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[11:03] » order. This is our Monday, August the 10th

[11:09] work session agenda. And I'm going to uh I'm going to do a roll call first.

[11:17] Mr. Bur >> present.

[11:18] » Mr. Tindle >> here.

[11:19] » Mr. Lucas >> here.

[11:21] » Mr. Cox >> here.

[11:24] » All right. Before we start, I'm going to ask Mr. Bur if he would to lead us in

[11:28] prayer. Okay, [clears throat]

[11:31] bow his prayer. Father, we thank you Lord for this day that you made. We will

[11:35] rejoice and be glad in it. We thank you Lord for this opportunity oh God to be

[11:39] able to serve the citizens of this county. We pray God that we deliberate

[11:42] the business of this county that you will be with us in each and every

[11:45] decision that we make. We thank you oh God for your son Jesus died for our sins

[11:48] and we pray God you just continue to bless us in Jesus name. Amen.

[11:52] » Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[11:57] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation

[12:03] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[12:07] » Thank you. [clears throat]

[12:14] » Oh, we got a friend. >> We got an employee of the month that

[12:19] we're going to recognize before we start. Teresa. [clears throat]

[12:25] Okay.

[12:33] » I'll come over here when they come up.

[12:49] » All right. commission. Um, our HR director had to be out. So, I'm going to

[12:55] do this part forward and I'm going to read to you the letter that was

[13:00] submitted for employee of the month. This is from Joe Med Vehicle

[13:06] Maintenance. I would like to nominate Mr. Austin Hill for employee of the

[13:09] month for wear county. Mr. Hill is an outstanding employee who insistently

[13:14] goes above and beyond what is asked of him. He is always willing to assist not

[13:19] only members of our department but also employees from other departments

[13:22] whenever needed. His professionalism, positive attitude and strong work ethic

[13:27] make him a vital asset to work kind of vehicle maintenance.

[13:31] Mr. Hill demonstrates exceptional dedication to his job, often staying

[13:34] late to ensure tasks are completed correctly and on time. He is eager to

[13:39] learn new skills and takes on responsibilities outside of his normal

[13:42] duties, showing both initiative and a commitment to growth. Sorry bother

[13:48] running around. In addition, Mr. Hill leads by example. He is always willing

[13:52] to help train and guide new employees, ensuring they understand their

[13:55] responsibilities and perform their tasks effectively. His knowledge and

[13:59] experience have contributed to saving the county both time and money. Mr. Hill

[14:04] recently welcomed a new baby girl into his family and even during this exciting

[14:08] time, he has continued to show dedication and reliability in his work.

[14:12] For these reasons, I am proud to nominate Mr. Austin Hill as employee of

[14:15] the month respectfully Joe. >> All right.

[14:20] » Congratulations. >> Present Mr. Austin

[14:25] got manager.

[14:32] [laughter]

[14:36] » On down here, Mr. C. >> Come on. Let's get on in here like we

[14:42] like each other now. Yeah. [laughter]

[15:03] » You ready to show him? Take a picture. I'm ready. Stand back.

[15:08] All right. Get him to stick. >> When they get through

[15:22] » two.

[15:32] [snorts] Okay. Right here.

[15:37] One more time.

[15:43] Thank you very much.

[15:48] [laughter] Congratulations.

[15:52] » Oh, good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for your service.

[15:58] » Thank you, Jeff. >> Thank you, Joe.

[16:02] » Okay. [clears throat] We have a guest speaker, Will Meadows

[16:07] with the Georgia Forestry. Would you please come up?

[16:15] » Good afternoon, commission. I just wanted to take this time to introduce

[16:18] the wear county unit to you guys. Uh like you said, my name is Will Meadows.

[16:22] I am the uh interim chief ranger along with Lamar Fred. He's our other uh

[16:28] interim chief ranger. We have three other rangers. We have uh Brad Durren.

[16:33] We have Clay Murray and we have a new ranger that just got hired, Mr. Garrett

[16:38] Cruz. So, we just wanted to take this time to introduce the new unit and uh

[16:42] say that we're here for the citizens of We County in the woods, whether

[16:46] protecting you from wildfires or fly on some fire breaks or doing some herand.

[16:51] So, need anything, get with us and give us a call.

[16:54] » Have them all come up here so we can see everybody.

[16:59] » Two, three of them. >> There's five total.

[17:02] » Five. Yeah. Introduce all rangers. >> All rangers.

[17:06] » So they going to quell the fires out there for us.

[17:09] » That's it. >> I'm going to try. It's all we can do is

[17:12] try. Ain't >> it?

[17:18] » Y'all might need to get together like y'all like each other.

[17:21] » Yeah. Real close together, guys. >> Got to act like y'all like each other a

[17:25] little bit. [laughter]

[17:33] Never mind.

[17:41] » Excuse me.

[17:44] » You all right?

[17:51] » I saw that. I felt that

[17:56] that the floor is not left.

[18:05] » Thank y'all.

[18:10] » Okay.

[18:15] » All right. Thank y'all for coming.

[18:21] [snorts] >> Let's move on.

[18:25] » [clears throat] >> County IT purchase of the sonic security

[18:30] firewall software come up.

[18:38] » How you doing, sir? >> Good. So, the sonic firewall is our main

[18:42] security appliance we have here at the county that secures all communication in

[18:47] and out of the county. Um, this is just a three-year renewal of the product that

[18:52] we already have in place. You don't have to replace any hardware. It's just the

[18:55] software renewal for the next three years.

[18:59] » And they update it continuously. >> Yes, they update it continuously.

[19:04] » Okay. >> So any any new um versions [snorts]

[19:07] that's released, we automatically get that through this agreement.

[19:12] » Okay. Don't have to pay extra for that. >> Don't pay anything extra. All support.

[19:16] Um if we have issues with it, we call support and all of it's included in this

[19:21] price. >> Okay. Good deal.

[19:22] » Replacement of the equipment's also included in the price. If the the

[19:26] hardware fails, they send us a brand new appliance if we install it and get it

[19:31] back up and running. >> Good deal.

[19:32] » All right. >> Okay.

[19:33] » I like anybody got anything else? >> Well, appreciate everything you do,

[19:37] Carlos, for the uh IT department. Uh can you just elaborate just a little bit

[19:42] more on the firewall for people like myself that's not that computer savvy?

[19:46] And when you say a computer firewall, we're not talking about a little, you

[19:50] know, wall, but So, this is just an appliance that's that's um all digital

[19:55] communication coming in. This eliminates people from hacking into our systems,

[20:00] eliminates um anybody that can just uh send files across the internet. It scans

[20:06] for those. So, there's no malicious activity that's being taken place such

[20:09] as malware or intrusion uh [snorts] features that's in a file that somebody

[20:14] can then utilize to gain access back to our network. Um it also gives us the

[20:20] ability to allow users to have VPN connections coming back in. So, we

[20:24] utilize all those features within the firewall to keep all communication

[20:28] secure. >> And I guess the downside is that if that

[20:33] wall is ever breached or whatever that whoever has taken control, they can

[20:38] pretty much like demand a ransom. >> Correct.

[20:40] » To free it up. So that's where you know we have cyber

[20:43] security uh insurance in place that eliminates that problem that yes if we

[20:49] didn't pay for this service here then we open oursel up to security breaches

[20:53] » right >> okay that's all I have Mr.

[20:57] Okay. >> Anybody else got anything?

[20:59] » I'm satisfied. >> All right.

[21:01] » So, we got a threeyear. >> It's a three-year plan with it.

[21:05] » Yes. >> Every three years. We we usually do a

[21:09] three-year plan because of the fact that the next three years the hardware may

[21:13] change. The operating system that that runs on it may change. That's the main

[21:18] uh brains of the system. So if that changes then we look at replacing the

[21:22] hardware along with renewing the the three-year agreement. So you want to do

[21:27] three years because you don't want to go five years out and then replace

[21:31] something and then it become obsolete. >> Right. Okay. Anybody got anything else?

[21:38] » Also, Mr. Chairman, I just like to say a three-year deal is about a $6,000

[21:43] » Yeah. cost savings if you uh >> Pretty good savings

[21:45] » rather than buying it by the year. >> Yeah. So you got about two grand a year.

[21:50] » Yeah. >> It's a good deal.

[21:53] » Okay. Anything else?

[21:57] » No, sir. >> Move it over.

[22:00] » Where County Police >> B

[22:03] where County Police purchase one crew cab 4x4 truck.

[22:17] Dave Mr. Dave.

[22:20] » Yes, sir. Uh chairman, want to thank you for the opportunity. Um we're looking at

[22:27] replacing our uh aging vehicles. We have two vehicles. One just hitting

[22:33] [clears throat] 200,000, one's over 200,000 miles and uh definitely running

[22:40] at the capacity where they need to be replaced. Um, so

[22:49] » you got us some prices? >> I've got them.

[22:55] » Um, so Mr. Meadows, vehicle maintenance supervisor,

[22:59] uh, sought prices for three vehicles. Um, he asked [snorts] for F-150 uh, XL

[23:07] from Robert Robinson Ford. They gave a price of $48,98.

[23:13] Hendrick Automotive Group um gave a price for a Chevrolet Silverado

[23:17] Silverado 1500 for a price of 4564610.

[23:24] And then Allan Vigil Ford for F-150 and they quoted a XLT. Um I'm not sure why

[23:32] they quoted XLT, but they did. And that bid was for $58,515.

[23:38] Um, and with the uh price difference so close between uh

[23:44] the Chevrolet and the Ford, if you commission choose to do so, we re excuse

[23:48] me, we recommend to go with the Ford because that's what most our fleet is

[23:52] and it's just easier to maintain one one type of vehicle as several.

[23:57] » Mr. Chairman, >> Mr. Chairman, I mean, Mr. County

[24:00] Manager, I also recommend to go with Robertson because he's local,

[24:03] » right? >> I got it.

[24:04] » So, I would like to keep it local. >> Go ahead. I'm sorry,

[24:08] » Dave. Are they any way that we can hold off on this till we can look at the

[24:14] lease program we uh wanting to maybe put into place? It might take a, you know, a

[24:20] few weeks. >> I, you know, honestly, from the way I've

[24:25] seen it, I highly recommend >> uh looking at the lease program. Yeah.

[24:30] » Because for uh vehicles for first responders, it appears to be a very good

[24:36] program. That's that's what I would really like to to look at.

[24:39] » Hold off for that >> if if we could hold off on it for a

[24:42] little bit and you know maybe the the maintenance supervisors can look at I

[24:48] know they have started looking at it. I don't know how far along he is with it

[24:51] but >> Yes sir. And honestly we we I mean we

[24:55] have two vehicles that need to be replaced.

[24:57] » Okay. >> I just didn't want to put you in a bind

[24:59] but if there's any way you can hold off till we can look at that. You know

[25:03] » we we definitely hold off until you can see That's that's just my suggestion

[25:07] every Thanks. >> They still running on that, ain't they?

[25:11] » They're they're running. We have one in the shop right now uh getting service

[25:15] and had air conditioning problems and I don't know any other way to put it, but

[25:21] mine's starting [snorts] to run like it's constipated, but it is running. So,

[25:26] it gets me down the road. Yeah. >> Okay, Mr. Chairman.

[25:30] » Yeah. also and uh which I know like I say this is a Asian fleet and you

[25:35] mentioned about the uh the leasing which we

[25:39] few couple of years back in my London she can attest to this that we pretty

[25:42] much were almost at the gold line with the leasing but things happened and we

[25:47] weren't able to get it fulfilled and I would like to see that be resurrected at

[25:51] least program to really look at that strongly because a lot of municipalities

[25:55] and counties they're going to the leasing and I think Barry you mentioned

[26:00] some about Mr. medals had already been talking with the lease people and all

[26:05] right just to kind of just give us a little brief synopsis of what right now

[26:09] where we are on that

[26:15] » we got three meadows in here today >> yeah one

[26:18] » yeah I don't know it's good thing or bad thing it's a good thing to tell

[26:23] » uh chairman commission um we have been looking at the lease program I have been

[26:28] through uh about 12 13 meetings with them. Uh Mr. Schubert, Miss Melinda uh

[26:34] has been in several with us and we're down to uh Enterprise. We're down to

[26:40] picking out uh what five vehicles we want to go with. Enterprise has got it

[26:45] where uh we can either pick five vehicles, 10 vehicles, whatever number

[26:50] we choose. >> And we have chose the option that I

[26:53] think would be the best benefit for the county and all that is to do the

[26:58] maintenance program with these vehicles. and Enterprise will take care of all the

[27:02] maintenance of the vehicles except for tires. And uh I think I don't want to

[27:08] speak out of term but I think Mr. Kindle uses enterprise and there are a lot of

[27:14] local municipalities around our area that is using the city of White Cross,

[27:19] uh, Brandon County and a bunch of mun municipalities is going with the lease

[27:24] for the cost savings. And as the age of our vehicles is getting, this is one way

[27:31] that we can spend taxpayer money more efficient and upgrade our fleet.

[27:37] But we're right there at the finish line to uh just make the number on if we want

[27:43] to do five, 10, 15. And they're ready to to get the ball rolling. And once we put

[27:49] the order in, uh it will take about she said it would take about 14 to 20

[27:57] days and we could have the vehicles uh on site and ready to go.

[28:02] » Okay. So, >> okay.

