[0:09] 11, select board meeting. I'd like to just take a roll call of our members. We'll start at the side.

[0:15] Jim and Kyra here.

[0:16] Jacob, do you hear?

[0:17] Molly and Sally.

[0:18] Jeremy and Frank West, so I'll see you in all, for the all folks present.

[0:23] You can kind of join me in the pledge of allegiance.

[0:31] Estates of America.

[0:32] And to do the republic of allegiance to say it's one nation.

[0:36] And to do it in a visible liberty to justice.

[0:45] Okay, thank you very much.

[0:47] First thing we have is to review and sign payroll and bills payable war inside of session.

[0:52] Is there a motion?

[0:54] It's the most.

[0:55] It's to get a war in 0 second.

[0:57] Mr. Lammer.

[0:58] Is there any discussion?

[1:00] All the favor?

[1:03] Okay.

[1:04] Appointments.

[1:05] Our one and only appointments today is the reorganization of the board.

[1:09] Traditionally, the meeting after the town meeting, we've selected you chair,

[1:14] or maybe get a coverage here, but to take nominations from the floor, and I guess we'll do

[1:20] a, we'll get all nominations, and then we'll take a nomination just and then vote on it.

[1:26] What's that?

[1:26] I mean, we have a nomination that you have to vote on it, and then there's things to be

[1:30] such good nomination you got.

[1:32] Okay.

[1:33] Is there a nomination from the floor?

[1:35] I'd like to nominate Kevin Cairo.

[1:37] Okay.

[1:38] Is there a second for that nominee?

[1:42] That was going to be my, but anyhow, is there a discussion?

[1:48] Oh, Kevin, you said you'd accept a position.

[1:50] So with that said, all in favor?

[1:54] In Kevin, why don't we swap seats?

[2:23] Thank you.

[2:24] Thank you all for that vote of confidence.

[2:29] All right.

[2:29] Let's get to communications.

[2:32] Thank you Mr. Chair.

[2:35] So the first communication.

[2:37] This is just to provide this to the Board officially.

[2:42] This is the request for information on our five for the renovation and lease of the

[2:45] Results Senior Center.

[2:47] This was just shortly before tab meeting.

[2:51] Proposals are due on May the 22nd.

[2:54] There is a pre-submission site meeting.

[2:57] This Thursday at 2 o'clock PM, for its registration and required.

[3:00] We already have at least one NC registered.

[3:07] The substance of it indicates the building that we are looking to have renovated and

[3:15] then subsequently least.

[3:17] That's the forward discussed.

[3:19] So we want to hear.

[3:20] I'm glad to answer any questions for the board.

[3:28] I just want to just because I've heard confusion and I just want to clear it up that if we end up

[3:35] leasing this to somebody, they will be 100% responsible for any renovations.

[3:41] Sure, that's a very good question and for this RFI, the request from the respondents is that they do

[3:50] In fact, do the work, the come with a proposal to do the reconstruction of the building

[4:00] ourselves.

[4:02] Thank you.

[4:03] Do the chair?

[4:08] Yes.

[4:09] Who chair?

[4:11] This is to bring everything up to the court, correct?

[4:15] Yeah.

[4:16] I can play the building.

[4:17] They would need to bring everything up to code for occupancy.

[4:20] And that would be, obviously, discussion that they would need to have with.

[4:25] They're code expert, and then the building instructor regarding those things generally speaking.

[4:34] I think the reuse committee have put together a list of things that they believe it needs to be done,

[4:39] but one of the reasons I'm grabbing a walk through is so that folks can go through and see if there's anything else that's happening.

[4:44] Yeah, this is a little bit of a leases in here at the market rate,

[4:48] So that would be partying is very minimal with dozens of people.

[4:54] Yeah, partying, partying, yeah, yeah.

[4:58] You mentioned one confirmed visitor for the site visit,

[5:02] but can you see how many people have looked at it,

[5:04] or might be interested, have some doubt in anything?

[5:07] I have doubt in love with it.

[5:08] Yeah, I don't have that.

[5:09] I just hear it from that out.

[5:11] I don't have doubt in love with it though.

