that says, obviously not something we'll do now,

[3:01:22] But it says, no business officer shall without prior disclosure,

[3:01:26] filled on any matter which materially and directly benefits a political supporter,

[3:01:31] who in the election just prior to when that matter came before the board

[3:01:34] contributed more than 500 to that board members,

[3:01:37] election campaign, we gave that board member a contribution of goods,

[3:01:42] or goods and excuse me, services valued at more than $500.

[3:01:48] And the reason I have a concern about that is,

[3:01:50] was a case situation where a board member got contributions of $400 from each of five entities

[3:02:02] in a trust, which seemed to be coming from the same parties.

[3:02:06] And so to my mind, that looks like structuring to get around the limit, because $500 contributions

[3:02:13] add up to $2,000, and if you had done four, if the parties had done four or $500 contributions,

[3:02:22] it would have been covered by this potentially. So I think it's merits to look at that

[3:02:27] to see what happened. But it was literally on the same date, the thing was not total of 21,

[3:02:32] where you had five or four in the dollar contributions.

[3:02:41] That's the state election. I

[3:02:45] can't

[3:02:51] Yes, you know, they'll have to look at it in terms of how broadly it applies whether it might have even already applied under the ethics code

[3:02:59] But you want to as we're doing another thing is try to avoid people structuring around things as much as reasonably possible

[3:03:05] something you could super see legally near-xtatilexian campaign finance

[3:03:09] Well, but you guys should look at it. Yeah, okay. We'll see that to our next agenda

[3:03:14] Yeah, see you're saying that

[3:03:16] 27-6b

[3:03:18] It doesn't, isn't effective, because it's supersedes the interstate campaign.

[3:03:22] I'm not saying, I'm not looking at it.

[3:03:23] I don't have it in front of me.

[3:03:24] I'm just saying as a comment to this board, that I think you need to consult with an attorney

[3:03:31] to make sure that you're not doing something that you think will supersede New York State campaign

[3:03:35] finance law.

[3:03:36] It's one thing.

[3:03:37] All right.

[3:03:38] So you guys should pick it up next year.

[3:03:41] But your point would be you would just want something in our ethics code that groups

[3:03:44] the entities together if you're all related or something like that.

[3:03:48] I'm not exactly sure what the answer is and upon further investigation.

[3:03:52] Maybe you figure out what the real situation was.

[3:03:54] Okay.

[3:03:55] We'll add it to the agenda.

[3:03:58] Any other questions or comments on what's proposed?

[3:04:02] This is going to be easy.

[3:04:06] So when I drafted the form of the local law,

[3:04:10] that was true to the Board of Ethics decision,

[3:04:14] which was total consensus, but I noticed a typo really in appendix a box number two, and

[3:04:25] it's not really a typo, it's just an improvement since the term relative and in Trister

[3:04:30] both defined terms. The lawyer in me wants a nishcaps on those so that people understand.

[3:04:40] Those are the terms with the hyperlinks for it.

[3:04:42] Yeah, I know.

[3:04:44] It's bootstrapped, but while we're taking care of the business here.

[3:04:49] Thank you.

[3:04:50] Can we have an issue with that?

[3:04:51] No.

[3:04:52] No.

[3:04:52] It's fine with me.

[3:04:53] So any other comments or if we'll close the hearing?

[3:04:56] I'll make the motion to close the hearing.

[3:04:58] If nobody is comments.

[3:04:59] Okay.

[3:05:00] And then a motion to approve the changes that were received by us, including the changes verbalized by

[3:05:07] Councilman Berra and I'd like to make that motion and thank the Ethics Board for all the effort you've put on into this.

[3:05:15] It's been a very long road and pushing through and trying to do something good for the town.

[3:05:22] I think it's really important and so residents can have more faith in the officials that are serving them.

[3:05:28] I know real estate is one of the most crucial areas in municipalities.

[3:05:33] I second that motion.

[3:05:35] On fair.

[3:05:37] Hi.

[3:05:37] Great. Thank you all very much.

[3:05:40] Thank you.

[3:05:41] Thank you.

[3:05:44] Under all business.

[3:05:48] Quick.

[3:05:48] Approval of town board minutes.

[3:05:50] Yeah.

[3:05:50] I hate to do this.

[3:05:53] But I should roll in maybe we need some guidance from you because

[3:05:56] When does the town board need to sort of re-appoint the two alternates?

[3:06:03] So they have staggered terms. Would that happen in January? Do we need to do that now?

[3:06:08] We'd think of the organizational meeting.

[3:06:10] That could be done.

[3:06:12] Okay, great.

[3:06:13] So I don't know who keeps the agenda for those.

[3:06:15] That's just to make sure that that's on the agenda.

[3:06:18] So for now we'll proceed with Penny as the other alternate within definite term.

[3:06:23] Okay, thank you again.

[3:06:25] Thank you.

[3:06:25] So then a motion to approve the town board minutes in November 29th, 2023.

[3:06:29] We'll make that motion.

[3:06:30] I'll second.

[3:06:31] All favor?

[3:06:31] Aye.

[3:06:33] And then we have an item-consider-request from JMC Planning and Hearing Landscape Architecture

[3:06:37] and Land Serving Peel, Cito Extend, Summit Club.

[3:06:40] It's a temporary special use permit to operate the Summit Golf Club, proposed maintenance

[3:06:44] building and allow public use to the golf course while the residents should units are

[3:06:47] being constructed through next December 31st, so we have any commotion to receive the letter

[3:06:52] from JMC.

[3:06:53] I'll make the motion.

[3:06:55] All second.

[3:06:55] All in favor?

[3:06:57] Thank you.

[3:06:57] Good evening, supervisor.

[3:06:58] Members of the board.

[3:06:59] For the record, Paul Siceack from Jamesy.

[3:07:02] Before I get into the good stuff, I just wanted to thank you for your service and it's

[3:07:07] been a while.

[3:07:07] I've been coming to this board.

[3:07:08] I think I started out as a board carrier for my bosses and now look at me now.

[3:07:14] So, anyway.

[3:07:16] So, yeah.

[3:07:18] So, you know, on behalf of some club partners, we're here before your board to, you know, ask for

[3:07:23] when you're extension on a temporary stock-to-use permit associated with it.

[3:07:27] It's somewhat clubed as we continue and finalize our process of locating a suitable area

[3:07:34] for the proposed maintenance building and get a formal submission together for a review

[3:07:39] of the planning board and ultimately review by your board.

[3:07:45] Any comments or questions from the public or the board?

[3:07:47] No, I spoke with Paul today.

[3:07:49] I'm fine with this, and I think that, you know, I think first of all, you cannot get

[3:07:55] site plan approval without this being part of the site plan.

[3:08:00] So I mean, I think that a year, I'm sure, would be more than enough time for you to

[3:08:05] decide where this maintenance building is going to go and all the other specifications.

[3:08:12] Correct.

[3:08:14] I have a question and a comment possible correction.

[3:08:18] So, the process of the value, it says you're on the first page, some of the club is in the process of evaluating the location and cost of the maintenance building associated with the golf course.

[3:08:29] So, you first came to the board with that what about two years ago.

[3:08:32] We saw the diagrams and all that. Just so you understand what's been holding it up.

[3:08:36] It's just been a process that's been evolving with discussions with the owner and their grounds keepers.

[3:08:43] the project architects are office.

[3:08:47] There's a process that happens with every new idea.

[3:08:50] It needs to be engineered to a certain extent.

[3:08:52] And then that engineer drawing is being priced out

[3:08:56] so that the owner can evaluate the pricing of these

[3:09:00] maintenance buildings, which are really not cheap these days.

[3:09:03] So we're just trying to find a medium ground

[3:09:06] where we can still have funds to move this project forward.

[3:09:12] So that's really where we are.

[3:09:13] Thank you.

[3:09:14] So as a fair to say, when we originally were before us on the maintenance building, it had the pictures, the elevations and all that, that was more theoretical than anything.

[3:09:22] No, that was really the intent of it and our intent is to keep it in that area.

[3:09:29] It's just the cost of construction now for a double tiered building with structural, you know, holding back great and all that stuff is really driving the price up to them to millions.

[3:09:41] So, that's really what we're going to know.

[3:09:43] You know, you know, you're saying, yes.

[3:09:45] 5 million, even.

[3:09:46] So, you close to that point.

[3:09:48] So, you know, these are not low numbers that we're talking about.

[3:09:51] And we're just carefully going through that process.

[3:09:54] Yeah, I'm not criticizing.

[3:09:55] I'm just putting myself on the stand.

[3:09:57] Does a year give you enough time to figure it out?

[3:10:00] We hope so, yeah. We're not taking our foot off the gas. We're moving this. It takes time to get the pricing and to evaluate the different items.

[3:10:11] And there's nothing else that's holding it up really. Not that I'm aware of.

[3:10:16] Okay, page two of three, the third recital,

[3:10:21] am I reading this wrong?

[3:10:23] It says, where's the applicant?

[3:10:24] Which is top rate, a limited golf club on the property

[3:10:26] for the 2023 golf season?

[3:10:29] Shouldn't that be the 2024 golf season?

[3:10:34] I would, yes, I think that that language

[3:10:36] was in the first approval.

[3:10:39] So it would assume that it would be 2024, correct?

[3:10:41] All right, so we should fix that.

[3:10:44] Yes, sure, okay, yeah.

[3:10:45] Thank you, I'll send you a bill.

[3:10:48] Any other comments or questions?

[3:10:50] No.

[3:10:51] We'll make the motion.

[3:10:51] Motion.

[3:10:52] We'll adopt the resolution.

[3:10:53] I'll make the motion.

[3:10:55] I'll second.

[3:10:55] All favor?

[3:10:56] Aye.

[3:10:56] We've done miscellaneous saved.

[3:10:58] Thank you.

[3:10:59] Thank you.

[3:11:01] I'll see.

[3:11:02] Consider approval of the payment application numbers two and three

[3:11:04] to grammar restoration for the Northcastle Public Library

[3:11:07] or Montgomery Branch Trust Project.

[3:11:09] I really looked in order there.

[3:11:11] Any other comments or questions on it?

[3:11:14] We'll make the motion.

[3:11:15] I'll second.

[3:11:16] All favor?

[3:11:17] Aye.

[3:11:18] And, indeed, consider approval of the following proposals,

[3:11:20] Kellogg Sessions Consulting, Engineering, and Architectural Planning,

[3:11:25] DPC to T-C and T-C Marits.

[3:11:28] Survey is for global road park baseball fields,

[3:11:30] North White Plains, and we throw the parks and record advisory board.

[3:11:32] This is from Matt Train, our superintendent,

[3:11:35] any comments or questions?

[3:11:37] Yeah.

[3:11:38] This came up in the park and record advisory board meeting a couple times.

[3:11:43] So, it's not totally clear to me and to others

[3:11:47] on the park and record advisory board as to whether or not we need to spend money on a capital

[3:11:51] project on a closed road field or not.

[3:11:54] I definitely think from the research I've done in people I've spoken to that there's

[3:11:58] a need for increase maintenance on the field.

[3:12:03] But what we decided in the park and record advisory board to recommend to the time board

[3:12:08] and hence this memo is why don't we get Keller to look at it and help us figure out if

[3:12:13] this is really going to be something that we need or not.

[3:12:15] But it's not totally clear that there's a capital need here.