[28:04] » Just like in a case like this right here, like the police department, they

[28:08] needing this vehicle pickup. They pretty much can tell them just

[28:13] about what they want. >> Yes, sir. I can specifically order that

[28:16] vehicle, whatever that department or whatever Mr. Hansen needs. I can tell

[28:21] them what that what we want on that truck and they will they will have it to

[28:25] us. >> Yeah. And again, I think Melinda, she

[28:28] did a lot of leg work. >> She did

[28:30] » with uh getting the inventory and everything. So she's she's aware of it

[28:35] what we were doing and uh just unfortunate right we it fell down

[28:40] because of a lot of extenduating circumstance I'll put it that way.

[28:43] » Yes. We're ready and like I said we've done I've done okay several sever

[28:49] several meetings with them and we're just waiting on some direction to go

[28:52] because I can get Mr. Hansen's vehicle the way he wants it or planning codes or

[28:57] whoever. I can get that vehicle ordered the way they want it and what they need

[29:01] in it and have it here roughly two and a half to three weeks.

[29:06] » And you say they Mr. Meadows, you say that they cover the maintenance on it

[29:11] except tires? >> Yes, sir. And it's cheaper for It's

[29:14] cheaper for us to do tires because we get tires cheaper than Georgia than they

[29:19] do in Florida. >> Okay. What about brakes and stuff like

[29:21] that? >> They they take care of all maintenance.

[29:24] » All maintenance except tires. As long as it's under lease program, they're

[29:27] they're responsible for all maintenance. >> I like that.

[29:30] » James, can we still you can still use floss to lease something like that?

[29:34] Don't I think we do the greater so you should be able to use money?

[29:38] » I think so. I'm not sure. We just have to check on the if you got to have

[29:41] option to buy at the end, but >> okay,

[29:43] » we'll check into it. >> Well, I know with uh with the enterprise

[29:46] stuff, there is an option to buy at the end. Um typically the way we have it, if

[29:50] we want to keep the truck, we lease it for one more year. We'll have it set up

[29:54] on a 36 48 months lease. We'll lease it for one more year and then pay 5.95

[30:00] uh fee for to get the title released and then it's our truck. So there is a an

[30:05] option to purchase on those. And we've had we've been working with Enterprise

[30:08] for 15 years and um for us it was just an easier way to budget expenses. Uh

[30:15] didn't necessarily I want to say it saved us money. Um but you know when you

[30:19] buy rolling stock you're not looking at saving money on that. But, uh, what it

[30:23] did do is where you've got a situation on this this order right here where, uh,

[30:29] one of them ordered an XLT or quoted the XLT instead of the XL. A lot of times if

[30:33] you go straight to the dealer, you're going to get what they have on stock,

[30:37] » you know, and so then you're you're you're stuck with a a truck that's going

[30:41] to be out here on the work work site that's got leather interior. Well, I I

[30:44] don't necessarily need that. I don't need leather and carpet inside my trucks

[30:47] that's going out there on wastewater systems and all this stuff. I want, you

[30:51] know, I want vinyl floors and I don't need all the chrome and all that stuff.

[30:56] And so, um, so we're able to order them factory direct a lot of times. And we'll

[31:00] be able to see that some some of these trucks will probably come from a lot in,

[31:04] you know, wherever they choose from. But as we get into it, it may be you put in

[31:08] order for the year and they have them factory direct shipped. So, it does work

[31:13] out better budgeting um, and also all the maintenance for us. You know,

[31:19] [clears throat] you look, if we get eight trucks at one time, then all eight

[31:22] trucks are going to have to have tires at the same time. All eight trucks are

[31:25] going to have to have brakes at the same time. Then, you know, and so then it's

[31:29] one month, you got $12,000 worth of expenses for that you weren't really

[31:33] anticipating. And so with this, it don't matter when they come in, they get new

[31:37] tires, new brakes. All only thing we have to do is put gas in it, insurance,

[31:43] and drive it. So, it does work out better.

[31:47] We've had a great relationship with Enterprise

[31:49] » and as Mr. Tendle said, we can set the terms whether we want to go 24 months,

[31:54] 36 months, 48 months. We can set the terms whatever best fits our our

[32:01] municipality where county as far as the years and the mileage. So, we have that

[32:06] flexibility that, you know, we're county is one of the big this biggest county in

[32:11] the state of Georgia. We cover more miles. they can work that into into the

[32:16] pricing. And uh I I just think it's a great win-win for

[32:22] » Now, another thing they'll do with that is um [snorts] you know, let's just say

[32:25] you estimate you're going to put 15,000 miles a year on a truck and you want to

[32:30] trade it out after 100,000 miles. But what they'll do is after about um you

[32:35] know, if it's a 48month lease or whatever, after about 24 months, they'll

[32:38] estimate what the mileage is and see where it's going to come out. And if

[32:41] you're going to be a year short or you're going to be hitting your mileage

[32:45] before that next two years is up, they can either adjust that mileage, it it'll

[32:50] it'll kind of offset the payment a little bit to increase the length of

[32:54] time on it, but um they'll work with you on those things. and they're they're

[32:58] constantly reviewing our stock, reviewing our our whole fleet and um you

[33:04] know coming and calling us telling us when it's time to order, when it's time

[33:08] [clears throat] to trade out vehicles. If a vehicle hadn't had maintenance in x

[33:13] number of miles and one of our guys is on the road still driving it, they'll

[33:17] send us a notification that, hey, your driver right here on this truck, they

[33:21] hadn't had it serviced in, you know, 15,000 miles or whatever the case is,

[33:25] and we can uh so they're always um looking over the fleet.

[33:31] » Okay. Any more? That's I think too.

[33:35] » Would it be fair to say that if we went say we went to the leasing and

[33:39] everything that the maintenance budget should kind of go down just a little

[33:43] bit? >> Oh, yes. It would definitely come down

[33:45] because it would take care of the oil changes, the brakes, the the little

[33:50] stuff that we got on those vehicles. Again, tires because we can get tires at

[33:55] a cheaper price. But as far as the oil, the maintenance, and any repairs,

[34:00] that'll be taken care of by >> and we can if we get a Ford, we can use

[34:05] local Ford dealership. But this, you know, whatever use Chevrolet dealership

[34:10] to handle all other ones. >> Are you saying we don't and we ain't

[34:15] going to need a county barn? [clears throat]

[34:17] » We we still got road raers and we still got that just help alleviate some of the

[34:23] pain. >> All right. All right. All right.

[34:26] » Thank you, sir. Meadows. Thank you. Thank you, Dave. We probably won't table

[34:31] this thing then. Is that right? >> Table.

[34:34] » Let's table this new truck then. >> Okay.

[34:38] » We just won't period over. >> We're just not going to carry over.

[34:44] » Just carry it over. That's right. But it'll go to the table. Okay.

[34:49] I'm going to ask Mr. Bur if he would take C.

[34:53] Okay. Got it. >> All right, Mr. Chairman. Uh item C on

[34:58] our agenda is a water bid to C for Gooding Bay Road Paving for from Ball to

[35:03] Highway extending 2 miles. Uh we got three seal bids on that with Drift

[35:08] Brothers LLC coming in at the lowest bid at $818,743.78.

[35:15] And uh so that's where we are with that. They

[35:20] were the low bidder. >> 818,000.

[35:23] » Yeah. 74378. >> Okay.

[35:34] » In the discussion on that. >> Yes, sir. I I would, Mr. Burst, if I

[35:38] could. Uh I went out there uh this weekend and

[35:42] just counting the the uh residents out there. There's 24 people out there. this

[35:48] road will give them a good way out when it gets wet weather and

[35:55] we're doing the same thing in Malwood that we doing here the for the people in

[36:00] the rural areas to help them get you know get them a good way out of the the

[36:03] neighborhoods in that's in the rural area. So, and I went out there and like

[36:07] I say there was 24 homes out there that this will help. So,

[36:13] » okay. >> I recommend let's do it.

[36:15] » Okay. >> All right.

[36:18] Mr. Commission, um, just for the record, I want to read the uh, the second bid

[36:23] was from Scruds Scrubs Company for 972,893.51

[36:29] and the third bid was from East Coast Asphalt for 1,155,936.

[36:37] » Okay. All righty. >> All right.

[36:41] » Okay. With that being said, we carry it over.

[36:44] » You can just carry it over. >> Yes, sir.

[36:46] » Okay. >> We carry it over. Back to you, Mr.

[36:48] Chairman. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bur. All right.

[36:51] We'll move on to D. Selection of the garbage collection and disposal company.

[36:59] U

[37:03] » we got two propos. >> Let's see. We had two Carlos and uh we

[37:07] had we run some numbers on that. >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman. Yeah, we had uh

[37:13] we received proposals from um for garbage collection and and um and

[37:19] disposal and we received two proposals, two proposals from um from one from

[37:25] Ryland Environmental and one for Republic Services. Um in those we opened

[37:30] those, we read out the uh price list that was given then um that day and then

[37:36] we had three staff members to evaluate those proposals. And we um and they

[37:42] scored them based on um company experience, personnel experience,

[37:46] approach, and fees. And with that, the um

[37:51] uh Republican service average weighted score was 97.42

[37:56] and rev Rland Environmental was 89.42 um was the um outcome of those scores.

[38:07] [snorts] Okay. Any more discussion?

[38:12] » And I think both companies are here. If >> could we hear from them,

[38:18] » sir? >> Could we hear from them?

[38:20] » I think you can hear from >> if they want to come up. Can we get

[38:25] Republic >> who's here from Republic Service?

[38:45] » [snorts] >> Good afternoon. I am manager for public

[38:50] and this is our local operations. >> All right. How y'all doing?

[38:56] » Doing well, thank you. How are you >> doing? Good.

[38:59] » We um so just tell you a little bit about us individually. all of our bios,

[39:04] a lengthy bio material for yall as the proposal package that we signed up for

[39:11] 16 years um varying roles and 10 years and then in um county [snorts]

[39:21] six years. So we've had this contract for a while um over two decades. So,

[39:26] we're familiar with it. Um, you know, with different things, hurricanes,

[39:32] COVID, um, we've got three responses. We've got, um, the local transfer

[39:36] station as well as the landfill. And, um, so everything that you dispose of in

[39:41] this county will go, um, to our landfill in so it stays, you know, it's um, you

[39:49] know, properly disposed of. We've got our maintenance here and our operations

[39:54] supervisor here as well both company um but we've had great service um for you

[40:01] know years as long as I've been around that I know we missed it as well. So we

[40:05] can speak more to that um but you know it's been a privilege for us to serve

[40:09] this county for as long as we have and we certainly hope to continue doing so.

[40:13] We are a liberal part of the community involved in different community events

[40:18] and we continue to do that in our operations building here as well.

[40:23] » Okay. >> Okay. So, your home office building is

[40:26] here in work. >> Yes, sir.

[40:28] » All right. >> I got a question, Mr. Chairman.

[40:31] » Yeah. Go ahead. >> Um, I get a lot of complaints about

[40:35] people calling that tries to get a hold of someone about their trash can. I got

[40:40] one guy said it's been three weeks and he's got not got a hold of anybody. Did

[40:44] that where did they call to get a hold of somebody because

[40:47] » Yeah, there's several options really. Um and I've actually I just sent that back

[40:51] to Beverly this morning. Um but we've got in there just a list of different

[40:56] people that you call. We do have a call center really if you want to call after

[41:00] hours um after work closed and that's a good option for you or Saturday morning

[41:03] because you forgot to call early great option for you. But you can call our

[41:06] local office. We've got our people. Our logistics analyst is typically the

[41:12] person that handles those. >> Like I say, I know I've had three calls

[41:16] last week that they said they tried to get a hold of somebody and they couldn't

[41:19] not never get a hold of anybody. >> They call us locally and we'd be happy

[41:23] to submit that information to them as well. We call locally. It's much easier

[41:27] for us to handle things right away. You know, we can call out to a driver right

[41:31] then or handle it immediately for the customers. We try to get our number. We

[41:35] have and operations

[41:39] supervisor that you know are following him all the

[41:43] time. >> And something else that we as well is

[41:46] tracking my truck. So anyone can go on to our website, put in their address and

[41:50] see what their service day is, if they've been serviced yet,

[41:54] » um what the holiday schedule is, if there's any kind of delays with, you

[41:57] know, storm or whatever is coming on time. Um it'll show all that as well.

[42:03] And so you know scheding the bulk pickup as well.

[42:08] » So um really you know continuing to use us for service nothing would change. Um

[42:13] so business as usual we did go down in rates from our assistant rates. So we

[42:18] made savings to the county and the residents in our county. Um and we're

[42:24] just looking we're got different technology coming in now than we had the

[42:28] last time this truck. We now have um rise tablets and rise which question

[42:34] where all of our drivers are at any given time where they are in the route

[42:38] that they serve. So that way there's any kind of bringing backup support to help

[42:43] cover routes. Um and we are going to be releasing in the next couple of years.

[42:49] Um well maybe next year depending on where we line up in it. But we'll have

[42:53] cameras also um on the truck showing going to the hopper just to see what's

[42:57] kind of filling and garbage. And it'll also have, you know, pictures

[43:03] of shoes of us driving by the house. So if ever there's anyone that says, "Well,

[43:06] what, you know, I wasn't serviced. I got missed." Well, our truck will show that,

[43:10] "Hey, the car was mounted." And we currently have cameras in the truck,

[43:14] which is out facing and in facing. And in the past three and a half years,

[43:19] we've had no safety incident all at all at Cross. So we are about safety. So

[43:24] that is huge. And another thing with that system

[43:28] that's going to be coming out as well is it'll save the time because if you've

[43:32] got to go see, hey, what's that address? Does anyone live there? We can pull up

[43:36] our pictures from when our driver goes back. They go by every week. So you'll

[43:39] have a week by week um kind of history of of each road and weight.

