[0:03] Hello, everybody. Welcome. We'll go ahead and bring the meeting to order. This meeting is being held in the council chambers, which are opened for public attendance and participation. The meeting is also to be live stream for public viewing, but not participation at the link identified in the agenda.

[0:19] Email comments sent and received by the city clerk, at least 24 hours before the meeting were distributed to the city council prior to the meeting. May I have a roll call, please.

[0:28] Mayor Harris.

[0:28] here. Vice Mayor Shaw, here. Councilmember Bumgarden, here. Councilmember Kurtcher, here. Councilmember

[0:36] Piscwally, here. All right, thank you very much. Everybody, please rise, and we'll have a

[0:40] indication by Pastor Daniel Callahan. Good to see you again, Dan. Follow by the Prejue of Allegiance

[0:45] led by Councilmember Kurtcher. Let's pray. Hopefully, Father, we thank you for life, we thank you for

[0:53] We pray that you would give guidance and direction to our city officials.

[0:57] Thank you for protecting us and giving us wisdom and direction that you would guide their

[1:04] thoughts and give them wisdom as they move our city forward.

[1:06] Thank you for blessing our city.

[1:08] We pray that you would turn the hearts of man and keep us safe.

[1:11] Thank you for first responders and their families.

[1:13] I pray that you protect them daily.

[1:15] Give them strength, mentally, and physically.

[1:18] Lord, may you pour your spirit out on this place or we thank you for blessing our city,

[1:23] blessing our government, our homes, our lives.

[1:26] Thank you for sitting in Christ's name, amen.

[1:31] Life.

[1:47] All right, thank you.

[1:49] City Attorney, we had, well, we actually

[1:50] had no close session today.

[1:53] Any agenda, modifications, gentlemen?

[1:56] All right, the only thing I may have,

[1:58] it's not considered a modification,

[2:00] but just a matter of decorum.

[2:01] We have a HVAC issue here today.

[2:03] You may have noticed it's a little warm,

[2:05] so I would just invite any gentleman who

[2:08] have a jacket on, if should you care to remove it?

[2:10] for your comfort, please feel free to do so.

[2:13] We have one taker so far, do I have two?

[2:16] Not yet.

[2:17] All right, we probably will eventually.

[2:20] All right.

[2:21] Item number one is a ceremonial presentation,

[2:23] but you have said, are transit?

[2:26] Or is yours, sir?

[2:35] Our Harris Distinguished Council members.

[2:38] My name is Matthew Moch.

[2:40] I've had the privilege of being the executive director

[2:42] of the U of the Sutter Transit Authority

[2:43] for almost exactly 11 months now.

[2:47] And thank you for the opportunity to be here this evening to provide you with an update on our ongoing efforts to improve transit service in the Bikana area.

[2:59] Particularly as envisioned in our next generation transit plan.

[3:06] That's our staff, by the way.

[3:09] No, no, I don't know who those folks are.

[3:11] Our next generation transit plan or our next gen plan was adopted by our board.

[3:16] in May of 2023 and serves as our short range transit plan for services in the area, you can

[3:24] think of it as our five-year business plan. Such plans are typically done about every five

[3:29] years and are required mechanisms for certain state and federal funding eligibility and they

[3:35] do feed into regional transportation programming efforts. What was a typical about this time around

[3:43] in the development of the next-gen plan where the circumstances leading up to the development

[3:47] of it.

[3:48] Namely, the devastating effects of the pandemic related shutdowns on transit ridership.

[3:54] Truthfully, ridership on our system had been declining slightly since a peak in 2015 where

[4:00] we had around 1.3 million boardings that year.

[4:05] But in the first full year of the pandemic, from late 2020 through early 2021, ridership dropped

[4:12] over 60%. Almost immediately.

[4:17] So although ridership has grown almost 66% cumulatively speaking

[4:22] since then, we're still at about 2-3rds of the ridership that we were before 2020.

[4:29] So that necessitated a full top-to-bottom assessment of the service and resulted in some

[4:35] wholesale recommendations for changes to our service over the next few years. I wanted to

[4:42] make a note that the next-gen transit plan was a fiscally constrained plan. In other words,

[4:47] developed to be essentially cost-neutral or implementable with, with, for seen funding sources.

[4:57] So, not, not aspirational, in other words.

[5:03] So the goal here was an operational plan that delivered

[5:06] faster travel times, connections to previously underserved areas, better real-time information,

[5:13] improved local and regional access by serving new growing areas and connecting them with

[5:18] more dynamic, innovative, travel solutions where both logical and feasible.

[5:24] Improved operating performance, reducing cross-town delays and speeding up routes and

[5:30] layover times in the current system.

[5:34] The analysis resulted in a series of recommendations for improvements to be implemented in phases

[5:38] over the next three to four years, and across all of the basic types of service that we provide.

[5:47] Given the audience, and I believe the reason you invited me here tonight, I'll be focusing today

[5:51] on the recommended enhancements to the local services.

[5:54] Primarily our local fixed route services referred to in the plan as our cross-town services,

[6:01] and also our demand response services referred to in the plan as community services.

[6:08] So, phase one, which we're coming up on now.

[6:15] We had a phase zero, we've completed it just about, really was about ramp up to the service

[6:21] changes on the street, staffing changes, technology acquisitions, we did make some reductions

[6:28] to our commuter service, it became effective late last year, to free up some additional resources

[6:33] for new initiatives.

[6:36] So, phase one is about implementation beginning with local services within and connecting to

[6:42] UBCID.

[6:44] Not mentioned on this slide, but the first big ticket item of that is streamlining of our

[6:49] route one.

[6:50] Our route one is our trunk line of our local transit service.

[6:54] It runs from UBCID over in Linda all the way over to Sam's Club in UBCID.

[6:59] We have half hourly service by directional service on that route.

[7:04] Also loops around by the high school and then Wal-Mart on harder parkway and back around.

[7:12] We'll be streamlining that route and we'll reduce the cross-count travel time by about 20%.

[7:18] Not only does that make the trip faster across town but it also allows us to continue to provide half hourly service with one less bus as it happens.

[7:27] Then comes the replacement of routes to...

[7:30] 5, which are the two local fixed route services that service you was city primarily. And we're replacing

[7:36] that with a new on-demand service, or what is sometimes referred to as micro-transit, open

[7:45] to the general public. This is a service that's accessed by a phone app, or by calling into

[7:51] dispatch. And rise are scheduled without a reservation. Just depends on vehicle availability

[7:57] and response times. The service area that we're launching first in Ubicity will expand beyond

[8:04] where the fixed route actually services by quite a bit. I won't get in the details too much,

[8:11] but it kind of echoes and actually goes a little bit beyond where dialaride currently serves.

[8:16] So that's a general public service that's reaching well out from where fixed route is currently.

[8:22] And then services extended as well from 630 PM currently when our fixed route ceases to operate up until 8 PM on weekdays.

[8:33] So a later service as well as increased or expanded service area.

[8:39] And then as a part of that, because of the evening service there, we will be discontinuing what is currently a general public sort of underutilized general public dialeride.

[8:50] a railroad service that, again, I say underutilized just a handful of trips a day on that

[8:56] service and we'll be discontinuing that in favor of this later local service.

[9:04] Apologize, I think in retrospect, this is maybe a little bit out of place, but getting back to the

[9:09] plan development and we'll linger on this too much, I'm getting late on my time.

[9:14] But lots of data went into this report. Lots of good analysis, system ridership, route effectiveness,

[9:20] this travel pattern data, including GPS, available GPS data, and location-based data, trip

[9:28] origins and destinations, peer reviews, all of that kind of stuff.

[9:34] The bottom line is that if fully implemented is recommended, the system-wide ridership

[9:38] is projected to increase by up to 45%.

[9:41] And the effective coverage area of the service increases by about 60%.

[9:46] At approximately the same operating cost would adjust it for inflation.

[9:51] So again, the details, it's a long and detailed plan.

[9:54] I encourage you to read into its available on our website.

[9:58] I did bring a few hard copies of the executive summary

[10:01] if you'd like anybody's interested in that.

[10:04] It's a good read.

[10:07] So also, I wanted to just reassure the council

[10:10] that this was not done in the dark.

[10:14] Public surveys, two rounds of community open houses, stakeholder interviews, direct system

[10:19] observations, multiple boardwork jobs, and ongoing solicitation of public input throughout.

[10:25] I want to take the time to thank our board members for their participation, of course.

[10:30] One of the other public outreach efforts that we've set up recently is our micro-transit working

[10:35] group.

[10:35] This is a group of stakeholders within the new vicinity.

[10:38] I see some representatives on that micro-transit working group in the room today.

[10:42] Thank you to them.

[10:44] That's a small, again, working group of stakeholders,

[10:48] representatives from freed independent living,

[10:51] senior commission, the senior center,

[10:54] all getting together with our frontline staff,

[10:56] and working through some of the details of the implementation of these services

[10:58] and how they might affect the public.

[11:00] Resulted in some good recommendations for our board,

[11:02] and we're going to be carrying forward.

[11:06] So with that, I want to sort of just touch on the next steps.

[11:10] So this is an ongoing process.

[11:13] In a couple of days, we're going to meet with our board to discuss potential fair alternatives

[11:17] for these new services.

[11:20] And then also there's a public hearing that's already been set for the next board meeting

[11:23] on July 18th to really first take the series public input on this plan.

[11:30] It was always envisioned that as this plan is implemented in its phases, it would come

[11:34] back to the board and to the public for further discussion.

[11:37] So, nothing's said in stone at this point beyond what we've done today, or two date.

[11:44] So, again, public hearing set for the 18th, talk about service changes, potential

[11:48] fairs for the new system.

[11:50] Formal adoption of the phase one that I've gone through tonight will not be until the

[11:57] public has a few more chances to weigh in through late summer and the fall.

[12:01] I should mention that phase one is now scheduled for implementation around the first of

[12:05] the year.

[12:05] That's when the fixed routes would be replaced with that micro transit service for the general public.

[12:10] Of course, there'll be a big public education effort as we lead up to that rollout.

[12:16] And we've secured some extra consulting services to help us with that marketing outreach.

[12:21] And then, of course, there's a big technology aspect to this, so we are in the process of bringing on a vendor that will provide us with the software and the hardware for the vehicles that will run the system in the back and the app and allow people to easily access the service.

[12:35] So, with that, again, thank you for the opportunity to be here.

[12:41] I'm happy to answer any questions or try to answer any questions that you might have.

[12:47] Through the mayor, thank you for the presentation.

[12:51] I am a willing participant of the Senior Commission meetings.

[12:55] And I think I've mentioned this to them is it seems like we, at these meetings,

[13:01] that I'm hearing from the feedback from those stakeholders and participants,

[13:05] that we kind of go from here to there and here to there have we landed on a final plan or something

[13:12] that looks like the final plan I know you'd mentioned to open hearings but I guess I'm concerned

[13:17] that we started in one direction it appears that we went in a different direction and then we pivoted

[13:22] again and understand being nimble but have you guys kind of landed on where you're going to go with

[13:29] so that there's an ability to begin to educate and begin the transition?

[13:36] Yeah, I would say except for more minor details.

[13:41] We know that the plan is to roll out this on-demand service, this dynamic service that will

[13:48] provide kind of corner to corner service in a confined area.

[13:53] We know how we can provide that generally speaking.

[13:55] The exact boundaries have not necessarily been set.

[13:58] That's something we need to work through with the vendor.

[14:01] But then I think it's important to think that based on the real world

[14:04] experience that we have with that.

[14:07] It's the first time, you know, for some of us, deploying this kind of a

[14:11] micro-transit or app driven on-demand service here locally,

[14:17] although dial ride is somewhat of a dial ride.

[14:20] But this is a higher tech kind of version of that.

[14:22] There will be some real-world experience that we'll draw on as we do later phases and the

[14:29] idea is that within about the next 18 months, assuming that all is going well, we will

[14:35] begin to co-mingle some of our dialaride services potentially in this.

[14:38] We'll also roll out new zones for micro-transit service in Mary'sville and then in Olive

[14:45] in Linda as well. So it'll truly be kind of a cohesive system with a truncline, a

[14:52] frequent truncline, fixed route service, and these these zonal on-demand trips, serving

[14:58] both as of first mile last mile.

[15:00] Next to those cross town routes, order our commuters for that matter, and then circulating people

[15:06] sort of easily within those zones, where, frankly, the majority of the trips we see from the

[15:14] data are happening, or most of the demand. I'm not sure they answered your question, but

[15:18] I think so.

[15:19] We do have the basic bones.

[15:21] Yeah, I know. I appreciate that. We are going to roll this out for a little bit.

[15:24] That's what we do.

[15:24] That's what we do. I guess the other question, not I guess. I know the other question I have

[15:29] fairs. I know this is a big issue for especially for seniors who are on fixed and have you

[15:34] have you landed on a fair schedule yet or is that something that's still being contemplated?

[15:39] You had a recommendation that was adopted as part of the original plan. Again with the

[15:43] understanding that would come back to the board for final approval later closer to the implementation.

[15:48] But it did involve, for instance,

[15:51] for going monthly passes on our service in favor of just a

[15:55] daily cap and a monthly rolling cap that could only really be done with an electronic

[16:02] fair card, which we do have on our system. We do have that capability. And some of the

[16:09] initial feedback and actually some of the internal discussions with staff, we had some

[16:14] concerns about the fairs. And we looked through some of the scenarios. It could mean

[16:19] some significant out-of-pocket increases the out-of-pocket expenses for our writers.

[16:25] Our fairs have been really, really low, and it's a contributing factor to the wide usage

[16:32] of our local fixed routes.

[16:34] For those who are not familiar, folks who don't qualify for any sort of discount can get

[16:38] a monthly pass for $10 a month right now out of pocket to ride the local fixed route service

[16:43] for an unlimited for the entire calendar month.

[16:46] Folks who qualify for a discount by virtue of age or physical or mental challenge can get

[16:53] five dollars. Those are not the actual rates, but we kept those rates sort of subsidized

[17:00] with grant funding, and we've done so for many, many years. So what was proposed in the

[17:05] plan originally under certain scenarios that out-of-pocket expense for accessing the same

[17:12] local service could have gone up significantly. So that's why the board directed staff last

[17:19] month after a discussion to come back this month and we'll be doing so in the next two days

[17:25] at our board meeting to discuss an alternative that keeps fairs a little bit lower out of

[17:30] pocket. And then the July 18th is when we will officially sort of begin to take public comment

[17:36] on those fair that fair program. Bottom line is the one way fairs on the on the service are not

[17:41] likely to change. So $1.51 weigh 75 cents for persons who qualify for a discount by virtue

[17:50] of age or disability. And then we believe the right move at that point and staff will

[17:55] be recommending to the board that they consider keeping monthly passes for use of the two

[18:00] services, both the micro transit and the fixed route. They won't necessarily be $10 and $5, not

[18:07] certainly realistic, but we'll continue to use grant funds to buy down the cost out of pocket.

[18:12] And I believe, I don't think I'll be speaking at a turn that Jen has been published.

[18:16] We will be recommending a price that essentially keeps it at $10 for folks who qualify for

[18:23] a discount in $20.

[18:25] That would be for unlimited use of both the micro-transit and the fixed route services for

[18:29] calendar month.

[18:31] Appreciate that.

[18:32] Thank you.

