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Good evening everyone.
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It's Thursday, March 12th.
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Welcome to a regular meeting of the Army School Committee.
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We will start this meeting with the pledge of Allegiance.
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Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
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And to the Republic for which it stands.
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One nation under God, indivisible,
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with liberty and justice.
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Right.
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We will move on to roll.
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Call Emily Bryson here and Fleming here.
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Kelly Hall here.
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Tom McGinty. Present.
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Sarah Olivares here.
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Christina. Patrick.
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I'm here.
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Michael Wilber here.
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Andrew Jolliffe here.
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Linnea herring here. Elise Garcia there.
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Right now. Here.
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The tastic. We have everyone here.
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Well, I think many of you know, because you're here for this.
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We I'm excited to move to our next agenda item, which is the recognition of
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several Yarmouth High School, state championship teams.
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Yes. It's been quite a winter
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sports and, co-curricular season.
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Our winter sports, teams are here this evening that were, state champions.
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We have some robotics teams and hopefully the playmakers to recognize
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coming up, April 9th.
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I'll talk about
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those groups during my superintendent's report in just a few minutes.
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But at this time, I'm
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going to ask Sarah Holmes, our director of athletics, to come up.
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She's going to introduce coaches and athletes from boys
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Nordic skiing, girls alpine skiing, girls ice hockey, and indoor track.
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Who, captured state championships this winter.
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So yes, Miss Holmes.
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So thank you for having us today.
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We're excited to always come back and and introduce you to our state champions.
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Winter, as you know, is a very long season.
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For our student athletes, it starts in early November
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with girls ice hockey, which actually overlaps with the fall season.
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And then goes to this last,
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Saturday, March 6th with ice hockey and swimming.
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So over that course of the season, we compiled three regional and conference
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champions, two sportsmanship awards, and six individual and state team titles.
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And many of them are here tonight.
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So along with their success in their sport,
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their classroom dedication should also be celebrated.
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We had 41 senior student athletes,
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recognized as a Western Maine Conference, all academic.
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And if you remember, they must have a cumulative GPA of 93
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and above through seven semesters.
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So 41 student athletes is a tremendous accomplishment.
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So I'd
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like to now start with our first, state champion of the year.
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Girls ice hockey.
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And David interviews Otto.
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Thank you for all your support.
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And, of course, thanks to the girls that are here.
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Can girls, can you please stand up and be recognized?
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Yeah.
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Stay up. Stay up there.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, if all the raise your hand.
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My Anna's with Chuck Presley.
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Strout, Erin O'Connor, Lydia Costa, Dylan McElhinney,
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Eric O'Connor, Celia Zinman and Celia Smith is in the back.
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So not everybody could make it, but they're here.
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So thank you for everything.
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Appreciate all your support.
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Thank you.
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Congratulations.
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And next, I'd like to introduce
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Sarah Kerrigan with indoor track.
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All right.
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Thank you to the school committee for having us.
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And to Sarah Holmes for introducing us and keeping us going all winter long.
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We had three state champion, events this year for track.
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So the girls four by 200 and Mya Jacobs, who is in the four by 200.
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They are currently in route to Nike Nationals in New York.
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So they couldn't be here.
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But they'll still be running.
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Here with us today is Bow and Mitchell, who won the two mile and ten minutes
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and 12 seconds, which, if you do the math, is like five in some change
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for two miles or just crazy.
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So bow and come on up and I'll give you.
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Guys.
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All right.
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And let's hear here. Nope.
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So I'm going to have Zander Gordon, one of our senior captains, introduce
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the boys.
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And any girls, Nordic skiers that are here.
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It's just any girls.
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Thank you for having us tonight.
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If the boys could stand up.
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I'd like to introduce Eli Chalmers,
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Jackie Chalmers and Lachlan Dodge, all part of a
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and Finn Marion ski and Life Hall stood in the back up our winning team this year.
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Thank you.
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I'd like to also add that the girls and the boys Nordic team won
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the sportsmanship award this year, which is voted on by coaches of our league.
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Now you can clap them.
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And our last, coach is Shawn Lynch with girls.
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Alpine.
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Thank you.
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If we could have the girls stand up.
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Second year consecutive, state championship
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for the girls alpine team, we have Gwen Zimmerman, Finley Jaeger,
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Sophia Tippy, Quinn Laval, and Logan McLeod here tonight.
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Thank you.
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That's it for the season.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Congratulations. Another outstanding season.
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You know, many schools go years without amassing 3 or 4 state championships.
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And to, to continue to have them,
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brought before us each season is pretty impressive
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and an indication of the, the, hard work and dedication that you folks put in.
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So congratulations to each of you.
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Do we need a new trophy case?
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We do. We need several new trophy cases.
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As a matter of fact, doctor, doctor Hartnett has been trying to,
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with Miss Holmes, negotiate how to maybe remove some of the older
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trophies from the trophy case and put some of the newer ones in.
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But that is not always met with great enthusiasm by those
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who were maybe on some of those teams and are now coaching these teams.
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So we go in a real, I think, just a real, note
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of appreciation for the sportsmanship awards as fantastic and the student
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athletes, these are long nights and long season, and knowing that you have
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to do your homework on the bus and all your free time when you get home.
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I think that just speaks volumes
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to all you guys and your dedication to your sports and your school work.
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So just congratulations.
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It's super impressive each and every one of you. Yeah,
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truly.
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And thank you for being with us tonight so we can help celebrate you.
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And to Sarah's point, you are welcome to stay
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for the full meeting and we will pause for a moment.
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So if there's anyone in the room
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that would like to head out to other things, that is A-okay as well.
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Thank you.
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Congratulations.
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Congratulations.
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As Lyon was chasing me, I'm going to do one five minute mile.
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That's crazy.
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Thank you.
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That's great.
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Thank you.
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Oh, yes.
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I just came home.
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No, I have to.
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Yeah.
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While I'm thinking I'm just.
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Are you able to time.
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You got it.
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Excuse me.
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I never wear my watch.
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My, How do you turn off so much?
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Yes, I know, it's not like.
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Oh, here it is. Power. Yeah, that's a
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no. I'll do it.
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But I have my third. Is that us?
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I know I can't. It's probably not us.
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I really hope it doesn't ring.
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Wouldn't be while I have my time.
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It looks like little.
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Sports program.
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Public comments.
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See what you
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think.
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Okay.
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Thank you to all of you that are still with us.
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We appreciate it.
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We will move on with our agenda to agenda adjustments.
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I have none for this evening. Okay.
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So we'll move to approval of minutes from our last meeting,
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and I would like to make that motion.
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Kelly, anyone like to second Emily?
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All in favor?
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All opposed?
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Thank you very much.
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Approved.
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Next on our agenda are reports, starting with myself with a chair report.
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There are a few updates that I wanted to share this evening.
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First, an update on the superintendent's search.
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You might recall if you memorized the timeline, but it's okay if you didn't.
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The superintendent application deadline just happened last week.
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That's when applications were due.
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Our search firm, Ziel education Group, has vetted all of the applications
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and shared those materials with our search committee.
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As you might recall, the search committee is made up of members of the school
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committee, parents, staff, and administrators in the district.
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And this month, during the month of March, the search committee will be reviewing
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all of those applications, deciding which candidates to bring in
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for interviews, interviewing those candidates, and deciding
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which to advance as finalists to interview with the full school committee.
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So our goal is for the school committee to interview finalists
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in April and appoint a new superintendent this spring.
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So just wanted to keep everyone updated on where we are in the process.
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We will continue to keep you updated as we have news.
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And remain very grateful for all the members of the community
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that shared input on the front end
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about what you care about in our next superintendent.
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So that's one update.
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Two other quick notes.
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Local elections are coming up.
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The snow is melting.
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Mark your calendars.
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That voting is on Tuesday, June 9th.
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We will have two school committee seats on the June ballot.
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Interested candidates can stop by town hall to pick up nomination papers.
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And those papers are due back to town Hall on April 10th.
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And I think I can speak on behalf of the committee if anyone is pondering
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whether to run or to serve, I'm sure any of us would be happy to talk
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to folks about our perspective or to answer questions.
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And third, I just wanted to share a quick note of gratitude
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as we move into budget conversations later this evening on our agenda.
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We so appreciate all of the input and questions and feedback
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we've been receiving from members of the community.
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And perhaps that's why some of you are here tonight.
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So thank you. Wanted to express my gratitude.
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That is my chair report.
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Now, I will pass it to Doctor Della. Yes.
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I have several resignations to announce this evening.
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Paul Lampson, La Plume wife's mathematics teacher of 20 years.
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Rick Bishop y H.S., physics teacher of 41 years.
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Lexi Drew, language arts, social studies teacher at Harrison Middle School.
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Laura Elder Rowe School, of 18 years and Doctor Patrick Hartnett,
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y just principal of four years, have all announced their resignations
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or retirements from Yarmouth.
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You just met our state championship athletic teams.
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I'm pleased to announce that our robotics teams also had
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an outstanding, performance throughout the entire season.
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And certainly this past weekend, the high school robotics team,
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captured the state championship with teams Paradise Oaks and Voyager.
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There are there are several teams
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within the larger scope of the high school and middle school teams.
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So teams Paradox and Voyager, captured the state championship.
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That's read carefully.
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Crosby. Nay.
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Will. Huckle. Bauer. Pablo. Sonnenberg.
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Let's see. AD like.
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Goodwin. Noah.
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Van Allen, Henry Halligan, and Colin Swank.
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So they were all, members of the state championship team.
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Several other
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awards were, captured by the high school and middle school teams as well.
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And you'll be hearing all about that on April 9th.
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We'll have those teams present with us,
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in the high school, alumni room,
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where they'll be able to actually demonstrate their robotic prowess for us.
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The HMS robotics, we had a state finalist, team kinetic collision.
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That's Ryan de Courcy and Fisheries, Nathan Pat Stone,
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Gabriel Ballard of Oliver Copsey and Grant Chadwick.
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And they were in the tournament final, so congratulations to our robotics teams.
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Again, you'll be seeing them on April 9th.
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The playmakers won the regional competition
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for their one act play performance, which was Saturday, afternoon.
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They are now headed to the state championship on March 20 and 21,
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I think is the state, competition for that.
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Lots happening.
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So although we just sent out a February update,
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all of this good news means that we've got a march update.
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Just about ready to go out as well to the rest of the district.
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That's all I have for this evening.
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Thank you.
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We'll move to the finance committee and.
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Fleming.
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Thank you.
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We met this past Monday for our monthly finance committee meeting.
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Quickly went over.
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Where we're at with expenditures, we're on track.
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And where we want to be for this year.
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We spent a lot of the time we are in the middle of budget season,
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and we talked, that meeting about some potential updates to the budget,
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which our superintendent will be speaking to those later on this evening.
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So that would really serve as most of our finance update for this evening.
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Thank you.
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And policy committee, Sarah Olivares. Thank you.
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So in the last two consecutive policy
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meetings, we have been considering, along with Doctor Hartnett,
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further restrictions to cell phone or personal device uses at the high school.
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A lot of work has already been done,
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in this regard, to implement restrictions at the high school.
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So for the public who aren't aware, they do not have access to phones
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during class time, that you have access during passing and lunch.
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And in light of community feedback,
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school committee feedback, parent feedback,
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we've been, you know, in discussions with Doctor Hartnett about implementing
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further restrictions up and including, to a Bill Bell band.
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With the
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considerations of distractions still presented to students
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when they have their phones on them and potentially looking forward to it
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at times like passing and lunch and impacts
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on socialization, at lunchtime and things like that.
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In terms of the implementation of it and the exact policy
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that's still in, in discussion, and Doctor Hartnett is taking back,
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sort of an implementation strategy, options
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of a bells bell band to the staff
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and I think perhaps also to the student Senate.
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So more coming,
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in subsequent school committee meetings and policy meetings.
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As a as a side note, but very much related,
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if you follow the last, state to state, address from Governor Mills,
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she did announce her desire to have all school, public schools in Maine enact,
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a bill to ban, that is in budget appropriations,
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I believe, because that mandate is tied to funding,
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which amounts to about $13 a student.
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If schools choose to go with something like a yonder pouch
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or other storage device.
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And so just wanted to note
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that it's not the progress in terms of Yarmouth.
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And, what Doctor Hartman is proposing is not tied to whether or not that passes,
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but still, you know, informs the importance of that,
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just the importance of that discussion and sort of the
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the tide and how things are changing nationwide, really.
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So that is our update and we will have more to come.
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Thank you sir.
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Mission committee, Kelly Hall.
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Yes. The mission committee met this evening prior to this meeting,
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and we really just focused on the hiring process.
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I think that we all agreed that we have a very comprehensive hiring process,
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which is great.
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And just really reflecting to make sure that it is reflective
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of our school culture, but also appeals to a broad range of applicants.
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So how do we maintain, our clear expectations?
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And also, how do we welcome in folks
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who might bring something new, to the table
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and then also really focusing on limiting, biases
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in the application process.
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Thanks, Kelly.
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Any updates from other committees or liaisons?
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For Emily and then back to Kelly.
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So we had our third and final turf meeting.
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And I'm going to
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be emailing Andrew the recommendations of the committee.
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Essentially replacing the track and the term very similar to how it is now.
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It was really awesome hearing from our students
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and our coaches that our turf is the best turf that they play on.
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Even now, even though it's 13 or however many years old at this point.
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So we did just get an update,
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from activities on light replacement.
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We were still kind of, waffling on.
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Re lamping our current lights or replacing our lights with LEDs.
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So we just got that information, and so I'll build that into my report
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to Andrew, and I'm looking forward to talking about it with you guys.
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Thank you. Emily.
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Yes. So also there's a collective
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that meets, to talk about vocational school.
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So that's the Parks and Rec collective.
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Mostly made up of leadership and school committee members.
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Not a ton.
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That's new and exciting to report.
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We just talked about enrollment numbers.
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What programs have filled up, what programs are still open?
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And then
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what I thought was really interesting paths has traditionally had a horticulture
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program that they're moving towards, landscaping
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and really giving kids the opportunity to learn,
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not just like the landscaping,
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but also the hard scaping and how to use the equipment.
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And really plan.
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So it's good design as well,
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which I think is going to appeal to a lot of, students.
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RVC is changing some of their computer
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based programing to appeal to a broader range of students.
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They've had a lot of trouble filling those, which is it
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seems weird in these times.
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So they're trying, to shift one program
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to be more focused on, the coding, the programing things.