[3:12:21] Well, I mean, I was, I think I mentioned this at another board meeting, that Bob

[3:12:25] Candria, who's been very active with the little lead program at Clove Road field, has said

[3:12:33] this has been an issue for 10 years, and there's just, as he's explained it, and I saw it

[3:12:39] and I met him on the phone, that there is definitely a gap, so to speak, maybe a gap

[3:12:47] is not the right word, but it's just that where the outfield meets the infield.

[3:12:53] You can see that there is definitely a difference in terms of the height, and you know it's

[3:13:02] just, it's sometimes are prone to injuries, and you know they just feel very strongly that

[3:13:08] this is something that they've been asking for a decade to be addressed and it's I believe

[3:13:13] in their opinion has gotten worse and you know this is a very important field to those

[3:13:20] children and I think that we should we should in a first of all I don't think that you

[3:13:30] know we certainly neglect our field here in our monk and I'm not saying that you're saying

[3:13:35] We should neglect, but I think this is something that we should move forward with, and it

[3:13:41] was something that Bob Kendria said that no matter who the was head of the Parks and

[3:13:46] Rec Department, that person said, yes, you're right.

[3:13:50] Yes, we'll do it, and it just got a page of hope.

[3:13:53] So I think it's important that we move forward with it.

[3:13:56] Yeah, look, in terms of like a gap between how field and field, I think that that's me sounds

[3:14:01] more like a maintenance issue than like a big CAPAX project.

[3:14:04] I spoke to two people who, one as a board member and one as a passport member, of Kansas

[3:14:11] Go Little League, and their point of view was, there's a maintenance need, there's an AD need,

[3:14:19] just for all sports, and especially there to have a defibrillator outside, as opposed to inside,

[3:14:25] the North by Plains Community Center, but not a capital project need, but, you know,

[3:14:30] I don't think that they want their name on TV, but I'm okay with us moving forward with having

[3:14:40] Kellard look at it, which is what the Park and Reck of Advisory Board's recommendation was.

[3:14:46] I'm fine either way.

[3:14:47] I mean, it's not a lot of money, but it is money.

[3:14:50] 20,000 people who are watching.

[3:14:53] Those fields are are important.

[3:14:54] I drive past them every single day.

[3:14:56] I think our parks department, and I told them last week they do an excellent job.

[3:15:00] May taining those fields, but they need some help. The fields are always in very good shape on both fields.

[3:15:09] So, whatever is the path, if you want to wait a little bit, you guys pick it up next year.

[3:15:13] See if Keller says, you know, really, this is the way to go. Let me go that route.

[3:15:18] So, when I'm ever still looking to waste money, but those fields do need attention. They're important. It's an important part of the town.

[3:15:24] And we should be paying close attention to him.

[3:15:27] And Bob is committed to the program for so many years.

[3:15:31] And he knows them.

[3:15:32] And they've put a lot of money in their time

[3:15:33] into them as well to keep them as good as good.

[3:15:36] And there's also another issue that I think, once again,

[3:15:38] an engineering study would certainly look at,

[3:15:42] is that there's a stream that runs behind the house

[3:15:48] that is in the last house on Clove Road.

[3:15:50] And when we get a really heavy rain, the stream obviously becomes swollen and you just have

[3:15:57] a lot of water.

[3:15:57] I have pictures where you just see the water sitting there.

[3:16:00] And so I think there probably needs to be some drainage work.

[3:16:04] So I think it's more than just maintenance from what I've seen and what I've been told.

[3:16:09] So I would like to move forward with this proposal.

[3:16:12] But that's one of the reasons why I'm going to say something, so I was going to ask a question

[3:16:17] to Matt, but why don't you go ahead and then I can ask?

[3:16:19] I actually, do you mind if I just, I'll go for it's a lane to go first.

[3:16:25] So, you know, it's interesting because I spoke to one of these two people brought up the stream in the flooding.

[3:16:30] They're perspective on it.

[3:16:31] And we also talked about this at the park and recognize report, meaning I believe.

[3:16:35] They're perfect on it.

[3:16:36] There's a difference between flooding periodically that can occur because you're really near a stream or a water source and drainage.

[3:16:44] Right, so Lamberti Park is, you know, got a major drainage issue.

[3:16:49] If it rains, it could be muddy there for three days after it rains and the sun.

[3:16:53] But, like, for example, Wampusburg Park, you can get, you know, an inch of rain,

[3:16:58] or two inches of rain, and it looks like half of Wampusburg Park is under water,

[3:17:01] but then it recedes quickly.

[3:17:03] And I think that's really the distinction.

[3:17:05] And that's a very challenging problem to fix,

[3:17:07] that would require, I mean, all sorts of, you know, water control work to be done.

[3:17:14] It's probably in practical, but I'm okay with Keller looking at this and telling us they're

[3:17:20] professional opinion of it.

[3:17:22] And Barbara, just so I understand I agree, the problem that a house has is a serious problem

[3:17:28] that'd be great to be able to fix, but you say that you would do that as part of this.

[3:17:32] If it fits in with the park, I'm saying that I think that an engineer would be looking at

[3:17:39] fields, and this is affecting that, you know, one of the fields, not just that that would

[3:17:44] be part of the study.

[3:17:47] All right.

[3:17:47] So let me ask you something that you're, I may have the more famous last name and baseball,

[3:17:52] but you know a lot more about sports and fields, is there a reason, I mean with all the talent

[3:17:58] we have in town, and I agree if it's important, we should go ahead with it.

[3:18:03] And that's not a notion of armunk, North White Plains back so it's a matter of having

[3:18:08] fields and good shape for people, but don't we have someone who can kind of figure out by looking

[3:18:14] at it instead of doing a whole engineering study? Is there particular rationale for doing

[3:18:20] the engineering study? Was it unanimous from the Parks and Rec board? Was it dissent? I don't remember

[3:18:28] there being, I don't remember there being an actual formal vote. It was a discussion, so I don't

[3:18:33] Now, on the park and record in terms of descent, I also don't know, you know, if we have

[3:18:39] people in town who are qualified or not, so like, you know, know all the things that I

[3:18:43] know, Kellard obviously would, as a professional engineer wouldn't know more.

[3:18:48] But the people I spoke to, like I said, articulated that the issue is more of a maintenance

[3:18:52] issue than a capital project issue, could you come up with capital projects that could make

[3:18:57] the field better?

[3:18:58] I'm sure, I'm sure you could do it with any field, but it's not like, you know, a field

[3:19:03] that has some really obvious capital project

[3:19:08] constraint as far as I was told the way with,

[3:19:11] let's say, Limbardi would have,

[3:19:12] where you go to Limbardi and say,

[3:19:13] unless you spend capital to put in drainage

[3:19:16] and truck in a crazy amount of topsoil,

[3:19:20] you're not gonna have a playable field,

[3:19:22] which is really a capital project

[3:19:24] that needs to address it.

[3:19:25] Like I said, I'm okay with us pursuing and looking into it.

[3:19:29] It's not, to me, I think the more obvious need is maintenance.

[3:19:32] So let me ask you something on that, does it make sense as a first step to talk to Kellard to

[3:19:42] look at it and see whether it might be a main end issue as opposed to going ahead with more formal

[3:19:48] thing? Do they go with your barber when you want? No, it was just Larry and I'll can't do it.

[3:19:56] Because that might be a good approach.

[3:19:59] Yeah, boom.

[3:20:00] I think you need to get matrainer sending us a recommendation to do this. So pause on it, that's fine.

[3:20:07] But I think you need to have Matt obviously believes this in the path to go. So Matt's got to be included in this, maybe bug canterie as well.

[3:20:15] And if you want to pause on it, it sounds like we should, because I don't think there's enough support here for it.

[3:20:20] But I wouldn't, I wouldn't just discard it. I'd do some more due diligence and say, what is really driving this? Why do they really think that this is the way to go?

[3:20:27] and maybe money you need to spend in the context of things.

[3:20:30] It's not a lot of money for those fields because they're used all the time for football,

[3:20:35] for soccer, for softball, for baseball, so they're heavily used.

[3:20:40] My thought is that we go ahead with it, but if you look at the page 5 of 7, the cost of

[3:20:44] services, it's phased.

[3:20:46] And so I think we go ahead with it, but ask Keller to get back to us after their initial

[3:20:51] preliminary look.

[3:20:52] Yeah, exactly before they spend all the money to just tell us what they think.

[3:20:56] So start with the base mapping phase you know exactly and ask them to come and just talk to us and tell us

[3:21:01] We're telling Matt Trainer who could tell us if they think there's a gap because you know

[3:21:05] I know a lot about athletic fields, but I'm not an engineer qualified to really know if there's an easier capital project or not

[3:21:12] Yeah, Mike I thought you and I were more on the same wavelength, but that's exactly what I'm saying

[3:21:17] Yeah, you know, not slowed down not pause it, but have them go out first with the idea of is this maintenance can I fix it

[3:21:24] things like that. That's fine. I thought you were saying let's not do this and let's talk

[3:21:29] to Kellogg first, but if you're saying let's approve this, but phase it contingent, we

[3:21:34] can't do that. I mean,

[3:21:37] I really think, because I think we should move forward with this

[3:21:41] and not table it. So we need a motion to do. So I had a question about the users of the fields,

[3:21:52] This field like who so one thing that is not clear to me and I'd love to bring through the process

[3:21:59] Like the folks that are actually utilizing these fields their voices and what they're doing this issue

[3:22:05] Like I've heard it as through others, but I'd love to hear it directly with them either like I can call them separately or they can actually be part of that

[3:22:13] I could give you about came to contact

[3:22:15] Yeah, that's certainly okay, but like I think

[3:22:18] And given where this is going, this conversation, I think one thing that could be really great

[3:22:23] for the town also is to have more visibility to what's needed on those fields.

[3:22:28] So if we, if we give a green light to color getting started, and then we have like a time

[3:22:36] point, it's after that first phase of work where color comes in presents, it'll be good

[3:22:46] And then have them come and also react as part of that session.

[3:22:52] I think that would be really great because that's the part that is fuzzy to me right now.

[3:22:58] I've heard things from multiple residents about whether we should look at the fields,

[3:23:04] maybe we should look at the fields for a full road.

[3:23:07] But actually none of those people so far have been people that have been using it directly.

[3:23:12] So, I'd love to have those folks come forward and talk about what those needs are, because they might be very different, or they might be exactly this, I just don't know.

[3:23:23] It's fine. I mean, I know Bob Kendria is all over this, so he's maybe it's weighted, but he lives in breathe these fields for cancer, plus there are other fields that are in Valhalla.

[3:23:36] So, he's a pretty good barometer on how he feels about it, but that's fine. I think we should approve this.

[3:23:42] And then do what you just said next early next year, well, it's still not the spring months and try to get more closure on it.

[3:23:50] And could you agree right now, like, or not necessarily agree, but like, would you mind just pointing out who those people are that we do see as important voices?

[3:23:59] It's just like I have a little bit of one as Bob can for you, and I'll give you his contact information.

[3:24:04] Okay.

[3:24:04] Football, youth football, you have soccer.

[3:24:07] And who is that?

[3:24:08] I don't know.

[3:24:08] You have to look at it.

[3:24:09] I just say when I see what I drive past those fields twice a day.

[3:24:14] And I don't think we use them for soft learning more for town.

[3:24:16] I used to play down there.

[3:24:17] But I could tell you when I played down there and I played in field that lip was not, it was

[3:24:23] dangerous.

