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device.
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>> You think you're grabb
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» Yeah, exactly.
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time. Excited.
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>> Let's get started on this old dreary
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morning.
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>> All right.
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Roll call.
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>> Yes.
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>> Emma Barbieri
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>> here. Clarken.
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Emily Gray here. Greg Shelson here.
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Jerry Lenderson
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here. I'm online.
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present
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houseman.
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Nick looks like he's online.
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Nicole Handy here. Terry George
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>> here. This is Spitzer.
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Seth Jacob D.
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All right. Um now like to open the
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meeting for public comment. Any members
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in the public wishing to speak before
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this body.
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All right. Like to close public comment.
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Um now for board business. Um, we would
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like to welcome our new board member. Is
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it Lisa or Lis?
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>> Just Lisa is easy.
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>> Lisa. Okay.
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>> And you know there's no A.
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>> All right. Making sure I'm getting that
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right. Le Broomhart from the top right.
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And I've been able to be on a couple of
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other leisure. She's wonderful. Thank
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you.
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>> And then Lee, we're gonna end this show
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over office too.
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Thank you. In fact, if you please raise
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your hand and repeat after me. I state
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your name. I
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having been appointed to the office of
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having
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>> while such firm waste
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» board of trustees. board of trustees
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>> do solemnly swear or affirm
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>> do solemnly swear
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>> that I will support obey and defend
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>> I will support
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>> the Constitution of the United States
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>> Constitution of the United States
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>> and the Constitution of the State of
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Utah
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>> and of the State of Utah
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>> and that I will discharge the duties of
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my office
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» with the
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Thanks so much.
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» Please um have a corresponding with
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that. Uh we have um need to adopt the
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resolution um expressing appreciation
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for our former board member Keith Zusen
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um for his service also as board vice
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chair. has been very helpful in in a lot
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of our meetings kind of getting things
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organized. Um we know that he's getting
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very busy as both of our canyon members
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have a lot of road projects going on and
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that that's taking a lot of their time.
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Um and Keith is it sounds like picking
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up a lot of that. We appreciate your
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service. So um I'll take a motion from
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that resolution.
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>> So move.
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>> Second.
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>> Thank you. You have a motion and a
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second. Um, do we need to do we need to
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do roll call on this or we just Okay.
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All in favor adopt your resol resolution
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4447.
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>> I
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>> Any opposed?
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>> I am not opposed. I am in favor.
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» Thanks, Tessa.
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All right. Motion passes. Um, that's for
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Keith. Um, as as Keith was our board
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vice chair, we now need to uh replace uh
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that position as vice chair. So, I will
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take any nominations for anyone wanting
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to be the vice chair.
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» I'll nominate myself.
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» All right. We have a nomination for Anna
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Barbiieri as board vice chair.
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>> I'll second that.
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>> Second. All right. I have a motion and a
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second to nominate Anna Barbie as vice
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chair Ros wast and recycling board. Uh
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all in favor or do we need to say the
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>> Oh, sorry. Thank you. Motion to appoint
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a barbie admin Barbie.
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Um and it will take uh second for that.
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>> Okay,
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>> we can do a post. Okay, all in favor
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>> I
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oppose.
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All right, thank you very much. And I
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know this is not your first rodeo and we
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appreciate your your experience and
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willingness to to help us out.
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Um we have um coming up on the week of
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June 17th is National Waste and
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Recycling Workers Week. Uh and as such
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we have a proclamation um recognizing
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that that I would like to read. Um
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we have our employees here.
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>> Oh, awesome.
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They can't buy this. Mhm.
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» All the way to the front, please.
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» Hey, don't stand with the project.
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Don't wait for
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» you.
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>> I know.
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All right.
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>> All right. All right.
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mine.
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>> Um, before I read this proclamation, I
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just want to express personally and and
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on behalf of the board how much we
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appreciate all that you do. We know that
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it is a difficult job. It is often
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underappreciated.
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Um, but it is something that we all rely
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on every single day uh in our community.
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And when it doesn't get done well like
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you guys do, um, that that's when we
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hear about it. Um and and really we just
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appreciate all of your hard work every
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single day. Um so on that note, I'd like
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to um read this um proclamation
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recognizing the week of June 17th as
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National Waste and Recycling Workers
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Week and then after um a motion from the
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board to adopt this. Um whereas the
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nation celebrates the week of June 17th
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as National Waste and Recycling Workers
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Week and whereas National Garbage Man
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and Woman Day began in 2012 to show
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community appreciation for the local
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people of the garbage sanitation and
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recycling industry and later changed the
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official name to Waste and Recycling
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Workers Week. And whereas the earliest
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garbage regulation efforts began in 3000
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BC. Oh wow, I'm wearing this. um with a
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dirt landfill was developed in Creek
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where large holes were dug for refu and
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whereas since that time solid waste
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workers have worked selflessly and
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tirelessly in all types of environments
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weather pandemics civil unrest war and
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at risk to themselves to provide solid
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waste services to protect communities
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and residents prevent disease and keep
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our communities clean, safe and
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beautiful. And whereas the people
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employed by Wasatch Front Waste to
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Recycling DI District make significant
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contributions to the safety, health, and
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welfare of our residents by properly
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protect collecting and hauling over 250
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million pounds of garbage recycling and
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composting annually. And whereas with an
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area spanning over 750 square miles of
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land and thousands of miles of roads,
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the residents of Salt Lake County depend
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on the collection and proper disposal of
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waste, recyclables, and compostables.
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And whereas the proper collection,
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disposal, and maintenance of waste,
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recyclables, and compostables are vital
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to preventing disease and unsightly
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litter. And whereas the solid waste
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industry employs thousands of people
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around the United States and they should
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be recognized and elevated because they
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provide essential services to the
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communities they serve. And whereas
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Wasatch Front Waste and Recycling
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District values and celebrates our local
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solid waste industry workers for their
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commitment to our residents, businesses,
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and communities. And we want to elevate
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solid waste history workers and the
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profession as a whole. Now therefore, I,
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Emily Gray, by virtue of the authority
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vested in me as chairperson of the board
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of trustees of Wasatch Front Waste and
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Recycling District, do hereby proclaim
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June 14th to the 20th, 2026 as Waste and
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Recycling Workers Week in the Wasatch
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Front Waste and Recycling District and
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encourage all residents to join me in
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thanking the hardworking community to
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ensure our communities are kept safe,
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clean, and healthy.
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Thank you very much.
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So, I'd like to suggest that we adopt
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this and then um take a picture and I
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would like to shake everybody's hand as
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we walk out. I really just very much
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appreciate all the do. Then Evan would
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like to say a few words too maybe
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before. Sorry.
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>> Yeah. So, just briefly um I really
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appreciate the board's consideration and
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adopting this proclamation. This is
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something you know in past roles as
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well. This is there's actually a website
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with waste and recycling workers week
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that has templates and various
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activities that that is kind of
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celebrating as part of of this national.
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So, since I've been on on board with
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this organization now about nine months,
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um you the team really is is working to
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satisfy our customers best interest and
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carries out the work selflessly uh
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dayto-day and I I really appreciate it
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and um it's been great to join and be a
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part of this team and I think the team
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has fully embraced um you know me as as
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relatively new to the organization. So,
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thank you very much. We we will have u a
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celebration as part of our monthly
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recognition event on June 18th. Uh we
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will invite board members if they'd like
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to attend during that event. We'll be
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early uh Thursday, June Pink at 7 a.m.,
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but um extend an invite to all the board
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members. Hopefully you can attend
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participate in that celebration. So
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>> beautiful.
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>> Thank you.
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>> All right. Before you leave, I just uh
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want to pass this while you guys are
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here. So I will accept a motion to pass
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that this resolution or to adopt this
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res proclamation.
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>> So moved.
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>> Second.
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>> Yeah.
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>> All in favor?
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>> I.
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>> Any opposed?
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>> All right. The proclamation passes.
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Thank you again so very much for all
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that you do for us.
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» We get a picture of all of you in the
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middle. look at the board around you and
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then
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» was already And then I like
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pushing it.
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Excellent
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forward.
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We'll get another one.
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» Perfect. Thank you.
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>> All right.
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Yeah,
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it's like
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» all
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my insurance one
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Somebody misses you.
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» Brag,
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thinking handshake.
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>> That's really great.
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» All right. Um, so now we have um consent items. um approval of um the
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meeting minutes for March 23rd. Um and
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then can we do this all as one, Rachel?
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The March 23rd and April. Okay. So, we
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get we approve March 23rd board of
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trustee RA trustes regular meeting
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minutes and then April 27th board of
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trustees and leadership staff minutes. I
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get a motion to approve those.
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>> I approve those. I get a second.
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>> Second.
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>> I have a motion. I have a motion and a
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second. All in favor?
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>> I.
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>> Any opposed?
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All right. So, I have those uh minutes
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approved.
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>> All right. Then let's move on to uh
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general manager report by Evan.
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>> Yes. Thank you. Good morning everyone.
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I'm going to provide us a few vertal
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updates and then largely I'll focus on
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an update to the NGIS or priorities
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goals and initiatives and then just kind
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of speak through some of those updates.
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So just for your reference on that
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spreadsheet and as published in the
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packet the the yellow highlights are
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indicating items that are have been
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updated since the last published PGIs
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which was uh during the the board retrie
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updates in that
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providing verbal updates. So we have a
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lot going on and uh most of our new
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programs and platforms have transitioned
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very well. So, as of week four, we went
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live with appointing pay. Many thanks to
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Helen and her team for really the the
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planning, a lot of planning to to make
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that transition successful and
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integration. We've worked through a
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couple minor hiccups, but overall it's gone very well and it's been a very
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positive transition. Um, so happy to if
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there are concerns or people are hearing
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things about that, please please let us
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know. I'll be happy to address those if
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there are any items related to that
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>> if people um so maybe there's somebody
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who is not yet like updating their
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automatic payment like myself.
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>> So when would we find that out like when
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would you be aware like when you're
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starting to see like payments on the
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like would we already know that or is
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that forthcoming? The first uh payment
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for pay will be at the last day. Um but
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this week actually I'm going to go
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through and compare
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try to get a list of the registered out
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of pay customers in point and compare it
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to the pay customers that we knew were
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pay before pay and then um try to reach
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out to them by email and just remind
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them what they need to go inside.
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Oh, that's already taking control. Yeah,
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>> as somebody who puts that out of their
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mind, I I really
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>> and and we've been waiting lately, I
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think, for the entirety of this year.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, we'll we'll look to kind of
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reinstitute those
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maybe June
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>> and and that too. So, that's
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talked about during the retreat. plans
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to go live with postcard bills uh
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effective at the beginning of June. So
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the May services invoice will will be
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sent out for those who are not on paper
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list will be sent out via postcard.
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It's in these PGIs anticipated cost
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savings moving forward
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is about 191,000
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annually for for this just that
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commission.
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Uh a few other items, we have also
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rolled out the new specialty curbside
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collection services program. So that's
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the program where folks can uh year
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round submit a request through our our
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website which which Gail and Rene have
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worked on to make that very streamlined
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and straightforward in my opinion for
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the curbside pickup and scheduling for
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mattresses, tires, appliances, air
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conditioners, etc. We went live May 1st
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with that program and since then we
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we've had about two weeks of the program
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which it has uh picked up a lot of
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interest and we've done I think the
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first week was 14 separate pickups.
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We're right now focusing those on one
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day per week for for the pickup and we
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kind of get the program rolled out. Uh
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but as of the first week and last week,
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we had picked up a total of 10
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mattresses,
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eight freon appliances, 11 non-free
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appliances, lots of hot water heaters,
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surprisingly, and about three towers. So
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we're staging those out in the room here
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and we're basically working on getting
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contracts established for those
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materials, which they will all
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ultimately be recycled. There's a
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mattress recycler. We're working on a
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scrap metal recycler. Uh the tires will
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go to GSL tire recycling. It's Stanford
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greater solid. So working through all
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those pieces has gone uh very well. And
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we're also retrieving several items um
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in some pieces that are not acceptable
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in the scrap program, but we're pulling
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some of those back from the scrap
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program and also those containers as
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well. So once they're full, we'll haul
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those to those facilities and and
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maximize our efficiencies instead of
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hauling individual warrants.
