[0:20] camera's live

[0:23] good morning fellow directors first of

[0:26] all i'd just like to acknowledge

[0:28] our gathering virtually throughout the

[0:30] traditional territories

[0:32] of the coast salish people and welcome

[0:35] you to today's agenda

[0:37] we apologize for the technical glitch in

[0:40] getting going

[0:41] um as chair stone had said

[0:45] it may be a 2020 hangover that has been

[0:48] prolonged

[0:50] with your indulgence before we approve

[0:52] the agenda i've had a request

[0:54] from director nicholson

[0:57] to delay r1 until her return she had

[1:01] some input on a couple of those so if

[1:02] you're okay with that

[1:04] delaying till her return i see nodding

[1:07] of heads

[1:08] so miss lego thank you mr chair the

[1:12] first item of business is the approval

[1:14] of the agenda

[1:16] so moved seconded

[1:20] any discussion all those in favor

[1:25] opposed if any that motion carries thank

[1:28] you very much

[1:29] this will go

[1:32] and for public input period i have not

[1:34] received any submissions for this

[1:36] meeting

[1:37] there's no delegations correspondence or

[1:39] information so it would be

[1:41] on to reports and

[1:45] as we are delayed delaying r1 for

[1:48] director nicholson we can move on to r2

[1:51] which is a report from the finance

[1:52] division

[1:53] 2021 electoral area supplemental

[1:56] requests referred from december 2nd

[1:58] the recommendation is that it be

[2:00] recommended to the board that the

[2:01] supplemental requests for function 238

[2:03] community parks area h

[2:04] fern gully trail bridge be approved and

[2:06] two that the supplemental request for

[2:08] function 238 community parks area h

[2:10] hiking and equestrian bridge west trail

[2:12] be approved

[2:15] okay anyone from staff going to start

[2:17] with this or

[2:19] are we going right to the directors

[2:27] i think i saw director martin your hand

[2:29] up

[2:30] yes thank you chair um just would like

[2:32] to defer

[2:33] this to the special corporate meeting on

[2:36] january 25 the parks

[2:39] advisory commission for area 8 is just

[2:42] getting up and running next week

[2:44] so i'd like to have this in front of

[2:46] them before we make a decision

[2:51] move to refer and seconded any further

[2:53] discussion on the referral

[2:56] all those in favor opposed if any

[3:00] so that will be referred to january 25th

[3:02] mr

[3:03] martin next miss lego

[3:07] thank you mr chair our three report from

[3:09] facilities and transit division

[3:11] regarding the 2021 draft budget for

[3:12] function 106 commuter transit

[3:15] this was referred from the december 9

[3:17] special corporate services meeting and

[3:18] the recommendation is that it be

[3:20] recommended to the board that the 2021

[3:22] draft budget as amended for function 106

[3:24] commuter transit be approved

[3:29] miss our director stone moving that

[3:32] i was moving yep and do i have a

[3:34] seconder

[3:36] second it um

[3:40] director marsh

[3:44] mr wacom would you like to speak to this

[3:48] i can give an update mr chair uh as it

[3:50] is a an update from the december meeting

[3:52] um this one is uh much more positive in

[3:53] that we now have the

[3:55] bc restart contribution funding for both

[3:57] uh function 106 and the next one is 107.

[4:00] um just for the committee's

[4:02] understanding the commuter function 106

[4:05] bc restart contribution is 606

[4:08] 000 over two years which is 303 per year

[4:12] that amount is retro to april 1 of 2020

[4:15] and it is also

[4:16] uh shared with the capital regional

[4:18] district for the directors who are

[4:20] unaware that this service is we have a

[4:22] partner with the capital regional

[4:23] district

[4:24] um as the report mentions the bc restart

[4:27] funding comes with three conditions

[4:29] though

[4:29] that the existing service levels be

[4:31] maintained that the current fares also

[4:33] be maintained and any

[4:35] fair increases that are considered are

[4:37] to be limited to an average of 2.3

[4:39] percent

[4:39] for the next four years and the third

[4:42] condition is that the annual operating

[4:43] agreement with bc transit must be

[4:45] approved and signed by january 31 of

[4:47] 2021.