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I don't I mean, I don't understand I'm going to be honest.
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And then also cybersecurity and ethical hacking,
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which again, we're hoping will appeal to a broader range of students.
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And then something else to note is that PA's is looking at adding
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an arts program in the near future, which I think would be amazing as well.
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Thank you. Kelly.
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Other committees or liaisons?
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If not, we'll move to student Senate linear and at least.
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So Senate has been pretty busy.
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We have a lot on our plates right now.
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It's just today we had a successful spring assembly.
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And we also, have a new schedule for our school assemblies.
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Which are student run.
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And now they're going to be happening, only four times
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a year instead of once a month.
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So that means fewer assemblies.
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But we still want to get
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those updates out on sports clubs, upcoming events, all sorts of things.
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So we are trying to, bring
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back, like, intercom announcements.
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Those aren't something that happen anymore.
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And we're trying to bring them back
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as a way to continue spreading important information for students.
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And we're trying to work through some of some hiccups
[4:57:52]
because there is a wide variance
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in the audio quality of the speakers throughout the school.
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So we're trying to figure out,
[4:58:02]
how to work through that.
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And if you remember my name
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on the room, little tidbit that is still happening.
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I am not involved.
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They're very reserved about it.
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I think it's secretive.
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But it's the gnome is out there.
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I hope they don't bring back detention.
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Who's in detention as announcements at the end of the day,
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as some of us might remember.
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Yeah, yeah. Look at called out.
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I'm sure that it's not part of the talk about that one. So,
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in academic, we've been working on standardizing
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the honors challenge policies.
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So for those who don't know, we have some classes of like AP classes
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and like CP classes, and some classes just have what's called honors challenge.
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So it's like an extra, like bonus part on the test or like a bonus project
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that people will have to do in order to gain that.
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So we've been working on standardizing that across classes and across subjects
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just so it's more equitable.
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And then also, in light of all the new hires
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that we're going to be doing,
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we've been rewriting and like adding some new questions for the teacher,
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interviews for when students are helping to to do those panels.
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Yeah. That's it. Thank you both.
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Next on our agenda is public comment.
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And I'll share a few sort of parameters about how public comment works.
[4:59:12]
But I'm also excited to announce
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we're going to offer a second public comment spot this evening.
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We'll have one right now.
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And any individual who wants to address
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us on any issues related to the schools is welcome to do that.
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We prioritize,
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residents of Yarmouth and folks connected with the schools directly first.
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We cap everyone at three minutes for their comments, and we do keep a timer
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to make sure that everyone who has a desire to speak has a chance to speak.
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And I want to note, and mention this briefly when we get later
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in our agenda and discuss the school budget for next year.
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Doctor Delph is going to present some proposed changes to the budget proposal.
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And so if there are folks in the room that want to speak specifically
[4:59:54]
about the budget, we wanted to give you the option
[4:59:57]
to hear the latest news about the budget proposal coming out of recent
[5:00:01]
finance committee meetings, and new information that's been evolving.
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So what we will do is, after Doctor Dollar presents
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the updated budget proposal a little later this evening,
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we will open up a second public comment period
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for anyone who wants to address us specifically on the budget.
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And we'll do that before we move to our school committee vote.
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So I know I just said a lot of things, but the highlights are
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this is public comment now.
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And if you want to wait and hear more about the budget
[5:00:30]
and then react and speak to it, you will have an opportunity to do that
[5:00:33]
later this evening.
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So with that said,
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if you'd like to address us, we welcome you to come up to the podium,
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and start by introducing yourself with your name
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and your connection to Yarmouth schools and anything you'd like to share.
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I will be kindly giving you the three minute time.
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That's right. Our friendly timekeeper.
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Good evening.
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Tim Shannon, 47, West Elm Street, parent of three Yarmouth kids.
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Just a procedural question.
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I'm mindful of the time.
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If we have some discussion before the next public comment period,
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to have any sense of how long that discussion will take place.
[5:01:09]
I want to make sure that the kids in particular, who are here tonight
[5:01:12]
have a sense of how long they're going to.
[5:01:13]
They're in for, if you know what I mean.
[5:01:15]
That is a great question.
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We don't have much before the budget. Yeah.
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Ten calendar. Yeah.
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I mean, we will discuss the two other items first,
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the school calendar and an update on technology devices.
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So I don't anticipate it would be too long. Fabulous.
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I appreciate your.
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Did I just burn all my three minutes?
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I didn't I didn't start it. Noted.
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It was procedural and for the good of the group. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for your consideration
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of the group. Yes.
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Okay.
[5:01:46]
Yes.
[5:01:49]
Good evening.
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My name is Margo Downes.
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I'm a resident, parent and educator.
[5:01:53]
In recent months, you have scrutinized cell phone
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and personal device policies designed to protect our students.
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Our schools did not purchase these devices, nor do we require them.
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Yet you entrust our educators
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to enforce their safe and responsible use by students.
[5:02:11]
It is therefore contradictory for this board to disregard the Technology
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Department's evidence based proposal for iPads, a platform that offers
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superior security, safety, greater classroom versatility
[5:02:27]
and a more cost effective option for taxpayers.
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While community feedback matters,
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relying solely on a single survey to drive an expensive five year
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fiscal commitment, including repairs is flawed
[5:02:42]
by providing inadequate time for staff to gather meaningful input.
[5:02:46]
You have prioritized a voluntary response survey over
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empirical evidence and expert guidance of your own staff.
[5:02:55]
Any Yarmouth statistics student can tell you that
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this type of sample is riddled with bias.
[5:03:02]
It misses the middle of the curve and amplifies strong polarized responses.
[5:03:07]
The results cannot be generalized to an entire population.
[5:03:11]
The survey summary before us represents 900 responses.
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How many did not respond?
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The board's proposed decision is especially confounding given
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our current budget climate and swiftly changing educational landscape.
[5:03:27]
My seventh grader navigates her academic
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world safely and competently on an iPad.
[5:03:33]
Meanwhile, my college freshman is saving for an iPad
[5:03:37]
because the laptop we purchased lacks the flexibility needed for her coursework.
[5:03:42]
It is disheartening
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to see the board put their support behind a more expensive device,
[5:03:47]
while simultaneously reducing staff positions in the Stem programs.
[5:03:52]
As a young builder and designer, my seventh grader and many others
[5:03:57]
represent the very future these programs should support and inspire.
[5:04:02]
In my 25 years in Yarmouth, I have never seen financial priorities
[5:04:06]
in such direct conflict with our educational mission.
[5:04:10]
Choosing a more expensive, less secure device
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at the expense of invaluable staff and programing is fiscally inconsistent.
[5:04:19]
If I had to vote on this budget today, it would be my first note ever.
[5:04:24]
Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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I'll pause.
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In case anyone else would like to make a public comment.
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Hey. Good evening.
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My name is Adam Owen.
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37 Pitt Creek Way here in Yarmouth.
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First and foremost, thank you to everybody for being here.
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I appreciate all your volunteer work.
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And thank you to all the people that are,
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transitioning to retirement or resigning
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regardless.
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For elder, I've got four children that have moved
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through this system to be on high school.
[5:05:10]
A sophomore in high school.
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A sixth grader.
[5:05:14]
I see numerous friends and colleagues
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in the audience here, and my my, biggest thank you
[5:05:23]
is thank you to everybody that volunteers their time and energy.
[5:05:27]
And one of the things I most appreciate about being in this community,
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which I grew up in, is our genuine
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interest in developing young people.
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And that might be in academics, that might be in sports
[5:05:43]
and science and literature, like, whatever it is,
[5:05:46]
like there's a lot of energy to go around and, it's a lot of work.
[5:05:51]
So thank you to everybody up here.
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Thank you to all our educators, that are in our current roles or moving on.
[5:05:59]
And I my, my reason for comment is to contemplate,
[5:06:05]
as we move forward, how we support our young people moving forward.
[5:06:10]
Whether that's in
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the sciences or the arts or the sports or whatnot.
[5:06:16]
It's it's hard to balance everything.
[5:06:18]
So I appreciate everybody's efforts.
[5:06:20]
It's not easy to balance everything.
[5:06:23]
But I appreciate everybody's contemplation in that.
[5:06:27]
And we'll, we'll probably hear from other people as the night goes on.
[5:06:30]
But thank you very much. And I appreciate your effort.
[5:06:33]
Thank you.
[5:06:33]
Thank you.
[5:06:34]
Thank you.
[5:06:38]
Any others that would like to address us?
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To please step up to the podium?
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Okay.
[5:06:47]
All right.
[5:06:47]
We will move forward to unfinished business.
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As we mentioned, there are a couple other items to address.
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The first being the second reading of the 2026 2027 school calendar.
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Yes. This is the second and final reading.
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So your vote this evening will put this, into effect for the coming year.
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You have a copy in front of you again?
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This calendar must agree with the calendars of six other school
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districts in the greater Portland area that send their students primarily
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to Portland, using Technology High School for Career and technology education.
[5:07:20]
This calendar meets that standard,
[5:07:22]
which is a standard set forth in state law.
[5:07:26]
It will be one of the few times that Yarmouth will be starting school
[5:07:29]
before Labor Day, because Labor Day comes on Monday the seventh.
[5:07:33]
You'd still be starting only in the month of September, though,
[5:07:36]
with students coming on Tuesday, September 1st.
[5:07:40]
Staff would start the week prior to that.
[5:07:44]
The rest of the calendar pretty much follows
[5:07:47]
the traditional calendar that Yarmouth has followed for a couple of decades.
[5:07:51]
With the Friday before
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Indigenous Peoples Day as a staff day.
[5:07:58]
Then you have, Veteran's
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Day off in November on the 11th, three days around Thanksgiving,
[5:08:07]
a little bit shorter holiday break there from December 20th 3rd to January 1st,
[5:08:12]
instead of the lengthy two plus weeks that you had this year.
[5:08:17]
Martin Luther King Junior Day is on the 18th.
[5:08:19]
One week in February for the vacation.
[5:08:22]
You continue to have the Friday before the April vacation off.
[5:08:27]
Memorial Day would be off, and this would allow you
[5:08:29]
to finish school on Friday, June 11th, without any snow days.
[5:08:35]
That provides you the opportunity, as we've been doing the last few years,
[5:08:41]
to have, for traditional snow days if needed.
[5:08:46]
Before going
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to remote days in order to keep you from
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having school.
[5:08:52]
The last full week in June, starting on June 21st.
[5:08:56]
Note that Friday,
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June 18th next year, is the holiday
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when when Juneteenth falls on a Saturday, the holidays is on Friday.
[5:09:07]
If Juneteenth falls on a Sunday, the holiday is on a Monday.
[5:09:11]
So even though it looks as though you could go to school through the 18th,
[5:09:16]
you actually cannot go to school on that day because of Juneteenth.
[5:09:20]
So this calendar meets the law, and it is,
[5:09:24]
pretty much in line with what you've done in the past when we have had,
[5:09:28]
when Labor Day has been as late as the seventh,
[5:09:31]
you have started school on Tuesday, the first.
[5:09:35]
Thank you.
[5:09:35]
Would anyone like to make a motion to approve the second reading of the.
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Thank you, Sarah and second, Michael.
[5:09:41]
Any discussion or questions about the calendar?
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Seeing none, we will move to a vote.
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All in favor?
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Thank you. Calendar passes.
[5:09:52]
Thank you.
[5:09:52]
Get that up on the website and out to folks within the next couple of days.
[5:09:57]
Start planning our summers.
[5:09:59]
Next up, we have student technology devices.
[5:10:02]
Yes.
[5:10:04]
So, you've had this discussion before,
[5:10:09]
and it is directly related, obviously, to the budget
[5:10:12]
because there is a significant difference between purchasing iPads,
[5:10:17]
which were the recommendation from the technology department and purchasing,
[5:10:21]
MacBook airs.
[5:10:25]
This discussion has become more
[5:10:28]
complicated in the last, 32 hours or so,
[5:10:34]
because we
[5:10:35]
had a visit from the Apple representatives.
[5:10:38]
And Director Arnold is here this evening,
[5:10:42]
and the MacBook airs that we have typically purchased.
[5:10:47]
We were notified Tuesday afternoon that they are significantly
[5:10:52]
more expensive next year than,
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we have planned for in the past.
[5:11:01]
At the same time,
[5:11:03]
Apple has notified us of a new product, which was just released yesterday,
[5:11:07]
but they made us aware of it Tuesday afternoon, which is a
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a, a laptop called the Neo
[5:11:15]
with a price point closer to that of an iPad
[5:11:19]
than that of the MacBook air.
[5:11:23]
And we were under the gun here
[5:11:26]
in terms of the budget decision,
[5:11:31]
but we're not
[5:11:33]
we aren't hard pressed to make a quick decision
[5:11:36]
on which of these devices we end up going with.
[5:11:40]
We have some time there.
[5:11:43]
But if you want
[5:11:44]
the option for the more expensive model
[5:11:47]
tonight is your opportunity,
[5:11:50]
and your only opportunity really to make that decision.
[5:11:53]
Because the next agenda item is your budget.
[5:11:56]
It is your second reading of the budget at your second reading.
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Your budget is approved.
[5:12:04]
And we then begin preparing the documents
[5:12:07]
for the town council presentation.
[5:12:11]
So it is important that you have some,
[5:12:14]
that we have
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the administration has some direction as to where you would like to go
[5:12:20]
with the purchase of laptops or iPads,
[5:12:25]
I suppose, are still in the conversation.
[5:12:29]
I've asked Mr.
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Arsenal to be here this evening to answer questions that you may have
[5:12:35]
around the new solution.
[5:12:38]
I will tell you, I think it's fair to say that Mr.
[5:12:41]
Arsenal is not a, huge fan of the new
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offered solution, and he can explain why
[5:12:48]
in much greater detail than I can for you, because it's very technical.
[5:12:54]
And it's by its nature.
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If you were to.
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If you were to adopt
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or direct us to purchase
[5:13:07]
the neo solution,
[5:13:11]
you could leave your budget
[5:13:14]
where I'm going to be presenting it later this evening
[5:13:18]
with no added funds for thousand dollars
[5:13:22]
of added funds for technology.
[5:13:25]
If you were to direct us to purchase the laptops
[5:13:31]
that we have purchased in the past, the MacBook airs,
[5:13:35]
you would need to add $48,000
[5:13:39]
to the overall budget,
[5:13:43]
which would
[5:13:45]
increase the overall budget by approximately
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one tenth of 1%.