[5:14] The RFI.

[5:15] Don't count me, because I want to see what I'm talking about.

[5:17] If you don't load it, then that counts as one.

[5:24] I'm just through you to this time manager.

[5:27] Now there were elements of the building that were taken out.

[5:31] For example, a lot of the air conditioning units that

[5:36] believe the heating system, the kitchen were taken out.

[5:40] I don't know what else has been removed.

[5:43] Would you be asking the prospective tenant to remove items

[5:46] that we had taken to replace with their cost, items that we, the town, took out.

[5:53] Is that how they wanted to use the building so that when you have to

[5:55] them make an determination, it's not that they wanted to use the structure.

[5:59] So, for instance, it's possible that we could have someone who comes in and wants to use it for cold storage.

[6:07] I doubt it, it's possible that they would have different requirements for

[6:11] code requirements that, to me, then say, similar to use as an active building.

[6:16] And town meeting deal, special time meeting did approve 650,000

[6:22] towards renovations of the building to bring it up to code,

[6:25] so that it could be theoretically inside of being used for some other entity,

[6:30] with that 650,000 coming to play.

[6:32] So that's not a part of the board requested the RFI,

[6:38] the request for the RFI was that all the construction

[6:40] you've done at the cost of the applicant,

[6:45] I suppose there's no result out of this, we could

[6:47] revisit what the next step should be and obviously that money is still existed in that one.

[6:52] Right, because that's in the comfort right now. You've got to warn our clients. It's great.

[6:57] Okay, and then there's zoning issues as well.

[7:00] Yeah, so we provide them the existing structure and the uses, we talk about the fact that

[7:10] associated with the R20 zoning district, the place limits on the use of that zoning change.

[7:16] The site has access to public water, access to electricity, natural gas,

[7:20] the natural gas connected to the sewer.

[7:22] We talk about the building condition that is still not currently co-compliant.

[7:28] No, it's part of the RFI.

[7:30] We attached links to all of the documentation that's been created about this, the previous committee's assessment on it, the estimates that came, any document that we had on this building.

[7:46] We linked in the back of the RFI, so that somebody would be walking and open dies.

[7:50] That's what I think there was a video. That's part of the Senior Center project of the building, so we included that.

[7:58] I'd be carrying it, because things wouldn't happen, but this was a good one like at that time.

[8:02] And through you, Mr. Chair, one final comment on it.

[8:05] I did want to remind everyone that we did have the recreation committee that had talked about using part of it,

[8:14] and you did several commissions, for example, the Cultural Center, the former Arts Council,

[8:20] and also the Historical Commission.

[8:21] And there was usage for time use for storage for the items at town hall.

[8:31] There was bulk storage for items at town hall.

[8:34] So those are other uses that the town came up within various formats.

[8:41] So just wanted to remind everyone of that.

[8:44] So we do have potential other uses.

[8:47] If this should not go through or somebody says, hey,

[8:50] I'd like to use part of the building, but dedicate part of it for town use as be it, another organization, town organization, or storage, or whatever, and we'd have to come up with probably a, I guess, a price that was going to be a combined town slash private use.

[9:13] I don't think that I don't know if that came out of the RFI, that's obviously something

[9:18] we would have to discuss as a board and then that would be another step and we'd have

[9:25] to take it that's that complicated although we'd probably just look at Squarefoot and

[9:30] to figure out what the market right is and we wanted to have to look at market

[9:38] right

[9:38] at handle that but it's certainly something I mean the idea is right now we're looking

[9:42] I think we're waiting for somebody to kind of wait for it.

[9:44] And then we can evaluate this point and it's a great event.

[9:47] That's all I was going to say, Mr. Chair.

[9:49] I think we'll put in the car before the horse here.

[9:51] I think we need to get to this RF.

[9:54] I don't just see where it lands before we go to next steps.

[10:00] Thank you, sir.

[10:02] OK, two board two concerns.

[10:04] That way, I think we still have a letter from Paul Steadman.

[10:09] OK.

[10:10] Yep, is it?