[3:24:24] So far, it's really just, it's so dangerous.

[3:24:27] But again, they literally use it probably more than anybody.

[3:24:32] Those fields.

[3:24:34] And then you'd have to look up to the youth leagues for youth football and soccer.

[3:24:37] And anybody else that use it?

[3:24:38] So it's a girl's soccer.

[3:24:40] I don't know.

[3:24:41] So youth football, soccer.

[3:24:44] Anyone else?

[3:24:45] I don't know.

[3:24:46] I don't know.

[3:24:46] Sorry, you don't need to know everything.

[3:24:48] I thought it was like...

[3:24:49] I would just...

[3:24:49] I'd try to figure out who contracts to use the fields and then go that route.

[3:24:54] So yeah, maybe then it's about asking mat trainer for the list of who you'd use is the

[3:25:00] And then having each of those folks be notified that we're going to do this. And then I'd love to know who those people are. So it would be nice to when we get the list from Matt trainer for that to be shared. Then I think we can get a good voice and then understand what to do.

[3:25:22] Yeah,

[3:25:25] okay.

[3:25:26] So, I'm most hungry from the time.

[3:25:28] You know, this is just one point.

[3:25:29] And Angela will support me in this, I think.

[3:25:32] I was not a little late board for 18 years

[3:25:33] and responsible for field maintenance for a lot of that time

[3:25:36] and scheduling.

[3:25:38] Those lips are created by coaches shoveling water off.

[3:25:43] And we had a major undertaking to bring hand pumps in.

[3:25:47] That's where you saw those big canisters behind home plate

[3:25:52] And with buckets to pump that into the buckets, that's the main reason.

[3:25:56] So I think the record needs to really try to educate the baseball leagues.

[3:26:01] So use that, that people are not to take brooms or brushes and sweep that water off.

[3:26:05] Because that's exactly what creates the lips on the inside and the outside of the infield.

[3:26:10] And some out of education to the leagues and the coaches.

[3:26:12] Did you have success with that, Neil?

[3:26:14] Educating?

[3:26:15] Well, we did that throughout the end of my term.

[3:26:18] you know, so I can't comment as to whether it's hard to stop coaches from

[3:26:22] shoving the water off the field and it's like a thing everybody's done for

[3:26:24] years without realizing that that's exactly what's building the lip up as

[3:26:28] opposed to pumping it in and carrying that water off and don't begin off on

[3:26:32] the side so I can't answer that question. Okay. So if that's it. Okay, I just

[3:26:38] actually had a question to make sure I understood that. So the education that we

[3:26:42] need to make sure is provided that's something that you see as something

[3:26:46] parks and wreck? Well, I think parks and wreck board can talk to the youth leagues to baseball

[3:26:51] leagues and make sure and softball leagues to make sure they're not shoveling the water off

[3:26:57] and that they're using a hand pump for the standing water and then moving the standing water off

[3:27:04] the field and dumping it on the side. I think it's a matter of somebody educating the leagues and

[3:27:09] reminding them that this is why those lips build up. And just from your experience,

[3:27:15] Who is in a position to best be listened to when it comes to this?

[3:27:20] Well, the lead commissioners would be whoever's in charge of each one of the leads

[3:27:23] to tell them to make sure they're instructing the coaches.

[3:27:25] And they have coaches meetings every year, so.

[3:27:27] Cool.

[3:27:28] Thank you.

[3:27:30] Yeah.

[3:27:33] Very familiar.

[3:27:34] Very familiar with me all the same.

[3:27:38] Has anybody ever done a study to see what it would cost to actually have maintenance

[3:27:45] people available on weekends.

[3:27:48] We shouldn't have coaches sweeping water off the field.

[3:27:54] Maybe there should be a study done to see maybe it will cost you $50,000 a year to have

[3:28:00] a maintenance guy on the weekend and they'll save you extra maintenance on the fields.

[3:28:06] Because that's, you know, meals right.

[3:28:08] We had coaches, we had out there Saturday mornings and you know, it wasn't, we didn't

[3:28:13] know what we were doing.

[3:28:14] But if you had a main in this guy who was out there with a, with a, with a, with the machine and things like that, maybe could save money that way as well.

[3:28:23] I think that makes a lot of sense. You know, one of the conversations I'll revisit it with him.

[3:28:27] One of the conversations I had with that trainer a couple of months ago was about putting up signs on the baseball fields in all Northcastle.

[3:28:36] You know, you're not permit coaches are not permitted to do field maintenance unless they've spoken in sat down with Matt Trainer for five minutes to, you know, get a permit from him.

[3:28:47] Where he explains to get the permit, this is proper field maintenance and what you're supposed to do.

[3:28:52] I know that they do line sometimes in the weekend, but I think your point is right that we need better field maintenance overall.

[3:29:00] I think it's a big part of the solution.

[3:29:03] So what I would say, I think we were talking about approving this, I agree, let's move forward.

[3:29:08] It's not clear to me, in addition to the costs that are here of how much is it?

[3:29:15] 19,000 and then 35,225, but really 19,000 in the first couple of phases.

[3:29:22] But then there's an extra 69,50 from land surveyors.

[3:29:26] I'm not sure how early in the process, if it's in, I suspect it's one of the earlier parts.

[3:29:31] As a preliminary to this, I would just get together with Kellard and have him give a sense whether it is worth going down this road.

[3:29:38] And if he confirms that.

[3:29:39] So, can somebody clarify a motion?

[3:29:41] I need we need to move on.

[3:29:42] I'm not going to move on, too.

[3:29:43] What's the motion?

[3:29:44] I'd like to, I would like to make a motion to approve the following proposal from Kellard Session.

[3:29:51] It's consulting engineering and landscaping for and merits for the closed field.

[3:29:57] But stay.

[3:29:57] But what about the stage?

[3:29:59] And so we're going to look.

[3:30:00] We're going to ask if we can see the results of the first phase, and is it maintenance versus this? Is it a four word that really we need to do some work to do?

[3:30:10] That's a lot of motion. I mean, summarize that.

[3:30:13] Before we try to summarize it, more simply, the statement you just made was, I think, on the first phase, like, pausing after the first phase.

[3:30:21] And when we talk about the first phase, I think we're just talking about the base mapping phase.

[3:30:26] If that's, but what I just, just based on this discussion,

[3:30:31] I just don't know if that first phase is of any value.

[3:30:35] Actually, because that first phase doesn't provide any kind of recommendation,

[3:30:38] it only provides mapping of the space.

[3:30:42] You know, it just shows you like basically artifacts that show what it is that we already see.

[3:30:47] Like we can show that from a satellite image.

[3:30:49] So, the thing I'm just wondering Barbara is if there's a way to re-phase the project so that we could

[3:30:56] rather than spending $2,017,000, if we could spend $5,000 to do some preliminary kind of thing.

[3:31:04] What are we asking Kevin?

[3:31:05] What are we asking Kevin to speak with engineers in New York?

[3:31:09] Well, that's what I'm going to suggest is table list.

[3:31:11] Okay.

[3:31:12] That's a shame.

[3:31:12] No, I don't know if it's a shame.

[3:31:14] I think it is.

[3:31:15] You know, you're going to pick it up in three weeks or so

[3:31:17] in the meantime Kevin can sit with if you guys are okay with it look Matt and

[3:31:21] the engineer maybe go down there and to Matt

[3:31:26] Millum's point what what do we really need here and is this accomplishing it and

[3:31:31] it might be and they might say this is exactly why we propose this because this is

[3:31:35] accomplishing what you want which is a look so but it might just be back to the point

[3:31:39] you may are the head of parts of the record has recommended this you know and he

[3:31:43] He's met with Bob Candrea.

[3:31:46] He has met, I forget who I'll see met with.

[3:31:49] But I mean, I just think that that trainer wouldn't have made

[3:31:55] this recommendation if he didn't think that, indeed,

[3:31:58] we needed to fix these two fields.

[3:32:01] We're flying a little blind here.

[3:32:03] I think what you should do is do what you want.

[3:32:07] But we're asking questions and we don't have people here

[3:32:10] to answer them.

[3:32:11] So maybe you have a work session in early January

[3:32:13] and get mad here, and Bob Canjury here,

[3:32:15] and maybe other people from the leagues and Kevin,

[3:32:18] and get this right versus approving it,

[3:32:22] and then we're not sure if it's right or not.

[3:32:23] Like Barbara, for example, there's things in here

[3:32:25] in the scope of services they talk about grading improvements

[3:32:30] fine, irrigation, the field doesn't need irrigation.

[3:32:35] I don't think he was trying to.

[3:32:36] It says irrigation, looking in the paragraph of scope of services.

[3:32:41] I'm not against doing this, by the way.

[3:32:42] So, like your comment to say, this is a shame as if we're not doing it, I don't think

[3:32:46] it's fair.

[3:32:47] I'm just saying, let's just do it intelligently.

[3:32:49] That's all.

[3:32:50] And I can't tell you if it needs irrigation, I don't know.

[3:32:54] And I just want to make a comment with which of the board agrees would just be guidance

[3:32:57] to Kevin, which is as we are to Barbara, if you're discussing this as well.

[3:33:03] So, I think two things first, I do think it's really a good Barbara for you, like if you

[3:33:10] and Matt work closely together on the fields.

[3:33:13] I recommend it only because I think that the process

[3:33:17] we've taken so far for the other fields,

[3:33:20] I think that it would be nice to be,

[3:33:22] I'll just aligned and using the same process.

[3:33:25] And then the other piece was just based on what I learned

[3:33:29] in this car station, which I thought was really valuable.

[3:33:32] I think it would be nice to look for recommendations

[3:33:36] from Kellard, or from the team, the coaches, not just on capital

[3:33:44] programs, but also on other kinds of things that...

[3:33:48] Whether it might be maintenance.

[3:33:51] You could just, the broad spectrum of things that can be done to improve the use of the fields.

[3:33:57] Because it sounds like there's various things that could be done.

[3:33:59] So I'd love to do like a full, not delay anything, but just like actually

[3:34:05] think through what are the best things we can do for the field, you know, and make those

[3:34:10] things happen. So is there a motion to table, a motion to prove what's the motion?

[3:34:18] Do you want to remake a different motion? Do you want to remake a different motion?

[3:34:22] Otherwise I can make one part of it. Do you like to do something different?

[3:34:31] I mean, I bang it clear. I really would like to go forward with this. I understand the rest

[3:34:34] It doesn't feel that way, so, you know, I'll go with them, you know, whatever you want to do.

[3:34:40] That's not true.

[3:34:41] I'm fine with this going forward with this.

[3:34:42] I just think we should do it in an intelligent way and know the problem that we're fixing.

[3:34:46] A little bit different way.

[3:34:49] But not to say this is not an intelligent way.

[3:34:50] It's a slain's point.

[3:34:52] You're saying that we're going to spend two grand from mapping.

[3:34:56] And what are we going to learn from that?

[3:34:58] And then you got the next chunk.

[3:35:00] 17,000, which is most of this call. And that first phase may be more than 2,000, because we got the serving person. I'm not sure where that fits in.

[3:35:08] So somebody please make a decision.

[3:35:09] So I'd like to make a motion here.

[3:35:11] Yes. So I'd like to make a motion to table this proposal and come back in January with this on the agenda for discussion.

[3:35:23] And I would recommend even a work session or something where you're going to get these stakeholders involved.

