[1:00] Good afternoon. Your turn now is 440 on August 26, 26. I would like to convene the City Council's

[1:07] successor, HZ to the Western Reserve with the development, HZ meeting. The meeting is now called

[1:13] to order. Local police.

[1:15] Mayor Win.

[1:16] I'm here.

[1:17] Vice Mayor Win?

[1:18] Yeah.

[1:19] District 1, Councilwoman Pan West. District 2, Council Member Monso.

[1:24] I'm here.

[1:24] District 4, Council Member Win.

[1:26] I'm here.

[1:26] Mayor, you have a quorum with district one, Councilwoman Fan West, absent?

[1:31] All right, thank you. Next is our communication for closed session.

[1:35] Before we go into that, I believe that the Ceditornail orders, Ceditornail have the

[1:42] work on item. Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, as you know, the city has the authority to add

[1:49] something to the closed session and staff recently became aware after this agenda was posted.

[1:55] staff became aware of a need to add an item to discussion of closed session.

[2:01] The staff is requesting that you add the following to the agenda.

[2:06] It would indicate conference with legal counsel and

[2:08] anticipated litigation.

[2:10] Initiation of litigation pursuant to government code section 54956.9D4, one potential case.

[2:18] So it would you would need to make the following finding.

[2:21] Number one that this matter came to the attention after the agenda was posted.

[2:24] and number two that it is urgent that this matter be considered in close session.

[2:31] All right, since this is a work on item, we need to have four votes on that. So I move to approve

[2:37] a second. All right. Go please.

[2:43] District 2 Council Member Monzo. Yes. District 4 Council Member

[2:48] Win. Yes. Vice Mayor Win. Yes. Mayor Win. Yes. Motion carried for zero.

[2:53] At this time, would you please go ahead and read the items that we are going to go into the

[2:57] close session?

[2:58] The City Council will recess to a close session for the following purposes.

[3:02] Conference with Legal Council, existing litigation, government code section 54956.9

[3:10] D1, name of case, Westminster versus Nicole Brown, OC Superior Court case number

[3:16] or 3-0-2025-149-1463-CU-FR-CJC.

[3:28] Number two, conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation,

[3:31] significant exposure to litigation,

[3:33] pursuant to government code 54956.9-D2 number of potential cases

[3:40] to and then the third item conference with legal account.

[3:46] That's what I previously described.

[3:48] So it'd be those three items.

[3:49] And then before you adjourn to close session, I will note for the record that there is

[3:53] nobody in attendance, so there's no need here from the public unless there's somebody online.

[3:58] We have no speakers via Zoom.

[4:01] Very good.

[4:01] All right.

[4:02] Thank you very much.

[4:03] At this time, the city council will assess what close session we'll come back at six o'clock.

[5:02] Good evening. The time now is 6.07. On August 26, 26, 26, I would like to reconvene the city council of

[5:13] Successure Agency to the Westminster with Development Agency meeting. The meeting is now called to order.

[5:36] Thank you very much and salute to the flag today, it will be a district two council member mezzo and invocation by district one council member me, if I'm West, please stand

[5:51] ready, begin.

[5:54] Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which

[6:00] this is one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[6:08] Please remain standing with me to pray.

[6:11] Lord Jesus, we just thank you so much for this time to serve the people and make decision

[6:16] that will move our city forward and to consider the resident and the people, Westminster

[6:22] and the businesses. And Lord, I pray that you give us wisdom to make those decisions that are right

[6:28] for the people. And I pray that you just be with us in G.S. in G.S. and we pray Amen.

[6:39] Thank you, Council Member Mazo and Council Member West.

[6:43] For the Salam to the flag in invocation. Next, let's see. Tony, co-session report, please.

[6:50] In close session, we discussed each of the items that appears on the agenda for those of you that

[6:55] or not here, we added an item to that discussion.

[6:59] There's nothing to report out on that item.

[7:02] There is one matter that correction, actually,

[7:07] the item that was added was to authorize

[7:09] the initiation of litigation.

[7:12] And the city attorney was given the authority

[7:14] to an issued litigation.

[7:17] And let's see, the city will, let's see.

[7:23] The authority was granted and that the particulars of who the city is sewing will once formally

[7:29] commence to be disclosed to any person upon inquiry unless to do so would jeopardize the

[7:34] city's ability to affect what service to process on one or more uncertain parties or that to

[7:39] do so would jeopardize its ability to conclude existing settlement negotiations. That's not what's

[7:43] happening here. That concludes my report. All right. Now come to export to communication, including

[7:51] as being one for three night report when required. Say anything from that.

[7:58] Hearing none seeing none of them moving on to city public. Mary, I have nothing to report.

[8:07] All right, thank you. Then next is city manager report, please.

[8:39] Next year, we are celebrating

[8:40] our 70th anniversary. So today we are launching our 70th anniversary logo contest. This contest is

[8:48] to Westminster resident students and eligible businesses with a separate general and separate general

[8:55] and K through 12 categories. The winners will receive prizes including $500 in local gift cards

[9:00] for the general category or commemorative merchandise for the K through 12 category.

[9:05] Entries are due September 23rd and for more information visit the city's website

[9:09] or call community services at 714-895-2860. Okay with the hot summer days here

[9:18] and we mean hawks. The Sigler Park Splash Pad is the perfect place to cool off and have some fun.

[9:24] Located at 7200 Plaza Street, the Splash Pad is open daily through September 7 with free public hours from 12 to 5 pm.

[9:33] So bring the family and enjoy a refreshing break from the really summer heat.

[9:39] And then just a update, the Signal Box Art Program is currently accepting applications.

[9:45] We're inviting Westminster artists to help transform travel signal traffic signal boxes across

[9:50] the city and to public art.

[9:52] Individuals groups and school groups are all welcome to apply and selected artists receive

[9:57] a $750 stipend to bring their designs to life.

[10:00] If you're ready to apply, full details, requirements, and the application form are available at the city's website, applications close on September 17th at 5 p.m.

[10:12] And we've just closed out our summer movies and concerted series, but that means that we are just around the corner from our fall festival.

[10:20] So get ready for four exciting days of fun food entertainment and community as the fall festival returns September 24th through the 27th, right behind us at the Western Service Civic Center.

[10:32] This year's festival is bigger than ever, featuring all the fall festival favorites,

[10:36] carnival rides, for all ages, live entertainment, delicious food, unique vendors, and family

[10:41] friendly activities, along with some exciting new experiences.

[10:45] New this year, look to the skies for a spectacular fall festival drone show on Friday,

[10:51] experience the beauty and tradition of our moon lantern celebration on Saturday,

[10:55] and join us for a special cultural night celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month,

[10:59] kicking off the event on Thursday.

[11:01] This year's festival will also feature a patriotic theme

[11:04] as we continue celebrating America's 250th Anniversary.

[11:08] So whether you come for the rides, music, food,

[11:09] culture, celebrations, or just have a great time,

[11:12] weekend with your family and friends,

[11:13] there's going to be something for everyone.

[11:15] If you want to be part of the festival,

[11:17] we're currently accepting applications for sponsors,

[11:19] vendors, and entertainers through August 28th,

[11:22] so for more information contact community services,

[11:24] 714-895-2860.

[11:28] And seniors, of course, we can't have a city manager report without a senior center event.

[11:33] Seniors join us for a suite afternoon at a free ice cream social on Thursday, September 10th, from

[11:39] 12.30 to 130 p.m. So come, cool off, enjoy a tasty treat, spend time with friends, and

[11:45] reserve a ticket at the senior center front desk or by calling 714-895-2878. So obviously, a lot going on in

[11:53] That concludes my report for tonight.

[11:56] All right.

[11:56] Thank you very much.

[11:57] The manager.

[11:59] So next before I move into special presentation, which I like the most.

[12:04] I would like to welcome each and every one of you to see the council meeting tonight.

[12:08] Thank you for taking the time.

[12:10] I hope this evening to be here.

[12:14] So special presentation of presentation up for

[12:17] Commission hunger action month, September 20, 26, the month of September has been designated

[12:26] hunger action month in order to bring attention to food insecurity in our communities

[12:33] and to enlist the public in the movement to end hunger by taking action, including volunteering,

[12:41] doing and educating to ensure every community and everybody in it has the food they need to

[12:50] drive. The City of Washington is committed to taking steps to combat hunger in every part of our

[12:58] city and to provide additional resources that those in Washington's need. Unfortunately,

[13:06] list and ready, a executive director of 211 Orange County was unable to attend the tonight's meeting.

[13:16] So we will be sure that they will receive this particular mission.

[13:21] So again, thank you very much.

[13:24] Moving on to the oral communication concerning agenda items only.

[13:30] And I want to remind you that this is the oral communication for agenda items only.

[13:38] So, City Clerk, would you please read the instruction for the record?

[13:43] This is the time of the meeting that members of the public may address the city council regarding any items on the agenda, except public hearing items.

[13:50] Members of the public wishing to address public hearing items shall do so at the time of the public hearing.

[13:55] Unless otherwise extended by a majority vote of the city council, comments shall be limited to three minutes per speaker.

[14:02] Any person wishing to address the city council in person should complete a green speaker's lip, which are provided at the entrance to council chambers,

[14:10] and submit the card to city clerk staff.

[14:12] When a name is called, please step to the podium at that time and state your name, the city of residence for the record.

[14:18] President Senate Bill 707, the meeting is being conducted with both in-person and teleconference

[14:23] participation.

[14:25] The city will accept public communications from both in-person and remote participation.

[14:30] Public comments will be taken first from those attending in-person followed by those participating

[14:34] remotely.

[14:35] Once all in-person comments have been completed, the city clerk staff will announce the name

[14:39] or last four numbers of the telephone number of the individual who have requested to

[14:44] provide public comment remotely.

[14:45] remote public commenters will receive the same time allotment as members of the public commenting in person.

[14:52] First speaker is Angela Ward

[14:57] followed by Marianne.

[15:00] Okay.

[15:02] Well, you please step to the point.

[15:23] To participate in theatrical productions at the Rose Center Theatre. We've sold out. And so, literally, we've

[15:32] brought thousands of people that didn't know about the charm and the culture that this city offers. We have

[15:42] of special needs students.

[15:45] We are an inclusive, Christian community that provides

[15:49] family entertainment and our students have been so enriched

[15:52] by the professionalism and frankly, the culture

[15:57] that the Rose Center theater staff offers.

[16:02] Moreover, the lobby has become a beloved and treasured site

[16:06] for annual art shows, which are also open to the public.

[16:11] And I believe so strongly in the words of George Washington that for freedom to exist in a republic,

[16:21] theater must be an essential part of it.

[16:24] The Rose is a jam, a crown, upon the head of this city.

[16:29] It is a rare institution.

[16:31] It's difficult to find in any area in Southern California,

[16:37] an institution like the Rose Center Theater.

[16:39] When my family and I attend the productions, outside of my contract with the Rose as a school,

[16:45] we always meet people that literally have traveled hours to enjoy the productions.

[16:52] It represents the city very well, and I implore you not to take away something that has

[16:59] become a beloved tradition for a small Christian liberal arts high school in Orange County.

[17:05] I think that the Rose Center Theatre is something that needs to continue for generations.

[17:13] Thank you so much for your time.

[17:21] Next speaker, Mary Ann Hurn, followed by Tom Orn.

[17:27] Good evening, Mayor and council members.

[17:30] My name is Mary Ann Hurn and I'm a here tonight as a member of this community and a proud supporter of the Rose Center Theatre.

[17:37] My husband and I have been supporting the Theatre for more than 10 years.

[17:41] We first became involved because our own children were involved and they were in

[17:46] projections here at the theater. They are grown women now but our involvement

[17:50] at involvement has continued. The theater isn't just a building to us. It's a place

[17:56] where a daughter's grew up, where we volunteered side by side, and where we've watched countless young

[18:04] people gain confidence, develop challenge, and build life long friendships, and it has become part

[18:11] of our family's story. Through the years, we've seen first-hand the positive impact that this

[18:18] theater has on our community. It provides opportunities for children, teens, and adults to learn

[18:26] to create and to belong. It brings families together

[18:34] and I believe the Rose Center Theatre

[18:37] has been a tremendous success and made a lasting positive contribution to Westminster.

[18:47] Closing this theater would be a significant loss for our community. Therefore, I do recommend

[18:54] strongly that we keep the theater open under the current tenant, the friends of the Rose

[19:02] Center theater. As members of the city council, you have the responsibility to make decisions

[19:09] that the center of that Westminster and improve the quality of life for all residents.

[19:17] Please help preserve this special place for future generations. And as you can see in our own chamber,

[19:23] There's a high percent of diversity here representing the theater.

[19:29] Thank you for your time and consideration.

[19:35] Next speaker, Tom Orr, followed by Don Anderson.

[19:47] Hello, my name is Tom Orr.

[19:50] I am here not as someone who possesses a deep understanding of city government.

[19:56] Nor do I count myself an expert at this type of public speaking.

[20:00] I am here as someone long affiliated with the Rose Center Theatre, as an audience member and a performer.

[20:09] But my words here are not performative. Please note if you will, the lack of costume and makeup.

[20:17] I speak from the heart, and I hope it is not presumptuous to say that many others who share my heartfelt views might express them in a similar way.

[20:25] That demographic includes my wife and three children.

[20:30] All of whom have performed on the Rose Center stage,

[20:33] cumulative total of about 30 productions,

[20:36] and we all hold the place very near and dear.

[20:39] There is an abundance of available information

[20:42] as to how the Rose Center has benefited the city of Westminster

[20:46] in the areas of entertainment, education, culture, and community.

[20:51] I can add little to that information apart from testifying to the truth of it, and the fact

[20:58] that the organization making it happen is the friends of the Rose Center Theatre.

[21:06] True though it is, the adage, if it isn't broke, don't fix it, can sound trivial and

[21:11] simplistic.

[21:13] So allow me to take my contention a step further.

[21:17] There is no value in attempting to change the managing of something that is already being

[21:22] managed in an exemplary manner. The public reactions to the theatrical productions staged at the

[21:29] Rose Center are solid evidence of that exemplary manner. It is therefore my sincere hope

[21:36] and that of many like me who have experienced the profound joys of the Rose Center, both on and off

[21:43] the stage, that the esteemed body of council members before me will continue to keep the friends

[21:50] of the Rose Center at the helm and everyone involved in joining the ride to the utmost extent possible.

[21:57] That concludes my remarks. Please know that I have made them in good conscience and with all

[22:03] due respect. Thank you.

[22:07] Don Anderson, followed by Joanne Benhausen.

[22:15] Don Anderson,

[22:16] President of the Friends of the Rose Center Theatre, and it's wonderful that we have all the people

[22:20] here this evening who is support art theater, it is a great institution.

[22:25] My purpose here is this evening is to take a little different tech and following my

[22:29] comments I would encourage members of the audience who wish to support the theater to

[22:33] do so.

[22:34] But my concern actually relates to the fact of the information in the staff report lack of information.

[22:42] So I am here to request that you continue item 5.6, selection of venue operator for the

[22:50] following reasons. One, the four-page staff report provides no information for the council members

[22:58] to make an informed decision as to which is the best operator or operators. Number two, the

[23:05] city council members have not given given copies of the four proposals submitted by the four

[23:11] proposed operators to read and evaluate.

[23:16] The staff report does not even contain an executive

[23:19] the summary of East proposed operator strength and weaknesses.

[23:23] The only information in the staff report on the four proposed operators is their names.

[23:28] Well, Latin Asian hospitality group, friends of the Rose Center, TLC Incorporated Coffee

[23:34] Whipped.

[23:36] The four proposed operators were interviewed by the community services director and community

[23:42] development director who were designated the evaluation committee.

[23:47] Unfortunately, the evaluation committee did not assign any numerical value to each of the ten categories for each proposed operator.

[23:56] If they did, the values are not shown in the staff report.

[24:01] Number five, the staff report is not explained how the final scores were calculated.

[24:07] According to the staff report, the staff, not the evaluation committee,

[24:11] ranked the four proposed operators.

[24:14] The top score was 43 followed by scores of 22, 21 and 21.

[24:21] Friends of the Rose Center received a score of 22.

[24:25] The staff report did not indicate what the maximum points would be.

[24:30] And finally, the conclusion in the staff report states,

[24:35] The proposed proposals have been completed, and the City Council is requested to select a venue operator,

[24:42] close.

[24:43] The evaluation may have been completed by staff, but they are not presented in the staff report.

[24:50] Therefore, the Council doesn't have the information available to make a decision this evening.

[24:56] Thank you.

[25:00] Next speaker, Joanne Bentonhausen, followed by Tammy Hemel.

[25:41] playhouse and they bring in performing groups from all over and it's easy to see that they

[25:48] perform with love.

[25:53] They also bring in their family, friends and organizations to see them

[25:58] and visit and support your community. You must know the Rose Theatre is one of the premier attractions

[26:07] in your city and it's something that your city is known for. You must know how blessed you are

[26:13] to have this theater and how it bless us so many and I hope you vote to support one of the best

[26:20] playhouses in this entire area. Thank you.

[26:28] Tammy Hamel followed by William Walkman.

[26:52] Tammy Hamel

[26:53] modeling. Amy. Charlie, you're so concerned about the road center not making money, but

[26:59] yourself have wasted so much of our tax money on your projects so that you have used

[27:03] to campaign with. You've allowed Amy and Namquan to waste our time and money with their

[27:07] useless agenda items and getting paid to not even show up half the time.

[27:13] Then, 9.1, you want to let her skate on basically giving us all the finger on rules and

[27:17] decorum. You pretend to care about that when residents are speaking, but not so much when

[27:22] Council members aren't following it. Your two-week-and-compromise to be mayor again. You've been

[27:28] a detriment to the city and residents. You don't really adhere to the rules and if you do,

[27:32] you backtrack when you're pressured or running for office. What about the rules of not showing

[27:36] up, disparaging remarks about staff and residents, accusations against staff residents and

[27:41] other council members campaigning from the diets. The list goes on. If residents want

[27:47] more years of you wasting our tax money, taking away decades-long institutions like the Rose

[27:52] Center, never ending fights on the dias, things like having the balls to ask for more

[27:57] money when you barely show up to meetings as it is, much less doing anything worthwhile,

[28:02] prioritizing selfish ones while we're paying the tax bill every day, our city being a laughing

[28:06] stock, then sure, they can vote for money you ask hats. But if you're tired of all of that

[28:10] and want people up there who will actually take care of our city, people who will actually talk

[28:14] and listen to all residents of O for David Johnson District 1, Lone Wind District 4, and Carlos

[28:20] Manzo for Mayor will give us all that.

[28:23] Let's get back to some semblance of decency and good use of our tax money and help our

[28:26] neighbors in need, keep our parks nice, and have businesses who actually want to invest

[28:31] here.

[28:31] I'm sick of your crap, and I really hope that they are too and vote accordingly.

[28:39] William Walkman, followed by Lee Ann Tran.

[28:49] Good evening, Mayor and Council members. My name is William Walkman. I'm your

[28:53] speaker. I'll be half of the Rose Center Theater. For the past 14 years I

[28:58] pretended dozens of performances in events at the Rose and I really came

[29:01] alone. My family and friends have shared that experience with me over and over

[29:05] again. Every time I walk through those doors I felt welcomed. I felt that

[29:10] that people who work in volunteer at the Rose genuinely care about that

[29:13] people who come through those doors and about what happens on that stage. But for

[29:18] My family, the Rose is much more than a place where we go to see a show.

[29:23] My son Cole began performing at the Rose when he started high school in 2011.

[29:28] He appeared in many productions there and something happened to him at the Rose.

[29:32] His love of theater grew.

[29:36] That experience became part of the foundation that eventually allowed him to perform in

[29:40] productions across the country and ultimately to spend two and a half years on Broadway

[29:45] and will on Rose the Musical.

[29:47] Now, I don't pretend that the Rose alone created that journey, colded the work, he had talent,

[29:53] determination and good fortune to have opportunities along the way, but the Rose was part of his foundation.

[29:59] And what he...

[30:00] Children there didn't stop with him. He has carried that experience forward and paid it back to audiences, fellow performers, directors, technicians, and other theater communities that make productions possible.

[30:13] That to me is what makes the road so important. It's impact can't be measured simply by ticket sales, rental agreements, or the number of performances held there. The real impact is measured in the people who walk through those doors and discover something about themselves.

[30:29] Children discover theater, young people discover confidence, families,

[30:33] create memories, performers learn their craft and communities come together.

[30:38] And all that requires more than four walls on a stage.

[30:41] It requires people who understand theater, people who understand production,

[30:45] staging, lighting, performance, and the unique needs of the organizations that

[30:50] depend on this facility. For 20 years, the Friends of the Rose Center

[30:55] Peter have built that knowledge and that community.

[30:58] I can't imagine Westminster without the Rose continuing to do what it has done for so many

[31:03] of us.

[31:04] So today I'm asking you to look beyond simply who can operate the facility.

[31:08] Please protect the Rose, protect the expertise, the community, and the spirit that have made

[31:14] it what it is.

[31:15] Give the Rose the opportunity to continue to sparkle and shine and give the next coal and

[31:21] Next generation of families, the opportunity to discover what is possible.

[31:26] Thank you.

[31:32] Lynn Tran, followed by Joanne Paul.

[31:50] Good evening.

[31:52] Mayor and city council members.

[31:55] My name is Lynn Tran, and I also known Scunley.

[32:01] I am here today on behalf of TLC Group.

[32:06] TLC is fully established and registered in the state of California.

[32:11] Our business base right here in the city of Westminster and ready to take on the operation of the Rose Centre.

[32:23] I am so proud to be a Westminster resident.

[32:26] So this project is especially meaningful to me.

[32:30] This is our community and we are committed to its success.

[32:34] I personally have 14 years experience managing the Saigon Performing Arts Center,

[32:43] working with promoters, musical concerts, artists, event, organizer, customer and community

[32:50] organization. Our letters of reference can confirm this experience.

[32:56] I am also a shareholder of Vic Face TV, where I have hosted many live programs with attorneys

[33:06] and doctor providing the public with valuable information on legal issue health and prevention.

[33:14] This experience has also given me strong relationship with media and advertising.

[33:20] As the owner and operator of an obscene restaurant right in Westminster, I bring many years of hand on experience in restaurant banquet and event operation.

[33:35] The meeting service has also been an important part of my work.

[33:41] I have many years of involvement with non-profit organization

[33:45] and currently serve as a board member of two non-profit organization,

[33:53] which has helped me build strong relationship

[33:55] through our Westminster and Orange County.

[34:00] TLC is prepared to invest $500,000 in operating resource to support the successful operation

[34:10] of the Rose Center.

[34:13] In addition, TLC will pay rent to the city and share 10% profit of our profit with the city

[34:23] after operating expense.

[34:25] As the role center grows and succeeds, the city and our community will share in that

[34:32] success.

[34:35] TLC is committed to preserve our existing event, school program, student program, art show

[34:45] to the public, nonprofit programs, and city of Westminster events.

[34:53] I'm here to tell him he's up.

[34:54] He's up.

[34:56] Me.

[34:56] Just tell him to stop.

[34:57] Thank you.

[35:00] Joanne Paul,

[35:04] followed by Pauli Marglis,

[35:08] greetings council. My name is Joanne Paul. I've been a resident of WestBizter since 1972 with a small D2R2 Irvine, went to school here, washed my friends grow up here, raising my daughter here. It's really hard to follow and act that's promising $500,000.

[35:28] So, Westminster has a long record of welcoming people from a wide variety.

[35:34] I've always considered us since the Vietnam War that we are about one-third white, one-third

[35:40] Hispanic, and one-third Asian, not specifically Vietnamese.

[35:45] We welcome all sorts of people.

[35:47] We are the All-American City.

[35:49] I've gone to school with all ethnicities because that's what Westminster is.

[35:54] We live here, you guys live here, we need to work on not destroying what works.

[36:02] You guys paid the city, the taxpayers paid for an audit, a review of the Friends of the

[36:10] Rose Center or the Rose Theater on how our theater has been doing.

[36:17] They got glowing reviews.

[36:19] And then we find out that you guys want to immediately get rid of them, give them 30 days

[36:27] notice to get everything out, and bring in a company that will do both the venue, which

[36:33] from what I understand hasn't been doing well, and getting rid of the friends of the rose,

[36:38] which has been doing phenomenal.

[36:42] What is that gaining for our city?

[36:44] Except for possibly $500,000, we don't know,

[36:47] because we haven't seen, you guys haven't seen,

[36:51] any of what the interview had, how they were rated.

[36:58] What are they bringing, how is it reaching out?

[37:02] How is it being inclusive of all the people in Westminster?

[37:07] What do we gain from it and why break something

[37:10] that's been working perfectly fine for the last 20 years

[37:13] and truly a jam and people come from far outside the city to see the productions.

[37:21] Do what's right for a Westminster? Fix what is truly broken? Not what is working perfectly

[37:29] fine. Clean that up before you start breaking something else. Thank you.

[37:38] Holly Marglis, followed by Lone Wind.

[37:49] Good evening, my name is Holly Marglis, and I live on

[37:52] Sauston Circle with Charlie in West Mysterious,

[37:55] in 1972, and I am really love the Rose Center,

[37:59] and I hope that each one of the councilmen

[38:02] or women have been to the Rose Center and take in their families.

[38:07] It's a gem.

[38:09] I don't know about the banquish side.

[38:11] I think that should be separate.

[38:13] I think Tim Nilsen has done a wonderful job and continues to do a wonderful job on the

[38:20] road society.

[38:21] I'm sorry, I'm part of the Orange County Road Society.

[38:24] The road's theater and I would like to see it stay at the same.

[38:29] We need to have our youth participate, which they incorporate the school districts and that's

[38:35] wonderful.

[38:36] The kids love it and they eat it up.

[38:40] We want to be sure that we have it for the future when the children are exposed to the theater,

[38:49] their horizons brought in.

[38:51] So please keep the theater part separately and look further into what the banquet side can do.

[39:02] And thank you very much.

[39:04] I appreciate your time.

[39:08] Lone when followed by Tram Campbell.

[39:25] Hello Mayor and in council. My name is Lone when you

[39:31] all know I live in Westminster.

[39:36] As I mentioned before, first time I knew about the

[39:39] Rosanna Theatre was when I went for my sons for four months. I talked about my son but it

[39:46] the Vietnamese American Philharmonic Orchestra is VAP for short and my son was little then.

[40:00] And throughout the years, I attended many concerts there. My son and then also other Vietnamese show.

[40:11] And I also went to the theater. I mean, I also went to the show that Tim Nelson produced.

[40:23] And I got to say, I met Tim Nelson when I went to my son's performance.

[40:36] So we need to leave that part alone.

[40:41] We need to leave that part alone for the people of Westminster.

[40:48] What you can change is the bank with sign and what percent in the stack reports is really good.

[41:01] You can do that. You can change that or send you only a few months left in your term.

[41:09] You can leave it for the new people to decide.

[41:12] Right?

[41:17] Right? You don't have to make a decision now if it's difficult.

[41:23] Since I attended the meeting several months ago,

[41:30] we talk about the Rosanna Theatre, all went over.