[4:49] there's a separate report going to the

[4:50] 3pm community services meeting later

[4:52] this afternoon to deal with that

[4:54] so with the first two conditions um the

[4:57] options that we provided back on

[4:58] december the 9th to the report they're

[5:00] really not valid

[5:01] uh we can't reduce the service and the

[5:03] fare increases of of 2.3

[5:05] is only 5 cents on a 225 cash fare

[5:10] but the good news is for at least 2021

[5:12] we no longer need to consider reducing

[5:13] services to get the tax requisition

[5:15] level to be zero from the 2020 amount

[5:18] um so there's three amendments that are

[5:20] already made to the draft

[5:22] 2021 function 106 budget that have been

[5:25] incorporated into the two

[5:27] documents or the attachments which is

[5:29] the um

[5:30] the euro the report by cost center as

[5:32] well as the five year plan

[5:34] and the three amendments are the

[5:36] inclusion of the cvrd share of the bc

[5:38] restart funding

[5:39] uh contribution of 167 109

[5:44] and the deferral of the approved new

[5:46] transit assistant position to september

[5:48] of 2021

[5:49] which three hundred saves 17 three

[5:51] dollars

[5:53] and thirdly the increase to the bc

[5:54] transit contract service expense by

[5:56] eight thousand four hundred and fifty

[5:58] one

[5:58] those three items uh end up netting a

[6:01] net

[6:02] savings of the 175 thousand

[6:05] dollars which would mean there's no tax

[6:07] increase for the 2021 year

[6:09] that's really the quick summary of what

[6:11] the staff report is and i'm open to any

[6:13] questions that directors may have

[6:16] okay do i see any hands directors

[6:21] director marsh

[6:26] yeah i don't actually have a question

[6:27] but it is a big relief

[6:29] um for 2021 because i think it would

[6:32] have been

[6:33] hopefully we would have still gone ahead

[6:35] but it would have been tough i know for

[6:37] some people

[6:38] so thank you mr wacom and thank you to

[6:41] was it the province or the feds who gave

[6:43] the restart money

[6:45] it's both it was it was a partnership

[6:46] with the feds and the province

[6:48] fantastic thank you

[6:52] any further directors ready for the

[6:55] question

[6:56] all those in favor opposed if any

[7:01] that motion carries thank you miss lego

[7:05] thank you mr chair item r4's report from

[7:08] facilities and transit division on the

[7:10] 2021 draft budget for function 107

[7:12] conventional and custom transit services

[7:14] and the proposed recommendation is that

[7:16] it be recommended to the board that the

[7:18] 2021 draft budget is amended for

[7:19] function 107 conventional and

[7:21] custom transit services be approved

[7:25] do i have a mover for that one moved and

[7:28] seconded

[7:28] mr wacom would you like to approach this

[7:31] one as well

[7:32] thank you mr chair sure it's a very

[7:34] similar situation

[7:36] when we presented the preliminary uh

[7:38] budget back in december it was

[7:39] very bleak with uh sitting at a large

[7:41] tax increase of about 261 thousand

[7:44] dollars

[7:44] but that was prior to any knowledge of

[7:46] what the bc

[7:48] restart funding contribution would be we

[7:49] now know what that amount is

[7:51] and that amount for function 107 is very

[7:54] similar as 106. it's 604 000

[7:57] over two years again retro back to april

[7:59] one of 2020

[8:00] so the 2021 the 2020 year should also

[8:04] end up being much better than first

[8:06] expected but with regard to 2021 budget

[8:09] which is we're talking about

[8:11] function 107 had eight amendments made

[8:13] to the preliminary budget and again

[8:15] those have already been incorporated

[8:17] so that they were done a couple about a

[8:19] week ago or two weeks ago so the board

[8:21] could get an understanding

[8:23] that transit we knew was going to be

[8:24] down to zero and that you would get a

[8:27] better update when you were looking at

[8:28] other budgets and making decisions

[8:30] so the eight amendments there's really

[8:32] in two parts to this the first four

[8:34] items that are noted in the report

[8:36] these just reflect current uh trends on

[8:38] revenues and so

[8:40] and things like the deferring of the

[8:42] custom sunday service which was already

[8:43] approved

[8:44] so those four items reduce the tax by

[8:46] forty thousand five hundred dollars

[8:49] the balance which are new items the new

[8:51] amendments are

[8:52] again the inclusion of the cvrd share of

[8:54] the bc restart

[8:56] funding amount of 302 000

[8:59] the deferral of the approved new transit

[9:01] assistant position to september which

[9:02] saves 36

[9:03] 000 because this position is cost shared

[9:06] between the two

[9:06] transit functions and thirdly to

[9:09] increase the bc

[9:10] transit contract services by sixty

[9:12] thousand dollars

[9:13] and the last item is to uh include

[9:17] uh fifty eight thousand dollars or

[9:19] specifically fifty seven thousand five

[9:21] hundred and eighty six dollars to

[9:22] transfer to the operating reserve

[9:24] and the reason being to bring the

[9:26] balance closer to the minimum policy

[9:27] requirement we're just under that

[9:29] and so this would help us bring it very

[9:31] close the total of the

[9:33] of the first four items as well as the

[9:35] four new items that have all been

[9:37] incorporated already in the attachments

[9:39] brings the total net savings down

[9:41] exactly what we needed 260 914

[9:45] therefore in summary having no tax

[9:48] increase from 2020. again open to any

[9:50] questions that directors may have

[9:53] looking at my virtual panel do i see any

[9:57] hands

[9:58] questions comments first of all i'd like

[10:01] to thank you mr wacom for

[10:03] for the hard work and getting where we

[10:04] are today uh

[10:06] did not look very promising a couple of

[10:08] weeks ago but uh

[10:09] kudos and implementing those changes

[10:13] thank you

[10:16] so i will call the question all those in

[10:18] favor

[10:20] opposed if any that motion carries

[10:25] miss lego please thank you mr chair onto

[10:28] r5

[10:29] report from the finance division on 2021

[10:31] budget regional supplemental requests

[10:34] and the recommendation is that it be

[10:36] recommended to the board that the

[10:37] supplemental requests for the following

[10:39] functions be approved

[10:40] function 100 general government regional

[10:43] recreation referendum

[10:44] analysis two economic development

[10:46] regional connectivity strategy

[10:49] a three two function 280 regional parks

[10:51] couch and valley trail replacement to

[10:53] major culverts

[10:55] four function 280 regional parks

[10:56] regional active transportation plan

[10:58] five function 280 regional parks vehicle

[11:01] replacement

[11:02] six function 285 regional parkland

[11:04] acquisition master plan review

[11:06] 7520 solid waste management complex

[11:09] transfer station scale replacement

[11:11] and eight function 520 solid waste

[11:14] management complex peerless road skid

[11:16] steer replacement

[11:19] thank you very much uh your pleasure on

[11:21] these would you like to deal with these

[11:23] one at a time

[11:24] um director oh actually i had

[11:27] director wilson first and then director

[11:28] kim

[11:30] uh thank you mr chair um i would like to

[11:33] deal with

[11:34] uh number six um on its own please i i i

[11:38] have some uh comments on that one

[11:44] okay thank you very much director kuhn

[11:53] and director sebring i would move

[11:56] uh items one through eight with the

[11:59] exception of number six just to get

[12:01] those

[12:01] off the table and i have a seconder

[12:07] any further comments on that

[12:11] director smith

[12:17] yes would it be possible to pull um

[12:20] the number uh

[12:24] just a minute the active regional active

[12:28] transportation plan

[12:32] out of there which is i believe number

[12:36] four

[12:41] absolutely if you wish we can do that as

[12:43] well

[12:45] and i think i saw director salmon as

[12:47] well

[12:48] yeah should we pull number one too

[12:50] please

[12:55] so i have one four and six

[12:58] for a discussion any further

[13:04] so director sebring that motion would

[13:07] include those except for six four and

[13:10] one

[13:10] yeah i consider that a friendly

[13:12] amendment i didn't realize other people

[13:14] wanted to pull

[13:14] i jumped the gun so yeah uh all the

[13:16] items except one four and six

[13:18] moved in second seconder's okay with

[13:21] that

[13:21] i'll call the question all those in

[13:23] favor

[13:24] opposed if any sounds good

[13:28] now we'll move to number one for

[13:32] discussion

[13:37] director salmon yeah thank you i just

[13:40] want to make sure i understood it so

[13:42] some of this is for the um

[13:46] referendum and some of it's for the

[13:48] usage

[13:50] monitoring is that correct

[13:56] i see miss aldera nodding okay

[14:00] okay anyway further

[14:03] and then it's all from reserve

[14:08] is that right none from requisition

[14:13] yes ms solera so just if i may just so

[14:17] you don't have to just look at me

[14:18] nodding

[14:18] uh absolutely so this is a combination

[14:21] of the two

[14:22] um initiatives and it will all be coming

[14:24] from operating reserve

[14:26] under uh the general government function

[14:28] which the regional

[14:30] recreation initiative has been funded

[14:32] from

[14:33] thus far

[14:36] yeah okay one point okay i have director

[14:39] stone and then director kuhn

[14:40] oh director stone's fine director kuhn

[14:43] please

[14:44] yeah i just have a comment um if there

[14:48] is a request to draw down money from a

[14:50] reserve fund

[14:52] could we have the figures of the reserve

[14:54] funds attached to that so we know how

[14:56] much

[14:56] is in the reserves and how much is being

[14:58] drawn down from that

[15:01] so we don't have to go ourselves and

[15:03] check out

[15:04] how much is left and and how much is uh

[15:07] being used out of that that would be

[15:09] helpful

[15:10] thank you did i see

[15:13] director markman

[15:17] thank you chair um i just wanted to make

[15:19] sure on the

[15:21] appears to be just a typo under problem

[15:23] opportunity

[15:24] is this intended to say this project

[15:27] is the regional recreation referendum

[15:30] and just dropped the word and

[15:32] or is there something missing

[15:36] um so it's just that it was tied to the

[15:38] regional recreation referendum and two

[15:39] were

[15:40] tied together so sorry about that i was

[15:42] that i thanked george martin for noting

[15:44] the typo

[15:44] uh earlier the other day the two

[15:47] projects they just go hand in hand and

[15:49] it was a combination of

[15:51] two separate supplementals into one

[15:57] so just follow up so what should it

[15:58] actually read then

[16:04] that the project is tied to the regional

[16:06] recreation referendum

[16:10] of doing this facility use analysis okay

[16:13] thank you

[16:16] okay director salmon follow up

[16:19] yeah thank you so uh on the referendum

[16:22] itself

[16:23] so so it'll be held in 2022

[16:28] with the usual or regular elections

[16:32] um and then there'll be some public

[16:35] engagement

[16:36] to do with that in 2021

[16:40] is that am i on the right track with

[16:42] that

[16:43] are you still there

[16:48] that is my understanding i'm i'm looking

[16:50] to see if uh mr elzinga

[16:52] is online as he is the expert

[16:56] i'm not seeing his face pop up

[16:59] so oh there he is sorry to put you on

[17:02] the spot mr alzinka

[17:05] no thank you miss aldera and through the

[17:07] chair uh to the question

[17:09] uh the intent is that the facility use

[17:12] analysis would come in the fall of 2021

[17:15] of course we would be communicating to

[17:17] the board around that

[17:18] because we're certainly aware of covet

[17:21] impacts on facility use

[17:23] so that's the first step then we would

[17:25] be moving through public engagement

[17:28] early in 2022 through to

[17:31] uh referendum uh preparation for october

[17:34] of 2022 as the director is outlined

[17:36] thank you okay so follow-up

[17:40] generally uh so so it's 70 000

[17:44] roughly just to add this referendum

[17:48] question

[17:48] to the regular

[17:52] municipal elections

[18:12] so that includes the public engagement

[18:14] that would uh lead up to the reference

[18:16] so the engagement and the referendum

[18:18] cost would be 70 000

[18:21] as you noted right in addition to the

[18:25] 49 000 2021 engagement costs

[18:30] it looks like

[18:36] i think you're getting an odd there too

[18:38] yes i was just looking to see if mr

[18:42] alzinga was back online his

[18:44] screen is a little frozen on my on my

[18:46] screen and he as i say he is the expert

[18:49] but i believe that the committee and the

[18:50] board received a report previously with

[18:53] respect to this

[18:54] item that discussed the fact that we

[18:56] would do

[18:57] uh various consultation processes over a

[18:59] two year period

[19:00] and this would be the costs and so at

[19:03] that meeting

[19:04] the direction was given to staff to

[19:05] bring forward this supplemental request

[19:07] so this is just finalizing that

[19:09] direction yeah okay thank you

[19:12] i'm just wondering maybe for our future

[19:15] it's hard sometimes to remember the

[19:17] original discussion wanted to

[19:19] there could be a link with from the this

[19:22] sort of

[19:23] budget summary page to the original

[19:25] reports or something like that so we can

[19:28] refresh that might be helpful for the

[19:30] future

[19:31] i don't know if that's a lot of work to

[19:32] do or what

[19:35] thank you for that director salmon i

[19:37] think i saw director smith

[19:43] thank you through the chair to staff

[19:45] will

[19:46] the consultant for use analysis uh

[19:50] also include the um

[19:53] 2011 uh data

[19:56] that was collected and then the report

[19:59] from

[20:01] 2017 that was

[20:03] also data collected will that be brought

[20:06] into this

[20:07] uh analysis thank you

[20:12] thank you for the question is mr alzinga

[20:16] still with us

[20:24] i don't see him popping up

[20:27] anyone else like to take this

[20:33] perhaps upon his return he he will uh

[20:37] answer that for you director smith if

[20:38] that's appropriate

[20:40] i think he's logged out and back in so

[20:41] we may have to ask the question again

[20:43] yeah so if he does return we'll go back

[20:46] to your question

[20:47] director smith if time permits there he

[20:51] is

[20:52] did you happen to hear the question uh

[20:54] mr el-zinka

[20:55] i did if you can hear me in my apologies

[20:57] to the committee for the connection

[20:58] issues so

[20:59] uh through to director smith yes the

[21:02] intent

[21:02] is that the two facility use analysis

[21:05] would be combined

[21:07] in the recommendation that goes forward

[21:08] a referendum in october so we would be

[21:10] using the 2011 facility use analysis

[21:13] as well as or sorry the the most recent

[21:15] facility use analysis

[21:17] as well as the one that's proposed for

[21:18] uh for 2021.

