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That's all for today.
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September meeting of the
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Wood County Board of Supervisors. We
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declare this
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meeting open.
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The secretary is taking
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a roll call. Supervisor
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Rohrbacher
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is still trying to step away
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from the case and is doing so
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remotely. And
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Warden Hamilton is
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absent today for a
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good reason. With
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that in mind, we
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move on, and I
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invite Warden
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Boyd to offer
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prayer. And if
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you wish, please
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remain standing
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for the oath of
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allegiance. Please
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remain standing
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for the oath of
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allegiance.
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Today's prayer
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is entitled Lord,
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bless these
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men and women
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as they carry out their
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tasks of overseeing the
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work of this district
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and providing guidance
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to the people of their
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areas. Help them
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make our court a
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safe
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environment for
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our employees and
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visitors.
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Help us
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keep Wood County a
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safe,
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progressive place
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to live, work, and
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raise our
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children. Lord, in
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Your mercy, we
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ask for Your
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blessing on this
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building and office.
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Amen. Please
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join me in taking the oath of
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allegiance.
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I pledge
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allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of
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America and to the republic for which it
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stands,
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one nation under
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God, indivisible,
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with liberty and
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justice for
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all.
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Thank you very much. The
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first item on the
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agenda is the minutes of the
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previous
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meeting, and I want to
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make a quick statement.
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Apparently, the protocol of the
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UW special commission is incorrect. They
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will fix it at the
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next meeting
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, but with that in mind, I am
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waiting for a motion
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to approve the minutes.
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They will have a
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corrected copy at the
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next meeting
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; a proposal from
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Laikken, supported by
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Galverson. Are there
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any discussions?
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Those who are "in favor" should say
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"yes."
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Yes.
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Who is "against"? So,
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the proposal is accepted.
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Thank you. We have already
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discussed
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today's reasons for
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absence. We have
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no
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dismissal applications. We have
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no assignments or
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reassignments. Are there
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any
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comments from
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the public today?
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Any comments from the
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public? I do
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n't see any of those. So we
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move on to the
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meeting materials
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. We have a special
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agenda
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today from ADRC,
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right after
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the materials are processed. So Mike
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Gray will join
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us at that time. So, are
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you ready with your
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paperwork? The first thing
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here is the referral
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on page four.
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Several of them are already in their
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proper places. I
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know that some
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committees have already
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dealt with some of
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them. Okay,
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moving on,
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pages five through
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seven in your packet
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. This is the September
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1st Operations Committee
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, pages 5
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through 7. Then we'll
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move on to the
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monthly
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comments from the
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County Clerk,
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Carmela. It's on page 9 or
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page 8 and 9, and
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then we go to
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page 10 and 11 for the
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CFO. Pages
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12 through 15 are the
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Human Resources Department. And
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then our
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treasurer's report on
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page 16.
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Health care,
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page 17. Next we
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move to the
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minutes of the
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Health and
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Human Services Committee from
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August 27th, these are pages
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18, 19, and 20. From the 18th to the 20th.
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After that, we
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receive monthly
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reports from the
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departments
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they oversee. The
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Department of Health report
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begins on
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page 21 and continues until the
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28th. From the 21st to the 28th. You
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will have the opportunity
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to familiarize yourself with them.
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And then the Department of
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Social Services,
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starting with
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Director Brewington's report
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, pages 29 through 33
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. From the 29th to the 33rd
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. No questions?
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Okay, moving on to
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protocol C from
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Wednesday, September 2nd. Pages 34, 35
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and 36. Then
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we have various minutes of the
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Golden Sands Resource Conservation District Council,
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starting on
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page 37 and
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ending on page 45.
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Pages 37 to 45. The
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North-
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Central
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Tourism Partnership Committee met on
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August 12. These are pages 46 and 47
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.
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Citizens' Group on
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Water Resources—
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pages 48 and 49. Next
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comes the monthly report
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from UW Extension, which
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begins on
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page 50. And it continues until
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page 54. From the 50th to the
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54th. We also have
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monthly
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staff reports on
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land and water
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resources.
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They start on
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page 55. And they continue
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until page 58. From 55th
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to 58th. Then the
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monthly
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planning and
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zoning report, starting
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with Director
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Gruber's report. This is from pages 59 to 62
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. From the 59th to the
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62nd. I will now give you a
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break from
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looking at these
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pages, as
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we have a resolution, and I
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ask the Secretary
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to read it.
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This is Resolution 26-9-1.
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To approve an amendment
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to the official
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zoning ordinance of the City of
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Saratoga. This will not
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incur any
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costs to Wood County
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.
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Most likely, this will be
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supported by Paradise. Are there
[5:40]
any discussions?
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Okay, if not,
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please vote
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.
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Supervisor Rauser.
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Supervisor Zurflu.
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By.
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Don is here. Can you see if
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I can hear him? Don, I
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turned on your
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microphone. Your voice?
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By.
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Thank you. I'm
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turning you off again. Well, that's
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not legal. I
[6:19]
like it. One
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click. I can't even hear
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you screaming.
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The resolution passed
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17-1, 17-1. You look
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concerned,
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supervisor, is that your
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intention?
[6:40]
No. No, I announced the
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rejection.
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The glasses are clearly visible.
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Do everything before
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Supervisor Bucky
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has his say,
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Jack, 8-8.
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Bucky, Jack B.?
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So I look at the
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other end of the hall.
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Okay, let's move on
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. The Committee on Judiciary and
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Legislative Affairs
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of September 1st on
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pages 68 and 69. Their
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minutes of
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August 31st on pages 66 and 67
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.
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Of course.
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65, 6 and 7. Then the update
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from the APC on child support on
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page 70.
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Secretary's reports on 71.
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Corporate Counsel on
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72.
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Criminal
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Justice Division on
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pages 73 and 74.
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District Attorney's report
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on page 75. The register of
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deeds was on page
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76. And then from the
[7:46]
Victims and
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Witnesses Coordinator, that was on
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pages 77 and 78. Any
[7:53]
questions about any
[7:54]
of that? Okay,
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moving on, the
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Highway Infrastructure and
[8:01]
Recreation Committee, which
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meets on September 3rd,
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starts at 79 and
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goes through 81. 79 to 81.
[8:10]
The minutes of the
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Wood County Wildlife Advisory Committee are on
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pages 82 and 83. And
[8:19]
then we have the
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monthly reports from the
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Highway Department, and that
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starts on
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page 84 and goes
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through 89. 84 to 89. I
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guess. And then the
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Parks and Forestry Department reports
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start at 90 and
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go up to 95. Um, as the
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deputy vice
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chairman, I stopped by
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earlier today, I
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don't know if any
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of you were in Powers Bluff
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over the long
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holiday weekend,
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but Chad, I'm glad you
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came. How many
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participants did you have
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at that
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cycling event?
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Um, there were 1050 riders.
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Wow, yes. So obviously
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we did a very
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good job with this
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project there, it's being
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used well. I
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understand that there was a
[9:00]
huge number of
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spectators, in addition to the
[9:02]
number of people who
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were there. So great
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job. Thank you for that. Once again
[9:05]
, the Department of
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Parks and
[9:08]
Forestry 90-95.
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We have the
[9:12]
Central
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Wisconsin State Fair Board of Directors on pages 96 and 97
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. And then
[9:18]
we have the minutes of the
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South Central Library System Board of Trustees
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on pages 98 and 99. And
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then, as I said
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before, these minutes
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from the reconstruction advisory
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committee
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, they
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will be reviewed,
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these are pages 101 and 101. Um.
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We have added this latest
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resolution to the package of
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documents. Um, is there
[9:44]
anyone who objects to me
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speaking on this
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since I'm the one who
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brought it up
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without handing over the
[9:49]
chair to Jay? Are there any
[9:50]
objections?
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One.
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I, I deny it.
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OK.
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I deny it. People
[9:56]
deny it.
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Yes. Perhaps
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act as
[10:00]
chairman.
[10:01]
Why would you, Mr. Jay?
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So, a while ago,
[10:06]
um, some
[10:07]
supervisors
[10:08]
were asking or being
[10:09]
asked by members of
[10:10]
the public what we were
[10:11]
doing about
[10:12]
data centers. And the
[10:17]
Wisconsin Association of Counties has
[10:19]
been working on model
[10:20]
ordinances for several months. And when
[10:24]
they were ready, I
[10:25]
gave a copy to
[10:26]
Chief
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Vandenberg, probably a
[10:28]
week before
[10:29]
he put it on the
[10:30]
website. As a district,
[10:34]
you know, we often
[10:35]
get asked why we don't have
[10:36]
more time,
[10:37]
why we don't do
[10:38]
other things in this
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regard. The answer is
[10:40]
: we can't.
