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Sorry.
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How are you?
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this
evening's board meeting. It is now 7:31.
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I would like to call the board meeting
to order. And our first agenda item is
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the pledge of allegiance. If I could ask
uh Maxine Wolf to lead us in the pledge
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of allegiance. Would we all stand and
face the flag, please?
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible with liberty and
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justice for justice for all.
>> Thank you.
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Vote, please. Robot, please. Excuse me.
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Uh trusty southern
>> here.
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» Trusty Mesner
>> here.
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» Trusty
>> here.
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» Here we're all here. We have a quorum.
Thank you. First item on our agenda is
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the town amended budget and
appropriations public hearing. I
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therefore call the public hearing to
order for the amended budget and
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appropriations ordinance for York
Township fiscal year beginning March
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1st, 2025 ending February 28th, 2026.
It was prepared and it has been made
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convenient and available to the public
for inspection since February 9th. Um,
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at this time, can I have the chief of
staff please provide brief report
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budget?
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» Hi, I'm recommending that the town board
pass the town budget. There were
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additional funds available for the
police fund um that must be spent in
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this fiscal year and the budget
amendment is required in order to
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appropriate those funds. Since we needed
to amen the budget, we also took the
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opportunity to make some housekeeping
adjustments to accounts that were
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trending over the budget, including
legal services, auto repairs, and
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nutrition, supplies, and equipment.
Funds were increased in the necessary
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where necessary and reducing capital
outlay building. So, the total
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appropriations for the budget remains
unchanged.
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
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At this time, is there anybody in the
audience who wishes to address the
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township board regarding the amended
budget and appropriation ordinance?
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Seeing none, I will close the public
hearing at this time. The board will
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take final action on the amended budget
and appropriation ordinance at agenda
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number eight on this evening's agenda.
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At this time, can I have a motion for
agenda number five? Um, for our minutes,
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I move to approve the minutes of
February 10th, 2026.
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» May I have a second, please?
>> Hearing a second. Is there any
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discussion?
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Seeing no discussion,
cleric,
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» yes.
>> Trusty Mner,
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» yes.
>> Trusty Rego,
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» yes.
>> Supervisor Murray,
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» yes.
>> Yes. Motion carries.
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Thank you.
Next on the agenda is our close session
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minutes.
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I move to approve the minutes of the
February 10th, 2026 close session
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minutes.
>> Do I have a second? Second. Thank you.
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Any discussion?
Cler, may I appro?
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» Jesse S.
>> Yes.
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» Jesse Mner.
>> Yes.
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» Jesse Baker, yes. Marian,
>> yes.
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» Yes. Motion passes.
>> Thank you.
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At this time, is there any public
comment? And um yes, I have three people
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like public comment. Uh the first is
Maxine Wolf.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the board is good
to meet you all in person. In Eric, I
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became aware of the
proposal. I believe that ALPR systems
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like other arms of the surveillance
state are right for abuse. For example,
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and I quote here from John McCrae Jones
AW policy analyst November 25th, 2025.
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In 2024, Leard, former police chief of
Kansas, used automatic license reader
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cameras to track his ex-girlfriend's
vehicle 228 times over more than four
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months and even follow her and her new
boyfriend is late. End quote. I can go
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on the article contains numerous
upsetting stories. I'm making no
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accusations here really providing
background how such systems can be
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misused. While I'm glad RFP explicitly
states the statuto requirements that
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local police force data cannot be used
to aid with immigration investigations.
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Unfortunately, this is another area
where abuse is all too common.
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Media's Jason Copler reported in August
2025 that poss
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with a DEA agent who used access to
quote search for information on someone
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accused of an immigration violation end
quote without the police officer's
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knowledge.
Even though most officers will not
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misuse systems, point is that ALPR
systems are vulnerable to abuse.
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However, given the tight deadline for
the use of funding, I propose the
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following conditions uh above and beyond
the proposal, some of which may be
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standard practice by defer already. The
data should be viewable only by the
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minimum necessary law enforcement
agents. The min app should not be used
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by anyone. Uh the min app was mentioned
in the uh proposal making data
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accessible on a personal device invites
personal use i.e. misuse. Records of
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searches made by law enforcement agents
should be retained and available for
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public audit. Camera images and plate
data should be retained for the shortest
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possible time. Minute man offers 30
days. Marlo in 2023 with the ACLU point
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out that plates can be compared with hot
lists in seconds and that New Hampshire
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law requires data to be deleted after 3
minutes. Furthermore, the data uh
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decryption key should not be stored in
Amazon web services which could be
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subpoenaed by federal authorities in
contention of the Illinois statute
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preventing use of LPR data in
immigration cases. The decryption key
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should be retained by the township
before installation. A community
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assessment should be conducted to ensure
that the cameras are not placed in a
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discriminatory way. I believe the public
safety is best served by social services
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and the community needs noted members or
sur. Thank you very much.
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» Thank you.
Next one.
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Uh Michael
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Good evening. My name is Michael and I'm
here this evening to voice my opposition
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to the
system.
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More due diligence is needed for an item
like this. Auditing policy should be
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place to ensure that selected vendors do
not have exploits in their software um
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and patch that exploits in a timely
manner. Um the township would be
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responsible for ensuring vendors they
are selecting uh uh do this um and I do
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not see provision for this outline in
any proposals. Furthermore, reliance on
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ALPR technology goes against efforts to
ensure community policing uh as
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practice. installation of these highly
visible cameras does not make people
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feel safer and so distrust distrust
among populists uh against police. Uh
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community oriented policing is proven to
improve attitudes towards law
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enforcement. Furthermore, the way this
technology would be used inserts more
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streets between police officers and
communities they are serving and
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protecting. This distances an officer
from the public and can lead to them
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viewing the community as others and not
something the officer themselves is an
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active part of. We need to what we are
losing by prioritizing the use of
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technology when it comes to public
safety.
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Furthermore, what enforcement methods
would there be to ensure this data is
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handled responsibly by law enforcement?
I understand there are provisions in the
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requirement that uh would be that these
cannot be used for immigration
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enforcement, enforcement related
investigations, general intelligence
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gathering. Um but there are uh numerous
ways that this data can be exploited. Um
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particularly the inclusion of a mobile
opens up many vectors that this data
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could be leaked. Um, you could do screen
recording, record the phone with another
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phone, etc. Um, and that ultimately we
would be relying upon the people who
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could misuse this to enforce that it is
not and that creates a conflict of
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interest that it would not be uh in the
public interest.
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Law enforcement in Illinois has already
shown willingness to share login
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credentials for these systems with
federal agents. Um, and beyond that,
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there have been further instances of
these systems used to uh stop and abuse
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um those who have relationships with
officers. Um so this tool has too much
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potential for abuse and that outweighs
any supposed benefits for the community.
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Um we need to ask ourselves if we are
okay with signing off the installation
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of a panopticon um that we cannot ensure
would affect data safety and be in the
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interest of public. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
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Matt Bender.
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» Good evening. I'm speaking tonight
against
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cameras. These cameras do not deliver
actors. AI should not be used by any
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government or policing body as AI has
continually shown itself to be
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unreliable and the companies that create
them to be irresponsible. These
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companies do not care about our safety.
They just see us as free data to be
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captured and in a time where mass ICE,
DHS, CBP, FBI, and a number of bounty
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hunters are pulling people off the
street through arrest of opportunity to
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hit deportation quotas. not enforce
actual immigration or United States law.
[12:37]
Show us where our policing has gone and
where it is going. When we see green
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card holders get detained at their
hearings. When we see pepper balls shot
[12:47]
in the faces of our neighbors at
Broadview, when we see teenagers get
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attacked in Aurora demonstrating free
speech, we ask ourselves if these police
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officers work for us and if they
consider themselves part of our
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community. The police decide what our
laws are. You can go from a citizen with
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rights to inhuman scum deserving of
abuse at one person's discretion, one
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person's.
The police have an incredible amount of
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power in our country. But to hear them
tell it, they don't have enough. It's
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not enough that we are seeing federal
agents break the Fourth Amendment both
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in breaking down doors without warrants,
pulling citizens and non-citizens out of
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cars, and beating them senseless in the
good cases, being shot, beaten to death,
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and neglected on the scene in the worst.
We get to watch those agents do that
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while local police stand around and
watch.
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They might even get a few kicks in on
the person being arrested or start a
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physical altercation with the witness,
hoping to intimidate them into silence
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or dictate.
