[0:01] All right, so this is the unit hearing for, you know, I'm sorry,

[0:24] I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, you know, I think it was like that it was a list, but actually it's a long swing.

[0:30] So I'm going to be starting right now.

[0:36] So I'm going to say what it is.

[0:37] It's not a BBA meeting.

[0:39] It's a green spirit for current use for the fall.

[0:43] And I'm sorry that it's.

[0:46] It's it's right here on the.

[0:48] And I'm sorry.

[0:50] And I'm sorry.

[0:51] And I'm sorry.

[0:52] And I'm sorry.

[0:59] Well at 930, we get minutes full of bus parks.

[1:02] Yeah, we know how it is.

[1:03] We're in our parents.

[1:04] We're already breathing.

[1:06] Four of us.

[1:07] Four of us.

[1:08] Two of us.

[1:09] That's the very, what we did.

[1:10] What is your comment down?

[1:12] Why did we get her to see her?

[1:13] Well we have to post it.

[1:14] General, we'll just say.

[1:15] To general, notice it.

[1:16] Right.

[1:16] But it's what it was.

[1:18] But it's just an old community.

[1:20] Oh, part of it.

[1:20] Oh, it was now that everybody on the.

[1:24] Yep.

[1:25] It's more to listen.

[1:26] I'm still not sure what's the purpose of breathing.

[1:29] Well, I'd be able to see it.

[1:30] OK, for me, we're starting now.

[1:32] So I'm going to announce what it's for.

[1:35] We're going to move ahead with me

[1:36] if you're more than welcome to attend, if you'd like to.

[1:39] OK, because I was wondering why I received it.

[1:41] I thought it had to do with one.

[1:42] No, we have to publicize all breathing.

[1:45] So that's how it was.

[1:46] This is a first, three minutes with the last question.

[1:48] OK, the meeting is starting.

[1:50] It's 9.30.

[1:52] and it's a grievance hearing for 1.84 acre piece of property that's being withdrawn from current use.

[2:03] That's not correct.

[2:05] Oh wait, do I need to go?

[2:08] That's six acres.

[2:10] Wrong.

[2:11] Wrong grievance.

[2:12] It's for six acre.

[2:14] of parcel being withdrawn from current use on the property located at 1347 Lakeview

[2:26] a row that's property ID 120 dash 1347 span number 729 232 10519. The appell is Eric

[2:38] Towson who is here by Zoom and this process of the meeting is that you will present your evidence on why do you think the assessment of 34,900 for that land is not agreeable and we'll listen to your evidence and then we will.

[3:06] later, deliberate and send you an answer, be a male. Perfect.

[3:16] You've got the floor. Okay, so this is an open meeting.

[3:21] It's an open meeting.

[3:23] The Board of Civil Authority had just had a grievance meeting,

[3:29] and so they got everybody, the public notice was sent out to all of the people.

[3:35] And they thought it was a board of civil authority meeting, and they came there to do a board of civil authority agreements.

[3:44] There are a listters, there are agreements.

[3:48] In the board of civil authority.

[3:49] So now the board of civil authority, if it is a current use agreements.

[3:55] So if we don't agree and Eric wants to take a further, if he would appeal to the current use and not to the board of civil authority.

[4:02] So, this differs from the regular grievance that you end by the end of duty.

[4:07] Right, it's totally different.

[4:09] Yeah, because that wasn't explained in the others.

[4:12] Just like now.

[4:13] No, no, it's explained what they agree with.

[4:16] So, we'll go.

[4:18] We'll give you the floor.

[4:19] Thank you.

[4:20] Hi, Chris.

[4:22] I'm going to go like computer.

[4:24] Okay.

[4:27] So, I guess first what I'd like to know from the, from the,

[4:31] the listers office is what the grade was assessed for for the house site. So it's a six

[4:38] acre piece. And you guys since this current use discontinuance rule is as I understand

[4:43] them. As you need to assess a house site, it has a separate parcel which means it gets

[4:48] assessed a house site for the discontinuance. But I don't know and I haven't seen is what

[4:53] the assessment is for the grade of the house site. And that's one thing that I think I would

[4:59] to appeal because where the the six acres is as I've shown you on the map is in a wooded area

[5:09] a steep area and significant distance from the road. So there's no road access to this at this time.

