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speech and values diversity of opinion
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and the full text is on the front of the
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agenda. I'm not going to read the whole
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thing right now. Um, town manager
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Johnson, has the agenda been posted?
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>> Yes, mayor.
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>> Any changes to the agenda?
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>> No.
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Number three, disclosure of exparte
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communications on items where the town
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council acts in an adjudicatory or quasi
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judicial capacity. Anything to disclose?
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Hearing none, we will go to number four,
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open time for public expression. This is
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limited to three minutes per speaker on
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items that are not on our agenda.
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Anybody in the chamber for public
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comment?
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Anyone online, Donna, for public
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comment?
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No one's online. Mayor,
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>> thank you.
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The next item is the proclamation
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celebrating National Fair Housing Month,
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April 2026.
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Whereas the principle of fair housing is
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not only state and national law and
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policy, but a fundamental human concept
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and entitlement for all citizens. And
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whereas discrimination based on race,
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national origin, gender, disability,
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familial status, exclusion of minor
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children, religion, marital status, and
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sexual orientation is illegal in
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California. And whereas as a community,
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we welcome all good neighbors,
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recognizing the contributions and
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richness tendered by a wide variety of
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young and old, male and female, people
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of all colors and ethnic backgrounds,
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religious traditions, etc. and whereas
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interested parties from both the private
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and public sectors will participate in a
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city, state, and national effort to
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promote fair housing. Now therefore, on
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behalf of the town council and the town
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of Ross, I do by here I do hereby
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proclaim the month of April 2026 to be
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fair housing month in the town of Ross
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and urge all residents of our community
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to personally adopt the spirit of equal
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housing opportunity and adhere adhere to
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the letter and character of the fair
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housing laws.
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Number six is the mayor's report. That's
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me again. Sorry. Um, Chief Pota's
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retirement and celebration coffee, April
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30th. The town of Ross has been so
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fortunate that Ralph Pota joined us as
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police chief in March 2021. Chief Pota
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has demonstrated a deep commitment to
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serve and interact with the Ross
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community. Chief Pota began his career
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as a city fire dispatcher at age 17,
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becoming a police officer in 1985 at age
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20. After 35 years, he retired from
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Samfell in 2018 and then worked for the
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Northern California Computer Crimes Task
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Force, assisting and training
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investigators
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in Ross. Chief Pota has been known for
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his open open door policy, broad smile,
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and warm laugh. He has seamlessly led
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his department of eight police officers.
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Chief Pota engages with residents and
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genu genuinely cares about our
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community. He has been an excellent
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partner with students and staff at Ross
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School and Branson. He was instrumental
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in educating Ross ebike riders and
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leading the county's efforts to regulate
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ebikes to enhance safety for the riders
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and our community. He has attended
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nearly every Ross town council meeting
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providing a voice of reason and
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collaboration.
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After 5 years of dedicated service,
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Chief Pa will retire on April 30th.
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While we are sad to see him go, we are
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deeply grateful for his exceptional work with the Ross community
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and excited for him to begin his next
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chapter. The town will host a morning
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coffee for Chief Pota on Thursday, April
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30th. Details will be coming soon, but
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please plan to join us to thank Chief
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Pota and wish him well.
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Please support downtown Ross businesses.
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Many of you are already aware that
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beloved Crown and Crumpet has closed. We
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are very sorry to see them go. Each
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month, the Ross Review has been
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featuring a Ross business. Please
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patronize these fine businesses in our
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charming downtown. They need our
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continued support to thrive. At the
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March RPOA meeting, Ross resident Kevin
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Erdman shared ideas about how to enhance
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the downtown Ross business environment.
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Working with RPOA, Kevin will be
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implementing some of these steps soon.
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We thank Kevin and RPOA for their
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efforts.
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Finally, citizens advisory committee
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recommendations. Wednesday, April 29th.
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The Citizens Advisory Committee has been
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hard at work since midFebruary and will
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give its recommendations about the town
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facilities and fire station at the April
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29th council meeting. Please note that
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the May council meeting has been moved
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up to April 29th due to scheduling
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conflicts. This meeting, like all
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council meetings, will also be available
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on Zoom.
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Next seven, council committee and
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liaison reports.
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Terry. Yeah.
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Yes. After conferring with our town
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manager and public works director, I
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voted no on the agenda item. The reason
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I voted no is because we currently
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receive a very modest amount each year
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amount of money each year from TAM that
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supports our local roads in Ross. The
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amendment would reduce our funding along
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with other cities and towns to support a
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new category called reimagine roadways.
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This new category will support and
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improve regional traffic congestion
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through advanced planning efforts. Ross
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will not directly benefit from these
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funds, nor will Ross be eligible to
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apply for these funds. The vote on the
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measure AA amendment was passed by most
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of the TAM commissioners. Next week,
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Christa Rich and I will meet with the
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TAM executive director and the planning
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director to discuss this issue and
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hopefully identify opportunities for
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additional funding uh opportunities for
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us to maintain our local roads and
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transportation infrastructure,
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especially for small towns like Ross and
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Belvadier. In June, the town of Ross
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will also be asked to vote yes or no on
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measure AA amendments. If 50% of cities
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and towns in Marin vote yes, the measure
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AA amendment will pass. Thank you.
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>> Bill,
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I have a report on uh MCE clean energy
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uh which has been in the news uh off and
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on this year. At this particular
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meeting, um there was some um well,
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first of all, some progress made on
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issues that we've talked about for quite
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a while. Uh one is um a governance
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there. The the board has requested and
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authorized a governance study. You may recall there's been concern that the
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governance structure is unwieldy. Uh the
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directors are all representatives of
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towns in four counties uh and the
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counties themselves. And so we have a
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board of 34 members and an executive
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committee trying to oversee in a very
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complex business with a budget of about
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$700 million a year. So um I was pleased
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to see that there was agreement on a
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proposal a request for services and I
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hope that will come together soon. The
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finance committee that the board
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authorized previously and requested is
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has been um um created and is is now
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meeting uh periodically.
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Um couple of controversial things. Uh
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one was um
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a proposal in connection with the budget
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to cap the budget for staff expenses
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without specifying how that would be
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done. and the CEO said, "Well, then
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we'll have to lay some people off." And
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uh so that did not pass that that that
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effort to cap the the budget. I think
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there's concern on the board about the the staff expense. There's concern
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about how much MCE is is charging for
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electricity. It's now more than PG&E for
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various reasons. And there is some
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concern about trying to keep electricity
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rates reasonable while still serving
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MC's mission, which is to promote
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renewable energy.
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Um, and then there's also a controversy
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about creating an interim committee
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because of some concern about the
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contract approval process.
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Uh and uh the u the disagreement was
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whether this should all be something
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before the full board or some other
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brown neck committee or whether an
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interim committee which is a sort of an
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ad hoc committee would be appropriate.
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My view was we should undertake this
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evaluation quickly and we should get
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started. It'll all be public soon enough
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uh when we get the recommendations from
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the interim interim committee. So that
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measure passed. So stay tuned. I'm sure
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we'll have much more in the future as
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MCE
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and its board
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attempt to sort of restructure things
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and get things on track.
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>> Thank you. Elizabeth, do you have
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anything?
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>> Okay.
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Next is staff and community reports. Um,
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Ross Property Owners Association.
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Is there anyone online for Ross Property
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Owners Association?
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Okay. Town Manager Johnson.
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>> Sorry, they're they're not on there.
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>> Thank you. Thank you, Mayor and Council.
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Um, and our POA uh their meeting was not
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uh scheduled this week, I think, due to spring break and other holidays.
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Um, our esteemed town clerk, Cindy
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Martell, retired last Monday, and I'm
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grateful that our part-time office
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assistant, Donna Redstone,
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has agreed to fill in as our interim
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town clerk until the position of town
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clerk is filled. Donna has been with the
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town for over 10 years, and we're
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fortunate to have her extra assistance.
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Fingers crossed that we will have a new
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town clerk on board soon. Until then, we
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ask the council and the community for
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your patience as we are short staffed in
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the administrative office. The council's
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annual b uh budget workshop will take
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place on Thursday, April 23rd, starting
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at 9:00 a.m. in the council chambers.
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Later on tonight's agenda, the council
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will consider moving your May meeting up
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to Wednesday, April 29th. So, we have a
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busy month ahead. Uh the first section
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of the Bolina storm drain phase 2
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improvements uh was completed in March
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and the contractor has cleaned up the
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site and demobilized. The final section
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of storm drain which includes the new
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outfall into the creek will be completed
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in July after the Sir Francis Drake
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paving project is completed. Speaking of
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the Sir Francis Drake paving project
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which will be between Bolinus Avenue and
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Elcom Camino Bueno is scheduled to start
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after Ross School gets out for the
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summer and will require one lane traffic
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control for approximately 2 weeks. So
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please mark your calendars, plan
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accordingly and get out of town if you
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can. And that's it. Thank you for the
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opportunity to report.
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Thank you. Number nine, the consent
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agenda. Does any member of the council
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wish to pull an item from the consent
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agenda?
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>> Does any member of the public wish to
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pull an item from the consent agenda?
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>> Okay. Could we have a motion to approve
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the consent agenda?
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>> I move we approve the consent agenda.
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>> A second.
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Just a roll call.
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>> Mayor McMillan,
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>> yes.
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>> Mayor Prom Robbins,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Kercher,
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>> yes.
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>> And council member Deli,
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>> yes.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Measure passes.
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» Now we are moving to public hearing on
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planning projects. Part one
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A is five Allen Avenue design review
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variance and town council consideration
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of adoption of resolution number 2615
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approving the project subject to
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conditions.
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>> Uh good evening mayor and council
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members. Uh tonight the applicant at
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five Allen Lane is requesting a town
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council consideration for design review
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and a variance. The project is proposing
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to renovate the exist the southern
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portion of the yard which is which acts
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as their rear yard uh to include
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construction of a new pool spa uh
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outdoor kitchen and arbor and patio. At
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the ADR meeting on March 17th, the ADR
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board voted 3 to zero in support of the
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project uh citing that the site's
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topography, irregular lot shape, and the
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existing privacy on the lot. Also want
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to point out the uh the in the
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construction management plan, the
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applicant has indicated that three
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vehicles will be parked on site with no
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street parking and all materials will be
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stored on site. Staff requests that the
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town council consider adopting
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resolution 2615 approving designer view
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and a variance. Thank you.
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>> Thank you. That's great about the
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on-site parking too. Thank you.
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Questions from council members?
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Nope. Um, does the applicant wish to
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make a statement? It's not necessary.
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You can if you want. Okay. Any public
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comment on this item? Anybody online?
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Donna,
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>> no one's online with a hand raised.
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Mayor,
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>> thank you. We'll bring it back for any
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discussion or a motion.
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>> I move we approve resolution 2615.
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>> Is there a second?
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>> I'll second.
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Mayor McMillan,
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>> yes.
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>> Mayor Prom Robbins,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Kercher,
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>> yes.
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>> And Council Member Deli,
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>> yes. The motion passes.
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>> Thank you.
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» Next is 10B3 Allen Lane, Design Review,
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Variance, and Town Council consideration
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of adoption of resolution number 2614,
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approving the project subject to
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conditions. Alex. Good evening, mayor,
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council members. Uh the neighbor of five
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Allen, 3 Allen Avenue, Elaine, is
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requesting town council consideration
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for designer view and variance. They
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also are uh renovating their rear yard
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uh to construct a new pool and patio.
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And at the ADR meeting March 17th, the
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board voted the ADR board voted 3 to
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zero of the project in support of the
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project with modifications. The primary
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concern was the pool's proximity to the
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side and rear yard property line. The
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and the AD armor recommended increasing
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the setbacks. In response, the applicant
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did revise the plans by reducing the
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length of the pool and patio resulting
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in an increased setbacks along the side
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and rear yard setback. And also in the
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construction management plan for this
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one, the applicant indicated that uh
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they will provide three parkings on site
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and no parking, no street parking. Staff
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request that the town council consider
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adopting resolution 2614
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approving designer review and a
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variance. Thank you.
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>> Thank you. And that's wonderful news
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about the parking. Also questions from
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council members.
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Um
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the the applicant can make a statement,
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but it's probably not necessary.
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Okay. Um any public comment on this
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item?
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>> No one online, mayor.
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>> And nobody in the chambers. Um we'll
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bring it back for discussion or a
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motion.
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>> I move we approve resolution 2614.
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>> And I will second.
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>> Mayor McMillan.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mayor Prom Robbins.
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>> Yes.
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>> Council member Kercher. Yes.
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>> Council member Dalling.
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>> Yes.
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>> The motion passes.
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>> You're welcome.
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>> Thank you.
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» Okay, that is the end of public hearing
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on planning project one.
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We're moving to the administrative
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agenda item number 11. Town council con
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to consider adopting resolution number
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2618 approving the police chief
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employment agreement between the town of
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Ross and Raul Ernesto Aguilar for the
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period April 27, 2026 through June 30,
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2029 and amending the salary schedule.
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Town manager Johnson. Thank you, Mayor.
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Uh, current police chief Pota is
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retiring after serving as the town's
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police chief since March of 2021. The
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town conducted a thorough process for
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selecting a new police chief and Raul
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Enrersto um Aglar was the top candidate
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for the position. Chief Aglar brings
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more than 25 years of law enforcement
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experience in Marin County to the town
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of Ross. He previously served with the
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San Rafale Police Department in a range
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of specialized assignments and later
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held leadership roles overseeing
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traffic, street crimes, and community
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engagement teams. Most recently, he
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served as chief of police and director
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of safety at the College of Marin.
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Deeply committed to community
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partnership, Chief Aglar prioritizes
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building trust through transparency,
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accessibility, and compassionate
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service. He believes that strong
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relationships between residents and
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public safety professionals are
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foundational to a thriving community.
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Chief Aglar meets all the state
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requirements for the position and in
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addition holds a master's degree from
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the Goldman School of Public Policy at
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UC Berkeley. I negotiated an employment
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agreement with Chief Aglar structured
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similar to the existing employment
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agreement with the current police chief.
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The agreement is for 3 years and 2
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months through June 30th, 2029 and
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expresses the terms of the agreement
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between the town and police chief
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including salary and benefits. The
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town's pens pension system uh called
[23:16]
Kalpers requires the town council to
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adopt a salary schedule by resolution.
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Each time salaries change, the town must
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adopt a new resolution amending the
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salary schedule to reflect the changes.
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In summary, it's recommended that the
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council adopt resolution number uh 2618
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approving the police chief employment
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agreement
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um and amending the town salary
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schedule. Thank you.
[23:44]
>> Thank you. Questions, council members.
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Public comment on this item.
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Anybody online?
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>> No one's online. Mayor,
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>> thank you, Donna. We'll bring it back
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then for discussion and a motion.
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Well, I would uh recommend we adopt
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resolution number 2618 approving the
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police chief employment agreement
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between the town of Ross and Ral Ernesto
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Aguular for the period of April 27 to
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2026 through June 30th, 2029 and
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amending the town salary schedule.
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>> Second
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making a motion or recommend.
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>> I I make the motion. Thank you so much.