[41:35] Why do you want to change it when it doesn't need to change?

[41:44] Right?

[41:47] Well, thank you for listening to the people

[41:50] that come to voice the concern, they want to keep the role-centered theater as it for the people of Westminster.

[42:02] Don't change it. If you want to change anything to change the banquet side, thank you.

[42:17] Tram Kambha followed by Kathleen Iverson.

[42:27] Good evening.

[42:28] My name is Dumwang Kambha.

[42:31] I'm a proud Vietnamese American and a Westminster resident.

[42:37] Council members, when you are sitting up there in the days,

[42:42] and making decisions about the world's center,

[42:45] who are you serving?

[42:48] What is your priority?

[42:49] are you serving the community and the people? Are you serving yourselves?

[42:58] The correct answer

[42:59] is you are serving the people. As Estudely said by Council Member West at the beginning.

[43:10] So with respect to serving the people, respect to the Rose Center, serving the people is to keep the current operator,

[43:20] represented by Mr. Tim Nelson.

[43:24] Who are the people you are serving? I'll give you an example.

[43:29] My daughter and my family. And she might kill me for giving this example, but I will say it.

[43:37] My daughter, Lena, found the real center theater three years ago when she was 11 years old.

[43:44] She was a scared little girl. At that time, she was bullied at school.

[43:50] Her own friend group turned on her, called her names, threw stuff at her when she passed by them.

[44:00] I came to school one time and saw her eating lunch alone and that broke my heart.

[44:09] But with the rose, she found kindness, camaraderie, and gained a little confidence with each performance that she did with them.

[44:24] So that is who you are serving, and the thousands of kids, I see some of them here, who have been positively impacted by the Rose Center deeter.

[44:40] Business wise, it just makes sense to have them keep operating it.

[44:46] They are really talented. They put our shelter together in three weeks. They know what they're doing.

[44:53] They have been doing this running the same theater for 20 years as compared to the 14 years that

[45:00] That TLC has not only did they bring customers to the theater, they brought customers to other businesses within

[45:10] the city. I have friends and family from other cities like Irvine River, Saibrea. They come

[45:16] here to see the show and they stay here to eat dinner and hang around.

[45:23] So, as you make a decision

[45:25] about the theater. Ask yourself. Your time is up and you're time. Your time is up. Your time is up.

[45:38] Kathleen Iverson. Followed by Alex Fuzz.

[45:53] My name is Kathleen Iverson. I reside at 8441

[45:56] Sterling Way Westminster and I've lived in the city my entire 76 years. I have so amazed

[46:05] I found this on the agenda again because we did this last year and you had a company and

[46:10] they said the Rose Center, the Center where we're having the theater is doing really well

[46:16] because in Westminster is costing the city around $50,000, but anybody else who's doing

[46:22] some of it something like this is costing their city $600,000 to a hat for their productions.

[46:29] So I went, okay, I was a board member, I had to make fiscal decisions.

[46:35] Let's take that $50,000, and say we are saving $550,000,

[46:40] by keeping the rose center run by the friends of the rose center.

[46:45] And because the banquet side is not making money,

[46:49] they recommended you look for somebody else to do that.

[46:52] I think maybe it's time to sever the relationship between whether or not the rose center

[46:57] can exist and the Banquets Center.

[46:59] The Banquets area is not working.

[47:02] And we have a huge amount of talent in the city of Westminster

[47:05] by people who could run restaurants and Banquets.

[47:09] And I would think that we could find somebody

[47:11] do that that would make $500,000.

[47:15] This group is planning on sprinting.

[47:18] Make that Banquets' system work.

[47:21] Because $500,000 won't even do.

[47:23] what's needs to be done, that friends of the Rose Center have been doing for free 50,000,

[47:30] for air conditioning, all that, but that's usually free when you have $600,000 worth

[47:36] of benefit to the C of Westminster.

[47:39] I ask you to reconsider and make sure before you make a vote that you put all the information

[47:44] out that you're choosing to make your decisions to the community, so they can see what

[47:50] or if you haven't seen it, we should all see it.

[47:54] Thank you.

[47:58] Alex Faz followed by Roger Mindrum.

[48:04] Good evening, Mayor and Council members.

[48:06] My name is Alex Faz and I serve as one of the Westminster Arts

[48:08] and Culture Commissioners for our great city.

[48:11] I've spoken before about the Rose Center

[48:13] because I believe we have an opportunity

[48:14] to make it both culturally significant

[48:16] and financially sustainable.

[48:18] And I still believe those goals are not mutually exclusive.

[48:21] Tonight, however, we're asked to make a decision

[48:24] could fundamentally change an institution that has served this community for more than 20 years.

[48:29] Friends of the Rose Center may not be perfect. There are opportunities to increase utilization

[48:34] of the ballroom, generate new revenue and make much better commercial use of it.

[48:39] The problem is, the friends of the Rose haven't even been given a chance to do that yet,

[48:43] as prior to all this, a catering company was running the ballroom.

[48:47] Therefore, we should improve what we have, not dismantle it. The friends of something that

[48:52] can't simply be recreated through an RFP.

[48:55] Two decades of institutional knowledge

[48:57] and existing audience, relationships with performers,

[49:02] community organizations, volunteers,

[49:05] most importantly direct experience operating our theater.

[49:10] I'm concerned that the information before the public tonight

[49:13] doesn't fully explain why we should walk away from that.

[49:17] We're presented with scores of 43 for Latin Asian hospitality group

[49:21] and 22 for the road friends of the Rose Center.

[49:24] But the staff report doesn't show us how those points were awarded across the 10 evaluation

[49:29] categories.

[49:30] That's significant difference, and I think Council and the community deserves to understand

[49:36] what created it before making this decision.

[49:39] Especially considering the Latin Asian hospitality group is a food truck company that caters

[49:43] the occasional wedding.

[49:45] They have zero experience running a theater and no ties to our city or even Orange County,

[49:50] as they're located in Campbell, California, nearly 400 miles away.

[49:55] Also, another candidate who is local also has no experience running a theater.

[50:00] Or even an event venue. Coffee shops and food trucks stands, do not qualify someone to run an entertainment facility.

[50:08] Might I add, are we to trust someone who uses AI images to promote their business and post about a venue,

[50:14] no one's ever seen or used and have that put you as the front runner in an RFP process?

[50:19] And if you need them, I've got printouts here for you guys. This RFP isn't simply for catering or banquet operations.

[50:26] The operator is expected to secure and present concerts, theatrical performances, touring productions, and other live entertainment.

[50:35] So I would ask, what demonstrated experience do the other operators have actually operating in programming a performing arts theater?

[50:41] And how is that weight against 20 years of direct experience operating the rows?

[50:46] Another operator may be something of the ballroom, but as far as the theater goes, there's only one that brings anything to the table, that's friends of the rows.

[50:53] The problem we're trying to solve isn't that the rails doesn't know how to put on theater.

[50:58] The challenge is utilization.

[50:59] We spent 20 years building something that works, let's improve on that.

[51:08] Roger Minterm, followed by Harry Ratner.

[51:14] Good evening, Roger Minterm.

[51:16] I'm a resident of Westminster.

[51:18] Some very awesome comments by everyone tonight.

[51:22] Thanks for being here with everyone.

[51:24] I don't think I can be Alex by any terms, and that was perfectly stated.

[51:30] If you've been to the Rose Center, performances, I hope you recognize some of the performers

[51:36] that are here from very vast age groups, a lot of young people in the back here, but I recognize.

[51:48] I echo many of the statements here tonight, but I just want to try to make a couple different

[51:53] points that maybe weren't brought up. A little bit from what Alex had pointed out is that

[51:59] you're bringing a new management team here. I don't know what you're thinking you're going

[52:04] to get, but you're not going to get the family that has been built for the last 20 years.

[52:14] Even you personally, when you think of your family, your children, that's what you built.

[52:20] When your kids are successful and they're on a college and it's successful, you built that.

[52:28] Tim Nelson and his creative team have built this community of performers and you're

[52:37] not going to get that.

[52:40] And if you don't select the Friends of the Rose Center to continue, you're going to rip

[52:45] the heart and soul out of this community.

[52:51] And 9.1, you're making a big mistake if you were sending the way you've already put out from the, you know what, thank you.

[53:07] Harry Ratner, followed by Scott Ratner.

[53:14] Good evening. My name is Harry Ratner. I've been a resident of Orange County for over 50 years.

[53:22] And for 30 of those years, I was a producer director with Public Television at KOCE.

[53:29] A big part of my job was to see what's happening in Orange County to tell the people what is good and what is working and what is fun for the community.

[53:42] A big part of that was theater productions and I got to learn a lot about them.

[53:48] One of the biggest impressions I had was when I first attended the Rose Center Theater and saw the quality of productions.

[53:55] My wife and I became members, got to meet members who were working there, actors, and staff and found it a wonderful, wonderful experience, great plays, but more than that was what I saw happening to the young people who were there as actors.

[54:15] They learned a great deal about life and what life meant to them and how to present themselves and many of them went on to great positions.

[54:23] I would hate to see this stop because it's a wonderful thing for the young people of all of our communities, not just Westminster, but all through Orange County, where people come to represent themselves as actors, many of them inexperienced, and through their productions, learn to be confident, good people in our society, and I would love this to continue. Thank you.

[54:52] Scott Ratner, followed by Helen Tramp.

[55:02] Hello, my name is Scott Ratner. I'm the son of Harry Ratner who just spoke and I'm very proud of him, though he spoke off the cuff. I'm afraid I can't, but I've had a long association with the Rose Senator theater dating back to its opening as a performer, audience member and writer.

[55:18] I was honored to co-write a musical with Rose Director Tim Nelson, the premier to the Rose and

[55:25] return for two subsequent productions.

[55:28] Later went on to the Edinburgh Festival Strange in Scotland, where it received five star

[55:34] reviews.

[55:36] Members of its cast have since gone on to star national tours and on Broadway, many not only

[55:42] performed at the Rose early in their careers, but actually got their start there.

[55:47] I recently realized that every member of an unrelated professional caroling group, to which I belong, also performed at the Rose,

[55:55] these are just a few examples of the many opportunities that the Rose Center theater has provided over the years.

[56:02] It's tremendous positive impact on the community should never be taken for granted,

[56:07] to replace the expertise and experience and following the Rose Theater has built over over 20 years,

[56:14] would not only be very difficult, but no doubt, extremely expensive. Thank you very much.

[56:23] Helen Tran, followed by Sarah Fein Tran.

[56:29] Good evening. My name is Helen Tran. I'm here to

[56:33] advocate for extending the contracts with the Rose. That's your feel. Remember me from 10 months ago,

[56:39] the one who is petrified of public speaking, but I'm here 10 months later. I'm still shy

[56:46] still petrified, but I'm still here to advocate because the Rose Center is so important to

[56:50] so many in our community.

[56:55] Honestly, I really don't know what else they can say that hasn't been

[56:58] set already. You're ready aware of the independent findings of the group that you paid for,

[57:03] that said that the Rose's current management yields the best financial outcome for the city.

[57:09] You know how much this theater means to not just Westminster residents, but to schools,

[57:15] two-year churches and surrounded communities as well. We've spoken about how children's lives are

[57:23] for ever-change here. We have shy kids that find a voice and they shine. You have extroverted

[57:30] kids that find creative outlets for all their energy and different cultures come together for a

[57:40] purpose, but here's the reality. The rose is more than just a building. If you remove the

[57:47] people who make the rose what it is, then the spirit of it will cease to exist. And I know that sounds

[57:53] dramatic, but it's the truth. So as a parent of three, an advice president of the local middle school

[58:01] music program, we hold all of our musicals at the rose in the school. And I promise you,

[58:08] The magic isn't in the bricks and walls of that building.

[58:12] It's in the people who operate it.

[58:14] The choreographer who stays late to teach moves and routines.

[58:22] And when a kid messes up, she doesn't get frustrated.

[58:25] She just says, OK, I know we can do better.

[58:28] Let's try again and stay there.

[58:31] It's in the vocal director who guides his children with a smile, always smiling.

[58:37] Never losing his cool until they not only sound phenomenal, but they actually feel really great about themselves and about their accomplishments.

[58:46] It's in the theater manager who takes time to know my kids.

[58:51] Every time we come for a sea of production there, she knows my kids by name and she gives them a hug.

[59:00] You can't pick that.

[59:01] And these are just a few examples of many.

[59:05] I can go on and on with all the staff that's over there that helps.

[59:09] And I have worked with many local theaters, and I promise you, the attitude, the patience,

[59:14] positivity, the kindness, that's what builds the kids, characters, their confidence, and

[59:19] their sense of self-worth.

[59:20] That's what makes the rose, the rose.

[59:24] So yes, extending the contract is the most financially responsible decision you can make today.

[59:29] But beyond that.

[59:31] Your time is up, ma'am. Your time is up. Thank you.

[59:33] If you move the friends of the time wrote for their rose. Thank you.

[59:36] That's the end. Thank you. Thank you.

[59:41] Sarah, fame, tram.

[59:53] Hello, my name is Natalie.

[59:55] My name is Sarah Fee. My name is Waverly.

[59:56] My name is Luke.

[59:57] And we're all students at Huntington Beach High School.

[59:59] And we...

[1:00:00] We'd like to advocate on behalf of extending the contract of the Rose Center Theatre. As well as being high school students, we also attend a academy for the performance arts, which constantly uses the Rose as a rehearsal and performance space. The removal of the theater will greatly affect the students and staff in the programs.

[1:00:16] I have been at the Rose Center Theatre for eight years since I was seven years old, and in those eight years I've done well over 15 shows in the theatre. In those 18 years I've made lifelong best friends and I've learned countless lessons in skills that will help me throughout my entire life.

[1:00:27] I believe that shutting down the rules will take away opportunities from younger generations and from having the same amazing experiences that the rows have given me.

[1:00:37] Unfortunately, it's become a routine at the closing performance of every show I do to question whether it will be the last time I step into the building, perform on the stage, or see all of my friends and mentors.

[1:00:47] The community at the rows has truly become my family and it would mean so much to me to create to keep making new memories and new friends for the rest of my high school experience and awkward.

[1:00:55] The Rose is ours as well as many other performers home, and it has given us a place in which we can feel accepted and do what we love.

[1:01:02] I found my passion for performing through the Rose, and I can say with confidence that my experience is at the rest of the theatre,

[1:01:08] have had a significant impact on shaping me into who I am today.

[1:01:11] I believe if the Rose stays that many other young people's lives can change too.

[1:01:16] The first toy ever performed it was at the Rose Center Theatre.

[1:01:18] I was seven years old and in a production called The Opening Act.

[1:01:21] The Rose changed my life as it was on the state that I discovered my love for theater.

[1:01:27] I honestly don't know who I would be today without the Rose.

[1:01:32] Sorry.

[1:01:33] We urge you to extend this contract.

[1:01:35] Thank you for this opportunity to speak.

[1:01:37] Thank you.

[1:01:46] Roddy Diaz followed by Terry Reins.

[1:01:57] Good afternoon Mayor, council members, members of the community.

[1:02:01] Good afternoon.

[1:02:02] My name is Roddy Diaz.

[1:02:03] I'm with a Latin and Asian hospitality group, one of the proposals for the Rose Center Theater.

[1:02:11] I want to share our proposal in three pillars with you, and I hope you consider our proposal.

[1:02:18] The first pillar is to manage the banquet facility, maximize and close the deficit for the Rose Center.

[1:02:27] The second pillar is to create a commissary kitchen, a community kitchen that can be able to help boost businesses in the area.

[1:02:38] We understand that small businesses is hard for them to get into a brick and mortar.

[1:02:44] It's really expensive nowadays with utilities and insurance for them to get a place to cook or to start up a new culinary adventure.

[1:02:54] So, that's our second pillar. The third pillar will be to work with the current theater to maximize

[1:03:04] programs, support what they do, find funds so they can continue to do what they do and subsidize

[1:03:14] what they do through the banquet and the kitchen aspect of the center. So, that is our proposal.

[1:03:22] I look forward to working with everyone in that proposal.

[1:03:27] I look forward to working with the community.

[1:03:31] Our goal is to continue with the roles theater

[1:03:34] and the 20 years of experience that they have.

[1:03:37] We're only here as a toolbox, so they can expand a little bit further.

[1:03:42] We can go out there and find grants on their behalf

[1:03:46] and we're willing to go to Sacramento if needed.

[1:03:49] And I agree with some of the comments that some of the committees may.

[1:03:54] We are a hospitality group.

[1:03:57] We've been around for over all 30 years.

[1:04:00] We're residents of Rancho Gugamuga.

[1:04:03] We love community.

[1:04:05] We have quite a few government contracts

[1:04:08] with different cities, the fosters community engagement.

[1:04:13] So we're here to support what they do.

[1:04:16] And that is our proposal.

[1:04:19] and I hope you can consider us. Thank you so much.

[1:04:24] Last in-person speaker, Terry Reigns?

[1:04:32] 5.6, email sent. You're choosing who controls both

[1:04:35] row center facilities through a grossly secretive process.

[1:04:38] Staff presents scores of 43-22-21 and 21.

[1:04:41] But no scorecards, ways, rankings, or proof anyone even meets the

[1:04:44] modified minimum qualifications. Why was the RFP's budget criterion and

[1:04:49] 20-point financial plan replaced with big financial considerations?

[1:04:52] where are the post-interview supplements, despite demanding 100% cost recovery?

[1:04:57] There's no comparison of fees, public costs, revenue-

[1:05:00] Financial risk, a recovery potential, just unsusported conclusions, grudously presented as fact to steer our beloved

[1:05:07] community theater and public asset into questionable hands. Theater DNA recommended keeping friends as a theater

[1:05:13] operators with minor changes, but some of you forces combined bid, is staggering 43 to 22 golf. But staff

[1:05:19] refuses to recommend its winner. That screams trouble. I demanded score cards, altered criteria,

[1:05:24] is supplements, qualification reviews, Cedar DNA analyses, and financial comparisons, but receives

[1:05:30] zero records.

[1:05:31] If the record supports the scores release, and if not, Council has no business relying

[1:05:35] on them.

[1:05:36] This isn't a public works project bid.

[1:05:37] The rose center blocks to the residents, not politicians, staff, consultants, or some random

[1:05:41] bidder.

[1:05:43] You have no right to hand over some unproven operators through this fact-concealing black box

[1:05:47] process.

[1:05:48] Without full scoring detail and verified qualifications, Council, you must continue this item.

[1:05:53] not make a bad irreversible decision in an indefensible information blackout.

[1:05:58] How is Campbell, California, Latin, and Asian hospitality group even qualified operating

[1:06:01] both sides?

[1:06:02] They're publicly documented experiences limited to catering food trucks, weddings, and banquet

[1:06:06] events with no verifiable experience management community theater, box office theatrical

[1:06:11] programming and production.

[1:06:13] They may be capable of operating the ballroom side, but not our beloved community theater.

[1:06:18] What justifies scoring them twice as high as our current theater operator with 20 years

[1:06:23] proven success. Nothing. The friends want to continue managing the theater regardless who operates

[1:06:28] the ballroom. Listen to them, listen to us, and the 68 plus emails that you received all

[1:06:32] in favor of the theater and friends. Summary, it was provided. Don't change the theater operator

[1:06:38] and keep the friends. 911 email was sent, erasing a long-term sanction after only six months

[1:06:43] based on an appallingly incomplete one-sided report based solely on the mayor's opinion is

[1:06:48] bad governance. There's no February evidence, minutes, motion, or order. The shamelessly minimizes

[1:06:54] Amy's documented campaigning despite the decisive 311 sanction vote. And the city is a

[1:06:59] attorney's opinion that are tabred conduct by the government code 8314. Indefensively, this report

[1:07:06] labels Amy's unauthorized speaking, a mixed income using her brazen defiance to justify giving

[1:07:13] into it. Seriously, the mayor claims Amy Express regret, but she's offered no public admission,

[1:07:18] apology or commitment to comply with assurance against further political exploitation.

[1:07:23] This deficient staff report even with staff, the slammers, the only document you've got,

[1:07:28] what's the range of it between Charlie and Amy? We want to know what's going on here behind

[1:07:32] closed doors.

[1:07:36] Mayor, we have no further in-person speakers and I have no speakers on Zoom.

[1:07:43] All right. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming out and pick your mind.

[1:07:48] At this time we have a difficult technical difficulty for the monitors that we have up here.

[1:07:54] It's not showing up, so we are going to think five minutes recessed for the fixed monitor.

[1:08:02] So, five minutes recessed.

[1:09:00] So the time now is for $7.49, I would like to continue the City Council meeting.

[1:09:08] So, roll call, please.

[1:09:11] Mayor Win.

[1:09:12] I'm here.

[1:09:13] Vice Mayor Win.

[1:09:14] District 1 Councilwoman Fenwist, Fenwis I, District 2 Council Member Monzo.

[1:09:19] I'm here.

[1:09:20] District 4 Council Member Win.

[1:09:21] I'm here.

[1:09:22] Mayor, you're a core with our members present.

[1:09:24] All right.

[1:09:24] Thank you very much.

[1:09:26] And we are moving on to consent calendar.

[1:09:29] All matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and may be approved by a single motion, followed by a rule called vote.

[1:09:40] There will be no separate discussion of these items, unless members of the city council all staff request that specific items may be moved from the consent calendar for the separate action or discussion.

[1:09:54] At this time, I would like to ask if there is any item the council would want to cool.

[1:10:00] Or a motion to approve, motion to approve mayor. Second, there is motion to approve and the second on the floor.

[1:10:09] I have a motion made by district two council member Mondo seconded by district four council member win to approve the consent calendar as presenting.

[1:10:18] I'll go ahead and call roll, District 1, Councilwoman Fenwess,

[1:10:22] Fenwess I, District 2, Council Member Manzo.

[1:10:26] District 4, Council Member Win.

[1:10:29] Yes.

[1:10:29] Vice-mairwin?

[1:10:31] Marrowin?

[1:10:31] Yes.

[1:10:32] Motion carried 50.

[1:10:34] All right.

[1:10:35] Moving on to public hearing.

[1:10:39] And at this time, before we go into Pacific items,

[1:10:43] I would like to ask,

[1:10:45] City Clerk, go ahead and we meet the instruction for the record please.

[1:10:51] Anyone wishing to speak on an open public hearing may speak in person.

[1:10:55] Speakers during public hearing comments will each have three minutes to speak on each public

[1:10:59] hearing item.

[1:11:01] Any person wishing to address the city council in person should complete a green speaker slip

[1:11:04] that is provided at the entrance to council chambers, submit the card to city clerk staff.

[1:11:09] When your name is called, please step to the podium at that time and state your name

[1:11:12] and city of residence for the record.

[1:11:14] All right, 4.1 public hearing introduced the first reading of an Audinist amending their

[1:11:22] city's policy regarding to the use of military equipment and present the 25 military equipment

[1:11:30] annual report. So may as well as staff report, please. Thank you, Chief.

[1:11:42] Good

[1:11:50] evening Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, City Manager and community members.

[1:11:55] Assembly Bill 41 became law as of January 1, 2022.

[1:12:01] Per Assembly Bill 41 law enforcement agencies are required to obtain approval by ordinance adopting a military equipment use policy from the respective city council.

[1:12:11] Law enforcement agencies are further required to submit an annual military equipment report to their city council for as long as the equipment is available for use.

[1:12:19] Our proposed policy was posted on the city website on August 11, 2026, and we must hold

[1:12:25] at least one community engagement meeting within 30 days of submitting and publicly releasing

[1:12:31] the annual report.

[1:12:33] The community engagement meeting was held at the Police Department on August 19, 2026.

[1:12:38] The community engagement meeting was advertised on social media and received approximately 17,000

[1:12:43] views.

[1:12:44] After the adoption of the current policy, we determined that there was a need to amend the policy with respect to certain equipment.

[1:12:52] The only changes we have proposed from last year's policy are the potential future purchase of drones.

[1:12:59] Any amendment to the policy requires re-initiating the approval process and the passage of a new ordinance adopting the amended military equipment use policy.

[1:13:09] Items deemed to be military equipment by Assembly Bill 41 are used as a component of overall

[1:13:15] best practices for law enforcement agencies throughout the country.

[1:13:20] These tools have been feel tested and are used to enhance public and officer safety.

[1:13:25] Loss of these items would jeopardize the welfare of peace officers and citizens of Westminster,

[1:13:31] whom they serve.

[1:13:33] The term military equipment, as used in Assembly Bill 41, in fact, does not necessarily indicate

[1:13:39] equipment that has been used by or purchased from the military.

[1:13:43] Pursuant to AB 41, items deemed to be military equipment include but are not limited to

[1:13:49] armored vehicles, pepper balls, less lethal, less lethal, 40 millimeter projectile launchers,

[1:13:55] certain firearms and diversionary devices like flashbangs.

[1:13:59] The attached ordinance seeks to amend the existing WPD policy section 706, which constitutes WPD's military equipment use policy.

[1:14:10] Policy 706 outlines each item identified in government code section 7070 that is currently owned by the city.

[1:14:18] Policy 706 also includes the current use and cost of each item.

[1:14:22] These items and their stated uses have been in place prior to the implementation of AB-41.

[1:14:30] What's Mr. Police Department seeks city council adoption of the attached amended military equipment use policy,

[1:14:35] policy 706, to allow WPD to continue to use this vital equipment specified in this policy.

[1:14:42] We are not requesting any additional budget appropriations at this time.

[1:14:47] This concludes my presentation. I'm available to answer any questions you may have.

[1:14:50] Alright, thank you very much for the report and right now, let's open up for a

[1:14:55] Mayor and CDC also a question for staff.

[1:14:58] Is there anything from the dyes?

[1:15:02] Thank you for your report again. You mentioned that the only change was the drone, and that is included in the budget for the purchase.

[1:15:12] The police department budget, yes.

[1:15:14] Okay. That's pretty the only question to have. Thank you. Anything else?

[1:15:25] So you're saying that you're not, you're amending purchasing of drone, is that correct?

[1:15:33] We're many last year's military equipment policy to add the potential purchase of a drone or drones.

[1:15:39] Now, I guess my question is how will the drone be used?

[1:15:43] Absolutely. A drone obviously is a piece of technology that can benefit using that instead of putting

[1:15:48] officers in harm's way in situations like we had two weeks ago over here what they suspected

[1:15:54] arm gunmen inside of a building but utilized drones to go inside and scope out the area before

[1:15:59] we put our officers in a position of disadvantage. So that would be the main type of technology

[1:16:05] use instead of human use to detect people hiding.

[1:16:11] And with the drone, be used for routine civilians.

[1:16:17] And if so, what limit would you apply to it?

[1:16:22] Yeah, we have no intention to use the drone for routine surveillance.

[1:16:25] Only for call service that would benefit the police officer's

[1:16:27] response to the call to save outcome.

[1:16:30] OK.

[1:16:31] Yeah, we just want to make sure that there's check-in balance.

[1:16:33] And I know that you guys used

[1:16:35] wrong for the last incident here,

[1:16:37] and that was phenomenal.

[1:16:38] We really appreciate,

[1:16:39] you know, that expertise you guys have.