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>> I'm really excited about this. I feel
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like we're meeting a need that it's out
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there that we
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>> Yeah. And we'll continue to track Rene
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has worked with her team to develop a
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heat map as to where the requests are
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coming from as well. So we'll report
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more information as that program further
[20:03]
gets it this information. So, few other
[20:06]
quick updates. A few months ago, I spoke
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towards the mahogany radius radio tower
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upgrades that we were not were not
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anticipating this year uh as a rather
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large capital um costs. And with the
[20:18]
tower upgrade, which should be shared
[20:20]
with the county plus new um radio
[20:24]
frequency, the new radio that's been
[20:25]
selling the truck, we look at about
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$400,000
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for that total cost for the year. We are
[20:31]
actively evaluating an alternative
[20:33]
option which would be tied in through
[20:36]
the Verizon network through a pushto
[20:38]
talk radio methodology. There's a lot of
[20:42]
um government um
[20:46]
cost reductions as part of that and so
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the quote and David's been actually
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working on this uh we looks like we
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we're likely to move forward with that.
[20:54]
Right now we have sort of pilot. Uh but
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the capital cost to get the the mounts
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for these radios is only about 25 to
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$30,000 total.
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And that would be the only capital cost
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we would incur. And the ongoing cost is
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no more than $2,500 per month.
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>> And so looking at a break even is over a
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decade. If we were to get push to talk
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radios as opposed to supporting these
[21:21]
radio tower capital upgrades and all the
[21:24]
brand new radios met to purchase and
[21:26]
install, we'll likely add the PGIs as a
[21:29]
onetime cost savings. But looking at all
[21:31]
avenues to to reduce and avoid those
[21:34]
costs and appears it'll be just as
[21:37]
reliable and will satisfy our needs as a
[21:42]
second responder, not a first responder.
[21:45]
and soon. So that's another update wants
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to provide as well. We'll provide more
[21:49]
as we kind of get that more of a final
[21:51]
plan and move that forward. So hopefully
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avoiding those extra capital costs that
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were not originally planned or budgeted.
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The final item that I'll get to before I
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future
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on that this was a countywide. We had to
[22:05]
upgrade, right? Correct. And and Warford
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can decide not to join that. So I
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understand yes we've looked at we don't
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have any ongoing lease or agreements as
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part of this tower. Uh so we can and
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I've already talked with the county to a
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degree. So the land uses this. Public
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works uses this. Parks and rec county
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uses this. By us backing out it will
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increase the cost to other users of the
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system. We haven't officially backed out
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yet. But again, uh really the emphasis
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on saving costs and and meeting our
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needs
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something prioritize and evaluate
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further
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>> substantial.
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I'm surprised that there other entities
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wouldn't be doing the same.
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they're all doing the same research that
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you're guys doing because
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>> so more to come on that but that's
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another big uh also avoidance I would
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say that we're looking at part of the
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uh the final item for the PGIs we also
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actually have been invited
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to submit a proposal for Draper city
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we recently learned that Draper city is
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evaluating
[23:16]
disbanding their in-house collection uh
[23:20]
and funding program for waste and
[23:23]
recycling. Uh they're planning to issue
[23:26]
an RFP. We don't know what those
[23:28]
services or what that scope entails.
[23:32]
But I also want to be very sensitive
[23:33]
that we're not actively
[23:35]
um
[23:38]
entering into competition with with
[23:40]
other so currently they're they're
[23:43]
providing the service as a public
[23:44]
service. And so we're looking at how
[23:47]
would we best issue a proposal and maybe
[23:50]
we
[23:52]
the opportunity to join the district
[23:54]
service area in submitting a competitive
[23:57]
proposal but wanted to update this this
[24:00]
body and see if there's any feedback or
[24:02]
thoughts. We still haven't seen them
[24:03]
post the RFP, but I do see as an
[24:06]
opportunity for us to potentially expand
[24:08]
our service area and um offset some of
[24:12]
the um
[24:15]
losses that we're likely to incur from
[24:17]
airman's active pursuit to the throw out
[24:19]
the organization, but also to maximize
[24:22]
the counties of scale and
[24:24]
bring on um some additional services for
[24:30]
any feedback or thoughts on that
[24:31]
approach, Again, we haven't seen RFP. We
[24:34]
don't know if it's targeting private
[24:35]
sector, but um a city manager we did
[24:38]
reach out and invited us to see.
[24:41]
>> I say continue on.
[24:44]
>> Sure.
[24:45]
>> I think each of those.
[24:46]
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, um and it makes
[24:49]
sense. I I mean, I would imagine that
[24:51]
the process would be different because
[24:53]
we aren't we aren't submitting like a
[24:55]
contract proposal. It would be more an
[24:56]
invitation to join the district. So, so
[25:00]
I was between you and Rachel figure out
[25:02]
the best copy to do that. But yeah, I
[25:03]
think that's fantastic. I'm good to
[25:06]
pursue.
[25:13]
» Well, I'll keep everyone informed as as
[25:16]
that would actually
[25:18]
likely go this way. So, on on the PGIs, a lot of these are
[25:24]
status updates. Some are not necessarily
[25:26]
tied to quantitative cost savings. Um
[25:30]
but we have you know continuing to move
[25:31]
forward on a lot of pieces. Uh one is is
[25:35]
the first one is the OG-2 organizational
[25:38]
initiative is looking at our charter
[25:41]
serviceability. So we are planning to
[25:43]
look at that and pursue that as we
[25:45]
discussed during January retreat. So
[25:47]
nothing major there on that front. uh
[25:50]
admin 1.1 we have um through Renee and
[25:54]
Hazel they've developed a first draft
[25:56]
employee handbook that will ultimately
[25:58]
consolidate over two dozen individual
[26:01]
SOP teams for streamlining our internal
[26:04]
uh processes and and make it easier for
[26:06]
staff myself or management team to
[26:09]
interpret and ultimately have a more
[26:12]
comprehensive central document that'll
[26:14]
be easier to maintain and update moving
[26:16]
forward.
[26:18]
Few other items on here
[26:22]
1.5.
[26:24]
Uh we have continued to really increase
[26:26]
our presentation and the way which we're
[26:30]
visualizing our data. Um we've got other
[26:33]
priorities that have kind of included
[26:35]
some of those initiative. But I think
[26:37]
the board is probably continually seen
[26:38]
some of the presentation materials are
[26:41]
um looking improved and enhancing that
[26:44]
capacity. We have a few items here.
[26:46]
We'll go through as well. Um, admin 2,
[26:49]
uh, we are actually looking at, um, we
[26:52]
we've cancelled that, um, withdrawal
[26:55]
impact feasibility study, but we have
[26:57]
actually moved forward with a financial
[27:00]
impacts analysis that we should have an
[27:03]
initial draft here by the end of this
[27:06]
month that appropriate final report by
[27:08]
mid June. We may look at some adding
[27:11]
some items to that, but that's something
[27:12]
that we wanted to look at from
[27:14]
independent food recovery analysis and
[27:15]
really helps better understand um the
[27:18]
potential or
[27:20]
identified impacts as part of the
[27:23]
ongoing discussions. Um Helen and I will
[27:26]
be working on a variet
[27:28]
and I will work on recycling processing
[27:30]
RFP. Hoping to get that out mid July
[27:33]
that's admin
[27:34]
three.
[27:36]
I'm going to skip through a couple. We
[27:38]
don't spend too much time on this.
[27:41]
Uh, admin 7 is is us looking at
[27:44]
comprehensively our uh, information
[27:47]
technology invoices and some of the
[27:49]
categories which we're getting build. U,
[27:52]
we've hidden a couple columns here, but
[27:54]
our January invoice was nearly $20,000.
[27:57]
Our April invoice was less than $18,000.
[28:01]
So, we're still identifying new cost
[28:04]
savings initiatives. Thus far, for this
[28:06]
year, we've identified nearly 22,000 in
[28:09]
savings. And for next year ongoing be
[28:12]
about 26,000 and that's anticipated to
[28:14]
continue to increase for us looking at
[28:17]
our IC related support from the county.
[28:21]
Uh admin 9 is a brand new item that
[28:24]
we're looking at basically everything.
[28:26]
So um admin 9 there's more information
[28:29]
some columns here on the screen. Um,
[28:34]
early on I noticed that nearly every one
[28:35]
of them since had its own individual
[28:38]
personal printer and so we took a really
[28:42]
hard look at those. Some of those
[28:43]
printers were color, some of those were
[28:44]
black and white. The color printer
[28:46]
buying new cartridges to replace those
[28:49]
was about $1,000 per printer. So, we've
[28:52]
actually consolidated and ultimately we
[28:55]
have taken out of service five of those
[28:58]
color printers.
[29:00]
We're still looking at a few of those,
[29:01]
but some of them we need for certain
[29:03]
functions within the organization and a
[29:04]
lot of them are either replaced with
[29:06]
black and white printers or we have a
[29:08]
main printer in our management printer
[29:11]
and we're working utilization of that.
[29:13]
So small amount, but we've basically
[29:16]
estimated about $5,000 this year and
[29:18]
then ongoing for savings of that. So
[29:24]
let's see a few things so I can uh the
[29:29]
line of source financial assessment and
[29:31]
I'll be working on that hope to get that
[29:32]
RFP out July or August. uh and and what
[29:36]
we're looking at it's likely that what
[29:38]
we budgeted for may not be enough. So,
[29:41]
we're going to need to evaluate that,
[29:42]
but we're tracking our financials in a
[29:44]
way that um I think it's it's readily um
[29:50]
I I could say that we're not going to
[29:51]
have to come back for amended budget
[29:52]
this year and we would come back for
[29:54]
amended budget if we were going to
[29:56]
exceed the original expenses. So, we'll
[29:59]
track that and and keep that um going as
[30:02]
well.
[30:04]
unless the I let more of these
[30:10]
um we're still looking at greenway
[30:11]
subscriptions. Our scrap program will
[30:14]
probably provide a more detailed update
[30:16]
next month um or or shortly thereafter
[30:19]
but on scrap this year we have as of May
[30:22]
8th have averaged 79 containers surfaced
[30:26]
per day which compared to previous years
[30:29]
was average of about 60 containers a
[30:31]
day. We are well above 25% increased
[30:34]
service this year alone. Um
[30:38]
very good on this graphic.
[30:40]
>> Are we seeing fewer complaints or any
[30:44]
more positive feedback from the
[30:45]
residents for this at all? Do we know?
[30:48]
>> It's a great question. I don't know
[30:49]
anything or you know we're playing the
[30:52]
central drop off event. We're doing
[30:55]
>> I would say it's it's mysteriously
[30:57]
quieter
[30:58]
than than historically been confused. So
[31:01]
I think that's a good thing.
[31:02]
>> It's a really good thing.
[31:04]
>> I think so. And I think I think with the new programs that we're offering,
[31:08]
right, the new the central drop off that
[31:12]
we're we're advertising for those cities
[31:15]
that
[31:19]
we are seeing some limited volatility in
[31:21]
our seasonal drivers. So I think we've
[31:23]
kind of dropped a couple. We're adding
[31:25]
more on as we can. Um I think right now
[31:27]
we're sitting around 12 or 11. Um we
[31:31]
originally hired a full team as part of
[31:33]
that but the team is really helping out
[31:36]
Ca the Scout program working with Dave
[31:38]
and many others. So it's done very well.
[31:40]
We're not looking at um adding
[31:42]
recruitments for backing some of those
[31:45]
seasonal drivers that have
[31:49]
but overall currently going extremely
[31:51]
well um as as a
[31:56]
let's see
[31:58]
op five operations
[32:02]
uh we have actually started a second can
[32:05]
arm
[32:06]
uh which we've done a limited degree in
[32:08]
the past right now um pretty good. So,
[32:11]
we kind of had to pause that. But
[32:13]
basically, we have some of our drivers
[32:14]
going around and looking for a second
[32:17]
out and we come back and make sure that
[32:19]
they're are they are they getting
[32:21]
drilled appropriately for um if we
[32:24]
identify that that they don't have a
[32:25]
second can of do a separate work order
[32:28]
and our container team goes out a second
[32:30]
time and verifies that that second can.
[32:34]
And so once that is completed, then we
[32:36]
actually uh add to the bill um and
[32:40]
correct the billing for those second
[32:41]
camps. We do find that some people say
[32:44]
they're building second can or vice
[32:45]
versa. But year to date uh what we've
[32:48]
identified is an additional 36,000 in
[32:51]
revenue as part of that initiative. Then
[32:53]
ongoing next year given people don't um
[32:56]
remove their second cam will be an
[32:58]
additional 46,000 in revenue. So that
[33:00]
number should continue to grow
[33:02]
throughout this calendar year as we get
[33:04]
back to the second cand.