[21:21] follow-up director smith

[21:24] is there some reason that you wouldn't

[21:26] be using the analysis from

[21:28] 2011. the

[21:31] uh 2011 facility use analysis has some

[21:34] concerns because two-tiered admission

[21:36] fees for the couch and aquatic center

[21:37] were in play

[21:38] at that time and that could be

[21:42] potentially impacting upon those numbers

[21:47] we could certainly bring that forward

[21:48] again to the board for consideration

[21:52] with an axe stating that the two tier

[21:54] was in place at that time maybe

[21:56] maybe something to consider

[22:00] exactly yeah i'll come back oh sorry

[22:03] the two tier was only for the aquatic

[22:06] center

[22:07] thank you i know i can see you aaron

[22:10] thanks i have director marsh and then

[22:13] director still

[22:15] yes thank you very much mr chair thank

[22:17] you to mr elzinga

[22:19] um i imagine your department will be

[22:22] crafting the

[22:23] wording of the referendum so i'm i'm

[22:26] hoping that

[22:28] it wouldn't be complicated by explaining

[22:31] the two-tier before

[22:32] and because i think for referendums it's

[22:36] um most important that it's short and

[22:39] sweet

[22:40] clear but short and sweet so what's your

[22:43] thoughts about that

[22:46] through the chair to director marsh i

[22:49] would certainly be leaning on the

[22:50] expertise of the legislative services

[22:52] division

[22:53] finance division and others

[22:55] communications as well

[22:57] as we move forward not only with the

[22:58] crafting of the referendum question but

[23:01] public engagement that leads up to it

[23:04] okay thank you thank you very much i

[23:07] have director stone then director

[23:09] sebring

[23:10] i just wanted to remind that this isn't

[23:12] the time to be discussing these things

[23:14] other than the budget impacts once we

[23:16] get into the actual practicalities of

[23:18] the usage analysis and stuff

[23:20] when we're actually discussing the items

[23:22] and because if we get into this on every

[23:24] budget item it's going to be an

[23:25] extremely long meeting

[23:28] thank you for that director stone uh

[23:31] procedurally we'll try to stick to the

[23:33] budget portion

[23:34] uh direct receiver and taking into

[23:37] account what director stone said i'm

[23:39] going to be very brief

[23:40] for somebody to say that this only

[23:42] affects the aquatic center

[23:44] from our perspective at north carolina

[23:46] that's the biggest

[23:47] unit and if we start including those

[23:50] 2011

[23:51] numbers we have a problem at the market

[23:54] tonight i'm just

[23:55] saying that so but this is not the time

[23:57] or the place we'll have the discussion

[23:59] later thank you

[24:00] and we will bring that forward in a

[24:03] future meeting for that discussion

[24:05] i was remiss in not uh welcoming

[24:07] alternative director justice so i'll do

[24:09] that now

[24:10] uh welcome alternate director justice my

[24:12] apologies

[24:14] are we finished on number one then

[24:18] call the question all those in favor

[24:22] opposed if any that motion carries and i

[24:25] acknowledge director nicholson has

[24:27] returned

[24:28] we will come back to r1 when we're

[24:30] finished a couple of points here

[24:32] on r5 we have delayed r1

[24:38] so i believe number four was pulled as

[24:40] well

[24:43] and who pulled that one

[24:46] please remind me director smith

[24:54] i i'm just looking for a little more

[24:56] detail

[24:57] from staff on this i

[25:01] i feel that it it's a good

[25:04] um look

[25:07] looking at a regional act of

[25:10] transportation was part of our trial

[25:12] our strategic planning and it's good to

[25:15] see that this is moving forward

[25:18] i just am wondering if with all our

[25:21] um with a lot of the master plans for

[25:25] parks if some of that information is

[25:28] already

[25:29] in the master plans for a b

[25:32] c d and e for

[25:35] that and so i was just wondering how

[25:39] those are going to mix in with this

[25:42] in the requirements for this consultant

[25:47] director stone

[25:51] i was just getting on the speakers list

[25:53] i just remind again this is a budget

[25:55] discussion so i have a budget question

[25:57] when my

[25:57] my time comes thank you okay i'll leave

[26:00] you on the list i'll go to mr parker

[26:05] thank you mr chair through the committee

[26:07] uh certainly with some

[26:09] within our community parks master plans

[26:11] and i understand with some of our

[26:12] members valley plans as well

[26:15] there are references and higher level

[26:19] aspirations with respect to active

[26:21] transportation

[26:22] the intention of undertaking an act

[26:24] transmission plan for the region

[26:26] uh would be to delve into it in greater

[26:28] detail to

[26:29] affirm uh opportunities for active

[26:32] transportation

[26:33] within our road networks

[26:35] interconnectivity and get it to a level

[26:37] where

[26:38] we are ideally at a position that has

[26:41] other levels of government and other

[26:43] programs come along which could provide

[26:45] funding

[26:46] uh that we've got a level of detail and

[26:49] public support

[26:50] to be able to go after those those funds

[26:53] and actually integrate

[26:54] uh the plan into establishing

[26:57] the network so the master plans do make

[27:01] note but they were at a very high level

[27:03] this will be really delving into a

[27:04] better analysis of

[27:06] functionality within our network of

[27:08] where active transportation

[27:10] could be established

[27:14] okay director stone

[27:17] i'm just following up on the meeting

[27:19] that we had had with the province there

[27:20] was discussion

[27:22] about some funding for active

[27:24] transportation and i know there's

[27:26] you know some contemplated

[27:27] infrastructure funding but is there not

[27:29] still some grant funding available for

[27:31] the actual planning work

[27:35] mr chair yes through the provincial

[27:38] active transportation

[27:39] program they do annually allocate out

[27:42] funds both for

[27:44] projects for construction as well as

[27:48] sort of feasibility analysis design the

[27:51] current round of funding has been

[27:52] allocated out

[27:53] so as you'll note in the

[27:56] the supplemental we see this as being a

[27:59] two-year initiative so we certainly

[28:00] want to look at the next round ideally

[28:03] coming up for 2021

[28:05] to be able to tap into that to help

[28:06] supplement the

[28:08] funding that otherwise we put towards

[28:10] this work so

[28:11] absolutely any chance we can get

[28:13] additional funds elsewhere

[28:15] to offset the cost of doing a

[28:17] transportation plan for active

[28:19] active transportation we definitely want

[28:21] to go after that but at this point in

[28:22] time

[28:23] there's no funds currently available

[28:25] that we're aware of

[28:29] follow up directly stone yeah i uh yeah

[28:32] i can follow up offline we can always

[28:34] amend it but i'm i'm reading the

[28:36] there's open applications it looks like

[28:38] on the page i'm looking at right now but

[28:40] we can follow up after

[28:43] okay thank you very much have director

[28:44] marsh then director salmon

[28:48] thank you mr chair i just wanted to

[28:51] appreciate uh

[28:53] excuse me in the staff report um

[28:57] under recommendations that they pointed

[28:59] out that the first

[29:00] five uh

[29:03] of these eight resolutions were

[29:06] really important they were ranked as

[29:09] number one importance and

[29:12] i think it's really helpful when we're

[29:13] looking at that in a year that

[29:16] that many people are feeling

[29:20] should be an austerity budget year i

[29:22] think it's important to

[29:24] to pay attention to that so i really

[29:26] appreciate that you spelled that out

[29:28] very clearly thank you

[29:31] thank you director marsh director salmon

[29:32] you're next

[29:35] yeah thank you yeah i'm just a little

[29:37] skeptical

[29:38] on the value that you know these these

[29:41] plans

[29:41] uh tend to end up on the shelf uh

[29:45] uh with many others so i'm just thinking

[29:47] in this year

[29:49] uh when we're where constraints are more

[29:52] than usual if

[29:54] i would prefer to let this one wait so

[29:57] we do have

[29:59] the local plans as lynn said and um

[30:02] yeah i actually just can't see myself

[30:05] supporting this one

[30:08] fair enough any further speakers

[30:13] i'm going to call the question all those

[30:15] in favor

[30:18] those opposed i see director

[30:21] sebring opposed director salmon opposed

[30:24] director smith

[30:25] and director wilson opposed

[30:28] that motion does carry thank you

[30:33] and i believe number six would be the

[30:35] next one that was pulled

[30:42] and that was the regional parks trail

[30:45] master plan i believe

[30:48] who pulled that one

[30:51] director wilson would you like to uh

[30:53] start us off

[30:56] thank you mr chair um

[30:59] mr chair i agree that uh we need a

[31:02] review of the acquisition program

[31:04] there's no two ways about that because

[31:06] i've been looking very very carefully

[31:07] into what's uh what's been going on in

[31:09] there since uh 2008

[31:11] what i have a problem with and as a

[31:14] director stone has pointed out this is a

[31:16] question of

[31:16] budgetary stuff and one hundred thousand

[31:19] dollars for consultants

[31:23] seems to be an awful lot now i'm going

[31:25] back to when

[31:26] i was a so-called consultant and i know

[31:29] what i

[31:29] charged and the number of days that's

[31:31] involved here

[31:33] is excessive to say the least it works

[31:36] out to at least

[31:39] a thousand a hundred days

[31:42] and if you work that out it's gonna be

[31:44] something like about four or five

[31:46] months of eight hour five day week so

[31:50] that's a pretty in intensive thing and i

[31:52] i cannot support

[31:54] spending 100 000 on

[31:57] something which really is this could

[32:00] easily be done

[32:01] i think in-house uh with

[32:04] um maybe even a subcommittee um but i

[32:07] can't i can't support spending a hundred

[32:09] thousand dollars on this kind of thing

[32:12] thank you very much i have director

[32:15] director marsh did i miss anyone

[32:17] director morrison yes i am

