[0:10] Okay, I'll need to order it.

[0:15] Are we good?

[0:18] Item one, citizen's time. Anybody? Hearing it, seeing none?

[0:24] These two short projects.

[0:31] I have an update for us before we get to A, if that's okay. Okay, so

[0:36] epigram, we had met with them last spring, if you remember, because they were exceeding their flow.

[0:43] And so they had a bunch of initiatives in the works that they were working on.

[0:48] As far as they were going to, they had plans to outsource some of their beer

[0:51] as well as some conservation efforts for their water use

[0:55] because it was going to help save them some money as well.

[0:59] So they started doing that.

[1:01] You had said, let's hold off until we see the September readings

[1:03] to look at if it's made a difference.

[1:06] And it did make a good difference.

[1:07] So, their numbers in the last quarter was 1,478 gallons a day.

[1:14] They're slightly still exceeding their allotment,

[1:17] but if you remember at that last meeting,

[1:19] they had felt that 11% of their flow was,

[1:23] what use was not going into the system?

[1:26] If that number is correct, they will fall below their allotment

[1:29] and they'll be good.

[1:30] So their head ruler right now is putting together a detailed explanation

[1:34] of why they think that percentage doesn't go in so that we can give it to

[1:39] de-entry view. They should have it in a couple of weeks and then they'll come

[1:43] to a meeting.

[1:47] That's it.

[1:50] You sure can?

[1:53] Sure. All right.

[2:01] Okay.

[2:02] Jim, did you want to come sit here so they can hear you on the microphone?

[2:06] Thank you.

[2:16] Did you need a copy of what you guys sent?

[2:18] You got it.

[2:18] Okay.

[2:19] So I handed you guys all a copy of this.

[2:21] I had emailed it to the other day as well.

[2:24] At the last meeting, you were just asked that any of the dates that sewer was higher than water.

[2:29] You just wanted to see what those numbers were.

[2:32] So we plugged those in. It didn't make much of a difference with your average sewer flow at the bottom.

[2:38] They had it at 87%. And I think if you do add in those numbers that the sewer was higher, you're at like 89%. So it wasn't a huge difference.

[2:51] But we have the attach just excuse me the backup for the water district readings it shows a graph day by day and I did check those with the numbers on the front and they they're in that range.

[3:07] So the only other outstanding issue you were asking about was you wanted backup for low assessment so I don't know if you can talk about that because we didn't we didn't get that we can send it to you.

[3:18] Okay, you're you're asking for the report that generated our exhibit be exhibit two numbers.

[3:25] Yes, we can get we can provide that if you want.

[3:28] Okay, yeah, so

[3:35] I mean I mean I asked my question is even if I provide those and that data is

[3:39] accurate to what I report it's showing about a 13% delta difference in discharge versus usage.

[3:48] usage. So I'm using 87% of that of 100% of usage. So it's a 13% difference. Which would

[3:58] my drive off and evaporation is what? We had talked about in the last time I had met

[4:04] with him.

[4:05] Didn't we do some calculating and saying that even with his numbers the last meeting he was

[4:11] still going to be?

[4:12] We know we're going to be high. We just wanted to get it more in a range that we thought would

[4:19] to be accurate, so that's why we did this study.

[4:25] Yep, so if you agree with this 87% number,

[4:31] if we looked at the last full year of billing

[4:34] from last September to now, they were averaging 17,130

[4:39] to gallons a day.

[4:41] If you subtract 13% off of that, it brings them down

[4:45] to 14,905 gallons a day.

[4:50] So, with that, above, so, and there are a lot of minus 4,950, so if you bring it down and you agree with the 87% number, it would mean they would need to purchase an additional 31 ERUs between the 4950 they're allowed and the 14,905 they're using.

[5:13] Anybody, that's all based on water.

[5:18] So it's with their 13% delta that's looking at what water is a golden system correct yeah

[5:27] So it was 17 and some change 14905 is after the after you subtract this number yeah and

[5:37] then my

[5:37] question to you would be does that also mean that I should subtract 13% off of the usage charge as

[5:44] well not just for purchasing capacity but every quarterly use you quarterly usage when I get the

[5:48] numbers in from the water district automatically subtract 13% off of that before we bill him

[5:53] Because I know you mentioned that in the past as well that you wanted to see the actual flow go and in through the outflow meter to get billing proper

[6:03] Who's that what?

