REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL - 10 Aug 2026

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[0:00] Very unique.
[0:01] >> That's a skill of an old truck driver
[0:03] » That's a skill of an old truck driver
[0:03] that I don't think they teach these
[0:04] days.
[0:05] >> No.
[0:06] » No.
[0:06] No.
[0:11] » [sighs]
[0:12] >> There's a lot of things they don't teach
[0:13] » There's a lot of things they don't teach
[0:13] these days because they could be You
[0:15] guys You guys probably have seen this
[0:17] truck that used to drive a teal
[0:19] Peterbilt that had a sign on the front
[0:20] that said truck naked.
[0:22] >> Oh.
[0:22] » Oh.
[0:23] >> And he would drive it with no shirt on.
[0:25] » And he would drive it with no shirt on.
[0:25] And he said it is amazing how many times
[0:27] crossing the border the guys would get
[0:28] climbed up and look at him.
[0:30] >> [laughter]
[0:33] » But he drove in bare feet.
[0:34] >> Yeah.
[0:35] » Yeah.
[0:35] >> And and like the inside of his truck was
[0:36] » And and like the inside of his truck was
[0:36] like his house and so
[0:38] >> That's That's fuel economy you could you
[0:40] » That's That's fuel economy you could you
[0:40] could ever get.
[0:41] >> Driving with bare feet.
[0:42] » Driving with bare feet.
[0:42] >> Take your shoes off when you go and come
[0:44] » Take your shoes off when you go and come
[0:44] in my house. So
[0:45] Yeah.
[0:46] >> That's my kind of guy.
[0:48] » That's my kind of guy.
[0:48] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[0:49] » Yeah. Yeah.
[0:49] >> At 7:00 I'm now going to call the
[0:51] » At 7:00 I'm now going to call the
[0:51] meeting to order. Um
[0:53] any additions to the agenda?
[0:56] Hearing none, so we wish to move on.
[0:58] >> Dwayne?
[1:00] » Dwayne?
[1:00] Pretty fast.
[1:01] >> Any discussion on Dwayne's motion?
[1:03] » Any discussion on Dwayne's motion?
[1:03] Hearing none, I'll call the question.
[1:05] Favor?
[1:06] Opposed? Seeing none, it's carried. So,
[1:09] council meeting of July 27th.
[1:13] Any errata, questions?
[1:16] >> I'll move that this be accepted.
[1:17] » I'll move that this be accepted.
[1:17] >> Okay. Judy moves them. Any discussion on
[1:20] » Okay. Judy moves them. Any discussion on
[1:20] Judy's motion?
[1:22] Hearing none, I'll call the question.
[1:23] Favor?
[1:24] Opposed? Seeing none, seeing none,
[1:26] carried.
[1:27] Okay, moving on to correspondence. There
[1:29] is Please review commission uh
[1:32] PRC quarterly report 2026 April, May,
[1:36] and June.
[1:37] Any questions on that one?
[1:41] » Interesting the number of uh
[1:44] things they're looking at.
[1:48] » Yeah, it's It's a good document. It's
[1:51] >> Um
[1:52] » Um
[1:52] and and again, it's like
[1:54] every document we get, sometimes it has
[1:56] a bit of a slant to it, but
[1:58] >> Yeah.
[1:59] » Yeah.
[1:59] >> But anyway, it's at least we get them,
[2:01] » But anyway, it's at least we get them,
[2:01] so.
[2:02] >> Yeah.
[2:03] » Yeah.
[2:03] >> If there's no questions on that one,
[2:04] » If there's no questions on that one,
[2:04] then we can move on to the next one,
[2:05] which is uh
[2:07] Council in Alberta proclamation request
[2:09] letter.
[2:12] » I look back and we haven't done this
[2:13] before, so this would be a new one if
[2:15] council's interested in doing so.
[2:18] If not, you can read it for your
[2:20] information.
[2:22] >> Okay. So, anybody have any strong
[2:24] » Okay. So, anybody have any strong
[2:25] desires to do anything with it at the
[2:26] moment or
[2:29] Okay, if not, we'll move on to ORS
[2:32] summer
[2:34] 2026 urban forest.
[2:36] >> This is Ryan's baby.
[2:38] » This is Ryan's baby.
[2:38] >> Yeah.
[2:43] Another, you know, great articles and
[2:45] >> Yeah.
[2:47] » Yeah.
[2:47] It's interesting there to talk about the
[2:49] uh
[2:51] the uh way that sunlight and the heat
[2:53] that's generated with from reflection
[2:56] and and absorption with um the roads and
[2:58] that and just how the shade makes that
[3:01] different. That's That was kind of
[3:02] interesting. I found that
[3:04] like
[3:05] I don't think anybody ever thinks about
[3:07] that, you know, how a the shade can I
[3:09] mean, you drive down a shaded tree road
[3:10] and it's it looks beautiful, but it sure
[3:12] does wonder if it helps your road. That
[3:14] That's kind of interesting.
[3:16] >> Yeah, we don't realize how much that
[3:18] » Yeah, we don't realize how much that
[3:18] canopy
[3:19] absorbs and also reflects and reflects
[3:22] >> It's really nice. ORS does some really
[3:23] » It's really nice. ORS does some really
[3:23] good articles. This one Uh again, we've
[3:25] done some that don't
[3:27] pertain to us 100%, but this one
[3:30] uh truly fits into our
[3:31] our urban forestry program.
[3:34] It's been around for a long time.
[3:37] >> Mr. Mayor.
[3:37] » Mr. Mayor.
[3:37] >> Go ahead, counselor.
[3:38] » Go ahead, counselor.
[3:38] >> Uh with with this uh tree
[3:41] » Uh with with this uh tree
[3:41] Pardon [clears throat] me, tree
[3:42] replacement program.
[3:44] Is there uh
[3:46] a process where they look at the trees
[3:48] and what they can produce in
[3:51] oxygen and absorb it carbon dioxide.
[3:54] Like is it a broadleaf type of plant or
[3:57] have they worked with something along
[3:59] this lines that
[4:01] >> Yeah, so
[4:02] » Yeah, so
[4:02] to that
[4:03] where we used to put in others things
[4:05] like that the fast growth. We've
[4:07] actually gone back to
[4:10] ornamentals because of the the amount of
[4:12] leaves they have the amount of fill
[4:14] those sort of things. So and in Stu's
[4:16] program that he's changed since when I
[4:19] was doing it. He's actually gone to the
[4:21] point now where we do the hazard
[4:23] assessment and he is
[4:26] basically splitting his funds to do
[4:29] half of what it does
[4:32] removal and now the other half is doing
[4:34] replacement. So and we actually mostly
[4:36] on the ornamental
[4:37] >> But are there I guess my question is
[4:40] » But are there I guess my question is
[4:40] what is the
[4:41] best benefit on replanting a tree
[4:45] in
[4:46] um
[4:48] helping stop global weather absorbing
[4:51] the carbon dioxide and and producing
[4:55] large amounts of oxygen yet they're not
[4:58] draining the soil of large amounts of of
[5:00] moisture and that kind of thing. Is that
[5:02] being looked at or
[5:04] should it be something that we marry up
[5:06] with a a university?
[5:08] >> Yeah and I I can ask that question. I do
[5:11] » Yeah and I I can ask that question. I do
[5:11] know that Cortez does do some of that
[5:14] consideration and he works with Stu on
[5:16] recommendations for but I'm not 100%
[5:19] sure if they if they
[5:20] looking
[5:21] at the climate
[5:24] benefits from what they're putting in.
[5:26] >> No, it's definitely probably a question
[5:29] » No, it's definitely probably a question
[5:29] that should be asked and should be
[5:32] considered because
[5:33] >> Yeah and I think that might be one
[5:34] » Yeah and I think that might be one
[5:34] advantage of going with somebody that's
[5:36] an arborist compared to somebody that's
[5:38] just a
[5:39] >> chainsaw
[5:40] » chainsaw
[5:40] >> tree trimmer you know type thing.
[5:42] » tree trimmer you know type thing.
[5:42] Not to knock the tree trimmers cuz a lot
[5:44] of them have a a of smarts that
[5:46] direction, but
[5:48] on Arborist I would assume have a better
[5:52] relationship with the what's
[5:54] environmental side.
[5:55] >> On maybe not maybe not in the exact how
[5:58] » On maybe not maybe not in the exact how
[5:58] much energy they uh
[6:01] are the carbon dioxide side compared to
[6:05] the but on the other hand, you know,
[6:07] what grows right in
[6:09] in this arid land or
[6:11] >> Well, I mean you made the comment, sir,
[6:13] » Well, I mean you made the comment, sir,
[6:13] about the shade.
[6:14] >> Yeah.
[6:14] » Yeah.
[6:14] >> Yeah. How and it is quite a difference
[6:16] » Yeah. How and it is quite a difference
[6:17] between being out on asphalt that is in
[6:19] the blazing sun and under a shade tree
[6:22] on the asphalt.
[6:23] >> On the other hand, that is happy.
[6:25] » On the other hand, that is happy.
[6:25] >> Yeah.
[6:25] » Yeah.
[6:25] >> It's usually 10%.
[6:27] » It's usually 10%.
[6:27] >> Yeah.
[6:27] » Yeah.
[6:27] >> 10° issue.
[6:28] » 10° issue.
[6:28] >> Yeah.
[6:28] » Yeah.
[6:28] >> So it's 10°.
[6:30] » So it's 10°.
[6:30] >> Yeah.
[6:30] » Yeah.
[6:30] >> But anyway,
[6:31] » But anyway,
[6:31] you can
[6:33] >> It is an interesting read.
[6:34] » It is an interesting read.
[6:34] >> Yeah. It is a good read. I'm I'm not
[6:36] » Yeah. It is a good read. I'm I'm not
[6:36] sure how much do you share this with
[6:38] like one with any of our staff or
[6:40] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[6:41] » Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[6:41] >> Okay.
[6:42] » Okay.
[6:42] >> They have the same agenda you guys do.
[6:44] » They have the same agenda you guys do.
[6:44] >> Okay.
[6:45] » Okay.
[6:45] >> Don't vote on anything.
[6:47] » Don't vote on anything.
[6:47] >> Okay.
[6:49] » Okay.
[6:49] Any other discussion on that?
[6:51] Any of those three?
[6:53] If not, I entertain a motion.
[6:55] >> Richard.
[6:58] You're next.
[6:58] >> Any discussion on Richard's motion?
[7:01] » Any discussion on Richard's motion?
[7:01] Hearing none, call question.
[7:03] Close. Hearing none, it's carried. Okay,
[7:06] moving on to cash statement
[7:09] for July.
[7:11] >> Now,
[7:12] » Now,
[7:12] >> So,
[7:12] » So,
[7:12] our
[7:13] general bank account didn't have a whole
[7:15] bunch of money left in it by the end of
[7:17] July, but our uh
[7:19] our savings accounts obviously
[7:21] balance between the
[7:22] as you know, transfer out as we need to.
[7:26] Yeah.
[7:27] >> Okay. Any questions on that one?
[7:30] » Okay. Any questions on that one?
[7:30] If not, somebody wish to move on? Chris.
[7:34] >> I'll second for Richard.
[7:36] » I'll second for Richard.
[7:36] >> Any question on Chris's motion?
[7:39] » Any question on Chris's motion?
[7:39] Hearing none, I'll call question. Favor?