[1:16:41] And you guys came in,

[1:16:43] no lives were lost,

[1:16:44] and no one was hurt.

[1:16:46] So that was perfect.

[1:16:47] We really appreciate that.

[1:16:48] That you're using the technology

[1:16:51] appropriately and still keeping the privacy

[1:16:54] and the safety of the people.

[1:16:56] I guess privacy.

[1:16:58] And I really appreciate that.

[1:16:59] Thank you.

[1:17:00] Okay.

[1:17:02] I know that Public Safety is very important to all of us, to the residents, to all of us here, and I think that, you know, with that, I support with whatever the, you know, you, or the fire department that they need to help the residents here. So, with that, I move on the public comments. Is that any public comments for this item today?

[1:17:26] Mayor, we have no comments.

[1:17:29] All right.

[1:17:30] So there's a mayor and council member of discussion or council action is there.

[1:17:35] I can entertain a motion if there is a mayor motion to approve as recommended.

[1:17:41] Okay.

[1:17:41] There's a motion in second by vice mayor.

[1:17:45] I have a motion made by district to council member Monzo seconded by vice mayor when

[1:17:50] to introduce an ordinance entitled an ordinance of the mayor and city council of the city

[1:17:55] Westminster, California, amending the city's policy regarding the use of military equipment

[1:18:00] read by title only in way further reading and receive and file the 2025 military equipment

[1:18:06] annual report. I'll go ahead and call roll. District 1, Councilwoman Fenwist, Fenwist I,

[1:18:11] District 2, Council Member Monso, District 4, Council Member Win. Yes. Vice Mayor Win? Yes.

[1:18:17] Mayor Win? Yes. Motion carried 50. All right, moving on to 4.2, public hearing, consideration of

[1:18:24] an application to the Orange County Transportation Authority, OCETA-2026, enhanced

[1:18:31] on mobility for seniors and individuals with disabilities, grant programs for Americans with

[1:18:38] disability at ADA. Assessible bus replacement at this time, I would like to ask for the

[1:18:46] please to

[1:18:57] apply through OCTAs, 2026 enhanced mobility for seniors and

[1:19:03] individual individuals with disabilities grant program. If awarded the

[1:19:08] funding would allow the city to replace up to two aging, ADA accessible

[1:19:13] vehicles, use for our Westminster and Wheels, but are known as a wow

[1:19:18] senior transportation program.

[1:19:25] Just to be background the enhanced mobility for

[1:19:28] and individuals with disabilities or EMSD grant program is administered by OCTOCTA and funded through the Federal Transit Administration Section 5310 program.

[1:19:41] The program provides funding to improve transportation services for seniors and individuals with disabilities, including funding for vehicle purchases.

[1:19:52] OCT OCT A has made up to 5.85 million available through the 2026 program.

[1:20:00] As part of the application process, the city is required to hold this public hearing, coordinate with non-profit transportation providers, adopt a resolution, authorizing the application, and commit the required local match.

[1:20:15] The application is due to OCTA this Friday, August 28th.

[1:20:23] The City currently operates the Wow Transportation Program through the Westminster Senior Center.

[1:20:28] It provides free weekday transportation for Westminster residents, ages 60 and older,

[1:20:34] and helps our seniors remain independent and connected with services within the community.

[1:20:40] The program provides, includes our nutrition band program,

[1:20:44] which transports our seniors participating in the congregate meal program,

[1:20:48] as well as our Shuttle Program, which provides scheduled transportation between the Senior Center,

[1:20:54] Senior Housing Communities, Mobile Home Parks, and Shopping Destinations. These trips provide

[1:21:00] access to meals, groceries, pharmacies, health and wellness programs, exercise classes,

[1:21:07] and social and recreational activities.

[1:21:13] The Wild Fleet currently consists of four 88

[1:21:16] accessible vehicles through this grant,

[1:21:19] we're proposing to replace two of our older buses.

[1:21:22] Both vehicles have exceeded their useful mechanical life

[1:21:26] and were originally acquired second hand

[1:21:29] from OCTA after being used in their access program.

[1:21:33] As these vehicles have aged,

[1:21:35] we've experienced increasing maintenance costs,

[1:21:38] declining reliability, reoccurring mechanical

[1:21:41] and electrical issues that have resulted

[1:21:43] in additional downtime.

[1:21:45] Replacing these in vehicles will help us maintain reliable transportation for our seniors while reducing potential service impacts.

[1:21:57] The city is proposing to purchase up to two new ADA accessible replacement vehicles.

[1:22:02] These new vehicles will provide updated safety and accessibility features and improve reliability and lower maintenance needs.

[1:22:10] We are also proposing smaller vehicles and the buses that are in our current fleet.

[1:22:15] The smaller vehicles are better suited for navigating Western Australia neighborhoods, especially our mobile home parks and senior living communities.

[1:22:24] They would also provide greater operational flexibility by expanding the pool of qualified drivers who can operate the vehicles.

[1:22:36] The total estimated project cost is $363,000.

[1:22:40] dollars, they say will be requesting 326,700 from OCTA grant with a required 10% local

[1:22:49] match of $36,300.

[1:22:52] The estimated cost for the two vehicles is 330,000 or approximately 165 each with an additional

[1:22:59] 10% contingency.

[1:23:02] The city's local match would come from existing Title III older American acts, transportation

[1:23:06] funds that are already being held by the city for senior transportation purposes.

[1:23:13] Therefore, no general fund appropriation would be required for the local match.

[1:23:21] Tonight's public hearing satisfies the OCTA's requirement for the grant application

[1:23:26] for public agencies.

[1:23:28] It is recommended that the city council receive public comments regarding transportation

[1:23:33] needs for seniors and individuals with disabilities and the city's proposed grant

[1:23:38] application. Following this public hearing, staff recommends adoption of the

[1:23:43] Resolution authorizing the city to submit the application for up to two

[1:23:47] replacement vehicles, commit the $36,300 local match, and authorize the city

[1:23:54] manager or doesn't need to execute the necessary documents. If approved

[1:23:59] tonight, staff will finalize and submit the application to OCTA by the August 28th

[1:24:04] online. So with that that concludes my presentation and I am happy to answer any questions along

[1:24:11] with our senior center supervisor Heather Dodg. All right thank you for the presentation right now

[1:24:16] I'm open up for Mayor and city council question for staff. Anything from the dyes? Just one again. All right good.

[1:24:25] Thank you Mayor. We have council member mental. Thank you for your staff report. The two vehicles

[1:24:32] What year are they? It was not mentioned in here. How old are they?

[1:24:38] The current no the old ones the old one

[1:24:45] Thank you. That's all I got thank you anything else from the

[1:24:52] Stop if not I will move to public comments. I have a question. Thank you. Thank you

[1:25:00] Mr. Mayor,

[1:25:02] I really appreciate that you guys have this service for a disability and senior folks. That means a lot because it helped them to get the normal routine to still be part of society and do their things that they want to do to enjoy their senior life. I really appreciate that. Now for the last year with your guys, the van, I know I see it drive around as well. How many people have you service and help in the city?

[1:25:35] I will defer to Heather, she's the expert in those programs.

[1:25:39] All right.

[1:25:40] Yes.

[1:25:40] So we address on a daily anywhere from 36 to 54 one-way trips to our center.

[1:25:45] That includes both our nutrition program that comes in here to eat the daily lunch program

[1:25:50] as well as our social recreational or art programs, our exercise fitness and wellness lectures

[1:25:55] and access to our community fitness center outside, as well as the nutrition book.

[1:25:59] Bus that will pick them up and take them to the shopping centers.

[1:26:01] We do have higher days such as only have our special events.

[1:26:04] We may transport upwards of 50 plus that day,

[1:26:07] so they'll be making multiple trips.

[1:26:09] So the vans are operational from pretty much

[1:26:11] eight to about 12-3-1 non-stop transporting

[1:26:14] multiple trips per day.

[1:26:16] Okay, so eight, eight, and to 12 pm.

[1:26:19] Eight, eight, and to one pm are service hours.

[1:26:21] Most of the time they're back to check the vehicle

[1:26:23] and do post-trip inspections by 12-30 to one,

[1:26:27] so that they're off by one, 30 to two.

[1:26:28] Okay. And then when you pick those residents up, I know that you say between 36 to 54 people a day.

[1:26:41] That's really good. Now, do you have a contact number that they call in to have you guys come pick them up or do they do email or what?

[1:26:50] So the way that our program works is you must be a registered writer to participate with our Nutrition Van program because they have to prove residency

[1:26:56] as well as age verification with us, they have two options, they can either choose to be on a

[1:27:01] subscription basis where they give us their days that they're going to come in perhaps

[1:27:04] maybe every day of the week or they come Monday to stay Wednesday or they can do a per time instance

[1:27:10] for a reservation, we ask for 24 hours notice up to a week or more so that we can make sure we do

[1:27:15] have space and limitations so the subscription is a guarantee versus if they call for one of

[1:27:20] such as our special events, they may have to call in earlier to make sure they receive the

[1:27:25] reservation, but we do have stuffing for dispatch to take the registration as well as to take

[1:27:30] their calls and let them know that they want to be picked up from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. in our center,

[1:27:36] and then we dispatch them out to our transportation. We also have the ability to wall the drivers

[1:27:40] are out, especially in our nutrition routes. We give them a window to shop so that they know what time

[1:27:46] to expect to be picked up and then to return to the bus that. But if their plans change for some

[1:27:50] and perhaps the store is busy and they take longer and they're missing their time to pick up.

[1:27:54] They can call us or if they meet succeed in their shopping faster.

[1:27:58] They can call a center and if the driver is available to be reached safely,

[1:28:01] we can dispatch them back to pick up early to help reduce the times that they're waiting at the

[1:28:05] shopping centers to be your turn home or back to the center.

[1:28:08] Okay and do you have a contact that you can say it out here so people can call?

[1:28:14] Absolutely. They can call directly to the Senior Center at 714-895-2878.

[1:28:20] and we can help coordinate that.

[1:28:22] Okay, perfect.

[1:28:23] And then with this grant, would you guys,

[1:28:27] are you guys interested in increase the number

[1:28:30] of residents in your folks that you're,

[1:28:33] yes, it's going to take?

[1:28:34] We do hope to increase the number

[1:28:36] by having more accessible driver options

[1:28:38] in the pool to pool from,

[1:28:40] as well as making the vehicles more accessible

[1:28:42] to more areas in easier for people to board.

[1:28:44] Currently a challenge we face is a lot of our vehicles.

[1:28:47] Do all have AD accessibility with the ramp

[1:28:49] And the lift in the back, but they're also, if they're entering from a friend and are still mobile, they're stairs to climb the vehicles that we're looking to procure our straight walk on curb heights, so it eliminates the stairs, which will help boarding times be faster for our seniors because they're not waiting for the lift to be operational and up and down at each stop, as well as it's a safer option because they're not having to navigate any stairs, they can either roll right on with their mobility device from the curb height or if they're at state level, or they can walk right on. So it'll be much more safer or older adults that may have mobility challenges to eat.

[1:29:19] to enter and exit the vehicle as well as our seniors that maybe don't have the best

[1:29:23] mobility.

[1:29:24] Okay, that's perfect.

[1:29:25] Thank you so much.

[1:29:26] I really appreciate that Heather.

[1:29:28] Anything else?

[1:29:30] While on behalf of the city staff in the city council, we would like to thank you.

[1:29:35] I know that you guys are taking care of our seniors very well and you pay attention to that.

[1:29:41] So we appreciate for the effort that you put in and hopefully that we continue to do that

[1:29:46] for our seniors.

[1:29:49] So if there's anything, let us know, but at this time, I would like to move up to, I would like to move to public comments.

[1:29:56] See the club, do we have any?

[1:29:58] Mayor, we have no impersonal.

[1:30:00] All right, the move on to Mayor and council member discussion and action. Motion to approve.

[1:30:07] I second it. Okay, motion is second on the floor.

[1:30:10] I have a motion made by district two council member Monto seconded by district one councilwoman fan West to receive public comments regarding the transportation needs of seniors and individuals with disabilities within the city of Westminster and the city's proposed application to the Orange County

[1:30:28] Transportation Authorities 2026 enhance mobility for seniors and individuals with disabilities grant program and adopt a resolution entitled

[1:30:38] A resolution of the mayor and city council of the city of Westminster California authorizing submission of an application to the Orange County Transportation Authorities 2026

[1:30:47] Enhance mobility for seniors and individuals with disabilities grant program for capital funding to purchase up to 280 accessible replacement buses

[1:30:57] for the Westminster Senior Center's Westminster on Will's Transportation Program, committing the required local fund matching designating the city manager or designate as the city's representative authorized to submit and execute all documents necessary to apply for an administer the grant.

[1:31:14] I'll go ahead and call roll. District 1, Councilwoman Fenwess, Fenwess I, District 2, Council Member Monso, District 4, Council Member Win.

[1:31:22] Yes.

[1:31:24] Vice Mayor Win?

[1:31:25] Yes.

[1:31:25] Mayor Win?

[1:31:25] Yes.

[1:31:26] Motion carried 5-0.

[1:31:27] Now, let us move into regular business.

[1:31:31] This is 5.1.

[1:31:32] Continue from the August 17, 2021.

[1:31:35] The 6th as adjourned, regular meeting.

[1:31:38] Strategic plan, goal number 5.

[1:31:41] Enhance quality of life and beautification throughout the city.

[1:31:45] The strategic plan, objective is provide an update on the status of the parks and

[1:31:52] recreation for COD's master plan.

[1:31:56] So, stop report, please.

[1:32:01] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:32:02] Good evening again.

[1:32:03] So tonight, we're pleased to provide an update

[1:32:05] on the city's parks and recreation facilities master plan.

[1:32:09] The master plan was adopted in 2020 as a long-range road map

[1:32:14] to help guide the city's investments

[1:32:16] in parks, facilities, recreation programs,

[1:32:20] operations, and future community needs.

[1:32:23] Tonight's presentation is really an opportunity to look back at the progress that's been made over the past six years where we are today and some of the priorities and opportunities we are looking at moving ahead.

[1:32:41] So this update also responds directly to strategic plan goal number five, which calls for an update on the status of the Parks and Recreation Facility Recreation Facilities Master Plan.

[1:32:54] Before we get into the numbers, I do want to clarify the scope of tonight's review.

[1:32:58] This is a mid-cycle implementation update, not a comprehensive update or re-evaluation

[1:33:05] of the entire master plan.

[1:33:08] Not every individual recommendation contained in the plan was specifically re-evaluated

[1:33:13] as part of this process.

[1:33:15] Our focus was really on documenting what we've accomplished, identifying work currently

[1:33:20] underway and highlighting key priorities and opportunities as we continue implementation.

[1:33:29] To provide some background, the master plan was adopted by the city council in March of 2020.

[1:33:35] Of course, that timing is significant. It came essentially at the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic,

[1:33:42] which significantly affected city operations and recreation services.

[1:33:47] The years that followed were challenging, but despite the very unusual beginning,

[1:33:51] implementation of the plan continued. In 2022, the City Council adopted its strategic plan,

[1:33:58] and October of 2025, the Council identified this mid-cycle review as an objective

[1:34:03] under strategic plan goal number five.

[1:34:10] This brings us to where we are today, six years into

[1:34:13] the implementation and an appropriate time to take a look at our progress and the work that remains ahead.

[1:34:21] So this slide provides the big picture implementation status for purposes of the review with the help of our consultant and my G who worked on the original plan.

[1:34:32] We've tracked 125

[1:34:35] Action items across four major categories of the master plan.

[1:34:42] It's important to put these numbers into context.

[1:34:44] These 120 items should not be viewed as 125 funded projects or commitments that are all expected to be completed by this point.

[1:34:53] These recommendations very slightly, I'm sorry, significantly in their scope and complexity.

[1:35:00] Some are discrete capital projects that can be easily completed. While others are programs and operational practices that are ongoing by their nature.

[1:35:12] Others are long-term initiatives that may require additional evaluation, significant funding, partnerships, redevelopment, or broader city policy decisions before they can move forward.

[1:35:24] In fact, one of the implementation strategies identified in the master plan was to pursue quick wins.

[1:35:32] Projects and initiatives that could be accomplished in the near future that can demonstrate progress and build community support.

[1:35:41] While continue to work towards the plans longer and more complex goals.

[1:35:45] Again, because this was an implementation review, rather than a comprehensive update of the master plan,

[1:35:53] not every proposed recommendation was individually re-aballuated at this point in the process.

[1:36:00] What we will, but we will re-progress in four categories.

[1:36:08] The first category is parks and facilities, and this is where some of the most visible progress can be seen.

[1:36:15] Of the 47, of the 47 items tracked in this category, 26 have been completed and another

[1:36:24] four are currently underway.

[1:36:27] These investments represent significant improvements throughout Westminster's park system and

[1:36:33] touch parks and neighborhoods throughout the city.

[1:36:37] Just a few of the compliments are highlighted here.

[1:36:40] We've completed 12 priority playground renovations that were identified in the master plan.

[1:36:45] We added the city's first-lighted soccer field at Singler Park.

[1:36:51] We added pickleball courts at both Singler and Tony Lam Parks.

[1:36:56] We added the Cherry Street community garden.

[1:37:00] And we've completed trail and bikeway improvements,

[1:37:03] including the garden grove bikeway.

[1:37:06] We've got a grove boulevard bikeway and the Mendez historic freedom trail.

[1:37:11] These are just a few examples of the physical investments that have occurred since the adoption of the master plan.

[1:37:20] This before and after at Sigler Park is a great example of how we've been able to rethink and better utilize existing park space.

[1:37:29] In 2020, this area of Sigler Park was an underutilized baseball field.

[1:37:34] Today, it's been transformed into the city's first dedicated soccer field, providing much needed recreational,

[1:37:40] and creating a significantly more active part.

[1:37:44] It is a great example of taking existing Park Act asset

[1:37:48] and adapting it to better meet the current

[1:37:51] recreational needs of our community.

[1:37:56] Playground renovations have also been

[1:37:59] a major area of investment.

[1:38:01] This before and after is just one example

[1:38:03] of the transformation we've seen throughout our park system.

[1:38:08] We've completed 12 renovations,

[1:38:11] But our focus hasn't simply been replacing aging equipment.

[1:38:16] We've really tried to create a more of an experience and identity at each of our parks.

[1:38:21] In the past, many of our playgrounds look very similar. You'd see that yellow slide at every single park.

[1:38:29] With these renovations, we've intentionally incorporated unique things and designs that give each

[1:38:34] playground their own character and create a more memorable experience for families.

[1:38:43] That approach has been incredibly well received by the community, and it's something we're

[1:38:48] very proud of as we continue investing in our parks.

[1:38:52] And as you'll see later, playground improvements continue to be one of our priorities moving

[1:38:56] forward.

[1:38:58] So this next category, programs and events, I was like, it's more than just a park.

[1:39:05] One thing important about the master plan is it isn't limited to just construction.

[1:39:10] Parks really become assets when people have reasons to use them.

[1:39:15] In this category 29 of 32 tracked actions have either been implemented or ongoing.

[1:39:25] Today, the city provides a number of signature community events annually.

[1:39:31] And when we say signature events were really referring to some of our larger community wide celebrations.

[1:39:37] In addition to those major events, our team produces and supports numerous other special events.

[1:39:43] seasonal activities, community gatherings, and programs throughout the year.

[1:39:48] We've expanded our recreation classes in areas that include fitness, arts, science

[1:39:53] technology, and mathematics, also known STEM, cultural programming, and wellness activities.

[1:40:02] With year-round programs that serve youth families, adults and seniors, we've expanded and enhanced our mobile recreation program that allows us to bring more recreational opportunities directly into neighborhoods and parks, particularly in those areas that our access is traditionally limited.

[1:40:23] Many of the recommendations in this category are intentionally classified as ongoing because

[1:40:29] successful implementation does not simply mean offering event or program just once.

[1:40:36] It means continuing to provide, grow and evolve those opportunities these year after year.

[1:40:44] Here you can see the Cherry Street Plaza.

[1:40:46] It's a good example of how several master plan goals can come together at one location.

[1:40:52] We've added the community garden and have continued looking at opportunities to activate the new

[1:40:57] Plaza area through community programming, including the Cherry Street Eats program and community block

[1:41:04] parties at the dining pads. It's not just about creating physical space, but about creating opportunities

[1:41:11] for people to gather, participate, and connect with their community.

[1:41:18] This is our next category,

[1:41:20] it's maintenance and operations. This category looks different from the other two so it's worth

[1:41:26] acknowledging. Of the 19 tracked items, one is complete, five are in progress, six are on going

[1:41:33] and seven remain future priorities. Many of these recommendations aren't one-time projects that

[1:41:40] can simply be checked off. They involve ongoing maintenance practices, operational systems, staffing,

[1:41:47] asset management, sustainability, and long-term planning.

[1:41:52] This is also an area where the review has identified additional work needs to be continued.

[1:42:00] Today the city is responsible for maintaining 25 parks, sports fields, community facilities,

[1:42:06] the splash pad, and the expanding trail network.

[1:42:09] It's important to recognize that every investment we've talked about, tonight, also creates

[1:42:14] an ongoing maintenance responsibility.

[1:42:16] Every new playground field, court trails, shade structure, and other amenity ultimately becomes something that needs to be maintained.

[1:42:27] We are moving forward with the facilities we are currently moving forward with the facilities master plan and the American with disabilities act known as ADA transition plan.

[1:42:37] These will help provide additional information to guide future maintenance, asset management, accessibility, and capital investment needs.

[1:42:46] So as we continue investing in our parks system, we also need to continue evaluating resources and systems necessary to sustain those investments along term.

[1:43:00] Final category is made as administration and management.

[1:43:04] This

[1:43:07] category is really about building the organization capacity necessary to support everything we are discussing.

[1:43:14] It includes staffing, policies, planning, funding strategies, partnerships, data collection,

[1:43:20] communications, and other administrative systems that support implementation of the master plan.

[1:43:28] We've made some significant progress in this area as well.

[1:43:32] We've expanded our organizational capacity with eight new full-time positions.

[1:43:36] We've established the Park Ranger Program with two full-time

[1:43:40] users currently serving the community and a third that was recently approved.

[1:43:45] We've established the adopt-apark program expanding opportunities for the

[1:43:49] community involvement, re-established the cultural arts commission to support

[1:43:53] arts and cultural programming throughout the city. These improvements may not

[1:43:57] always be visible like a new playground or a sports field but are important

[1:44:02] because they build the city's capacity to deliver services

[1:44:05] and continue implementing the master plan.

[1:44:10] We've also significantly changed

[1:44:12] how we communicate with our community.

[1:44:15] Here's just one small example.

[1:44:16] You can see the difference between what our recreation newsletter

[1:44:20] look like in 2020 and what it looks like today.

[1:44:24] It's full color and we are able to provide a better

[1:44:29] product at a lower cost.

[1:44:33] Our recreation guide, our newsletter, social media and other outreach tools have significantly expanded our ability to connect with residents to our programs, activities, our events, and opportunities throughout the city.

[1:44:50] That brings us to where we are going next.

[1:44:54] Through this nid cycle review, five areas have been identified as near-term priorities

[1:44:59] and...

[1:45:00] Opportunities. Continued sports court resurfacing, continued playground renovations, expansion of the mobile recreation program, shade structure replacement and additions, and Liberty Park site planning and grant readiness.

[1:45:16] I do want to emphasize that let me go back.

[1:45:24] I do want to emphasize that these should not be viewed as five fully funded capital projects.

[1:45:30] They represent areas that we believe are appropriate to continue advancing as funding

[1:45:35] project readiness and other opportunities become available.

[1:45:39] Implementation will need to occur project by project and may rely on a combination of city resources,

[1:45:45] capital improvement, program funding,

[1:45:49] park dedication funds, where eligible grants,

[1:45:52] partnerships, developed, related funding,

[1:45:54] and other outside funding opportunities.

[1:45:57] Liberty Park is a good example of this approach,

[1:46:01] with the new statewide park grant opportunity

[1:46:03] anticipated this year.

[1:46:05] Liberty Park presents an opportunity to explore

[1:46:08] whether outside granting grant funding

[1:46:10] could support more comprehensive park renovation.

[1:46:15] This specific project scope has not been determined and would require additional planning,

[1:46:21] community engagement, funding analysis, and ultimately an appropriate city council approval

[1:46:27] before moving forward.

[1:46:32] So ultimately, that's what this mid-cycle update is about.

[1:46:36] We've made some meaningful progress in the last six years, but there's certainly more work to do.

[1:46:42] And some of the recommendations contained in the original plan will require additional evaluation as we move forward.

[1:46:50] But we have the roadmap to continue to provide valuable guidance for our parks and recreation system.

[1:46:57] Building on the progress we've made, the City Council will continue to invest in quality parks, expand recreation opportunities,

[1:47:03] and implement the Parks and Recreation Facility Maths for Pellin as resources and opportunities allow.

[1:47:12] So with that that concludes the presentation.

[1:47:14] Both Jake and I are happy to answer any questions the council may have.

[1:47:19] Thank you.

[1:47:19] Excellent presentation.

[1:47:21] Thank you very much for putting it together.

[1:47:25] Just one dimension that I had the opportunities to do the grant openings.

[1:47:39] I have to say thank you so much for putting effort into it and why don't you help me put your hand together and thanks them for what it is for this.

[1:47:57] And with that, I moved to receive and file report on file, the report.

[1:48:03] But you guys can go ahead and, you know, comment, so provide input later on.

[1:48:10] So my motion is to receive and file report.

[1:48:13] I second it.

[1:48:14] But before that, I would like for you to go back to the slide number six and seven.

[1:48:20] Because I love it so much that I need to talk about it.

[1:48:27] So, these are the highlights that they put up for us, so that we can see.

[1:48:35] So, how many total parks that we actually, we model or we renovation this year?

[1:48:44] Do you have that in mind?

[1:48:48] Sorry.

[1:48:49] So, that's okay.

[1:48:50] Some of the parks that have multiple, they've had a playground and a court resurfacing or a playground and a new facility.

[1:48:58] Sure. I would say at least 12 playgrounds, so many, so many, so many, you can't even keep

[1:49:09] track. Yeah, it's hard to keep track, but yeah, 12 playgrounds, pickable course soccer

[1:49:16] fields, community gardens, boy, it's a lot. Yeah, I know, it's a lot, that's why I can't even

[1:49:24] and keep track of it.

[1:49:25] So thank you for coming.

[1:49:27] Record parts in recreation, also from the public works.

[1:49:32] You guys, you know, help for getting this project going.

[1:49:37] So thank you so much.

[1:49:38] So at this point here, I will open up for any comments

[1:49:41] from the desk.

[1:49:42] I have a couple of comments.

[1:49:43] I mean, council member of council.

[1:49:45] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:49:45] Here it says playgrounds renovation is 12 or 14 priority parks

[1:49:49] have been completing new playground equipment

[1:49:51] and see if safety

[1:49:53] We certainly seem some great job.

[1:49:56] My question I have for you is on the...