[5:13:56]
I think that
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probably the best way to move forward
[5:14:00]
would be to hear some information from Mr.
[5:14:02]
Arsenal as to what these two devices are, and then move
[5:14:07]
directly into our budget discussion so that I can share updates
[5:14:13]
from the Finance Committee and from the administration,
[5:14:16]
and you can hear from the public as soon as possible,
[5:14:19]
and then have your discussion around the budget
[5:14:23]
inclusive of that technology piece.
[5:14:25]
Does that make sense? Great.
[5:14:26]
And I guess my question, I think you answered
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is yes, is in light of.
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The technology discussion
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and the potential increase in 48,000.
[5:14:40]
If iPads was the choice, which is
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if the MacBook airs was the choice.
[5:14:46]
Sorry, MacBook. MacBook air was a choice.
[5:14:49]
And, you know, the consideration of the
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the half time position that I believe we're going to be talking about,
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we can't we're not going.
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We can hold on those things as a as a whole.
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We talk about the budget. We're not accurate.
[5:15:05]
So we don't we're not going to be making the decision on the devices
[5:15:09]
before we get to the budget, which is inclusive of the position.
[5:15:12]
That I think is exactly why I recommended we move forward into that conversation.
[5:15:16]
Okay. Yeah, great. Thank you.
[5:15:22]
We want to hear from.
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Yes, I think it'd be great.
[5:15:24]
Thank you.
[5:15:25]
Could you talk a little bit about both of the laptop solutions
[5:15:29]
that are now being recommended? Sure.
[5:15:32]
So last week, Apple
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did what Apple does and announced new devices.
[5:15:37]
And there's a lot of energy, a lot of excitement
[5:15:41]
around that new MacBook neo device.
[5:15:44]
Since it's education, price
[5:15:47]
is for it starts at 499, which is by far the lowest cost MacBook,
[5:15:53]
you know, laptop device that they've ever created.
[5:15:57]
On the other side of that is they've gone
[5:15:59]
to the newest processor, the M5.
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On the MacBook air line.
[5:16:04]
And with that, they're also now bumping up the price of the device.
[5:16:09]
It stayed fairly stable over the past several years,
[5:16:12]
as our current devices are the first iteration when Apple started
[5:16:16]
creating their own processors, which are the M1's.
[5:16:20]
And that's what the students and staff at the high school
[5:16:23]
and middle school as well are currently using.
[5:16:26]
So they've gone from that to the M2 to the M3, M4
[5:16:30]
and now M5 just got released this past week.
[5:16:33]
And so with that, it's,
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you know, the latest
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that they have in terms of the MacBook air line.
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And that's the only laptop that they make in the MacBook air line.
[5:16:45]
They used to carry on one of the older models
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as well, to offer a less expensive alternative.
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They're not doing this time because they have just released the MacBook neo.
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And so the difference between the two, they're both the same size.
[5:17:01]
The MacBook neo is slightly smaller, is still a 13 inch device,
[5:17:05]
but it's definitely a little bit smaller than the, the the MacBook air is
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it's I had my hands on one today, and it's very sturdy.
[5:17:16]
Well-built.
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The biggest differences between them
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is that the neo uses a mobile processor.
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So it's a similar processor that's used in iPhones,
[5:17:30]
and has less memory, so less Ram
[5:17:33]
and the device than what Apple provides in
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any other of their other devices, like the MacBook air, starts
[5:17:40]
at 16GB of memory and can go up from there.
[5:17:44]
The neo is only available in eight gigabytes,
[5:17:46]
which is concerning for me over the longevity.
[5:17:51]
We typically purchase these on a four year lease
[5:17:54]
and then use them for five years.
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And in that fifth year, when we're not paying for the lease,
[5:17:59]
we put that money towards infrastructure for the network wireless,
[5:18:03]
which is all the things that make all the everything work.
[5:18:07]
And so my concern is whether that device would be durable to now.
[5:18:13]
So I shouldn't say use the word durable but hold up as new
[5:18:15]
operating systems are released to
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still have the speed and
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and that we need to do the work that the kids are doing in the classroom.
[5:18:26]
And so it's
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it's a nice device. Okay.
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Like I said, I had my hands on it and right now it runs great.
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But the my concern is time,
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and especially as the device is run more
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artificial intelligence on board memory is key there.
[5:18:45]
And that could be problematic down the road.
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So my biggest concern is the longevity of the device.
[5:18:50]
Like I said, short term it's a great device.
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It'll do everything that our students need it to do.
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I'm just worried if if we'll be able to make it five years on them,
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which then could get costly as we might have to refresh sooner,
[5:19:03]
which could impact the ability to do, the infrastructure work in year five.
[5:19:09]
Thank you.
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Does anyone have specific questions about the devices themselves?
[5:19:14]
Emily.
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How much memory does iPad have?
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The iPad has six gigabytes, but it runs a completely different, operating system.
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Okay. Yeah.
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The Mac OS is much more taxing than especially the desktop
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apps that run on it as well.
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Thank you.
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No questions at least.
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Just so you're not concerned about, like, the memory of the iPads holding up
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in the same way that you are. But then.
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Okay. No.
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Could you say more about that? Sorry.
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I'm just.
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Can you say more about that?
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I'm interested if if there's a concern about the memory
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and the how the NIO would hold up given I was not.
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Yeah.
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Because the NIO runs Mac OS and Mac OS is much more robust
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in terms of what it can do in terms, you know,
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and requires more processing power than the iPad operating system,
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which is a completely different operating system.
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So it doesn't need as much horsepower to keep it going.
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Ellie.
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And then, my question was answered, I don't know.
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I'm curious, with all the new information, everything.
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That is it still your recommendation that you think iPads are the best solution?
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I would like,
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you know, when I see the opportunities of what the iPad can do,
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I think it's going to do 95%
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of what students are currently doing as well.
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There are some hits that well that will be in there
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as far as some of the especially in some of the Steam classes and so forth.
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But it will also bring a bunch of capabilities that we don't have current
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with the laptops or will ever have with the laptops in terms of the ability
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to interact with a touchscreen
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and all the things that that can do. The,
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yeah, we've
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been over this multiple times
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on, you know, as far as some of the those pieces that I'm particularly
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looking forward to in that respect, it also gives us
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the ability to better
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manage the devices in terms of the students and what they can
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do with them, and in terms of filtering and restrictions that we can put in place.
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Kelly and and Sarah.
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So just a clarifying question.
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I think you mentioned before, you're not getting rid of all laptops.
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So let's say there is a steam class.
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There are potentially laptops available to use for that specific purpose.
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Yes. Okay.
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This may be a difficult question to answer,
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but I just wanted to address it, especially in light of public comment,
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which I appreciate.
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And and really the overwhelming, you know, we we did
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I think maybe it's like contradiction to the speaker.
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Mr. Jones, we
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you know, we had a pretty solid number of, of survey responses.
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And I'm just curious if you could
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speak to the survey responses and perhaps why
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you think particularly students and staff really lean towards
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at the high school, lean towards the, the, the laptops?
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Why do you why do you think that is?
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You know, that is, you know, under consideration and what the school
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committee has been really looking at, in addition to it,
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I mean, there's there's personal opinions here, but I think we're really looking to
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to staff and students for what's workable, what's some continuity
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form factor, ergonomics, a lot of things like equity in terms of
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if you have an iPad, you
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maybe if you don't like you buy a laptop with your family or buy your laptop,
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if there's there's a lot of discussion, there's a lot of considerations.
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We've had a lot of emails on this which are over whelming pro laptops.
[5:22:54]
So again, why do you think, you know, and to totally respect your,
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your, your feedback
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and your input as a technology director and that you're recommending the iPad.
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However, the sort of the overwhelming responses has been the other way.
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Just if you can comment on that. Sure.
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I think a lot of it is what people are accustomed to with this would be a change.
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It would be a big change.
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The other part of it is,
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I think that the success of our iPad program
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at the elementary level impacts what people think about the device.
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They look at it as a device that little kids use.
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It's a toy, when it's can be a significant learning device and,
[5:23:34]
so I think that that has impacted how people view the device itself.
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I feel that staff and students
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who have had the opportunity to see what it can do, have been
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pretty excited
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about the idea of what, you know, how things could be different
[5:23:51]
with that, and especially as we move into again,
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I'll bring up the big topic of the day is of,
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you know, artificial intelligence as we're working to do more
[5:24:01]
and more to
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give students the ability to demonstrate their learning in ways
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that artificial intelligence doesn't exceed, that creation is where that lies.
[5:24:14]
And the iPad is a much better creation device.
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Thank you. Other questions. Linnea.
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I just wanted to comment on that part where you said that students
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and teachers who have interacted with the devices have been pro iPad.
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I have seen that as well among my fellow student senators.
[5:24:34]
Who were able to talk with you about it and, you know, actually feel that iPads.
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I think that most students at Yarmouth
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High School are probably pro laptop
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because most of them don't know anything about the iPad.
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Really.
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And like you said, I think that there is a perspective of
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that's for little kids that we're for high schoolers.
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We're going to be in college next year.
[5:25:00]
What are we doing with iPads?
[5:25:02]
So I think that that's both of your points are definitely true.
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I will just Kelly, I will just add to
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I work in another school district and we're moving towards the same thing.
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And for staff and students who have had those experiences as well,
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they've been overwhelmingly positive.
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So I can just add that as well.
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Let's see no further questions.
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In this moment, we can segue into our budget conversation.
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I think that's thank you.
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Thank you.
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Doctor Di.
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Yeah.
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So this is your second reading of the, school department budget.
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Your vote this evening will,
[5:25:43]
make this official and will be a budget that we send on to the town council.
[5:25:47]
Although there is always the opportunity for an adjustment with the town council
[5:25:51]
because we have health insurance premiums still to be
[5:25:55]
determined.
[5:25:57]
So we'll talk about that in just a second.
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So in work over the past couple of weeks with the Finance Committee,
[5:26:04]
and administratively, we have some recommended changes
[5:26:07]
to the budget that, you folks had had approved.
[5:26:12]
And first is that,
[5:26:15]
I recommend that we amend the turf field funding plan.
[5:26:19]
The way that the turf field has been funded over the past,
[5:26:23]
dozen years that I've been in the district.
[5:26:26]
And it may have started a year prior to that.
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Is that
[5:26:30]
at the time the school department took over the turf field, it originally
[5:26:34]
was purely, town property, and the town
[5:26:38]
operated that, the turf field
[5:26:42]
12 or 13 years ago.
[5:26:43]
The school department took that over.
[5:26:46]
And at that time
[5:26:48]
there was a debt service payment
[5:26:51]
on the field,
[5:26:53]
and the debt service payment
[5:26:55]
would go down each year, not only on the field.
[5:26:58]
You had debt service on some of the facilities
[5:27:01]
that were still being paid for that had been updated in the, 2000.
[5:27:07]
Okay.
[5:27:08]
And the plan was or the agreement was between the school department
[5:27:12]
and the town, that while the debt service
[5:27:16]
payments would go down, the school department
[5:27:20]
would continue to fund the same amount in the budget.
[5:27:24]
And that extra money
[5:27:26]
right where you filled the gap would go into a reserve fund
[5:27:31]
to help pay for the next generation of the artificial turf field.
[5:27:36]
At some point in the past 12 years,
[5:27:39]
all of that old debt service went away and the school department
[5:27:44]
continued to simply place $85,000 a year in the budget.
[5:27:50]
And that would go into a reserve fund.
[5:27:52]
So you have in your budget and in the proposed budget for next year,
[5:27:58]
$85,000
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to go toward the next iteration of the turf field.
[5:28:05]
I would propose that
[5:28:08]
you look at your new debt service number because you have debt service
[5:28:14]
from the projects that were done five years
[5:28:17]
or so ago at all four schools.
[5:28:20]
And you take that same approach that was originally applied
[5:28:25]
to your debt service from the prior projects.
[5:28:29]
If you do that, you'll remove
[5:28:33]
an $85,000 line from this year's budget.
[5:28:37]
But over the next ten years, as your debt service
[5:28:41]
drops on the projects that were approved five years ago,
[5:28:45]
you will continue to budget that same amount, and you will put money
[5:28:50]
into a reserve fund to pay for the next iteration of the turf field.
[5:28:58]
If you do that,
[5:29:00]
according to the debt service schedule,
[5:29:05]
in the year 2039.
[5:29:09]
2039 long after
[5:29:14]
I am spending my winters on a beach somewhere.
[5:29:19]
No. My wife says that's not true.
[5:29:22]
You will have,
[5:29:25]
amassed.
[5:29:30]
And get to the second page here.
[5:29:35]
A contribution
[5:29:36]
of approximately $1.9 million
[5:29:40]
without having to increase your debt, service
[5:29:44]
payments or budget this separate amount now,
[5:29:49]
right now, we have about $1 million
[5:29:52]
from the strategy that we had employed over the past 12 years.
[5:29:57]
The project that Emily referred to earlier, the Turf Field project,
[5:30:02]
is likely to be somewhere in the $2.5 million range.
[5:30:07]
And when we add the needs from the playgrounds
[5:30:10]
at the middle school and Yarmouth Elementary School
[5:30:14]
to that, it's probably going to push it closer to 3 million.
[5:30:18]
So you have a million.
[5:30:19]
You're going to need a couple million more.
[5:30:20]
That means you're going out to the voters at some point soon
[5:30:23]
and asking them to bond.
[5:30:25]
That if you take this plan and implement this,
[5:30:30]
you've got some early gains.
[5:30:33]
Next year, you can take $85,000 out of your budget,
[5:30:36]
but in the long run, you're going to have a significant amount of money
[5:30:39]
to put toward the fourth generation of your turf field.
[5:30:45]
Tom Gibb I just wanted to point out that that iteration also
[5:30:49]
will not include a complete redo of the track, most likely.
[5:30:54]
So yeah, so it may be, but who knows what happens to cost in that time?
[5:30:57]
Clearly.
[5:30:58]
But you'd have it's a
[5:31:00]
you know, I think the strategy and it wasn't one that I had thought up.
[5:31:04]
The strategy that you put in place 12 or 13 years ago was a sound one,
[5:31:09]
because it kept your budgeting level, but it built up funds
[5:31:13]
that are going to reduce your need to go to the taxpayers
[5:31:17]
for bonding, for that significant, project.