[7:41] Close. Hearing none, it's carried. Okay,
[7:44] you have a
[7:45] >> statement.
[7:47] » statement.
[7:47] >> This is pretty straightforward.
[7:49] » This is pretty straightforward.
[7:49] Again, the reason why you're seeing this
[7:51] at this meeting and not because we don't
[7:52] have a meeting in August. So, you just
[7:54] saw the one from from June. So, you have
[7:56] a
[7:57] very fresh comparison between June and
[7:59] July. There's nothing there that uh
[8:03] stands out to myself. But, if there's
[8:05] something that you guys have questions
[8:06] on, we're happy to answer.
[8:12] » Okay.
[8:13] If not, somebody wish to move
[8:16] Chris again.
[8:19] Any discussion on Chris's motion?
[8:22] Hearing and seeing none, I'll call
[8:23] questions posed. All in favor, sorry.
[8:27] >> All in favor.
[8:28] » All in favor.
[8:28] >> [laughter]
[8:28] » [laughter]
[8:28] >> Anyone opposed?
[8:30] » Anyone opposed?
[8:30] >> I just about wrote opposed on it.
[8:31] » I just about wrote opposed on it.
[8:31] >> That's the problem with uh Zoom.
[8:34] » That's the problem with uh Zoom.
[8:34] >> [laughter]
[8:36] » [laughter]
[8:36] >> They always ask for who's opposed, not
[8:38] » They always ask for who's opposed, not
[8:38] >> Yeah, who's in favor.
[8:40] » Yeah, who's in favor.
[8:40] >> Okay, moving on to the uh
[8:44] » Okay, moving on to the uh
[8:44] current business.
[8:46] ORSCA membership agreement. So,
[8:49] >> So, this is uh fairly straightforward.
[8:51] » So, this is uh fairly straightforward.
[8:51] ORSCA's been working on this. They have
[8:52] a new CAO.
[8:54] Uh I'm sure that uh
[8:57] uh Councillor Bolt heard a lot about
[8:59] this in the last few meetings. And one
[9:02] of the reasons why they're working on
[9:03] membership services agreement is uh I
[9:06] looked at our last one we signed, it was
[9:07] 1994.
[9:09] So, having a more robust that actually
[9:12] uh covers all of the things that they do
[9:13] cuz since that time, obviously, we do
[9:15] subdivision appeal board, all of those
[9:17] things that you can see in the
[9:19] appendices there.
[9:20] So, I don't review of it. Uh again,
[9:24] Councillor Bolt's kept us informed that
[9:25] they're changing uh
[9:27] uh the model for the uh
[9:29] the membership fees to actually have a
[9:31] cost of living increase. So, they're not
[9:33] actually
[9:35] uh uh,
[9:36] waiting several years and then coming
[9:38] with a with a large uh change, so
[9:41] uh, that I think is very positive. Like,
[9:44] we've been doing that ourselves and it's
[9:46] factoring in cost increases, so
[9:49] uh, other than that, it's uh,
[9:51] I think it'll meet both our needs and as
[9:54] long as ORSC
[9:55] gains its members to
[9:57] keep It's a huge benefit to us that
[10:01] doing our planning, so
[10:02] >> Chris, go ahead.
[10:03] » Chris, go ahead.
[10:03] >> I I've enjoyed uh,
[10:05] » I I've enjoyed uh,
[10:05] you know, Katie and ORSC and she's been
[10:07] extremely helpful and willing to educate
[10:10] and things.
[10:11] Um, but the uh, like the county, they're
[10:15] not continuing their relationship,
[10:16] right? Is that Is that correct?
[10:18] >> I'm not sure if they're uh, but they are
[10:20] » I'm not sure if they're uh, but they are
[10:20] in hiring an internal planner right now.
[10:23] I don't know what that means with their
[10:24] membership in ORSC in future.
[10:26] >> Okay. Okay.
[10:27] » Okay. Okay.
[10:27] >> There There are a lot of municipalities
[10:29] » There There are a lot of municipalities
[10:29] that have gone way from
[10:32] groups like ORSC because they get big
[10:34] enough that they feel that they can do
[10:37] it internally and still meet the
[10:39] criteria.
[10:40] >> Okay.
[10:40] » Okay.
[10:40] >> The The only downfall of that is is it
[10:43] » The The only downfall of that is is it
[10:43] creates other issues of of uh,
[10:47] um, common
[10:49] direction that goes The The manager of
[10:51] ORSC as an example of representing, you
[10:53] know, 40 or 50 municipalities, if one
[10:56] has something that comes up, you know,
[10:58] the rest of them kind of find out about
[11:00] it right away. Whereas, when you start
[11:02] doing your independent work, then all of
[11:04] a sudden you kind of get built into that
[11:06] little silo type of This is Tom Grant's
[11:09] opinion, a silo philosophy where you
[11:11] think you can do your own thing and then
[11:13] when something goes south,
[11:15] then all of a sudden
[11:16] you're in deep trouble there.
[11:18] >> One of the best examples for that for us
[11:21] » One of the best examples for that for us
[11:21] was when the province
[11:24] deregulated
[11:25] marijuana.
[11:26] Uh,
[11:27] locally, we didn't think it was a big
[11:28] issue and it was ORSC saying, you know,
[11:30] you need to get every use by law up to
[11:33] date on this cuz it's coming.
[11:35] And we all thought, "Nah, not here."
[11:37] And sure enough, we did our land use by
[11:39] law and within a year we had an
[11:41] obligation. So, we were prepared. So,
[11:42] that's that's a benefit of
[11:45] You know, and and having that
[11:46] >> Yeah, you know, C-cans and solar and and
[11:51] » Yeah, you know, C-cans and solar and and
[11:51] >> encroachments
[11:52] » encroachments
[11:52] >> encroachments and
[11:53] » encroachments and
[11:53] and all these other things that come,
[11:55] you know, um you know, with them. And
[11:59] you know, and and that's what MPC deals
[12:01] with a lot um
[12:02] is the C-cans and uh and the uh you
[12:05] know, solar. We we realized that there
[12:07] is ways around still keeping a finger on
[12:10] that tab, but yet
[12:12] allowing your people to do more work.
[12:14] And and it came about because of other
[12:17] municipalities that have had the same
[12:19] issues. So, um
[12:20] >> I also like the consistency because if
[12:23] » I also like the consistency because if
[12:23] they quit, then we got to get back
[12:25] online with somebody else. So, I think
[12:27] having the
[12:28] the people that we know and trust
[12:30] >> Mhm.
[12:30] » Mhm.
[12:30] >> [clears throat]
[12:30] » [clears throat]
[12:30] >> that you know they're going to be there.
[12:32] » that you know they're going to be there.
[12:33] >> But yeah, you know, it it is a it is a
[12:34] » But yeah, you know, it it is a it is a
[12:34] very common thing. You hear about it all
[12:37] over. Um lots of groups like you mean I
[12:39] I brought up at a different meeting that
[12:41] I think, you know, like
[12:43] uh South Grove, I think it's going to be
[12:44] the next one that's going to come. I
[12:46] mean, we saw it with the Badlands.
[12:48] Um I think Julie, you were involved and
[12:50] maybe
[12:50] >> Yes.
[12:51] » Yes.
[12:51] >> Dwayne was involved a little bit with
[12:52] » Dwayne was involved a little bit with
[12:52] the Badlands um organization and they
[12:55] did
[12:56] wonderful work for our municipalities
[12:58] and
[12:59] you know, all of a sudden a couple of
[13:00] them pull and then your finances get to
[13:03] the point where you can't afford to stay
[13:04] alive.
[13:05] Um
[13:06] and again, I like I had said at that one
[13:08] meeting, too, is a a good agreement is
[13:10] you talks about the pre-nup and that's
[13:13] what's, you know, in this one here is
[13:15] they really talked about how to get out
[13:17] of town.
[13:18] And and it really is important not to
[13:19] say that, you know, that should be your
[13:22] but again, quite often you're in that
[13:24] honeymoon phase and you think everything
[13:26] is perfect and you don't think about if
[13:28] something goes south or something goes
[13:30] bad, how how you get out. And they have
[13:32] addressed that in this in this draft
[13:35] proposal.
[13:36] Which I do appreciate. I'm not saying
[13:38] that it's something a person should, you
[13:39] know, put a lot of highlight on on one
[13:41] hand, but on the other hand, it is
[13:43] really important because now all of a
[13:45] sudden when an organization needs to
[13:48] disband or do something with it, when
[13:51] you don't have those in there that are
[13:53] tight, then it really leaves the rest of
[13:55] them
[13:56] holding the bag for a period of time.
[13:58] >> You think Tracy's um
[14:01] » You think Tracy's um
[14:01] very astute in when she writes her
[14:03] agreements. I think she dots her eyes,
[14:04] crosses her tees very well. Um one thing
[14:07] about Worsk is um
[14:09] I've noticed over the years is
[14:11] um how they bring along planners
[14:14] out of school,
[14:15] get them going, you know, put them with
[14:17] a person like Katie, say for example,
[14:20] and she's there training, whatever, and
[14:24] they grow some very competent young
[14:26] planners. So, and
[14:29] with that youth comes some different
[14:31] ideas, and that kind of expands
[14:34] a building that looks like this to
[14:36] you know.
[14:37] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[14:38] » Yeah. Yeah.
[14:38] >> Cool.
[14:39] » Cool.
[14:39] >> Well, and even the little bit of
[14:40] » Well, and even the little bit of
[14:40] experience I have being on the appeal
[14:42] board with them, like
[14:44] I don't know how municipalities would
[14:46] function without them kind of monitoring
[14:48] it and kind of educating, you know,
[14:51] people that sit on the board
[14:53] and whatnot and how to combat some of
[14:54] these appeals, like
[14:56] I think it probably saves a lot of money
[14:58] in court settlements and things like
[15:00] that.
[15:00] >> Yeah.
[15:03] » Yeah.
[15:03] >> And you had a question or comment?
[15:04] » And you had a question or comment?
[15:04] >> No.
[15:05] » No.
[15:05] >> No, just just the benefits of it. At uh
[15:08] » No, just just the benefits of it. At uh
[15:08] Richard's point about the young
[15:09] planners, we also have the benefit of
[15:11] Gavin,
[15:12] >> Yeah.
[15:12] » Yeah.
[15:12] >> who was our planner before Katie, and
[15:15] » who was our planner before Katie, and
[15:15] he's got he's been as long as I've been
[15:17] here, so he's got 20, 30 years
[15:19] experience
[15:21] giving reference to all of our planning
[15:23] documents.
[15:24] >> Yeah, he has his finger on every one of
[15:26] » Yeah, he has his finger on every one of
[15:26] them.
[15:26] >> From through our
[15:27] » From through our
[15:27] inter-municipal development plan to our
[15:30] development plan, like it's that's the
[15:33] real benefit of being small enough that
[15:35] we couldn't do that in the Arman way but
[15:38] with grant funding trying to get these
[15:40] documents done where even the smaller
[15:43] like the villages and that, they have
[15:44] the consistency and they're able to
[15:46] adjust their land use bylaws.
[15:49] The same as ours or there's a lot of
[15:51] consistency that comes with being
[15:53] members of ours. So, that's why when
[15:55] they brought the agreement I went back
[15:57] and looked at the other one, updates it
[15:58] completely so yeah.