[43:46] » Okay, Mr. Chairman. >> Okay. Any more? So, so one one of the

[43:50] complaints that that I've received from several people is when they're trying to

[43:53] take stuff out on Saturday, you know, such as myself. I mean, I work Monday

[43:56] through Friday. By the time I get off work, I don't have, you know, any time

[44:00] to get a load of stuff out there to you and you're not open on Saturday.

[44:04] » Yep. And that's where that um we do have, you know, we are running sometimes

[44:08] on Saturdays and that's where that call center um network because then they'll

[44:12] put in the work order and that'll get back to us and we'll see the local

[44:16] office on Wednesday. You're talking to specifically for the transportation.

[44:20] » Yeah. Yeah. So, like if I want to hold haul off a load of construction debris

[44:24] or, you know, build a doghouse or I got an old recliner I want to take out

[44:29] there, you know, something like that. Not only that, but then, you know, it'll

[44:33] cost me gosh, probably about $100, $150 to haul off that thing. And so, I know

[44:39] that's what that's kind of complaints that I've heard. A it's a it's a very

[44:43] high dumping rate when we go out there and and it's not open on Saturdays and

[44:49] so um a lot of our you know folks work during the week they can't take anything

[44:54] off to you know and then as far as putting something on the side of the

[44:58] road and calling for you to come pick it up. I've heard that there's been some

[45:02] several delays where a refrigerator or something like that sat on the road for

[45:05] a week or two and nobody come by and picked it up. And so, you know, just

[45:09] some concerns about that and, you know, I don't want a refrigerator or an old

[45:13] freezer or whatever sitting on the side of my driveway until, you know, for a,

[45:18] you know, extended period of time. You know, I'd like to be able to have a

[45:21] schedule of it. You say, "All right, I will be there tomorrow morning." We have

[45:24] it out there and it gets picked up not, you know, three, four, five, six days

[45:27] later. So that is another complaint that I've received from several in my area.

[45:36] » Well, we we used to be open on Saturdays before CO and then when CO hit, that's

[45:40] when they kind of shut down the Saturday. Um I'm not I'm not part of

[45:45] that section as far as the the transfer station um with billing. But um that's

[45:51] something that we could certainly look into is is opening you know one or two

[45:54] Saturdays a month that you know like we used to go back to the Saturdays. And as

[45:58] far as the bulk pickup you know we do request that the customers call in and

[46:03] schedule at least five items which they get up to five items every month um to

[46:07] schedule. So when we come out if it's not at the curb we do take a picture and

[46:11] we notify the customer it wasn't out when we got there. That kind of thing.

[46:14] Other than that um I don't have specifics to be able to tell you um or

[46:19] deep dive into >> right and I don't have a specific

[46:21] address that you could look up or anything. It's just random complaints

[46:25] that we received. >> I can't recall any any issues that we've

[46:28] had to customers but you know that

[46:34] is open every Saturday.

[46:42] [clears throat]

[46:45] » Mr. Chairman, I got a question. That's one of the biggest things too I've heard

[46:48] is the Saturdays >> because the majority, you know, like me,

[46:53] I work Monday through Friday as well >> and we were open for a while, but the

[46:57] demand wasn't there and maybe just during CO everybody got everything

[47:00] cleaned up and and now we've gotten sloppy [laughter] again and we need need

[47:03] to go to the double. Um, so that's how

[47:08] » Okay. Um, we we've started a trash pickup day every once um a month. I

[47:16] mean, one one Saturday out of each month. Do do y'all know how many dumpers

[47:21] y'all have offered us to do that with or >> for the the quarterly?

[47:28] » Yeah.

[47:32] » 430 right there. >> It was what now?

[47:34] » 430 containers. >> That's That's what y'all offering to

[47:38] give us. >> It said I think it says two on the

[47:43] » two on the thing. I couldn't remember. I knew that if one two or four or

[47:47] something I couldn't remember. >> So the ones the ones that we're doing

[47:50] now which is all that's county funded. We asked for three dumpsters. I think we

[47:55] ended up having the um fourth dumpster because we had to we filled up all

[48:00] three. Um >> so we end up getting uh well they end up

[48:05] bringing one back. We loaded up the fourth dumpster. Um but that was all

[48:09] county funded. In the proposal, the Republican is offering for offering two

[48:15] dumpsters on a quarterly basis. Um, and then Ryland's offering four on a quarter

[48:20] bas

[48:24] [clears throat] something free. So that's that's why I asked that question.

[48:28] [laughter] >> Those additional ones are extremely

[48:32] discounted.

[48:39] So

[48:42] what it was before? >> Okay.

[48:45] » All right. Any more? >> You say it's half of what

[48:50] » for each one? >> It was 350.

[48:54] » That's a bit more than half. >> Is it 150 for the dumpster and then we

[49:00] and then every how much the tonnage is? >> Correct. Yes. 70 a ton.

[49:04] » Yes. And that's beyond the two that's included. Anything together.

[49:13] » Okay. Okay. >> So, put all the heavy stuff in first.

[49:20] » I got you. Thank y'all. Appreciate it. >> All right. Thank you, sir.

[49:23] » Chairman, I got you. >> You want to ask them something else?

[49:27] » Stop talking about the trash. Let's talk about the franchise fee on the Monday.

[49:32] Yeah. >> So, we would continue the $15,000.

[49:37] » Okay. So, how long has it been that >> at least for the last three years or

[49:42] five years? >> Five years.

[49:46] » So, at least at least the last two years.

[49:48] » Yeah. >> Like the last 10 years been the same

[49:51] thing? >> Yes.

[49:52] » So, you think it's maybe time we kind of look at that part of it too?

[49:56] » Well, the contract the RP did not call for a franchise fee. We just included

[50:00] it. um with the rule because it's something that we've always done.

[50:07] We kept that. >> So we we pay an additional 15.

[50:11] » No, you pay us. >> Oh, you pay us?

[50:13] » Yeah. Franchise, but it's been the same thing for what? 10 years, I think. Say

[50:17] it. >> 10 years.

[50:18] » 10 years. >> Yeah. And I [snorts] was just wondering

[50:20] if it may be a possibility of, you know, >> bumping it up to 20 years.

[50:24] » Well, that's kind of what I'm want to say. [laughter]

[50:27] » Yeah. I mean >> it

[50:32] [laughter]

[50:36] is you know one year terms that um for this

[50:41] RFP we did present it at 15,000 to say that next year

[50:48] » next year >> next year the RFP submitted is for

[50:51] [snorts] you know the one year so you have likely

[50:56] renew It's a one year, it's a one-year um initial with um four years additional

[51:04] options, I believe, is what it is. U and then to answer the RFP question is on my

[51:09] end is is I I didn't find I used the RFP we used last time we bid this and there

[51:14] was no franchise fee in it as well. So that's why I include a franchise fee in

[51:19] the RFP.

[51:22] » But Mr. Chairman, I have a question if I can. Um

[51:25] » on a bill for Republic Services, there's a item that says um county host fee and

[51:33] state fee. What is that? It's 15 cent. I think what it is. What is that?

[51:37] » I'm sorry. >> I think it's 15 cent. I'm just trying. I

[51:40] don't know what that is. I just >> There's different state taxes um that

[51:45] are that are state government invest. It doesn't matter who you go with those are

[51:49] going to be in there, >> right? And I think a lot of that is with

[51:52] the retirey programs that kind of funds that um it funds um you know different

[51:58] environmental requirements from the state. So again those are those are

[52:02] things that are state [snorts] beyond our control of the county.

[52:06] [clears throat] I'm not sure about

[52:09] » they're all on the same line. >> Okay.

[52:11] » Yeah.

[52:17] I got one more question that's going to be

[52:20] » Right. Right. I just wasn't sure. >> Yeah. So, yeah, like I said, that's

[52:23] where the fun and I think some of that this year went

[52:27] or last year went to the hurricane.

[52:32] » Okay. One more. >> I got one. Do y'all know how many

[52:35] customers we have in the county?

[52:42] » I had recently done one because we're our subscription service. Mhm.

[52:45] » Um I had I haven't done one in about six

[52:50] months, but we're about 23 2400 subscribed

[52:55] customers to county and we get ones that don't have a subscription move their can

[53:01] roughly 23 24

[53:06] » Milwood area seems to be an area that it's kind of increasing with few people

[53:10] coming and building. So that's that's one area that not a huge number but

[53:14] increasingly getting new customers coming in building.

[53:19] » Thank you sir. >> Thank you ma'am.

[53:22] » Thank you. >> All right.

[53:34] » This is

[53:39] this is a hard job. What they're describing that there's so many here all

[53:43] night talking about all the different thing that's happened

[53:47] but I want to remind y'all price alone is not a good measure of bank you don't

[53:51] know let me explain to you what I mean by that

[53:56] we offer in our in our bid we offer on one Saturday a month transfer our

[54:03] transfer station one Saturday every month okay

[54:08] second thing that I'll explain was value is that we offered in our RFP, our bid,

[54:15] every customer gets 300 pounds once a quarter for free to our transfer

[54:22] station. So, they did offer $15,000 franchise fee

[54:27] that goes to the county. That doesn't help your customers, but what we're

[54:31] doing will help your customer if every um and I'm not sure they

[54:38] whether they was sure about that number, but I'm think

[54:42] I ran that contract for 20 years. It was always 5,000 customers or more.

[54:48] So, I'm not I can't dispute what he said, but

[54:53] if um just say a thousand just say all 5,000 customers wanted that 300 pounds

[55:01] four times a year at the minimum charge. That's $500,000 in a year.

[55:07] That franchise here of $15,000 is is nice.

[55:12] But what we're doing is offering to help your citizens.

[55:17] I know one one bag of trash in that $515 for 20 pound bag of trash. That's a

[55:27] fact. It's 55 minimum and we're offering $25.

[55:35] They have a think $17 a ton. I would be >> one more time. Say that one.

[55:43] » What did you just say? >> The first thing the minimum. Yes, sir.

[55:47] » Okay. One bag of trash through their transfer station [clears throat] is

[55:52] $6153. >> Okay.

[55:55] » Our minimum would be $25, not 600. >> All right.

[56:01] And go to the next one. >> The next thing was they currently

[56:04] charging $17.50 a ton.

[56:09] Our charge is 70 >> 70

[56:12] » 70. We put in our bid.

[56:18] Okay. >> And y'all offer what? Four four dumpster

[56:26] that wasn't because of the special collection.

[56:29] » Yes. >> Where we go on top of the hill. That's

[56:31] the big it's something I know is needed right now. Especially

[56:36] got a lot of illegal dumping because the transportation is not open on Saturday

[56:40] and the most common working people have to get there on Saturday. So there was a

[56:44] lot of illegal dumping and y'all had to go to the special Saturday collection

[56:49] and we offered four free roll off at no charge. After that we went to 350 flat

[56:56] rate. I think do the math on there 350 360.

[57:03] » Flat rate meaning whatever we put in it. You going to haul off

[57:07] » after we reach four three containers. The fifth one will be at 350.

[57:14] But that flat rate covers what's in the dumpster, too.

[57:17] » Yeah. Flat rate means >> to dumpster plus dumping.

[57:21] » So, y'all offering four and they're offering two.

[57:25] » That's right. >> And then our fifth one would cost us

[57:28] extra and their third one would cost us extra.

[57:31] » That's right. That's what I >> Is that what is that, Mr. David? Is that

[57:35] right? Our third one would cost us extra.

[57:37] » That's correct. And ours is 150 for the third for that third one.

[57:42] » For that third one? 150. And yours is how much for the fifth one?

[57:46] » 350. There's the 150 plus $70 as well. turn it down.

[58:02] » But we we go back to y'all having two and y'all doing four and we pay extra

[58:08] after that. >> Right.

[58:11] » We looked really carefully. [snorts] Richard and I are both from the area.

[58:14] Richard is running this contract for himself for over 20 years.

[58:20] Um, so when we did our proposal, we just to look at just being, you know, we're

[58:25] at 1965 on the 300 pounds we talked about, which was cheaper than the

[58:29] current rates by 97 cent. So it's already save us, but we look at what the

[58:35] area needs the 15,000 franchise fee. Y'all spend more on that D and your

[58:40] budget for the year. I think Mr. Stewart could could verify that. We looked

[58:44] through the numbers. We look at what the community needs and there's really no

[58:48] facilities or anything for the citizens to have an easy convenient costefficient

[58:53] way to get rid of waste unless they drive to Blackard or they drive to Axon

[58:58] County or maybe they drive down to Chester Island.

[59:02] So um or maybe as far as Wax to their landfill. So we looked at we can in our

[59:08] facility as part of this bid will offer the citizens a way to get rid of their

[59:13] waste 300 lb free. They can come in they have a they have a couch they're paying

[59:19] for a garbage car they can bring that couch in. If they do that once in five

[59:22] years that's going to save them more than $39 rate would be in five years in

[59:27] one trip. They come twice in five years they're going to double their money.

[59:32] So we offer we look at what the community needs

[59:36] » and we believe the community needs the ability to get rid of a couch right now.

[59:41] You know what they do? >> I'm going to go stick out on a dirt road

[59:45] and throw on the side of the road. That's what they do right now.

[59:48] » Had several thrown out by the pond down the road from my house.