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There are no cities in our district
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that have chosen
[10:43]
comprehensive zoning
[10:45]
. But the Association of
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Counties prepared a
[10:48]
draft resolution. All
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this
[10:50]
regulation does, and it's
[10:51]
reflected in this
[10:52]
resolution, is
[10:53]
require any
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projects, whether it's
[10:55]
solar power,
[10:57]
wind power,
[10:58]
energy storage,
[10:59]
or
[11:00]
data centers, any
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large project,
[11:02]
to notify us of
[11:03]
their intention to move
[11:04]
forward. The reason is that
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they have a
[11:07]
huge impact on
[11:08]
our roads and other
[11:09]
facilities. So the project
[11:11]
developed by the WCA is now
[11:12]
being sent to all
[11:14]
districts. I asked the
[11:16]
corporation's legal department
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to prepare this and
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submit it to the
[11:19]
board meeting, rather than
[11:20]
waiting another 4 months for
[11:21]
it to go through the
[11:22]
normal
[11:23]
committee process.
[11:24]
Because everyone asks us:
[11:25]
what exactly do we do? How do
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we interact with
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all local
[11:28]
communities? That's how it
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got here.
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I'll stop here,
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J.P., you can get down to
[11:34]
business.
[11:36]
Got it.
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You, Chief LaBella
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?
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I vote "yes".
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Let's bring this up
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for discussion and
[11:45]
then we can
[11:46]
discuss it, okay?
[11:47]
So,
[11:47]
everyone who is "in favor",
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speak up by
[11:49]
saying "yes."
[11:49]
Everyone who is "against" is
[11:50]
similar.
[11:51]
Clerk, record
[11:52]
the support.
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Supported by
[11:53]
Chief Cole.
[11:54]
Have a question for
[11:55]
discussion? To
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the Chief Lycoming.
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Thank you, Mr. Vice
[12:01]
President. I'm going to take this
[12:03]
a little slow.
[12:07]
My eyes are not what they
[12:08]
used to be, I'm like
[12:10]
Blackie's boss. I ca
[12:12]
n't see anything anymore. And it
[12:17]
wasn't at 6:30 in the evening. I
[12:22]
thought I would
[12:23]
vote for it in a
[12:24]
certain way. Now I'm
[12:27]
not sure anymore. I
[12:30]
have read this
[12:30]
resolution
[12:31]
ten times. Now I know
[12:35]
where it came from,
[12:36]
I know the intention, and that's
[12:38]
good. So I said to
[12:40]
myself, “Yes. Yes. "Okay,
[12:42]
finally the county council
[12:43]
got involved in this."
[12:45]
They are involved in
[12:46]
kindergartens. We've been
[12:48]
waiting for this for a long time. There
[12:51]
was a big crowd here this morning. So
[12:54]
my first thought was,
[12:55]
“Yes. "Yes, a good
[12:57]
thing." Then I
[12:59]
read it again, and again. And
[13:03]
now I will draw your
[13:04]
attention to the second point
[13:05]
"given that". And this
[13:08]
means that if
[13:09]
data centers
[13:11]
are built
[13:12]
anywhere, it will cause
[13:13]
damage to
[13:14]
county roads,
[13:15]
city roads,
[13:16]
state
[13:17]
highways, and
[13:18]
any other facilities.
[13:20]
Yes, this can
[13:21]
happen. Yes, it
[13:22]
will happen. I live
[13:24]
nearby, in fact the
[13:25]
solar
[13:25]
power plant borders
[13:27]
my plot. And there
[13:28]
is indeed
[13:29]
damage there. There
[13:30]
is no
[13:31]
doubt about that. But here's
[13:32]
one of my first
[13:33]
concerns,
[13:34]
actually my main
[13:35]
concern about
[13:37]
data centers. We have heard so much
[13:40]
in the media about the impact
[13:41]
on water. This is
[13:44]
not at all in this
[13:46]
resolution. We've heard a lot
[13:48]
about consumption...
[13:49]
Now we have two
[13:50]
solar stations on the
[13:51]
ground. This is
[13:53]
not in the resolution at all. In
[13:55]
my opinion, this is the
[13:56]
biggest problem.
[13:57]
She should have been there.
[14:00]
So now I look
[14:01]
at it differently and say to
[14:02]
myself: what does this regulation
[14:04]
say to developers
[14:05]
? What does this regulation
[14:08]
say to developers
[14:10]
? So look at the
[14:11]
intent and description there. It
[14:13]
says it there, and I'm just
[14:15]
highlighting some things. I should
[14:16]
n't
[14:17]
do this. I should have
[14:18]
read the whole thing, but it
[14:19]
says: if you
[14:21]
report, it
[14:22]
prompts the developers
[14:23]
. What does the
[14:25]
last paragraph "
[14:26]
taking into account" say? It
[14:27]
says: if
[14:28]
you allow the district
[14:29]
to plan in advance,
[14:30]
what any district should do
[14:31]
. This is great.
[14:33]
This is just wonderful. Yes.
[14:37]
And then it says that we,
[14:38]
or all of us together—I'll
[14:39]
add a little bit of myself
[14:40]
—can mitigate the
[14:41]
potential consequences
[14:43]
when this last word is
[14:44]
over. So
[14:49]
someone my age
[14:50]
learned to read between the
[14:51]
lines. And what I see
[14:55]
between the lines for
[14:56]
developers is this:
[14:57]
go ahead and
[14:58]
build your
[14:59]
data centers in
[15:00]
Loudoun County. And this
[15:04]
worries me very much. So,
[15:07]
you know, I'd be happy to be
[15:08]
wrong about that. And
[15:10]
I'll probably be...
[15:11]
voting in a
[15:12]
few minutes. I'm
[15:13]
probably wrong
[15:14]
about this, and that's
[15:15]
okay. But I
[15:16]
believe
[15:16]
the wording in this
[15:17]
resolution sends the
[15:18]
wrong signal. No matter
[15:19]
which way you
[15:20]
look at it, it
[15:21]
sends the
[15:21]
wrong signal.
[15:22]
I will vote "
[15:23]
against". I think my
[15:25]
constituents and people across the
[15:26]
country—I'm kind of
[15:28]
addicted to the
[15:29]
news. I listen to all the
[15:31]
different news networks. I
[15:33]
don't think they
[15:34]
want
[15:35]
data centers in the
[15:36]
form they are
[15:37]
so quickly
[15:38]
imposing on us now. Ahem. I
[15:40]
don't think they
[15:41]
want them at all. I don't
[15:42]
think they want just any
[15:43]
AI.
[15:45]
So, people across the country
[15:46]
are calling for action to be taken
[15:47]
slowly. Act very
[15:51]
slowly. And that would be
[15:53]
my message to you
[15:54]
today. Do
[15:56]
we need a resolution? Yes,
[15:57]
definitely. We
[15:58]
need it. Just not
[16:01]
this one, not now. I think it
[16:03]
needs to be
[16:04]
reformulated.
[16:05]
So, my final
[16:06]
thought here is maybe a
[16:08]
special committee.
[16:09]
Hmm, I don't know where I
[16:10]
want to go. I want
[16:12]
to hear from the rest of you
[16:13]
. But I believe that this
[16:15]
resolution needs to be
[16:16]
revised and
[16:17]
rephrased somewhat. Thank you.
[16:20]
Supervisors' meeting.
[16:21]
The supervisor is speaking
[16:23]
. Thank you. I had the
[16:28]
same
[16:29]
feeling as
[16:30]
Supervisor Layton
[16:31]
when I first
[16:32]
read this, and I've probably had
[16:34]
four people
[16:34]
contact me
[16:36]
about data centers in the past month
[16:38]
via
[16:38]
email and
[16:40]
phone calls. And
[16:45]
they need what
[16:46]
they don't want.
[16:50]
Reading this, I
[16:51]
agree with what
[16:52]
Supervisor
[16:53]
Wright said. I don't see anything
[16:57]
that would prevent
[16:58]
any corporation from
[16:59]
building
[17:00]
data centers in
[17:01]
Wood County. Based
[17:03]
on what is
[17:04]
written here. And I'll probably
[17:07]
vote
[17:08]
against it too, simply because
[17:10]
I think we
[17:11]
need something. But I think
[17:14]
this needs to be
[17:15]
reviewed, and that the
[17:20]
county should have
[17:21]
something in this ordinance
[17:22]
that protects our
[17:23]
citizens and our lands
[17:25]
. Good. And I just
[17:27]
say: yes, we are
[17:28]
informing you that we are
[17:29]
going to build,
[17:30]
we are informing you
[17:32]
that we are going to
[17:33]
erect it and so on.
[17:34]
So, you have...Thank you.
[17:36]
Good evening. Mr.
[17:38]
Chairman, may I?
[17:39]
Yes.
