[3:21] Congratulations, Mr. Clavett, Mr. Hunter. It's impressive that you just started with us and quickly have become employees of the month. That's very impressive and we appreciate the work that you do every day. And I know it's not always easy out there, but again, it's noticed, not just by council but by citizens. And again, we appreciate what you all do every day. So thank you.

[3:50] The

[3:59] next recognition, I believe we have for Ms. Watson.

[4:04] Mr. Klein?

[4:05] Okay.

[4:06] At this time, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to call up all the thing coach Bill Mayhew, many of

[4:14] us in town have been coached by him over the years.

[4:19] I couldn't tell you how many championships and champion wrestlers that he has done, but

[4:25] But he continues to be instrumental in our wrestling program.

[4:30] One of the two young men we're recognizing tonight also drew Curly.

[4:35] I can remember when he was born and he threw rocks on the baseball field all the time we

[4:44] was trying to practice, but his family, been in a community

[4:51] a long time as well, and wrestling was a passion that

[4:56] drew the early age.

[4:58] I apologize that I do not know Sam as well, but I do know

[5:03] Sam, and he also has let folks know they really don't want to

[5:08] get on the mat with him, but we have two outstanding young

[5:12] men and and if you all would come up coach and drew in Sam and come up the

[5:19] mayor's got a certificate to hand you please.

[5:47] I think a lot of us would like to

[5:48] have as much hair Sam would like to have a good job. Just so you know Sam when I

[6:02] I

[6:17] would like to say that these are two really outstanding individuals.

[6:24] They were told, like he said, Drew started, I saw Drew when he left the type of restaurant.

[6:31] I watched him grow.

[6:32] So, both of these have been all state and drew at the all state, this is just over the years of all state pressure and it went all over this year.

[6:42] And then Sam, it's his second years of all state and he also, also drew our state record, or our school record.

[6:51] for the first wind to come 160-some winds. Sam also, he already has a lift on the wind, so he's going to go fast on a 50-byte.

[7:02] It was really, really outstanding for us, and the community can be very proud of the fact that they were here, and he was asking how many stage amps I don't really know either.

[7:17] I know it's more than 50, probably closer to 75 or so space anchors that we have added, so we've had a lot of individuals that are really good, but it's because we work hard and we finally can't talk about the rules all the time.

[7:37] We do appreciate you on our map tonight, and thank you so much, and we got good stuff

[7:45] out of our connections here, so it's always great to thank you so much.

[7:52] Yeah, maybe you may have talked you some time, get some more dirt on him.

[8:08] That's a, that's a fight. I also remember him following us with the truck. The coaching methods

[8:14] have changed now, but if you got slowed at truck would bump you.

[8:18] Yeah, well, Drew Sam, congratulations, great work as students representing South

[8:29] Artil. You're really impressive to student athletes and so look forward to

[8:36] hearing what you all might do again going forward, too.

[8:41] Absolutely coach. Yes,

[8:44] Absolutely.

[8:55] Just for the record we think all of you for coming tonight but we

[8:59] certainly are not going to make you all sit through our entire meeting. You all

[9:03] are welcome to leave now if you want or you can join the rest of the business we

[9:08] have but that's entirely up to you.

[9:12] Thank you coach. Appreciate it. Thank you all

[9:15] great work.

[9:20] I like

[9:31] it when

[9:36] the coach asked if he can speak. Like, am I going to deny it's

[9:41] not going to happen.

[9:46] From one of the I thought we were back in the rest of the room, but it's

[9:50] That's all good.

[9:53] The next item on the agenda is the proclamation

[9:57] for the National Child Abuse Prevention Month.

[10:01] I'll read a couple of captions from the proclamation,

[10:05] but it is available.

[10:06] Whereas the fiscal year 2024 3.9 million reports

[10:12] were made to child protective services.

[10:16] Child abuse and neglect is a serious problem.

[10:20] Our children are our most valuable resource in our community.

[10:24] Child abuse can have long-term psychological, emotional, and physical effects.

[10:32] Protective factors are conditions that reduce or eliminate risk and

[10:38] promote the social, emotional, developmental, well-being of children.

[10:44] Effective child abuse prevention activities succeed because of the partnerships.

[10:49] created between child welfare professionals, education, health, community, and

[10:56] faith-based organizations, businesses, law enforcement agencies, and families.

[11:02] We acknowledge that we must work together as a community to increase awareness about child abuse and

[11:08] contribute to promote and continue to promote the social and emotional well-being of children and families.

[11:16] in a safe, stable, and nurturing environment.

[11:20] And whereas prevention remains the best defense to our children and families.

[11:25] Therefore, I, T. Ross, Sean, Mayor, Town, and Trappin do hereby proclaim April, 2025 as national child abuse prevention and

[11:34] month in Trappin, North Carolina.