The police seem to see us as an
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occupying force, but don't seem to
recognize that we now see them in that
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way, too. In America, our police are the
ones that decide who gets justice and
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who doesn't, who dies and who doesn't,
and who gets to protest peacefully and
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what they get to say.
And now we are going to continue to
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empower police to install cameras that
take an enormous amount of data and hope
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that it will not be abused. The problem
is that these systems have already shown
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they are harmful. Ask Brandon Upurch how
cameras worked out for him when in 2024
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his vehicle was wrongly tagged as having
stolen plates. a violent K9 arrest, a
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booking, hours of jail, court fees,
attorney's fees, all for his case to be
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dismissed because the flot camera
mistook a 742.
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The camera picked a local patrol and
they stopped vehicle solely on the
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information. That's all it takes. One
mistake and you feel like Brandon, head
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down to the German Shepherd ripping at
your arm and scout. That's all it takes
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to go from a citizen to a human. To a
case like Brandon sounds like a oneoff,
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flight cameras do not just data on
criminals. Unfortunately, given how the
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cameras operate, that would be
impossible. So, what that means is that
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the camera company and the police
department have access to mountains of
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data about everyone all the time. This
data can be accessed across
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jurisdictions and shared freely from one
officer to another. According to the
[15:25]
ACLU, police departments were sharing
data and live video on the movements of
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drivers. This live video is not just
footage but AI enhanced footage meaning
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that any incorrect information due to AI
incompetence or hallucination would stay
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with that footage.
AI is not to be trusted without many
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many levels of verification because it
is an unfinished project that has yet to
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prove it delivers on the things it says
it does. But I don't need to harp on AI
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as a major factor rejecting this
contract. The system that is put in
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place is scary enough as it is. As we
said, Lee Nygard, his sexist used to
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track track his ex-wife. He also used a
system to follow her and her new
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boyfriend in his police car. Ryan
Terrell of North Charleston, South
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Carolina, used the cameras to track his
wife. He suspected having an affair.
[16:12]
Michael Stethman, former police chief of
Britton, Georgia, used his data access
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to stalk and harass multiple private
citizens, none of which were suspected
[16:21]
of crimes.
Joe Sua of Milwaukee did 179 personal
[16:29]
searches using Flack data, mostly using
it to look up the women he was dating
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and their ex partners. On top of the AI
hallucinations and current potential
[16:38]
abuses by human users, there's a main
factor in my opposition to these cameras
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and that is that it does not grant me
safety, but in fact makes me more
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fearful of the people who would suggest
these cameras make me safe. You are not.
[16:52]
You are making a surveillance state that
will be abused when they power. People
[16:56]
who do not see themselves a part of
refugees, who see expression of our
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rights as inconvenient and the
constitution as optional. I cannot
[17:03]
stress enough to this council member
listening what the police can do to the
[17:08]
most vulnerable of us. They can do to
all of us. In a time where we are seeing
[17:12]
a marauding force of mass agents do what
they want without consequences,
[17:17]
these reflect on all of law enforcement
and our society.
[17:25]
What we see when we see ICE is the full
realization of a violent fascist
[17:30]
government using the guise of the law to
enforce it unevenly on all of us. This
[17:36]
is not a bad apple situation. Until the
government stops attacking its own
[17:40]
citizens under the name of law and
order, then we cannot support any more
[17:44]
constructive surveillance. Until we see
law enforcement hold these mass agents
[17:48]
to the law, we cannot support anything
that empowers more harassment, more
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violence, and encourages these mass
agents to continue terrorizing us. These
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cameras will not keep us safe. They will
just make the ICE bounty hunting easier
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and accelerate the violent vision of
Steven Miller and Donald Trump. I won't
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lie. I'm afraid you can say this
publicly because I know that might mean
[18:09]
I will now be a data. I will now be a
person of interest and my movement can
[18:14]
be tracked. That's scary, but that's
what we're talking about. You're all
[18:19]
going to be data points and whether or
not you break the law is not going to
[18:23]
matter. There's going to be mountains of
data about you that someone can find and
[18:27]
use how they wish.
[18:31]
I cannot support the use of these
cameras in law enforcement or any other
[18:35]
possib
[18:39]
Thank you.
Anyone else?
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At this time, I invite uh Beach County
Sheriff Sharp for uh comments on uh the
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LBR page.
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» Good evening. I'm Detective Simon with
the Page County Sheriff's Department. I
[19:05]
am tasked with being the flock
administrator for the county sheriff's
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department. So I was asked to come speak
on behalf of the purchase of LTRs. Um
[19:15]
I wasn't sure exactly what to expect on
these meetings. Uh so I just want to
[19:19]
address some concerns that I heard while
you were up here. Um, while it's true,
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the ACLU
does not think law enforcement should be
[19:27]
using license plate readers to obtain
information on where people are going
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and when unless their vehicle is on a
legitimate hit list. This is from the
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ALCU published in February of 2026.
Um, when we enter cars or we're looking
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for cars, they are put into what this
says hit list. We call it a hot list.
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Specifically, it's a car that's involved
in one way or another in a specific
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crime. I'll give you an example. Uh just
this week, there's an ongoing
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investigation. A [clears throat] female
was going to her mailbox. She had pulled
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up to her residence in her car, opened
her car door, got out, went to her
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mailbox, and a gentleman jumped into her
vehicle. She then went over and tried to
[20:14]
open the vehicle, and the man fled,
which which caused her to fall and she
[20:19]
had an injury to her head. Now, because
we know this woman when she called the
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police, we had her license plate, we
were able to enter it into these license
[20:27]
plate readers and we were able to track
that vehicle up to Shamberg where
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Shamberg PD responded.
Um the man dumped the vehicle, fled and
[20:38]
immediately stole another vehicle which
was then tracked back to Itasa in
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unorporate DuPage County where that man
tried to steal another vehicle when he
[20:48]
fled on foot into Madina and he was
finally apprehended. So it was the use
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of these LPRs that allowed us to track
that car up to Shamberg from his day.
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Um there's been other cases where
as far as we're talking our retention of
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data. 30 days is what we retain the data
for. Um
[21:10]
we don't always have crimes reported the
moment they happen. We had a crime in um
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Willowbrook where a young lady was
pulled up to her residence. A man jumped
[21:21]
out and tried to open a car door just
like it happened in Hansdale the other
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day. And that woman went inside her
house and was so fearful she did not
[21:29]
call the police until 12:00 p.m. the
next day. Now, that would be within the
[21:33]
one day retention window, but anything
shorter than that, we wouldn't have had
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anything to go on without these FPRs,
without people calling the police. And
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people don't always call the police. If
you want to think of more serious
[21:44]
crimes, um the victims of those crimes
may never have the opportunity to call
[21:49]
police. Um and that has happened quite
frequently. And using these LPRs to go
[21:57]
back 30 days sometimes, boy, we wish we
could go back further. We have an open
[22:02]
investigation where the victims weren't
discovered to or 90 days after the crime
[22:08]
took place. And that's because these
were people who came here from another
[22:13]
country. They had no family locally and
their family over in Kurdistan, I
[22:19]
believe, was not able to communicate
with them and not able to communicate
[22:22]
with the police. So, we wish we had more
LPR going back. We weren't randomly
[22:27]
searching cars, randomly searching
people. we were going based on suspects
[22:32]
information that was given to us. Um, if
you want to look at the LPR data that we
[22:37]
have, I just brought one example of
uh two LPR hits.
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And if you look at these, the vehicle is
only identified by license plate. The
[22:50]
cameras are placed in such a way that
you cannot see who's inside the car, how
[22:55]
many people are inside the car. We don't
know if there's one, two, or 10. Um, I
[22:58]
happen to use these two examples if
you're concerned about abuse. This is my
[23:02]
vehicle, um, which I took just for
example for tonight. Um, the cameras are
[23:07]
not as invasive as showing you who's
exactly driving. You don't see the
[23:11]
driver's face. The cameras are trained
on the license plates, whether they're
[23:14]
coming towards the camera or going away
from the camera. So, the value of these
[23:18]
cameras goes beyond just
they're not used for basic surveillance.
[23:22]
We put them in on hot. When we have a
specific crime, that's when the license
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plate is entered and that's when we
begin searching. And the usefulness of
[23:31]
Minute Man or Flock is inter agency.