[18:33] Appreciate the question.

[18:35] through the mayor. Matt, thanks for being here tonight. We've talked about this because I know

[18:39] this is Marksher and I've heard he's been a lot of concern about his is the service going

[18:43] away and I remember when we first came to introduce to micro transit it was more along the lines

[18:49] of think of it and it's not quite the same but it's like Uber for a bus because you basically

[18:55] click shoot they come get you and then they drop you off at a fixed point and going forward.

[19:00] Um, I'm glad you brought up the, uh, how we're back filling those fairs because they should be at the last meeting those fairs should be more than double

[19:08] where they actually are from monthly pass and it's been grants, you're like, fragment and some others that has brought it in and our LTF funding that comes from the city.

[19:18] That's where our LTF goes to, uh, to fund the local transit.

[19:22] So, um, glad you brought it up.

[19:24] We are aware of it, we're trying to keep the fairs as low as possible as a border.

[19:28] Our chairman's two seats down from me here, and I'm sure he'll probably chime in as well.

[19:33] But we're trying to find that push point of giving better service, but yeah, keeping everything

[19:39] as affordable as possible.

[19:41] And our oldest daughter used transit for years when she was going to college, and this

[19:46] is going to be so much better because she would literally have to walk from home to a bus

[19:51] up and then get in the system and go to where if this was available she could literally

[19:57] almost dial a rider, Uber bus, boom, pick up the corner and then off into the system

[20:02] and she did that rain or shine or 110 degree heat. So this is going to be so much better

[20:08] but we are going to try to keep the cost down. So thanks Matt.

[20:12] What was it?

[20:13] Good morning.

[20:15] Thanks for that presentation, Matt.

[20:17] Four days ago, we had a major major event in downtown Mary'sville.

[20:23] How is that affecting service and going forward?

[20:28] How is that going to affect service?

[20:31] It's affected us just about like it's affected everybody else.

[20:36] That's a good news about a micro-transit service, right?

[20:38] You can work around that stuff.

[20:41] We have been delayed.

[20:42] Our commuters actually interestingly enough have been the most affected.

[20:45] And so we began to reroute around, we've put into place some bus bridges to bring folks back

[20:52] to location from the 99 side rather than the Highway 70 side.

[20:58] Of course, the effects of performance of our route ones are route one and route four in

[21:02] the city.

[21:04] So we've, in some cases, we've had to bypass, but we're not officially dropping any stops

[21:10] necessarily.

[21:11] We've had some situations where Caltrans has done some last-minute street closures that did require us to divert around.

[21:20] But we're continuing to communicate with our passengers as best we can. We have social media feeds.

[21:24] We have lots of folks subscribed to our email alert system as well.

[21:29] And so we're making do as best we can, but I can't say it hasn't been difficult.

[21:34] And we've done, like I said, some additional services just to kind of get around it to try to keep people's trip times to something reasonable.

[21:43] Thank you.

[21:44] My pleasure.

[21:48] Well, thank you very much, sir.

[21:49] Appreciate your time.

[21:51] All right.

[21:57] Number two, the Appearance of Interested Citizens.

[22:00] You are welcome and encouraged to participate in this meeting.

[22:03] Public comment is taken on action.

[22:05] I am appearing on the consent calendar of business items on the agenda.

[22:09] When they are call, public comment on any other items within the scope of the city's jurisdiction, including items not listed on the agenda will be considered at this time.

[22:17] Public comment is limited to three minutes per speaker and members of the public submitting written requests, at least 24 hours prior to the meeting will be a lot of five minutes to comment per speaker.

[22:26] Repetitive comments may be limited and large groups are encouraged.

[22:30] Just to select representatives to express the opinions of the group. We have, excuse me, we have, let's see,

[22:44] John, you had, it says a agenda item number two, appearances, that's this, so you want to comment on the consent calendar, so on item on the consent calendar,

[22:58] well I've got one that says two and one that says eight, well you have two items, two things to talk about on number eight.

[23:08] Okay, number two is just okay.

[23:12] And

[23:17] if anybody else wants anything to say, please feel free to queue up.

[23:22] Good afternoon, honorable members of the council.

[23:26] It's nice to be here again.

[23:29] One thing last week or last time, June 4th, I believe, I listened to a presentation by a gentleman.

[23:36] I think very room.

[23:38] He went on and on and on for quite a long time and I couldn't make heads and tails of what

[23:46] he was trying to provide to us and thank you, Mr. Boom Garden, for your questions he

[23:51] tried to bring it to, hey, what's in it for me? And another time, a couple years ago I sat

[23:59] in a presentation that a vendor wanted to bring a hemp shop to the city and the chamber

[24:06] was full of people and they kept going on and on and on you feel like you're being filibuster.

[24:15] And everyone is waiting for the presentation to end but they kept okay well this is how it

[24:21] is how about you Sharon and they kept passing the ball back and forth.

[24:26] The reason I bring this up is the decisions that are made here and the folks that go for such

[24:33] long time,

[24:37] and the citizens have only three minutes to make response.

[24:41] I think that's unfair.

[24:43] Maybe the city would consider providing a time limit for certain vendors or their presentation.

[24:51] And I'm not talking about the gentleman that was here just before me.

[24:55] But for vendors, I don't think it's right for them to go on for hours.

[25:00] and it literally went out for like an hour and a half.

[25:05] I used to, in my previous life, as a construction engineer,

[25:10] we would put out contracts for 10, 15 million,

[25:14] six or seven construction companies would attend,

[25:18] and they had a 15 minute.

[25:20] Exactly 15 minute questions answers,

[25:23] and any presentation they have,

[25:25] and then we would make a selection on that.

[25:27] So this is my request to please consider for the benefit of time and fairness to citizens

[25:38] that have only three minutes to make a response to a two-hour presentation.

[25:46] And with that I'm done, if there is any question.

[25:47] You had to do one more thing about Bellyer, and you have 50 seconds.

[25:54] No, that's too.

[25:57] Just kidding.

[25:57] Okay, this thing happened to me a few months ago.

[26:02] I realized Valera Parking Lot is a private property,

[26:06] and there may be different rules governing that.

[26:10] Amongstable are taking a right lane going towards passing Starbucks,

[26:16] going towards UPS on the right lane.

[26:21] And there is another car coming in the same lane towards me.

[26:25] I flash my lights up, right, low, right, low.

[26:32] She, as it turns out later on, so I pull as far

[26:36] to the right as I can and I stop.

[26:39] Finally, she moves over and she looks at me

[26:41] and I say, why is she driving this way?

[26:44] So after further investigation, the stripes are all dashed white.

[26:52] The only place that you see yellow, which indicates opposing directions of traffic is

[26:59] right at the entrance at the entrance, or I will call it the gore.

[27:03] There is a dash, Chevron, in yellow.

[27:06] But the rest of it is all dashed white.

[27:10] And I think that can create a liability, it's a safety issue, eventually it hasn't happened

[27:19] me before and it hasn't happened since. But if anyone wants to talk to the owner of the property,

[27:26] I think that would be time well spent in terms of public safety. Did I make it in

[27:33] 20 seconds?

[27:36] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Anybody else carry a comment?

[27:43] Oh, okay, we'll move on to Mayor.

[27:45] We have a written request.

[27:47] I do.

[27:51] Suk.

[27:52] Suk Sugira.

[27:57] A.

[27:59] Why have it in front of me?

[28:01] Yes.

[28:02] I've got the bejons.

[28:04] It's on your agenda.

[28:12] Yeah, I see now where it says written request is he here.

[28:25] Well, thank you for your time and councilmember.

[28:27] I was here before to remind you guys of the issue.

[28:30] six, six, five down each street in UBCID solar installation issue on a half-plex. That was

[28:36] encroaching onto the other roof.

[28:41] I am the real estate agent for the seller. We sold the

[28:44] property last year, but we added issue with the lender, proving the loan for the buyer.

[28:50] Because of solar, it's a half-plex. It's encroaching onto the roof of six, six, five down

[28:56] history, it should be completely on six, seven, five down history.

[29:01] To get the deal closed, the lender included some conditions.

[29:07] Fix the issue, get the solar panels installed on the track roof, and give us a roof

[29:12] certification, tell us that it's not going to be a leak from the correction.

[29:17] You know, you guys refer to me to Doug Libby, help me out, you know, got things going.

[29:26] And I believe it finished the project, got everything corrected.

[29:30] But I'm still not getting any kind of documentation on the project's been completed.

[29:35] It's been inspected.

[29:37] Not the getting the Roof Cert served.

[29:39] Doug replied back saying it's the third party issue.

[29:42] We don't pay for Roof Certification for a third party.

[29:45] But, with the way process works with solar installation, solar companies and its

[29:51] plans to the city, they approve the installation.

[29:54] So the city approved the installation onto the

[30:00] The middle of the duplex, when it should have been on one side. There are other homes on the same street, which are also duplexes, insulation is done correctly.

[30:08] So whoever approved it at planning should have done their due diligence, pull the address of saw that it was a duplex.

[30:17] But that didn't happen. They corrected it, but I am not getting any kind of documentation that has been completed. So I can submit it to Title Company, and they can see if the lender will be okay with it.

[30:26] But most likely they're going to want a real certification.

[30:29] What I got was the same that Mike Campos would get back to me.

[30:34] Mike Campos told me to contact the solar company.

[30:36] Didn't give me a contact. Didn't give me a reference number.

[30:39] So I'm going to go back into the queue because I've done this before.

[30:42] To where I'm going to sit on 800 number.

[30:44] It's been about an hour. They're going to tell me I'm not the owner.

[30:47] I'm not the city. We can't speak to you.

[30:52] And then further research today, I'm talking to the owners.

[30:55] maybe they have some kind of documentation for work completion.

[31:00] They don't have anything.

[31:02] There are elderly couple, I spoke to the granddaughter, she's informed me that the city and the

[31:07] sort of company are trying to build them for the correction that was either solar companies

[31:15] fault or the city's fault because they just want to solar.

[31:21] Then it falls into the solar companies and in the city,

[31:24] approving the permits, that's the whole permit process, right?

[31:26] So things are done correctly.

[31:28] So that's where I'm at.

[31:29] I need a roof certification, so I can send it to town company.

[31:33] So we can appease the lender and be done with this.

[31:42] It looks to me like Ben would like to say something.

[31:53] Yeah, yeah, I mean, basically, we've

[31:55] checked in with staff, we definitely

[31:56] feel for the property owner that purchased the vendor.

[31:59] But there's a certain area when it goes in the private property

[32:02] and liability will be through the line.

[32:03] And so we're happy to work with the contractor,

[32:07] the inspectors, but when somebody submits us a plan that didn't have a property line, it was approved for how was done.

[32:13] We worked with him to modify that with the res middle, or we issued a permit, the inspectors went out,

[32:19] verified the work that it was corrected, moved, we closed out the permit, we've done a final inspection, that has been provided.

[32:26] As far as having an additional third party, certify a roof, that is not part of the city scope, and I'm not coordinating with Doug,

[32:34] we're trying to do that respectfully and give them guidance.

[32:37] So he's not spinning his wheels or we think his time.

[32:41] But really it's where we've worked with the individual.

[32:46] We definitely respect that we don't want to have this situation.

[32:49] We look out for it, but we can't know where a property line might be on every rooftop.

[32:54] And so there's responsibility with the solar company.

[32:56] We worked with them to help get the correct and move it.

[33:00] But it's really stuck with this third party individual.

[33:02] And we've given clear communication that the city is not going to contract with the third party vendor to provide that service.

[33:10] And so I'm happy to follow up with any written documentation or provide that permit, but that's kind of where we're at on the situation.

[33:18] I think the rule of the day is definitely you too need to have a comment.

[33:21] I'm not here to go back and forth sir. I see shaking your head. No, and there's a disagreement, but what we'll do this is not the time replace to go back and forth.

[33:30] Okay, so then would you do me favor and set up an appointment with the gentleman and you guys can have a conversation?

[33:35] Thank you.

[33:36] Anybody else?

[33:39] All right.

[33:40] We'll go on to consent calendar.

[33:42] All matters listed under consent calendar are considered to be routine and can be enacted in one motion.

[33:47] There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the time that council votes on the motion unless members of the city council request specific item.

[33:54] to be discussed or remove from the consent calendar for individual action.

[33:58] Due to recusals, which we have, we'll get to that in a second, items 11 through 13 will

[34:03] be voted on separately.

[34:04] Do we have any comments from the public on consent calendar items 3 through 10 and 14?

[34:11] I know we have one on number 8.

[34:14] So come on up, sir.

[34:15] Through the mayor.

[34:16] Go ahead, ma'am.

[34:17] Hold on.

[34:17] There's additional recusals.

[34:20] So when I vote tonight, since there is no other discussion,

[34:23] on item six and seven. We have property that lies within 300 feet of that property. So I will not be voting on six or seven.

[34:33] When I vote for the consent calendar tonight.

[34:37] Is it six seven and there's a was there something else to you.

[34:39] Yeah, and I'm on well as well.

[34:41] I was going to be taken separately correct.

[34:43] Well, we did last time Shannon we.

[34:46] We did one vote, but we just said when we're saying yes or no, we're not talking about those.

[34:50] we're accusing from is that correct that is correct on the consent calendar you can designate

[34:55] which items you're accused from and then just vote up and down on the entire consent calendar

[34:59] except for the items that you're accused on until you're excluding those one at number 12 because

[35:03] my residence like we got 12 you got so you know you have three recusels okay all right we're good

[35:08] there and john you have a comment on number eight excuse me mayor there are other council members

[35:15] that need to recuse themselves on items yeah what was since we're done with this will we'll go

[35:19] Thank you. I think I'll be leaving on that list. Go ahead.

[35:26] Thank you again. Item eight,

[35:33] there is some information available about the 2025 or 2024 estimate of completion.

[35:43] But I think it's deficient without having a construction estimate.

[35:50] You have attachments that are showing some streets being rehab and you're getting 1.8 million

[35:59] a year from AB1 funding and it looks like we have 3.5 million in reserve that hasn't been used.

[36:10] So as a citizen, I would ask, well, I need to make it into a comment.

[36:18] I think I would have expected to see some more construction projects using the three and a half million dollars that's sitting there.

[36:28] And I would like to see a construction estimate with the columns that are showing the project description, project location, estimated useful life and time line.

[36:42] And paragraph eight, with starting their resolution from the top, says,

[36:49] where's the funding from SB1 will help the CD maintain and rehabilitate and goes on and on?

[36:57] And the last line of that paragraph, throughout the city this year,

[37:05] hundreds of similar projects. That's either either over-explaining or too vague. I propose

[37:13] making up the hundreds of similar projects because you don't know what that really means

[37:19] and it can come back to get you or get everyone later on. What does 100 similar projects mean?

[37:27] So that's my proposal and request.

[37:30] Let's see.

[37:35] That's good, sir. Thank you. Thank you very much. Anybody else care to comment? All right. So we have recusals for 1112 and 13. I know I think you recuse myself from item number 13. So I will not be voting on that tonight. Anybody else?

[37:57] 11 and you're on 11 13 according my notes.

[38:03] 11 13. Anybody else?

[38:10] I'm recording my script here. It's 11.

[38:13] You need to accuse yourself from 11.

[38:17] Please excuse me for my number 11.

[38:19] Okay, so we have Mr. Boomgarden from 11.

