Community Development Block Grant Meeting - March 12, 2026

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[0:03] Okay,
[0:04] >> welcome everybody. Thank you for coming
[0:06] and thank you for being flexible on this
[0:08] meeting time. Uh I know it's a Thursday
[0:11] which is super weird and it's May and we
[0:13] have or it's March and we haven't met
[0:15] since
[0:16] >> feels like May.
[0:17] >> Yeah, since August.
[0:18] >> Yeah, it's been quite a long time. Um,
[0:21] and I'll just I alluded to this in my
[0:23] email, but um, and anyone who has a a
[0:27] CDBG award from last year knows that the
[0:29] contracting process has been extremely
[0:31] slow. We're still waiting on our WFRC
[0:34] contract. And without that contract in
[0:36] place, I don't have access to web
[0:38] grants, which is where all of our
[0:40] applications are
[0:42] housed. Um and so it's been um a
[0:45] particularly difficult year in assisting
[0:48] uh communities with their applications
[0:50] one and then two reviewing those
[0:52] applications getting those over. So I
[0:54] met with the state early last week and u
[0:57] they had to help me like go through
[0:59] review those and then I got them to just
[1:01] um send me PDFs of all those and so it's
[1:04] been kind of like all coming together at
[1:06] the last minute. So, um, apologies. Um,
[1:10] but
[1:12] we're good to go now and hopefully
[1:14] you've had some time to review and just,
[1:17] um, per usual, you know, like I've gone
[1:19] through and done, um, what I believe to
[1:21] be an accurate account of the scoring.
[1:23] And, um, uh, just if there's any
[1:26] questions, we can go through those, but
[1:28] we'll just get started with the agenda
[1:29] before I get too ahead of myself here.
[1:31] Um, Kate Becker, she's the Morgan County
[1:34] manager. Um she's obviously new to our
[1:38] committee. She replaced Josh Josh Cook.
[1:40] Um she has prior CDBG experience. Um but
[1:43] unfortunately for us, her son is getting
[1:45] married, so she is um at his wedding and
[1:49] which can't blame her there. So we'll
[1:52] have to intro and welcome her at our
[1:54] next meeting. [clears throat]
[1:56] >> Um also it was brought to my attention I
[2:00] think I might have sent the same minutes
[2:02] twice in the meeting packet. Um but we
[2:05] have our August meeting and our
[2:08] September supplemental meeting when we
[2:11] didn't have a quorum in August. So we
[2:13] had to have a meeting in September. It
[2:15] was like a three minute meeting if that
[2:18] just to so that we could take action to
[2:20] approve
[2:21] >> our um rating and ranking. So we have an
[2:26] action on both of those.
[2:30] » I'll make a motion.
[2:35] Okay, great. We have a motion. Council
[2:37] member, was that a second or we clearing
[2:39] your throat?
[2:41] >> Just just one comment. Uh
[2:42] >> oh yeah,
[2:43] >> Christy, on the U August 9th minutes,
[2:46] you referenced Council Member Anderson.
[2:48] Unless there's a Anderson, it probably
[2:51] Alexander.
[2:52] >> Oh my gosh. And I keep calling you that
[2:54] as well. I'm sorry.
[2:57] >> I've been called worse. No worries.
[2:59] [laughter]
[3:00] You're good.
[3:00] >> I'm so sorry. Okay. Okay. I have it
[3:04] written down. Did I write it somewhere
[3:07] else as Anderson?
[3:09] >> I don't think so. I not that I caught,
[3:11] but it's not a big deal.
[3:12] >> Oh, Anderson right there. Okay. On the
[3:14] other Okay. I I uh go back and forth
[3:16] between Alexander and Anderson.
[3:19] [laughter]
[3:19] >> I apologize.
[3:21] >> I could give you half a dozen others,
[3:23] too, if you need them. [laughter]
[3:26] >> Aliases,
[3:29] » we understand.
[3:30] >> They're not good.
[3:33] Yeah. If you ever can't make it to the
[3:34] next one, we'll just blame it on uh Mr.