[10:11] Just as a notice, we have Mr. Chair, we have a letter from Paul Sedvin regarding the mass

[10:17] dot and the structure of the documents for the re-detractor of release 38, have been completed

[10:24] and letting it so the project has completed eight or September 13, 2031, so it's hard to believe

[10:34] that the project is starting now.

[10:35] We're going to be saying that's 2030s, but that's where we are, so I decided to provide

[10:42] I just want to do a call out for people watching that it does say once they have a notice

[10:47] to proceed there will be a pre-construction meeting to be scheduled and the community will be invited.

[10:53] But they don't say when they think the notice to proceed would be, do we have any idea?

[10:58] I don't know yet.

[11:10] where there could have been small in the procurement process.

[11:16] Hopefully it will be a quick way, and then we'll get in

[11:19] those pretty quickly, but you never can't tell.

[11:21] Things are a little bit wacky in the construction world right now.

[11:31] Okay.

[11:32] Now, we're on top.

[11:33] We're on top.

[11:36] Number six, as a board to get to the issue,

[11:38] you're sending entertainment license to cushions,

[11:40] you can use it in conjunction with the fourth

[11:43] July celebration. So, structure aware, because you need to provide the carnival for

[11:48] the Fourth, and this is a request for June the 28th, by 26th, for June the 10th,

[11:57] 30 to have a carnival for that Fourth, part of the Fourth celebration.

[12:08] I'm making a motion to approve.

[12:11] Seconded by.

[12:12] Just a silly seconded by Mr. DePama.

[12:16] Just a discussion.

[12:17] Is there going to be a fee charge to the Fourth of the Committee?

[12:21] I know this is a fee schedule.

[12:22] That enough. There was a.

[12:23] Of course, not a fee.

[12:24] You tried to fee in the Fourth.

[12:26] I think.

[12:27] I think.

[12:27] You got paid out.

[12:28] You got paid out.

[12:29] You got paid out.

[12:36] Yeah, okay. I saw about there. I saw about the fees. It was $2 as a five dollars. I didn't know what where they fought for me

[12:44] So they yeah, they followed me $2 for the $2 special hours

[12:48] Okay, so we're rollin in the dough for the steampout roll. It sounds good

[12:55] Okay, is this why wasn't this taken up before I mean they have like four days of the carnival, right? Is this an extra day?

[13:04] Thank you.

[13:04] No.

[13:05] This is special.

[13:09] Okay.

[13:11] Any other discussion?

[13:13] All of favor?

[13:15] Excuse me, please.

[13:18] Mr. Chair Board.

[13:19] To consider number seven, I request from Christine Reedy for the Williams Department's

[13:24] Market to use Town Commons, entirety on Sunday, August 2, August 16, October 4.

[13:30] So we have a request from Farmer's Market.

[13:36] Is there no conflict on those two kilos a day?

[13:40] No, we don't.

[13:42] So these are our first special events.

[13:47] And the kids day on August 2nd,

[13:49] Wildcat Neat on the 16th and Harvest Stats on October 4th.

[13:52] Mr. Oaks, I see some of you.

[13:56] Yep, Christina Riedy, 31-Gline Road,

[13:59] and then the Vice President of the Farmers Market Board.

[14:02] Yeah, so we have those three events.

[14:04] We normally have the common between 10 and 1.

[14:07] The only thing that I didn't include in the request

[14:09] is that I'm not October 4th, it would be until 3 p.m.

[14:19] So the other two days, October 1.

[14:21] Just the regular one, October 4th, October 4th, okay?

[14:24] Del free, until 3 p.m.

[14:25] Very p.

[14:31] Oh, my God.

[14:31] Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve with 3 p.m. on October 4th.

[14:36] Okay, is a motion by a sort of a gear-wise.

[14:39] I'm going to go by a sort of a comment.

[14:41] Any other discussion?

[14:44] All in favor?

[14:46] Well, you know this.

[14:47] Okay. Thank you.

[14:50] It was chair.

[14:51] 14th Senator number eight.

[14:53] 14th Senator.

[14:54] What is it?

[14:55] The city coffee.

[14:57] That's a member of the Wellington Cultural Council.

[14:59] Return expired.