[6:05] Flow assessment basically shows that their flow assessment according to the numbers is the 87% if you

[6:12] counting the numbers of those

[6:14] six dates that have NA next to it. If you added those in, it brings it to like 89%

[6:23] but rounding wise, it's not a huge difference. I mean, if you decided to go in the

[6:29] middle, if they have 87 and you have 89 and you go in the middle and it's 88, it's

[6:34] still 31 ERUs because, you know, there's always that rounding factor of the

[6:38] gallons, does that range? So it really doesn't, it doesn't really change it a lot between

[6:43] that and that.

[6:48] Do you agree with all the numbers that was just said?

[6:51] I do.

[6:54] I have a couple of questions. What did low assessments say about those days when there was a more sewer

[7:01] than water?

[7:03] So what they found is on two of the days that were back-to-back, we found debris in the

[7:10] unit that was a bad measure, and then they think that there's a possibility that that had happened a

[7:16] few times. The second question is when we talked on the phone a while ago, you were talking about

[7:21] the reclaimed water getting pumped out periodically. When were the pump dates in this? We didn't do any

[7:29] pump dates in this study. Like when was the one before and after? Well, we do them quarterly, so

[7:35] So it wasn't done during this quarter.

[7:38] I can get you the date if that's helpful.

[7:41] We extract, and each pump out about 6,000 gallons

[7:44] from banks.

[7:46] OK.

[7:47] Yeah, that's all my questions.

[7:53] Anybody else?

[8:00] Dan, and that would matter why?

[8:02] I was just curious if they did any pumping during this time

[8:05] because then he would be taking water out.

[8:08] OK.

[8:09] Excuse the numbers.

[8:10] So

[8:17] taking the water out, right, if he's taking it out, it's not going in the

[8:22] stool. Do we have a different way to know how much is going in the bank that's

[8:25] getting bumped out? That would be your flow assessment numbers. So whether or not

[8:30] they pump, right? Your flow assessment numbers are actuals. That's actually going on.

[8:36] Oh, okay. Let's stay on site.

[8:41] I think you said it was 6,000 gallons. Yeah, it's not

[8:44] When you look at the numbers, it's pretty insignificant correct. Yeah, so you know, like I said, we do it quarterly. So

[8:51] That would be 24,000 gallons for the year. It's very insignificant until usage. Yeah, um, you know, I could get those reports

[9:00] But I don't think it changes our really our ERU number at the end. It wouldn't matter to us because it's not going in our system

[9:06] Correct, and also when you look at the amount of water use per year, it's extremely insignificant

[9:12] I mean, the one is almost a day and it's 1.2 million years, yeah, yeah, it's very, I forget.

[9:21] So we need to, what's that?

[9:23] What do we need to do?

[9:24] So I think it's just a matter of we're in agreement that it will be 31 ARUs.

[9:29] I don't know if you want to ask to do a covenant for that, or pay for that, or how you want to do that.

[9:34] Well, I think we're on a covenant for the old setup, right?

[9:39] Correct.

[9:39] Do we tack that on?

[9:40] We could, I would probably, I'd probably recommend that you do a separate billing and you get two.

[9:49] Well, I mean, we could do it, but you've already paid into that, we'd have to look at it.

[9:53] I mean, I guess that's how, what you want to do.

[9:56] So he's already paid probably two years into the other covenant.

[10:00] Yeah, to be clean with the tax office because I know I've had priorities good down there.

[10:06] Yeah, so I think just to keep it clean, you might just want to have two separate accounts,

[10:09] and we can have all the paperwork to back that up and how many years do you want to do that out?

[10:16] I think the first one said, if it's 10 years or 20 years.

[10:21] 10 years, okay. So 10 years, you could give them 10 years.

[10:25] Yeah, that's fine.

[10:26] Alright, so what I'll do is I'll just have to customize that covenant to get the right amount in

[10:32] and then I'll email that to you if you want to sign it and get it notarized and get it back to me.

[10:36] Okay, if you can do that before two weeks from now, I can bring it to them for signatures

[10:41] at the next meeting, and in the meantime, if you're okay with it, when we bill in October

[10:46] for usage for the last quarter, I'll subtract 13% off of that bill.