[3:35:28] Okay.

[3:35:29] Good for this in the meantime, Kevin can at least have some advanced conversations so

[3:35:33] he can express the concern that some of the work that we're going to see.

[3:35:37] So I'd like to remake that motion to table this recommendation and then come back in January

[3:35:42] with the work session on the agenda.

[3:35:45] And is it, is it all Kevin, can you at least meet on site with Kellard, be sure a work session?

[3:35:54] Absolutely.

[3:35:54] So that Kellogg has some idea what we're talking about I'd like to be there, too, if it's okay

[3:36:04] I start off with the motion is is the motion to table it and then have a meeting

[3:36:09] Yeah, we can just table this for all right. I think they have a label guys figure out the instructions for a five-minute biobrake

[3:36:18] Yeah, I'm in a biobrake. Thank you

[3:36:20] Go quick. Yes,

[3:36:24] we'll get your home soon. Yeah, I've been like just

[3:40:00] I got to go and put my garbage can.

[3:42:43] I was to cue. Are you ready? We're on.

[3:42:46] We're Jason's aware and he will start the cameras.

[3:43:01] I'm not waiting for you. I'm not waiting for you.

[3:43:03] Recording in progress.

[3:43:05] Okay.

[3:43:07] So we're going to do five A.P. and I, some of the cities here are a director or a superintendent of water and sewer.

[3:43:13] So, the first item is consider approval of public water, main easement agreement with

[3:43:17] the Environmental Essentials School District, number one, and provide a public water

[3:43:20] to Lombardi Park, an authorization for the supervisor to sign the agreement.

[3:43:24] Any comments or questions?

[3:43:28] I have the original agreement, and I forgot to bring it, but I'll get it to you.

[3:43:32] And again, I think it's said it somewhere, and we talked about it.

[3:43:35] This doesn't mean we're going forward with being in the district.

[3:43:38] It's just...

[3:43:38] But the filming that someday something may happen there, it's good for us to go.

[3:43:43] We're advancing the ball.

[3:43:45] Okay, all right, so I'll make a motion on that also I can on favor next and nothing to comment on that sound we're good

[3:44:06] This is the idea you're talking about the idea of doing like an eight inch

[3:44:13] Well, we'll see. We'll have to kick that around and see what the economics look like.

[3:44:18] And the purpose of doing that is we've discussed in the past would be if you have eight

[3:44:21] inch and then you want to bring water out.

[3:44:24] It depends on the health department.

[3:44:26] So we have to talk about and federal that out.

[3:44:28] Not saying there aren't other obstacles, but the idea of an eight inch.

[3:44:31] We're going to talk about.

[3:44:33] But let me just say the idea of an eight inch for people are watching.

[3:44:36] Is that then potentially you could use that to bring public water up to that area?

[3:44:40] To that area in the future.

[3:44:41] Yeah, if it's feasible.

[3:44:43] We'll say, great.

[3:44:44] Some stay there, sounds so I'm B, consider what a bit of slack

[3:44:48] chemical for 2024 to do with district number two.

[3:44:50] Methanel supply and authorization for the supervisor

[3:44:52] to sign the agreement and then comment the question.

[3:44:55] It's really looked in good order.

[3:44:56] I just have one question.

[3:44:58] What were the prices before?

[3:45:00] Do you remember off the top of your head?

[3:45:02] There were slightly less, a full load was about 50, 59, 100 or something like that.

[3:45:09] That surprises a lot.

[3:45:11] Just so you know, this is the same company we could actually jump.

[3:45:15] We really can't jump on their bid. They supply the county with methanol.

[3:45:20] But the county uses a hundred percent.

[3:45:22] Our processes is only 20 percent, so they make a special solution for us.

[3:45:26] So they're really the only bidder that can make it.

[3:45:29] Yeah, okay. Thank you.

[3:45:31] So a motion to award.

[3:45:33] I'll make the motion.

[3:45:34] How's the second?

[3:45:35] On favor.

[3:45:36] I want to jump to I and then we'll jump back to see.

[3:45:39] Consider approval of amendment and agreement with Langen

[3:45:41] Engineering for Consulting Services or Services in.

[3:45:45] What are just a number two related to windmill wells.

[3:45:48] PFOAs, treatment, pilot study and authorization for the supervisor

[3:45:51] to sign the agreement.

[3:45:53] And the y'all stand, everything will come through.

[3:45:54] Just so everybody knows what this is.

[3:45:56] This is an approval of the health department,

[3:46:00] yet from the health department to do this.

[3:46:03] The health department requires that you put in

[3:46:05] install a mini plant, so to speak,

[3:46:08] to do the same purpose of what the final plant would be,

[3:46:11] and they want to see how it works.

[3:46:14] So it's a pilot, and we have to install this equipment.

[3:46:17] Run it for a period of time.

[3:46:20] Collect samples, all kinds of data.

[3:46:22] They technically want to see it until the PFOA's breakthrough, but the manufacturer, the

[3:46:28] engineer, originally specified a 12-week period, the manufacturer of the components

[3:46:33] that they're installing, recommends doing it for 16 weeks.

[3:46:37] That's what the extra cost is, plus they have to put in the 20,000 gallon frack tank to

[3:46:44] collect the water that comes out of it because there's no sewer up there, and we can't

[3:46:48] charge onto the you know well. So it has to be carted away and that's cost. So there's some

[3:46:58] additional things and they are worked out with them to kind of reduce this a little bit.

[3:47:02] So they're extra and it's not too exceed because it could very well be we don't end up you know

[3:47:07] we might find other ways to maybe work something out with the hauling of the water back to the

[3:47:14] because we're working out in a range from within

[3:47:16] that they can discharge it at the wastewater plant

[3:47:18] with such as the use savings.

[3:47:21] And so we'll see, but the additional cost is 668 for everything.

[3:47:26] That includes the samples, the renting, the tank, all the whole.

[3:47:30] And the pumping back and forth.

[3:47:33] 66,000, 800?

[3:47:35] That's the, their additional proposal, yeah.

[3:47:39] And this is the same process you talked about before.

[3:47:42] It's kind of got to do testing and all that.

[3:47:44] that's what it is. Yeah, we have to monitor it for that period of time and we submitted

[3:47:49] to the health department and say this is what the data showed us with this type of treatment

[3:47:57] and then we go to design to put the ultimate treatment in to finalize the, you know, put a real

[3:48:04] treatment system in after the fact. Given that you saved this $800,000, especially with a grant,

[3:48:12] I'm certainly a favor if you're suggesting that he is not in this district though.

[3:48:17] I have a chance to come back to you.

[3:48:20] So there's a motion to consider the approval of the amendment.

[3:48:23] I'll make it.

[3:48:23] I'll make the motion.

[3:48:25] I'll second.

[3:48:25] All in favor.

[3:48:26] Great.

[3:48:27] Thank you.

[3:48:27] Let's jump back to see.

[3:48:29] We have several people in the audience here for that.

[3:48:31] Consider what are the bid to Santa Pro disposal services to collect in the

[3:48:34] Spose of Refuse from January 1st of the coming year through the sort of

[3:48:39] December 31st, 29th.

[3:48:41] I know what the rise of the supervisor to sign.

[3:48:43] We have the proposal, we have the escalators in it, we pause at the last meeting because

[3:48:49] there was discussion around how to collect recyclables, anybody want to provide input or

[3:48:54] comment on that.

[3:48:55] We also have the contractor here as well.

[3:48:58] I want to say a few things.

[3:49:00] So I always curious, not that this is the only factor we should be taking to account, but

[3:49:03] I was curious to hear what residents thought about this, which is kind of where we left

[3:49:08] at last time.

[3:49:09] So I sent around in my last town video a survey, 300 and 30 people I think responded and the responses were just everybody has the information.

[3:49:22] The responses were roughly 40% of people that wanted it to stay the way it is.

[3:49:27] 50% of people that wanted once a week pick up, but recycling car were plastic every week.

[3:49:37] So that was the option that was roughly $80,000 more, and roughly 10% of people wanted twice a week pick-up.

[3:49:43] Can you just say the breakdown again?

[3:49:45] 40% wanted it the way it was.

[3:49:48] 50% wanted once a week pick-up, but you could recycle everything.

[3:49:53] So you're not the store two weeks of stuff.

[3:49:56] And 10% of people wanted twice a week pick-up.

[3:49:59] And just this is more...

[3:50:00] Also just for the town's knowledge that are listening, the way you pose the question. If I understood correctly, you pose it with also sharing the costs.

[3:50:11] So when people responded to that, they weren't purely responding to what they want absent of the costs. They also were responding to it, given what the additional costs would be. Is that correct?

[3:50:22] Yeah, I want 100% but I also think there's other things, I got, you know, I have a view

[3:50:27] but I also think there are other things we should take into account too, like, you know,

[3:50:31] there is the point about contamination of having, but I also think there's greater adoption

[3:50:36] of recycling too, and this is also, you know, not just the recycling decision, it's also

[3:50:41] a service decision, the kind of service we want to provide residents.

[3:50:45] So I think there's a lot of factors to consider by one, everybody to have the same information I did

[3:50:49] on what people said.

[3:50:52] Also, the second question I asked was how strongly people felt about this.

[3:50:57] And most people were either very strongly or strongly.

[3:51:01] Very few people were actually neutral.

[3:51:04] So this is actually something people do care about.

[3:51:06] If you scored it because I did this because I'm a nerd.

[3:51:10] As a one-scorer, if you felt neutral, a two-scorer, if you felt strongly, a three-scorer, if you felt very strongly.

[3:51:16] It was at 2.57 average, so people on average felt very strongly, and there was really no difference between the three options,

[3:51:22] as to whether or not people felt very strongly or not, if you, you know, this scores were about the same, the strength score.

[3:51:30] And there's a self-selection in there of people that did the survey.

[3:51:36] Yeah.

[3:51:39] You know.

[3:51:39] You don't want to pick one.

[3:51:45] That was so important.

[3:51:50] All right.

[3:51:50] Head of B.

[3:51:51] What the wrong way on this side.

[3:51:53] I am Neil Singer, the co-chair of the Sustainability Committee.

[3:51:58] Before I get to what we wrote up something that to read from the committee based on this,

[3:52:05] I do have one issue about this survey though.

[3:52:07] The problem is the survey didn't say that there would be contamination if you did it all

[3:52:12] in the same day.

[3:52:13] Like people assumed I think, because I spoke to some people, that it's the same dual-stream

[3:52:18] pickup, but it's just going to happen every week.

[3:52:21] And therefore, then the cost is only the transportation, but I checked with suburban

[3:52:26] carating and they can't do that.

[3:52:28] Trucks can't physically do it, so they have to contaminate the stream.

[3:52:32] So I think it would be great to do another survey where we actually indicate sort of the

[3:52:37] pluses and minuses and go out.

[3:52:39] I mean, I think it's a great idea to do a survey though.

[3:52:42] That's my personal view from the committee implementing single stream recycling, which is

[3:52:47] what would happen if we did it once a week.

[3:52:49] would be a step backwards for the community.

[3:52:52] There's always a sizable proportion of residents

[3:52:54] that attack alternate week recycling

[3:52:56] because they feel burdened by their trash.

[3:52:58] However, the solution isn't changing trash.

[3:53:00] Pick up the solution is learning how to recycle right.

