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[0:00] All right, I will call this regular
[0:01] scheduled meeting to order. If you will
[0:03] join and salute to our nation's flag.
[0:06] >> Ready, begin.
[0:07] >> I aliance to the flag of the United
[0:10] States of America and to the republic
[0:13] for which it stands, one nation under
[0:16] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:18] justice for all.
[0:21] >> Roll call and declaration of conflicts
[0:23] of interest, please.
[0:24] >> Council member Abram, hear none. Council
[0:26] member Bixel,
[0:27] >> here are none.
[0:28] >> Vice Mayor Manz, here none. Council
[0:29] member Phillips
[0:29] >> hear none.
[0:30] >> Mayor Bill
[0:31] >> hearing none.
[0:32] >> All right. Approval of agenda is posted
[0:34] or amended.
[0:34] >> So move second.
[0:36] >> Motion in two seconds. We call the role.
[0:38] >> Council member Abram.
[0:38] >> Yes. Council member Bixel.
[0:40] >> Yes.
[0:40] >> Vice Mayor Monet. Council member
[0:41] Phillips. Yes.
[0:42] >> Mayor Bill Black.
[0:43] >> Yes. Passes on a 5-0. All right. We will
[0:45] start with the proclamations.
[1:01] Riley, will you come up please?
[1:12] So today we are recognizing Riley Ramos
[1:15] who graduated this year from Pitman High
[1:18] School. Uh this is a certificate of
[1:20] recognition presented by the city uh
[1:22] Turlock City Council on behalf of the
[1:24] citizens of Turlock for her
[1:25] distinguished achievements in future
[1:27] farmers of America livestock exhibition
[1:30] academics and athletics for exemplifying
[1:33] leadership and excellence in her
[1:35] community. On behalf of our wonderful
[1:37] mayor Amy Blue City Council,
[1:40] congratulations on the recognition.
[1:42] [applause]
[1:48] teacher this week, right?
[1:49] >> Yeah, kind of.
[1:53] Thank you guys so much for this. This is
[1:55] a really good honor. Thank you so much
[1:57] and have a good night.
[2:01] [applause]
[2:21] All right, treasures report. Welcome.
[2:25] Good evening, mayor, uh members of the
[2:27] council, city staff, uh and the public.
[2:29] I'm here to review the city's investment
[2:31] portfolio.
[2:33] Uh first, just wanted to remind you on
[2:35] our investment policy, which is kind of
[2:37] our guiding document. It establishes our
[2:39] priorities. uh or objectives of safety,
[2:42] liquidity and return. It also encourages
[2:45] us to invest prudently. Um obviously all
[2:48] investing carries risk but if we can
[2:49] diversify uh those risks then hopefully
[2:52] on the the entire portfolio that the
[2:54] risk is brought down. Um it also
[2:56] specifies what types of investments we
[2:58] can make. We can't invest in stocks or
[3:00] anything like that. We're really uh
[3:02] limited to short-term highquality bonds.
[3:05] So let's take a look at what the bond
[3:07] market has done over the last year.
[3:10] This is a year ago what the yield curve
[3:13] looked like. So the yield curve is it
[3:16] shows you the interest rates for
[3:18] investing in a treasury bond of various
[3:20] different maturities from 0 to 5 years.
[3:23] Um typically a yield curve is upward
[3:25] sloping. So you get a larger return the
[3:27] longer you lock up your money. Um here
[3:30] it's called inverted. We have shorter
[3:31] term rates that are above longer term
[3:33] rates. Um that typically signals that
[3:35] we're in a period of transition where
[3:37] short-term rates will be coming down.
[3:39] And that is what happened over the
[3:40] second half of 2025. Um inflation was
[3:43] coming down. The Fed cut the short-term
[3:45] rates threequarters of a percent. Um but
[3:48] in the first half of 2026, that trend
[3:51] changed a little bit. We had um the uh
[3:54] crisis in the Middle East, the conflict
[3:56] in the Middle East, uh raising, you
[3:58] know, oil prices and maybe there's
[4:00] rekindling of inflation. So perhaps the
[4:02] Fed isn't going to be able to cut
[4:03] interest rates as much. So interest
[4:05] rates actually rose for uh longer term
[4:08] maturities, which uh negatively affects
[4:11] the the value of the bonds that you own,
[4:14] but it does mean that um when you're
[4:16] reinvesting that money, it's going to be
[4:18] at higher rates. So it's sort of like we
[4:20] took one step back, but then we're going
[4:21] to take two steps forward. We'll still
[4:23] get to where we intended to, just kind
[4:25] of a different path.
[4:28] um looking at our portfolio more
[4:30] specifically. Um again, we want to make
[4:34] sure we're investing safely. So, how do
[4:36] we do that? Short-term high-quality
[4:38] bonds. Bonds are contractual obligations
[4:41] where the issuer is, you know, required
[4:42] to return our money and pay us interest.
[4:44] Uh in particular, twothirds of our
[4:46] portfolio is in uh US treasuries and
[4:48] agencies. Those are backed by the full
[4:51] faith and credit of the US government.
[4:53] So, they're very safe. Um even these
[4:55] other types of investments, you know,
[4:57] even the corporate bonds, those are very large companies that we use every
[5:00] day, they're very safe investments. So
[5:03] we feel good about the safety.
[5:05] Um for liquidity, we have about $80
[5:08] million that is due due on demand. So
[5:11] that's uh invested in things like money
[5:13] market funds or investment pools like
[5:15] camp or leif where if you put a dollar
[5:18] in, you should be able to get a dollar
[5:19] out, you know, in the next day or two.
[5:21] Um, so if we do have any unexpected um,
[5:24] surprises, we have money that we could,
[5:26] you know, use for that. Um, so we have
[5:28] very good liquidity. If anything, we've
[5:30] been taking the liquidity down. You see
[5:31] about 40 million we've kind of
[5:33] transferred from the do on demand to
[5:35] longer term maturities to try to lock in
[5:37] those higher rates over the long run.
[5:42] And lastly, we want to make sure that
[5:43] we're getting um a good return on our
[5:45] investment.
[5:47] And over the last year, again, despite
[5:49] the the rise in yields and stuff, we
[5:51] were still able to manage a 3.13%
[5:53] return, which is almost 10 billion
[5:55] dollars of growth. If you compare that
[5:58] to uh a fund of 1 to threeyear treasury
[6:00] bonds, uh we actually outperform that by
[6:03] 0.35% or about an extra million dollars.
[6:06] So, I think it was pretty good pretty
[6:08] good year on that on that respect. And
[6:11] then looking forward again, rates are a
[6:13] little bit higher. We now expect about a
[6:15] 4% return over the next two years, which
[6:18] also compares favorably to our
[6:20] benchmarks.
[6:23] With that, I'll take any questions.
[6:26] >> Questions for the treasur?
[6:28] >> Comments for the treasur?
[6:30] >> Okay, that too.
[6:31] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I have comments.
[6:32] Hey, you're being really modest and
[6:35] humble. Thank you. But you're doing a
[6:37] great job over your predecessor because
[6:39] I know you've improved the city's income
[6:41] and our growth. So, um, you know me. I'm
[6:43] going to just call it out for what it
[6:44] is. But thank you. Great job. Keep
[6:47] going.
[6:48] >> Thank you. Anybody else?
[6:50] >> All right. Thank you so much.
[6:54] >> Okay. At this time, we're going to open
[6:55] the public comment on the consent
[6:58] calendar. This is your opportunity to
[7:01] comment on any item on the consent
[7:02] calendar or to request from the council
[7:04] that an item be removed for separate
[7:06] consideration. If you're requesting that
[7:07] an item be pulled, please state the item
[7:09] number and briefly explain your request
[7:11] to the council. Public comment on the
[7:12] consent calendar is limited to one
[7:14] minute per speaker. Uh madam clerk.
[7:17] >> Yes. So we have no blue cards for um
[7:20] consent calendar. There is no one
[7:22] online. So if anyone from the public
[7:24] would like to comment on an item on the
[7:25] consent calendar, please come forward.
[7:29] >> Seeing no hands, mayor.
[7:30] >> Okay. We will close public comment and
[7:33] move forward.
[7:34] >> Move to approve consent calendar as
[7:35] written. Second.
[7:38] >> Motion to second. We call the role.
[7:39] >> Council member Abram.
[7:40] >> Yes. Council member Vixel.
[7:41] >> Yes.
[7:42] >> Vice Mayor Man.
[7:42] >> Yes.
[7:43] >> Council member Phillips.
[7:44] >> Yes.
[7:44] >> Mayor BL.
[7:44] >> Yes. Passes on a 5-0. There are no final
[7:47] readings. Uh public hearing 8A. We have
[7:51] a presenter. Who's Mr. Morris?
[7:55] That makes sense. Engineers report. I
[7:58] get it.
[8:00] >> Yeah. No, it doesn't say that.
[8:03] >> Not on mine.
[8:04] >> Good evening. Good evening,
[8:06] >> mayor and council members. Yes, tonight
[8:08] uh approving the engineers report and
[8:11] confirming diagrams assessments and
[8:13] ordering the leving of collection of
[8:14] assessments as originally proposed for
[8:17] fiscal year 2627 for all landscaping and
[8:20] lighting assessment districts in all
[8:22] street maintenance benefit assessment
[8:23] areas within the city of Turlock
[8:26] pursuant to resolution number 97128.
[8:29] If there's any questions, comments,
[8:31] >> questions.
[8:33] Okay, with that we'll open it to the
[8:35] public. Uh, and I will, uh, give that to
[8:39] the clerk.
[8:40] >> All right, so we have no blue comment
[8:42] cards. We have no one online. If anyone
[8:44] from the public in the audience would
[8:46] like to speak regarding this item,
[8:48] please come forward to the lect turn.
[8:51] >> Seeing no hands, mayor.
[8:52] >> All right. Well, then we will close
[8:53] public comment and move to
[8:55] >> move to approve 80.
[8:56] >> Both resolutions.
[8:58] >> Yes. Second both resolutions. Sorry.