[5:31:22]
I suggest that you do the same thing
[5:31:24]
now with the current debt service level,
[5:31:29]
you'll have $1.9 million in the year 2039,
[5:31:34]
and you can take $85,000 out of this year's, but you can.
[5:31:38]
It's actually 68,410 the way that it works out.
[5:31:42]
But you'll be able to remove that from this year's budget,
[5:31:44]
which gives you a little bit of room
[5:31:46]
to do some other things that we're talking about.
[5:31:48]
All right.
[5:31:49]
So that's the First Amendment would be to remove that
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line, the second one and working with Mr.
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Arsenal and looking for any savings that we can find,
[5:32:02]
we determined that
[5:32:04]
while we have this five year cyclical replacement plan for student
[5:32:08]
and staff technology devices, there's one grade level
[5:32:14]
currently,
[5:32:17]
these are seventh grade iPads
[5:32:19]
which were scheduled to go to second grade next year or to be replaced.
[5:32:24]
But there are 2024 iPad.
[5:32:26]
So we can we can delay the purchase of those for one year.
[5:32:31]
Saves you another $15,000.
[5:32:35]
So you've now got savings up, you know, over $80,000.
[5:32:39]
Members of the school committee have expressed their interest
[5:32:43]
in reinstating a point five FTE full time equivalent.
[5:32:49]
Teacher at the high school
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that would come at a cost of $52,610.
[5:33:00]
While you've expressed interest in reinstating that,
[5:33:02]
you have stated to the administration and to the high school
[5:33:07]
that you would like to see an intentional plan for increasing
[5:33:12]
interest and enrollment and subscription in those courses, which are,
[5:33:17]
significantly under subscribed at this time.
[5:33:22]
And we've already begun that work.
[5:33:24]
We actually met with SMC today
[5:33:28]
and identified two of the classes that we offer,
[5:33:31]
CAD and architectural Design, as being courses
[5:33:37]
for which they would be very interested in offering dual credit.
[5:33:41]
So that's one significant step that could,
[5:33:44]
encourage more students to enroll in those courses.
[5:33:48]
Another step will be to, conduct
[5:33:52]
an interest survey for students to see if there are other courses
[5:33:55]
that might be offered that would generate, more subscriptions.
[5:33:59]
So that would be an increase to the budget
[5:34:03]
that would offset some of the decreases that I'm proposing.
[5:34:09]
The fourth
[5:34:10]
item that you need to be continue to be aware of
[5:34:14]
is that we do not yet have our health
[5:34:17]
insurance premiums for the coming year.
[5:34:20]
We project those at a 10% increase every year.
[5:34:26]
In the 12 years that I've been here,
[5:34:28]
we've had savings in that line.
[5:34:31]
Each year because our health insurance
[5:34:35]
premiums have come in at a lower
[5:34:38]
increase than 10%.
[5:34:41]
They've been up around eight.
[5:34:42]
Sometimes they've been over ten.
[5:34:46]
The timeline never works with our budget process,
[5:34:50]
because we have to approve the budget now,
[5:34:52]
and we have to get it to the council
[5:34:55]
at the first meeting.
[5:34:56]
At their first meeting in April.
[5:35:00]
At the end of this month,
[5:35:02]
we've been told by anthem we will be
[5:35:05]
given the state wide ranges.
[5:35:09]
Remember, each school district has its own health insurance rates.
[5:35:15]
And anthem will tell us at the end of this month
[5:35:18]
the increases or the adjustments are going to be somewhere
[5:35:22]
between 2% and 11%.
[5:35:27]
If they say that, if they give us those numbers two and 11,
[5:35:30]
I'm going to feel pretty good about our 10% projection
[5:35:35]
because our use rate
[5:35:39]
is is right in the middle.
[5:35:41]
It's right around 100%.
[5:35:43]
So I would feel good about that if they come to us in a couple of weeks
[5:35:47]
and say the increases are going to be somewhere between 7 and 16.
[5:35:53]
Now, you know, we're we're on the edge.
[5:35:57]
At some point
[5:36:01]
in mid-April, we get our actual number.
[5:36:04]
So first they release the range, then a couple weeks later
[5:36:07]
they give you your actual number.
[5:36:08]
So we just have to be prepared for that.
[5:36:12]
On the
[5:36:12]
on the good side, if we've budgeted too much at 10%,
[5:36:16]
you have an opportunity, as we've done every year,
[5:36:20]
to go back to the council and say
[5:36:23]
we are able to reduce our budget by a certain amount,
[5:36:28]
if the number comes in higher than 10%,
[5:36:34]
there are obviously two options.
[5:36:37]
The council may say
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your budget is your budget, figure it out,
[5:36:42]
and we would have to go in and reduce our budget by the corresponding amount
[5:36:47]
or the council may say upon your request,
[5:36:54]
we need to increase the budget by $32,000 or whatever it may be.
[5:36:58]
So that piece, we still have to hold on,
[5:37:01]
but I'm recommending this evening that we
[5:37:05]
alter our, turf field funding plan,
[5:37:10]
that we remove one
[5:37:13]
grade of technology, devices
[5:37:16]
from the replacement cycle in 26, 27
[5:37:20]
that we reinstate the point five Stem teacher at the high school.
[5:37:29]
48 hours ago,
[5:37:31]
this would have been a very clean proposal, because I could have told you
[5:37:36]
exactly what number
[5:37:38]
that you needed to be at the laptop.
[5:37:42]
Confusion is
[5:37:45]
is going to make this more complicated
[5:37:49]
if you want to have,
[5:37:51]
which is probably the the recommended approach,
[5:37:54]
if you want to have the flexibility
[5:37:57]
to determine later
[5:38:00]
what technology devices you want to purchase for the high school,
[5:38:04]
then your motion this evening would be to approve for a second
[5:38:07]
reading the proposed FY 27 budget
[5:38:12]
in the amount of $44,212,213,
[5:38:19]
which is a 4.65%
[5:38:23]
increase over the current year
[5:38:26]
and impact to the taxpayer.
[5:38:32]
Hang on 3%.
[5:38:36]
Of 3.14%,
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that is $46 on every 100,000 of valuation.
[5:38:52]
I just want to add one more piece
[5:38:54]
of information for you, because I think it's important to note that
[5:39:00]
you'd be looking at a 4.65%
[5:39:02]
increase on the budget.
[5:39:07]
In a survey of my colleagues
[5:39:09]
around Cumberland County.
[5:39:13]
The budget
[5:39:14]
increases in their districts run anywhere
[5:39:17]
there is one lower than ours.
[5:39:21]
The others run anywhere from 6.3%
[5:39:24]
to 9.9% increases.
[5:39:29]
Some of them you're reading in the paper while
[5:39:33]
dealing with an 8% increase are also cutting
[5:39:36]
dozens of teaching positions.
[5:39:39]
So I feel very good about the position that we are in where with this change,
[5:39:44]
we would be talking essentially about
[5:39:48]
reducing district wide
[5:39:51]
one edtech position at the high school
[5:39:55]
that works with multilingual learners, and that is because
[5:39:59]
our numbers in multilingual learners have dropped precipitously.
[5:40:03]
And we still have three full time teachers for that program.
[5:40:06]
We're just removing the edtech.
[5:40:08]
So we we definitely have the capacity to meet the need.
[5:40:12]
There.
[5:40:15]
I turn it over to you folks for your questions,
[5:40:17]
and then I think, to turn it over to the public for their comments.
[5:40:20]
Let me just clarify.
[5:40:21]
Do we need a motion to discuss?
[5:40:23]
I don't I wouldn't go to a motion yet because you want to have public
[5:40:27]
comment, right?
[5:40:28]
And you can't have public comment after you have a motion on the table.
[5:40:31]
Okay. Thank you.
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So the this is a time for specific questions for you.
[5:40:35]
And then we will go to public comment.
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Michael, I just I want to make it clear in my mind
[5:40:40]
and other people's mind when you're talking about that.
[5:40:43]
212 200 and 212,000,213 44 million
[5:40:50]
was that 44,212,000, $13,
[5:40:55]
212 million.
[5:40:57]
It's like it's a pretty big difference.
[5:40:59]
If you wanted to make sure that was clear to everybody.
[5:41:02]
People just fell off of Chair School 412.
[5:41:06]
I'm looking at your numbers.
[5:41:08]
Look at what I had carried down. I was looking at the difference.
[5:41:13]
That does
[5:41:13]
include restoring that standard position to full time. Yes.
[5:41:17]
Okay. Thank you.
[5:41:18]
And did you have a question or.
[5:41:20]
No. No, I just wanted to clarify the correct number.
[5:41:24]
Okay.
[5:41:25]
Yes. That that number includes
[5:41:27]
all of the changes that I've recommended this evening.
[5:41:31]
Sarah, I just make a comment and, I know of appreciation
[5:41:35]
for all of the community feedback we received on the Stem position.
[5:41:41]
We heard from students and staff,
[5:41:44]
probably the most emails we've really received all year.
[5:41:48]
So I do want to note that the school committee and the finance
[5:41:52]
Committee really took this to heart and had some in-depth conversations about,
[5:41:58]
you know, the original reason that that position
[5:42:02]
was proposed to be eliminated and it was strictly based on enrollment,
[5:42:08]
I think really taking a hard look at the enrollment,
[5:42:12]
but also looking at the interest was a big point of discussion.
[5:42:17]
So interest in enrollment, two different things.
[5:42:19]
I think the feedback we were getting
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and the conversations we were having with Doctor Hartnett,
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and others really suggested that, hey, there are students who want to sign up
[5:42:30]
but aren't able to find space in their schedule
[5:42:34]
in consideration of meeting all of their requirements.
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And that's why, Doctor Dolf and Doctor Hartnett, you know, have done
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the work and are continuing to do the work to look at how to increase enrollment,
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by looking at various options that he's already highlighted.
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And I think it's, you know, it is important that we're looking at this
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on balance of, you know, comments also from
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putting more money into technology while cutting staff.
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Well, we're, you know, we're coming to the table
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and really considering them both together.
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Because we do value
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staff, we value the position and the program.
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And also, I think a lot of the discussion too, was looking at
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the the
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interest that's coming up from the lower grades
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and the investment that's been made in Stem programing there.
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And the kids that had started that
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when the program was initiated are just about to hit the high school.
[5:43:37]
So another piece is perhaps enrollment will look different when we see this
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bolus of kids coming into the high school and we see the robotics interest,
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we see the interest and the excitement for Stem programing in the lower grades.
[5:43:53]
And that could also make a change in terms of enrollment.
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It's you know, we can't we don't have a magic eight ball.
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But that's likely.
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So just noting that there has been a lot of consideration
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of sort of the mechanics, the logistics, the trends, what's coming
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as well as as feedback from across the board.
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Go to Elise and then Linnea.
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I, I'm hearing what you guys are saying, and I understand the desire
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to have the halftime Stem teacher come back to being a full time teacher.
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But my question is, if we are seeing that there is very low
[5:44:26]
demand for a lot of these classes, I've heard of classes
[5:44:28]
that have one student, classes that have like 3 or 4.
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That's really not enough to justify this.
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And my question is,
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why are we not using this if we're willing to add them back into the budget?
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Why are we not using this to add a halftime teacher for an AP class,
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that there is demand for it, just to name a couple off the top of my head?
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Microeconomics, macroeconomics?
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AP government, AP Human Geography.
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There's a lot of classes that we don't offer that I think
[5:44:53]
there is much more demand for than like a Stem class, which,
[5:44:57]
while important, has maybe 3 or 4 people signed up for it.
[5:45:00]
So I was just wondering why we're doing one or the other.
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Thank you. And I,
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I would just like to second that.
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I know that a lot of my peers are taking classes online,
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because we don't offer them, but that's not what I wanted to say.
[5:45:15]
Well, it's very true.
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Also, I just wanted to mention that we recently approved,
[5:45:22]
a, the policy to, increase
[5:45:26]
the amount of requirements for credits for graduation.
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I think that that will likely result in people taking more extracurricular,
[5:45:36]
not extracurricular, elective classes.
[5:45:39]
So I think that we might see an increased,
[5:45:43]
enrollment in those Stem classes as well.
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Just because students are forced to and then, you know,
[5:45:51]
maybe they discover an interest or a passion and they keep going.
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Yeah.
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So perhaps we will pause
[5:46:02]
and return to our second public comment period of the evening.
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And this is an opportunity, if anyone present would like to address us
[5:46:09]
specifically about the budget and what we've just heard in terms
[5:46:12]
of the latest proposal, same rules apply up to three minutes to speak.
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And if you want to share something, please come up to the podium
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and start by sharing your name and your connection to the, the schools.
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That's Tom, I'm sure.
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My name is Michelle Dietz.
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My children are Evan Eliana Goldman.
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They are.
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I guess I'm supposed to give my address, 26 Ryan Drive.
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They are in sophomore and senior year.
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I was preparing for this, and my daughter put it best.
[5:46:49]
She said, mom, there's nothing more valuable than investing in a teacher.
[5:46:54]
In most of these discussions, I hear concern and desire
[5:46:57]
to support students in developing skills and interest for the workforce.
[5:47:01]
As a matter of fact, it came up in the survey around the laptops.
[5:47:05]
People said,
[5:47:06]
If I'm going to switch to an iPad, will I still develop skills for the workforce?
[5:47:10]
So it's it's obviously coming up frequently,
[5:47:12]
but the outcomes do not seem to align with this motivation.
[5:47:16]
Science, Stem, computer science and math are going to be important
[5:47:19]
foundational elements
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in all children, for our children, in all walks of life, in their careers.
[5:47:24]
The content is incredibly important.
[5:47:26]
If we want our kids to try out the areas that might lead to career passions,
[5:47:31]
they need to.
[5:47:31]
They need exposure to skills of the future.
[5:47:34]
Instead, we have potentially sacrificed the content for the tools,
[5:47:38]
as maintaining MacBooks is a big budget expense.
[5:47:42]
As Linnea commented in prior meetings, students use iPads now
[5:47:46]
in environments such as apps and cities.
[5:47:49]
And as Michael reiterated,
[5:47:50]
the software platform would remain the same regardless of the tool.
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We are so fortunate to have access to
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excellent computer science and Stem education.
[5:48:00]
Having watched my younger daughter in Python class
[5:48:03]
where the hands on education helped her dive into a new field,
[5:48:06]
I am concerned that a shift to virtual education, as Mr.
[5:48:10]
Hartnett recommended, or a self-driven approach, would not be adequate.
[5:48:14]
I've tried to learn Python myself, online.