[3:53:03] The North Castle sustainability committee is prepared

[3:53:06] to pioneer how to recycle right educational campaign

[3:53:09] to teach residents how to properly sort the trash.

[3:53:13] For the purpose of this meeting,

[3:53:14] we need to recognize that the two largest negatives

[3:53:16] is the single stream recycling is reduction of quality and increased cost.

[3:53:21] When recyclables get contaminated by trash, they become trash.

[3:53:26] Creating hierarchies for its disposal, the experience of suburban

[3:53:29] carting is that 30% of recycling becomes trash due to single stream

[3:53:33] contamination.

[3:53:34] So instead of going forward and recycling more, we actually create more trash.

[3:53:39] It takes more energy to sort out a single stream trash.

[3:53:42] In fact, suburban cells are only one carrier to that actually we'll do it in that can actually do the single stream.

[3:53:53] So, results in more fees on the processing also more plastic bags, right in their ways into the sorting lines.

[3:53:58] So, altering weak recycling is statistically proven to have two crucial benefits. First, it's incentive to reduce your consumption of recyclables.

[3:54:06] most. Alternate week recycling creates a clear link between consumption habits and waste disposal.

[3:54:11] The same way you don't want to see your cases of empty water bottles in the garage for 14 days

[3:54:15] there's very little demand for anyone else to want it either. Second, cost savings. According

[3:54:20] to the EPA reduction, reducing the frequency of recycling collection can result in cost savings

[3:54:26] from municipalities as we've seen in our own community. In our case it's an $86,000 a year

[3:54:34] and growing amount that we save by not doing single strain.

[3:54:40] So this Northcastle Standard Bill of Communities is not

[3:54:42] believe it's a good use of town funds to address resident complaints

[3:54:46] about having a large horde of cardboard boxes.

[3:54:48] We need to educate people that the proper way to recycle boxes to remove

[3:54:51] all the plastic tape, fold them into sheets and the bulk goes away as you

[3:54:57] to address complaints about.

[3:55:00] Recycling bins in smell, we need to educate people that recycles need to be rinsed well and should not smell. For example, the plastic peanut butter container is, you know, a soil, it's become trash.

[3:55:14] Anyway, the town has come far of last decade by implementing alternate, we're cycling. This year, we've grown further by initiating food scrap recycling program at Limbardi Park.

[3:55:24] thanks to this board. We put that in place. That's going to about to launch in January.

[3:55:29] And that's going to further reduce the trash. And so we're really trying to get this

[3:55:34] town to think about ways to reduce their, you know, the amount of their recycling that

[3:55:41] they're, that they buy that needs to be recycled. I think conclusion, the state of

[3:55:45] the community asked the board to recognize that the solution is not to spend more money

[3:55:49] hauling trash away. Solution is to educate residents and recycle rights so you pay less

[3:55:53] in tap rooms for a trash or mobile.

[3:55:57] That was from the the entire state of Billy board.

[3:56:00] I appreciate that.

[3:56:02] Thank you.

[3:56:03] And just comment, it's like really valuable input, thank you.

[3:56:08] And can you remind me if you have it on top of your head

[3:56:10] like how much the budget was for the state of Billy community

[3:56:14] to run the food scraps for $10,000.

[3:56:17] $10,000.

[3:56:18] So it's interesting to me because the difference

[3:56:21] and costs here of 86,000 for going to single stream, that money, if one were to use that.

[3:56:29] Let's say, just as an example, to instead educate the public on how to reduce waste, I expect

[3:56:35] that would have much greater impact as well.

[3:56:38] I think you're right.

[3:56:39] I think it was $786,000 budget there.

[3:56:42] Is that your idea?

[3:56:42] Yes.

[3:56:44] I just think that's an interesting way to think about it, is like how, what are the best ways

[3:56:50] to help our town move forward and doing this better.

[3:56:54] And just for background, the sustainability committee is very new.

[3:56:58] We've only been around for this year.

[3:57:01] Sort of the recycling and a townwide sustainability committee

[3:57:05] sort of went to funk during COVID.

[3:57:07] And so we started up, you know, this board started up again.

[3:57:11] And I, well, maybe we'll just take it off.

[3:57:14] Right, I made the mistake of a green and be chair.

[3:57:19] No, anyway, but in seriousness though, but it's so it's new and we're really trying to figure

[3:57:25] out how to do this.

[3:57:26] So I've got a lot of interest.

[3:57:27] We've got a lot of excitement on the committee and it's unbelievable what the people

[3:57:31] are really engaged and so I think, you know, education is a big part of it and if you guys

[3:57:36] have ideas and anybody else, it would really help.

[3:57:39] the kind of the sneaky thing that I was getting out here was I do think that we can do a lot more

[3:57:48] like with the food scraps program the current plan is to do one pick up on the in the armonke

[3:57:54] hamlet and I do think we can go faster and allow for more pick up locations in Northway Plains

[3:58:02] as well. So I'd love to put more effort into doing more in that space like just more of what you're

[3:58:09] And it started, what we'll do is we'll learn from it.

[3:58:11] And Barbara was a big push for North White Plains as well.

[3:58:16] And we spoke with Kevin about places to do it in North White Plains.

[3:58:21] I think once we get a little experience under belt with one location,

[3:58:23] we can quickly branch it out.

[3:58:26] But we just want to sort of get things launched.

[3:58:28] And a lot of it's going to be education from there.

[3:58:30] And teaching people how you're supposed to do it.

[3:58:33] What are the mechanics of it?

[3:58:36] You know, quick question, you mentioned 30% becomes trash with single stream. Is that 30% more than with dual stream or is it?

[3:58:44] Well, another, yeah, then with dual stream. So comparing dual stream to single stream.

[3:58:48] What happens is all that stuff gets put into this, gets merged together.

[3:58:52] Yeah. So that time it gets to the, to the facility, a lot of the cardboard is gotten contaminated or other, you know, the contamination is

[3:59:00] spread and then that reduces the quality of it.

[3:59:03] No, I got that thing I was really kind of just figure out, is it, is it 30% versus 0 for

[3:59:08] dual stream, or is it 30% for a single stream, and some other percent for a post stream?

[3:59:14] My numbers come from suburban carding, I can let it get 30% more of the difference.

[3:59:18] I think it's comparing the two, that 30%.

[3:59:21] Sorry, I'm Diane from suburban carding, sorry, I'm the my voice,

[3:59:26] what is your question

[3:59:27] I can answer?

[3:59:28] Yeah, so the question was, if we did single stream versus dual stream, Neil Lachin, 30% of the recyclables become contaminated with single stream, and I was curious if there's a comparable percentage for dual stream.

[3:59:42] Well, dual stream is two streams. Single stream is combined. So when you're combining paper and cardboard and plastic bottles and cans and the residue from it all, it contaminates it.

[3:59:53] So you're actually paying more money for single streams than you're paying for trash so you have recyclers sending

[4:00:00] Now recycling, separating it, doing the right thing, taking it away from the trash, and then

[4:00:05] it's interpaying more money for recycling, like that part of single-streaming makes no sense.

[4:00:11] The 30% comes in because that's what happens. It gets contaminated. So we have to bring

[4:00:17] it to a transportation and kinetic care. Where they charge us for single-stream knowing it's contaminated.

[4:00:23] And that facility at the end of the day, 30% of what they take in is garbage.

[4:00:30] So their number is counting, they're getting garbage from a single stream.

[4:00:35] I think Matt was asking is, if in dual stream, what does that mean to stand up so they can

[4:00:40] start with home?

[4:00:41] Yeah, so I think the question was, is, yeah, was it dual stream, what percentage is garbage

[4:00:47] when it goes dual stream, you know, is it a fair comparison?

[4:00:50] I think that's what it was exactly.

[4:00:54] Thank you.

[4:00:55] Well, I mean, we pick it up by how the President is putting it out.

[4:01:01] So you dictate to us.

[4:01:02] Right now it's plastic-bossing cans when we cardboard another week.

[4:01:06] So if you put the wrong material out or you combine it,

[4:01:09] we leave it.

[4:01:09] What it looks like.

[4:01:10] We don't want to take it.

[4:01:12] So I guess I don't understand your question.

[4:01:15] There is the contamination is the President who's not putting

[4:01:19] recyclables in their garbage, you know, that is putting the recyclables right now in the garbage.

[4:01:24] There's like no contamination with the way that we do it now because we own American paper

[4:01:29] mill supplies. So we are bringing your recycling to our facility where we can dissect the pot that

[4:01:37] that wasn't supposed to be in there or the pair of sneakers or electronic item. And then it was

[4:01:42] on a bigger trailer to win ways. So we wouldn't be able to do that if you chose single stream

[4:01:47] Because we don't accept single stream, we just clean our loads because we're primarily a paper and cardboard company.

[4:01:56] Well, got it. So I think basically you're saying, I think if I'm understanding the answer is zero.

[4:02:00] Right.

[4:02:01] That was my understanding.

[4:02:02] Right.

[4:02:03] Are you saying that when we do dual stream, then you got zero garbage?

[4:02:10] I'm not saying zero garbage, and we did do a actual report when we owned a transportation

[4:02:18] of America.

[4:02:19] And that was probably like 10 or 12 years ago where we sat there and dissected everything

[4:02:23] out.

[4:02:23] So I do have percentage of that.

[4:02:26] So we've already been through this over the years.

[4:02:29] I mean, I've been working with Spurping Learning 23 years, I've been the account rep and a recycling

[4:02:34] coordinator for a ton of Northcastle for that entire length of time.

[4:02:37] We had alternate week recycling here for the last five years now five years prior to that

[4:02:44] And that bid we had single stream and five years prior to that we had alternate week and when you do the alternate week

[4:02:50] You're proven recycling numbers go up wishes for county sends the reports out and Northcastle has been in the top three

[4:02:58] To I would say five at the least, but the highest recycling numbers

[4:03:02] So if I'm just just to summarize like, so you don't know what the percentages of the garbage

[4:03:08] in dual stream, but what you do know for sure is that there's just much more garbage

[4:03:13] in single stream.

[4:03:14] Yeah.

[4:03:15] Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[4:03:16] Everything gets contaminated.

[4:03:17] Glass breaks.

[4:03:19] So the residue is left in the jars.

[4:03:22] It's no way to, you know, and for it to have a resident, the generator, recycle it and not

[4:03:30] in the garbage, and then know that this recycling is getting contaminated and then to pay

[4:03:35] more for recycling single stream than to trash rate. I will be literally pay more for

[4:03:41] single stream recycling than garbage per pound per pound per pound per pound per pound per pound.

[4:03:49] That's embedded in the $80,000 or your difference. Oh yeah, absolutely. And your survey actually

[4:03:58] asked the question about single pickup for recycling, but didn't use the words to the

[4:04:04] resident that it would be picked up single stream. Because I assure you nobody would

[4:04:10] would vote on that. There's no other town in Wisconsin's county that picks up single stream

[4:04:15] like that. You may have some small towns like Louisboro or something where they have a smaller

[4:04:21] carding company and many trucks running through the town, but it couldn't be, I would

[4:04:27] challenge you to find another town that actually picks up the stream. The county has

[4:04:32] a 40 municipalities that does a seven that are not in the IMA. The 40 municipalities do not pick

[4:04:38] up the single stream. It's not a single stream facility for the county at all. And then

[4:04:44] actually, I'm sorry, I'm not saying my voice. The answer to your question about the food

[4:04:49] on post, I started a different campus for OSS for county way back 15 years ago, and I was

[4:04:57] doing the county contracts, and I know for-

[4:05:00] The North White Plains Residence will use to count the get-new way, recycling facility for food

[4:05:06] compost. And I know the bedford part of North Castle will use the bedford recycling centers.