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Thank you,
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>> Mayor McMillan.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mayor Prom Robbins.
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>> Yes.
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>> Council member Kercher,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Dowling,
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>> yes.
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>> The motion passes.
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>> Uh, thank you, Town Council. And um, now
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that you've taken action, I would like
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to take a moment to introduce Chief
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Aglar. And he is here this evening. And
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if you would be so kind, chief, as to
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come up to the podium.
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And uh just this is this is our new
[25:07]
chief. Yay.
[25:08]
>> YAY.
[25:16]
» Good evening. Thank you very much for
[25:18]
the warm welcome and uh thank you very
[25:20]
much to Mayor McMillan, honorable
[25:23]
members of town council and um Miss
[25:26]
Johnson. Uh, I want to thank you for the
[25:28]
opportunity for this.
[25:30]
>> Oh, he needs the mic on.
[25:32]
>> Sorry, we have to turn your microphone
[25:33]
on.
[25:38]
» Perfect. Um, I want to thank you for the
[25:41]
opportunity, and I am committed to
[25:44]
leading uh the department with
[25:45]
integrity, accountability, and
[25:48]
transparency, and a a deep commitment to
[25:51]
our shared goals. Um, so I look forward
[25:54]
to working with all of you. And once
[25:56]
again, thank you for the opportunity.
[25:59]
>> Thank you.
[26:07]
Uh we will be uh the chief's uh starts
[26:10]
on April 27th and at your meeting um
[26:15]
assuming the c well the council just
[26:17]
made the decision to move your meeting
[26:18]
to April 29th, we'll plan on having a a
[26:21]
swearing in and and some other
[26:24]
opportunities to um celebrate our
[26:27]
outgoing chief and to welcome our new
[26:30]
chief. So thank you so much.
[26:32]
Thank you. Good work.
[26:35]
Number 12, town council to consider
[26:37]
adopting resolution number 2611 amending
[26:40]
the town fee schedule and receive a
[26:42]
presentation from staff in NBS of the
[26:45]
fee study report. I don't think we're
[26:48]
doing that again, are we?
[26:50]
>> We are again. Okay. and and receive a
[26:53]
presentation from staff and NBS of the
[26:56]
fee study report including evaluation of
[26:59]
fees for services for administration and
[27:01]
finance, planning, building, public
[27:03]
works, police and general plan updates.
[27:06]
Roberta,
[27:06]
>> good evening mayor and council members.
[27:09]
Our presentation is only five minutes,
[27:11]
so it'll just hit the key points on the
[27:14]
fee study. So, this item is for the
[27:17]
council to consider the adoption of
[27:20]
resolution number 2611, which is an
[27:23]
amendment to the town's schedule based
[27:25]
on the fee study report. The council did
[27:29]
receive a presentation during the
[27:30]
February meeting regarding the purpose,
[27:33]
the analysis from the fee study uh which
[27:36]
evaluated finance and administration,
[27:40]
planning and building, police and public
[27:42]
work fees to accurately reflect the
[27:45]
actual cost of providing those services.
[27:49]
Since then, staff did add a false alarm
[27:52]
fee um which would apply after three
[27:55]
occurrences per calendar year. State law
[27:58]
allows the town to recover but not
[28:00]
exceed the reasonable cost of staff time
[28:04]
and resources required to process
[28:06]
applications,
[28:07]
conduct inspections,
[28:09]
and provide services that require fees
[28:12]
to be supported by a cost of service
[28:15]
analysis as outlined in the fee study
[28:19]
report. The recommended fees are
[28:22]
consistent with Prop 26. Since the last
[28:26]
update in 2016,
[28:28]
staffing costs, workloads, and
[28:31]
regulatory requirements have changed.
[28:33]
So, the study updates the fees based on
[28:36]
current service levels and documented
[28:39]
time spent with the goal of fair cost
[28:43]
recovery. So, the action before the
[28:45]
council tonight is to adopt the
[28:48]
resolution approving the updated town
[28:50]
fee schedule as presented in the staff
[28:53]
report and resolution and will be
[28:56]
effective July 1st. So, now let me turn
[28:59]
it over to Nicole Kissum with NBS to
[29:03]
provide a fiveminute highlight of a few
[29:06]
of the key points from the fee study and
[29:08]
then after that Nicole and I are happy
[29:10]
to answer any questions.
[29:15]
So, uh, good evening everybody. Um,
[29:18]
Nicole Cassam here with NBS. I'm not
[29:21]
sure if you can see me. Can you see me?
[29:26]
» Nope.
[29:30]
And Robera, I don't I don't have sharing
[29:33]
capabilities, so I don't know if you're
[29:36]
putting the presentation up.
[29:38]
>> Sure.
[29:42]
Nicole, can you accept the prompt?
[29:50]
» Okay, there we go. Good evening
[29:52]
everyone.
[30:01]
So, Robera, would you like me to share
[30:03]
the presentation from my screen or do
[30:05]
you have it up?
[30:09]
» Could you say that again? I didn't quite
[30:10]
hear you.
[30:11]
>> Oh, yes, please.
[30:12]
>> Okay, no problem. Um, good memory. Yes,
[30:16]
we were. Okay, so I do not have screen
[30:19]
sharing capabilities, so that the clerk
[30:21]
would need to grant me grant me that
[30:44]
Okay, looks like we're moving now. Can
[30:46]
everybody see the presentation?
[30:48]
>> Yes.
[30:50]
>> Great. Thank you. And I I heard when you
[30:52]
introduced this item, are we doing this
[30:54]
again? Um, you are correct. We were here
[30:56]
in February and we made a much more
[30:59]
extensive presentation about the fee
[31:02]
study and its results and what all goes
[31:04]
into it. This is a very truncated
[31:06]
version just to refresh your memory and
[31:09]
you know provide a refresh for any
[31:12]
community members that maybe weren't
[31:14]
there um in February that might be
[31:16]
interested.
[31:19]
So I'm just going to review very briefly
[31:22]
what the goals of the study are, how we
[31:24]
approached it, what the results are, and
[31:26]
of course leave time for questions.
[31:29]
Um, so the goal of any fee study, we're
[31:31]
calculating fees for services and in
[31:34]
California, fees cannot exceed the cost
[31:37]
of providing services. So the majority
[31:40]
of our work with the town is to
[31:42]
establish what the full cost of service
[31:45]
is for each individual fee. And step two
[31:48]
is where we're at tonight where the
[31:50]
council uh hopefully is taking action to
[31:52]
set fees according to local policies.
[31:58]
So these types of fees are cost recovery
[32:00]
opportunities. They can be adopted by
[32:03]
town council. They don't require any
[32:05]
voter or voter protest. These are fees,
[32:08]
not taxes. And we also did not analyze
[32:11]
anything that is not a fee for service.
[32:14]
So where you see that no bubble, we did
[32:16]
not look at any taxes, fines, penalties,
[32:18]
impact fees, etc.
[32:22]
So these are the fee programs that the
[32:24]
town has that we studied. We've got some
[32:26]
miscellaneous administrative fees. Um
[32:29]
quite a few I think your core fee
[32:30]
programs are really your planning and
[32:32]
building departments and public works.
[32:35]
Police has some miscellaneous
[32:37]
administrative uh and processing fees.
[32:40]
And as Robera mentioned in her intro,
[32:42]
the last time we really did this big of
[32:44]
a deep dive was uh almost 10 years ago
[32:47]
in 2016.
[32:50]
So the way we approach any fee study is
[32:53]
really we collect certain types of data
[32:56]
um mostly budget information, staffing
[32:58]
information, current fee schedule
[33:00]
information, workload information. We
[33:02]
review the fee structures in each fee
[33:04]
program to make sure that fees are
[33:07]
structured fairly equitably and do
[33:10]
target cost recovery.
[33:12]
Um we also sometimes need to bring
[33:14]
things up to date or remove fees that
[33:16]
are not used anymore. Uh and then from
[33:19]
there we perform the cost analysis which
[33:21]
is what makes the fees defensible and we
[33:24]
look at that on in three ways annually,
[33:27]
hourly and per unit which per unit just
[33:29]
means per fee. So, where you guys are at
[33:32]
tonight is adopting the outcomes of the
[33:35]
study and setting each individual fee
[33:38]
according to the 100% maximum or less
[33:41]
depending on on a local policy.
[33:45]
So, this is the annual summary of
[33:47]
results here just to recap this also in
[33:49]
the staff report. So what we found is
[33:53]
that on average or d for the time period
[33:55]
of the study um the town is collecting
[33:58]
about 1.3 million in these different fee
[34:01]
programs. So we didn't have any
[34:03]
information to um get that for some a
[34:06]
handful of fees for admin and finance.
[34:09]
But when we compare that to the full
[34:10]
cost recovery levels for each fee
[34:12]
program the town could recover 1.6
[34:15]
million in costs. So you can see here in
[34:19]
this table where it says existing cost
[34:20]
recovery percentage um building is is
[34:24]
recovering closest to 100% cost and then
[34:27]
every every other fee program is you
[34:30]
know somewhere around 60 70% and police
[34:33]
very low because police has very few
[34:36]
fees. So, by industry standard, this is
[34:40]
a pretty good outcome
[34:42]
um for an overall 84% recovery rate. And
[34:45]
the recommendations that staff have
[34:47]
provided to set all fees at 100% or
[34:50]
lower are just bringing that up um a
[34:53]
little bit from where the current revenues stand.
[35:00]
Um so, there are some fees that are
[35:02]
recommended at below 100%, those are
[35:04]
listed in the staff report. We're just
[35:06]
repeating them here. So, in planning and
[35:08]
building, there are a handful of fees um
[35:11]
that the town would like to keep low.
[35:13]
ADU permits,
[35:16]
small design review permits, use
[35:18]
permits, uh solar, which is capped by
[35:21]
the state law, and resale inspections.
[35:24]
And then with police, you know, a lot of
[35:27]
these processing fees are very difficult
[35:30]
to charge at 100%. they depend on
[35:32]
ability to pay and sometimes people are
[35:34]
just trying to get these reports you
[35:36]
know for insurance purposes and so
[35:38]
forth. So with police it's really to
[35:40]
make the service available and encourage
[35:43]
compliance while getting just a little
[35:44]
bit of incremental recovery.
[35:48]
That's it. We truncated this down to
[35:50]
five minutes. So if you have any
[35:51]
questions or anywhere where I can, you
[35:53]
know, elaborate for you, let me know.
[35:56]
>> Thank you very much. That was very
[35:58]
concise and we appreciate it. Questions
[36:01]
from council.
[36:04]
Public comment.
[36:06]
Anybody online?
[36:08]
>> No one's online.
[36:10]
>> Okay, we'll bring it back for discussion
[36:12]
or a motion. I just want to say I I
[36:15]
really I mean it's a dense report, but I
[36:18]
really appreciated all the work that
[36:19]
went into this. It's also the staff's
[36:22]
work that went into this, too, to
[36:24]
determine the cost. So, um it's nice to
[36:27]
know that we've got something that's so
[36:29]
um well done and well organized. So,
[36:32]
thank you.
[36:37]
» I I move we approve resolution 2611.
[36:41]
>> I'll second.
[36:43]
>> Mayor McMillan,
[36:45]
>> yes.
[36:46]
>> Mayor Prom Robbins,
[36:47]
>> yes.
[36:48]
>> Council member Kercher,
[36:50]
>> yes.
[36:50]
>> Council member Dalling,
[36:51]
>> yes.
[36:52]
>> The motion passes.
[36:54]
Thank you for all your great work on
[36:56]
this, Roberta.
[36:58]
>> Nicole. Yeah. Thanks so much.
[37:00]
>> Thank you. Have a good evening.
[37:01]
>> See you. We'll see you in 10 years.
[37:03]
>> Yeah.
[37:05]
Feels that way, too. Yes. Thank you so
[37:07]
much, guys. Bye.
[37:08]
>> Thank you. Bye. Bye. Item 13, Ross
[37:12]
Recreation Update. Moren,
[37:22]
» please give me a brief minute while I
[37:24]
load our presentation.
[38:28]
You don't need
[39:06]
Roberto is making herself indispensable.
[39:08]
She's gonna have to be here to the end
[39:10]
of every meeting.
[39:18]
We are getting there. Thank you for your
[39:20]
patience.
[39:26]
Okay. Good evening, mayor and members of
[39:30]
town council. Um I am Morin Borthwick,
[39:32]
your recreation manager. Um and sitting
[39:34]
next to me is Wyatt Man, our recreation
[39:36]
coordinator. Um and thank you for the
[39:38]
opportunity to present an update of the
[39:40]
Ross Recreation Department.
[39:44]
Uh to start off, we pretty much do this
[39:46]
every presentation. Um we just want to
[39:48]
remind the community um and town council
[39:50]
of Ross Recreation's mission um which is
[39:53]
to provide a program of instruction to
[39:55]
the public on subjects beneficial to the
[39:57]
Ross community in which an individual
[40:00]
may improve or develop him or herself
[40:02]
physically, mentally, andor socially.
[40:08]
Our team has changed a little bit over
[40:09]
the past year. We've added some
[40:11]
wonderful new um staff members and team
[40:13]
members. So, I wanted to reintroduce you
[40:15]
to them if you have not met them. Um
[40:17]
Ross is now fully staffed with an
[40:19]
experienced and engaged team. Serving in
[40:22]
the admin office is Mallerie Baron,
[40:24]
recreation clerk, Wyatt Man, uh
[40:26]
recreation coordinator, and myself,
[40:28]
Moren Berwick, recreation manager. Uh
[40:30]
Kira, uh Kira Ortiz, and Kelly Nunees
[40:34]
lead the after school kids club program.
[40:36]
Uh, Lorenzo Cowell, also known as Coach
[40:39]
C, is our Ross School after school
[40:42]
sports lead and kids club support. And
[40:44]
Sophia Vasquez is our happyhive after
[40:47]
school lead. Um, and coach John Mark
[40:49]
Schaefer, who is not pictured above, is
[40:51]
our sports program lead at Bayage
[40:53]
Elementary. Uh, the department is
[40:55]
focusing on team and individual
[40:57]
strengths to increase motivation,
[40:59]
morale, and overall performance, and the
[41:02]
results have been significant.
[41:07]
The team has produced a broad list of
[41:10]
new initiatives for uh fiscal year
[41:12]
ending 26, including those you see
[41:14]
listed and more. Programs span from new
[41:17]
game clubs like Dungeons and Dragons and
[41:20]
the Wheel Kids Bike Club to Driftwood
[41:23]
Painting and Wine Workshops for adults.
[41:26]
The department also worked with local
[41:28]
community sports clubs such as Ross
[41:30]
Valley Lacrosse um also known as the
[41:32]
Grizzlies um on after school lacrosse at
[41:35]
Ros School and at Bage.