[38:22] Mr. Pasquale from 11 as well.

[38:25] Vice Mayor Shaw from 12.

[38:28] Six and seven.

[38:30] And myself.

[38:32] And Council Mayor Pasquale from 13.

[38:36] Through the mayor?

[38:37] Yes sir.

[38:37] And just to clarify for the record,

[38:39] the recusels are based upon owning property

[38:41] with in the areas affected by these particular items?

[38:47] All right.

[38:49] All that happened in Clearers mud.

[38:51] We have a motion.

[38:53] Good to hear.

[38:54] Good to hear.

[38:54] Yes, sir.

[38:54] I move to approve consent counter items.

[38:58] 3 through 14.

[39:03] Second, with the recusels.

[39:05] Second, with recusels.

[39:06] So we have motion to approve consent counter items.

[39:10] 3 through 14 with recusels as just previously stated due to proper ownership in the

[39:16] say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. We're good. All right, consent calendar is approved. Now we move on

[39:25] to

[39:29] at a number 15.

[39:34] Presentation by Pioneer Community Energy.

[39:46] Thanks for having us here tonight

[39:47] and my apologies that I'm talking about electricity on the night that the air condition isn't

[39:52] working, but it's where I didn't plan that and I didn't take your offer on the jacket,

[39:56] but I did get rid of the tie. So, next slide, please. So, I just want to introduce

[40:01] Our team here tonight, we have Gina Stasi vanacor, director of

[40:06] Communications, Lisa de Lobby.

[40:09] You also be hearing from community outreach manager.

[40:11] And Jake is our Jake Crumbles, our newest employee.

[40:14] I didn't give him any slides tonight, because he just started.

[40:17] He's willing to help with the contract.

[40:19] And I also want to talk about our board chair,

[40:22] who's our council member from City of Auburn.

[40:25] We'd love to have been here tonight,

[40:26] happen to be, it's her wedding anniversary, but she sends her regrets and looks forward to talking

[40:31] with you all another time.

[40:33] So next slide, please?

[40:35] So just a lower the anxiety of what is this about?

[40:38] You're not joining Pioneer Community Energy tonight.

[40:41] What we're doing is talking about at the end of this presentation that actually I didn't

[40:46] we're looking at is to partake an impact assessment study that would be shared between

[40:51] in Sutter County, which has already said yes, in the city of live oak, which has already

[40:55] said yes.

[40:56] The maximum cost for all three to join this would be $15,000 in our board, which supports

[41:03] expansion with like-minded communities, is willing to fund the other half of the impact

[41:08] assessment study.

[41:09] So, Max is $15,000 to be shared amongst the three of you.

[41:13] And what that does, and we'll know the results around late August, would be we look at projected

[41:19] revenues at time of launch compared to the cost to serve the new load.

[41:27] And if it's positive, that means that the JPA isn't subsidizing new members, or current rate

[41:32] repairs are not subsidizing new members.

[41:34] It makes the JPA stronger.

[41:36] It also means that you can then partake in the same benefits as everyone else so it makes

[41:40] sense.

[41:40] If the numbers are not positive, then it's something that we would pause and we look at it

[41:46] at another time.

[41:47] So, just a very quick overview of what is a CCA.

[41:52] So, you're not serial number one.

[41:54] There's already about 25 CCA's in the state,

[41:59] serving more than 200 communities.

[42:01] How this really all started was, for some of you may remember,

[42:04] the craziness of the early 2000s with the energy crisis

[42:07] when California opened up the market

[42:10] and didn't go well.

[42:12] But out of that legislation happened,

[42:15] that said, how can local communities be able to secure energy on behalf of their communities

[42:22] and at least provide a little competition to the investor-owned utilities?

[42:26] So, that started in 2002, the first CCA then, our community choice aggregator launched

[42:32] in 2010, up in Marin County, and then in the mid 2010s, many CCAs started to launch.

[42:40] It became a real revolution.

[42:41] But when you look at the map from Eureka down to San Diego, everyone's represented with a CCA.

[42:48] But you look at the in our region, they're not or in the middle of the state.

[42:54] So I really proud of our board and the staff to work with folks here in our region,

[43:00] because otherwise we've kind of been left out of this, and so we're really proud to be here tonight.

[43:06] Next slide, please.

[43:07] How does the CCA work?

[43:11] So what you're going to do is you're not going to be forming your own utility.

[43:14] So you're not taking over the transmission and distribution system.

[43:18] Just to kind of give you some numbers out there, City of Rockland, which is one of our members,

[43:23] looked at securing their own transmission and distribution system from PG&E.

[43:28] Now, first of all, PG&E is not probably going to sell it, but they did their study to

[43:32] at it, it would be about a half a billion to purchase a system plus all the infrastructure

[43:39] in place to maintain it. Here, it gets you into the game for about 40 percent of the bill

[43:46] on the generation side of the bill for a maximum risk of $15,000. So that's where we're not

[43:55] going to be replacing PG&E as far as your customer service goes if you have an outage,

[44:02] But we are going to be then the electrons on the system and provide the benefits associated with that.

[44:09] So next slide please.

[44:10] I want to cover all these bubbles, but the top ones would be about savings.

[44:17] So since we've launched in 2018, we have saved at the end of this year.

[44:23] We've saved our ratepayers about $124 million.

[44:28] The 92% of our budget is devoted to power supplies.

[44:32] We have very little overhead.

[44:33] We keep it very lean, very nimble.

[44:36] And our board has made a priority that rate pair savings is a number one issue.

[44:42] It's also about local control.

[44:44] So an example of this would be, you know, you're sitting on our board.

[44:47] You're making decisions about the rates, about the projects, about the programs.

[44:51] and our board has been very specific about the importance of biomass and looking at local energy procurement that created.

[45:00] We'll talk a little bit more about that in a few slides. As well as taking control of your energy future.

[45:08] This is right from our next slide, please. This is right from our strategic plan, our mission and vision statement, and we'll read that out, but it's the focus is on local, it's about the community partner, and just want to also emphasize for you and the public that we are not for profit, and you sit on our board, our ratepayers, our shareholders.

[45:31] This is just a snapshot of our service territory.

[45:37] As I mentioned, we are looking at Sutter County as well as some other members this year for joining us.

[45:43] We have about 170,000 meters, but we serve a population close to a million.

[45:48] And also want to emphasize we do not compete with other public powers.

[45:52] So, for instance, Roseville Electric is public power.

[45:55] truckie has their own utility, that's public power.

[45:57] That wouldn't be a place where we would go

[45:59] to compete.

[46:01] The legislation was specific to compete with the

[46:03] investor own utility territory,

[46:05] the NPG need in our course.

[46:07] And then next slide.

[46:09] It's governance.

[46:09] I mentioned about sitting on our board.

[46:11] So we have currently 11 members on our board.

[46:15] Each one is an elected official from

[46:18] memory agency.

[46:19] It's so one of you would be eventually on our board

[46:22] and you would decide who that is.

[46:24] there's no term limits, and then also it's one member, one vote.

[46:29] So it's not based on percentage of load.

[46:32] So there's not going to be a situation where you

[46:34] can have two members team up and kind of force in agenda.

[46:38] It's one member, one vote.

[46:39] So everyone is equally represented.

[46:41] And that's been well received by some of the smaller cities

[46:44] that we have.

[46:45] And I think with that, I'm going to hand this off,

[46:48] actually one more slide would be, this is on the biomass.

[46:52] So just to give you an example of what we're doing here,

[46:56] Grass Valley has a recent member that joined us.

[46:59] They have some land.

[47:00] They've got the wood waste trying to figure out

[47:04] how to get a biomass plant there, it made sense.

[47:07] So our role becomes, we become the technical advisor in this case.

[47:11] We issued an RFP and got responses.

[47:15] We then negotiate with that power supplier.

[47:17] We'll eventually sign a power purchase agreement.

[47:21] And then that power supplier, because they have a power purchase agreement, can then go ahead

[47:25] and get financing, and we're looking forward to closing that deal in the next two, three

[47:31] months.

[47:31] So that's an example where the biomass being in our territory, it's important to us.

[47:37] The board is, we talked about wildfire risk, and it's certainly hit our region, and that's

[47:43] been a priority.

[47:44] But we also look at other areas so for instance, we first thing we did with Elirado County when we went there is sign

[47:53] 37 million dollar contract with

[47:55] Elirado Education District

[47:58] We do several million dollars at business with Placer County water agency

[48:01] So we would do the same thing here where there's a local option that makes economic sense

[48:06] That's what we would want to do

[48:09] And now I think I say good place for me to hand this off to Lisa Delobi. Thanks

[48:20] Thank you, Dawn. I'm just going to briefly touch on programs.

[48:28] So enrollment in any program,

[48:29] a customer has with PG&E, whether it's CARE, FARA, or medical baseline, that's going to carry

[48:35] over to Pioneer. So that's a top question that we get asked. In addition to the PG&E programs,

[48:41] however, Pioneer offers additional local programs that are focused on saving customers money.

[48:47] Our customers have a voice in local programs and it's based on input from our customer or

[48:53] from our community advisory committee.

[48:55] The committee meets every other month and they prioritize programs that they'd like to

[48:59] see offered and as Don mentioned, we are allocating $2 million a year on programs.

[49:05] Some additional pioneer specific programs that we offer include an online solar marketplace where

[49:10] or customers can get guided through that crazy maze of solar, and they can decide and choose which

[49:18] solar suits them best. And they get three bids from different solar customers, so it's

[49:27] a great program. We also offer GridGen a zero dollar lease program for a residence to pair

[49:33] the solar and battery storage, and it provides stability to rates and resiliency to grid

[49:38] Greenlight is a subsidized low-cost LED lighting and it's available through local retailers in our service area.

[49:46] We also just launched an HVAC TuneUp rebate and basically allows our customers to get their HVAC TuneUp,

[49:52] and then they came receive a $75 TuneUp rebate.

[49:56] And that's a check that they'll receive in the mail just by giving us the receipt that they had this work done.

[50:02] We also are going to be offering some demand side program management programs coming soon,

[50:07] so that rewards customers who lower their energy usage.

[50:16] And I'm Pioneer's Community Outreach Manager,

[50:19] and I just want to let you know we are committed to being

[50:22] a community partner in the territories that we serve.

[50:26] We're actively involved with RCRC,

[50:28] the rural county representatives of California

[50:31] to help identify potential biomass projects

[50:33] that lead to economic development.

[50:36] We also participate in member agencies Chamber of Commerce,

[50:39] committees and we sponsor a lot of local events and in addition to recently co-sponsoring

[50:46] a League of Cities, divisional event, we also sponsor events such as the Lincoln Potter's

[50:51] baseball team, Sierra Nevada, Gala and we also sponsor state of the city events as well.

[50:58] We also partner with the California biomass energy alliance and the bio-energy association

[51:03] of California along with working with economic development groups to help with business relocation

[51:08] with our green 100 product, which is 100% renewable.

[51:13] As Dawn mentioned, we believe in community investment, and this slide just illustrates

[51:20] a few of the ways that Pioneer really does reinvest in our communities that we serve.

[51:24] We use local vendors, we offer local programs, we sponsor local events, and we really

[51:30] work to offer and create local power purchase agreements so that those funds stay local

[51:36] create jobs. So as Dawn mentioned, we've saved customers $126 million since 2018 through

[51:45] the end of this year. We've also worked with El Dorado Irrigation District on a 10-year

[51:52] power purchase agreement, totaling $37 million. He also mentioned we've allocated and budgeted

[51:58] $15 million to support local biomass and small hydro projects in our territories and we would

[52:04] to do that and really get the word out here. We've also worked with the

[52:10] Plaster County Water Agency, as Dawn mentioned, on energy and resource

[52:13] adequacy purchases totaling over $10 million. And we've budgeted that $2

[52:18] million for local programs and we've also worked to procure $1.2 million in

[52:24] renewable energy credits from Sierra Pacific Industries.

[52:31] Pioneer offers two rate products. We offer our standard product, and we also offer green 100, which is 100% renewable energy. It's still less expensive than PG&E, and even our standard rate plan has a higher concentration of renewable energy than PG&E.

[52:49] Recently, the cities of Auburn, Grass Valley and Nevada City have opted up to our green 100 to help them meet their climate action goals. So it's been very effective.

[52:58] And I wanted to keep it brief for you, but now I'm going to turn it over to Gina Stasi

[53:05] Vanicourt, who is our Director of Public Affairs, Marketing, and Programs.

[53:10] Thank you.

[53:20] Good evening.

[53:22] As Dawn mentioned, we are not here to ask you to join Pioneer tonight.

[53:27] What we are looking for is direction from the Council on conducting the Impact Assessment

[53:34] study. In between now and when service would launch there are several steps and this timeline

[53:41] helps familiarize you with what would be involved. If you turn your attention to line 3 that's

[53:48] where we are tonight but I would like to acknowledge and thank the City Manager and her staff

[53:55] for the work that has come before tonight to do a fair amount of research, compile information

[54:01] as I'm get us to this point.

[54:05] An impact assessment study, as you've been told,

[54:09] really helps determine the financial feasibility

[54:12] of having the city join our JPA for both the city

[54:17] and for pioneer.

[54:19] If that is conducted, we anticipate that the findings

[54:23] would be back in fall,

[54:25] and we would come back to share the findings

[54:28] and really help explain to you what that means, both in terms of timing and cost.

[54:36] After that, if you would city votes to join Pioneer, we go back to our member agencies.

[54:43] They also have to join or they also have to vote to approve the expansion.

[54:49] Assuming all of that happens and our JPA is amended, we would submit a plan to the California Public Utilities Commission.

[54:57] They have until about the end of March to either approve or deny that plan, and then at that point we would come back to the city of UBCIT again.

[55:10] At that point there's still one more opportunity for you to change your mind in case you decide not to join Pioneer.

[55:17] But of course we hope you would.

[55:19] And then assuming all is going forward we would begin procuring power for the city of UBCIT.

[55:25] The Impact Assessment Study will tell us a little bit more about the optimal timing for service launch.

[55:32] At this point, we anticipate that it would be either late 2026 or more likely early 2027.

[55:42] So, next slide, please.

[55:45] In between the time that you vote to join Pioneer and service launch, we would work with the city to develop partnerships and really work to educate your constituents, both residential and business about what to expect.

[56:02] we know this is complicated. We have a good sense of what the biggest questions are. We would work

[56:11] in all different mediums. We would probably run advertising. We do mailers. We do town halls.

[56:18] Speak to rotarys. Go to civic and fraternal organizations because part of what we want to do is

[56:25] be a part of the communities that we serve. And we don't just say it, we actually do it.

[56:29] So, again, what we are looking for tonight from the council is direction on commissioning the impact assessment study.

[56:37] I'm as Lisa mentioned, the Cedar County and the City of Live Oak will also be doing.

[56:43] And as part of the assessment study, it is $30,000 total of which Pioneer pays 50%.

[56:50] And there's no impact to your general fund by joining Pioneer.

[56:57] With that, could I put that up to questions?

[57:03] Sir?

[57:05] You say there's 126 million over a six-year secure period of time.

[57:09] Is that correct?

[57:10] How many households did you say you serve?

[57:13] We serve.

[57:15] There are 170 meters, and that serves the population of about 1 million.

[57:21] See, okay.

[57:23] Is that some meters have?