[4:05:13] So a lot of people have already been bringing their food scraps to those recycling facilities.

[4:05:20] And I picked them up, so I know which compost. So the bedford hills? Yeah, the North White Plains

[4:05:28] get me away, pick, pick, pick, white plan.

[4:05:31] They call it, okay, you call it white plan.

[4:05:33] It's labeled as get me away on their account.

[4:05:36] I see, yeah, you're thinking about just the white plan's

[4:05:39] residents.

[4:05:39] I think for North, the North white plan's.

[4:05:41] My brother lives in North white plans.

[4:05:43] It's why you know, he utilizes the C.

[4:05:44] He utilizes which service?

[4:05:46] D, to get me away.

[4:05:47] OK, I actually don't know if people in North white plans

[4:05:50] have been using that.

[4:05:52] And if that information, we haven't ever put on our website.

[4:05:56] I didn't know that we were, we were a lot to.

[4:05:57] to use it on our waypoint.

[4:05:59] Can you share that, of course.

[4:06:01] And maybe any comments from the state of the community

[4:06:04] on whether that's something that we can put our full force

[4:06:07] behind to have me that way.

[4:06:08] Right now, many, I mean, here.

[4:06:10] Right now, many of the members of the state of the community

[4:06:13] who already do this go up to bed for it.

[4:06:16] And they do their drop off because they take it.

[4:06:19] But as we haven't put it in place yet.

[4:06:21] So I know a lot of people in town already

[4:06:23] go in bed for it.

[4:06:24] I was not aware of getting me.

[4:06:25] Yeah, that's interesting.

[4:06:26] because I think until the North White Plains pick up site is set up that I do wonder what

[4:06:33] is closer to North White Plains residents, the one that you mentioned in White Plains or

[4:06:38] the one that's in Lombardy, which one is closer, I wonder. So I think it would be nice to

[4:06:46] offer both options. This is great, is just right. Yeah, absolutely.

[4:06:50] So I think it would be great to provide both resources to people through the website and communicate that clearly in the North Life Things community meeting and get folks to start adopting that service.

[4:07:05] That might open up his backyard compost for us.

[4:07:09] I got two.

[4:07:11] I got two.

[4:07:12] We can give you four of that, so anyway.

[4:07:15] Sorry.

[4:07:16] What you're saying is pretty persuasive,

[4:07:17] and I appreciate the color and feedback.

[4:07:20] The one part I'm not wrapping my head around those,

[4:07:22] is to give you the example of like the peanut butter jar.

[4:07:25] Wouldn't that be contaminated,

[4:07:27] whether we had a single scream or a dual scream,

[4:07:28] but people aren't cleaning out the,

[4:07:30] or am I not understanding that?

[4:07:32] Well, there's just a allowable point.

[4:07:34] 0,5% contamination with recyclables.

[4:07:38] I mean, China was more aggressive than me bringing a quantity to win-waste in Connecticut.

[4:07:46] They already prepare for that contamination, but it's not just about that peanut butter or that mayonnaise you can't get out.

[4:07:53] It's about much more. It's about the glass breaking. It's about the plastic water.

[4:07:57] A bottle of water or juice contaminating the paper and the cardboard.

[4:08:01] it because it's I'm paying for it where I right right right there isn't the answer also on that

[4:08:08] the bottles the cans and the plastic don't get recycle for value correct you have to pay to do

[4:08:15] correct yes the problem is the only thing that they get value for is the mix paper and if you're putting

[4:08:20] that single stream the other things that are contaminated go ahead and get a dirty for the reason

[4:08:24] she's saying is a little bit of soda there's you know crap in the bottle the bottle's break also

[4:08:29] stuff comes out. So the impact is making the mixed paper not have value. Right, no that makes sense

[4:08:36] but that's more of like a value question that's embedded in the $80,000 as opposed to, like,

[4:08:41] contamination where we're doing something materially more harmful to the environment.

[4:08:44] Like contamination, yeah, she's referring, well, it means recycling contamination,

[4:08:49] which she means it is making contaminating the mixed paper. Yeah. So we can't use that mixed paper,

[4:08:55] They can't be poked, they have to discard it and they can't run it.

[4:08:58] And they don't charge us out of that because they get money for it.

[4:09:02] And we only do this once every five years.

[4:09:04] This decision for it.

[4:09:06] Well, the contract, this contract's five years.

[4:09:08] So we can change and we update.

[4:09:11] So let's say we make this decision today.

[4:09:12] We can change it in a year.

[4:09:13] We can change it at any point or how does that work?

[4:09:17] Well, we don't want to open a contract with me.

[4:09:20] We don't have to, in the conversation I had with Nick and you, they said we can change it

[4:09:25] Once a year you can turn it on or off in terms of single-stream dual-stream.

[4:09:29] What?

[4:09:30] The season before us here is, you want to award the bid and we want to award a

[4:09:34] with single-stream or dual-stream.

[4:09:36] I'm in favor of dual-stream.

[4:09:37] It's got a favor of single-stream.

[4:09:39] For lots of different reasons, the contamination is one.

[4:09:43] It's almost a half of a percent tax increase if we did that.

[4:09:45] And I'm a big believer in helping, telling residents to help us help them.

[4:09:50] So to me, it is beyond not even close to being a hardship

[4:09:53] to separate recyclables and put them out every other week.

[4:09:59] So we're-

[4:10:00] They're helping us help them, but keep their taxes lower.

[4:10:02] Exactly.

[4:10:03] To me, garbage pickup twice a week is when I was a kid along, I only had three times a week. It was foolish.

[4:10:10] So once a week works, and we don't have eight kids in every family and average family

[4:10:15] sizes, two kids. So this is a good contract. I think we should go with dual stream and you guys

[4:10:22] knocked us around next year if you want to think you want to change it, but I think we should move on from this to make a decision.

[4:10:26] I'm okay with going with signing the contract and going with dual stream.

[4:10:30] I actually think what you said was pretty persuasive,

[4:10:32] but I don't agree on exactly the kind of all of the logic.

[4:10:37] I actually think there is a big convenience factor here

[4:10:41] that people care about.

[4:10:43] But I think your point about the 30% is a big problem.

[4:10:46] I think the fact we can change our mind in a year,

[4:10:50] I think we can revisit it.

[4:10:51] I'm not.

[4:10:53] That's what Nick said.

[4:10:54] But we could also keep in mind, you know, this, I've said this

[4:10:57] a different meetings because I did an experiment, let me just finish.

[4:11:01] Is part of the idea here of composting is to reduce your garbage.

[4:11:05] Right.

[4:11:05] So we did it in our own house.

[4:11:07] I had to train my kids to do it.

[4:11:08] We reduced it more than 50% seriously.

[4:11:11] So I put about 25 pounds of compost in the backyard every week.

[4:11:16] So if we're going to encourage people to compost and reduce the

[4:11:19] of garbage, you only need garbage pick up once a week, and if we're going to recycle more

[4:11:25] intelligently and educate them, we're going to get more for that because we're going to be

[4:11:28] able to reuse more of that material. So I don't want to make it easier for people to get

[4:11:35] careless and lazy and contaminate and throw more garbage out. We want our encourage them to

[4:11:40] reduce. Exactly. Can we just have it on the record? Can I ask Kevin to share your understanding

[4:11:48] of whether we can make the change every year or not?

[4:11:52] On the call, I had with Nikki said, on a yearly basis, he would be able to switch, but that's

[4:11:57] the conversation at him and I had, I know you weren't able to be on, and I had to send

[4:12:00] you.

[4:12:01] No, I had to send compensation.

[4:12:02] What's our plan today?

[4:12:04] Well, what we will propose is that you start with the single stream and give this committee in

[4:12:10] a co-chair, a staff committee, to start with the state with the alternate week, of course,

[4:12:16] because my calendars are ready to go.

[4:12:20] The residents are going to be upset that this calendar didn't get out this year.

[4:12:25] But what we would propose is, give it a year to research it, because you have to take

[4:12:30] that time to research it and see what is going on in the county so that we can stand everything

[4:12:36] with a rush this year because of elections and everything else.

[4:12:40] So you need to tie, you need to give a committee, which I would be on the coach here right

[4:12:44] liaison. So we would take a year to go through all the numbers and give you accurate information

[4:12:51] about single-stream. And do all the like work for you, show you every year what years you

[4:12:58] stop being number, you know, in the top three in which it's the county. And you know, we've got

[4:13:05] a lot of price increases on the table this year for January for single-stream. So I can't

[4:13:11] I can't get any better next year with it and you're changing your mind and wanting to go with that.

[4:13:21] But I mean, I'm authorized to propose a year on the committee and let them choose and do other research.

[4:13:29] I'm not.

[4:13:31] Absolutely.

[4:13:31] And if you're going to do a survey, I appreciate the work that I think that needs to be a group effort.

[4:13:36] So the town board needs to be involved.

[4:13:38] So then it was being sent out at least the sustainability companies to be involved and then get out of

[4:13:43] a survey that everybody's on a greens greens on and then get that in feedback back.

[4:13:48] That's the way how we do it.

[4:13:50] So I actually agree.

[4:13:51] I think it's better to do a survey like that, but we had to make a decision and nobody did it.

[4:13:55] So I wanted information.

[4:13:57] Ideally, if the trucks were different, we would have both picked up each week.

[4:14:03] But I think the problem is the trucks case.

[4:14:06] because keeping the stream separate, don't stream, but picked every week, and I think that just

[4:14:10] was impossible.

[4:14:12] Right.

[4:14:12] And I just want to give you another number.

[4:14:14] There's over 6,500 residential homes in Northcastle, and there's about 650 backdoor customers,

[4:14:23] something like that.

[4:14:26] So with the backdoor, we have to send a smaller truck there.

[4:14:29] So we are actually grabbing when people leave it out because they're paying us on a separate contract.

[4:14:35] We have to grab what they leave out for recycling.

[4:14:38] So we will grab the plastic pausing cans and the cardboard.

[4:14:41] Whatever they leave, we take because they're paying top dollar for us to take it.

[4:14:46] So, you know, if somebody wants that option, they would just pay for backdoor.

[4:14:53] And that is a single string.

[4:14:55] It's, I don't like the word single string.

[4:14:58] The fact is that it's out.

[4:15:00] What there is separately, but they put it out for us to pick up, and their contract with us for

[4:15:05] back door is recycling and garbage picked up every week. You know, some of them two times a week.

[4:15:13] That's what they pay for, that's what we have to give them. If they were to separate it and

[4:15:17] just put one out, then my split pack of truck would just pick up that commodity, and they would

[4:15:23] still only be alternate week. How many of them go, sorry?

[4:15:26] And anybody who was paying for back door, if they wanted to recycle on alternate weeks and keep their stuff separate, then they would bring it to curbside.

[4:15:36] But I know that's not ideal for some people.

[4:15:40] I just wanted to ask you, by the way, it's really great that you're here.

[4:15:45] I don't think in the four years we've had several different questions that I think would be nice in this forum.

[4:15:52] But one thing I'm just wondering, as you say, that is how many people in the town subscribe to the back door service.