[41:39]
In addition to new program initiatives,
[41:41]
Rex staff are proud to share the
[41:43]
following accomplishments thus far this
[41:45]
year. Um new to this year was our
[41:47]
agreement and partnership with Magic
[41:50]
Marine Art and Garden Center. Um helping
[41:52]
to kick off a successful program held on
[41:55]
Magic campus. uh such as HappyHive After
[41:57]
School for preschool students. Um the
[42:00]
team further expanded flexible
[42:01]
afterchool child care options such as
[42:04]
gap care for kids club families um for
[42:07]
kids club uh for families needing care
[42:09]
to fill the 1-hour gap between
[42:11]
kindergarten dismissal and dismissal for
[42:14]
older siblings or when later programs
[42:16]
begin. The team saw growth of the
[42:18]
RossRack Basketball League increasing to
[42:21]
312 players for this 2026 season. um
[42:26]
which was approximately 50 more players
[42:27]
than last year. The department has
[42:29]
offered over 150 programs to the Ross
[42:32]
community from September to today. This
[42:35]
does not include summer camps or events,
[42:37]
mind you. Um lastly, staff was expect
[42:40]
was excited to support the
[42:42]
reestablishment of the organic farm
[42:44]
stand on Ross Common um and and due to
[42:47]
the uh approval of the consent calendar
[42:49]
that it will be coming back again.
[42:54]
All right. Okay. So, focus on Kids Club
[42:56]
After School. So, an accomplishment in
[42:58]
its own right. Kids Club After School
[43:01]
has been flourishing with between 16 and
[43:04]
31 students now served daily. Um staff
[43:08]
have listened to families who have
[43:09]
requested support uh for the gap between
[43:12]
kinder dismissal um at 2 p.m. when their
[43:15]
older children are released at 2:45 p.m.
[43:18]
We have been successfully offering these
[43:20]
families this 1-hour care option at a
[43:23]
reduced rate to cover this gap. Still,
[43:25]
majority of families utilized the
[43:27]
program uh from the full program from
[43:29]
dismissal to 5:00 p.m. Additionally, new
[43:32]
to the fiscal year ending 26 uh season
[43:35]
was the uh 6 week short session for
[43:38]
kindergarten families. Uh this was a
[43:40]
separate kids club program registration
[43:42]
that covered the 6 weeks where
[43:44]
kindergarteners transition to the school
[43:47]
schedule. Uh, the program was offered to
[43:49]
kindergarten families from 12:30 p.m. to
[43:52]
5:00 p.m. for the duration of the the
[43:54]
first 6 weeks of school.
[43:57]
Um, our total year-to- date um income
[44:00]
for Kids Club um was is currently
[44:03]
$124,000.
[44:05]
Um, and that's uh in comparison to the
[44:07]
$99,000 from from last year. So
[44:11]
um yeah, so we are very excited of the
[44:13]
um of just the growth and support from
[44:17]
the community um to see this program
[44:19]
grow and flourish.
[44:23]
Right on to Happy Hive. Uh so created
[44:26]
with kids club in mind. Um HappyHive
[44:28]
afterchool program began this past fall
[44:31]
with the launch of theou agreement. Uh,
[44:34]
similar to kids club, Happy Hive runs
[44:36]
daily and is offered to garden school
[44:38]
preschool families from 1:00 p.m. to 3
[44:40]
p.m. with a 4pm extended care option.
[44:46]
The program began with five students per
[44:48]
day and now serves 9 to 11 students per
[44:51]
day, which is our max capacity.
[44:54]
Um, our total year-to- date revenue for
[44:56]
this program um is $51,000.
[44:59]
Um so 12% of that actually comes from if
[45:02]
you look at our chart um so 12% of that
[45:04]
comes from our we created a flexible
[45:06]
drop in pack. Um so 12% of that income
[45:08]
comes from that. Um we also are offering
[45:11]
no school day camps for when the garden
[45:13]
school is not offering um school. Um so
[45:15]
12% comes from that and then 34% comes
[45:18]
from our fall enrollment and now 42%
[45:21]
from uh current winter enrollment which
[45:23]
uh uh is January through June.
[45:31]
All right. So, looking more broadly
[45:32]
across the department, um fiscal year
[45:35]
ending 26 estimated revenue is expected
[45:38]
to reach close to a million dollars in
[45:41]
comparison to our budget of $97
[45:44]
uh,000. Um, significant callouts include
[45:47]
growth in the kids classes account due
[45:49]
to an increase in daily enrollment um
[45:52]
and the addition of the six-w week
[45:54]
kinder short session. Um, also
[45:56]
successful Happy Hive After School and
[45:58]
an increase in the basketball league
[46:00]
program enrollment.
[46:02]
Um, excuse me. The department did see a
[46:04]
modest reduction in field rentals um due
[46:08]
to the loss of the Ross Valley Lacrosse
[46:09]
Club. Uh, staff are working on ways to
[46:12]
promote field rentals to other sports
[46:14]
groups and community partners. Um, two
[46:16]
account categories tots um and
[46:19]
contributions are held at 0% for the
[46:20]
year as we do not receive income uh for
[46:22]
either of these. Um, and currently TOT's
[46:25]
classes fall under kids class accounts
[46:27]
which will be split into its own account
[46:29]
for next year so we can see the
[46:30]
breakdown a little bit better. Um, staff
[46:32]
look to continue strengthening our
[46:34]
positive momentum across the board in
[46:36]
all program categories well into the
[46:38]
summer and next fiscal year.
[46:43]
Okay. Um, expenses year-to- date um are
[46:47]
higher than expected due to our class
[46:49]
program growth and an increase in
[46:50]
overall enrollment. Specific callouts
[46:53]
include an increase in the contract
[46:54]
instructor program line that is around4
[46:57]
to $50,000 um 40 to $50,000 um higher
[47:01]
than budgeted due to an increase in
[47:03]
contractled classes. Additionally, staff
[47:06]
are reporting an increase in wages and
[47:08]
benefits um due to the need for more
[47:10]
staff. Uh for example, kids club went
[47:13]
from two staff members daily to three in
[47:16]
order to accommodate the growing program
[47:18]
and meet ratio safety and fun standards.
[47:25]
Okay. Uh, Rex staff have placed a
[47:28]
greater emphasis on community
[47:30]
involvement this year. Uh, Rossre has
[47:33]
been an active partner in RPOA, Ross
[47:36]
Auxiliary, Age Friendly Ross, and Ross
[47:38]
School events, most recently activating
[47:40]
a live action Candyland at the March
[47:43]
28th Spring Fling event.
[47:46]
Staff are also hard at work preparing
[47:48]
for the 2026 Fourth of July parade and
[47:51]
celebration. Um, which is scheduled to
[47:53]
kick kick off on Saturday, July 4th from
[47:56]
10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Shifting gears
[47:59]
slightly for this year, staff is excited
[48:01]
to organize the American Pie Baking
[48:03]
Contest uh for all baking enthusiasts
[48:07]
and bring back the popular mechanical
[48:09]
bowl. Uh, don't worry. Our patriotic
[48:12]
pooches will be highlighted in our
[48:14]
parade in the Dogs on Parade group. Um,
[48:16]
staff have also set a date for the 2026
[48:19]
Rosstown dinner. Um, which will be held
[48:21]
on Friday, September 4th. Um, after a
[48:24]
successful 2025 event, the Rostown
[48:26]
dinner will once again be held at Magic
[48:28]
Campus. Um, it will just be moved to the
[48:30]
Great Lad Gazebo while construction is
[48:32]
happening. Uh lastly, staff have begun
[48:34]
initial planning for the 2026 Ross
[48:37]
Turkey Trot, which will be held on
[48:39]
Sunday, November 15th.
[48:44]
Next steps for the department includes a
[48:47]
focus on summer camp enrollment and
[48:48]
promoting our incredible lineup of
[48:50]
summer programs. Running the Happy Hive
[48:53]
spring break camp for 2 to 5-year-olds
[48:54]
next week. Firming up plans for the 2026
[48:58]
Fourth of July parade and celebration.
[49:00]
Uh coordinating the fall 2026 program
[49:03]
guide book. And continuing to nurture
[49:05]
important partnerships and
[49:06]
collaborations across Ross and
[49:09]
throughout Marin County.
[49:13]
Thank you, mayor and members of town
[49:14]
council. Um, if you have any questions,
[49:17]
we are here to answer them.
[49:19]
>> Thank you, Moren. That was a great
[49:20]
report. Questions? Council members?
[49:24]
>> I I just had a question. Um, I recall
[49:28]
several years ago we were on the verge
[49:30]
of cancelling the kids club. Is that
[49:32]
correct?
[49:33]
>> That is correct.
[49:34]
>> And now it's thriving, surging. Yes.
[49:37]
>> It's great.
[49:38]
>> Okay. Great. um public comment on this
[49:41]
item.
[49:43]
Anybody online, Donna?
[49:46]
>> No one's online. Mayor,
[49:48]
>> thank you. Then we'll bring it back for
[49:50]
um any further discussion. Elizabeth, I
[49:54]
>> I wanted to mention kids club also. Um
[49:57]
you know, we we were the only town that
[50:00]
didn't have any afterchool care for
[50:01]
quite a long time and kids club was
[50:03]
really on its last legs. Elizabeth Breus
[50:06]
gets a lot of credit for pushing hard to
[50:08]
keep it going, but you've really run
[50:10]
with it and made it something that that
[50:13]
a lot of families want to participate
[50:15]
in. I think that's really wonderful.
[50:17]
You've done a great job with kids club.
[50:19]
>> Thank you. I would I definitely want to
[50:21]
recognize um the whole Ros team for that
[50:23]
effort. Um it is definitely not just me.
[50:26]
It is it is their staff. They are
[50:28]
wonderful. They listen to families. Um
[50:30]
and we created a flexible option that
[50:33]
families want. Um, and that is clearly
[50:36]
shown here.
[50:39]
Great. Thank you, Moren. Thank you,
[50:41]
Wyatt. Wonderful.
[50:46]
» 14. town council to receive a
[50:48]
presentation from Fieldman Rolop, the
[50:50]
town's municipal advisor, regarding the
[50:53]
town's financial condition, budget
[50:55]
outlook, and capacity to support debt
[50:57]
service associated with implementation
[51:00]
of the facility's master plan and
[51:02]
potential capital and operating costs
[51:04]
related to the friends of the Ross
[51:06]
Firehouse FORF initiative.
[51:11]
Manager Johnson,
[51:16]
» thank you. Um, we have a space
[51:18]
constraint. David, would you like to do
[51:20]
the introduction just from the podium?
[51:22]
Is that all right?
[51:25]
>> Oh, okay. Okay. Um,
[51:29]
just a moment.
[51:53]
Are are I'm I'm just waiting. Are you
[51:56]
guys happy to you ready to go? Okay.
[51:58]
Um I'll just give it just a short
[52:00]
presentation. So um good evening, mayor
[52:02]
and council members. Um this evening,
[52:04]
this item before you tonight is not an
[52:06]
action item. It's a presentation and um
[52:09]
I worked with our project manager David
[52:11]
Kelly to um bring this forward to the
[52:15]
council because your uh facility uh
[52:19]
master plan to be implemented is could
[52:22]
very well require um some kind of
[52:24]
financing plan. And so I think that
[52:27]
there I'd like to start off with with
[52:29]
having an education for the council and as well as staff as well as um our
[52:35]
res our residents and um members of the
[52:39]
uh citizens committee that has gotten
[52:41]
together these past couple of months. I
[52:43]
thought this would be a good opportunity
[52:45]
to have us all learn about the different
[52:47]
kinds of financing that is available and
[52:50]
um have some professionals take a look
[52:52]
at our budget to um be able to confir in
[52:56]
our 5-year uh financial forecast just to
[52:59]
confirm with some of the things that I
[53:02]
and our and the staff team have been
[53:04]
saying about the the status of our of
[53:07]
our financial well-being. So, um, we
[53:10]
have a, uh, David Kelly prepared with me
[53:13]
the staff report that's in your agenda.
[53:15]
Attached to it, we have a memorandum
[53:18]
that was prepared by our consultants
[53:20]
with Fieldmen and Rollup. And, um, they
[53:23]
are here this evening. I'm going to let
[53:25]
them introduce themselves and take off
[53:28]
with our presentation. Um what should we
[53:32]
um are we going to see if the council
[53:34]
wants to ask questions as we go through
[53:37]
the slides? Is that as okay? We didn't
[53:39]
discuss that earlier.
[53:42]
>> That is that all right mayor if you
[53:45]
>> probably makes more sense.
[53:46]
>> Yeah. Some of the um slides have have
[53:49]
some have have a good good robust amount
[53:51]
of information. So I think it would be
[53:53]
good for the council to be able to ask
[53:54]
questions as you go along. And um David
[53:58]
Kelly did put out a um a request for
[54:02]
proposals to have this work done. The
[54:05]
scope of work was specific to uh review
[54:08]
our materials, our our budget documents
[54:10]
and other other financial information
[54:13]
and prepare this presentation for the
[54:15]
council. And we did receive three
[54:18]
proposals and uh our treasurer Jeff
[54:22]
was able to uh take a a review of the
[54:25]
proposals along with David Kelly and
[54:27]
myself and we chose um the firm of
[54:30]
Fieldman rollup to to do this work for
[54:33]
the town. We entered into an agreement
[54:36]
uh with them to prepare for this and uh
[54:40]
we gave them about a week or week or 10
[54:43]
days to prepare this. So really
[54:45]
appreciate that um they've stepped up to
[54:47]
the plate and and helped us put together
[54:50]
this information from the council. So um
[54:52]
thank you. I'm going to let you guys
[54:53]
introduce yourselves if that's okay.
[54:58]
» Good evening. Um Mary McMillan and
[55:01]
council members. My name is Onie Veren
[55:02]
and I'm from Fieldman Rele Associates
[55:04]
and I'm here with my colleague.
[55:07]
>> Hi. Good evening. I'm Dan Shaw. I'm also
[55:09]
with Fieldman. Yeah. And just uh before
[55:12]
we get started, just a a quick uh
[55:14]
overview of our firm. Um we're based out
[55:17]
of California in Irvine. We have offices
[55:20]
um in in the Bay Area. Um we've been in
[55:24]
the industry for over 60 years and our
[55:27]
sole practice is advising public sector
[55:31]
agencies, cities, school districts,
[55:33]
federal districts throughout the state.
[55:36]
Um we're a regulated industry. We're
[55:38]
licensed by the the SEC. We both have
[55:40]
our licenses and it's very important um
[55:44]
or understanding our role. We act as a
[55:46]
fiduciary to our clients. Uh we provide
[55:50]
um advice um that's in the best interest
[55:52]
of our clients only. So um with that we
[55:56]
can turn the next page. Uh this is uh
[55:59]
just an overview of what we plan to
[56:02]
review tonight. Um just discussing the
[56:06]
town's
[56:07]
um capital plans and needs that your
[56:12]
financial capacity in terms of your
[56:14]
general fund uh and discussing your your
[56:17]
budget trends. Um and discussing the the
[56:21]
funding gaps of the capital facilities
[56:23]
that uh you're currently reviewing and
[56:26]
potential revenue options.
[56:33]
And be before we get into the town's
[56:35]
funding needs, we wanted to review uh
[56:38]
the the the town's revenue profile. As
[56:42]
you um know, the the town's revenue
[56:45]
profile is largely based on property tax
[56:47]
base
[56:49]
u revenues. Um 85% of those coming
[56:53]
currently from property taxes.