[9:00] Both resolutions. Thank you.
[9:01] >> Thank you. We have a motion to second.
[9:02] You call the role, please.
[9:03] >> Council member Abram,
[9:04] >> yes.
[9:04] >> Council member Bixel,
[9:05] >> yes.
[9:05] >> Vice Mayor Monz,
[9:06] >> yes.
[9:06] >> Council member Phillips, yes.
[9:08] >> Mayor Back,
[9:08] >> yes. Passes on a 5-0. Thank you, Mr.
[9:10] Morris.
[9:11] >> All right. 9A
[9:14] Tikkert. I think this is the road
[9:16] doctor.
[9:17] >> You
[9:20] hiding. He comes with good news.
[9:23] >> I know.
[9:24] >> Really good news.
[9:28] But he's saying about course.
[9:34] » Good evening, mayor and council members.
[9:38] Yes, I do have good news. Uh the item
[9:41] before you is for awarding bid and
[9:43] approving an an agreement between the
[9:46] city of Turlock and Titer Construction
[9:49] for rehabilitation of gear road project.
[9:54] Uh a little background here just to
[9:56] refresh everybody's memory. Three years
[9:58] ago, the council approved task order
[9:59] number two authorizing us to start
[10:01] preliminary design up to 30% stage of
[10:05] completion.
[10:06] Uh
[10:09] we made the first uh uh public
[10:11] information meeting with the public
[10:14] collected uh comments from the public
[10:16] based on the stage of uh design that we
[10:20] had at the time and subsequent to that
[10:22] we made a similar presentation to the
[10:25] council.
[10:26] With that we requested and received
[10:28] authorization to proceed with final
[10:31] design. Shortly after that, we received
[10:34] good news from uh Stanco Stannis Law
[10:37] Council of Governments that we were the
[10:40] recipients of $4.8 million in surface
[10:43] transportation block grant funding SDPG,
[10:46] which meant the project was federalized,
[10:49] meaning that we had to follow federal
[10:51] regulations, follow Calrans procedures.
[10:55] Uh so we held the second public
[10:59] information meeting, collected
[11:00] additional information based on stage of
[11:03] uh design from the public. Uh made
[11:06] another uh presentation to the council.
[11:11] Calrans determined that the project is
[11:13] categorically
[11:14] excluded from the requirements of
[11:17] national environmental policy act NEPA
[11:19] which meant that federal environmental
[11:22] clearance was achieved. Right after
[11:23] that, the council made a similar uh
[11:26] determination based on uh California
[11:30] Environmental Quality Act SQUA. That
[11:32] meant that the state regulations were
[11:35] satisfied as far as environmental
[11:37] clearance. With those two environmental
[11:39] clearances at hand, we requested uh
[11:42] authorization to proceed from CALR and
[11:45] Federal Highway Administration. FHWA
[11:48] issued a document that is called E76
[11:51] obligated the 4.8 8 million and
[11:54] authorized us to proceed with
[11:56] advertising the project for
[11:58] construction. Before that, we had
[12:00] already come to the council and asked
[12:01] for authorization to uh advertise the
[12:05] project once all these documents were in
[12:07] place.
[12:09] Uh, as soon as we received the E76, we
[12:13] had additional good news from Stanco
[12:15] that we received another $2 million in SDBG funding for safety improvements
[12:22] along the corridor. So that brought the
[12:24] total to 6.8 million, which means
[12:27] shortly we will ask FHWA to amend E76
[12:32] for the additional 2 million. So that
[12:34] can be obligated towards the project.
[12:38] Uh, one item to bring up here is as we
[12:41] went through the project, we were
[12:42] looking at different ways to advertise
[12:45] the project and see how we could speed
[12:47] up the uh, construction and also
[12:51] encourage participation by different
[12:54] contractors.
[12:56] Looking at three different phases,
[12:58] staging those, overlapping those, it all
[13:01] didn't help that much. We put our heads
[13:04] together with Stanco and Calrans and
[13:07] based on the climate of bidding at the
[13:11] time that we were looking at this, we
[13:13] all reached the conclusion it would be
[13:15] best to have one bid package for all
[13:17] three phases.
[13:19] So this is the entire project from
[13:22] Golden State Boulevard to Taylor Road.
[13:25] Up close a little bit, this is the
[13:27] southern portion phase one from Golden
[13:30] State to Hawkeye.
[13:32] Middle portion is phase two Hawkeye to
[13:36] Monte Vista. North portion is Monte
[13:39] Vista to Taylor.
[13:42] Now what do we have in the specs? We
[13:44] have 400 working days given to the
[13:46] contractor to construct the project. Uh
[13:49] 10 days after notice to proceed, the
[13:52] contractor has to start construction
[13:54] activities. So let's say we issue notice
[13:56] to proceed at the end of the month 400
[14:00] calendar days or working days, I'm
[14:02] sorry, working days. That would put us
[14:05] uh at an approximate completion date of
[14:07] midappril of 2028. That's assuming
[14:11] weather permitting us to continue with
[14:14] construction. If we have the wet winter
[14:16] that they are forecasting, there is no
[14:18] construction. So the dates will be
[14:20] extended.
[14:22] What we have asked or we have mandated
[14:26] uh in the construction in contract
[14:28] documents is that phase one and three be
[14:31] constructed simultaneously
[14:34] before
[14:36] uh phase two can be started. Those two
[14:39] phases have to be completed. So the
[14:41] section between Hawkeye and Monte Vista
[14:43] would be only constructed
[14:46] after the southern portion and the
[14:48] northern portion of the project have
[14:50] been completed. Work hours are limited
[14:52] to 7 am to 5:00 pm Monday through
[14:55] Friday. No work on the weekends or legal
[14:58] holidays. No night work is permitted and
[15:02] one lane will remain open in each
[15:04] direction at all times.
[15:07] All lanes will be open to traffic
[15:11] on Saturdays, Sundays, legal holidays
[15:14] after 400 p. p.m. on Friday and after
[15:16] 400 p p.m. the day before any legal
[15:19] holiday and any time that the contractor
[15:21] doesn't have any active construction in
[15:24] that particular lane.
[15:27] With all of that in mind, we advertised
[15:29] the project on June 23 and opened four
[15:32] bids on July 28.
[15:36] This is the tabulation of all four bids.
[15:39] We analyzed the bids, reviewed all the
[15:42] documents submitted for compliance with
[15:45] uh
[15:48] with the bid document requirements. I'm
[15:51] sorry. Uh
[15:53] when we determined that the lowest
[15:55] responsible responsive bidder was Tik
[15:57] Tok, the full name legal name is a
[16:00] Tyikert and Sun Inc. doing business as
[16:03] tighter construction for the bid amount
[16:06] of 20,280,558
[16:11] which is just about 5.9 million below
[16:14] engineers estimate.
[16:18] So the motion before you and our
[16:20] recommendation and request is to award
[16:22] bid and approve an agreement between the
[16:24] city and hyper construction in the
[16:27] stated amount plus 10%
[16:31] uh contingency in the amount of
[16:33] $2,28,000.
[16:37] Any questions?
[16:38] >> Questions?
[16:40] >> I hope I didn't go too fast. I was
[16:42] trying to make
[16:43] >> you good. Okay. So, uh, at this time
[16:45] we'll open the public comment and ask
[16:46] the city clerk to facilitate that public
[16:48] comment, please.
[16:49] >> Okay, we have no blue comment cards. We
[16:51] do have someone on remote participation.
[16:54] So, if you would like to speak regarding
[16:55] item 9A, please raise your hand or press
[16:58] star 9 and indicate.
[17:02] Otherwise, we will now seeing no comment
[17:06] on there, we'll move back to the council
[17:08] chambers. Does anyone like to comment
[17:09] regarding item 9A?
[17:11] Please come forward.
[17:20] Good evening. Um, so I guess the first
[17:23] question is how's Target going to do
[17:25] this construction for $5,5 million
[17:30] below cost?
[17:33] >> Our costs are not guaranteed. These are
[17:36] >> cost is 25,000.
[17:38] >> No, 26 million. 26 million. Okay, 26
[17:44] million. So, how does Tiger get 20
[17:46] million?
[17:48] >> That is their bid. That's how the
[17:50] bidding process works.
[17:52] >> So, their bid is well below
[17:54] >> direct comments. Just make your comments
[17:57] and
[17:57] >> he's the one that was answering the
[17:58] question. I don't even know who
[18:00] >> we in order to maintain a calm decorum
[18:02] in the room. We don't need to go back
[18:03] and forth. So please,
[18:04] >> no, the question I'm not going to ask
[18:06] the question
[18:08] at $20 million is well below the $26
[18:12] million which will cost the city again
[18:16] an extra cost. That's what they call
[18:18] that, right? So when they don't complete
[18:20] a project then and only then will the
[18:25] city be in carrying more cost. So the
[18:27] price will be over $26 million. You
[18:30] understand? Anyway,
[18:33] nobody
[18:36] the cost of construction
[18:40] when you have it below the bed will
[18:43] inevitably and always goes up over $26
[18:47] million. It will always happen. It never
[18:51] fails. They call extra costs.
[18:55] And so my question again is why and how
[18:59] is Tiger going to do a project for below
[19:03] cost.
[19:06] >> We'll answer the questions that after
[19:07] all.
[19:09] >> That's my question.
[19:10] >> Understood.
[19:13] » Is there anyone further that would like
[19:15] to speak regarding the item?
[19:17] >> Seeing no further comments.
[19:21] >> So Mr.
[19:22] Can you speak to all the roads you've
[19:24] done and what people are bidding in and
[19:26] how much under and how much over cost
[19:29] are they are we putting into it?