[4:16:00] Like 6,550, 680s, raise something like that?

[4:16:03] Out of roughly 4,000, you said?

[4:16:05] 6,000, 6,000, 800 residential dwellings.

[4:16:10] Yeah, some 6,000, 893.

[4:16:13] It was all 4,500, but maybe there's other things, factored incident.

[4:16:17] And then one other question, which may seem off topic to some, but I think it's very much part of the

[4:16:24] scene-building mission, is like, when is it that you, do you have a plan to transition off

[4:16:33] gasoline powered?

[4:16:34] Oh gosh.

[4:16:35] I think natural gas trucks.

[4:16:37] Do you have a transition plan?

[4:16:39] We actually brought the trucks out here, and my came out, and we were at them in the back,

[4:16:44] Um, highway department, gosh, I was a long time ago.

[4:16:49] Um, but year is there a year that you plan to transition off?

[4:16:53] Uh, no, no, but we're, well, we're open to explore anything.

[4:16:57] Yeah, sure.

[4:16:58] It's town had brought the trucks in.

[4:16:59] Or we brought the trucks to the town and did some research.

[4:17:04] Also on side loader trucks.

[4:17:06] Because that's, you know, that's something when you're on flat grounds

[4:17:10] and your terrain is okay that you could do it.

[4:17:12] It wasn't workable for like towns like Northcastle or Newcastle.

[4:17:16] OK.

[4:17:16] Besides low trucks, you have to keep the total out straight.

[4:17:20] And because I think one thing that is also a benefit of keeping the plan we have

[4:17:25] is just thinking about the number of miles driven.

[4:17:30] OK.

[4:17:30] Oh, absolutely.

[4:17:31] Yeah.

[4:17:32] That's why you did the split trucks.

[4:17:34] Save on all that pollution and fuel and everything.

[4:17:37] That was the idea.

[4:17:38] So with that, what I would suggest is it's midnight.

[4:17:41] I appreciate a lot of people that don't come to these meetings all the time.

[4:17:45] Imagine doing this 360 times over 16 years.

[4:17:49] Wow.

[4:17:50] But what's what's before is is to approve the bid and we had to make a decision on single

[4:17:55] stream or dual stream.

[4:17:57] So I'll make the motion to, I think, I've got one little fix also.

[4:18:01] We spoke about today, sorry about this, but also Diana explained with Nick that basically

[4:18:07] the charges is the same, whatever the amount of garbage, and they agreed that in terms

[4:18:13] of composting that we do, that they pick up, that we will get credit for it, and I think

[4:18:18] the wording was something like, and it can be done by a side letter or something,

[4:18:24] the town

[4:18:24] would receive a credit for food composting in an equitable manner by reference to the rate

[4:18:31] pay for disposing garbage.

[4:18:33] So, how should we do that? Rowan, legally? With this approval? How do we do that?

[4:18:40] It's at the language, with a side letter or something. I think it would be best to decide letters

[4:18:45] so that we, because it wasn't spacked. So, if the contractor is willing to give that credit,

[4:18:52] you should send the town a letter to that effect. Okay.

[4:18:57] So, we can make a motion to approve this with dual-stream and with the side letter from the

[4:19:05] contractor back to the town, spelling out the credit for the composting, so I'll make that

[4:19:11] motion.

[4:19:12] A little second.

[4:19:14] All of them?

[4:19:14] All right.

[4:19:15] Thank you.

[4:19:17] Thanks.

[4:19:17] Thank you, Danny.

[4:19:17] Gotcha.

[4:19:18] And right before midnight.

[4:19:19] Thank you.

[4:19:20] Well, Mike, now you have extra time.

[4:19:22] You can be on your cycling.

[4:19:23] Yes.

[4:19:25] I just want to jump to the next thing, I just wanted to briefly, I know it's late, everybody wants to go.

[4:19:31] But I just want to say thank you, and it's been a pleasure working over the years with you.

[4:19:37] And I remember, you know, when you first got on the board starting out, you know, you got the real glamorous task of being on the sewer task force.

[4:19:45] You know, and you learned all about VOD and flow weighted averages and RBCs and all that good stuff.

[4:19:51] But what came out of that, we crafted a very economical way to get extra flow with the plant for the community and it was an advantage for me.

[4:20:00] We're doing it when there was an upgrade going out at the time. And we came up with a pretty good way

[4:20:08] economically that the DEC accepted and granted us that extra 50,000 gallons a day, which made a big difference.

[4:20:15] But thank you for all your work and all your confidence in me over the years. And just for being Mike, thank you.

[4:20:24] Thank you so appreciate it.

[4:20:26] Thank you.

[4:20:30] So the next item is consider acceptance of renewal.

[4:20:33] We not have anybody else here for a specific item, right?

[4:20:36] So consider acceptance of renewal premium from Tokyo Marine and

[4:20:39] conjunction with services provided by a forward and

[4:20:42] son of corporation for property and casualty insurance policy

[4:20:45] of 2024.

[4:20:46] Everything looked in order.

[4:20:47] They are right, Kevin?

[4:20:48] Yes.

[4:20:49] I'm asking questions.

[4:20:51] I'll make the motion.

[4:20:52] I'll second.

[4:20:53] On favor.

[4:20:53] I consider a problem of agreement with the

[4:20:56] ARC, a west jester, for maintenance of Main Street,

[4:20:59] on Mac for 2024, no authorization for the

[4:21:01] supervisor to sign the agreement.

[4:21:02] Everything looked in good order.

[4:21:04] Look at there, we're given us more hours, perhaps in the past.

[4:21:08] But, and they had also pulled back during COVID.

[4:21:10] So, and it's a great course, so I'll make that motion.

[4:21:13] That's I can on favor.

[4:21:14] Hi.

[4:21:15] Great.

[4:21:15] Thank you.

[4:21:16] Great cause.

[4:21:19] I have consider a problem of agreement with

[4:21:20] SPCA for 2024 and authorization for the

[4:21:23] of us to assign the agreement. Any comments or questions?

[4:21:26] Oh, they've got a beautiful new facility as well.

[4:21:29] Oh, second.

[4:21:30] All favor?

[4:21:30] Hi.

[4:21:31] G, consider the MOA, MOU with the county of Westchester for remote access to county records,

[4:21:37] an authorization for the supervisor to assign the agreement.

[4:21:41] Everything looks fine in the air to my journey

[4:21:43] does a great job in the county, so.

[4:21:45] I'll make that motion.

[4:21:46] Oh, second.

[4:21:48] All favor?

[4:21:48] Hi.

[4:21:49] H, consider approval of grant restoration.

[4:21:51] Inc change order numbers one through four trust project at the Northcastle Public Library,

[4:21:56] Armond Branch, comments or questions?

[4:21:59] I do.

[4:22:00] I was over there looking at it.

[4:22:03] This, you know, a lot of people probably realize that not that everybody does this, but it can

[4:22:08] be the bread and butter for contractors sometimes to get change orders.

[4:22:13] I'm concerned that these costs are way too high.

[4:22:16] They did have an extra proposal there that Katherine went ahead and decided they wouldn't do that.

[4:22:24] It really was quite expensive, I thought.

[4:22:26] Six hours of loss for painting, so good for her on that.

[4:22:31] But it changed orders three and four.

[4:22:33] I think we should investigate whether we can do better pricing on it.

[4:22:36] I looked at the work that had to be done.

[4:22:39] It involves pretty, you know, relative, it's always simple until you're doing it.

[4:22:45] But it's relatively straight order,

[4:22:50] a straight issue of enclosing the beams there, and the

[4:22:55] trusses, and then she rocking them, and I think we should look at other alternatives.

[4:23:02] I have a new week, Coma.

[4:23:06] I was a recommendation from Karen Catherine, I'm sorry, I apologize.

[4:23:10] at the library. I know we're looking to try to wrap this product. I'd like to

[4:23:17] to. If you think the numbers are in line? You know again for taping and

[4:23:22] cheap rocking, they do seem a little on high side and when speaking with

[4:23:28] Katherine, we were willing to look to see if we could find a better quote. We shouldn't

[4:23:31] slow us down too much as the holiday season is going to be here and we should

[4:23:35] hopefully be able to have something for the next meeting in January to move forward.

[4:23:39] I mean, as I've said here before, a lot of the drivers from municipal work are bonds, insurances,

[4:23:45] and prevailing wages. So, outside we may not find something better. I can't speak, but will it

[4:23:51] to explore? So, table one?

[4:23:54] Great.

[4:23:55] Wait, before we just do that, just wonder if we table it. Does it affect the libraries open now or

[4:24:02] like when the library would reach?

[4:24:03] So, what would happen?

[4:24:05] I mean, grandma willing to work and do the work next week, obviously, you know, for us to go and get, we'd have to looking at the pyramid policy, probably get three quotes.

[4:24:14] So it will slow it down somewhat because we won't be able to approve next till whatever the first meeting in January.

[4:24:19] However, right now, they're closed off in the main room with the lighting desk, but it would be okay.

[4:24:26] And I discuss this with Katherine to go ahead and take that away.

[4:24:30] And then a painter's come in the work they're going to be doing is not going to be that extensive.

[4:24:34] So they could then it's be closed now anyway to get it done for longer period of time.

[4:24:38] We can open it up and then some out of a few days later on, where they might close a due ground,

[4:24:43] drop, plus and things like that.

[4:24:45] So you're saying that Catherine agreed that if we were to then go and investigate cheaper options,

[4:24:51] she could reopen the library and then close it again later when they did work.

[4:24:57] the circulation desk group. Is that good too?

[4:25:00] Then I fully trust what you're saying. I'm just wondering Kevin if you're aware of that.

[4:25:04] Yeah, we spoke in Catherine and said if we had to look into what we could do.

[4:25:08] Because over this holiday period, there are a lot of closed days coming up anyway on top of

[4:25:12] a library with a holiday season.

[4:25:13] And sorry, just to make sure just to be aware of the consequences, do you have a sense Kevin

[4:25:21] of how long that intermittent period might be? Like will it take an extra week or might take an extra month?

[4:25:28] to get the quotes or to do the work.

[4:25:31] We should be able to turn around the quotes fairly quickly.

[4:25:33] We should be able to find three or so contractors to do this kind of work.

[4:25:37] Okay, so we're talking like less than less than a month.

[4:25:40] So yeah, we should be able to prove by the first meeting in January.

[4:25:43] Okay.

[4:25:44] Oh great.

[4:25:45] Yeah, that's awesome.

[4:25:46] Thank you.

[4:25:47] Thank you.

[4:25:48] So we just want to take a look.

[4:25:50] Yep.

[4:25:51] Thank you.

[4:25:52] First of all, we received a letter of resignation for purposes of retirement from Patty Columbo,

[4:25:57] received of taxes, effective January 1st, 2024.

[4:26:00] Technically, Patty retired, and that's when we converted the position to appointed versus

[4:26:07] elected, but then we hired a back, which was great, which was the intent when we did it,

[4:26:13] and we saved a fair amount of money by doing that, but every town needs a received

[4:26:18] of taxes.

[4:26:18] So we hired a back, and she had that same designation,

[4:26:21] so she's retiring sort of again.

[4:26:23] But she's been so terrific, Patty, for so many years,

[4:26:26] I've such a pleasure to know her.

[4:26:29] And so finally, she'll be really retired,

[4:26:31] and we wish her well, and it's been just a pleasure to work

[4:26:34] in with her.