[32:21] also against spending a hundred thousand

[32:23] dollars on

[32:25] another uh study

[32:28] uh we are spending a lot of money on

[32:32] on these consultations and uh uh

[32:35] i do believe uh we have a master plan

[32:38] if we think we should adjust it we can

[32:40] do that in-house i don't think

[32:41] there's a need to to hire somebody for a

[32:44] hundred thousand dollars to tell us

[32:46] well maybe it would be better if we did

[32:47] this now uh

[32:49] um i am totally against that thank you

[32:53] thank you director marsh then director

[32:55] morrison

[32:57] yes thank you mr chair um as the

[33:00] um i don't know the part of the report

[33:03] that

[33:04] addresses this item specifically

[33:07] um says uh under the problem opportunity

[33:12] that um as we're

[33:16] you know envisioning securing in

[33:17] perpetuity a variety of outdoor

[33:20] recreational opportunities and talking

[33:23] about livability etc

[33:25] but it goes on to to speak about

[33:28] our 2020 22 22 strategic

[33:32] plan and also

[33:35] that we want to consider the protection

[33:38] of

[33:39] sensitive ecosystems and significant

[33:42] environmental features and

[33:45] um opportunities for

[33:50] all kinds of other things um i'm

[33:52] assuming and maybe uh mr farquhar if

[33:55] you're still there you could tell me

[33:57] i'm assuming the consultant wouldn't be

[33:59] sitting at a desk they would be going

[34:01] out and looking

[34:02] at the regional parks and and checking

[34:05] out um

[34:07] some of the sensitive ecosystems am i

[34:09] right

[34:12] mr chair through to director marsh

[34:14] correct this would be

[34:15] a full-scale review

[34:19] uh and update of our regional parks

[34:20] trails master plan that currently is in

[34:22] place

[34:23] understanding that the through the board

[34:25] strategic plan that there's a bit of a

[34:27] shift interest in looking at

[34:30] expansion or a change to the priorities

[34:34] under the program so similar to when the

[34:36] plan was done back in 2006-2007

[34:40] through consultants the consultants led

[34:43] the process from start to finish

[34:45] including doing

[34:47] assessments including engaging with the

[34:49] public community groups interest groups

[34:51] preparing the overall plan of all the

[34:54] level of public engagement

[34:56] and also would be looking at in this

[34:58] case

[34:59] the interests other opportunities to

[35:02] support the program

[35:04] through non-tax dollars by way of

[35:06] donations or other means that the

[35:09] the board has indicated an interest in

[35:11] looking into so this would also be

[35:12] delving into that as well

[35:14] so the ability for staff the current

[35:16] your current staff resources within the

[35:18] parks and trails division

[35:19] i would not be able to undertake uh an

[35:22] initiative of this scale

[35:24] uh based on the requirements uh that

[35:25] would be laid out in doing

[35:28] right and so i just like to you know i

[35:31] acknowledge what um

[35:33] director wilson said um

[35:37] i wasn't i guess considered a consultant

[35:40] i was a facilitator

[35:41] and that's been almost 10 years and i

[35:44] was paid a thousand dollars a day

[35:46] so i imagine if i was to go back to that

[35:49] um it would be a little bit more than

[35:51] that

[35:52] 10 years later and so you know i just

[35:56] have every confidence that this has been

[35:58] carefully looked at because the board

[35:59] has made it really really clear

[36:02] that they wanted to have

[36:05] this zero percent increase and

[36:09] i have from the very first day

[36:12] i've sat at this table which is probably

[36:15] eight years ago

[36:17] heard that staff are at capacity so how

[36:19] we could

[36:20] find as wasn't quite how

[36:23] uh mr farquhar worded it but

[36:27] i just don't see that we have the staff

[36:29] that could take

[36:30] four to five months to do this so

[36:33] um i do not believe this is for a

[36:37] um plan that's going to sit on a shelf

[36:40] this is for an um

[36:44] active plan to um

[36:47] tie together all of our parks and you

[36:49] know i don't think any of us

[36:51] can who've spent any time outdoors

[36:54] during this

[36:54] uh current pandemic

[36:58] can deny that parks have never

[37:01] i don't think been used as much as they

[37:03] are now

[37:04] and it's my belief that once people get

[37:07] the bug in their blood

[37:09] even when the pandemic's done they're

[37:11] going to still be out there

[37:13] and uh that makes for savings

[37:16] in in tax dollars albeit from other

[37:19] levels of government but

[37:21] as a few people are fond of saying

[37:23] there's only there's only one taxpayer

[37:26] so i i do support this i'm really

[37:28] grateful

[37:29] for the work staffs put into it and

[37:32] um i will be voting in favor thank you

[37:36] director marsh i have director morrison

[37:38] steve spring then

[37:39] thank you mr chair uh

[37:43] so i'd like to maybe ask two things uh

[37:47] first one being process i don't believe

[37:51] this item has been moved and though we

[37:53] voted on the other two i

[37:55] didn't hear them being moved or seconded

[37:57] either i

[37:58] would love to be wrong but i think we're

[38:01] supposed to move and second each item

[38:02] before we uh address them

[38:05] so uh if that could be correct that i

[38:07] i'd be more than willing to move this

[38:08] item if

[38:10] if that would be the uh proper

[38:12] procedural thing to do

[38:14] uh and if there's a problem if you're

[38:16] gonna

[38:23] thank you mr chair so um you know i'm

[38:26] i'm i struggle in that we've had

[38:29] a a lot of discussion about the uh

[38:33] regional parkland acquisition fund um i

[38:36] attended a number of the meetings in 07

[38:38] and 08 when

[38:39] they were originally held to establish

[38:42] the plan and pass the

[38:43] referendum numbers it was a monumental

[38:47] effort as i'm sure mr farquhar and other

[38:49] other people that participated

[38:51] in it would agree and

[38:54] there has been significant discussion

[38:56] around this table

[38:58] about the funding of that particular

[39:00] function

[39:01] and i believe that it was this board

[39:04] that said that

[39:05] that needed a redo and a relook so

[39:08] i'm i'm struggling with the notion that

[39:10] we

[39:11] sent staff away to uh to

[39:14] put together something that would give

[39:16] us a an idea what it would cost to do

[39:19] the redo

[39:20] and they go away and do it and then they

[39:22] come back and and we say

[39:24] well hang on maybe this isn't something

[39:27] that we want to do

[39:29] i'm really interested in a review

[39:32] of the regional parkland acquisition

[39:34] button because it was a different scope

[39:37] that was established then the list of

[39:40] targeted properties

[39:41] were really more of a recreational

[39:44] nature than they were of

[39:45] a environmental and uh environmental

[39:49] asset

[39:49] perspective so you know i would support

[39:53] this but i certainly understand

[39:55] the rationale of maybe this isn't the

[39:57] year

[39:58] to proceed and i think referring it to

[40:01] the

[40:02] 2022 budget would be more than

[40:04] appropriate but i won't make that motion

[40:06] thank you mr chair thank you director

[40:08] morrison

[40:09] uh hopefully we did move in second the

[40:11] previous two

[40:12] i i'm i'm not sure if we did or not

[40:15] we'll look back at the video later

[40:17] i have director sebring director

[40:19] director nicholson

[40:20] and director salmon thank you mr chair

[40:24] um a hundred thousand dollars is a lot

[40:27] of money for a consultant

[40:28] uh let me start there and i i don't

[40:30] disagree with the points made by the

[40:32] directors uh kuhn and wilson

[40:36] equally i'm interested in the scope of

[40:40] this review because

[40:42] what are we reviewing in terms of the

[40:44] parkland acquisition

[40:45] fund you know i have long made the case

[40:48] and some of you have heard me make this

[40:50] case going back several years

[40:52] that this function that we have is

[40:55] creating you know acquiring parkland

[40:57] over here

[40:58] when we do that we create a bunch of

[41:00] cost drivers over here

[41:02] in terms of the maintenance and the um

[41:05] the work involved

[41:07] in in maintaining and and

[41:10] operating the parks that we acquire with

[41:12] the parkland acquisition fund

[41:14] uh stoney hill is the best example i

[41:16] mean you know that thing has been so

[41:18] popular that now

[41:19] you know i don't know where that is and

[41:20] i'm not necessarily looking for that

[41:22] mate but

[41:23] you know last year was talking about oh

[41:24] my god now we got to do a a

[41:26] sustainability piece for stony hill

[41:28] because people are off the trails and

[41:29] we're doing environmental damage so the

[41:34] scope of this

[41:35] study that we're that we're being asked

[41:37] to approve here

[41:39] would that include the notion

[41:42] of saying um you know the part-time

[41:45] acquisition fund

[41:46] should be about more than just acquiring

[41:49] parkland it should also look at the

[41:50] ramifications of doing that

[41:53] in terms of some of the cost drivers

[41:54] over on the other side and and i don't

[41:56] know whether we need

[41:58] um i'm not even sure whether we can do

[42:00] it whether we whether we could do

[42:02] a direction to staff to say this fund is

[42:05] not just to be used for acquisition but

[42:07] you know 70 for acquisition and 30 for

[42:10] the resulting costs i i don't know how

[42:12] that works because

[42:13] this fund was approved in a referendum

[42:15] would we have to go back to referendum

[42:17] to change

[42:18] the terms of this function i i don't

[42:20] know that but

[42:21] that's the kind of information that i'd

[42:22] like to see come out of this

[42:24] review is that part of the scope of what

[42:27] we're

[42:27] asking the consultant to look at for 100

[42:30] 000

[42:31] and if not why not

[42:35] mr chair that would certainly be

[42:36] inclusive as part of uh the overall

[42:38] review update of the plan and direction

[42:41] yes that would be incredible awesome to

[42:42] hear thank you then i'll be supporting

[42:44] this

[42:50] allocating some funds to maintenance