[57:25] You're saving people, I'm trying to do the number here per household is what I'm trying

[57:32] to work to.

[57:33] Do you have that?

[57:36] That's about $200.

[57:38] A year.

[57:39] Thank you.

[57:40] Yeah.

[57:40] It's my question.

[57:44] Thank you for that presentation.

[57:47] So walk me through this.

[57:48] It's some further council meeting if we decided to go with you folks.

[57:53] It's as simple as this flickin' switch or are you physically going on

[57:59] to properties of the public in New York City?

[58:04] We are not.

[58:04] Okay, we're going on.

[58:05] Thank you.

[58:10] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[58:12] Why would peace, thank you for the presentation, by the way.

[58:15] Now, so watch your one to the county, so I have a couple of questions from that one.

[58:19] Why would PG&E, PG&E say we shouldn't do this?

[58:26] By law they can't.

[58:28] Oh, this was really created through legislation.

[58:31] I'll tell you some of the history of when this first launched in Marin.

[58:35] It was a, it got pretty nasty for between PG&E and Marin and very aggressive out of that.

[58:42] From that, CPUC put together some rules of sort of a code of conduct.

[58:47] I look at this way that you're offering your folks a choice, so you're not necessarily saying

[58:53] you have to go with PG and you're offering them a choice.

[58:57] We feel very confident in what we do and looking at our budgets that we're always going

[59:06] to be cost competitive and we keep the rates stable, we change them at most once per year.

[59:14] And, but to answer your question directly,

[59:17] PG&E by law couldn't really come up here and say you can't do this.

[59:21] So the next question then is,

[59:24] the PUC would be regulating the transmission

[59:29] and the distribution costs, is that correct?

[59:32] Well, it's still PG&E system.

[59:33] So they would be regulating those rates, that's correct.

[59:36] So, and this was a question,

[59:39] I had a presentation with a community interest at Citizen and Supervisors, Baines, and Flores.

[59:47] And the question was, okay, does PG need try to come back at us through the transmission

[59:52] and the distribution costs to make up the cost of the electricity now that's being supplied?

[1:00:00] That's a great question. You would think if I've lost this sort of revenue, I'm just going to double down on that. That's a great question.

[1:00:07] So they can't. So first of all, except for their generation equipment, they're not making a rate of return on the generation portion of the bill.

[1:00:17] When they're out there purchasing fuel and purchase power, that is, they're not allowed to make a profit on that.

[1:00:25] So then to go ahead and say whatever revenues, I'm not getting from generation, throw them into transmission and distribution.

[1:00:33] Biolates every sort of cost service law that there is.

[1:00:37] It would be my opinion and possible for them to prove that through the CPC to recover those costs.

[1:00:44] So it's a very good question.

[1:00:47] It's just that it would not be able to fly.

[1:00:49] And there's no way they could justify generation cost that they're losing and putting them

[1:00:54] into transmission distribution.

[1:00:57] And could you spend a little time on talking to, I mean there's a lot of solar panels

[1:01:01] on top of roofs in New York City.

[1:01:04] Can you expand just a little bit about how that impacts those of us who have a solar system

[1:01:11] and own those systems and how is that reimbursement all?

[1:01:15] Oh, short answer is you're better off.

[1:01:17] Right now, we currently have 40,000 solar customers in a territory, so we have a high percentage

[1:01:23] of solar in our system, actually more than much more than most of the CCA's, even on

[1:01:30] the coast.

[1:01:31] And in your case, if you're a net generator, you would receive a half-cent premium at the

[1:01:37] end of the year with pioneer for your net generation, and if you're a net consumer, then

[1:01:43] you're enjoying the same discount rate that everyone else is.

[1:01:46] So it's a win either way, and that would be probably the group that would be the most aggressive

[1:01:53] about this program because they really do watch their bill very closely in the fact that

[1:01:58] we've kept 40,000 of them tells me that we're doing it right.

[1:02:02] Speaking of the bill, you showed it at the Southern County meeting for the benefit of

[1:02:06] our viewing audience and those here, it was possible to show that just to see what the bill

[1:02:11] would look like.

[1:02:13] Great, and thank you for pulling that up.

[1:02:14] So this would be just a snapshot.

[1:02:16] The bill is very long and complicated, as you know.

[1:02:19] But how it would look is you're going to have,

[1:02:21] so we're not sending out any separate bill

[1:02:24] with Pioneer Community Energy.

[1:02:25] You're going to have one bill, and again, PG&E is required

[1:02:28] to do it this way.

[1:02:31] And you're going to see the Pioneer Community Energy

[1:02:34] Generation Chargers.

[1:02:35] So then you pay the bill, and then the portion

[1:02:37] that belongs to Pioneer is transferred PG&E into our account.

[1:02:42] final question. You've been great on all these so far. You said that we would have to be

[1:02:48] approved by your other member entities, why would they say no? They never have. So what

[1:02:57] we do, we do our homework at a time to say, are we looking at like-minded communities? And

[1:03:04] that's the reason for instance that the Sutter County we had our board chair there, she would

[1:03:08] been here tonight, if I were to go out there and recruit, for instance, looking at, I'm

[1:03:15] not picking on Berkeley, this is just an example, but Berkeley wouldn't be a great fit

[1:03:19] because they're looking at, they're not maybe so much concerned about cost as much as green

[1:03:24] green and we're not. So we do offer a green 100 product, but our default product is going

[1:03:30] to follow the statement of them for the most part to keep our cost low. This is what really

[1:03:34] adds up to the savings. So when we're out there looking at new communities, we want

[1:03:38] that that out too to make sure that I'm not just introducing conflict to the board.

[1:03:42] So we're doing that homework at a time.

[1:03:44] And by the time it's going to a vote to amend the JPA, we've done that.

[1:03:49] I said that was a final question, but I did have one more, sorry.

[1:03:54] As it relates to the competition, I mean, I know that we've had discussions with CCAs in neighboring jurisdictions who have declined to include us.

[1:04:06] Would we expect that there would be another one of a view all coming to us or are you are you are you what we are you what we have?

[1:04:17] We would be what what you have as far as when you join us now if you wanted to back out of the JPA at another time to join a CCA

[1:04:26] It can happen. It's never I don't know of anyone. It's that's done that but

[1:04:31] if you decide to move forward with us then

[1:04:34] you would become part of our defined service territory.

[1:04:39] Okay.

[1:04:40] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:04:40] The air's back on, so if you got some more questions, go forward.

[1:04:44] You kept you jacket on, that was impressive.

[1:04:47] I'm not as strong as the city attorney, you kept us tie on.

[1:04:51] Through the mayor.

[1:04:53] Thanks for being here tonight.

[1:04:54] Just a couple more questions around solar and whatnot.

[1:04:58] There's some of us that had solar for a very long time.

[1:05:00] we're nm1nm2 another nm3 and we know the differences under PG&E's current stronghold they

[1:05:08] have of being in the different levels. If someone was has solar and changes over to pioneer,

[1:05:16] is that going to affect any of that because like nm1nm2 or grandfathered in? So that would not

[1:05:22] change anything there. Absolutely not. So as you mentioned, every version of nm is gets worse,

[1:05:27] But it wouldn't be like you joined Pioneer and now you're automatically put into NM3.

[1:05:33] Whatever you are right now, that's where you are.

[1:05:35] No impact.

[1:05:38] Pretty much already know the answer to this, but I just want to be clear for our citizens of the city.

[1:05:47] If we were to partner with Pioneer, we're still going to be subject to the,

[1:05:57] brownouts and everything else because you don't have any control over that.

[1:06:01] So if PG&E does a brownout throughout the city, it doesn't matter what career you are,

[1:06:07] they're the transmission lines, they're shutting them down.

[1:06:10] That is correct.

[1:06:11] So we've done through our Trade Association of Cal CCA, which is all the CCA's, have

[1:06:17] done efforts on the legislative side and the regulatory side to put pressure on, have some

[1:06:22] oversight into the PSPS program, for instance, as is an example of that, where we want to,

[1:06:29] at least have some oversight on it, but if they decide to shut off the power, there's really

[1:06:35] nothing we can do about that.

[1:06:36] We do, at least a product like, for instance, on the program slide, where we're looking at a

[1:06:41] product that, for a zero-down lease, you can have a solar-plus storage or a battery in place,

[1:06:46] that could keep the power on for folks in those instances, that we're very excited about

[1:06:50] not here and about by mid July, but in aggregate now we're not to controlling the line.

[1:06:57] Thank you.

[1:07:01] We'll need public comment on this item.

[1:07:06] All right, we can come back for a motion.

[1:07:16] Oh, through the mayor.

[1:07:18] Sir, I move the authorize city manager to jointly commission an impact assessment study to determine the financial

[1:07:25] visibility and timing of the city joining Pioneer Community Energy's joint exercise

[1:07:29] of powers.

[1:07:30] We make a junction with Cedric County.

[1:07:32] Second.

[1:07:33] First and second to approve the motion.

[1:07:37] All those in favor say aye.

[1:07:38] Aye.

[1:07:39] And it posed is not a pass of unanimously.

[1:07:42] Thank you very much.

[1:07:43] We look forward to working with it.

[1:07:44] Move on to the next step.

[1:07:46] Move on to number 16.

[1:07:48] Adoption of the city of UBCD's fiscal year,

[1:07:51] 2425 operating capital budgets and fiscal year,

[1:07:54] 2425 appropriations limits.

[1:07:59] Dianna,

[1:08:03] can the money people?

[1:08:16] Good evening Mr. Mayor, members of the Council tonight.

[1:08:18] We are presenting you with a high-level overview of the fiscal year 2425 operating budget.

[1:08:25] For the general fund and a summary of the enterprise funds, joining me is Dianna Pope Accounting

[1:08:31] Manager.

[1:08:32] I also like to recognize Emergeet Corps and list to both the responsible for coordinating

[1:08:38] stewarding and building this budget for. More on the capital budget, I would refer everybody

[1:08:45] back to the June 4th meeting where it was covered in depth.

[1:08:53] Here's a slide that just

[1:08:54] basically shows the UPCD budget allocations in the general fund and you can see that 62% is

[1:09:01] public safety which supports council priorities, add in another priority infrastructure and public

[1:09:07] works and that brings us to about 74% of the general fund budget.

[1:09:14] We are expecting nearly a 2.7 million dollar surplus.

[1:09:17] Once we close the books in 2344, however, this is not an operating surplus per save, but

[1:09:23] rather unused reserves transferred into the general fund in July of 2023.

[1:09:30] So those reserves will go on to help close budget deficits in the future.

[1:09:37] We are experiencing just like every most every household probably rising cost of goods, every household city, local government across the country.

[1:09:48] A rising cost to include the big one is really insurance. This is an index from 2014-15 where I'm tracking the percentage of increase across that 10-year period.

[1:10:05] You can see lots of increases there do include inflation just as an index, so many of the increases are outpacing the percentage of inflation for that same period.

[1:10:23] The budget process is lengthy to say the least on my team starts around January.

[1:10:30] And we, after this adoption,

[1:10:34] after this budget is adopted, then we still have the publishing

[1:10:37] of the budget remaining, so it's quite a lengthy process.

[1:10:42] But the council, through the ad hoc budget committee and department heads, are very involved

[1:10:48] involved as is the city manager and my staff,

[1:10:53] speaking of a budget ad hoc committee.

[1:10:56] This year it was staffed to buy Mayor Harris and Council Member Pascuali and this is this

[1:11:07] I believe the sixth year of using a budget ad hoc and the committee met with each department to hear budget needs

[1:11:13] and to deliberate it over a few days to come up with a recommended budget.

[1:11:24] As we get into the budget detail, we will be drawing on reserves on this recommended budget.

[1:11:33] The reserves are intended to come from the budget stabilization reserve, about 5.5 million.

[1:11:42] This city does have adequate reserves at the moment, about 30 million before we use any to close any deficits.

[1:11:51] So, you can see that we keep just under eight million in a healthy cities reserve, which is by policy 15% in this budget, as we, we are recommend not not bringing that to 15% necessarily without, you know, we, we, we, I'm sorry, we will bring it to 15% but we'll move money from another,

[1:12:17] recommending we do many's from another reserve and the general fund CIP

[1:12:25] and that gets us to

[1:12:27] some general fund at this point. I'm going to have Diana Pope. Continue.

[1:12:42] Good evening.

[1:12:46] This shows graphically the changes in total general front revenues over time.

[1:12:52] There are 10 years of actual historical results. The fiscal year 2324 projected and the fiscal year

[1:12:58] 24-25 proposed budgets.

[1:13:01] These figures do include transfers and from other funds.

[1:13:07] Here, I'm drying your attention to the largest revenue changes proposed for fiscal year 24-25.

[1:13:16] This is a similar slide for general fund expenditures, including actual results for 10 years

[1:13:21] along with the fiscal year 23 budget, fiscal year 24 projected, and fiscal year 25 proposed.

[1:13:27] This is broken down for each year into the categories of salaries and benefits and MSNS,

[1:13:33] material services and supplies.

[1:13:37] The next two slides will provide a list of the largest general fund expenditure changes

[1:13:41] from the 23-24 budget to the 24-25 budget, and this is the second slide.

[1:13:52] pension.

[1:13:55] This represents a cost for perse retirement as a percent of every dollar of payroll.

[1:14:01] Safety is in red and miscellaneous is in blue. This is a blended composite rate of all the tiers including the UAL payment and is based on CalPERS payroll cost estimates.

[1:14:12] This is only the employer portion and it doesn't include the portion paid by our employees.

[1:14:16] These projected rates are based on the actual reports as of 630-2022 put out by CalPERS in July of 2023.

[1:14:26] Binance will update this information when new actual reports are received.

[1:14:39] Rising costs are outpacing revenues producing a declining debt coverage ratio.

[1:14:46] Another way to look at it is available water fund cash reserves is declining as operating expenses outpaces revenue.

[1:14:53] declining that revenues has put more pressure on the debt coverage.

[1:15:01] The fiscal year 2425 wastewater fund revenue budget is showing slightly decreasing revenues, increasing expenditures, and the declining debt service ratio.

[1:15:16] This is a similar slide, as what you saw for water, but shows a very large spike on CIP for the wastewater plant improvement and increase in cash due to bond proceeds.

[1:15:29] The department's present today identified needs to your budget at Hock Committee for Capital Acquisition Request.

[1:15:36] This is a summary of items requested as part of the capital acquisitions requested by general fund departments.

[1:15:44] This is a summary of vehicles requested as part of the capital acquisitions requested by departments.

[1:15:53] This is a summary of equipment requested as part of the capital acquisition required for the continued health of the city's technology infrastructure.

[1:16:01] These items are purchased from the technology replacement fund which relies on transfers from all divisions.

[1:16:10] personnel count changes. This slide identifies the three personnel requests from departments.

[1:16:17] Additionally, the Code Enforcement Officer and Development Liaison will go from limited turn positions to full-time.

[1:16:30] Community contributions. This slide is dedicated to the Community Contributions for the fiscal year 2425.

[1:16:41] Operating Budget wrap-up, the recommendations are to make ADP for general fund portion from the 1-15 plan.

[1:16:50] Only do so at the utility funds debt coverage ratio, stays at or above 1.2.

[1:16:57] Use UAL repayment savings to make an ADP.

[1:17:01] Commit remaining budget stabilization reserves to close the deficit rather than using other discretionary funds or making permanent cuts.