[16:01] They My recommendation is to
[16:04] >> Well, I guess I'll I'd like to make the
[16:05] » Well, I guess I'll I'd like to make the
[16:05] recommendation that council approves
[16:08] uh the town of Vulcan enter into a new
[16:10] membership service agreement with the
[16:12] Oldman River
[16:13] Regional Service Commission and direct
[16:15] CAO and mayor to execute the agreement
[16:17] on behalf of the town.
[16:19] >> Okay.
[16:20] » Okay.
[16:20] Any
[16:22] discussion on goals and motion?
[16:25] Hearing none, I'll call the question. Is
[16:26] there a mover?
[16:28] Those saying yes, carried unanimously.
[16:30] Great, thank you. We'll move on to the
[16:33] wind mitigation proposal for the
[16:35] multi-sports courts.
[16:38] >> So, everybody got a chance to read the
[16:39] » So, everybody got a chance to read the
[16:39] report. The pickleball club
[16:43] some days in there apparently through
[16:45] that court wind can affect that
[16:46] lightweight ball that they have.
[16:48] Of course, we know the wind isn't going
[16:50] to go away so they're looking for
[16:51] something to do differently. They
[16:52] volunteered to buy some
[16:55] screens put down and they all will be
[16:58] zip tied through grommets to the fence.
[17:01] We as you can see by the report we sent
[17:02] it off to our engineers that actually
[17:04] put the fence up, but inspect it and
[17:07] they didn't have an issue with it so
[17:09] uh
[17:10] concern from the public works side is if
[17:13] they put it up, is this going to be ours
[17:15] to take care of till the end of time, so
[17:17] that's why the motion being that uh we
[17:20] they take them and put them up and down
[17:21] annually and in coordination with public
[17:24] works. So, they're not covering a gate
[17:25] or something like
[17:28] >> Yeah, I think that's a good point that
[17:30] » Yeah, I think that's a good point that
[17:30] potentially should probably be removed
[17:32] in the wintertime.
[17:34] But,
[17:35] you know, unfortunately
[17:37] even though we write it into here, you
[17:39] know, we'll be responsible like all the
[17:41] other assets that we have in the
[17:43] community that are looked at by other
[17:45] groups and
[17:47] um
[17:48] participated by other groups that it
[17:50] sooner or later becomes ours anyway, so
[17:52] it's good thing you looked into making
[17:54] sure that
[17:55] it's not going to
[17:56] >> They're responsible for
[17:57] » They're responsible for
[17:57] >> hinder our our structures that's there,
[18:00] » hinder our our structures that's there,
[18:00] so but
[18:01] anyway, it's quite self-explanatory.
[18:03] It's no cost to us right at the moment.
[18:06] Judy?
[18:07] >> I'll make the recommendation that
[18:08] » I'll make the recommendation that
[18:08] council approves the Vulcan Pickleball
[18:10] Club's request to install lightweight
[18:12] wind screens at the Memorial Park sports
[18:15] courts and that the club be responsible
[18:17] for the annual installation and removal
[18:19] of the screens in coordination with
[18:21] public works.
[18:22] >> Great. Thank you.
[18:23] » Great. Thank you.
[18:23] Any questions on Judy's motion?
[18:27] Hearing none, call the question. All in
[18:28] favor?
[18:29] Opposed? It's carried unanimously. Okay,
[18:32] Vulcan Evangelical Missionary Church
[18:34] request.
[18:35] >> Uh
[18:36] » Uh
[18:36] the church came in and they worked
[18:37] through this proposal with Chris, so
[18:39] they didn't actually do a formal letter,
[18:41] but they're planning on holding an event
[18:43] block party attached to the building on
[18:45] the side of the building. Everything's
[18:46] in the report, but one thing they would
[18:47] like to do is
[18:49] close that avenue for their event. It's
[18:51] from [snorts] Centre Street to the back
[18:52] alley. They're going to talk to the
[18:54] neighbor across the street, so that's
[18:55] the only one that would be affected
[18:56] because they have a driveway there, so
[18:58] they might have to
[18:59] block it off so that the driveway is
[19:01] still accessible, but they, you know,
[19:02] work through that.
[19:04] What they're asking for from council is
[19:06] support to close the road
[19:08] uh
[19:08] on that day.
[19:10] Again, another community event that is
[19:12] open to the public, so.
[19:14] >> Okay. Richard.
[19:16] » Okay. Richard.
[19:16] >> I'll make a recommendation that council
[19:18] » I'll make a recommendation that council
[19:18] approve the event, Vulcan Evangelical
[19:20] Church request for temporary street
[19:22] street closure of 6th Avenue South to
[19:25] South to Center Street to the alley
[19:26] behind the church on Friday, September
[19:28] 25th from 5:00 p.m. to
[19:31] 9:00 p.m. 5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. to
[19:33] accommodate their block party event.
[19:36] Tongue's getting in the way.
[19:38] >> Okay, easy for you to say.
[19:40] » Okay, easy for you to say.
[19:40] >> [laughter]
[19:41] » [laughter]
[19:41] >> Any questions on Richard's motion?
[19:44] » Any questions on Richard's motion?
[19:44] Hearing none, we'll call the question.
[19:46] All in favor?
[19:47] Opposed? It's carried unanimously.
[19:49] Okay, commercial development incentive
[19:52] application PL-12.26-03.
[19:56] » So, this one's very straightforward.
[19:58] This uh yeah, obviously came after the
[20:00] deadline for this year's taxes, but it's
[20:02] uh for development in the industrial
[20:04] subdivision and uh
[20:07] yeah, it uh it meets all the criteria.
[20:09] It's been reviewed by the development
[20:11] officer
[20:12] submitted to council for approval. As
[20:14] you know, if you approve of it now, we
[20:16] still bring it back every year after you
[20:19] pass the mill rate to just make sure
[20:20] that you allocate the right dollar
[20:22] amounts to them.
[20:24] And it's obviously working. This is
[20:27] uh
[20:28] You guys don't know this, but the the
[20:30] end number is how many applications we
[20:31] do in a year. So, this is our third one
[20:33] this year, which is really promising.
[20:36] >> Okay. Any
[20:37] » Okay. Any
[20:37] >> I'll make the recommendation that
[20:39] » I'll make the recommendation that
[20:39] council approve the commercial
[20:41] development incentive application
[20:44] PL-12.26.03
[20:48] as presented.
[20:49] >> Great. Thank you. Any discussion on
[20:54] » Great. Thank you. Any discussion on
[20:54] Dwayne's motion?
[20:55] Hearing none, we'll call the question.
[20:57] All in favor? Opposed? Seeing none, it's
[21:00] carried unanimously.
[21:01] Okay, now moving on to committee
[21:03] reports. We have
[21:05] Markus Foundation draft minutes of July
[21:08] 28th.
[21:11] » Of note, I I do want to note that
[21:15] the Marcus Foundation always sends us
[21:17] their finalized minutes as well, but
[21:19] we've already reviewed the drafts. So,
[21:21] this one we actually received the one
[21:24] formal, but I didn't put them on the
[21:25] agenda cuz we already reviewed the
[21:27] draft.
[21:28] >> And I would like to say thank the
[21:29] » And I would like to say thank the
[21:29] secretary for sending us the drafts
[21:32] cuz they're much more timely.
[21:34] >> Yeah.
[21:35] » Yeah.
[21:35] >> Especially with what's going on.
[21:36] » Especially with what's going on.
[21:36] >> And I I think that's you know, we we've
[21:38] » And I I think that's you know, we we've
[21:38] talked about that in the past that we're
[21:39] fortunate quite often to have draft
[21:42] minutes from different organizations and
[21:44] this
[21:46] comes back to the people that are
[21:48] representing us at that organization and
[21:50] also to
[21:53] to that organization to bring that
[21:55] forward to us so that we don't have to
[21:56] wait for months to get it before it's
[21:59] approved. And you know, even though you
[22:01] guys bring back verbal reports, it is
[22:03] nice to to see the
[22:05] printed one, too. So.
[22:07] Any questions on
[22:09] the Marcus Foundation
[22:11] minutes?
[22:13] Okay, if not, we'll move on to the
[22:16] Intermunicipal Development Plan
[22:17] Committee.
[22:21] » Again, the county I checked with the
[22:22] county and they were happy to provide
[22:24] this in draft because there is so much
[22:26] conversation around this piece. So, they
[22:28] were happy to supply the draft. And of
[22:30] course, we have done another meeting to
[22:31] approve the last minutes. That may be a
[22:33] while.
[22:35] >> [clears throat]
[22:36] » [clears throat]
[22:36] >> Okay, any questions on
[22:39] » Okay, any questions on
[22:39] either one of those two documents?
[22:42] If not, I
[22:44] entertain motion.
[22:46] Dwayne or sorry.
[22:49] >> I'm going to look at Dwayne and look at
[22:50] » I'm going to look at Dwayne and look at
[22:50] you.
[22:50] >> Well, I looked at Dwayne
[22:52] » Well, I looked at Dwayne
[22:52] >> I thought I thought you're braiding your
[22:53] » I thought I thought you're braiding your
[22:53] hair.
[22:54] >> You do.
[22:54] » You do.
[22:54] >> [laughter]
[22:55] » [laughter]
[22:55] >> Richard moved this. Sorry.
[22:58] I was looking at Dwayne and I saw
[23:00] Richard's hand in the air.
[23:02] >> Anyway, Richard moved this one. Any
[23:05] » Anyway, Richard moved this one. Any
[23:05] discussion on Richard's motion?
[23:07] >> Richard never called a question that was
[23:08] » Richard never called a question that was
[23:08] favored.
[23:09] >> Closed.
[23:11] » Closed.
[23:11] >> Richard moves it and for the minutes
[23:13] » Richard moves it and for the minutes
[23:13] Dwayne has better hair.
[23:18] » You do know that we're allowed to make
[23:20] comments in the minutes now, right?
[23:23] >> [laughter]
[23:23] » [laughter]
[23:23] >> No, we're not going to mention Tom.
[23:26] » No, we're not going to mention Tom.
[23:26] >> Moving on to counselor Sanderson.
[23:29] » Moving on to counselor Sanderson.
[23:29] >> On July 28th, I had the Marcus
[23:32] » On July 28th, I had the Marcus
[23:32] Foundation meeting as per what you saw
[23:34] on the agenda there. On July 30th, um
[23:38] we had building team of uh
[23:41] Kelly, Lori, and Judy.
[23:44] And M3 had Harmon and Breanne, and
[23:46] there's a new one there, Sulky. I can't
[23:48] remember [clears throat] She I don't
[23:48] think she's on there.
[23:50] And uh there's a lawyer meeting with uh
[23:52] Marco Morelli and Brian Wong. That's the
[23:56] county's lawyers that we're using for
[23:59] Marcus Foundation. Brian has worked with
[24:02] Chandos on a few projects, and so and he
[24:04] knows a lot of their head guys in
[24:06] Edmonton, which is where their head
[24:07] office is, and he advised that Chandos
[24:10] is a very reputable contractor, and he
[24:12] has full faith in them. Uh however,
[24:14] lawyers want to ensure that proper risk
[24:16] is assigned and ensure Marcus Foundation
[24:19] is protected. So, the risk allocation on
[24:23] Sean on Chandos contract right now is at
[24:25] 50% cap, and we require 100%, and Brian
[24:30] said this is not out of Well, it's not
[24:32] out of the
[24:33] ordinary to request 100% cap, so
[24:36] just to protect us. After Marcus
[24:38] Foundation takes over the building,
[24:41] Chandos has 1 year warranty on the
[24:43] workmanship workmanship, and we are
[24:46] going for 2 year warranty.
