[0:00] Long nation under the invisible, the liberty and justice fall. Okay.

[0:08] And what do we got here from the meeting? That was the war.

[0:16] We have a motion to accept the minutes from the meeting, the July meeting without read.

[0:25] second. All of favor? Okay, give me one second here. Can you handle the money numbers?

[0:34] The money numbers? I like the submit for approval, upper Dublin, the internship,

[0:40] municipal authority, in voices for August 14th, 2026 in the amount of 176,627 dollars and 66 cents.

[0:53] second. Is there any questions about that? Any questions at all?

[1:01] Okay, we have an

[1:06] motion in a second to pay the bills. All in favor? Okay, we can track the

[1:15] way in here. I'm getting old too. Okay, there's no public here. So they

[1:21] they don't have any comments.

[1:24] OK, Jack.

[1:28] In regards to the invoices, the ZIP ramp invoices

[1:34] are the final invoices from the contractor,

[1:39] roadcon, the inspection team, TPD, who did a real nice job,

[1:46] and from our services as well.

[1:48] So the ZIP ramp invoices work with Jonathan to get the reimbursement requests going on grants because you probably sell the video I said you know, use my dash can is drove.

[2:06] Yeah, we had a round like a few times just to see you know, just get on at the slip ramp get off at the ZIP ramp.

[2:16] It doesn't cost you anything either.

[2:17] What's that?

[2:18] It doesn't cost you anything.

[2:18] Oh, it doesn't.

[2:20] Oh, that's good.

[2:22] There's no gift.

[2:23] You know, just to see.

[2:25] And there were cars getting off with me.

[2:28] You know, so it's.

[2:29] I want to see a video of Glenn doing that.

[2:31] This is bad.

[2:32] I want to see how fast you can take that corner.

[2:34] Oh, yeah.

[2:35] Great.

[2:37] It's a bigger words on there.

[2:39] Final.

[2:42] Final.

[2:42] Okay.

[2:43] So we had all the inspections have been completed through Penn dot for the traffic signal.

[2:52] We're finishing up on submitting some of the traffic signal things that Penn dot requires

[2:58] for as built type of situations.

[3:02] Closing the permits, most notably the NPDES permit,

[3:09] There was an instrument that needed to be recorded for your best management practice stormwater

[3:17] at the county and high schwarz has done that.

[3:22] So the permits are being closed.

[3:25] And as I mentioned, the ribbon cutting was held very well attended.

[3:30] the Turnpike Commission, the county was there, the township officials, obviously the elected

[3:39] officials were there, and DCED was there as well because they provided a major grant

[3:47] or the project.

[3:52] From that ribbon cutting, in talking to the DCED member, he did note

[3:58] to me that the multimodal grant was open.

[4:03] And so I had indicated that we already

[4:06] have a multimodal grant for our final project,

[4:09] Dr. Shertown Road, and I asked, can we submit another one?

[4:13] And he said, we'll review it.

[4:16] So last period we did submit the grant request to DCD

[4:23] for the multimodal grant in the amount of $350,000 requested

[4:28] towards Dreshertown. That's on the agenda. There's a resolution that the grants all require

[4:36] and we've indicated that would be forthcoming as a result of this meeting.

[4:43] So the ZIP ramp will be going away from the project status report by to that one. It's going

[4:50] be Dresher Town Road that we carry forward on the project status as it relates to Dresher Town Road.

[5:00] We've been working with Keystone and with Mark in regards to the final right of way claims.

[5:08] As we've been saying, this is a pen dot process, right of way acquisition system.

[5:17] So we have some final properties that require to be claimed or settled.

[5:24] One of them is a residential property that we've been dealing with for quite a bit, and there's been some final discussions on an agreement that they want they have legal counsel and mark is working with that legal counsel to get that completed so that we can get those documents executed and settle that claim.

[5:45] The other claim is the gas station on the corner at LINE Kiln and Dreshertown.

[5:53] That is a condemnation for a declaration of taking that has been filed.

[5:58] We are now in the waiting period that is required by the condemnation process.

[6:05] This is not a surprise to the owner of the property.

[6:08] they knew that it was coming, the reason for the condemnation is because of the

[6:14] indemnification that's required of the tenant, and that wasn't going to be

[6:19] something that the owner was able to do, therefore, they understood it would be

[6:24] a condemnation process. So from a right of way perspective, we're really

[6:29] coming down to the final pieces of the puzzle to get our right of way clearance

[6:35] from PennDOT. We do have another action item for a supplement that we've worked with keystone

[6:42] on to get down to a final level. The right-of-way process has had some extra work that has

[6:53] been associated with it. Most notably, some of these claims have agreements that the residents

[7:00] have been requesting that have really been challenging to get through, but we're getting through them.