[1:17:09] Fund the Healthy Cities Reserve at 15% by transferring from an allocated general fund CIP.

[1:17:16] Other options include don't make the ADP, the first two bullet points, and utilize the funds

[1:17:22] or other purposes, use discretionary funds to pay some general fund costs instead of budget

[1:17:28] stabilization reserves.

[1:17:30] Staff can look to bond debt where possible to free up cash long term to pay down unfunded

[1:17:35] liabilities.

[1:17:36] Do not, fund healthy cities reserve at 15% and leave general fund CIP for future projects.

[1:17:45] The resolutions we're proposing is a doctor resolution approving the proposed fiscal year

[1:17:50] 2425 operating budget, a doctor resolution approving the fiscal year 2425 capital improvement

[1:17:57] program, and a doctor resolution approving the city's appropriations limit for fiscal year

[1:18:03] 2425.

[1:18:05] Any questions or comments?

[1:18:15] Not yet.

[1:18:19] All right. Yeah, if you're there. I'm

[1:18:26] seeing it. I mean, this is bear bones.

[1:18:29] This is bear bones budget. It's clear that it's a bear bone budget. I know in the

[1:18:34] ad hoc committee, I made the comment, gentlemen, that this this budget is pretty close

[1:18:40] to what you, but community college history has. We serve 70,000 people.

[1:18:50] You

[1:18:51] go to task with anyone that we are not bare bones.

[1:18:54] This is bare bones, so with that comment,

[1:18:58] I can make wishes to someone else.

[1:19:00] I agree.

[1:19:06] So I've labored hard on this one.

[1:19:08] And first let me say that I, in no way,

[1:19:12] I'm in conflict with the work of the ATHOT committee.

[1:19:16] I'm certainly not in no way, in conflict with the work

[1:19:20] of Spencer or Deona or Emergey or the rest

[1:19:23] of the staff department heads. However, I cannot support this budget.

[1:19:29] And the reason is, as we embrace our embark on this journey of asking our residents to

[1:19:38] consider taxing themselves, we can call it a revenue measure, we can call it a tax. It's imperative

[1:19:45] to me and something that I feel very, very important to me that we spend wisely. And I'm

[1:19:56] not suggesting that we don't spend wisely because I know I've been an active participant

[1:20:01] in the budget ad hoc committee. And again, I respect consensus and I respect the fact that

[1:20:08] I may be in the minority here. But there are some things in contained within this budget

[1:20:13] that I would not spend money on personally, nor would I have spent that money on any business

[1:20:20] that I had the opportunity or privilege of running.

[1:20:24] I need to be true to myself, and I know others on this council at different times have

[1:20:30] made that claim as well as that, hey look, I get it, I'm not suggesting that this budget

[1:20:36] is frivolous by any matters, but it does contain some things that I feel are highly, highly

[1:20:43] related those and communicated those at the last meeting.

[1:20:49] I was apparently either confused the writer for the territorial dispatch or perhaps I

[1:20:58] mispoke, but there was a comment printed that I was in somehow not in support of the Sacramento

[1:21:04] area of Council of Governments, saycock.

[1:21:07] That is the furthest from the truth.

[1:21:09] I see the return on the our investment from say cog and I believe in that organization and I will be following up with the territorial dispatch to make sure that they understand that.

[1:21:22] It's just important for me that as we as we stand in front of our constituents it's at I stand in front of our constituents they absolutely understand that.

[1:21:32] I have been entrusted with them by them to spend their money wisely, and when I see things

[1:21:40] that I just fundamentally do not agree with, then I have to take this particular action.

[1:21:46] I will be voting no on the budget, but I really really want to make sure that my colleagues

[1:21:52] here understand that I understand and respect consensus and to Spencer, Deanna, I'm

[1:21:59] and the staff, this is no personal reflection on any of the work that you have done this year or in previous years.

[1:22:06] Thank you.

[1:22:08] All right, thank you.

[1:22:09] Any comment from the public?

[1:22:14] Good night.

[1:22:15] You have this.

[1:22:28] Thank you.

[1:22:30] One of the graphs you showed showed inflation as a red line, and then a whole bunch of other items.

[1:22:38] As I'm looking at it, I wondered if any or many of those other items are what constitutes inflation.

[1:22:49] Looks like you're showing inflation, and then a whole bunch of other such as labor or other costs.

[1:22:57] Is there an opportunity to see that slide? Maybe you can explain.

[1:23:04] I don't mind if you, I'm not sure what slide it is, but if it's a quick and easy question,

[1:23:10] we've tried before about this is common period, but if you have, if it's a quick and easy question,

[1:23:16] the definition of a red line, I don't have a problem with that.

[1:23:27] The red line, you have inflation.

[1:23:30] And then you have gas and electric going up in price, fuel is going up, labor.

[1:23:37] It seems to me, many of those items that you're showing constitutes inflation, that's

[1:23:44] what inflation is,

[1:23:48] what, what, what, what, I would say the general rate of inflation,

[1:23:54] nationwide would be a general number, the red line, the numbers, the lines that are above

[1:23:59] that have exceeded more than inflation in general.

[1:24:06] So if we have a, you know,

[1:24:07] the inflation goes up,

[1:24:08] X percent these one up higher percent.

[1:24:11] So that graph is intended to demonstrate

[1:24:13] that basically cost or rising.

[1:24:17] Okay.

[1:24:18] Thank you.

[1:24:19] You're welcome.

[1:24:21] Is that correct?

[1:24:22] Mr. Mayor, if I may, I would add that the timing

[1:24:27] of the, a lot of these increases coincided more

[1:24:30] with insurance, for instance, a national disaster,

[1:24:35] which we've experienced in Northern California,

[1:24:37] which contributed, we've also have supply chain issues

[1:24:43] that were a result of the global plant pandemic.

[1:24:48] And then, I would argue that subsequently,

[1:24:53] the dumping of $6 trillion into the economy later,

[1:24:58] later was a big impact on inflation.

[1:25:04] So you can't, I don't think you could separate all of these, but there were definitely

[1:25:07] much more economic issues that were involved.

[1:25:11] A lot of reasons behind those figures right there.

[1:25:15] Very good.

[1:25:16] Any other comment from public?

[1:25:18] All right.

[1:25:18] We bring about the council for action.

[1:25:20] Through the mayor.

[1:25:21] Yes, sir.

[1:25:22] Before we go to action, I'd like to make a couple of comments here.

[1:25:25] All right.

[1:25:26] First of all, my colleague, I really respect your mark, really to hear my colleague, and it takes a lot of

[1:25:34] tenacity and guts to just hand your ground.

[1:25:36] I've been there.

[1:25:39] But when I look at the budget, what we're doing this year, I look at it not only as a single year,

[1:25:45] where we're at as my colleague on the other side and said, it's a tight budget.

[1:25:49] But this is the sixth year we've done this, and Mark, you've been a integral part of that over the years.

[1:25:56] We have managed this city along with our city team and our finance and our city manager to where we're not in the situation that I'm seeing other cities.

[1:26:05] I mean, if you just look, such a county is upside down. Sacramento counties upside down.

[1:26:11] Sacramento City of Sacramento is upside down, and they're hundreds, not such a county, but Sacramento hundreds of millions of dollars upside down.

[1:26:19] And I just want to commend the council and the city staff before we go forward with five years of a good job done because we really dug in and we can't overlook that.

[1:26:31] We made it through some of the tough times. Is it pretty an optimal?

[1:26:36] Yeah, he's Joe, he's lap and it's not. I mean, we identified last year if we really wanted to do everything that we need to do for our residents.

[1:26:44] I don't remember off top, ma'am, but somewhere from 4 and 500 million dollars that we would need to do all the things that the department has brought forward.

[1:26:53] We don't have it.

[1:26:55] So, you know, I fully respect you and I understand exactly where you're coming from.

[1:27:00] But I think we've got to take a look at the five years leading into this and pardon the French.

[1:27:04] Well, we've done a hell of a job and you've been a part of that.

[1:27:07] So I want to say thank you for that.

[1:27:09] and I appreciate your forthcoming tonight.

[1:27:13] So I just wanted to say that.

[1:27:14] But on that, we've got a job to do.

[1:27:16] And it is not optimal.

[1:27:20] And Spencer, thank you to you and your team.

[1:27:23] Because we've asked you to be wizards and do things

[1:27:27] and you guys have put it together.

[1:27:30] So I just want to say thank you to you and your team.

[1:27:33] So with that, I would go ahead and move

[1:27:35] we adopt a resolution approving the proposed physical year 2425 operating budget, adopt a resolution

[1:27:44] approving the physical year 2425 CIP project summaries by funding source or attached to the

[1:27:52] resolution for your reference and see adopt a resolution approving the city's appropriations limit

[1:27:58] for the physically year 24-25.

[1:28:02] Second, through the mirror.

[1:28:04] Yes, sir.

[1:28:05] I would like to vote singularly on item A.

[1:28:10] And then B and C.

[1:28:12] Friendly amendment.

[1:28:13] Sure.

[1:28:14] That's fine.

[1:28:14] Okay.

[1:28:15] Roll call.

[1:28:16] Yep.

[1:28:16] So we can do a roll call.

[1:28:19] For A and then B and C.

[1:28:27] Yes.

[1:28:27] So item A.

[1:28:32] We have a first from Vice Mayor Shaw.

[1:28:35] Correct, second from Councilmember Presqually, and then we have Councilmember Kirchner. Yes,

[1:28:49] and

[1:28:50] Councilmember room garden. No. And Mayor Harris. Yes.

[1:29:00] Okay, so item B. I'm sorry. Did we get Councilmember Charlotte? I missed that one.

[1:29:08] She just took it because I made the motion on me. Yes, and

[1:29:11] Pasqualee as he is because he's seconded. So got it. Okay, just so we're clear for the record

[1:29:15] We're assuming you're voting for your own motion. Okay. Thank you. Now we can run through the roll call for B and C.

[1:29:21] I didn't be Councilmember Boom Garden. Yes.

[1:29:26] Councilmember Kirchner. Yes.

[1:29:29] Councilmember Hisqualee. Yes.

[1:29:32] Vice Mayor Shaw. Yes.

[1:29:34] Mayor Harris. Yes.

[1:29:38] I didn't see.

[1:29:39] Council member Boom Garden. Yes.

[1:29:43] Council member Kirchner. Yes.

[1:29:46] Council member Pasquale. Yes.

[1:29:48] Vice Mayor Shaw. Yes.

[1:29:50] And Mayor Harris. Yes.

[1:29:53] All right. So we got that.

[1:29:59] Mayor before we go.

[1:30:00] One, can I just note that this is Spencer Morrison's last adopted budget before he retired at the end of the year, and I just want to say thank you for all of his work on this budget.

[1:30:11] And I want to say happy birthday, Spencer.

[1:30:13] Thank you.

[1:30:14] Thank you, Spencer.

[1:30:20] All right, number 20, downtown noise ordinance.

[1:30:23] We're stuck.

[1:30:26] That says dog anyway.

[1:30:28] Through the mayor.

[1:30:29] I'll give a page.

[1:30:31] Forgive me. I'm sorry.

[1:30:32] No worries.

[1:30:33] Sometimes a page.

[1:30:33] pages.

[1:30:37] That's why Doug wasn't getting up looking at me like I have three eyes.

[1:30:42] Number 17, you soul source and Spencer, that's why he's still there. One of these days

[1:30:46] all wake up.

[1:30:55] Even there. Good evening again.

[1:30:59] And members of the council tonight I bring before you this my very last city wise soul source

[1:31:04] and professional service purchases. Staff report for fiscal year is 2425. I just want

[1:31:12] The first to foremost say this is not an 8.75 million dollar project or proposal.

[1:31:19] That would be the culmination of all of these agreements and anticipated dollars that

[1:31:27] could be potentially spent, but we don't always spend the entire amount of every agreement

[1:31:36] or for every one of these items.

[1:31:38] It is intended the staff reporters intended to streamline the process if we did not include all

[1:31:48] these sole source and professional services agreements that are mostly ongoing.

[1:31:52] In the staff report, then we will be bringing a great volume of staff reports to you over

[1:32:00] the coming fiscal year in these meetings.

[1:32:03] And we just really want intent to put together information that will inform and create awareness.

[1:32:14] And again, these are not appropriations.

[1:32:17] That's a separate process.

[1:32:21] A separate process that will come before Council for approval.

[1:32:26] Again, these are future purchases with a high likelihood that invoices invoices with a vendor will total more than a hundred thousand dollars a year,

[1:32:33] which just happens to be your city manager's purchasing authority and all vendors requiring

[1:32:39] a formal bid this year will be brought before Council.

[1:32:43] These are all the items that we presented in the list in the staff report.

[1:32:50] I have that in common.

[1:32:53] How do they get on the list?

[1:32:55] These are sole source and professional service agreements.

[1:32:57] typically they are the only known provider or the only response of vendor or have specialized

[1:33:07] knowledge or expertise.

[1:33:10] There could be vendors that are in, there could be HVAC vendors that could be less expensive

[1:33:16] that are well outside their response distance to the city but we know who are HVAC vendors

[1:33:26] are, for instance, that's probably a bad example because we do have to go out to bid for

[1:33:32] HVAC for several years. But when we have multi-year contracts, we are including a lot

[1:33:37] of those vendors in this staff report. Just to remind you that this is who we're doing

[1:33:42] business with. Multi-year agreements, another example would be, another example would be

[1:33:49] landscape contracts, so we are including the multi-year agreements and then existing system.

[1:33:55] So while we do plan to turn over our financial system, our ERP is what it's called, we will

[1:34:05] be bringing that a proposal to a future meeting, but that's not something that we can

[1:34:11] just go out to bid for every two or three years, like landscape.

[1:34:16] So those types of vendors are also on this report.

[1:34:20] So, I did include a list, a full list of all the vendors in the in staff report as an

[1:34:30] addendum.

[1:34:31] So if you have any questions for myself, or for any of the department heads that might

[1:34:36] be holding some of those contracts in this room, that was a great time.

[1:34:41] Yes, it is.

[1:34:43] Questions?

[1:34:44] All right.

[1:34:45] Public comment on that.

[1:34:47] Hello, a motion please move to accept number 17 citywide sole source of professional services purchases adopt the resolution pre-authories in city manager

[1:34:58] Regents needs to enter in a citywide sole source of professional services purchases from July 1 24 through June 30 at 2025 for specified items based on purchase

[1:35:09] Recommendation being in the best interest of the city. Second first and second to approve staffs recommendation

[1:35:15] I was in favor of say aye.

[1:35:16] Aye.

[1:35:17] Opposed.

[1:35:18] As you unanimously.

[1:35:19] Number 18.

[1:35:20] Design a community ordinance update.

[1:35:21] Thank you Spencer and happy birthday.

[1:35:24] Present by Ben Moody.

[1:35:27] Public hearing.

[1:35:29] Good evening, Mayor.

[1:35:30] Members of the City Council.

[1:35:33] Good presentation.

[1:35:41] All right.

[1:35:42] So this is pretty straightforward item.

[1:35:44] It's really in regards to considering

[1:35:46] formerly documenting authority of approving plans and designs to clearly preserve design immunity that's established under state law for various sea projects.

[1:36:00] And so the government code 830.6 addresses injuries causes by plans designs it provides immunity for public entities and employees when plans designs approved by legislative bodies.