[10:50] What do you do for the cabinet?

[10:54] You do.

[10:54] We don't know the dollar amount.

[10:56] You don't know the dollar amount yet.

[10:58] So we can do it at the next meeting.

[10:59] We can do it at the next meeting.

[11:00] Yeah.

[11:01] And we can vote to 13% so that that's on the right.

[11:03] Yeah, just because I'll I'll be doing billing before the next time I see you guys. I'm not sure so if you want to take a vote on that I

[11:11] Would if that's okay?

[11:19] Any further discussion here and see none all favor

[11:23] And then can you just take a vote that you're gonna

[11:26] Allow 13% to be used for the calculation of the ERUs because that's what it's all based on

[11:37] And what do you use this and calculate that on the next meeting with the, um,

[11:44] governor.

[11:46] Dad, do that work?

[11:50] We'll do it.

[11:50] We'll do it with the cabinet.

[11:52] That way, you know, they go to look to different meetings.

[11:55] If anybody's looking.

[11:56] Okay.

[11:58] Anything else?

[11:59] All right.

[12:00] Thank you.

[12:01] All

[12:04] right.

[12:06] We're not old business phase one west.

[12:08] Anything?

[12:09] Let's see,

[12:12] if you want to jump down to one 30-middle sex, I don't have anything prior

[12:17] to that.

[12:21] Okay.

[12:22] Okay.

[12:23] So, I emailed.

[12:24] Oh, sorry.

[12:24] Nothing of phase one.

[12:25] Nothing of the 50-west wave.

[12:26] Correct.

[12:27] In the 30-middle.

[12:28] Yep.

[12:29] So, I had emailed the plaza owner and let him know that his readings had dropped substantially.

[12:34] He's now under the allotted amount.

[12:36] So, I know he had told us he had some investigations with the plumbing coming up.

[12:41] So I just wanted to see, I invited him to tonight's meeting to let you all know what they

[12:46] ended up finding to get his flow of seedings corrected, and also I let him know that

[12:53] there was a discussion that still needed to be had before he purchased any ERUs for the

[12:57] upstairs residential.

[12:58] We did get an email in today from ZBA that he's going in front of them to bring up that case

[13:07] again for the residential.

[13:08] So, I just commented on that that he just needs to come see you all to have a discussion

[13:14] about potentially purchasing capacity from there because as of right now, I think as

[13:18] of right now with him under the allotment, he still has two ERUs you had told him he

[13:23] could purchase, but the other two you had removed so you would just need to have that because

[13:28] he needed four in total.

[13:30] You'll just need to have that discussion.

[13:33] Yeah.

[13:34] Well, Martin, the usage, it did drop drastically in the last quarter.

[13:37] it was at 309,000 in the quarter before and now it's down to like 180 something.

[13:46] What's that?

[13:48] The next quarter will be September 1st through December 31st.

[13:51] I mean December 1st.

[13:59] Well, it's going to have to come in on the discussion.

[14:02] It's going to be consistent.

[14:05] It can just get the water off of it.

[14:06] Yeah.

[14:07] So I forget last meeting, do we find out why across?

[14:14] No.

[14:15] I sent him an email inviting him tonight to ask that question.

[14:18] So for him to just fill us in but I haven't heard back from him.

[14:22] That was my question.

[14:25] I vaguely remember talking about it, but I don't know what they did exactly.

[14:29] I mean, that's significant.

[14:31] It is significant.

[14:33] Right.

[14:34] They must have come across something with one of those restaurants. I'm thinking

[14:40] But when the restaurant went in so we all know that's it. That is it for 130. Yes

[14:48] Okay, so actually I do have some views. I'm Brian. We have a

[14:53] A request for the capacity project as you know, we did the first phase of it and we need

[15:00] I need you to sign a request to extend the date, the end date for that first phase because we're still in discussions about what to do for the second phase. And there's a deadline coming up to close out the first phase. And so EPA suggested the cleanest way to do it is just ask for an extension, move our first phase end date out to, we talked with the end till like the end of February. That gives you guys time for them to look into what's going to be used for phase two. Gather all that information.

[15:29] because once this one ends, I need to immediately apply the next round.