When we put this hit list in, the other
[23:37]
agencies that we share these cameras
with, they get hit list notifications
[23:40]
via email. So if we have a suspect
vehicle flee, local agencies within
[23:46]
DuPage County will see these hits on
their outlet and then know, hey, DuPage
[23:49]
just had this. We don't all scan each
other's radio channels. Page County
[23:53]
Sheriff's Department has got its own
radio channel. Nobody's hears our radio
[23:57]
check unless they're scanning our
specific channel and we don't check.
[24:01]
Depending on where you work in the Page
County, uh some people up in the north,
[24:05]
what we call B1 may scan Addison and
Wooddale because that's in their area,
[24:09]
but they're probably not scanning
Hinsdale. They're probably not scanning
[24:12]
Davidville. They're probably not
scanning. So, they're not hearing that
[24:15]
radio traffic getting put out to them
that a hot crime just occurred and
[24:18]
they're looking for this specific
vehicle. but they get those emails when
[24:21]
they're in the car and the hot list
sells exactly what card they're looking
[24:24]
for.
Um, there was a concern you had about
[24:30]
the incorrect vehicle. So, when you use
flock, um, if a car is put in flock as a
[24:38]
stolen auto, you can't stop this vehicle
based on a flock. You have to develop
[24:44]
some sort of probable cause. So if you
want to think about when we do DUI, we
[24:49]
can't just pull over a driver or
suspected DUI. We have to see some sort
[24:53]
of infraction. There has to be a lane
infraction, a headline, turn signal. We
[24:56]
need probable cause to make the stop
before we can have the person exit the
[25:01]
vehicle before test. It's the same thing
with flock. Just because a car is
[25:06]
entered on a flock hit list, that's not
probable cause to stop that vehicle. So
[25:10]
whoever stopped that vehicle that was
entered in the flock as being a stolen
[25:14]
auto didn't proply unless they develop
some probable cause ahead of time. Um so
[25:20]
that's part of our policy is having a
flock hit a midman hit is not probable
[25:26]
cause to stop a deal. We need to develop
probable cause first. Um as far as IFCS
[25:37]
IFCS 62552130.
Um first thing you do when you sign in
[25:42]
to FL it explains to you right here that
you're accessing restricted data
[25:47]
provided for authorized use only
compliance with flock terms policy and
[25:52]
that explains ILC 625 which says we
cannot use this data to uh for uh to
[25:58]
inhibit someone's reproductive rights um
or immigration status.
[26:06]
So that's just something they have to
sign on to. It's a policy and it because
[26:10]
if they're going to be bad actors, sure
there's bad actors with anything as far
[26:14]
as the because
as society goes and surveillance goes,
[26:18]
we're all constantly being surveiled.
Um, but I can assure you that Page
[26:22]
County Sheriff's Department is not using
this in such a way to uh illegally
[26:29]
surveil or follow people
um
[26:34]
assist immigration in any way or
interfere with people's uh reproductive
[26:39]
rights.
Any other questions that I can answer
[26:42]
for you?
>> Um, Sure.
[26:45]
» Um when we use it as used to prevent
crime, I think establish that it's not
[26:50]
for
>> correct.
[26:52]
» Um is there a certain level of crime
that this is going to be used for? I
[26:56]
mean crime,
right? Um
[27:00]
I mean reasonably and how we have any
assurance that that definition will not
[27:04]
change as we have.
Is there any contract that we would sign
[27:09]
that could lock in what they're allowed
to use this for?
[27:14]
I would have to make the policy. I
didn't bring a copy of the policy with
[27:17]
me. I apologize for that. Um, but as far
as crime, if it's
[27:22]
a petty offense of of littering or
jaywalking, I mean, generally when this
[27:27]
is used, it's for something that's a
felony level crime.
[27:31]
» Okay. But there's no contract that we
would have that we would sign with
[27:34]
assurance that it won't be used for
certain things. It's based on the
[27:37]
current policy based on policy.
So, I changed
[27:44]
Um
how it sounds like this app is not very
[27:48]
restricted um as to who can access it.
It sounds like other agencies can access
[27:52]
our data. Um and is there a certain
level of personnel that are allowed to
[27:57]
access the data or is this like every
police officer?
[28:00]
» Well, yes. So yes with a but essentially
um it's plot camera specifically minute.
[28:08]
It's reciprocal. Agencies have to send
us a specific request. We review that
[28:13]
request and we approve it.
>> That's how they get access to our
[28:16]
system.
>> Well, not I I don't want to say our
[28:20]
system. It's a web- based system. So,
Flock or Minute Man. It's a web based.
[28:23]
It's a URL. It's not a program that we
put onto our computers. It's something
[28:27]
that they control at their end and we
access from the outside.
[28:30]
» Okay. But at the moment, any officer
could access the data at the same time.
[28:37]
any deputy with DuPage County can access
it because we have access to flock. Uh
[28:43]
once they reach a certain phase of
training, they submit a letter to the
[28:46]
FT, I'm sorry, the flock administrators,
myself or I have two assistants that
[28:50]
also do that and we grant them
permission. We sign them up for it. Um
[28:54]
but not every agency uses uh Flock. I
know some people use them as opposed to
[29:00]
Flock. So not every agency automatically
can access Flock, but their their agency
[29:04]
themselves would have to sign them up
for And then I had
[29:09]
one of the public comments brought up
something that I didn't actually see in
[29:12]
the contract but might I missed. Um and
that is the use of AI. How is AI used on
[29:18]
these machines to enhance
>> I'm assuming when they're referring to
[29:23]
AI they're referring to the license
plate reader itself is artificial
[29:26]
intelligence that's actually reading the
license plate. I'm not that well versed
[29:29]
in how the technology works. So when
they say how do they use AI I can't I
[29:33]
like AI they're not using AI to develop
a crime or develop a suspect we enter
[29:38]
the license plate and the license plate
readers AI is what's taking a picture
[29:42]
and interpreting that data um you know
if we don't have a full license plate we
[29:49]
can put in the description of the
vehicle and sometimes description
[29:52]
vehicles one particular example is my
vehicle I have a decal at my back window
[29:56]
so we can add in there search for
vehicles with decals
[30:00]
a black view with a a white decal on the
window. So, it'll be AI sort of
[30:04]
interpreting the photos to show us what
what they have.
[30:12]
» Any other questions?
>> I have some questions.
[30:15]
» Sure.
>> Um, so you mentioned that you are the
[30:18]
block administrator. Yes.
>> What does that mean exactly?
[30:21]
» Basically, I was responsible for uh
drafting the most recent contract that
[30:26]
we just entered into. Um, with or with
other
[30:30]
» with specific
>> with clock specific yes um I'm
[30:34]
responsible for uh giving new users
access to it and I'm responsible for
[30:40]
doing all audit um so someone had
mentioned papers in the article I read
[30:44]
that um we were audited by the Illinois
secretary of state and so I had to go
[30:49]
back and show all the every user that
used it um from within our agency and
[30:55]
every user that accessed it from outside
So I have access to all that data on it
[30:59]
to use it and what it's used for.
>> Um so does that mean you're not familiar
[31:04]
with like
um vendor that we have?
[31:09]
» I am somewhat familiar with it. I know
there are agencies in county that do use
[31:13]
it. I did have a conversation with
someone from Minute and it seems to be
[31:18]
very similar to Flock just a company.
>> Okay. Do you know any differences
[31:24]
between Minute and Flock? I believe
minute is more readily available for a
[31:30]
live video feed whereas flot came
specifically the flot cameras we use are
[31:34]
just taking still images of cars going
through
[31:38]
an intersection.
>> Um and so the data that so what we're
[31:43]
doing or what the proposal is of the
township is that we're providing like
[31:47]
the capital to install the cameras. Um
we would own the data we would own um
[31:55]
the responsibility of maintaining and
annual updates and
[32:01]
» maintenance,
>> but ultimately we're not using the data.
[32:06]
We the township it is the uh law
enforcement
[32:11]
sheriff's department
>> is using this data access data sharing
[32:15]
it with the other department whenever
there is a hit. Is that correct? I just
[32:21]
want to make sure that my understanding
is
[32:22]
» so I think the best to answer your
question is if if the if there's a
[32:28]
concern here that the data is going to
be used with outside agencies but you
[32:33]
are ultimately the ones anchored to make
the decision. Uh we do have an agreement
[32:37]
with Addison Township who has clock
cameras and we do not share Addison's
[32:42]
clock cameras with outside agencies.