[1:36:12] So that is why when we have a project,

[1:36:15] one of the reasons we bring it forward to the City Council

[1:36:18] to formally approve the plans, specifications, and estimate,

[1:36:22] because it provides that immunity should something come,

[1:36:25] it puts us in a better position for those lawsuits

[1:36:28] and defend ourselves.

[1:36:30] And so recently the city insurance risk pool,

[1:36:35] the City participates, and they formally requested

[1:36:37] that we adopt this language.

[1:36:41] And part of that reason is to also bring into items or designs that projects that we don't

[1:36:49] formally bring to the city council.

[1:36:51] A lot of those are rehab, maintenance, in manner.

[1:36:54] It's often made in some emergency, direct negotiation through some sort of sole source.

[1:37:00] And so with this proposal is that it would formally establish that in document, so there's

[1:37:08] this loophole to maybe help mitigate and put the city in a better position for potential

[1:37:13] lawsuits in the future for those contracts.

[1:37:16] And so with that, I'm recommending the conduct of public hearing that introduced an ordinance

[1:37:21] of the city council of the city of the city, adding chapter 12, title six, including six

[1:37:25] 12.01 to the municipal code, establishing powers and authority.

[1:37:30] To approve plans or designs for public works projects and wave the first reading.

[1:37:35] I'm happy to answer any questions.

[1:37:38] Questions before we do it?

[1:37:40] All right.

[1:37:41] The public hearing for a design immunity ordinance update is now open.

[1:37:44] If there are any members of the public who would like to address the council on this issue, please provide your statement via public comment.

[1:37:50] And state your name and address for the record.

[1:37:52] Do we have any comments from the public on this item?

[1:37:55] You're in no further comment, close in the

[1:37:57] calendar for the McMatter Council, and we do have

[1:37:59] to read the entire thing if you make the action.

[1:38:04] We'll do acceptate, team design,

[1:38:06] community ordinance updates, A, conducted public

[1:38:08] caring, then B, introduced ordinance to the

[1:38:10] City Council, the City of Yubes City, adding

[1:38:12] 12, the title six, including sections six,

[1:38:16] dash 12.0, one to the missed code establishing

[1:38:18] powers authority to approve plans and

[1:38:20] designs for public works projects and wave the

[1:38:23] first reading.

[1:38:23] Okay.

[1:38:24] First and second to approve the SAS recommendation, I was in favor of say aye.

[1:38:28] Aye.

[1:38:29] And opposed.

[1:38:30] Pass you dance.

[1:38:31] We thank you very much, Ben.

[1:38:32] It looks like you're at print number 19 also 2024 community development grant annual action

[1:38:38] plan.

[1:38:41] Okay.

[1:38:41] So this is our annual consideration of the action plan.

[1:38:46] And so as you've heard from me before, the season, the title meant jurisdiction.

[1:38:51] So

[1:39:01] I've left it open when I printed it

[1:39:07] over right

[1:39:33] it bear with me here for a second

[1:40:04] Yeah, it doesn't like us I can you got it and you'll close it

[1:40:12] All right, Sierra thank you all right exciting stuff

[1:40:20] all right

[1:40:21] So a lot going on here.

[1:40:22] Thank you for the patience with that.

[1:40:25] So tonight, I'm number 19, CBG Annual Action Plan.

[1:40:28] So with the city being, oh, it does click.

[1:40:32] With the city being an entitlement jurisdiction,

[1:40:35] annually we're allocated funding through HUD.

[1:40:40] And with the purpose for decent housing,

[1:40:42] suitable living environment, expand economic opportunities,

[1:40:46] primarily for low and moderate income persons.

[1:40:48] So, through our CDBG objectives or annual action plan that we coordinate with HUD with, we look

[1:40:54] at that for our area for the low moderate income persons and then we request applications.

[1:41:01] And just so for definitions, it changed quite a bit this year, which was interesting.

[1:41:05] And we went from almost 50,000 to 87,000 as a big deal.

[1:41:08] It kind of comes into that inflation and HUD updating their amount.

[1:41:12] So, a low income person via HUD is defined as less than 50% of the area medium income.

[1:41:19] The area medium income has been updated this year for a household of four to be close to $88,000.

[1:41:24] And then, modern income is less than 80% for that.

[1:41:27] So, qualifying an individual is in that range of family having less than 44,000,

[1:41:34] and then the moderate 70,000, just for reference.

[1:41:39] This year, annually, it's 567,000, so it's been training down a little bit.

[1:41:46] We were 6.50, 6.30, we were up, and then this last couple of years we've been around

[1:41:50] this 5.60 mark.

[1:41:52] With that funding, there's some stipulations regarding the maximum percentage for

[1:41:57] administration, maximum percentage for services, and then the remaining for construction projects.

[1:42:07] So, as we worked through that, there were some numbers here for the 20% 113 cap with that.

[1:42:15] We're asking for 110,000 for project administration, which is higher than normal.

[1:42:20] But there was a little bit of a basis to that.

[1:42:22] And then we have a call out for this public service.

[1:42:26] That's usually an area where we receive a lot of applications.

[1:42:30] and so it's always kind of a pinch point, as far as how much funding is available for those types of services.

[1:42:37] And so the process to get here, it's an annual process, but this is with the dates tweaked a little bit.

[1:42:46] As far as notifications, having a workshop, releasing it to the public and to pass applicants and then also reaching out to nonprofits in the area.

[1:42:58] and then receiving applications and then vetting them.

[1:43:01] And then we go through a public 30 day notice period that we're in right now with finalizing the 30 day notice period and then how it conducting the public hearing.

[1:43:10] And then ultimately sending it to HUD for approval.

[1:43:13] And so with that we worked with the mayor and the vice mayor to review the applicants.

[1:43:19] This is just kind of a visual of the process.

[1:43:23] And there's always more applications than funding.

[1:43:26] And so we received about 1.8 million in applications with only about that 567 less admin program.

[1:43:35] And so where we landed is program administration 110,000. And so where that is, that's a little bit heavier than usual, but with that, we're anticipating through that budget is utilizing more staff time to deliver the projects. We've with the recent retirement, relatively recent retirement of our project manager.

[1:43:55] There's been kind of a void for delivering some of the small projects that the fire stations

[1:43:59] at the bathrooms at the senior center.

[1:44:02] Some of these that they're more than maintenance projects, and they have the reporting

[1:44:05] and funding, there's reporting needs, there's also a lot of prevailing wage and bid documents

[1:44:12] and so we're planning to provide more of a staff time to basically deliver that project

[1:44:19] and then build it to the program.

[1:44:20] And then we have the U-Baceter Homeless Consortium, 44,500 for various services to the Homeless

[1:44:30] Population, City of U-Bacete Patriot Park Playground Equipment, ADA Sidewalks at 186,000

[1:44:40] City of U-Bacete Secondary Camping Site, 15,000 for various materials, the Police Department

[1:44:46] is asked for cost of data from Ranza, $60,000 towards replacing rehabbing some of their

[1:44:54] out their ADA ramp and some of their issues with their access, and then, um, with it.

[1:45:00] Free $20,000, we coordinate with them. That's been kind of ongoing coordination where they help disabled individuals, you know, fix access or different improvements into the home, ADA improvements, and then we have the food bank. And so the food bank, there was a little tricky last year, because when we had came back, they defined even though it's a food, it's a kind of product as a service.

[1:45:28] And so they fell into that cap of that 85,000 dollars.

[1:45:32] And so with available funds, less the other projects above,

[1:45:37] we were able to come in close to $28,000 for the food mills,

[1:45:41] the pre-made food mills, and then they had a special project

[1:45:44] related to fixing their delivery truck.

[1:45:47] That was a need for the delivery truck that we found.

[1:45:50] They were able to, whether there was a request for $27,000

[1:45:53] to make that fix that truck and have it on the road.

[1:45:56] Please, Jim, may they had a range from the minimum to the maximum,

[1:46:02] or we're proposing a 7700, which was at the minimum,

[1:46:05] and then the new training, Dacen, or counseling for 5,000,

[1:46:09] which was a new applicant.

[1:46:10] It was from an individual that's historically ran rest,

[1:46:18] and they put a pretty good application together.

[1:46:20] And so with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions

[1:46:24] and the recommendations in the staff report as presented.

[1:46:38] I'll give a public hearing on this, I believe.

[1:46:41] Public hearing for the 2024 Community Development Block Grant Annual Action Plan

[1:46:46] is now open if there are any members of the public who would like to address the council on the issue.

[1:46:49] Please provide your statement via public comment and state your name and address for the record.

[1:46:54] Do we have any comments from the public on the item? Looks like we've got one.

[1:46:58] Hello, Maria.

[1:47:06] Do I have to state my name and address and everything, right?

[1:47:08] Okay, we're going to use a work address if you want.

[1:47:10] Okay, so my name is Maria Ball, and I'm the director of the Ubisutter Food Bank.

[1:47:15] And the Food Bank is at 760 Stafford Way in Ubis City.

[1:47:19] I am here tonight with our esteemed board chair, Jackie Sillman.

[1:47:23] And we are here just to thank Council and Mayor for your consideration for the Ubisutter

[1:47:27] Food Bank.

[1:47:29] You know, we're looking at that slide up there about inflation and all the different

[1:47:33] costs.

[1:47:34] And the Food Bank is really feeling it and we're feeding a lot of people.

[1:47:38] And in fact, we've, from the year 2022 to 2023, we've, we've increased the people that

[1:47:45] were serving over almost 100%, 80% is where we are.

[1:47:50] We're serving about 25,000 people each month, and we really appreciate your consideration.

[1:47:56] That truck needed a new engine, a whole new engine, 28,000 dollars.

[1:48:01] We didn't have it, so we thank you for your consideration tonight.

[1:48:06] Thank you so much for your support, and we can't do it without you, so thank you very much.

[1:48:12] All right.

[1:48:13] And thank you for all your work.

[1:48:15] Anybody else, Kurt, a comment?

[1:48:18] Nope.

[1:48:21] All right.

[1:48:21] Here in a further comment issue, I am closing the public here and bringing the matter back to council.

[1:48:26] Through the mayor?

[1:48:27] Yes, sir.

[1:48:27] I'd like to make a motion to adopt resolution, improving the proposed 2024 annual action plan.

[1:48:35] authorize and authorize staff to submit the required documents to the Department of Housing

[1:48:42] and Urban Development.

[1:48:43] I'm on the right one.

[1:48:44] I'm sorry.

[1:48:45] That's the Department of Development ahead for processing and authorize the finance

[1:48:50] instructor to add budget appropriations for the grant revenue.

[1:48:55] Second.

[1:48:56] All right.

[1:48:57] First and second to approve that aforementioned action.

[1:49:00] I was in favor of say aye.

[1:49:02] And opposed passage unanimously.

[1:49:05] Thank you very much, Ben.

[1:49:06] Appreciate it.

[1:49:14] Power at number 20.

[1:49:16] There he is.

[1:49:19] Downtown noise ordinance exception.

[1:49:29] Thank you.

[1:49:31] Mayor council members, good evening.

[1:49:33] Okay, so the first item, this item before you, the downtown noise ordinance exception.

[1:49:39] So the purpose this item is to establish noise regulations for entertainment activities associated with restaurants bars or other approved entertainment facilities.

[1:49:48] from 10 PM to midnight in our downtown area.

[1:49:53] So as a little background, staff has heard individual

[1:49:57] council members express support for developing the downtown

[1:50:00] area into an entertainment zone and an effort to draw people

[1:50:04] to the area. And this is currently encouraged today by our

[1:50:09] downtown Business Association or DBA Annual Summer

[1:50:12] Winner Stroll Events and Other Activities. Now the current

[1:50:15] Noise Regulations limit noise associated with music, large gatherings, or from neighbors.

[1:50:22] Basically, the quiet hour starts at 10 p.m. under the current Noise Regulations.

[1:50:26] And although that is really appropriate for a residential area, if you're trying to encourage

[1:50:31] any form of nightlife in your downtown area, it presents some challenges.

[1:50:38] And so the current noise ordinance includes a number of exemptions built into it.

[1:50:43] includes everything from emergency response vehicles, parades, legal fireworks displays.

[1:50:50] Also includes activities on publicly owned land, religious activities, railroad activities,

[1:50:57] solid waste collection, operations at the fair, organized sports event, and the lawful

[1:51:02] discharge of safe and safe fireworks.

[1:51:06] So the ordinance that we're bringing forward to you this

[1:51:09] evening for consideration would apply to properties, and I'm going to show you a map in a

[1:51:15] applies to properties that are zone commercial, C2, or general commercial, C3, that front

[1:51:23] plume-street, and I mean the properties that front plume-street.

[1:51:27] Between Cluse Avenue or State Highway 20 on the north side, bridge street on the south side,

[1:51:31] and properties also fronting center street between plume-street and Chasta.

[1:51:36] This would extend the current time limit from 10pm to midnight.

[1:51:41] on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays weekly, and then would also add the special days

[1:51:48] of New Year, St. Patrick's Day, St. Nicodemio, the weekends of the DBAs summer Christmas

[1:51:56] stroll events and federal holidays. Now, would apply to entertainment activities associated

[1:52:03] with restaurants and bars as I've cited, or other approved entertainment facilities that

[1:52:07] include live or amplify music, indoors or an approved onsite patio, outdoor dining, location,

[1:52:15] established, consistent with city standards. So the noise, it's still required to be consistent

[1:52:21] with a general plan. And so in practice, we see businesses who are within 100 feet of residences

[1:52:29] would agree.

[1:52:30] Quarages submit a plan to the development services department to show us how they would address noise for their area.

[1:52:39] The city would reserve the right to require a noise analysis, be done either ahead of time or afterwards if we get noise complaints to determine the real noise level out in the area and mitigation that could reduce noise to be consistent with the general plan.

[1:52:57] So, here is a map of this area.

[1:53:02] The colored area represents the boundary of the downtown business association and I point

[1:53:09] out so

[1:53:16] on the north side, close to Avenue Highway 20, this is Plumist Street, down here

[1:53:21] bridge street on the south, center street.

[1:53:24] And so the green properties reflect the parcels that front plumists or center street.

[1:53:30] The properties that are highlighted purple are those still within the DBA area, but they

[1:53:36] don't have land-frenting plomus or center street.

[1:53:42] I think going forward, it's important to realize that this is really a first step in developing

[1:53:48] our downtown into more of an entertainment area.

[1:53:52] Our central city specific plan is 32 years old, and it requires updating.

[1:53:57] We are anticipating receiving a federal reconnecting community's grant through SACOG in the amount of $350,000.

[1:54:05] That will be allocated to updating the plan.

[1:54:08] This is going to involve a lot of community outreach to get input from not only individual citizens,

[1:54:15] but as well as the businesses on how they want to see the downtown area developed for the next 30 years and evolve.

[1:54:24] And a part of the separate it would include updated noise analysis applicable to our downtown area.

[1:54:31] So for public outreach for this item, we did coordinate with the downtown business association.

[1:54:37] We consulted with them during the preparation of the ordinance.

[1:54:40] And we also advised them of tonight's meeting at their June 6th board meeting this month.

[1:54:45] We mail notice to property owners not only within the DBA area, but within 300 feet around the DBA.

[1:54:55] We also publish the public hearing notice as required in the newspaper.

