July 28, 2026 Stormwater Meeting (no video for 4 minutes)

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[0:00] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the
[0:03] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:08] justice for all.
[0:18] » Can I get a roll call? >> Mr. Tim Clayton.
[0:21] » Present. >> Mr. John Gerwinski.
[0:22] » Here. >> Ms. Amy Blake.
[0:24] » Here. >> Mr. Nick Bellone.
[0:26] » Here. >> Mr. Tony Clark.
[0:27] » Here. >> Mr. Michael Duffy.
[0:29] » Here. >> Mr. David Austin.
[0:31] » Present. >> And I am Michael Mambers. Good evening.
[0:34] » Good evening. Um
[0:37] Let's see. We have a public comment for agenda items. Anybody wishing to speak?
[0:41] » Yes. >> Step on up to the mic. Name and address
[0:45] for the record, and speak away.
[0:49] » I haven't had practice. >> All right.
[0:52] » Kim Lantee, uh 11204 Putnam Drive.
[0:57] Wednesday, June 24th, in the evening, we had a major
[1:02] uh rainstorm. >> Mhm.
[1:03] » And the south end of our street uh completely flooded up to the garage.
[1:12] People's actual garages. Um the school the preschool that's there was also
[1:18] flooded, and water was coming from there.
[1:20] The sewer was not draining. It was not plugged. And um I think six houses on
[1:25] that end uh were affected. Couldn't get into their their homes
[1:31] uh safely. So, um and I that's the second time that's
[1:36] happened. I 2 years ago, that happened also, and someone's car ended up being
[1:41] totaled because it was parked in that area
[1:45] where it flooded. Um and then the water actually
[1:50] drained like all of a sudden, like somebody turned a pump on, and
[1:54] and uh vortexed it it down. So, I just wanted to raise this as an issue.
[2:01] I don't know if it can be looked into or what the issue is.
[2:04] » can look into it, for sure. >> So.
[2:07] » Okay, I just had a question real quick. >> Yes.
[2:10] I do we have video also? >> Yeah, I got a guy.
[2:14] » So, that would be your personal property?
[2:16] » Uh, this is mine and it was down here.
[2:21] » down at the south end of the world. >> end. Yes.
[2:23] » In the back? >> Yeah, it was uh uh over the front here.
[2:25] So, >> Okay, so all around the property?
[2:27] » All this was flooded. Water was coming down from there.
[2:30] » Okay. Thank you. >> All right, thank you.
[2:32] » That's the guy that'll be able to look into it.
[2:34] » Got it? >> So, yeah, we're good. We'll look into it
[2:36] and we'll figure this out for you. >> All right.
[2:38] » Okay, thank you.
[2:43] Um, there are no citizens requesting placement on the agenda and then we have
[2:48] minutes to be approved. Hopefully you had time to review and I'll take a
[2:51] motion on the storm water board meeting minutes from June 23rd.
[2:55] » Uh, Mr. President, I was not here, so I will be abstaining from any voting on
[2:59] this. >> I make a motion to approve the storm
[3:02] water board minutes from June 23rd, 2026.
[3:06] » I'll second it. All those in favor?
[3:10] » Aye. >> And John abstains.
[3:17] All right. Uh, staff reports. Tony.
[3:21] » That's good evening. >> Good evening.
[3:23] » Um, I am looking to do a project out at the
[3:27] at the public works. Um, scope of the project is needed to
[3:30] capture a storm water from the new street department building and the
[3:34] properties to the east and south. The water will be conveyed into ditches
[3:37] and swales, which will be excavated during construction.
[3:41] We are looking to pave around the building and the driveway going to 112th
[3:45] uh, to eliminate and keep manageable from dirt, dust, and maintenance.
[3:51] First of all, we'll go with the ditch on the south side of the building
[3:54] will be constructed first, approximately 460 ft long by 3 ft wide.
[3:58] Uh storm water from the downspouts of the
[4:01] street department will be done as follows.
[4:04] Um we're going to try to capture the water
[4:07] coming off the roof and getting it into its system so it doesn't get in front of
[4:10] everything. South side of the building will be will
[4:13] be piped directly to the ditch at the downspout locations using an 8-in SDR 26
[4:18] heavy wall pipe. North side of the building will have
[4:23] the downspouts tied into 10-in SDR 26 pipe that runs from the west end of the
[4:27] building to the east side of of the building
[4:30] with an open grade structure and it includes a 1-ft
[4:32] sump to collect sediment before heading northeast uh to the existing culvert
[4:37] going to Deer Creek ditch. The piping running northeast will be a
[4:41] 12-in C900 DR 18 to accommodate heavy loads in that area.
[4:47] Um and then the paving we are looking to pave from the garage doors, garage door
[4:53] approaches, 30 ft to the south and north sides of the building and 60 ft on the
[4:58] east side of the building to accommodate a parking lot.
