[0:01] hello

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[4:47] thank you

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[5:03] do whatever we can

[5:36] i need

[5:50] so

[6:02] yes

[6:09] um

[6:45] thank you

[6:46] i'd like to call city development plans

[6:48] to order we have 1600 agenda

[6:51] the first i'm on the agenda is approved

[6:53] to extend youth agreement with marathon

[6:55] craigslist for carbon communities

[6:57] redevelopment india

[7:13] agreement

[7:26] street has a use agreement with the city

[7:28] of schenectady that was executed on

[7:30] december 19th of 2019 for the parcels

[7:33] associated with the farmer community

[7:35] redevelopment project in the hamilton

[7:37] hill neighborhood

[7:39] this current use agreement expires

[7:41] december 19 of 2021 um to accommodate

[7:45] the delays resulting from proven 19 and

[7:47] the associated impacts um we're

[7:49] requesting an extension of the use

[7:51] agreement

[7:52] with the new expiration date of december

[7:54] 30th 2022

[7:57] so we're looking for approval from the

[7:59] city council to amend this use agreement

[8:01] and i know we have representation from

[8:03] maryland creek street who can um i don't

[8:06] know ray if you just want to come up and

[8:08] speak a little bit about you know the

[8:10] progress and where the project is

[8:12] absolutely

[8:15] from blue light development

[8:20] it's like a little bit of weird energy

[8:22] like we haven't seen each other in

[8:23] person for a

[8:25] see everyone uh

[8:27] trayvon's stuck in traffic uh he's

[8:29] supposed to speak to the capital project

[8:31] but um we've been experiencing some uh

[8:34] extreme delays

[8:35] with uh hvac and funding doing hogan 19

[8:39] and bidding but aside from that we've

[8:42] been hosting the school of

[8:44] community cleanups

[8:46] in preparation for the renovations of

[8:48] the center

[8:50] which we have uh board members coming

[8:52] with the individuals as well

[8:54] but we've uh gutted the interior we've

[8:57] got rid of both gym floors we've started

[8:59] paint scraping

[9:01] we've put a mural on the north side of

[9:03] the building

[9:05] we've done a school of landscaping

[9:07] reclaimed our playground space

[9:09] we also have

[9:11] electricity on the panels are finally

[9:13] not on that's about nine months

[9:16] but we do have electricity on the

[9:17] building and we're just waiting for

[9:20] hvac ready and the plumbing

[9:23] so

[9:24] we are moving and making extended

[9:25] product

[9:27] let's look for the business so

[9:29] i know there's been a delay with the

[9:31] pandemic and supply chain issues do you

[9:34] have any idea what that's going to cost

[9:36] you i mean as far as additional

[9:38] fundraising and whatnot

[9:40] people out there know that you can still

[9:41] use money absolutely yeah

[9:44] um again trademark is his you know

[9:47] speciality

[9:48] it's not okay it's fine um

[9:51] the the bidding numbers uh are all

[9:53] different but it's anywhere from 50 to

[9:57] 100k

[9:58] and that's a rough estimate this

[10:00] nothing's concrete that's a rough

[10:01] estimate

[10:03] and part of the obstacles that we face

[10:05] are

[10:06] we do have funds but we can't use the

[10:08] funds because we have to use other funds

[10:10] which is something that has been

[10:12] incredibly um

[10:14] confusing right because i know we have

[10:16] um you know ties with metroplex but then

[10:20] there was

[10:21] cdt grant that we were supposed to have

[10:23] funds for and use those but when we

[10:25] applied for another brand we got turned

[10:27] down because they said we have to use

[10:28] the 150k from the

[10:31] uh previous grant that we

[10:33] can't use so there's been additional

[10:36] obstacles with that

[10:38] um and it's not like we've been sitting

[10:40] and not doing anything you know we've

[10:42] been reaching out and we're supposed to

[10:44] get support from todisco and sinabria

[10:47] and once said that if the other two

[10:50] uh you know matched us then they'll

[10:52] match and then the other two didn't

[10:53] agree so it's been a whirlwind bright

[10:56] family foundation we had several

[10:58] meetings with them to get support and

[11:00] they turned us down it's like

[11:02] someone's only waiting for someone else

[11:03] to support us in order to support us you

[11:05] know so

[11:07] and if i'm being transparent the most

[11:09] support that we have has been from

[11:12] uh

[11:13] people who have

[11:15] are like the most like

[11:17] unresourceful or

[11:19] have lack of resources which is

[11:21] faith-based community and hamilton hill

[11:23] community so

[11:25] the beautiful thing about our cleanups

[11:26] is different people always show up and

[11:29] those are the people who have been

[11:30] consistent

[11:31] um

[11:32] so yeah it's been it's been tough

[11:34] and i think it's important for us to

[11:35] have the

[11:36] conversation about

[11:38] how

[11:39] we can get more resources

[11:44] so let me just

[11:46] sorry i was just going to say also um

[11:48] just because you know working on this

[11:49] product for a bit now

[11:52] so the cbg funding is 150 000 it is

[11:55] reimbursement basis so

[11:58] the 300 000 total was the number to

[12:01] really do the hvac plumbing and

[12:03] electrical work the electrical work has

[12:05] been completed but it is they can't

[12:08] really do everything at once because

[12:10] again it's reimbursement basis so they

[12:12] really just do one piece at a time

[12:14] um so you know like ray mentioned they

[12:16] finished the electrical portion of that

[12:18] and now they're moving to try to get you

[12:20] know hvac contractors in to just you

[12:23] know to give a price um but that's been

[12:25] really difficult in the current context