[56:55]
uh 13% coming from your measure E uh
[56:59]
parcel tax and the the remaining 2% are
[57:03]
from other sources like uh sales tax uh
[57:06]
business license tax and property
[57:08]
transfer taxes. So uh you have uh the
[57:11]
majority of uh your revenues coming from
[57:14]
property tax revenues which are um a
[57:18]
very stable revenue source there. there
[57:20]
isn't a lot of variation there. And um
[57:24]
and uh in terms of your projections, the
[57:29]
projections are largely fixed and really
[57:32]
are heavily dependent on your assessed
[57:34]
valuation growth.
[57:41]
» So in uh what is the the town trying to
[57:45]
fund? We have three buckets of uh CIP
[57:49]
plans here.
[57:50]
Um the the first one is the the town's
[57:54]
facilities master plan ranging
[57:57]
in cost of 26 million to $30 million.
[58:03]
The friends of Ross firehouse or fourth
[58:06]
initiative which include a capital cost
[58:10]
of about 22 million to $28 million as
[58:14]
well as ongoing operation needs of uh
[58:18]
about 3.4 four million to five 5 million
[58:21]
a year. And the third bucket covers the town's ongoing capital improvement
[58:29]
uh funding needs that are supported
[58:32]
currently by the town's general fund and
[58:34]
those range from
[58:36]
um about
[58:39]
those total about $3 million a year and
[58:41]
that includes a million dollars for your
[58:43]
Ross common project uh funds for
[58:46]
facilities and equipment projects as
[58:48]
well as your undergrounding project.
[58:58]
So this slide provides
[59:02]
u numbers setting out the the town's
[59:06]
financial
[59:08]
capacity. So what can you realistically
[59:12]
afford based on what your current
[59:15]
revenues produce? And that's
[59:17]
approximately about $1.2 million. based
[59:20]
on your adopted fiscal year 26 budget.
[59:25]
Um, we applied uh Standard Empors or
[59:28]
S&P. They're a a leading credit rating
[59:31]
agency in in our industry and their
[59:36]
general rule of thumb is that for a
[59:39]
well-managed
[59:40]
uh municipality
[59:43]
uh that um their general fund shouldn't
[59:46]
carry more than 60 6 to 8% of their
[59:50]
general revenues. So for Ross that means
[59:54]
a maximum of about $670,000
[59:57]
to $890,000.
[1:00:00]
Those are your outer limits of of debt
[1:00:02]
service that can can be carried each
[1:00:04]
year. And so um just to bring that into
[1:00:08]
context, we ran um certain hypothetical
[1:00:12]
bonding scenarios. And what we've shown
[1:00:15]
in this graph here is the debt service,
[1:00:19]
the estimated debt service uh needed to
[1:00:22]
produce a $10 million bond issuance,
[1:00:25]
that is about uh uh roughly $650,000 a
[1:00:31]
year in annual debt service. So, uh
[1:00:33]
while that is just slightly below the
[1:00:37]
S&P guidelines of 6%, you you know there isn't a lot of room there. Um,
[1:00:43]
when we look at the $20 million bond
[1:00:45]
issue, it jumps up to an annual debt
[1:00:48]
service of approximately $1.3 million.
[1:00:50]
And that uh it far exceeds what you can afford at
[1:00:57]
this time. And then again, looking at uh
[1:00:59]
a bond issuance of $30 million, that's
[1:01:03]
uh approximately $1.9 million in in
[1:01:06]
annual debt service.
[1:01:09]
So,
[1:01:10]
go ahead. have a question on this. Is is
[1:01:13]
this assuming that the town is using its
[1:01:15]
facilities to service the or mortgage
[1:01:19]
the debt or is this assuming that
[1:01:21]
there's some kind of an election and all
[1:01:24]
the homeowners are being assessed? So,
[1:01:26]
this is just looking at your current
[1:01:28]
picture. If you if the town were to move
[1:01:31]
forward, you would need to approve some
[1:01:33]
sort of new tax revenue to do that. And
[1:01:36]
then um Dan will get into the different
[1:01:38]
type of uh debt options available to
[1:01:41]
you. Um there is a lease revenue option
[1:01:45]
that the town will have to um encumber
[1:01:49]
to move forward with that type of
[1:01:51]
financing. Um we'll talk about a geo
[1:01:53]
bond financing which does not require
[1:01:55]
that. I don't know if that answers your
[1:01:58]
question.
[1:01:59]
So, may I may I just add um mayor that
[1:02:02]
this is if the town were to take out
[1:02:04]
debt itself. This is not this is not
[1:02:07]
before going to to property owners. This
[1:02:09]
is just if we wanted to take out a loan,
[1:02:13]
and I'm sure we'd have to secure it in
[1:02:15]
some way, right? But if we wanted to
[1:02:16]
take out a loan, do we have the capacity
[1:02:19]
to do this to pay for it ourselves
[1:02:22]
without going to the voters? That's what
[1:02:24]
the voters are, you know, they're going
[1:02:25]
to want to know. Are you sure you guys
[1:02:27]
can't afford to pay for it out of your
[1:02:28]
existing budget? And that's what this is demonstrating that
[1:02:35]
according to the S&P guideline, you
[1:02:37]
know, we might be able to come up they
[1:02:39]
we might be able to come up with some
[1:02:41]
money. However, I just wanted to note
[1:02:44]
that if you look at the green line when
[1:02:45]
it says that 10 million, we could come
[1:02:48]
up with um maybe we could come up with
[1:02:50]
$600,000 a year. Right now, for example,
[1:02:53]
for the past several years, the council
[1:02:55]
has been putting away um paying uh
[1:02:58]
optional payments to um Kalpers to
[1:03:03]
address unfunded pension liability in uh
[1:03:07]
at at a minimum of $200,000 a year. So,
[1:03:10]
you make that choice with that. You've
[1:03:12]
also been putting funding aside in your
[1:03:14]
capital projects fund. So those are the
[1:03:16]
things that when they talk about there
[1:03:18]
wouldn't be a buffer,
[1:03:21]
you wouldn't be able to do. You would it
[1:03:23]
would be very difficult for you would
[1:03:24]
take away a lot of your discretionary um decision making. Am am I am I
[1:03:31]
speaking out of turn or is that right?
[1:03:32]
>> That's okay.
[1:03:34]
>> Thank you.
[1:03:35]
So this slide assumes that the town
[1:03:37]
would be funding the debt based on the
[1:03:41]
town's revenues and budget and
[1:03:44]
facilities that could be mortgaged or
[1:03:46]
you know secured for for the debt. I
[1:03:49]
think it's important to understand that
[1:03:51]
>> that's what this slide is.
[1:03:52]
>> Yes.
[1:03:53]
>> Okay. Great. The the takeaway that is
[1:03:55]
that the town can only afford a very
[1:03:58]
little amount each year to pay towards
[1:04:02]
debt. It needs to go to the voters for
[1:04:06]
approval of additional taxes or or bond repayment.
[1:04:11]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:04:20]
» So, this slide illustrates something
[1:04:22]
that isn't obvious by looking at a a
[1:04:24]
balanced budget. Um the the town's
[1:04:27]
revenue grows by 4%. It's largely based
[1:04:30]
on your property tax revenues growing 4%
[1:04:33]
in each year. Um the the expenses
[1:04:37]
are a different story. um those are
[1:04:40]
growing um according to the the town um
[1:04:45]
by a higher number each year of anywhere
[1:04:47]
from 6 to 10% per year and those cover
[1:04:51]
um various expenses like personal
[1:04:53]
expenses, fire, uh insurance and and
[1:04:56]
pensions costs and those are growing
[1:04:58]
faster than your your revenues of 4%
[1:05:01]
each year. So there's a gap. Um and uh
[1:05:05]
what the town has been doing is that
[1:05:07]
you've been uh reducing transfers to the
[1:05:11]
general fund. Um excuse me, you've been
[1:05:13]
reducing transfers to the capital fund
[1:05:16]
to help bal balance the budget. And so
[1:05:18]
over time you the gap between the the
[1:05:22]
revenues and expenditures will just
[1:05:24]
grow. Um so your um
[1:05:30]
uh cushion will decline as well. And so
[1:05:33]
it'll be more much more difficult for
[1:05:35]
the town to balance its budget by
[1:05:38]
reducing um transfers to to the capital
[1:05:41]
fund. And um so we wanted to explain
[1:05:46]
that. So if you're taking on debt
[1:05:48]
without approving any new tax revenue
[1:05:51]
measures um there will be little to no
[1:05:56]
uh additional revenues to pay debt
[1:05:58]
service. Kim
[1:06:01]
>> another question on the expenditure
[1:06:03]
growth the six to 10% is that based on
[1:06:06]
this year
[1:06:08]
>> um I'll defer to David we uh received
[1:06:13]
that from the town
[1:06:13]
>> I'm just want my my question really is
[1:06:16]
how how much faster is that expenditure
[1:06:20]
trajectory going to go
[1:06:23]
>> that's a great question Mayor McMillan
[1:06:25]
and uh the the team was provided a copy
[1:06:29]
of the 5-year year forecast and we're in
[1:06:30]
the process of uh fully validating the
[1:06:34]
forecast and looking at the both revenue
[1:06:36]
growth and the expense growth. Uh the growth in expenditures of 6 to 10%
[1:06:42]
per year is is not so much reflective of
[1:06:44]
this year's budget but future year's
[1:06:46]
budget. Um and so kind of the point of
[1:06:49]
it is that uh as you see those the
[1:06:52]
expenditures grow, you're going to have
[1:06:54]
less flexibility within the budget to
[1:06:57]
fund the debt ser you know to to to fund
[1:07:00]
uh or uh have the general fund fund any
[1:07:03]
debt service. Uh even though it's
[1:07:05]
already limited uh in terms of the
[1:07:08]
amount that could contribute to debt
[1:07:10]
service, it's likely to be uh
[1:07:13]
constrained going forward. So it's
[1:07:15]
really kind of uh looking ahead um and
[1:07:18]
which is very prudent to do is to to
[1:07:20]
look at the forecast and see you know
[1:07:22]
what is the trend going forward and and that's what the 5-year forecast
[1:07:26]
really uh predicts and tells us is that
[1:07:29]
there's going to be um uh you know
[1:07:31]
greater expenditures
[1:07:33]
uh greater expenditure growth than than
[1:07:36]
revenue growth.
[1:07:37]
>> So the six to 10% is based on a
[1:07:40]
five-year projection going out.
[1:07:42]
>> That's correct.
[1:07:42]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:07:45]
David. And and I'd just like
[1:07:47]
to add, mayor and council, that um so
[1:07:49]
your your budget work session is in just
[1:07:51]
a few weeks, and one of the items we
[1:07:54]
always bring forward is an update of the
[1:07:57]
five-year um 5-year financial forecast.
[1:08:00]
So, we're scrambling right now to put
[1:08:03]
all that together in order to get it out
[1:08:05]
to the council. So, but this analysis
[1:08:07]
was based on on the one in the current
[1:08:10]
budget.
[1:08:12]
Yeah.
[1:08:15]
sit down.
[1:08:18]
>> So, the next couple of slides uh put
[1:08:20]
some numbers around the um the different
[1:08:24]
buckets of uh CIP plans that the the
[1:08:27]
town is reviewing. This first one
[1:08:29]
reviews the uh facility facilities
[1:08:32]
master plan and what the town can can
[1:08:35]
carry as far as debt service. Um again
[1:08:38]
the facil's master plan cost is between
[1:08:42]
26 million to $30 million. Um annual
[1:08:45]
debt service related to those uh amounts
[1:08:50]
are approximately $1.7 million on the
[1:08:53]
low end and approximately $1.9 million
[1:08:56]
on the high end. And when you add the
[1:09:00]
existing annual costs of uh the town's
[1:09:03]
CIP needs, which are a range of $1
[1:09:07]
million to $ 1.5 million, you get a
[1:09:09]
total annual burden of about uh $2.7
[1:09:14]
million to $3.4 million.
[1:09:18]
Um, and that represents approximately
[1:09:21]
24 to 30% of your general fund revenues
[1:09:26]
each year, which is a a quite a big
[1:09:30]
amount.
[1:09:32]
um and and one that you you couldn't
[1:09:35]
really feasibly um uh um enter in at
[1:09:40]
this stage based on your your current um
[1:09:45]
condition of your or based on your
[1:09:47]
current levels of of your general fund
[1:09:49]
revenues.
[1:09:54]
Okay, the next slide looks at the the
[1:09:58]
fourth financial burden and it's a a
[1:10:01]
bigger number because of the annual
[1:10:05]
operating costs required to to run the four initiative projects. Um
[1:10:13]
we took a look at the the fourth uh bond
[1:10:16]
debt service related to the the cost for
[1:10:19]
that initiative and that is uh $17.6 $6
[1:10:23]
million. Uh the annual debt service
[1:10:26]
related to that is about $1.1 million.
[1:10:29]
When you add the estimated annual
[1:10:32]
operations cost of $3.4 million and $5
[1:10:36]
million as well as the the city or
[1:10:39]
excuse me the town's ongoing capital
[1:10:42]
needs of $1 to $1.5 million, we get a
[1:10:45]
total annual burden of uh $5.5 million
[1:10:49]
to $7.6 $6 million and the uh ratio to
[1:10:55]
the town's annual revenues is is much
[1:10:58]
greater between 49% to 68% and that is
[1:11:03]
just uh isn't financial financially
[1:11:06]
feasible to do that. So, um, one note I
[1:11:09]
did want to make is that the the fourth,
[1:11:12]
uh, preliminary cost estimates, um,
[1:11:14]
doesn't include the
[1:11:16]
doesn't, uh, include all of the needed
[1:11:19]
facility master plan elements from
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I just wanted to provide that
[1:11:26]
clarification.
[1:11:26]
>> If I might just clarify, so that what
[1:11:29]
she's saying is that that is based on
[1:11:31]
for's uh,
[1:11:34]
presentation that they meet made to
[1:11:36]
council on January 8th. So that $17.6
[1:11:40]
million number is the number that FORF
[1:11:44]
came up with and presented to the
[1:11:46]
council and their plan. Um it does not
[1:11:51]
include all the elements that the the
[1:11:56]
council's the council adopted facility
[1:11:58]
master plan for example. It doesn't
[1:12:00]
include um the our public works and our um storage yard for the um a secure
[1:12:07]
yard for the police cars, etc. And um so
[1:12:11]
that's we just wanted to make sure that that's where that $17 million
[1:12:15]
number is coming from. Thank you.
[1:12:20]
And for uh illustrative purposes, we
[1:12:23]
wanted to combine both plans, the
[1:12:26]
facilities master plans as well as the fourth initiative.
[1:12:31]
And the total annual costs of of those
[1:12:35]
plans, including the the town's existing
[1:12:39]
capital needs, uh ranges between $7.2
[1:12:41]
million to $9.5 million. and that
[1:12:44]
represents approximately 64 to 85%
[1:12:48]
of the town's revenues. And and uh so
[1:12:54]
you know in in all of these scenarios t
[1:12:57]
taking on um these obligations without
[1:13:02]
uh raising new revenues is just isn't
[1:13:05]
financially feasible for the town.