[19:31] >> A number of our projects have been
[19:32] closed well below engineers estimate and
[19:36] well below the bid that the contractor
[19:39] brought in. We don't we simply follow
[19:42] the uh public contract code which
[19:46] requires us to publicly advertise the
[19:48] project and award the project to the
[19:51] lowest responsible responsive bidder. We
[19:54] do not negotiate a contract with the
[19:56] contractor. We do not ask the contractor
[19:59] how can you do it for a certain price
[20:01] because that is negotiation. We review
[20:04] all the documents that is submitted and
[20:06] make a determination based on that. If
[20:09] they have followed all the requirements
[20:10] in the bid documents and requirements by
[20:13] law, which is all the registration that
[20:15] they're supposed to have, submit the uh
[20:18] bonds that they need to, the insurance
[20:20] that they need to, then they are
[20:22] responsible and responsive. That is the
[20:25] basis for the recommendation. Why do
[20:27] they have a lower price? They only know
[20:30] that. What I can say as far as engineers
[20:32] estimate, engineer's estimate is for
[20:35] budgeting purposes and that is based on
[20:38] the historic bid prices of a number of
[20:42] projects in the state. So we go to a
[20:44] database and receive that. It doesn't
[20:47] reflect the current bidding environment.
[20:50] It doesn't reflect three projects or
[20:53] three phases being done at the same
[20:55] time. It doesn't reflect the size of a
[20:59] contractor and their capability in
[21:01] staffing a project and actually doing
[21:03] the project in more efficient way.
[21:06] Our uh estimate was based on three
[21:08] phases consecutive and that's the only
[21:11] way we can put that together. There is
[21:13] no way for us to estimate efficiencies
[21:16] if the phases are done concurrently or
[21:20] in a different type of arrangement
[21:22] because that data is not available to
[21:24] us.
[21:25] So we basically wait until the bids come
[21:28] in and go through our process as the law
[21:30] requires us.
[21:31] >> Okay.
[21:32] >> Thank you.
[21:34] >> Yeah. Close public comment. Did you have
[21:35] a comment
[21:36] >> or what is your will?
[21:38] >> No.
[21:38] >> Motion to approve 9A.
[21:40] >> Second.
[21:41] >> Motion and second. Will you call the
[21:43] role, please?
[21:43] >> Council member Abram. Yes.
[21:45] >> Council member Bixel. Yes.
[21:46] >> Vice Mayor Monz. Yes.
[21:47] >> Council member Phillips. Yes. Mayor
[21:48] >> Back.
[21:49] >> Yes. That part passes with 5-0. And I
[21:51] believe you have one more part.
[21:54] Yes. The next item,
[21:59] » the next item is related to what we went
[22:02] over the project and that is uh we are
[22:05] requesting your approval of amendment
[22:06] number 22 for task order number 7A
[22:11] uh with uh NB5 for construction
[22:14] management inspection services for gear
[22:17] road uh rehabilitation project.
[22:21] Uh this is all in your staff report. Uh
[22:25] but overall the construction management
[22:27] inspection services are described or
[22:30] defined in three components. One is
[22:32] pre-construction which as the name
[22:35] suggests these are all the activities
[22:37] that we have to do in the leadup to the
[22:40] actual construction such as
[22:42] constructibility review, fire review,
[22:44] setting up the project, uh estimating
[22:46] the project cost and scheduling ahead of
[22:50] receiving the schedule from the
[22:52] contractor. The next component is
[22:54] construction management and inspection
[22:56] which is again this is when construction
[22:59] is actively ongoing and that is to make
[23:01] sure that we have enough oversight to
[23:04] make sure that whatever is constructed
[23:05] is in accordance and compliance with the
[23:08] construction documents.
[23:11] Post construction. As the name suggests,
[23:13] this is after the construction is
[23:14] completed to make sure that all checks
[23:17] and balances are properly documented.
[23:20] All the records are complete and
[23:22] finances are all uh looked at and
[23:26] finalized so we can accept the project
[23:29] and also make a final payment to the
[23:31] contractor. Pre-onstruction services
[23:35] were approved by the council as task
[23:38] order number seven previously. So task
[23:41] order sum number 7A is in fact nothing
[23:45] other than an amendment to task order 7
[23:47] for the remainder of the activities.
[23:51] So that is our proposed task order to
[23:54] you. If you're interested these are all
[23:56] the breakdown of various subtask
[23:59] involved in each category and in great
[24:03] detail. Those are in exhibit W attached
[24:06] to your staff report if you're
[24:08] interested to get into that much detail.
[24:12] So, we have a motion before you for
[24:14] approving uh task order number 7A with
[24:17] NB5 for construction management
[24:20] inspection services in the amount of
[24:23] 3,676
[24:25] 80576
[24:27] cents.
[24:29] >> Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Pesh?
[24:32] Okay. Okay, at this time I'll open the
[24:33] public comment and ask the city clerk to
[24:35] facilitate the public comment.
[24:36] >> Okay, we have no blue cards. Um, if
[24:38] anyone's joining remotely and would like
[24:40] to speak, you may raise your virtual
[24:42] hand now or press star 9 to indicate
[24:44] that you would like to speak.
[24:47] >> Seeing no comment online, would anyone
[24:49] in the public like to speak regarding
[24:50] this item? Please come forward to
[24:52] lectern.
[24:54] Seeing no comment, mayor.
[24:56] >> Okay, we will close public comment.
[24:57] Bring it back to council.
[24:58] >> Did you have a question?
[24:59] >> I have a quick comment. So, you know,
[25:01] this is this is like the last piece of
[25:03] the the Gear Road project. And just for
[25:06] the public's edification, you know, when
[25:08] you look at $27 million, how it all adds
[25:10] up, I asked Director Mareno for, okay,
[25:13] break it down for all the different
[25:14] funding sources and 75% or or more if my
[25:19] calculations were included everything um
[25:21] is not our own local dollars. You know,
[25:24] only about 25% is measure A. So, I just
[25:27] want to commend your staff for, you
[25:29] know, using our local dollars wisely and
[25:31] going after all the other things so we
[25:33] can take on a big project like this and
[25:35] still have wiggle room to do other
[25:37] things. So, with that, I'll move to
[25:38] approve.
[25:39] >> Second. Have a
[25:41] >> motion to second. We call the role,
[25:42] please.
[25:42] >> Council member Abram, yes.
[25:43] >> Council member Bixel, yes.
[25:44] >> Vice Mayor Monet. Yes.
[25:45] >> Council member Phillips. Yes.
[25:46] >> Mayor Bill Black.
[25:47] >> Yes.
[25:48] >> 50. Thank you, Rod Doctor.
[25:51] >> Okay. Item C, general plan amendment.
[25:54] And I believe Oh, Miss Warernner, it's
[25:56] not a birthday game, is it?
[25:58] >> No.
[26:00] >> But thank you for that birthday present.
[26:03] >> Um, so the item before you tonight is um
[26:06] the council to consider the adoption of
[26:08] the 2331
[26:11] um or six cycle housing element. Um I'm
[26:14] actually not going to do the
[26:15] presentation. I'm going to turn it over
[26:16] to our consultant Andrew Hill um with
[26:19] Diet and Batia, the urban um and
[26:21] regional planners. Andrew,
[26:32] » excuse me. Thanks, Adrian. Um, good
[26:34] evening, mayor, council members. Um, so
[26:36] tonight we're pleased to introduce the
[26:39] uh six cycle housing element and related
[26:41] general plan and zoning amendments. It's
[26:43] been a long road to get here, including
[26:45] multiple rounds of review um with the
[26:48] California Department of Housing and
[26:49] Community Development or HCD. But on
[26:52] July 3rd, the state issued a letter
[26:54] finding that if the city adopts the
[26:56] housing element as revised together with
[26:58] the zoning amendments, um Cherlock can
[27:00] be found in compliance with um state
[27:02] housing law. And so the purpose of the
[27:05] item tonight is to provide a brief
[27:07] overview of the six cycle housing
[27:09] element and related zoning amendments to
[27:12] hear public comments and if appropriate
[27:14] for the council to adopt um the housing
[27:16] element and related general plan and
[27:18] zoning amendments. Um I had a longer
[27:21] presentation which I'm going to cut back
[27:22] to 10 minutes or less. Um but I'm happy
[27:25] to come back and answer any more
[27:26] questions or provide detail uh if you if
[27:29] you do have questions. So let me know.
[27:32] Um, one of the core components of the
[27:34] housing element is the sites inventory.
[27:37] It's a list of sites within the city of
[27:40] Turlock that are available for housing
[27:41] development during the period. Um, it is
[27:44] how the city demonstrates that the
[27:47] zoning map has adequate capacity to meet
[27:50] Turlock's assessed share of the regional
[27:52] housing need, which for the this current
[27:54] 8-year period is 5,82
[27:58] units. Um those 5,82 units are broken
[28:02] out into different income categories.
[28:04] The way you demonstrate capacity for
[28:06] lower income housing is by demonstrating
[28:09] adequate capacity for higher density um
[28:12] housing at 20 dwelling units per acre or
[28:14] more. State law establishes certain
[28:17] requirements for um housing sites that
[28:20] are identified to meet lower income um
[28:23] arena obligations. um they're
[28:25] essentially meant to uh encourage cities
[28:27] to put forward the most shovel ready
[28:29] sites.
[28:31] Um and so in putting together the
[28:33] inventory, we first did an assessment of
[28:35] uh projects that are currently in the
[28:37] development pipeline. Projects that are
[28:39] permitted or constructed after June 2023
[28:42] can be counted towards that requirement
[28:45] for um 5,82 units. Currently there are
[28:48] 14 projects in the development pipeline
[28:51] um that have a capacity for um 1137
[28:55] units. So those were deducted from that
[28:58] um 5,82.
[29:00] Additionally, we looked at um under
[29:02] current zoning, you know, looked at um
[29:04] vacant land that is zoned for
[29:06] residential uses. We looked at capacity
[29:08] in the downtown area. Uh we looked at
[29:10] capacity in the Morgan Ranch master plan
[29:12] area and we accounted for ADU
[29:14] development. And when you add up all of
[29:16] those things, um there's currently the
[29:19] zoning map has a capacity for uh 456
[29:22] units, which is about 78% of the way
[29:25] there to the to the target. Not quite
[29:27] there, though. And notably, there was a
[29:30] deficit of um land that's zoned for
[29:34] higher densities that are deemed
[29:35] affordable to lower income units. And
[29:37] so, the housing element proposes a
[29:39] reszoning strategy that can bridge that
[29:41] gap. That strategy involves creation of
[29:44] a new commercial residential mixeduse
[29:47] zone. It would apply to 52 properties um
[29:50] that are vacant or underutilized on
[29:52] commercial corridors um in Turlock.