[15:32] So we need to have all the ducks in a row and decisions made by you guys on what you want to use

[15:37] for rehab money and all of that.

[15:40] But we can submit like next month if we wanted to.

[15:42] Right, we don't have to do that.

[15:43] It just gives us our own way of time to make a decision.

[15:47] Yeah.

[15:49] Is that it?

[15:50] That's it.

[15:52] Unless you have anything else on I.

[15:54] I don't see if you just saw a phases.

[15:59] Nothing new?

[16:01] So, it's going to development?

[16:02] Okay, so since the last meeting, I reached out to the owners of the plaza about the mass

[16:06] work, applying for the mass work, and they were very interested, they were, so we'll do

[16:11] whatever we can to help out with this, yep, we want to move forward.

[16:14] But then in the meantime, we found out that the town already had a plan to apply for mass

[16:19] work, so something different.

[16:20] So, we're not able to apply in 27, because you can't have two town projects going against

[16:25] each other.

[16:26] So I let them know that and they said please keep us in mind if you have any other grants

[16:31] we're happy to like help out in any way to pursue that avenue.

[16:35] The developer called me today.

[16:38] I hadn't heard from him in several months.

[16:40] I think he had an injury that he's still dealing with and that's kind of why things had slowed

[16:44] down.

[16:45] I did explain to him that the math works is no longer an option in 27.

[16:50] He said it's hard as the developer.

[16:52] He can't see the project moving forward if the developer is having to do the upgrades,

[16:58] but he's more than happy to talk with you guys about trying to find a different avenue

[17:02] that would work that he could be a part of, whether that's a grant opportunity or if you

[17:08] can think of something else.

[17:09] So I told my bring it up to you tonight to see if you had any other ideas and he's going

[17:14] to call on Monday just to check in on that and the plaza owners as well.

[17:18] We'll update them too.

[17:19] So I know usually in the spring, your CDS grants come out.

[17:25] We could always apply through there.

[17:27] That would be more of us applying versus them applying.

[17:32] The only thing that's kind of a longer process with that,

[17:35] we wouldn't find out for a year after that.

[17:37] And then sometimes you'd actually get the money to move ahead.

[17:40] So could, if we applied in the spring,

[17:43] it could be two years before you could start work.

[17:45] So just keep that in mind that that line from what we're being told right now is pretty much

[17:51] At capacity size wise

[17:52] Well, I was I was just going to ask them so we can't do anything

[17:57] Can't get any more sugar over there. So we get that

[18:00] Yeah

[18:00] Yeah, well, I was an author of a based on what Paul and Jake said. Yeah, a line's full

[18:13] All right, anything else on that?

[18:20] They came in today and paid the application fees that the developer did, and the installer,

[18:25] sorry.

[18:25] It's already emailed today.

[18:26] It was kind of funny.

[18:28] So they came and paid that, and then the only thing else standing is the plumbing safety

[18:32] inspections that are typical that you do prior to connecting because there's 56 units.

[18:38] I was told today that they just need to get a second inspector to go out and help with

[18:42] that.

[18:43] It's just a lot to get done.

[18:44] So the gentleman was asking today if you could get started on the work I talked to Paul and Paul said as long as it's not doing any connections to the units but the main line yes absolutely start that and then once the inspection start getting done then they're allowed to connect to each individual unit so it's I believe the going to try to start next week either Monday or Wednesday.

[19:08] Okay, so at the last meeting they were present and we talked about a 53G account that Wooden

[19:14] Kern was going to set up, they didn't, they put together an agreement, I sent it off

[19:18] to the developer and we requested the 15,000 to start, they got back and asked if we could

[19:24] slow it down a little bit and they count off at 2500 to start, I think they were hoping

[19:29] to just make it more of a high level review, I checked with Dan and Wooden Kern really

[19:34] needs to have at least a minimum of 5,000 to begin that review. So I did let them develop

[19:40] and know that I haven't heard back yet. So don't sign anything yet because I haven't

[19:44] gotten a check from them, but I'll keep it on for next meeting.

[19:48] All right. That's an management plan? Yeah. I was still going through the report review process

[19:56] close to wrapping up. We should have that project closed out next month.

[19:59] All right.

[20:00] Good.

[20:02] Vespa said it will work.

[20:04] Okay.