[1:13:09]
>> I was just going to check. So the fourth
[1:13:12]
is the annual operations which would
[1:13:14]
include staffing but if staffing if the
[1:13:17]
cost of staffing would go up between six
[1:13:20]
and 10% every year
[1:13:22]
ongoing
[1:13:24]
so that number will get higher and
[1:13:26]
higher over time
[1:13:28]
>> right
[1:13:28]
>> okay
[1:13:33]
I just have a question do any other
[1:13:35]
towns or cities have this kind of burden
[1:13:40]
64 to 85%.
[1:13:42]
>> No, no, you you wouldn't be able to go
[1:13:44]
out into the market with that type of
[1:13:46]
burden.
[1:13:47]
>> Okay.
[1:13:48]
>> Thanks. and
[1:13:50]
>> and and just to clarify, so the SMB
[1:13:53]
guideline
[1:13:56]
says that um towns and cities should not
[1:14:01]
spend more than 6 to 8% of their annual
[1:14:07]
revenue on debt service. Correct.
[1:14:11]
>> Right. So this when it the the low is
[1:14:16]
not 6 to 8% it's 64%. And the red one is
[1:14:21]
not 6 to 8% it's 85%. Is that
[1:14:25]
>> that's correct?
[1:14:25]
>> Is that correct? Yeah.
[1:14:26]
>> So it's 10 times the S&P guideline.
[1:14:30]
>> Right. and and it it we need the revenue
[1:14:34]
to cover
[1:14:36]
all of your expenses to provide services
[1:14:39]
to the community such as law
[1:14:40]
enforcement, such as the fire
[1:14:42]
department, such as planning and
[1:14:44]
building and public works.
[1:14:47]
>> Could I ask a question?
[1:14:50]
>> Look at the same slide. Um the first
[1:14:54]
line item FMP bond debt service that's
[1:14:58]
the facilities existing facilities
[1:15:01]
master plan concept B
[1:15:03]
>> that we're talking about and then the
[1:15:04]
next line fourth bond debt service that
[1:15:08]
would be their competing proposal but we
[1:15:11]
wouldn't do both of these right we do
[1:15:12]
one or the other I aren't we double
[1:15:15]
counting that's my concern
[1:15:19]
>> go ahead David
[1:15:20]
>> thank you council member Kerscher for
[1:15:22]
your question and and I think we we
[1:15:24]
wanted to note that that this is really
[1:15:26]
for illustrative comparison purposes. Um
[1:15:30]
the the difficulty is as was stated
[1:15:33]
earlier in the presentation that the the
[1:15:35]
fourth initiative does not cover all of
[1:15:37]
the facilities
[1:15:39]
uh uh all the elements of the facilities
[1:15:42]
master plan. So there's uh there's
[1:15:46]
definitely some overlap, but you you
[1:15:48]
know that would that ultimately need to
[1:15:51]
uh do some additional scenario planning
[1:15:53]
to pull out what items are in the
[1:15:56]
facility master plan which aren't in the
[1:15:58]
fourth initiative. And as as as uh the
[1:16:01]
town manager uh opined earlier, some of
[1:16:04]
those items include uh of course public
[1:16:07]
works, uh the new admin facility, the
[1:16:10]
police storage yard, the public works
[1:16:12]
storage yard. So uh you know, again,
[1:16:15]
this is just to illustrate if council
[1:16:18]
desired to fund all of those elements,
[1:16:21]
uh what that would look like in terms of
[1:16:24]
a burden to your general fund. So there
[1:16:26]
so really the the if if you want to say
[1:16:29]
um double counting would be um the the
[1:16:33]
there's a a fire facility and there's uh
[1:16:38]
potential
[1:16:40]
opportunity to house the paramedics in
[1:16:43]
that fire facility that the cost of the
[1:16:45]
paramedics is also included in the
[1:16:47]
facility master plan. But other than
[1:16:49]
that there's really not a whole lot of overlap currently.
[1:16:56]
It just seems as this is on the high
[1:16:57]
side because of of that. I think you you could take the fourth cost their
[1:17:04]
projection and add something to it for
[1:17:08]
the public service I mean the public
[1:17:10]
works yard for example or secured
[1:17:13]
parking or anything that they haven't
[1:17:15]
covered. remember they had a a fairly
[1:17:18]
specific proposal for rehabbing
[1:17:21]
rebuilding the um the existing uh public
[1:17:26]
safety building and then they had and they came up with I forgotten it $11
[1:17:31]
million or something like that and then
[1:17:33]
they had just a kind of a catchall
[1:17:35]
saying well perhaps another 7 million
[1:17:37]
for the administrative buildings and
[1:17:39]
then during our discussion it turned out
[1:17:41]
they had not really taken into account
[1:17:43]
things like the uh public works um uh
[1:17:46]
yard and so forth. So obviously that's a very general number and would
[1:17:51]
have to be threshed out. But just the
[1:17:54]
same I I you know I'm a a little
[1:17:57]
concerned about these bottom line
[1:17:58]
numbers of 7 million to 9.5 million. I I
[1:18:02]
do think there's enough of an overlap
[1:18:03]
that it would it would not really be 7.5
[1:18:06]
million
[1:18:10]
» through the mayor. May I um I'd just
[1:18:12]
like to direct um
[1:18:15]
remind the council that um staff did
[1:18:17]
prepare a memo in the end of February. I
[1:18:21]
think we published it on February 26th,
[1:18:23]
27th where we um evaluated the fourth
[1:18:29]
uh proposal and um compared it to the
[1:18:34]
facilities master plan and came up with
[1:18:37]
some things that it because it's not
[1:18:39]
just as it's not just that it doesn't
[1:18:41]
include elements that the facility
[1:18:43]
master plan does. Our staff team, which
[1:18:47]
includes um our consultant team, also
[1:18:51]
had concerns that were identified and um
[1:18:54]
and findings that were identified in
[1:18:57]
that memorandum that also talked about
[1:19:00]
um the uh forest forest proposal and it how well or how really rather how it
[1:19:08]
doesn't um um it doesn't take care of
[1:19:12]
any flooding take care of the flooding
[1:19:14]
issues as much as it needs. to so there
[1:19:17]
are other um deficiencies in that plan
[1:19:21]
from staff and consultants perspective
[1:19:24]
that um it does make it difficult to to
[1:19:28]
come up with something you can't it's
[1:19:30]
not we can't really compare apples to
[1:19:32]
apples but I I just think that the
[1:19:34]
takeaway of this initial part of the
[1:19:36]
presentation is just that we don't have
[1:19:40]
um we just do not we don't have funding
[1:19:43]
in the budget to be able able to take on
[1:19:47]
very much debt ourselves. You need to go
[1:19:49]
to the voters and and I don't think
[1:19:50]
that's a surprise to to everyone, but I wanted to make sure that our
[1:19:56]
professional consultants
[1:19:58]
took a look at that and confirmed what
[1:20:02]
staff has been reporting out to the
[1:20:04]
council on that matter.
[1:20:07]
>> Thank you. I have a question.
[1:20:10]
Aren't we doing this like a month or two
[1:20:12]
early? Because we're talking about the
[1:20:14]
fourth plan, but we have a committee
[1:20:16]
that's working right now to try to
[1:20:18]
reconcile plan B and the fourth plan.
[1:20:21]
So, why aren't we looking at this after
[1:20:24]
April 29 when we hear what that plan is
[1:20:27]
and if the council approves it? It it
[1:20:30]
seems premature to be going through. I
[1:20:33]
understand that the debt burden that's
[1:20:34]
important but comparing for to plan B to
[1:20:38]
me that seems premature because it there
[1:20:40]
may be changes next month or late at the
[1:20:42]
end of this month and I think that's
[1:20:44]
what we really want to be focusing on.
[1:20:50]
» Um thank you Mayor Prom Robbins. Um you
[1:20:54]
know I I was charged with implementing
[1:20:57]
concept B and moving this forward. The
[1:21:00]
item before you tonight is not an action
[1:21:03]
item. It's simply it's a presentation.
[1:21:05]
It's to start to make sure that the
[1:21:07]
council has a foundation on financing options. And we we haven't
[1:21:13]
gotten to the primer part of this uh
[1:21:16]
presentation, but it's it's to start
[1:21:19]
this conversation. And one of the
[1:21:22]
reasons I really wanted to bring forward
[1:21:24]
this initial step so that the council
[1:21:26]
could receive some education would have
[1:21:29]
an opportunity to ask questions like
[1:21:30]
you're doing tonight would have the
[1:21:32]
opportunity for ask for more information
[1:21:35]
so that we are prepared to come back to
[1:21:38]
you to provide the information that
[1:21:41]
you're looking for because uh I don't I
[1:21:44]
don't know what's going on with with the
[1:21:47]
committee. I don't know what they're
[1:21:49]
going what recommendations they're going
[1:21:51]
to give. Um, however, if this has
[1:21:54]
anything to do with um putting something
[1:21:58]
on the ballot this November, the council
[1:22:02]
is going to be under an extremely tight
[1:22:04]
timeline. So, I wanted the council and
[1:22:07]
the community and frankly staff, we all
[1:22:09]
need to be learning about this. I wanted
[1:22:11]
us to all have an opportunity to to to
[1:22:14]
start asking questions to start
[1:22:16]
receiving the information and I wanted
[1:22:18]
you to have that information before the
[1:22:20]
committee comes forward because they I
[1:22:23]
don't know for sure but they might have
[1:22:25]
recommendations about um different kinds
[1:22:27]
of debt financing and I wanted the
[1:22:29]
council to be able to already be
[1:22:32]
informed. So that simply is it's nothing
[1:22:34]
nefarious. It's nothing. It's just
[1:22:37]
simply uh I want to give the the council
[1:22:40]
uh good information before you start.
[1:22:42]
So, we'll definitely, you know, if the
[1:22:44]
council wants to move forward with this
[1:22:46]
conser conversation, we'll be coming
[1:22:49]
back and providing more information
[1:22:51]
tailored to both what the town what the
[1:22:53]
council wants.
[1:22:55]
I was going to say I think Elizabeth too
[1:22:58]
this may be very useful information for
[1:23:00]
that citizens committee as they're
[1:23:02]
working to understand these costs.
[1:23:19]
Uh we ran a few stress tests on the uh
[1:23:24]
town's property tax revenue because that
[1:23:26]
is the the biggest driver of the the
[1:23:29]
town's annual revenues. And um as we
[1:23:34]
discussed earlier, it's about uh 85% of
[1:23:37]
the property tax revenues come um or or
[1:23:41]
the revenues come from property tax
[1:23:42]
revenues. And um we ran three scenarios.
[1:23:46]
So the first we called the best case
[1:23:48]
scenario that assumes a revenue growth
[1:23:51]
of 4% in each year. The the second
[1:23:55]
scenario we ran assumed a revenue growth
[1:23:59]
of 3% in each year. And the third
[1:24:03]
scenario uh we called the the downside
[1:24:05]
case. Uh we assumed property growth of
[1:24:08]
1% in each year. And um it's kind of
[1:24:13]
hard to see in that top graph there, but
[1:24:16]
the uh total expenditures growing six to
[1:24:20]
10% over the the next five years. Um the
[1:24:26]
and the gap between the the three stress
[1:24:29]
test scenarios. You can see that that
[1:24:31]
gap uh slowly declines over time. And
[1:24:36]
under the um uh 2% the the downside case
[1:24:41]
scenario you can see that uh there are
[1:24:44]
no surplus revenues in that final year.
[1:24:48]
And uh these 1% swings in assessed value
[1:24:51]
great assessed valuation growth are are
[1:24:54]
not big swings but they do have a a very
[1:24:57]
big impact on the the town's um um
[1:25:01]
budget o over the next five years. And
[1:25:04]
you know, we we all know it's all market
[1:25:05]
dependent and it's really out of the
[1:25:09]
town's uh control on how um this source
[1:25:13]
of revenues are uh fair over the next
[1:25:16]
five years. So, uh, we just wanted to
[1:25:19]
illustrate,
[1:25:20]
um, that, um, you know, these, uh,
[1:25:25]
assumptions over time will eat into your
[1:25:29]
revenues and if you take on debt
[1:25:30]
without,
[1:25:32]
um, approving new tax revenues that your
[1:25:36]
ability to repay debt u
[1:25:40]
diminishes as well. So,
[1:25:43]
any questions on that? No. Okay. With
[1:25:46]
that, I'll turn it over to Dan.
[1:25:49]
>> Hi. Hi. So,
[1:25:51]
with our analysis showing that a tu is
[1:25:55]
new debt would likely need new revenue
[1:25:56]
streams, I'd like to just go over what
[1:25:58]
those are. Um, just as an educational
[1:26:01]
starting point for everybody.
[1:26:03]
There are four main options for a town
[1:26:05]
like Ross to generate additional sources
[1:26:07]
of revenue. The first option is an
[1:26:09]
adorum general obligation bond measure
[1:26:12]
which taxes property based on assessed
[1:26:14]
value. This requires 2/3 voter approval
[1:26:17]
and can only fund capital, not
[1:26:19]
operations.
[1:26:20]
Next, a parcel tax is a flat fee per
[1:26:23]
parcel. You guys are familiar with this
[1:26:25]
with measure E. Um, it also requires a
[1:26:29]
2/3 approval. It can fund operations,
[1:26:32]
capital, or debt service.
[1:26:35]
Our third option is a CFD or melus tax.
[1:26:39]
And unlike a flat parcel tax, a CFD
[1:26:42]
special tax can be structured by square
[1:26:43]
footage or land use. It can fund both
[1:26:46]
capital and ongoing services. And CFDs,
[1:26:49]
they can be complex to administer and
[1:26:51]
they do require twothirds voter approval
[1:26:53]
as well.
[1:26:55]
Our our fourth revenue option is the
[1:26:57]
real property transfer tax. It applies
[1:27:00]
at the time of sale of a property. It
[1:27:02]
only requires a simple majority, not
[1:27:04]
that 2/3 that these other three options
[1:27:06]
require, but it's very volatile
[1:27:08]
depending on how many homes are sold
[1:27:10]
that year. Um, another caveat is Ross
[1:27:13]
would actually need to become a charter
[1:27:14]
city temporarily in order to raise that
[1:27:17]
uh tax rate above the default state.
[1:27:23]
» Yeah. on the um on the becoming a
[1:27:26]
charter town. Um is there something on
[1:27:30]
the fall ballot that is going to
[1:27:32]
preclude potentially towns converting
[1:27:35]
into charter towns?
[1:27:36]
>> Uh potentially. Yes, that could be. Mhm.
[1:27:40]
And our next slide will will kind of
[1:27:43]
show because that real property transfer
[1:27:45]
tax is so volatile, it's very hard to
[1:27:47]
bond against and it's probably the least
[1:27:51]
suitable option.
[1:27:53]
I know Belvadier tried to do that a few
[1:27:55]
years ago and was unsuccessful even
[1:27:57]
though it only required a 50% 50.1%
[1:28:00]
majority.