[42:52] that would probably require

[42:55] going back to referendum as it was quite

[42:57] specific on the purchase

[42:59] within that original implication so

[43:03] that's what i'd like that's what i'd

[43:05] like to see coming out of the report

[43:07] and i see and i see our cao is sitting

[43:11] at the dock of the bay

[43:15] right did you did you have something to

[43:17] respond to by

[43:18] my little ramp thank you

[43:21] oh thank you mr chair yeah actually i'm

[43:23] sitting that is the dock of one of our

[43:24] regional parks

[43:25] butte island uh behind me um i i think

[43:28] i'll let the conversation unfold but i

[43:31] have a suggestion that might help us

[43:32] help

[43:33] work through this because i think what

[43:34] we're getting caught up in is

[43:36] the project and uh you really need to

[43:38] outline the scope before you start

[43:39] applying a cost to it and so

[43:41] i'll let the committee continue to have

[43:43] their conversation but there may be

[43:45] another option that you might want to

[43:46] consider moving forward so i'll turn it

[43:47] back to the chair thank you mr chair

[43:49] thank you very much i'll keep looking

[43:51] for that doc when i've exhausted my

[43:53] speakers list

[43:54] i have director nicholson salmon

[43:58] wilson and marsh

[44:02] director yes i would like to get

[44:04] back to what

[44:05] uh director mark said earlier and i

[44:08] agree with that and that is

[44:10] this should be an austerity budget

[44:14] to spend a hundred thousand dollars on a

[44:16] study does not go with an austerity

[44:19] budget

[44:19] i'm sorry this uh i could see a

[44:22] possibility of uh

[44:24] director morrison indicated maybe to

[44:26] push it over into next year

[44:28] i would support that but i'm not willing

[44:30] to support that for this year

[44:32] thank you thank you and just a reminder

[44:36] directors um we are being recorded

[44:40] so your body language can be seen

[44:43] we don't always agree but let's agree to

[44:46] disagree

[44:47] uh director nicholson

[44:52] thank you um i think this is a

[44:56] a very important topic and i

[44:59] am i think

[45:03] some people have thought that staff

[45:05] would be able to do this work i don't

[45:07] think they have the either either the

[45:09] capacity or

[45:10] probably the skill set when you're

[45:12] talking about um

[45:13] the equal benefits of protecting

[45:16] parkland

[45:17] and so i think that we do need to do a

[45:20] review with qualified people that can

[45:22] provide that kind of advice

[45:24] i also think that it's we have a

[45:27] community asset

[45:29] out there many people in the community

[45:31] are very engaged in parks

[45:32] and actually have a lot of the the

[45:35] qualifications that you might be looking

[45:36] for

[45:37] and i um based on our conversation about

[45:40] what the scope of this is

[45:42] i think that we would benefit from

[45:46] setting up a committee to help us

[45:49] develop

[45:50] some terms of reference for this review

[45:53] and to

[45:54] start to have a community conversation

[45:56] because it's important to bring the

[45:57] community along on this

[45:58] topic because they are very um

[46:01] interested in it

[46:02] um and

[46:06] i think that this would probably be

[46:08] better if it was phased over two years

[46:10] so to try and

[46:11] do at less cost this year to try and set

[46:15] up a

[46:16] commission or a committee or whatever

[46:18] the right term is for this

[46:20] um a standing committee i guess to do

[46:23] that

[46:23] to do to help with the work and to get

[46:26] the

[46:26] framework figured out and then next year

[46:29] go ahead with the review

[46:31] i suspect that there's quite a bit of

[46:33] technical information that we don't have

[46:36] about our parks and their i know that we

[46:39] haven't done an ecological inventory for

[46:42] example

[46:43] and i think that kind of work is going

[46:45] to be important as we move forward

[46:48] but ultimately from my perspective

[46:51] the most important thing right now is to

[46:53] be continuing to put money in the bank

[46:55] so when properties

[46:58] opportunities to purchase properties

[47:00] arise that we know have significant

[47:03] ecological value and we need to be able

[47:06] to position to

[47:07] purchase those so and i think there's

[47:09] enough um

[47:10] community knowledge about which those

[47:12] properties are right now because we

[47:13] don't really have

[47:14] um a large number of parks

[47:18] um as it is so i i guess i would be

[47:21] interested in sort of a phased approach

[47:23] with community involvement

[47:26] thank you very much director nicholson i

[47:28] have director salmon

[47:29] wilson marsh and smith director salmon

[47:32] please

[47:33] yeah thank you um i i prefer to wait

[47:37] till 20.2 for a couple of reasons

[47:40] um you know it's it's almost like i'd

[47:43] rather put 100 000 into uh

[47:45] actual acquisition if we were going to

[47:47] do that rather than

[47:48] a study i think sometimes we fall into

[47:51] this sort of spill and a study that just

[47:54] having it done will make it happen

[47:56] whereas of course it's

[47:57] this all depends on the availability of

[48:00] the actual

[48:01] land and whether we can make a deal so

[48:04] i think in this year um given that our

[48:08] existing master plan

[48:09] actually supposed to run to the end of

[48:11] 2022 would be uh

[48:13] i'd much prefer to uh defer starting

[48:16] that and maybe get a bit more clarity on

[48:18] the scope of what we're trying to do in

[48:19] the meantime

[48:21] thank you thank you moving on to

[48:24] director wilson

[48:27] thank you mr chair yeah um i'm glad this

[48:30] has brought forward

[48:31] this discussion because it is an

[48:33] important one i

[48:34] think one of the things i've got to pick

[48:36] up on is that um

[48:38] i'm not picking on you director marsh

[48:39] but you said that this board has made it

[48:41] clear

[48:42] that they want a 0 mandate increase here

[48:46] uh this is not going to be uh helping

[48:48] that in any other way

[48:50] um and i'd like to know whether some of

[48:53] them

[48:53] some of the phrases which are used in in

[48:55] this report here

[48:57] um for uh environmental uh protection

[49:01] conservation etc

[49:03] under the lga i've looked and i can't

[49:06] see

[49:06] anywhere in the lga where there's a

[49:08] mandate for local government

[49:10] such as ours to protect ecosystems or

[49:13] something like that that is a provincial

[49:16] um area and i don't see anywhere else

[49:19] that

[49:20] uh that it's going in one of the most

[49:22] important parts that

[49:24] has to be looked at is it's all very

[49:26] well and and and i'm glad that

[49:28] um director sebring brought this up was

[49:30] the cost

[49:31] of maintaining the land once we've got

[49:34] it

[49:34] every report that has come forward has

[49:36] said basically

[49:37] uh we're going to buy this lender we'd

[49:39] like to buy this land it's going to cost

[49:40] a million dollars

[49:41] nowhere in those reports does it say but

[49:45] it's gonna cost us two hundred thousand

[49:46] a year to maintain develop or improve

[49:48] this

[49:49] and this is something that i would like

[49:51] to see in any report that comes forward

[49:53] regarding acquisition there should be a

[49:56] section in there

[49:57] which includes a detailed analysis

[50:01] of the possible costs involved in taking

[50:03] that on

[50:04] you buy a car it's going to cost you you

[50:06] buy a house it's going to cost you as it

[50:08] comes on

[50:09] we don't see those detailed analyses of

[50:12] where

[50:13] and how much it's going to cost as we go

[50:14] forward and that's something i would

[50:16] like to see in

[50:17] involved one of the things that was

[50:19] touched on was that

[50:21] all this was agreed by referendum and

[50:23] any changes would have to go

[50:25] back to a referendum and in this

[50:27] particular case um

[50:28] i'm going to say thank you very much to

[50:30] the finance department because

[50:32] we've had um i've had some discussions

[50:34] with them during the week

[50:36] they're very very good at explaining uh

[50:40] the intricacies of what goes on as far

[50:42] as financing is concerned and i have a

[50:44] much better picture

[50:45] yes this would have any changes to the

[50:47] acquisition would have to go back to a

[50:49] referendum

[50:50] um certainly not the much maligned aap

[50:54] that's for sure so we can't change the

[50:58] acquisition without going to

[51:00] a a very costly thing but what we can do

[51:04] is make sure that any acquisition report

[51:06] that comes forward

[51:08] contains a section which says if we do

[51:11] this is what it will cost you for the

[51:14] next five years

[51:15] thank you very much thank you directoris

[51:19] wilson i have director marsh director

[51:21] smith

[51:22] and director staples yes

[51:25] thank you very much mr chair i believe

[51:28] what i

[51:28] said was um i acknowledge that

[51:33] a lot of people on the board wanted this

[51:35] to be honest

[51:36] an austerity austerity budget

[51:39] so um director kuhn if you thought i was

[51:41] saying that i

[51:42] agreed with that that's not what i was

[51:44] saying

[51:46] the part of the report

[51:49] i don't know what you call it the the um

[51:56] the second part the the part comes up

[51:58] that comes out of the main page

[52:00] uh speaks about the need for

[52:05] protection and preservation of

[52:11] sensitive ecosystems and someone sent me

[52:14] an article this morning

[52:16] written in the guardian that i i haven't

[52:18] had a chance to read

[52:19] but basically um it's

[52:23] this will give you an idea top

[52:26] scientists

[52:27] warn of ghastly future of mass

[52:30] extinction and climate disruption

[52:34] and and i think that we've you know for

[52:38] well as long as i've been a counselor or

[52:40] and or a director but even longer

[52:43] we've known that um we were on a course

[52:47] but should we continue it um

[52:51] and i'm talking about the collective

[52:53] worldwide we

[52:54] because i think uh 10 years ago the cbrd

[52:58] was doing some really great things in

[52:59] terms of

[53:00] purchasing land but it seems to me given

[53:04] um the

[53:07] [Music]