[24:48] Um there is 5 to
[24:50] 10 years depending on boilers and
[24:54] and other things [clears throat] that
[24:54] are on the warranty, so
[24:57] Marcus Foundation would have to deal
[24:58] with these suppliers after Shondells
[25:00] gets his phone.
[25:01] >> [snorts]
[25:01] » [snorts]
[25:01] >> And so therefore it's important that we
[25:02] » And so therefore it's important that we
[25:02] do a full review on the property after 1
[25:05] year. We'll probably do it
[25:07] with that 2 years. We'll do it after the
[25:08] 2 years. Make sure that Shondells
[25:10] satisfied with everything there.
[25:13] I've got a fog light bulb.
[25:17] Um
[25:18] CMHC requirement that there is a 50%
[25:21] builders lien assuring company will make
[25:24] sure that the build bill gets done
[25:26] if for some reason Shondells leaves the
[25:28] project.
[25:29] Um next steps, uh Brian Quon's going to
[25:32] clean up the contract and send it to M3
[25:34] and then our lawyers will now deal with
[25:36] Shondells' lawyers. So that should be
[25:38] signed here pretty quickly.
[25:40] So that's good news. August 5th we had a
[25:43] design meeting at 9:00. Um that's when
[25:46] this Sophie girl from M3, she's further
[25:49] step now and she got she's getting our
[25:51] minutes a little bit quicker. I don't
[25:53] know if I sent them to you in time. So
[25:55] that's a lot quicker than what we
[25:56] normally get them. So I think that's a
[25:58] great thing that we We used to have
[26:00] three
[26:01] when we first started with M3.
[26:04] Um
[26:05] flooring will tender on
[26:07] Friday, so that probably was the last
[26:09] Friday here. Samples coming immediately
[26:12] with pricing and this goes to JMAA. The
[26:14] fireplace covering was selected by the
[26:17] building committee and Shondells is to
[26:19] finalize the cost of wiring in the
[26:22] electronics for the
[26:25] fogs.
[26:26] I really
[26:27] This is my personal opinion. I think
[26:29] it's too pricey and we're trying to cut
[26:32] a lot of money back and 300,000 so
[26:34] people can have fogs.
[26:36] This is my own personal thing, but
[26:38] that's a lot of money that we
[26:40] could use. I would rather have hardie on
[26:43] the outside of the building than vinyl.
[26:45] So that's my personal.
[26:48] Tom gave his opinion on that.
[26:50] So and Bill um was to finalize all his
[26:53] parts for the drawings. Um we need to
[26:55] finalize the exterior cameras needed to
[26:57] wanted. Uh JMAA said that usually they
[27:00] only have cameras at the front door.
[27:02] Glory would like to see cameras at all
[27:04] the exits and also for um
[27:07] the loading dock. And JMAA advised just
[27:11] about at the door for the loading dock.
[27:15] Loading dock.
[27:18] The uh would be sufficient for that, so
[27:21] Um we're going to have a meeting coming
[27:23] up
[27:25] next week.
[27:27] A lot of finalization coming up here.
[27:29] Corey has a sign ready to send to C M C
[27:32] and the government of Alberta see
[27:33] hopefully that'll get approved by both
[27:35] parties and then we can put a sign up on
[27:37] the site.
[27:39] Drawings for the building permit require
[27:41] stamp and all documents to Corey and
[27:43] then Corey sends to the town for
[27:45] approval. I know Kelly signed signed off
[27:47] with them, so I don't know if you guys
[27:49] got them yet, but they're everything's
[27:51] back at Corey right now, so those will
[27:53] be coming in soon.
[27:55] Um Chandos is to complete their
[27:57] financial accounting calendar.
[28:00] Uh noted that there's a savings on the
[28:02] generator cuz we don't need as large as
[28:04] one as we initially thought cuz they
[28:05] thought they were going to have
[28:07] some different um
[28:09] like with the self-contained that they
[28:11] were going to put them on a different
[28:12] draw, but they're not now, so we don't
[28:14] need
[28:16] as big a generator.
[28:17] Um electricity has come down and hoping
[28:20] for a further decline in cost cost.
[28:23] Switching uh the millwork and closets to
[28:26] wire shelving that'd be a 200,000
[28:28] savings, so we're nitpicking everything,
[28:30] but that's trying to
[28:32] to save money.
[28:33] Uh framing might be able to come down
[28:35] with the updated design. There's no more
[28:37] um patios on the self-contained
[28:40] units.
[28:42] Um and most of building will come in
[28:44] prefab, so it'll be a lot quicker to
[28:46] the one up here, cuz they'll all be done
[28:49] off-site. And IFTs, issues for tender,
[28:52] are closing on August 20th, and then the
[28:55] numbers become set numbers, and then we
[28:57] can reassess the budget again at that
[28:59] time.
[29:05] We've had more rejections for the
[29:07] mechanical work.
[29:09] So, Chandos are sending out more IFTs.
[29:12] They want three solid IFTs to come in
[29:15] for HVAC, plumbing, and irrigation. So,
[29:17] Chandos is going to do more leg work to
[29:19] get more competitive bids, and 85% of
[29:22] the job is self is subcontracted.
[29:26] Um mechanical has increased totally from
[29:29] what we initially had stated it would is
[29:32] 620,000.
[29:33] So, we're really hoping that with these
[29:35] bids getting locked in that we can bring
[29:36] that number down.
[29:38] Uh August 5th, I was at the joint
[29:41] meeting with county councilors
[29:43] concerning the potential new build.
[29:46] August 8th, I came home
[29:49] from being up at my parents, and I
[29:50] pulled into town,
[29:52] and at the truck station, there was all
[29:54] these Asians. I couldn't tell I was just
[29:57] They just caught my eye, cuz they're all
[29:58] draped posed, some up down through some
[30:01] of the letters. And they were all posed,
[30:04] and this photographer was there. So, I
[30:06] honked my horn, and I waved, and they
[30:07] were all
[30:09] So, I hope he got that picture, cuz it
[30:10] was
[30:11] It just They were just beaming, so it
[30:13] was
[30:14] kind of put a big smile on my face. Um
[30:17] Also, coming downtown, I don't know if
[30:19] I've ever come downtown on a Saturday
[30:21] unless we have something big like Spock
[30:23] Days, but it was busy. There was
[30:25] motorbikes, there was cars in every
[30:27] parking spot. There was people at the
[30:29] Spock.
[30:30] Um
[30:31] with his head and hands there, and it
[30:33] just was And the pool was full, and I
[30:35] just It just gave me a warm feeling to
[30:37] come into town and see all that activity
[30:39] this this past weekend, so.
[30:42] And then, tomorrow we have our MPC
[30:44] meeting.
[30:47] » Okay, any questions for Jean?
[30:50] >> If not,
[30:51] » If not,
[30:51] >> thank you very much. Councillor Debolt.
[30:53] » thank you very much. Councillor Debolt.
[30:53] >> Um, when I did the uh
[30:56] » Um, when I did the uh
[30:56] uh staff board and parade, me and
[30:58] Georgia Lee and Tom and Joan and um
[31:02] uh Rochelle and uh Mr. Spock from
[31:05] Germany was there and uh he was an
[31:07] interesting fellow that I spent some
[31:09] time with. Um,
[31:10] also a um
[31:12] uh was at the new uh Spock sign opening.
[31:15] Went on that with uh
[31:18] Tom and Joan and
[31:19] all people that were there for the Spock
[31:22] uh Vulcan. Um
[31:24] then on the 5th I had the um
[31:27] like Judy was talking about the joint
[31:29] meeting with the uh the council from uh
[31:31] the county about uh the new bill for a
[31:33] school. That was uh very interesting. Uh
[31:37] Some pretty uh
[31:41] one-sided opinions I thought. I thought
[31:43] maybe the right one for sure.
[31:44] >> [laughter]
[31:45] » [laughter]
[31:45] >> But uh we'll see how it all works out.
[31:47] » But uh we'll see how it all works out.
[31:47] Um
[31:48] early days yet, so um
[31:51] had uh one fellow asking me about uh the
[31:54] speed on the highway again and I and I
[31:57] said that it was talked about, so we
[32:00] had a conversation about that and
[32:03] so um
[32:05] uh
[32:06] the other person mentioned about how uh
[32:10] the uh town how clean the town is and um
[32:15] one of the stories from Vulcan night,
[32:17] jumped in Chris's truck. He was hauling
[32:19] three of them and
[32:20] and uh the one fellow he said uh I said
[32:23] uh where you from? And I think he said
[32:25] Indiana originally, but he says, "I've
[32:26] lived in LA for 30 years." And I said,
[32:30] "That's a big city." He said, "Yeah, I'm
[32:32] really enjoying this." He said,
[32:34] "I'm really [clears throat] enjoying
[32:35] that you can just drive and not wait for
[32:37] a hundred cars, you know? So, he said
[32:40] it's nice to get out of that big city,
[32:41] but uh they seem to be enjoying it. They
[32:44] they said they were really liking the
[32:45] town, so
[32:46] all in all it was good. That was about
[32:48] it for me, nothing uh too major.
[32:51] But, that's it.
[32:53] >> Okay. Any questions, Richard?
[32:56] » Okay. Any questions, Richard?
[32:56] No? Thank you. Councillor Mitchell.
[32:59] >> Uh
[33:00] » Uh
[33:00] I've had a
[33:01] a few discussions with Angela on the
[33:04] uh current business case, lands. Um
[33:07] she's had some progress with uh
[33:10] some of the with Oola's Eye um
[33:13] creating a few concept maps and
[33:16] different pieces to kind of develop the
[33:18] space the way that that she kind of
[33:20] envisions for it.
[33:22] Um so, I think uh she's reached a point
[33:26] where she can potentially start actually
[33:29] trying to
[33:30] get meetings and get in front of people
[33:32] and start start marketing with it. And
[33:35] so, she's asked Cole and I to uh
[33:38] authorize funds for payment for Oola's
[33:41] Eye and some for Marketeca.
[33:43] And
[33:44] Marketeca's the the company that's going
[33:46] to be doing the marketing, the website,
[33:49] and different things. So, so that's
[33:51] that's happening. So,
[33:54] which she's seems excited about and and
[33:57] gaining progress there. So, we'll see
[33:59] what happens.
[34:00] Um
[34:02] August 5th was busy. It was uh yeah,
[34:05] that that Palliser meeting um
[34:08] which uh like Richard said, it's early
[34:10] days and that is just
[34:12] it was it was it was interesting because
[34:14] the meeting with Palliser I found was
[34:17] quite good.
[34:19] And then with the meeting just on the
[34:21] 5th, it was
[34:23] well, we all really it was the the the
[34:26] feeling was that there wasn't a whole
[34:28] lot of excitement around joint use.
[34:31] And it seemed to resound
[34:35] confused [clears throat] me a little bit
[34:37] just because
[34:39] one, there's counselors that are like
[34:41] terrible costs and all costs and that
[34:43] makes sense.
[34:45] You know, you don't want to you know,
[34:47] have a huge cost center and but that's
[34:50] generally what
[34:52] you know, recreational facilities are in
[34:54] a way.
[34:56] Old Dale
[34:57] What?
[34:58] It's
[35:00] >> That's a heavy reader heavy hitter.