[5:48:17]
It's really hard.
[5:48:17]
And I actually switched to an in-person class.
[5:48:20]
New leadership initiatives like campus demonstrate
[5:48:23]
that there is energy for career and skill development.
[5:48:26]
What are we doing to continue that thread through the curriculum?
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It seems we have presumed that we should come in lower
[5:48:32]
than a roll forward because we think the tax burden will be too high.
[5:48:36]
But as said in prior documentation on a $500,000 house,
[5:48:40]
a 4% increase is estimated to be $215.
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With such a household tolerating an additional 0.5% for computer science
[5:48:48]
or Stem career foundations, I think that equates to under $50.
[5:48:53]
For context, Falmouth is introducing iPads and has focused
[5:48:57]
its budget increase at 6% on staff investments.
[5:49:01]
And as was talked about in prior budget conversations,
[5:49:03]
Ta and Gorham have also already switched to iPads.
[5:49:07]
It is a time to be careful and prudent.
[5:49:10]
We have a leadership transition.
[5:49:12]
Our leadership has made tremendous contributions,
[5:49:14]
but in any leadership transition, it's really important to be careful.
[5:49:20]
We're losing a fair amount of math and science tenure as well.
[5:49:23]
This is my iPad.
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It has a keyboard.
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I've used it in two academic institutions, in graduate classes.
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It's actually six years old.
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I'm pretty frugal.
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I've had no reason to replace it. I actually love it.
[5:49:37]
I travel with it.
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So that's our not so subtle.
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Sorry. That's a loud timer.
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I'm sorry.
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Mean she's allowed, you know, I'm sorry about that.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for your comments.
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We welcome others that would like to address us.
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Turn it down a little more subtle.
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Well.
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Probably.
[5:50:11]
Hello.
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My name is Adler Goodwin. I am a sophomore.
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I am on team Voyager, on the robotics team, and,
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I live 364 Davis Street.
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When I first moved to Yarmouth in the fifth grade,
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I did not know what to expect.
[5:50:28]
Everything was new, and I was still trying to figure out where I belonged.
[5:50:31]
That changed when I found robotics.
[5:50:33]
Since I joined robotics in sixth grade, it's become a huge part of who I am
[5:50:39]
because of this program, because the teachers, parents and students
[5:50:42]
who have worked so hard to build it, I have had the opportunity to compete
[5:50:46]
with teams across the state, New England and the rest of the world.
[5:50:51]
But more importantly, robotics has helped me find my people,
[5:50:54]
the community of students who share the same curiosity, creativity
[5:50:57]
and passion for building and problem solving
[5:51:01]
through robotics.
[5:51:02]
I've also just discovered what I want to do in the future.
[5:51:05]
I want to be an engineer.
[5:51:06]
Vex has taught me what it truly means to think like one.
[5:51:09]
Design test, fail, but keep pushing forward.
[5:51:13]
It has shown me that engineering is not just about machines,
[5:51:15]
but it's about teamwork, collaboration, and persistence.
[5:51:18]
The applications are simply limitless.
[5:51:21]
But right now, our entire technology program hangs in the balance.
[5:51:24]
As the world moves forward, technology will only grow in importance, and schools
[5:51:27]
play a critical role in preparing students for the future.
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At a time when technology is present in every industry,
[5:51:35]
this is the worst time to be cutting this program.
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Those classes matter.
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Over the years, I've signed up for four of them,
[5:51:41]
but I've only been able to take one so far due to scheduling conflicts.
[5:51:45]
I plan to take others, and it'll be incredibly disappointing
[5:51:48]
to see those opportunities vanish for me and other students who come after me,
[5:51:52]
this is something very meaningful here.
[5:51:54]
It is not just a class or a club or an activity is a place
[5:51:58]
where students can discover their interests,
[5:51:59]
challenge themselves, and build skills that will last a lifetime.
[5:52:03]
I hope the value of this program and the impact it has on students
[5:52:06]
like me, is taken seriously.
[5:52:10]
Thank you very much.
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Oh, I'm Nat Bessey, 59 Winding Way.
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I'm a parent of two kids in seventh grade and ninth grade in the schools.
[5:52:33]
Echoing one of my fellow citizens, I do want to start by just thanking
[5:52:37]
the school committee for this difficult job that you do and Doctor
[5:52:40]
Dola, for many years of great leadership, we've been very fortunate.
[5:52:44]
I came here today with the intention of speaking in support
[5:52:47]
of the Restoring the Point five, position for Stem.
[5:52:53]
I appreciate that is now under consideration.
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I strongly urge the school committee to go forward in that regard.
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I think it's a very valuable,
[5:53:01]
very valuable area.
[5:53:02]
It's an area of the future. One we've identified.
[5:53:04]
Yarmouth has has brought forward the Stem endorsement
[5:53:09]
now at the high school, which
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is going to be very difficult to satisfy if you don't have the Stem classes.
[5:53:13]
And there simply is no substitute for in-person education in these areas.
[5:53:17]
I know budget discussions.
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We're talking about about positions and not people.
[5:53:21]
So I'm not going to talk about any individuals, but it is a,
[5:53:25]
you know, to, to make a, to reduce a position
[5:53:28]
from full time to a half time, it's very likely
[5:53:31]
that you're going to have also have to replace whoever's in that position.
[5:53:34]
And I just think that in the long term,
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it's important to have the vision to support a program long term
[5:53:40]
and maintain the strength that we have already in the district.
[5:53:44]
Thank you very much.
[5:53:45]
Thank you.
[5:53:55]
Hi. My name is Iva Goldman.
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I'm a sophomore at Yarmouth High School and I live at 26 Ryan Drive.
[5:54:01]
My mom just spoke.
[5:54:02]
I was not a person that was particularly interested
[5:54:06]
in computer science or, workshops that happened with Mr.
[5:54:13]
Pittman in Stem.
[5:54:14]
Last year, I, enrolled in programing in Python
[5:54:19]
because I had to fulfill a class for the Stem endorsement,
[5:54:23]
and it wasn't a class I would take otherwise.
[5:54:25]
And I'm so glad that I did.
[5:54:28]
Not only did I learn a skill that I never would have learned before,
[5:54:31]
I also brought skills like, critical thinking and problem solving with me
[5:54:36]
to other parts of my life from that class, and it was such a great opportunity.
[5:54:41]
I have not personally taken,
[5:54:43]
any other Stem classes because they didn't fit into my schedule
[5:54:47]
and weren't particularly a priority for me, but my freshman year I did it.
[5:54:51]
Yellow. It was to build a aquaponic system.
[5:54:55]
And Mr.
[5:54:56]
Pittman, the Stem teacher, was such a resource and so helpful in that project.
[5:55:03]
I had never done anything like it.
[5:55:05]
And he was so helpful.
[5:55:07]
He was not my ELO, advisor.
[5:55:10]
I was not his student.
[5:55:12]
But he helped me through all of my problems and all of my,
[5:55:16]
frustrations with that project because it was really frustrating.
[5:55:20]
But I completed it.
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I could not have done it without those resources.
[5:55:24]
And I think those teachers are so invaluable to our school,
[5:55:27]
and I'd be really sad to see them go.
[5:55:29]
Thank you. Thank you very much.
[5:55:38]
Hi, I'm Jenny Carlisle, 53 Martin Road.
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I'm the parent to three Yarmouth students and fourth, sixth and ninth grade
[5:55:47]
and also a founding member of the Yarmouth Steam Boosters, which is a nonprofit
[5:55:52]
to, support steam programing.
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In the Army schools outside of what the schools are supporting.
[5:56:00]
And I came here today to urge you not to cut the, the full time,
[5:56:06]
tech position to 0.5, which, I'm happy to hear
[5:56:10]
is now under consideration.
[5:56:13]
I was disappointed listening
[5:56:15]
to the school committee budget meetings about, when I saw the lack
[5:56:21]
of conversation about the implications of that potential cut.
[5:56:25]
And so I wanted to speak to that.
[5:56:27]
Now, these aren't just tech classes.
[5:56:30]
These are classes like build a guitar.
[5:56:33]
Intro to engineering, electric car design,
[5:56:36]
entrepreneurship and design process, architectural design outside of the box.
[5:56:41]
These are really cool, interesting classes that are designed to appeal
[5:56:45]
to a lot of kids.
[5:56:47]
These aren't, you know, just just for the robotics kids.
[5:56:50]
These are these are far reaching.
[5:56:52]
And what we'd be losing if we lost these classes is we'd be
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not only we'd be losing the essential skill building,
[5:56:59]
you know, the the the skills that the kids are learning in these classes.
[5:57:03]
But we'd be learning the mentorship and we'd be losing the the sense
[5:57:07]
of community that that we're hearing the kids speak to today.
[5:57:11]
We'd be taking away from their sense of belonging,
[5:57:15]
when we take away the classes, that are especially appealing to them.
[5:57:20]
And this would be devastating to the kids.
[5:57:23]
A year ago,
[5:57:24]
when I was looking at the course catalog with my my rising ninth grader,
[5:57:28]
I said to him, you're in the right place at the right time.
[5:57:32]
When I saw those pages on the Stem offerings, they were so,
[5:57:38]
perfect for him and so
[5:57:39]
totally different than anything that I saw in my high school course catalog.
[5:57:44]
And, it was disheartening how quickly it seems like that could have changed.
[5:57:51]
And so I came to you today to urge you, to
[5:57:56]
to try to, you know, please maintain those courses,
[5:58:00]
so that Yarmouth continues to be the right place for all of our kids.
[5:58:04]
And in fact, I, I think we shouldn't be here talking today about
[5:58:09]
how do we maintain the current Stem offerings.
[5:58:13]
We should be really pushing this to the next level.
[5:58:15]
Right?
[5:58:15]
Like the we should be talking about how can we increase,
[5:58:20]
stem, how can we improve Stem?
[5:58:23]
And, I won't get into it now,
[5:58:25]
but that your Mustang boosters, we've got some suggestions for you.
[5:58:30]
Thank you.
[5:58:31]
We will look forward to that in the future.
[5:58:32]
Thank you.
[5:58:39]
Hello.
[5:58:40]
My name is Mary Gallaudet.
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I live at 423 Gilman Road and my kids are much younger,
[5:58:45]
so I want to sort of speak from that point of view for a second.
[5:58:49]
Whenever there's a Steam night or a robotics tournament.
[5:58:51]
They are so excited to see these kids over here
[5:58:55]
and the things that they're doing.
[5:58:56]
I want to consider here that we have representation
[5:59:00]
in our older students, for our younger students who are coming up
[5:59:03]
and feeling like a little bit different than the kids around them,
[5:59:06]
if we lose that representation because there isn't a community
[5:59:09]
for them to come into, it's going to be a very hard.
[5:59:12]
It's going to be a hard land in middle school,
[5:59:13]
which is already a hard time developmentally.
[5:59:16]
So I just wanted to sort of hold space for the kids who are looking forward
[5:59:19]
to be old enough
[5:59:20]
to have the chance to do the sorts of things
[5:59:22]
that they've been hearing about and seeing.
[5:59:24]
There are those kids. They are here.
[5:59:26]
I have a kid my own, who's at a different school,
[5:59:28]
who says he doesn't want to go to middle school anywhere else
[5:59:31]
because he can't wait to be part of the robotics.
[5:59:34]
It'll be a really hard sell to pull him back and see that gone.
[5:59:37]
So I just ask you to and I mean, you know, he's just my son.
[5:59:40]
There are plenty of other children that are looking up
[5:59:42]
and finding a community that they can belong to.
[5:59:45]
The mission statement is to empower all students
[5:59:47]
right to lead fulfilling lives in a changing world.
[5:59:50]
This is a real important subsection.
[5:59:52]
I think, of our community that we need to support and embrace and hold on to,
[5:59:56]
and they need to see a place where they can continue to excel.
[5:59:58]
So my wish would be that you all find a way
[6:00:00]
to lean into enriching the program, supporting all kinds of learners.
[6:00:05]
And I think the access that we give, the visibility
[6:00:07]
it has means that there are kids who might not self-identify as Stem
[6:00:11]
kids, whatever that means, you know, early on,
[6:00:12]
who then discover
[6:00:13]
a passion and an interest and a talent that they might not have come across
[6:00:16]
in another district.
[6:00:18]
So to lose the opportunity to be that kind of place
[6:00:21]
seems a shame to me, and I hope that you'll hold on to it.
[6:00:24]
Thank you. Thank you Mary.
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Good evening.
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My name is Adam Goodwin, 364 Bayview Street.
[6:00:34]
I had to do a little bit of self editing.
[6:00:36]
I was not aware that there was a three minute time limit.
[6:00:38]
And I've got about 20 minutes of.
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Anyway, I'm a Yarmouth Education Foundation board member and Yarmouth Steam
[6:00:46]
Boosters founding member, but I'm not here to talk on behalf of those groups.
[6:00:50]
I'm here to represent my two children.
[6:00:53]
I'd like who you heard from and Acadia, who are both extremely passionate
[6:00:57]
about science, arts,
[6:00:59]
engineering, math, and most relevant to tonight's discussion, technology.
[6:01:03]
I brought a little show and tell with me.
[6:01:05]
It's behind me. It's, photo.
[6:01:07]
My kids are standing among their peers at the Maine State Robotics Championship
[6:01:11]
that we heard about earlier.
[6:01:13]
There are more than 65 students represented in that photo.
[6:01:16]
But, across five grades, 5 to 12,
[6:01:19]
more than 100 students in Yarmouth, participated in robotics this year.
[6:01:24]
Robotics truly represents an amazing intersection
[6:01:27]
of Steam disciplines, and this is where I have to make a big edit.
[6:01:30]
So forgive me.
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Really, what we're talking about with the technology program is much more,
[6:01:36]
as the previous speaker alluded to, than just robotics.
[6:01:40]
It really represents kind of what
[6:01:43]
was when I was growing up referred to as shop class.
[6:01:47]
It's a real hands on, discipline where you're learning to use machines and tools.
[6:01:52]
And I'm going to skip ahead because I'm getting a little out of order.
[6:01:55]
But we live in a time when AI and automation is rapidly changing the future.
[6:02:03]
And white collar work,
[6:02:04]
may change very drastically in the future,
[6:02:08]
but what will remain are the skilled trades.
[6:02:12]
They will remain a rock foundation of our economy.
[6:02:15]
So electricians, mechanics, robotics technicians, yes.