[1:28:02]
May May I just um to clarify the the
[1:28:06]
item that is I think it just qualified
[1:28:08]
for the fall ballot statewide ballot.
[1:28:11]
It's for um it would preclude cities
[1:28:14]
from becoming charter cities for that
[1:28:16]
purpose. The purpose of increasing their
[1:28:19]
real estate transfer, not preclude
[1:28:21]
cities from just becoming charter
[1:28:23]
cities. It's just for that purpose.
[1:28:27]
But why would we want to be a charter
[1:28:29]
city if it's not to
[1:28:32]
add this tax?
[1:28:34]
>> I'd defer to the um town attorney for
[1:28:36]
that.
[1:28:38]
There's a lot of reasons why some cities
[1:28:39]
become charter cities, but I think
[1:28:41]
that's beyond the breadth of what we're
[1:28:42]
talking about tonight. I think they're
[1:28:44]
presenting it as an option for this tax
[1:28:47]
and I just want to correct something.
[1:28:49]
Once you become a charter city, you are
[1:28:50]
a charter city. It's not for a limited
[1:28:52]
time. You know, the voters would have to
[1:28:55]
take away the charter at some point in
[1:28:56]
the future.
[1:29:00]
Um, just a question about the the CFD
[1:29:03]
flexible tax based on square foot of the
[1:29:07]
piece of property or the building on the
[1:29:10]
property or
[1:29:11]
>> there's a lot of flexibility there, but
[1:29:12]
it's typically the property the um
[1:29:16]
>> the square footage of the of the
[1:29:17]
building.
[1:29:18]
>> Yeah.
[1:29:18]
>> And the land use this
[1:29:20]
>> land use whether it's commercial, ret,
[1:29:22]
residential.
[1:29:23]
>> Okay.
[1:29:23]
>> Developed, undeveloped,
[1:29:25]
>> and acreage would be about the same.
[1:29:26]
It's like the square footage. Okay,
[1:29:29]
great. Thank you.
[1:29:30]
>> Yeah.
[1:29:33]
» All right. This table here summarizes
[1:29:35]
the differences between these four
[1:29:36]
options. Um, I'll point out a few
[1:29:38]
things. The GEO bonds are the only
[1:29:41]
option that can't fund operations or pay
[1:29:43]
as you go capital. They are strictly for
[1:29:45]
backing long long-term debt. Um, every
[1:29:48]
other option has a little bit more
[1:29:50]
flexibility when it comes to how the
[1:29:51]
money is used, how the revenues are
[1:29:52]
used.
[1:29:54]
Three out of the four options require
[1:29:56]
twothirds voter approval. The transfer
[1:29:58]
tax is the only exception needing just
[1:30:00]
that simple majority. But as we noted is
[1:30:02]
extremely volatile and market dependent
[1:30:05]
which makes it a um worse choice for the
[1:30:07]
primary funding source for a long-term
[1:30:10]
bond.
[1:30:12]
Uh revenue stability matters a lot when
[1:30:14]
you're pledging it to debt service. You
[1:30:15]
need predictable cash flows to make bond
[1:30:17]
payments that favors parcel taxes, CFD
[1:30:20]
taxes, and the geo bond levy.
[1:30:28]
All right, after going over those
[1:30:29]
revenue sources, I want to give a little
[1:30:31]
basic overview of municipal bonds.
[1:30:33]
are how local
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governments borrow money to fund public
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projects. You, the town, issue the bonds
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and investors provide the cash up front
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and then you repay principal plus
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interest over the next 20 to 30 years or
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however long the term is of the bond
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issuance.
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The interest earned for municipal bonds
[1:30:52]
is typically exempt from federal and
[1:30:53]
state income taxes which allows
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investors to accept a lower interest
[1:30:57]
rate which means cheaper borrowing for
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the town. How bonds are repaid depends
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on the type. General obligation bonds
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are repaid through that advalorum
[1:31:07]
property tax levy we discussed. Lease
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revenue bonds or certificates of
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participation are repaid from the town's
[1:31:14]
general fund. Um that's when we started
[1:31:17]
this presentation, those were
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leasebacked um either COP or a lease
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revenue bond. Um so they're an
[1:31:24]
obligation of the town's general fund.
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And then CFD or special tax bonds are
[1:31:29]
also known as mealus bonds. They are
[1:31:31]
repaid through that special tax on
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properties within a a specific district
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a within that CFD.
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Uh lastly, I just want to say municipal
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bonds often require voter approval. Uh
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with most local bonds in California
[1:31:44]
requiring twothirds. The key exception
[1:31:46]
is leaseback financings, which are lease
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revenue bonds and certificates of
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participation. They do not require voter
[1:31:52]
approval, but those, like I said, do
[1:31:54]
create an obligation of the town's
[1:31:56]
general fund.
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So, California's Constitution,
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specifically article 16, uh, section 18,
[1:32:07]
sets the framework for local government
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debt. The general rule is 2/3s voter
[1:32:12]
approval for cities and towns before
[1:32:13]
taking on the long-term debt. But there
[1:32:15]
are the three recognized exceptions. Uh,
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the first one we've talked about, it's
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the lease financings that are backed by
[1:32:21]
the general fund. That's the first
[1:32:23]
exception. The next two exceptions are
[1:32:26]
not very applicable to the town. Um the
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first one being enterprise revenue bonds
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which are repaid from utility revenues
[1:32:32]
um not the general fund and then the
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third exception being court-ordered
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obligations. These are involuntary
[1:32:39]
court-ordered obligations such as
[1:32:40]
pension obligation bonds. Um I just want
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to point out one nuance. Special
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districts like CFDs operate under
[1:32:48]
different rules and have more
[1:32:49]
flexibility than cities and counties
[1:32:51]
under article 16.
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Could
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you just explain again what is lease
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financing?
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>> Lease financing. So lease financing,
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there's two main bond types that fit
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under lease financing. It's a uh lease
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revenue bond or a certificate of
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participation. They are structured a
[1:33:13]
little bit legally, but the way the debt
[1:33:14]
is repaid is very they're very similar.
[1:33:17]
Um, essentially the when the they're
[1:33:21]
with lease revenue bonds and coops, uh,
[1:33:23]
the issuer has to put up collateral,
[1:33:26]
real property as collateral and then the
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repayments are paid from the town's
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general fund.
[1:33:34]
>> Those were the first few slides that you
[1:33:36]
were covering.
[1:33:36]
>> Exactly. Yep. And what we've seen is
[1:33:39]
that it would e there's too much um the debt service would be too high, be
[1:33:44]
too much of a burden on the general fund
[1:33:45]
of the town without an additional
[1:33:47]
revenue source. One of the options I'm
[1:33:49]
going to go through general obligation
[1:33:50]
bonds first. When we discuss lease
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revenue bond options for the town, we're
[1:33:54]
assuming a parcel tax gets approved to
[1:33:58]
repay the general obligate the lease
[1:34:00]
revenue bond.
[1:34:02]
And we'll get to that.
[1:34:11]
So the uh first option I wanted to show
[1:34:13]
is the general obligation bonds. They
[1:34:15]
are the lowest cost borrowing tool
[1:34:17]
available to the town. They're backed by
[1:34:19]
an unlimited property tax pledge. So
[1:34:21]
investors find them to be the highest
[1:34:24]
level um of security. They have the
[1:34:26]
highest confidence with them and that
[1:34:27]
translates into the lowest um interest
[1:34:29]
rate and a lower borrowing cost for the
[1:34:31]
town.
[1:34:33]
The trade-off with general obligation
[1:34:34]
bonds, you need twothirds voter approval
[1:34:36]
and the proceeds can only go towards
[1:34:38]
capital improvements, not operations.
[1:34:42]
One thing worth noting um on equity
[1:34:45]
because geo bonds, the taxes scale with
[1:34:48]
assessed value and with Prop 13, meaning
[1:34:51]
similar homes can have completely
[1:34:52]
different um assessed values depending
[1:34:54]
on when they were purchased. Uh
[1:34:55]
neighbors can end up paying very
[1:34:57]
different amounts for the same bond
[1:34:59]
measure.
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So, our our chart on the right here um
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shows a few options with a geo bond
[1:35:07]
issuance. If the town were to issue a
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$10 million, $20 million, and $30
[1:35:12]
million geo bond,
[1:35:14]
we've uh found that a $10 million geo
[1:35:18]
bond issuance would require a tax rate
[1:35:20]
of $20 per assessed per $100,000 of
[1:35:23]
assessed value in order to cover the
[1:35:25]
debt service on the bonds. Um, just for
[1:35:28]
an example, we we found that if a home
[1:35:30]
was $2 million or had an assessed value
[1:35:32]
of $2 million, that levy would be
[1:35:34]
approximately $400 in year one.
[1:35:38]
A $20 million bond would double that tax
[1:35:41]
rate to $40 per $100,000 of assessed
[1:35:43]
value, which would be a levy of $800 for
[1:35:46]
a $2 million home. And then a $30
[1:35:49]
million bond sale would be a tax rate of
[1:35:52]
$60 per 100k of assessed value resulting
[1:35:54]
in about $1,200 for a $2 million home.
[1:35:58]
Any I'll pause here for any questions
[1:36:01]
because that was a lot of information.
[1:36:03]
>> I have a question on your 4.75 interest
[1:36:06]
rate. What is that? The current interest
[1:36:07]
rate?
[1:36:08]
>> It's there's a little bit of room in
[1:36:10]
there, a little bit of just protection
[1:36:12]
in case the markets move. Um,
[1:36:15]
so I
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>> I would say a 30-year geo bond now is
[1:36:19]
about four and a half percent. You would
[1:36:21]
be a very highly rated uh town. And so
[1:36:25]
about four and a half% would be
[1:36:28]
>> um the current levels.
[1:36:30]
>> And what do you think it'll be in
[1:36:31]
November?
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» The joke I always hear is if we knew
[1:36:36]
where rates would be, we wouldn't be
[1:36:37]
working. So yeah.
[1:36:40]
>> Yeah. And if you can price before then
[1:36:42]
you you should
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» and Oh yeah go ahead.
[1:36:47]
>> So this is just for capital improvements
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only not ongoing.
[1:36:51]
>> Correct. Yes.
[1:36:52]
>> And it would be for how many years?
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>> Um typically the max term is 30 years.
[1:36:57]
>> Okay. So every year a property owner
[1:37:01]
would have to pay if it was a $10
[1:37:04]
million it would be 402 for 30 years.
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402.
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Uh, yes. If they had a $2 million home,
[1:37:13]
>> if they had a $2 million
[1:37:14]
>> Yes. With with There's one thing here
[1:37:16]
and Yeah. With these bonds, we have
[1:37:18]
level debt service and assuming assessed
[1:37:21]
values go up each year, which they
[1:37:23]
typically do around 3 to 4%. The tax
[1:37:25]
rate would actually drop down. It would
[1:37:27]
get lower as time goes on because
[1:37:29]
everyone's assessed value is higher.
[1:37:31]
They need to tax each one less to cover
[1:37:33]
the debt service.
[1:37:34]
>> Got it. Does that mean that the term is
[1:37:37]
reduced or does that mean that our tax
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the amount on our tax
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>> the amount on the tax bill would go
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down?
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>> Huh, that's interesting.
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>> I've never seen that happen.
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>> A lot of the times with the the school
[1:37:49]
district geo bonds, they will escalate
[1:37:52]
debt service to match the assumed growth
[1:37:55]
in assessed values. So that's why you
[1:37:57]
see your the your tax bill for school
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bonds kind of stay constant
[1:38:02]
>> and the the town would not have the same
[1:38:04]
tax rate constraints like the the the
[1:38:06]
local school district does. The school
[1:38:08]
district is falls under proposition 55
[1:38:12]
where they're limited by their tax rate.
[1:38:15]
Um, I think the school district is
[1:38:17]
limited to$25 or $30 per $100,000 of AV,
[1:38:22]
but but the town would have greater
[1:38:24]
flexibility.
[1:38:29]
» All right.
[1:38:31]
We'll move into the the
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leasebacked financings, which are lease
[1:38:34]
revenue bonds or certificates of
[1:38:36]
participation.
[1:38:37]
Um, they are general fundbacked
[1:38:39]
obligations that don't require voter
[1:38:41]
approval. uh that what happens is the
[1:38:43]
town pledges an essential facility as
[1:38:45]
security that can be existing or one
[1:38:47]
that's uh a new a new building and then
[1:38:50]
a JPA or nonprofit issues the bonds on
[1:38:52]
the town's behalf. The town makes annual
[1:38:54]
lease payments to pay the debt service
[1:38:56]
on the bonds.
[1:38:58]
The advantages are speed and simplicity
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basically with there being no ballot
[1:39:02]
measure. Um so sometimes the financing
[1:39:04]
can take only 3 to four months. The
[1:39:06]
structure is widely used and well
[1:39:08]
understood by the market. It's very
[1:39:09]
common. The limitation with this option
[1:39:12]
is that it creates a general fund
[1:39:13]
obligation and from our present you know
[1:39:15]
previous presentation that is an issue
[1:39:17]
for the town. Um so for
[1:39:22]
yeah
[1:39:26]
so while the uh lease revenue bonds
[1:39:27]
would still be a general fund
[1:39:28]
obligation. Okay sorry I lost myself. Um
[1:39:31]
as so the for our modeling for this
[1:39:34]
option we've assumed that the town
[1:39:36]
adopts a parcel tax similar to measure
[1:39:38]
E. um that that money flows and repays
[1:39:42]
the debt service. So the parcel tax
[1:39:44]
money would flow into the general fund
[1:39:46]
to pay the debt service on the coops or
[1:39:48]
lease revenue bonds. So it's still a
[1:39:50]
general fund obligation. There's just a
[1:39:52]
new revenue stream that helps pay it.
[1:39:56]
The uh the table on the right shows the
[1:39:58]
same 10 million, 20 million, and $30
[1:40:00]
million scenario for the structure.
[1:40:03]
And what we've come up with is in order
[1:40:05]
to generate enough revenue to cover the
[1:40:07]
cost of a $10 million lease revenue
[1:40:10]
bond, the town would need a parcel tax
[1:40:12]
of about $777
[1:40:14]
per parcel.
[1:40:16]
If we were to up that to a $20 million
[1:40:18]
issuance, we would it would require a
[1:40:21]
parcel tax of about $1,500 per parcel.
[1:40:24]
And a $30 million issuance would require
[1:40:26]
a parcel tax of about $2,300 per parcel.
[1:40:30]
Um, this table also kind of adds in uh
[1:40:33]
what the parcel tax would be when
[1:40:35]
combined with measure E. Uh, with it
[1:40:37]
being about just under 2,000 per parcel
[1:40:39]
on the $10 million option and rising up
[1:40:42]
to $3500 on the $30 million option,
[1:40:45]
>> that would require voter approval.
[1:40:47]
>> Correct. Correct. So, these these pro
[1:40:50]
these benefits of lease revenue bonds is
[1:40:52]
that it's speedy and doesn't require
[1:40:54]
voter approval. However, for the town to
[1:40:56]
be able to do it, they would need voter
[1:40:57]
approval on the parcel tax to repay it.