[5:16] And it's a steep piece of land and it's completely wooded. So depending on what I would argue,

[5:22] great to be lower on the house side as well as the land.

[5:29] But I don't know what that great is.

[5:31] I am assuming of the greatest. Because what I gave is a sheet of paper with a very

[5:35] gave you a copy of the of the assessment with the great on it. And what was that great now I'm

[5:43] looking because I'm looking I got the wrong the around thing here. It was one. Yeah, do you have that?

[5:51] What you can't, because it's separate, that's separate notice, hang on a minute, Eric, okay, this is 51, what did I keep up?

[6:11] It's a 1.1, the greatest goal of 1.1 for a rich piece.

[6:16] Or the 6-acre law, as a, yeah, as a...

[6:19] So that includes, so that's six take a lot.

[6:21] You're saying it's a 1.1 for the house site and the land.

[6:25] Right.

[6:27] Okay.

[6:28] Which, yeah.

[6:29] What's made it?

[6:29] So that would be better than average for my neighborhood.

[6:33] Which, I think is inaccurate because of the location of the house site being off the road

[6:40] and in the woods and primarily moderate to steep grades for that six acres.

[6:48] So what I'd ask is that you read, I think that the grade should be lowered from somewhere

[6:57] in the 1.1 category down to like the 0.6 category.

[7:02] And I would say you need to look at what other houses you have where they don't have road

[7:09] front of jacksets as I know there's a one comparable over in your silver lane where the person

[7:14] There's a little cabin. It has a house set adjust. The only way to access it is through the neighbors property, and it's a walking path.

[7:23] I say it's similar to something like that.

[7:28] And then also the grade.

[7:30] The property in general, I believe he wrote on the whole property moderate to street grades, which I never thought were entirely accurate.

[7:38] Some of it is moderate or, oh, he said, gentle to moderate grades and the listeners card for our property, and I would say, right around the house side, that is true.

[7:46] But as you get away from the house side, it up into the woods where this piece of land is located, it goes moderate to street grades.

[7:52] It's up to side of Valley Mountain, so it's steep.

[7:59] Okay.

[8:04] So yeah, that's-

[8:05] Is there an issue with the house site, grade 1.1?

[8:11] Yes.

[8:12] I don't think the house site grade should be a 1.

[8:15] If you have a 1.1, it says that,

[8:18] if a 1 is average, you're saying it is better than average for the house site that I'm,

[8:24] on that six acres.

[8:25] I'm saying it's below that.

[8:27] I'd say it's around a point six.

[8:29] Because, again, it's on, it's wooded, so it's undeveloped, it's not cleared, it's not,

[8:37] it has no road frontage, so to access it as a six acre parcel, you would have to do it

[8:48] either get a right of way or you're assessing it on foot, and it's also just, it's in the woods and it's

[8:58] I think I'm sorry, one, I didn't write me more accurate from my house, or I live, not for that piece of life.

[9:05] That's what you mean.

[9:06] I agree with that, with that.

[9:08] What is own house site, right?

[9:11] Yeah.

[9:11] Okay.

[9:12] But I was confused whether the point six was for the six acres or the full 10 acres.

[9:17] That's where I was confused.

[9:19] Oh, well, the 10 acres.

[9:21] That's something different.

[9:22] and selling a 10-acre piece, but the four acres

[9:25] that's addition to it are not in current use,

[9:29] so they're not subject to current use penalty,

[9:32] and also the rural status

[9:33] we're supposed to assess it as a separate law.

[9:35] If I were to assess this as a full 10-acre law,

[9:38] I would argue that the house site

[9:40] belongs on the authority excluded from the property.

[9:46] And then there should be no house site on there,

[9:48] But I don't think the law allows you to do that.

[9:52] Then I would just say it's six acres of additional land.

[9:57] So if we have to assess it as a separate property, then that's what it is.

[10:05] But it's Eric, but it can't be assessed as a separate parcel at this point, right?

[10:13] Why not?

[10:15] I'm sorry, I just, the six acres of land that is being withdrawn from current use is the only thing that we're considering right now.

[10:25] Not the whole chain acre lot that he's selling, we're just considering the six acres of land that's being withdrawn from current use in the value associated with that right

[10:44] and anything else.

[10:50] That's all I have any other questions from you.