[1:50:00] On the proposed projects, the one about the Handball Courage repurposing. What ideas do you have? What ideas is from staff for those ones?

[1:50:12] So we have proposed, there's a number of things we could do. Pickleball is one of the options. It's easy. That footprint of a Handball Court converting to a single pickleball court is a very viable option.

[1:50:30] That being said, we have proposed that at other parks and it was not well received.

[1:50:37] So with any of these projects, it's not, this isn't the green light to go.

[1:50:41] We would do extensive specific outreach at each of those sites to see what was desired.

[1:50:48] If it's still a desirable option for those sites, things have changed over the last six years.

[1:50:54] And, you know, we recognize that.

[1:50:57] So, none of these projects would move forward

[1:50:59] without engaging in the community

[1:51:01] and those user groups specific to each of those sites.

[1:51:05] I just caution about the Sigler Park Handball Court.

[1:51:09] That has a lot of culture significance with the mural

[1:51:13] that's on the side.

[1:51:15] So, absolutely.

[1:51:15] Absolutely.

[1:51:15] I will caution about that one for sure.

[1:51:17] Absolutely.

[1:51:21] Then I know a lot of these projects

[1:51:23] that we've done have been with ARPA funding and I see that we had a lot of some of the projects

[1:51:30] mentioned here. They've been on the books for as far as to do list for quite some time.

[1:51:38] What efforts have been made in those in regards to funding for some of those?

[1:51:44] Has there been any efforts to like grant up to, you know, fill out some grant opportunities for

[1:51:50] to do some of those projects that we have been on the books for a while, is there anything

[1:51:54] of that been done for those particular projects?

[1:52:04] You know, over the years, staff keep continuing to seeking for outside grants for any improvement

[1:52:10] in the parks, that's one of the reasons why that we look at this, the liberty park as

[1:52:16] the state grant that we were trying to go after in a, you know, just to do a different

[1:52:23] amenities to to sacrifice the grant requirement. But in any maintenance or replacement for the playground,

[1:52:31] typically there's no grant for that type of improvements. I see some we have some like for example,

[1:52:37] I don't know we've I since I've been around. This is my days in the planning commission's been a while. I

[1:52:43] know we've always talked about the Navy trail, the segments that we can control. I know

[1:52:49] wrong control, that all thing, but has there been any effort from to get some funding for those

[1:52:58] specifically for a grant or anything, or which is relying only on our funding only?

[1:53:06] Yeah, I can jump in. So as far as the grant efforts for parks, they have not been as robust as

[1:53:13] grant efforts in other subjects such as, for example, in transportation, you've seen a lot of the

[1:53:20] I think the pairing up with Townsend Public Affairs to help us with grants overall, I think it kind of levels the playing field in other disciplines where the city staff are not as, I don't have a level of expertise for that.

[1:53:37] We're also looking to explore strategies to utilize other funds to improve our parks in a way where we're really overhauling the park and not just maintenance,

[1:53:50] because there is no grants for maintenance, we know that.

[1:53:53] So we are definitely behind the curve,

[1:53:55] I think on doing what I think the council would expect

[1:53:59] just to do as far as seeking competitive grants

[1:54:02] since the adoption of the plan.

[1:54:04] But I would say that right now,

[1:54:06] we are definitely very focused on grant efforts

[1:54:09] moving forward with a more aggressive strategy.

[1:54:12] Because I know there's those grant opportunities out there,

[1:54:15] I just was wondering if we made any efforts

[1:54:18] to capture some of those opportunities.

[1:54:22] Right now we are definitely active.

[1:54:24] I think your question was,

[1:54:25] what have we done since the adoption of the plan?

[1:54:27] I would say it's not something

[1:54:29] that we're exactly proud of,

[1:54:32] as far as the effort that's gone into

[1:54:34] seeking those grant funds for parks,

[1:54:36] but that is not the case at this time.

[1:54:38] Because I know we've done a great job.

[1:54:40] We've had reports in the past

[1:54:42] from staff as far as our events have.

[1:54:45] I'm pretty sure I can use it.

[1:54:46] I can safely use it. We're double. It's not tripled in the events, so and that department. I know staff's been doing a great job there

[1:54:55] And some of these other ones you highlighted, but just some of these long these projects that been

[1:55:00] The conversation for many, many years, like what efforts have been made there, so I'm just wondering for that, you know, what, because I know we've used a lot of the ARP and funding to be able to do some of these renovations or upgrades to the playground equipment and to the, you know, the baseball fields and the soccer fields and those are really popular and everybody's happy about those.

[1:55:24] But some of these other ones we probably should look at, try to capture some funding or come up with some funding.

[1:55:34] You know, just not solely depend on the ARPA funding that we have.

[1:55:39] Because that's not going to move running out of that.

[1:55:42] So hopefully we can, we can do that.

[1:55:44] If I can actually just add to that as well, you know, I will say when this Parks Master Plan was adopted, you know,

[1:55:50] as right around COVID and then with the ARPA funding.

[1:55:55] If it wasn't for the ARPA funding,

[1:55:57] and I will confidently say,

[1:55:59] if it wasn't for the ARPA funding,

[1:56:01] a lot of these improvements would not have been made.

[1:56:06] And we wouldn't see all these successes

[1:56:08] that we've had the last few years.

[1:56:10] But with that being said,

[1:56:12] they're also the period of prioritizing

[1:56:15] and the parks making life better.

[1:56:18] But that is definitely a priority for us.

[1:56:21] It is definitely one of those things that was put on the back burner because of financial

[1:56:28] obviously financial priorities.

[1:56:31] Certainly this is a great time for us to start looking for long-term, long-term feasibility

[1:56:37] of maintaining parks and making sure that as parks reach their end of life on equipment,

[1:56:42] et cetera, that we've toured that, but that's also part of, with this particular plan

[1:56:48] and the upcoming facilities master plan, we're going to be looking at how we systematically

[1:56:54] save and fund those types of things. Grants, when it comes to grants, there are always two

[1:57:02] components there, right? There's generally a matching portion of it, which is required, and in order

[1:57:09] to qualify for it, we have to show that we're able to imagine, we weren't able to for quite some

[1:57:15] time not, you know, up until the last, like a couple of years.

[1:57:18] The other side of that too is the creativity and I know that's been a concern of council

[1:57:23] in some areas that some of these part grants require a level of design creativity that

[1:57:29] we lack sometimes and it also requires time for us to look into some of these improvements.

[1:57:37] So this is a great starting point and as we move forward with different plans also includes

[1:57:44] strategic plan if that's something that council wants us to really dive into what we're going to do

[1:57:50] as far as long term, you know, parks planning. That's certainly a great time in order for us to

[1:57:56] to have those discussions as well as we move toward, you know, a budget and where we want to

[1:58:00] allocate funds and if we want to allocate improvement funds, specifically for park improvements,

[1:58:07] we can really do that in a much more robust way. Yes, I agree. I just I know we have

[1:58:12] It's a great success with team with our Garden Grove Boulevard or Bike Trail, and the Mendez Freedom Trail.

[1:58:19] We were able to capture some kind of opportunity there.

[1:58:23] And I see that one of the proposed ones is Board Street Bikeways, so that would be another great project

[1:58:29] that we can pretty hang our head on on that.

[1:58:32] We get that complete.

[1:58:34] So maybe we can make some of those, what we learned with those other ones.

[1:58:38] Absolutely, I think going back to something that you brought up a few years ago when you've

[1:58:42] was joined the council as, you know, we have opportunities to continue to improve our roadways

[1:58:47] without impacting a motorist, but making it more a multi-modal approach if anybody's ever been

[1:58:53] in the singular park area. The streets are super wide. We've talked about, you know, green, green street

[1:59:00] solutions for those areas that allow people to essentially utilize more of that street. It's

[1:59:06] for five vehicles total, but it's truly a one, it's one-lane

[1:59:10] in each direction. It's a lot of excess roadway that leads to other problems.

[1:59:13] So we can beautify and also bring in green, green spaces and things of that nature.

[1:59:17] Yes, that's a great, great, great, great.

[1:59:19] Great, great, great. I have a great opportunity.

[1:59:22] So thank you, Mayor. All right. Anything else?

[1:59:24] Yes, Mr. Mayor? Yes.

[1:59:26] Yes.

[1:59:26] Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:59:30] This is phenomenal.

[1:59:32] I totally appreciate you guys.

[1:59:35] you know public work to park and racks and of course of Dolphas. Well you guys do an amazing job.

[1:59:42] And I have nothing to but praise. I want to share this quick. There was a resident in district one

[1:59:49] his name is Mike and he has complained regarding the Bolsa Chica Park and there was water, you know, was leaking and

[2:00:01] And when it's brought to my attention, I brought it to Jake at CCM on the email. And Jake within the day, he came out there and take a look at it. And then within two days it's done. So I have nothing bad to talk about our department head, because you guys are on top of it. And I'm so thankful. And that is an example of how our city is working with the council, working with the public.

[2:00:29] and the trust is there. And I just want to encourage you guys to keep doing an amazing job,

[2:00:35] the trust, they just love you guys. So when you guys are on top like that, it's phenomenal. And so

[2:00:40] I want to say thank you.

[2:00:43] All right. Anything else? Yes, or vice mayor? Yeah, no, we've done a

[2:00:48] 12 playground renovation. Are there any other parts where there's a need of a playground equipment

[2:00:55] replacement? Yes. The rest need to be replaced.

[2:01:05] I'm dating myself here, but they were almost

[2:01:09] all done at the same time. Read done in their old version at the same time. So they've all

[2:01:15] outlived their lifespan. So we are actively working with TPA to find grants for playground renovations

[2:01:23] and those kind of things. But yes, we want to continue that for sure, continue bringing new

[2:01:29] experiences that diverse kind of look up playgrounds to the rest of our sites.

[2:01:34] All right, thank you for the fantastic.

[2:01:35] All right, if there is no order coming, then we have motion and second on the front.

[2:01:41] I have a motion made by Mayor Wind seconded by District 1, Councilwoman Fanwess, to receive and

[2:01:46] the report. District 1, Councilwoman Fan West, Fan West, I, District 2, Council Member Monzo.

[2:01:54] Yes. District 4, Council Member Win. Yes. Vice Mayor Win? Yes. Mayor Win? Yes. Motion carried

[2:02:00] 5-0. Moving on to 5.2, we fund an unexpected funds from the West Orange County Waterborne

[2:02:08] for Catholic protection. So if there's anything that you want to say about this,

[2:02:16] Yeah, no, so this is a refund from the West Orange County Water Board.

[2:02:20] If the Mayor and Council remember that back in 2020,

[2:02:24] the Board approved the cathodic protection, which is for

[2:02:28] to protect the two water main for the import water into the city of Westminster.

[2:02:35] And so the program takes eight years, and it was estimated about $8 million.

[2:02:40] But in December of 2025, when the Board higher,

[2:02:44] consultant to take a look at those two lines for the cathodic protection program and they didn't

[2:02:50] recommend it to do that method based on the diameters of the pipe. So what they did they try

[2:02:57] to refund the member agencies based on the amount that they're holding right now and they still

[2:03:05] voting around $3 million to address any immediate maintenance, including issue with ongoing

[2:03:19] maintenance and then also, ready for the next assessment in 2020, I choose top and 30.

[2:03:26] So the board recommended to refund back to the agencies for Westminster, we have about 25.4%

[2:03:35] So that's going to be an amount of 1.1 million dollars, so that will go into our water

[2:03:42] fund.

[2:03:43] Good.

[2:03:44] Thank you very much.

[2:03:45] Any motion?

[2:03:46] Any questions?

[2:03:47] I motion to approve.

[2:03:48] I have a question.

[2:03:50] Okay.

[2:03:51] All right.

[2:03:51] I was second that.

[2:03:52] Good.

[2:03:52] Thank you.

[2:03:53] Thank you.

[2:03:54] Yeah.

[2:03:55] I have a question.

[2:03:56] As far as assessment goes, and was there any effort to do this assessment prior than

[2:04:04] to seek the funding for this catalytic protection, was it was there an assessment done prior

[2:04:13] and then that was what was that a recommendation?

[2:04:17] I think at the time of 2020, I believe that when they look at a condition of the pipe,

[2:04:23] knowing the material of the pipe, that was the method trying to prolong the life.

[2:04:29] But once they dive in and do the full studies of the method, they found out that they

[2:04:34] that like you know the pipe is not big enough for a person to come in and to do to well those

[2:04:40] metals like you know so they prevent additional corrosion to those pipe so but they also look at the

[2:04:47] condition of the pipe as well so they not as bad so the recommendation is to continue the maintenance

[2:04:53] just wherever there's a bad area just dig out and replace but reassess the pipe in another five years

[2:05:00] And then, you know, whatever that at that time, the recommendation will bring back to the board.

[2:05:05] Yeah, and I know, I get that part, but I'm saying was there an assessment prior tent to seeking the funds.

[2:05:13] You know, check going out there and realizing that this wasn't going to work before going through the trouble of seeking the funding and then realizing, once you got in there, oh, this is not going to work.

[2:05:25] It seems kind of backwards, it seems like you should have done their assessment prior and then got a game plan and then then when it's seek to fund it to do it.

[2:05:35] You know what I mean?

[2:05:36] Yeah, no, I think backwards.

[2:05:38] I wasn't around during that time.

[2:05:40] You see to find out whether they have the prior assessment done, but I think it's just, it just recommendation based on the material of the pipe.

[2:05:47] It just seems a little bit backwards.

[2:05:49] Hi, thank you.

[2:05:50] All right.

[2:05:51] There's motion and second on the floor.

[2:05:53] Mr. Mayor, may I make a comment for quick?

[2:05:55] Thank you. So Jake, I was on the waterboard just a few years ago and I know that you guys do

[2:06:02] diligent as a government local government agency sometime we just need money fix to fix things

[2:06:07] quick with a assessment because we have to run the city. So I completely understand that. So with that

[2:06:13] you guys do diligently and now you're re-funding back. Thus phenomenal. As a local government,

[2:06:19] the people expect us to have the funding to put it into fix the water source, water is king.

[2:06:24] we all know that and you're doing a good job and then now you're seeing what the extra assessment

[2:06:31] it shows that you guys are doing diligent and now the money is coming back in the million so

[2:06:38] thank you for that and you know seeking out and making sure that we have the fun as a city to fix

[2:06:44] fix the water pipe if we need it to and that's what the people here are expecting us the

[2:06:50] government to provide for them in that way. So I want to say thank you. All right, Jay.

[2:06:58] All right. So, Google, for please.

[2:07:01] I have a motion made by District 1, Councilwoman Fanless, seconded by Mayor Wynn,

[2:07:06] to authorize an increase to Water Fund revenue account number 5550-39069 to receive a refund from the

[2:07:20] $168,400.

[2:07:24] I'll go ahead and call roll.

[2:07:25] District 1, Councilwoman Fan West.

[2:07:27] Fan West, aye.

[2:07:29] District 2, Council Member Mondo.

[2:07:31] District 4, Council Member Wint.

[2:07:33] Yes.

[2:07:34] Vice Mayor Wint.

[2:07:35] Yes.

[2:07:35] Mayor Wint.

[2:07:36] Yes.

[2:07:36] Motion carried five zero.

[2:07:38] 5.3 project completion with Union Pacific for improvements.

[2:07:44] Related to the Mendes Freedom 12 projects.

[2:07:49] Yes, please.

[2:07:51] Thank you, Mayor. So this is the payments to Union Pacific Railroad to close out the the project improvements that along the Mendes Freedom Trail, which is the Hoover Street.

[2:08:03] So back in June of 2024, the City Council approved seven agreements with Union Pacific for the improvement at railroad crossing along Hoover Street.

[2:08:13] The improvements were required by the Union-Pacific Railroad,

[2:08:17] include pre-Signals, payment markings, signage, ADA improvements,

[2:08:25] side railroad, flashing light, and additional improvements

[2:08:28] at Garin Grove, at Great Cross Crossing,

[2:08:31] at Garin Grove Boulevard, Hazard Avenue, 21st Street, and Trass Avenue.

[2:08:36] The improvements and hence safety for the motorists, bicyclists,

[2:08:39] and pedestrian using the railroad crossing

[2:08:41] of, though, in the section that connected to Mendes Freedom Trail.

[2:08:46] Union Pacific share for the improvements at 21st Street,

[2:08:52] gotten global and trashed every new.

[2:08:54] So I'm just gonna go over the some of the estimated number

[2:08:59] for the constructions.

[2:09:00] So the regional estimate number for the total constructions

[2:09:03] is at one point, almost $1.9 million.

[2:09:06] Union Pacific willing to share the cost is at $351,000

[2:09:10] for those four intersections, the city estimated to put it to cost for $1.5 million.

[2:09:19] The final constructions come up to $1.6 million.

[2:09:23] So this is about less than 7% higher than the original estimated for the city's share.

[2:09:29] Due to the working at night, we can and the costs increase in materials.

[2:09:35] The Mendes Trail Freedom Trail was completed, it was dedicated on April 14,026, and the City

[2:09:42] Council accepted a project on May 13,026.

[2:09:46] So stop recommends that City Council authorized the additional $106,377 and $7.00 and $7.00.

[2:09:53] This is a payment to the Union Pacific Railroad, and this is coming from the existing

[2:09:58] CIP account.

[2:10:01] All right. Thank you. Is there any questions from this or a motion? Motion to approve it. I just like to make a point

[2:10:11] my frustration. What you guys know, a lot of these, I think they took advantage of the situation and got some improvements

[2:10:19] on their equipment for a project that we weren't even touching their project. So I thank you for the, you know,

[2:10:27] I've dealing with the, I know staff very frustrated, but they kind of, how does a gun point on this, we couldn't, nothing, nothing we can do about it.

[2:10:37] So they're original requests for the corridor or is over $20 million dollars.

[2:10:41] Yeah. So we went from fixing their rail line, which we drew the line, several trips to downtown LA with our journeys in hand, to get it down to a manageable amount that we then, thanks to the support of the council,

[2:10:52] and Senator Umberg, we were able to secure an additional $1.5 million, essentially that went into there and to their project.

[2:11:00] Into their equipment.

[2:11:01] It's harsh.

[2:11:02] That's a motion.

[2:11:04] Yes.

[2:11:05] Mr. Mayor.

[2:11:08] I have a motion made by District 2 Council Member Monso, seconded by District 1.

[2:11:13] Council Member Fan West to authorize an increase of $106,379 in additional funds to the union.

[2:11:22] Pacific Railroad Company for railroad crossing improvements related to the completion of the

[2:11:27] Mendez Freedom Trail Project. District 1, Councilwoman Van West, Fenwis I, District 2, Council

[2:11:34] Member Monso. Yes. District 4, Council Member Win. Yes. Vice Mayor Win. Yes. Mayor Win. Yes. Motion

[2:11:41] carried 505. 5.4 strategic plan, go number 2, implement and support effective land use policies

[2:11:49] and encourage quality development strategic plan objective is to identify ways to modify

[2:11:56] the city's code, to be more efficient and improve development. Stop, please.

[2:12:03] Well, so Mayor, if I can just jump in real quick and for everyone, we had technical difficulties.

[2:12:08] The slides look really wonky, but we absolutely promise that we'll have these

[2:12:13] PowerPoint presentations up on the website in a clean version so that members of the public can

[2:12:19] All right,

[2:12:22] thank you, Mr. Mayor, Richard Rojas, Director of Community Development, I'll be presenting this item for your consideration.

[2:12:33] As you are well aware, over the past year, the planning division staff have initiated a comprehensive zoning code effort,

[2:12:40] update effort designed to streamline review of projects, increase opportunities for new development, including housing and commercial,

[2:12:47] and better align the city's regulations with current development practices and state law.

[2:12:55] The code amendments represent a targeted effort to modernize the city's regulations,

[2:13:01] improve administrative efficiency, reduce unnecessary regulatory barriers,

[2:13:06] and provide greater clarity and predictability for property owners,

[2:13:10] residents, businesses, and the development community.

[2:13:13] The adopted and proposed updates address several areas of the zoning code that have been

[2:13:18] becoming increasingly important as development practices, market conditions, and state

[2:13:23] requirements have evolved.

[2:13:26] The amendments are intended to create a more efficient and user-friendly

[2:13:29] regulatory framework while maintaining appropriate standards to protect community character,

[2:13:35] public health and safety, and neighborhood compatibility. The completed amendments have addressed

[2:13:40] thus far, density bonus, accessory dwelling units, billboards, and mixed use development.

[2:13:49] The proposed amendments that are still underway will present it over the next six to nine

[2:13:54] months, include a general modernization and clarification update and a side and code

[2:14:00] update.

[2:14:05] As you've seen, these efforts are quite laborious, time intensive, detail oriented, but they

[2:14:11] provide substantial benefits that will accrue to the community for many years to come.

[2:14:17] As it relates to ADUs, we've seen a significant increase in ADU permit activity.

[2:14:22] We average about five to 10 applications per month.

[2:14:25] We see construction happening virtually all times in all neighborhoods across the city.

[2:14:31] And that is a function of how easy it is and how easy it has become to apply for and

[2:14:36] permits for ADUs. And so we expect these benefits to continue to unfold for many years to

[2:14:44] come and hopefully we can shorten type frames and reduce costs even more.

[2:14:51] I was

[2:14:51] speaking about ADUs but now I'm going to talk about density bonus. Density bonus is one of the most

[2:14:59] track.

[2:15:00] Active elements that we can use to entice large-scale development to occur in the city.

[2:15:06] In effect, we offer greater height or density in exchange for designated affordable units.

[2:15:15] And so, because state law has evolved over the past few years, many codes for many organizations,

[2:15:21] many agencies like Westminster, have needed to be updated to incorporate the latest

[2:15:26] on concessions, incentives, and waivers.

[2:15:30] Once implemented, they do reduce staff time, they reduce ambiguity for applicants, and they

[2:15:37] provide clear expectations on essentially the trades that are available, again, for affordable

[2:15:44] units that are designated and made available, it exchange for more market rate housing.

[2:15:51] I just spoke on a U-benefits previously.

[2:15:56] On the billboard ordinance, billboards are one of the significant opportunities for cities

[2:16:04] to generate revenue to cover not just the cost of doing business within say community development,

[2:16:11] but to support the functions of operations across the city.

[2:16:14] They represent a relatively small footprint and exchange for a pretty significant revenue generation opportunity.

[2:16:24] So what we've done with our ordinance is to update this standards for location-sized design and operation.

[2:16:30] This has encouraged developers to apply, to work with agencies such as Caltrans, to both improve the standards of the existing billboards.

[2:16:42] Sometimes we replace them with digital billboards for the benefit of enhancing visual quality

[2:16:49] along commercial corridors where they are primarily focused to be constructed.

[2:16:56] For the mixed use ordinance, this is one of the newest ordinance that has been implemented

[2:16:59] across the city, but we are already saying lots of interest, lots of brokers that are contacting

[2:17:05] the city, property owners and querying about the possibilities, and so we are making sure

[2:17:12] that everyone understands that business is open here in Westminster, that we are, this is an

[2:17:16] important tool for the city to attract reinforcement and redevelopment of some of the oldest

[2:17:23] commercial quarters within the city to encourage pedestrian-oriented development where vehicles

[2:17:29] are ideally traveling slower so that pedestrians and bicyclists feel safer as they come in and

[2:17:36] out of businesses and residences so that the standards themselves, they are much more clarified,

[2:17:41] they do a lot to entice developer interest because they're very clear on the things that

[2:17:46] developers of multi-story projects looking for, clarity on density, clarity on setbacks

[2:17:52] and parking requirements. And they've been designed to, again, reflect the current best practices

[2:17:58] in the market in this part of Orange County.

[2:18:03] One of the updates that's currently underway that we

[2:18:06] intend to present to you by the end of the year is something we're calling a general modernization

[2:18:11] in clarification update, this is kind of a robust effort to clarify things that are difficult

[2:18:17] to follow in the current code, improve standards for definitions to comply with state laws,

[2:18:23] it relates to specific uses such as emergency shelters in childcare and to reduce ambiguity

[2:18:29] in inconsistencies so that people aren't confused, applicants are confused, staff isn't confused

[2:18:35] and we can just do our job much more efficiently.

[2:18:39] And for the updates that are on the horizon,

[2:18:42] those relate to the sign code update.

[2:18:44] We've heard from many stakeholders thus far

[2:18:47] that there's a strong desire to improve consistency

[2:18:51] and prove aesthetics, reduce the time to process applications

[2:18:55] for signs, but to also think about ways of modernizing.

[2:19:02] And so this is something that we have just started

[2:19:05] to scratch the surface on, but we intend to present

[2:19:08] to the council in the first quarter of next year.

[2:19:13] So again, the ordinances that are currently under way,

[2:19:20] the first, the general modernization

[2:19:22] clarification update is about 70% complete.

[2:19:26] Staff are currently working closely with our internal city

[2:19:29] departments to finalize the draft for preparation to the planning commission in October.

[2:19:39] And then once the commission takes action, we will present it to the City Council.

[2:19:44] For the sign code, we've just started to draft the first draft with our consultant team.

[2:19:51] And again, we are targeting completion in early next year.

[2:19:55] This concludes the presentation.

[2:19:57] I'm available for any questions.

[2:19:58] Alright.

[2:20:00] Thank you very much for their effort there. We need a lot. We need a lot of your help to get the planning

[2:20:09] to you know to speed up. So and at this time I would like to open up for

[2:20:16] the Council comment if there's any. I do. Yes, Council member West. Okay, so on page three

[2:20:26] back to slide number three. We can look at the ADU or an insup date benefits. I guess I didn't say

[2:20:33] here, but are there a number of ADUs that each household can build? Do we have that ordinance

[2:20:41] in the city of Westminster? Yes, the ordinance principle that has been drafted and adopted

[2:20:49] is consistent with state law. It allows up to two ADUs on each single family zone law, along with

[2:20:56] one JADU for a total of four units per single family law. So that is something that is required by state

[2:21:03] law that is currently reflected in our code.

[2:21:09] And we've not seen many applicants propose that many.

[2:21:12] Usually what we see that the most frequently submitted application type

[2:21:16] is a single ADU, a single family house lot.

[2:21:20] We expect that trying to continue from what we're hearing that is just the easiest way to accommodate

[2:21:26] children that are aging, parents that are aging and families want to keep them close

[2:21:31] to care for them, and so that's what we expect to continue.

[2:21:38] Okay, so as of right now, we have a total of two ADUs and four JDUs in each single property.

[2:21:45] Is that correct for what I'm hearing from you?

[2:21:47] No, I'll just restate it.

[2:21:50] So for every single family law, by state law,

[2:21:55] they are allowed to have two ADUs,

[2:21:59] which can be up to 1200 square feet. And then one JADU, which can be up to 500 square feet.

[2:22:07] Okay, so total three if they wanted to.

[2:22:10] Three ADUs plus the main single family house, the main house, so over a total of four.

[2:22:15] Okay, so as of right now, have anyone requests more than two?

[2:22:22] I don't have that answer at the top of my mind, but that's something we could definitely look into and get back to you

[2:22:28] with their specific answer on that.