[3:36] Anderson.
[3:37] >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. On the council
[3:39] member, huh?
[3:40] >> Okay. So, with that one amendment, are
[3:44] there any opposed to the meeting
[3:46] minutes?
[3:48] >> Nope.
[3:49] >> Great.
[3:52] » Wonderful. So, we'll move on to the uh
[3:56] Oh, not not quite to the fun part, but
[3:58] the annual action plan. So, just as a
[4:00] reminder, um last year we adopted our
[4:04] five-year consolidated plan and each
[4:06] year as kind of a way to like track our
[4:09] goals and progress, we have the annual
[4:11] action plan. So, um probably the main
[4:14] thing that we want to look at here in
[4:17] this annual action plan is the goals
[4:19] page.
[4:21] um
[4:23] which tracks how many persons and how
[4:27] many households that we plan to assist
[4:29] this year. Um the timing of this, as
[4:33] with everything else in this program, is
[4:35] not perfect. It's not aligned. These
[4:37] projects haven't happened yet. These are
[4:38] just what we hope to fund. And so, um
[4:43] they're, you know, it we're always
[4:45] putting the cart before the horse, I
[4:46] feel like, in this program. But um
[4:49] pretty good numbers this year.
[4:52] 150 households
[4:54] to be assisted and that's through Weber
[4:56] County which we'll get into our our fun
[4:58] meat of it in our next item. But and
[5:00] then 10,000 10 and a half thousand
[5:02] persons assisted. So it's pretty good
[5:06] year as far as benefits go. Um, any
[5:08] other comments or questions about the
[5:10] annual action plan
[5:15] or anyone wants to make a motion?
[5:18] >> Is it to the point we can approve it?
[5:20] >> Yes. Oh, I should also mention yes, it's out for a 30-day public comment.
[5:25] So,
[5:25] >> okay.
[5:26] >> Um, you know, if we do get any comments,
[5:28] we'll have to maybe revisit
[5:31] depending on what the comments are.
[5:33] >> [clears throat]
[5:33] >> However, in my almost 10 years, we've
[5:36] never received a comment. So,
[5:39] >> good point. [laughter]
[5:41] Move to approve. Second.
[5:44] >> All right. Any oppose?
[5:46] >> No.
[5:48] >> Great.
[5:49] Flying.
[5:51] All right. Now, on to the fun part. And
[5:54] it's fun this year because we have no
[5:58] disqualifications.
[6:00] Yay. [laughter]
[6:02] >> Yay. It is incredibly easy to be
[6:04] disqualified as uh Mayor Olsen is aware.
[6:07] Um
[6:09] it was a pretty good year. Um we worked
[6:11] really hard to get more applications. As
[6:14] you all remember, we've had a couple of
[6:16] years where we haven't been able to
[6:17] spend all of our money.
[6:18] >> We're gonna spend it all.
[6:19] and some.
[6:21] >> Yay.
[6:22] I know. I'm so excited. Um
[6:27] yes. So, something else I'll just
[6:29] mention up front. Couple of things. One,
[6:32] you'll notice that capacity um for all
[6:36] is not filled in yet except Mary
[6:38] Slaterville, which that is a typo. My
[6:41] Excel spreadsheet is like um
[6:44] has all the formulas put in it and so
[6:47] something along must have accidentally
[6:49] got the formula messed up. So, all these
[6:51] number one capacity things are um
[6:54] undetermined. They'll be determined by
[6:55] the state and as soon as I get that in,
[6:58] we'll have a better idea. I do know,
[7:00] Vernon, because you've never received an
[7:02] application or a a grant before, you
[7:05] automatically get a 2.5 because they
[7:07] have no way to
[7:09] gauge your
[7:12] management of a of a grant before. Um,
[7:16] so if we flip to the end, let's see, you
[7:20] have currently
[7:22] >> 36 and a half. So that would bring you
[7:25] up to what? 39.
[7:26] >> 39.
[7:27] >> And if everyone else gets a five, let's
[7:30] see. 41
[7:32] 28
[7:35] 47
[7:36] 53.