[4:26:35] So if anybody else wants to make any comments.

[4:26:37] So she's been in institution, and when she worked with

[4:26:41] my upmildred, and then became receiver when she retired.

[4:26:45] So definitely she's been in the list for a long time and done the next one, child.

[4:26:50] Yeah.

[4:26:51] I'm not sure that there are that many people who could make a pleasant to have to pay property taxes.

[4:26:58] She's wonderful. She's done a great job. She's wonderful.

[4:27:02] And I hope she enjoys her free time.

[4:27:06] So I need a motion to receive letter of resignation.

[4:27:09] I'll make a motion.

[4:27:10] I'll second.

[4:27:11] on favor?

[4:27:12] Also, we see the letter of resignation from Peter Trudior L.

[4:27:17] I said, please, let's try to get out.

[4:27:19] Sorry, Trudior L. Please, the problem affected December 12, 2020.

[4:27:23] All right.

[4:27:23] We'll make that motion.

[4:27:24] All right.

[4:27:25] All right.

[4:27:26] I'll make that motion.

[4:27:28] I'll make that motion.

[4:27:29] I'll make that motion.

[4:27:34] All right.

[4:27:35] All right.

[4:27:35] Are we on C or D?

[4:27:37] C?

[4:27:37] Do I read the wrong one?

[4:27:43] It's not on this agenda. It's on the revised. It's got a little confusing.

[4:27:55] We see the resignation from Ryan Hurd, Highway Department, in fact of December 23rd, 2023.

[4:28:01] I'll make that motion. I'll second.

[4:28:02] All in favor?

[4:28:04] Thank you.

[4:28:05] Consider authorization for supervisors on the notification of appointment or register or

[4:28:08] vital statistics.

[4:28:09] I mean, I have a question actually, and this, we usually, it looked to me like when I

[4:28:14] looked in the past we always do this at the organizational meeting in January.

[4:28:18] For every year, I could find, do you know what we're doing now?

[4:28:22] I don't know.

[4:28:22] I don't know if we did it every year, an organizational, I can't say that, fairly.

[4:28:28] I look back at the past three.

[4:28:29] We were.

[4:28:30] I'm going, I'm saying going back.

[4:28:32] a decade or more.

[4:28:33] To be saying the opposite of that, I am telling this

[4:28:35] why we're doing it now, or why we can't do it now

[4:28:37] versus doing it.

[4:28:38] You guys doing it in January?

[4:28:39] We do it every year on the organizational agenda,

[4:28:44] but this is a form that needs to be filed with the county

[4:28:47] and to avoid a lapse in coverage.

[4:28:50] I wanted to get it in before the end of year.

[4:28:55] Because the effect of dates, 1, 1, 24.

[4:28:59] But that's what it's been in past years.

[4:29:01] Don't know.

[4:29:02] is there any reason why we shouldn't do it now and wait till the organization of any

[4:29:07] well anything change between now and then on this form?

[4:29:11] else there are anything changes between now and then?

[4:29:13] Yeah.

[4:29:15] I'm fine proving it now unless somebody fails, we need to do need to wait to January.

[4:29:19] I think we should do it the way we've always done it at the organizational meeting.

[4:29:23] The organizational meeting, it's not to sign the document, it's just to continue the appointment.

[4:29:30] So there is a little bit of a distinction, but it shouldn't be an issue.

[4:29:40] So I'm fine doing it now, Matt, would like to wait, Jose.

[4:29:43] I'm fine with it now.

[4:29:46] I don't have enough information.

[4:29:48] I don't really think about it that much.

[4:29:50] So you want to do it now or you want to wait a bit.

[4:29:52] I probably would have stayed on it.

[4:29:54] I don't have enough information to decide.

[4:29:56] Okay, so two of us want to do it, Matt doesn't want.

[4:29:58] Was it silly?

[4:29:59] Um, sorry.

[4:30:00] So just to make sure I understand the reason why we need to do it now is because there's a form that needs to be submitted to the county.

[4:30:09] And that form is to funds that fund it.

[4:30:12] If they want it out, they give it to me now and it's signed and returned. I don't have the return date, but they wanted it. I think by the end of the month.

[4:30:21] Okay, so in this case if we do it like we've always done it in the past, there's

[4:30:29] they would get it later than they'd like to get it.

[4:30:33] Having said there is an extension because this is pertains to a form only.

[4:30:39] He's asking a supervisor to sign a form as opposed to the appointment to the position

[4:30:47] which is done every year on your desk.

[4:30:51] And what do they, it's still a point me presumably to the position of registrar organization.

[4:31:01] Have we submitted this form in past years?

[4:31:04] I have never had this form before and now that I could recall, it could have been done by somebody else in my office,

[4:31:12] but I have recall having this form and having to have it approved by the board.

[4:31:18] But since I received it, I thought that it would be best to follow the procedure that the county requested.

[4:31:25] Okay. And we have submitted this form before in our office.

[4:31:30] That's Maria. It's Maria. We have submitted this form before. This is proceed. This is like a visit of Oz.

[4:31:37] We have submitted this form before. This is standard procedure. And this is nothing new.

[4:31:45] We do not do this, we will not have a registrar come January 1st, and we will not be able to process

[4:31:52] that certificate. This is really, really important.

[4:31:56] Thank you, Mary.

[4:31:57] Right, Mary, guys, ask us, we've never had this on December of Gendez, when did we submit the form in past years?

[4:32:03] In December.

[4:32:05] Okay.

[4:32:07] So why?

[4:32:07] It wasn't done in the agenda, it was a mistake that it was not put on there.

[4:32:12] Okay, in that case, then I'm fine with it.

[4:32:15] That's interesting. Thank you.

[4:32:17] Yeah.

[4:32:20] So I'm motion two.

[4:32:22] Why theorize me to sign the notification.

[4:32:25] Is there a second?

[4:32:27] You mean a motion?

[4:32:27] I made the motion.

[4:32:29] I'll make a second.

[4:32:30] On favor.

[4:32:31] I'll abstain on it.

[4:32:34] So we need a roll call.

[4:32:35] Allison.

[4:32:47] Hi.

[4:32:50] I'll excuse me.

[4:32:52] Allison in there.

[4:32:52] I'll abstain.

[4:32:54] Thank you.

[4:32:58] Next item is.

[4:33:02] This agenda had Ryan further down.

[4:33:05] So we're on.

[4:33:07] Consider requirement of Alice in assignment is marriage officer for the 10

[4:33:11] Northcastle.

[4:33:12] Cleterminist with position of town clerk.

[4:33:15] Any comments or questions?

[4:33:16] Yeah, is this again, is this about a form or is this doing something that we

[4:33:19] normally do on an organizational agenda?

[4:33:21] We've done this in the past about three years ago with because of COVID and it was done on a town board agenda.

[4:33:31] And we realized that the term expires with the end of my existing term December 31, 2020,

[4:33:42] and in order to move forward in this position,

[4:33:47] to provide marriages to couples who come in and request them.

[4:33:52] And we've had quite a few.

[4:33:55] It needs to be reauthorized by the town board.

[4:34:02] So this has never been on the organizational agenda.

[4:34:10] Thank you.

[4:34:12] I would like to make a motion to accept.

[4:34:16] You want it?

[4:34:17] To accept the appointment.

[4:34:20] Second.

[4:34:21] All in favor?

[4:34:22] All in favor.

[4:34:23] Go call again.

[4:34:24] I haven't been able to sink into my drop box, so I didn't look at this either.

[4:34:28] So we have a roll call vote now.

[4:34:30] The documentation on this and the draft box.

[4:34:32] Do you still wish to abstain?

[4:34:35] Yeah.

[4:34:35] You roll call.

[4:34:36] I'll see you on the agenda.

[4:34:41] I have me.

[4:34:44] That's an envelope.

[4:34:45] Hi.

[4:34:45] That's an order.

[4:34:51] Okay, we'll go to consider the re-employment of Collin Rex to the Park and Record Advisory Board for a three-year term to expire in December 31st, 2026.

[4:35:00] I saw Carl here earlier, and thank him for his continued efforts on the parks and

[4:35:05] recommendations.

[4:35:05] And I'd like to make that motion.

[4:35:08] On favour?

[4:35:09] Aye.

[4:35:09] And also I saw a normal hill.

[4:35:11] Here she was gone. She's gone now.

[4:35:13] Consider the re-applement of normal hill to the parks and

[4:35:15] record advisory board for a three year term to expire in December 31,

[4:35:19] 2026. Any comments or questions?

[4:35:22] I'll make the motion.

[4:35:24] I'll second on favour?

[4:35:25] And then we have a motion to approve the consensus agenda.

[4:35:29] I'll make that motion.

[4:35:30] What did I miss?

[4:35:32] I know you did the other deal.

[4:35:34] Yeah.

[4:35:34] I'll make that motion.

[4:35:35] I'll second.

[4:35:36] On favor.

[4:35:37] All right.

[4:35:38] Coming.

[4:35:39] Covered that.

[4:35:41] We have a few closing in memory of Alex Malina

[4:35:44] young resident in town.

[4:35:47] Young dad.

[4:35:49] And folks in Paris go out to his family and friends.

[4:35:53] Fred Gambino, former resident and a castle police officer.

[4:35:56] I'm related to my neighbor across the street, so I thought some press got to him and his family,

[4:36:01] and Dorothy Smith also a resident of Omaha. Same thing.

[4:36:05] And I would like to just close in the memory of Billy Decker Jr.

[4:36:09] who left us six years ago yesterday.

[4:36:15] I also just want to say a quick thing on Alex Molina. Alex was a friend of mine, Greg I.

[4:36:20] He was always, you know, we shared a lot of, like, really great memories together, watching

[4:36:28] our daughters play soccer on the cross.

[4:36:30] He was just such a fun-loving, outgoing person.

[4:36:35] He'd be, you know, the guy at the sporting events, always cheering.

[4:36:39] He'd be playing, you know, football on the sidelines with my boys.

[4:36:42] It's just such a tragedy, you know, that he, you know, he passed away at such a young age.

[4:36:50] With that, I will

[4:36:55] state that it's been just an honor and a pleasure and a blessing to have the privilege to serve this town.

[4:37:02] We moved here in 1999.

[4:37:05] We were invisible.

[4:37:07] We always say, and ever thought I would get involved certainly in the local government.

[4:37:13] Certainly, never become a town supervisor.

[4:37:14] But it really is one of the true honors and blessings of my life.

[4:37:17] It really has.

[4:37:19] Just to be able to meet so many people and people to trust in you, I want to thank my

[4:37:24] family for being here and I'm sorry for some of the things you've had to endure but unfortunately

[4:37:30] for 16 years you've had to do that and your mom and I raised our daughters to be strong

[4:37:38] women and they can sustain just about anything.

[4:37:42] And the last comment they'll make is there's one of my favorite TV shows and one of my favorite scenes in any TV show is the dart scene in Ted Lasson.

[4:37:56] If you haven't seen it, you should watch it.

[4:37:58] And I encourage everybody to try to apply to what he taught everybody there in the Walt Whitman phrase of be curious and not judgmental.

[4:38:07] I think that's very important especially in this this time in this stage. So with that, I'm going to sign off for the last time and

[4:38:16] Laurie I'm coming home

[4:38:24] He's a motion to close the meeting of December 14th. I will reach the motion. I'll second on favor. I thank you

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