[17:40]
Thank you. I have no
[17:42]
ideas, no options
[17:43]
. I have not slept since this
[17:46]
came up, and I am in
[17:51]
a hurry to get a
[17:52]
resolution or
[17:53]
ruling. I'm not
[17:56]
expecting a resolution, but an
[17:57]
ordinance where the
[17:59]
county can
[18:00]
say to any
[18:01]
municipality: if
[18:02]
they do all these
[18:03]
things, you can't
[18:05]
stop it. You can't
[18:08]
, you have no
[18:09]
say in this.
[18:10]
And I think that's
[18:11]
wrong. I
[18:12]
personally believe that
[18:13]
they had to go
[18:14]
through this, not because I am the
[18:16]
chairman of the Judiciary
[18:18]
Committee. They had to
[18:19]
go through them. They should have
[18:22]
sent it to the
[18:23]
county council, because what
[18:24]
they did was the
[18:25]
right thing to do. So
[18:27]
I vote against. I am
[18:30]
very upset about this.
[18:32]
Really upset.
[18:35]
Because I've been doing this since
[18:36]
December 2025,
[18:37]
knowing about it and
[18:38]
listening, and I've been to
[18:40]
other counties when
[18:41]
they held their
[18:43]
meetings and so on. And of course,
[18:46]
they went there, and
[18:47]
they are not happy.
[18:49]
But then, why didn't I
[18:50]
do something about the
[18:51]
county association
[18:52]
to say, "If you
[18:53]
want to come to
[18:54]
Wood County, you have to
[18:55]
do this." They have
[18:56]
enough money to
[18:58]
do these things. But
[18:59]
they don't have to
[19:00]
follow this.
[19:01]
I vote against.
[19:05]
Supervisor Lackey?
[19:07]
Thank you. Um, I'd like to
[19:08]
hear from our
[19:09]
corporate
[19:10]
lawyer. Nick, could
[19:11]
you please respond to these
[19:13]
statements. Thank you. Thank you.
[19:16]
This, Mr. Chairman.
[19:18]
I'm talking.
[19:19]
Um, so just a few
[19:21]
points. There have been a lot of
[19:23]
comments, and if you're
[19:24]
expecting a response
[19:26]
to some of them, uh, then
[19:27]
I have to do that. Um,
[19:31]
I think, for the most part,
[19:32]
one important aspect is that
[19:33]
this
[19:35]
ordinance in no
[19:36]
way takes away
[19:37]
the authority of
[19:38]
local governments. That is,
[19:40]
in towns, villages,
[19:41]
cities—nothing in this
[19:43]
resolution
[19:44]
does this. Secondly, um, I
[19:46]
know that the first
[19:47]
comments that were
[19:48]
made, uh,
[19:49]
were about solar
[19:51]
energy, and actually, uh
[19:52]
, I think, uh,
[19:54]
solar, wind,
[19:56]
and
[19:57]
data centers were mentioned. Uh, and
[19:59]
just to clarify,
[20:00]
this only applies to
[20:02]
data centers, and I think this is
[20:03]
important, this
[20:04]
relates to the second
[20:05]
comment made
[20:06]
. Um, there was a comment
[20:08]
about solar
[20:09]
power plants, uh, and
[20:11]
some of the impacts that
[20:12]
uh have come about because of them,
[20:14]
and, uh, some of the uh,
[20:15]
probably those impacts
[20:17]
uh, have been mitigated,
[20:18]
as you all know, through uh,
[20:21]
development agreements.
[20:24]
Remember that in such
[20:25]
cases, because
[20:26]
they have to go
[20:27]
through the
[20:28]
Public Service Commission (
[20:30]
PSC), we will receive
[20:31]
notices regarding
[20:32]
such projects,
[20:33]
solar and wind.
[20:35]
Um, when you're talking
[20:36]
about large-scale
[20:37]
solar projects,
[20:38]
large-scale wind
[20:39]
projects, there's no such requirement
[20:40]
for
[20:41]
data centers,
[20:42]
okay? So, this
[20:43]
only applies to
[20:45]
data centers. So understand
[20:47]
that we get
[20:48]
some advance
[20:50]
notices when
[20:51]
documents are filed
[20:52]
with the PSC for solar and
[20:53]
wind projects, as
[20:55]
we saw with the
[20:56]
Saugatuck project, but we
[20:57]
don't get them for
[20:59]
data center projects. And so
[21:03]
this ordinance is
[21:04]
actually needed
[21:05]
so that we
[21:06]
get
[21:07]
notice of these
[21:08]
potential developments.
[21:11]
This does not mean you
[21:12]
can start
[21:13]
after we
[21:14]
receive
[21:15]
the notice
[21:16]
as this will still be
[21:17]
subject to local
[21:18]
regulations. Nothing here
[21:20]
overrides local
[21:22]
regulations. What it
[21:26]
allows, and this is in
[21:27]
our resolution here,
[21:29]
uh in its later
[21:30]
part, uh in the
[21:31]
coordination and
[21:32]
review section, is that
[21:33]
after receiving
[21:34]
the notification uh to
[21:35]
forward it either to
[21:36]
the committee that
[21:37]
controls the relevant
[21:38]
consequences or to the
[21:40]
district council itself. In
[21:44]
other words, it
[21:45]
gives us a notification
[21:47]
that such projects
[21:48]
are being planned. That's good.
[21:50]
I, I, I mean
[21:51]
I already see that as a
[21:52]
positive
[21:53]
in any of these
[21:54]
projects, whether it's data
[21:55]
centers,
[21:56]
wind power, or
[21:57]
solar power.
[21:58]
We have the necessary
[21:59]
guarantees. It's not very
[22:01]
good, though, when
[22:03]
we
[22:04]
lose local
[22:05]
control over
[22:06]
wind and
[22:07]
solar projects due to existing safeguards,
[22:08]
but there is a
[22:09]
notification mechanism that should
[22:10]
be a safeguard.
[22:15]
That's not the case with data centers
[22:17]
, and that's why, as
[22:18]
I understand this
[22:19]
recommended package
[22:20]
from the WCA, this is what I
[22:21]
see in this regulation
[22:23]
: to provide
[22:24]
us with the same kind of advance
[22:25]
notice that exists
[22:26]
for
[22:27]
solar and wind regulations
[22:29]
so that we
[22:30]
can plan and
[22:31]
try to
[22:32]
anticipate and
[22:32]
mitigate any
[22:34]
negative impacts.
[22:39]
I hope this
[22:40]
resolves the issue
[22:41]
you raised.
[22:42]
Thank you.
[22:43]
Can I take the floor
[22:44]
and then come back
[22:45]
to the vote?
[22:47]
Mr. President. I think
[22:48]
our corporate
[22:49]
lawyer
[22:50]
summed it up to some extent.
[22:51]
The reason for this was
[22:52]
not to
[22:53]
bypass any
[22:54]
other authority. The thing is,
[22:55]
when this
[22:56]
current project was
[22:57]
proposed,
[22:58]
no one warned us.
[22:59]
No idea.
[23:01]
People from the public called me
[23:02]
and asked what was
[23:02]
going on. We
[23:03]
say we
[23:04]
need a
[23:04]
warning. We
[23:05]
need to be
[23:06]
able to do
[23:06]
this, actually, as I
[23:07]
wrote in my
[23:07]
notes. We already have
[23:08]
such protections if
[23:09]
projects fall
[23:10]
under the jurisdiction of the
[23:11]
Public Utilities Commission (
[23:12]
PSC). We are being notified.
[23:14]
But we had no
[23:14]
idea. And I do
[23:16]
n't deny that
[23:17]
the county at some point
[23:18]
, if our cities
[23:19]
implement
[23:20]
comprehensive zoning
[23:21]
and we move in that
[23:22]
direction, will have
[23:23]
additional protection.
[23:25]
But now we have 22
[23:26]
cities, and none of them
[23:28]
fall under such
[23:29]
protection. So, all
[23:31]
we're asking for with this
[23:31]
resolution, the only thing
[23:33]
we need is to
[23:33]
let us know when you're
[23:34]
coming so we
[23:35]
can start these
[23:36]
conversations in advance.
[23:37]
Otherwise, we will
[23:38]
find ourselves in a situation of
[23:39]
complete surprise,
[23:39]
as in this case. I, ended up having to
[23:41]
call them myself to
[23:42]
find out what was
[23:43]
going on. It would be
[23:44]
nice to know. So I
[23:45]
also had a few
[23:46]
conversations with most of the
[23:47]
committee chairs
[23:48]
before this, saying that
[23:49]
they didn't see, because I
[23:50]
know, maybe they didn't
[23:52]
see all of this.
[23:53]
We are looking for protection,
[23:54]
but we want to be
[23:54]
informed in a
[23:55]
timely manner. And that's all
[23:56]
I'm after here. Just
[23:58]
let us know. We
[23:59]
will work with
[24:00]
cities. We've already had
[24:01]
some conversations.
[24:02]
I have various
[24:04]
department heads here, and we
[24:05]
will look at this at a
[24:07]
city association meeting, most likely a
[24:07]
city
[24:08]
community meeting, as to
[24:09]
what their zoning process might be
[24:10]
. We
[24:12]
have no power over
[24:13]
cities, period, and we
[24:13]
never will.