[6:02:18]
But welders,
[6:02:19]
these are the things that will continue
[6:02:21]
to be the backbone of the 21st century workforce.
[6:02:23]
And those careers, they begin in courses like the technology course
[6:02:27]
we have here at the high school.
[6:02:30]
We also need to, talk about the reality of our labor market here in Maine.
[6:02:34]
We're in a high need crisis for technical educators.
[6:02:37]
Data from the Maine Department of Education shows that finding
[6:02:41]
high quality and, highly qualified and energetic technologies
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instructors are already a massive challenge, and finding one
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to come in and accept a 0.5 FTE position because it is very likely
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we will lose the one has not indicated if we,
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if we lowered it to a point five,
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finding somebody to come in at half time is nearly impossible.
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So, we find we could find ourselves, you know, in the near term,
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with an empty shop class, and a dead technology program by next fall.
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So I'm encouraged by the direction of the conversation tonight.
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And I encourage you to keep the position that one fte.
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Thank you.
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With 10s to spare.
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Those could and thank you for your comments.
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You're always welcome to email the rest of us later. Yes.
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Talk. Hi.
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My name is Cecilia.
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I live at 78 village Brook road.
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I'm a sophomore, and I'm part of the Stem endorsement.
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This is a new program.
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I'm not sure if you all know about it, but it's for students who would like to have
[6:03:52]
more opportunities in science and math related fields.
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One of the requirements for this program is to take classes
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in engineering and technology
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to kind of just expand your learning and go across all the areas of Stem.
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Just because I feel like in our usual classes, it's usually just science
[6:04:08]
and math, but this is kind of like an opportunity to expand into that.
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And, most of these classes are taught by our current Stem teacher, Mr.
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Pittman.
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And I'm very concerned that if his position is reduced,
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a lot of these classes will go away.
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In my junior and senior year, I know that I want to take classes
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like entrepreneurship and design, architecture.
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Python, like even mentioned, because I've heard a lot about them,
[6:04:35]
and I wasn't super interested in them in my freshman year.
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But now that I'm involved in the Stem endorsement, I really
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learned more about them,
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and I feel like I can appreciate what they mean to other students.
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And I think that they are kind of becoming something
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that I'm pretty passionate about.
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So I really hope that we have the opportunity
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to keep these courses so I can take them in the future.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for being here.
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Hello, I'm
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Max, I'm a sophomore at, 20 Clippy circle.
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I'd like to bring up the point that nobody talks about yet
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with the half time steam teacher position.
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Is that
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not only does he teach important classes, but he's also an important resource
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inside the school. There's been,
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even though I haven't had the
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space in my schedule to take his classes, even though I've signed up for him,
[6:05:43]
I've still come to him with a bunch of different projects
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that I've needed his help with and
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the most recent one that I can think of is building a treehouse
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for Spirit Week, and he just helps with that.
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I think of his position almost like a librarian, where it's
[6:05:59]
not just the classes he teaches, but also the resources and help
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that he gives to students that need it.
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Yes. That's all.
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Thanks, man.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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People really like Mr..
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Bob Zimmerman from 65 Center street.
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I have a daughter in high school, and,
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she would be the first to tell you I'm not qualified to be up here right now
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speaking about the differences between computers
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and iPads, but,
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I feel like I was disqualified, when the survey came to me
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and I was trying to compare
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the value to utility, usability and value.
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Not just in a dollar
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sense, but, you know, to how I want to learn
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between an iPad and a MacBook.
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I hadn't touched an iPad probably for 7 to 10 years.
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And, so I think you were asking the wrong person.
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And I would say I'm probably one of the older parents,
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so I probably don't represent the median
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person surveyed, but I'm probably not
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so far from a lot of people that you, you ask
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to opine about whether to have a laptop or an iPad.
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And if we have an expert in the room who says
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you're advisor, right.
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I think an iPad is a great idea.
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And, not just budgetary, but
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for all its, you know, utility.
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That's kind of the guy I would listen to instead of me.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Bob.
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Thank you.
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And I'm Julian Lampson, the plume, junior at the high school.
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I am, regrettably, not a resident of this town.
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I'm here to talk about why I believe it would be a mistake
[6:08:05]
to cut the technology position in half to half time.
[6:08:08]
First, as a member of the robotics club, the loss of the guidance
[6:08:11]
and mentorship from a dedicated Stem teacher would be insurmountable.
[6:08:15]
Not only would a full time Stem teacher always be there to teach us
[6:08:19]
how to use a tool in the shop, or give it advice
[6:08:21]
and the best way to approach a problem, but they'd also be able to give us
[6:08:24]
those extra hours in the lab to work and achieve our goals.
[6:08:27]
That competition.
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But robotics
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students aren't the only students who rely on a full time Stem teacher.
[6:08:34]
The Stem classroom and shop are places where students go
[6:08:37]
during flex lunch, study halls, and after school to work on projects.
[6:08:42]
If the Stem teacher position is cut in half,
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the students will not have the opportunity to experiment,
[6:08:48]
learn, or grow skills they wouldn't otherwise have the opportunity to explore.
[6:08:52]
Cutting with demolition and half means fewer chances for students to learn skills
[6:08:56]
that may lead to them creating fulfilling lives in a changing world.
[6:09:00]
Stem education is incredibly important for the future.
[6:09:04]
Technology and engineering are the fastest growing fields right now, projected
[6:09:07]
to grow 11% compared to 5% of other fields that are non-stem related.
[6:09:12]
At a minimum, the schools should be keeping
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these programs the same, not cutting them
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on a more personal level outside of robotics.
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In my sophomore year, I was really unsure about what I was interested in.
[6:09:23]
I'd been considering things like mechanical engineering or physics
[6:09:25]
or computer science had some options to discover what I wanted better.
[6:09:30]
I signed up for the architecture course, where I learned not only how to draft
[6:09:34]
and had houses or sheds,
[6:09:35]
but got the opportunity to physically make them and build them myself.
[6:09:39]
And after taking that class, I decided
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I was pretty committed to becoming a mechanical engineer in the future.
[6:09:44]
And finally, on a more pragmatic note,
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cutting the position to half time will attract less qualified candidates.
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Well, Yarmouth no doubt has one of the best hiring processes in the state.
[6:09:55]
More qualified individuals for the role of a Stem teacher
[6:09:58]
will be less likely to apply for a part time position.
[6:10:01]
This will most likely lead to a smaller pool of applicants
[6:10:04]
who are less qualified and experienced for the job.
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For the sake of robotics, student innovation, discovery,
[6:10:09]
and the future of Stem at our school, I urge you not to reduce the position.
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Thank you.
[6:10:14]
Thank you very much.
[6:10:14]
Thanks, Julie.
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Bucketload.
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My name is Cassandra Baker.
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I live at seven Bittersweet Circle here in Yarmouth.
[6:10:27]
And, just a couple of comments.
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My own experience with, Mr.
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Pitman has been he has been a profound resource for people in my household,
[6:10:37]
regardless of if they go into engineering or not.
[6:10:40]
I really do feel like when we are cutting positions for human beings
[6:10:45]
and our teachers, who are such amazingly dedicated individuals in our community,
[6:10:49]
it taking somebody who's a full FTE to a 0.5 FTE is one way
[6:10:54]
that we take advantage of people in a way that's a little bit inhumane.
[6:10:59]
Their benefits go down.
[6:11:01]
They're not shown to be given the,
[6:11:05]
the appreciation that they deserve for the hard effort that they put forward
[6:11:09]
for our community of students who love them so much.
[6:11:12]
And so I, you know, I, I really
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just fundamentally, I think that putting teachers at 0.5 ft
[6:11:19]
should be avoided whenever possible because they dedicate so much time
[6:11:22]
outside of just their class time and their production
[6:11:26]
of their curricula, that this is something that should be avoided.
[6:11:29]
Often.
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But also, I do, you know, counter to,
[6:11:35]
sometimes what we think about with the budget in percentage
[6:11:38]
marks and small percentage increases and how they aren't that big of an increase.
[6:11:43]
Our current a economy at this point,
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I think it's a smart thing in our community to be really thoughtful
[6:11:51]
about the fact that every percentage, every point, oh 1% increase in the budget
[6:11:56]
is going to increase the likelihood that this budget will not be approved.
[6:12:02]
I think after last year's process
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and what happened at the end of that process
[6:12:06]
and the way that people looked back on that, we really need
[6:12:10]
to be thinking about cutting dollars for this, this budget.
[6:12:14]
And I don't want to be the armchair budget person who is coming in
[6:12:17]
at the end of your process, because obviously you guys are almost,
[6:12:20]
done with this. But,
[6:12:26]
those
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I really appreciate the input about the technology.
[6:12:30]
And I know even in my household,
[6:12:31]
the discussions around the iPads versus the laptops
[6:12:35]
was very emotional and very much about what
[6:12:38]
the student representatives were talking about.
[6:12:40]
But there's, it sounds like there's a lot of great reasons
[6:12:43]
to think about considering change, even though change is hard,
[6:12:46]
if change is cheaper and we don't need every student
[6:12:50]
in our schools to be having the shiniest, fastest technology every year.
[6:12:56]
Even though technology agencies and businesses will tell us
[6:12:59]
that every single year, we don't need to have all of that.
[6:13:02]
We need to have great teachers, and we need to have the
[6:13:08]
areas of the school
[6:13:09]
that need technology that's really high tech,
[6:13:13]
like the Stem areas they need to have great technology,
[6:13:18]
but every student in the school does not need to have the best technology.
[6:13:23]
They can have a five year old iPad and I'm okay with that as parents.
[6:13:28]
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
[6:13:33]
Come to your crazy online.
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I turned it off.
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During.
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My name is Stan Van on.
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I live on 71 West Main Street.
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I have a ninth grader who's been in robotics for four years, and,
[6:13:48]
is doing the Stem endorsement and excited about taking the Stem electives.
[6:13:54]
Very encouraged to hear that you're considering restoring that,
[6:14:00]
tech position to a full time, status.
[6:14:04]
I guess I just want to give you some bigger picture perspective on this
[6:14:08]
and your role here on the community, Yarmouth Education Foundation
[6:14:13]
and certainly other, you know, past school committee members
[6:14:17]
have been trying to stoke demand for Stem in this community for quite some time.
[6:14:22]
You know, Yarmouth Education Foundation, there grants anywhere
[6:14:26]
from 55 to 85% of their grants go to Stem, Stem, programs every year.
[6:14:31]
And that has worked there.
[6:14:33]
As others have mentioned, there are 100 kids just in robotics.
[6:14:37]
That's like a whole grade of of kids just on a robotics team.
[6:14:42]
And then in addition to summer camps and other programs,
[6:14:46]
and now so you've had that amount of funding
[6:14:49]
and now you have other nonprofit groups like, Yarmouth,
[6:14:53]
like the Lions and the Rotary and Maine Community Foundation.
[6:14:58]
And now a lot of support from some of your biggest taxpayers
[6:15:02]
in town, Tyler Technologies,
[6:15:05]
bath savings, Swift Current,
[6:15:09]
Dugas Construction, Hancock Lumber,
[6:15:13]
Sebago technics, Trillium engineering, Brooks automotive, Maine.
[6:15:16]
Bass, Maine love water cask and pump.
[6:15:19]
It goes on and on and on.
[6:15:20]
So you have all of this wonderful funding and energy from folks in the community.
[6:15:26]
Well, now, with the loss of three experienced
[6:15:29]
math teachers and potentially cutting a Stem position,
[6:15:34]
what you don't have is this full time skilled educator human there.
[6:15:38]
And if you don't have that person, then you know,
[6:15:42]
all that funding and all that energy is just going to gather a lot of dust.
[6:15:45]
So we've really you play a really important role
[6:15:48]
in whatever decision you make here.
[6:15:50]
So you've heard these, all of these people speak so passionately
[6:15:54]
and I think as parents, you can understand how important it is
[6:16:01]
and how meaningful it is when your kids find something they love.
[6:16:05]
And it's just so amazing that the thing they love,
[6:16:09]
you know, is going to help them in a million ways moving forward.
[6:16:12]
I mean, robotics, Stem courses, it teaches them to try things
[6:16:17]
and do things hands on.
[6:16:19]
It teaches them to fail and try again, and it teaches them to lead
[6:16:23]
and work together.
[6:16:24]
So thanks for your consideration.
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Thank you, Mr..
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My name is Jack Crawford for the 134 annual.
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When I originally came here tonight,
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my intention was to urge you all
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to keep the full time Stem position.
[6:16:53]
It's just such a wonderful community that provides.
[6:16:57]
And I think it would be a great loss
[6:17:00]
if those cut, happy
[6:17:03]
that the conversations seem to be moving in the right direction.
[6:17:07]
I am, however, concerned about potentially replacing
[6:17:10]
your laptops with iPads for the upcoming years.
[6:17:14]
I know that there are potential benefits to iPads,
[6:17:18]
and that it would be foolish not to consider them.
[6:17:22]
But at the same time, Yarmouth
[6:17:24]
has always prided itself on being an intelligent, educated community
[6:17:29]
that likes to make the best decision that possibly can.
[6:17:34]
A survey was sent out with over 900 people.
[6:17:38]
I think responding overwhelmingly, they agreed do laptop.
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Well, I understand that there may be an iPad kids stigma or potentially
[6:17:49]
misconceptions.
[6:17:51]
I think that if we are presented with data showing
[6:17:54]
overwhelming support for laptops,
[6:17:57]
these are people who most likely
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understands both options and have made
[6:18:05]
an educated opinion on what they want.
[6:18:08]
And I think that as a town and school board,
[6:18:12]
we should
[6:18:15]
deeply consider what the community wants,
[6:18:17]
as well as what experts have put into our hands.
[6:18:22]
And I think that moving forward,
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if we do want
[6:18:27]
to make a decision about technology for next year,
[6:18:30]
laptops would probably be the better choice and also the choice
[6:18:35]
the town wants, then yeah, that's pretty much it.
[6:18:39]
Thank you very much.
[6:18:40]
Thank you.
[6:18:53]
Hello, my name is Finn.
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And I am a eighth grader in high school.
[6:18:58]
This year.
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And I'm pretty much the same as Jack.
[6:19:03]
And one good that we both came here to talk about the Stem position
[6:19:07]
at the high school, but, now I'm going to talk a little bit about laptops.
[6:19:12]
Since in, like I am in fifth grade,
[6:19:17]
we got my grade, got the iPads, and not very much.