[53:09] acceleration of the changes we've been

[53:12] warned we're coming for quite some time

[53:15] you know for instance um you know the

[53:18] entire

[53:19] west coast of the united states burning

[53:21] most of the summer

[53:23] and the number of floods i think

[53:26] i think someone told me and i didn't

[53:28] check it out i believed them

[53:30] that and it was before last night's

[53:32] storm

[53:33] that in a period of about eight days we

[53:36] had

[53:36] seven storms or something like that in

[53:38] this general region

[53:41] so mr chair point of order are we

[53:43] talking about budget here are we talking

[53:45] about the

[53:46] environment

[53:49] thank you director wilson continue

[53:51] director marsh

[53:52] thank you mr chair so um

[53:57] i so uh i feel that um

[54:02] you know if people want to put it off

[54:05] you know that's could be the way they go

[54:07] i would prefer to get started

[54:10] especially if as has been said it's

[54:12] going to take four to five months

[54:16] and you know we are actually

[54:19] so fortunate here to have

[54:23] so much land and um

[54:27] much of it is fee simple land and

[54:31] so i think that given we've run down the

[54:34] reserves pretty low in this function

[54:38] and um we agreed as part of our

[54:41] strategic plan we wanted to have a

[54:43] review of it

[54:45] um you know i would hate to miss uh

[54:48] the chance to to do um

[54:53] purchases that would help us do our part

[54:57] and and adapt because i think the

[54:59] mitigation

[55:00] of climate change those days are over

[55:03] now

[55:04] we are facing it and it's going to

[55:06] continue to get worse

[55:08] and the decisions we make today will

[55:11] affect our great grandchildren

[55:13] on how bad it's going to be including

[55:16] potentially leading to extinction so

[55:19] i i support doing this um

[55:22] and i as you know would support the full

[55:25] acquisition which

[55:27] i understand um is not likely to happen

[55:31] under this

[55:32] this board but i i'll end with saying

[55:34] that

[55:35] a statistical survey done

[55:38] by the center for policy alternatives in

[55:41] canada

[55:43] um the results of that were that 71

[55:48] of canadians want every level of

[55:51] government

[55:52] that includes local to do everything

[55:54] they can

[55:56] no matter what it costs basically

[56:00] to preserve uh our ecosystems

[56:03] and to do our part in adapting

[56:06] to climate change um

[56:09] so you can read that in um

[56:14] a book called a good war

[56:17] and it's all right i hate to cut you off

[56:20] i do have an extensive speaker's list

[56:24] i'm done thank you very much thank you

[56:26] for your tolerance i know that we do

[56:28] uh that you do support the function and

[56:31] we appreciate your

[56:33] your input director smith staples

[56:36] yanni dinardo and salmon

[56:40] uh thank you i also um

[56:43] have concerns with the development costs

[56:47] involved in purchasing uh land

[56:51] that this function definitely doesn't

[56:54] take that into consideration it's very

[56:57] important i mean we're sitting here

[56:58] looking at

[57:00] rcao's background picture which is butte

[57:03] island

[57:04] and a wharf and that comes with

[57:07] conditional

[57:09] assessments and wondering what the

[57:12] replacement cost of that is

[57:14] so i think that we need to also take

[57:16] into consideration

[57:17] development costs whether trails will be

[57:19] put into the property

[57:21] along with the purchase price i

[57:24] also have concerns that the province of

[57:27] bc

[57:28] should be looking at tracts of land and

[57:31] conservancy organizations

[57:35] that purchase land so i'm a little

[57:38] concerned about us

[57:39] heading off into a direction that is not

[57:42] something we're mandated

[57:44] as a local government i

[57:47] believe that we need to pursue this

[57:50] looking into it

[57:52] but a hundred thousand out of operating

[57:54] reserves at this time

[57:56] is a hundred thousand that's not

[57:58] available for

[57:59] the purchase of land i will not be

[58:02] supporting

[58:03] this uh project at this time

[58:07] thank you thank you very much director

[58:09] smith i have director staples next

[58:13] yeah thank you i think that we always

[58:15] have to remember the cost of

[58:16] when we don't do things as well um

[58:19] this this every time this topic comes up

[58:22] um at our board anything related to

[58:24] parks we sort of

[58:26] seem to meander away from the actual

[58:28] motion that's on the floor

[58:29] and what we're actually discussing

[58:31] discussing into the

[58:32] you know whether or not we value the

[58:34] importance of parks

[58:36] and since everyone's been going there

[58:38] i'm gonna step

[58:39] in at this time and go there as well

[58:42] because the public has been

[58:46] over and over again in in surveys that

[58:48] we've done at the city and surveys that

[58:50] the regional district

[58:51] has done in the people who have come to

[58:53] the budget meetings

[58:54] one of the things that people talk about

[58:56] particularly

[58:58] more now than ever during covid is the

[59:01] importance

[59:02] of parks the importance of outdoor space

[59:04] that's accessible to everyone

[59:06] the importance of protecting those

[59:08] spaces

[59:09] and as i've heard a million times

[59:13] at every conference i've ever gone to

[59:16] from local politicians from people

[59:19] you know we we can say that we need the

[59:22] province to do this

[59:23] but this is the community that we live

[59:25] in and we need to decide what's

[59:27] important to us and our community has

[59:29] asked us over and over again to value

[59:32] parks to value outdoor spaces to value

[59:35] our ecosystem and to protect it

[59:38] and so i'm not saying that this study is

[59:42] is i liked director nicholson's idea of

[59:45] phasing something in i think that that

[59:47] would be something

[59:48] at this time that would um be

[59:51] appropriate

[59:52] but i think the ongoing conversation

[59:55] about

[59:55] not supporting um and protecting

[59:59] space in our region is is not a

[1:00:02] direction that we should go as a board

[1:00:06] thank you thank you director staples

[1:00:09] perhaps we have to lean

[1:00:11] lenient of a chair to allow that sort of

[1:00:13] discussion to

[1:00:14] continue no in all fairness i think all

[1:00:18] points of view are

[1:00:19] our relatives but if we can stick to the

[1:00:21] budget portion that we're

[1:00:22] discussing today i'd appreciate that

[1:00:25] director yanni dinardo

[1:00:27] thank you mr chair um i would just like

[1:00:30] to say that

[1:00:31] uh the scope of this i am in favor

[1:00:34] of the parkland acquisition but it we

[1:00:38] did say that we wanted a review

[1:00:40] um i'm just concerned about the scope of

[1:00:43] this review i'm all in favor of it

[1:00:46] and um i i kind of between

[1:00:49] uh director sebring and director

[1:00:51] nicholson the maintenance the long-term

[1:00:53] costs

[1:00:54] like they're all great but what will it

[1:00:56] cost us

[1:00:57] later it should be in the scope like it

[1:00:59] needs to be

[1:01:00] the maintenance the whole package is

[1:01:02] this another staff member is this you

[1:01:04] know i believe that we need to look at

[1:01:06] this

[1:01:07] in likely even a phased

[1:01:10] um in a phased project too

[1:01:13] so part of it this year and and part of

[1:01:16] it next year and not really rushing it

[1:01:18] and just having

[1:01:20] you know a consultant paper we need to

[1:01:22] really look at this in

[1:01:24] and the long-term costs as well

[1:01:27] i think our cio would like to chime in

[1:01:30] on this yeah thank you mr chair so i've

[1:01:31] been listening to the conversation and

[1:01:33] directors are all making good points and

[1:01:35] maybe just to help you along

[1:01:38] and to compile a bunch of the comments

[1:01:39] that were made we can afford to

[1:01:42] to spend some time developing the scope

[1:01:45] of this project before approving the

[1:01:46] budget and i get the sense that there's

[1:01:48] differing differing expectations around

[1:01:50] the table with

[1:01:50] with respect to what this uh review

[1:01:52] might entail so

[1:01:54] uh for your consideration you may want

[1:01:57] to consider having

[1:01:58] having a select committee of the of the

[1:02:01] uh

[1:02:01] of the regional services committee to to

[1:02:03] come together

[1:02:04] develop the scope so that staff can then

[1:02:06] go out and determine how best to deliver

[1:02:08] that whether we would do it in a hybrid

[1:02:10] model between

[1:02:11] uh staff and consultants or consultant

[1:02:13] but i think we've kind of put the cart

[1:02:14] before the horse and we're getting

[1:02:16] bogged down on that so

[1:02:17] i would present that to the to the

[1:02:19] committee for consideration that we

[1:02:21] defer

[1:02:22] it's coming from operating reserves so

[1:02:23] you can amend the budget at a later date

[1:02:25] to accommodate the cost of doing this

[1:02:27] project moving forward

[1:02:29] great thank you for that uh insight i

[1:02:31] have two more speakers director salmon

[1:02:34] and director wilson do you still wish to

[1:02:36] speak

[1:02:37] directly salmon yeah briefly that that

[1:02:39] helps thank you mr crutherson

[1:02:41] well i just had a specific just starting

[1:02:43] back to what director wilson said

[1:02:45] um if we did this management plan and it

[1:02:48] came out with a new

[1:02:49] new direction new criteria for

[1:02:51] acquisition

[1:02:53] does that mean we would need to get new

[1:02:54] public approval on another referendum

[1:03:02] chair i think i could respond to that no

[1:03:04] i don't believe so i mean the the

[1:03:05] services for

[1:03:06] acquisition of parks how you go about

[1:03:08] are there priorities or the criteria

[1:03:10] that you use i don't believe that we

[1:03:11] would require an amendment

[1:03:13] um to the to the service to do that okay

[1:03:16] thank you

[1:03:18] but i think one of the questions if i

[1:03:19] may was if maintenance were to be added

[1:03:21] into that

[1:03:22] would that require um any

[1:03:25] any input reference wise yes through the

[1:03:28] chair the the uh

[1:03:30] the service is specific to acquisition

[1:03:32] uh maintenance is

[1:03:33] is a separate issue and i think those

[1:03:35] issues of incorporating maintenance

[1:03:37] costs into acquisition

[1:03:38] um one's acquisition one's operating but

[1:03:40] that can be included in your scope of

[1:03:42] your review as well to to

[1:03:44] to discuss great just so that we're

[1:03:46] clear i have director wilson and i'm

[1:03:48] director still

[1:03:51] thank you mr chair um there's some good

[1:03:54] uh

[1:03:55] there's some good discussion coming

[1:03:56] forward here and i'd like to just um

[1:03:59] reinforce the fact that i am not a catch

[1:04:02] parkland acquisition

[1:04:03] at all i'm just looking at the way it's

[1:04:06] been

[1:04:07] administered over the last few years and

[1:04:10] that's

[1:04:10] basically what i'm looking at is the

[1:04:12] cost the budgetary cost

[1:04:14] of this and that's why i brought up the

[1:04:17] ongoing maintenance the improvements and

[1:04:18] everything else that goes with it

[1:04:20] um i i have to say about the um

[1:04:23] budgetary meetings that we're public

[1:04:25] meetings that we had

[1:04:26] um and i think director staples just

[1:04:28] said um that you know there were some

[1:04:31] um attendees public attendees who came

[1:04:34] there weren't that many there was only