[24:14]
They can do whatever they
[24:15]
want. Uh,
[24:17]
cities might
[24:17]
need some
[24:18]
protection. This is the first
[24:19]
step towards
[24:20]
at least being
[24:21]
informed. And we
[24:22]
can do it
[24:23]
this month, instead of
[24:24]
getting an offer five days later
[24:25]
that we weren't
[24:26]
notified about. So, there
[24:27]
was a reason for that.
[24:29]
I think Nick explains it
[24:30]
very well. Time was the
[24:32]
reason we
[24:33]
brought this up
[24:35]
, because we, each and every one of you
[24:36]
, are asked every day, "What do
[24:37]
you do?" Well, this is the
[24:38]
first step, at this
[24:40]
point it's the only thing
[24:41]
we have
[24:42]
the authority to do.
[24:47]
What is the question?
[24:49]
You know, as far as
[24:51]
I know,
[24:52]
there are 48 of
[24:53]
these
[24:54]
data centers in Wisconsin right now, and
[24:55]
three more are being built right
[24:57]
now. These big
[24:59]
companies come to the
[25:00]
area, impose it on
[25:02]
people, and expect
[25:03]
people to be on
[25:04]
their side. I don't
[25:06]
know what to do. I, I mean
[25:08]
, I have
[25:09]
no idea what to do. I don't
[25:11]
know what's best for us
[25:12]
. But I don't
[25:14]
like that we are being
[25:15]
forced to do this. What?
[25:24]
I can say I
[25:25]
hesitate, because yes, we
[25:26]
need a
[25:27]
warning. If we
[25:30]
do nothing,
[25:31]
they will come, and once the
[25:32]
shovel
[25:33]
touches the ground, there is nothing you can
[25:34]
do.
[25:37]
E-m. They have a lot of
[25:41]
money. It would be like
[25:44]
harassing
[25:45]
quarry workers.
[25:46]
You, you serve them with
[25:47]
summonses. You hand it to
[25:49]
them. You hand it to them. And
[25:50]
they just
[25:51]
keep digging
[25:52]
under their streams and
[25:54]
, um...We need to
[25:57]
do something. This is not a
[26:00]
moratorium. As I
[26:03]
said, there may be a
[26:04]
warning. But what, do we do when
[26:07]
they do something without
[26:08]
telling us? Um, they'll
[26:10]
tell you after
[26:11]
that. "It's nothing because
[26:12]
we have plenty of money."
[26:15]
Um, that's really hard.
[26:20]
I have a quick
[26:21]
question about this.
[26:23]
is my second time. I've
[26:29]
been watching the news on
[26:30]
cable since 11 o'clock,
[26:31]
ever since we
[26:32]
got it.
[26:33]
You can't
[26:34]
say that. That would be
[26:36]
inappropriate.
[26:37]
Sir, you, you can't even
[26:38]
postpone for a
[26:39]
certain time. You can't
[26:40]
take this out of
[26:41]
consideration. Removing it from
[26:42]
consideration kills it.
[26:44]
So, you want to
[26:44]
postpone for a certain
[26:45]
time, i.e.
[26:46]
next month.
[26:47]
Good. Is there
[26:48]
anyone who
[26:49]
supports? I
[26:51]
support.
[26:53]
the leader's request, yes. Are
[26:55]
there any other
[26:56]
discussions?
[26:57]
Mr. Learn.
[27:00]
No. Is there
[27:01]
anything else on the council?
[27:03]
Continue.
[27:04]
Take your
[27:04]
phone.
[27:07]
Yes, I want to make a
[27:08]
comment. You know,
[27:10]
obviously, working to
[27:11]
further
[27:12]
protect the community from a
[27:13]
county perspective, we're
[27:14]
communicating with the
[27:15]
county, both of us
[27:16]
who are not subject to
[27:17]
comprehensive zoning
[27:19]
. Uh-huh. This process has not
[27:22]
stopped. We
[27:23]
continue to
[27:24]
work on this.
[27:25]
But, I think the message
[27:26]
that we're sending to
[27:27]
the community, to the people who are
[27:28]
offering bonuses,
[27:29]
again, we're
[27:29]
not doing anything.
[27:30]
I get asked every day,
[27:32]
"What do you do?" This is the
[27:33]
first step. The first
[27:34]
step—at least we
[27:35]
know. If we
[27:36]
know, we can
[27:37]
intervene in that
[27:38]
conversation, have those
[27:39]
difficult negotiations with
[27:41]
those companies.
[27:42]
At least we have
[27:43]
an idea. Uh, there will be
[27:44]
other offers,
[27:46]
but if we wait
[27:47]
another month, who knows
[27:48]
who else will come to town,
[27:49]
make an offer, and
[27:50]
again, I don't
[27:52]
know about
[27:52]
the supervisor on this
[27:53]
board, but it
[27:54]
came as a surprise to me.
[27:56]
I found out about it
[27:57]
after the
[27:58]
public found out. So I'm
[27:59]
just saying: give us a
[28:01]
chance to find out, and that's
[28:02]
all it gives.
[28:03]
Supervisor Whitehill
[28:04]
.
[28:05]
Okay, and I'm doing this for the second time
[28:06]
. This is the last time
[28:08]
I say this. I was
[28:09]
very careful with
[28:11]
my words. Uh, I
[28:12]
said, "Let's take our
[28:13]
time." I asked,
[28:15]
"Do we need a
[28:16]
resolution?" Yes, it is
[28:17]
necessary. Uh,
[28:19]
the message I
[28:20]
was hoping to convey is that
[28:23]
we have a little time.
[28:27]
The resolution is very
[28:28]
different from the
[28:29]
various resolutions
[28:30]
we vote for. This is a
[28:33]
permanent
[28:34]
decision.
[28:36]
Can we take
[28:38]
one month? I
[28:39]
mean, this is what
[28:40]
the supervisor is asking for.
[28:42]
Can we take
[28:43]
one month to be
[28:44]
more thorough and
[28:45]
do everything
[28:45]
right? That's all
[28:47]
I had in mind when
[28:48]
I made my first
[28:49]
statement. Thank you.
[28:51]
Mr. Vice Chairman,
[28:53]
the supervisor raised
[28:54]
his hand.
[28:56]
I want to change the
[28:57]
question.
[28:57]
Why does the supervisor
[28:59]
raise
[29:01]
Well, I think it would be
[29:02]
tactless to ask
[29:04]
you this question, but
[29:05]
you know, the question is
[29:06]
about the
[29:07]
initial
[29:07]
petition. This is not what this
[29:10]
adjournment motion is about. So it
[29:11]
may be inappropriate
[29:12]
to ask this question
[29:14]
if it is postponed.
[29:16]
So, I'll just
[29:17]
wait until they
[29:18]
vote.
[29:19]
This is not...this is a postponement
[29:21]
. We are postponing.
[29:23]
Supervisor, I'm
[29:24]
turning off your microphone.
[29:31]
Mr. Vice President, uh,
[29:32]
this will also be my
[29:33]
second word on this
[29:35]
matter. Uh, I
[29:38]
appreciate the
[29:38]
clarification from our
[29:39]
legal advisor, as well
[29:41]
as the chairman. Uh, and
[29:52]
knowing how
[29:53]
regulations work, you can
[29:54]
have a regulation in the
[29:55]
archive and then
[29:56]
go back if
[29:57]
something isn't the way you
[29:58]
want it to be and you can
[30:00]
reopen that
[30:01]
regulation and make
[30:02]
changes. So for now,
[30:10]
I will
[30:11]
vote against
[30:12]
pausing this
[30:13]
. Oh, I, I
[30:17]
changed my mind. I
[30:22]
think we
[30:23]
need to
[30:24]
implement something so that
[30:25]
at least we are
[30:25]
informed about such
[30:27]
plans so that we can
[30:28]
act together with the
[30:29]
relevant cities
[30:30]
.
[30:35]
Supervisor Buckshot.
[30:39]
I think Wayne
[30:40]
said it well, Mr. Chairman
[30:41]
and others. We are just, I think
[30:44]
, getting
[30:45]
approval for this. So
[30:47]
, this doesn't mean we are
[30:49]
"for" or "against" this
[30:50]
data center.
[30:52]
This is for
[30:53]
further
[30:53]
clarification.
[30:56]
Supervisor Holland,
[30:58]
do
[30:58]
I agree? At least
[31:01]
we're doing something.
[31:04]
By postponing
[31:05]
the vote, we
[31:06]
are revealing the cards
[31:07]
as to what
[31:08]
will happen in 30
[31:09]
days.
[31:11]
What will happen
[31:12]
during these 30 days? I
[31:14]
will also vote "
[31:16]
against".
[31:17]
Supervisor Lloyd?