[29:56] Importantly, all the property owners
[29:58] maintain their current development
[30:00] rights. If they wish to develop
[30:02] their properties uh consistent with
[30:04] current commercial zoning, they have the
[30:06] right to do that. This new zone gives
[30:08] them the option to also develop multif
[30:10] family housing on their properties if
[30:12] they choose to. And the purpose of this
[30:14] zone is to demonstrate um to the state
[30:17] that the that Turlock zoning map has
[30:19] adequate capacity to meet that
[30:21] requirement for 5,82 units. Um and also
[30:24] to provide more opportunities for
[30:26] workforce housing in Turlock that that
[30:28] can go for service workers, teachers,
[30:30] public servants, and other people who
[30:32] work in Turlock and and make less than
[30:34] 80% of the countywide median income.
[30:37] Uh the four corridors where uh that
[30:40] where the reszone sites are located are
[30:42] North Golden State, Gear Road, West
[30:44] Main, and Southlander. It's not all the
[30:46] properties in those corridors. It's uh
[30:48] select properties that meet the criteria
[30:50] identified by the state.
[30:52] Um and then when you add the 4,500 units
[30:56] that you get under current zoning plus
[30:58] the additional capacity that you get
[31:00] with this resoning, um the city would
[31:03] have uh capacity to to meet um that
[31:06] requirement for 5,82 units with a buffer
[31:10] just in case any of the sites don't
[31:11] develop as envisioned. That buffer is
[31:13] important um to make sure that you will
[31:15] always have capacity to to meet the
[31:17] state requirements.
[31:19] Uh and this is a map of the uh of the
[31:21] site citywide. Um the second component
[31:25] uh key component of the housing element
[31:27] is the action plan which is a program of
[31:29] implementing actions. It's organized
[31:32] around uh six goals very similar to the
[31:35] fifth cycle element. Um and it those the
[31:38] action plans contains 56 programs
[31:40] that'll be implemented um over the
[31:42] eight-year cycle. Uh it's important to
[31:44] note me many of these programs uh
[31:47] reiterate commitments that the city has
[31:49] already made for example sidewalk
[31:51] programs. So it's not a commitment of
[31:54] new new funding requirements for you
[31:55] know 56 new programs. We've wherever
[31:58] possible we've uh reiterated commitments
[32:00] that the city has already made.
[32:03] Um I just wanted to touch briefly on the
[32:06] revisions in your packet tonight. You'll
[32:08] see there's a very colorful version.
[32:10] It's red lines of all the changes that
[32:12] were made in response to comments um by
[32:14] HCD and then there's also a clean
[32:16] version. Content is the same. Um just if
[32:19] you wanted to follow along inside
[32:21] baseball and see what the changes were,
[32:23] that's why the redline version is there.
[32:25] HCD really focused on two things in
[32:28] their in their review. one was um asking
[32:31] for additional analysis to demonstrate
[32:34] the viability of uh for of redevelopment
[32:37] for non- vacant sites that are included
[32:39] on the housing element. And so in
[32:41] response to that, we've included a new
[32:43] appendix F that goes site by sight with
[32:45] all those 52 sites, provides um
[32:48] additional analysis and support uh to to
[32:51] demonstrate to the state that that those
[32:53] are real viable candidates for
[32:54] redevelopment within the period. Um
[32:56] there's also a table of indicators
[32:58] indicating that all of those sites
[33:00] checked three boxes have at least three
[33:01] indicators of redevelopment potential.
[33:04] Additionally, they asked for analysis of
[33:06] downtown development trends and the
[33:08] potential for mixeduse development and
[33:09] non-residential development. So, we've
[33:11] added that into that same appendix as
[33:13] well. And we did an analysis of recent
[33:16] uh sales prices and rents in comparison
[33:19] to household income to support our
[33:21] projections for moderate income housing.
[33:24] Um and then the second focus of HCD's
[33:27] review was on the programs in the
[33:29] housing action plan. Um and here they
[33:32] really focused on uh identifying uh
[33:35] amendments to the Turle Municipal Code
[33:37] to bring to bring it in line with new
[33:39] state laws. I'm sure you're aware every
[33:41] year for the past several years there
[33:42] have been a raft of new laws. Um and so
[33:45] these programs um address uh those new
[33:49] requirements and bring the Turle
[33:51] Municipal Code into compliance with um
[33:53] state law. And the second uh focus of
[33:56] their review was on programs addressing
[33:58] disproportionate needs in census tracks
[34:00] that have a higher concentration of
[34:02] lower income residents. Um and this is
[34:04] what the state calls affirmatively
[34:06] forwarding uh fair housing. Um and so
[34:09] there's a number of programs there um
[34:11] that address those those requirements
[34:13] and that was another focus of the
[34:14] state's review. Again, these programs
[34:17] reiterate commitments for the large part
[34:18] that the city has already made as
[34:20] opposed to identifying, you know, new
[34:22] programs that need in need of new
[34:23] funding.
[34:25] Um and so let me touch on quickly the
[34:28] zoning amendments. Also in your packet
[34:30] tonight is the the reasonzoning to
[34:32] create this new commercial residential
[34:34] mixeduse zone. Again, the purpose of
[34:37] this is to demonstrate that that the the
[34:40] zoning map has adequate capacity to meet
[34:42] um to for at least 5,82 units over the cycle. Um it gives property
[34:49] owners the option to develop housing,
[34:50] but does not requirement require that
[34:52] they do that. in order to ensure that if
[34:55] a property owner wants to develop
[34:57] non-resident 100% non-residential uses,
[35:00] this zone creates four subzones so that
[35:04] um a property owner who's currently in
[35:07] the CO district maintains all of those
[35:10] same standards if they want to develop
[35:12] 100% um nonresidential uses. a property
[35:16] owner in the CH district would be in the
[35:19] new uh subzone C and that ensures they
[35:22] have all of the same development rights
[35:24] now. They're not losing anything. If
[35:26] they choose to develop uh with mixed use
[35:28] or uh residential development, well then
[35:30] they're subject to the new standards um
[35:32] that are in the CRMU zone. Uh important
[35:36] to note, uh sites that are being
[35:38] reszoned to accommodate a a shortfall of
[35:42] um of units, as in this case, are are um
[35:45] subject to certain requirements under
[35:47] state law. Um and all of the all of the
[35:50] 52 sites that have been identified for
[35:52] this new CRMU zone meet those meet those
[35:54] requirements.
[35:56] Um this is a quick snapshot of the
[35:58] development standards for the CRMU zone.
[36:01] Um it uh really mirrors the um RH
[36:05] district with a few modifications as
[36:08] required to meet the requirements for
[36:10] sites reszone to uh to accommodate a
[36:12] arena shortfall.
[36:15] Um state law requires that uh the the
[36:18] general plan land use map and uh zoning
[36:21] be consistent. And so in order to ensure
[36:23] that consistency um there's a few
[36:25] targeted uh updates to the land use and
[36:28] economic development that are required.
[36:29] Essentially, we've created an a
[36:31] corresponding land use classification
[36:34] which we're calling commercial
[36:35] residential mixed use. This is a
[36:37] definition for it. And the general the
[36:40] general plan land use diagram has been
[36:42] updated. So those same 52 sites um now
[36:44] have the new um CRMU land use
[36:47] classification.
[36:49] Um and so quick look ahead. Tonight is
[36:51] the uh the first reading of the zoning
[36:53] and next week would be the second
[36:55] reading of the zoning following which we
[36:57] would resubmit um to HCD to demonstrate
[37:00] that we've done what they asked the city
[37:02] to do in the letter of July 3rd and um
[37:06] that's my quick presentation. I'm happy
[37:08] to answer any questions or provide more
[37:09] detail if you'd like
[37:11] >> questions.
[37:13] Okay, no questions. Then I would ask uh
[37:16] I'll open the public comment, ask the
[37:17] clerk to facilitate it. So, we have no
[37:20] blue comment speaker cards for this
[37:22] item. Um, anyone joining remotely, if
[37:24] you'd like to speak on this item, please
[37:26] raise your virtual hand or press star
[37:28] nine to speak. Seeing none, we'll move
[37:31] back to the council chambers. Would
[37:33] anyone like to speak regarding item 9 C.
[37:42] » Good evening, uh, council, staff,
[37:45] community. Mil Treeweiler. Our plan our
[37:48] Turlock planning department along with
[37:49] consultants been working on this tur
[37:51] turlock housing element for over two
[37:53] years. The residents of Turlock are very
[37:55] fortunate to have a professional
[37:56] planning department with experienced and
[37:58] well educated staff members here in
[38:00] Turlock.
[38:02] On July 18th, 2024 at the planning
[38:05] commission meeting, there was a Turlock
[38:07] housing element study session to prepare
[38:09] the housing element. The housing element
[38:10] is one of the required seven mandatory
[38:13] elements combined in contained in the
[38:16] city general plan. A notice by the city
[38:20] that the first public review period for
[38:23] the draft housing element ran from
[38:25] October 2nd through November 1st, 2024.
[38:30] Starting that public comment uh may be
[38:33] submitted in writing. Additionally, the
[38:34] planning commission will review the
[38:36] draft housing element at a public
[38:38] meeting on October 3rd, 2024,
[38:41] and community members are invited to
[38:43] attend. The state responded on no April
[38:48] 30th, 2025.
[38:50] The California Department of Housing and
[38:52] Community Development completed a review
[38:54] of the draft housing element and found
[38:56] that while the draft addresses
[38:59] uh many of the statutory requirements,
[39:02] some further revisions are necessary to
[39:04] substantially comply with the state's
[39:06] housing element law.