[11:37] In partnership with Ardor County Department of Social Services,

[11:40] is Artor County Garden had litem office,

[11:44] payrolls, parenting, children's hope alliance,

[11:48] dov house, children's advocacy center,

[11:50] and Artor County partnership for young children.

[11:54] We urge all citizens to recognize this month

[11:57] by dedicating ourselves to the task

[11:59] of improving the quality of life for all children and families.

[12:04] And I sign this day, April, 2025.

[12:10] And again, important proclamation, but more important that we do what we can to prevent child abuse awareness in our community.

[12:25] The next item on our agenda is standing reports.

[12:29] And I believe we've got Mr. Getzinger here with our ABC quarterly report looking forward to hearing from him.

[12:39] Good to see you, Mr. Getzinger.

[12:59] So anyway, it's a cozy group tonight, and I like the new microphone to say it's snazzy.

[13:11] And Mayor, you look like a professor now.

[13:16] I can't keep up with you, sir, but I know.

[13:18] Well, let me tell you what, I like this glass.

[13:22] Anyway, on behalf of the Troutman ABC Board,

[13:28] fellow Board members, West Edmiston and Kim

[13:31] Kavins, and General Manager Evan Coleman,

[13:35] thank you for the chance to be here tonight

[13:37] to talk to you about performance for the second.

[13:41] I mean, third quarter of the physical year.

[13:44] And just before I get into that, though, I wouldn't like to say real quickly, I mentioned

[13:52] it in the last quarter, but it was such a nice thing to happen, I wanted to repeat it.

[14:03] The ABC Commission put out its percentage of profit to sales report last at the end of

[14:13] last quarter for the fiscal year of 2324 which was last fiscal year. And they rank all

[14:22] the 168 ABC boards based on their percentage performance. And Troutman was number 12 out

[14:33] of a hundred and sixty-eight in percentage of profits to sales and that it doesn't matter

[14:43] what size of stories we have performed much larger boards that would have a lot more

[14:51] revenue than what we would have.

[14:53] but it really boils down to how you manage your expenses that are...

[15:00] Attendant to all that and that goes back to how well Evelyn and her staff are performing to keep the calls to operations down and at the same time, making sure that the customers that come in there are enjoying their experience. So just wanted to remind you of that because I just feel like it's something that's significant that these, these other folks have done.

[15:29] that is worthy of merit, and just going quickly into the third quarter's numbers.

[15:39] As a reminder, our budget is 3.1 million forecasted for the year, for the third quarter

[15:47] had $779,181 sales and that was an increase of $38,000 over the previous third quarter

[16:03] for last year, which was a 5.1% increase.

[16:09] And that's an important number when you hear what I have to say here at the end, which

[16:15] I'll try to get too quicker than not, but anyway, so in January we had 14.4% increase

[16:24] over the previous January, February was just 1.4% increase and March was 0.65% over last

[16:36] March. So that 5.1% really came out of January's numbers because February and March were

[16:48] barely above break even. The third quarter's net profits were $69,707 and that was a 9% of sales

[17:00] versus the 10.4% that we had for the previous year.

[17:12] That profit is 33% of our annual budgeted profit of $209,282.

[17:22] Our distribution is for the second quarter.

[17:25] for the third quarter is going to be $21,878 to the town, and it's identified as recipients.

[17:33] A loan enforcement will get $3,662 and alcohol and drug education will get $5,127.

[17:44] dollars. I am inventory at the end of the third quarter of right below 26,000 over last year

[17:55] and our current retained working capital is $557,000 against an allowed $642,855 so that's 87 percent

[18:09] of that number in this specific capital reserve account which council approved for us to

[18:17] it's a statute a state statute that allows for us to do that based on councils

[18:26] or pointing authorities approval in in 2021 y'all approved for us to set up this account

[18:35] this money will go towards the second store and it's in there we got $333,000 and based on

[18:46] our sales thus far for the fiscal year we're on track to do $3.55 million which is about $450,000

[18:57] above what the budget is and what I'm going to tell you next could cause those numbers

[19:04] to change downward.

[19:09] As you've heard me say already before, we're seeing modest increases in the numbers in

[19:17] our sales, but the taken into account inflation that those increases are really flat, you

[19:28] know, just keeping us sort of flat with what's going on around us.

[19:35] And the significance of what I'm saying next is something that we really don't know what's

[19:42] going on.

[19:42] and it's not just, we, you heard the numbers a while ago, we were right, we were 1% 1.4% in February above, we had, last year's February sales and 0.65% in March, sales across the state in February were down 6.59% in February.

[20:12] In February, that was February and March, sales were down across the state 6.21 percent.

[20:20] And when you, we get these reports at about 10 days into the month, for the following month.

[20:29] But these are reports that rank order all the ABC boards of 165 boards across the state

[20:38] and their performance and just about every one of them have negative profitability over the previous month for like February 24.