[7:40] That would put one above you. What is
[7:42] that?
[7:44] Wendover, they might not get a five. So,
[7:47] we'll that will be three to two to TBD.
[7:52] Um, the other thing I'll mention is that
[7:57] change.
[7:57] >> Yeah.
[8:00] >> The other thing I'll mention is that the
[8:01] state
[8:03] may have to track me on this. It I think
[8:06] last year changed the way that they do
[8:09] leftover funds. So in previous years, if
[8:12] an AOG didn't spend all of their money,
[8:14] the money they didn't spend would go
[8:16] back into the state pot. So every year
[8:18] the state gets a chunk of CDBG money. It
[8:20] goes through a formula and it's sent to
[8:22] each of the seven AOGs. And in previous
[8:24] years,
[8:25] >> that money would be put back in state
[8:27] pot to be divided seven ways in that
[8:29] formula the following year. They've
[8:32] recently changed it in an attempt to
[8:34] spend all the money in that program
[8:36] year. So instead of going back into a
[8:39] pot to be divided seven ways next year,
[8:42] they are giving it away to other AOGs in
[8:46] the current year to try and spend, which
[8:48] is another big reason why we've been
[8:49] really pushing to spend all of our money
[8:51] because we don't want to share our money
[8:53] with the other. [laughter]
[8:55] But
[8:57] we're here.
[8:58] >> Yes. [gasps]
[9:00] So,
[9:02] as you can see, we do run out of money
[9:05] after the one, two, three, fourth. Um,
[9:09] it looks like partial funding for a
[9:11] fourth. Um,
[9:14] however,
[9:16] in the event that there's other AOGs
[9:18] that don't spend all of their money,
[9:20] hopefully we can get our hands on some
[9:23] of that. Um, I asked, you know, how does
[9:26] that work? Is it first come, first
[9:27] served? it is a little bit convoluted
[9:30] because it is such a new policy. Um, and
[9:35] you know, they haven't received their
[9:38] money yet. So, like the long the short
[9:42] answer, the long answer that I got that
[9:44] didn't fully answer my question when I
[9:46] asked the state was that they're going
[9:48] to try to quote unquote find the money
[9:51] to fund all the projects. Um, so with
[9:56] that being said, you know, there's a
[9:58] chance that all of our projects could be
[10:01] fully funded. Um,
[10:05] barring that,
[10:08] » that's a good question. [laughter] Yes.
[10:11] Uh,
[10:13] normally we would know, I think, by now.
[10:15] I just barely after we had our meeting
[10:19] got this number, this 1,111,477
[10:23] number. So, it's fairly recent. Um,
[10:28] >> that's higher than, isn't it? Is that a
[10:30] little bit higher?
[10:31] >> Oh, what was it last year?
[10:34] >> It was It was fairly close. Yeah, within
[10:36] a couple thousand.
[10:39] >> Seven or eight.
[10:40] >> Yeah, it did. Like at when I first
[10:43] started it was right around where it is
[10:44] now. It did at one point dip under a
[10:47] million and then it's come back up
[10:48] again.
[10:49] >> Good. [snorts] Good. So, will we learn
[10:51] anything in two weeks at our state
[10:54] policy board meeting?
[10:56] >> Hopefully.
[10:56] >> Won't we won't they have the same thing
[10:58] and they'll say, "Hey, we've got we only
[11:00] got three people.
[11:02] >> Won't we kind of know something?"
[11:04] >> I'm Yeah, I'm hoping. I haven't seen an
[11:05] agenda for that meeting, but um
[11:07] >> that two weeks
[11:09] >> Yeah.
[11:10] >> know something.
[11:11] >> Yes. Yes, it is. Our biggest problem in
[11:14] small town is trying to get the bids and
[11:17] everything to try to get something done.
[11:20] I mean, probably get it done this year
[11:22] will be
[11:24] >> It'll be Well, we're still we're still
[11:27] working on last year's projects.
[11:29] >> Yeah. Well, and when did you get the
[11:31] contract? Like not that long ago,
[11:32] probably.