[31:20]
The last three warehouses in
[31:21]
the county have caused
[31:22]
traffic jams on our
[31:23]
highways. I would like to
[31:26]
hear a comment
[31:27]
from our
[31:27]
road
[31:28]
department on
[31:29]
this specific
[31:30]
issue. I heard you
[31:31]
had a comment.
[31:32]
I don't...What is your
[31:33]
position on
[31:34]
postponement? I don't
[31:35]
think that's appropriate.
[31:37]
We can discuss
[31:38]
this after the meeting.
[31:39]
Supervisor Lloyd?
[31:40]
That would be inappropriate at this point
[31:41]
. I don't
[31:42]
think so.
[31:43]
Then I vote.
[31:45]
Dick, would you...
[31:50]
I would first put this
[31:51]
proposal to
[31:52]
a vote, and then,
[31:53]
if it is considered,
[31:54]
this issue can be
[31:55]
raised. Does
[31:59]
anyone else want to
[32:01]
I have a question about the
[32:02]
amended proposal.
[32:04]
Just to clarify:
[32:05]
the offer is to
[32:06]
postpone it to the
[32:07]
next month.
[32:08]
So, if the proposal is
[32:10]
supported, we
[32:10]
will return to this
[32:11]
next month.
[32:16]
No more comments? We vote.
[32:20]
Supervisor Rosario,
[32:21]
your
[32:22]
microphone is on.
[32:24]
No.
[32:26]
Supervisor Zerillo?
[32:29]
Yes.
[32:38]
Supervisor Fried, you
[32:39]
need to
[32:40]
press the button again.
[32:41]
Click it. Okay,
[32:43]
let's clarify, you're
[32:44]
voting again. "No"
[32:47]
, "yes" or "no" regarding
[32:48]
postponement.
[32:50]
Okay, vote "yes
[32:52]
" or "no." The amendment did
[33:02]
not pass, there was
[33:03]
nothing to vote for.
[33:06]
Let's go back to the
[33:07]
original
[33:08]
proposal. Is there
[33:09]
a discussion of the
[33:10]
initial
[33:11]
proposal?
[33:17]
Supervisor Boyd, would
[33:18]
you like to hear from Hybrid
[33:20]
Cluster regarding
[33:21]
Yes. Could you
[33:25]
come to the microphone
[33:26]
for a minute?
[33:27]
Of course, Boyd is the boss.
[33:33]
We... We approached
[33:34]
this in a similar way to what we
[33:35]
did with the
[33:36]
solar
[33:37]
power plants in
[33:38]
Saratoga. We will
[33:40]
determine the
[33:42]
scope of construction,
[33:43]
its scale and pace
[33:44]
. And then we will need to
[33:48]
research exactly what
[33:49]
routes and
[33:50]
roads you will be
[33:51]
using.
[33:53]
Therefore, it is difficult
[33:54]
to say exactly what
[33:55]
exactly the data center will build
[33:56]
and what
[33:57]
damage it may cause
[33:59]
. This will take
[34:02]
some
[34:02]
initial
[34:04]
developer time, as we
[34:05]
spent a year or two
[34:06]
with the developers in
[34:07]
Saratoga to
[34:08]
outline what they
[34:09]
needed. So I think
[34:11]
we'll follow the same
[34:12]
process
[34:13]
as we would with any
[34:14]
data center development.
[34:16]
So, to answer
[34:17]
you: we'll have to
[34:18]
meet with them and
[34:19]
find out what exactly
[34:20]
they're going to develop.
[34:23]
I think...Can I
[34:24]
ask? That's
[34:24]
exactly what I wanted to
[34:26]
ask.
[34:26]
Yes.
[34:28]
So, regarding the data
[34:29]
center
[34:29]
proposed here
[34:30]
for the city of Wisconsin
[34:32]
Dells, have you had any
[34:33]
communications with these
[34:34]
people?
[34:35]
I didn't have any. I didn't have any.
[34:37]
So when do you
[34:38]
think such communications will take place
[34:39]
?
[34:41]
Well, it will be partly the
[34:42]
city's job,
[34:43]
since most of the
[34:44]
development
[34:45]
is within the
[34:46]
city limits. We do not have
[34:47]
any jurisdiction
[34:48]
over roads within
[34:49]
city limits. So
[34:50]
, if they had
[34:51]
suggested
[34:52]
using the
[34:53]
ring roads outside
[34:54]
the city, then we
[34:55]
would have faced that.
[34:56]
But at this point, there have
[35:00]
been no discussions outside of urban infrastructure. Are
[35:04]
there any other
[35:05]
comments on the
[35:06]
initial
[35:07]
proposal?
[35:11]
There are currently no
[35:13]
fuses,
[35:14]
noise barriers, or speed bumps
[35:16]
. At least this
[35:18]
offers something.
[35:20]
These stitches
[35:20]
will stop
[35:21]
calling me.
[35:28]
Are there any more comments?
[35:40]
Joe, did you want to
[35:41]
say something or are you just
[35:42]
waiting for the
[35:43]
vote?
[35:45]
Uh, no, I didn't
[35:46]
want anything. Let me be brief
[35:48]
and clear: you know,
[35:50]
why
[35:50]
use 10
[35:51]
words when you can
[35:53]
use 10,000? I'm
[35:56]
going in circles here. I
[35:58]
thought that postponing
[35:59]
this matter would be the
[36:00]
best solution
[36:02]
so that we could form a
[36:03]
proper committee and
[36:04]
start
[36:04]
thinking
[36:05]
things through. However, I
[36:08]
go back to
[36:09]
Mr.
[36:10]
Finnegan's explanation and fully
[36:11]
trust what he
[36:12]
said. So I
[36:15]
will vote "in favor" of
[36:17]
adopting this
[36:18]
resolution. Thank you.
[36:23]
Are there any more comments? Madam
[36:27]
Secretary, can you
[36:28]
call all those...
[36:32]
Okay, we won't
[36:33]
use the
[36:34]
scoreboard because we have
[36:34]
a little problem with the
[36:35]
system. So I
[36:36]
will hold a roll call
[36:37]
vote because I don't
[36:38]
think we can
[36:39]
accurately determine
[36:39]
the results of a
[36:40]
voice
[36:40]
vote. With your
[36:42]
permission, Mr. Vice
[36:43]
President. Let's start from
[36:44]
the top of the list.
[36:45]
Supervisor Schultz.
[36:46]
Yes.
[36:47]
Now we need to
[36:48]
turn on
[36:49]
Supervisor Rosie's microphone.
[36:50]
Supervisor Rosa, your
[36:51]
vote.
[36:53]
Yes.
[36:57]
Good. Supervisor
[36:58]
Budde.
[36:59]
Yes.
[36:59]
Supervisor Perlak.
[37:01]
Yes.
[37:01]
Supervisor
[37:02]
Umenhofer.
[37:03]
Yes.
[37:03]
Supervisor Bray.
[37:05]
Yes.
[37:06]
Supervisor Boyd.
[37:07]
Yes.
[37:08]
Supervisor Khan.
[37:09]
Yes.
[37:10]
Supervisor Goldberg
[37:12]
.
[37:12]
Yes.
[37:12]
Supervisor Toger.
[37:14]
Yes.
[37:15]
Supervisor
[37:15]
Penscover.
[37:16]
Yes.
[37:17]
Supervisor
[37:18]
Valentine.
[37:19]
Yes.
[37:20]
Supervisor Kasper.
[37:21]
Yes.
[37:22]
Supervisor [ __ ].
[37:25]
Yes.
[37:25]
Supervisor
[37:26]
Glendenning.
[37:27]
No.
[37:29]
Council Chairman Klemmer.
[37:30]
Yes.
[37:32]
Supervisor Zirbel.
[37:34]
I.
[37:36]
Supervisor
[37:36]
Hamilton, is there
[37:37]
Supervisor Layton?
[37:39]
No.
[37:41]
Mr. Chairman, this
[37:42]
resolution was adopted by 16
[37:44]
votes in favor, 2
[37:45]
against, and 1
[37:46]
abstention. I
[37:50]
must now hand over to
[37:51]
Chairman Fleming.
[37:53]
Thank you. Deputy
[37:56]
Chairman.
[37:56]
Moving on,
[37:57]
just a quick
[37:58]
comment since
[37:59]
the voting
[38:00]
is over. This does not
[38:01]
mean the completion of
[38:02]
other work in
[38:03]
progress. I know
[38:05]
our district has been working
[38:06]
on this. The
[38:08]
State County Association
[38:09]
is working on
[38:10]
getting lawyers involved
[38:11]
so we can do
[38:12]
more from a
[38:13]
county perspective. And I know that
[38:17]
Supervisor
[38:17]
Clendenning is very
[38:18]
active with the
[38:19]
city division. I
[38:23]
gave him copies of the draft resolution
[38:25]
about a week
[38:26]
ago. Supervisor
[38:27]
Clendenning, a week and a half
[38:29]
ago. So, they
[38:30]
can start
[38:31]
working on it. This is not
[38:32]
necessarily the
[38:33]
final solution,
[38:34]
but I think it's
[38:35]
a start, at least it
[38:37]
gives us some
[38:38]
direction. Regarding
[38:39]
Roland's comment, it would be
[38:40]
nice to know
[38:42]
that something will eventually
[38:43]
happen. So
[38:44]
thank you. This
[38:45]
brings us to
[38:46]
our
[38:47]
agenda. Today
[38:48]
we have a special
[38:49]
question. I invite a
[38:51]
representative from ADRC.