[20:52] And in a lot of cases I'm telling them that sizeable decreases, 10%, 12%, 14%.

[21:02] And this, obviously, this decrease takes in the consideration the fact that there are

[21:09] stores that went offline with Helene, but we've got that these other stores are spread

[21:17] out throughout the state, and so they would have not really been affected by Helene.

[21:22] And so I mentioned to you, I don't know, maybe six months ago that the Surgeon General

[21:31] had put out a report that said that alcohol and any amount was cancerous.

[21:42] So that was, you know, something that I think has resonated across the country.

[21:48] I mean, there were a number of articles that you've probably seen plenty of articles

[21:53] in either the newspapers or magazines referencing that report.

[22:00] But I don't know that that's what's the factor here and we don't know, I just got these

[22:09] numbers last evening so it came as a surprise to the board and myself.

[22:17] But I just thought it was important that you be aware of that because it does have an impact on

[22:25] Where we are right now in terms of the second store's planning for going forward

[22:32] we

[22:34] We're right now

[22:37] We're waiting for the

[22:39] Sales I mean our sales like how you you've heard we're relatively flat, you know based on

[22:45] last year. So until the sales kick up, it's, excuse me, I have a problem, but since I have my surgery.

[22:56] But until they tick up, I mean, we can't really take on a three million, three and a half million dollar

[23:05] note and service that debt on a second store it and it's that second store I

[23:14] mean cost of construction of the I don't know it's three to four hundred

[23:18] squared dollars or square foot so if we we were looking at maybe a six thousand

[23:24] square foot building similar to what we've got over here but we wanted to do a

[23:31] warehouse which we can always build it like after the fact like we did

[23:34] over here so that's not the biggest issue but there's a lot of parking lot that we have

[23:40] to build, there's a road we have to build to come into the property and then a road across

[23:46] our neighbor's property to get out the flower house loop and then there's a detention

[23:50] plot and the roads that go back to that so it's a very expensive proposition based on numbers

[23:58] that are not yet there to justify going forward.

[24:03] So I just want you to understand that we feel like, you know, the board just do not have

[24:13] the comfort zone that we'd like to be in to go forward at this point and I'd be glad

[24:20] to answer any questions and concerns that I may have just created for you.

[24:27] Any questions for Mr. Gethsinger?

[24:33] I would say you all are making a prudent decision and you all have always operated in a prudent

[24:41] manner and conservative manner and it still shows, I mean your congratulations on being

[24:48] number 12 in terms of profitability.

[24:52] And again, that's how Mark and so you guys are still doing very well.

[24:56] And so give our best to, you know, the team and let them know that, again, Council and the

[25:03] team appreciate what you all do every day.

[25:07] And again, I think you're giving the current environment.

[25:11] You're making a wise decision, you know, if it'll start to shape up, I'm sure you'll make

[25:17] a run on it.

[25:18] But, again, make sense.

[25:20] Thank you, Mayor.

[25:21] That's very kind.

[25:22] and if I get some answers to the reasons why the numbers are down and if the numbers are

[25:31] down for the month of April, I mean I won't wait till the end of the next quarter to let

[25:36] you know what's going on. So if there's enough tech and things seem to be heading back in

[25:42] the right direction, I'll shoot an email over to Kim when she can, you know, let you know

[25:48] What I know great, well, I'm sad to see the numbers are down, but it seems to be a systemic

[25:56] thing and not just tripping things, so, you know, I take comfort in that, even though

[26:01] I'm disappointed, sad, not, I'm disappointed, we've got a great board, a great manager

[26:06] in the store, but again, I'm disappointed in the numbers and so forth, but again, in fact,

[26:11] to work 12 is made up one of that. And this is happening across the state. This is something

[26:19] evidently is going to have to work itself out. Well, I don't, you know, I'm in agreement

[26:26] and I thank you for your comments.

[26:30] Great. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Good to see

[26:34] you. Good to see you everybody.

[26:40] Okay. The next item on the agenda is new business.

[26:45] and we've got the citizen of the year award, we discussed it on Monday. I will ask for

[27:00] council to put forth based on the applications that we've received. Any recommendation

[27:10] for a citizen of the year.

[27:14] It's now the time.

[27:18] Make a motion that we choose Anna Johnson,

[27:22] as citizen of the year.

[27:24] Okay.

[27:24] Motion's on the floor to choose Hannah Johnson.

[27:28] Is there a second?

[27:29] Second, Mr. Mayor.

[27:32] Motion has been made, received a second.

[27:34] Any question or comment?

[27:38] Okay.

[27:38] All those in favor say hi?

[27:40] Hi.

[27:40] Any opposition?

[27:42] Hearing none, motion passes.

[27:47] I look forward to providing her the award at next month's meeting.

[27:55] The next item is an organization of the year.

[27:59] Again, Council, you had an opportunity to discuss it on Monday.