[1:04:35] one uh that on certainly

[1:04:37] and i attended every all four of them

[1:04:40] and any

[1:04:41] opposition or any um any

[1:04:44] anything that's coming forward in in

[1:04:46] support of the parkland acquisition seem

[1:04:48] to be coming

[1:04:49] from one from one direction only and and

[1:04:52] i'm concerned about that but

[1:04:54] however let me let me reinforce i am not

[1:04:57] opposed to acquisition

[1:04:59] i am in favor of acquisition what i am

[1:05:02] not in favor of

[1:05:03] is the way it's being spent and that's

[1:05:05] why i want to be so careful

[1:05:07] on how much it's actually going to cost

[1:05:10] us to buy

[1:05:11] that and then maintain that as well

[1:05:15] thank you director wilson director stone

[1:05:17] to close

[1:05:18] yeah just to to summarize um there is in

[1:05:21] the in the

[1:05:22] materials when we establish the

[1:05:23] referendum it does say specifically

[1:05:26] uh 11 specific sites in of interest

[1:05:28] having significant

[1:05:29] regional outdoor recreation and natural

[1:05:32] values for acquisition so

[1:05:34] it was understood from my recollection

[1:05:36] and from the materials that i've

[1:05:37] collected that

[1:05:38] that there is some contemplation of

[1:05:41] natural values or ecological values if

[1:05:43] you will

[1:05:44] um that being said i'm fully supportive

[1:05:46] of deferring the actual spend

[1:05:47] till either later this year as mr

[1:05:49] crothers just said

[1:05:50] we can amend the budget if we decide we

[1:05:52] need some funding as we get through this

[1:05:54] year

[1:05:55] but deferring that item this year and

[1:05:57] doing like he also suggested a select

[1:05:59] committee

[1:06:00] where we can work with staff and members

[1:06:02] of the board to determine

[1:06:04] the scope of the review and just a lot

[1:06:06] final comment is

[1:06:07] parkland acquisition we have a function

[1:06:09] for parkland maintenance and operations

[1:06:11] we already have a function for

[1:06:13] it's just that when the reports come it

[1:06:16] should

[1:06:17] tell us what those costs will be not

[1:06:19] that we have to change the function and

[1:06:20] draw it down to do the maintenance

[1:06:22] but that we know that the other function

[1:06:24] is going to bump up as a result of

[1:06:26] a parkland acquisition so um i would say

[1:06:30] that i think we're

[1:06:30] ready to call the question thank you we

[1:06:32] are and the uh

[1:06:34] it has been moved in second i see

[1:06:36] director nicholson's hand come up though

[1:06:40] thanks i just would like i i i'm i think

[1:06:42] we're heading in the right direction on

[1:06:44] the select committee but i would like to

[1:06:46] make sure that

[1:06:47] we do that this get it going sooner

[1:06:49] rather than later

[1:06:51] so that we actually get some work

[1:06:53] substantive work done this year so we

[1:06:54] are in a better position to

[1:06:56] do some work uh you know to get move on

[1:06:59] things next year

[1:07:01] um so i guess my question through just

[1:07:03] through to you just to staff is

[1:07:05] do you have the capacity to get this off

[1:07:07] the ground right away

[1:07:12] i think that would be up to us to

[1:07:15] implement that select committee through

[1:07:17] chair stone

[1:07:19] and to get that process going as soon as

[1:07:21] possible if i'm not mistaken

[1:07:23] uh if you could correct me if i'm wrong

[1:07:26] chairstone

[1:07:29] right as far as i can tell i think that

[1:07:31] there's going to be some requiring of

[1:07:32] staff resourcing but we can talk about

[1:07:34] that with staff

[1:07:35] if we do need other resources as mr

[1:07:37] crothers already explained

[1:07:39] we can make that budget amendment if we

[1:07:41] want to allocate a small amount of

[1:07:42] funding out of those operational

[1:07:44] reserves this year

[1:07:45] um if we need some assistance in in

[1:07:47] helping develop that scope but i don't

[1:07:48] see that as a necessity at this moment

[1:07:52] as soon as possible implementing that

[1:07:54] subcommittee uh yes mr crothers

[1:07:57] so given that this is a corporate

[1:07:59] services

[1:08:00] meeting to discuss budget i would

[1:08:02] suggest that you refer this matter

[1:08:04] you can deal with this resolution in

[1:08:05] front of you back to regional services

[1:08:08] at which time you can have a

[1:08:10] conversation about the establishment of

[1:08:11] a select committee and and how to go

[1:08:14] about that and what support staff can

[1:08:15] provide to

[1:08:16] uh to get that uh committee established

[1:08:19] thank you very much one more time for

[1:08:22] hands

[1:08:24] so we do have a motion on the floor

[1:08:28] do we need a referral motion director

[1:08:30] morrison

[1:08:32] thank you mr chair

[1:08:36] so perhaps staff can correct me if i'm

[1:08:39] wrong

[1:08:40] um the motion that we're putting

[1:08:44] that's before us is a placeholder

[1:08:47] to possibly do the work with

[1:08:50] funds that will come out of operating

[1:08:52] reserve

[1:08:54] so if we approve this resolution

[1:09:00] all of those things can take place

[1:09:03] and we don't have to spend a penny of

[1:09:05] money

[1:09:07] or a penny until the scope in terms of

[1:09:10] reference or whatever

[1:09:12] select committee is decided upon

[1:09:15] if this resolution moves forward and is

[1:09:19] adopted as

[1:09:20] is is is that a correct assessment

[1:09:23] of the outcome of passing this

[1:09:25] resolution

[1:09:27] is there a staff person could answer

[1:09:28] that

[1:09:31] i will refer to ms saldara to answer

[1:09:34] that

[1:09:39] my understanding based on the discussion

[1:09:41] was that we would defer

[1:09:44] allocating funds towards this project

[1:09:47] until we had

[1:09:48] uh set up the select committee and

[1:09:50] established a clear return of reference

[1:09:52] so you could still do it but it would

[1:09:53] require a budget amendment

[1:09:57] okay that clarifies i think i saw

[1:09:59] director marsh please

[1:10:02] yes i'm sorry mr chair but i got bumped

[1:10:05] off for about five minutes so

[1:10:07] i'd really like to just hear the motion

[1:10:09] before you call the vote thank you

[1:10:16] miss lego would you like to read that

[1:10:18] sure uh the motion was that the

[1:10:20] supplemental

[1:10:21] that would be recommended to the board

[1:10:22] that the supplemental request for

[1:10:23] function 285 regional parkland

[1:10:25] acquisition master plan review be

[1:10:28] approved

[1:10:31] okay are we ready for the question

[1:10:35] all those in favor

[1:10:39] those opposed see director

[1:10:43] sebring wilson smith

[1:10:46] yanni dinardo salmon and

[1:10:51] anyone else

[1:10:54] can you leave your hands up again those

[1:10:56] opposed

[1:11:00] sebring smith danny dinardo

[1:11:03] salmon wilson

[1:11:08] miss lego that's six opposed

[1:11:12] so the motion carries can i just

[1:11:15] very much absolutely absolutely director

[1:11:18] stone

[1:11:19] uh i just want to say this has no effect

[1:11:20] on requisition and again

[1:11:22] as staff said six of one half dozen to

[1:11:24] the other right so

[1:11:26] the motion's approved it's in the budget

[1:11:28] but we've already kind of

[1:11:29] informally agreed to to strike a select

[1:11:31] committee to discuss the scope

[1:11:33] and as we get through that we can report

[1:11:35] back to the board with direction

[1:11:37] so it really has no force and effect on

[1:11:40] this year's budget but

[1:11:41] if we need it it's there thank you right

[1:11:43] no thanks for that clarification

[1:11:46] i don't know about you but i think i

[1:11:47] need to stretch

[1:11:49] uh if you're willing for a 10-minute

[1:11:52] recess

[1:11:53] um well we can get a drink or a coffee

[1:11:55] or whatever we need

[1:11:58] we'll do a 10 minute recess

[1:12:11] how much time do i have

[1:12:32] camera's live welcome back directors

[1:12:36] i hope we've all coffeed up and ready to

[1:12:39] go again

[1:12:40] um with your indulgence we will return

[1:12:43] to r1

[1:12:44] uh director nicholson had asked that

[1:12:46] that be delayed until her

[1:12:49] attendance and if we could miss lego

[1:12:53] thank you mr chair item r1 is a report

[1:12:55] from the finance division on the parks

[1:12:57] and trails 2021 draft budgets referred

[1:13:00] from december

[1:13:00] 2nd special electoral area services

[1:13:02] committee meetings

[1:13:04] and this is for the community parks

[1:13:05] budgets for area e g and

[1:13:07] h and i believe each of the directors

[1:13:09] have something that they'd like to

[1:13:11] propose for those budgets so perhaps we

[1:13:13] could address them separately

[1:13:16] okay who would wish to start let's start

[1:13:18] with director nicholson

[1:13:20] as she had asked for this to be delayed

[1:13:22] tricker nicholson please

[1:13:24] thank you um i'd like to recommend to

[1:13:27] the board that draft

[1:13:29] uh 2021 budget for function 235

[1:13:32] area e community parks be amended by

[1:13:35] number one

[1:13:36] increasing the minor capital by ten

[1:13:38] thousand dollars

[1:13:39] increasing invasive species management

[1:13:41] by five thousand dollars

[1:13:43] and increasing requisition by fifteen

[1:13:45] thousand dollars

[1:13:48] of a seconder that has been moved and

[1:13:50] seconded if you wish to

[1:13:51] speak to it so uh i met with my parks

[1:13:55] commission

[1:13:56] last thursday night and the the

[1:13:59] recommendation that i'm making is based

[1:14:01] on their concerns

[1:14:03] about a couple of projects that need to

[1:14:06] be done

[1:14:07] shouldn't be delayed out at glenora

[1:14:09] trail head park and

[1:14:11] keeping on top of invasive species

[1:14:13] management in our parks which is

[1:14:15] becoming an increasing problem

[1:14:17] great thank you very much any further

[1:14:20] discussion on that

[1:14:21] director wilson thank you mr chair just

[1:14:24] a quick question for

[1:14:26] director nicholson i i have no problem

[1:14:28] with supporting this at all

[1:14:30] which i will do uh just a question does

[1:14:33] it come out of your budget it doesn't

[1:14:35] impact the overall budget just as a

[1:14:38] point of clarification

[1:14:42] miss soldera that would come from the uh

[1:14:45] local

[1:14:45] community parks function would it not

[1:14:48] absolutely so the requisition

[1:14:50] uh percentage increase will actually

[1:14:52] reflect the 15

[1:14:54] 000 increase as as a the total number

[1:14:57] but only those participants in the

[1:14:58] service would pay for the service so yes

[1:15:00] those would come

[1:15:01] all from the residence of electoral aid

[1:15:05] and we all know director wilson that you

[1:15:07] do

[1:15:08] support parks thank you very much

[1:15:12] so can i call the question on this one

[1:15:15] all those in favor opposed if any

[1:15:20] uh moving on to uh number two

[1:15:30] was there an amendment on this one as

[1:15:32] well

[1:15:36] i believe director smith has something

[1:15:39] i missed your hand director smith i

[1:15:41] apologize i see you there now

[1:15:43] please thank you

[1:15:48] uh uh that it be recommended to the

[1:15:51] board that the draft

[1:15:53] 2021 function 237

[1:15:57] area g community parks be amended by

[1:16:00] increasing minor capital by 15 000

[1:16:04] increasing major capital land

[1:16:06] improvement by

[1:16:07] 21 000 increasing transfer

[1:16:11] from capital reserves by 21 000

[1:16:14] increased transfers from operating

[1:16:16] reserves by 15

[1:16:18] 000. and i'll speak to that if i have a

[1:16:22] seconder

[1:16:25] been moved in second please carry on