[59:51] » They just throw it out by >> that that 300 lb that's that's per

[59:56] customer per quarter. >> Customer per quarter. How much how much

[1:00:01] will that cost the taxpayers or the like for the can a month

[1:00:09] » before that? >> 1965

[1:00:11] » our rate per month. We gave two rates. One was 1915 and we open

[1:00:19] one time per month and then we still picked up and we'll

[1:00:24] keep that up to date instead of three months out. will be one month and we

[1:00:29] clean up everything that comes in that month. That was 1915. [clears throat]

[1:00:34] 1965 included the 300 pounds per customer

[1:00:40] four times a year. So that would be $7.80. Do the math on

[1:00:48] $78 for five years. It would be the five

[1:00:53] year option. It would be $39. and say if you brought the account one

[1:00:57] time in five years, you're gonna save that

[1:01:01] by by over you know what the current cost of $60 now you're going to save by

[1:01:07] $20. If you come twice in five years, you're going to double your savings.

[1:01:11] » James, [clears throat] what are we paying now for a can side of road? for

[1:01:15] Canside Road. It's uh $20

[1:01:21] » 16 >> 62 cent

[1:01:24] » per month. >> And that includes your um five items

[1:01:30] that you can pick up.

[1:01:38] » I I know these is a lot of questions, but I have looked at this four ways and

[1:01:42] upside down and it's just a lot of numbers to to comprehend at one time,

[1:01:47] » but we want what's best for the taxpayers, you know.

[1:01:51] » So, y'all charge $19 a month for the cart that we keep at our house

[1:01:59] » and y'all charge $19.15. >> We gave you two options.

[1:02:03] » Give you two options. >> Okay.

[1:02:05] » If you want the um 300 lb um free for every three months, it's uh

[1:02:13] 1965. Okay.

[1:02:16] » Which is that's still cheaper than what we're paying now, right James? Because

[1:02:20] we're paying 20 something >> 20 30 20 60 cheaper.

[1:02:23] » Yeah. >> And then our prices options, you know,

[1:02:27] kind of solve some problems have our prices.

[1:02:32] » Okay. >> We were thinking actually if we did the

[1:02:34] 300 lb per quarter, you may not need the special. You may still need it. It's

[1:02:39] still a good idea in some cases. >> It is to have it. But if you do have to

[1:02:43] add it, we give you four and no charge. >> Well, we kind of taking it by ear from

[1:02:49] month to month to see what we can afford and what we can't afford. So, and that's

[1:02:54] » they have an option to their own when they need to or whatever.

[1:03:00] » And that's five days a week if I mean it's just not on a Saturday. It's it's

[1:03:04] anytime they can go anytime. >> Anytime.

[1:03:07] » Okay. >> You guys come in.

[1:03:11] » Tell us your name. verify the count.

[1:03:18] » So we So what James did was

[1:03:23] » they looked at the numbers and that's what the numbers show. We just contend

[1:03:27] that you're spending that 15,000 on clean up the ditches probably and you

[1:03:32] know to get what the true value is just don't measure by price alone. You got to

[1:03:37] look at the whole picture. >> And the whole picture is the citizens

[1:03:41] themselves. >> Well, it is to me.

[1:03:45] » Well, it is to me, too. I mean, the citizens are what's the most important.

[1:03:48] That's the reason I'm sitting in this chair is for the citizens. It's not for

[1:03:51] myself. It's for the future. My grandbabies, stuff like that. That's

[1:03:56] what I think about is the future. >> And how many customer you say that you

[1:04:01] think county has right now? I you know I don't know I heard Dave say that number

[1:04:06] but it's always been over 5,000 whenever I was there.

[1:04:10] » When I was there too over 5,000 >> How long did you work there?

[1:04:16] » Uh about two years I worked at Cross. >> You worked there about 20 years didn't

[1:04:21] you? >> Yes sir. One one of the reason I asked

[1:04:24] about the number of customer because I noticed on your proposal a lot of this

[1:04:28] is predicated on being a minimum of 4,000 customers

[1:04:34] and so if we got five I mean that that covers that if it comes under that what

[1:04:39] you going to do then >> what you going to do if it comes under

[1:04:43] » I don't think that that's something >> but if we got if if if their numbers are

[1:04:48] correct 2300 2400 to give me an exact number.

[1:04:54] » It's It's still the same, right? But you just put on there a minimum because

[1:04:57] that's about what you thought there would would be.

[1:04:59] » I don't think we ever reach that low. Well, from my experience, we never were

[1:05:04] that low. We never customer.

[1:05:09] If we get that low and the bad, we're probably not worried about

[1:05:15] coming across the plane. [laughter]

[1:05:19] » Yeah. All right. >> All right.

[1:05:23] » Any more questions? >> You got any?

[1:05:25] » Yeah. >> We just like to get all that furniture

[1:05:28] that they carry me out here on my dirt roads. You know, I get a new set every

[1:05:33] week. [laughter]

[1:05:36] Sometimes I start to pick them up. They look mighty good.

[1:05:38] » Put them in your rental house. [laughter]

[1:05:42] » It was actually between 7,800 8,000 for subscription for Monday through Friday

[1:05:46] throughout Germany. >> [laughter]

[1:05:51] » Which one's going to give us a free tire pickup day? [laughter]

[1:05:58] » At least once a quarter. [clears throat] >> Okay.

[1:06:05] » Appreciate it. >> And we thank y'all. [clears throat]

[1:06:08] » Thank y'all for both of you. >> Yes, ma'am. Appcate.

[1:06:12] » We do the right no cost to the res but they do pick up that one. They can

[1:06:20] also bring it to our station and we don't charge their pick up. So there's

[1:06:25] the option. >> Okay.

[1:06:28] » But really I mean anyone participating in the five items per month that's

[1:06:34] » okay. >> All right. All right. Any more? [snorts]

[1:06:39] I'm >> good.

[1:06:43] Okay. All

[1:06:48] right. So, selection of an aviation consultant

[1:06:54] for planning services for the Wake County Airport.

[1:07:02] James, you explain that one for us. >> Yes. Let me get

[1:07:08] two. Here we go.

[1:07:16] So, uh, Mr. Chairman, we every year or I'm sorry, every five years, I believe

[1:07:20] it is, we have to go back out and and request proposals for qualifications for

[1:07:26] airport construction um for or I'm excuse me, for airport

[1:07:30] consulting service for planning and for um design and construction. And so, we

[1:07:36] we we sought uh qualifications for those. We received two um vendors that

[1:07:43] submitted um uh proposals. Uh one was Paso who which is our current

[1:07:50] u engineer. Um and the other was Kimley Horn. Um again we had a panel of three

[1:07:57] which was myself uh Chief D Meadows and Adam with the airport. And upon scoring

[1:08:05] those, we scored Pasro at a 99% final average uh weighted score and then

[1:08:12] Kimley Horn at 94.3. Mr. Chairman, these these uh engineering firms uh were very

[1:08:19] similar experienced in size and so forth. Um but one of the things that we

[1:08:24] have is we have current projects with pass that they've designed and we

[1:08:28] actually under contract with a construction on a runway and then also

[1:08:32] we're doing some obstruction removals through Passro. So with that said with

[1:08:37] staff recommends that we stay with Passro

[1:08:40] for planning services. >> Have we got anything that's going to be

[1:08:45] done this year out there? >> Yes, they're rehabbing. They they should

[1:08:50] start in September rehabing. Um >> I mean any new stuff that we

[1:08:55] » any new stuff? >> Yeah. [snorts]

[1:08:57] » Uh we're just uh just some obstructions is what we have. So

[1:09:01] » Okay. >> Um and I'm not sure exactly what's in

[1:09:04] the CIP that we have that start probably next year. So, we once we move our

[1:09:11] remove our obstructions, we'll be pretty much done with our safety projects and

[1:09:15] um and then we was going to look at maybe some um hangers or something.

[1:09:19] » What about what about re resurfacing? >> Uh the main runway is getting the

[1:09:25] lighting and the um uh runway is being resurfaced. It starts in September.

[1:09:30] » Okay. >> It's already been [clears throat]

[1:09:32] awarded which it just going to start September.

[1:09:35] » And that's Pacero. That's that's been awarded to

[1:09:38] » they're they're the the engineers. >> All right.

[1:09:43] » Okay. >> Anybody anything else? Y'all got any

[1:09:47] question? >> All right. Move it over.

[1:09:52] All right. F. Selection of an aviation consultant for design and construction

[1:09:58] services for the Wake County Airport. >> Going to be the same thing,

[1:10:04] » Mr. Chair. This is the same except for this is for design and construction. Um

[1:10:09] and same as the previous item and um um again three the same three um

[1:10:18] evaluators evaluate evaluated the proposals which were from Pasro and

[1:10:23] Kimley Horn and Pasro scored out a 99 final average weighted score and Kimley

[1:10:30] Horn at 92.6 six final average weighted score recommended we go with um with

[1:10:36] pass um and this is Mr. Chairman, the only

[1:10:42] difference between these two proposals is one sentence in the second par the

[1:10:46] last sentence and the second paragraph you have to change to say design and

[1:10:49] construction >> design

[1:10:51] » and the first one has to be planning but do makes you do two separate proposals

[1:10:56] two sets. >> Okay.

[1:11:01] » All right. Any any more discussion on it? Move it over.

[1:11:06] » All right. Let's go to Jeep where county vehicle maintenance public

[1:11:13] works building maintenance and purchase on the Nova solution software. Mr.

[1:11:19] Carlos, will you come up and tell us what that is?

[1:11:29] » Hello.

[1:11:32] » Hi again. [clears throat] Um

[1:11:36] First of all, thank commissioners chairman. I'd like to thank Carlos and

[1:11:41] his team uh for going the extra mile and trying to get us something together that

[1:11:48] will work the three departments under one umbrella and he's come up and with

[1:11:53] this Nova Solutions and myself, Mr. Carlos, uh Mr. Mike, Heather, and

[1:12:01] another group from my team and Mr. Matt from building maintenance has sat

[1:12:05] through several of these uh conferences and teleworking and them showing us how

[1:12:11] this works. Uh and then then Carlos to set through a couple of demonstrations

[1:12:16] and more my teams. This software if you want uh the county manager or I want to

[1:12:22] come up with a capital improvement plan for later on

[1:12:28] this way right here, this package right here can get you building maintenance.

[1:12:33] uh vehicle maintenance and public works. You can get all of those numbers almost

[1:12:39] at the uh tip of your fingers. And what this program does, it covers all three.

[1:12:47] It's going to have a spot for vehicle maintenance where when it comes in, that

[1:12:51] vehicle comes in, we can bar it have a barcode on it. We can scan

[1:12:57] that vehicle and tell us when it's due for service and what it needs. Also,

[1:13:02] this what this does is keeps the inventory of our parks up and going at

[1:13:09] any time, any time, and at all times. And also for build maintenance when we

[1:13:14] get ready to send out requisitions and builds, this is there. Um, this program

[1:13:21] is great for build maintenance and public works for Mike and them. We've

[1:13:26] all looked at it and it's just a great deal. The flexibility of it is for

[1:13:31] Carlos, they've got one umbrella. They don't have to take care of three

[1:13:36] different ones. They've got one product that covers all three of us. And it's

[1:13:42] we've looked at it. I think it's the best thing that we've got out there to

[1:13:46] help us because when the county manager needs a capital improvement plan, we can

[1:13:51] get it to him in just a matter of moments with the numbers and data that's

[1:13:55] there for him. >> In all three [clears throat] sections,

[1:13:58] » sir, >> in all three sections.

[1:14:00] » In all three sections for building maintenance, public works, and uh fleet.

[1:14:06] So, I mean, it does all of this right here. And it can be since it's the

[1:14:10] capital improvement plan, it can be paid for out of cost.

[1:14:16] So one thing we're looking at too with this solution is that we can then once

[1:14:20] we get the solution up and running we can get a number of years say three

[1:14:24] years of data into the system and then we can pull and say we can then project

[1:14:30] what the cost would be also over a five period and we can tell you know AC units

[1:14:36] need to be replaced and at what point in time they're starting to fail what point

[1:14:40] in time they're starting to get inefficient paying cost. So there's a

[1:14:45] number of things. It's not just for vehicles. It's for drainage for roads

[1:14:51] and determining if you're building one. You can work on project

[1:14:56] six quarterly. You can then enter into the system that it's been completed.

[1:15:01] It'll show that it's green and it'll show what the next stage of even

[1:15:06] building a road map would be. So today we don't have that kind of stuff. We're

[1:15:10] just kind of for public works. They're collecting ticketing.

[1:15:15] And so they're just getting what the what the president

[1:15:20] the what they doing is basically getting a

[1:15:23] complaint. Yeah. When it when it comes in, Miss Heather takes that information,

[1:15:28] puts it, writes it down. Again, she answers just the complaint itself. As

[1:15:33] far as billing out any pipe, milling, anything, they have no way of doing that

[1:15:38] right now. And with this uh software equipment, we will be able to go back

[1:15:45] and look at what did, let's just say, Kirkland Street, what did it cost us

[1:15:49] over the last three years? What did such and such street cost us? What repairs we

[1:15:54] done on that street? And the same way for our buildings. I think we have over

[1:16:00] 40 buildings in the county. Matt can put all of the data in there and we can see

[1:16:05] which building costing us the most money, where we need to spend our money

[1:16:09] at and what upgrades we need to and what we've done in the past. And this is just

[1:16:16] one system that does all three. And again, Carlos, I hate to say it again,

[1:16:21] Carlos has done a great job with this. Him and his team has worked through the

[1:16:26] bugs and found something that'll take care of three departments under one. And

[1:16:31] this can also be expanded to other departments as well. So the product is

[1:16:35] not just limited to these three. And if we could add additional departments onto

[1:16:40] it, it's at no cost. >> Oh, so it stays the same.