It's for the Page County home. So that
[32:46]
is something that could be put into the
system if you were concerned about and
[32:51]
I'm just saying Congress because I'm
here with subdivision. If you were put
[32:55]
cameras throughout Congress that were
part of this contract under Minute and
[32:59]
you were to say those cameras are only
to be used by Page County for law
[33:04]
enforcement purposes. We could be the
only one to access it. That being said,
[33:10]
if another agency, say it had something
happen in their area and they believed
[33:14]
our suspect lived in Congress, they
could call us and request say, "Hey, is
[33:19]
this vehicle in the area?" we work with
them to give them that information, but
[33:23]
they would necessarily have independent
signification
[33:27]
and look for that information
themselves.
[33:30]
» Um, just to comment on that, I think
when you said we would own the data, I
[33:34]
believe they mean the Dage County
Sheriff Department would own the data,
[33:37]
not your township. Um, and I believe
that this is just a one time purchase
[33:42]
for the DuPage County Sheriff's
Department that we would be stepping out
[33:45]
of this after we approve it. Am I
correct to them?
[33:51]
So trusty master if you're directing
that question to me we would be
[33:55]
transferring that through an IG page
county shares we are we are purchasing
[34:01]
the hardware for this purpose um and
then through an IG which we would uh
[34:09]
work out later um the stipulation of
ownership would be determined
[34:16]
and just for the record that that
uh as uh sheriff indicated that actual
[34:24]
vendor um houses the the data like it
does not incur cost to the township on
[34:31]
the server for through the page shared
by their server. Um and those those
[34:37]
servers all have um have their own
product and um security purposes in
[34:43]
mind.
[34:49]
Okay. So this ultimately the data will
not be under our
[34:56]
um we will not be owning the data that
>> well I mean ownership I think is
[35:06]
maybe
not the correct word it's more who's
[35:10]
storing the data and ultimately the data
um but we're the ones that have access
[35:14]
to they're holding it so it's a URL
based system so you have to into it.
[35:19]
They're holding a container for us.
>> So when I say ownership of data, I'm
[35:24]
thinking of well, we can flip the switch
and say we don't want anyone to view the
[35:30]
live feed. We don't want anyone to
>> if you're thinking it from that angle,
[35:34]
then yes, we own the data as far as
restricting who can access it.
[35:38]
» Okay.
>> But Minute Man will be the running the
[35:41]
servers that retain that data. But as
far as ownership is who can access it,
[35:45]
then yes, that is the correct
interpretation of it. We are the owners
[35:48]
of it in the sense that we get we decide
who's able to access the information.
[35:53]
» So we are just providing the funding for
it
[35:57]
» the hardware
>> the hardware and we're using you know
[36:00]
$73,000 of the budget to purchase
the hardware
[36:05]
» solar panels the camera battery
and installation services.
[36:15]
And if at any time we decide we no
longer want an old PR anymore, it's out
[36:22]
of our hands, right? Once it's there,
it's there forever, can we pull it for
[36:27]
any reason?
>> That can be worked out in the IG with
[36:32]
with the sheriff's department. Um it's a
matter of um the purpose of procuring
[36:41]
capital of the equipment would be there
whether that service is provided and and
[36:48]
whether that's maintained over the next
couple of years. We could work that out
[36:52]
through the in that respect. So yes,
that could be something that could be
[36:56]
negotiated with the Dage County
Sheriff's Department. I would I would
[37:01]
say from their standpoint um they have
uh cameras in and uninccorporated DuPage
[37:07]
County right now. Correct.
>> Correct.
[37:10]
» Uh and the five municipalities within
the township have their own um uh LPR
[37:16]
cameras uh in them. From my knowledge,
correct me if I'm wrong, um
[37:24]
is a Motorola based. Uh Oak is Minute
Man. Down is Minute Man Terrace is
[37:32]
block.
Uh Will Park is Brock.
[37:37]
» Roselle is M.
>> Rosella is M. Um so there are different
[37:42]
vendors. Um but uh Trusty Sutter and to
speak to your specific question um
[37:49]
whether we have the control at the end
of the day is something that we work out
[37:54]
through the IG with the page shares
department. Um I think uh from their
[38:00]
perspective they're looking at 10
cameras to complement what they already
[38:05]
do. Um and if we um work it out in a um
to have that authority um to give those
[38:13]
cameras up or to end those cameras in 20
27 um that's something that we recently
[38:22]
worked out in
[38:26]
» um
how many cameras are there in
[38:32]
Dupage County
Page County Homes?
[38:36]
throughout the entire county.
[38:43]
» And how far apart are these cameras from
each other?
[38:49]
» They're all over
there. Some complex.
[38:54]
There's some just down the street here.
There's some in Aurora, some inville.
[38:57]
anywhere in an unincorporated road where
we find that we that we felt were areas
[39:02]
that would be advantageous
based on crime
[39:08]
but there to say where there I mean I
could provide you a list of all our
[39:11]
cameras I didn't bring that information
I I guess I'm worried this question is
[39:16]
you know seems like there's already a
lot of cameras would these additional 10
[39:21]
cameras even add to finding like you
know are these Are there any gaps right
[39:28]
now with these
>> No, what is the like what is the reason
[39:34]
behind the additional cameras?
>> Sure. I mean there's there's plenty of
[39:37]
gaps. Um one is the towns and
unincorporated uh didn't coordinate when
[39:42]
they decided to put these cameras in
specific areas. Um
[39:47]
I mean there's there's plenty of gaps,
but I mean how how far wide is the gap?
[39:52]
I don't know.
There was a vehicle involved that I hit
[39:55]
run the other day that for three hours
and I have no idea how this vehicle
[40:03]
clock came.
Did they know there was clock cameras?
[40:07]
They know what specific route to take.
They just happen to go to one specific
[40:10]
place at home. No clock cameras. I can't
say. Um, but would additional 10 I mean
[40:21]
I can't say 100% certain. Are these 10
going to make a difference in the world?
[40:25]
Maybe. Are they not? Maybe it's the same
with with any camera that we have.
[40:31]
We haven't we haven't solved every crime
that's come to us since we've had Flock
[40:35]
installed, but they are useful tool.
[40:40]
Any
[40:44]
other questions?
>> What's your name?
[40:48]
» Oh, my name Todd. T O D
[40:54]
S Z E L U G A.
[41:04]
» Thank you.
[41:08]
At this time, we'll move to agenda
seven,
[41:14]
approval of our bills for payment. May I
have a motion, please?
[41:22]
» I move to approve the bills for payment,
the board audit report of 2426
[41:28]
to 342026 for the amount of $421,535.
[41:35]
I have a second.
I'll second. Thank you. Any discussion?
[41:41]
Hearing no discussion. Cliff man.
>> Trusty Sland.
[41:45]
» Yes.
>> Trusty Nestner.
[41:47]
» Yes.
>> Trusty Ringo.
[41:48]
» Yes.
>> Supervisor Murray.
[41:50]
» Yes.
>> All right. That's four yeses. Motion
[41:52]
passes.
>> Thank you.
[41:55]
» At this time, let's move to agenda
number nine on uh on the agenda. Um,
[42:03]
oh, excuse my my apology. My apology.
Um, agenda number eight, please. May I
[42:10]
have a motion?
>> I move to approve the 2025 2026 fiscal
[42:15]
town year amended budget and
appropriation ordinance number
[42:18]
YT-03-10-26T.
[42:24]
» Thank you. Second. I will. Thank you.
Any discussion? So to to clarify this is
[42:32]
for the amended town budget from agenda
number four.
[42:37]
» Correct.
>> To incorporate the
[42:44]
» Yes.
And and other items as as the chief
[42:48]
staff.
>> That's so just just to clarify and and
[42:54]
all transparency.
Um, I guess my question for the board um
[43:00]
is if we approve this but then determine
not to move forward with the LPR, do we
[43:09]
have other opportunities to use that
fund for something else?
[43:17]
» I'll speak to that. Um, no. Um the the
timing of this and uh the def the
[43:26]
definition of the use of funds under the
police levy limits us in terms of what
[43:33]
we can do with that money.
[43:38]
» So what would happen with that money if
we did not approve the LPR?
[43:45]
» Then it would be left to uh tax
objections. Um, typically that is uh in
[43:53]
the past has been um McDonald's that
would uh uh formally object to it and
[43:58]
they would receive the entire amount.
[44:04]
» Can you can we come up as a can we as a
board come up with another use?