[1:16:28] thank you very much

[1:16:29] i we have had some

[1:16:32] deterioration in our trails over time

[1:16:34] and i really appreciate the

[1:16:36] assistance by mr farquhar and his

[1:16:39] department for giving me the

[1:16:41] costs that would assist with doing

[1:16:45] a type 2 trail on the southeast forest

[1:16:48] loop in centennial park one of the

[1:16:50] advantages of upgrading that trail

[1:16:54] will be a active transportation

[1:16:57] connection to the from sort of the

[1:17:01] subdivision over to the

[1:17:02] newly opened uh solitaire uh

[1:17:06] canco supermarket so that's an excellent

[1:17:09] upgrade that we will be looking forward

[1:17:11] to and

[1:17:13] with the mud that has uh transpired in

[1:17:17] princess die park over the years it's

[1:17:20] now reached

[1:17:22] an area of approximately five to six

[1:17:25] inches so

[1:17:25] this will definitely work to improve

[1:17:29] those areas

[1:17:30] and i appreciate that i'm looking

[1:17:32] forward to also

[1:17:34] the parks commission did approve

[1:17:38] the centennial park lower uh

[1:17:41] ball court cracks repairs and ceiling

[1:17:45] under minor capital the tennis courts

[1:17:48] under um minor capital to be the

[1:17:52] surfaces

[1:17:53] for cracks and mitigation work and

[1:17:56] the five thousand dollars for the

[1:17:58] removal of the tennis practice court as

[1:18:01] a risk assessment has been done on the

[1:18:04] condition

[1:18:04] of those the court there at this time

[1:18:08] i'd like to thank the cvrd staff in

[1:18:11] parks and trails for assisting

[1:18:13] to bring forward these projects at this

[1:18:15] time thank you

[1:18:18] thank you very much any further

[1:18:20] discussion

[1:18:22] i'll call the question all those in

[1:18:24] favor opposed if any

[1:18:28] i'm going to try to turn to you director

[1:18:29] martin and see if your connectivity

[1:18:31] issues are

[1:18:34] still ongoing you had something in your

[1:18:36] area as well

[1:18:40] yes um if you can hear me uh item r1

[1:18:44] yeah i'd like to have that um recommend

[1:18:46] that to be deferred

[1:18:49] to the generate special corporation

[1:18:52] meeting and

[1:18:53] the other day to

[1:18:57] advisory commission

[1:19:01] so i think we got the gist of that you

[1:19:03] would like to defer

[1:19:04] that to the january 25th special

[1:19:08] corporate services meeting do i need a

[1:19:11] seconder on that one

[1:19:14] moved in seconded uh mr chair i

[1:19:17] i just want to point out in case that no

[1:19:19] one else knows that

[1:19:20] director martin had put this in the chat

[1:19:24] so we can remember that that's something

[1:19:27] to look for if someone is having

[1:19:29] connectivity or speaking problems that

[1:19:31] we can always put

[1:19:36] put it in the chat thank you yeah i did

[1:19:38] note that

[1:19:39] but i wanted to see if his connectivity

[1:19:41] had

[1:19:42] resolved itself it doesn't seem to but i

[1:19:44] think we've got the gist of it director

[1:19:47] uh martman moved second ready for the

[1:19:49] question

[1:19:51] oh is that a question director morrison

[1:19:55] okay all in favor sorry opposed if any

[1:20:00] thank you very much i believe that

[1:20:02] concludes our one

[1:20:06] thank you mr chair on to item r6 which

[1:20:08] is a verbal report from the finance

[1:20:10] division on the budget public engagement

[1:20:12] and that is for information

[1:20:16] okay miss older would you like to uh

[1:20:20] speak to this thank you very much

[1:20:23] uh as most of you are aware we held four

[1:20:26] virtual

[1:20:27] public meetings on the budget and i

[1:20:30] really appreciate everyone's attendance

[1:20:32] at those uh it was nice to see so many

[1:20:34] people from the

[1:20:35] community from the board showing up and

[1:20:38] uh

[1:20:39] as i believe was alluded to previously

[1:20:41] um we

[1:20:42] did not have great turnout but we did

[1:20:44] have people show up at every single

[1:20:46] one so that was better at least than

[1:20:47] when we did them in person where we had

[1:20:49] two with no participants

[1:20:51] um so we did have a total of 16 people

[1:20:55] participate in those virtual budget

[1:20:57] public meetings we had some good

[1:20:59] question

[1:21:00] and discussion at our very first meeting

[1:21:01] which um

[1:21:03] made me all excited and then limited uh

[1:21:05] discussion at the other meetings but

[1:21:07] as i say that uh was there the

[1:21:10] meetings were all recorded and my

[1:21:12] understanding from communications is

[1:21:14] that they will be posted to our website

[1:21:16] for people to access whenever they

[1:21:18] feel like it in the future and i will be

[1:21:22] following up with a written report

[1:21:24] to the committee for the at the january

[1:21:27] 25th

[1:21:28] meeting which will include feedback from

[1:21:30] our play speak

[1:21:31] um item and people are welcome to go on

[1:21:34] and look at that feedback now

[1:21:35] we have had 59 surveys filled out and 47

[1:21:38] discussion

[1:21:39] threads and so i will include a formal

[1:21:43] written report with

[1:21:44] any feedback from the public meetings as

[1:21:47] well as from the play speak

[1:21:48] at the january 25th meeting but just

[1:21:50] wanted to let you know

[1:21:52] what happened at the virtual budget

[1:21:53] public meetings which ended last night

[1:21:56] great i'd like to just thank you

[1:21:59] and staff who were involved in that

[1:22:02] process i know it's a difficult time to

[1:22:04] try to get

[1:22:05] information out to the public and we

[1:22:07] tried our best virtually

[1:22:09] i do have a speakers list i have

[1:22:10] director stone

[1:22:12] wilson and yanni dinardo

[1:22:15] i just just a little bit of feedback

[1:22:17] from our community that

[1:22:18] it was scheduled on the same night and

[1:22:20] time as our

[1:22:22] committee of the whole meeting so it was

[1:22:24] difficult for ladies with folks to

[1:22:26] participate in both and i know there's

[1:22:27] some interest with our council and they

[1:22:29] were unable to participate

[1:22:31] due to performing their council duties

[1:22:33] or to at least attend

[1:22:34] so can you just when those are posted it

[1:22:37] would be appreciated

[1:22:38] if we could get uh an email just to let

[1:22:41] us know when they're up and then we can

[1:22:43] share those with our community members

[1:22:45] thank you

[1:22:47] great thank you very much director

[1:22:49] wilson

[1:22:50] uh thank you mr chair just a word of

[1:22:52] congratulations to

[1:22:54] miss aldera very uh very concise uh

[1:22:57] presentation uh very professional

[1:22:59] and very clear so thank you very much

[1:23:01] for that uh talitha great job

[1:23:04] would that mean that your area had the

[1:23:06] most participation director wilson

[1:23:08] we did actually yeah yeah

[1:23:11] thank you i have director janie dinardo

[1:23:13] then director marsh

[1:23:14] thank you i'd just like to echo my

[1:23:16] fellow directors and um

[1:23:18] thank also um mr schumacher that did a

[1:23:21] great job as a host

[1:23:23] and um also miss saldera and also the

[1:23:27] people that did actually get on and

[1:23:29] speak were quite impressed

[1:23:31] and they were actually really surprised

[1:23:34] that each and every one of them got to

[1:23:36] you know be spoken to

[1:23:38] and you know it worked out that way

[1:23:40] really well because we had small groups

[1:23:42] we actually spoke to each person and

[1:23:44] asked with if they had questions and

[1:23:48] i think that was very successful so i'd

[1:23:50] like to thank um

[1:23:51] the staff and of course everyone who

[1:23:53] attended as well

[1:23:55] thank you very much director marsh and

[1:23:57] then director smith

[1:24:00] yes thank you mr chair just further to

[1:24:03] what chair stone said um

[1:24:05] there was also some conflict with um

[1:24:08] some north couch and things and i'm just

[1:24:10] wondering if the

[1:24:12] corporate services legislative staff can

[1:24:15] kind of

[1:24:16] communicate with everyone at these busy

[1:24:19] times so that

[1:24:20] um those of us who are on the board

[1:24:23] can come to the board things um i don't

[1:24:27] know if that's too much to ask but it's

[1:24:28] just a suggestion thank you

[1:24:32] i think a number of us did have

[1:24:33] conflicts with our

[1:24:35] council and municipal obligations as

[1:24:37] well

[1:24:38] i couldn't attend the lady smith one for

[1:24:41] lake couch and council obligations but

[1:24:44] i tried to attend as many as i could and

[1:24:48] thankfully got to attend a few of them

[1:24:50] director smith you're next

[1:24:55] thank you i'd like to thank the staff

[1:24:58] for arranging having

[1:24:59] four different meetings at four

[1:25:02] different times that gave an opportunity

[1:25:04] for people if they were unable to attend

[1:25:07] the one that was for their area they

[1:25:09] also had an opportunity to still attend

[1:25:12] a meeting it was definitely

[1:25:15] the presentations are really delightful

[1:25:17] and i really would like to thank the

[1:25:19] staff

[1:25:20] and mr schumacher for hosting it

[1:25:23] it's a little hard to look at some of

[1:25:25] the numbers of the attendees and

[1:25:27] hoping the number goes up but i think

[1:25:30] that having them posted to the website

[1:25:32] will definitely

[1:25:33] improve the opportunity for our

[1:25:36] communities to actually

[1:25:38] look at them and and take their time

[1:25:40] going through those presentations as a

[1:25:42] video

[1:25:43] thank you very much for all the work

[1:25:45] that an effort that went into all those

[1:25:47] four meetings

[1:25:49] thank you very much uh director staples

[1:25:53] yeah just to echo that thanks to safa

[1:25:55] and the meetings were facilitated

[1:25:57] um extremely well and and i think that

[1:26:00] of of the sort of things that we're

[1:26:02] learning through the types of format

[1:26:03] that we're stuck with right now

[1:26:05] i feel that um exploring that type of

[1:26:08] format for delivery of budget meetings

[1:26:11] would be

[1:26:11] something that we should consider in the

[1:26:13] future because i think that

[1:26:16] while there weren't a lot of attendees i

[1:26:18] think it is

[1:26:19] at least you know rather than having

[1:26:21] them all in person to have some online i

[1:26:23] think would be something that we should

[1:26:24] um

[1:26:25] just carry forward i think that that

[1:26:27] helps some people

[1:26:28] um with their ability to attend

[1:26:31] thank you great thank you very much

[1:26:35] anyone further again miss soldera thanks

[1:26:38] to you

[1:26:39] and every other staff member that was

[1:26:42] involved in those presentations

[1:26:44] and i encourage people to uh once the

[1:26:46] videos are up go up and see what the

[1:26:48] impacts

[1:26:49] of these budget discussions will be on

[1:26:51] your particular area

[1:26:54] moving on miss lego thank you mr chair i

[1:26:59] guess we're on to question period

[1:27:01] and checking my email i see no

[1:27:03] submissions

[1:27:04] so we would be looking for a motion to

[1:27:06] close the meeting to the public

[1:27:08] in accordance with the community charter

[1:27:10] section 91c

[1:27:12] okay moved and seconded all those in

[1:27:15] favor

[1:27:17] opposed if any that carries

[1:27:21] now we will leave this meeting and go to

[1:27:25] the separate closed i believe

[1:27:27] that's correct we'll end this meeting

[1:27:28] and start a separate meeting

Special Corporate Services Committee- Wednesday, January 13, 2021

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