[35:02] » That's a heavy reader heavy hitter.
[35:02] >> Yeah.
[35:04] » Yeah.
[35:04] >> You can see.
[35:05] » You can see.
[35:05] >> So, I I guess
[35:07] » So, I I guess
[35:07] um
[35:09] what I'm trying to figure out is, okay,
[35:11] everything's around this Juba agreement.
[35:14] Right? And in the first meeting of
[35:16] council, when you you spoke with them, I
[35:19] asked them, okay,
[35:21] what what things with Old Dale
[35:24] if you could do it all over again, what
[35:25] would you do? And it was everything was
[35:27] around this Juba agreement and setting
[35:30] rent, having it transparent out there
[35:32] beforehand
[35:34] rather than kind of during the
[35:36] construction process.
[35:38] So,
[35:40] you know, if if we care about costs
[35:43] and we care about not having a super
[35:45] small facility, we kind of let them
[35:49] build their own school with a with a
[35:51] small gym and then,
[35:54] you know, say if
[35:55] we make a decision on the CRC, whatever
[35:57] that is,
[35:59] um it's going to be My feeling is it's
[36:01] going to be two small
[36:03] facilities.
[36:04] And then we share the full cost of one
[36:07] facility versus
[36:09] spending some time on the Juba
[36:11] agreement, having an expectation very
[36:13] clear on joint use
[36:15] and then building an actual facility
[36:18] that would be better together than
[36:22] separate entities.
[36:25] So, I don't know how we explore if
[36:28] that's even possible with with the other
[36:31] the county and and the town to come to a
[36:34] some sort of decision or how do you do
[36:36] you wait until the scoping meeting
[36:38] happens to see what they're even
[36:40] proposing?
[36:42] But then it sounds like we don't really
[36:43] have a choice anyway with with what they
[36:46] do.
[36:47] So, I guess I'm just trying to
[36:48] understand it all with
[36:51] the difference in tone versus
[36:53] first meeting second, so.
[36:55] I don't know if any you guys have any
[36:57] comment on with that.
[36:59] >> I think that dollars and cents are going
[37:01] » I think that dollars and cents are going
[37:01] to be a driving factor on either
[37:03] decision down the line for everybody.
[37:06] Like it's you heard it like it's
[37:09] Jason made a very good comment about
[37:11] you know, you can't afford to do it. You
[37:12] can't afford to do it. You know, it's
[37:14] just would be an anchor around the
[37:16] communities.
[37:17] You know, if it costs too much to
[37:19] maintain and run or build or whatever.
[37:21] You know, there's it's I think it's just
[37:24] a matter of dollars and cents and
[37:25] there's a lot of questions yet that
[37:27] come.
[37:28] I think.
[37:28] >> But the thing is if it's dollars and
[37:30] » But the thing is if it's dollars and
[37:30] cents then having it joint would make
[37:33] more sense than being separate, right?
[37:35] >> But that's exactly what they have to
[37:36] » But that's exactly what they have to
[37:36] figure out.
[37:37] >> They kind of want they want independence
[37:39] » They kind of want they want independence
[37:39] but they don't want to pay for both. So,
[37:41] it's kind of
[37:43] you can't have it both ways. So,
[37:46] how do you make it like it like Don
[37:49] wants it's a 75-year decision. It's a
[37:51] huge decision on a building.
[37:54] You know, we want to do we want to
[37:55] right-size it for the community and we
[37:57] want it to be something that we're we're
[38:00] better off going forward than we were
[38:03] in the past. We don't want to shrink our
[38:05] footprint.
[38:07] >> You know, I but
[38:08] » You know, I but
[38:08] it's going to be interesting. I think
[38:09] it's going to be very interesting but I
[38:13] there's a lot to come yet. I think.
[38:15] >> Oh, I know we're in very early innings
[38:17] » Oh, I know we're in very early innings
[38:17] for sure. So,
[38:19] I think
[38:19] >> [snorts]
[38:19] » [snorts]
[38:20] >> uh so yeah, and it was it was good to
[38:21] » uh so yeah, and it was it was good to
[38:21] get just
[38:23] just to, you know, listen and see what
[38:25] happens. But, yeah, it's early and
[38:28] the scoping meetings happened the third
[38:30] week of September.
[38:31] Um second meeting was uh the
[38:35] intermunicipal one, which I thought was
[38:38] a good working session. I think
[38:40] we're going to have those conversations
[38:42] a lot, I feel like, in the next
[38:45] several years. It's it's a topic of
[38:47] discussion.
[38:49] Um with data centers and and how you how
[38:52] you manage them when there's a a
[38:54] proposal and it's
[38:57] having, you know, establishing
[38:59] discretionary use and size and type and
[39:03] power usage and
[39:05] water and all those things. So, um I
[39:08] think it was it was really good and uh
[39:12] uh yeah. Um
[39:17] But, I just don't see those meetings
[39:19] kind of going away. It's just Okay, how
[39:20] do we communicate it
[39:22] and standardize it in our community on
[39:24] on what we want to see here. We want it
[39:26] done the right way if it happens. So,
[39:30] um yeah, but other than that, that's
[39:32] that's really it for me.
[39:34] >> Okay. Any questions for Chris?
[39:37] » Okay. Any questions for Chris?
[39:37] If not, thank you. Counselor Hill.
[39:39] >> I have no meetings.
[39:41] » I have no meetings.
[39:41] I've got nothing to update,
[39:42] unfortunately. I do apologize for
[39:44] missing the meeting on the 5th.
[39:46] Uh I have too many calendars and got to
[39:49] make sure. My apologies.
[39:51] >> Okay. Any questions for Wayne?
[39:54] » Okay. Any questions for Wayne?
[39:54] Hearing none, thank you. Counselor
[39:56] Donovan.
[39:56] >> Um I was at Palliser meeting
[39:59] » Um I was at Palliser meeting
[39:59] um with the majority of us, I guess. And
[40:01] I I really liked um the dialogue that
[40:04] happened that day.
[40:06] I think it was a good starting off
[40:07] point. Like Chris says, you
[40:10] a lot of this is out of our hands at
[40:11] this point. Palliser decides to do and
[40:13] then
[40:14] I guess it'll be on us or possibly the
[40:16] next council to kind of
[40:19] make the best decisions for ratepayers
[40:21] in this community after that, but um
[40:24] Um I also met with the county on August
[40:27] 5th
[40:28] and kind of like Chris, I was a little
[40:30] surprised at some of the
[40:32] conversations and direction potentially
[40:34] that
[40:35] county would prefer to go with
[40:37] so early, I guess. I guess it's a lot
[40:40] like Palliser and we'll see what comes
[40:42] of it.
[40:43] Um later that afternoon, I was with
[40:45] Chris at the IDP meeting and
[40:48] I really liked that meeting. I felt like
[40:50] the county was very cordial in giving us
[40:52] a voice.
[40:53] And I think in the past maybe it hasn't
[40:55] been that way, but um
[40:57] the topics that kind of affect our
[40:59] ratepayers on certain projects is sound
[41:02] decibel cap, which they were open to
[41:04] putting in.
[41:05] Um
[41:07] building size cap, uh water usage cap,
[41:09] power usage cap, um and even a location
[41:12] preference where potentially something
[41:15] like this could happen on the eastern
[41:17] lots where they're not necessarily
[41:18] neighboring potential residentials. So
[41:20] that's why I was I thought it was really
[41:22] good discussion there
[41:23] for that.
[41:25] Um
[41:26] Yeah, that was it on the minutes.
[41:30] >> Okay.
[41:30] » Okay.
[41:30] Any questions for Cole?
[41:33] Great. Thank you. [clears throat] And
[41:35] for me, um
[41:37] I too have attended the parade in
[41:38] Strathmore. It was It was nice. It was a
[41:42] great opportunity to showcase our
[41:45] um
[41:46] float again in the parade. That's the
[41:47] second time we've been in Strathmore and
[41:49] um
[41:51] I heard some good things about the
[41:53] uh again
[41:54] uh Chris purchased a canvas and and
[41:58] there was again
[42:02] our local announcer
[42:04] and he
[42:05] >> [clears throat]
[42:05] » [clears throat]
[42:05] >> um
[42:06] » um
[42:06] did a good job of plugging this
[42:09] us for as much as he could
[42:11] and some so I I heard that was very very
[42:14] positive. Um I too was at the meeting
[42:17] with the county and I I
[42:19] agree with what Cole said. It was really
[42:21] kind of nice to
[42:22] hear the their
[42:25] uh opinions of their council around the
[42:27] table. I mean, they had a good
[42:29] representation at the meeting that we
[42:31] had and
[42:32] and uh
[42:33] you know, they were just missing one
[42:34] counselor, I believe. And so it it was
[42:37] good to hear and um
[42:39] I I again I think I think what Chris had
[42:41] said, you know, um
[42:42] as we move forward, we we definitely
[42:44] know that it's the the new facility will
[42:47] be if there is a new building, it'll be
[42:49] downsized. I mean,
[42:50] you know, and you know, whether it's
[42:53] downsized to a right size or whether
[42:55] it's downsized to a
[42:57] to a to whatever it happens to be is
[42:59] something we have no control over, but I
[43:02] think moving forward, you know, we need
[43:04] to kind of anticipate the
[43:06] if there is a chance that the CRC and
[43:09] the bodyworks is saved, you know,
[43:13] what what that would look like and how.
[43:15] So, I I think when we have that meeting
[43:16] with Stantec, we need to bring that, but
[43:19] being that there's a couple
[43:21] uh young counselors and on our three of
[43:24] them on our
[43:25] council here that you know, have uh kids
[43:28] in this will have kids in the system,
[43:30] you know, your your input is important
[43:33] um because
[43:34] um unfortunately,
[43:36] something we really need to do as a
[43:38] municipality is is support our our youth
[43:40] in our community, but also
[43:42] we need to, you know, support Palliser
[43:45] in what they're proposing to to try to
[43:47] make it an economical facility and not
[43:50] be one that's going to be closed and
[43:51] not,
[43:53] you know, I I think there is some
[43:54] opportunity that they could
[43:57] uh add on to the Prairie Vista
[44:01] and move all the kids into one facility
[44:03] and I I think that would be a detriment
[44:05] to our our
[44:07] junior, younger
[44:09] generation. I think the separation just
[44:12] shows that there's huge advantages to
[44:14] it. So,
[44:15] that's just a personal feeling. I mean,
[44:17] I I I spent all 12 years in the two
[44:20] facilities, one with the elementary
[44:22] school and then the high school.
[44:25] But, uh
[44:26] I think there's advantages to the
[44:28] separation of the of the two.
[44:30] So, um I think when we get an
[44:32] opportunity that we have coming up to
[44:35] voice our
[44:36] our comments to Stantec.