[1:16:44] » Stays the same. >> Stays the same.

[1:16:46] » That would have been excellent having it when the AC units went out of sheriff's

[1:16:50] department. [clears throat] What? Two years ago, I think it was

[1:16:54] replacing five units. [clears throat] >> Take time. So if we if we don't start

[1:17:00] now doing the collection of dat

[1:17:05] then at some point in time when we do start this product we're we're going to

[1:17:09] still have to start gathering and delay before we can really generate reports

[1:17:14] that give us an analysis of when stuff is needing to be replaced or or when it

[1:17:20] when it's starting to fail and if we're paying too much for it to repair it.

[1:17:25] It's just going to take time. So if we don't start now then we do start it and

[1:17:29] still take time to collect the data. >> Okay.

[1:17:32] » So who who's going to be responsible for inputting all the initial data

[1:17:37] » right now? They they have they have some spreadsheets that they have. So some of

[1:17:42] that information they're going to import it off of spreadsheets and put it into

[1:17:45] there. And then once they start getting u the the end user will also when they

[1:17:52] go and schedule like for a vehicle being repaired they'll go in and schedule

[1:17:56] that. But it's going to be set up initially through through vehicle

[1:18:01] maintenance through building as they get stuff and they start putting into the

[1:18:04] system. That's when the data entry will come into play

[1:18:07] » because I know we've got I mean you're talking about all the things that we've

[1:18:11] got and all the buildings all the vehicles. It's going to take a while.

[1:18:16] » There's a there's an a long list of assets that we'll have on that list and

[1:18:21] then a long list of um manufacturers required maintenance that'll be in that

[1:18:27] list and check boxes and everything. So, it just takes a a long time to have to

[1:18:33] input all that data. even if you've got, you know, 10 20% of it on a spreadsheet,

[1:18:39] I' I'd be willing to say that we don't have all the air conditioning units

[1:18:43] listed on a spreadsheet and their manufacturers information and stuff

[1:18:47] [clears throat] like that. And so, you know, that's a and I was just kind of

[1:18:51] wondering, you know, I mean, and I'm all about some asset management to um I

[1:18:55] think it's it's good to u to consider the asset management of our of all, you

[1:19:02] know, mechanical assets of the county, but I just know that it's it's going to

[1:19:08] take somebody's time to to be able to put all that information in. Um, you

[1:19:13] know, once you get it all in, maintaining it and and adding to it is

[1:19:17] is easy. You just do it every time you do it. You take one piece out, put

[1:19:21] another piece in. But initially, I mean, you're probably looking 20,000 pieces of

[1:19:27] of 20,000 assets, if not more, that we have here in the county when you include

[1:19:32] all those things. And so, um, anyways, that would just be my concern when we're

[1:19:37] doing anything like this. >> How far would you back up on getting

[1:19:41] that information? How many years? You know what I'm saying?

[1:19:44] » Well, I mean, if we've got it on site, it's

[1:19:46] » air conditioned and stuff like that. >> What I would do,

[1:19:50] never had anything in place before I would start collecting the data, you

[1:19:54] know, >> and not go back into any years because

[1:19:59] of the fact that you're going to have not everything that you need to put into

[1:20:02] a form that they do. So, you may start entering um history, past history,

[1:20:08] stuff. Yeah. that the forms may need additional information. You're not going

[1:20:12] to have that information. So, if we start forward today and say we got to

[1:20:17] get the software in today, we'd start from today and move forward.

[1:20:21] » Yeah. >> I know we just spent a lot of money on

[1:20:24] air conditioning >> because [laughter]

[1:20:26] some of the departments just don't have any data to put it. So if we started say

[1:20:32] if it was if we was lucky enough to get it approved and we got software in say

[1:20:38] Monday [snorts] started starting Monday and Tuesday start putting in all what

[1:20:42] happens then and then we've got a starting point

[1:20:45] » because it's going to be it's going to be hard to go back say to vehicle

[1:20:50] maintenance where we have some records but some departments don't have anything

[1:20:54] to go back on. So that would give you an unbalanced untrue number when you got

[1:20:59] ready to do a capital improvement plan. But if you had a starting point where

[1:21:04] everybody started off at ground zero, then you would have a starting point.

[1:21:10] » But say like for air conditioners, I know we got it out there to we got some

[1:21:13] wreck department air conditioners that's replaced. We probably if we've got two

[1:21:17] of them replaced and we'd put those on there, but probably not the other ones.

[1:21:22] We might list them as an asset, but we wouldn't have any other information

[1:21:24] other than a serial number and an install date. Whereas with the new ones,

[1:21:28] we'd have serial number, install date, and then projected maintenance moving

[1:21:32] forward. >> Yes, correct. Right.

[1:21:33] » So, so then once they did the say that we replace three units out there, there

[1:21:39] was still a fourth unit there that was out of the legacy system that's

[1:21:44] installed. So, at some point when it when it goes for repair, then we would

[1:21:49] enter the data at that point, right? said, "Okay, we need serial number. We

[1:21:52] need this." We did a repair on a piece that cost $20,000.

[1:21:57] » What What do we have now? >> Nothing.

[1:22:00] » Nothing. >> We have We have one application at

[1:22:04] public works and they're just they're only collecting

[1:22:09] ticketing information pretty much. They're just what

[1:22:12] » they really only thing they're get data on is complaints.

[1:22:16] » Complaints. >> That's the only data they're collecting.

[1:22:18] » And how much they charge for that? just complaints.

[1:22:20] » So it's uh 20 2500 >> a month

[1:22:24] » a year >> a year annual

[1:22:25] » annual. >> So if I if I remember correctly um I

[1:22:30] believe whenever Michael Karen was in this spot he had brought up one asset

[1:22:34] management program and it was pretty excessive on the on the cost and so we

[1:22:39] were all like yeah we don't think we want that. Um, and then, um, I believe

[1:22:44] he brought he he talked about another asset management program. Um, this one

[1:22:50] seems that you guys are talking about seems like it's got a lot more bells and

[1:22:54] whistles attached to it. And, um, I'm not sure how that second one compares in

[1:23:00] price, but this one does seem like it has some bells and whistles.

[1:23:03] » The one the other program that uh, Mr. Karen had brought in. It was kind of um

[1:23:10] trying to it's kind of it was a bare program. If we were to add in all of the

[1:23:16] information that we have right now at vehicle maintenance into that system, it

[1:23:22] would cost us about 35 to $40,000 to upload all the information that we

[1:23:27] already have as far as going back on the records we have. And it's not uh myself

[1:23:34] and Mr. Carlos has looked at that program. It's not user friendly. It's

[1:23:38] just kind of it's a older system that has been built and this just services so

[1:23:45] much more of our needs. Uh and it's so easy to use that it can benefit the

[1:23:51] sheriff's department got a vehicle I say to be serviced or the fire department.

[1:23:55] They go online, fill it out. It comes to my office and when it comes to my

[1:24:01] office, my mechanics will pull it up on a iPad or whatever, they know. There's

[1:24:07] nobody there's nobody [clears throat] writing it down on a whiteboard like

[1:24:10] we're doing now. And it goes straight to from one source to the other source. And

[1:24:15] that's the great part of that. >> And it's half price compared to

[1:24:21] » the other company. >> So, so that $2,500 charge a year will go

[1:24:25] away if we do this, right? >> Yes. Yes. And um so this this will be um

[1:24:32] I think it's 19,000 for the initial setup that includes training and

[1:24:38] everything that that the three departments will receive to know how to

[1:24:42] exactly enter in run reports and and do all that they need.

[1:24:47] » 17 >> 1744

[1:24:49] » and then the the next annual cost be >> 11445.

[1:24:57] Can that be out of splot too, James? Or that can't come out.

[1:25:00] » The original um that's what proposed to buy the u the original program out of

[1:25:04] the um it splast. I spoke with Carlos and that he has money that'll be in

[1:25:09] there. >> Okay.

[1:25:11] » And so you have the money in the budget already

[1:25:13] » renewals. They can divide that up between the department.

[1:25:15] » Between the departments. >> Okay.

[1:25:18] » Sounds like a winner to me. >> I'd just like to say this, Mr. Chairman.

[1:25:21] I appreciate everything that Carlos and uh Joe are doing and at the end of the

[1:25:27] day we got to start somewhere. We can keep kicking the can down the road and

[1:25:32] saying, "Okay, we'll wait." But it's something that we know we need to do and

[1:25:37] it's just a matter of us, you know, having the fortitude to just go do it.

[1:25:40] And I think it's time, you know, we give these departments and stuff the

[1:25:45] equipment and the tools they need to function efficiently.

[1:25:50] I'll ditto that comment. >> Totally agree.

[1:25:55] » All right. Any more? >> Thank y'all. Anybody else?

[1:25:58] » All right. Thank y'all.

[1:26:03] » All right. Next one, please. >> Purchase Office equipment for E91.

[1:26:11] » Yep. Mr. Mr. Chairman, Miss Hendris presented this to uh the board during

[1:26:15] their budget um concept and um and uh it was to purchase uh desk risers or um

[1:26:25] riser tables for all their workstations where they can stand enter information

[1:26:30] when they get a call or they can sit, you know, they're they're basically at

[1:26:33] that workstation for 12-hour um shifts. And then um also it's to provide for

[1:26:41] some chairs um for the individuals um operators. And then the um last part is

[1:26:49] a basically is some gym wellness equipment where they can slide

[1:26:53] underneath their desk, you know, like little pedals or little trick they can

[1:26:57] move their feet and keep blood flowing in their legs. Um the total cost on the

[1:27:02] desk risers is $13,622.35.

[1:27:08] on your chairs is $9,7946 and then on the equipment it's $1,366

[1:27:17] for a total of $24,453.7

[1:27:21] and I think we can pay for that out of the 22 for public safety.

[1:27:27] » I got one question Mr. County manager on the 247 dispatch rated argon

[1:27:36] ergonomic. How you say that word? >> Agonomic.

[1:27:39] » There you go. >> Is that 16 chairs?

[1:27:43] » No, it's six chairs. >> Six. All right. Because this says 16.

[1:27:49] [laughter] >> Cuz I was wondering why in the world do

[1:27:51] we need 16 checkers? >> That wasn't Debbie. That was James.

[1:27:55] » No, it says quantity needle 16 in my book. So that's why I put 16.

[1:28:01] » They probably need 16, but we just can't afford it right now.

[1:28:04] » And I know you mentioned before during our budget um meetings that those those

[1:28:10] chairs are specifically designed for sitting in for 24 hours or or or long

[1:28:16] periods of time. I mean, I know sitting at my desk and I don't I've just got a,

[1:28:21] you know, $100 chair, it hurts my back just sitting there for a couple hours

[1:28:25] while I'm at my computer. And uh this one is is pretty comfortable, but I

[1:28:30] imagine if I sat here for 12 hours, I would um my butt fall asleep [laughter]

[1:28:35] and so get up, you know, they're extended periods.

[1:28:40] Sometimes the quality is is so high that they can't even get up and

[1:28:45] go eat, much less go to the bathroom. They're sitting in that uncomfortable

[1:28:48] chair. Their consoles right now do not allow them to stand up at all. So,

[1:28:53] they're just stuck in that position. It's causing, you know, some physical

[1:28:57] symptoms in their bodies. And I know we have to become concerned about

[1:29:01] operations, but also we have to be concerned about employees. And I've been

[1:29:05] there 37 years and we've never had anything like that at all. And over

[1:29:09] time, seen the effect it could have, you know, and it's increased sick leave,

[1:29:14] working comp claims, and all this is going to be a positive for the county

[1:29:18] not to have those. And the more we look out for our employees, the more they're

[1:29:22] going to when they sit down, they're going to be more alert. Their bodies

[1:29:25] aren't going to hurt. They're not going to answer the phone like, you know,

[1:29:28] they're in pain. Sometimes you can hear it in the voices when your body's

[1:29:31] speaking to you. And um, you know, their emotional state sometimes is just their

[1:29:37] stress levels are at the roof. time they get there to the time they leave, every

[1:29:41] call has a different emotion >> and you know that determines that, you

[1:29:45] know, your body tightens up. Your mind, you know, tightens up to those calls and

[1:29:50] when you're sitting will come forward. Maybe you can stand up for just a minute

[1:29:53] as an outlet or maybe you took that call or someone has died and you need to go

[1:29:58] and, you know, maybe work on a treadmill for just a minute or just have an outlet

[1:30:02] for that stress. So that's what we're trying to be concerned with is

[1:30:06] operations, but I think they'll flow a lot better the healthier our employees

[1:30:10] are, >> right?