[11:33] >> Yeah,
[11:34] >> two weeks ago. So, it does take
[11:36] >> two weeks.
[11:36] >> Well, just because
[11:37] >> Yeah.
[11:39] everything back in DC, the shutdown, the
[11:41] big beautiful bill, the all that crap.
[11:43] >> So when the money gets released, this
[11:46] >> Yeah.
[11:47] >> So we didn't even we've been
[11:49] >> working on this all, you know, all of
[11:51] last year, all the first of this year,
[11:53] and finally
[11:54] >> got the word three weeks ago that we
[11:57] could start doing something.
[11:59] >> Yeah. And like I said, WFRC, we still
[12:02] don't have our executed contract. So,
[12:04] [clears throat]
[12:05] [laughter]
[12:06] they've extended the timelines. The time
[12:07] the contracts used to be 12-month
[12:09] contracts. They're now 18month contracts
[12:10] to help try and help
[12:14] with that. But, uh,
[12:18] let's see.
[12:19] >> So, how much more do we need to fully
[12:21] fund everybody?
[12:23] >> So, Mary Slaterville needs an extra
[12:27] 55,000
[12:29] and then or no, sorry, who is that?
[12:34] These printed so funky.
[12:35] >> They did print kind [laughter] of weird.
[12:37] >> Okay. Yeah, Windover needs an extra
[12:39] 55,000 and then Merit Sederville needs a
[12:41] whole
[12:42] >> 200
[12:42] >> 200,000.
[12:45] >> But did you say Vernon Windover might
[12:48] switch places
[12:49] >> potentially depending on what the state
[12:51] score is, which
[12:53] >> would be a huge bummer for Vernon. I
[12:56] don't know um if you guys would be able
[13:00] to start a project with [clears throat]
[13:02] 245,000.
[13:04] >> Yeah.
[13:04] >> I mean, you would be getting 200 in the
[13:07] second year. So, I would have to ask if
[13:08] we would be able to finagle like a swap.
[13:10] Like, if they get their 200 year,
[13:13] $200,000 funding this year, could they
[13:16] get their 500 next year? Kind of
[13:18] >> kind of swap. Um
[13:22] but
[13:23] >> yeah, Merit Cider Bill didn't score
[13:25] super well.
[13:27] >> When will we know that state number?
[13:29] >> Hopefully
[13:30] >> up in the air like everything else.
[13:32] [laughter]
[13:32] >> They I they told me they were going to
[13:34] send me their stuff last week. So
[13:38] >> Okay.
[13:41] » Yeah.
[13:41] >> I mean they they've worked with them
[13:43] before. They should have that
[13:44] information.
[13:46] >> Yeah. The person who was supposed to
[13:48] send it to me, I guess, was out of town
[13:50] but got back last Thursday, so I was
[13:52] supposed to see it last Thursday.
[13:54] [clears throat] Yeah, I haven't seen it.
[14:00] » Um,
[14:03] >> the they have the same program manager
[14:04] as last year. Yeah.
[14:06] >> And it is all the same people.
[14:08] >> Okay.
[14:08] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[14:10] And we'll see. I don't know um if what's going to happen. So in the
[14:14] legislature there was a a bill to move
[14:19] every
[14:20] funding pot that touches housing to
[14:25] and this is a real test either gobb or
[14:28] go and so right now CDBG's house at DWS
[14:33] and it would it is potentially shifting
[14:36] to another state entity so that will be
[14:39] interesting as well to see if and how
[14:42] that works.
[14:44] with such a complex program. But
[14:47] did anything in the scoring or in the
[14:49] applications kind of surprise anybody?
[14:52] Anything look like incorrect?
[15:05] Everything looking good. So,
[15:09] okay.
[15:11] Well,
[15:14] I'm trying to think what what kind of
[15:16] motion we should make, not knowing the
[15:17] state scores and not knowing if uh if
[15:20] Vernon and Wover are going to flip, but
[15:23] um I guess we can make a motion that
[15:26] based on criteria two through
[15:29] >> based on the information
[15:30] >> 15. Yes. [laughter]
[15:32] >> Yeah.