[10:56] Well, I'm sorry, I'm confused because you're talking about the neighborhood, you think

[11:04] that a 1.1 is too high for the neighborhood is out.

[11:09] No, I'm saying 1.1, that's my grade.

[11:12] Oh, you're great.

[11:13] Okay, I'm sorry.

[11:14] I'm great.

[11:14] No, all right.

[11:15] My grade.

[11:16] My grade.

[11:17] Okay. The six acres, saying the six acres is an average grade or a above average grade.

[11:25] All right. I'm arguing that. Okay. I go and you're saying, and so at this point, there's no

[11:32] accessibility, like a joy blight going to that. Okay. What is the, what's, what's the land like? Is it wetlands? Is it, it's all forest

[11:47] and it's silly. I'd say it's moderate to steep grades. It starts,

[11:57] you can see the survey that we did.

[12:00] And if you look at it, on the survey, if you look at everything, it's basically everything above the power line on that survey.

[12:09] And you'll see that the grade goes from moderate, then it gets very steep because it's going up the side of valley mountain.

[12:15] Okay, so let's say that you've sold it and it became separate, where is the access point going to be for whoever, whoever, by the,

[12:33] through the pouring for the land, that's the whole point.

[12:36] Yeah, there's no access, it's landlocked.

[12:38] That's separate.

[12:39] Right, so nothing can be landlocked.

[12:43] I mean, you can have access of necessity.

[12:47] But so that's why I'm asking that question, Eric, like, how would someone access that property?

[12:57] Even through.

[12:59] I've effectively, if they sold six acres, I guess you'd have to give them a right away, or you would, if they,

[13:05] you know, walking path, you know, or something of that nature's sold as a woodlot.

[13:12] I'm something. I am, you know, exposure. I'm selling 10 acres, but the four acres that are not in current use, which would be the way that are, you know, you know, there's four acres near the road.

[13:28] Where you're going to put that house side is going to be on that four acres, the six acres where additional land. So, you know,

[13:37] You know, if you were ever to look at it in the assessment and say break it out, say you'd be like, you know, you'd have a two acre house side on that clear area and then another two acres of clear land and then you'd have six acres of woodland on your assessment.

[13:52] But.

[13:52] And I understand if it's challenging because this isn't.

[13:56] Yeah, so.

[13:57] I'm making the argument that you if you have to assess it as a six acre property, but the house side on the six acres, then I say the six acres are not worth that.

[14:06] So, I'm assuming that none of this has been perked.

[14:12] None of this is perked.

[14:13] Okay.

[14:14] All right.

[14:18] What are your thoughts?

[14:19] I mean, you understand land.

[14:23] So, what are your thoughts about that happening?

[14:30] If someone was going to perke it,

[14:33] I also, um, if you sell it, are you going to put restrictions, um, that it is just a walking path?

[14:42] I mean, is there anything else going on that, that we don't know?

[14:47] Oh, any other restrictions on the land?

[14:49] No, I don't put the guy up any other restrictions on the land.

[14:52] Any evidence saying, and tend to put in, um, I don't, I'm not a soil scientist.

[14:57] And I, you know, I'm not going to say that I know that, you know, whether or not something.

[15:00] I think it's probably more, it's most likely that they'll use the mounting system to put in some property.

[15:24] All right.

[15:26] Is there anything else that no one has asked you that you can think of that else that I can think of thanks guys appreciate time.

[15:36] Thank you. I appreciate your time as well, Eric. Okay, I mean, so we are going to close the meeting.

[15:47] Nine fifty four and we'll sign up and we'll deliver it and again we'll get back to you and Eric is it okay if I just send the thing I'll just the I'll send

[15:59] that our deliberations just regular male,

[16:03] rather than registered,

[16:04] that's probably just emailing to you.

[16:06] That's probably fine, right?

[16:08] Okay, thank you.

[16:10] Thank you.

[16:10] All right, thanks.

[16:11] Thank you.

[16:11] You're gonna stay on, right, Chris?

[16:13] Yes.

[16:14] Okay, and I'm gonna tell everybody

[16:15] that they've got to be a moose out,

[16:17] so we can deliberate.

[16:20] Thank you.

[16:21] Okay, I'm going to stop the recording.

[16:29] Okay.

[16:36] Yes.

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