[15:00] Local 30 of 28.

[15:02] Okay, is there a motion?

[15:04] So who?

[15:06] Second.

[15:07] Mr. Sally.

[15:10] Any discussion?

[15:12] All in favor?

[15:14] That was.

[15:18] That was.

[15:21] All right.

[15:22] Public comments.

[15:23] And those public comments is done at the end.

[15:25] Now before the last meeting was at the beginning.

[15:28] Now we're flipping back to the end.

[15:29] And then Mr. Weston was sad that there was a new chair with a change, but that chair made that change.

[15:36] I didn't know the members will have to let me know what they're like best, the beginning of the end.

[15:42] Well that's why I put it at the beginning of the last meeting just to give a kind of a light agenda.

[15:46] I think it would be a sample.

[15:49] Sure.

[15:49] Well since we're talking about it, I do further beginning.

[15:52] So I prefer the beginning?

[15:53] Yeah, before we go.

[15:55] I just don't.

[15:56] Yeah.

[15:56] of a preference?

[15:58] Well, it's nice to be able to have a discussion, I mean, I know we were talking several

[16:02] things that we were kind of very North topic, we probably should have a new business, but

[16:06] my opinion would be, as I said, if you want to do it at the beginning, but in the same

[16:09] token, I know people talked about either having discussion if any of these articles warranted

[16:15] discussion, or having it at the end also, because if somebody says, hey, I like the way

[16:21] you voted on such and such, or I didn't like the way you voted on such and such.

[16:28] I disagree, I disagree with that, I believe that discussions should come prior to so that everyone's voice can be heard before we vote.

[16:41] And then we can move on.

[16:43] Thank you.

[16:44] I think I'd be further at the beginning too, but I think anything further I think we should hold off and just go back to the policies and procedures that are being ruled on and just kind of table before the discussion which, you know, because I agree with Mr. West that there's a lot to be discussed, you know, and

[17:04] comments here, there or whatever, but I think just now if we want to make a decision on that,

[17:09] you know, it's at the chair's discretion, and then we just hold off on any of the changes

[17:13] until we kind of get the, the follow-up.

[17:17] So, yeah, I just want the lay of the plans to want to speak as to where you prefer a public

[17:22] comments and how it will begin, but you'll have to understand that appointments won't be able

[17:29] to start right at seven o'clock.

[17:30] So if we're going to have public comments in seven o'clock, then it's going to be for a particular time period, and then we'll start appointments after.

[17:40] So public comments could run from, we could make it on the agenda from 7 to 15 with appointments to follow, so that people will be aware that they have a 15 minute opportunity for public comments.

[17:53] And if we find that it goes over, certainly we will a lot stop anybody from their comments.

[18:03] Okay.

[18:04] So to the audience, public comments.

[18:08] Good evening.

[18:09] I'll make it quick.

[18:10] I know you guys want to get out of here by 730.

[18:12] We're up to Suelo, 28 majori road, Missacara, congratulations.

[18:17] I'd hope that in your new position here, you'll extend an all over the branch of the people.

[18:22] and maybe stop post and packets for the public to see prior to the meetings.

[18:26] I'd appreciate that and I know much of the public would.

[18:29] Second thing is, I don't want to speak for the two other petitioners for the special time meeting,

[18:36] but since I'm here, I'm going to make a comment on it.

[18:39] The whole spirit of the 650,000 was to bring that building to a level playing field where all of the entities would have had an equal opportunity for that building.

[18:52] Right now, I'm just going to throw WCTV maybe under the bus.

[18:56] Do they have the money to revamp that building and make it viable to them?

[19:03] I certainly know that the historical commission doesn't have that kind of money to do that type

[19:06] of renovation, and I know she was the last week saying that they wanted it.

[19:12] So that's 615,000, as far as me being one and third of the petitioners, was to bring that

[19:17] to a level playing field for whoever wanted it.

[19:20] And I would hope that it gets to the point

[19:22] that you guys can recognize that

[19:24] and use that money for what it was designed for.

[19:28] And now for the reason I'm here,

[19:30] I'm gonna ask you Mr. Chairman in your new position.