[1:41:02]
>> So, a question. So, a very small parcel
[1:41:05]
would be paying say for $10 million
[1:41:09]
uh
[1:41:11]
190 90,000 and a very huge piece of
[1:41:16]
property with tennis courts, the
[1:41:17]
swimming pool, and everything else,
[1:41:19]
they'd be paying the same amount.
[1:41:20]
>> Exactly.
[1:41:21]
>> So, there's an equity issue.
[1:41:22]
>> There's an equity issue as well with the
[1:41:23]
parcel tax. Yep. Mhm.
[1:41:27]
Any any other questions on
[1:41:28]
>> And this is also for just capital or is
[1:41:30]
this capital plus
[1:41:31]
>> the the parcel tax money can fund
[1:41:33]
capital and operating? Yep.
[1:41:36]
>> Mhm.
[1:41:37]
>> I I just also wanted to point out that
[1:41:40]
uh
[1:41:42]
a parcel tax is a general tax. You can't
[1:41:44]
uh pledge that directly to the payment
[1:41:47]
of your lease revenue bonds. What is
[1:41:49]
pledged is the the town's general fund.
[1:41:51]
So all legally available funds of the
[1:41:54]
general fund would repay the the annual
[1:41:56]
debt service payments.
[1:42:04]
» All right. The last form of municipal
[1:42:05]
bond um that we will go over is a CFD.
[1:42:09]
It's called a special tax bond, also
[1:42:11]
known as a melerus bond. Um they are the
[1:42:14]
most flexible in terms of what you can
[1:42:16]
fund. Um unlike geo bonds, they can fund
[1:42:19]
both capital facilities and ongoing
[1:42:21]
services. The tax structure is
[1:42:24]
customizable a lot more so than a parcel
[1:42:26]
tax. Uh you can base it on square
[1:42:27]
footage, land use, acreage, and other
[1:42:29]
characteristics. Um it can be phased in
[1:42:32]
over time.
[1:42:34]
Some trade-offs with CFDs, uh they carry
[1:42:36]
a lower quality rating than go bonds, so
[1:42:39]
the borrowing costs are often a bit
[1:42:41]
higher, so higher interest rates uh when
[1:42:43]
the bonds are sold. The setup is a bit
[1:42:45]
more complex with the CFD formation. And
[1:42:47]
then you also need that 2/3 voter
[1:42:49]
approval from those within the CFD.
[1:42:54]
Our table on the right here shows the
[1:42:55]
melus tax for our three bond sizing
[1:42:58]
options. For this preliminary analysis,
[1:43:00]
we've assumed the melus tax is flat fee,
[1:43:03]
a flat fee per parcel. Um, however, as
[1:43:06]
we discussed, the town could really
[1:43:07]
structure that any way as they that they
[1:43:08]
please.
[1:43:10]
And our analysis shows that a $10
[1:43:12]
million melarus bond would cost roughly
[1:43:14]
$751 per parcel in year one. A $20
[1:43:18]
million bond would result in a $1,400
[1:43:20]
levy per parcel in year one. And a $30
[1:43:23]
million bond would result in a
[1:43:25]
$2,100,000
[1:43:27]
levy percel in year one.
[1:43:34]
Any any questions on the Melus tax?
[1:43:44]
All right. So, this table is a quick
[1:43:45]
reference to compare the three financing
[1:43:48]
vehicles that we just discussed. Um, if
[1:43:51]
your top priority is the lowest
[1:43:52]
borrowing cost and you have the voter
[1:43:53]
appetite for two-thirds approval, a geo
[1:43:55]
bond is a is a really strong candidate
[1:43:57]
for a capital pro for funding a capital
[1:43:59]
project. Uh while lease revenue bonds
[1:44:02]
don't require voter approval, uh they
[1:44:04]
create a general fund obligation that
[1:44:05]
the current budget can't easily absorb
[1:44:07]
without a new revenue stream.
[1:44:10]
And then a which would require likely a
[1:44:12]
parcel tax to be approved. And then
[1:44:14]
lastly, if you need to fund both capital
[1:44:16]
and ongoing operations from a single
[1:44:18]
financing structure and you're willing
[1:44:19]
to run a more complex administration
[1:44:21]
process, a CFD is definitely worth
[1:44:24]
exploring.
[1:44:34]
So, I will uh wrap this up with a few
[1:44:36]
key takeaways. Uh as we've discussed,
[1:44:38]
the town h the town has limited
[1:44:40]
financial capacity to fund their desired
[1:44:42]
projects with 11.2 million in general
[1:44:44]
fund revenue and expenditures already
[1:44:46]
growing faster than re already growing
[1:44:48]
faster than revenues. There is no margin
[1:44:50]
to make to to take on meaningful debt
[1:44:52]
new debt service from the existing
[1:44:54]
budget. Issuing new debt would require a
[1:44:56]
new revenue source. Whether that's a geo
[1:44:58]
bond measure, a parcel tax, a CFD, or
[1:45:01]
some combination, you would need voter
[1:45:03]
approval for a new dedicated revenue
[1:45:05]
source before a debt financing becomes
[1:45:07]
viable. A general obligation bond would
[1:45:09]
provide the lowest borrowing cost, but
[1:45:11]
would not be able to fund operations. A
[1:45:13]
CFD special tax bond give the most
[1:45:15]
flexibility on how the tax is levied,
[1:45:17]
but can be complex to administer and
[1:45:19]
comes with a higher borrowing cost. And
[1:45:20]
lastly, a lease revenue bond would
[1:45:22]
likely require a parcel tax be approved
[1:45:24]
in order to provide revenue stream to
[1:45:25]
repay that debt service.
[1:45:27]
And with that, we are happy to take any
[1:45:29]
questions.
[1:45:33]
» More questions.
[1:45:35]
>> So, one could do a combination. A town
[1:45:38]
could do a combination. You could you've
[1:45:40]
got a capital that needs to be built.
[1:45:43]
So, you could do the geo bond and then
[1:45:47]
you've got ongoing costs for people,
[1:45:51]
staffing,
[1:45:53]
um, equipment. So that might be a
[1:45:56]
different uh parcel tax or something
[1:45:59]
else.
[1:46:00]
>> Uh that's correct. Yep. You could do a a
[1:46:02]
mixture of these three of these four
[1:46:04]
different revenue sources. Well, three
[1:46:05]
that are good good options for the town,
[1:46:07]
>> right? But the the homeowner is going to
[1:46:09]
have to end up being paying for
[1:46:12]
both.
[1:46:13]
>> Mhm. That's correct.
[1:46:15]
>> There's no free lunch.
[1:46:17]
>> Yeah.
[1:46:19]
>> Okay. Thank you. Um any other questions?
[1:46:22]
Council
[1:46:23]
public comment on this item.
[1:46:26]
Mr. Rosenbomb,
[1:46:28]
>> just Michael Rosenbomb at 14 Madrona.
[1:46:31]
Just a quick question if the consultants
[1:46:34]
have considered the age of the people in
[1:46:36]
the parcels because there's the
[1:46:40]
um senior opt out of parcel tax and also
[1:46:44]
a I believe SSI and um also if depending
[1:46:49]
on your median income you can opt out.
[1:46:51]
So the amount of parcels in the Ross
[1:46:52]
will go down. So I do get a free lunch
[1:46:55]
potentially.
[1:46:57]
>> Ah,
[1:46:58]
>> you never know. I'm just So, but there
[1:46:59]
is a there is that and just whether
[1:47:01]
that's in your report or not or thought
[1:47:03]
about that there really aren't 835.
[1:47:06]
There may only be 800 to pay.
[1:47:11]
» The numbers that Dan presented were just
[1:47:13]
hypothetical
[1:47:15]
uh scenarios. Um to the extent that
[1:47:17]
there are parcels that are exempt, uh
[1:47:20]
that would increase the uh amount per parcel
[1:47:26]
>> and that would be something that the
[1:47:27]
council would decide if there was going
[1:47:29]
to be some kind of senior exemption,
[1:47:31]
something like that.
[1:47:31]
>> You would carve that out into the the
[1:47:34]
language, I believe. But
[1:47:35]
>> okay,
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any other public comment? Anybody
[1:47:39]
online?
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>> No one's online, Mayor.
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>> Okay. We'll bring it back for any
[1:47:45]
further thoughts or discussion.
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>> I think I need to spend some time
[1:47:50]
looking at this. I think it was very
[1:47:52]
helpful, the differences, uh the
[1:47:55]
options. Um so I appreciate this
[1:48:00]
information. It's really helpful and
[1:48:02]
giving us more information so we can
[1:48:04]
make a wise decision about moving
[1:48:07]
forward with the town.
[1:48:09]
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[1:48:11]
>> Thank you. Thank you.
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» Number 15, town council to receive an
[1:48:23]
update from staff regarding the status
[1:48:25]
of the implementation of the town of
[1:48:27]
Ross facilities master plan.
[1:48:30]
Manager Johnson.
[1:48:31]
>> Yeah. Thank you, Mayor and Council
[1:48:33]
members. Uh this evening we um we have
[1:48:37]
brought forward um your third report
[1:48:41]
regarding the status of the
[1:48:42]
implementation of the facilities master
[1:48:44]
brown. We uh brought forward one in
[1:48:47]
September and then our second in uh
[1:48:50]
December and uh David Kelly our pro
[1:48:54]
part-time project manager will be giving
[1:48:56]
the report. And
[1:48:59]
are you ready? I'm gonna do the handoff.
[1:49:04]
Take it away, David.
[1:49:11]
Thank you, manager, town manager
[1:49:13]
Johnson. Good, good, good evening, Mayor
[1:49:16]
McMillan,
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Mayor Prom Robbins, Council Members
[1:49:20]
Dalling and Kercher, and uh our esteemed
[1:49:23]
town attorney Benjamin. Uh I am David
[1:49:26]
Kelly. I'm your project manager. I'm
[1:49:28]
here uh for the third update on your
[1:49:31]
facilities master plan and to talk about
[1:49:33]
some of the progress that we've made uh
[1:49:36]
on the council's behalf. So the agenda
[1:49:38]
tonight is uh really to provide again an
[1:49:41]
update and uh discuss progress.
[1:49:45]
We will talk about the cost estimates
[1:49:47]
that were updated to reflect the cost of
[1:49:50]
implementing the uh facilities master
[1:49:52]
plan as well as the completed uh section
[1:49:56]
9212 fiscal impact study. Uh give you an
[1:50:00]
update on the two RFQS that council
[1:50:02]
approved both for affordable housing and
[1:50:05]
architectural and engineering services.
[1:50:07]
uh discuss real brief the uh selection
[1:50:10]
of the municipal adviser which you just
[1:50:11]
heard tonight give a presentation from
[1:50:13]
Phil Lap as well as uh a a minor update
[1:50:18]
on SQUA and the um current citizen
[1:50:22]
advisory committee evaluation.
[1:50:25]
So again, uh, as as I've, uh, updated
[1:50:29]
the council, we we prepared a roadmap at
[1:50:33]
the start of this process to really
[1:50:35]
guide the implementation of the
[1:50:38]
facilities master plan. It's, you know,
[1:50:40]
it's a a best practices tool and project
[1:50:42]
management to, uh, guide the timing and
[1:50:45]
delivery of a project. Uh, and
[1:50:48]
ultimately, it's a tool for
[1:50:49]
communicating implementation to the town
[1:50:51]
council as well as the town manager. uh
[1:50:55]
the the G the Gant chart that was
[1:50:57]
prepared uh it is intended to be
[1:51:00]
flexible and adaptable as conditions
[1:51:03]
change and certainly uh it the timelines
[1:51:06]
have been uh affected by the fourth
[1:51:08]
initiative.
[1:51:11]
So, one of the key updates was uh
[1:51:13]
updating the cost estimates that were
[1:51:15]
included in your facility's master plan,
[1:51:18]
particularly uh for concept B, but also
[1:51:21]
the paramedic facility. Uh both of those
[1:51:24]
uh cost estimates were completed in
[1:51:26]
December. The um uh cost estimates for
[1:51:30]
the paramedic facility was in uh updated
[1:51:32]
to inform the lease agreement with the
[1:51:35]
Ross Valley Paramedic Authority. And
[1:51:37]
then the cost estimates for concept B
[1:51:39]
were updated to reflect uh cost
[1:51:42]
escalation through 2030. Uh as many of
[1:51:46]
you know the facilities in the master
[1:51:48]
plan uh and and which could include
[1:51:51]
modifications proposed or recommended by
[1:51:53]
four uh will be done over time and cost
[1:51:56]
escalation factors uh are a driving a a
[1:52:00]
cost driving factor that's really
[1:52:02]
important to track. uh in particular the
[1:52:05]
uh cost update will help inform your
[1:52:08]
budget and CIP as uh the town manager
[1:52:11]
reported earlier that is in process and
[1:52:15]
the updated cost estimates will help
[1:52:17]
inform the the the next year's budget
[1:52:20]
and budgets going forward
[1:52:23]
in terms of the uh election code 9192
[1:52:26]
report again that is a fiscal impact
[1:52:29]
study uh that was really a response to the FOR initiative. Uh the
[1:52:36]
report required contracting with uh a
[1:52:39]
number of specialized firms including
[1:52:41]
RSG who was the lead contractor but also
[1:52:45]
uh the the master plan consultant KPA
[1:52:48]
along with Mary McGrath Architects who
[1:52:51]
uh did a an evaluation of the costs of a
[1:52:54]
new capital fire facility and citygate
[1:52:57]
associates which prepared the staffing
[1:52:59]
analysis for uh two scenarios. one uh
[1:53:03]
either contracting with uh Ross Valley
[1:53:06]
Fire or a standalone fire station. Uh
[1:53:09]
the the outcome of that is uh that it
[1:53:13]
helps inform both the town council and
[1:53:15]
the voters. Again, uh recognizing that
[1:53:17]
council approved the fourth initiative
[1:53:19]
for placement on the November ballot. Uh
[1:53:22]
that's a key piece of information uh for
[1:53:24]
both council and and voters. Um
[1:53:27]
ultimately it does uh help inform policy
[1:53:30]
direction and and financial feasibility
[1:53:32]
associated with the fourth the fourth
[1:53:34]
initiative. Um I I want to note that the
[1:53:39]
uh election code 9192 report is uh
[1:53:42]
included on your website and is
[1:53:44]
available for review by the community.
[1:53:47]
Uh at your February meeting, council
[1:53:50]
gave direction to staff to move forward
[1:53:53]
with two requests for qualifications. Uh
[1:53:56]
the first of which was for a affordable
[1:53:59]
housing. uh to prepare that RFQ. Town
[1:54:03]
staff coordinated with both planning
[1:54:06]
staff and the town attorney's office to
[1:54:08]
ensure that the RFQ reflected
[1:54:11]
consistency with your your housing
[1:54:12]
element and your regional housing needs
[1:54:16]
uh compliance objectives uh in addition
[1:54:18]
to consistency with your both your
[1:54:20]
zoning and your development standards.