[2:22:32] I just want, I don't have a problem with ADU,

[2:22:34] but not, I think it's important to make sure we

[2:22:37] house our parents or young adults, who need a place to stay.

[2:22:42] But I think we also need to respect the community as well.

[2:22:45] In my district one, we have a lot of single homes,

[2:22:49] and we don't want to be disrespectful or devalue

[2:22:54] the values of the homes in district one

[2:22:56] million and up, you know, nothing is lower than that. And I know that they want me to defend

[2:23:03] their values. And I just ask that we be respectful that request.

[2:23:12] Thank you.

[2:23:13] Okay, anything else for this? Yes, ma'am. Yeah, thanks a lot, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am.

[2:23:20] You just, I wanted to ask you about the sign code up, and you mentioned that it would be presented

[2:23:26] to us in the first quarter or next year. I know you just recently joined us, but this is one

[2:23:35] of extremely frustration for me because I know we started this many, many years ago when I

[2:23:43] started the planning commission and that was quite a while ago and we still haven't,

[2:23:49] you say you're still just scratching the surface on that, is that where we're at?

[2:23:53] So, I will answer that question on behalf of the department staff, some more history than

[2:23:58] Richard on that.

[2:24:00] You're right.

[2:24:01] It was that long ago, and at the time, former leadership in the department decided that

[2:24:06] they would do that in-house, and then that in-house effort kept starting and restarting.

[2:24:12] And when we last took it over from the manager that retired, we found that it was not worth

[2:24:19] continuing to work on that version of it. So we've since rebooted it and now there's a consultant

[2:24:25] and I can turn it back over to Richard who can talk about who's working on it now and how many hours.

[2:24:31] So we have a song on it. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a frustrating part, not just because it's been so long,

[2:24:38] but in that time frame to today, I've seen it in our community, which luckily, yes, I'm in favor

[2:24:47] There's been some facade of great and certain commercial properties and they went back to using the old box sign and that was something when I was on there that we

[2:25:00] Specifically said we didn't want to go because they saw outdated and they're so very, they're not very, not high quality and our current codes allow them to do that.

[2:25:16] But you know, you get my frustration, right? It's been so long and we're missing the opportunity to really enhance the aesthetics of our community.

[2:25:28] when they're doing these upgrades and they're choosing those bugs because they're very

[2:25:33] economical and some folks don't want to expand the funds to really enhance their

[2:25:39] property. They just wanted to just get a bare bones and we're really missing the

[2:25:44] opportunity to have that done. The other thing, do you have kind of an average time

[2:25:52] frame as far as permitting process goes right now I know there's that's been on a very

[2:26:01] between the mayor here everybody all of us here have expressed some frustration with how

[2:26:07] long the time frame for a catering application done you kind of have an average time.

[2:26:14] Yeah what I'm seeing so far in my first 90 days with the department is that there's a lot

[2:26:21] In general, the applicants that are well prepared with submissions that don't require revisions.

[2:26:27] They can move quickly.

[2:26:27] They can move for like a standard CUP and 46 months.

[2:26:31] But if applicants are not prepared, if their submission materials are incomplete,

[2:26:36] if they don't have studies initiated, it can take double or triple that amount of time.

[2:26:41] And so what my priority is going to be on is being really transparent about what our expectations are,

[2:26:48] offering to screen materials before they submit,

[2:26:52] making myself and our staff available to discuss

[2:26:55] with the requirements are, so applicants fully understand

[2:26:58] what the commitment is, what the expectations are for quality,

[2:27:03] how they can get through things quickly,

[2:27:04] how can they resolve and move fast if that's a desire?

[2:27:09] When I'm seeing so far, though,

[2:27:10] is that the staff are doing their part,

[2:27:13] their turning things around relatively quickly,

[2:27:15] but we don't control the time frame that applicants take

[2:27:18] on their end of the things.

[2:27:20] So what we can do is we can revise our checklists.

[2:27:23] We can put more content on our website.

[2:27:25] We can schedule hours to focus on particular topics

[2:27:28] that seem to be frequently challenging for applicants.

[2:27:34] And that's what we're committed to do.

[2:27:37] So you're saying about 46 months for CUP?

[2:27:43] Is that like in the industry, is that like a...

[2:27:46] That's consistent with industry standard?

[2:27:47] Yeah, that's what I would say based on my experience working in several agencies across the

[2:27:51] California that's that's more typical. Okay. All right. Thank you. I'm not sure that there's

[2:27:58] motion on the floor. If not, I will move to we see even follow this item a second. Thank you.

[2:28:05] Motion in second on the floor. Have a motion made by Mayor Lynn seconded by district two council member

[2:28:13] to receive and file the report. District 1, Councilwoman Fan West, District 2, Council Member

[2:28:21] Monso. District 4, Council Member Win. Yes. Vice Mayor Win. Yes. Mayor Win. Yes. Motion carried

[2:28:28] 4-0-1 with Councilwoman Fan West absent. 5.5, strategic plan, go number 4. Improve customer service,

[2:28:38] delivery to the community strategic plan, objective, reveal and update flow charts and develop customer service oriented,

[2:28:49] material that better informs developers and residents on the community development departments work process,

[2:28:58] and how city customers can best partner with the city on development projects.

[2:29:05] Thank you, Mr. Mayor Richard Rojas again, Director of Community Development, all be presenting this item as well.

[2:29:12] And if you can see my slide, I'll be starting, let's see, or I'll jump right to slide too, in case you're looking out a printed version.

[2:29:22] But as you know, as we were just discussing on the previous item, development review is quite complex, it's very technical.

[2:29:28] It requires coordination across variety of different disciplines, as well as stakeholders, including

[2:29:33] the applicant, their consultants are consultants, various city departments, and other agencies

[2:29:38] that control various aspects of infrastructure and have a say in decisions related to new

[2:29:44] development.

[2:29:46] And so what we've been thinking about is developing a brand new approach to how we deal with customer

[2:29:52] service for the department, and we're calling it our community development partnership guide.

[2:29:57] We want to establish and make it there.

[2:30:00] Very clear that we are going to be much more customer service oriented in our approach to development review, emphasizing collaboration, transparency, and clear communication.

[2:30:11] We want this to be built on a principle of building our community together.

[2:30:17] We want people to understand everyone involved that the city's role extends beyond just regulatory review.

[2:30:23] As staff, we are, yes, regulatory reviewers, but we're also project facilitators, technical advisors and community stewards.

[2:30:32] We do our best to balance the city's responsibility to maintain adopted standards and protect the community while helping applicants successfully navigate the process.

[2:30:42] And so our proposed initiative for the Department establishes five customer service

[2:30:46] principles, and they are accessible, transparent, consistent, solution-oriented and

[2:30:53] respectful.

[2:30:56] We wanted to develop a variety of educational and outreach materials to really make it

[2:31:01] clear to everyone including staff, but also the community, how we intend to live up

[2:31:07] to these principles.

[2:31:08] We want to, we've already published, and if we're in a total use only a community development

[2:31:13] partnership guide that we will distribute to staff through a series of trainings that we

[2:31:20] want to schedule immediately.

[2:31:23] We also want to develop social media and public education to guide residents that may be following

[2:31:29] us on our social media accounts with tips and suggestions and context for some of their challenges

[2:31:38] they may be facing. We're also going to produce a development process guide as I mentioned previously

[2:31:43] new application checklists and new website resources.

[2:31:49] We want to develop brochures that we can

[2:31:52] display in our lobby as well as posters that resemble the one that you can see on the screen here

[2:31:58] where we really emphasize that the feeling, the level of quality, the level of service that we want

[2:32:05] provide to everyone that comes in and we serve and we think that, again, based on successful

[2:32:13] efforts of this being utilized in other organizations where they've really made customer service

[2:32:18] of priority, it's little things like this that go quite a long way.

[2:32:23] We also want to make sure

[2:32:26] that are external communications match the customer experience.

[2:32:33] So we're going to really focus on, you know,

[2:32:36] what are the specific direction that we can give to staff

[2:32:39] to help them understand what it is that we're asking them to fulfill

[2:32:44] and we want to continually refine that.

[2:32:49] We also want to make it clear what can cause delay,

[2:32:53] what can cause frustration,

[2:32:54] and how that can be avoided.

[2:32:58] This is definitely, you know, we play a role in improving on our side of things as staff.

[2:33:04] But again, as I mentioned previously, there are things that applicants can do that stakeholders

[2:33:09] can do to avoid delays on their ins as well.

[2:33:12] And we just want to be very transparent about time spent on different aspects of reviewing,

[2:33:19] where a project is at any given time, and so we'll need to build new systems in order

[2:33:25] to be able to track all those details and report out that data.

[2:33:32] So going forward, what we intended to do is over the next year we want to roll out this partnership guide.

[2:33:38] We want to unveil new checklists and new materials that we can put up on our counter and put on our website.

[2:33:46] We want to come up with something new every month.

[2:33:48] we've actually already started this kind of a slow rollout with our internally focused with our

[2:33:56] coded enforcement communications and our planning communications, but we're hoping to offer

[2:34:01] a little bit of something for every different division within the department. Again, we want to

[2:34:05] create new social media and lobby materials, improve standards, through training, of staff,

[2:34:12] and begin a rollout of this campaign, as soon as you get the green light.

[2:34:21] So with that, that concludes Staff's presentation.

[2:34:22] Again, I'm available for any questions.

[2:34:29] All right. Thank you very much.

[2:34:32] You say any questions, comments from the Dias?

[2:34:36] If not, then I will entertain if there's motion for it.

[2:34:40] Motion to receive in file.

[2:34:41] Oh. Motion in second on the floor.

[2:34:44] Go ahead.

[2:34:45] I have a motion made by District 2, Council Member Monso, seconded by Vice Mayor Win, to receive and file the report.

[2:34:53] District 1, Councilwoman Fan West, District 2, Council Member Monso, District 4, Council Member.

[2:35:00] Yes. Vice-marwin? Yes. Marwin? Yes. Motion carried 401 with District 1, Councilwoman Fan West Absent.

[2:35:08] All right. Moving on to 5.6, selection of venue operator proposal for Westminster Rules Center,

[2:35:16] Theatre, and banquet facility facility, a mootry cultural center. May I ask for a stop report, please?

[2:35:53] Good evening,

[2:35:54] mayor and members of the Westminster City Council. Tonight, let's pull out my presentation.

[2:36:13] Tonight, South will provide an overview of the Rose Center venue operator procurement process

[2:36:19] as it stands today and the evaluation of the four proposals that were received. I'll begin with

[2:36:26] a brief background on the procurement. We will then provide a brief profile of each

[2:36:33] composer finally will take a closer look at the evaluation results, including the highest ring

[2:36:40] composer and the factors that distinguished.

[2:36:48] So this is a overall timeline, but before we get

[2:36:51] to the October 22, 2025 item on here, the Rose Center itself, I want to provide a little

[2:37:01] context, is a banquet facility. Lobby, it has an outdoor patio of performance venue which

[2:37:08] heard lots about tonight. And the facility is operated by an outside operator and has historically

[2:37:14] been managed through outside operator agreements since the buildings inception. The friends of

[2:37:22] the Rose Center current, Rose Center theater currently is the theater operator. And then in 2025,

[2:37:30] the city engaged theater DNA to conduct an operational study. The study findings were presented

[2:37:36] to City Council in October of last year.

[2:37:41] The Council directed after that presentation,

[2:37:44] staff to retain theater DNA to assist with the development

[2:37:48] of the venue operator RFP that reflected Council's

[2:37:52] goals for this facility.

[2:37:56] So then in January, theater DNA began their work,

[2:38:00] interviewing Council members to determine

[2:38:03] council goals for this facility.

[2:38:09] Council members used that time to clarify their goals and then

[2:38:13] ultimately that was confirmed at an open council meeting. In April of 2026 the venue operator

[2:38:21] RFP was released for public bidding and in May staff conducted an initial screening to confirm that

[2:38:29] proposed or med mandatory requirements. In June, staff returned to Council with an update on the

[2:38:36] procurement timeline and requested additional clarification regarding Council's preferences

[2:38:42] and direction. Council directed us to interview the four proposals and those interviews

[2:38:47] were conducted in July. In August, the selection committee completed their evaluations of all

[2:38:58] submitted proposals and interviews. This brings us to tonight's item.

[2:39:06] So the facility

[2:39:07] rose to our facility goals that were discussed through the theater DNA process that began in January

[2:39:17] includes increasing cultural diversity programming in the facility, expanding access

[2:39:23] and participation, so the facility is available for nonprofit users and organizations that are located throughout the city and the county.

[2:39:34] Attracting a broader range of users and events, maintaining opportunities for the city to continue use this facility and generating revenue to offset the city's overall operating costs.

[2:39:48] Council also desired to have a single operator responsible for managing the facility.

[2:39:58] So the...

[2:40:00] The creation of the RFP was originally drafted through comments by theater DNA, which is a city's consultant, based on the council interviews as well as industry standards.

[2:40:15] The draft was then circulated and reviewed by department staff from community services, public works, city attorney city administration.

[2:40:23] And then ultimately, the RFP was released in April.

[2:40:28] The result was for operators submitted proposals.

[2:40:36] So this is actually supposed to be at a different spot.

[2:40:40] Sorry, where's it get that?

[2:40:45] So

[2:40:48] the evaluation process, oh, this is not even the correct

[2:40:54] please, oh, sorry.

[2:40:58] If you can, yeah,

[2:41:18] sorry.

[2:41:18] I think with all the technical difficulties, my power point got switched around.

[2:41:25] Or with me just a moment.

[2:41:53] Escape this.

[2:41:54] I don't

[2:42:10] see on my side.

[2:42:11] Tony, do you see it on your side?

[2:42:12] Because on this side, it's actually not pulled up.

[2:42:23] Okay, so we can get

[2:42:46] back to the place we were.

[2:42:51] So these are the just a brief introduction to each of the

[2:42:57] proposers that submitted to the RFP, their contact information is on this slide, as well as information

[2:43:05] out their operators.

[2:43:16] We go ahead and move on.

[2:43:20] At this point here, at this point here, let's stop and we work together.

[2:43:26] Block, please.

[2:43:29] Please.

[2:43:34] Okay.

[2:43:35] Thank you.

[2:43:35] So, this slide provides a table of how council priorities aligned with the venue, the

[2:43:46] rose center venue operator evaluation.

[2:43:49] So, here we have, on the column all the way to the left, the requirement was to

[2:43:58] be able to operate legally here in California, participate in the site tour either virtually

[2:44:04] or in-person have at least five years managing similar venues,

[2:44:11] demonstrate experience with performing arts and event facilities,

[2:44:17] preferably have demonstrated work experience with other public sector organizations,

[2:44:22] and then Council had a preference for a single operator over the entire facility,

[2:44:28] and then Council also in June said a no management fee model that did not rely on

[2:44:33] management fee structure. So this is how each of those four operators kind of

[2:44:39] ranked answered those questions as you go over to the right. You can see how they

[2:44:46] were each categorized.

[2:44:54] So staff worked with theater DNA throughout the evaluation process.

[2:45:00] Justice to review proposals for completeness, irregularities, assess their compliance with the RFP requirements, industry standards and council priorities.

[2:45:12] We work together to develop questions to address areas to address those irregularities between the different proposals.

[2:45:20] The interviews were conducted in person by city staff and theater DNA was available as a technical resource at the interview.

[2:45:30] They listened in and observed, but did not rate or rank any of the proposals.

[2:45:37] The Rose Center is somewhat different than a traditional procurement that we see throughout the city and else the city's in general.

[2:45:47] Not a single set of specifications applies.

[2:45:51] There's many ways to do management to manage the facility.

[2:45:56] And we saw that with the proposals.

[2:45:58] They had four very different responses.

[2:46:02] And so that's this is taking a little bit more attention and time because of that.

[2:46:11] That was one of the reasons that we returned to Council in June to clarify Council's preferences and obtained direction before we moved on to evaluation.

[2:46:23] Proposers were evaluated based on both their submitted proposals and their interviews.

[2:46:29] The scores were not calculated as a separate proposal versus interview.

[2:46:33] they weren't weighted, they were averaged together, so as a whole, each evaluator

[2:46:43] consit evaluator, considered the complete proposal presented, including any

[2:46:50] written and interview and the interview that occurred, and they assigned an

[2:46:56] overall evaluation in the areas that were mentioned.

[2:47:01] Each proposal was also

[2:47:02] notified of tonight's meeting, tonight's council presentation and provide information on how to participate

[2:47:09] and we saw some of those participate today.

[2:47:14] So the categories which were put together by the

[2:47:21] the the raiders and they provided a consistent framework for the evaluation. There was 10 categories

[2:47:29] each category had a maximum of five points allowed in each category per

[2:47:36] radar.

[2:47:39] Provisors could receive a maximum score of 50. The categories, as I

[2:47:44] stated, were not weighted differently. Each category was evaluated

[2:47:47] independently by both radars using a five point scale. One was equal to

[2:47:54] two fair three good four very good and five was excellent.

[2:48:03] The 10 categories are listed here

[2:48:06] where we have innovation, multicultural programming, revenue development, community

[2:48:12] engagement, technology, marketing, operation planning, organization and completeness,

[2:48:19] customer experience and creativity.

[2:48:24] These individuals category scores were then

[2:48:28] combined to provide a composite evaluative score that could be between 10 points and 50 points.

[2:48:42] I would like to remind you at this time, stop and you know, I asked you to be patient and

[2:48:51] listen to the presentation. You have the time before you spoke before us and you will have

[2:48:58] to come to speak at the end, when there is an oral communication.

[2:49:05] So at this point here, please, let's staff and the City Council doing their work.

[2:49:10] Thank you.

[2:49:14] The evaluation results based on the proposals and interviews,

[2:49:17] Latin Asian Hospitality Group received the highest overall rating or

[2:49:22] evaluation.

[2:49:24] Their composite score was 43.

[2:49:26] Their lowest category rating was good for multicultural programming, but all other ratings from both evaluators were very good or excellent, which contributed to their high score.

[2:49:42] The purpose of highlighting these scores is not to simply identify the numerical rating, but also to provide context for what the evaluation committee identified as factors that influence the score as the highest ranking proposals.

[2:49:55] on.

[2:50:00] Several elements made them stand out. I'm just, we're only talking about them since they had the highest

[2:50:06] ranking. The others, we're not going to necessarily go through at this moment. Several things

[2:50:12] has stood out. From late Latin Asian hospitality group, was there focus on innovation and technology,

[2:50:22] along with proactive approach to marketing and demonstrate experience operating similar facilities

[2:50:28] in the business model.

[2:50:30] They articulated their operational plan clearly

[2:50:33] and presented a business model that

[2:50:35] has been implemented in other facilities.

[2:50:38] During the event interview,

[2:50:40] the evaluation committee also presented

[2:50:41] Prozure with challenges and scenarios

[2:50:43] and their responses,

[2:50:46] demonstrated ability to think through issues

[2:50:48] in real time while remaining aligned with the city's

[2:50:50] stated goals.

[2:50:53] Their proposed business model also provides

[2:50:55] for direct revenue to city, which was with the state of objective of achieving full cost recovery.

[2:51:02] The other positive aspect was their willingness to acknowledge their limitations

[2:51:07] in their proposal. They identified potential solutions. An example of the solution is

[2:51:12] when the road he mentioned when he came up, which was to work with existing partners and the community,

[2:51:22] to have resident programming and leverage partnerships to increase areas where they lacked.

[2:51:30] From the evaluation committee's perspective, this demonstrated flexibility, willingness

[2:51:36] to build partnerships rather than approach the venue management as a standalone operation.

[2:51:48] In the area of innovation, the proposal demonstrated a collaborative approach, articulating

[2:51:54] ID ID is very clearly and respond to constructively as they were presented with questions.

[2:52:03] Though, my nation hospitality group model is a management fee model.

[2:52:09] Staff felt they're overall evaluation was worthy of consideration based on their comparative

[2:52:13] scores in the category's presented.

[2:52:17] Though the management fee model is contrary to council's express goals, the revenue generating

[2:52:22] potential and cost recovery re of funds back to the city exceeds the management fee.

[2:52:31] Finally, I just want to talk about the procurement process.

[2:52:37] You guys saw this slide last time I was here and was so we've moved this up forward.

[2:52:42] I'm here looking for council direction to advise staff about which vendor you would like

[2:52:50] to move forward with and begin negotiations.

[2:52:54] Tonight's decision is not an intention to award, but rather counsel, make and consider

[2:53:00] the information presented, and provide direction to which purpose are they choose, if

[2:53:06] any.

[2:53:07] Count, if count, and then staff will begin negotiations.

[2:53:12] At this time, and so we don't have a contract for you to look at because we have not

[2:53:18] began negotiations with any of the proposals as of yet.

[2:53:22] At this time, staff is available to answer any questions

[2:53:25] and receive directions from Council.

[2:53:29] OK, before we go into that, I just want to let you know

[2:53:32] that, well, the reason that I run very strict policy

[2:53:37] that we have in-house.

[2:53:39] If one person requested to pause and to go back,

[2:53:44] then other people can do the same thing.

[2:53:47] and we can get it moving. So that's the reason why I ask you to be patient with us on that.

[2:53:53] We have to have to have consistently get the process moving. Secondly, I want to make the

[2:54:01] points. I know that from the public comment earlier and also from the public communication.

[2:54:11] There are still a number of people saying that the keep their road center the way it is.

[2:54:20] And I want to let you know nothing change. All we do is this is the last and final that I'm going to tell you again.

[2:54:27] That there is nothing change with that.

[2:54:30] set.

[2:54:33] The contract is up and we open up for the fair selection and also we're looking for, you know,

[2:54:41] whoever that is that effectively and efficiently running the pro center. That's all.

[2:54:51] So this time here I am going to speak first and go ahead and put the feminist for me.

[2:55:00] Well, first of all, I want to thank our staff for your effort in helping bring everyone together throughout this process and provide your invaluable input.

[2:55:11] I certainly appreciate your transparency and your willingness to be clear and upfront about issues and consideration before us.

[2:55:21] And this is out of the court from your stop report due to the different operating models presented in each proposal, as well as the varying priorities and perspective of individual council members.

[2:55:37] The city council is being asked to reach a consensus on which proposal is best suited to operate the value and best aligned with the city goals and requirements.

[2:55:54] So with that, I want to thank you for that.

[2:55:57] And to the council member, I think it is very important to recognize that each organization of business model is different.

[2:56:05] because of the business and operation models of vastly different.

[2:56:12] Stop is seeking direction from the council regarding our preferred business model and management style.

[2:56:21] And that is exactly why we are here tonight to provide that direction.

[2:56:27] Due to the differences in operation from one composer to another, as well as the varying proposal,

[2:56:34] So we need to carefully evaluate which organization or business model are best suited to operate

[2:56:43] this venue and serve the best interest in our entire community.

[2:56:50] Our goal is to select an operator who is not only capable of effectively managing the venue,

[2:56:58] but also work closely with the city to meet its requirements.

[2:57:04] But who also understand the respect of our community as a whole

[2:57:11] and is committed to enhancing activities, programs,

[2:57:16] and opportunities for benefit of our residents.

[2:57:24] Over the past year and a half,

[2:57:27] we have had a valuable opportunity to talk about the Rose Center

[2:57:32] theater and banquet hall. It is one of the most unique and valuable assets in our community

[2:57:41] and in the region. The center has operated for 20 years and for years, however, there have been

[2:57:51] always been concerned race about the efficiency of the center and whether the programming

[2:57:56] and accessibility reflects our Western-based community and culture.

[2:58:04] I want to make it clear.

[2:58:06] The study we conducted with the expert has never been about kicking anyone out.

[2:58:13] It has always been to ensure, please, this has always been to ensure our beloved

[2:58:21] here and how our operational well is financially successful and reflects our diverse

[2:58:30] community. When I have said that the past that I don't want to spend a penny, I want to make

[2:58:39] it clear that I don't want us to spend a penny when an outside operator is using operating

[2:58:50] and managing our facility.

[2:58:53] There is no reason for us to pay for others to part of it.

[2:59:00] After hearing the presentation and public comments earlier,

[2:59:05] I would like to direct staff to move forward

[2:59:09] with negotiating the agreement.

[2:59:12] And at this time, I would like to go ahead and open up for

[2:59:16] city council comments.

[2:59:20] Is anything out from the dias?

[2:59:23] Sure. I can start.

[2:59:25] Yeah. If you want to start a council member, Mr.

[2:59:28] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:59:31] First of all, I just want to thank you for, I know you guys have been working hard on this,

[2:59:36] and has been a very emotional as well for the community.

[2:59:40] As you can see, very difficult on the emotions.

[2:59:44] This theater is a heartbeat of our community and not just the city was

[2:59:51] mister, but as you can see, folks from up surrounding cities and all over

[2:59:55] come to our city to enjoy.

[3:00:00] And the great performances at the theater. So it's a heartbeat of many communities, but luckily it's here with city was minister. So I know, you know, it's been hard.

[3:00:13] The one of the issues that I had at the beginning was just,

[3:00:19] you know, some of this information that you presented on your slide as far as the ratings go and all that.

[3:00:25] I would have liked to have seen that in the staff report, so we can have that opportunity at home.

[3:00:34] When we're reviewing the agenda, so we can have more information.

[3:00:39] And I get it, you're presenting it to us right now.

[3:00:43] But that was a frustration when I saw that it seemed like very little information was in here for us to make a decision that's so big.

[3:00:52] I would like to have seen that, that being said, you know, one of the things that I think we

[3:01:00] all strive for is transparency and not having that information kind of makes people start thinking

[3:01:07] things that maybe may not be true, but anyways, that if I'm not having that information in

[3:01:13] they're good people at the wrong impression, you know, but the wrong optics. So, you know,

[3:01:21] we can try to get those, try to have that much information in there as possible for us to go over.

[3:01:30] And again, and I see that the categories that you had in your proposals and, and I can see now

[3:01:39] after the staff report, after I see in here your report,

[3:01:44] I can see how you got to that, to that 43, you know.

[3:01:49] Originally, I was like, how do you twice as high

[3:01:52] than the others?

[3:01:54] So that was kind of like little bit, kind of like,

[3:01:58] Larry about that, but now that I see, you know,

[3:02:02] the review report, I can see that.

[3:02:05] And one of the, what's that, what Council wine was, was single operator and, and is, is, is,

[3:02:16] that an Asian hospitality group you, you have them as, they would be a single operator.

[3:02:22] But, you know, we all know, and the reason they're, they have scored high-peers are willingness to have the most qualified operator

[3:02:33] for the theater side, you know, which they come to the consensus that it is the friends

[3:02:40] of the Rose Center.

[3:02:41] There is no question about the quality of performances, the quality of the operations that

[3:02:49] they conducted for 20 years.

[3:02:52] We know through that theater DNA report that we paid, you know, $30,000 to have, that they raised

[3:03:00] over $300,000 for the operation of the theater,

[3:03:04] I understand that, and there are also a recommendation

[3:03:08] was an amendment for us to capture the cost of utilities,

[3:03:13] which they're currently are doing right now

[3:03:14] by paying us what they're paying us now.

[3:03:17] So I can see now that how do you got to that?