[28:06] Is there a recommendation on an organization of the year?

[28:10] Mr. Mayor, I'll make the motion that we elect the Routain Club of Proutman as our organization

[28:20] of the year.

[28:21] Okay.

[28:21] I'm motioned on the floor to recommend the Routain Club of Proutman as the organization

[28:29] of the year is there a second motion is made to see the second any question or comment.

[28:38] All those in favor say aye.

[28:40] Aye.

[28:40] In the opposition, hearing none, motion passes.

[28:45] Look forward to awarding the Rotan Club Organization of the Year.

[28:52] I would say it's great to have multiple nominations for

[28:57] both citizen and organization of the year.

[29:01] And look forward to maybe in the future, seeing some of those nominees again.

[29:08] And so again, appreciate those who made those nominations, citizens who were willing to

[29:15] nominate some of these, both awardees and people who were nominated.

[29:22] So thank you for that.

[29:25] The next item on the agenda is to consider Resolution 0925 titled the Town of Trotman Resolution

[29:31] of tentative awards of construction contracts for the 2022 sewer collection rehabilitation

[29:39] project. Number CS3705806 and SRP WSRP0249. At this time I believe our engineer Mr. Thomas

[29:57] What's this here?

[29:59] What?

[30:04] Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of council. Good to be with you again in a while. This is one, it's really two contracts for one major project and there's several others in process. But this one focuses on getting your consumer collection system tighter, keeping the rain water out, helping prevent sanitary sewer overloads, spills, prevent backups. So this focus, this is part of the culmination

[30:34] of a couple years of studying the older part of your system, the clay pipes, the brick

[30:39] mantles, a lot of smoke testing, putting cameras down pipes, opening up the mantles, taking

[30:46] pictures, and then ranking all those to see which are the worst parts of the system, and

[30:50] even these things.

[30:52] And so this project that we received is on, has two parts, one is what we call contract

[30:57] a sewer pipe rehabilitation, that's where you put a epoxy liner inside the old clay pipe.

[31:07] The clay pipe stays in place, but it's liner, the cures, it's heated up with steam, and so it goes

[31:13] in real flexible, but then when they cure it becomes a very hard pipe with no joints, there's no way

[31:19] water can get in or out. And then for the brick manholes, a lot of those will be lined with

[31:25] the high quality cement line of a lot of the time tops the mantle would be replaced.

[31:31] In some cases, we'll actually dig up and replace the pipe.

[31:34] It's so bad you can't even put it into the liners through it.

[31:37] So that's the type of work it is.

[31:40] And, excuse me.

[31:42] So you have in your packet a layer of recommendation from our firm,

[31:46] we've reviewed the bid and the bidders, the low bid for the pipeline in contract A,

[31:54] They're based out of Missouri, but they have crews all around the country, primarily in Florida.

[32:02] And then contract B is that man-hole work and digging and replacing a pipe.

[32:07] And the low bidder on that is lock lane construction.

[32:09] The Stoney Point North Carolina is kind of near state spill and Taylor spill.

[32:15] And our firm has not worked directly with SAK before,

[32:19] but so we check their references and they got good reports and they certainly checked out as far as plenty of

[32:27] experience and also speaking first hand some of the people that worked with them. We have worked personally

[32:34] West Consultants worked at Lock Lane construction on many projects and so we can confidently recommend them.

[32:40] So we do recommend these two contractors and the resolution is a resolution as opposed to actual contract

[32:46] because they would be contingent on these bids will also be reviewed by the funding agency in

[32:52] Raleigh, which is the Division of Environmental Quality, Department of Environmental Quality,

[32:58] the Division of Water Infrastructure. So they'll check it for completeness, make sure it meets all

[33:03] the requirements of their programs and they are funding this both through grants and loans,

[33:08] was the combination of grants and loans.

[33:12] So we're pleased that we got bids, that you have the funding

[33:17] in place for most of it, but we want to remind you

[33:20] that as it says here, you've got about 2.3 million dollars

[33:27] in grants and loans available.

[33:30] That falls short of these bids and the other cost

[33:34] is a project. So almost $600,000 more will be needed. We reached out to the division

[33:41] law infrastructure that had the money available to come in the form of a loan, just an

[33:46] increase in this existing loan. The best thing about it, a 20-year loan, you have 20 years

[33:53] to pay it back, and very low interest rate of about $1.6%. So it doesn't have a huge impact

[34:00] on your budget and your revenues.

[34:04] Excuse me, can you write down a set of the entire loan,

[34:06] 1.6% of the entire loan, you said, you know,

[34:10] we're obviously having to come up late for it.

[34:12] Approximately 600,000.

[34:13] So that's the head of dome to the existing loans we've.

[34:16] Right.

[34:16] Even here in the resolution, the loan that had already

[34:20] been approved, and the council had already

[34:22] accepted in the past, the $687,500, so that would go up

[34:28] to approximately 1.3 million total and then we'll have to 1.2 million.