[33:08]
» Yeah, that's huge. Do you know
[33:11]
>> like what how we got to that place? That
[33:13]
is that's
[33:15]
>> were they stealing cans from someone and
[33:17]
like I mean how are they getting these
[33:21]
>> I know some suspicions of maybe
[33:24]
so we got a lot of people that move
[33:27]
homes account changes
[33:31]
>> so in in the refunds that we we offer
[33:33]
and those are also checked by our car
[33:35]
team people call and say I don't I just
[33:36]
moved here but I don't have a second can
[33:39]
so potentially the neighbors take that
[33:40]
can when someone moves out or the former
[33:43]
homeowners take the can to their new
[33:45]
residents,
[33:46]
>> right? So the transition doesn't happen
[33:48]
and so cracking every one of them for
[33:51]
all of those would take a lot of time.
[33:54]
Uh but I always ask him like when this
[33:56]
refund they never have a can where it go
[34:00]
>> so it goes somewhere else somewhere
[34:01]
somehow.
[34:02]
>> Can you ship them?
[34:05]
>> Right chips but our drugs don't have the
[34:07]
arms of the readers. That is a
[34:09]
technology we could look at in the
[34:10]
future as well. And our drivers, you
[34:13]
know, have them collecting a thousand
[34:15]
cans a day to value every one of those
[34:18]
on the ground. So,
[34:21]
>> okay. So, how many total cans did you
[34:23]
find so far
[34:26]
>> that we're not billing for?
[34:27]
>> Well, we've added billing. So, 192 trash
[34:30]
cans, second cans.
[34:31]
>> Yeah.
[34:32]
>> Um 29 recycle cans and water.
[34:37]
And so that's you know equating to a
[34:39]
difference in monthly billing but the
[34:41]
chart was very hard to see on the the
[34:43]
far right hand side where we calculated
[34:44]
the the additional revenue we'll see
[34:46]
this year and then ongoing revenue for
[34:48]
202
[34:51]
so we'll continue to do
[34:55]
probably a lot more out there but sneaky
[34:58]
>> yeah
[34:59]
just
[35:01]
>> so that's a good one as well and then
[35:03]
final you just go to the the bottom line
[35:06]
rene the bottom. So when I first
[35:10]
introduced this and there's a lot of
[35:12]
times we we had savings up front but the
[35:15]
first published amounts where we showed
[35:17]
quantitative savings on March 18 and
[35:21]
originally was about 500,000 one time in
[35:24]
2026. So we increased that to about uh
[35:27]
close to 660,000 this year. So we
[35:29]
increased it by about 159,000.
[35:32]
ongoing for this year. That's identified
[35:35]
is again about 445,000. We've increased
[35:38]
that by roughly 250,000
[35:41]
since the initial PGIs were published in
[35:43]
March of early this year. And then we
[35:46]
discussed earlier the savings from
[35:50]
2025. We've carried over that 1.82 I
[35:54]
believe we've carried over a portion of
[35:56]
that that was further described in this
[35:58]
miscellaneous column. But 1.24 24 is
[36:00]
continuing ongoing savings. That's part
[36:03]
of that. So, so the upper area is what
[36:05]
we've identified this year. The bottom
[36:08]
area is what we've identified this year
[36:10]
plus the ongoing savings that we've
[36:12]
continued to realize from last year.
[36:15]
Those were riffs, relication positions,
[36:19]
optimizing routing, pricing proximity
[36:21]
models. And so this year our total one
[36:25]
time for this year's cost savings we're
[36:28]
almost at 1.9 million and then the
[36:31]
ongoing of those as we identify in these
[36:33]
columns we're close to uh 1.7 but we're
[36:36]
at 1.685. So we'll continue to update
[36:39]
these bring these back track these and further out with this cost savings.
[36:44]
We've not added in uh the video review
[36:47]
of reported miss pickup. So those will
[36:49]
be things we'll look at uh I think at
[36:51]
the end of June of the year as well. So
[36:54]
this will continue to evolve and we'll
[36:56]
continue to add and and documenting the
[36:59]
where we can quantify the cost savings
[37:01]
or throughout the year.
[37:03]
>> Fantastic.
[37:04]
>> Yeah. Impressive
[37:08]
job well done. Yeah, it's largely a huge
[37:11]
team out there and everyone is really
[37:13]
helping a variety of all of these.
[37:18]
>> That's all I have. Any questions?
[37:24]
» Yeah, really great. We're all everyone
[37:27]
pass
[37:30]
really really great.
[37:31]
>> All right, Helen
[37:33]
report. So first quarter 2026
[37:36]
um first slide we have as usual is our
[37:39]
revenues. They look about what we would
[37:40]
expect for this time of year we are a
[37:44]
little bit low on these revenues at the
[37:46]
bottom there and that is that is late
[37:48]
fees and as Adam said we have way late
[37:52]
fees for the last few months and we'll
[37:53]
continue for maybe another two months or
[37:55]
so. So that will remain just a little
[37:57]
bit low. Otherwise everything is what is
[38:01]
expected. So
[38:05]
there you have questions about this
[38:06]
slide.
[38:09]
Okay. Uh the next slide is our personnel
[38:12]
expenses and
[38:15]
um they look a little bit low but we
[38:17]
haven't started paying by 10
[38:21]
um yet scrap program when April June
[38:24]
come around
[38:26]
for that program. U miscellaneous
[38:29]
benefits includes employee awards and
[38:32]
tuition reimbursements. And we did have
[38:34]
the Apple award this year which was a
[38:36]
cash award for the first year. And so
[38:39]
that is paid out in February. And that's
[38:41]
why you see that 58% there um for
[38:44]
miscellaneous benefits that has been
[38:46]
spent for the year of the budget. But
[38:48]
that's why that's this year.
[38:52]
There any
[38:55]
comments on this slide?
[38:59]
Okay, next we have our other operating
[39:01]
expenses.
[39:03]
I see we spent about 21% so far this
[39:05]
year. Um, as I go down this list, things
[39:09]
are looking pretty much as expected.
[39:14]
We have our bank fees that are at 32%
[39:18]
um for the first quarter and we foresee
[39:20]
that continue to increase. established
[39:22]
budgeted and the anticipation that we
[39:24]
would charge that transaction fee that
[39:26]
we've decided not to charge this year.
[39:28]
So that'll give everyone a good idea of
[39:30]
where that is going forward since
[39:33]
um but you will obviously see increase
[39:37]
higher than what we would have otherwise
[39:39]
expected.
[39:41]
Let's see our professional services are
[39:44]
a little bit higher this year as well.
[39:46]
That's because we've had um you know a
[39:48]
little bit higher attorney fees and we
[39:50]
have engaged a lobbyist uh and so those
[39:53]
were anticipated
[39:56]
this year that we can budget for
[39:57]
especially the lobbyist. So that's why
[39:59]
that's just a little bit higher than
[40:00]
like around 25% which is what I was
[40:02]
expecting.
[40:07]
Other than that
[40:11]
that's about all I was going to comment
[40:12]
on your questions on this slide.
[40:17]
Okay.
[40:19]
Um moving on to the next slide. We have
[40:22]
our capital purchases. This is the exact
[40:24]
same thing that you were able to see
[40:26]
when we had the retrieve. It's the same
[40:29]
information. We have not had further
[40:31]
capital purchases since the retreat.
[40:33]
However, we do expect to get um some
[40:36]
trucks this this month. So, I think the
[40:39]
team will show managers capital
[40:41]
purchases and we'll be able to put those
[40:43]
in service
[40:46]
with this slide for this this particular
[40:48]
time.
[40:50]
of those we have encumbered
[40:55]
a little close to $2 million that will
[40:58]
paid out on those assets do come in a
[41:00]
lot of those trucks were ordered early
[41:02]
to middle of last year
[41:05]
and that's I point out to the next slide
[41:07]
that helps to explain some of the
[41:10]
returns
[41:13]
» okay and then the next slide is our cash
[41:16]
balances and you can see It's higher
[41:19]
than it's been for years with this
[41:21]
slide. Um, and I do want to remind you
[41:24]
as Evan just pointed out, we do have
[41:27]
encumbered money that hasn't been spent
[41:29]
yet for capital purchases that was
[41:30]
anticipated. Have those come in as
[41:33]
expected. Obviously, that cash balance
[41:35]
will be lower. Um, and then also monthly
[41:39]
billing. Monthly billing is boosting our
[41:41]
cash
[41:43]
balances coming forward. Prior to this,
[41:46]
in prior years, you would have seen a
[41:47]
lower balance because we would have just
[41:49]
filled in either March for the first
[41:51]
quarter and that cash started coming
[41:54]
yet, but we've gotten cash for the
[41:56]
January and February and seeing so
[42:00]
that's why we're seeing this. So when we pay for those trucks at the end
[42:05]
of the month that will drop down
[42:19]
» that boost our interest revenue which is
[42:20]
also
[42:21]
>> yes that and the next slide is our
[42:25]
refundies. Um I changed it a little bit.
[42:28]
And again, just a little boring Excel
[42:32]
table in here. Um, but we had $19,000 of
[42:36]
refunds for the first quarter of 2026.
[42:39]
Um, 19 customers overpaid, resulting in
[42:42]
$4,394
[42:44]
of refunds. We did have five people pay
[42:47]
closed accounts.
[42:49]
We had three contact us and say they
[42:52]
additional plan that they did not have.
[42:53]
We already discussed that we need that
[42:55]
to happen. Um, we did have 10 customers
[42:58]
who were paying legitimately and started
[43:01]
them late.
[43:04]
And so we refund them.
[43:08]
>> Um, we did have six people pay us an
[43:10]
error. They paid us to spend their
[43:12]
utility for possibly their mortgage.
[43:15]
That's
[43:17]
>> Yeah, that's $500. Looks like mortgages.
[43:20]
And then we have our home that was
[43:22]
demolished where we start looking for
[43:24]
state
[43:26]
service at that time. So even though
[43:31]
our 19,000 do we understand why people
[43:34]
are overpaid by such large amounts of
[43:40]
>> um you know honestly I think there are
[43:42]
several reasons. I think sometimes it's
[43:44]
a mistake. I think a lot of times people
[43:46]
do it on purpose. They're going to go on
[43:47]
vacation. They decide to pay in advance.
[43:50]
they don't have the data how much it's
[43:52]
actually going to be. Um we do have
[43:54]
people
[43:56]
I believe um who do it on purpose. I
[43:59]
think there are some people who kind of
[44:00]
give it a little bit of a savings um
[44:04]
they don't pay a little bit later they
[44:07]
come back and ask us for
[44:09]
that happen.
[44:13]
Yeah, administrator issue for us, but
[44:17]
we're in post. So,
[44:20]
all right. Uh, next we have our
[44:22]
maintenance costs.
[44:24]
This one shows how much our cost for
[44:27]
maintenance
[44:29]
order. We did anticipate part of it. We
[44:31]
had increases that we knew about from
[44:34]
county shop labor and I think everybody
[44:36]
knows that we use the county for our
[44:38]
maintenance. Um and our shop labor
[44:40]
increased and as well as cost of parts
[44:44]
maintenance and
[44:47]
um as noted here we had a quarterly week
[44:50]
meeting a working group that in an
[44:53]
endeavor to identify cost savings
[44:55]
measures and proactively identify areas
[44:57]
for improvement. We had the first one
[44:59]
was early just
[45:02]
and in the past we've met and the week
[45:06]
increases we can expect in the budget
[45:09]
that we
[45:11]
meeting with them and the details and
[45:14]
figure out
[45:17]
is that something you initiated?
[45:20]
>> Yes.
[45:22]
Correct. Yeah.
[45:25]
I'm assuming that once we start seeing
[45:27]
cost savings from that that will be
[45:28]
added to the GI
[45:30]
>> correct it is one of the categories are
[45:32]
going to be a little more difficult
[45:34]
in some cases but there is more of a
[45:38]
kind of a little discussion later on
[45:40]
this meeting's agenda as well so this
[45:42]
will be a good precursor to that
[45:45]
>> I appreciate strengthening that
[45:48]
relationship so we can
[45:52]
» okay Um, next slide is our fuel and
[45:55]
mileage. And in 2026, we're paying a
[45:59]
little bit more in fuel. You can see
[46:00]
that in 2025,
[46:02]
we pay quite a bit less in fuel from
[46:05]
2024. It's creeping up again. Of course,
[46:08]
we all know there are things going on
[46:10]
geogically. that are causing some
[46:12]
mistake.
[46:14]
But on miles driven at the table at the
[46:18]
very bottom where it says miles on the
[46:21]
right hand side, um we're about in line
[46:24]
with what we've had in past years. In
[46:26]
2025, we had driven 219,000 miles in
[46:29]
2026 so far, 223 almost 224,000 miles.