[6:19:22]
And so I have experienced those as well as the laptops for the past three years.
[6:19:27]
And I have preferred the laptops by a lot.
[6:19:33]
So that opinion I feel like might be helpful
[6:19:37]
since I've been on both sides of it and used both.
[6:19:40]
And the laptops were definitely much more,
[6:19:43]
for put productivity.
[6:19:46]
They were very helpful, as well as just general,
[6:19:49]
ease of use.
[6:19:53]
Thanks, Finn.
[6:19:53]
Thank you.
[6:19:54]
Finn.
[6:20:01]
My name is no Van Allen.
[6:20:02]
I'm a freshman at Yarmouth High School.
[6:20:05]
So I just wanted to talk about,
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Yeah, I came in with the same intentions, as Jack and Finn.
[6:20:12]
I really support that Stem position.
[6:20:14]
It's been, really life changing, and it really affects me in my day to day
[6:20:18]
life.
[6:20:20]
I, you know, I think about and participate in robotics every day,
[6:20:25]
and, I take my intro to engineering class every other day,
[6:20:28]
which is really important, and it's provided me with a lot of skills,
[6:20:32]
you know, both online with, like, tools,
[6:20:35]
like Onshape for computer aided design.
[6:20:39]
And also physical things like using a drill press
[6:20:43]
or saw or working with metal or a laser cutter.
[6:20:48]
I also think that
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since Yarmouth is a district that provides it,
[6:20:54]
that prides itself with being innovative
[6:20:58]
and looking at the best technologies,
[6:21:03]
I've noticed and observed
[6:21:05]
a lot of students who have
[6:21:09]
expressed that they don't think that iPads
[6:21:13]
would be the best step forward.
[6:21:16]
I talked to some younger
[6:21:18]
students, in the fifth and sixth grades when I was volunteering at robotics,
[6:21:25]
and they said that their iPads were hard to use,
[6:21:29]
and that one student even said
[6:21:31]
that they had a 16 year old windows laptop
[6:21:34]
that they felt like was preferable to their iPad.
[6:21:38]
Now, I'm not saying that
[6:21:39]
that's a generalization that iPads are worse than MacBooks,
[6:21:43]
but I am saying that I think that we have a good system with MacBooks right now,
[6:21:48]
and I think that it would be a shame to lose that.
[6:21:51]
In regards to the budget.
[6:21:52]
I think the MacBook neo looks like it would be a great option
[6:21:56]
from what I've seen, and I've researched.
[6:21:59]
It looks like it has a very good price point and very good features.
[6:22:03]
That involves a lot of the career readiness
[6:22:07]
and typing factors that students like about laptops,
[6:22:11]
but also incorporates the budget factor of iPads.
[6:22:14]
So I hope you'll consider that. Thank you.
[6:22:17]
Thank you know, I thanks think, you know a.
[6:22:30]
Hi. Good evening.
[6:22:31]
Charlie Crawford, 134 Newell Road.
[6:22:33]
I have an eighth grader and a ninth grader, both heavily involved in robotics.
[6:22:38]
I just wanted to raise another point, about that, restoring that Stem position.
[6:22:44]
And I'm encouraged by where the
[6:22:46]
the direction of this conversation seems to be going.
[6:22:49]
I am a home health physical therapist, which means
[6:22:54]
my the average age of the people that I spend all day with is probably 75
[6:22:58]
and up, and probably a bit of a harder demographic to sell,
[6:23:02]
a school budget to, even if it's, about 5%.
[6:23:07]
You know, only about a 5% increase, give or take.
[6:23:10]
What that also means is Medicare
[6:23:12]
pays me to brag about my kids for an hour at a time.
[6:23:16]
To everyone I see.
[6:23:18]
And the overwhelming response,
[6:23:22]
from the people I treat and from the people I talk to
[6:23:25]
is everyone is so happy that this is a school district that
[6:23:31]
kids who might not have
[6:23:33]
that much interest in sports or theater, kids who are very kind of
[6:23:37]
academically and Stem focused, have extracurriculars
[6:23:41]
that involve competition and team
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building and problem solving.
[6:23:48]
They get all of the benefits that
[6:23:50]
the soccer teams do and that the football teams do.
[6:23:53]
And but they get it in their personal area of interest.
[6:23:58]
And it's it's just the response is tremendous.
[6:24:04]
Everyone is so happy to hear that Yarmuth gives this opportunity to these children.
[6:24:08]
So I'm very encouraged to hear where this conversation is going.
[6:24:12]
Thank you. Thank you. Charlie.
[6:24:15]
We may need to add a stipend for,
[6:24:19]
publicizing
[6:24:21]
efficiency of the arts, at least to the to the elderly community.
[6:24:26]
Hi, I'm Avery Crawford.
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I live at 134 Newell Road.
[6:24:30]
I'm an eighth grader at Yarmouth's middle school.
[6:24:33]
I've done robotics, all my years in middle school.
[6:24:37]
I really enjoyed it.
[6:24:38]
And I also think it's a great opportunity for our futures.
[6:24:42]
We learn so many skills, like in the engineering field, and also
[6:24:46]
shows social skills at competitions where some of you might not know this,
[6:24:50]
but we have to talk to alliance partners and say why
[6:24:53]
we should be part of their Alliance for competition,
[6:24:58]
which I think is a great skill for later in life.
[6:25:01]
I also think in relation to good skills later in life,
[6:25:05]
the laptops are way better for that, in my opinion,
[6:25:11]
because in a workforce you're not going to be using an iPad.
[6:25:15]
You are going to be using the laptop.
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And I think if we want to prepare students for,
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like later in
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life, then we should give them what they're using later in life.
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Also adding what Finn said,
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I have also used an iPad and a laptop.
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The laptop is way easier from school assignments.
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It's a lot easier to work with.
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And with robotics,
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it's also more, compatible with robotics
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because sometimes they've had Bluetooth issues with the robotics on the iPads.
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As of talk to younger grades.
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So, yeah.
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So I have to say thank you.
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Thanks, Avery.
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Hi. My name is Ryan. Q.
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I live at 186 Royal Point Road.
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I'm a junior at the high school, and I wanted to quickly point out
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there are some programs that you can't really run
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on iPads that I find very beneficial in the high school.
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And that's not just in the technology, department.
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I'm in the, robotics club, so stuff like coding and catting.
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So computer aided design, those things, we use like Onshape and VS code,
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which I think are less usable on iPads and the ability
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to go home and program that kind of stuff outside of school is very helpful.
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But also, I have interest in music,
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and I like to make music on a program called Ableton, Ableton Live.
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And I don't think that's available on iPads.
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And that would,
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that would kind of hurt my music
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creating, experience because I use my school laptop to do that.
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And I just wanted to point that out.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Ryan.
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Good evening, Tim Shannon again, 47 West Elm Street.
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I too have had to edit a little bit, but here goes.
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Members of the school committee, I urge you to oppose the reduction
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of teaching staff by one full time equivalent as the high school
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at the high school as originally proposed by the administration,
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and instead to move in the direction set forth by the ever
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excellent doctor off and perhaps go further.
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A point of clarification.
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My understanding was that with the proposal originally on the table
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was for 1.0 FTE reduction and an edtech reduction.
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If that is the case,
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I urge you to restore the full 1.0 FTE teaching staff
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and perhaps you can take that up during the Q&A amongst yourselves.
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By any standard, shrinking the faculty would be a step down,
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but it is especially alarming because it is part of a troubling trend
[6:28:29]
the steady chipping away of standards and aspirations in Yarmouth.
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We offer fewer apps than Cape,
[6:28:37]
fewer apps in Falmouth,
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far fewer apps than Scarborough.
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And we're about to cut fewer.
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We're about to have more rather,
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as I've talked to other parents, I've heard stories of kids struggling
[6:28:49]
to find sufficient challenging in-person classes,
[6:28:52]
including one family that pulled their daughter from the school
[6:28:55]
entirely, in part because the course offerings were, quote, too thin.
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Close quote their words, not mine.
[6:29:03]
6 or 7 kids this year had the grit to forage
[6:29:06]
for their own education and take AP macro online.
[6:29:11]
What about the other seven kids who are interested in macroeconomics
[6:29:14]
but can't bear the sterility of online classes?
[6:29:17]
What about the other seven kids whose home life is not conducive
[6:29:20]
to online learning?
[6:29:23]
There seems to be a powerful psychological
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or social pressure in Yarmouth to say that everything is all right.
[6:29:30]
The schools are fine.
[6:29:32]
Everything is not fine.
[6:29:35]
There's a bigger troubling trend here.
[6:29:38]
A smaller faculty not only limits stem.
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As we've discussed tonight, it not only limits existing
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and or potential apps, it limits other courses to.
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We live in a time of global turmoil.
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Falmouth offers a course in citizenship and society.
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We do not.
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We live in a time of institutional crisis.
[6:29:59]
Scarborough offers courses on patriotism, indifference and progress and power.
[6:30:04]
We do not.
[6:30:06]
We live in a time of AI and existential angst.
[6:30:09]
Cape Elizabeth offers a course in advanced philosophy.
[6:30:12]
We do not.
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Yet we are poised to shrink the faculty.
[6:30:16]
In short, this budget discussion is not just about denying
[6:30:19]
Stem kids classroom experience in favor of Covid or isolation.
[6:30:24]
It's about a broader problem.
[6:30:25]
It's about vision.
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Instead of maintaining a full roster of challenging courses,
[6:30:30]
helping kids explore their interests fully.
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Yarmouth is risking employing a one way budget ratchet.
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If kids don't sign up for a particular class one year,
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the position is cut rather than redeployed.
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I urge you to keep the school strong.
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Thank you. Thank you Tim.
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Any other public comment?
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We're so grateful for all of you being here.
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This input is so valuable to us and here in your personal experiences
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and your advice and your questions, we really appreciate.
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So we'll close public comment number two and we'll turn it back to the school
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committee discussion about where we are with the budget proposal.
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Until we feel like
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we are in a place where someone is ready to put a motion forward.
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Come.
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But do we need a motion just to begin discussion at this point?
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You could you could do that.
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And if you want to do it
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and provide us with the greatest flexibility,
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then the motion would be to approve for a second reading the proposed
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FY 27 budget in the amount of $44,212,213.
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I'll make that motion.
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Thank you.
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Second, and thank you for the clarification that we need about.
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So we will now open for discussion.
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I'll start, I guess.
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I wanted to thank everybody for their, comments tonight.
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It's really appreciated.
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And the emails that have come in, it's already been said by,
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my fellow committee member, Sarah, just that it's
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helpful to,
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Hear what people are thinking.
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And we don't always get that opportunity.
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And I really appreciate it when we when we do.
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And I do think that, I'm in full support of,
[6:32:34]
bringing the Stem position back up to 1.0.
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I do think that we.
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It's a it's a hard place
[6:32:44]
to sit when you're hearing and you're trying to look at a budget.
[6:32:47]
And I also agree with everything that's been said.
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We have, I've been on the school committee for a long time.
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And I remember when we added, the steam, classes
[6:33:00]
to the elementary school and the enthusiasm, Ryan Gleason had,
[6:33:04]
as we voted on those programs and the financial backing
[6:33:07]
to those programs, those kids, to my understanding, our current
[6:33:11]
eighth graders, the ones that started in, the elementary school.
[6:33:14]
So they will be coming up into the high school.
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The Stem endorsement that is new as of this year.
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There are a million wonderful, and compelling reasons
[6:33:25]
to, keep this position at, 1.0,
[6:33:30]
that full time rather than, point five.
[6:33:34]
And yet and I also appreciate the conversation
[6:33:37]
that we've had around it, looking to
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looking to the budget overall.
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I guess I'll, I have the floor.
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I'll just continue.
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I you know, I've been pretty staunch in my,
[6:33:55]
support of laptops.
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I don't know that that's changing,
[6:34:00]
but I would like to
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keep the money in the budget for right now
[6:34:06]
and not to be able to have more time to discuss
[6:34:11]
and think about this rather than, having to decide
[6:34:16]
tonight if I know that that sounded like a possibility.
[6:34:21]
What else?
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I guess for the moment, that's it. Lanaya.
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And then Michael.
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In my near two years of serving as the,
[6:34:32]
student voice,
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I've never seen this much community involvement.
[6:34:38]
This is incredible.
[6:34:40]
And I think that speaks volumes to the impact
[6:34:44]
that our Steam program has on our high school students.
[6:34:48]
And I just wanted to bring that to attention, even though it is very clear.
[6:34:54]
Just how much this matters to our students.
[6:34:57]
So I just wanted the committee to consider that as well.
[6:35:04]
But I want to start.
[6:35:06]
Well, I hate coming after. And because.
[6:35:09]
And I sound like I'm just agreeing with you.
[6:35:11]
It's okay.
[6:35:11]
But I want I do have a different comment slightly,
[6:35:15]
and that is that I am so impressed to hear the students.
[6:35:18]
Not that I don't appreciate the parents opinion, but that the articulate way
[6:35:23]
that students have presented their ideas and their beliefs
[6:35:27]
to me is very impressive.
[6:35:30]
And you have
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each, in your own way, sort of discussed your passions and your interests
[6:35:36]
and how those have been supported by this particular program.
[6:35:42]
And although I came into this meeting
[6:35:45]
expecting to support the the increase in the Stem position,
[6:35:49]
hearing the passion that you guys have, cements that that belief in me.
[6:35:56]
I also I concur with and that
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I think that with some of this new information
[6:36:03]
coming out about the MacBook neo, and I feel as
[6:36:09]
if there's more discussion needed before we may come down one way or another.
[6:36:13]
And so I would support preserving that money in the budget.
[6:36:17]
So we can make that decision at a later date.
[6:36:21]
That's all I have.
[6:36:22]
And I support the the budget, that number, that $44 million number.
[6:36:29]
Stands hand and then we'll go to Sarah Kelly.
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So, one continuing comment and then I will be quiet for a little while.
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Elise, I just also wanted to acknowledge your, thoughts, and I, I do there's
[6:36:42]
been a lot of discussion recently about, the AP offerings at the high school.
[6:36:47]
And I do think it is a really worthwhile topic to discuss.
[6:36:51]
Maybe not tonight as part of the, you know, the second reading of the budget.
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But as you know, as we do these workshops
[6:37:00]
every year and I can, kind of say
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that I'll be adding that to my list of requested workshops for next year.
[6:37:06]
I think it is something we should be,
[6:37:08]
looking at further and and putting some time and discussion into.