[20:04] So I had emailed you guys two of the three conveyance documents.

[20:09] The one from the end has a signature but not both signatures.

[20:12] So we can't take that vote tonight because we don't have everything in yet.

[20:15] We'll definitely have it before the next meeting.

[20:17] I'll send a two-for-review and then we could take the vote that night.

[20:20] I did get language on the vote from our attorneys.

[20:24] All of the money is squared away.

[20:26] Everybody is paid their fair share.

[20:27] And we ended up getting reimbursed a little of a $6,000 and didn't spend anything in physical 27.

[20:34] So everybody has pretty much reached what they need to do.

[20:38] That's all set.

[20:39] We're just waiting on that last document.

[20:41] And then you guys can take that vote.

[20:45] Right, new business.

[20:47] Topic, the chair that did not reasonably anticipate would be discussed.

[20:52] Okay, so I had a phone call today with a resident on Spring Street.

[20:59] And it was just a general conversation about when the bills were coming out.

[21:02] We just processed them, by the way, earlier this week.

[21:04] So they're at the third party printed right now.

[21:07] So in the conversation, we're talking about the price because the person just wanted to make sure

[21:11] that they do automated bill pay and wanted to make sure they had enough in there.

[21:15] So through the conversation, it came out that they have a single family home with an inlaw.

[21:22] But when I looked at the coding, they've encoded for two family.

[21:26] And the person explained to me that she bought the house back in 2013 and had let I think

[21:32] for tax purposes let them know it was only an in-law, but didn't know she had to also

[21:37] contact us because it's too completely different billing systems.

[21:41] And so the number one thing is I'm looking to get an abatement on the bill that we're sending

[21:46] out right now so she can pay the correct price.

[21:47] it's $167 abatement, $165.07. And then the second question is, would you be willing to

[22:00] abate anything prior to this bill and if so, how far back would you go?

[22:07] How long has she been there?

[22:08] She moved in in 2013 and she fully realized that she's like I didn't realize I was supposed

[22:14] to contact you guys.

[22:16] So when did she go back to back so when she moved in in 2013?

[22:23] Yeah.

[22:25] And she didn't know by the price.

[22:27] She didn't know like that it was two versus one and a half.

[22:30] So can't we only go back seven?

[22:33] I believe that's what happened in the past.

[22:35] We could only go back seven.

[22:37] Yeah, that's all we can.

[22:39] It was the price difference.

[22:43] So 165 for this.

[22:44] So, you figure each year probably, I mean, we hadn't raised the rates for a while, so probably

[22:53] 300 a year tops for the past seven years, probably about 2100.

[23:04] Well, we can't, we should put it off and take a vote at the next meeting.

[23:08] Is it going to matter right now?

[23:10] No, if you can approve the 165, that would be good only because that bill, she needs to pay that bill.

[23:17] and she won't, she needs to know the correct amount.

[23:21] And it will hang out, I mean, if I gave her the correct amount as an in-law,

[23:25] but the rest of this is already been committed, it's going to be hanging out on the account.

[23:29] It's going to look like she didn't pay her all of her bill.

[23:32] So, but is there a reason did you want to hold off on that one?

[23:40] Yeah, because I want to check, make sure that we can do that.

[23:44] Okay, too.

[23:44] And okay, I'll look into that because I'll pull up one of those old ones that we have to go back several years

[23:52] I don't think I want you to call the attorneys. I think I think we have that information

[23:58] We had already looked into that in the past and had a ruling on that so I'll look into that all right

[24:03] So you just want to hold off on yes on the if that's okay

[24:10] Okay.

[24:11] So we're going to attend a motion for the abatement for 167 or 5?

[24:17] Um, 165 or 7.

[24:20] And that's for 10th ring street?

[24:23] The motion by Fred.

[24:24] Second.

[24:25] Second.

[24:25] I'll hold favor.

[24:28] Those unanimous.

[24:29] And then I'll bring to the next video.

[24:31] I'll go back to each one of those years and look at what the rates actually were because you

[24:34] know, we've had rate changes the idea and figure out how the exact amount for you guys.

[24:39] And I'll let you know.

[24:43] Is that it?

[24:45] Yeah.

[24:46] For new topics.

[24:48] All right.

[24:49] New business request to connect the sewer 36.