[46:35]
Um, but we did purchase some diesel
[46:37]
trucks instead of CNG. You can kind of
[46:39]
see a little bit about6
[46:42]
on the usage of fuel because of that
[46:46]
purchase and we'll see that more of
[46:47]
course as we go on
[46:49]
some diesel trucks coming in this work.
[46:52]
So are there questions, comments about
[46:56]
this?
[46:56]
>> So why more diesel trucks instead of the
[47:00]
CNG? Um the capital costs
[47:04]
have become a lot different. We're
[47:06]
seeing a Jeep trucks the cost increased
[47:09]
quite a bit and it was just
[47:11]
significantly less for us to go and just
[47:13]
the diesel trucks. And then we also had
[47:16]
um information that the diesel fuel
[47:19]
prices might start decreasing. Of course
[47:21]
that hasn't happened because as we
[47:23]
discussed there are other things at play
[47:25]
here that's going to help but we
[47:27]
anticipated cost for those. and also a
[47:31]
uh problem to resell value on CMG trucks
[47:34]
as well as we have more expensive to buy
[47:39]
things
[47:40]
>> and we can't get any money out of what
[47:42]
get minimal money.
[47:44]
>> Oh
[47:45]
>> yeah.
[47:45]
>> they're hard to sell.
[47:46]
>> Nobody wants them. But
[47:49]
>> I guess we need to start our own
[47:50]
biodiesel factory.
[47:54]
We
[47:54]
>> say something like that to Evan and
[47:56]
we're mixing it up.
[47:59]
That that is correct though the the
[48:01]
furnace price is is less but the resale
[48:03]
has been very challenging and you were
[48:05]
in your earlier house on the options of
[48:08]
these trucks but in order to fuel CG to
[48:10]
have an infrastructure and a lot of the
[48:13]
small teams or places that are trying to
[48:15]
run this don't have it yet. So wow, we
[48:18]
will be looking at this and you know we
[48:20]
actually attended a complete technology
[48:22]
conference earlier this month and
[48:25]
looking at things that I kind of
[48:26]
mentioned before this total cost of
[48:28]
ownership or TCO is kind of the
[48:30]
abbreviated action of of discussing that
[48:33]
but looking at the cost of diesel
[48:35]
compared to just the cost of CNG over
[48:37]
the the lifestyle of that truck. there
[48:40]
could be a break even point or that
[48:42]
makes it uh just file to continue to to
[48:46]
purchase CG moving forward. So we'll be
[48:49]
looking at that this year and for next
[48:50]
year as well and I think it still is
[48:53]
ready nowify our fleets to a degree as
[48:56]
well. Right now we'll be running about
[48:58]
four diesel trucks. We will have we're
[49:01]
adding about 12 to that
[49:04]
our scrap truck those are all diesel as
[49:06]
well.
[49:12]
That's all I have for you today.
[49:13]
>> Thank you so much, Helen, for you.
[49:17]
>> All right. Uh Renee, um we have a
[49:21]
presentation from Renee about uh
[49:23]
University of Utah Recycling Survey.
[49:26]
>> Yes. So, um so this happened actually
[49:29]
back in October of last year. Um we we
[49:32]
did a partnership with University of
[49:34]
Utah's Masters in Public Policy program
[49:37]
and um they sent out the survey request
[49:39]
to all of our residents via electronic
[49:42]
only. Um so it was email and pushed
[49:45]
through our app and we had um 4523
[49:49]
that completed the survey. So about
[49:52]
six%. It was actually double the
[49:55]
response there than it was in the prior
[49:57]
year's um recycle survey. So that was pretty good. Um so I'm just
[50:01]
going to go over a couple of the highle
[50:03]
findings that they that they found. Um
[50:06]
so what they found from the uh survey
[50:09]
was that 90% of our respondents said
[50:12]
recycling really is important to them.
[50:15]
Um and their confidence is high but
[50:17]
there's still key misunderstandings
[50:19]
which I think we we hear that you know
[50:21]
through when we go to councils when when
[50:23]
James is out speaking to you know our
[50:25]
schools you know specifically around uh
[50:28]
thin steel cans um plastic bags is still
[50:32]
a confusing topic. um glass, scrap
[50:37]
metal. So, those were those were some
[50:39]
key topics and and we're really excited
[50:41]
about this information because we're
[50:43]
able to use this with um with our
[50:45]
sustainability and um do a little more
[50:47]
education on on that, right? Um and
[50:51]
surprisingly, 37% of the respondents
[50:55]
felt confident that the recyclables are
[50:58]
actually being recycled. So, yeah. So,
[51:01]
and and I know Ellen and I just in a few
[51:03]
uh you know council meetings that we
[51:05]
recently have gone to folks actually
[51:07]
asked that question. They're like are
[51:09]
recycles actually being recycled? But
[51:11]
that gave us an opportunity to explain
[51:13]
yes they are. And um one of the things
[51:15]
we're excited about also in that new
[51:17]
seasonal container, you know, collection
[51:19]
program, you know, like the tires, those
[51:21]
are going to be recycled and used for
[51:24]
other items. Same with the mattresses.
[51:26]
And so it helps us divert more more
[51:28]
items away from the landfill. So, it
[51:30]
might be nice to include that in some of
[51:32]
the messaging for that program, too.
[51:35]
Yep. Good idea.
[51:38]
>> Been a couple of years since we heard
[51:40]
that, oh, China's not taking recyclables
[51:43]
anymore, so it's all going to the
[51:44]
landfill anyway. So, that's why there's
[51:46]
that perception out.
[51:52]
And then um most of the barriers that
[51:55]
the residents um that responded found
[51:57]
were what they felt were unclear or hard
[52:00]
to access information. So um what's
[52:03]
interesting is you know it leads into
[52:05]
the next bullet point which is they want
[52:07]
simple accessible uh guidance. You know
[52:10]
those those stickers that we put on our
[52:12]
recycle bins I think have really helped.
[52:15]
So they want more of that and and it's funny to me because I'm like oh my
[52:20]
gosh. So they they want, you know,
[52:23]
mobile scanning apps. And so that was a
[52:25]
key indicator to me that we're not
[52:27]
advertising our app that we have
[52:29]
>> as well as as we could. So again, this
[52:32]
was a great learning tool for us to know
[52:34]
um you know, what what to focus on. And
[52:37]
as you all recall from our our last
[52:39]
board meeting, you know, communication
[52:41]
was our was like our opening topic. And
[52:44]
um some I just wanted to give you all a
[52:45]
couple of things that we're working on
[52:47]
um from giving getting this information
[52:49]
and also um since the last board meeting
[52:52]
um you know we're looking at creating a
[52:56]
customer and communication playbook and
[52:58]
I'm about halfway done with that and
[53:00]
then I will review that and we'll just
[53:02]
uh then spread it you know throughout
[53:05]
the organization and some of those items
[53:07]
include um you know monthly uh social
[53:10]
posts that we can leave to the city that
[53:11]
it's easy for them to communicate
[53:14]
Um, let's see here. Uh, you know, some
[53:17]
of the topics that that we thought about
[53:19]
initially was like what really happens
[53:20]
to your recycling. Um, you know, top
[53:23]
contamination items, myth busting, and
[53:26]
then, um, quick visual recycle guides.
[53:28]
Just really starting to get some of that
[53:30]
stuff out there. And, um, and we've
[53:31]
learned that residents really like
[53:33]
videos. That was another thing from, um,
[53:35]
you know, our our board meeting, one of
[53:37]
our talk talking sessions that that we
[53:40]
learned. And so um so we're gonna have a
[53:42]
few stars within the organization. We
[53:44]
just don't know yet. So so I think we'll
[53:47]
have fun with that. But um but yeah, so
[53:49]
this is a great segue I think into um
[53:52]
some information that James is still
[53:53]
going to share with you next because uh
[53:56]
he he does an excellent job of giving
[53:57]
out the community, the schools and and
[54:00]
um so we're just we're just going to
[54:01]
focus on that a little bit more over
[54:03]
this next year and just just really, you
[54:04]
know, give those those uh those
[54:06]
playbooks out to our cities to make it
[54:08]
easy for them.
[54:10]
Thank you so much. Remy, did did the
[54:12]
University of Utah reach out to us? Did
[54:14]
we reach out to them? How was this set
[54:16]
up?
[54:16]
>> So, they reached out to us. Um, yeah, it
[54:19]
was it was actually through Pam because
[54:20]
Pam had um had graduated from their M's
[54:23]
program. So, she's part of the alumni
[54:25]
and um so then um I went ahead and
[54:28]
partnered with the leader over there in
[54:29]
the research group and yeah, it was
[54:31]
excellent where they they did this whole
[54:33]
report and it was it was great.
[54:35]
>> This is fantastic.
[54:36]
>> It didn't cost us anything. No, it is
[54:39]
really
[54:41]
so much
[54:41]
>> and they presented to us at one point
[54:43]
which was a really insightful as to
[54:46]
their results. But this report which is
[54:48]
somewhat lengthy is on our website as
[54:50]
well and also the presentation to go
[54:55]
over this group is also
[54:58]
>> great.
[54:59]
On that note James there
[55:04]
is going to talk about um waste
[55:07]
diversion and recycling analytics.
[55:10]
>> Awesome.
[55:11]
>> Yeah.
[55:11]
>> Uh thanks for having me everybody. Uh
[55:14]
James I've met some of you in the past
[55:15]
but there's some great faces here. Um
[55:18]
I've been with the organization for
[55:20]
about 11 years for about
[55:26]
um so today I'm just going to go over
[55:28]
our waste diversion efforts and
[55:30]
recycling an analytics. uh basically to
[55:33]
um highlight um our districtwide
[55:36]
recycling, green waste, glass recycling
[55:40]
efforts, contamination reduction
[55:42]
efforts, outreach.
[55:48]
Skip this slide.
[55:51]
Yeah. So, um, my purpose with this
[55:54]
report is basically just to provide a
[55:56]
year-end overview of our waste diversion
[55:59]
efforts for 2025,
[56:02]
um, and our contamination reduction
[56:04]
efforts. Um, and we'll use this to track
[56:07]
and monitor Congress with sustainability
[56:11]
goals
[56:12]
forward.
[56:14]
Um, I want to highlight some of the
[56:16]
environmental and financial impacts that
[56:18]
these waste diversion opportunities
[56:20]
provide us. Um, and also share some
[56:23]
insight into what markets are doing as
[56:27]
far as
[56:35]
all right. So, um, some of the benefits
[56:37]
of waste diversion, I'm sure you've all
[56:39]
heard them before, but they bear
[56:41]
repeating. Um, provides several
[56:45]
benefits. Um, recycling and composting
[56:48]
first and foremost reduces our need for
[56:50]
virgin uh uh materials and consumes
[56:54]
natural resources. Um, it also reduces
[56:57]
greenhouse gas emissions associated with
[57:00]
bi manufacturing.
[57:03]
Um, it also preserves landfill air space
[57:07]
and extends the life lands by diverting
[57:10]
those materials from new lands.
[57:12]
uh sources and then lastly supports a
[57:16]
circular economy by reintroducing those
[57:19]
materials back um back into production
[57:23]
essentially.
[57:27]
Um all that sounds great but um I think
[57:31]
putting some actual numbers and
[57:33]
statistics with our recycling efforts is
[57:35]
valuable. This has been well received by
[57:38]
each community that we share this with.
[57:40]
Um throughout the year we conduct
[57:43]
regular samples that give us an idea as
[57:45]
to what materials are coming into the
[57:47]
recycling plant. Uh we have a monitoring
[57:50]
breakdown. We conduct the sorts monthly
[57:53]
to give us that breakdown. Um and we can
[57:56]
use total tonnages to estimate the tages
[57:59]
of uh each commodity. We then use uh the
[58:03]
EPA RAM model to estimate total resource
[58:07]
savings. So looking at total tendage
[58:10]
over recycling is impressive but to the
[58:15]
tangible
[58:17]
savings
[58:18]
on the board I think definitely makes it
[58:20]
that bigger impact. So using the warm
[58:23]
climate model, we estimate a reduction
[58:25]
of about 219,000
[58:27]
matured tons, a reduction of 92 million
[58:30]
gallons of water,
[58:33]
uh 50,324
[58:36]
metric tons of greenhouse gas reduction,
[58:41]
864 megawatt.
[58:44]
>> That's just for last year.
[58:46]
>> This is just for last year. And this is
[58:48]
districtwide. We can't break this down
[58:50]
into each uh municipality. Um as well
[58:53]
using that same model. The EDA also has
[58:56]
a high
[58:58]
break down individual
[59:01]
impact. So for your rec.