[34:34] We have 20 years to pay it back at that low interest rate.

[34:37] So that's what we recommend and do recommend these contractors.

[34:43] If it's pleased to cancel, you pass the resolution and then we'll submit all this paperwork to Raleigh

[34:49] and then probably sometime in May or June.

[34:52] the project you did started. So would that have to answer any other questions?

[34:59] Any questions from Mr.

[35:04] Thomas here?

[35:10] So Benji, so a couple of things on the on the piping.

[35:19] We've mapped out everywhere we

[35:21] have clay pipe I'm assuming in that initial kind of research work we did so

[35:28] this would cover all clay pipe in the community. So good question. So this project

[35:34] will not line or replace every single pipe with prioritize the work because then

[35:42] you'd be looking for your forming and how to do all that.

[35:47] So clay pipe, excuse me, this popular is really only choice back in the 50, 60, 70s.

[35:57] There was orange bird pipe.

[35:59] Anytime we find that, we always replace it, almost like cardboard pipe, made with asphalt.

[36:07] But clay pipe is strong and it's of course very inert.

[36:11] We don't have to worry about chemicals corroding in that kind of thing.

[36:14] The problem is it's just brittle and the joints were back when they put it in.

[36:19] You just had a lot of joints and they're just, you've had cement in the joints.

[36:23] There's not like a rubber gasket like you would have today in modern places.

[36:27] So there's just a lot of ways that water can get in or sewer can get out from the original

[36:32] joints.

[36:34] And then also that it cracks over time through roots, this settlement, traffic loads, all the

[36:39] different things. All the stresses don't fight. No pipes can last forever. So the clay pipe

[36:46] will last 100 years easily if all the conditions around it don't stress it. So where we find

[36:53] it's been stressed, cracked, broken, that's where we're going to line it over the place.

[36:57] If it's intact or there's very few, there's actually in this contract some places where you

[37:03] have like 300 feet from a manhole to a manhole in the camera show that there's just one spot

[37:08] In that older intercede, we'll just dig down to that one spot and replace the pipe in that one spot.

[37:15] So in the end, you're probably end up replacing approximately 50% or replacing the lining approximately 50% of all this clay pipe.

[37:24] Not 100%.

[37:26] Okay.

[37:26] Great.

[37:28] In terms of the manholes, are they, I mean similar kind of situation,

[37:35] and just where there's either stress or damage

[37:38] or we've perceived, you know, based on what we saw,

[37:42] that's those are the ones we're still doing.

[37:44] We're thinking of break, of course,

[37:45] it's very hard and durable with the mortar

[37:48] that holds the break together.

[37:49] It will break down over time.

[37:52] And so easily, that's water in.

[37:56] So to dig up and replace a manhole,

[37:59] it's caused more than, like in a new subdivision,

[38:04] installing a new manhole that might be $5,000 if you dig up a brick manhole or replace it,

[38:10] you're talking probably $10,000, $15,000 per manhole. So it's more cost-effective to go in and repair

[38:18] the mortar and just line the entire side with a little bit of silicate mortar. And that will last

[38:25] you know, 10 to 20 years. So you're good. If you get about 40 years of life out of any kind of

[38:33] acid and the water source system that you're doing a good job. So in this case, the grit,

[38:39] manholes, you can get another 10 or 20 years for much less cost in the place in the full manhole.

[38:46] That's what we always advise. That's a lot of what you have in these days.

[38:51] That was not a sleep, but an internal sleep that you slide down inside of the brick manhole

[39:01] that exists.

[39:02] Excuse me.

[39:03] For the pipe, it's more like a sock that you put inside the pipe.

[39:08] Does the pipe, yeah, it's not like the manhole that is.

[39:10] The manhole.

[39:10] No, it would literally be a man person getting inside and applying it just like you would

[39:21] It just, again, this, just I guess, my personal curiosity, but you mentioned that the clay pipe we're talking about is put in in about 67-80s, I believe you said, right.

[39:34] In the 80s, it's when PVC pipe became much more prevalent.

[39:41] It was just kind of like the, and I know he made some of my orange bird for a name of the pipe.

[39:46] And it's a little bit different than the old plate pipe that I remember as a small child

[39:50] putting it up here in states and so forth. It's just different than that.

[39:55] What was it?

[39:56] It's hard.

[39:56] What were...

[39:58] You mean, are you asking about orange bird pipe?

[40:00] Yes.

[40:01] The orange bird pipe, that was popular during World War II, but it was cheap.

[40:05] And there was a lot of shortage on materials.

[40:07] and I guess Orangeburg South Carolina, I think it's where it was manufactured.

[40:14] That's more like it's a wood fiber and asphalt, that's how they made it.

[40:20] So that was 50s and 60s, that lot of that was put in.