[44:39] And uh or I think it was Stantec, wasn't
[44:41] it? It's not I was going to say Stantec
[44:42] too, but I mean it was Stantec. And, you
[44:44] know, see what they're going to
[44:46] talk about. But, again too, is that
[44:49] knowing that, you know, the
[44:51] direction that some of us feel that, you
[44:53] know, we don't want to lose the track if
[44:55] we can in the community. Um
[44:58] and we don't want to lose the uh you
[45:00] know, ball diamond area. And, you know,
[45:02] there is an area that maybe we could
[45:05] potentially really push them into into
[45:07] that that one corner if it happens where
[45:09] they
[45:10] could utilize the corner where the
[45:12] element the um
[45:13] daycare's at. And, infrastructure-wise
[45:16] for us as a municipality, it's got huge
[45:18] advantages. So, I think those are areas
[45:21] that our munis our administration and
[45:23] our public works and and uh
[45:26] you know, some of us that have that
[45:27] knowledge should, you know, push it
[45:29] towards the to say that there's
[45:31] advantages to that. Um we might have to
[45:34] contemplate
[45:35] a philosophy of of upgrading that road
[45:38] behind the arena between the arena and
[45:40] the and, you know, to to accommodate a
[45:44] a different type of traffic or a
[45:46] traffic. Um we know that um
[45:49] transportation has been kind enough to
[45:52] the Marcus Foundation to allow them to
[45:54] have that Anders intersection there. It
[45:56] might be an opportunity to say that, you
[45:58] know, here's a way that we can
[46:00] put a couple turning lanes off of that
[46:03] on into that area of the
[46:06] the Palliser facility and also into into
[46:10] the Pier de Soulanges make kind of a
[46:12] turning lanes in there and and create
[46:14] that as more of a
[46:16] theoretically a better
[46:18] turning spot. But I mean, that's just a
[46:20] Tom Grant's opinion. I you know, I
[46:22] appreciate we haven't really spoke about
[46:23] it much, but but again, I think that
[46:24] those are things that we need to really
[46:26] share with with Palliser and with
[46:28] Stantec and and the county because
[46:31] again, I don't know what the percentage
[46:33] of of the
[46:34] rural ratepayers
[46:36] um
[46:38] or not rural ratepayers, but but rural
[46:40] residents uh students in the CCHHS. But
[46:44] I'm sure that they outnumber our town
[46:47] ones probably at least two to one, maybe
[46:50] three to one.
[46:52] I I I'm guessing. I I
[46:53] I don't know because you know, we get
[46:55] you know, Arrowwood, Milo
[46:57] um you know, everybody but the Lomond
[47:01] that that come potentially come this way
[47:03] for senior high and junior high or
[47:05] senior college especially. So
[47:08] again, I I think that you know, the
[47:09] county needs to be at the table and and
[47:12] I think you know, should sharing
[47:14] meetings like we had with them, being
[47:16] open and
[47:17] transparent and
[47:18] um
[47:19] anyway, I I thought it was great, but so
[47:21] those are the two meetings that I had or
[47:23] two functions that I had was that parade
[47:25] and and then the the meeting with the
[47:27] county council, so.
[47:29] >> Any more questions?
[47:30] » Any more questions?
[47:30] >> Yeah, one two
[47:32] » Yeah, one two
[47:32] >> Where the school is now, if they were to
[47:34] » Where the school is now, if they were to
[47:34] put it in that corner that you
[47:35] suggested, that would give them so much
[47:37] more parking cuz there's kids all over
[47:39] the streets, so that would be so much
[47:41] handier to get the kids off the streets
[47:43] and in the parking lot.
[47:44] >> And again, Christopher's uh
[47:46] » And again, Christopher's uh
[47:46] Northcott's uh
[47:48] thought about, you know, land swapping
[47:49] or trading or whatever has its merits,
[47:52] but I mean, generally, you know, like I
[47:54] said, If you really read the
[47:57] uh municipal act,
[47:59] there's no swapping that's potentially
[48:01] going to go on that's going to be a land
[48:03] take. You got to swap it. But again, it
[48:05] might be something like you said, Jimmy,
[48:07] you know, depending on how that
[48:10] plan might go where the CRC could be a
[48:13] standalone facility with body works and
[48:16] even like I'm not sure if it was
[48:17] mentioned by
[48:19] one of us or whether it was some of them
[48:21] from the county, you know,
[48:22] the the daycare itself
[48:25] being built on to
[48:27] modular or moved into that area.
[48:30] And when the other facility, rest of
[48:33] facility, goes down, I mean, how you
[48:35] could create it into different areas.
[48:37] So, I think it potentially could be a a
[48:40] win-win for everybody and and and again,
[48:43] I really think that the
[48:46] rate payers of the of the
[48:48] Palestine school division
[48:51] really need to do some soul-searching
[48:52] because I I think unfortunately, you
[48:54] know, they're going to be looking at
[48:56] again, dollars and cents and square
[48:58] footage and
[48:59] and um
[49:00] you know,
[49:01] I I think that the the teachers and the
[49:04] and the
[49:07] kids in the system are going to realize
[49:09] a substantial change in facility. Sure,
[49:12] you know, it's nice to have a beautiful
[49:13] sunlight coming through a window, but
[49:16] uh
[49:16] I'll tell you there's
[49:18] advantages to having some space, too,
[49:20] but you know, and I think when you start
[49:22] seeing some of the areas that are going
[49:24] to be squished and cut to
[49:27] um
[49:28] Anyway,
[49:30] but
[49:31] that's it for me. Go ahead, Cole.
[49:33] >> Well, to your point there, Tommy, I went
[49:35] » Well, to your point there, Tommy, I went
[49:35] to high school there and I'll be sad to
[49:37] see that building go if that's the
[49:38] direction they want to go.
[49:40] It seems like a lot of waste, but they
[49:42] see it as a lot of wasted space right
[49:44] now, but
[49:46] I don't know.
[49:47] >> But then again, you know, I I came from
[49:49] » But then again, you know, I I came from
[49:49] a class that graduated and then and this
[49:51] is small compared
[49:53] I look around some people that have
[49:54] graduated in the city and we had 110
[49:56] kids graduate this year and it's 35.
[49:58] Yeah.
[49:59] >> [clears throat]
[50:00] » [clears throat]
[50:00] >> You know, I appreciate that. 40 years
[50:02] » You know, I appreciate that. 40 years
[50:02] ago
[50:03] I mean
[50:04] you know, our numbers, you know, and
[50:05] again
[50:06] sorry to stop, you know, that keep your
[50:08] thoughts going there Chris for a second,
[50:10] but you know, our numbers just do not
[50:13] justify the size of the facilities
[50:15] facilities is designed for so over 700
[50:18] plus kids
[50:19] and you know they're in the 235
[50:22] kids.
[50:23] >> 80%
[50:24] » 80%
[50:24] >> You know, it it's not it's just the not
[50:26] » You know, it it's not it's just the not
[50:26] sustainable. So, I mean, I'd rather see
[50:28] them do a a downsize or a right-sizing
[50:31] of the facility or a new facility
[50:34] than have close it and not not have
[50:36] anything.
[50:36] >> Yeah.
[50:37] » Yeah.
[50:37] >> You know, that would be scary.
[50:39] » You know, that would be scary.
[50:39] >> Right. And I guess too like I I do
[50:41] » Right. And I guess too like I I do
[50:41] appreciate like all the recent
[50:44] inter-ministerial meetings we've been
[50:45] having. I think that's a great step in
[50:48] the right direction and I hope the
[50:49] frequency kind of stays there with some
[50:51] of these larger projects happening.
[50:54] Um
[50:55] and and one recommendation that I'd like
[50:58] to see is just, you know, kind of
[51:00] pre-booking a meeting sometime after the
[51:02] scoping just to kind of set, "Hey, like
[51:04] once that's over, let's have another
[51:07] discussion similar
[51:09] what we have now and then we'll have new
[51:11] information at that time and go, "Hey."
[51:13] And so, I think
[51:15] having those trying to have a regular
[51:18] frequency, I think this is probably
[51:20] something
[51:22] that we should entertain
[51:24] um at some point, but uh
[51:27] because that's what everyone's going to
[51:28] be thinking after that scoping is,
[51:30] "Okay, well,
[51:31] where are we going to go with this?" And
[51:33] you know, we've already kind of put our
[51:34] best foot forward and we're having
[51:36] dialogue with all the counselors and
[51:39] putting our heads together and going,
[51:40] "Hey, like what's what's best for the
[51:42] community? What should we do?" And uh
[51:45] so, I think that's great.
[51:47] >> You know,
[51:48] » You know,
[51:48] the only thing you know, if it wasn't
[51:50] for the town reaching out for
[51:52] a policy meeting, we wouldn't have one.
[51:55] Um,
[51:55] at a point they're going to say this is
[51:57] what we're doing.
[51:59] Either you want this they should just
[52:00] write a check.
[52:02] And that's going to be the question. And
[52:05] the meetings after that will be
[52:08] probably
[52:10] you might choose a color. I don't know.
[52:12] But you know, it's at one point they're
[52:14] going to say this is what we're doing.
[52:16] >> But but again, I think that you know,
[52:18] » But but again, I think that you know,
[52:18] there's things that we as
[52:20] a council can do coming up and and in
[52:24] support of the project totally like as
[52:27] a, you know, physically say that we're
[52:29] in support of the of them right sizing
[52:32] or building a new facility
[52:35] compared to allowing
[52:37] them and the government to then can say
[52:40] no, we're going to just close the
[52:41] facility down and and
[52:44] move the kids to somewhere else. Um,
[52:47] I think have merit. So, I I think that
[52:49] we need to think of that, but I think
[52:51] Chris is right that you know, our
[52:52] relationship with the county is
[52:54] important and I think we need to, you
[52:56] know, keep it as open a dialogue as we
[52:59] can and
[53:00] and same with when we start budgeting
[53:03] here in September, is this that where we
[53:06] did something like we did with the
[53:07] Marcus Foundation, we kind of knew that
[53:08] there was something
[53:10] potentially [snorts] being there. Is
[53:12] this a way of saying we should be
[53:14] earmarking funds or at least spending
[53:17] more time and effort to to move that
[53:21] in support of another organization
[53:24] moving forward. So, I I think that's
[53:25] something we need to keep that dialogue
[53:27] open. I think Chris is right that you
[53:29] know, we
[53:31] need to keep that open as much as we
[53:32] can. So, anyway, that's it for me.
[53:36] Okay, somebody wish to move the council
[53:38] reports?
[53:39] Judy moves. Thank you.
[53:41] Any discussion on Judy's motion?
[53:44] Hearing none, I call the
[53:46] posed. It's unanimous, it's carried.
[53:49] Unanimous okay, action list.
[53:51] >> So, as you can see,
[53:53] » So, as you can see,
[53:53] we had the one item from our last
[53:54] meeting. That was fairly easy to take
[53:56] care of. Got the letter wrote and
[53:58] everything's next day, so.
[54:00] Uh to the note on the action list,
[54:03] Karen's first day back was today, so
[54:05] hopefully we're going to be able to
[54:06] start putting her name on that list
[54:07] again.
[54:09] It might get longer again.
[54:11] >> Yeah, pretty good.
[54:12] » Yeah, pretty good.
[54:12] >> Uh to you then, from there I guess we
[54:14] » Uh to you then, from there I guess we
[54:14] can go to my CEO report. Uh pretty
[54:17] straightforward, you all had a chance to
[54:18] read it. Did quite a bit of background
[54:20] information with the uh county land use
[54:22] bylaw and how it uh reflects with our
[54:26] inter municipal development plan, which
[54:28] showed at the meeting obviously we got
[54:29] some pretty good feedback and uh
[54:31] we're able to give some pretty good uh
[54:35] uh comments for the county to take into
[54:37] consideration as they amend that land
[54:39] use bylaw.