[38:52]
Mike, please
[38:53]
come over. We ask
[38:55]
them to come annually
[38:56]
and report to
[38:57]
us. Since its
[38:58]
inception, ADRC has been
[39:00]
extremely successful.
[39:02]
We get very
[39:03]
little increase in
[39:04]
spending from the county,
[39:05]
and in many cases
[39:06]
we are able to
[39:07]
maintain or
[39:08]
expand services
[39:09]
within our
[39:11]
four-county consortium.
[39:12]
So, Mike, you have the floor
[39:14]
.
[39:14]
Yes, that's good. Thank you. I am
[39:16]
grateful for the
[39:16]
opportunity to come and
[39:17]
talk to you.
[39:18]
Most of you have probably
[39:20]
seen
[39:21]
my annual
[39:21]
presentation, but
[39:23]
maybe some of you haven't,
[39:24]
so I'll give you a brief
[39:25]
overview of the
[39:26]
organization,
[39:27]
how we're set up, and why
[39:28]
I come to you every year
[39:30]
. We are a
[39:31]
regional
[39:32]
organization of
[39:33]
four counties,
[39:34]
formed by these
[39:35]
counties within the
[39:36]
region based on an
[39:37]
intergovernmental agreement. As
[39:40]
part of this agreement, I
[39:41]
provide each of these
[39:42]
districts with updated
[39:43]
information regarding
[39:44]
support services and
[39:45]
what is happening
[39:46]
within the organization. Um, I
[39:48]
think I'm last on the
[39:49]
agenda
[39:50]
today, so I promise
[39:51]
to be brief. But
[39:52]
if you have any
[39:53]
questions, I'll always be
[39:54]
happy
[39:55]
to answer them.
[39:56]
So, I will start with the
[39:57]
challenges
[39:59]
and
[40:00]
issues the organization faces. I promise that
[40:01]
later I will tell you
[40:02]
about some successes.
[40:03]
In terms of challenges, as you've
[40:04]
heard, especially over the
[40:06]
last few years,
[40:07]
our biggest
[40:08]
challenge is, frankly
[40:09]
, our budget.
[40:11]
Funding, as you
[40:13]
know, we
[40:14]
receive primarily from the
[40:15]
federal
[40:16]
and state governments, with a
[40:17]
small portion,
[40:18]
about 12% of our
[40:20]
budget, coming
[40:21]
from county councils.
[40:23]
We also have certain
[40:24]
contributions from
[40:25]
real estate taxes, which is
[40:26]
also taken into account. These
[40:28]
funding sources
[40:29]
have remained
[40:30]
unchanged over the
[40:31]
past few
[40:32]
years. If you
[40:33]
follow what's
[40:34]
happening at the
[40:35]
federal level, you've
[40:36]
probably heard that the
[40:37]
Older
[40:38]
Americans Act has been pending
[40:39]
reauthorization
[40:41]
for at least three years, and
[40:42]
possibly even
[40:43]
four. He is
[40:45]
stuck in Congress at
[40:46]
this level. This
[40:48]
means that our
[40:49]
funding
[40:49]
remains
[40:50]
unchanged when they
[40:51]
pass these
[40:52]
bills to
[40:53]
continue
[40:53]
funding
[40:54]
federal programs.
[40:55]
It keeps our
[40:56]
funding at a
[40:57]
stable level. And
[40:58]
if your
[40:59]
funding doesn't
[41:00]
change and expenses
[41:01]
continue to rise
[41:02]
, you're actually
[41:03]
getting a cut
[41:04]
. So, that was one
[41:05]
of our biggest
[41:06]
challenges. At the
[41:08]
state level, we saw a
[41:09]
small increase in
[41:10]
funding for our
[41:11]
resource services
[41:12]
during the last
[41:13]
biennial budget.
[41:15]
Certainly
[41:16]
not enough to
[41:17]
cover all expenses.
[41:20]
But we still
[41:20]
saw some
[41:21]
slight increase
[41:22]
in this regard.
[41:25]
Another challenge we face
[41:26]
is the cost of our
[41:27]
nutrition programs,
[41:28]
particularly the prices of
[41:29]
food. If you've
[41:32]
been to the grocery
[41:34]
store, you know
[41:35]
that food prices
[41:36]
continue to rise
[41:37]
. This impacts our
[41:39]
suppliers and
[41:40]
then us as
[41:41]
we try to
[41:42]
procure
[41:43]
products for those we
[41:44]
serve.
[41:45]
So, those were the
[41:47]
challenges. How we
[41:50]
addressed these
[41:51]
issues, like many
[41:53]
other departments
[41:54]
sitting behind me,
[41:55]
is by reviewing how
[41:56]
you deliver services,
[41:57]
and potentially
[41:58]
reducing those
[41:59]
services and
[42:00]
staffing. So we
[42:04]
approached this from
[42:05]
both sides. We
[42:06]
have reduced our
[42:07]
staff over the
[42:08]
last 3 years. We
[42:09]
did this through
[42:10]
natural
[42:11]
staff turnover and not
[42:12]
filling vacant
[42:13]
positions. We have reduced
[42:15]
two administrative
[42:16]
positions in our
[42:17]
leadership team. And
[42:19]
they also adjusted
[42:20]
the list of services. I
[42:21]
think
[42:22]
I told you last year
[42:24]
that we were forced to
[42:25]
reduce the volume of
[42:25]
Meals on Wheels food deliveries
[42:27]
. In 2025, we
[42:28]
reduced the number of
[42:29]
servings in our
[42:31]
region by 29,000. This had a
[42:32]
significant impact on everything
[42:33]
. We used to
[42:36]
be able to deliver
[42:37]
five meals a
[42:38]
week to our
[42:39]
customers and sometimes
[42:40]
provide frozen
[42:41]
lunches for the weekend.
[42:44]
Now we have reduced this
[42:45]
to a maximum of four
[42:46]
servings per week.
[42:48]
Sometimes we provide a
[42:49]
fifth serving as a
[42:50]
frozen meal for
[42:51]
those at highest
[42:52]
risk. And for
[42:54]
people at moderate
[42:55]
risk, we can
[42:56]
provide no more than
[42:57]
three servings per
[42:58]
week. Regarding
[43:01]
our other services, namely the
[43:03]
ADRC resource center,
[43:04]
previously people could
[43:05]
simply visit
[43:06]
us and get
[43:07]
advice from a specialist
[43:09]
on site. Due to the
[43:14]
large flow of
[43:15]
clients and
[43:15]
staff reductions
[43:17]
, visitors
[43:18]
can now come in, they are
[43:19]
redirected to
[43:20]
a specialist, and we
[43:21]
contact them
[43:22]
within 24 hours to
[43:24]
schedule an appointment,
[43:25]
but this is still a
[43:26]
reduction in services.
[43:30]
So, these are some of the
[43:31]
challenges and steps
[43:32]
we took. I also
[43:34]
want to talk about
[43:35]
our successes and attempts
[43:37]
to change something. The
[43:38]
fact that our
[43:39]
funding
[43:39]
has remained at the
[43:40]
same level does not
[43:41]
mean that we are not
[43:42]
looking for new sources of
[43:43]
income. We were able to
[43:45]
obtain grant
[43:46]
funding through
[43:48]
foundations in our
[43:48]
region. In
[43:53]
Southwood County, we received a
[43:54]
fairly significant grant
[43:56]
for the Meals on Wheels program
[43:57]
for local
[43:58]
residents. We also
[44:03]
opened an account with the
[44:05]
Community Foundation of
[44:06]
North
[44:06]
Central
[44:07]
Wisconsin so people
[44:09]
can make
[44:09]
donations and
[44:10]
receive tax
[44:12]
benefits as a
[44:13]
501c3 charitable organization. This is an
[44:16]
area that we
[44:17]
will actively
[44:18]
develop in the future.