[59:12]
So looking at our diversion rate uh
[59:15]
across Wboard um unfortunately we were
[59:19]
down in 2025 to 17.98%
[59:22]
a little bit below our 2% version goal
[59:26]
um however it is a small amount 39% 204
[59:31]
and we're seeing a tiny reduction across
[59:35]
almost every metric as far as rapid use
[59:37]
recyclable glass and green waste is the
[59:40]
only exception. uh we did see a
[59:42]
significant increase in time on our
[59:44]
Christmas tree up to 36 tons.
[59:47]
>> So why do you think there is a drop in
[59:50]
holocaust?
[59:52]
>> I speculate that it's a wider consumer
[59:56]
sentiment
[59:58]
situation. Maybe people are consuming
[1:00:00]
lesser behaviors or changing with
[1:00:02]
people. Um that would be my speculation
[1:00:06]
as far as it as that goes. We're still
[1:00:08]
seeing
[1:00:10]
centers.
[1:00:14]
You know, we're at about 19,000 tons of
[1:00:16]
recycle
[1:00:18]
expensive glass, but it's
[1:00:22]
a little less
[1:00:26]
interesting.
[1:00:31]
» And then this is uh diversion rates by
[1:00:33]
cities. Um
[1:00:36]
you know that uh diversion increases as
[1:00:38]
resources are available. Uh more
[1:00:41]
recycling cans, more green waste cans,
[1:00:44]
glass recycling cans are obviously going
[1:00:46]
to lead to higher diversion rates within
[1:00:48]
the city. Um
[1:00:51]
as we work to expand knowledge of our
[1:00:54]
programs under green program
[1:00:58]
hopefully we will regional distance and
[1:01:01]
increase diversion across all
[1:01:03]
municipalities
[1:01:05]
um and education and outreach will be a
[1:01:07]
big part of
[1:01:09]
achieving that goal. But if we look at
[1:01:12]
that chart on the right, the diversion
[1:01:14]
rate by city, there are two things I
[1:01:17]
want to point out. Uh, I immigration
[1:01:19]
canyon does have a extremely high
[1:01:21]
diverging rate and Brighton is not
[1:01:24]
listed on there.
[1:01:25]
>> Yeah.
[1:01:25]
>> The reason is uh we collect front
[1:01:27]
containers for them. We doesn't break
[1:01:30]
out the total image from our front
[1:01:33]
program. So if we take the found program
[1:01:36]
and incorporate it in there
[1:01:38]
from multiple other locations and really
[1:01:41]
squeeze that data, it's extremely high.
[1:01:44]
So I just wanted to
[1:01:47]
certain simple.
[1:01:49]
>> Thanks for
[1:01:55]
slide to the next one. Okay. Um
[1:01:59]
recycling tipping fees. Uh one major
[1:02:02]
thing uh that stands out that we uh have
[1:02:04]
been struggling with or did struggle
[1:02:06]
with in 2005 was increased to the fees
[1:02:09]
overall despite the fact that
[1:02:11]
opportunities just were down uh
[1:02:13]
year-over-year.
[1:02:14]
Um
[1:02:16]
one of the contributing factors to that
[1:02:18]
is well the main contributing factor to
[1:02:20]
that is uh processing fees due to uh
[1:02:24]
recycling markets. Um, and that really
[1:02:27]
shows in quarter three and quarter four
[1:02:30]
2025.
[1:02:32]
Um,
[1:02:33]
our recycling tipping fees based off of
[1:02:37]
the market value of the products that
[1:02:39]
we're bringing in, how much of each
[1:02:41]
product we're bringing in, and then also
[1:02:43]
our
[1:02:45]
contamination rates.
[1:02:48]
So we are trying to address the
[1:02:51]
recycling uh difficulties that we have
[1:02:54]
through uh addressing contamination with
[1:02:56]
our quality assurance team uh education
[1:02:59]
and outreach driving participation in
[1:03:01]
reporting contaminated hands out tag. So
[1:03:04]
I'll dig into that just a little bit
[1:03:06]
later.
[1:03:09]
Go to the next slide. So these are um
[1:03:13]
our monthly tipping fees at each
[1:03:16]
material recovery facility. Uh we can
[1:03:19]
see in March waste management standard
[1:03:22]
$20266
[1:03:24]
a ton. We saw significant increases over
[1:03:27]
time almost up to $80 towards the end of
[1:03:30]
the year.
[1:03:32]
Rocky Mountain recycling was a little
[1:03:34]
more consistent. Uh we were at a low in
[1:03:37]
the beginning of the year in May at
[1:03:39]
$3021.
[1:03:41]
Folks on increase up to just under $65
[1:03:44]
by December. So we're following similar
[1:03:49]
but
[1:03:50]
definitely an increase again
[1:03:54]
processing fees for
[1:03:59]
jump to the next slide. Uh these are all
[1:04:02]
the materials that are accepted from the
[1:04:04]
different groups and their uh value
[1:04:08]
rebate that we get. Um as we can see uh
[1:04:12]
our most predominant um resource being
[1:04:16]
fibers cardboard uh to be a significant
[1:04:19]
decrease from 2024
[1:04:24]
has slid22
[1:04:28]
trending down.
[1:04:31]
Uh metal markets maintained pretty
[1:04:34]
healthy status throughout the year. Not
[1:04:38]
too much of a change there, but a big
[1:04:40]
problem we have with plastics. Uh we can
[1:04:43]
see a a sharp increase on the HD
[1:04:48]
on order two. Those are like clear.
[1:04:52]
Uh those are our most valuable.
[1:04:55]
They can be red. So they have a high
[1:04:58]
value. They they dropped
[1:05:01]
four as well as our PET plastics which
[1:05:04]
is like this plastic water bottles or so
[1:05:06]
bottles and also color HP about that
[1:05:10]
same time I bought
[1:05:16]
» is it generally that
[1:05:20]
» from from what I've seen yes but again
[1:05:24]
>> several years back looking forward into
[1:05:27]
this year we have seen that booing
[1:05:30]
again. So, but we do have more
[1:05:35]
oil.
[1:05:38]
>> Makes sense.
[1:05:40]
>> Slide to the next one.
[1:05:43]
So, these are just a quick overview of
[1:05:45]
the results that we've seen from our
[1:05:47]
sorts um at both conservable recovery
[1:05:50]
facilities. Uh Rocky Mountain Recycling
[1:05:53]
uh is where we take the majority of our
[1:05:55]
material. We conducted 71 sample sorts
[1:05:57]
with Rocky Mountain recycling. Um and
[1:06:00]
these were the findings that we had for
[1:06:04]
saw slight increase in our app.
[1:06:09]
Um and paper remained about the same.
[1:06:11]
This is in form with me slightly.
[1:06:16]
uh we did see a decrease at both mers of
[1:06:18]
HDP natural and color possibly
[1:06:21]
indicating a change in
[1:06:26]
a big thing I wanted to highlight here
[1:06:27]
is our residual waste on the bottom we
[1:06:29]
saw decrease 2024
[1:06:33]
uh down to 18.5% so a decrease of 1.48%
[1:06:36]
for 8%.
[1:06:40]
We jump to the next one.
[1:06:43]
Looking at waste management. Again,
[1:06:44]
similar trends. an increase in cardboard
[1:06:47]
indicating a more fiber richching
[1:06:51]
paper remaining about the same and
[1:06:53]
slight decreases with our HT
[1:06:56]
and PT
[1:07:00]
waste management significant decrease in
[1:07:03]
trash down 8.57%
[1:07:08]
and attributing this to
[1:07:12]
reach participation
[1:07:16]
So that's great.
[1:07:18]
Just next one.
[1:07:21]
Um these this is just a year-over-year
[1:07:23]
change in our contamination rates for
[1:07:25]
Rocky Mountain Recycling.
[1:07:27]
Since 2022, we've seen a 7.37%
[1:07:30]
decrease year-over-year. We're down to
[1:07:33]
18.05% for Rock Mountain below our 20%
[1:07:36]
goal. Um which is great news. And we're
[1:07:39]
seeing that reduction across every
[1:07:41]
scalpy take.
[1:07:48]
The next one uh waste management. We're
[1:07:50]
seeing similar trends. We're down in
[1:07:52]
contamination.
[1:07:56]
However, I do want to highlight we've
[1:07:57]
only conducted nine sample source waste
[1:08:00]
management. much smaller pool than
[1:08:04]
unfortunately but we're still seeing a
[1:08:06]
major decrease in 77 8% and again
[1:08:10]
decrease across every municipality that
[1:08:12]
take
[1:08:14]
materials to dispatch
[1:08:17]
so we're seeing excellent excellent
[1:08:24]
and then this is just districtwide this
[1:08:27]
is a combination of all sound sorts down
[1:08:30]
to 19% below our 20
[1:08:34]
for the year. Um, and this was across 80
[1:08:37]
sound resorts for the entire year.
[1:08:40]
Again,
[1:08:42]
Taylor'sville was a unique situation
[1:08:44]
because we're taking some material from
[1:08:45]
Taylorville to Rocky Mountain, some to
[1:08:48]
waste management even when we still
[1:08:52]
so awesome, awesome work. And James, let
[1:08:56]
me just add in briefly. So if a load
[1:08:58]
comes in, there's contamination after
[1:09:00]
the motors, everything that's acceptable
[1:09:03]
that's that's clean and that's that's
[1:09:06]
intended and targeted for recycling is
[1:09:08]
still getting recovered and ultimately
[1:09:10]
recycled at these facilities. So the
[1:09:13]
contamination is basically the
[1:09:14]
proportion of materials that are not
[1:09:17]
recoverable for recycling or that are
[1:09:20]
otherwise not hard to capture as part of
[1:09:24]
the recycling process. So waste
[1:09:26]
management they had different
[1:09:27]
categories. So like the fines that's
[1:09:29]
things that are really small like two
[1:09:32]
three inch minus materials that fall
[1:09:33]
through the conveyor system on sorting
[1:09:36]
criteria and so forth. Uh contamination
[1:09:39]
the lower we have
[1:09:42]
part of these these composition audits.
[1:09:44]
There's a a running average for each of
[1:09:46]
our our largely our partner cities and
[1:09:50]
the cost is is a function of the monthly
[1:09:54]
commodity market values and then the
[1:09:57]
rate in which they've identified the
[1:09:59]
contamination or residue rate is offset
[1:10:02]
as part of it. So all these countries
[1:10:04]
are a base processing fee minus the
[1:10:07]
rebates based on our material
[1:10:08]
composition for the values of those
[1:10:10]
materials but then they add back in that
[1:10:13]
residual cost as well. So as
[1:10:15]
contamination goes down that ultimately
[1:10:17]
saves money across the entire district
[1:10:20]
and reduces those overall.
[1:10:31]
So um uh our efforts to reduce that
[1:10:35]
contamination uh is based mostly off of
[1:10:37]
our less tag program. Uh this is headed
[1:10:41]
by our quality assurance inspector um as
[1:10:44]
well as our drivers. Our drivers come
[1:10:45]
from crosscontamination but goal is to
[1:10:47]
address it.
[1:10:51]
Uh we don't want the roof capturing
[1:10:54]
those materials um especially during our
[1:10:56]
rentals that affect the prices that will
[1:10:59]
stay. Uh we've had a lot of buying with
[1:11:02]
our drivers this year. We've had a total
[1:11:03]
of 2,648 reports from drivers.
[1:11:10]
Uh which is about 221 every single
[1:11:12]
month.
[1:11:13]
>> What does that actually look like? And
[1:11:15]
how are the drivers? I guess I I'm
[1:11:17]
seeing the the closed lids as I drive
[1:11:19]
down the street. Like how do they
[1:11:21]
usually identify that?
[1:11:22]
>> So um these include uh this does include
[1:11:25]
reports for cans at the curb. There are
[1:11:28]
some reports for cans that have been
[1:11:30]
dumped. So, our drivers can't see um
[1:11:33]
this open obviously, but they also have
[1:11:35]
cameras with facing to the hopper. So,
[1:11:37]
if they dump a can that has uh this is
[1:11:39]
common, unfortunately, a bunch of
[1:11:42]
cardboard and a very bottom green list
[1:11:44]
where it's being once they dump the can,
[1:11:47]
they can see it in the in the camera.
[1:11:49]
They'll still report this. Um after it's
[1:11:52]
been reported, we update the account.