[44:16]
» Um I can comment on that. I actually did
try um to come up with a few other
[44:20]
options. Um one of them was to get some
signage um that you know like you know
[44:27]
the signs that tell you your speed
limit. They gave some suggestions on
[44:31]
areas to put that but those are an
eyesore. I don't think that people want
[44:35]
them in their neighborhoods. Um so that
was kind of passed over. I tried to
[44:40]
think of another reason another
need car or something like that. Um the
[44:46]
answer was no. Um apparently they're
very well funded and don't have a lot of
[44:51]
other uses for um us to send that money.
[45:01]
» Um and you and you said that um this
would go to a tax objectionist.
[45:07]
Can you explain what that means?
That's person or a business or entity
[45:13]
that uh looks at government agencies,
looks at their um their budgets, their
[45:20]
appropriations, what they have uh in in
the name. Um and if they have over
[45:27]
certain amounts um they file an
objection and uh the courts uh
[45:34]
validate that objection and and then um
demand Can we give that money to them?
[45:43]
» And this is due to the fact that they
have paid certain amount of property
[45:47]
taxes
and some of this would return back to
[45:52]
» you said McDonald's but it could be any
>> could be any first the first entity that
[45:58]
that files usually get
>> and they would get the full amount
[46:03]
of
>> they would get the full amount.
[46:05]
» What are the implications of that?
[46:12]
would like that obviously just is uh
funds that go unused um and uh and
[46:21]
really not fair distribution.
So when you're seeing these funds is
[46:25]
that they're used um in in a way to um
you know to you know help people um and
[46:34]
as as there's always
with with anything. There's always um
[46:42]
what is intent. So when you look at
something and you look at the intent of
[46:47]
something um I could say uh you know
tonight I could have had the family from
[46:52]
just down the street here at 16th and
Myers Road um come for public comment.
[46:58]
Um their their father their husband um
was murdered right in their own uh
[47:04]
driving and there was
camera there. Um, that camera would have
[47:11]
picked up the car that drove up and and
and actually performed that heinous
[47:16]
crime. Um, we we do know that that that
the car was there. We do know from other
[47:24]
um types of devices like a camera um
that the car was picked up, but those
[47:29]
cameras did not have um any any license
plate. They're not designed for that. Um
[47:36]
so there's with the use and the property
use. It it is a benefit of of the
[47:43]
township residents and and having an
amount like this go on use for the
[47:48]
township residents um to me is is not is
not a wise decision. So, we're hearing
[47:56]
from the community that they don't want
this. Um, and
[48:02]
I feel we have a responsibility to
listen to our residents. Um, they don't
[48:08]
want our tax dollars to purchase
equipment that we feel is not in our
[48:13]
best interest. Um, we may have a duty to
find other uses for that money or
[48:21]
maybe it means it goes to the tax
objectionist.
[48:26]
I I'm I'm feeling like we should take
that into consideration as well. So I
[48:31]
don't know what
what approving this agenda item would
[48:35]
mean if we ultimately determine that we
do not want to purchase these cameras.
[48:40]
Well, the only alternative at this point
um [clears throat]
[48:44]
is um is is then to have a special
meeting in in two days um to segregate
[48:51]
[snorts] this off the agenda and and uh
address it in in two days. We'll give a
[48:58]
public notice of the word. Um but um
really other than that um the time's uh
[49:07]
really ticking and at the end of this
month um we run out of the time to be
[49:11]
able to disperse those funds.
>> Could you clarify to have them dispersed
[49:17]
by the end of the month or we just have
to have an agreement that by the end of
[49:22]
the month?
>> We have to have a certain amount of it
[49:26]
dispersed by that end of the month. Um
we have to have a certain amount of the
[49:31]
work um completed or the RFP um for this
was substantial completion by that month
[49:40]
um so that funds could be dispersed for
that purpose.
[49:48]
I just have a comment. I feel like we've
been talking about this for
[49:54]
three months and um
and I know that it's a tricky issue. Um
[50:01]
we've heard from some people today that
are not in favor of it and have their
[50:07]
suspicions
based on some
[50:12]
evidence from other areas that there
have been cases of abuse. Um, I wanted
[50:19]
to ask
[50:24]
about a follow question on their
frequently
[50:33]
questions about people.
[50:38]
It seems to me that they have checks in
place for access to the system. Um, it's
[50:44]
probably a good idea for us to also
enter
[50:52]
saying that no outside agencies have
access to
[50:57]
camera system.
[51:02]
But I think that this is a good use of
something that adding 10 cameras 65
[51:08]
cameras just increases helps a system
that's already designed to try and track
[51:23]
doesn't sound.
[51:32]
So
there are some logical fallacies about
[51:36]
saying
[51:39]
bad.
[51:44]
So I don't maybe
[51:50]
and I think
so
[51:55]
first
[52:00]
and then move on to
[52:08]
I think let's not refuse to do
let's make sure
[52:19]
addressific.
[52:31]
Okay. Any other further discussion or
so we have a motion in front of us.
[52:42]
Mayor, roll call vote, please.
>> Trusty Sland,
[52:46]
» yes.
>> Uh, trusty Mner,
[52:48]
» yes.
>> Trusty Ranger,
[52:50]
» yes.
>> Supervisor Murray,
[52:51]
» yes. Or yes. Motion carries.
Thank you.
[52:57]
Item number nine on our agenda, approval
of contract for purchase of the police
[53:02]
equipment LP. I have a motion for that,
please.
[53:11]
I will motion for that then. Um I will
motion uh to move that the bid proposal
[53:18]
in the amount of $73,9260
[53:24]
and the contract for the 2026 York
Township license plate reader solution
[53:29]
project be awarded to Minute Man
Security and Life Safety Inc. as the
[53:33]
lowest responsible and responsible
bidder. I further uh state that the
[53:40]
township supervisor and the township
clerk be authorized and directed to sign
[53:44]
and attest and respectively respectfully
respectively
[53:50]
the form agreement including in the bid
packet for set project subject to final
[53:57]
attorney review and approval.
>> Second
[54:02]
have a second. Do I have any discussion?
Yeah, I have a few thoughts. Um, so one
[54:09]
thing I would like to say just as a
point of clarification is this was first
[54:12]
brought up in the February 10th meeting.
So we I feel like we've been discussing
[54:16]
this a lot because I know there's been a
lot of um
[54:20]
u concern about this item. Um we really
had only a little over 30 days. Um also
[54:27]
my big concern and this I keep coming
back to this but I really don't feel
[54:31]
like we're going to have any asurances
that the usage of the data as presented
[54:35]
tonight is going to always be the usage
of the data. Um as our you know county
[54:41]
sheriff department can um change it
usage. I don't think that township is
[54:46]
going to be able to carve out those 10
cameras will be used for different
[54:50]
crimes than the other 65 cameras
already. So I think once we do this it's
[54:56]
out of our control. And the thing second
thing is I'm going to be a little
[55:00]
concerned about when we do the budget
next year and we are trying to come up
[55:03]
with us at the very last minute for
budget um spend I would suggest that we
[55:10]
reduce the budget in this category until
they can come up with some very good
[55:14]
uses for you know
essentially community.
[55:19]
Um I don't think we should put any
additional money um other than the
[55:23]
amount for the contract with um They
don't have this money and they're just
[55:31]
scraping
money.
[55:35]
That's my two comments on that.
>> Yeah, I I agree. Um I I feel like I've
[55:42]
learned some information today that was
not quite apparent when I first learned
[55:47]
about this, you know, about a month ago.
Um so, you know, my concerns are, you
[55:53]
know, I thought we had the ability to
shut up access. I we had the ability to
[55:57]
say, you know, we don't want to have a
camera anymore. You know, we're just
[56:01]
going to shut it down because it's under
our servers or however I assumed, you
[56:07]
know, that it was going to be um
was going to be installed. So, this
[56:14]
makes me a little concerned. Um we don't
have ownership. We just providing the
[56:19]
funding to put 10 more cameras. You
know, that's big chunk. You know, we're
[56:25]
adding 265
um just in unincorporated township. That
[56:31]
feels excessive to me. Um
how do we know that's going to you know
[56:38]
solve more crimes? Haven't seen any data
that that would be the case. Um you know
[56:45]
$73,000 is a lot of money at the same
time. Um and trying to find some use
[56:52]
case for it. You know the 11th hour of
our fiscal years doesn't seem
[56:58]
appropriate as well. I
don't know. I don't feel that this is
[57:03]
the responsible use of our our funds
is not on board. You know, ACLU would
[57:12]
not have such a strong position on this
because of a few bad actors. There must
[57:15]
be some systemic um misuse across the
country
[57:21]
that it would be
a very strong position on um
[57:29]
I I would prefer we we table this for
another I don't know week or so to come
[57:34]
up with if we must use the money we find
something else that we use it for
[57:40]
or we let it go by the end of the month
back to whoever objects to it.