[44:20]
Donations continue to
[44:21]
come in small
[44:23]
amounts. People don't
[44:24]
donate thousands and
[44:25]
thousands of dollars, but
[44:26]
we are grateful for every
[44:27]
donation we receive. We are
[44:30]
really trying
[44:31]
to find ways to
[44:32]
generate more
[44:33]
revenue. How to make
[44:36]
our work
[44:37]
as
[44:37]
efficient and
[44:38]
effective as possible,
[44:39]
while providing the
[44:40]
best services for
[44:41]
our clients. As you
[44:45]
know, the proportion of
[44:46]
the population aged 60 and over
[44:48]
continues
[44:49]
to grow and will continue
[44:50]
to grow until at least
[44:51]
2040, especially in the
[44:53]
northern counties of the
[44:54]
state. So we
[44:58]
will continue to
[44:59]
fix these
[45:00]
problems and find
[45:01]
ways to solve them.
[45:05]
We also formed an
[45:06]
advocacy committee
[45:07]
, which included
[45:08]
community representatives
[45:10]
, board members, and
[45:11]
advisory committee members.
[45:16]
They not only
[45:17]
help us with
[45:18]
advice, but also
[45:19]
work
[45:19]
directly with
[45:20]
legislators,
[45:21]
advancing our
[45:22]
issues and
[45:23]
speaking out about the
[45:24]
urgent needs of
[45:25]
this region. I am
[45:29]
convinced that the
[45:30]
regional model is the
[45:31]
best and
[45:32]
most efficient
[45:33]
way to provide
[45:34]
services. Talking
[45:37]
to colleagues in smaller
[45:38]
counties, especially in
[45:39]
the north, where they
[45:40]
are trying to provide
[45:41]
services on their own, I
[45:43]
can't even imagine how
[45:44]
they cope with
[45:45]
all the contractual
[45:46]
requirements and
[45:47]
limited budgets. I do
[45:48]
n't know how they
[45:49]
do it. For us, as a
[45:51]
union of
[45:52]
four districts, there is an
[45:53]
advantage—we can
[45:54]
redistribute
[45:55]
resources to where they are
[45:56]
needed most.
[45:59]
For example, if someone
[46:01]
from the state is on vacation,
[46:02]
which is currently
[46:02]
happening, we
[46:03]
can transfer
[46:04]
staff between the four
[46:06]
counties to
[46:06]
ensure the
[46:07]
highest
[46:08]
level of service possible. This was a
[46:14]
short report. I could
[46:18]
go into detail about all of
[46:19]
our service models,
[46:20]
but you are all familiar with
[46:21]
our work, so I am
[46:22]
happy to answer
[46:24]
any
[46:24]
questions you may have.
[46:26]
If you have
[46:27]
a question, raise your
[46:28]
hand, Michael will give
[46:30]
you the floor, and
[46:30]
Supervisor Buckley
[46:31]
will assist.
[46:34]
You...This is a great
[46:35]
program. Sorry.
[46:39]
I have always been
[46:40]
concerned about the issue of
[46:41]
health and
[46:42]
social services,
[46:43]
but I will shorten
[46:44]
my opinion a bit. But the people
[46:48]
who don't need it...
[46:53]
Those who still... Is it
[46:54]
explained to them how
[46:56]
they pay for it? I
[46:58]
heard there's some kind of
[46:59]
box here. Nobody
[47:01]
knows what they
[47:02]
put in there.
[47:02]
Please explain,
[47:04]
if possible.
[47:05]
Yes, I
[47:06]
can certainly explain that.
[47:07]
So, you're mostly
[47:08]
referring to our
[47:09]
dining or food
[47:10]
programs, which are
[47:12]
facility-based, where
[47:13]
people come to
[47:14]
get food. You know,
[47:16]
our requirements
[47:17]
are based on the
[47:18]
Older
[47:19]
Americans Act. Under
[47:20]
this federal
[47:21]
program, we do not
[47:22]
conduct a
[47:23]
means test. So
[47:24]
I can't ask
[47:25]
you about your
[47:26]
income level. Or whether
[47:27]
you can
[47:29]
afford this program.
[47:32]
Instead, I can
[47:33]
communicate the
[47:34]
recommended
[47:35]
contribution level,
[47:35]
explain its
[47:36]
importance, and the
[47:37]
impact on our budget.
[47:40]
So, actually, that's how it is. You
[47:43]
come to an institution
[47:44]
where there is a recommended
[47:45]
contribution amount. On
[47:46]
site you will find
[47:48]
a box where you can
[47:49]
put your money.
[47:51]
We have implemented all
[47:52]
necessary
[47:53]
controls for audit
[47:54]
and other purposes. I don't
[47:58]
know if you gave
[47:59]
$5 or if someone
[48:00]
else gave $0, I don't
[48:01]
keep track of who exactly
[48:03]
contributed how much. I can
[48:06]
say that we
[48:08]
worked a lot on a
[48:08]
strategy for how
[48:10]
to convey to people
[48:11]
the importance of their
[48:12]
contribution. And encourage
[48:17]
those who can
[48:17]
afford to
[48:18]
contribute more to
[48:19]
do so. This
[48:22]
year we are considering
[48:23]
the option of
[48:23]
introducing
[48:24]
a range of contributions.
[48:25]
Actually, I have a
[48:26]
meeting about this tomorrow
[48:26]
. You know,
[48:27]
the range for contributions.
[48:29]
I don't want anyone to
[48:30]
feel embarrassed
[48:31]
if they can't
[48:32]
afford it. But
[48:33]
if a person can, I would be
[48:34]
very grateful
[48:35]
if they would
[48:36]
contribute. I know you and
[48:38]
I have
[48:39]
discussed this
[48:40]
before. Ahem. Until that
[48:42]
changes, it means
[48:43]
they can't
[48:44]
get more. It would be
[48:45]
great if I could
[48:46]
serve more
[48:47]
seniors. Glad
[48:48]
you're already working
[48:49]
on this. Thank you.
[48:50]
Certainly. "
[48:53]
Meals on Wheels"?
[48:54]
Yes.
[48:55]
What about a
[48:58]
stranger?
[48:59]
Explain "Meals on Wheels"?
[49:01]
Yes, the Meals on
[49:02]
Wheels program has an
[49:05]
eligibility process.
[49:06]
First of all, you must
[49:07]
be limited in your
[49:08]
mobility and
[49:09]
stay at home to
[49:10]
qualify for
[49:11]
assistance. You
[49:13]
must also have certain
[49:14]
needs or
[49:15]
limitations in
[49:16]
performing
[49:16]
daily tasks
[49:17]
at home. We
[49:20]
use a
[49:21]
special
[49:22]
risk assessment scale
[49:23]
when visiting a client
[49:25]
. We conduct
[49:26]
an assessment for
[49:27]
everyone who
[49:27]
applies for Meals
[49:29]
on Wheels to determine
[49:30]
if the individual meets the
[49:31]
program criteria. And
[49:32]
then, based on
[49:33]
their risk level, we
[49:34]
determine whether they are
[49:35]
eligible for
[49:35]
assistance and what
[49:36]
level. Are they in the
[49:37]
highest
[49:38]
risk group, then we
[49:39]
can provide
[49:39]
four, maybe five
[49:40]
meals a week,
[49:41]
or are they in the
[49:42]
moderate risk group, and
[49:43]
we provide three
[49:44]
meals a week,
[49:45]
if possible. You
[49:46]
know, these indicators are
[49:47]
constantly changing.
[49:48]
I mean,
[49:49]
depending on our
[49:50]
region and what we
[49:51]
can or can't
[49:52]
afford
[49:53]
according to the budget.
[49:54]
Another factor here is the
[49:55]
large geographic
[49:57]
area we
[49:57]
serve. Therefore, we
[50:00]
rely
[50:01]
primarily on
[50:02]
volunteers in our
[50:03]
four counties to
[50:04]
deliver these lunches.
[50:06]
We have several paid
[50:08]
drivers who
[50:08]
deliver food to
[50:09]
very remote
[50:10]
rural areas. And
[50:12]
we also need
[50:13]
trucks that
[50:14]
can maintain the
[50:15]
required
[50:15]
temperature, which
[50:17]
is also an additional
[50:18]
cost that
[50:19]
has increased significantly in recent
[50:20]
years. The
[50:21]
car used to cost
[50:22]
us about
[50:23]
$30,000. It now
[50:25]
costs over 70,000 so
[50:26]
we can have
[50:27]
transportation to
[50:28]
deliver. So, yes, that
[50:29]
also
[50:30]
takes up a lot of
[50:31]
our time.
[50:35]
How many service areas do you have
[50:36]
in
[50:37]
Wood County?
[50:38]
OK.
[50:39]
So, you decided to
[50:40]
test me. So
[50:41]
, we have
[50:42]
40 degrees below zero—that's
[50:43]
really cold.
[50:44]
I am somewhat familiar with
[50:45]
them. We are both in
[50:46]
Wood County.
[50:47]
Yes. So now we have
[50:48]
Nekusa. We have
[50:49]
Centralia, which is here in
[50:51]
Stevens Point Rapids.
[50:52]
Yes, we have Marshfield
[50:54]
and the senior center there
[50:55]
.