[7:09] And to that end, they do need a supplement with that, though, we've worked it out such

[7:15] that Mark and his team are taking responsibilities for recordations and things of that

[7:24] nature to make sure that the supplement request is as tight as it can be.

[7:29] So that's on the agenda for today as well.

[7:34] As I say at each of the meetings, there are four clearances that you need to get to construction.

[7:41] Right of way being one of them, utility clearance is another.

[7:44] And we have been working with each of the utility companies to get what relocations do they need to be incorporated into the project.

[7:54] That's a very formal process with Penn.

[7:56] as well to get your utility clearance, but we're moving on that. Our design approvals number

[8:05] three. That's where we're going into the traffic unit at Penn Dot and various units for

[8:11] our traffic control, our traffic signals. One of the biggest ones is our ADA ramps. There are

[8:17] almost 40 ADA ramps as part of this project, whether it be at the signalized intersections,

[8:24] stop controlled intersections. Even the driveways, they look at all of them. We've had

[8:31] about four reviews on this with them. Last week we got a final review saying we're

[8:39] down to the very final comments and we're going to get our ADA approval in the next

[8:46] period. So that's a really big step. We have our other traffic unit submittals in, or the

[8:54] traffic signal review for pavement marking and signing. One of the last ones that we're

[8:59] addressing right now is traffic control. As we talked about, the majority of this project

[9:06] is maintaining traffic on Virginia and Dresher Town Road, keeping one lane in each direction,

[9:12] while work is happening to the side.

[9:16] The exception to that is at the end of the project,

[9:20] we do have a detour that we are implementing

[9:24] for the section of Dresher Town Road right by Kirk's Lane.

[9:29] That is a function of the culvert that needs to be replaced.

[9:33] As you know, that culvert is very skinny.

[9:36] So maintaining traffic on that while the culvert is being replaced

[9:40] is just too problematic, therefore what we set everything up to do is get all the other

[9:48] work done on either side of it and get the utilities relocated that are required to be

[9:54] relocated because of the culvert reconstruction if that done before the detour.

[10:00] So that when it is detour time, the unforeseen components are, I've gone away, and the contractor can get in and get out as quickly as possible.

[10:12] Is that going to be a, that culver? Is that going to be a drop in or build a place?

[10:17] A prefabricated drop in place. Yeah, it's piping. And it's a culvert that is sized such that it's not classified as a structure.

[10:27] If you get too wide with your culver, you get in no whole new category what pen dot of qualifying it as a structure.

[10:37] And this is narrowed such that it stays below that threshold, which is very helpful.

[10:45] So the point of all that is that we did the detour such that when they are done with that, construction is done.

[10:55] We didn't want to have the detour in the middle of construction and then all of a sudden the detours done and you're still battling with contractors out there.

[11:07] So that's how it's all set up.

[11:09] Just real quick.

[11:11] So we'll be having an aggressive outreach campaign to notify people we'll be coordinating.

[11:16] We've already discussed this briefly with Chief Wheatley regarding the officers being aware of

[11:22] the start and stops of this, the detour routes just to have everyone.

[11:27] I assume the fire company will be...

[11:30] Same way, yeah, ambulance as well.

[11:32] Yes, absolutely.

[11:36] So, permitting is the fourth step.

[11:39] We'll be submitting our NPDES permit over the course of the next two weeks.

[11:44] Everything is now online with Montgomery County Conservation District.

[11:48] We have the NPDES permit and we do have a general permit as well, so there are two permits on this project and that really is where we're focusing a lot of our efforts now as we get through the final design process.

[12:04] So, with that we have the other component of the project, which is the relocation of the

[12:12] dresser cemetery, right now, the archaeologists have been in the existing cemetery.

[12:22] They are nearly complete their work in there.

[12:25] They've been working with public works and every time I talk to them, they just really want

[12:32] make sure that they express appreciation towards the public works department because they have

[12:38] been very helpful. With all the rain events, you got to pump the water out of their pits

[12:44] and Ernie and public works have been out there quite a bit to help them. They've also been

[12:51] helping to strip off overburden that otherwise would have had to have been hand dug.

[13:01] So they

[13:02] They should be done by the end of August with their work inside the cemetery itself.

[13:10] We did advertise and it's on the agenda for today.