[57:48]
Okay.
[57:51]
» Any other further comments?
>> I mean, I think the problem is we can't
[57:57]
go
on,
[58:02]
» right? The only other thing we can do is
approve it tonight and then go back to
[58:09]
to page contra
with our guidelines to it. We are
[58:14]
purchasing hardware and And you know we
could specify as to what that policy is
[58:22]
in using that hardware. Um you know the
idea has already been um formulated with
[58:28]
the with the page um and uh you know my
interactions with them um they're
[58:35]
perfectly reasonable with with an IGA
that would specify anything.
[58:41]
» So I want to clarify too um we don't
have to use this money if we don't spend
[58:49]
it by the end of the month, it goes to
the tax injection.
[58:57]
» It may or may not, but there is no
there's nothing that is, you know,
[59:02]
requiring us to use this money. It's
just that if we don't use this money, it
[59:06]
may or may not go to a taxion. Um,
>> well, just for point of clarification,
[59:12]
it will go to the tax objections.
that that will happen. It happens with
[59:18]
um and somebody used AI tonight. Um if
anything, AI will be used to gather
[59:25]
those funds. Um that's what they that's
what companies do. They're in specific
[59:30]
business um to surveil governments and
surveil governments
[59:38]
extra money that is left over after the
the fiscal year.
[59:42]
» Correct. So if we don't use the money by
the end of the month, it goes to this
[59:47]
next process, that doesn't necessarily
mean I guess I don't see
[59:54]
» it also cost the township money to to
even litigate that. I mean you you're
[59:59]
going to have you're going to have
litigation fees just for the response
[1:00:04]
and and paper of the tax injections as
well. Um so um you we need to
[1:00:12]
be aware of everything that's going to
happen in that.
[1:00:15]
» Yeah, it would not exceed $73,000.
[1:00:20]
» The litigation will exceed $73,000.
Um litigation is on top of the $73,000
[1:00:30]
that would go into the taxes. So when
they file, litigation fees are on top of
[1:00:38]
any uh sum that is litigated.
>> Do we have to Isn't it important though
[1:00:44]
that this money has to be used
specifically for
[1:00:50]
if we don't use it for then it just is a
budget surplus
[1:01:02]
» can't use it for legal fees we can't use
it for
[1:01:05]
» I see okay um do we have to litigate
[1:01:11]
Well, just to respond to something, we
have to respond with with legal counsel.
[1:01:16]
Yes. So, we can minimize
that expense, but there there's also an
[1:01:21]
expense that will be related to that.
>> Um, if I'm wrong, aren't we currently
[1:01:26]
operating a township without
[1:01:36]
money?
[1:01:40]
I can look into that to hire and asking
uh the the sheriff's that I have been in
[1:01:48]
discussion with them about uh that
police officer and have asked them the
[1:01:53]
point one question is there anything we
can do to to receive
[1:01:58]
a police officer here at the time we are
receiving coverage um you know according
[1:02:05]
to them being the contract Um we are
receiving uh coverage um for the
[1:02:12]
township and uh although the police
officers not checking in with us on a
[1:02:18]
daily basis as we um are
used to um according to management
[1:02:27]
sheriff's department we are receiving
coverage
[1:02:38]
I guess kind of really I'm surprised we
can't go to a private
[1:02:44]
money actually.
[1:02:51]
The only other thing that I could offer
at this time is uh is is that we take
[1:02:56]
this up under a special feeding um that
would take place um in a couple of days
[1:03:02]
or or by this time next week. Um and and
with that, I would just ask the the
[1:03:08]
board to to give me specific direction
as to as to what information to gather
[1:03:15]
for that special need. Um but um other
than that, um I don't
[1:03:22]
a viable way to use uh the funds other
than for
[1:03:30]
» I mean so we don't know how the the
police contract is written if we can
[1:03:35]
hire our own separate since ours is not
currently available outside
[1:03:40]
» so so when you say trusting me to hire
our own um specifically we would have to
[1:03:47]
have a a deputiz
United
[1:03:52]
company should we would not be able to
hire somebody from work or another
[1:03:57]
agency with that levy.
>> Okay.
[1:04:14]
I I would be in favor of tableing this
and revisiting in
[1:04:21]
few days next week. Um, you know,
I think there's probably more questions
[1:04:28]
that we have now. Um, and I also would
like to see another option with these
[1:04:34]
funds. Um, you know,
the sheriff's department to find
[1:04:40]
something else that is not in health
decision. Um
[1:04:46]
I I think we need to do a little
disappointed. I did actually reach out
[1:04:52]
to a former
and ask him specifically what else you
[1:04:57]
come up with for these signs and his
response was those signs that your speed
[1:05:04]
or something like that. I said it's
quite
[1:05:08]
better use
that neighborhood.
[1:05:16]
So
comes up with something.
[1:05:31]
Yeah, I would still other use. Um and
then I also just to kind of reiterate
[1:05:39]
earlier investment that didn't
the budget for next year
[1:05:45]
since we are
[clears throat] the budget for next year
[1:05:51]
staff [snorts] and myself
[1:05:55]
would be that we would not meet the
requirement for tax objections right
[1:06:00]
now. So
>> how much do we actually have to
[1:06:06]
75,000
[1:06:12]
» and then we'll have an amount that we're
carrying over next year.
[1:06:17]
» Yes, 75,000 is just the overage. Um
there will be um a portion that carries
[1:06:23]
over to next year just like in any of
our funds. There's a portion um that is
[1:06:28]
not subject to tax objections.
[1:06:34]
So, what I'm hearing from the board
right now is to remove this from our uh
[1:06:39]
agenda um and to reconvene um uh next
week um to take this up.
[1:06:56]
» You make a motion to postpone.
>> Yeah. Motion would be
[1:07:05]
So, can I hear a motion on that?
>> A motion to move to a future meeting.
[1:07:11]
» Special meeting.
>> We have a second. Any discussion on
[1:07:14]
that?
Court may
[1:07:19]
» Yes.
>> Trusty Mer.
[1:07:20]
» Yes.
>> Trusty.
[1:07:21]
» Yes.
>> Supervisor.
[1:07:23]
» Yes. Motion passes.
Thank you.
[1:07:29]
So on to item number 10 on our agenda.
I move to accept the resignation of
[1:07:36]
former trustee comment Joseph Amore
received on and effective immediately on
[1:07:43]
February 12th, 2026.
[1:07:48]
May I have a second?
>> A second.
[1:07:52]
» I have a second. Any discussion?
Hearing no discussion. May I have a roll
[1:07:57]
call, please?
>> Trusty Sland,
[1:07:59]
» yes.
>> Trusty Mner,
[1:08:00]
» yes.
>> Trusty Ringo,
[1:08:02]
» yes.
>> Supervisor Murray,
[1:08:03]
» yes.
>> Or yes, motion carries.
[1:08:09]
Agenda number 11. Um, this is
this is for the approval um of the
[1:08:19]
appointment of the trustee under section
60-5 of the township code. expressively
[1:08:26]
authorizes the township board to fill a
vacancy in the office of township
[1:08:31]
trustee by appointment within 60 days.
The office of trustee has been vacant
[1:08:37]
for 26 days since February 12th, 2026.
I move to appoint Maxim Wolf as your
[1:08:47]
township trustee pursuing to section
60-5 of the township code with the
[1:08:53]
warrant to issue. Is there a second?
>> A second.
[1:08:59]
» Do I have any discussion?
Hearing no discussion. May have a roll
[1:09:04]
call vote.
Southern
[1:09:07]
» yes.
>> Trusty Mner.
[1:09:08]
» Yes.
>> Ringo.
[1:09:11]
» Yes.
for yes motion passes. Thank you. At
[1:09:16]
this time, uh Maxi, may you step up and
receive the oath of office, please
[1:09:34]
state it.