[54:41] The
[54:42] reviewed uh
[54:44] the sidewalk request for
[54:46] uh
[54:47] the uh
[54:48] Marcus Foundation. There's some resident
[54:51] uh residents that have some concerns
[54:52] over the the sloping for uh the access
[54:56] for driving. Uh that change in
[54:58] elevation, if you're visually impaired,
[54:59] can give some uh So, I think that the
[55:02] Peter Dawson Lodge is working to like uh
[55:07] they might put some markings on the
[55:08] sidewalk for [clears throat] that.
[55:10] It's just to help identify it for them.
[55:13] Uh
[55:13] again,
[55:14] uh
[55:16] they're town sidewalks, but uh allowing
[55:18] for some paint on there it's not going
[55:20] to
[55:21] uh
[55:21] not going to hurt them any. But, of
[55:23] course, we don't want to get into doing
[55:24] that all over town. So, I've had brief
[55:26] discussions on how that can happen.
[55:29] Uh
[55:29] met with the RCMP sergeant on uh
[55:32] discussion on speed enforcement and then
[55:34] also uh based on the last council
[55:36] meeting some of the comments on the
[55:37] restricted uh small vehicles. Uh We had
[55:40] a brief conversation on that as well.
[55:42] They're going to do some looking into it
[55:46] because again, as I mentioned,
[55:48] we feel that the province is looking at
[55:50] some different programs. They do have a
[55:52] pilot program up there for golf carts
[55:54] right now. It's quite onerous, but they
[55:56] they are looking at these small vehicles
[55:58] and how to
[55:59] how to handle them, especially with the
[56:01] bicycles and that. Thank you to Chris
[56:03] for sending out that
[56:05] video that complemented all the
[56:06] information that I sent you. It
[56:08] basically confirmed that the information
[56:09] I provided you was accurate and
[56:12] So,
[56:13] yeah. So,
[56:14] >> More than just us talking.
[56:15] » More than just us talking.
[56:15] >> Yeah, it was it was it was a really good
[56:16] » Yeah, it was it was it was a really good
[56:17] conversation on that, yeah. So, I tried
[56:20] I kept you all up to date on the pump
[56:22] repair of the
[56:23] small repair of the pool.
[56:26] Complimented the company and our guys
[56:28] for how quickly they were able to act on
[56:30] that.
[56:31] >> That's great.
[56:32] » That's great.
[56:32] >> That was a That was a big challenge for
[56:33] » That was a That was a big challenge for
[56:33] those guys. And a formal if you did guys
[56:37] do run into a Brett Sherman showed up at
[56:39] the boat
[56:41] 8:00 and actually helped the guys with
[56:43] the zoom boom get it into the building
[56:44] because the new pump the new motor was
[56:46] bigger than the
[56:47] last one. So,
[56:49] uh
[56:50] even the public helped us get that
[56:52] >> Thanks, good.
[56:53] » Thanks, good.
[56:53] >> So, that was great. And they were back
[56:54] » So, that was great. And they were back
[56:54] up and running by 10:00.
[56:56] We only lost one day. So,
[56:59] uh
[57:00] lost the chlorine pump yesterday. So,
[57:03] but that was a smaller scale, much
[57:04] smaller scale. So,
[57:06] uh
[57:07] Coordinated the meeting with the council
[57:10] for the modernization of the schools. We
[57:13] had a great discussion on that and
[57:15] then also with the construction project.
[57:18] I've been
[57:19] giving regular updates with Cima Plus
[57:21] and each week done progress. They're
[57:23] currently behind, but then uh
[57:27] they think it worked out great because
[57:29] as soon as they can get pay per share is
[57:30] the 19th anyway. So,
[57:32] So, hopefully everything will come
[57:34] together with that on the back of
[57:35] schedule.
[57:37] Uh a lot of community member inquiries
[57:40] on data centers. CTV was nice enough to
[57:42] do a news report that included you guys.
[57:44] Uh seeing that conversation, that was an
[57:47] awful kind of them. Uh
[57:49] Uh
[57:50] brought more attention to our ratepayers
[57:51] about it, so that was good. I I answered
[57:53] lots of questions. We've had some bio
[57:55] log concerns, which Tony's been able to
[57:57] address.
[57:58] And then on the council member side,
[58:01] obviously working on some IT that's not
[58:03] going terribly great, but uh and then
[58:06] Marcus is an ongoing
[58:08] uh making sure that I can answer
[58:09] questions in a timely fashion. Obviously
[58:11] the construction rules. So, my formal
[58:14] meetings were pretty straightforward.
[58:16] You guys were at all of them except for
[58:17] the same site meetings, so.
[58:20] Great.
[58:21] >> I like being on TV, but I my phone blew
[58:23] » I like being on TV, but I my phone blew
[58:23] up right after that. I had people You
[58:25] guys have input into that? Like, no.
[58:28] >> [laughter]
[58:29] » [laughter]
[58:29] >> Tony better have been
[58:30] » Tony better have been
[58:30] >> It was It was
[58:31] » It was It was
[58:31] It was excellent because they did say
[58:33] county council and then showed a picture
[58:35] of us.
[58:36] >> Yeah, video of us sitting here.
[58:38] » Yeah, video of us sitting here.
[58:38] >> It was so
[58:39] » It was so
[58:39] >> Maybe we should start spending some of
[58:40] » Maybe we should start spending some of
[58:40] our money for
[58:41] >> We should talk everybody else into
[58:43] » We should talk everybody else into
[58:44] broadcasting their meetings.
[58:45] >> Yeah.
[58:46] » Yeah.
[58:46] >> That's where the footage came from. It
[58:48] » That's where the footage came from. It
[58:48] was from our council meetings.
[58:50] >> Okay.
[58:51] » Okay.
[58:51] >> Any other questions?
[58:52] » Any other questions?
[58:52] >> questions as for Kim on those those two?
[58:54] » questions as for Kim on those those two?
[58:54] >> Yeah, send the link around, Kim.
[58:56] » Yeah, send the link around, Kim.
[58:56] >> [laughter]
[58:58] » I grumbled at first and
[59:01] It only lasted about 2 seconds.
[59:03] >> But I I I did get a comment on it, too,
[59:06] » But I I I did get a comment on it, too,
[59:06] and they said, "Holy mackerel, we didn't
[59:08] realize that you guys were county
[59:09] council." And then
[59:10] >> Yeah.
[59:12] » Yeah.
[59:12] >> I have a question. Are we starting to
[59:14] » I have a question. Are we starting to
[59:14] plan for
[59:16] convention?
[59:17] >> Yes, Karen's going to phone you
[59:18] » Yes, Karen's going to phone you
[59:18] tomorrow.
[59:19] >> Okay. Thank you.
[59:21] » Okay. Thank you.
[59:21] I just saw something online that I
[59:23] thought was
[59:24] >> Karen will be calling tomorrow to
[59:25] » Karen will be calling tomorrow to
[59:25] confirm your attendance.
[59:26] >> What does Karen do?
[59:28] » What does Karen do?
[59:28] >> Okay.
[59:29] » Okay.
[59:29] Uh [snorts]
[59:31] >> Uh anything else? Excuse me. Sorry.
[59:32] » Uh anything else? Excuse me. Sorry.
[59:32] We're moving on to uh
[59:34] development.
[59:39] Anything on readings?
[59:46] Okay. Public Works?
[59:55] » Stu's is awfully quiet for a guy that
[59:57] was gone for 2 weeks.
[59:58] >> Yeah.
[59:58] » Yeah.
[59:58] >> [laughter]
[1:00:00] » [laughter]
[1:00:00] >> I do know that uh his holiday wasn't as
[1:00:03] » I do know that uh his holiday wasn't as
[1:00:03] relaxing as it could be cuz I know that
[1:00:05] he forwarded a lot of the calls during a
[1:00:07] couple of our meetings, so.
[1:00:12] » I do have a question though.
[1:00:13] >> Yes.
[1:00:14] » Yes.
[1:00:14] >> Uh with regards to the street in front
[1:00:17] » Uh with regards to the street in front
[1:00:17] of Petro-Canada
[1:00:19] and uh Amy's Restaurant, is there any
[1:00:23] chance we could get some of those
[1:00:24] potholes
[1:00:25] >> Yeah.
[1:00:26] » Yeah.
[1:00:26] >> filled because they have been completely
[1:00:28] » filled because they have been completely
[1:00:28] ignored and they are getting deeper and
[1:00:31] deeper every day.
[1:00:33] >> Yeah, Stu was actually putting together
[1:00:34] » Yeah, Stu was actually putting together
[1:00:34] some prices to see if we could do it
[1:00:36] inside the street program, uh not this
[1:00:39] program, but inside of our avenue paving
[1:00:42] to see if we could actually maybe want
[1:00:44] to do it off the lane on there. So,
[1:00:45] that's one of the reasons.
[1:00:46] >> But, for temporary, we need to fill some
[1:00:48] » But, for temporary, we need to fill some
[1:00:48] of those potholes because they are very
[1:00:50] large
[1:00:51] and they're only going to get worse and
[1:00:54] with the truck traffic and that
[1:00:55] motorhome trailer traffic, that kind of
[1:00:57] thing. So, if that could be
[1:01:00] you know uh temporary of some something,
[1:01:03] that would be great.
[1:01:06] » You bet.
[1:01:07] >> I'll pass that along.
[1:01:09] » Okay. Anything else on Stu's?
[1:01:14] Anything else?
[1:01:14] >> With regard if I may, with regards to
[1:01:17] » With regard if I may, with regards to
[1:01:17] the pump at the pool, I did offer my
[1:01:19] services
[1:01:21] uh as I was in Calgary if need be to
[1:01:24] pick up the pump.
[1:01:25] But, uh, I was informed that it was
[1:01:28] fortunate that it was in
[1:01:29] Lethbridge. Well,
[1:01:30] >> No, it was in Edmonton.
[1:01:31] » No, it was in Edmonton.
[1:01:31] >> Oh, it was in Edmonton and got to
[1:01:33] » Oh, it was in Edmonton and got to
[1:01:33] >> I wasn't going to Edmonton.
[1:01:34] » I wasn't going to Edmonton.
[1:01:34] >> It it did it didn't arrive into into
[1:01:37] » It it did it didn't arrive into into
[1:01:37] Lethbridge until 5:00 4:30 5:00 that
[1:01:40] evening. So,
[1:01:41] you would have been sitting around
[1:01:42] Calgary for a while.
[1:01:43] >> No, I wouldn't have been.
[1:01:45] » No, I wouldn't have been.
[1:01:45] I do appreciate you.
[1:01:48] >> Unfortunately, that was it's quite a
[1:01:49] » Unfortunately, that was it's quite a
[1:01:49] weekend for Rob, too, but um,
[1:01:52] a little bit on that, too, as I he left
[1:01:55] the the door or the
[1:01:57] alarm off, and then so I went in and got
[1:02:00] the float and took it to Strathmore, and
[1:02:02] then I came back and I thought, well,
[1:02:04] I'll be kind enough to put it back and
[1:02:06] put it back in, but uh, somebody came
[1:02:08] along and turned the alarm off.
[1:02:10] So, as soon as you open the door,
[1:02:13] the alarm's
[1:02:14] squealing. So, I did phone Rob, and Rob
[1:02:17] saw me there right away, which he did.
[1:02:20] And so, you know, I put the float away,
[1:02:22] we closed the door, and then our RCMP
[1:02:24] showed up. So, they they do, uh,
[1:02:26] >> respond.
[1:02:27] » respond.