[13:15] We did advertise the clearing of the relocated sites along with the construction of the relocated cemetery wall.

[13:26] which includes stone facing and capping, capstone, we have the bids here and when we get to

[13:37] that we can discuss that as well. So in regards to Dresher Town, the other big component

[13:45] of this is funding, obviously we've been beating down every door in order to try and get

[13:52] I mentioned in the grant application, we also had a meeting with DVRPC who are really integral to what's called the CMAC program.

[14:07] We have a grant from CMAC, which is why we're actually going through the PEN. Process.

[14:16] We asked if there is additional funding that may be available from that program to go towards

[14:24] this project and requested $1.088 million additional dollars.

[14:33] Not everything in the project qualifies for this program.

[14:37] You really have to show them that what it's being applied towards and break down your cost estimate accordingly.

[14:48] That conversation went very well, and DVRPC is talking with their counterpart over at PennDOT in a programming office to see if...

[15:00] That can be put into the project. I have a meeting on Monday morning with both the DVRPC and the Penn dot representative to follow up on that funding request.

[15:14] So we may know more next week about that.

[15:17] That was a very favorable meeting. Much, I didn't, I felt like I did not want to feel as optimistic as I did.

[15:25] Um, they certainly had awareness through their time with Jack and awareness of the project

[15:31] of a justification for the room for additional funding, and while I left their, that's

[15:38] the most confident I've ever left feeling like they were, um, looking to formalize

[15:46] that request and not just acknowledge it and give you sort of false praise and false hope.

[15:52] So, you know, we've talked all along, and I think, you know, Jonathan will probably talk

[15:57] here in a little bit about next month, talking about what that bond issue is going to

[16:02] be.

[16:03] The bond issue may actually end up being a little higher than where we think we are, only because

[16:10] if we don't have a formal acknowledgement of a grant, I want to give us cover to not end

[16:14] up being short, and then in the end that bond issue may be, essentially, we can give some

[16:21] that back over time through the assessments if we realize those grants because we're talking

[16:25] before the end of the year doing the formal action. So it's we're very optimistic.

[16:34] And that is that's my report. Okay. Does anybody have any questions?

[16:41] Okay.

[16:45] And Jonathan, are assessments status? You're three.

[16:51] We're down to three outstanding properties on paid properties.

[16:57] The second and third on the list that I provided,

[17:02] it's the same property management company.

[17:04] They've been in touch with me.

[17:06] They said, basically, they can't afford it.

[17:10] I said, well, we can try to work out some payment plan.

[17:13] They never got back to me about that.

[17:15] I'm going to give them a little more time.

[17:17] We will work with the properties to pay and full by the end of the year.

[17:22] We don't rely on over into the next year, but we do allow payment plans.

[17:26] It's been about three weeks and they've been silent.

[17:29] I'm going to give them a little more time.

[17:30] If we don't hear anything, we're going to have to lean those two properties.

[17:34] First one is our previous rental property.

[17:39] We still owe them our final payment of rent or not really rent, but three months worth

[17:46] to get out of the lease, we will reduce that payment by this amount because they haven't paid either.

[17:57] And that will do.

[17:57] You'll play the magical games that it goes from the township hot.

[18:02] We'll be able to handle that.

[18:05] They are, they are complicated to deal with.

[18:09] The last for a call because they have a question, you'll return the call multiple times in three months later.

[18:16] will make the same calls saying we have a question we'd like to talk and we'll say, well,

[18:20] I've returned your call since the spring and then it's just, it's been that way.

[18:26] The property was a godsend thank you for everyone that worked that we had that before.

[18:31] It's like any time, I think, goodness, it was a fine.

[18:34] But just through this dealing with them, they really are MIA and most things where there's

[18:40] an issue, there's a problem with the building, there's a tree that fell down and it's, you

[18:46] I think they think if they don't ever get back you'll just take care of yourself.

[18:50] So we'll say it was thank gosh we had it.

[18:57] Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Moving right along here.

[19:04] Do we have a motion to accept the lowest bit?

[19:12] Uh, if you make a motion to accept the lowest bit from premier building restoration ink in the amount of

[19:17] 266,892 dollars in 99 cents for the Dressor Cemetery wall construction contingent upon

[19:26] solicitor review and acceptance of web pictures.

[19:30] Second.

[19:32] Okay, Jack, just a couple of words on this.

[19:35] Absolutely.

[19:36] So put together a bid recommendation memo that outlines how the project was bid, how it was

[19:47] the two bids, the premier bid being the lowest responsive bid, they did submit their references to us.