[1:30:11] » The more that we can care about them and show them we care about them by giving

[1:30:15] them equipment to work with. >> Well, I I don't know what the rest of

[1:30:19] the county knows, but I know that the 911 call center has got to be one of the

[1:30:23] most stressful jobs. >> Absolutely. out there because you know

[1:30:27] whereas you got your your sheriff or your fire department people have the

[1:30:32] ability to go out and physically you know aid the person that's in that

[1:30:37] that's in distress or what have you and get some resolution to it and not saying

[1:30:41] their jobs aren't stressful because I can I can't even imagine but whenever

[1:30:45] you're sitting there listening to a telephone call and somebody's screaming

[1:30:49] somebody's dying somebody's it's it's in it's just um unbelievable the kind of

[1:30:55] things. And so if all we've got to do is spend $24,000

[1:31:00] to give give you and your employees some some relief and some assistance, you

[1:31:05] know, I think it's a small price for the county to pay to give um just a small

[1:31:10] amount of relief and also just to show, hey, you know, we we know you're out

[1:31:14] there >> and we appreciate you. Um you know, if

[1:31:17] you've ever called 911, I have before. Um it's it's always professional. It's

[1:31:23] always helpful. It's always, you know, on point and um they know what they're

[1:31:29] doing and so if I can, you know, vote in favor of doing this, then then that's I

[1:31:35] mean, I'm not if, but when I vote in favor of doing this,

[1:31:38] » anything that we do for them to show the appreciation, you know, this would be a

[1:31:41] big thing just to be able to do those small things with a comfortable chair,

[1:31:45] standing up at your desk, being able to relieve a little stress with a piece of

[1:31:49] equipment that fits right your desk. Those are just small things, but it's

[1:31:53] big. >> It is. [clears throat]

[1:31:55] » And also, I would like to bring up, I know most of the commission probably

[1:31:58] already knows it, but y'all cover Wear County and Way Cross. The city of Way

[1:32:03] Cross. >> Yes.

[1:32:04] » So, y'all answer all 911 calls inside Wear County, which includes the city.

[1:32:09] » Yes. >> And there's how many I think there's

[1:32:12] what 18,000 people that live in the city.

[1:32:17] » 18 16 >> 14 16,000.

[1:32:20] It's a lot. Kwaging has definitely increased a lot and it's taken it takes

[1:32:24] a toll on them. But, you know, we we're well trained. We try to keep training.

[1:32:29] » I know when I when I retired >> from the city,

[1:32:33] » right? >> And it's been I'm in my 11th year after

[1:32:35] retirement. >> We were answering in the city 4,000

[1:32:39] calls a month. >> So, we're very proud of the job we do.

[1:32:42] We're proud of to serve the community, keep our officers safe, you know, do the

[1:32:47] best we can do. That always works well for people to know that they call us and

[1:32:51] the job's going to get done and we're going to be there for them. We're going

[1:32:53] to be compassionate for them. But sometimes you don't feel that

[1:32:56] compassion. You your body's hurting. You don't have that stress level. Maybe you

[1:33:01] sat there for close to your 12 hour shift and haven't been able to get up.

[1:33:04] And you know, it's just those things that this would really really help.

[1:33:09] » And if I'm not mistaken, y'all also monitor state patrol, DNR, and if they

[1:33:14] ever get in a situation, we send one of our units to them. We send records to

[1:33:19] them. We handle their record calls. We handle air evac. Um just all the things

[1:33:24] that go with it. Any kind of resource that goes to a wreck or a fire comes

[1:33:28] everything comes from us. So it's a it's a job. We appreciate the job that we do

[1:33:34] and we appreciate you appreciate us. >> Absolutely. 100%. We appreciate y'all.

[1:33:39] Thank you. >> So one more thing and it has nothing to

[1:33:41] do with with what's on here and I think I may have asked a question during the

[1:33:44] budget um meetings that we had. Um, and this wouldn't necessarily be for just

[1:33:49] 911, but for 911, fire, uh, EMS. Is it is is there a specific um, like a

[1:33:57] counseling service? Because I know that's got to be an extremely stressful

[1:34:00] job. You get on a position where you've lost someone, someone died during your

[1:34:04] call, someone died while the EMS is responding or or, you know, the fire

[1:34:09] took someone's life, those kind of things, or or it was just a very high

[1:34:13] stress situation. Is there like a an on call counseling center that our that our

[1:34:19] staff can go to uh to be able to you know I know for me if I've got a

[1:34:24] stressful situation I have to talk it out you know I have to talk to somebody

[1:34:28] talk about it and it's like I always tell my wife it's kind of like wading up

[1:34:32] a piece of paper and then unwading it and then wading it up again. And you

[1:34:36] know when I was a kid I used to take that piece of paper and eventually that

[1:34:38] piece of paper wound up being real soft. So, you know, initially I wouldn't want

[1:34:43] to blow my nose with with that, but after a while I could wad it up enough

[1:34:47] times that it'd be soft and pliable. I can blow my nose and throw it away. And

[1:34:52] so, I think having to be a, you know, being able to talk to somebody about

[1:34:55] something is like wading up a piece of paper. And so, and I I I fully believe

[1:35:00] in counseling and and having a trusted source to be able to talk to. And and so

[1:35:06] I I see that you're up here got a maybe a comment about something that we got.

[1:35:10] Yes, Commissioner. So, there is a statewide program for all first

[1:35:14] responders that provide counselors and any kind of mental health help and the

[1:35:22] county actually puts into that and it's an anonymous um it's an anonymous call

[1:35:29] and they work directly with our HR department. Um they just don't share

[1:35:34] specifics on it, right? But yes, we're >> but we take advantage of it. our

[1:35:38] officers and our [clears throat] medical specialists and our 911 center. We we

[1:35:43] all take >> you call. We always we have a counseling

[1:35:45] sheet that we fill out. We ask them, "Do you want counsel?" Sometimes they don't.

[1:35:49] You know, sometimes they learn to let things roll and eventually they'll take

[1:35:52] it, right? >> But we do have that sheet. We offer them

[1:35:55] after every tragedy call that there is. And um if they do, then county does

[1:36:00] offer different types of counsel. Good. And we have used it in the past. Plus,

[1:36:05] we also, you know, department, you know, we we allow each other to vent and we'll

[1:36:10] take them back in and talk to them and make sure they're okay. And after a big

[1:36:14] ordeal, I know a lot of times the agencies will get together, you know,

[1:36:18] just kind of talk it out and see what can you do better next time or what can

[1:36:22] we do for you and there's still the PTSD programs in place now. So, there's

[1:36:27] several outlets the county's offered and so it's a good thing that

[1:36:33] good good deal good deal. >> Mr. Chairman, I just like to stay tuned

[1:36:37] and listen to everything. And I concur with everything everyone has said. And

[1:36:42] if you haven't visited 911, I would encourage all the commission if you get

[1:36:46] a chance, go out there and just see sometime just sit and watch what they're

[1:36:49] doing >> and also uh what they're up against. And

[1:36:53] I was talking with uh Debbie about the uh chairs and I know during the like I

[1:36:58] said the budget hearing and I think that's very important that they have

[1:37:02] that uh not luxury but that capability to be

[1:37:06] able to stand up sometime and still work >> you know and a lot of even a lot of

[1:37:10] office settings are going to that now where instead of just sitting down they

[1:37:13] got where it's got the uh flexibility where that computer stand or whatever

[1:37:19] will stand up and you can stand up there and even maybe have a little thing where

[1:37:23] you and walk on it, you know. So, I I think it's good to

[1:37:26] » try all that out. >> Yeah.

[1:37:28] » What you got to see is movie, >> right? [laughter]

[1:37:31] But, uh, and that counseling I think is very very important. Uh, you know, last

[1:37:36] thing I want to say, when I work at the railroad, I had an unfortunate incident.

[1:37:41] I was an engineer out there and where I had a fatality where a lady walked out

[1:37:45] in front of me on the train. So, I know how that feels. I mean it's just

[1:37:49] something [snorts] like John was saying you know you keep processing talk

[1:37:53] somebody whatever and uh so I'm pretty sure sitting there every day and you

[1:37:58] encounter various different things so >> I think it's a good thing you be but

[1:38:04] there seems to be sometimes it's worse than others but yeah you get the good

[1:38:07] calls you get the bad calls but the bad ones seem to last

[1:38:11] » stick with you. Well, we definitely appreciate you and your team and what

[1:38:16] y'all do. >> Thank you.

[1:38:17] » And I definitely appreciate the years of service I did because y'all always have

[1:38:20] back up there for me. >> We always will do our best to

[1:38:25] » Yes, ma'am. >> Well, y'all are great. Y'all do a great

[1:38:27] job. >> Thank you. Thank you.

[1:38:30] » Appreciate the job. >> Yes, we do.

[1:38:33] » Move it over. >> I say all right.

[1:38:37] » Move it over. >> Any more car?

[1:38:41] » Is that it? All right. Recreation purchase and install three 20 ton havoc

[1:38:48] units. The recreation fix. >> Got any

[1:38:54] questions on that? >> Mr. Chairman, um we receive quotes to uh

[1:39:02] purchase um AC units at recreation and the gym.

[1:39:06] We have currently there's two units that are out. Um [clears throat]

[1:39:10] and the I think the gym has a total of three units. Um currently those units

[1:39:15] are 15 ton AON units. Um we we received two quotes for those. The first quote

[1:39:22] was from College Sheet Metal Works for $141,754.

[1:39:27] That was to install one AON unit. Um they said we had to go back with 15 ton

[1:39:34] AON unit. Um, John's Heating and Air Incorporated. Um, also recommended to go

[1:39:40] back with a 15 ton AON unit for $138,651.

[1:39:46] Um, our building maintenance department contacted Wind Supply and Wind Supply

[1:39:52] said no, they make a unit that will fit and go right back in the same place as

[1:39:57] the AON unit. And um so they gave us a price to purchase three 20tonon captain

[1:40:04] outside units um for $147,746.33

[1:40:11] um which is approximately 48 thou or $48,85646

[1:40:18] per unit um plus shipling handling handling of $1,176.94.

[1:40:25] We also then turned around and got a quote from Wicker Heating Air to install

[1:40:30] the three units and they will install them at $3,500 each for a total of

[1:40:35] 10,500. So for um to purchase and install

[1:40:42] uh three units, three 20 ton units, uh the total cost will be $158,246.33.

[1:40:51] And we recommend that we go with that and with wind supply and purchase the

[1:40:56] three units and then also um go with Whitaker Heat and Air to install those.

[1:41:02] The only thing this does not include is the cost of a crane to set them on top

[1:41:05] of the building. Talk the building to maintenance and they said that would be

[1:41:08] probably less than that would be less than $5,000 to

[1:41:12] » have a crane come set them. >> We can borrow the railroads crank.

[1:41:18] » So we >> there's a guy there's a few people

[1:41:20] around here that does that. So >> So you're looking at 14774633

[1:41:25] plus the 10,500. Right. >> Right. So it be probably another five

[1:41:30] grand for the crane [clears throat] for a crane. So

[1:41:35] » but because we're going with that captive air,

[1:41:39] we're getting them for 48,000 a piece plus the shipping charges versus one

[1:41:45] unit at $141,000, >> right?

[1:41:48] » Or $138,000. >> Yes, sir.

[1:41:51] » So >> and these would definitely work with

[1:41:54] what we have out there now. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. a uh wind supply

[1:41:57] center got [clears throat] out to come and look and and um and to get us

[1:42:02] exactly what we needed to swap out >> and they're bigger units

[1:42:05] » and they're 20 ton. They're five tons bigger,

[1:42:07] » right? Yeah. And this >> How long has them been out there now?

[1:42:11] » Since they built the building since they built this.

[1:42:14] » Yeah. And that's why we recommend they go ahead and replace all three because

[1:42:17] we know the third one's coming. >> The third third ones. Yeah.

[1:42:20] » Also, they give us a $2,000 discount per unit if we buy all three. And we've done

[1:42:25] enough on the on one of these.

[1:42:31] » What about the ones at the sheriff's department? Do we ever replace them?

[1:42:34] » I don't know what they're all doing. I'm sure they have done some, but I'm not

[1:42:37] sure. >> This will come out of splot money.

[1:42:40] » Yes, sir. >> 22.

[1:42:42] » It come out of the 14 splots. >> 14 splots. Okay.

[1:42:46] » For buildings. >> And I think what we're saying is these

[1:42:48] units about what 22 23 years old. >> Uh probably so. And yeah, and I think we

[1:42:53] probably lost some revenue this summer, you know, trying to get these units

[1:42:57] replaced because we couldn't rent the gym out. So

[1:42:59] » yeah. >> Well, you know, air condition don't ever

[1:43:01] go out till it's 110°. [laughter] >> Now that

[1:43:07] 147,000 does that include the discount for buying all three scrap?

[1:43:11] » It does. >> Yeah. Okay, sir.

[1:43:13] » Who's going to get the scrap? >> Yes, scrap.

[1:43:15] » They going to take the scrap with us. >> No, they're not.

[1:43:18] » We keep the scrap. >> They're taking the scrap with us. Oh,

[1:43:21] we're keeping the scrap. >> Yeah.

[1:43:23] » Where we going to put it? >> Huh?

[1:43:25] » Where we going to put it? >> We're going to put it in the scrap pile

[1:43:28] and then we're going to surplus it and car it to the

[1:43:30] » There you go. >> To the recycle metal in them thing.

[1:43:34] » Well, we might put it on the building great building and put it on.

[1:43:38] » It just be it just be a roof ornament because they don't work.

[1:43:42] » That one does. >> Yeah, probably won't do. [snorts]

[1:43:44] » It probably won't for a little while. >> So, Jane, what we talking about is

[1:43:48] really aboutund and uh >> what? 160

[1:43:52] » 161 um >> 161

[1:43:55] » depending on what the crane cost I guess 163

[1:44:00] » um 246 33

[1:44:02] » that's including the crane. >> Yes, sir.

[1:44:05] » Okay. >> Yes, sir. Yeah, my five look like a

[1:44:08] three. >> Okay. Move it over.

[1:44:11] » Move it over. >> Move it over.