[5:02] Paving on the north and south sides will be having 2% slope away from the
[5:05] building runoff. Remainder of the paving will include
[5:09] paving around the salt barn and the driveway going from 112 all the way down
[5:13] to the salt barn area. Paving contractor is responsible for
[5:16] grading the site prior to asphalting. Um
[5:21] so the next page shows you a couple of proposals that I got
[5:25] uh for the piping and ditch work. Piping ditch work and swale LGS Plumbing
[5:30] came in at $78,836. Um
[5:35] and the and the price per board for for storm
[5:38] water would be $26,280. Um
[5:42] H2O Plumbing came in at $75,000. That brings us to the price per board at
[5:46] $25,000. Uh Prowse for paving site services
[5:51] $225,138. Price per board $75,046.
[5:57] And American Paving came in um with a price per board of the storm
[6:02] at $35,268. Um
[6:07] My recommendation is as following. H2 Plumbing for the piping and the ditch
[6:11] work in the amount of $75,000. American Paving in
[6:15] uh for the paving at $105,800. Total
[6:19] uh project cost $180,800. Um the sewer board portion $60,266.67.
[6:26] Storm water board portion will be $60,266.67.
[6:30] And the town council will be $2,060,266.66.
[6:35] You can add them up. Any questions?
[6:38] » Uh I The only question I have is I don't
[6:40] know if our engineers looked at this. Is this paving for it is the asphalt going
[6:43] to be adequate for this heavy load trucking? Mike, do you know?
[6:47] » I've not looked at the proposal, but I we have we should
[6:51] » That That's my concern. Two and a half inches of binder and an inch and a half
[6:53] of surface. I just don't know if that's enough for these trucks.
[6:55] » It'll depend on a lot of It'll depend on what the stone base is that's existing
[7:00] underneath it. Uh that that would be consistent with
[7:03] our our road profile, but we don't know what the stone stuff would
[7:08] be under. >> And like I said, the heavy loading is my
[7:10] concern. I just I just My My thing would be have them look at it. Just make sure
[7:13] that we're getting what we pay for and not redoing this in a few years. That's
[7:17] just me though. >> I I'm sorry. I didn't hear what you
[7:18] » I'm just saying I would rather have our engineer look and make sure that what
[7:21] they're proposing this four inches of pavement is adequate and the base is
[7:24] adequate. I just don't want to do it and then have to band-aid it again
[7:27] and again. >> Yeah.
[7:28] » That's my only comment. So. >> Well, yeah. So, I mean, just just so you
[7:31] know, the base is pretty solid. I mean, we've had
[7:34] 25 26 ton salt trucks coming in and out of there for years. We've had no issues
[7:38] with any anything sinking or you know, or or
[7:43] anything out of that nature, they've held up really well. Um
[7:46] and then in you know, where the back of the property where there was uh
[7:51] some bad soils, we dug it all the way down to the clay,
[7:54] approximately almost 3 ft down, and we filled it with grindings, layered
[7:59] we layered it 6 in at a time, compacted it, filled it up to where we needed it
[8:03] to be, and we have our tandem and everything driving across it.
[8:07] Nothing has nothing has gone down, nothing has sank.
[8:10] No ruts, no nothing. So, I I think that we have a pretty decent base out there.
[8:13] If somebody wants to look at it, I have no problem with that.
[8:18] » But that's my only concern. >> I know there's a time time sensitive on
[8:22] it. Is there something that you guys can get out there and take a look at it uh
[8:25] relatively quickly? >> I wouldn't see any reason not to,
[8:28] you know, move this forward and I I would imagine Tony, the way I read the
[8:32] the proposal briefly, I just read it real quick, they put money in there for
[8:37] uh an allowance that you could order extra
[8:40] stone if we needed it if if there was a problem. So, I think that that would be
[8:45] similar to any other road project. If if we discover a problem, they just change
[8:49] order in a couple tons of stone and we move on.
[8:57] » So, your ask is pretty much similar to what the
[9:02] sewer board? >> Yep.
[9:06] » So, that would be on contingent of approval of all boards.
[9:11] Is that about right what I hear what I heard?
[9:14] » It It was a $60,000 number. >> Yeah. Yeah, the $60,000 266.67
[9:20] cents. >> Yes.
[9:22] » And then contingent on approval of all three boards.
[9:27] » If you wanted to. >> Sewer board chose to make it contingent,
[9:30] you can if you like. >> All right.
[9:33] I don't see need. I think that
[9:37] a straight up is this is what one of the things that we
[9:41] do is we're facing a new drainage.
[9:45] But
[9:48] I can entertain a motion if anybody is ready to do so.
[9:55] » I'll I'll make a motion that we um contract H2O Plumbing for the piping and
[10:02] ditch work in the amount of $75,000 and our portion of altogether $75,000
[10:08] for H2O Plumbing, American Paving for $105,800.
[10:11] Total project $180,800 and this this board's portion would be
[10:15] $60,266.67.
[10:21] » Second. >> All right.
[10:23] » Motion by John, second by Amy. Any discussion?