[1:11:54]
Our quality assurance team follows up on
[1:11:56]
every
[1:11:58]
um so once they have that address the
[1:12:01]
following week they'll go to see if the
[1:12:03]
contamination's been addressed. If it
[1:12:06]
hasn't they'll tack again and report it
[1:12:08]
again.
[1:12:10]
If it is contaminated follow the same
[1:12:12]
process the next week. On that third
[1:12:14]
week, we'll issue a final notice of
[1:12:17]
compliance as well. It just basically
[1:12:20]
stating that uh continued contamination
[1:12:23]
will have.
[1:12:24]
Uh we last year were pulling the
[1:12:26]
container for.
[1:12:31]
So once they received that final notice
[1:12:34]
also reached out via email to inform
[1:12:36]
them the days of contamination pictures
[1:12:41]
guys to try to address it sacrifice just
[1:12:43]
any resources to try to solve the issue.
[1:12:47]
Um but as we can see with that tab uh
[1:12:50]
installation
[1:12:53]
for for the most part addressing the
[1:12:55]
demand with span fix the problem
[1:13:00]
about 22% down the second time that
[1:13:03]
continues to go down as we continue to
[1:13:06]
follow reach out try
[1:13:10]
of the 2,600 it did end up about 47 of
[1:13:14]
those after contact Maybe
[1:13:23]
» when when you interact with people it's
[1:13:26]
just interesting to me the number of
[1:13:28]
people who are continuing like that
[1:13:30]
second and third what's their is it an
[1:13:32]
attitude issue if you were to recycle
[1:13:34]
they just don't seem to care what what's
[1:13:38]
>> some of it is yeah
[1:13:39]
>> some of it is um I think some of it is
[1:13:41]
also um
[1:13:44]
I think
[1:13:45]
I I hate to say this, but we have a we
[1:13:49]
have a broad base and a small crew to
[1:13:52]
follow up and I think that some people
[1:13:54]
have been over time that that they're
[1:13:56]
getting away with this. So maybe if they
[1:13:59]
get tech first time
[1:14:02]
I think the mentality sometimes is well
[1:14:04]
I got five years I'll just continue
[1:14:07]
and I think uh we're seeing a lot of
[1:14:10]
results from having consistent followup
[1:14:13]
on specific address
[1:14:25]
» and sometimes unfortunately people do
[1:14:27]
use recycle can as their overflow.
[1:14:30]
>> Okay,
[1:14:30]
>> that's where we're
[1:14:32]
>> see more of that.
[1:14:37]
» Um, and these are some great examples of that. Um, our quality assurance uh
[1:14:44]
team member Kevin was in here earlier. I
[1:14:46]
just want to shine a light on what he's
[1:14:48]
doing for this program. Um, he checked
[1:14:51]
3,56
[1:14:53]
containers last year himself. Um, he's
[1:14:56]
very busy. This is the in addition to
[1:14:58]
other things that he's doing. Um but uh
[1:15:02]
of these we we do have some examples of
[1:15:05]
each type of contaminant that we're
[1:15:07]
running across. We do have the Star Wars
[1:15:10]
common uh wood and food waste, glass,
[1:15:14]
green waste, styrofoam, scrap metal,
[1:15:16]
trash, as was saying I think does make
[1:15:19]
it way into the recycle can especially
[1:15:21]
that garbage can's full or if it's been
[1:15:23]
empty and I have a bunch of trash
[1:15:25]
outside. I'm not going to go into I
[1:15:28]
think it's metal
[1:15:30]
and plastic bags and
[1:15:33]
at this point I do want to reiterate but
[1:15:35]
these if any of these make their way
[1:15:37]
into the recycling truck they are
[1:15:40]
yeah they are pulling out that
[1:15:42]
contamination by hand that's
[1:15:45]
the good products are still
[1:15:52]
all right moving into green list Um our
[1:15:57]
green waste uh diversion program has has
[1:16:00]
shown a lot of success over the years.
[1:16:04]
Um our green tipping fees remain about
[1:16:08]
48% lower
[1:16:10]
tes were items sent to land on that
[1:16:14]
our transfer station.
[1:16:19]
Um where green green waste fees are
[1:16:21]
remaining consistent year-over-year
[1:16:23]
about $17.
[1:16:25]
Uh green waste is great because it uh
[1:16:28]
diverts materials from the landfill,
[1:16:30]
saves land airspace, reduces the
[1:16:32]
emissions uh methane emissions at the
[1:16:34]
landfill and uh distributes that
[1:16:37]
circular economy. Uh Salt Lake County
[1:16:40]
captures that uh they compost it and
[1:16:43]
they redistribute a as a highrade
[1:16:46]
compost back to the community. So that's
[1:16:48]
fantastic.
[1:16:50]
>> Um, we accomplished just under 6,000
[1:16:53]
tons of green waste last year.
[1:16:56]
See at the top of that far right bar, a
[1:16:59]
total tipping fees uh paid for green
[1:17:01]
waste is 101,698.
[1:17:05]
If we were to dump uh that same 6,000
[1:17:08]
tons of green waste um at one of those
[1:17:10]
transfer stations um it would have been
[1:17:13]
significant. We actually reduce activity
[1:17:15]
fees by around
[1:17:18]
so it's a great resource environmentally
[1:17:22]
cost saving.
[1:17:24]
We're also seeing more buying from
[1:17:26]
residents. Um that bottom number I don't
[1:17:29]
explain that but we had 11,824
[1:17:33]
residents last year or sorry 2024 and we
[1:17:36]
bumped up to 12,000 by 2025. I hope that
[1:17:40]
we can really get some this program.
[1:17:44]
It's the page number that stamps on the
[1:17:50]
» Okay.
[1:17:53]
» Uh glass recycling is also um been very
[1:17:56]
beneficial for us environmental and cost
[1:17:58]
saving companies. Um we do not incer any
[1:18:01]
tipping fees for glass recent recycling.
[1:18:05]
Uh last year we recycled 83616
[1:18:09]
tons. uh and by recycling that through
[1:18:12]
momentum avoiding those fees, we reduced
[1:18:14]
spending fees by about $30,000
[1:18:17]
uh for 2021.
[1:18:19]
Um glass is great. Uh not only does it
[1:18:22]
save airspace um and support a circular
[1:18:26]
uh recycling economy, know you recycle
[1:18:29]
forever. Um so it's it's definitely
[1:18:31]
something that we want to continue to
[1:18:33]
capture as much as possible.
[1:18:36]
um from 2022 to 2025. I I think this
[1:18:39]
number really drives it home for me, but
[1:18:41]
a reduction of $12,000
[1:18:44]
into pieces of glass alone. So that's
[1:18:47]
great.
[1:18:48]
Um we did see a slight decrease from
[1:18:52]
2014
[1:18:53]
glass container subscribers 2024,
[1:18:57]
946
[1:19:00]
58 people. of this time
[1:19:06]
» and effective June 1st I believe kind of
[1:19:10]
tracking but momentum glass they're
[1:19:13]
opening routes for curbside services in
[1:19:15]
both permanence and in
[1:19:18]
so that will increase for us it's a pass
[1:19:22]
through we support the administrative
[1:19:24]
billing side of the momentum elections
[1:19:27]
but all the central sites that's another
[1:19:28]
thing that that Kevin does our QA
[1:19:31]
being most of those those last as well
[1:19:35]
or the public.
[1:19:44]
Sorry guys, I'm trying to
[1:19:47]
uh use cart recycling um was something
[1:19:49]
that we started last year with Rocky
[1:19:51]
Mountain Recycling. any containers that
[1:19:53]
were broken and not fit, we uh found a
[1:19:57]
good resource to recycle those out of
[1:20:00]
the landfill. So, our first department
[1:20:02]
was collecting broken cans, stripping
[1:20:05]
the metal axles and recycling those
[1:20:07]
separately and then stacking those cans
[1:20:09]
and putting them in a 53 trailer. That
[1:20:12]
trailer was collected and all we brought
[1:20:15]
in recycling. So, we didn't any
[1:20:17]
transportation fees for those parts.
[1:20:19]
They also offered us rebates for free
[1:20:22]
for those parts throughout the year. So,
[1:20:25]
um we recycled an
[1:20:28]
we recycle an additional 86 tons of HDP
[1:20:31]
plastic for the year and reduced uh
[1:20:34]
ticket fees by $4,396
[1:20:37]
with that.
[1:20:39]
It's a great program.
[1:20:44]
Then uh Christmas tree collection uh the only stream that we saw increases in
[1:20:49]
our tonnage but um we went from 27.11
[1:20:55]
tons to 24 um up 8.88 tons to 35.99 tons
[1:21:01]
for 25 and we saw an increase of
[1:21:05]
reservations of about 435.
[1:21:09]
Yeah. So, we're getting some traction as
[1:21:11]
far as um people being aware of these
[1:21:13]
programs. Again, to Rene's point and uh
[1:21:15]
being more consistent with our outreach
[1:21:17]
and having a strategy to make residents
[1:21:20]
aware of this program
[1:21:22]
for the long success of piece. Um all of
[1:21:25]
our trees that are collected this way
[1:21:27]
are sent to tree for mulch for my horse.
[1:21:33]
Awesome. Um but they also cost us a lot
[1:21:36]
less. So each load that we take to
[1:21:38]
diamond tree is a $25 flat.
[1:21:42]
We took seven loads uh compared to uh
[1:21:46]
dumping at a landfill about $36 per time
[1:21:49]
at 36 tons. We reduced costs by $36.
[1:21:56]
So awesome.
[1:22:00]
» All right. And then uh community
[1:22:02]
outreach and engagement. I've been uh
[1:22:04]
working with each community uh and
[1:22:06]
trying to get to as many schools as
[1:22:08]
possible. 2025 we ended the year as some
[1:22:11]
schools visited with 18 separate
[1:22:13]
classrooms and 427 students. Um there's
[1:22:17]
been a big push this year. Um I far
[1:22:19]
exceeded this number already for the
[1:22:21]
year. So look forward to writing those
[1:22:24]
details later. Uh public events. Uh we attended 26 total events in six
[1:22:32]
parades reaching about 1350 individual
[1:22:35]
residents.
[1:22:36]
I do want to pause there as we roll into
[1:22:39]
uh community outreach season. I know
[1:22:40]
every start having events. I did leave
[1:22:44]
some cards over there if you miss
[1:22:50]
that.
[1:22:51]
Um, I did attend six community council
[1:22:54]
meetings and presented uh some of this
[1:22:56]
information just to align your local
[1:22:59]
sustainability goals with what is doing
[1:23:03]
to achieve those. And then social media
[1:23:06]
outreach. We reached about 72,380
[1:23:09]
users from 46 social media groups 61.
[1:23:17]
And
[1:23:19]
um these are some of the uh hand guides
[1:23:22]
that um we put together this year with
[1:23:25]
help from Evans Genesis
[1:23:28]
went on weeks just to get beat. Um the
[1:23:31]
goal was to create something uniform and
[1:23:34]
something that plainly spells out what
[1:23:36]
is accepted at the material recovery
[1:23:38]
facilities or the previous.
[1:23:41]
Um we did include in the non-accepted
[1:23:43]
items items that were running into
[1:23:45]
consistently or high infusion items, but
[1:23:48]
we also wanted to provide a resource for
[1:23:50]
people to uh use to dispose of those
[1:23:52]
items. So if you scan that QR code to
[1:23:55]
recycle material, um all of those items
[1:23:58]
do have recycling options listed on just
[1:24:02]
the residents have to physically take
[1:24:04]
those materials there.
[1:24:09]
The next one is just a quick example of
[1:24:12]
some of the things we uh went through
[1:24:14]
social media. Again, these are just uh
[1:24:17]
holiday themed guides um
[1:24:21]
common issues that were facing like bag
[1:24:23]
materials,
[1:24:25]
dispelling of some myths or programs
[1:24:27]
that were working like that and then
[1:24:30]
also highlighting some of the services
[1:24:32]
that were
[1:24:35]
prior to the event. And then also
[1:24:37]
results after the event that just keeps
[1:24:40]
as soon
[1:24:51]
» Yeah. So these are key takeaways and
[1:24:55]
summaries. Uh do you guys have any
[1:24:57]
questions for me?
[1:25:00]
I'm trying to hurry.
[1:25:01]
>> You're trying really good.
[1:25:04]
It is really helpful to see uh see all that you're doing, all that we're
[1:25:09]
doing. Um the ways that we're
[1:25:11]
continually trying to engage with the
[1:25:13]
communities around us and just it just
[1:25:16]
makes me happy to see all the good that
[1:25:19]
we're doing.
[1:25:22]
» Any other questions or comments?