[1:44:13] » Okay.

[1:44:16] Select resurfacing project for 2027 LIG applications.

[1:44:24] » This is something I'm rolling over every time till I get

[1:44:26] » new roads, >> I get some projects. And just keep in

[1:44:29] mind is is the longer we take is uh the earlier we can get this done and get our

[1:44:35] application submitted, we can get D to submit that they'll submit the funds and

[1:44:39] then we can um and draw interest off that until they go for bid and and

[1:44:44] construction. >> [clears throat]

[1:44:46] » Okay. >> Y'all got any road you want?

[1:44:48] » I done give him my list. I got a long list.

[1:44:50] » I got I got about six on my list. >> So, I had mentioned

[1:44:56] a city road. Did you >> I I contacted the city manager and asked

[1:45:03] him, you know, whether any work uh uh roads, the two roads there any um

[1:45:09] schedule uh work or infrastructure improvement. and he said that they're in

[1:45:14] the process of re-evaluating their roads. They don't know when when they're

[1:45:18] starting to work. So, they're re reclassifying their their

[1:45:23] work their roads. So, they couldn't tell me if they would start, you know, a

[1:45:27] year, two years or or what. And I just don't want to go and resurface the road

[1:45:30] and then they come back six months and cut it.

[1:45:32] » Cut it. Right. Exactly. >> Okay. So,

[1:45:35] » that's I'll find another road. >> Yeah.

[1:45:38] » Roads. >> 1 million. Three out

[1:45:40] » 344. Yeah, >> that's what we got.

[1:45:43] » We can see >> I think we kind of split it up about

[1:45:46] » about two miles. >> About two miles each

[1:45:48] » and it's not relegated to just kind of road. I mean, if you wanted to city road

[1:45:53] just like John was talking about, you know, he had a road and I have a couple,

[1:45:58] you know, that >> Yeah. I just would like for him to give

[1:46:00] me a I mean, you know, if we going to work in the city, for him to give me a a

[1:46:05] definite yes or no. We are going to do infrastructure. We're not going to do I

[1:46:08] mean I understand we can't help that you know we go and we resurface the road and

[1:46:13] the uh the roller dudatory roll roller causes the line to bust you

[1:46:20] » can't help that but >> the road

[1:46:23] » that's where we're at. So, okay. This is just resurfacing now. It's not

[1:46:28] » right. Resurfing. >> Resurf. Okay. Any more discussion on?

[1:46:33] » No. >> So, y'all got your list and turn them

[1:46:38] in. >> Yeah. We're going to get with Jame.

[1:46:40] » Okay. >> Turn them in. If not, I mean, I'll be

[1:46:42] glad to make a list. >> Okay. Well, I know I know one thing I'll

[1:46:45] bring up now, the railroad has been doing a great job on redoing a lot of

[1:46:49] these crossing roads >> because they've redone them coming down

[1:46:53] US1, just about every one of them. >> Okay.

[1:46:57] » So, we need to get our roads done because they've got the railroad already

[1:47:02] done, you know, on both sides of the track. So, if we can meet what the

[1:47:06] railroads done, it'll be smooth all the way.

[1:47:08] » Yeah. >> ABC's one that needs to be done and it's

[1:47:12] cringing up, but I don't know. I'll have to get through the pro well have an

[1:47:16] engineer to go through whatever process we got to do to do that because I

[1:47:19] believe it's on CSX right away. >> It is all right.

[1:47:22] » That's the reason I got them little wood things right there. Bona.

[1:47:25] » Mhm. >> Any comments,

[1:47:29] » sir? >> You got any comments?

[1:47:31] » Um

[1:47:34] yeah, >> go ahead.

[1:47:41] Okay. Commission, you got any comment? >> Motion.

[1:47:45] » Yes, sir. I got I got one. Let me write this out real quick. Um

[1:47:50] » Okay, go ahead. >> I received a complaint request, whatever

[1:47:55] you want to call it, uh to um pull some ditches over on uh

[1:48:03] uh Driger and Pean. It's my road, but I didn't make the

[1:48:08] complaint, so I'm just >> sure.

[1:48:11] » I'm just I'm just putting it in there. [laughter] I told I told the guy that I

[1:48:15] would put it in there, and I said, "Well, I'll put it in there." But

[1:48:18] » I like the way you put that jar. You didn't file a complaint that you told

[1:48:22] somebody to file. [laughter] I got pretty snitch.

[1:48:26] » Hey, well, listen. My house is far enough off dirt road. It don't It don't

[1:48:29] [laughter] mess with them. >> It It was Brian. I can tell you Brian's

[1:48:32] last name, baby. >> I don't like that. He's on recover. So

[1:48:37] he >> he's on recover. That's right.

[1:48:39] [laughter] >> Okay.

[1:48:42] » Okay. >> Is that all?

[1:48:47] » That's it, sir. >> Okay. I hear a motion to adjourn.

[1:48:50] » So move. >> Second.

[1:48:51] » Got a motion and a second to adjourn. All in favor?

[1:48:56] » We take

[1:48:59] about 10 minutes. Come back. >> Whatever y'all need.

[1:49:03] » Is that you got Is that enough? 10 minutes.

[1:49:07] » We can use what he's got. Well, no. You know what? I do need to pull one off.

[1:49:11] » We just 10 minutes. [clears throat]

[1:49:16] » I think everybody needs a break. Yes.

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[2:15:00] » This is a wear county commission regular meeting tonight

[2:15:05] and I'm going to do a roll call first.

[2:15:11] Sure. Mr. Bur >> present.

[2:15:13] » Mr. Tendle >> here.

[2:15:14] » Mr. Lucas >> here.

[2:15:16] » Mr. Cox >> here.

[2:15:17] » Cheer here. Okay. I hear a motion that we approve the

[2:15:23] agenda. >> So move.

[2:15:26] » Second. Okay. >> Got a motion in a second. Any discussion

[2:15:30] on it? >> All in favor?

[2:15:34] » I. Okay. Motion carried.

[2:15:38] Approve the minutes. Mr. Chair, offer a motion that we approve the minutes for

[2:15:42] the July 13, 2026 work session, public hearing, and regular meeting. Also the

[2:15:48] July 30th, 2026 call meeting. >> Second. We got a motion and a second.

[2:15:53] Any discussion on it?

[2:15:57] All right, let's vote on it. All in favor? I.

[2:16:01] » Okay, any oppose? Motion carried.

[2:16:07] All right. We don't we have a we don't have a guest speaker, do we?

[2:16:12] » We did earlier, but >> yeah.

[2:16:15] » All right. Let's go on to the agenda items. Purchase request for the IT

[2:16:21] department sonic security firewall software.

[2:16:25] » Mr. Chairman, [clears throat] I move that we purchase that we reg grant the

[2:16:30] purchase request for our IT department to get the Sonic security firewall

[2:16:33] software. Okay, second it.

[2:16:37] » Got a motion in a second. >> Any discussion on

[2:16:43] vote on it? All in favor? I >> Any oppose?

[2:16:50] » We got to have individual votes. >> We got We got to do it individually.

[2:16:53] » Yes, sir. He's in the charter. Okay.

[2:16:57] Clark said we have to do it individually.

[2:17:02] » Okay.

[2:17:09] » Mr. Bur. >> Hi.

[2:17:11] » Mr. Tenner. >> Hi.

[2:17:12] » Mr. Lucas. >> Hi.

[2:17:13] » Mr. C. >> Hi.

[2:17:15] » Chair. All right. [clears throat]

[2:17:21] on the award bid for I better give that to Mr. Bur. [laughter]

[2:17:28] » No. Which one are we? Uh >> D.

[2:17:34] » Oh, okay. Good and b. Okay. Thank Okay. All right. Uh we got an award be here

[2:17:40] for the paving for Good and Bay Road uh Valost Highway extending two miles. I

[2:17:46] have a motion on that. I motion that we approve the award bid for paving of

[2:17:50] Gooding Bay Road from Vosta Highway extending two miles to thrift brothers.

[2:17:56] » I second. >> Okay. Been properly moved and second

[2:17:59] that we approve the uh bid for Good and Bay Road from Valos Highway extending

[2:18:03] two miles. Any further discussion on that motion?

[2:18:07] Hearing none. Uh all in favor? I mean Commissioner Tenner.

[2:18:13] » Commissioner uh Lucas. >> Hi.

[2:18:15] » Commissioner Cox. Huh? The vice chair holds side. Okay. Back to you.

[2:18:20] » Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bur [clears throat]

[2:18:24] on the uh collection of garbage collection and

[2:18:29] disposal company. >> Mr. Chairman, I move that we award this

[2:18:35] contract to Ryland Environmental. >> Ryland Environmental.

[2:18:41] » I second. >> I got a motion and a second. Any

[2:18:46] discussion? >> Yes, sir. I I just get my notes out real

[2:18:51] quick. Um I I the reason I wanted to uh go this

[2:18:57] route is I really like the uh um the benefit of a Saturday opening for

[2:19:04] the um for the transfer station. Also being able to haul out there 300 lb a

[2:19:11] quarter for a year or or Yeah. 300 pounds a quarter each year for the

[2:19:16] residents. Um, you know, so I think that's a huge

[2:19:20] benefit to all of our residents. Um, and uh I I would like to amend that

[2:19:27] motion to say that I would I would like to amend it to say that it would be the

[2:19:31] 1965. Yeah.

[2:19:33] » Um it would still show nearly a dollar savings per uh customer, but then they

[2:19:39] would see the um the uh the benefit of being able to go out there, dump all

[2:19:45] stuff um you know, cuz I'm thinking not necessarily like um you know, a

[2:19:51] refrigerator or something like that that I'm going to put on I can put on the

[2:19:53] side road, but I'm talking about like some other debris that I may want to

[2:19:56] haul out there, clean it up around in my barn and things like that that I can

[2:20:00] take out there and, you know, still get about 300 lb. I mean, it's 1,200 lb of

[2:20:04] gear that I don't have to pay for. And um you know, if you look at it this way

[2:20:08] is that that's um [snorts] if there's 7,800 I think they verified

[2:20:14] around 7,800 [clears throat] um customers

[2:20:18] » at $100 a year, that's $780,000 of benefit that goes directly to

[2:20:24] the the customer, which are our taxpayers. And so, um, you know, with a

[2:20:31] I realize we get a, you know, $15,000 or would get a $15,000 franchise fee, uh,

[2:20:38] coming from Republic, but when we got a $33 million budget, the $15,000

[2:20:43] franchise fee is a very small small percentage. And I

[2:20:48] don't think that our taxpayers are going to see a benefit of that um

[2:20:54] significantly like they would with the [clears throat] uh being able to take

[2:20:57] the 300 lb every quarter out there. So um anyway, so that's my take on it.

[2:21:03] » Okay, >> Mr. chairman and hustle would like to u

[2:21:07] concur what commissioner tendler said and I looked at this very closely what

[2:21:12] each company proposed here and uh one of the things our citizen have been really

[2:21:18] making appeal to us for is being able to be able to take trash or garbage out you

[2:21:23] know uh whenever they could out to the transfer station and uh as it stands

[2:21:29] right now I thank Republic they're not open they not open at all on the hands.

[2:21:35] » Is that right? And uh whereas Rival, they have made a commitment to be open

[2:21:40] what one Saturday out the month to bring it out there. And uh so like I said, it

[2:21:46] was kind of difficult decision, but in the last at the end of the day, we got

[2:21:51] to make what's in the best interest of our citizens. And you know, I think this

[2:21:55] will be something that will be appeasing to them.

[2:22:00] » Mr. Mr. Chairman, I just I'd just like to say uh it far as the price went, it

[2:22:05] it was neck and neck to my opinion. It was just the different benefits that

[2:22:09] helped me make my mind up. I mean, you know, they got seem to have a little bit

[2:22:13] more options that people can can do. So, and it's actually cheaper than what

[2:22:19] we're paying now. So, if we go with the, you know, the higher price.

[2:22:24] [clears throat and cough] >> Okay.

[2:22:25] » For the more benefits. Any more discussion?

[2:22:32] Motion.

[2:22:37] Okay, we got a motion and a second.

[2:22:42] » And Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to verify that, you know, that I did amend

[2:22:45] my um my my motion to where it would be the the the offer of the $19.65 65 cent

[2:22:53] per can at the residence and not the 1915

[2:22:57] [clears throat] because I like the uh the benefit of being able to take the

[2:23:00] 300 lb each quarter. >> Each quarter.

[2:23:02] » Okay. >> And then just for clarity for the

[2:23:04] record, I think I believe Commissioner Cox seconded the original motion. Um

[2:23:08] would you amend your second to include that amendment?

[2:23:11] » Amend my second and rese. >> Thank you. Thank you, sir.

[2:23:14] » All right. >> We're ready for a vote then.

[2:23:16] » Okay. Any any more discussion on it? Anything

[2:23:21] else? Okay, let's vote on it. Mr. Buri,

[2:23:27] » Mr. Tendle, >> I

[2:23:28] » Mr. Lucas, >> what which company we voting for?

[2:23:31] » Ryland. >> I

[2:23:33] » Mr. Cox. >> I chair.

[2:23:37] Okay. Selection of an aviation consultant for

[2:23:43] planning services for the White Cross County Airport.

[2:23:52] Mr. Chairman, I move that we [clears throat and cough]

[2:23:56] uh select Pacero, is that how you say it? Pass

[2:24:01] or something. Passo as our aviation consultant for U consultant for planning

[2:24:08] services for the way crossber county airport

[2:24:10] » and I'll second his motion. Got a motion and a second.