[3:03:21] So it seems to me that this land,

[3:03:25] that an Asian hospitality group really is the most qualified to be able to operate the

[3:03:34] banquet facility side and with collaboration the theater side.

[3:03:41] If we have somebody an

[3:03:43] operator who is not qualified or inexperienced to run the theater side of the extremely

[3:03:56] detrimental to our community and all the folks who enjoy the theater operation and the performances

[3:04:04] and all the acts, all the kids that got a start there in the careers and acting careers.

[3:04:11] We've heard from some folks here who they've gone on to Broadway and even bigger than that.

[3:04:18] So that's something for us as council and as a community to be proud of that that's what that theater

[3:04:25] has offered to our community. So now I can see how you got to that. Yeah, that point.

[3:04:33] Thank you so much. Well, come back second round. Thank you.

[3:04:38] Any questions from the customer?

[3:04:44] Yes, please.

[3:04:46] Yeah, thanks Mayor.

[3:04:47] I'm just surprised that some residents of the city still think that we're going to shut down the

[3:04:52] I mean, that's that's from the point we just want the vendor through the RFP process.

[3:05:00] Can you bring up the slide on proposal evaluation?

[3:05:15] Is this the slide you were speaking?

[3:05:16] No, the proposal evaluation.

[3:05:22] It's

[3:05:31] this one page.

[3:05:35] I think my slides are different than yours.

[3:05:38] I think yes.

[3:05:41] When the computer malfunctioned, we went back to an older varieties of printed handouts that you all have.

[3:05:51] It's the first one with the picture with the, uh, the banquet.

[3:05:56] We have the city city city city.

[3:05:59] Oh, it's,

[3:06:03] oh, no, that's, that was, okay, so that was part of a presentation that that slide was deleted out of this slide deck.

[3:06:12] I apologize that you guys are seeing something that we are not presenting.

[3:06:16] Because that is definitely, that was not our intention.

[3:06:20] The computer worked against us.

[3:06:21] Okay.

[3:06:22] I'm not sorry.

[3:06:25] Basically, my slide said that, basically, the vendor,

[3:06:29] we want to increase the cost of the grocery programming.

[3:06:33] Facility available for all non-profit use within the city,

[3:06:38] by Hispanic community access and participation.

[3:06:41] There we go.

[3:06:41] We found it very good on it.

[3:06:44] So we want a vendor who can accomplish all these priorities.

[3:06:48] And these priorities basically came about

[3:06:52] because through the interviews with the mayor and all the council members, right?

[3:06:57] So we're not shutting down the theater or anything like that. We want to vender

[3:07:01] who can accomplish these priorities with the best use of the theater for the city in terms of

[3:07:09] financially and culturally.

[3:07:18] I would like to know what each vendor can bring to the table for the city.

[3:07:22] I mean, it's to me right now, it doesn't seem just very concrete

[3:07:32] evidence yet, right?

[3:07:34] Or maybe during your interview with them, we're not privably to those to that information.

[3:07:41] But I would like to know what each vendor will bring to the table for the city.

[3:07:47] So we did follow.

[3:07:48] And it's this little touch on a comment made by Councilmember Manzo.

[3:07:52] We did follow a vetted common RFP process between the 3DNA as the technical experts.

[3:08:01] They were there to essentially monitor the dialogue and make sure that promises that were

[3:08:06] unreasonable weren't being made and make staff aware if that was happening.

[3:08:10] We had adults and experts in the room and then collectively our team, even I've been

[3:08:15] in this for 30 years proposing and overseeing our fees combined and the same goes for veterans

[3:08:23] of our industry with senior management analyst as well as our director. So the process was

[3:08:30] followed and typically what we do is we bring you a ranking and then staff has the council

[3:08:36] direct system move forward with an negotiation. We have had other instances in which the council

[3:08:42] has wanted to see a little bit more and I'll let City Manager jump in as to how we could

[3:08:49] achieve that if that is what the council would like to do. But as far as putting everything

[3:08:54] out there right now, the idea is to bring a ranking and for council to make a decision for us

[3:09:00] to engage that one group, whoever it is, and for us to have the other groups in the waiting

[3:09:07] in the event that that negotiation process doesn't move forward, we can move on to another

[3:09:12] group or reboot the RFP whatever the council wants to do but disclosing everything about everyone

[3:09:18] is not a part of your typical RFP process okay I look at the scoring you know 43 22 21 21

[3:09:29] I'm actually quite surprised I would expect the friends of the rose theater to be to score much higher

[3:09:36] since they've been doing it for 20 years right and they I mean I don't want to say they have the

[3:09:41] track, but I mean they've been doing it for 20 years. I would expect them to be the top score.

[3:09:48] I was surprised that they only score about half of what land Asian.

[3:09:56] Yeah. That's a very good point and you know the thing to keep in mind when you

[3:10:00] Move forward through an RFP process is that the contractor or the applicant, sorry, the contractor or the operator that has the contract, has the inside edge, but they are not given points for being there.

[3:10:13] The RFP process is a clean slate and the idea is that they would bring their 20 years experience plus innovation and other things that the council is now asking more of.

[3:10:23] They would bring that to the table on the day of the interview and essentially that is their score based on their performance on that day

[3:10:30] They don't get extra points for having been there for 20 years and that's just a part of the process

[3:10:36] I was a part of firms where we were there for 10 years and then we lost the contract because we didn't perform on the day that there was a reevaluation

[3:10:44] It's a very typical, but I understand your your mind your logic and where that went

[3:10:49] Before we move on

[3:10:51] would like to have a question for city attorney.

[3:10:55] I know this is a very important items

[3:10:57] that we need to make decision on this.

[3:11:00] So I don't mind to go more than two times

[3:11:05] until the council seemed that we need to move

[3:11:10] for what they call, call for questions,

[3:11:16] then we at that time will take the action.

[3:11:19] At this time here, do we have to ask for the motion or is that good enough that I can go ahead and move on?

[3:11:28] With that.

[3:11:32] If I don't make it clear for you then this is we have the policy that that's only after two times.

[3:11:40] Then we have to.

[3:11:42] Right.

[3:11:43] So your policy says, well, a couple things.

[3:11:45] Number one is close 10 o'clock.

[3:11:47] need to have a motion at some point. Your policy says that each council member gets five minutes

[3:11:54] and then each council member then gets an additional five minutes if they want it. And then the

[3:12:00] city council has the option to say actually no we're going to go for a third round or a fourth round

[3:12:05] of you. You have the option but if you don't agree to extend for everybody then you're done at the two

[3:12:11] around. We have to have to agree to allow more discussion. Okay. I appreciate that.

[3:12:19] At this time here, we are before we move on. We almost have a buck. I would like to move

[3:12:24] to extend the meeting time to whatever it is. I second that. Okay. Just for the record.

[3:12:34] Correct me if I'm wrong. See the attorney or city manager. The policy as far as the 10 o'clock

[3:12:39] time limit, that goes, if we're in the process of occurring item, then you wait to the items

[3:12:46] over to vote to extend, not during the middle of the item. We can wait to the end of the item

[3:12:56] is done. That's what the policy. There's any opposition from anybody on the council to

[3:13:01] continue. Just for the record that maybe we can review it because we've done this a few times

[3:13:09] And we voted right in the middle of a night.

[3:13:16] Well, for tonight, we have to go back and look at the policy for tonight.

[3:13:22] We can go ahead and move to extend the meeting time anyway in any way we can.

[3:13:28] Yeah, because.

[3:13:29] Okay.

[3:13:29] So second.

[3:13:30] I already second.

[3:13:31] Okay.

[3:13:33] I have a motion made by Mayor Wynn seconded by District 1 Councilwoman Fan West to extend the meeting pass

[3:13:39] and P.M. Per city policy. I'll go ahead and call roll. District 1, Councilwoman Fan West,

[3:13:45] Fan West Eye. District 2, Councilmember Monzo. Yes. District 4, Councilmember Wynn. Yes.

[3:13:51] Vice Mayor Wynn? Yes. Mayor Wynn? Yes. Motion carried 5-0. Okay. We are still in the first

[3:13:58] route if there's no question. Okay. Can I continue my train of thoughts?

[3:14:07] Okay. Are you

[3:14:09] And then let's move with the, let's start with first round.

[3:14:12] Yeah. Thank you. Okay. So I meet with staff.

[3:14:16] Yeah, I have the same question to regarding the grading.

[3:14:20] And you guys did elaborate that it's kind of like an interview.

[3:14:24] If you come and if you don't perform that day,

[3:14:27] you missed the opportunity. And I hope everyone who's coming for this interview,

[3:14:33] RFP should be prepared to come with the answer to shine.

[3:14:39] I mean, I have work in certain area in the public sector,

[3:14:44] and I make sure that I come and shine to be the top three.

[3:14:49] That's higher, that day.

[3:14:51] So I don't know exactly why, you know,

[3:14:55] I expect the same thing as Councilman Mark went.

[3:15:00] That the roast theater should have a higher score, just because they have tons of experience.

[3:15:08] So from what you explained to us on the diets here is that they didn't come to perform.

[3:15:15] And I'm not judging staff because I believe you guys are expert. You guys do your job. You interview so many people regarding different positions on staff here, as well as different, you know, contractor that you guys do.

[3:15:30] do your due diligence. So I don't criticize you guys on that nor do I trust you guys on your judgment with that.

[3:15:41] So I am bummed to see the great rating for the roast theater. I don't know what happened there, but I just hope of course with the majority of council and I want to jump on what councilman Mark was saying that we are not trying to get rid of

[3:16:00] the theater, we're trying to implement who is the best person

[3:16:06] to rejuvenated, to bring in generate more money

[3:16:09] into the city and fit the culture of the city.

[3:16:13] So I just want to make that clear too.

[3:16:15] As you guys know, I've been defending the rose theater

[3:16:18] for with Carlos Monza on the diet as well a few years now.

[3:16:23] Because my family, we do theater.

[3:16:25] I'll boys do theater as well.

[3:16:27] So I understand how it influenced our children

[3:16:31] and it gives a good venue for them to be creative

[3:16:35] and learn and build their confidence.

[3:16:39] Confidence, so I do see that.

[3:16:42] So for this performance and the score that they score,

[3:16:48] I don't know what happened here.

[3:16:51] So I just, if I mean, Tim want to talk to us about it,

[3:16:56] I'm more than happy to.

[3:16:57] but I don't think he's here, but I'm bum on that scoring.

[3:17:05] So I do want the best for our city

[3:17:07] because that's our responsibility as council member and mayor up here

[3:17:11] is that we think of a whole of the city, Westminster,

[3:17:15] and we want to be fugal with the money that comes into our city

[3:17:18] because it's your tax dollars.

[3:17:20] And we want to be able to have a facility

[3:17:22] that will cover everyone as well.

[3:17:26] So I'm open-minded and I want to hear why those people who are on top, why they score so well.

[3:17:35] You know what I mean? So I do want to see that as well. I'm open-minded.

[3:17:41] Anything else before we go to the second round?

[3:17:45] Good but, Councilman Nabra, no, no.

[3:17:49] You can go for the second round.

[3:17:51] Yes.

[3:17:52] Okay. All right. Thank you. I won't go for the second round.

[3:17:55] Now, I know that we have three vendors representative here tonight, and I know that also that

[3:18:07] from staff seeing that it's different models, then here we are reviewing the model and

[3:18:14] managed management style to make sure that who is the one that best suited for managing

[3:18:22] the operator. I'd like to go back to slide number 7, please.

[3:18:37] This is the answer. The matrix with everything.

[3:18:40] Yes, this is it. Okay.

[3:18:44] You know, I don't know how you, or yeah, of course I respect you to come, you know,

[3:18:51] come to the scoring, but I'd like to make a point here for the last row, same management

[3:19:04] free.

[3:19:07] I believe that, you know, we set it fairly clearly that we don't want to pay anyone to

[3:19:13] come in and manage our facility and we have to pay for it.

[3:19:18] And we make it very clear.

[3:19:19] And this is the company that you are helping a high escort that they are asking for management fee.

[3:19:29] So with that, I don't think that I am in favor of that.

[3:19:36] So with all the other things, I respect you for your judgment on that, but I will reserve on this one here.

[3:19:48] And at the same time, we have the represent from a roast center today.

[3:19:56] When I hear you guys, when you guys have a pop comment.

[3:20:00] I heard that done and it came up and also talked about it but then he very much, you know, talking about why is, you know, Stockholm up with this number and he didn't agree with that and so on.

[3:20:15] I have not heard of what you are bringing to table.

[3:20:20] I understand for the last 20 years, you've been doing that,

[3:20:23] but this is a different process.

[3:20:25] This is going to be fair for everyone who are turning in the proposal.

[3:20:32] I also heard from Latin Asian and with the management free,

[3:20:41] I don't really, you know, in favor of that.

[3:20:46] For the TLC, I heard that they were saying

[3:20:54] that they have 14 years of experience

[3:20:58] and preserving the community.

[3:21:02] And they are in seat of what's necessary.

[3:21:05] And they are going to provide 10% of the profit

[3:21:12] after expense.

[3:21:16] So with these right here, I would like to explore more from the TLC.

[3:21:26] And at this time, I have the TLC in house. May I ask the representative to come up?

[3:21:31] So we have some question for you.

[3:21:33] Should we do? Should we do an increase here? And public isn't that for staff to do?

[3:21:40] I just want to. I mean, I want to know I want to know other vendors too.

[3:21:51] If that's okay.

[3:21:52] Is that it? So quickly, I don't have time. It's my time still for one minute here.

[3:21:59] I'm going to ask you a few questions and then your you answer it because I have been running out of time.

[3:22:04] First of all, like I mentioned, you said that you or you have experienced 14 years where have you will

[3:22:11] you know, managed the company before and preserving for the community and in 10% of their

[3:22:19] of their, of their, um, perfect sharing.

[3:22:23] And I believe that you also mentioned, oh, here, the mentioned that you are going to put

[3:22:27] in the investment, the initial investment.

[3:22:30] So go ahead and answer all those questions to see.

[3:22:32] Yes,

[3:22:35] I do have 14 years experience managing the Saigon Performer Center.

[3:22:41] Originally, I'm the owner of Saigon Performer Center and then it got transferred to Vic face TV and then I am the shareholder of Vic face TV.

[3:22:54] So my experience with the theaters and with the televisions have plenty experience to do

[3:23:06] we're public, provide customer service and handling event from A to Z.

[3:23:15] Also, I mentioned in my oral communication that we will invest $500,000 to for the operating resources.

[3:23:30] And we also pay rent for the city of Westminster and provide a share 10% profit sharing to the city.

[3:23:39] So if we, uh, uh, rose and the grow, then everything scroll together with the city.

[3:23:49] Okay.

[3:23:52] Um.

[3:23:52] Oh, one more thing about the banquet.

[3:23:54] You know, right.

[3:23:55] Five minutes?

[3:23:56] Yeah, right now.

[3:23:57] So we're right now, hold up and I.

[3:24:00] I'm a question.

[3:24:01] My prime minister's done.

[3:24:02] And so we will go on with another council member, which is.

[3:24:05] Colossus.

[3:24:06] Thank you, Mayor.

[3:24:08] Um.

[3:24:09] Thank you. Thank you for your time.

[3:24:13] Sean, I earlier in the conversation during your staff report, you mentioned about

[3:24:18] exceeding management fee from the Latin Asian group. What was that?

[3:24:27] What was it planning

[3:24:28] by that? What about the management fee? Yeah, during your staff report, you made the

[3:24:34] comment about the, as far as the management fee and then they would exceed it management

[3:24:39] What is that the return or what was that?

[3:24:43] Yeah, so the management fee and they also are in the room.

[3:24:48] So if you wanted to talk with them directly.

[3:24:51] Well, that's definitely.

[3:24:52] But I can provide the information I apologize.

[3:24:55] So yes, they're the management fee model.

[3:25:00] Has cost recovery built into it. They have a series of revenues that would co-directly flow back to the city. So a facility rental fee would flow back to the city.

[3:25:15] And so they estimate in that first year of working as the facility manager, they would generate approximately 465,000 in revenue.

[3:25:27] that would offset the 100 and a little over $100,000 of venue management fee that they're

[3:25:38] they're requesting upfront. So, but that has to be vetted out like.

[3:25:43] Yeah, so that of the, is that they're set on that with that model of operation?

[3:25:48] What was that a concern? Are they set on that model of operation?

[3:25:52] So that's something that could be discussed in negotiations.

[3:25:55] We just have not begun negotiations, so we haven't fed it that further.

[3:26:00] Sir, here, here, can you answer that question?

[3:26:03] Yes, sir.

[3:26:04] Let's go up here.

[3:26:05] What's the moment?

[3:26:14] We're not here to interrupt the current operations.

[3:26:17] We actually hear to enhance what they're currently doing.

[3:26:20] In addition, we're going to maximize the bank responsibility in so many different forms

[3:26:26] and shapes.

[3:26:26] Plus, we're adding a new element that was not in the report, which is adding a community

[3:26:32] kitchen and commissary kitchen for small businesses that they can add a four- African motor.

[3:26:37] Right now, so that's kind of foster a different level of revenue for the city, in addition to the rental income.

[3:26:47] That is uncapped.

[3:26:49] If you go the tenant model approach, you're hitting a ceiling.

[3:26:54] With our model, you're basically working with a proper

[3:26:58] management to leverage all the three levels of the operations.

[3:27:03] Your commensurate kitchen, your banquet facilities to maximize it.

[3:27:07] We're not going to turn down anybody coming in through the banquet facilities,

[3:27:10] so we can have someone who wants to do a celebration of life for 20 people,

[3:27:16] and as high as doing a thousand people corporate events, multiple layers, multiple days.

[3:27:21] So, in those particular scenarios, the city would generate revenue through the rents, through parking.

[3:27:28] We are also contemplating sponsorships and grants that will go straight to the city.

[3:27:34] So, the city is looking actually to make more than about a million dollars or so during the course of the time.

[3:27:42] So, it's on cap. The more we generate, the more we push, the more the city will make.

[3:27:46] There's no ceiling on the, and there's no ceiling on exactly.

[3:27:51] There's no ceiling, and we conducted a study that we can, and year four, we can definitely take the venue to a four point five to five million dollar income generation.

[3:28:04] Through all the three models, and still delivering the goal that the city wants to do, community engagement, helping small businesses grow,

[3:28:12] Small businesses, if they start a business in the kitchen, they will get a business license through the city.

[3:28:20] They will generate a little bit more revenue, they will pay taxes, and you're still helping someone that cannot afford a $10,000 brick and mortar location.

[3:28:28] They can literally start with as little as $1,000, for example, on the kitchen side.

[3:28:34] We have run kitchen operations and on the normal basis, those kitchen are running anywhere from $200,300,000, just that particular pillar.

[3:28:42] We're not including the banquet.

[3:28:45] The banquet is one thing.

[3:28:46] Plus, we're also giving you a 10% revenue share

[3:28:50] for everything that we include on the banquet facility.

[3:28:53] We have a liquor license.

[3:28:55] So we're not coming here to experiment.

[3:28:57] We're coming here to hit the floor running.

[3:29:00] And we're coming here to also catch all the events

[3:29:05] that are happening next year, wedding season,

[3:29:07] all those things are happening.

[3:29:08] So we're not coming to generate more of anything.

[3:29:15] It's just a balancing act while still keeping the theater intact,

[3:29:19] but the theater needs to be subsidized.

[3:29:21] The theater is a subsidy program.

[3:29:24] It cannot operate by itself.

[3:29:27] So you need someone an operator like us

[3:29:29] that we can generate on the bank with facility.

[3:29:31] We can generate more income.

[3:29:32] We can find sponsorships.

[3:29:34] Then we can subsidize the theater.

[3:29:35] So, they can continue to do programming or even increase the programming because they will have enough funding.

[3:29:42] The only thing that we request is support to streamline everything.

[3:29:48] You know, utilize more vendors, more outsource items so we can lower the cost on labor because labor is extremely expensive.

[3:29:57] With that, so the management fee, you not only get one tip.

[3:30:00] You get a group of accountants, you get a group of legal teams that are can also be working with your legal teams, marketing people, janitorial people, it's a whole, it's a whole spectrum, it's just not one person, because it does the venue, it does require a big team right now, because it's been sitting there by itself for a long time.

[3:30:22] not only that, but you still have control to decide what gets done there.

[3:30:26] Or if you want to hold public meetings there, you get to also call the shots there,

[3:30:31] and you have more flexibility versus if I'm a tenant, the approach is different,

[3:30:36] because you cannot really force the tenant to do something that you know, to open

[3:30:44] which is the current model that you had before it, they were open for only a certain time.

[3:30:49] All right, please share your actual question. Yes, you did. Thank you. All right.

[3:30:53] Okay. So, Michael. Okay. Can I help you up one more time, sir?

[3:30:57] Can I advise me or my advice, Mary? Next.

[3:31:01] Can I have? Is it your turn?

[3:31:03] Oh, okay. Go ahead. All right. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Since you're here. Yes.

[3:31:08] How would you bring about maintaining some of the, let's say, for example,

[3:31:12] some of the program that we like from, say, friends of the Rose? How would you do that?

[3:31:18] by financially supporting what they do, financially supporting because how would you do the

[3:31:24] partnership with them? The way that we work with them, we have a software called Triple

[3:31:29] Seat, that software enhances the way that people buy tickets, the way that seats are covered,

[3:31:37] and the fees that our seats work. Usually when people go to concerts, there's different levels,

[3:31:43] different tiers. The upper level has a different tier. The lower level has a different tier.

[3:31:50] So sharing with them are two box of marketing and our technology will help them tremendously.

[3:31:57] But my point is how are you going to bring about those similar kind of program? Are you going to

[3:32:02] partner with like say them or some other vendor? Similar to them to bring these kind of

[3:32:08] as a Shakespearean play, you know,

[3:32:11] yeah, Christmas Carol, stuff like that.

[3:32:13] No, my plan is, my plan is to work with them

[3:32:16] in their priorities and their calendar.

[3:32:19] Whatever calendars they don't utilize,

[3:32:21] those are the days that I plan to utilize

[3:32:24] to rent those spaces out

[3:32:27] so we can increase revenue that way.

[3:32:29] So if they want us to, we're also,

[3:32:32] we're meant to by worldwide entertainment company.

[3:32:35] So we can also place a call to some of those entertainment companies and bring them into the mix because this is a teamwork

[3:32:41] This is not a solo

[3:32:43] A solo act to be able to to to to make that the center. Okay. Thank you. Let me ask let me ask the the rap from TLC to come up to ask the same question

[3:32:53] Okay, thank

[3:32:59] you

[3:33:09] So I want to know how would, let's say, TLC, because we like, let's say, the program, a similar program to what the friends of the Rose bring to the city.

[3:33:20] How would you bring those similar kind of program?

[3:33:23] I know you're going to have other kinds of programs, and how would you bring, let's say, that segment of the venue back to the rows.

[3:33:35] Well, I have reviewed the DNA reports, and I saw those names of the customer who booked the row center.

[3:33:47] And I recognize, at least, one third of those customers that I have worked with S. Saigon

[3:33:56] performance. And in the future, if I do get to run for Operator to run for the Rose

[3:34:05] Center, like I said, I will preserve all the, I will commit to preserve all the existing

[3:34:12] programs and willing to work with the friend of the rose if they have any annuals programs

[3:34:20] to be booked for the year. Now, you mentioned earlier that the 500,000, what would the city

[3:34:28] be allowed to use for? I mean, are you going to have any restriction on that money in terms of

[3:34:42] $500,000 for operation resource and as we already submitted it in our proposal and the budget planning that we planned to spend 70,000 to repair the flooring.

[3:34:58] I mentioned in the DNA.

[3:35:00] And we will put 50,000 to upgrade the banquet area. Let's say the furniture, the decorating item, which will attract more customer that way.

[3:35:16] and 20,000 we will spend on the red carpet and then 10,000 is to upgrade or repair the theater entrance as needed.

[3:35:30] Okay, all right, thank you. Thank you so much.

[3:35:32] Okay. So from what I can see, I mean, I like both view response. I think that TLC has the

[3:35:46] local experience in terms of their experience at the Lipside Gun Performing Arts, and they

[3:35:53] have also had to have experience wearing restaurants. I do like that. That doesn't mean that

[3:35:59] this like your proposal. So I mean at this time I like to make a motion to have to

[3:36:06] see the staff work with TLC initially. And then let's see if there's any...

[3:36:12] I still have a question. I expect my motion.

[3:36:17] Yeah. Okay.

[3:36:20] Okay.

[3:36:22] Please, sir, would you please?

[3:36:25] Well, well, I will ask you specifically to come up and talk about it right now. It's not your turn yet. Please sit down.

[3:36:32] Thank you, Donna.

[3:36:34] Okay, so my turn to ask questions. Okay, so I want to take up if you can come back up quick.

[3:36:41] Okay, because I have only five minutes so I have to do quick. I have three of you guys to interview.

[3:36:46] Okay, so you mentioned that the 10% is only for catering, right out of that.

[3:36:51] food and beverages. Okay, no theater, just the catering side. Yeah, the theater will still pray on their own way their own piano. Yeah. Okay, got it. Okay, that's all I need to know. Yes or no in that. Okay. Now, okay, can I get the lady again, TLC? I have four minutes. So TLC, Lake, can you pause?

[3:37:16] so she come up.

[3:37:25] Okay so um okay so he mentioned that he will build a kitchen in the catering

[3:37:31] sign. Are you guys gonna build kitchen to help facilitate that? Yes we will evaluate the kitchen

[3:37:38] to see what's needed so that we can upgrade it so that we can operate the banquet. Okay thank you

[3:37:46] and then regarding the liquor license he has it, do you guys have it?

[3:37:51] Yes, I do have a full liquor license.

[3:37:54] Okay, and the 10% are you for the catering and theater side or just catering? Like a total net

[3:38:00] operating expense of TLC. Perfect. Okay, that's good. Thank you so much. Can I have the rose theater?

[3:38:09] Tim?

[3:38:15] Hi, Tim. Thank you. Okay, so I'm going to ask you the same thing. So I know that you submit an

[3:38:20] application both for both side, right?

[3:38:22] Yep.

[3:38:23] Okay.

[3:38:24] So I know TLC and them.

[3:38:26] They were saying that they have the 10%.

[3:38:30] He is only on the cater side.

[3:38:32] They are able to TLC say both to do both side theater and catering.

[3:38:36] Is that the same for the new contract that you're playing with?

[3:38:39] Yes.

[3:38:39] And we actually apply for both for just the theater side or for theater and

[3:38:43] banquet if that is what the choice would be.

[3:38:47] And as you know, we already do pay fee, a nice empty monthly fee for services that we provide there for you.

[3:38:58] On top of that, we provide all of the operational costs, which are approximately 500,000 a year, which we would continue to provide, which we have been.

[3:39:10] And also we did actually meet and talk about a percentage fee as well again over above those operational fees, and so that would be a fee percentage per event.

[3:39:25] And then regarding the kitchen, they're all both planning to do the kitchen.

[3:39:30] And we're planning to use outside vendors, exactly, for all catering so that we have an option.