[15:34] >> Contingent upon state
[15:36] >> Yes.
[15:37] >> decisions and state numbers or
[15:39] something.
[15:41] Yes. Anyone feel comfortable making
[15:42] that?
[15:43] >> I feel comfortable making that.
[15:45] >> I'll second them.
[15:46] >> Okay.
[15:47] Any opposed?
[15:50] >> No.
[15:51] >> Fabulous. All right. Well, I will keep
[15:53] you guys updated when we get those
[15:55] numbers, when we get those scores,
[15:56] everything that's going on. Keep your
[15:59] toes and fingers crossed that we get an
[16:01] extra quarter of a million and all of
[16:03] our projects get funded. I'd be so
[16:05] excited. I'd be so excited. [laughter]
[16:10] All right. In upcoming business, let's
[16:12] see. Um May will be our next meeting and
[16:17] that is when we'll start to look ahead
[16:19] of year and we'll start looking at
[16:20] updating our policies and procedures and
[16:22] rating and ranking criteria. You
[16:24] >> have a date on that.
[16:26] >> I do have a date.
[16:28] >> That sounds
[16:30] accurate.
[16:32] >> Okay, perfect.
[16:34] >> What was the date?
[16:35] >> Let's see.
[16:36] >> 19th of May.
[16:37] >> 19. Okay, thank you.
[16:41] >> Tuesday the best day for everybody?
[16:43] >> That's a good Yeah. I mean, did
[16:44] Thursdays work better for people? This
[16:46] is a Thursday, which is kind of weird,
[16:48] but
[16:48] >> good day for me. Yes,
[16:50] >> Thursdays do work better.
[16:51] >> Better or Wednesdays, but Thursdays are
[16:54] good, too.
[16:56] >> I can't do better than I I'd rather have
[16:59] Thursdays and Tuesdays, but that's just
[17:02] me.
[17:03] >> If people would rather have Thursdays,
[17:04] we can switch. Yeah, Thursday's
[17:07] >> Thursday's good on my part. Tuesday's
[17:09] council, so it's seems like there's
[17:10] always something going on there.
[17:12] >> Tuesday's commission for me, too. So,
[17:15] >> okay.
[17:15] >> Well, let's get away from those days
[17:19] meeting it on the way home.
[17:22] >> Oh, okay.
[17:22] >> Play around solid for three hours.
[17:25] [laughter]
[17:26] >> Your job is that early.
[17:27] >> Save me a trip.
[17:29] >> Thursday's fine. I just can't.
[17:32] >> Okay. So that um the Tuesday meeting is
[17:35] in our bylaws. So I'll just go ahead and
[17:37] um update that and we could take action
[17:39] on that in May
[17:41] >> and then plan on the 21st.
[17:43] You'll you'll send out a
[17:45] >> Yes.
[17:45] >> 21st or 28th?
[17:49] >> Yeah. So if we wanted to switch that
[17:50] would put it onto the 21st of May if
[17:54] that works.
[17:55] >> I like that.
[17:58] >> Okay.
[17:59] >> Good.
[18:00] >> Awesome. Well, then I'll update those
[18:02] bylaws and we'll get that that rolling
[18:05] and we'll start meeting on Thursdays.
[18:09] >> Christie Christie, it's a lot of work
[18:10] for you. So, thank you for your efforts
[18:12] also.
[18:13] >> No, thank you guys for coming and
[18:16] following along and paying attention and
[18:17] making great suggestions and letting me
[18:19] call you Anderson.
[18:21] [laughter]
[18:24] » Oh, you're you're very kind.
[18:28] >> All right. I never know if we have to do
[18:30] a action to a Jordan, but [laughter]
[18:35] >> I'll say it.
[18:36] >> All right, we're at Jordan.
[18:38] >> Hit your fist on the table.
[18:39] >> Get your lunch hour back. Yes.
[18:41] >> All right. [laughter]
[18:42] >> Thanks everyone.
[18:43] >> Thanks everybody.
[18:44] >> Goodbye.