I will speak your name. I Maxie Wolf
[1:09:40]
» solemnly swear that I will support the
Constitution of the United States
[1:09:45]
» the I do solemnly swear that I will
support the Constitution of the United
[1:09:48]
States
>> and the Constitution of the State of
[1:09:51]
Illinois
>> and the Constitution of the State of
[1:09:53]
Illinois
>> and I and that I will faithfully
[1:09:56]
discharge the duties of the office of
your township trustee to Page County,
[1:10:01]
Illinois to the best of my ability
>> and that I will faithfully discharge the
[1:10:06]
duties of the office of Yorktown Trustee
Duke Page County, Illinois. To the best
[1:10:10]
of my ability.
>> Thank you. Congratulations.
[1:10:19]
» One moment, please. Just one moment. I
just want to take your sign.
[1:10:37]
Thank you. Congratulations.
[1:10:44]
» Yes. You can now gather your belongings
to come to the
[1:10:57]
» Thank you.
[1:11:04]
Welcome.
As we've got many things on the agenda
[1:11:09]
tonight, I want to um to progress along.
So, we move to number 13 on our agenda.
[1:11:16]
A reimbursement um for plant Joseph Mory
Eagles project.
[1:11:23]
Then motion, please. I move to approve
the expense reimbursement to Clement
[1:11:27]
Joseph in the amount of $47347
[1:11:32]
for the Eagle Scout.
>> Do I have a second?
[1:11:37]
» Second.
>> Any discussion on this matter?
[1:11:42]
Hear no discussion. Clerk play.
>> Yes.
[1:11:47]
» Trusty.
>> Yes.
[1:11:48]
» Trusty Mner.
>> Yes.
[1:11:50]
» Jessie,
>> yes.
[1:11:51]
» Supervisor Murray,
>> yes. Five passes. Motion carries.
[1:11:56]
» Thank you. Number 14 on our agenda,
approval of America 250 celebration. May
[1:12:01]
I have a motion?
[1:12:07]
I move to approve the expenditure of up
to $30,000 for the America 250
[1:12:12]
celebration and I authorize and direct
the supervisor and to sign and attest
[1:12:16]
respectively any and all agreements and
further of the event and authorize the
[1:12:21]
superior to take all actions necessary
approve sorry necessary and appropriate
[1:12:28]
to effectuate the event.
>> Thank you.
[1:12:33]
I second
>> here in a second. Any discussion
[1:12:38]
hearing? No discussion. May I have a
roll call vote, please? Wolf,
[1:12:41]
» yes.
>> Trusty,
[1:12:43]
» yes.
>> Trusty Mner,
[1:12:44]
» yes.
>> Trusty Rego,
[1:12:46]
» yes.
>> Supervisor Murray,
[1:12:47]
» yes.
>> All right. If I miss motion pass. Thank
[1:12:51]
you. Item number 15. May I have a motion
for the approval of the uh AV contract?
[1:12:59]
Yes. I move to approve the Exonics
system quote of $15,1647
[1:13:09]
and that the township supervisor and
clerk be authorized and directed to sign
[1:13:14]
and attest respectively the agreement
subject to final attorney review.
[1:13:20]
» Thank you. Any discussion?
>> Um I just want to say that I I
[1:13:24]
personally feel like this is something
we really need from the board. Um we've
[1:13:28]
had a lot of feedback that we not able
to be heard um as we're live streaming
[1:13:33]
on that tiny little quote over there. Um
these uh microphones we're using are a
[1:13:38]
little [clears throat] dated um cut out
on us. So I I just want to um stress
[1:13:43]
that I think this is something that a
very good use of our time.
[1:13:51]
Yeah, it's going to allow us to not only
get better microphones, but also have
[1:13:55]
integrated system so that we can do
teams meetings, have presentations for
[1:14:01]
remote people on the projector.
We'll have a camera in the back that
[1:14:07]
allows, you know, everybody be able to
live stream
[1:14:13]
with my phone. I don't think it's
um and so I think the We we had we had a
[1:14:21]
couple of really good bids. I went back
to those
[1:14:25]
both vendors, discussed their bids with
them, had them revised them to make sure
[1:14:30]
we had the right number of microphones
specifically and the different equipment
[1:14:35]
choices that they made. They went
through very patient and very helpful
[1:14:41]
and I think that Exon is our best
option.
[1:14:46]
they were a lower cost option and it was
because of their selection of certain
[1:14:51]
technologies that I think are
advantageous to us
[1:14:56]
time but I think yeah I think that I'm
very happy with the responses that we
[1:15:02]
had both vendors were great
[1:15:07]
» and just for clarifications to the board
um because this is slightly over the um
[1:15:13]
uh $164
47 over the previous approved amount.
[1:15:20]
» Correct. That's why it's in front of the
board tonight. Otherwise, a couple weeks
[1:15:24]
ago, we would have took action on this.
Um, so just want to acknowledge that and
[1:15:30]
thank Trusty for taking on the challenge
of uh of
[1:15:37]
reviewing the vendors and determining
the best course action. My pleasure. Any
[1:15:43]
other further discussion?
>> Who missed a second motion?
[1:16:02]
» Trusty Wolf.
>> Yes.
[1:16:04]
» Trusty Southerntherland.
>> Yes.
[1:16:05]
» Trusty Mesner.
>> Yes.
[1:16:06]
» Trusty.
>> Yes. Supervisor Murray.
[1:16:09]
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion carried. Motion passes.
[1:16:13]
» Thank you. Um item number 16 on our
agenda. Thanks. Um may I have a motion,
[1:16:20]
please?
>> I motion to approve the annual town
[1:16:25]
agenda with resolution of the
benediction from the agenda.
[1:16:29]
» Thank you. Mayor second.
>> Trusty Mner second.
[1:16:36]
Any discussion?
Hearing no discussion. manual bubble.
[1:16:46]
» All right. I got trusty.
>> Yes.
[1:16:48]
» Trusty S.
>> Yes.
[1:16:50]
» Trusty Mer.
>> Yes.
[1:16:51]
» Trusty.
>> Yes.
[1:16:52]
» Supervisor Murray.
>> Yes.
[1:16:54]
» I motion passes. Thank you. Item number
17, supervisor statement of financial
[1:17:00]
affairs. May I have a motion, please?
>> I move to approve the supervisor
[1:17:04]
statement of financial affairs.
>> Thank you. Second. Second.
[1:17:09]
Thank you. Discussion
>> discussion. Roll call vote clerk.
[1:17:15]
» Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:17:17]
» Mner,
>> yes.
[1:17:18]
» Trusty,
>> yes. Supervisor Murray,
[1:17:21]
» yes. The motion passes. Thank you. Item
number 18 uh on our agenda is the road
[1:17:27]
bridge workshop. Um may I have
commissioner caring uh join us at the uh
[1:17:34]
podium for discussion of this. Uh and
I'll read a brief uh statement before uh
[1:17:42]
Commissioner Karing takes over and and
speaks to the specific numbers. Um we'll
[1:17:48]
present the total appropriations
uh for the proposed fiscal year 2026
[1:17:55]
2027.
The total appropri appropriations
[1:17:59]
represent the maximum amount the
township is authorized to spend across
[1:18:04]
all funds for a fiscal year. This
includes funding for operations,
[1:18:08]
personnel, contracted services, capital
expenditure, and other plan program
[1:18:14]
costs.
So, prior to the town fund, um we'll
[1:18:19]
speak to the road district budget. Um
commissioner car the general fund
[1:18:28]
26 2264,650
[1:18:36]
fund is at 5,500.
The FICA fund is 55,000.
[1:18:42]
The permanent fund is 3 million
10,400
[1:18:48]
building and equipment fund is $492,500
[1:18:54]
which makes the total appropriation
3,828,50.
[1:19:03]
Thank you. Any discussion on the board?
Do you uh have at your fingertips what
[1:19:10]
the road front was for last year?
[1:19:17]
» If you don't, that's okay. I'm just
curious.
[1:19:23]
It It is less
less this year's general election.
[1:19:27]
» Yes. predict reasons for it to be less
efficiencies or
[1:19:33]
» well I well I don't Commissioner Perry
you can you can comment to that I I will
[1:19:39]
comment um from from a taxpayer point of
view in my neighborhood and throughout
[1:19:43]
Dun we're in a very different part of uh
New York Township all the roads were
[1:19:50]
ground and resurfaced so last year's uh
last year's lunch raers
[1:19:58]
Correct.
>> Yes.
[1:20:03]
» That's what I felt.