[1:25:26]
All right. Um thank you so much
[1:25:30]
again. Appreciate appreciate you. Um
[1:25:45]
This is always challenging morning.
[1:25:49]
>> It's thermostat.
[1:25:55]
» Um, all right. Helen, uh, one of our 4.5
[1:26:00]
authorization to withdraw properties.
[1:26:03]
final 2026 May
[1:26:06]
I think everybody knows that we once a
[1:26:09]
year we use new track
[1:26:14]
that is where we send to the county and
[1:26:16]
they add property tax
[1:26:19]
property taxes and of course we get our
[1:26:21]
money back there's 8% administrative
[1:26:24]
charge for that as well um but they
[1:26:27]
every year they send us a letter asking
[1:26:29]
us to um authorization to withdraw
[1:26:33]
properties from the final tax sale for
[1:26:36]
2026.
[1:26:37]
And every year we do ask the chair to
[1:26:40]
sign that letter. And what it's saying
[1:26:42]
is basically, you know, don't force a
[1:26:45]
sale on somebody's home because they owe
[1:26:46]
us $500. That's basically what it is.
[1:26:49]
Um, and so
[1:26:52]
that's what it is.
[1:26:55]
>> Any questions, concerns before I sign
[1:26:59]
this?
[1:27:01]
>> Okay. I think I think we're good.
[1:27:04]
>> All right. Um
[1:27:07]
>> Oh, do a formal approval.
[1:27:10]
>> So request letter
[1:27:12]
sign as board chair this next page here.
[1:27:16]
>> This is the letter. So we need to do a
[1:27:18]
motion then.
[1:27:19]
>> Yeah. To approve
[1:27:22]
the
[1:27:24]
>> request.
[1:27:26]
>> All right. Uh, can I get a motion to
[1:27:28]
approve the allowable of what is it
[1:27:32]
allow for the withdrawal of properties
[1:27:34]
>> right from the tax sale tax bill?
[1:27:39]
» Second.
[1:27:42]
All in favor?
[1:27:44]
>> I.
[1:27:45]
>> Any oppose?
[1:27:48]
All right. Okay. Uh, that is approved.
[1:27:52]
Um, and then 4.6. Um just really
[1:27:56]
briefly, this is something that we were
[1:27:57]
trying to get to in um our board
[1:28:00]
retreat. Um we still would like um to uh
[1:28:04]
go over with the board and so Evan's
[1:28:06]
going to talk about our issues in this
[1:28:10]
moving forward.
[1:28:12]
>> Yes, thank you. And we could be quite
[1:28:13]
brief on this. There's a very high level
[1:28:16]
agenda item summary and you know next
[1:28:18]
month we're planning to maybe look at
[1:28:20]
some other items as well but within this
[1:28:23]
material we've kind of included some
[1:28:26]
historical and current information. Uh
[1:28:29]
Dave's put a lot of really good uh kind
[1:28:31]
of dashboards together. I think we saw
[1:28:34]
the green waste one back at the retreat
[1:28:36]
but now there's a fleet here as well.
[1:28:37]
But there's a lot of things we want to
[1:28:40]
start looking at and and maybe um some
[1:28:43]
things we may want to assume that like
[1:28:44]
there are areas of prioritization that
[1:28:48]
this body wants us to look into and
[1:28:50]
bring back more information and we're
[1:28:52]
really looking at how can we reduce our
[1:28:55]
fleet maintenance costs. Um what type of
[1:28:57]
technology should we pursue?
[1:29:00]
A lot of the larger production calling
[1:29:03]
companies have integrated routing
[1:29:06]
software within their trucks. So the
[1:29:08]
things that we do plan to pursue a look
[1:29:10]
at in the future. Those are um capital
[1:29:13]
intensive up front but also reflect a
[1:29:16]
significant cost savings over a period
[1:29:18]
of time. But also the integration
[1:29:22]
actually implementation of those systems
[1:29:25]
are are very intensive as well and
[1:29:27]
oftentimes require full-time person as
[1:29:30]
kind of a project manager in those
[1:29:32]
capacity. So we're not really looking at
[1:29:35]
that currently. asking for any sort of
[1:29:38]
um approvals, but if there are ideas of
[1:29:41]
certain items, you know, for example,
[1:29:44]
um you know, should this district even
[1:29:46]
consider um you know, pursuing its own
[1:29:50]
in-house fleet maintenance program in
[1:29:52]
the future? You know, kind of everything
[1:29:54]
is on the table here. You know, what
[1:29:56]
types of things should we pursue? Um and
[1:29:59]
or evaluate moving forward. You know, we
[1:30:02]
all see as we've just seen an increase
[1:30:04]
in our repair and maintenance costs.
[1:30:07]
We're seeing increase in our information
[1:30:09]
technology support costs as well. Some
[1:30:11]
of them here as part of this um the
[1:30:15]
attachments on this agenda item as well.
[1:30:17]
But ultimately we're looking at
[1:30:21]
what ideas recommendations should we
[1:30:23]
consider prioritizing some of the items.
[1:30:25]
This was meant to kind of be one of
[1:30:27]
those breakout sessions uh during the
[1:30:29]
retrieve in two. But if we can go to the
[1:30:32]
next page, Renee
[1:30:34]
shows um from 2021 through 2025 or
[1:30:38]
increase. The blue bar is our food
[1:30:41]
prepare and maintenance costs. Obviously
[1:30:44]
showing a an ongoing increase in that.
[1:30:47]
Uh the next page is the dashboard that
[1:30:49]
David has put together which has a lot
[1:30:51]
of really interesting uh and insightful
[1:30:53]
information here. Um in the middle, I
[1:30:56]
know it's hard to see on the screen
[1:30:57]
here. This is in the the board packet.
[1:30:59]
Um, but our year-over-year change, if we
[1:31:02]
look at 2021
[1:31:04]
through 2025, the very middle of the
[1:31:06]
chart there, 2021, our total lending
[1:31:10]
cost was about 3.3 million. 2025, we
[1:31:13]
were about 4.86
[1:31:15]
million. So, from that time frame alone,
[1:31:18]
we see 44%.
[1:31:21]
So, fairly substantial. Um, as a whole,
[1:31:25]
our overall fuel costs haven't really
[1:31:28]
spiked or changed too much. I'm starting
[1:31:31]
to think that CNG is a much more
[1:31:34]
resilient fuel type whereas diesel is
[1:31:37]
very volatile in some cases. But pause
[1:31:41]
here and see if D, is there anything
[1:31:42]
that you wanted to maybe point out
[1:31:44]
specifically as part of the staff
[1:31:46]
forward or um things that we should
[1:31:48]
make?
[1:31:50]
Um
[1:31:58]
so when you're running
[1:32:02]
how many
[1:32:06]
units
[1:32:12]
and then one thing you can show the very
[1:32:14]
bottom of this dashboard
[1:32:16]
um on the yeah there so so David does a
[1:32:21]
ton of integrating data and working with LER team and poor as well. We look
[1:32:26]
at this cost per mile type. So if we
[1:32:30]
look at that that bottom table there,
[1:32:33]
there's a total cost per mile was also
[1:32:35]
the maintenance cost per mile as well.
[1:32:38]
And so the maintenance cost per mile has
[1:32:40]
gone up again from 2021 was about $2.74
[1:32:44]
per mile. It does not include the fuel.
[1:32:47]
um to in 2025 they're about $420.
[1:32:50]
So seeing those those increases and I
[1:32:53]
guess we're looking at but again we
[1:32:57]
continue to see increased cost from
[1:33:00]
authentic our service providers as well.
[1:33:02]
So we're going to go to the the next
[1:33:04]
page there. We we also did meet at the
[1:33:07]
end of last year with the fleet
[1:33:08]
departments and kind of review um their
[1:33:12]
trend but also their adjustments in
[1:33:16]
their rates. So we did see a $6 per hour
[1:33:22]
can rate increase this year which also
[1:33:24]
attributed to our increased costs but
[1:33:27]
also we look at the labor hours that
[1:33:29]
they've incurred for our truck since
[1:33:31]
2021.
[1:33:32]
uh and through through the program there
[1:33:34]
has been a continued increase in that as
[1:33:37]
well. Uh we also had fuel costs um
[1:33:41]
estimates and forecasts here. Um
[1:33:44]
originally they thought that diesel
[1:33:45]
would maybe go down segments. C again
[1:33:49]
have been very quite resilient to
[1:33:52]
consistent throughout those years. Uh
[1:33:54]
but you can also go to the next page for
[1:33:56]
>> but hold on just a second. Go back. Um
[1:33:59]
those labor hours
[1:34:02]
haven't increased to the same percentage
[1:34:05]
that our costs are increasing. Is that
[1:34:07]
am I reading that right? Because it
[1:34:10]
looks like that those labor hours have
[1:34:13]
only increased by roughly I mean 2021 to
[1:34:16]
2022 was a thousand but really since
[1:34:18]
then it's been pretty flatline.
[1:34:20]
Um and so I guess I'm just trying to
[1:34:23]
understand where it's continuing where
[1:34:27]
the costs are continuing to be drinks.
[1:34:29]
>> Sure. Absolutely. I think a lot of it's
[1:34:31]
going to be attributable to parts and
[1:34:33]
supplies. So the older trucks also the
[1:34:36]
parts are more difficult to find. They
[1:34:37]
become more expensive. Um a lot of
[1:34:39]
things are purchased from global markets
[1:34:42]
as well. So
[1:34:44]
>> Dave can probably speak more more to
[1:34:45]
this, but you know, we do incur a fairly
[1:34:49]
large markup when we buy the parts as
[1:34:51]
well as well. But so the county fleet,
[1:34:55]
they manage all all of the repair
[1:34:58]
maintenance of the student. So we have
[1:34:59]
our team that oversees that, coordinates
[1:35:01]
that, helps to um facilitate all of
[1:35:05]
those maintenance and repairs as well.
[1:35:07]
But the next slide kind of shows more or
[1:35:09]
less where some of these costs are maybe
[1:35:11]
coming in. Uh, so if you can just zoom
[1:35:14]
in a little bit there, Rene. So the the
[1:35:16]
mechanic hour is is an hourly rate and
[1:35:19]
we're largely using the heavy duty um
[1:35:22]
labor rates about $135 per hour. Again,
[1:35:25]
that's increased since last year. But we
[1:35:28]
also have a shop fee is the kind of
[1:35:30]
environmental fee where the deposition
[1:35:33]
of used oils and fluids and other things
[1:35:36]
like that are actually packed on. And
[1:35:38]
then the parts markup is a big one. So
[1:35:41]
this is through our agreement with
[1:35:43]
county fleet but there is a 26% markup
[1:35:46]
on all parts and that's where we're
[1:35:48]
seeing a lot of those costs and seeing
[1:35:50]
the increase
[1:35:51]
>> and that's an increase
[1:35:53]
that's on that 26
[1:35:56]
>> it's the government overhead the
[1:35:58]
management utilities um you know it is
[1:36:02]
rather extensive our original contract
[1:36:04]
if they look back the original
[1:36:07]
cars mark was 22 or 24%
[1:36:10]
but it has gone up to now 26%. So
[1:36:15]
we're really trying to deep dive this
[1:36:17]
understanding how much you're paying for
[1:36:18]
markups and paying for cards and um
[1:36:21]
ultimately at the end of the day is this
[1:36:22]
something that we should continue or
[1:36:25]
shoulder
[1:36:27]
evaluate
[1:36:33]
based on just some of this limited
[1:36:36]
additional information. Uh but we we are
[1:36:39]
paying a lot and we've been with Fleet
[1:36:41]
and talk about the markup and um all of
[1:36:44]
their customers which includes county
[1:36:47]
departments um school districts for
[1:36:50]
example
[1:36:52]
my so that they're all paying this
[1:36:55]
equivalent and same rates that we are
[1:36:57]
not paying rates that others. So this is
[1:37:00]
kind of built in to cover those overhead
[1:37:02]
costs and their management know their
[1:37:05]
buildings utilities etc. But it is an
[1:37:08]
increasing cost and one that um we pay a
[1:37:12]
lot just on high rates. But of course
[1:37:14]
that parts market is is rather
[1:37:16]
>> why they marking up their parts.
[1:37:20]
>> Great question and one again that I
[1:37:22]
>> mean they're essentially nonprofit
[1:37:26]
but not for profit. They're buying their
[1:37:28]
parts directly from a provider.