[6:37:12]
And thanks.
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We'll get to Sarah Kelly and then Elise for a couple of comments.
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And first, to start with, the proposal, which,
[6:37:23]
you know, we heard from many of you and thank you to restore the,
[6:37:26]
position to full time,
[6:37:29]
again, appreciate so much all of you, in particular
[6:37:32]
the students, for really articulating, all of the different reasons
[6:37:37]
and the variety of reasons that you find this position to be important.
[6:37:41]
And I want to underscore, I guess first, as a parent,
[6:37:44]
I've got kids in kindergarten, third grade, and I'm a senior.
[6:37:47]
I see both the benefits that have been given to my senior,
[6:37:51]
from the Army school system, and I see the excitement in my two younger
[6:37:55]
kids, especially my kindergartner, who is, like, interested in being an engineer.
[6:37:59]
And I look forward to the opportunities that he has in the upper grade levels.
[6:38:04]
And I think that this school committee and this administration does have a,
[6:38:10]
you know, very high standard and a strong vision for our schools
[6:38:14]
in preparing our kids for a changing world, in ensuring
[6:38:18]
we have a rich curriculum and then just sort of to fall back on.
[6:38:22]
I'm also a taxpayer, and I also think this administration and school committee
[6:38:27]
has to wear both hats and be very balanced in
[6:38:31]
giving a wide
[6:38:33]
variety of students a rich curriculum that meets their needs, while also
[6:38:38]
respecting the taxpayer and the responsibility we have to the town.
[6:38:42]
And last year was a bit hairy when it came down to the budget,
[6:38:46]
and I think that is has been really weighing heavily on our minds.
[6:38:50]
And I, I just want to say that I know that this administration,
[6:38:54]
when preparing the budget, did their very best
[6:38:57]
to maintain the excellence while putting forth a responsible budget.
[6:39:03]
And it's never going to be popular.
[6:39:07]
And I think maybe that's the making it obvious statement.
[6:39:09]
But I just want to say that no proposed cut
[6:39:12]
to staff is ever something that any of us want to see.
[6:39:16]
It's never something that any of us take lightly.
[6:39:19]
The majority of this budget is a human budget.
[6:39:22]
These are teachers that are valued and work very hard.
[6:39:26]
And yeah, I, I am very much in support of this,
[6:39:31]
restoring this position for a variety of reasons,
[6:39:35]
including the feedback that we've received from the community
[6:39:38]
and the consideration that in reducing it to a half time
[6:39:43]
position is like,
[6:39:45]
you know, potentially going to result in the exit of this individual
[6:39:49]
and would result in a difficulty in hiring a high quality person.
[6:39:54]
A high quality, technology educator.
[6:39:57]
As far as the iPad versus laptop, issue,
[6:40:02]
I mean, I think my personal opinions are maybe not useful here.
[6:40:06]
I think I'm always,
[6:40:07]
yeah, I'm a scientist by training and I'm, like, interested in data.
[6:40:11]
And I also I also respect
[6:40:15]
our staff and I respect Mike Arsenal's,
[6:40:17]
input and work in the discussions that he's been so gracious and having with us.
[6:40:22]
And the information has given and I also and, you know, really compelled
[6:40:27]
by the overwhelming feedback of our community and students
[6:40:32]
and in particular students whose feedback has been overwhelmingly
[6:40:37]
pro laptop and a lot in some of the emails and comment share
[6:40:42]
tonight about programs that they don't believe or capabilities they don't believe
[6:40:47]
are capable, in terms of the iPads to do or do adequately.
[6:40:52]
And, and I think what
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despite the hard work of Mike, Arsenal and some of the teachers
[6:40:58]
to do some testing with iPads, what I'm worried about is
[6:41:03]
that we haven't done a deep enough
[6:41:05]
dive with students and staff at the high school to really do
[6:41:10]
the comparison and really probe into the capabilities
[6:41:14]
in all of the classes, with all of the programs
[6:41:16]
that you all actually use on the day to day basis.
[6:41:19]
So long story short, I'm very much in favor of keeping that
[6:41:23]
additional money in the budget to give some additional time.
[6:41:27]
And if it is an I, a laptop decision, you know, we can we
[6:41:32]
it gives us more time
[6:41:33]
over the coming years to gather more data to really understand
[6:41:37]
the capabilities of a next generation iPad or neo versus a laptop.
[6:41:42]
My feeling is really just that this decision came too quickly,
[6:41:45]
and even though it involves a consideration of some staff,
[6:41:49]
I personally thought it didn't reach enough staff in time
[6:41:52]
to make an informed decision.
[6:41:54]
Which again, is why I'm in favor of adding that money to the budget
[6:41:57]
as proposed, so we have the time to make the proper decision.
[6:42:01]
Thank you.
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Kelly, I wanted to acknowledge the students
[6:42:05]
for coming here and hanging out until 9 p.m..
[6:42:11]
And just being so brave and,
[6:42:14]
candid, and I just, I want to celebrate that.
[6:42:17]
And I think it's a testament to everything
[6:42:19]
that you were sharing tonight about how these programs have impacted
[6:42:23]
your life and given you more confidence, more purpose.
[6:42:26]
So again, just want to acknowledge you for that.
[6:42:28]
And parents also, you know, even as adults,
[6:42:31]
it's not always easy to get up, and speak in front of your peers.
[6:42:35]
So kudos to you as well.
[6:42:37]
I am so grateful
[6:42:39]
that you spoke so passionately about keeping, the,
[6:42:44]
Stem position as a full time position because I will say for myself,
[6:42:49]
we've had all these other really big pressing, concerns,
[6:42:54]
whether it was about technology or cell phones,
[6:42:57]
and I don't think personally, I gave it due diligence.
[6:43:00]
So I appreciate that you all, took the time to come here
[6:43:04]
to write emails, and really give us more time
[6:43:08]
to be thoughtful and intentional with this decision.
[6:43:11]
I do have concerns again, because of the low enrollment,
[6:43:14]
but it sounds like this is an issue
[6:43:17]
that can be resolved, with some scheduling differences.
[6:43:21]
So again, I applaud you and thank you for that.
[6:43:24]
And that's
[6:43:24]
what is so great about living in this community is having so much involvement.
[6:43:28]
I mean, I'm sure on the staff side, sometimes it's like a little overwhelming.
[6:43:33]
I may have been one of those parents and it's like, Kelly Hall get $20 notes.
[6:43:38]
I didn't know each other a long time.
[6:43:41]
I've never said never.
[6:43:44]
So again, I feel lucky to live here.
[6:43:48]
I think I've been pretty open that I'm in support of the iPads.
[6:43:52]
Again, because I work at another school district.
[6:43:55]
And so being on the leadership team, I know that this is something
[6:43:59]
that's happening across the state.
[6:44:01]
And again, I trust the experts
[6:44:03]
who are immersed in that field, and they're all working together.
[6:44:06]
They're all going to the schools that have already made the transitions.
[6:44:10]
You know, they're having experiences with these schools.
[6:44:13]
And again, we're still going to have laptops.
[6:44:15]
Okay. So they're not completely going away.
[6:44:18]
We're going to have them for the students that need them.
[6:44:21]
And I think that's something to remember too.
[6:44:22]
That's like the privilege that we have here, right.
[6:44:24]
That we can have options for students.
[6:44:27]
I know change is hard, but I think,
[6:44:29]
I mean, and again, we all have our own personal experiences.
[6:44:33]
And for me, having a child who's just naturally gifted with technology,
[6:44:37]
trying to control him on the laptop has been a nightmare.
[6:44:41]
So I love the idea that we're introducing a tool
[6:44:44]
that provides a little bit more security,
[6:44:47]
and the ability for staff to,
[6:44:51]
be able to monitor what students are doing on the device in the classroom.
[6:44:55]
Because, again, I've also worked in the district,
[6:44:57]
and I've seen how much time it takes away from instruction.
[6:45:01]
When you have students on a laptop doing things that they shouldn't
[6:45:05]
be doing at that time.
[6:45:06]
And the difference with the iPad
[6:45:08]
is that the teacher can see exactly what they're doing
[6:45:10]
with that classroom feature, which I think is so helpful.
[6:45:13]
So that's maybe something at least.
[6:45:16]
So, I, I know everyone here has spoken very passionately
[6:45:20]
about how they're very much in support of bringing the halftime position
[6:45:24]
back up to full time.
[6:45:25]
And I really admire and acknowledge the,
[6:45:28]
emotion that you guys have shown.
[6:45:31]
And I am going to make the unpopular stance that I don't.
[6:45:35]
I think we should keep it at halftime.
[6:45:37]
And I don't say that because I don't believe
[6:45:38]
that these are incredibly valuable roles that are being taken away.
[6:45:42]
It is these classes are very valuable for a lot of students,
[6:45:46]
but I think we have to be cognizant of the fact that there is a limit
[6:45:49]
to how many teachers we can have, how many rooms we have in the school.
[6:45:52]
And, as Tim mentioned, there's maybe like 6 or 7,
[6:45:56]
half a dozen or so students who are taking AP macroeconomics online.
[6:45:59]
I'm one of those students.
[6:46:00]
I would much rather be taking this class in person,
[6:46:03]
but I'm unable to do so because we do not have a teacher to do that.
[6:46:06]
So when you tell me that we have half a dozen students
[6:46:10]
who are unable to take this class,
[6:46:12]
who are being forced to take this class online,
[6:46:13]
who knows how many other students
[6:46:15]
are not taking it because of the fact that it's online.
[6:46:17]
And then you tell me that we are going to
[6:46:20]
in the position that
[6:46:21]
potentially could have been held by someone
[6:46:23]
who could be teaching this class in person.
[6:46:25]
You were prioritizing lower level.
[6:46:29]
And by lower level I don't mean less valuable, but they are not AP classes.
[6:46:33]
You are prioritizing lower level classes that have one to 3 to 4 people in them.
[6:46:38]
That in my mind, is,
[6:46:41]
a disparity that I think is not justifiable
[6:46:44]
when we claim that we want to have the highest level school
[6:46:47]
with the highest performing students, and yet we're prioritizing
[6:46:50]
how to build a guitar over how to take AP macroeconomics.
[6:46:54]
I think that's just a disparity that we need to think about.
[6:46:59]
So thank you.
[6:47:05]
Everybody said what I would say.
[6:47:07]
I don't really need to keep everybody here longer.
[6:47:10]
I will only say that I,
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I'm with Kelly in the fact that I've been pretty clear that
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I support the change to iPads, but I also want to say that I support
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keeping the funding in the budget so we can discuss it further.
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I think there's, a lot of new information that we've received that's worth
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conversation to talk about.
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And and keeping the money in there for now.
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So we can do that, I think is very valuable.
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And I
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and then Kelly, I also just wanted to acknowledge
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everybody and the parents too, because I've talked in front of the town
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council and I'm like, up there, I'm shaking you all were very composed.
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I was impressed, and I feel like I need to go meet Mr.
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Pitman now because he sounds amazing.
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So I wanted to say thank you to everyone to come out and talk
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and on the behalf of these programs, I think it's valuable.
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I think it's just as valuable as, macroeconomics.
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I could not do that.
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I, I think that, you know, that leads to really great academic opportunities.
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I think not everyone is built and designed for that sort of academic opportunity,
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and providing them the opportunity to learn
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how to use their hands and learn skills in a different way is just as valuable.
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So just putting that out there, I also,
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I'm torn on the laptop iPad.
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I really value Mr.
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Small and his opinion and I really I,
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I really appreciate, Margo Downes,
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you've talked to us a couple of times and I feel like you're very eloquent,
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and I appreciate your input and what you have to say to us.
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So. Oh,
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I remembered so when I was at the high school for the policy presentations,
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I was speaking with the staff there, and I just wanted to share with you.
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I was just talking with the teacher after when there was some time,
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and she was saying that she really liked the idea of iPads
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because students can set them down and then they're not having
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that barrier in front of them.
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And when I was there and I witnessed the students having their laptops open,
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I saw like I actually saw and felt what that meant, and it was pretty significant.
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And I also had been thinking about the ergonomics of an iPad.
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But then when you were there and I saw this like
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junior, like,
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you know, he's like a full grown man, like trying to type on a laptop.
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It really wasn't ergonomic either.
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So I just wanted to turn the other to you guys.
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Because that I just had that in mind when I was at my high school,
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and it was an interesting experience for me.
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So I wanted to share that with all of you.
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But I am in favor of the full time staff member
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and of keeping that money in the budget for now, so that we can make sure
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we have an informed decision and we're not rushing into it.
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Thank you. Emily Kelly.
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Yes, I just wanted to add is that I'm in favor of keeping the full budget.
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And it's just that we have more time to talk about the technology.
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Despite that, I lean towards more iPads.
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I'm totally okay with keeping that money in.
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I just wanna make one comment
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about staffing with our, staffing budget
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as it is
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taking this year's staff
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and moving it forward to next year, and recognizing the retirements
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and resignations that we have, we already have a plan.
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Hope that
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that we think is we're pretty optimistic about that.
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We would be able to restore more
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staffing at the high school within the budget that we already have.
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So that's not a that's not something
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that we need to act on to add money into the budget.
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Those funds are already they're made available by the
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what some people term breakage from this year's
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staffing and next year's projected staffing.
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I'll just offer my $0.02 before I think we're ready to move the vote.
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Like everyone at this table, I take the taxpayers investment
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in our schools really seriously,
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and I take the experience we're offering for our students really seriously.
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Thank you all for being a part of this process.
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I think I'm in agreement with many people up here.
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In terms of technology devices, I'm really compelled
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by our experts that are recommending moving towards an iPad.
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And I'm even more compelled by the students and staff that don't want it.
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And so for me, I, I support maintaining the budget for a laptop
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and thinking about what might be our process or change management
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in future years to evolve to technology that students and staff
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are not just comfortable with, but excited and prepared to use.
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And like
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others, I support using our Stem teacher to a full time
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position for all the reasons that have been shared tonight.
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And I think about how do we collectively and really the work of our high school
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administration and and team think about connecting our strategic
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priority around Stem and all the interest and the amazing experiences
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people are having and these really low class sizes.
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I want to see that gap closed.
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So that is what I wanted to share.
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And if there are no other comments, I think we can move to a vote.
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All in favor of the motion on the table.
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All opposed?
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Thank you.
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With that, it is 916 and we are adjourned.
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Thanks, folks. Thanks, everyone. You.