[3:39:35] If we were to do that, we would hire outside catering for each of the events individually,

[3:39:44] such as you would do in the community room here, a lot of the other spaces that you have in Westminster.

[3:39:52] And then so with a 10% on, he mentioned that he can raise about 400 to 500.

[3:40:01] $500,000, so 10% is well between $450,000 a year for the city. Is that something you're able to do as well?

[3:40:10] Well, it would depend on the customers that we would get, of course, and what our rentals would be. So it's hard to predict exactly how much we would be able to do that.

[3:40:21] But if we were to go from just at the other side,

[3:40:25] we, like I mentioned, we are already contributing over 500,000.

[3:40:30] So we're able to continue that for sure.

[3:40:32] And then probably more than if we were to add banquet along with it, of course.

[3:40:37] So maybe around 700,000 a year?

[3:40:40] Could be, yes.

[3:40:41] OK.

[3:40:42] OK.

[3:40:43] I don't want to take up your time.

[3:40:44] Go ahead.

[3:40:44] You want to, I don't want to be finished.

[3:40:47] And then the other question is, do you guys have a liquor in Lyson?

[3:40:53] We don't have a curtain liquor in Lyson.

[3:40:55] Okay, okay.

[3:40:56] It's certainly a client get one, yes.

[3:40:58] Okay, I know as a little personal.

[3:41:00] I was a little fun when I saw the rating.

[3:41:03] I know you do really well, you know,

[3:41:06] with your performance at the theater.

[3:41:08] You don't have to share, but if you can share, if you want to,

[3:41:13] you know what happened.

[3:41:14] Well, I'm not sure. I felt like we had a very good interview. I do know that there's

[3:41:20] a little bit of issues on the cities and actually in our interview because they were not

[3:41:27] prepared for our interview when we came in. It was 40 minutes late to get started because

[3:41:33] they were having some technical issues. I know that what actually ended up happening was that

[3:41:44] they were able to figure out how to use the Zoom camera on them in order for them to actually

[3:41:50] view us.

[3:41:50] We could view them, but they were not able to actually see us during our interview so they

[3:41:55] could only hear us.

[3:41:57] Okay.

[3:41:58] Thank you.

[3:41:58] If I may.

[3:41:59] Mayer.

[3:42:00] Can I make a statement?

[3:42:01] Yes, please.

[3:42:01] So, there is some paraphrasing that's happening from the Dias and one of the distinctions that

[3:42:07] I don't want to let Shana clarify.

[3:42:08] You had to do with the kitchen.

[3:42:11] There's a difference between a commissary kitchen and upgrades to the kitchen.

[3:42:15] It's a big part of the discussions I just wanted to be on an opportunity to clarify and

[3:42:20] I think city manager has some stuff.

[3:42:22] Okay, and then also I want to briefly respond about the technical difficulties we had during

[3:42:28] the interview.

[3:42:29] But the commissary kitchen, as land-nation hospitality group was mentioning, their business model

[3:42:36] has three, it's like a three-legged stool.

[3:42:40] One is the banquet facility.

[3:42:43] One is the theater.

[3:42:45] And then the third area is the kitchen,

[3:42:47] which would be converted as almost an incubator hub

[3:42:52] for our local businesses to come and use an hour, two hours,

[3:42:57] of the kitchen time to, if they have a big order,

[3:43:01] if they're doing a larger event,

[3:43:02] if they want to test out a market

[3:43:04] as particular product.

[3:43:06] So, they would rent the kitchen on blocks of time.

[3:43:11] They had been successful at this in a corporate kitchen in Kent member of the city and then

[3:43:19] they've been successful otherwise too.

[3:43:21] So successful that that venue was run by them for a period of time and then it was turned

[3:43:27] over, transitioned back to the facility owner to continue running.

[3:43:32] That's how well that was set up.

[3:43:33] And that is a revenue-generating component business

[3:43:38] of their business model that nobody else had.

[3:43:41] That was part of their innovation.

[3:43:42] That's why one of the reasons they're

[3:43:44] rings so high.

[3:43:44] That's the definition of a commissary kitchen

[3:43:47] versus the other groups that said

[3:43:49] we would assess the kitchen and upgrade it.

[3:43:52] Because it's a big difference.

[3:43:53] And I think it was being perceived as possibly the same thing.

[3:43:56] So you just want to make that distinction.

[3:43:58] And then the technical difficulties that, well,

[3:44:02] I mean, we've had him here tonight too.

[3:44:04] So sometimes our systems don't function well.

[3:44:08] And so, yes, the camera was not functioning,

[3:44:12] but the audio was functioning.

[3:44:14] And then let's not forget that.

[3:44:16] Theater DNA had been present in many conversations

[3:44:19] with Friends of the Rose Center through the operational model.

[3:44:23] So they definitely know them.

[3:44:25] But so we did remedy the problem.

[3:44:30] It was very late.

[3:44:31] but we breamedy the problem that day, they were able to do their full interview. Their interview was not cut short, it went on as planned.

[3:44:41] Thank you.

[3:44:42] I'm going to jump in to this conversation and relatively quiet.

[3:44:46] Look, so we're getting to a point that there's been a lot of conversation about why the proposals weren't included, why the ratings individually weren't included,

[3:44:57] included, and that was really to prevent.

[3:45:00] What is happening tonight, which is we are full on negotiating at the Diaz. And the questions that should be, the questions that should be asking should be clarification questions regarding maybe business, you know, etc., which is not, you know, which has happened before when we've awarded contracts. But as far as this deep dive into what we're negotiating, none of these points are going to be relevant when you pick who you want us to speak to.

[3:45:27] because this is supposed to be high level at this point.

[3:45:31] So you got a number rating, you got categories

[3:45:34] that show these are the touch points.

[3:45:37] And at the end of it, based on those ratings,

[3:45:41] that's where you would make the decision.

[3:45:43] But we shouldn't be having this practice

[3:45:46] of negotiating with each other on the diets,

[3:45:49] because that is the next step of what we're supposed to be doing

[3:45:51] behind the scenes based on your direction tonight.

[3:45:54] So I just want to make that clear.

[3:45:55] As far as preparation goes, whether there's technical difficulties or not, you're either prepared

[3:46:01] or you're not, you know about your business or you don't.

[3:46:03] And so, the ratings are based on performance, on the interview, on that particular day, and

[3:46:10] the proposals that were received and that's it.

[3:46:13] So any of these auxiliary extras that are being added on, we're not part of these ratings.

[3:46:20] So I just want to make that clear, but it can be a part of the negotiation process.

[3:46:25] that happens once you decide who you want us to negotiate with, whoever that is.

[3:46:31] I totally agree with you on that. And I think that we need to give, you know, the

[3:46:36] you would come for the operator to answer the question. So I have a couple of questions for you.

[3:46:44] I don't, you know, whoever. First of all, you know, clarifying clarifying, I'm not, I'm

[3:46:54] Mr. Mayor, may I? I believe are we done with the second round? Yes. So are you starting the third round?

[3:47:01] Right. So we have to get to the third round. You need a consensus for an council. Yes.

[3:47:05] Okay. I move to a petition.

[3:47:08] Okay. All right.

[3:47:11] Okay. All right.

[3:47:15] Have a motion made by Mayor Lynn seconded by District 1 Councilwoman Fan West to go a third round.

[3:47:21] District 1, Councilwoman Fenwist, Fenwist Eye, District 2, Council Member Monso, District 4, Council Member Win,

[3:47:30] Yes, Vice Mayor Win, Yes, Mayor Win, Yes, Motion carried 5-0.

[3:47:34] All right, so these are the questions that I have for you, so I'm going to ask

[3:47:38] question first and I ask you the post, so they can answer that.

[3:47:45] First of all, I'm just clarifying.

[3:47:48] I know that after the DNA study and we are trying to renew that your contract and you know

[3:47:55] for the fact that there are certain costs that you know to operate, continue to operate the theater.

[3:48:03] And at one point you can't go with that recommendation and right now with the new contract that negotiation

[3:48:12] is it burdened for you in term of paying the rent? Not only for the cost, not only for the theater,

[3:48:22] but also for the banquet. No, it has not been any type of a burden at all for us. Okay, the second question

[3:48:30] I have for you is that I think you mentioned only that you are catering in for the banquet instead of the,

[3:48:37] Okay,

[3:48:40] so that the third thing is have you have you have experienced up running the banquet?

[3:48:50] Yes, Sherry Titus, who's our banquet manager on RN has ran banquet services for the city of Serritos for 15, 20 years.

[3:49:00] Okay, all right. Thank you very much for that. I would like to bring the T and T O C up again for questions.

[3:49:19] You mentioned earlier that you are the owner appeal of the performance.

[3:49:25] I was at one time and then you are being a partner with them.

[3:49:30] How big is the psychoanperforming art compared to do you know anything about their growth center?

[3:49:36] How big is that compared to the growth center?

[3:49:38] So, you are performing us originally have 580 seats and then lately, they remove to

[3:49:47] rows it on the back and it's only have 560 seats for now.

[3:49:53] Okay, next question for the question is when you are running the psychon performing art,

[3:49:59] a wood

[3:50:00] The only problem that we need to know of right now. When I run days, I go on performing, I do not have any problems at all.

[3:50:12] It's just that if we provide good customer service, they will come back and happy, and they

[3:50:29] will you not working with any ethnic group or any organization that are within our community?

[3:50:43] As I learned before me, I already advanced that I run and provides service for them.

[3:50:52] It's including religious events which include Buddhism and Catholic.

[3:51:03] As far as for the nonprofit,

[3:51:08] I myself, the member of two nonprofit organizations,

[3:51:12] I heard that. I have a well-connection of all the non-profit and when they approach me then

[3:51:19] I provide a good service. I understand their needs and then everything is just a smooth

[3:51:26] event. Are you locally or are you at a local here? Yes, I said before that I am

[3:51:37] Okay,

[3:51:39] I guess those are the questions that I have for you, how do they work with the community, how do you work with the community you answer that question already? How big is it? Okay, I got that well with that I was thinking the vice mayor to direct staff to negotiate the contract with you know and then bring the contract back to us.

[3:52:04] In case, if there is not looking out, then we have to consider another.

[3:52:10] But right now, I think that, I mean, in favor of directing the kind of, I mean, directing

[3:52:18] CD staff to work with TLC.

[3:52:22] I will second you.

[3:52:23] I'm not, we're not done yet.

[3:52:24] Yeah.

[3:52:25] We're not done yet.

[3:52:25] I absolutely have a chance to talk about it now, it's your turn.

[3:52:31] Thank you, Mayor.

[3:52:32] But it's pretty unfortunate that what we have here, first, thank you, appreciate it, first, my colleagues choose to not listen to the experts.

[3:52:44] Theater DNA, that's their profession, that's what they do for a living, is assess and vet the operations of theaters.

[3:52:52] We took that 30,000 dollars and just threw it out the window because obviously the people up here with no experience whatsoever, no best.

[3:53:01] Now, we go through this process of the RRP, which my colleagues didn't want to do.

[3:53:07] They only had didn't they staff told them that's the legal process.

[3:53:13] Now, we go through this process, and they, with the help of theater DNA, which we're paying again to do this, that's more taxpayer money.

[3:53:21] All right, you go through this, the professionals,

[3:53:26] vatom, scorum, the scorum high, and again, my colleagues,

[3:53:32] no best, and they throw that information out the window again.

[3:53:37] So when we have here, folks, it's just a dog and pony show.

[3:53:42] The people who were here a while ago saw this happening

[3:53:46] way before when the mayor ran out into the audience and apologize to the folks.

[3:53:54] I'm sorry that I'm being so blunt and don't think that I'm being disrespectful.

[3:53:58] I'm just telling you like it is. Those are the facts.

[3:54:03] My colleagues seem to not take any professional assessment.

[3:54:10] They have their preference and that's what they're going to do.

[3:54:14] Our city is at stake, do we want somebody who didn't even have the qualifications to score

[3:54:20] to the high score, to be practicing on our facilities?

[3:54:27] I think not, I think the in order, like I said, this is not just a building that's there

[3:54:34] for four walls.

[3:54:35] This is a community, this is that there's been built for 20 years, generating all this

[3:54:43] community, all the, when I say community, I mean, people, this community is people.

[3:54:50] All right, that had poured their heart and soul into that, into those performances.

[3:54:58] All right?

[3:55:00] Like I said earlier, this move that's going on right now, is extremely going to be extremely detrimental to our community, the friends of the role center as assessed by theater DNA that we do in a great job for 20 years and they, they, they recommended that we continue with them as the operators of the theater and they also recommended that either we select an operator for the banquet side or the city run the banquet side.

[3:55:30] with sites orselves, but no, that's not what my colleagues are choosing to do, okay?

[3:55:39] So that is extremely, right now this is going to just be a practice I think. I'm not trying

[3:55:47] to be that this respectful to the other proposals, but the experts and the staff had made

[3:55:53] the recommendations. There's no ceiling to the profit that that's according to the gentleman

[3:56:00] here, according to staff, that there's no ceiling to the revenue that can be generated through

[3:56:08] their expertise and all their experience with entertainment, and there's three levels

[3:56:14] of the kitchen that they can be making top revenue from it's right here.

[3:56:22] So obviously, what's best for the community is not what's being done right now.

[3:56:28] So I'm only one vote, I'm only one vote, and that's how I can do it.

[3:56:35] And I want to make a substitute motion to go with the experts, to go with the experts and their recommendation,

[3:56:45] and the folks who scored 40, twice as high as the other proposals, including TLC.

[3:56:54] That's my motion, my substitute motion, to go with the experts, to go with the experts.

[3:57:00] That's my motion.

[3:57:02] All right.

[3:57:02] Thank you.

[3:57:03] Before I ask for the second, if there's any, I want to make sure it's clear to everyone

[3:57:11] here on the castle.

[3:57:13] We know that the idea of the NAA, we heard them to help us with the process.

[3:57:18] We actually have them rating the operator or not.

[3:57:26] No, the Feter DNA did not connect any of the ratings.

[3:57:30] They were simply listeners.

[3:57:32] So I just want to make sure that he mentioned that the expert and this is not the expert.

[3:57:37] This is for the staff only.

[3:57:39] Staff is not experts?

[3:57:41] Well, I don't know.

[3:57:43] Well, earlier you were giving them all this.

[3:57:45] I'm a great job, the great job, the great job, the great job, the great job, can I speak now?

[3:57:53] Thank you.

[3:57:59] Thank you.

[3:58:00] Thank you.

[3:58:01] I appreciate that council member and mayor.

[3:58:08] So, you know, I guess, I'm happy, all of you guys are here, because I get to ask you guys question.

[3:58:14] but I want to be careful as well as direction from staff and city attorney. I appreciate you guys

[3:58:21] applying for this position. Of course, we want to go with the best of the best.

[3:58:30] But I wish I

[3:58:32] more time to see other candidate and just ask more questions.

[3:58:40] So Mr. Mayor, is it even possible for us maybe to revisit or what not, you know, what's

[3:58:53] your thought?

[3:58:54] We have the motion and second on the floor.

[3:58:58] So you are welcome to make your substitute motion, but we have the

[3:59:02] follow the passes. Okay, so with what I gather tonight, because

[3:59:09] that's all we had, I'm very pleased with what is recommended, but I also

[3:59:17] see that TLC is going to put an up front $500,000 to help the city versus the

[3:59:28] Latin Asian hospitality group.

[3:59:31] They want us to put up front like a hundred and maybe

[3:59:34] twenty, a hundred, fifteen or something like that.

[3:59:39] I understand like in a business mindset that any business

[3:59:45] who's going to put money up, they know for the first five

[3:59:48] year they go lose money, right?

[3:59:51] That's the business model that we as American has known.

[3:59:55] And for the generosity of TLC, knowing that they're going to...

[4:00:00] We put money up front to help with their marketing. She did mention that she's with the television. She did performance as well.

[4:00:10] And she knows some of the people who booked theater. And I think that's very important to know the climate of the city of Westminster.

[4:00:20] Can I finish please?

[4:00:24] I love the, you know, the roast theater.

[4:00:29] They have done for form and performance that were outstanding.

[4:00:33] I've seen it all.

[4:00:35] But what I'm thinking is if you guys can collaborate with even TLC,

[4:00:42] you know, to exchange certain ability that maybe they don't have the drama aspect or whatever.

[4:00:49] might be. Can I finish please? I respect him. I respect you guys. So, can I finish?

[4:00:57] So, do you guys are disrespecting Tim? The roast theater?

[4:01:02] Can you hold on on, please? If you need to discuss anything, I appreciate if you can go outside

[4:01:08] because right now, the time for the city council delivered their point of view. So, please,

[4:01:16] don't interrupt them because they have their time. It's just like you have your time. We don't interrupt you

[4:01:26] Okay, okay, even people who are supported the roast theater are laughing at you guys. Come on. Let's let's be respectful

[4:01:34] So the thing is that Tim and all of you guys TLC and the Asian Latin, you know group

[4:01:42] I appreciate all of you guys to want to make all city better. That means a lot, you know

[4:01:47] And then for us as council and staff, we want to make sure we choose the best who can help facilitate the city of move of city forward is very crucial is very important for us as our responsibility as council mayor here.

[4:02:02] So we have to do all diligent and sometimes we make decision that you guys might not like, but at least we're thinking for the betterment of the city and of course we talk about the partnership as well.

[4:02:13] And I know Tim is always open to collaboration, you know?

[4:02:18] And that's what I love about Tim, the roast theater.

[4:02:22] So with that, I agree that we should,

[4:02:29] from what I gather in tonight, you guys want an action item.

[4:02:33] As we, all the information I gather so far tonight,

[4:02:38] as fast as I can in three, well total 15 minutes.

[4:02:43] I see that TLC is the business model I really like, so, so with that, that is my third vote since we got the second, I will be the third.

[4:02:56] Well, all right, you done?

[4:02:59] Yes, I'm done.

[4:03:00] Okay, so with acceptance of number one, do you have anything to say or,

[4:03:05] if not, I will move for call full questions.

[4:03:09] I second it.

[4:03:10] Yeah, just go ahead.

[4:03:11] So there's no, there's a call for question already.

[4:03:16] So we have to take the mic.

[4:03:18] I mean, I think that we have a sub-stimotion on the floor.

[4:03:23] We didn't put a motion on the floor.

[4:03:25] It says second sub-stimotion.

[4:03:28] No, so the motion die.

[4:03:30] Sub-stimotion die.

[4:03:32] So at this time here we need to call for call for call for question first.

[4:03:40] We don't need to, which is what we are doing.

[4:03:41] Well, no, no, no, no, no. It is a coffee shop.

[4:03:44] There's a question that can be taken.

[4:03:46] We are going through the process.

[4:03:47] I don't think you understand how a coffee question

[4:03:49] works.

[4:03:50] How can a coffee question be taken?

[4:03:51] So, go.

[4:03:52] Where we have a motion in a second on the lower.

[4:03:54] A motion made by Mayor Wind seconded by District 1,

[4:03:58] Councilwoman Fan West.

[4:03:59] To the coffee question.

[4:04:01] District 1, Councilwoman Fan West.

[4:04:04] Fan West I. District 2, Councilmember Monzo.

[4:04:07] Yes.

[4:04:08] Yes.

[4:04:09] Yes.

[4:04:09] For council member one.

[4:04:11] Vice mayor one.

[4:04:13] Motion carried Pfizer.

[4:04:14] City Attorney, just a quick question.

[4:04:16] If we're done talking, do you need to call for a call for a question?

[4:04:20] It is not required.

[4:04:22] You can just go straight to a motion, but we've got a motion now.

[4:04:25] We can know.

[4:04:26] I understand that.

[4:04:28] My question to you is, if we're done talking and we'll have a motion in a second

[4:04:32] on the floor and we're ready to vote, do you have to call for a question?

[4:04:36] again you do not have to. Correct thank you. But we also could go for the fourth round, right as

[4:04:42] well. So that's why the Mayor call for question. Anyway, we have motion and second on the floor,

[4:04:49] go ahead and the call for do the roll call for the police. I have a motion made by Vice Mayor

[4:04:53] seconded by Mayor Win to move forward with TLC and to direct staff.

[4:05:00] I have to negotiate with the selected operator to draft an agreement in a form approved by the city attorney and for future council approval.

[4:05:09] District 1, councilwoman, fanwist.

[4:05:13] That was aye. District 2, council member Monso.

[4:05:16] No. District 4, council member 1. Yes.

[4:05:20] Vice-marwin. Yes.

[4:05:22] Mayerwin? Yes. Motion carried for one with District 2 Council Member Monso voting now.

[4:05:29] All right. Thank you very much. And then let's move on to the next items, which is the mission of well

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[4:06:50] a lotment as members of the public commenting in person.

[4:06:53] First speaker is Lone Wind followed by Donald Link.

[4:07:27] All those hours for nothing, huh?

[4:07:32] So are you serving the people of the city or are you serving yourself?

[4:07:41] You have a team that serve yourself and not the people of the city.

[4:07:50] you listen to me okay you

[4:07:59] guys please respect the

[4:08:02] chorom we have a chorom you want to cut out loud since we can read

[4:08:08] your mouth you you guys are disrespecting the local government that's super

[4:08:14] That's a member of West, please, just like

[4:08:16] Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor.

[4:08:20] You're going to be voted out, you know that.

[4:08:24] Do it. Right, we will do it.

[4:08:31] Or you do just do anything to serve yourself.

[4:08:38] You have you in the trick for.

[4:08:42] You don't serve the district.

[4:08:45] You let the street dirty.

[4:08:48] You don't care.

[4:08:54] And all you do is follow order from G Charlie.

[4:09:00] You know he's going to be out. You're going to be out too.

[4:09:11] Give me here to speak to my.

[4:09:14] You don't.

[4:09:15] You don't. Let's regard them like that.

[4:09:29] Are you here to serve the people? Are you here to serve G Charlie?

[4:09:38] Are you getting something out of this deal?

[4:09:55] Where's that all these people?

[4:10:00] You destroying the community. And you just sit there and

[4:10:09] nothing.

[4:10:24] And believe I'm with this in this.

[4:10:33] The worst council ever. Thank you.

[4:10:40] Next speaker, Donald Lank, followed by Tammy Hamilton.

[4:10:57] performance with the habit of how Celle who's on first will. When you directed him to say

[4:11:03] a bunch of BS for you and then you went back and forth and back and forth and Mark said,

[4:11:10] we'll decompromise, we'll do the needs of will for the sake of the city. You don't do anything

[4:11:16] for the sake of the city, Charlie. You do it for the sake of Charlie and it's evident. And I hope

[4:11:23] God, this just gets everybody up to vote and so they can look at you and say, your time is up.

[4:11:35] You are entitled to have your opinions and it is fine. Next speaker, Tammy Hamel, followed by Alex Fuzz.

[4:11:54] Tammy Hamel was a resident district one, unfortunately with our representatives. You just prove you don't listen to residents.

[4:12:03] not one person in the e-mails or up here wanted what you just did with the road center.

[4:12:08] You say you listen, yeah, no, you got your smug a little look. It's really clear that you got

[4:12:12] something going on with that group to ignore theater DNA twice now apparently. Not go with the

[4:12:18] rating, not listen. You clearly have something going on with that group. It's very clear. We see

[4:12:24] what you guys are doing. You think we don't, but we do. You don't give a shit about this city.

[4:12:29] You are here to do whatever you can for your own benefit and to see how emotional loan was getting

[4:12:34] That's someone who cares about this city and cares about her district. So I will say again

[4:12:40] What's the resonance if you're tired of this crap with these three and you know

[4:12:45] I'm including you now because you clearly are just going along with whatever he wants

[4:12:49] That's what you've been doing the entire time

[4:12:51] vote for David Johnson district one

[4:12:54] Loneland district four Carlos Manzo for mayor because these four motherfuckers have got to go or our city is going to go down

[4:13:01] And you can fuck off with your disrespect with swear words. The shit that you have said

[4:13:07] Mayor run the meeting. Yes, go ahead

[4:13:09] But we want it in a profit. We have kids you mentioned.

[4:13:14] Watch the

[4:13:15] You have to go ahead and see what happens.

[4:13:17] I thought you was talking about the accusations.

[4:13:20] You've made about people.

[4:13:21] You're following her now because now you're going to

[4:13:24] give in to what you said she couldn't do.

[4:13:27] Because she didn't follow the rules.

[4:13:29] You're just going to give in because you're

[4:13:31] fucking weak in your fucking shit.

[4:13:33] And everyone needs to vote on the court.

[4:13:34] Go ahead and see what you need to say.

[4:13:37] This is the commissioner of the city.

[4:13:41] And I'm not going to take that as from the commissioning of the city.

[4:13:45] I agree with that, Mr. Mayor, this is a misrepresenting the city Tammy.

[4:13:52] This is outrageous.

[4:13:53] This is outrageous misrepresenting the local government,

[4:13:57] and whoever appoint her is shameful.

[4:14:00] This is how our city represents those who cuss out of the mouth and kids watching.

[4:14:05] That's disgusting.

[4:14:08] All right, next speaker, please.

[4:14:12] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[4:14:13] Alex Voss followed by Terry Reins.

[4:14:22] Hi Alex Voss, I'm back over here.

[4:14:24] So I can see that none of you did any due diligence on TLC.

[4:14:28] They ran the side on theater into the ground and it closed.

[4:14:33] And now the Sapphire theater, they've put on two events this year.

[4:14:37] They don't sell tickets, they don't get people in the seats.

[4:14:41] So why would you want them running our theater?

[4:14:44] That makes no sense.

[4:14:46] So, also, we know that the last theater group that wanted the theater were the people that

[4:14:52] funded your campaign, Mr. Mayor, for Congress, and then the guy died, and so that game was

[4:14:59] over.

[4:15:00] Now we have TLC back in the mix that I'm sure is funding something for you. Anyways. So that being said, you

[4:15:08] guys don't listen anything. Staff made some great recommendations. You didn't listen. You went with

[4:15:15] the lowest on the totem pole, TLC, which was the same points awarded as a coffee shop. Okay? They scored

[4:15:23] the same as a coffee shop. And you want them to run an entertainment venue. All right?

[4:15:31] They don't put anyone in the seats. Go look at the Sapphire. They have the events. They don't put

[4:15:37] on events. They don't do anything. You guys are making poor decisions just because she said she owns

[4:15:44] a restaurant or works at a restaurant. So she's going to do that too. Like, do you guys know how to

[4:15:50] run a business, I don't think so, because you're just destroying the one we have right here.

[4:15:56] Okay, and you can ask smart and sit up there and think you're making good decisions, but I know

[4:16:00] for fact, you're not because they don't sell any tickets, and they'll just run this place into the ground.

[4:16:06] It needs about 3 million in repairs. We all know that. It needs a new roof.

[4:16:11] The other guy from LA, whatever, the Asian one, he actually, I agreed with him.

[4:16:17] He was going to let the friends run the theater and he was going to expand the banquet side with

[4:16:22] his ghost kitchen features and everything else, which was actually pretty smart, all right?

[4:16:28] But you guys still made a bad decision.

[4:16:30] So why are you representing our city if you're just making bad decisions for the residents?