[1:02:27] >> They respond to
[1:02:28] » They respond to
[1:02:28] the situation. So, he took Rob's
[1:02:30] information. He didn't take mine down.
[1:02:32] >> Oh, he did?
[1:02:33] » Oh, he did?
[1:02:33] >> No, cuz Rob told him you weren't
[1:02:34] » No, cuz Rob told him you weren't
[1:02:34] supposed to be there.
[1:02:35] >> [laughter]
[1:02:37] » [laughter]
[1:02:37] >> But, you know, I felt so bad for Rob
[1:02:38] » But, you know, I felt so bad for Rob
[1:02:38] cuz, you know, here
[1:02:40] >> just gotten the
[1:02:40] » just gotten the
[1:02:41] >> I I just thought I could help him out
[1:02:42] » I I just thought I could help him out
[1:02:42] and, you know, but I
[1:02:44] created more work for him, but I
[1:02:46] appreciate him.
[1:02:47] >> He was still stressed out figuring out
[1:02:48] » He was still stressed out figuring out
[1:02:48] how they were going to get that pump.
[1:02:50] >> But, anyway, so it was quite a weekend
[1:02:52] » But, anyway, so it was quite a weekend
[1:02:52] for him, but
[1:02:54] Okay, moving on. We're going to the
[1:02:55] >> I had, uh, a complaint about the How
[1:02:57] » I had, uh, a complaint about the How
[1:02:57] could they let the pool go down on a
[1:03:00] long weekend? I said, they didn't plan
[1:03:02] it.
[1:03:03] And so, I made sure and I saw the guys
[1:03:06] going back home. They didn't get home,
[1:03:08] they were going back to the shop. It was
[1:03:09] after 9:00.
[1:03:10] >> It was 10:30.
[1:03:11] » It was 10:30.
[1:03:11] >> So, they they were maybe it was going
[1:03:13] » So, they they were maybe it was going
[1:03:13] for more parts, but so I made sure I
[1:03:15] I've and then he sent that out, so I
[1:03:16] knew through this person who
[1:03:18] Our guys were full time to get that pool
[1:03:21] up.
[1:03:21] >> And and I I think that's another one
[1:03:22] » And and I I think that's another one
[1:03:23] that I really appreciate of our
[1:03:25] administration and
[1:03:27] like you know, the waterline break or
[1:03:29] the break up at Birch Hill and this and
[1:03:31] that that goes on and then I think it's
[1:03:34] nice that we do even though we
[1:03:37] don't have a lot with it, but it at
[1:03:39] least we know someone somebody hits you
[1:03:41] up, they say, "Well, geez, you know,
[1:03:42] what's going on over there?" You know,
[1:03:44] you kind of answer some of the questions
[1:03:46] and uh
[1:03:48] and I think Judy's right, you know, we
[1:03:50] we never plan for an emergency
[1:03:53] an emergency like that and and uh but
[1:03:56] they do happen, so
[1:03:58] our our guys are good enough to matter
[1:04:00] of fact, we had one employee
[1:04:03] on public works that wasn't even working
[1:04:05] in that day that came in to help and he
[1:04:08] was the one of the ones that went to
[1:04:09] Lethbridge
[1:04:11] and then stayed to make sure that it was
[1:04:13] up and running and so I mean, you know,
[1:04:15] they put in a lot of hours that people
[1:04:18] don't realize.
[1:04:19] >> Mike wasn't as keen in the morning when
[1:04:20] » Mike wasn't as keen in the morning when
[1:04:20] they were supposed to be camping, but
[1:04:22] >> Oh, sure. I'm sure.
[1:04:23] » Oh, sure. I'm sure.
[1:04:23] >> they did get off.
[1:04:24] » they did get off.
[1:04:24] >> Anyway.
[1:04:25] » Anyway.
[1:04:25] Yeah, Judy's right. It it is much
[1:04:27] appreciated what they do for us and
[1:04:30] Okay, anything else on Stew's?
[1:04:33] If not, we'll move on to
[1:04:35] uh what's next? Community Services
[1:04:38] Christmas.
[1:04:44] And again, I I think this is great that
[1:04:45] we see the numbers for for in-town kids
[1:04:49] and out-of-town kids on some of these
[1:04:51] camps and we can see that the the
[1:04:53] numbers are generally
[1:04:55] there for for both and uh
[1:04:58] it's kind of nice to see how that number
[1:05:00] looks.
[1:05:01] >> And one one of the nice parts about this
[1:05:03] » And one one of the nice parts about this
[1:05:03] is even looking at the numbers, but uh
[1:05:05] if you look at the amount, we've had a
[1:05:07] camp every week where the kids are over
[1:05:09] at the school.
[1:05:09] >> Yeah.
[1:05:10] » Yeah.
[1:05:10] >> Uh this week it'll be the last one
[1:05:13] » Uh this week it'll be the last one
[1:05:13] >> Yeah. for the summer.
[1:05:15] » Yeah. for the summer.
[1:05:15] >> My daughter's been to two or three of
[1:05:17] » My daughter's been to two or three of
[1:05:17] them and they seem like they're quite
[1:05:18] well participated too. Like
[1:05:21] She really enjoys them. There's quite a
[1:05:23] few kids in there.
[1:05:24] >> Yeah, my daughter's been to all of them
[1:05:26] » Yeah, my daughter's been to all of them
[1:05:26] except for last week and when she was at
[1:05:28] the SCC's.
[1:05:30] She comes home every day just excited
[1:05:32] that it was great fun.
[1:05:35] >> And and again with the tourism the the
[1:05:37] » And and again with the tourism the the
[1:05:37] numbers on the merchandise visitors and
[1:05:41] top donation thing and
[1:05:45] and the walk-on uh
[1:05:47] Of course he wasn't able to attend it
[1:05:49] but uh
[1:05:50] heard that it was very well
[1:05:52] received and then so
[1:05:54] >> I heard the breakfast there was done
[1:05:56] » I heard the breakfast there was done
[1:05:57] incredibly well.
[1:05:58] >> Oh, is that right? I don't know who
[1:06:00] » Oh, is that right? I don't know who
[1:06:00] cooked it.
[1:06:05] It was well done or
[1:06:07] >> It was
[1:06:08] » It was
[1:06:08] >> [laughter]
[1:06:08] » [laughter]
[1:06:08] >> It was the best breakfast ever.
[1:06:09] » It was the best breakfast ever.
[1:06:09] >> Oh, that's fair.
[1:06:11] » Oh, that's fair.
[1:06:11] >> Okay.
[1:06:13] » Okay.
[1:06:13] Excellent.
[1:06:14] >> Okay, anything else on Christmas?
[1:06:16] » Okay, anything else on Christmas?
[1:06:16] Okay, we'll move on to bylaw.
[1:06:23] » Every
[1:06:25] shift getting more more
[1:06:27] dealing with
[1:06:29] getting some repetition to what he's
[1:06:30] doing, consistency and I've had nothing
[1:06:33] but positive feedback from all of these
[1:06:35] communities. So that's
[1:06:38] really nice after years of
[1:06:41] bylaw work that we've had.
[1:06:43] >> He's keeping busy.
[1:06:44] » He's keeping busy.
[1:06:44] >> Yeah, and I notice he's uh
[1:06:45] » Yeah, and I notice he's uh
[1:06:46] he seems to
[1:06:47] be a little more
[1:06:50] less
[1:06:52] >> I guess he's
[1:06:52] » I guess he's
[1:06:52] >> a lot of diplomacy with what he does.
[1:06:54] » a lot of diplomacy with what he does.
[1:06:54] >> Yeah.
[1:06:55] » Yeah.
[1:06:55] Yeah, he's he's doing a good job as far
[1:06:57] as I can get to him. You can read it and
[1:06:58] hear and see it. So
[1:07:02] Okay, anything else on
[1:07:04] bylaw?
[1:07:06] Okay, moving on to the fire report.
[1:07:19] Okay, any questions on any of our
[1:07:24] management reports?
[1:07:28] No, somebody wish to
[1:07:30] Chris
[1:07:33] Any discussion on Chris's motion?
[1:07:35] Hearing none, I'll call the question.
[1:07:37] All in favor?
[1:07:38] Opposed? Seeing none, it's carried.
[1:07:40] Okay, now we can go in camera for
[1:07:44] >> If I could interrupt you
[1:07:47] » If I could interrupt you
[1:07:47] just briefly before. Our procedures do
[1:07:50] allow for
[1:07:51] the cameras to be shut off, obviously,
[1:07:53] for in camera, but knowing that there is
[1:07:55] no motions coming from the in camera
[1:07:58] discussion, you guys can actually end
[1:08:01] the
[1:08:02] broadcast of the meeting so that it is
[1:08:04] just
[1:08:05] in camera sign for the rest of your
[1:08:07] meeting. So, I didn't know if that was
[1:08:09] something you guys would like to
[1:08:10] consider. Cuz the only [snorts] motion
[1:08:12] you have is a motion
[1:08:13] >> Okay, so Dwayne moves that we
[1:08:16] » Okay, so Dwayne moves that we
[1:08:16] >> You don't Yeah, you don't have to move
[1:08:17] » You don't Yeah, you don't have to move
[1:08:17] that we end the recording. It's
[1:08:19] just whatever you guys It's just as long
[1:08:21] as you're all in favor of You can all
[1:08:23] end it.
[1:08:23] >> We end the meeting.
[1:08:24] » We end the meeting.
[1:08:24] >> Yeah.
[1:08:26] » Yeah.
[1:08:26] >> So, so will we end the meeting or
[1:08:27] » So, so will we end the meeting or
[1:08:27] >> No, no, you'll just end the recording.
[1:08:29] » No, no, you'll just end the recording.
[1:08:29] >> We'll end the recording.
[1:08:30] » We'll end the recording.
[1:08:30] >> And we'll just announce to the recording
[1:08:33] » And we'll just announce to the recording
[1:08:33] that we'll be going in
[1:08:35] closed meeting for
[1:08:38] obviously the third party business
[1:08:40] interests and not anticipating any
[1:08:42] motions or discussion following the
[1:08:44] closed session and next item on the
[1:08:47] agenda is to adjournment, so
[1:08:50] once we come from
[1:08:52] closed session, we'll go straight to
[1:08:54] adjournment. So, that's announced on
[1:08:57] on the broadcast, so now we can end the
[1:08:58] broadcast.
[1:09:00] >> Okay.
[1:09:00] » Okay.
[1:09:00] >> Rather than have it sit in closed here
[1:09:02] » Rather than have it sit in closed here
[1:09:02] however long. Okay, is that agreeable?
[1:09:06] >> No, you don't need a motion.
[1:09:07] » No, you don't need a motion.
[1:09:07] >> We don't need a motion, just a
[1:09:08] » We don't need a motion, just a
[1:09:08] >> Okay.
[1:09:09] » Okay.
[1:09:09] >> So, what I'll do is I'll just go ahead
[1:09:10] » So, what I'll do is I'll just go ahead
[1:09:10] and end the broadcast right now.
[1:09:14] And then we can go into closed session.
[1:09:17] >> Okay, so we need a motion to go in
[1:09:18] » Okay, so we need a motion to go in
[1:09:18] closed session then.
[1:09:19] >> To closed session at 8:08.
[1:09:21] » To closed session at 8:08.
[1:09:21] >> Judy, at 8:08.
[1:09:27] » Okay.
[1:09:32] » And now I'll end the broadcast.