[1:37:34]
So to my understanding with county
[1:37:36]
police several other parts actually
[1:37:38]
transition from general funded to a
[1:37:41]
degree to now they're operating as
[1:37:45]
>> so so their markup covering the cost of
[1:37:48]
their looking to purchase the products
[1:37:51]
the guy that's maintaining their their
[1:37:53]
inventory in their shop. They have you
[1:37:56]
know several physical analysts and
[1:37:58]
management that manages their fleet
[1:38:00]
shops. So all those are covering their
[1:38:03]
overhead costs and providing service
[1:38:06]
comprehensively. So in essence, you
[1:38:08]
know, part of our part of our service
[1:38:10]
rates, even that's just a bad example,
[1:38:13]
but part of our service rates to collect
[1:38:15]
trash and recycling is is probably my
[1:38:18]
definition.
[1:38:19]
>> Sure.
[1:38:20]
>> But 26%.
[1:38:23]
>> I was quite surprised myself. I I've
[1:38:25]
worked in private consulting and usually
[1:38:28]
those markers are between 10 to 15 to
[1:38:30]
20%. Um but exceeding 20% is is rather
[1:38:34]
expensive and we pay quite a bit
[1:38:38]
>> and parts alone also.
[1:38:40]
>> We go direct on the parts.
[1:38:44]
>> We could this would be stand up a whole
[1:38:46]
new program having our own shop and
[1:38:48]
inventory and
[1:38:50]
>> no I just buy the part take it. I grew
[1:38:52]
up in an auto parts store and
[1:38:55]
>> supplied for all of Utah and that is an
[1:38:58]
extremely high rate
[1:39:00]
>> and so I mean a lot of people now are
[1:39:03]
just going to write I know it's
[1:39:05]
different
[1:39:05]
>> but garbage trucks but
[1:39:08]
>> I think we ought to push back on that
[1:39:10]
>> we know
[1:39:12]
>> it it seems to me that there and it
[1:39:14]
sounds like you're in the process of
[1:39:15]
diving into all these so there's this
[1:39:17]
markup issue
[1:39:19]
um there's also the issue have an aging
[1:39:22]
fleet, which it sounds like we're
[1:39:23]
addressing with the trucks that are
[1:39:25]
coming in at the end of the month. And I
[1:39:26]
know we got a little behind because we
[1:39:28]
stopped those capital purchases
[1:39:31]
>> um at the end of the year. Um so it
[1:39:36]
seems to me that there's some of this is
[1:39:37]
a structural issue, some of it is we
[1:39:39]
kind of got behind um on issues. So I I
[1:39:42]
think like looking at this, there's a
[1:39:44]
lot of avenues we still need to explore
[1:39:47]
to really identify why the classes are
[1:39:50]
going the way that they are. so that we
[1:39:51]
can then look at the best possible
[1:39:53]
solutions to address it.
[1:39:55]
>> Correct. Yeah, this is something we're
[1:39:58]
continuing to evaluate. It's part of the
[1:40:00]
forward meetings and um I've kind of in
[1:40:03]
a nice diplomatic way of kind of the
[1:40:05]
discussion with them on some of these
[1:40:07]
items that um I mean it was sticker
[1:40:12]
>> better understanding it but at the same
[1:40:14]
time is is that markup fully
[1:40:18]
justifiable? There's also this the shop
[1:40:20]
fee which comes through as a
[1:40:23]
environmental charge and that's the
[1:40:25]
actual shop fee is based on a markup on
[1:40:29]
the labor that we're in. That's to to
[1:40:32]
maintain you know the heat suppies
[1:40:37]
and filters was kind of some of the
[1:40:38]
general consumer goals but also being
[1:40:42]
oil and pantries and things like that
[1:40:44]
does also cost money it's based on their
[1:40:47]
enterprise model. Um compared to last
[1:40:50]
year the pilots that we did reflect an
[1:40:53]
increase uh but the the market has been
[1:40:56]
that way for a period of time but our
[1:40:58]
original contracts I believe that
[1:41:01]
original market was 22.
[1:41:06]
So Evan, I also wonder, so it sounds I
[1:41:08]
mean we have the option to work with the
[1:41:10]
county. We have the option to create our
[1:41:12]
own in-house, but are there other
[1:41:15]
private shops that service like these
[1:41:20]
larger?
[1:41:22]
>> There are and I believe there was an
[1:41:23]
analysis done a few years ago looking at
[1:41:27]
what it would look like to use a a
[1:41:29]
private shop. So one thing that's good
[1:41:30]
with with county police is like we share
[1:41:34]
a crew with some of them. They're right.
[1:41:37]
There's a lot of synergies and
[1:41:38]
efficiencies as as part of where they're
[1:41:41]
located and where we are at as well. And
[1:41:43]
they were great. They've been very
[1:41:45]
responsive to our questions and um
[1:41:49]
>> so that analysis is already good. It's
[1:41:51]
not
[1:41:51]
>> his historically I'm not sure if we have a compilation of those results
[1:41:59]
but looking longer term and city of five
[1:42:02]
step has it own inhouse fleets and
[1:42:04]
mechanics they were largely enterprise
[1:42:07]
funded but the model was was much
[1:42:10]
different than than this model that
[1:42:12]
we're seeing here as well and if were to
[1:42:15]
stand up its own fleet repair
[1:42:16]
maintenance shop um it's all a whole new
[1:42:19]
ball game and a lot additional headers
[1:42:21]
as well, but something that could be
[1:42:24]
worth pursuing and could be an
[1:42:28]
opportunity to
[1:42:30]
continue to reduce costs and and
[1:42:34]
minimize the cost as part of
[1:42:37]
our fleet management. But we know that
[1:42:39]
county fleet we're about a third of
[1:42:41]
their entire um business told us that
[1:42:45]
we're working on and they actually have
[1:42:47]
a dual shift shop. So there's morning
[1:42:49]
shift and there's an evening shift. That
[1:42:51]
evening shift is what keeps our trucks
[1:42:53]
on the road and minimizes number of
[1:42:55]
trucks that we have a daily basis. So
[1:42:58]
there's a lot to consider as part of
[1:43:01]
this. Um
[1:43:04]
I mean there's definitely sticker shock
[1:43:05]
and some of the things that
[1:43:08]
brought up
[1:43:10]
others that
[1:43:12]
is the is the market justifiable in some
[1:43:14]
cases and how could we
[1:43:18]
help to partner with the county to maybe
[1:43:21]
have a better model for some of these
[1:43:23]
services especially giving the word
[1:43:25]
about
[1:43:26]
>> yeah I think it does put us in a good
[1:43:29]
position even if ultimately maintaining
[1:43:31]
that partnership is the best option
[1:43:37]
» I say one other topic if you go to the
[1:43:39]
next page um we also looking at our
[1:43:42]
county IC services this is one where
[1:43:44]
we've identified some cost savings but
[1:43:46]
if you scroll go um into that a little
[1:43:49]
bit. Those top two categories. So,
[1:43:51]
anytime you have an account with a
[1:43:53]
Outlook and Microsoft account, it's
[1:43:56]
covering a variety of items. But this
[1:43:59]
year, we did see again additional
[1:44:01]
increases of their um the user rate from
[1:44:04]
about 87 to roughly $103 per user per
[1:44:09]
month. These are things we're looking at
[1:44:11]
consolidating, trimming back,
[1:44:13]
identifying some areas that we don't
[1:44:15]
need or how to consolidate some of these
[1:44:17]
accounts. But I also went back and
[1:44:19]
looked at our original contract with county IT services and the original
[1:44:24]
rate for a network access account was
[1:44:26]
about like $50,
[1:44:28]
maybe like 568 or something. So it's
[1:44:30]
gone up substantially. And so from 2020
[1:44:33]
until now, it's been increased about
[1:44:35]
80%.
[1:44:36]
So again further basic question um we've
[1:44:40]
seen reduction in cost but would look at
[1:44:43]
an in-house IT person will help us save
[1:44:46]
money with costs. Could we look at a
[1:44:49]
third party IT service provider? We do
[1:44:51]
lease this building we're under
[1:44:54]
ownership in this building as our rents.
[1:44:57]
Um but as we look things longer term
[1:45:00]
what would make more sense what make
[1:45:02]
sense for us to manage these house? We
[1:45:05]
pay for our telecom expenses, our phone
[1:45:08]
lines, and all of our IT services,
[1:45:10]
including our user accounts, our emails,
[1:45:14]
um, Adobe PDF accounts, our GIS
[1:45:17]
accounts, our Void phone, our customer
[1:45:19]
service phones. And so, um, just earlier
[1:45:23]
in the PGIs, as I mentioned, it wasn't
[1:45:25]
shown on the screen, but it's in the
[1:45:27]
PGIs as well, but we're paying about it
[1:45:32]
plus phone services. We're currently
[1:45:34]
about 17,500.
[1:45:37]
So looking at that cost, would it make
[1:45:40]
sense to look at something more inhouse
[1:45:42]
or is there a better
[1:45:45]
provider too? Again, these are driven
[1:45:48]
from everywhere seeing cost. I think
[1:45:50]
these departments are larger enterprise
[1:45:52]
funded now within the county. So they
[1:45:54]
have to cover their entire overhead and
[1:45:57]
management cost as well. And then we
[1:45:58]
have some IT um professionals in the
[1:46:01]
room as well. So kind of curious to see
[1:46:04]
what type of feedback or thoughts or
[1:46:05]
ideas um that we may want to pursue as
[1:46:09]
part of the two um expense items that we're seeing.
[1:46:15]
>> One thing that does stand out to me is
[1:46:17]
expenses of both uh environmental fees
[1:46:21]
with organizations like the fire which
[1:46:25]
have different security requirements you
[1:46:28]
do. So you are you are effectively
[1:46:32]
getting a small portion of that NHS rate
[1:46:36]
of your services to them. Uh a managed
[1:46:39]
service provider is a good start where
[1:46:42]
you can hire out a firm that will
[1:46:44]
basically charge you for just what you
[1:46:46]
need. Uh it does come in a cost. Uh but
[1:46:52]
it it does give you a very good picture
[1:46:54]
on what you actually need
[1:46:57]
infrastructure wise and then also
[1:47:00]
obviously bringing in an internal person
[1:47:04]
to manage that and handle a lot of the
[1:47:08]
heavy lifting lifting that they charge
[1:47:11]
premium for and then person
[1:47:15]
uh and it's you know shift that balance
[1:47:18]
of workload from the NSP
[1:47:21]
uh as you can find the right people to
[1:47:24]
fill those roles and can eventually cost
[1:47:26]
you less money. It's kind of like paying
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for a cloud subscription or something. I
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mean those are supposed to be cheaper
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than having your own internal IP that
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you pay $100 a year.
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But the reality is you almost spend more
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services than if you were to do it on
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purpose. That's just normal.
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So which which bag you want?
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» That's a fun.
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>> So a lot of this discussion will kind of
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bring awareness to board members. um
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maybe something to to think about
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working to evaluate all these items, but
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if there are any um ideas or
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recommendations or areas that this body
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thinks we should should pursue from a
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priorization level, we'd be happy to
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hear those that feedback.
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>> I think where I'm at this point is just
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I want to continue to gather information
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before I feel like comfortable
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indicating a direction.
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That's all we have for this item.
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>> All right. Well, uh, last item. Um, we
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have a Herman, uh, city withdrawal says
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update.
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>> Yeah, I'll be super duper brief. Uh,
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more or less what we just wanted to let
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you know is that our conversations
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around
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hoping to have some more.
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will have noticed perhaps that you might
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have got an email today from
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another resolution indicating guarantee
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to withdraw which isn't necessarily it's
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just they're doing so under the statute
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but that doesn't necessarily mean that
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continue to attempt to get a negotiated
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withdrawal unless that's I think both
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parties
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So, we're still working on that. And
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that's basically the update is just to
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let you know that it's kind of
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» all right. Um I don't think we have any
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further closed session. Is that right?
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Okay.
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>> Well, and I want to say one thing. So,
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as per the the letter we received today,
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if there are questions, please reach out
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to me um and or Rachel would probably
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better the final question for me. I can
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correspond with information on those.
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Um, some of the content may seem
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concerning. Um, but, you know, we're looking through that to make sure
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that it continues to, um, satisfy
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hopefully both parties and and minimizes
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to the degree practical any impact to
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both as a whole and our remaining
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partneries throughout. So to come on
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that and then you feel free to to reach
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out to me anytime.
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» All right. Uh do we have any other board
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business?
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All right. Um do we have some items for
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subsequent board meetings um that we can
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look over at your leisure? Um then I get
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a motion to mature.
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» Second. Second. All in favor?
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Any
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>> oppose?
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And
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>> we are adjourned.
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>> Thank you.
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I'm sure
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» please
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watch
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your