[24:52] Okay.

[24:53] So there's a parcel that's for sale right now.

[24:55] And I've had two people contact me that were both interested buyers in both of them.

[25:00] I'm looking to get an answer before they put an offer down.

[25:05] of if they be allowed to connect a sewer, it did not pass Title V, it failed Title V.

[25:11] So, I'm assuming this is the all-line?

[25:15] What's that?

[25:16] The all-line, not the phase one.

[25:18] Correct.

[25:20] Correct.

[25:25] Is it a single family home?

[25:26] It's a single family home, and it failed,

[25:31] the septic inspection.

[25:34] I don't have an issue with it, I don't know about you guys.

[25:41] No, it's on the other side of the street.

[25:44] It's heading almost near Champsford on the right.

[25:51] No pipe issues there, right?

[25:53] That's past the fold.

[25:56] That wouldn't affect the word in a meter at all.

[26:00] I think it's only the stuff coming from Dunstable going down.

[26:04] We would just need to know where you want to take that from for tracking.

[26:15] The only two that are out there right now would be LIMPS that hasn't been paid for as well as that's really the only one that has been paid for.

[26:24] I know you will look at there is a buffer from the child's George flow, but they're entitled to that they're not using it.

[26:31] They're entitled to it through that agreement from 30 years ago, so that's up to you guys, I don't know.

[26:36] Well, it's just an allotment issue, flimsy is probably the easiest one to take it from.

[26:46] If that project ever does happen.

[26:50] And that's what 150-something gallon today?

[26:53] Is that what you would talk about us?

[26:59] Anybody want to?

[27:00] It's great.

[27:00] Yeah.

[27:01] It's fine.

[27:02] I mean, I don't know, after a week, what would you start tonight?

[27:12] So as far as the physical connection for that?

[27:15] that. Paul looked into that.

[27:19] It wasn't a better man. It was in a better man. It was

[27:24] in a better man. It was part of the old line. It must have been, was that around Erickson's?

[27:28] Well, whatever he did made the bridge. He must have to go help him. Yeah, I know Paul looked

[27:34] into the connection and the house sits up on a hill and has a really steep slope. So he

[27:39] was just saying that we need to, they'd have to probably put in a sewer manhole on their

[27:43] property and do an inside drop during the connection. I did let both of those potential buyers know that that that was because they were asking for different expenses, but no, there is not currently any capacity reserved for them.

[27:57] So anyone on that line is basically, yeah, it was first come first serve at the time.

[28:04] Right.

[28:05] What there's a stop for everybody.

[28:07] I guess.

[28:10] We must have left so many or something when he was doing the project, maybe.

[28:15] We've had a number of them come in there.

[28:19] Yeah.

[28:41] You made the motion to second it.

[28:47] Make a motion to allow 36 middle six row to tie in with the capacity coming from the

[28:53] Flint project.

[28:55] Second.

[28:56] The motion and a second.

[28:57] Any further discussion?

[28:59] We're going to see Nana on favour.

[29:01] Opposed?

[29:02] An animus.

[29:03] All right.

[29:04] Two administrators before.

[29:05] Okay, so we have on meeting minutes to approve from September 10th.

[29:18] It's motion in a second. Any further discussion?

[29:22] Anyone seen on our own favor? I close and the enemies.

[29:26] Okay, Bill's Warren's to review, which we have right here, just two weeks worth.

[29:32] Let me know if you have any questions on those.

[29:43] Yeah, good question. What is Western in Samson?

[29:47] Okay, so Weston, Samson, that was all August work, they wrote two different times.

[29:53] They went to the five-over room, pump station, they needed to replace the mission dialer,

[29:57] mother board.

[29:58] So he had to change some of the...

[30:00] The board's hardware chips, they ran wires for the signal from the controller to the mission. They troubleshooter with the analog, had to replace the cable. That was off of that job. And then they also had work at Elm Street. They pulled the pump through, there was a little plastic bottle that got caught in the pump. And so they had to pull the pump and remove that.

[30:19] What kind of ball like a alcohol little nip?

[30:23] I don't wonder where that came from.

[30:27] Yeah,

[30:30] so those were the two Weston and Samson.

[30:33] And was just

[30:34] Scheduled though is it over time?