[19:33] If you can take a look at

[19:36] possible looming problem that Wilmington might have

[19:39] and maybe put it on a agenda for a coming meeting,

[19:43] we have a serious issue throughout New England.

[19:47] data centers and data centers need to be dealt with our by-laws currently allow data centers in

[19:56] the industrial areas. Now I don't know that there's anything in particular that's been proposed,

[20:04] but I sat here a few meetings ago and I learned we all learned that writing light just increased

[20:10] the ability to bring live more capacity into Wilmington. We also know about the battery center and

[20:17] it looks very, battery centers like they're doing it

[20:20] and it looks very, are usually attached to a data center.

[20:24] Now I know that this evids some talk about

[20:26] low and this bit of moratorium put on data centers.

[20:30] I think it would be who you guys to get ahead of things

[20:34] and maybe go out of the time manager

[20:36] to have the planning board draft up some prohibitions

[20:41] for data centers.

[20:43] I don't want to go into too much of the detail with you guys

[20:46] and keep you here longer, but we know the water usage

[20:48] is astronomical in these data centers.

[20:51] Electricity bills around the data center areas

[20:53] are skyrocketing.

[20:55] We're worried about folks being able to live

[20:58] in Wellington and stay in Wellington.

[21:01] We can jump on this today, get the planning board to fix

[21:06] the wording on the zoning, to prohibit them

[21:09] at least for now, if at some point in the future,

[21:12] they want to, they come up with more technology that's not going to affect the public the way that

[21:18] currently the data centers are, it can be re-looked at, but right now they're allowed.

[21:25] We cannot not look at the environmental impacts and the financial impacts.

[21:31] So I would ask you guys to please start looking at these and sooner than later,

[21:35] make some action banning them from looming to temporarily.

[21:41] Thank you.

[21:42] Thank you.

[21:45] Anyone

[21:49] else?

[21:51] Announcements?

[21:52] Are there any announcements?

[21:55] Just, well, one thing I'd like to mention is that both Mr. Slegal and I went to the Good Guy Award,

[22:02] and the two people that were awarded the Good Guy for 2026,

[22:06] where John Wallace and Robert Theodos, and I think many people know their spirit of

[22:12] There's a lot of terrorism and they've been doing that for many, many years and I think they were a great candidate for that award and it was a great time at the night, so just well deserved recognition for two people.

[22:30] That really deserve recognition that they don't really ask for it.

[22:35] It's just a good time on that.

[22:39] Very nice. Thank you.

[22:41] Hey, what else?

[22:48] Announcements, that's it, new business, anybody with new business?

[22:54] Yes.

[22:55] One thing that we can possibly have as an agenda item coming up would be I would think that if we could

[23:00] have the members of the police come in, and now that we're getting into the whole, almost

[23:05] schools out, we have these electronic bikes, and we brought them in last year, late in the

[23:11] sea, but it'd be nice to just kind of give a rules of the road so to speak as far as these

[23:18] e-bikes and speed limits, and do they wear helmets, do they register, and things like that,

[23:24] just quickly have the land before we start getting in and did it in that season, which we're

[23:28] with the weather today, it's probably already there.

[23:33] I look at the stage work on a couple of proposals right now, too,

[23:36] that I read about it, too.

[23:37] So you can probably update us on that.

[23:39] Yes, good idea.

[23:42] And just want to make mention,

[23:46] with a long time camera man,

[23:50] an individual who is always here

[23:52] at every select board meeting that I could remember way back,

[23:56] known as Ron Ronald Bucieri passed away, a long time cameraman, 78 years old, just a wonderful

[24:09] person he was here all the time. And I think we should give a moment of silence.

[24:24] Thank you.

[24:27] on to anything else for the business, on to important dates.

[24:33] Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[24:35] Important dates.

[24:36] So coming up later on this week, we have on May 15th,

[24:40] the Special Olympics Unified Games.

[24:42] It will be the High School of Telecom.

[24:44] Both by itself and the Assistant Manager will be there.

[24:48] And so hopefully everybody who's available can come out and support our kids,

[24:51] the Special Olympics Unified Games.