[50:58]
And I will say that we
[50:59]
researched and started
[51:00]
implementing a slightly
[51:01]
different
[51:02]
nutrition model for
[51:03]
older adults, which
[51:04]
has proven to be very
[51:05]
successful. The ones that are
[51:08]
currently in operation are, in particular,
[51:09]
here, at the
[51:10]
senior center. It's
[51:11]
a little different in Nekus,
[51:13]
because it's only a few
[51:14]
times a week. But
[51:15]
Centralia and the
[51:16]
senior center in
[51:17]
Marshfield operate
[51:18]
on a 5-day program.
[51:22]
We started studying a
[51:23]
program that
[51:24]
involves
[51:25]
eating once
[51:26]
a week or once
[51:27]
a month. To
[51:32]
this is added
[51:33]
some kind of event or a
[51:34]
certain type of
[51:34]
activity. And that's exactly what
[51:37]
we see
[51:38]
our seniors want
[51:39]
: instead of
[51:40]
coming five
[51:41]
days a week, they
[51:43]
come maybe
[51:44]
twice a month. It
[51:45]
brings in more people,
[51:46]
it's an event, and it's an
[51:47]
activity where we
[51:48]
can
[51:50]
interact socially. And
[51:51]
thanks to this, we
[51:51]
can also
[51:52]
control costs somewhat
[51:54]
. But it also
[51:54]
provides that
[51:56]
socialization component, which,
[51:57]
you know, is
[51:58]
extremely important
[51:59]
in this program.
[52:01]
Certainly.
[52:03]
Yes, it was a great
[52:04]
program. We have
[52:06]
several representatives
[52:07]
in this room: Senator
[52:08]
Edwards, Representative
[52:09]
Kohlberg, and
[52:10]
Representative Dedi.
[52:11]
Our area has one of the
[52:13]
fastest
[52:13]
aging
[52:14]
demographics in the
[52:15]
state, so this is
[52:16]
important. We are also
[52:18]
dealing with the issue of
[52:19]
insurance for some
[52:20]
drivers, and as you
[52:21]
know, we hope
[52:22]
that
[52:23]
appropriate
[52:24]
state legislation will emerge.
[52:25]
But, Mike, this is a great
[52:26]
program, we
[52:27]
will continue to
[52:28]
support it and
[52:29]
hope that there will be
[52:30]
funds to
[52:31]
maintain at least
[52:32]
this level.
[52:33]
That would be great.
[52:35]
Does anyone have any more
[52:36]
questions?
[52:37]
Representative
[52:38]
Dembowski,
[52:38]
Representative Goldberg
[52:39]
, any comments?
[52:41]
No? OK. Mike,
[52:44]
thank you very much. We appreciate
[52:45]
this information. Okay
[52:47]
. This brings us to
[52:48]
the end of the agenda
[52:48]
. The next
[52:49]
meeting will be held on
[52:50]
October 20. Before that,
[52:51]
Representative
[52:52]
Dembowski?
[52:53]
I have a comment.
[52:54]
OK.
[52:55]
You start with the same
[52:56]
burning
[52:57]
question again. So,
[52:59]
clarity needs to be provided to
[53:00]
distinguish between the United Way of
[53:01]
South
[53:02]
Worcester County and
[53:03]
Adams County. So if the people
[53:07]
of Marshfield
[53:08]
get one for
[53:09]
United Way, how does that work?
[53:13]
Okay, that's exactly what I was
[53:14]
talking about.
[53:15]
Okay, that's exactly what I was
[53:16]
talking about.
[53:17]
This is the same option
[53:18]
we've always
[53:18]
used,
[53:19]
Mr. McDavies. This is
[53:20]
not news to you. I
[53:21]
mean, we
[53:23]
have the United Way, and Heather is the
[53:24]
president of that
[53:25]
organization. She
[53:28]
wants to get involved, but
[53:29]
for the district itself, it's
[53:30]
...what's the word to choose
[53:32]
? Our priority.
[53:40]
So, even before the
[53:41]
county recognized United Way as an
[53:43]
organization that was a
[53:44]
priority for the
[53:45]
county, I guess. And
[53:52]
so there was always a
[53:53]
representative there. We
[53:55]
are running a campaign.
[53:58]
It's not just
[53:59]
Sauk County, they merged,
[54:01]
so it's Sauk County and
[54:02]
Adams County. It's like a
[54:05]
core. Marshfield has
[54:08]
its own nucleus for the United Way
[54:10]
. So for all the
[54:14]
employees that I
[54:15]
oversee, because I'm
[54:16]
only responsible for a
[54:18]
certain group and
[54:18]
the Department of
[54:20]
Health and
[54:20]
Human Services is responsible
[54:21]
for another, we always
[54:23]
add a link
[54:24]
for everyone so they
[54:25]
can donate
[54:26]
to either South
[54:27]
Wood County or
[54:28]
North Wood County.
[54:32]
Which one is
[54:32]
Marshfield?
[54:33]
Which one is
[54:34]
Marshfield's?
[54:35]
And the answer to your
[54:36]
question, Don, I'm
[54:37]
not really
[54:38]
sure where the
[54:39]
line is.
[54:42]
Well, I I I I know there is a
[54:43]
line because, as Mike pointed out
[54:45]
, we have
[54:46]
Southwood County, and we
[54:48]
only have funds for
[54:49]
Southwood County. And that's the
[54:53]
line, I believe,
[54:54]
that was used.
[54:57]
Is that line there?
[54:58]
Well, I think the foundation
[54:59]
probably has lines
[55:00]
that they
[55:01]
use
[55:01]
where you get your
[55:03]
money from. So the
[55:03]
County itself would call
[55:05]
me and that's what they
[55:06]
could
[55:06]
Yes, that's where they
[55:07]
get the money from. They would
[55:09]
set that
[55:10]
boundary, not the district.
[55:11]
But I can tell
[55:12]
you where she is.
[55:13]
Sorry about that.
[55:15]
Yes.
[55:16]
Well, where is it? Okay,
[55:17]
we
[55:18]
got it sorted.
[55:18]
That would be a uh,
[55:20]
bad poll.
[55:21]
And, but, uh, if you
[55:22]
want the United Way to be
[55:23]
interested in
[55:24]
a donation, I'm
[55:25]
sure Mr.
[55:26]
Kenneth will contact
[55:27]
either me or
[55:28]
Heather and get a check
[55:29]
for the
[55:29]
county donation either
[55:30]
way. Um,
[55:31]
again, if you're
[55:32]
interested, I
[55:34]
put this on the table every year. Um,
[55:35]
contact me
[55:36]
or Heather about this
[55:37]
. Um, secondly,
[55:38]
for those attending the
[55:39]
WCA conference, um, I
[55:40]
gave you all
[55:41]
envelopes that have your
[55:43]
room reservation,
[55:44]
my
[55:45]
credit card authorization for
[55:46]
your room, and
[55:47]
also
[55:49]
tax exemption information for you. Um,
[55:51]
this shouldn't
[55:51]
happen, but
[55:52]
check your
[55:53]
credit
[55:54]
card statements after
[55:54]
the conference and
[55:55]
make sure
[55:56]
you haven't been charged
[55:57]
for the room. If it's
[55:58]
written off, let me
[55:59]
know and we'll sort it out
[56:00]
. I did
[56:01]
all the authorization, but
[56:02]
often I only pay for
[56:03]
the room, so you
[56:04]
pay the additional
[56:05]
costs yourself. Um, they
[56:06]
can make you
[56:07]
swipe your card, and
[56:08]
sometimes everything
[56:08]
gets transferred to your
[56:09]
card, so
[56:10]
keep an eye on that. That
[56:11]
was the case last year. And
[56:13]
I also put a piece of
[56:14]
paper if you are
[56:15]
interested in
[56:16]
attending the WCA session
[56:18]
on Monday at 3:30. Um, I
[56:20]
added a session there for
[56:22]
you if you're
[56:22]
interested in "Africa
[56:24]
20" at our company.
[56:26]
So,
[56:27]
Yes, so it will be soon
[56:28]
. I hope you all
[56:30]
come. Hmm, great
[56:31]
program. Sunday:
[56:32]
If you arrive
[56:33]
early, there will be a panel
[56:34]
discussion, and then,
[56:35]
I think it was
[56:36]
after the bonfire, the
[56:37]
staff organization
[56:38]
has an event where
[56:39]
many of you
[56:40]
former
[56:40]
board members will be, and then there will be a
[56:42]
reception later that evening if you
[56:43]
're in town on
[56:44]
Sunday. Um, this is a great
[56:45]
program. It is on the
[56:47]
WCA website. You can
[56:48]
view the full
[56:49]
agenda. Um, and
[56:50]
I hope to see
[56:51]
you all there. So,
[56:52]
if there is nothing
[56:53]
else for
[56:55]
the board to discuss, I
[56:55]
will declare the meeting
[56:56]
closed.