[30:37] It wasn't over time because it was during the day. So all of their rates, whether it's emergency callout or it's a

[30:44] Scheduled is the same if it's a dairy if it's after hours or weekends is when it increases. These were all during the week

[30:50] So it was there at the aloha rate.

[30:59] Any questions on the mark? Any other questions on the line?

[31:05] Do we have a sewer field report today?

[31:08] Yes, so

[31:10] Duncan Donets at 440 Plaza, if you remember the story about the grease trap was taken out when it got to check and went in

[31:17] somehow they had two grease traps originally and

[31:20] The one for Duncan somehow got disconnected and taken out

[31:24] This was like last winter that that this was found out so

[31:28] Paul and I have been in contact with the gentleman who owns it since basically since February,

[31:34] asking him to replace this grease strap in there. So the reason it took so long is, at one point in

[31:41] time the plaza talked about rerouting some of the sewer lines and so he wanted to get it designed so

[31:48] that it could, first of all he wanted to see it was that coming up quickly when she found out was not.

[31:53] And so now it's been in the design process for a long time because he wants to get a design where it's

[31:57] going to be work with the system we currently have as well as whatever the future realignment

[32:02] is. So he's at the point now where they're just ready to choose a design and he's supposed

[32:10] to send us a rough schedule but Paul has really pushed him where it's been out for so long

[32:15] to try to get this done before winter because it's been a while that they haven't had grease

[32:20] strap over there. What's that?

[32:26] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[32:31] I know they do. Don't they do breakfast sandwiches and stuff? I don't know how much is used

[32:35] for that. So I know in our rigs it talks about like if you set a deadline and this finds involved.

[32:43] So it was recommended we send a letter with a deadline. I guess if you guys want to give me a deadline

[32:48] to give to him that if not, then we could invoke one of the fines in the regulations.

[32:53] Because it's just been going on for a long time.

[32:58] I guess I'm not sure what the design and those things are pretty straightforward.

[33:03] That's what the inside and outside and the outside connects to.

[33:06] Correct.

[33:07] That's what we've been told, I mean, as well.

[33:09] So I don't know.

[33:11] He wants me to design it, I probably can do it right here.

[33:13] Yeah.

[33:14] No, but it's.

[33:15] Yeah.

[33:15] Is he's talking about maybe having come out of different side with this I think so I think so because that was the point was

[33:22] If they were going to reroute it he wanted it to be installed somewhere that it works now, but if he didn't want to

[33:27] Reinvest in one I guess

[33:29] Why pay twice right right? It's just that this has been going on for a very long time

[33:34] You know first it was going to be put in in the spring and then you know it one of those

[33:52] So he doesn't have anything right now, inside.

[33:55] Correct.

[33:55] Well, inside he probably does.

[33:59] So what happened to the outside board?

[34:01] It got removed.

[34:03] They went to do like an inspection or something when I think the chicken place connected.

[34:07] And they were like, where's the grease trap for here?

[34:10] And somehow it got removed.

[34:12] I don't know how.

[34:13] It was.

[34:15] That owner hasn't owned it this whole time.

[34:17] you know there was some previous owners so I don't know what happened if it was

[34:21] taken out by mistake when they put the other one in thinking that it shouldn't

[34:24] be one for each restaurant but they showed it. I mean they had to put that pipe

[34:27] somewhere because yeah the saints are still usually yeah inside one goes

[34:32] somewhere if they took the outside trap out. Yeah I mean I think it's going into

[34:39] the sewer system somehow right. They connect it to the inside. No way.

[34:50] Is there like a moratorium when you get into winter where it's their own parking lot there

[34:55] wouldn't be, right?

[34:56] Just frost.

[34:57] Okay.

[34:57] It wouldn't be like that they can't get a permit to open it up or anything.

[35:01] What?

[35:01] On property stuff.

[35:03] No.

[35:03] Just straight.

[35:12] What's that?

[35:13] End of the year.

[35:14] End of the year.

[35:14] Okay.

[35:20] That is it on that report.

[35:22] Yes.

[35:25] Correspondence?

[35:25] No.

[35:26] Compliance.

[35:26] No, so we need executive session we do not

[35:32] Failure I opposed

[35:35] Thank you and good night

Tyngsborough Sewer Commission 09/24/2026

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