[4:16:37] And that's why we have to get out and vote you out because you're obviously not fit for

[4:16:42] the job.

[4:16:42] So, you know, you're making bad decisions, you're pushing bad decisions, you're getting the

[4:16:47] vice mayor to make bad decisions, which could get him voted out in the next term.

[4:16:53] So the reality is, you're making bad decisions and they're going to come back around to you.

[4:16:58] Because you can't just keep making these bad decisions for our city, putting the people that

[4:17:04] shouldn't be in charge of something and charge of something.

[4:17:07] You sat up here and lied and said, we're not going to change the rows.

[4:17:11] it's going to stay the same. All you people here, it's going to stay the same. It's not

[4:17:15] staying the same. You're going to run it into the ground and it will most likely be done

[4:17:21] because if you're a bad decision.

[4:17:25] Last speaker, Terry Rain. Who are entitled to your opinions?

[4:17:29] I respect that. You've had that. Yeah, you know.

[4:17:36] Matthew, hope you win. Can I? Yeah. You have destroyed this community. You continue to do it and we are

[4:17:42] to vote you out. But I was here to report some court stuff after losing court again August 4th

[4:17:48] in the city case, including monetary sanctions on the 21st. Amy's latest defense council moved

[4:17:53] to be relieved of representing her telling the court, quote, due to fundamental breakdown in

[4:17:57] the attorney-client relationship, Client's failure to fulfill agreed upon financial obligations

[4:18:01] for legal services. Can he do representation has become unreasonably difficult? Client's

[4:18:07] failure to pay outstanding legal fees, unnecessary litigation costs despite Council's request

[4:18:12] repayment, which is substantially impaired

[4:18:14] counsel's ability to continue representation.

[4:18:18] So Amy, you've caused yourself all these problems.

[4:18:20] You could have simply accepted the city's requested

[4:18:22] injunction if they'd done what this long ago,

[4:18:24] but you chose to drag it out and not pay your attorneys.

[4:18:27] Reputs you so bitch.

[4:18:29] Also, on the 21st, the Harris County Texas Court,

[4:18:32] and I defend at Namquan emergency motion

[4:18:35] because it lacked verification and it's untimely.

[4:18:38] And today at our courthouse, W-13, the OCDA presented evidence, supporting their July 30th,

[4:18:47] brief opposing completion of diversion and urging the Court to re-instate criminal

[4:18:50] proceedings against Amy Phan West.

[4:18:52] A day in Vesgetter was the only sworn witness.

[4:18:54] A video of Amy speaking at the CA-45, candid form where she implicated Todd Spitzer, her own

[4:18:59] defense counsel, and this judge, was played for the Court room.

[4:19:03] Her defense counsel objected by, primarily, naming me, and making several of the spiritual

[4:19:08] comments about me, highly inappropriate, since I wasn't on the stand to defend myself during

[4:19:13] cross-examination.

[4:19:14] He actually tried to force the witness to characterize my intent and submissions and

[4:19:18] discredit me to no avail.

[4:19:21] So in the end, the court resists a few times and in the end, the judge did deny the DA's

[4:19:28] brief and allowed Amy to complete diversion.

[4:19:31] But you know what?

[4:19:32] There will be plenty of future opportunities existing and planned that will present more opportunities

[4:19:37] for West to face real legal consequences to stay tuned.

[4:19:42] I can't believe the four of you.

[4:19:45] This is outrageous.

[4:19:47] Hundreds of people over the last year,

[4:19:49] hundreds, thousands have went into you

[4:19:52] and showed up here and put their hearts out to you

[4:19:54] and you don't can care.

[4:19:56] Do you?

[4:19:57] You are a poaching mind.

[4:19:59] You are.

[4:20:02] We want to cooperate just like a communist dictator Amy was right, but now she's back with you, huh? How did that work out behind closed doors? What do you guys agree on to do? So, you know what, West Mr. We must campaign and vote for Carlos Mandel for Mayor Lonewen for Dissert Foreign David Johnson for Dissert One. Let's finally remove the unethical and corrupt dictators from this dius, Charlie Namquan and Amy, once and for all, and save our city. Mark years will be next time.

[4:20:31] I am so angry as this is community.

[4:20:36] Your time is up.

[4:20:38] All right.

[4:20:39] Thank you.

[4:20:40] Mr. Mayor, Mayor, we have no fruit.

[4:20:44] Okay.

[4:20:45] Break brief comment, please.

[4:20:47] Thanks. I think she said there's no comments.

[4:20:50] So can I talk now?

[4:20:51] In person.

[4:20:53] Just.

[4:20:54] Sorry.

[4:20:55] We have no speakers in person or on Zoom.

[4:20:58] Make a brief comment, please.

[4:21:00] Okay.

[4:21:00] So I want to address Tammel and Tammi and Alex, I know that you said regarding, you know, the study here recommended by staff, ranking number one is Latino Asian hospitality group, and I know that you guys came out to support the rose theater, and I know Tim, you know, I mean, he is a great man. He has great skills with the theater, but with your guys.

[4:21:29] You guys basically propose is that we should hire recommendation from staff as Latin Asian

[4:21:36] hospitality group but they want money upfront and that's not the business model we want to

[4:21:41] do and we made it really clear with the council here even myself I don't want that that's not

[4:21:46] the business model we will lose. Now the thing is that regarding Terry Reigns addressing the court

[4:21:53] today. I am so thankful that the judge ruling to drop the case of alleged rivalry and the judge

[4:22:02] call Terry Reigns out herself, the judge. That's what she is doing to me is unacceptable. So therefore,

[4:22:13] we have the record. So they can lie all they want, but the judge call her out. That Amy has the right

[4:22:21] to put her,

[4:22:23] letter headscarments, please.

[4:22:26] Letter I almost done, Mr. Mayor, thank you.

[4:22:28] Letter head to,

[4:22:31] to basically

[4:22:33] address the community that I serve and that's my duty.

[4:22:37] That's what the judge said.

[4:22:38] And so they have not the DA and terror reigns the people.

[4:22:42] Have not find any legal code that I have violated for Mr.

[4:22:46] Meiner or criminals.

[4:22:47] So therefore the judge dropped me.

[4:22:49] If you want, you can see it.

[4:22:50] And I want to say thank you.

[4:22:51] Right now.

[4:22:52] Right now.

[4:22:52] Just brief comment.

[4:22:54] Absolutely.

[4:22:54] Thank you.

[4:22:54] I'm done.

[4:22:56] All right.

[4:22:58] With that, we will move on to the next business item.

[4:23:03] Business matters from the City Council agency numbers.

[4:23:07] That's it.

[4:23:08] It's 9.1 consideration to reverse existing property.

[4:23:13] So you should prohibition on district one council woman,

[4:23:17] Amy Francois, speaking at the city public,

[4:23:19] so we were only, so we were, so we were only your events.

[4:23:24] So I was the one who put up this item due to the request

[4:23:30] from, you know, after I had a chance talking to her,

[4:23:34] like I said before, if C were, you know,

[4:23:38] a remorse about what had happened, then we are not even come up with that sanction, but because

[4:23:46] after time, she thinks that she is right. But now she said that, okay, after looking at

[4:23:53] over, she thinks that the, you know, is just a mistake that was unintentionally. So I think that,

[4:23:59] you know, it's with, I am always willing to work with the city council to move the city bed,

[4:24:06] you know to the next level. So at this point here I recognize this item to remove the reverse

[4:24:15] the prohibition of the district one customer woman from speaking a city public central

[4:24:24] some more more even and that's my motion I have a few yes please thank you

[4:24:31] mayor when this came up I don't know when it was but when this was proposed to

[4:24:38] initiate initiate the sanction I originally I guess remember I was I was not

[4:24:43] going to vote on this I was not going to I was not going to vote yes I simply

[4:24:47] asked the council council member to just fess up and if she would have said yes

[4:24:54] I did it and I was wrong, I would have never avoided for that because I didn't.

[4:25:00] I don't think that I was a good thing to do to put a sanction and prevent her from speaking

[4:25:04] of city events, but she didn't. And then right now, she still hasn't, but the mayor, I'm

[4:25:11] sure, is one of those things that people out there say, you know, I don't know if for

[4:25:15] a fact, but, you know, it seems to me like there may be there was some little bit of kind of agreement

[4:25:21] there. I hope that the councilwoman, woman, council member can say here, she has an opportunity

[4:25:29] Yes, let's see if she does because you know she I know I know she knows she was doing something

[4:25:36] She shouldn't have and I know that mayor knows that as well. I just hope mayor that she

[4:25:42] Like you said she might have told you and and

[4:25:45] Private, but she or she has an opportunity to do it in public and then I think that's what we wanted you and I wanted

[4:25:52] Initially right so I hope I hope she does that and and I again I was not gonna vote on it

[4:25:59] to put that sanction on her, but you know, I was wanted to be heard of be honest with everybody and hope she does.

[4:26:08] That's all I got.

[4:26:09] Okay, thank you.

[4:26:11] Any comments from the customer, but yes.

[4:26:14] Yes, Mr. Mayor.

[4:26:15] Thank you.

[4:26:17] Basically this was at the court today because it became an ethical thing, right?

[4:26:23] And they brought Terry Rang, brought this up accusation of my alleged bribery,

[4:26:29] And the judge said that what she's doing, you guys don't have the evidence, that you think that she's been an ethical campaigning.

[4:26:43] And that's what the judge said I'm reading from the transcript right now.

[4:26:48] and also it says that the photo of the people on there, you can't tell the judge if it's about

[4:27:01] her, what pamphlets, if she can't paint her or anything. So the judge recommended to D.A.

[4:27:07] who represent Terry Rings and the people saying that she did not violate any code of any ethical

[4:27:16] You guys don't have the evidence, the evidence is the proof on the way the people of California, that's what you guys put us.

[4:27:26] So Terry rang the people.

[4:27:28] The evidence, the burdens on you and the DA, and they didn't provide that to the judge.

[4:27:34] So therefore the judge dropped it.

[4:27:36] So I'm thankful that the mayor sees this as well, that he sees that I want to work with the council.

[4:27:42] there is a mishab, you know, there's no intention like he mentioned of me trying to do any harm

[4:27:49] to the city or campaigning. So I thank you the mayor for putting it on. I hope the council

[4:27:55] will see my heart that and what the judge has dropped today and saying it's not unethical.

[4:28:02] And so therefore I ask the council will see that as well and vote for a yes on this item nine point one.

[4:28:09] Thank you.

[4:28:10] So there was nothing?

[4:28:13] Okay.

[4:28:14] Anything else from the council?

[4:28:17] I have the motion already.

[4:28:19] I second it.

[4:28:20] Mayor May.

[4:28:21] Have a second.

[4:28:23] So.

[4:28:24] So when we when the you brought when you brought this up whenever this was.

[4:28:29] The we know for a fact that she went on on stage and used the city.

[4:28:33] taxpayer on microphone to announce she's running for campaign on on on the on the stage and you had an issue with that

[4:28:44] But I don't hear her saying that right now and acknowledging that

[4:28:49] She she knows that she was

[4:28:52] Passing out flyers during her team were passing out flyers during the the tap parade and you know that

[4:29:00] why you saw her, I saw her, a lot of people saw her, but she's not, she's not admitting to it right now.

[4:29:07] So why would you support her if she's not admitting to it?

[4:29:10] Carlos Monzo, why don't you tell the judge that?

[4:29:13] No, that's not the answer, let me.

[4:29:15] Let me tell you.

[4:29:16] Where is the wrong answer?

[4:29:17] I'm asking him, Mattie, please.

[4:29:20] Yes, he asked me questions.

[4:29:23] At first, when he spoke about it, I thought that she was trying to run away from it.

[4:29:29] But if you listen to her later on, she said that it is a missed half, and this is intentionally.

[4:29:36] So what I'm saying, I'm asking you question, will this thing happen again?

[4:29:42] The thing is that, like I say, it was not intended, right?

[4:29:47] And whatever that happened, that you guys think that I was campaigning on ethical,

[4:29:53] but even the judge ruling, that's why, but the mayor, I'm saying it's what I'm saying.

[4:29:58] Yeah, that would.

[4:30:00] You agree that this is something that- A misapp. Yes, I agree. It's not going to happen. Yes, I agree. This is a misapp. Thank you Mr. Mayor.

[4:30:09] Okay. All right. You said you were not. We have motion and second.

[4:30:14] You see, she wants to see.

[4:30:16] So you have the ability to see that.

[4:30:18] It's a sublimit motion, or not.

[4:30:21] If not, go ahead and call for the vote.

[4:30:23] I have a motion made by Mayor Wednesday. Seconded by district one, Councilwoman Fanwast,

[4:30:28] to reverse the prohibition on District 1 Councilwoman Amy Fan West from speaking at City Public

[4:30:35] ceremonial events. I'll go ahead and call roll. District 1 Councilwoman Fan West.

[4:30:42] Fan West I. District 2 Councilmember Monso.

[4:30:45] Like I said earlier, I never wondered a vote on this, but it just makes me laugh out.

[4:30:50] There's some people out there in the world can never have met wrong ever, ever have met wrong.

[4:30:55] Nobody's perfect for it, Juanzel.

[4:30:57] So don't go there.

[4:30:59] Nobody's perfect for you.

[4:31:00] Mayor, Mayor, I see that's your vote.

[4:31:05] Her vote is costing so much.

[4:31:06] Why are you choosing me when you want to work with me, right?

[4:31:09] First, I do, yes, yes, I do.

[4:31:11] You're choosing me.

[4:31:12] Please, you don't accuse people if you want to work with you.

[4:31:16] I do want to work with you.

[4:31:17] Castle member, I mean, if I'm worse, I'm going to finish.

[4:31:22] Yeah, I'm going to vote.

[4:31:23] I just I just want like I said no I just want to tell you I did I didn't want to go for this

[4:31:29] Like I said earlier. I did not want to go for it. I actually I'm going to say this I thought it was not good for

[4:31:35] For you call for the sanction on her, but I voted for it. I told you I didn't think it was good to do that

[4:31:41] But we had to as a council. I just still don't think it's good, but just for the sake that she's not admitting that she did something wrong

[4:31:48] She's she didn't admit it. I'm had to vote. No, but I don't want to vote

[4:31:52] No, but I have to.

[4:31:54] Mr. Mayor, can I address district four council member Win?

[4:32:01] Okay,

[4:32:04] man, this is at the very beginning

[4:32:08] and I speak aloud that I don't want to vote on this.

[4:32:15] But you guys go ahead and vote it to silence her.

[4:32:21] And I just abstain on my vote.

[4:32:34] But I, obviously, I think this is strong, you know,

[4:32:37] to silence your colleagues on that highest.

[4:32:43] And, you know, you can come up with some other method to, you know,

[4:32:51] But, you know, to silence a person or a representative of the people is wrong, that's what I think.

[4:33:01] But, okay, so this is the opportunity to let us begin.

[4:33:09] I'm okay with it. I'm wondering what yes.

[4:33:13] Vice Mayor Win?

[4:33:14] Well, I initially motion this original motion, out of frustration, but since then I have

[4:33:24] seen what chaos has created, what I wanted to touch and ask created, so I'm just going

[4:33:30] to move yes and just just to get rid of this, this item.

[4:33:34] Thank you.

[4:33:35] Mayor Win?

[4:33:35] Yes.

[4:33:36] Motion carried for one with District 2 Council Member Monzo voting.

[4:33:41] You know, Mr. Mayor, can I make a statement he just made about me?

[4:33:46] I think we are done with this.

[4:33:49] Okay.

[4:33:51] Comments and requests for agenda items from City Council agency members, including AB1234 report when required.

[4:34:01] Let me let me tell remind you that you have five minutes and if you have the five minutes,

[4:34:07] If you don't already request the item on the agenda, then I'm not going to grant more time for that, because I'm already reminded you.

[4:34:19] So let's start with Professor Member West.

[4:34:31] Professor Member No. 1 win.

[4:34:34] Thank you Mr. Mayor.

[4:34:37] As usual, I just want to thank you staff.

[4:34:41] Thank you Vanessa and your team, you guys put together a very phenomenal report.

[4:34:50] I just go through it and say, wow, the team did like a lot of more than what I...

[4:35:00] What I expect you guys to do. So thank you for that. And, you know, always thank you, LPD and the firefighters.

[4:35:13] All right. Thank you, Councillor Mervain.

[4:35:16] One minute, next is Councillor Mervain.

[4:35:19] Thank you, Mayor. This is just real quick for staff. I don't know if this is this, this is this constitutive agenda.

[4:35:27] this doesn't. And we learned about the potential, well, not the potential. It's going to be

[4:35:34] related to the four or five toll roads. The revenue would be coming in and 2029.

[4:35:43] We learned that we know that information. I think we need to be ready for that.

[4:35:49] I think I'm just asking if something is staff is, I'm suggesting maybe a community outreach

[4:35:56] you know, get out there with the community and see what type of projects we can do with

[4:36:03] those funds when they do come in in 2029, community workshops, you know, we would like to

[4:36:09] kind of projects they would like to see mediums, navy trail, you know, the Hoover Street going

[4:36:17] all the way to MacFadden, you know, something that, so when that time comes we're ready.

[4:36:23] We're not going to start then and then take a while to get things done.

[4:36:27] I want to make sure that we are ready to hit the ground running when that time comes.

[4:36:32] Yes, sir.

[4:36:33] We're very excited about the excess revenue.

[4:36:36] Our council is very supportive 20 years ago in fighting to keep that money not just in

[4:36:42] Orange County but keeping it along the corridor.

[4:36:46] Similar to when we hear there's a lot of grant money out there, it comes with the rules.

[4:36:51] Those rules are being worked out. So if there is a

[4:36:55] part of money that is

[4:36:57] To be used at a certain with certain discretion that does not have programmatic rules built into it

[4:37:03] Definitely outreach at that point would make some sense, but we don't know at this time and I would think that most of it is going to be very

[4:37:10] programmatic and fall within categories of OC

[4:37:13] I just know CT. Yeah, I just think we need to be proactive. Yes, and be ready when that time comes

[4:37:18] All right. Next up, a request for a proclamation for the next in October is a

[4:37:27] Code enforcement month. Code enforcement officer month, Code enforcement month. But also

[4:37:33] too, there was a, in 2018, it was a state-lature assembly bill called her number 2833, adding

[4:37:44] and the measure that annually designates the second week of October as quote enforcement officer

[4:37:51] appreciation, we concurring in city councils to approve a proclamation to establish the

[4:37:59] second week of October as quote enforcement officer appreciation week. Is that something that we

[4:38:05] and bring forward for Council to approve, to consider, I mean?

[4:38:12] We do it for other staff functions, and we can just put it on, you don't have to

[4:38:17] generalize it.

[4:38:18] We just slap it on, I think.

[4:38:20] Thank you.

[4:38:21] Again, thank you all for coming out and being with us today.

[4:38:27] I know some decisions, you know, anger folks that we didn't get their way, but unfortunately,

[4:38:33] that is the way that it goes, you know, you get the majority council makes a decision and

[4:38:39] made it not does not what people wanted to hear. So it's just that's the way it goes, I guess.

[4:38:45] Thank you, staff, team, great. Today was a good meeting. A lot of great information came.

[4:38:53] That the progress or staffs been doing with, you know, with public works and community service.

[4:39:00] great job guys. Thank you all for being here.

[4:39:03] All right. Thank you, councilmember.

[4:39:06] Next is Vice President.

[4:39:09] Well, I would like to go back to.

[4:39:19] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[4:39:21] So first, I want to thank staff.

[4:39:23] Thank you for all you guys.

[4:39:24] You genuinely, from my heart that you guys worked so hard.

[4:39:28] You know, as department head, you guys take care of your department really well.

[4:39:32] And you guys are on top of things.

[4:39:33] I am so thankful for you guys to help our city.

[4:39:36] And then not only that, I'll fire in our law enforcement.

[4:39:40] Thank you for all you guys do to protect the city,

[4:39:42] the resident, the businesses, but also to everyone

[4:39:45] that comes through the city of Westminster.

[4:39:48] Thank you so much.

[4:39:49] And of course, last, I want to thank you, Christine,

[4:39:54] and Adolfo City Manager and Assistant Manager

[4:39:56] for all you guys do to run the city is so important.

[4:40:00] adjourned is a crucial job and you guys do it well with a happy face. So thank you. And, you know, city attorney, thank you for keeping us legally in line. I appreciate that. That means a lot because we do need that protection to make sure we're always, you know, being good. What we do, right? So thank you, city attorney. And, you know, today with the case that's dropped, that's been over my head and my family for the last a year and a half more than a year and a half.

[4:40:30] and it has drained us emotionally, spiritually, and financially, they got what they wanted.

[4:40:36] You know, but we're still thankful that it's drop and it's done. We can put that behind us that chapter.

[4:40:42] So I got this message from my husband today and I just want to read it. I have three minutes here.

[4:40:48] So Amy Fan was today. I am overwhelmed with gratitude and pride for you.

[4:40:53] You walk through something incredibly difficult. Something you never have had to endure.

[4:40:59] You were wrongly accused, yet through it all you stood strong, fought for the truth and trust in the Lord Jesus.

[4:41:07] What makes me most proud isn't simply that the case was dropped.

[4:41:12] It's how you carry yourself through the battle.

[4:41:15] You show courage when you have every reason to be afraid.

[4:41:20] You remain steadfast when things were uncertain.

[4:41:23] And even toward those who accuse you, you show grace, forgiveness, and the love of Jesus Christ.

[4:41:31] As your husband, I have watched you endure this well continue to be an incredible wife

[4:41:38] and mother to a three sons. You have been an example of strength, faith, character, to a family.

[4:41:46] You didn't just tell us, trust God, you show us what trust in God looks like.

[4:41:53] I am so honored to be your husband. I admire your courage, your faith, and the woman you are.

[4:41:59] I thank God for carrying you through this and giving you the strength to remain faithful to Him through it all.

[4:42:06] Today, we can finally put this chapter behind us and thank the Lord for bringing us through.

[4:42:11] I love you. I'm proud of you. And I will always stand beside you. Your husband, Jeremy West.

[4:42:19] So with that message, it really just touched my heart because, you know, it's so hard to be wrongly accused for something and keep silent for a year and a half.

[4:42:33] So I understand this is a shoe I walk in.

[4:42:36] So those of you who walk in this shoes

[4:42:38] are being miscadgarized, misjudgment,

[4:42:43] and discriminated, but also wrongly accused.

[4:42:47] I hear you.

[4:42:48] I see you guys.

[4:42:50] So that's why I am thankful that God allow me to go through this

[4:42:54] because now I know how those who are been mistreated,

[4:43:00] You know, walk through that path. I can, I can have compassion. So with that, Mr. Mayor, I have

[4:43:09] a minute. I just want to say as we end the month of August. I am so thankful for this council.

[4:43:16] I know that the people has trusted you guys to lead the city forward. And that is a high calling.

[4:43:23] And I look forward to working with you guys. And I know that we can move the city forward

[4:43:29] and help the resident and the businesses and I'm so excited to look forward to working alongside you guys in the next four years.

[4:43:41] And I take this, this entrustment.

[4:43:44] The people have entrusted us in the city of Westminster.

[4:43:48] I take this calling really seriously.

[4:43:51] And for the next four year, I look forward to working with you all to move the city forward.

[4:43:57] So, thank you for the voters who trusted us to continue this journey to be your voice.

[4:44:03] God bless you. Have a good night. Take care.

[4:44:08] All right. My name is Marath. Thank you, Mayor. Of course. Thank you, city staff and PD and fire

[4:44:18] for always continuing to move to see forward in your dedication. I know tonight's meeting was hard.

[4:44:29] But change is hard.

[4:44:33] Whether you like it or not.

[4:44:37] I want to agenda is an item. I want to

[4:44:40] reverse my appointment of Terry Hammel from the citizen of the psych committee.

[4:44:45] I second not. If you need a second. Okay. All right. So is that anything else?

[4:44:53] No, that's it. Thank you. Okay. So we have the motion and second.

[4:45:00] On the floor, who hadn't repeated the motion and call for the vote, please.

[4:45:08] I have a motion made by Vice Mayor Wynn, seconded by District 1, Councilwoman Fan West.

[4:45:14] It's to reverse the appointment.

[4:45:17] Or to connect to the agenda item.

[4:45:20] To agenda is a consideration of removing Tammy Hamilton from the commission.

[4:45:30] District one, Councilwoman Fenwist, Fenwist, I, but I want to say this is a local government

[4:45:36] Mr. Vice Mayor, and I respect and honor you for bringing this up because it's so hard.

[4:45:41] Once we have points, someone is hard for us to want to remove them.

[4:45:45] So it takes courage, Mr. Vice Mayor, so I thank you for that and this is a local government.

[4:45:51] We need to bring that respect back to our local government and it's time for others neighboring city honor and respect us once again.

[4:45:59] So thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. That's why I second and my vote is yes.

[4:46:04] District 2 Council Member Mondo.

[4:46:07] District 4 Council Member Win? Yes. Vice Mayor Win? Yes. Mayor Win.

[4:46:12] Before I vote, I just want to mention that this is not the first time.

[4:46:17] This happens several times already.

[4:46:19] And I can't stand that kind of language in front of the council.

[4:46:25] And I mentioned it before that, you know,

[4:46:27] we have our students follow the meetings so that they can get credit.

[4:46:33] And then this is not the right environment for that.

[4:46:36] So my vote is yes.

[4:46:39] Motion carried five zero.

[4:46:41] Okay, it's my turn right now.

[4:46:43] First of all, I would like to thank you for coming out and spick your mind.

[4:46:47] You are entitled to have your opinion, but we have to do have the work to do.

[4:46:52] And we are representing the whole entire community, not the specific special interest group.

[4:47:01] So we have to do what we have to do.

[4:47:04] Now, I would like to thank our PDs.

[4:47:09] I want to thank all staff, especially our city manager and assistant city manager and public works as well as parks and recreation.

[4:47:26] I know that you guys have been doing great job and appreciate everything that you do.

[4:47:31] We also have the Richard here tonight.

[4:47:34] And thank you for, you know, starting here with us.

[4:47:39] And I know that there's a lot of work on your plate

[4:47:42] that you have to carry forward, so again, be patient with us

[4:47:46] and work with us on this month to move the city forward.

[4:47:49] Thank you very much.

[4:47:51] And before I turn the meeting tonight, I would like to have a few

[4:47:57] was in memory of Jeff Sarah, for a tournament tonight, I would like to adjourn the meeting in

[4:48:06] memory of traffic commissioner and long time resident Jeff Sarah, who passed away over the

[4:48:13] summer. His passion for the community involvement was unwavering and he will be missed.

[4:48:21] our thoughts and prayers are with his loved one. So again,

[4:48:30] in memory of Jeff, I would like to

[4:48:32] add to you on this meeting and the next regular meeting will be held on Wednesday, September

[4:48:38] 9, 2020, 6 p.m. So meeting at adjourn.

City Council on 2026-08-26 CLOSED SESSION - 4:30 p.m. | OPEN SESSION - 6:00 p.m. - REGULAR MEETING

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