[40:25] So it's very, it's not strong at all.

[40:27] It's in the roots, easily get into it.

[40:30] We're talking here just straight clay.

[40:33] Yeah, mostly what you have is like pipe

[40:36] And I don't even remember for sure if we ran any more

[40:41] Any

[40:46] other questions for

[40:49] Mr. Thomas

[40:51] Any projections on savings in terms of rainwater or any other good question

[40:57] So he had most pretty much all this clay pipe we're talking about that logo to the state spill connection and

[41:05] And they do see a big spike when it rains, you know, the heavier rain.

[41:11] So, I have to take the promise, because, you know, water gets in all kinds of places,

[41:15] including, you know, the people's houses from the house to the street, those four inch

[41:20] lines are pretty inch lines.

[41:22] You know, the town doesn't own those or maintain those, that's the dynamic control of those,

[41:28] so a lot of rain water can get in those, but, you know, I would hope that this cuts it

[41:33] didn't have, it's not better, anywhere we could find it. Smoke came out of the ground

[41:39] or out of the wrong place, other than the vent holes and the manholes. Then that tells us

[41:46] where water can get in, that we go and patch that place, that should keep the water out.

[41:52] So the town put a lot into the assessment that camera work and it's serving. So optimistic

[42:03] It felt like a big dip in those stormy blows.

[42:07] Great, thank you.

[42:14] Council, you've heard from Mr. Thomas,

[42:17] west consulting regarding this resolution,

[42:20] is there a motion on resolution zero nine, 25?

[42:28] Is there a second?

[42:30] Second, Mr. Mayor.

[42:31] Motion is made.

[42:32] We see the second.

[42:33] Any other question or comment?

[42:36] All those in favor say aye.

[42:38] Any opposition?

[42:42] the next

[42:47] item on the agenda is public comments. Public is welcome to rest the council with

[42:54] any comments or concerns.

[43:00] Anyone here from the public like to comment?

[43:06] All right. We'll

[43:08] move on down then to elected official reports and comments. I will start to my left. This

[43:15] Joe Zyski?

[43:23] Just think we'll be here today. Came in from Chapel Hill from

[43:27] training, getting through the rain and all the traffic to make it here on time for

[43:33] the meeting.

[43:35] Say you know great it's great to see that we have employees going

[43:40] above and beyond that we're nominating two employees of the month pretty

[43:43] consistently. It's just great to see that they're all working together and getting

[43:49] and stuff done that we need, performed on the community.

[43:57] Mr. Now, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[44:00] It's great to sit here and watch our student athletes

[44:03] achieve so much and be good students

[44:06] and be good athletes and be contributing into the community.

[44:11] It's nice to see and the coach for all the years

[44:15] seems to be mentoring our young youngsters in a great way.

[44:20] So I'm very happy to see that.

[44:22] I'd like to also send a minute on Councilman Jerzynski's

[44:26] comments with our employees.

[44:28] But this Sunday we got to wish everybody a happy Palm Sunday.

[44:33] Then the following Sunday we'd like to wish

[44:35] for all our citizens a happy Easter.

[44:39] And also I think it's a couple weeks from now,

[44:42] but I think it's a Tuesday.

[44:45] March 22nd we have Earth Day and the town is

[44:48] going to have a nice hopefully good day and we get out in the community and pick up a lot of litter and make the town look real good.

[45:01] Looking forward to those events and those holidays. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Mr. Enkel?

[45:09] Not really anything I can add. My two previous cohorts have said congratulating our employees and two young gentlemen from South Arrow and the coach has been up there for many, many years and a fantastic job.

[45:27] And, you know, as Eddie said, the upcoming events, as well as the observance of some very important holidays for a lot of people.

[45:39] So, I will leave it there.

[45:42] Thank you.

[45:45] Mr. Aukson.

[45:48] Likewise, echo all the other comments.

[45:54] I think it is good to see.

[45:58] It's one thing to look back on like a history of excellence, but I think it's another thing to see that excellence just keep continuing, and I think with the South wrestling program, that's just, it's amazing.

[46:10] It's one thing to hear that, oh, yeah, we had 50 champions and we just crowned two more, you know, it's not, this isn't a thing in the past.

[46:18] This is still excellence.

[46:19] months. So hats off to the whole program.

[46:25] Yeah, I am looking forward to Easter. I can't

[46:28] say that. But I do wish to, I would like to humbly request from my fellow council members

[46:37] if it is possible that we do have our budget meeting scheduled for the 22nd of this month.

[46:43] But if it is possible to move it to the following day, the 23rd, I think there's a couple

[46:52] things going on that day.

[46:56] Some that I know that I would like to be a part of, some I think maybe some other council

[46:59] members, other town members may want to be a part of.

[47:03] So that would be my request, and that is all I have, Mary.

[47:08] Thank you.

[47:12] Is there anything from staff and changing that date?