[1:20:10]
» Okay. Thank you.
[1:20:19]
» Any other comments?
Hearing no other comments, we'll move to
[1:20:24]
the top front.
[1:20:28]
Okay, from the town funds perspective,
um that's that's a tab uh number 19 on
[1:20:35]
your on your agenda if you want to go
through that. Um on page one, the
[1:20:40]
general fund is is the total
appropriations is $4,532,900.
[1:20:49]
IRF fund is $18,000.
FICA is $160,000.
[1:20:56]
The GA fund is $296,350.
[1:21:02]
Police fund $167,500.
[1:21:07]
And a community mental health fund,
which is new this year to us, is
[1:21:11]
1,446,000.
[1:21:15]
Total appropriations 6,620,000.
[1:21:22]
$620,750.
Excuse me.
[1:21:27]
Any questions?
[1:21:32]
» Hearing no questions. Um I will conclude
that part of our agenda. Um there is no
[1:21:37]
vote at this time um for this. We will
be taking this up at our May 12th
[1:21:44]
meeting and voting on it May 12th.
[1:21:48]
At this time, I also direct the clerk to
please publish the notes of the public
[1:21:53]
hearing in the newspaper during the week
of April 1st.
[1:22:01]
Hearing nine, we're going to try to
expedite things as much as we can.
[1:22:06]
Number 20 on our our agenda, approval of
financial administrative coordinator job
[1:22:12]
description. May I have a motion for
that, please?
[1:22:15]
» Sure. I move to approve the financial
and administrative
[1:22:18]
job description and direct the
supervisor and chief of staff to
[1:22:23]
determine competitive salary range and
position.
[1:22:27]
» Thank you.
[1:22:31]
» Thank you. Any discussion?
>> Uh yeah, I think we need clarification
[1:22:34]
on this.
[1:22:45]
» Yes, thank you for that clarification.
Uh, trustee me.
[1:22:49]
» Yes. So, this is not new incremental.
This is a switch adjustment.
[1:22:55]
» Correct. And just to put a little bit of
color to that, um, chief of staff and
[1:22:59]
myself, um, we we constantly analyze our
our staff, our productivity. And what we
[1:23:06]
found is, um, uh, in in looking at our
maintenance area, we don't have as a
[1:23:12]
need for a maintenance person. And we
found that our contract at janitorial
[1:23:17]
services would be able to back us up on
larger events such as the Valentine's
[1:23:23]
Day um event and other events. Um and
therefore we we we don't need that
[1:23:29]
position. Um we did know that we were
going to need at some point um a
[1:23:34]
position in administrative and financial
area with the chief of staff um taking
[1:23:38]
on uh an expanded role and that's what
this job description entails. Any
[1:23:47]
other discussion?
>> I have a question. Will the salary range
[1:23:51]
uh come back to the board for approval?
>> In this motion, I'm listing the salary
[1:23:57]
range to re to remain with the myself
and the chief of staff. Um the salary
[1:24:03]
range as I've mentioned to you um and to
others is in that 55 to 57 range. Um and
[1:24:10]
that's based upon um the search on on
the internet of governmental position
[1:24:16]
similar instances.
Um so does that mean the salary will be
[1:24:24]
determined by supervisor and chief of
staff. It will not come to the board.
[1:24:29]
» Correct.
>> Um
[1:24:33]
can I ask why
why why would why would it not come back
[1:24:38]
to the board?
um because we're trying to escalate the
[1:24:43]
the the filling of disposition uh and um
I think that that's an appropriate uh
[1:24:49]
conversation that we've had amongst the
board is to is to take some of that role
[1:24:55]
and and and provide it um to to to staff
and to supervisor. We haven't defined um
[1:25:02]
I think that my discussions with board
members have been um that uh the board
[1:25:08]
receives the passage of direct above.
[1:25:15]
» I think there might be a tornado.
[1:25:22]
» Yeah.
[1:25:34]
» Any other questions? I I find that like
a job position and salary range to be
[1:25:40]
kind of together when they were
introduced. It's hard to approve one
[1:25:44]
without the other. Um so I I just don't
know why that wasn't part of what the
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job description was especially when you
post a position
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um like law I think you have to post the
salary range
[1:26:00]
in Illinois.
Um, would we be able to just amen?
[1:26:20]
» I think we're defining a different role,
>> but it's still chief of staff and
[1:26:28]
supervisor staff.
>> Actually,
[1:26:33]
Yeah, that is something.
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» Well, yes.
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» Up to 60,000 is what you're suggesting,
trusting master.
[1:26:56]
» Yes, that's what I'm suggesting.
>> Because we would be you know, distills
[1:27:02]
come and determined based on
experience level or whatever, but only
[1:27:08]
up to a certain amount.
[1:27:14]
» Okay. Um, so amendment to the motion um
that that it includes up to $60,000
[1:27:23]
determined by the supervisor and is
second amendment. We all second the
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amendment.
>> Amendments been seconded. Any other
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further discussion?
>> May roll call vote, please.
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» All right. So, voting on the amendment.
Just
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» yes.
>> Sland.
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» Yes.
>> Trusty Mer.
[1:27:43]
» Yes.
>> Just
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Murray.
>> Yes.
[1:27:47]
» Okay. Five. Yes. The amendment passes.
>> Thank you.
[1:27:58]
» Yes.
Roll call vote on the original, please.
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» All right. Discussion. Trusty Wolf.
>> Yes.
[1:28:05]
» Justice.
>> Yes.
[1:28:06]
» Trusty Mner.
>> Yes.
[1:28:07]
» Trusty.
>> Yes. Super Murray.
[1:28:10]
» Yes.
>> The motion passes.
[1:28:16]
» Thank you. Uh item number 21, staff
reports.
[1:28:21]
So, on our staff reports, uh I'd like to
just highlight a couple of things on our
[1:28:27]
staff reports. Um our our transportation
folks, uh our
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our general assistance, we had six
active cases this month for general
[1:28:42]
assistance, 21
um applications. uh food pantry served
[1:28:48]
over 569
people. Uh we had uh donations in amount
[1:28:55]
of $10,320.
Um special note to city workers for
[1:29:00]
their donation of $10,000.
Uh, and
[1:29:06]
I wanted to just note out that um the um
general assistance area um paid out
[1:29:15]
$1,200 this month. The emergency
assistance paid out $9,540
[1:29:22]
um for a total of $10,740
in that department. Uh in our senior
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citizens area, just want to shout out to
a couple of birthdays. Uh, Marielle
[1:29:34]
Guerrero celebrated her 95th birthday.
Janette Morgan celebrated her 94th
[1:29:40]
birthday and Garcia Bracilia Ruez
celebrated her 82nd birthday.
[1:29:51]
» Uh, township communications report. Um,
we've had a number of our goals this
[1:29:56]
period. Um we've had uh press releases
in amount of four this this month. Media
[1:30:02]
mentions are published uh four and then
we had uh two newsletters. We started a
[1:30:10]
a staff news brief um an internal
newsletter and then um uh Christine uh
[1:30:17]
Tony took over the editor of the summit.
uh under our website um uh trustee radio
[1:30:25]
made comment on our website development
um in that area if you would like trusty
[1:30:29]
radio.
>> Sure. I mentioned that you might trust.
[1:30:33]
» Oh yes.
[1:30:37]
Uh as far as the website's concerned
and with our IT staff, we've gone over a
[1:30:46]
new template that they proposed
for a variety of reasons, most of which
[1:30:53]
is for the accessibility requirements
that we have to provide accessibility to
[1:30:59]
our website. So, this template is
completely compared.
[1:31:11]
Um, then uh we're also going through the
exercise of approving content for all
[1:31:19]
pages and that staff so they can mock
this up and we can start reviewing
[1:31:26]
starting with homepage then the detail
pages and eventually get the website up
[1:31:31]
and ready to go and then go live. So I
would anticipate that that will happen
[1:31:36]
in the next month. Great. Great. Thank
you. um for our road department. Um if
[1:31:41]
anybody has any uh questions,
Commissioner Karen is still here. Um but
[1:31:45]
their highlight was 163 Julie request uh
this month. Um and then from our
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assessor's office, uh I'll read a brief
statement um from Assessor Pelli.
[1:31:56]
Asessor's office focused on
intergovernmental collaboration,
[1:32:01]
workflow automation
uh and preparing for the 2026 assessment
[1:32:08]
year.
while continuing to strengthen
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relationships