[39:09] Multiple plans were submitted to the
[39:11] state review and they were all turned
[39:14] down by the state. It seems obvious to
[39:15] me that our planning staff and
[39:17] consultant were not allowed to make or
[39:19] present solutions to the issue of not
[39:22] complying to the state because of
[39:24] pressure from the city managers. The
[39:26] city managers are at will employees
[39:29] controlled by the current city of
[39:30] Turlock elected officials.
[39:33] Residents of Turlock remember that
[39:35] anyone at this dis
[39:37] almost anything they want but that
[39:40] doesn't mean that what they say is true.
[39:44] This update must be passed and submitted
[39:46] to the state for review tonight. Thank
[39:49] you.
[39:52] » Are there anyone else that would like to
[39:54] speak on item?
[39:56] >> Seeing no further comment, Mayor.
[39:59] >> All right. I'll close public comment. Uh
[40:01] for the record, uh Dr. Murphy, um
[40:04] tonight, if we approve this, it's the
[40:07] review's over or don't we have a second
[40:08] reading or something?
[40:09] >> We have a second reading two weeks from
[40:11] now.
[40:11] >> Okay. Thank you. what does it
[40:14] >> um I just have a brief comment. Um this
[40:16] has been a very long process and kind of
[40:19] bumpy bumpy and ciruitous at times, but
[40:21] um thank you for the staff for doing all
[40:23] of this work for this long. And I I just
[40:25] do want to note something that's buried
[40:26] in the housing element that a few years
[40:30] ago, I don't have the exact date, we we
[40:32] mailed out like 1500 surveys to people
[40:35] and that is considerable community
[40:38] engagement beyond what we've done in
[40:40] previous housing elements. So, um I I
[40:43] think that's really notable and I hope
[40:44] that when we do this next time, we can
[40:47] move away from snail mail and get a
[40:48] little bit more in the 21st century, but
[40:50] um I there's a lot of good in here.
[40:52] There's hundreds of hours of work in
[40:54] here. So, thank you to everyone
[40:55] involved. And uh with that, I will move
[40:56] to approve.
[40:57] >> Second.
[40:58] >> Motion in a second. We call the role,
[40:59] please.
[41:00] >> Council member Abram. Yes.
[41:01] >> Council member Bixel. Yes.
[41:02] >> Vice Mayor MZ. Yes.
[41:03] >> Council member Phillips. Yes. Mayor
[41:04] >> Goodl.
[41:04] >> Yes. And it passes on a 5-0. Thank you
[41:06] for that.
[41:07] >> All right. Uh this is the time set aside
[41:09] for the general public participation.
[41:11] I'll ask the city clerk to facilitate
[41:12] this public comment.
[41:14] >> All right. Well, we'll begin with blue
[41:16] speaker comment cards. I have three of
[41:18] them as the first one is Sean Sheridan.
[41:21] Please come forward.
[41:27] All right. Mayor and councel, I'm here
[41:29] to uh publicly thank the new city
[41:31] manager regarding an abandoned vehicle.
[41:35] I worked with the Turlock Police
[41:36] Department for more than a year and was
[41:38] ultimately stonewalled.
[41:41] I sent Dr. Murphy a single respectful
[41:43] email and the matter was solved in 72
[41:46] hours. So, thank you truly.
[41:50] I am also here for another reason. In
[41:53] about 3 weeks, I plan to submit a
[41:56] comprehensive citizens complaint to the
[41:59] city manager regarding the handling of
[42:01] public records and public record
[42:03] requests.
[42:04] I will request that the matter undergo
[42:06] an independent third-party legal review.
[42:09] I will also request that the city
[42:11] manager then publicly report to the city
[42:13] council the findings and actions taken.
[42:16] The purpose is to solve issues and
[42:20] identify criminal behavior so that
[42:22] specific staff can be held formally
[42:24] accountable.
[42:26] In two weeks, I plan to return to this
[42:28] city council and share examples of why
[42:30] investigations are needed. I will share
[42:33] one example today. It comes from P
[42:37] request 25-221
[42:39] in December.
[42:42] I'm holding up an unsigned
[42:45] uninitialed version of the signature
[42:48] page for an already issued building
[42:51] permit
[42:52] released as an official record. The
[42:55] signature and initials were deliberately
[42:58] omitted. I was recently informed as to
[43:01] who supplied this, but that person
[43:03] cannot be the one held the only one held
[43:06] accountable. The real culprit is the
[43:09] genius in the building that thought that
[43:11] was a good idea.
[43:13] the genius who forgot to have the
[43:15] pre-markings of the check boxes removed
[43:19] so that it would not be obvious that the
[43:22] building and safety division pre-marked
[43:24] the workers compensation exempt checkbox
[43:27] that no employees would be used rather
[43:30] than letting the signer of the permit
[43:33] mark it under penalty of perjury.
[43:35] And instead of letting the signer mark
[43:38] as authorized agent or licensed
[43:40] contractor, the city of Turlock
[43:43] pre-marked the owner checkbox.
[43:46] The actual signed version, the other
[43:49] paper I have revealed that the signer
[43:53] did not mark any of the 11 checkbox
[43:56] options on the page, none, and yet
[44:00] received the permit.
[44:04] Next speaker is Candace Build.
[44:15] Hi. Yep. I'm Candace. I'm the one that
[44:18] doesn't like to talk in public and I'm
[44:19] the one that's irritated because you
[44:20] guys aren't holding anybody accountable.
[44:22] So, we've got uh issues here with and
[44:24] you um u Mr. Murphy said that you were
[44:26] going to look into this for me and I
[44:27] don't believe you did anything because
[44:29] you said that the uh Enrique did
[44:32] everything fine. Um if you guys have
[44:33] checked your emails, you'll see that he
[44:35] did not because if he had checked off
[44:36] the item, it would not be still flooding
[44:38] my floor. Is that enough water damage
[44:40] for you guys to call it actually what it
[44:41] is? Because And then he didn't even look
[44:43] at anything else cuz if he would have
[44:45] This is right next to my front door.
[44:47] This is a bookshelf.
[44:50] This is a closeup of the bookshelf. This
[44:53] right here mold
[44:55] one section right there in the middle
[44:58] right there. That's what it is. Okay.
[45:00] You guys are not you guys aren't holding
[45:02] him accountable. And then you said that
[45:03] the records request was done correctly.
[45:05] No, it wasn't. I asked for four
[45:06] addresses. I received two. And then
[45:09] Enrique
[45:10] with that P that I have. I have uh
[45:13] paperwork showing that he has been
[45:14] working with my landlord for for five
[45:17] years. I have his initials on all of
[45:19] those um signoffs. And then he was
[45:22] working with my landlord together.
[45:24] There's an email trail of them
[45:25] discussing back and forth what what uh
[45:28] day works best for you and what's this.
[45:29] I thought it was supposed to be an
[45:30] independent the website. Your guys' city website says that if we need
[45:35] something with our housing, we can ask
[45:37] for it and it's supposed to be an
[45:38] independent. I'm sorry, but last time I
[45:40] checked, the good old boys don't get to
[45:42] communicate together and have it be
[45:43] independent. They showed up together.
[45:45] They they
[45:47] coordinated their own schedules. And you
[45:48] know what they did? They scheduled it
[45:50] for the exact day and time of my very
[45:52] first cardiac appointment. It took me
[45:54] four months to make it and I had to push
[45:56] it out again. So, you guys are allowing
[45:58] him to actively mess with my health at
[45:59] this point. I mean, more than they
[46:01] already have. I mean, I don't know what
[46:02] else I need to do. Maybe I need to file
[46:04] a tort or something or getting like one
[46:06] of my own attorneys involved here
[46:07] because this is ridiculous the the
[46:09] amount of like you just are just signing
[46:11] off on whatever you guys want and I
[46:12] don't understand. And then you take the
[46:14] word of this this uh this report that
[46:16] you got from environmental science
[46:18] services. Okay, I have an email right
[46:20] here.
[46:22] This one right here from him from the
[46:24] same guy and he says clearly it says we
[46:26] should we should put you on the schedule
[46:28] as soon as possible as soon as Monday.
[46:30] You definitely have a problem.
[46:33] He didn't show. I called him
[46:36] email from him. I had your landlord call
[46:38] me this morning and he's questioning our
[46:40] experience. I'm sending over references.
[46:41] I'll call you and we'll get back to you
[46:43] when when that's when they've okayed it.
[46:45] So, he's a he had stopped my attempt at
[46:48] an independent and then you guys were
[46:50] supposed to be my backup. You guys were
[46:52] supposed to support me because I am your
[46:54] resident. And what did you do? You sided
[46:56] with my landlord.
[46:58] That's what you did. You sided with my
[46:59] landlord and you sided with some guy who
[47:00] doesn't even have any any uh
[47:03] certifications at all. And he clearly
[47:05] tells me it's fine. But then when he
[47:07] comes out with my landlord after
[47:08] discussing what kind of testers they're
[47:10] going to get, what kind of this and
[47:11] that, he comes out with not a tester. He
[47:12] comes on the surface only. Of course
[47:14] it's going to say that it's dry. Of
[47:16] course. What else is it going to say?
[47:21] >> Lesie Stokes.
[47:33] » Good evening. So,
[47:36] first of all, let's talk about the
[47:38] fireboard that we're supposed to get
[47:40] that I haven't seen.
[47:42] Right. We were supposed to get that so
[47:44] we could study on whether or not Turlock
[47:45] could get a fire chief and fire marshal
[47:49] of its own. We haven't gotten that yet.
[47:52] So I'm wondering where that is.
[47:55] Secondly,
[47:56] your words, not mine. Secondly, right, I
[48:00] want to talk about data centers because
[48:03] the county is now being courted
[48:08] by lobbyists of data centers.
[48:12] Patterson is in it. Modesto is in it.
[48:15] Modesto even has a site.
[48:18] So I'm going to ask you again, right?
[48:21] What's best for Turlock?
[48:25] Because none of you, not one of you,
[48:28] this is not a Democratic or
[48:32] Republican issue.