[47:17] I really can't answer without doing some research.

[47:22] If I've got people in class or scheduled off, I know on the 22nd,

[47:28] we have one department director in class on the 23rd.

[47:33] And I didn't know a date to check in advance.

[47:37] I would just have to get back with you all as whether that's an issue with any of the

[47:44] other directors or not.

[47:46] I honestly I can't say.

[47:48] Okay.

[47:50] And I may not be able to be there mostly the day on 23rd.

[47:58] So Mr.

[48:07] White, if you can check on the dates and maybe get back to us.

[48:11] Let us know if that worked with staff.

[48:14] Yes sir.

[48:14] And I can try to look at my schedule as well.

[48:17] Yes sir.

[48:18] Say if I can make some changes there.

[48:22] Okay.

[48:23] Yes sir.

[48:24] Thank you.

[48:26] Thanks for all the comments regarding employee of the month.

[48:31] Again, as I said earlier,

[48:32] President, they have two employees that just joined us.

[48:38] Immediately become employee of the month.

[48:41] I would say that's a testament to the leadership and in your hiring practices and also training

[48:51] and ensuring that they are part of the team and again, it's a good testament to what

[48:58] you all are doing in public works.

[49:02] I know you like to come up and talk, and so again, you welcome to bring as many of your

[49:10] employees up anytime for employee of the month, but again, great, great to see and echo

[49:19] Miss analysis comments around, you know, having our student athletes and just students

[49:26] in general in our community, as they continue to grow and develop to be part of our community

[49:32] where we can recognize them and show our support, I think it's always important.

[49:39] happy Easter. Again, thanks for bringing that up. That was the one thing that I had on my list.

[49:45] So, this now beat me to it. And again, I appreciate the folks who will come out on Earth Day.

[49:51] I know there's some nonprofits that will be out to help support. So, again, look forward to that.

[49:57] I did have a citizen call me regarding the intersection of Highway 21 at the charter

[50:08] school and new food line, concerned about the new road direction.

[50:16] As I said to them, that's Highway 21, that's a state DOT decision, as far as I know, and

[50:24] And they should have those conversations with DOT, but wanted to bring that up to Mr.

[50:31] Wyatt to slowly.

[50:32] You know that I'm sure you all might be getting same or similar conversations.

[50:37] But as I understand that the work is not yet complete, but anything you all might have on that.

[50:46] I would say hundreds of calls and complaints and on one hand, we totally understand some

[50:56] of their frustrations.

[50:58] On the other hand, that's the whole purpose the concrete island was put there is for people

[51:04] to pay attention and slow down and those that are used to driving in normal way are just

[51:11] not looking and paying attention to their driving.

[51:14] And if they were, they would see the concrete, and at the speed you're supposed to be

[51:22] driving through there, there's ample time to move a slight curve to the right and not

[51:30] hit it.

[51:32] But at the same token, Andrew has reached out to DOT.

[51:38] Anytime you have a change in traffic pattern, there should be warning lights or something

[51:44] letting people know that there's a change because we are creatures of habit. So I totally

[51:51] understand some of the citizen complaints that they have relayed a couple of them. I don't

[51:58] understand what they have said but I do feel their frustration. The police department has dealt

[52:05] with several incidents there. People calling them with damage to their vehicles and automatically

[52:13] likely soon they're hiring an attorney to sue the town and we've explained to them

[52:19] no no feel free if that's what you think you can accomplish but DOT they have

[52:26] responded our police officers on the weekends especially I know multiple

[52:31] occasions have reset barrels and cones just so that they are there but they keep

[52:39] getting run over. And the officers are doing that more than anyone else. And again, I understand

[52:48] I'm not making light of the frustrations but at the same token I just also want to say that's

[52:55] the whole purpose of that median being there. It is two calls people to pay attention. It is going

[53:02] to get a lot busier as some of those developed, properties are developed and this is just

[53:10] the warning of change to come. But we do agree with all of them. They should have been

[53:15] some signage letting them know to be aware.

[53:19] Yeah, we heard back from DOT, the company that was contracted to do that failed to do some

[53:28] campaigning correctly, and they've went back out to that and they failed like you said

[53:32] to do the warning signs. So for a point, we got our own cones and put them out there,

[53:37] and then the barrels are up, we've had people, a lot of crash reports have been taken because

[53:43] of people dropping on to the median.

[53:47] Thank you. That's all I have, Mr. White.

[53:52] Thank you all for reminding everybody of Earth Day. That is truly, as one of you stated,

[53:58] We did an opportunity we get to volunteer and make our community look a whole lot better.

[54:04] But spending a few hours with like-minded folks that just simply want to help and clean

[54:11] up the areas that will be identified.

[54:14] We hope that the weather cooperates.

[54:17] We're interested in how much that we can collect this year.

[54:21] We try to keep a count each year of what that is.