[10:28] Hearing none, all those in favor? >> Aye.
[10:30] » Aye.
[10:32] » All right.
[10:35] I have a quick question for you. >> Sir.
[10:37] » Um we had talked at previous meetings about getting out to 103rd.
[10:42] Um any movement on that to get that jetted?
[10:47] Get that jetted and or scooped out. I don't know if they cleared out the brush
[10:50] the brush that was there. >> I've been having some health issues last
[10:52] this last month. So I haven't been able to get out there to take a look at it. I
[10:56] mean we got out there with the uh tire that we mowed everything down around the
[10:59] front of it that you see. Um so now that uh
[11:04] you know, depending on this last rain that we had, I don't know how much
[11:06] water's flowing through there but you know, we had talked about doing some
[11:10] sort of a damming system in front of it so we can
[11:13] try to clean it out. You know, we're going to put a camera
[11:16] down there to see what it looks like at least.
[11:18] » Okay. >> Just with the
[11:20] that thing's got to be what, 12 ft lower than the road level?
[11:24] » Uh at the lowest point I would say I'd say about 10 to 12 ft, yeah.
[11:27] » Yeah, so we just I want to get in there with a camera.
[11:30] » Okay. >> Run the camera down there.
[11:32] Um see what it looks like. You know, we have to have the water levels low.
[11:36] Okay. It would have been last week. >> All right.
[11:40] » So, I'm on that. >> Okay.
[11:43] I just want to keep it on keep it on the radar so we can get that
[11:46] take care of it and get another thing scratched off the list. So, excellent.
[11:51] All right. Any other questions for Tony? Hearing none none, let's move on to new
[11:56] business. It's a recommendation to the town
[11:58] council consideration of an interlocal agreement with the Little Calumet River
[12:01] Basin Development Commission for the East 117th Avenue Drainage Improvement
[12:06] and Watershed Study Projects. Nick, you want to talk to me?
[12:10] » We reported on this. I think it was at this board.
[12:14] Could have been at the council. But, we received some
[12:18] funding from the Little Calumet River Basin Development Commission to study
[12:21] drainage on East 117th Avenue primarily between
[12:25] sort of the town borders area and Ben Street. So, that stretch through there.
[12:31] Uh
[12:34] It requires an interlocal agreement with the community.
[12:38] Just wanted to get the Stormwater Board sign off on this. It actually gets
[12:41] executed at the town council, but I thought it made sense for the Stormwater
[12:44] Board to have some involvement on a stormwater board or a stormwater item in
[12:49] town and a known issue that we've had for a long time.
[12:53] » Makes sense. >> The Little Calumet River Basin is
[12:55] picking up 80% of So, 80/20.
[13:00] » And this is again for the
[13:03] the study to see >> Well, they probably remember us looking
[13:08] at this once before. But, we didn't have the means to do much more
[13:13] than what we were able to do.
[13:16] We had applied to the River Basin Commission and
[13:20] we weren't successful at that point. So, we did what we could. We reapplied and
[13:25] they are sponsoring their portion of the study so we can look at a more global
[13:29] solution to that whole area over there. Is the big issue is that pipeline that's
[13:34] running >> Yeah, we got the old railroad and the
[13:36] pipe that goes underneath it and now we've got so much more traffic down
[13:40] there with the schools. And
[13:43] the subdivisions and the 117th has gotten a lot more important in that zone
[13:48] since that time. >> Okay.
[13:50] Um, any ideas how long this will take?
[13:54] » The watershed analysis? >> Yes.
[13:57] » Uh, Frank's already kind of started it. >> Okay. That's fine.
[14:01] » So it shouldn't take an exorbitant amount of time but I would imagine we'll
[14:04] have it done before the end of the year. >> Wonderful. Okay.
[14:09] Any questions? >> No.
[14:11] » All right. Now I'll entertain a motion. >> Um, Mr. President, I'd like to make a
[14:14] favorable recommendation to the town council for consideration of the
[14:17] interlocal agreement with the Little Calumet River Basin Development
[14:20] Commission for East 117th Avenue Drainage Improvement Watershed Study
[14:23] Project. >> Second.
[14:26] » Motion by John, second by Amy. Discussion?
[14:29] Hearing none, all those in favor? >> Aye.
[14:31] » Aye.
[14:33] All right. Treasurer's report. >> Uh, good evening everyone. For your
[14:38] consideration and approval,
[14:41] uh, we have a total of three claims this evening
[14:44] for a grand total of $9,317.55.
[14:53] » I'd like to make a motion to pay the claims for July in the amount of
[14:57] $9,317.55 as presented here.
[15:02] » Second. >> Motion by John, second by Amy. Any
[15:05] discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor?
[15:08] » Aye. >> Aye.
[15:09] » Aye. Uh, next Storm Water Board meeting will
[15:11] be Tuesday, August 25th. I'll entertain a motion.
[15:14] » Motion to adjourn. >> Second.