[48:34] This is a people issue. And everybody
[48:37] here knows farmers here. So, I'm going
[48:41] to need for y'all to just say we ban all
[48:46] data centers.
[48:48] This needs to happen. Now,
[48:51] if Modesto does it,
[48:54] they still taking our water, aren't
[48:55] they?
[48:57] So, we need to do that.
[49:00] Thirdly, to the new city manager,
[49:04] welcome.
[49:06] However, I understand that you have
[49:10] military background.
[49:13] I'm going to need for you to stop that.
[49:16] No militant
[49:21] pushing around people,
[49:24] right?
[49:25] You're going to need to follow the line.
[49:28] This is the way this is going to go.
[49:30] Because
[49:33] trust me, at $1.3 million,
[49:36] not seeing it.
[49:38] Not.
[49:40] So, I'm going to need for you to play by
[49:43] the rules. That means your no big
[49:46] contracts.
[49:48] Put those behind you.
[49:52] I want all of this stuff to stop. And
[49:55] y'all are sitting out here with we're
[49:57] being courted by data center lobbyists.
[49:59] Do you get that?
[50:02] And this needs to stop. Patterson is in
[50:04] it. Modesto's in it. When's it going to
[50:07] be Turlock? Because we're slotted for
[50:09] three of them.
[50:11] We don't want this problem.
[50:13] You're going to hurt the people who
[50:15] actually live here,
[50:18] right? These are your constituents, not
[50:20] mine. Yours. And it needs to happen. I
[50:25] don't need to go through all the details
[50:26] that data centers can do because you've
[50:29] all seen it,
[50:32] every one of you.
[50:35] >> Brad Bates,
[50:47] » greetings, um, Dr. Murphy and Attorney
[50:51] Luchi. I hope I have that right. Welcome
[50:54] to Turlock. Okay, two guesses. Montana
[50:58] Park. Just curious, how's it coming?
[51:01] Went by the other day. Uh, not a lot of
[51:03] activity. It's been on the drawing board
[51:05] now for over 10 years. We've had two
[51:07] launch ceremonies, funds committed,
[51:10] county level, state level, on-site
[51:12] update, etc. Goals of the city council,
[51:15] in my opinion, safety, essential
[51:17] services, quality of life. This that's
[51:19] part of that component. Recently, there
[51:21] were a lot of press releases, social
[51:23] media, and articles about Chick-fil-A
[51:25] coming. I think that's great. I really
[51:26] do. It's a feather in our proverbial
[51:28] cap. But it was quoted that Turlock uh
[51:31] had been fighting for five years to to
[51:33] make this happen. Now, I'm not sure who
[51:35] you were fighting with, but nonetheless,
[51:37] my point is, isn't a multi-use regional
[51:41] park for the historically underserved
[51:44] West Side worth fighting for? Now, I
[51:47] know there's a lot of activity going on.
[51:49] These things take time. There's steps to
[51:50] follow, levels of bureaucracy to
[51:53] navigate, resecuring the funds that were
[51:55] promised, etc., etc. Staff has a lot on
[51:57] their plate, and I'm sure that director
[52:00] uh Fiser already has quite a substantial
[52:03] file on this project. Turlock has a
[52:05] history of doing things well. We have
[52:07] proven that with the soccer complex,
[52:09] Kadetti Park, the Columbia Pool. I hope
[52:12] that that continues. Now, pickle ball is
[52:15] the fastest growing sport in the world.
[52:17] Has been for several years. Yes, I am a
[52:19] part of that group and there's a large
[52:21] group of folks, ages, ethnicities, all
[52:23] parts of Turlock who are really
[52:25] interested and hopeful in seeing that
[52:27] this project will occur sooner rather
[52:29] than later. Uh, and I agree a lot of
[52:33] other cities in our region are doing
[52:34] some really nice park projects. You're
[52:36] probably aware of them. Modesto series,
[52:38] Oakdale, Los Bannis just did a beautiful
[52:40] project uh that they just opened about
[52:42] uh two weeks ago. Even Little Riverbank.
[52:45] I got a minute left. I want to tell you
[52:48] about Nathan real quick. Nathan is 12
[52:51] years old. Uh he plays sometimes with
[52:53] our pickle ball group. Nathan started
[52:56] out as a junior. He is now ranked 14 in
[52:59] the nation in his age group. This kid is
[53:02] phenomenal. I call him Mongoose. That's
[53:04] my my nickname. He is fearless. He is
[53:07] ferocious. He's quick. He can beat any
[53:10] pickle ball player in Turlock. Hands
[53:13] down. He's 12 years old now. I think I
[53:16] think Nathan uh I believe he's in
[53:18] Livingston. I wouldn't try to pick an
[53:20] ethnicity, but if I did, I'm going to
[53:22] take a guess. I would say probably
[53:23] Vietnamese. Doesn't matter. If we had
[53:26] courts here in Turlock, Nathan would be
[53:28] playing here in Turlock. And I think
[53:30] there's a lot of Nathans out there on
[53:32] the west side or in the entire town and
[53:35] there's a lot of people that are trying
[53:38] to encourage and mentor. Uh it's a great
[53:40] opportunity. So when we talk about the
[53:43] kids, remember time 10 years, 10 years.
[53:47] When we talk about our kids and we talk
[53:49] about time,
[53:52] I'll [clears throat] just finish my
[53:53] sentence.
[53:55] Uh when we talk about kids in time,
[53:56] remember for 10 years now, there are
[53:59] some kids that were probably in their
[54:01] early ages, five, six, seven, eight.
[54:04] They're now gone. They're off with their
[54:06] lives. We missed an opportunity. But so
[54:09] I would like to have you refocus on uh
[54:13] the park. Thank you.
[54:15] >> Well, now we move to our remote
[54:17] participants. If you're joining remotely
[54:18] and would like to speak on public
[54:20] participation, please raise your hand.
[54:22] Um or now press star nine. We do have
[54:25] our first guest, which is Ramon
[54:26] Rodriguez.
[54:28] Raone, go ahead and speak.
[54:32] >> Uh good evening everyone. Can everyone
[54:34] hear me?
[54:37] >> We can hear you. It is adjusting it now.
[54:40] Go ahead and continue.
[54:43] >> Good evening, madame mayor, city council
[54:45] members, members of the public. I just
[54:48] recently got back from Modesto City
[54:50] Council meeting online on Zoom as well
[54:53] regarding AI data centers.
[54:56] It's happening everywhere. People all
[54:59] over the country. This is not a
[55:01] political issue. This is a common sense
[55:03] issue that having a data center
[55:06] especially in Turlock
[55:11] moratoriums we need to put infinite
[55:13] pause and bands on AI data centers
[55:15] because honestly
[55:18] if we have a data center in Turlock
[55:21] it's going to ruin our town it's going
[55:24] to cost our utility bills going to go up
[55:27] way up because
[55:30] the amount of energy
[55:31] the amount of water and the amount of
[55:34] land that the AI data center is going to
[55:36] use, it's going to ruin the charm of a
[55:38] small town and there's like a lot of
[55:41] evidence, a lot of data, everything that
[55:44] having an AI data center is not going to
[55:46] be a good fit for Turlock.
[55:48] So, I implore you all that use that you
[55:53] use all the selling walls that you have
[55:55] on the books to tell the AI data centers
[55:57] that they should not build because
[56:01] We are living in a time where land is
[56:04] limited, water is being uh running low.
[56:09] We are in the middle of a heat crisis.
[56:12] Climate change is happening all over the
[56:14] world.
[56:16] And you're seeing everyone from
[56:18] Patterson to Modesto and all over
[56:20] California and the United States that
[56:21] people are that the people are saying no
[56:24] to data centers.
[56:26] Turlock as a town, we should not have an
[56:28] AI data center. We should focus on
[56:30] what's the most important part and to
[56:33] keep our town Turlock
[56:36] and tell the AI data centers to leave
[56:39] because we do not need it. We have
[56:42] farmland. We have everything
[56:46] and if we build a data center that's
[56:47] going to ruin uh the bread basket that
[56:50] was we call the central valley. That's
[56:51] what we hear from Mr.
[56:54] uh tree so many times that farmland
[56:56] supposed to be in farmland. We should
[56:58] not have a data center because that's
[57:00] going to take all of our water. And if
[57:02] we do have a data center, how are we
[57:05] going to eat? How are we going to
[57:06] survive? How are we going to have water?
[57:08] And also, it's going to put uh health
[57:11] problems to everyone living near a data
[57:14] center. So, people take this seriously.
[57:19] We should not have a data center. It's
[57:21] happening all over the country. And I
[57:25] implore you all to say no to data
[57:26] center. Thank you.
[57:29] There's no additional remote
[57:31] speakers indicating they want to
[57:33] comment. Um, anyone from the audience
[57:34] that would like to speak during public
[57:36] participation, please come forward to
[57:38] the lecture
[57:42] library.
[57:44] >> Good evening. I'm Karina Medosa and I am
[57:47] with the Turlock Public Library. Um, as
[57:50] we're getting ready for school, I want
[57:53] to say we do have a program called a
[57:56] thousand books before kindergarten. And
[57:58] a lot of people get that shock reaction
[58:00] of how is that even achievable? It is.
[58:05] It's one of those if you read three
[58:06] books a night, after a year you've
[58:08] reached a thousand books. It could be
[58:10] read by anybody. Neighbors,
[58:12] grandparents, babysitters, mom, dads, it
[58:15] could be read the same book. As we all
[58:18] know, kids love that same book you read
[58:20] night after night after night. That
[58:23] counts, too. Every single time. Why is
[58:25] that important? Because books have words
[58:28] that we don't use in like normal
[58:30] everyday language. You're exposing kids
[58:32] to vocabulary. You're exposing kids to
[58:34] narrative skills. So, they're able to
[58:37] learn what's going to happen next, a
[58:39] start, a beginning, and the middle. They learn all of that from a book. And
[58:44] most people say, "Well, why is that
[58:45] important?" They're two. third one.
[58:48] Anything else? Well, studies have shown
[58:52] if kids are read to before they even
[58:54] reach school, they learn how to read
[58:57] better. They learn how to pay attention.