[54:26] Also, as you all mentioned, it is refreshing as a town manager to see the culture, each

[54:34] one of the department directors are creating in their departments.

[54:38] Not only do they work well there, but they work well with other departments as well,

[54:44] and it's refreshing to see the different little groups that go and have lunch and or social

[54:52] last in the evening. We've had several employees that truly look at their employment opportunities

[55:00] here as another part of their family. We've had a couple that we've had to threaten to take

[55:07] time off because they do enjoy their jobs. And for all the citizens that take time to relay positive

[55:16] of comments when they see the various employees doing their jobs, we appreciate that as well.

[55:23] And other than that, I will wrap it up by saying each one of our department directors has

[55:28] already met with money bags.

[55:31] But he's talking about where we stand and gave some excuse about he's got to put all this

[55:37] in the computer and see what it says.

[55:39] He's already deflected in the blame that is going to be the computer that tells us what

[55:44] But we've got to look at instead of what the numbers are.

[55:50] But I appreciate the in-depth thought process and planning, again, that the police chief

[55:57] in each department director has done.

[56:00] I was impressed by some of the things that Justin told me was discussed by each one of those

[56:06] folks with him.

[56:08] And then, of course, we had our overview meeting of where things are as well.

[56:13] But we look forward to the budget workshop, depending on what day it's going to be and taking you all's questions and

[56:23] Putting forth a good budget for all of our citizens. We look forward to that process and encourage anybody that they're welcome to come and

[56:32] Participate observe or listen when I say participate unless you all change the rules

[56:37] they're allowed to ask us questions on breaks and or ahead of time and or during

[56:44] that day but there's not a public speaking period as each department

[56:48] director speaks but we certainly are transparent for the process and welcome

[56:53] everybody to come and look. I did have one phone call asking why we were doing

[57:01] budget amendments. As I explained, our budget is simply a guide so that you all know is

[57:10] elected officials that we're trying to conduct business under your purview and transparently

[57:18] as possible. But just like a normal person's household budget, we can't predict when

[57:24] there's opportunities and or savings in other areas that's under budget. We've had a couple

[57:31] property purchases that was the majority of the reason for our budget request from Justin and

[57:40] again sometimes spending money is saving you lots of money years down the road and that's the

[57:48] reason we have purchased those properties and hopefully once the engineers are done we can then start

[57:57] having community sharets so that people can come and have an opinion on what we

[58:03] do with the Leitt building or how it's designed but those are the reasons for

[58:08] those it's not that we don't know how to do budgets it's just that again just

[58:13] like a household budget whether it's an emergency or an opportunity that changes

[58:18] your budget and that's why we come back before you all to ask for the approval but

[58:24] That's all I have, Mr. Mayor.

[58:26] Right, thank you.

[58:28] Again, thank all the staff for what they do every day.

[58:33] Again, I just give awesome a hard time,

[58:37] but again, I appreciate what you all do.

[58:40] Again, that's a job that I know is hard.

[58:45] And we're getting into the warm rainy season.

[58:48] And so, again, appreciate all that you do.

[58:51] and as we talked on Monday, a lot of the great work that parks and

[58:55] records doing to keep our community beautiful, looking good.

[59:01] I can appreciate them as well, but really all the departments and

[59:04] functions and I was talking to someone other day who had interactions on

[59:10] the, with the ladies up at the front and first thing they said is we are

[59:15] you know, great interaction, their new to the community,

[59:19] great interaction, and they were like,

[59:22] well, I probably won't go back again

[59:24] because now I know I can do it online.

[59:26] So, but anyway, they at least had the initial contact.

[59:30] So, again, appreciate what everyone does.

[59:33] So, again, thank you for that.

[59:35] If there's no other business before the council,

[59:41] I'll ask for a moment.

[59:42] I will say one thing, sir, kind of follow up

[59:44] what you just said. I always found going back to when Anne Sims made many years ago, and

[59:51] the former Mayor Powell made comment to us one time. He said, you don't know, the cordial

[59:57] a nice person out that she has with-

[1:00:00] I love it. It burns a lot of, it deflects a lot of problems away from us, but she handles. And I'm sure these ladies are in the same fashion as the hand ones back then. And, you know, this is right. Well, but I really remember. And, you know, probably a lot to be, you know, the kindness and the way these ladies up here, because I know when I come, how much they are, how much they are accustomed

[1:00:29] customers and so forth, when I may be waiting or something, and that takes a lot off of us in the way of unhappy citizens when these ladies in the community are coming up to it or just curious or whatever, and they leave smiling.

[1:00:47] That's right. It goes a long way.

[1:00:49] Absolutely.

[1:00:51] thank you for your comments anything else

[1:00:58] motion to adjourn motion is made is

[1:01:01] there a second motion may receive the second all those if they say aye aye any

[1:01:07] opposition you welcome the state I don't know how long but can make geeky out so

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