[1:55:00] This type of activity we believe is exempt from environment review.

[1:55:04] We cite the Secret Guidelines code section there, because the proposal would be required to be consistent with the general planned noise element.

[1:55:12] allows us to make a determination of exemption.

[1:55:18] So the recommended action we recommend that the Council conduct a public hearing,

[1:55:22] and introduce by title only an ordinance of the City Council of the City

[1:55:26] UBCD promoting business opportunities in our downtown area,

[1:55:30] by many of the municipal code,

[1:55:32] and adopt an exemption under SQL Guidelines Section 15061B3,

[1:55:36] and wave the first reading.

[1:55:38] And I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

[1:55:40] Thank you.

[1:55:45] through the mayor. Mr. Libby, a question that was posed to me earlier today by a

[1:55:52] a citizen here. When you go back and you look at the map of Plumash Street, you've got several

[1:55:57] of those businesses that have parking lots on the backside, and I just want to be clear because I

[1:56:03] think I understand the way this is written, but what prevents them from suddenly setting up an outdoor

[1:56:09] patio as we did during COVID in those parking lots and putting a band back there, which is

[1:56:15] to you know residents can you can you address that and how this would affect that?

[1:56:22] Yes absolutely I think what's key to remember is if you are within a hundred feet of a

[1:56:28] of residences today you're going to have to come to the development services department with the

[1:56:34] plan to say here's where we would like to have some type of entertainment activity and this is how

[1:56:40] we plan to address noise and then we're going to scrutinize that and if we think that

[1:56:46] their proposed plan won't meet the test then we can require that a noise study be completed

[1:56:52] in order to ensure that the noise level will be maintained.

[1:56:58] Okay, and I'm reading it.

[1:57:00] I thought there was kind of these safety nets in there.

[1:57:03] Again, what was brought to me was the question of what stopped some next Saturday night after

[1:57:07] passes to just put in the band out in the back parking lot and open it up for a patio type

[1:57:14] party.

[1:57:15] There are provisions to stop that.

[1:57:16] Yeah.

[1:57:17] It is limited to they have to on a proof location so any type of a patio that they want to

[1:57:24] put up.

[1:57:25] Sometimes what they want to do requires a building permit.

[1:57:27] They still have to do those type of things and go through the process.

[1:57:30] All right.

[1:57:30] Thank you.

[1:57:32] Through the mayor.

[1:57:32] So this, Mr. David, this only triggers when you're within a hundred feet of residential

[1:57:38] correct.

[1:57:40] So the, the, the, the ordinance applies to the properties colored green on the map.

[1:57:46] Now, if your, your property is colored green, and you're within a hundred feet of a residence,

[1:57:52] then you would have to come get a plan approved from the city, but if you're not within

[1:57:57] 100 feet. You could, you still need to conduct business consistent with, you know, all the regulations for access and get permits for if you want to have a certain type of facility.

[1:58:10] But.

[1:58:10] Okay.

[1:58:11] We're kind of leading towards because there's a lot of other.

[1:58:14] I mean, I just went to a function that the hearty shop and they had music in such an ingot 10 o'clock, but there's no residential within a hundred feet of that shop.

[1:58:24] Yeah. So they just have to submit a permit to do their function. So it's still available to other businesses throughout the community without getting triggered unless they're with a hundred feet of residential.

[1:58:39] So yeah, they just want to be clear that this particular ordinance is an exemption just for the plume history area, not citywide.

[1:58:51] It's basically when I go past 10 o'clock, that's when this kicks in.

[1:58:57] Um, okay.

[1:58:59] There he is.

[1:59:00] Any public comment?

[1:59:01] Yes, ma'am.

[1:59:04] Through the mayor.

[1:59:05] May we actually just open this as a public hearing?

[1:59:07] No, it's a cost.

[1:59:08] I'm sorry about that.

[1:59:09] Thank you so much.

[1:59:13] This is a public hearing as well.

[1:59:15] Yes.

[1:59:16] It's been requested by staff.

[1:59:18] Okay.

[1:59:18] Sure.

[1:59:19] We'll open this a public hearing.

[1:59:20] Welcome.

[1:59:21] Again.

[1:59:22] Thank you.

[1:59:23] All right.

[1:59:23] I am a homeowner at 764 Shasta Street, which is directly affected by this ordinance, can you hear me?

[1:59:35] A major issue I already have is that the current ordinances aren't even followed.

[1:59:40] It's pretty consistent when any event happens that the sound prolongs past 10 o'clock.

[1:59:49] it's been that way for as long as we've been there, which is like 14 years. So at this point,

[1:59:55] I don't understand how extending it again or two midnight.

[2:00:00] Is going to change anything and what regulations are in place for that to be managed if it's not already being managed already.

[2:00:08] So, in addition to that, this is a family community and I'm not sure, and it's predominantly families.

[2:00:16] And then we were trying to draw more entertainment, but is the entertainment that's extending

[2:00:23] from 10 to 12 really what UBCD is trying to enhance, are we trying to make this more of

[2:00:31] a nightlife?

[2:00:32] I don't think that it's really there, honestly, after living here for so long, I really think

[2:00:38] that it's more of a family community and putting any kind of measures in and changing should

[2:00:44] probably go directly towards enhancing some

[2:00:48] or more daytime events, not necessarily extending it

[2:00:52] to the night life that really,

[2:00:57] I'm not sure if that's

[2:00:58] really where the UBCDs headed, or that's the goal.

[2:01:01] So I would like to very much oppose extending anything

[2:01:07] when we're not even respecting what exists currently.

[2:01:11] Thank you.

[2:01:12] All right, thank you.

[2:01:14] Anybody else, Kira, comment?

[2:01:23] Okay, sorry I have to take off my glasses because I can't read with them.

[2:01:28] All right, thank you Mayor Harris and Council for allowing me the time to be in front of you tonight.

[2:01:32] My name is Sandy Drown and I am a board member of the University Downtown Business Association.

[2:01:36] We would like to greatly express our gratitude to the Council and City staff for granting us the opportunity to establish this ordinance and harmony with the vision of our organization.

[2:01:45] Our DBA Vision Statement characterizes our anticipations to be acknowledged as the premier shopping,

[2:01:53] dining, and entertainment district, or I'm sorry, destination in the region. The DBA

[2:02:00] wholeheartedly endorses this ordinance and extensive syrup appreciation today's

[2:02:04] shop and the city council are the city staff for their invaluable contributions,

[2:02:08] notably Doug Libby, who we've had several discussions to collaborate and advance this initiative.

[2:02:15] And as I know for our strolls, I just wanted to speak from the person before me that spoke.

[2:02:23] Our strolls end at nine, and I know that I help close down all the strolls.

[2:02:28] And so at 10 o'clock, there is no music that even happens just because we don't have that opportunity.

[2:02:33] And this ordinance would give us an opportunity to make that event,

[2:02:37] especially in the summertime a little bit later because of the heat to for our community and others to enjoy.

[2:02:45] Thank you.

[2:02:46] All right.

[2:02:46] Thank you.

[2:02:47] Anybody else?

[2:02:49] All right.

[2:02:50] We'll go ahead and close public hearing.

[2:02:51] Bring about the council.

[2:03:01] Through the mayor.

[2:03:01] Yep.

[2:03:02] We have to read the whole thing under action to begin.

[2:03:05] Yes, sir.

[2:03:07] I moved.

[2:03:07] We introduced by title only an ordinance of the city of.

[2:03:12] Ordnance of the city council.

[2:03:14] The city of UBC to promote business opportunities in the downtown area.

[2:03:18] by a mending section 4-17.2 of chapter 17.04 of the UBCD municipal code and adopt an exemption

[2:03:27] under SQL guidelines section 15061, B3, and wave the first reading.

[2:03:34] First and second to approve recommended action.

[2:03:37] All those in favor say aye.

[2:03:38] Aye.

[2:03:39] And opposed passes.

[2:03:41] I would add, man, that I'm not sure how you've dug into the issue that concern you have.

[2:03:48] If you've talked to the DBA or folks there, maybe the source of the music or the noise,

[2:03:54] if you have not, I would encourage you to do that 100 feet, notwithstanding.

[2:03:58] I don't think anybody wants to have any bad feelings.

[2:04:02] The intent to provide options and entertainment options for the community and business owners

[2:04:07] and what not, the intent is not to make your life miserable.

[2:04:10] And we talked about mitigation factors that we're going to be requiring and having people step into.

[2:04:16] Again, 100 feet or not, we'd be worth the conversation so I guarantee you no one wants to

[2:04:20] Great problems for you. Okay? All right. Thank you.

[2:04:26] 1, 2, number 21,

[2:04:30] Citizens Oversight Committee.

[2:05:13] We are near the end here.

[2:05:15] So we have the Citizens Oversight Committee and the item that we're talking about tonight are

[2:05:20] tasks, objectives, composition, and member qualifications. So since December of 2022,

[2:05:26] The City Council has evaluated a potential revenue measure and we had an ad hoc committee

[2:05:32] of Mayor Garis and Councilmember Boomgarden that through process of working with a citizen's

[2:05:40] group came forward last December with a recommendation of a 1% general tax in which funds

[2:05:47] can be spent on items such as roads and public safety.

[2:05:51] Share a portion of the revenues with federal county for services that provide benefit to

[2:05:54] capacity residents, include a Citizens Oversight Committee, and then the measure would be

[2:05:59] in effect until ended by voters.

[2:06:01] So it's important at the July 16th Council meeting, this item will be coming before Council

[2:06:06] in terms of the potential of placing a measure on the ballot, and so it's what we wanted

[2:06:13] to do.

[2:06:14] As we are going around and doing the informational meetings, there's a lot of questions that

[2:06:18] have come up about the Citizens Oversight Committee, so we wanted to bring forward the structure

[2:06:22] so that individuals would understand what the intent is.

[2:06:27] So there's a series of several tasks that would be the responsibility of this committee.

[2:06:32] So they would review the revenue and expenditures of the funds generated by the measure.

[2:06:37] They would also review the annual independent financial audit that's prepared for the city,

[2:06:41] and specifically would include these funds as well.

[2:06:44] They would prepare an independent report for the city council to understand how the funds were budgeted and then spent.

[2:06:52] They would also act as a citizens oversight committee for fun shared with Sutter County.

[2:06:58] And then this is the key is that they would have the Retain the Authority to submit

[2:07:02] the committee's annual report to the Sutter County grand jury.

[2:07:05] This would not require council approval.

[2:07:07] So if they deemed it necessary that they were concerned with how the money was spent or

[2:07:11] budgeted that they could submit their report directly to the grand jury without council authorization.

[2:07:17] The committee type would be a standing committee. It would be advisory and nature.

[2:07:22] There would be five members. They would need to be at least 18 years of age.

[2:07:26] Need to reside in Uvis City or own a business in Uvis City.

[2:07:30] Register to vote. And for appointment, an application would be required. The review committee would be comprised of the mayor, the finance director, the city manager, but ultimately the city council would approve the appointments to this committee. The term for the first round two members would have two year terms, three members would have three year terms, and then every appointment thereafter would be based upon the three year term.

[2:07:56] The meetings they would be required to participate in at least two meetings per year.

[2:08:02] All meetings would be noticed per the Ralph and Brown Act, and then minutes would be prepared

[2:08:06] by city staff and become public record.

[2:08:11] Funding there would not, these members would not be compensated, so it would be voluntary and

[2:08:15] nature, and the other thing is that committee members would be required to file statements

[2:08:21] of economic interest and then also complete AB 1234 local ethics training upon appointment.

[2:08:28] The fiscal impact, again, participation is voluntary.

[2:08:31] There would be staff time to provide information to the committee members.

[2:08:35] It's intended that the finance department would be the liaison with the committee.

[2:08:41] Alternatives would be to modify the task objectives composition or qualifications or to delay

[2:08:47] discussion of this item until after the November 2024 election, should the A measure be

[2:08:55] successful at that point in time Council would adopt an ordinance and the creation of

[2:09:01] the Citizens Oversight Committee would be incorporated into the ordinance, so the tasks would

[2:09:06] currently be set by resolution the committee would be created by ordinance. So the recommendation

[2:09:12] is to adopt a resolution, establishing the task,

[2:09:15] objectives, composition, and member qualifications.

[2:09:19] And with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions,

[2:09:22] or encourage any members of the Council on the ad hoc,

[2:09:26] if they wanted to add to this discussion as well.

[2:09:29] So thank you.

[2:09:33] Through the mayor, thank you, Ms. Langley.

[2:09:35] I think that at the presentations to the community

[2:09:39] that I've been involved with this

[2:09:40] seems to be extremely consistent and question that comes up is what's the citizen's oversight committee, what are they going to do?

[2:09:51] How often are they going to meet? What is their real power to hold in the spending accountable to those items that we have if past that we have designed the revenue measure money to be spent?

[2:10:05] So I'm encouraged by the fact, and thank you for getting this done early, so that we can

[2:10:11] begin to at least articulate communicate that to those who folks who have a concern over

[2:10:18] is the money going to be spent in the way that you say it's going to be spent, which

[2:10:22] is a key item that I believe we learned from previous sales tax revenue measures in the

[2:10:28] community.

[2:10:29] Thank you.

[2:10:32] That's been a common question that we get at these presentations as to how do we know.

[2:10:38] And so this oversight committee definitely a key component not only is it a good business,

[2:10:43] but it also helps sell the idea and build that built in a level of trust for the folks out there.

[2:10:50] I had a couple of questions presented to me with the Minis B public and the line item that are

[2:10:55] the Brown Axle Museum is going to be a public meeting which is good. Question we are thinking

[2:10:59] about too when we're discussing this is the 1% will be going into general fund, how are we going

[2:11:07] to differentiate what is, how are they going to critique the additional one and what's all coming

[2:11:12] out of the same pod? I don't know if this is going to be an extra process we have to go through

[2:11:16] to be able to tell which what. So we would work with finance that they would go into a specific revenue

[2:11:22] account, so that they would be set aside separately from other, I mean, we have multiple revenue

[2:11:28] accounts. This would become another one that the funds go into.

[2:11:30] Perfect. That's a good answer. Thank you very much for that.

[2:11:33] Thank you.

[2:11:35] Um, yeah. Why you don't know? Right. Um, you can pick and choose and cherry pick your thoughts.

[2:11:41] Um, and you have nothing.

[2:11:42] No.

[2:11:42] Mike has one. Nothing.

[2:11:45] All right. Good to meet you. Go ahead.

[2:11:48] Um, I just want to say thank you to our ad hoc committee because you guys have been

[2:11:52] this long and hard for a long time, and just like you said, everybody's been asking about this,

[2:11:57] and the word that comes to mind is accountability, because that's what's been the problem

[2:12:02] with previous rev measures is, where's the accountability piece, and this is huge in this.

[2:12:06] So I want to say thank you on that, and this just re-emphasizes what we just went through.

[2:12:14] We got to get this assistance oversight established, and we got to get the rev stuff moving,

[2:12:19] And that's gotta be our focus, so I just want to say thanks.

[2:12:22] Sure.

[2:12:23] All right.

[2:12:23] Is he public comment?

[2:12:29] Been waiting for you.

[2:12:46] I named his Lawrence Merch, some member resident in Yuba County,

[2:12:49] a southern county excuse me.

[2:12:51] And I'm curious about the oversight committee.