[1:54:22]
that uh RFQ which was authorized by
[1:54:25]
council on February 12th and
[1:54:26]
subsequently released requires
[1:54:29]
statements of qualifications to be uh
[1:54:32]
submitted to the town on on uh April 3rd
[1:54:35]
which is tomorrow. Uh thus far we have
[1:54:38]
received uh uh one SOQ uh in advance of
[1:54:42]
the due date and we are hoping to
[1:54:44]
receive additional SOQs um in accordance
[1:54:48]
with the due date. Uh next steps do
[1:54:51]
include review of uh all received SOQS,
[1:54:55]
uh interviews of uh the potential
[1:54:59]
development partners, and the goal would
[1:55:02]
be to bring that forward to council for
[1:55:04]
consideration of an exclusive
[1:55:06]
negotiating agreement with the uh the
[1:55:09]
preferred housing partner.
[1:55:12]
Uh as as I mentioned earlier, council
[1:55:15]
also approved RFQ for architectural
[1:55:18]
engineering services. Uh thus far, we've
[1:55:22]
received and just just by way of email
[1:55:24]
received the the fourth uh SOQ today. Uh
[1:55:28]
we are expecting additional SOQs uh by
[1:55:31]
the due date tomorrow. So I'm thinking
[1:55:33]
we'll have at least five, if not more uh
[1:55:36]
SOQ's. Uh again, the the uh council in
[1:55:41]
their discussions and approval of that
[1:55:43]
RFQ did uh recommend including language
[1:55:47]
to uh support potential evaluation of
[1:55:50]
alternatives
[1:55:52]
site configurations and development
[1:55:54]
particularly in response to the fourth
[1:55:56]
initiative which you're going to uh as I
[1:55:58]
understand receive a presentation later
[1:56:00]
this month. So if we can get an
[1:56:02]
architect on board uh that will help
[1:56:05]
with some critical evaluation of of of
[1:56:07]
that proposal assuming it comes comes
[1:56:10]
forward. Again, next steps in in that
[1:56:13]
process will be to uh you know,
[1:56:16]
diligently review the uh SOQs that have
[1:56:19]
been submitted. Uh conduct interviews
[1:56:22]
with the top two or three firms and
[1:56:25]
ultimately uh negotiate a scope of work
[1:56:28]
that would be the basis of a a
[1:56:31]
professional services agreement with the
[1:56:33]
selected or recommended firm uh which
[1:56:35]
would uh require council approval. So
[1:56:37]
that would be placed back on your agenda
[1:56:39]
for review and approval. And that would
[1:56:41]
be a professional service agreement with
[1:56:44]
a detailed scope of work. uh providing
[1:56:47]
the architectural engineering services
[1:56:49]
which would include uh of course design
[1:56:52]
services, landscape uh uh architecture
[1:56:56]
uh uh civil work as as along with what
[1:57:00]
we call MEP um uh for all of your uh air
[1:57:06]
conditioning ma and electrical equipment
[1:57:08]
so forth.
[1:57:11]
Um
[1:57:13]
as council just saw uh the you received
[1:57:16]
a presentation by Fieldman Rolap. Um
[1:57:21]
within the last month uh we moved very
[1:57:23]
quickly to uh issue a request for
[1:57:27]
proposals uh document uh for municipal
[1:57:30]
advisory services to uh three firms as reported by uh the town manager. Uh
[1:57:37]
we we received those three proposals and
[1:57:40]
quickly uh made a decision to retain
[1:57:44]
Fieldman Rolap who is very qualified uh
[1:57:46]
firm to serve as municipal adviser for
[1:57:49]
kind of this phase one effort to do an
[1:57:53]
evaluation of the town's budget but also
[1:57:55]
to look at potential uh financing
[1:57:57]
options for for the council's
[1:57:59]
consideration. Um and as part of that
[1:58:02]
you assess debt capacity and what the
[1:58:04]
tax impacts are for the for the
[1:58:07]
residents for associated with a
[1:58:09]
potential uh revenue measure. Uh of
[1:58:12]
course the presentation tonight was was
[1:58:14]
somewhat general. I mean the budget
[1:58:16]
stuff was very specific uh but it may uh
[1:58:19]
it would ultimately be need to be uh you
[1:58:22]
know f further clarified when we
[1:58:24]
understand what costs the council may
[1:58:26]
want to uh cover as part of either the
[1:58:29]
fourth initiative or the master plan.
[1:58:34]
Uh just briefly on SQA environmental
[1:58:36]
review, I just want to uh restate that
[1:58:39]
uh you know staff conducted a um uh kind
[1:58:44]
of a mini environmental review to assess
[1:58:46]
the environmental impacts of the
[1:58:48]
facility master plan. Uh one of the key
[1:58:52]
you know study areas uh from a SQA
[1:58:55]
perspective
[1:58:56]
uh is of course land use planning but uh
[1:59:01]
maybe more significantly includes uh
[1:59:03]
transportation issues, transportation
[1:59:05]
safety around uh your your two major
[1:59:08]
thorough affairs adjacent to the town
[1:59:10]
hall uh along with biological issues and
[1:59:13]
historic resource issues.
[1:59:16]
Um
[1:59:18]
the
[1:59:20]
earlier uh Gant chart did identify that
[1:59:23]
we'd be moving forward with
[1:59:24]
environmental review. Uh town manager
[1:59:27]
and town attorney and myself have
[1:59:29]
discussed bringing an RFQ forward. Uh
[1:59:33]
but we we did uh hold off that process
[1:59:35]
was delayed to allow for the citizens
[1:59:38]
advisory committee to provide a
[1:59:40]
recommendation to town council because I
[1:59:42]
know that was a concern of council is
[1:59:44]
that there was we maybe moving forward
[1:59:46]
too fast. So uh that that that process
[1:59:49]
has been delayed but we do think one of
[1:59:52]
the key next steps is to uh hire
[1:59:56]
necessary subconultants to that would
[1:59:58]
inform the environmental review process
[2:00:01]
uh going forward.
[2:00:03]
So that really concludes an update uh on
[2:00:06]
the facilities master plan. Again, just
[2:00:09]
to uh emphasize that the goal of the the
[2:00:12]
master plan was, you know, mo
[2:00:14]
modernization of your your town
[2:00:17]
facilities in in alignment with
[2:00:19]
community's desires, but also while uh
[2:00:22]
protecting public safety and service.
[2:00:26]
>> Thank you, David. Questions? Elizabeth?
[2:00:30]
>> Uh thank you very much. Um uh regarding
[2:00:34]
the um architectural and engineering
[2:00:37]
services, you mentioned that there'd be
[2:00:39]
a professional service agreement that
[2:00:41]
would come to the council with details.
[2:00:43]
When would that be coming to the
[2:00:45]
council?
[2:00:46]
>> Uh we don't have a a specific date
[2:00:49]
scheduled yet. Um you know it's going to
[2:00:51]
be uh based in part on arranging
[2:00:54]
interview well first conducting a
[2:00:57]
thorough review of proposals and um uh
[2:01:02]
you know negotiating a scope of work
[2:01:05]
with the the the top firm. Uh and that will kind of set the the schedule
[2:01:10]
for when we bring that uh when that
[2:01:12]
scope of work comes back to council.
[2:01:14]
Because I was I was thinking if if there
[2:01:16]
are changes to the plan come later this
[2:01:19]
month, that would have to be something
[2:01:21]
that would be part of this part of the scope of work. Is that right?
[2:01:26]
>> I think that's that's that's fair to
[2:01:27]
say, Mayor P.
[2:01:28]
>> And we don't have a May meeting, so it
[2:01:29]
wouldn't at the earliest it would be
[2:01:31]
June. Is that is that too late or is
[2:01:33]
that okay?
[2:01:35]
Uh, I would probably defer to town town
[2:01:37]
manager whether a special meeting would
[2:01:39]
be necessary, but otherwise,
[2:01:40]
>> you know, it it's it definitely we're
[2:01:43]
not going to be ready for your next
[2:01:44]
council meeting, which is April 29th.
[2:01:46]
So, that this item it will not be on
[2:01:48]
April 29th, and you are correct that
[2:01:51]
there's no meeting in May. So, the first
[2:01:53]
other opportunity would be June 11th.
[2:01:56]
Um, but honestly, I we we we need to
[2:01:59]
talk more about um the evaluation and
[2:02:02]
all that that stuff. So, um, and I'm I'm
[2:02:05]
really interested in hearing, uh, from
[2:02:07]
the citizens committee, too. So, um, we wanted to, uh, give we wanted to get
[2:02:15]
the word out to architectural and
[2:02:17]
engineering firms. We're happy we we
[2:02:20]
have, uh, received um, and expect to
[2:02:22]
receive a few more tomorrow. That's
[2:02:24]
really exciting. And, um, so we're not
[2:02:28]
it's we're not rushing this, mayor prom.
[2:02:31]
Um,
[2:02:32]
>> so June would be the rush, but I was
[2:02:34]
just wondering it has to be held up a
[2:02:36]
little bit for the citizens committee
[2:02:38]
and then will these firms be not happy
[2:02:42]
if they aren't signed on until sometime
[2:02:45]
in June or later? I I I think that firms
[2:02:49]
are are very used to when they work with cities, especially on projects of
[2:02:53]
this size, and they uh as the council
[2:02:56]
directed us when we came to you to get
[2:03:00]
your approval to release these
[2:03:02]
documents, we did add language into
[2:03:04]
these uh requests for qualifications
[2:03:07]
that talked about the fourth initiative.
[2:03:10]
So, I'm sure that they're expecting that
[2:03:13]
there's going to be some ups and downs
[2:03:15]
and some changes. So, I I don't think
[2:03:17]
they're going to be surprised.
[2:03:20]
>> Thank you.
[2:03:21]
>> Any other questions? Any public comment
[2:03:24]
on this item?
[2:03:26]
Anybody online? Donna,
[2:03:29]
>> there's no one online, Mayor.
[2:03:31]
>> Okay. Um, any further discussion? I I
[2:03:34]
just wanted to thank you for getting
[2:03:36]
these things, the the municipal finance
[2:03:41]
opinion consultation and the architect
[2:03:45]
engineering and also the affordable
[2:03:47]
housing getting those moving instead of
[2:03:50]
waiting until after April 29th because
[2:03:53]
if we want to do something by the
[2:03:55]
November election, it's going to be a
[2:03:57]
huge scramble. So the more we can do in
[2:04:00]
advance, as Christa, you wisely set up,
[2:04:03]
the the better off we'll be. So, thank
[2:04:06]
you for continuing to push forward on
[2:04:08]
the items that we can push forward on.
[2:04:11]
>> You're welcome. Thank you.
[2:04:13]
>> All right. Item 16,
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town council to consider adopting
[2:04:18]
resolution number 2617, approving and
[2:04:21]
authorizing the mayor to execute a first
[2:04:23]
amendment to the amended and restated
[2:04:26]
employment agreement between the town
[2:04:29]
and town manager Christa Johnson to be
[2:04:32]
effective April 2nd, 2026.
[2:04:34]
Den,
[2:04:35]
>> good evening, mayor and council members.
[2:04:38]
This is your town attorney, Benjamin. I
[2:04:40]
like that introduction. That was a nice
[2:04:42]
angle. You referred to that for now on.
[2:04:44]
>> He used the word esteemed, too.
[2:04:45]
>> Esteemed.
[2:04:46]
Benjamin. I enjoyed that.
[2:04:49]
>> Uh, tonight before you is the proposed
[2:04:51]
first amendment to the amended and
[2:04:52]
restated town manager employment
[2:04:54]
agreement to increase the town manager's
[2:04:56]
vacation leave cap from 300 to 400
[2:04:58]
hours.
[2:05:00]
During the last 5 months, a heavy
[2:05:02]
workload has prevented the town manager
[2:05:03]
from taking vacation leave, resulting in
[2:05:05]
the consistent loss of vacation leave
[2:05:07]
due to the cap on the vacation leave
[2:05:09]
balance stayed in her current employment
[2:05:11]
agreement.
[2:05:13]
Most city managers in Marin have the
[2:05:14]
ability to sell back a certain amount of
[2:05:16]
vacation leave hours each year. Uh the
[2:05:19]
town manager does not have that benefit
[2:05:20]
in her existing contract. To prevent the
[2:05:23]
loss of vacation leave, the town manager
[2:05:25]
has requested that the council consider
[2:05:27]
a request to increase the cap from 300
[2:05:29]
to 400 hours. And there's a proposed
[2:05:31]
amendment in your packet with a
[2:05:33]
resolution accompanying that. And that
[2:05:35]
concludes my report.
[2:05:36]
>> Thank you, esteemed council person
[2:05:40]
stock.
[2:05:40]
>> Benjamin what's your middle initial?
[2:05:43]
Um, any questions on this council
[2:05:46]
members?
[2:05:49]
public comment on this item.
[2:05:53]
» No one's online, mayor.
[2:05:54]
>> Okay. Then we'll bring it back for any
[2:05:56]
discussion or a motion.
[2:06:02]
» I just want to say I I worked for the
[2:06:04]
city and county of San Francisco for
[2:06:06]
many years. And so I went back and said,
[2:06:08]
what do we have in San Francisco as a
[2:06:11]
ceiling for where you can't carry
[2:06:13]
vacation over? It's 400 400 hours. So,
[2:06:17]
it's pretty consistent with how it is
[2:06:19]
other places.
[2:06:23]
» And I I think given how hard our town
[2:06:26]
manager has been working and juggling so
[2:06:28]
many things that we need to make sure
[2:06:31]
that she is able to take a break
[2:06:33]
>> and not be penalized for working hard,
[2:06:35]
which is you're getting penalized right
[2:06:37]
now for working hard um by not being
[2:06:40]
able to use your vacation time or carry
[2:06:42]
it over. So, I'm totally in favor of
[2:06:45]
this.
[2:06:46]
So, I'd like to make a motion, unless
[2:06:48]
somebody else wants to speak, that we
[2:06:50]
adopt resolution number 2617.
[2:06:55]
» Second.
[2:06:58]
>> Mayor McMillan.
[2:06:59]
>> Yes.
[2:06:59]
>> Mayor Prom Robbins.
[2:07:01]
>> Yes.
[2:07:01]
>> Council member Kercher.
[2:07:03]
>> Yes.
[2:07:03]
>> Council member Dally.
[2:07:05]
>> Yes.
[2:07:06]
>> Motion passes.
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>> Thank you, council and esteemed
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attorney.
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>> Take that vacation.
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>> Yes.
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>> All right. Um, the no action items,
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council correspondence. I just
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distributed a nice note from Anna about
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us giving her a proclamation. Is there
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any other council correspondence?
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Future council items. Anybody have
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anything?
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Council member participation at the
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communications table at our next meeting
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which is April 29th. I am able to be
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there. If anyone else wants to join me,
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>> I can join you.
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>> Okay.
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great. Um 18 is our meeting evaluation.
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It's 8:07.
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>> That is good. Any any constructive
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criticism or comments?
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>> Nope. All right.
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>> I think it went very smoothly.
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>> I agree.
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>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> All right. And I and I actually was glad
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to see so many people in the um sitting
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area audience.
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>> Yeah.
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>> People. So that's great.
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>> All right. With that we are adjourned at
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8:08. Thank you.