[2:24:16] Any discussion? >> Yes sir. I just wanted to mention that,

[2:24:21] you know, as far as two companies, they were pretty close, but um given the fact

[2:24:25] that we've got several projects in line with um with this with Pasaro, um I

[2:24:31] think it would be beneficial for us to stay with it, I think it would lead to

[2:24:35] some confusion as far as future projects and the ones that we've got on board

[2:24:40] right now to have two consultants doing the same thing.

[2:24:42] » I totally agree. I totally agree. Right. >> So, and that would go for the same paid.

[2:24:47] Yeah. Yeah. Do what >> I said. Plus having to pay to Right.

[2:24:50] » If we brought a second one on. >> Yeah.

[2:24:52] » So Pacero I think is who we need to stay with. I agree with that.

[2:24:58] » All right. >> We take a vote on it.

[2:25:00] » Now would that cover D and E? >> No.

[2:25:04] » Yes. >> So any [clears throat] more discussion?

[2:25:08] » All right. Let's vote on Mr. Bur. Hi. >> Mr. Tendle. Hi.

[2:25:12] » Mr. Lucas. >> I on Puro.

[2:25:15] » Mr. C. Hi. and cha right now he is selection of an aviation

[2:25:21] consultant for design and construction services for the work across the way

[2:25:25] county airport. >> Mr. Chairman offer motion that we

[2:25:28] approve the uh passer role for the selection for the aviation consultant

[2:25:33] for design and construction services for ways county airport.

[2:25:36] » Second got a motion second. >> Any discussion?

[2:25:42] » Yep. Mr. Chairman, just for I guess so it won't be any confusion. It seemed

[2:25:47] like we're voting on the same thing and we are, but it's some wording in the

[2:25:52] second one just a little bit different. So I just wanted to make the public

[2:25:55] aware of that that we >> we're not voting on the same identical

[2:25:58] one but it is a different center but it's the same company.

[2:26:01] » Yeah. >> The first one for

[2:26:04] » and the second one for design and construction, right?

[2:26:08] [clears throat] Okay. anymore.

[2:26:13] » And this is for Pacero again. >> Yeah.

[2:26:15] » Right. >> Pass.

[2:26:16] » Pass. >> Pass. We'll get it right in a minute.

[2:26:19] » Pass what?

[2:26:24] » Mr. Mur. >> Hi.

[2:26:26] » Mr. Lucas. >> Hi.

[2:26:27] » Mr. Tendle. >> Hi.

[2:26:29] » Mr. Cox. >> Hi.

[2:26:30] » Chair. I >> Okay, we go on to F. Purchase request

[2:26:36] for vehicle maintenance public works building maintenance Nova solutions

[2:26:42] software. Mr. Chairman offer motion that we approve this person's request for the

[2:26:46] vehicle maintenance/public works/building maintenance Nova solution

[2:26:51] software. >> Second

[2:26:54] I got a motion and a second. any discussion on

[2:26:58] » chairman. I would just like to say, you know, I think this is something that's

[2:27:01] gonna help these different departments to be a little bit more [clears throat]

[2:27:04] efficient. It's going to help them to be able to better do their jobs. And I

[2:27:08] think anytime we can do anything to help our employees to do their job better. I

[2:27:13] think it's incumbent upon us as this commission to try to do that. I didn't I

[2:27:18] just kind of wish we could back up about a year or so put some of them other air

[2:27:21] conditioning we done bought on [laughter]

[2:27:25] » we >> well you know I think I think we'll be

[2:27:28] able to to go back and put some of the stuff I think that we would put you know

[2:27:33] stuff [clears throat] but then we kind of go back for you know right

[2:27:36] » two years three years or whatever to put stuff in there that's relatively new

[2:27:41] » the big >> um I think what they were talking about

[2:27:43] is that you wouldn't want to go back and put a 20-year-old Y old unit in there,

[2:27:48] whatever it may be. >> Um something that's looking to be

[2:27:52] » um you know, recycled soon, you wouldn't want to put that in there, right?

[2:27:56] » Um >> you we could put all the assets listed

[2:28:00] in there, but you wouldn't necessarily have the background data. Um but you

[2:28:04] would put all the assets in there and any any data that you would put in there

[2:28:08] would be anything moving forward as far as maintenance and repair work on it.

[2:28:12] Right. Right. and it will be kept up with from that date forward. And

[2:28:16] hopefully this this this kind of program I really like asset management programs

[2:28:20] because what they can do and I think they did mention it in there is that um

[2:28:25] a lot of times what it'll do is it'll predict it'll predict when a piece of

[2:28:28] equipment is going to break down based on um you know the useful life of

[2:28:33] equipment to where you know we deal with pump stations all the time and and um we

[2:28:38] use asset management programs with them and it's a lot easier to be able to pull

[2:28:41] that pump or to uh do some replacement on things on our time schedule rather

[2:28:46] than the time schedule of the equipment. >> Right.

[2:28:49] » Um the equipment tears up when you least need it to tear up.

[2:28:52] » Exactly. >> And so u if there's a way that we could

[2:28:55] do some uh preventative and predicative maintenance then um then it'll it'll be

[2:29:01] much more efficient all around the county.

[2:29:04] » Yeah. And you know when you saying that John I was thinking about even on a

[2:29:09] vehicle you know when you purchase a vehicle it'll have if you look in the

[2:29:13] book when you get the owner's manual it'll have like say like a fan bill say

[2:29:18] okay maybe they recommend at 7500 miles maybe you need to change it out. Now you

[2:29:22] don't have to and you might go another 3 or 4 thousand but on an average they're

[2:29:27] saying hey after that time you count on [clears throat] time then you know with

[2:29:31] it. So it's the same thing can be applicable to you know the county

[2:29:35] [snorts] and the different equipment we have just like these air condition

[2:29:38] whatever. >> Exactly.

[2:29:39] » You know it's going to be you may get some more out of it but you know it may

[2:29:44] be better going to change it. >> Absolutely.

[2:29:45] » Prevented maintenance. >> Okay.

[2:29:50] So we got a

[2:29:54] » motion. Do we have a second now? >> Yeah. You ready for

[2:29:58] » a motion in a second. All right. Any more discussion?

[2:30:02] » All right, let's vote on Mr. Bur. >> Hi,

[2:30:04] » Mr. Tendle. >> Hi,

[2:30:05] » Mr. Lucas. >> Hi,

[2:30:07] » Mr. Cox. >> Hi,

[2:30:08] » Chair. Hi. >> All right.

[2:30:14] There's a purchase request for E 911 office equipment.

[2:30:20] » Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we purchase that we agree to

[2:30:25] purchase [clears throat] request for E911 office equipment. I believe it's

[2:30:30] much needed especially for the job that they do for the city for the county and

[2:30:35] the city. >> I'll second it.

[2:30:37] » I'll third it. >> Got a motion to second

[2:30:41] and uh any discussion on it? >> When delivery date on it

[2:30:50] will be >> they need it pretty quick.

[2:30:52] » Uh I'm not sure when the delivery date be

[2:30:55] » shouldn't take too long to get those things in.

[2:30:57] couple weeks for the chairs and such and you know so but I I I agree with

[2:31:01] Commissioner Lucas that um you know being a stressful job out there if this

[2:31:07] is the least we can do is is give them some equipment, give them some good

[2:31:10] chairs to sit in um then then you know one way for us to show our appreciation

[2:31:17] for what they do and the service they give the county

[2:31:19] » and that that rise desk [clears throat] >> right and I think

[2:31:24] » excuse me one thing that wasn't mentioned is that this price includes

[2:31:28] them taking out the other old stuff that's in there and putting in this new

[2:31:32] stuff >> setting up. Yes, sir.

[2:31:33] » Yeah. So, it's this the whole 9 yard. >> That's good.

[2:31:36] » Yep. >> All right.

[2:31:38] » So, this will completely change their working.

[2:31:40] » Oh, yeah. >> And their adaptability plus being

[2:31:43] comfortable, too. >> I think it's going to be a good thing.

[2:31:47] » I might be next. >> That be that work. We We can We can hook

[2:31:51] you up. We >> got a motion in a second. We'll

[2:31:54] » get in there, too. I stand up all the time. All right,

[2:31:58] let's vote on it. Mr. >> Mur, I Mr. Tenner,

[2:32:02] » Mr. Lucas, I Mr. C. >> I chair.

[2:32:07] All right, we'll go on to H, which is purchase

[2:32:15] purchase request for recreation department

[2:32:19] purchase and install three 20tonon havoc units.

[2:32:25] » M chairman, offer motion that we approve this purchase request for the recck

[2:32:29] department to purchase and install three ton three 20 ton HVAC units for the

[2:32:35] recck department. What's the total? >> You you going to put the name of the

[2:32:39] company down to who where we going? >> Uh let's see what

[2:32:46] supply wind supply >> wind supply.

[2:32:48] » I think the total was 168,000. >> Well, I didn't I didn't put a mile

[2:32:53] because I know it was >> I don't know the whole

[2:32:57] » 163 163 246

[2:33:02] » 163 246. >> Okay.

[2:33:07] Okay. >> Add that to my motion.

[2:33:10] » The crane. >> You want to Yeah. Do you want to add the

[2:33:12] crane? >> But the whole the total amount be 163

[2:33:16] 246. Right. >> That's includ

[2:33:19] installation and the um

[2:33:25] » three units and dispos. Right. >> Okay.

[2:33:27] » Okay. Now we have that in there. >> We got a motion. Have a second.

[2:33:32] » Second. >> Second. Okay. I say now any more

[2:33:36] discussion? >> Well, Mr. Chairman, I just again just

[2:33:41] I just want to make sure that these units going to work for that system that

[2:33:46] we have out there now. I don't want to go ahead and get it and say, "Well, no,

[2:33:50] you going to have to buy this now to make these work out."

[2:33:53] » We we had a representative from Wind Supply come and walk and look and go on

[2:33:57] the roof and look at the systems to make sure that they were they were

[2:34:01] compatible. Um, and they would they would work. Okay.

[2:34:06] » Okay. >> Uh, Mr. Chairman, I I [clears throat] do

[2:34:08] want to mention for those that are just tuning in that um

[2:34:13] uh with the what Commissioner Bur was referring to is the the AON units that

[2:34:19] we have in there right now. In order to replace one of those units, it would run

[2:34:24] about $140,000 for one unit. and we're going to be able to get three units for

[2:34:30] 147 almost $148,000 plus $10,500 to install it and plus

[2:34:37] around five $5,000 for a crane. So, um [clears throat] for the the cost of it,

[2:34:42] we're going to be able to replace all three of them for the price of basically

[2:34:45] what it was going to be for for one unit.

[2:34:48] » Um so, um I I feel like and and the units are going to be bigger. They're

[2:34:52] going to be 20 ton instead of 15 ton. So, I I think that we're going to get

[2:34:56] our um a better value for >> more bang for the buck.

[2:35:00] » Yes. A better value for the for the money that we're spending. And this is

[2:35:04] coming out of splash funds. >> 2014

[2:35:07] » 2014 splash funds. So, >> for for county buildings, okay,

[2:35:10] » for county buildings. So, um, anyways, I I do feel like that, um, that that we're

[2:35:16] getting a better value, and I appreciate the staff looking into, uh, getting a

[2:35:21] better value for our money rather than just saying, "Oh, well, we just got to

[2:35:24] do the >> $150,000 per unit."

[2:35:28] » And, you know, one thing too, um, for the public and for the commission,

[2:35:34] the units we have right now currently, we don't control

[2:35:39] the temperature and all that stuff. is done somewhere else, right? Lance.

[2:35:42] » Yes, sir. >> Whereas these units, we won't be able to

[2:35:45] control them ourselves as far as to

[2:35:49] » lock thermostat on the wall. >> Yeah. Right now, they can't

[2:35:52] » cage around it. >> Yeah.

[2:35:54] » So, ball can't bust. >> Yeah. So, I I think that's that's a plus

[2:35:58] right there. >> Okay.

[2:35:59] » Who's going to have a key to that cage? >> Lance

[2:36:03] and maintenance. >> And you

[2:36:05] » I mean, building maintenance. If I got to go out and serve recess, we

[2:36:10] in trouble. [laughter]

[2:36:14] Okay, [clears throat] we got a

[2:36:20] a motion and a second. Any more discussion?

[2:36:25] Just vote on Mr. Bur.

[2:36:28] » Hi. >> Mr. Tenner.

[2:36:29] » Hi. >> Mr. Lucas.

[2:36:31] » I >> Mr. C.

[2:36:32] » Hi. >> Chair. [clears throat]

[2:36:35] Okay. Uh we're going to go in executive session

[2:36:40] to discuss real estate litigation and personnel.

[2:36:44] » Mr. Chair, I move that we uh adjourn to executive session to discuss real estate

[2:36:48] litigation and personnel. >> Second motion in a second. All right.

[2:36:56] All in favor? >> All in favor? I

[2:37:02] do it on that one. [cough]

[2:37:04] » [clears throat]

[2:37:22] » Uh, wait. Cheers.

[2:37:41] You got many more. >> You don't need that one.

[2:37:48] » Okay. [clears throat]

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[3:46:37] » I hear a motion to adjourn the executive session.

[3:46:40] » So move. >> Second.

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[3:46:51] » motion adjourn. Now I hear a motion to adjourn the meeting.

[3:46:55] » So move chair. >> Got a motion and a second. All in favor?

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2026-08-10 Work Session & Regular Meeting

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