[20:00] And on paper it looks very reputable and looks like good work, a lot of work with churches and other types.

[20:09] To face step to get this done, it is. And once that cemetery is actually relocated, I personally will feel better because I'll be visiting it with my friend.

[20:23] Yeah, I'll feel a lot better as well. It's a big step.

[20:28] So that's why it is recommended for awarding.

[20:32] Okay.

[20:33] As part of this meeting.

[20:34] Okay.

[20:35] We have a question.

[20:37] I have questions.

[20:38] Yeah.

[20:38] Jack, what was the overall budget for this?

[20:43] It was 250,000?

[20:45] Yeah.

[20:45] Okay.

[20:47] And what's your current estimate of the vinyl cost?

[20:50] Well, this 266 is a component of that, the other component is the work that the archaeologists

[20:58] are doing right now.

[21:00] So this is over the budget and is eating into the contingency that we had for our construction.

[21:08] That being said, with the other funding that we're going after and things of that nature,

[21:15] We feel like it's still something that should be recommended because if we went down the path of rejecting and rebitting, I don't know that we would get any better.

[21:27] Right.

[21:28] So unless I'll forget the Zipram came in 40,000 less than budget.

[21:33] So what I'd say in the end is, as I think for the time being, we would say, there's a 5 percent contingency on the project, which is like three and a quarter, which is not a huge number.

[21:44] I think the concerns we have with having to try to preserve that contingency is going to be when we

[21:49] pave next year of the unpredictability of it's going to be based upon gas and oil prices and where that is.

[21:57] That one of these grants comes in, it's particularly the one that Jack mentioned, which is for a million and eighty thousand dollars.

[22:03] Which would reduce the bond amount, but however, what we will recommend is we replenish.

[22:10] If we get that grant, we replenish the contingency fund and only reduce the bond amount by the

[22:16] difference, instead of a million, maybe 800,000. So it's still a reduction, but we have

[22:21] that contingency in there when we get into the costly or part of the project.

[22:31] Can you sit into the microphone? Sorry.

[22:34] No worries.

[22:35] My question was what was the date of the original estimate?

[22:38] From the cemetery for the 250 that that's that's been

[22:45] Good two years the reason I asked that is that in my non municipal authority like I

[22:52] Managed a billion dollar capital program and we're running into this issue a lot and one of the practices that we've put into places

[22:58] That when something goes on the bid on the street for bid

[23:01] Maybe we would want to consider having

[23:04] that cost engineers re-look at the bid just so that we don't get surprised or at least

[23:10] something to understand where the areas of potential cost volatility are.

[23:14] Just something to consider for future pieces.

[23:16] No, agreed.

[23:17] And I think particularly on paving and those sorts of things were really doing that.

[23:21] I think this just didn't feel like it was something that had lots of, yeah, you know.

[23:26] So this, thank you.

[23:27] This wine item was really the toughest estimate because of the unique nature of it.

[23:34] The construction cost we are continually updating that has been steadily growing as a result of asphalt prices and things of that nature.

[23:50] That cost estimate, which is a huge component of the grants grant applications, is at a point when we're at a 4% or 5% contingency level right now.

[24:04] So we've got it to the point where it's really at a final design

[24:09] level, not only for the unit costs, but for the actual items themselves.

[24:15] I mean, we're not in categories anymore.

[24:19] We're into specific items.

[24:23] We've designated all of our special items,

[24:26] like relocating mailboxes and things that you're getting

[24:31] into the final look of your costs so I feel a lot better about the construction cost than

[24:40] we did that line item and this is this is not me knocking the all of the previous

[24:45] work it's just this is something that we've observed it's observing nationally and you

[24:49] have to stop right now no we appreciate anybody else have any questions all right we have

[25:00] First, okay. Next, when you can angle it. Motion to authorize keystone acquisition services, supplement dated July 29, 2026. And then amount not to exceed 10, 140 dollars.

[25:15] Preservices to complete right in the way clearance for the address you found where it improvements project.

[25:22] Any, do we have a second? Second, okay. Any questions? Jacqueline just gives a couple words.

[25:29] Yes, this is with Keystone there, the ones that are doing the acquisition and negotiations for the Dresher Town Road Project as it relates to the right of way.

[25:40] They have done a very good job and need this supplement to get the project over the finish line for Penn dot right of way clearance.

[25:51] As I mentioned, there were some extra work items that were introduced through the right of way process by some of the

[25:59] claimants that they've had to address.

[26:01] OK.

[26:03] We had a motion.