[24:54] On May 23rd, we're going to have the Declaration of Graves

[24:56] Wildwood Cemetery at 8 o'clock AM, followed by the Declaration of Park Square's

[25:00] Monuments.

[25:02] On May 24th, there's the Rededication of Park Square's

[25:04] Monuments.

[25:06] We have the least memorial at the Hall of Safety Building at

[25:08] 1 o'clock PM.

[25:10] The Royal Shrine and take Thomas Villanova at 115 p.m., and the Veterans of

[25:15] Onions at 10 o'clock and 113 p.m., and then on May 25th, the

[25:20] Royal Day.

[25:20] We have our annual Royal Day parade at 10 o'clock AM, followed by the

[25:26] the World Day ceremony at the Wildwood Cemetery, the veteran slot in the 11 o'clock year.

[25:32] On that day, 10 officers are closed for the holiday, and then on May 26th, that Tuesday

[25:37] will be having an excellent board meeting here in 10 at Hall at the here in the 7 o'clock

[25:43] PM.

[25:44] And then on the 27th, we will be having a community forum for the Northwest Wellington Fire

[25:51] substation here at town hall and the great room at 630 p.m. May 31st. We'll be

[25:58] Wilwind's in high school graduation. So congratulations to all the seniors and

[26:04] July 6th. There'll be a fishing derby at town beach at Silver Lake at 730 a.m.

[26:11] July 7th through October 4th the farmers market will be on June 2nd.

[26:15] June, sorry, June, June, June, June, June, June, June, June, June, June, June, June, June,

[26:20] June, June, September, June, September 4th for the farmer's market, I'll bring in the

[26:24] downcoming from 10 o'clock a.m. to 1 o'clock p.m. Then June 8th, we have an, I'm just like,

[26:29] board meeting here and well, I was 10 o'clock, no, I don't think it's going to be a 10 o'clock,

[26:35] that's going to be here. That's going to be here. Let's move that right now. We'll move that

[26:41] to the Newtown Hall.

[26:44] June 11th, the Sharshing Tech Regulation,

[26:48] June 10th, and brush shop off at Old Bay Street,

[26:50] for Maniflok A.M. to Klot PM.

[26:52] Then June 13th, we have a time like the Artsale

[26:54] from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m., also June 13th,

[26:58] we have brush shop off at Old Bay Street from 9 to 4.

[27:01] And on June 13th, the Midman headquarters

[27:03] will be holding the flag retirement ceremony in 1.30 p.m.

[27:06] Those are your important dates, Mr. Chair.

[27:08] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[27:10] So, Luke's service, Luke's service goes out to Harold Kackenbergis, SP4 Harold Kackenbergis,

[27:22] U.S. Army by January 27, 1945, and some of them has chooses.

[27:28] Lived in Medford mass chooses when he entered service on August 1968 from Boston mass chooses.

[27:36] served as an accounting specialist, served with the 855th General Support Company U.S.A.R.V.,

[27:47] which is the logistics unit within the United States Army.

[27:51] Primarily tasked with providing critical supply, transportation and maintenance support to operational forces.

[27:59] Separated from service on May 4, 1974, from St. Louis, from Fort Louis, Washington, awarded the National Defense Service Medal,

[28:14] Myxman ship badge M14, expert badge M16, Vietnam service medal, Vietnam campaign medal,

[28:25] and two overseas bars. Currently he resides in Wilmington with his spouse, La Rinda,

[28:32] and we want to thank Harold for his service to the United States. Thank you.

[28:40] So that includes the meeting, guys, thanks for coming.

[28:45] As far as I was to chair.

[28:48] Yeah.

[28:48] I'd like to make a motion for you, sir.

[28:50] Second.

[28:51] A motion by slightly defama, second by slightly gear work to adjourn.

[28:57] Any discussion?

[28:58] Well, this be the mode for the rest of the...

[29:01] Yeah.

[29:02] That's also.

[29:03] I have to never be this.

[29:05] All in favour?

[29:07] Good night everyone.

[29:09] Good night.

Select Board Meeting - May 11th, 2026

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