[2:12:55] What penalties will they have if they don't follow the

[2:12:58] with the oversight committee?

[2:13:00] The Germans.

[2:13:02] So they're going to be any kind of penalty function.

[2:13:04] I suggest I wash where we have oversight committee, but nothing happens because there's no follow-up on it.

[2:13:12] The follow-up would be that they would go to the grand jury and then basically it becomes public knowledge that we didn't do what we say we were going to do and no one wants that to happen and we certainly don't attend for it to be the case.

[2:13:27] It's pretty much the extent that I'm aware of this.

[2:13:29] Yeah. I take that question a little differently in terms of what if the committee members aren't performing their duties?

[2:13:37] Did I misunderstand your question there?

[2:13:39] Okay

[2:13:41] I will admit I didn't quite hear everything, but I think that but okay, we're good

[2:13:46] You have your question answered

[2:13:48] Okay, sir.

[2:14:05] You want me to take a shot

[2:14:06] Two things. I think number one obviously the grand jury could be

[2:14:12] You make grand jury aware that the money is not being spent.

[2:14:15] The oversight committee could make a recommendation or pass the information known to the

[2:14:19] grand jury.

[2:14:20] But ultimately, it's a power of the vote.

[2:14:24] If a council comes up here and starts spending the money in ways that are not in concert

[2:14:31] with how the money was supposed to be spent, then those are the consequences.

[2:14:34] I think it's important for people to vote for folks that are going to follow what the intent of these revenues are for, which are roads, public safety, and dealing with the homeless issue.

[2:14:47] So there's a couple of fail-safes in there, as far as I'm concerned.

[2:14:52] I know people probably want more, but that's what we can provide at this particular point in time.

[2:14:58] You're welcome.

[2:14:59] I should go inside.

[2:15:00] Glorify, whistleblower.

[2:15:03] Can I have the mayor thing Mr. Mayor?

[2:15:05] So, through the mayor, if I could be Vice-Minister.

[2:15:07] And I usually don't jump in on policy sort of items, but I did want to note in many other communities.

[2:15:13] And what is being proposed here this evening is Citizens Oversight Committee is basically a watchdog who posted what's going on.

[2:15:20] But the alternative to that is to have them have control over funds.

[2:15:23] many communities in fact every community have been in and said no we don't want that because

[2:15:28] you have unelected people who are not responsible to the electorate starting to control

[2:15:34] public funds when they're not subject to public review or public control or public election.

[2:15:42] So usually the balance between that is you set up a division of powers just like we have

[2:15:47] separation of powers where you have an independent watchdog group making sure you're publicly

[2:15:52] elected officials are doing what they're supposed to do, so that's part of the concept

[2:15:56] in there as well.

[2:15:58] Thank you.

[2:16:00] Through the mayor?

[2:16:02] One other point, Larry, on this, and she's, what she had it up there a second ago.

[2:16:10] Yep, what there was, there you go.

[2:16:13] The Citizens Oversight Committee, because we are going to be sharing the revenues with

[2:16:17] Center County for Sheriff and District Attorney and staff as the intent there.

[2:16:22] The same oversight committee is not only going to look at the city and the five people that are

[2:16:26] setting here, but it's going to look at the county and how they spent the shared funds and the

[2:16:30] five that sets on their board. So they have a dual purpose. They're not just looking at just what goes to

[2:16:36] the city. So they're looking at everything.

[2:16:43] All right.

[2:16:44] When you're in action, please.

[2:16:51] Through the mayor.

[2:16:52] It's good.

[2:16:53] I like to make motion to adopt a resolution to establish, to establish the tasks objectives composition,

[2:17:00] and member qualifications for a Citizens Oversight Committee should a potential revenue measure

[2:17:06] be successful.

[2:17:09] First and second to approve staff recommendation and all those in favor say aye.

[2:17:13] Anniposed.

[2:17:14] Passage unanimously.

[2:17:15] Thank you very much.

[2:17:18] Any future agenda items from us or comments from the public?

[2:17:25] Nothing.

[2:17:26] Reports and communications beginning with City Manager.

[2:17:31] All right.

[2:17:31] Thank you.

[2:17:35] So tomorrow afternoon at the Happy Viking,

[2:17:37] we have a shop talk.

[2:17:39] So it's a noon and we will be doing a presentation

[2:17:41] related to the revenue measure.

[2:17:44] June 25th, we have another presentation

[2:17:46] at the Center of Ube Association of Realtors at 9 AM.

[2:17:50] June 26th, we are going to be at Waffle Wednesday

[2:17:53] at the Senior Center at 9.30 AM, doing a presentation.

[2:17:58] And then also at the upcoming UbeCitter Fair

[2:18:01] starting Thursday night through Sunday we will be doing I will have the booth there next to the police department booth and we will have council members and department heads there to answer questions and then also over the next couple of weeks you will see increased

[2:18:19] information related to 4th of July fireworks

[2:18:22] as safe and sane and as we ramp up for that holiday.

[2:18:27] So thank you.

[2:18:29] Thank you.

[2:18:30] Council member Kirchner.

[2:18:31] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:18:34] Since we last met, I attended the Gillesizer Board of Directors meeting.

[2:18:39] We had the adoption of the fiscal year 2020-25 budget.

[2:18:45] With the mosquito vector, the personnel committee, which I was on,

[2:18:49] We got together and moved forward and we approved with the rest of the board.

[2:18:55] Every salary of a 4% bump in call-up for their employees, also passed preliminary budget approval.

[2:19:03] With Seboofka ongoing projects are pretty much the same.

[2:19:06] We did the approval of the amendments to consultant agreements for Adency Support for Fiscal Year 2425.

[2:19:13] attended the summer stroll, which was very well attended, was nice to see folks going out

[2:19:18] because the weather was very agreeable this year. I was happy to attend the push in ceremony

[2:19:26] of station four this year. We have a new piece of equipment that's at the site's fire right now,

[2:19:31] is that right? Did you mention? I did take the opportunity to have a discussion with our fire chief

[2:19:39] and some of the firefighters that were called out Saturday night to one of the largest fires

[2:19:47] that I've seen in this community over in Mary'sville, and it was an eye opener for me to see what

[2:19:58] I'm in and women do on a daily basis just throwing themselves in harm's way. The video and the

[2:20:09] or going to level to level, room to room in that old building to make sure it was clear.

[2:20:21] And it was just amazing that we have employees that do that, but their lives in a harmless

[2:20:30] way.

[2:20:30] So I want to applaud them for doing what they do day in and day out.

[2:20:35] And with that, I'll conclude my report.

[2:20:39] All right, thank you, Council Member Bungarten.

[2:20:43] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:20:44] Participated in several revenue measure information meetings throughout the community.

[2:20:50] Happy to report that at the ones that I was at anyway.

[2:20:55] Excellent questions.

[2:20:56] Lots of nodding heads doesn't mean that everybody's an agreement,

[2:20:59] but the information is being shared.

[2:21:01] And I think the outreach, outreach efforts are doing good.

[2:21:07] Attendance, the Sutterbeats Flight Control Agency, we have passed their annual budget.

[2:21:13] Council, a person, Piscqualini and I met with members of Habitat for Humanity, the

[2:21:19] Homeless Consortium, the Life Center, somebody else too, Mike, maybe you can help me there.

[2:21:27] For the Baptist Church property, I think that's kind of been on people's minds.

[2:21:31] We are working with them, and hopefully we will have an operational plan from them shortly.

[2:21:38] They have said that they were going to do that.

[2:21:42] I attended the Push in Ceremonie for the New Wildland Engine, which was immediately placed into service to the west of us.

[2:21:48] All you have to do is look at the smoke column and know they are probably busy.

[2:21:53] I attended a senior commission meeting, thank you all.

[2:21:57] I think there's a big bingo thing or something coming up, but I'm sure John will have that.

[2:22:01] going, but waffle Wednesdays and everything else was able to staff a booth at the summer

[2:22:11] stroll for the revenue measure as well. A lot of people looking at the posters as you might

[2:22:16] imagine is probably wasn't high on their list of things to come over and shit chat about.

[2:22:21] A sales tax measure, but we were there and I know that the vice mayor and the council person

[2:22:26] her turn was there as well. One of you look, you know, again.

[2:22:30] And to our firefighters that placed themselves in Mary'sville to assist Mary'sville, fire during the hotel Mary'sville, which I think if we went back through records, I'd probably at least a third or fourth time that you've a city firefighters have been inside that building.

[2:22:46] It does not appear that that building at this particular point in time is going to be able to exist any longer. We'll have to wait and see what the engineers reports are.

[2:22:58] And just, you know, more on a kind of a regional thing, those of you who are baseball fans will be disappointed to hear that Willie Mays passed today, and a guy was kind of a guy that was important to a lot of us who paid attention to San Francisco Giants baseball, so maybe we can close a little bit in memory and let's not necessarily the most protocol thing, but man did have an impact.

[2:23:25] Thank you.

[2:23:28] And let's remember Pascoli.

[2:23:30] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:23:32] I, as I've been discussed in previous reports,

[2:23:36] Strolls brought very well attended.

[2:23:38] I think it's starting at the game momentum.

[2:23:41] And we had several conversations about the revenue.

[2:23:45] Then the final question was, where do you live?

[2:23:48] And they weren't even in the community, but we had good conversation.

[2:23:53] push in was always a treat to do. I'm probably going to embarrass my nephew. He was with

[2:24:01] me. This is my nephew's here. He's serving our country and he's being relocated to Fort

[2:24:07] Erwin. He attended with me to the push in at Hot Committee at the Habitat. I think

[2:24:15] Councilwoman Bungard and I were both very clear of what our expectations were for that and the Lieutenant

[2:24:22] Brazil gave a very succinct explanation of what the expectations of the, at least the Department

[2:24:31] is as well.

[2:24:34] Went to the Hispanic Advancement Scholarship Dinner last week, very well attended, they gave

[2:24:43] I would say approximately 15 to 18 scholarships to the young people moving on with their education.

[2:24:55] A lot of moving stories, Judge Santana gave the keynote speaker, he was a keynote speaker,

[2:25:01] and talked about perseverance and hard work and all of those things.

[2:25:06] I think he was kind of preaching to the choir because these kids were all very dedicated and what they did.

[2:25:12] And what I was really impressed with is the fact that the Hispanic community is even giving

[2:25:20] out scholarships and non-Hispanic children is really need-based.

[2:25:25] And if you bring them a story and a need, they step up and I commend them for that.

[2:25:32] And without it, I conclude my report.

[2:25:34] All right, nice mirror.

[2:25:35] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:25:38] I attended a few things.

[2:25:39] I was tied up with continuing education

[2:25:41] in my profession during the last couple of weeks.

[2:25:44] But did go to this stroll.

[2:25:46] And we worked the booth in the afternoon

[2:25:49] and people came by and talked.

[2:25:51] I think if we had had food and drinks,

[2:25:52] we'd probably got more people in there.

[2:25:56] So, middle note, next time,

[2:25:57] sort of margaritas that might get them in there.

[2:25:59] But it was a good reception.

[2:26:01] People seemed inquisitive as far as what's going on.

[2:26:04] Really no negative pushback people are ready to see the roads fixed in our city and more money put into public safety

[2:26:11] One of thank our U.V. City Police Department for helping us at the stroll get all set up and get us going

[2:26:18] We got there and was missing a few things the next thing I know they start pulling out tables and stuff

[2:26:23] So chief. Thank you to you and your team and it was joy to hang out not only

[2:26:28] With my colleague, but with PD and right next to us was FD and it was it was a great afternoon

[2:26:34] So I really appreciate that and thank you Ms. Langley for coming to our rescue and bringing us all the stuff that we needed.

[2:26:41] So thank you to you and Matt.

[2:26:44] And I want to say thank you to our Far Department and Chief Alexander.

[2:26:49] It was an honor for me to be able to say the blessing over the new engine.

[2:26:56] And as I've said it many, many times, I respect you and your entire team.

[2:27:02] And a way that words can, it's hard to express because of the job that you do because every

[2:27:09] time those alarms go off, you're really doing things like you did it with Mary's will.

[2:27:14] We're going into very dangerous situations that, you know, it could be a very bad situation.

[2:27:22] I just want to say thank you and it was my honor to be a part of that.

[2:27:26] The next couple of weeks are going to be real busy as the mayor and I have a lot of meetings

[2:27:31] coming up on the seek festival and parade and we've got some ad hoc meetings and such

[2:27:36] coming up so that will be forthcoming and the last thing is the RWMA. We are moving forward

[2:27:43] with the recruitment process so we had a timeline come through today that we're looking and the

[2:27:50] goal right now is if it can be pulled off is to try to have a new executive director in the fall.

[2:27:57] So we're looking probably the October November timeframe.

[2:28:01] So we are daily working on that.

[2:28:05] So with that, I'll hand it back to you, sir.

[2:28:08] All right.

[2:28:09] One of the bad things about going last

[2:28:11] is everybody still is your thunder,

[2:28:13] because we all attend so many things.

[2:28:15] But I reiterate with Councilman Boom Garden said

[2:28:18] about the revenue major presentations.

[2:28:20] We've had a lot of good participation,

[2:28:22] a lot of good will fought out questions and reception to our answers and I think it's going

[2:28:29] quite well and this is I think one of the biggest public outreach efforts we've made as a

[2:28:34] city and I can definitely think it's paying off and going very well. I attended the River Valley

[2:28:39] High School graduation which was very good. It was the weather cooperated as council member

[2:28:47] Kirchner said, Gil Siser, we approve the annual budget.

[2:28:51] Today, we've been cutting for a new business,

[2:28:53] Clover Beauty Supply, which is on Plum Street,

[2:28:55] between AMPM and the Baptist Church.

[2:28:59] They're tucked in there in that little strip mall.

[2:29:01] They seem to be doing really well, very well appointed.

[2:29:04] And a lot of amenities and services they provide there.

[2:29:06] It was nice to meet the owner and neighbors, Catherine.

[2:29:10] Some are stroll, as already stated, of course,

[2:29:12] was a very good attendance and a very good community event.

[2:29:16] It's always a pleasure to be a part of that.

[2:29:18] The push in ceremony once again was wonderful to see.

[2:29:22] It's nice to see the continuation of traditions,

[2:29:27] the fire departments have done for years and years back

[2:29:30] when they literally had to push the horse drawn stuff

[2:29:33] into the garage.

[2:29:35] But a sense of camaraderie and pride in tradition

[2:29:37] for a fire department reminder to them

[2:29:39] of the responsibility that they have and our commitment

[2:29:43] to public safety as a council, just right literally shining an example of that effort and it was

[2:29:49] very nice to be a part of that historic moment and of course it immediately gets put into use.

[2:29:54] So, and I learned a lot of details about that particular vehicle that I didn't quite

[2:30:00] I know before and there's a lot of things feature an specific type of vehicle that's going to be really good for our folks and keep them safe and I actually more efficient.

[2:30:09] I did some interviews for our personnel board. I still have one left to do and as always spoke and met with a lot of very good people, all of whom would do a good job in that role.

[2:30:20] So it's got a decision to make there, but it went well.

[2:30:24] and things are progressing, I think we have youth commission interviews, a set of those coming

[2:30:28] up sometime soon too. So other than that, there's nothing more. And we will close in remembrance

[2:30:36] of Mr. William Ace. Thank you very much.

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