[58:59] They learn how to listen. And they
[59:00] definitely learn how to sit. All key
[59:03] skills for kindergarten.
[59:05] And then one thing you think, oh, it's
[59:08] cute. It's adorable. But here's the
[59:09] thing. If they're not ready for
[59:10] kindergarten, they're not ready to
[59:12] learn. They're not ready to read. They may become behind. And then the
[59:16] behind keeps following them up once they
[59:19] reach the third grade. And after third
[59:21] grade, they're no longer learning to
[59:24] read. They're reading to learn. And once
[59:26] they're behind, it follows them through
[59:28] adulthood. And that's one of the kind of
[59:30] key indicators of success at their jobs,
[59:34] high schools, and even criminal
[59:37] activities. What do they have in common?
[59:39] Their literacy skills. So to kind of
[59:42] encourage all of the young littles, cute
[59:45] ones, to make it a positive, happy
[59:47] event, we like to celebrate the fact
[59:48] that we want people to reach out their
[59:50] kids. So we have 1,000 books before
[59:52] kindergarten. Um, at the 500 mark, they
[59:55] get a little bag. At the thousand mark,
[59:57] they get a little medal that these kids
[1:00:00] absolutely love. They will wear that
[1:00:03] medal to bed. The grandparents, they
[1:00:06] show everybody. It's like straight up
[1:00:08] metal that says, "I am a reader." they
[1:00:10] get a free book to kind of continue
[1:00:12] their journey. But in order to celebrate
[1:00:14] that, we are having um the Minnesota
[1:00:16] Children's Museum come out to do two
[1:00:18] programs on September 4th at 11:00 a.m.
[1:00:21] and then at 2:00. It is limited to 30 at
[1:00:24] each of these. So, we are requiring
[1:00:26] signups, but it's completely free to
[1:00:28] register. And also, even if you can't
[1:00:31] make it, you can still participate in
[1:00:33] the thousand books before kindergarten.
[1:00:35] If they're in TK, you know what? They
[1:00:37] haven't reached kindergarten yet, so
[1:00:39] they can still apply. And that's all
[1:00:41] I've got. So, thank you.
[1:00:44] >> Thank you. Are there any additional
[1:00:45] members that would like to speak during
[1:00:46] public participation? Please come forth.
[1:00:48] Mil
[1:00:53] Treeweiler, is getting rich and becoming
[1:00:55] wealthy the most important goal in
[1:00:57] human's lifetime? Do we humans have a
[1:01:00] responsibility to our children, our
[1:01:01] grandchildren, and our descendants?
[1:01:04] As adults and parents, the most
[1:01:05] important duty and responsibility is to
[1:01:08] plan for the future of our children and
[1:01:10] descendants. This is because our
[1:01:11] children, our grandchildren, and our
[1:01:13] descendants are too young or haven't
[1:01:15] been your born yet and can't do or plan
[1:01:19] for their own future. Just for your
[1:01:21] information, I want you to be aware that
[1:01:23] there is corruption here in Stannislas
[1:01:25] County. Most recently, the corruption in
[1:01:28] Stanas County's Stanco that's being
[1:01:32] prosecuted now after the top people
[1:01:35] there embezzled hundreds of thousands of
[1:01:37] dollars. The building industry will tell
[1:01:40] you there's plenty of farmland to grow
[1:01:41] food on. This is false. Recently, many
[1:01:44] farmers in the Central Valley have had
[1:01:46] to take their farmland out of production
[1:01:48] because of a lack of water. The building
[1:01:50] industry has not researched how little
[1:01:53] prime farmland is still left on the
[1:01:55] earth.
[1:01:56] Dave and the Building Industry
[1:01:58] Association do not seem to be concerned
[1:02:01] about the future of our children,
[1:02:03] grandchildren, and descendants. The
[1:02:06] worst part of it is some of these people
[1:02:08] may do corrupt things to make money.
[1:02:11] They may try to bribe you with money,
[1:02:14] with services for your home, or provide
[1:02:16] you with trips and other pleasures to
[1:02:18] get your vote. In some cases, they'll
[1:02:20] even try to blackmail you or intimidate
[1:02:23] you just to get their way.
[1:02:26] My last comment already been covered,
[1:02:28] but I'm going to cover it myself.
[1:02:31] We must guard against the introduction
[1:02:33] of data centers into Stannislos County.
[1:02:36] The people promoting these centers are
[1:02:38] not concerned what we uh that we live in
[1:02:42] an area with the best farmland on earth.
[1:02:46] Their concern is not what's best for our
[1:02:48] children and our grandchildren
[1:02:50] and our descendants, but how much money
[1:02:53] they can make. I'm not saying that
[1:02:56] there's not a need for more data
[1:02:58] centers. I'm saying this is not the
[1:03:00] place to build data centers. Not in
[1:03:03] Stannis County, not in the city of
[1:03:05] Turlock, and we should have a policy
[1:03:07] against it in the city of Turlock. We
[1:03:10] must aggressively fight against the data
[1:03:13] centers here in Stannislas County. Thank
[1:03:15] you.
[1:03:17] >> Are there any other people that wish to
[1:03:19] make public participation? Go ahead.
[1:03:30] Um on the subject of the data centers uh
[1:03:34] it's not something that I am really well
[1:03:37] informed about but I know a little bit
[1:03:40] um as I understand there already is
[1:03:42] connection with Amazon here in our area
[1:03:46] and um I haven't looked into that just
[1:03:49] heard that recently but um there seems
[1:03:52] to be an awful a lot of concern and a
[1:03:54] lot of things that are said uh
[1:03:57] that I don't know how we um actually
[1:04:00] verify
[1:04:02] how valid those things are about water
[1:04:04] use about energy. I've heard things
[1:04:06] about the water that goes back into the
[1:04:08] ground and it's you know now tainted and
[1:04:11] it's going to impact us and so these are
[1:04:13] very concerning things and uh we already
[1:04:16] have issues with our water, our
[1:04:18] groundwater and all that. Uh, and I
[1:04:21] would just really like to see the
[1:04:23] council take that to heart, hear what
[1:04:25] the people are saying. There's a lot of
[1:04:27] concern, way more than is here tonight,
[1:04:30] uh, about that issue. And I would also
[1:04:33] like to say I'd like to not see data
[1:04:35] centers here. Thank you.
[1:04:38] >> Is there anyone else from the public
[1:04:40] that would like to make a public
[1:04:41] comment?
[1:04:43] Seeing none, we have one more online
[1:04:45] that would like to make a public
[1:04:46] comment. Um L uh if you can please go
[1:04:50] ahead and speak.
[1:04:57] Oh, can you go ahead and try again?
[1:05:01] You are unmuted. You may need to unmute
[1:05:04] yourself.
[1:05:09] We will wait a couple more. We'll wait
[1:05:11] about 10 more seconds.
[1:05:25] Okay, we're unable to hear L. Um, seeing
[1:05:28] no additional speakers at this time,
[1:05:30] Mayor.
[1:05:31] >> Then I will close public comment
[1:05:34] and move on to city manager reports and
[1:05:38] updates. Dr. Murphy.
[1:05:45] Uh, first things first, would the
[1:05:47] council appreciate an update from uh,
[1:05:50] Director Fischer on Montana Park? Sounds
[1:05:52] great.
[1:05:52] >> I was going to ask him to give that to
[1:05:54] Mr. Bates separately.
[1:05:55] >> Okay.
[1:05:56] >> But if you if you would like to do
[1:05:57] >> I think for the public maybe we can
[1:06:00] Chris if you'll come up
[1:06:02] >> and as he's coming up not to waste any
[1:06:04] time. I just I I do want to make uh two
[1:06:06] comments. Uh, I think council's aware,
[1:06:09] maybe the public's not aware. I was
[1:06:11] proud to sit on the interview committee
[1:06:13] and I helped select the fire chief and
[1:06:16] the new fire marshal, the Turlock fire
[1:06:18] chief who's here and uh our new fire
[1:06:21] marshal who should be starting very
[1:06:23] soon. So I played a role in that and you
[1:06:26] know one thing I will promise you I will
[1:06:27] never run away from my military
[1:06:29] background. I served alongside of some
[1:06:31] of America's greatest heroes and
[1:06:33] dedicated public servants. A military
[1:06:35] leader is not also a militant leader. I
[1:06:39] try to be a collaborative leader,
[1:06:41] mission focused, and I would ask that
[1:06:42] gentleman to listen to Mr. Sheridan's
[1:06:45] own comments.
[1:06:48] » All right. Thank you. Um I am pleased to
[1:06:50] see since the last time we were here, we
[1:06:52] talked about getting Montana Park out to
[1:06:54] bid, you know, by the end of July. We
[1:06:56] are a little bit behind on that and some
[1:06:57] of the reason for that is we've had some
[1:06:59] public some really good public
[1:07:00] suggestions. So, making some of those
[1:07:01] changes and working through some of
[1:07:02] those things have delayed. And we've
[1:07:04] also had some really time-sensitive
[1:07:05] projects that we've delivered to the
[1:07:06] council. And thank you for making those
[1:07:08] decisions that have um once that bubble
[1:07:10] of um ARPA funds, you know, gets through
[1:07:13] here, we should have a little bit more
[1:07:14] bandwidth. And we look to get it out,
[1:07:15] you know, to bid in the next few weeks.
[1:07:17] And actively, and the good news is is
[1:07:18] we've been actively working on um
[1:07:20] additional funding opportunities. In
[1:07:21] fact, just yesterday, we submitted
[1:07:23] another um grant application for
[1:07:24] community resilience and heat and heat
[1:07:27] projects looking to, you know, cover
[1:07:29] some of the state shade structures. So,
[1:07:31] yeah, we're really excited about the the
[1:07:33] project and we we are continuing to
[1:07:34] focus on it.
[1:07:38] » Good enough. Thank you.
[1:07:39] >> Thanks.