[26:05] I think we had a second, right?

[26:08] Any questions?

[26:10] All favor?

[26:11] All right.

[26:12] OK.

[26:14] And the last item, you know, let your good at it.

[26:16] You can sit or rest of the region, M-A-2-6-0-0-5-6

[26:23] authorized CFA multimodal transportation fund grant signature.

[26:29] We have a second.

[26:31] Second.

[26:32] This is a requirement of the bid or the grant application that we just submitted at

[26:40] the end of July.

[26:42] It's for the CFA multimodal to see if we can get some additional dollars towards

[26:46] Dress your town.

[26:48] The resolution is a standard resolution

[26:51] to authorize the signatories if the grant were awarded.

[26:59] We have a motion in a second.

[27:01] Any questions?

[27:02] I have one.

[27:04] And that's minor.

[27:05] We got to talk about the signatory on this.

[27:08] I would set up.

[27:10] That's about all.

[27:11] Between you two guys, we'll get that straight in the next.

[27:15] All in favor?

[27:16] Hi.

[27:17] Opposed.

[27:19] Okay.

[27:20] Do we have any other new business?

[27:23] I've got a question.

[27:23] What are we?

[27:24] Where are we going with the building down there?

[27:28] Why I'm killing it?

[27:31] Of the former Starbucks.

[27:33] The former.

[27:34] So that is now owned by the township.

[27:38] And the intent in the near term is that it can be used

[27:42] for the construction field inspection office.

[27:46] That's what it was used for with the zip ramp

[27:50] and the commerce drive projects.

[27:52] We were able to actually rent that to the contractor

[27:56] and that's where we had our inspection team.

[28:00] So we have, through the township, a sidewalk project

[28:06] project through a PEN dot grant for farm lane and lime kiln pike that is coming to the end of the PEN dot process and will be bid through PEN dot towards the end of the year.

[28:22] So looking to see if that contractor would rent the space.

[28:27] And then with the Dresher Town Road project, we would like to do the same.

[28:31] that is obviously going to be set off by the township. Is it only by the township or

[28:36] their municipal authority? Township. The township has been the one to secure

[28:45] all of the right of way. We have a estimated cost of maintaining that building. I'm sure

[28:55] It has to pay taxes, right?

[28:57] It has to pay taxes.

[28:59] And yes, there are utility costs.

[29:03] That's why we want to rent it out.

[29:06] And as it gets to the end of the construction period,

[29:10] at that point, it could be demolished.

[29:16] And that's to be determined.

[29:18] I think the discussion with the Tanship is going to be,

[29:21] Do we believe that there's a productive reuse serves the township's interest?

[29:28] I am, I was just having the side discussion with Jonathan.

[29:32] I'm always very reluctant to have the township own such assets.

[29:36] That's not really in our purview and we have other assets we're looking at in terms of the township of what to do with them.

[29:44] I think that discussion with the board is going to be frankly and with our solicitors' office and with our staff.

[29:51] What are the reuse possibilities for that property?

[29:54] We know that the parking on that changed, you know, you can put something out for bid as it.

[30:00] It is with some framework around it to see if there's interest objectively long term I would rather we not own that. We shouldn't be managing how we're going to offset expenses, utilities, and it's just really not.

[30:14] or say you don't want to be in front of me.

[30:17] OK.

[30:18] Jack, one other question related is, we were still

[30:22] granting that trail or do you see that as something

[30:27] we should continue to rent, possibly, for the bridge

[30:29] project, or should we go ahead and close that out?

[30:35] We've been, that trail was basically the bridge project.

[30:41] It's perfect for that trail or do the location of it.

[30:46] we would recoup some of the cost of that, but I agree it's been a while. It's been a while.

[30:55] I'm I'm tending to think that we should probably let go of it. Yeah, even if we ran another one

[31:01] any year, I'd be better off that way. I agree. So you were just a Disney, right? And you just

[31:08] like what let it go. So I'm kind of worried that you just did that.

[31:16] Don't start saying. I'm like any other news.

[31:18] You have to give us one verse.

[31:22] Okay. Is there any other new business?

[31:25] Okay. Our next meeting is September all of.

[31:30] And we have a motion to adjourn.

[31:33] All in favour?

[31:34] Alright, I'm gonna come down with you guys here and just question, sing me some of the six.

[31:41] There's been a little bit of tax.

[31:42] When you said a billion dollars that you'd like to do, I'd like to do that.

[31:45] No, I could do that.

[31:47] You might be going to go later.

[31:49] Just go to the publisher.

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