[1:07:42] >> All right. And now we have council
[1:07:44] member comments, announcements, andor uh
[1:07:46] future items. Council member Abram,
[1:07:47] >> just a couple comments. Um, National
[1:07:49] Night Out was last week and it was
[1:07:51] great. So, thank you to everybody who
[1:07:52] took part in it. Um, I got to go to a
[1:07:54] couple events that were being held for
[1:07:56] the first time. So, it's a a community
[1:07:58] event that's still growing. Um, in the
[1:08:00] consent calendar tonight, one of the
[1:08:01] items that was um approved uh were the
[1:08:04] portable ballards that I spoke about
[1:08:06] some time ago. Um, so I want to thank
[1:08:08] staff for looking into that and for my
[1:08:10] colleagues for supporting that. I think
[1:08:11] that's going to be a great uh value ad
[1:08:13] for public safety for pedestrians and I
[1:08:16] look forward to seeing them out and
[1:08:17] about. Um and then finally, we've had um
[1:08:20] several uh members of our fire
[1:08:21] department who have been deployed to the
[1:08:23] fires in Oregon and the nearby ones in
[1:08:25] Calvary County. So, you know, they're
[1:08:27] not if they're busy, they're not
[1:08:29] watching this, but to everybody else who
[1:08:31] um's coming back from that, you know,
[1:08:32] Turlock, thanks you for your service
[1:08:34] here and being away from your family for
[1:08:37] days and days and days to take care of
[1:08:38] our region.
[1:08:41] I too would like to um shout out to the fire folks that have been deployed.
[1:08:46] Um I have some relatives that have been
[1:08:49] involved with fires various states. Um
[1:08:52] I've heard some citizens be concerned
[1:08:55] that we're sending our people away and
[1:08:56] leaving our stations uncovered and I can
[1:08:58] assure you as I know the chief has has
[1:09:01] sent out that that is not the case. It
[1:09:03] is um we are still well protected here
[1:09:06] in town. So thank you.
[1:09:09] Yeah, I'm going to start with data
[1:09:10] centers.
[1:09:12] So folks, normally we don't comment on
[1:09:14] what gets posted on social media, but in
[1:09:17] this case, an elected official put a
[1:09:19] post out about a week ago and concerning
[1:09:22] datas. That elected official was
[1:09:23] schoolboard trustee Mary Jackson. She
[1:09:26] posted up online that Turlock had a data
[1:09:28] center and that Turlock had two
[1:09:30] additional pending permits within city
[1:09:32] hall for two more data centers. Um,
[1:09:35] hence I think Leslie that's your comment
[1:09:37] that Turlock's slotted for three. I I
[1:09:41] want to the public to know that that is
[1:09:43] an absolute false post. Turlock does not
[1:09:46] have a data center. Turlock does not
[1:09:48] have any permits pending for data
[1:09:50] centers. And I and I and I point this
[1:09:52] out and I appreciate Dr. Murphy having
[1:09:54] the staff reply to the online post with
[1:09:58] the city logo because when elected
[1:10:00] officials post things, the public
[1:10:01] depends on that and relies on that and
[1:10:03] expects it to be true. Um, Milt
[1:10:06] Treeweiler, you and I agree on very
[1:10:10] little, sir, but I can tell you we both
[1:10:13] agree that Turlock is a very precious
[1:10:16] bread basket with the best farmland in
[1:10:19] the world, and I don't want data centers
[1:10:21] anywhere near it. Okay. So, if we could
[1:10:24] all work to get it out of the county,
[1:10:25] that would be great. But I need the
[1:10:27] record clear for what Turlock has and
[1:10:28] what Turlock doesn't have because
[1:10:30] Leslie, you're right. This is not a
[1:10:32] Republican or a Democrat issue. This is
[1:10:34] a humanity issue. Um, moving on. Fire
[1:10:37] department. Thank you for those
[1:10:39] comments. Um, I know Chief Serpa, you
[1:10:42] weren't with us on our side of things
[1:10:44] back when the Cowdor fires were going
[1:10:47] on. Um, now we have the Gan Fire going.
[1:10:50] There are fire departments statewide
[1:10:52] sending resources. I did check in with
[1:10:55] Chief Evans. I was informed that you are
[1:10:58] being very strategic not only about
[1:11:01] making sure Turlock has plenty of
[1:11:03] coverage, but also monitoring the
[1:11:05] firefighter fatigue issue so that when
[1:11:08] resources are being sent out and we have
[1:11:10] additional firefighters here at home
[1:11:11] that are working overtime to cover those
[1:11:13] positions that we don't run into
[1:11:15] firefighter fatigue uh like we did with
[1:11:17] the Caldor fire a few years back. So, I
[1:11:19] was told that you were making very
[1:11:20] strategic moves and very much on top of
[1:11:22] that and I just wanted to say thank you.
[1:11:24] Um, great job. Keep it going. Um, the
[1:11:27] last comment I have is about the gear
[1:11:29] road corridor that's coming. Um, you
[1:11:31] guys, Dr. Pesh, the road doctor, we call
[1:11:33] him, he's also like our city treasure, a
[1:11:36] very humble guy. Um the five of us all
[1:11:39] know that two years ago we were told
[1:11:41] that project was going to cost 25
[1:11:43] million at at the base level and he
[1:11:45] reworked that project and got it down to
[1:11:47] 20,280,000.
[1:11:49] He didn't give himself credit for that
[1:11:51] but you all know I'm one to give credit
[1:11:52] where it goes regardless of what side
[1:11:54] it's on. So thank you.
[1:11:57] >> Well you guys pretty much covered most
[1:11:59] of the stuff but um national night out I
[1:12:02] was able to go to Columbia Park and
[1:12:04] there was a lot of people there so great
[1:12:06] turnout. Um Chick-fil-A grand opening um
[1:12:09] happened. Um great turn uh turnout there
[1:12:11] as well. If you guys haven't went by
[1:12:13] there, um it's it's actually going
[1:12:16] pretty quickly. I had some some
[1:12:17] employees go there and they're like,
[1:12:18] "Oh, it's going the first day. I think
[1:12:20] it was like an hour wait or something,
[1:12:21] but now I think um it's it's less than
[1:12:24] that." So, um I just love to see Turlock
[1:12:26] uh expand and grow um economically. So,
[1:12:31] >> thank you. So, the greatest news about
[1:12:33] Chick-fil-A is that it is an anchor. And
[1:12:36] what that means is that people come here
[1:12:38] from other cities. We many of of the
[1:12:41] citizens in this town have gone to
[1:12:43] Mantika to get their Chick-fil-A on. So,
[1:12:47] here comes the best part. This is the
[1:12:50] largest ever in the history of
[1:12:53] Chick-fil-A. The showing on the first
[1:12:55] day, we handled it. Turlock, California
[1:12:57] handled it. And I and kudos to all of
[1:12:59] our staff who were out there making sure
[1:13:01] everything was working. Even uh the
[1:13:03] captain on a day off was sitting there
[1:13:05] kept moving the pylons to make sure that
[1:13:07] there weren't any issues. It it turned
[1:13:09] out really well. And people can say,
[1:13:12] well, it's just a fast food. Okay. But
[1:13:14] it starts the the whole thing for
[1:13:16] economic development. We create money
[1:13:19] and revenue so that we can provide our
[1:13:23] employees and they provide a better
[1:13:26] service. There's a whole structure to
[1:13:27] how this works. It's not just a
[1:13:29] sandwich. So, I am super proud that
[1:13:31] Chick-fil-A is here and what our our
[1:13:33] group did was phenomenal. And that's how
[1:13:36] you do economic development. It's not
[1:13:38] just one thing and we call it a day and
[1:13:40] the ribbon cutting and move on. The this
[1:13:41] is how you bring large things here that
[1:13:44] are going to build our economy for us
[1:13:47] and not come into the streets down where
[1:13:50] we're living in our residential. Um, I
[1:13:52] also want to just say that the advisory
[1:13:54] board for uh the fire department is not
[1:13:57] to decide if we're coming back per se.
[1:14:00] It is an advisory board to the chief. So
[1:14:03] now that he's in a position, he will do
[1:14:05] like our police chief and have a group
[1:14:08] of people who will sit on that and as we
[1:14:09] progress through the issues of getting
[1:14:12] what 48 months till we get our our
[1:14:14] ladder truck, all these things. How do
[1:14:16] we get there so that we get to the fact
[1:14:19] that we're back to Turlock Fire
[1:14:20] Department? So, it's not one equals the
[1:14:24] other and we needed Chief Serpa to start
[1:14:26] this for us. So, he'll be working on
[1:14:28] that shortly. And other than that, I
[1:14:30] think we have close session.
[1:14:32] >> Yes, I will begin by reading the items
[1:14:34] for close session and then you'll see me
[1:14:35] open up public comment for close
[1:14:37] session. So, if you want to speak to
[1:14:38] that is your time regarding those close
[1:14:40] session items. So 13A is threat with
[1:14:43] public services, public facilities,
[1:14:44] critical infrastructure controls,
[1:14:46] critical infrastructure, information
[1:14:47] relating to cyber security, California
[1:14:50] government code 54957A1.
[1:14:54] And item B is conference with legal
[1:14:56] council existing litigation uh pursuant
[1:14:58] to government code California 59
[1:15:01] 549569D1.
[1:15:03] Uh two cases Turlock Gospel Mission
[1:15:05] versus the city of Turlock and people of
[1:15:07] the state of California versus the city
[1:15:09] of Turlock. At this time, if you would
[1:15:11] like to make any comments, we'll start
[1:15:13] with members of the public sitting live.
[1:15:18] Seeing none, we'll move to our virtual.
[1:15:20] If anyone on the virtual would like to
[1:15:21] speak regarding those two close session
[1:15:23] items, please unmute yourself or press
[1:15:25] star six.
[1:15:28] Seeing none, mayor.
[1:15:30] >> All right, then we will uh adjourn to
[1:15:32] our close session and come out and
[1:15:34] report should there be anything. Thank
[1:15:36] you.
[1:27:14] Nothing to see.
[1:27:19] » We're live. All right. There's nothing
[1:27:21] to report out and we are adjourned.