[12:27] um so i think that's that's one cases of

[12:30] the project right kristen just to be

[12:32] clear haven't you spent any of the 150

[12:34] from the cdbg at all not not have yet to

[12:36] do

[12:42] that was the first step because they

[12:44] needed power to be able to then you know

[12:46] do the rest of the stuff so the

[12:47] challenging part is really having the

[12:49] money to do is because it's reimbursed buffalo brand

[12:54] right right okay yeah so all right

[12:57] so you're asking for this extension and

[13:00] as was asked so

[13:02] i know we're waiting for um trayvon i'm

[13:03] not sure

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[13:11] in order to

[13:13] move forward but not money that's tied

[13:15] up in any way you need to feel

[13:16] straightforward have that money is that

[13:17] what you're testing yeah absolutely

[13:19] that's been one of our biggest hurdles

[13:20] is if we have money that's sitting but

[13:22] we can't use it how can we move forward

[13:24] with anything you know and you know if

[13:27] we i know it's been a long time but our

[13:29] feasibility study uh it's 1.5 million

[13:32] dollars and that's what bells and

[13:32] whistles have the doors open um and

[13:36] the 150k and 350k it's like a raindrop

[13:39] in a bucket you know i don't need to be

[13:41] frank but i do need to be frank but it's

[13:43] just you know just it's been like a slew

[13:46] of astounding disparities on our part

[13:48] you know i know you've been through

[13:49] hurdle after girl after hurdle you know

[13:51] we continue to show up and we continue

[13:56] um

[13:58] we've continued to show up you know we

[13:59] continue to do what's being asked of us

[14:02] and you know we're just looking for more

[14:03] support and more support that makes

[14:06] sense you know what i mean and this is

[14:08] not to pull anybody or anything like

[14:09] that i just you know i think it's

[14:11] important to have honest conversations

[14:13] and

[14:14] one of the barriers you're feeling like

[14:16] this is really important

[14:18] absolutely 100 100 it's

[14:21] and i don't know there's got to be ways

[14:23] around where we can have these funds

[14:25] where they're not tied up so that we can

[14:27] use them or there's not rules against

[14:29] the funds where we have to spend some to

[14:32] get some especially since we're so early

[14:35] on in the states that they're prepping

[14:36] for renovations

[14:38] um

[14:39] you know we don't want to spend all of

[14:40] our money then we still have to get the

[14:41] hvac and plumbing that the bidding and

[14:44] you know we don't have any money for

[14:45] that stuff um

[14:47] so it's just it's just tough it's tough

[14:49] when the the funds are tied up

[14:51] so it's not possible that's what's like

[14:53] some sold questions did you say that yep

[14:56] and is it the same kind of thing but

[14:58] reversal yes um yeah i believe so but i

[15:01] know there was a tension of we had to

[15:03] spend the money that we do have in order

[15:06] to get more first one

[15:07] the first 150 yes exactly right

[15:10] which i i still don't you know

[15:13] before i speak for my board and the

[15:15] board members you know and if you can

[15:17] chime in when you want to um but

[15:21] with a project of this magnitude we all

[15:23] know it's going to cost quite a bit of

[15:24] money so i just again i don't understand

[15:28] um

[15:29] you know why we have to have to be tied

[15:31] down to

[15:32] uh funds when when we need all we need

[15:35] as many funds we can get you know so

[15:38] it's just it's been tough it's been

[15:40] tough and i know that

[15:42] when the obstacles are alleviated we

[15:44] move

[15:45] you know um

[15:47] granted coleman has slowed us down but

[15:49] like i said i think it's really

[15:50] important to note that um as a community

[15:53] we continue to show up and we continue

[15:55] to uh continue to go um george would you

[15:58] want to pass individuals around i think

[16:00] that visuals are super important just to

[16:02] see the progress that we've done

[16:05] um

[16:06] even though we've had obstacles

[16:10] we can talk about all the time without

[16:12] seeing it it doesn't it doesn't make it

[16:13] real to me

[16:14] um just to see the inside of the

[16:16] building and see all the work that's

[16:17] being done

[16:19] to prep for renovation that's one less

[16:21] thing that we'll have to worry about but

[16:22] the funds we need those you know money is

[16:26] what we need

[16:28] absolutely so i i recommend that we

[16:31] accept the extension at this time and um

[16:44] you know sometimes they'll be able to

[16:46] help out it's kind of tough for the city

[16:48] at this point

[16:55] is the challenge itself for sure for

[16:58] sure

[16:59] that would be my recommendation yeah and

[17:01] we have and i appreciate that

[17:03] recommendation so much we've reached out

[17:05] to

[17:06] like i said uh

[17:07] foundation um they turned this down if

[17:10] you ask me i think that that was a

[17:11] personal thing because you know rosa was

[17:13] working there and then uh she decided to

[17:16] take my marathon proxy full time it's

[17:18] like i said from being quite frank i

[17:20] think it's important for us to have

[17:21] these transparent conversations if we

[17:24] um

[17:25] didn't want to get ahead you know we

[17:27] want to see progress with this

[17:29] you know we met with the county

[17:31] uh and

[17:32] we've i can send you a list of email

[17:35] chains and just nothing you know what i

[17:37] mean and we thought that

[17:40] attaining ownership of the building

[17:42] would give us a leg up and

[17:45] um i don't know if for some reason uh

[17:48] we're still not being believed in even

[17:49] though we continue to show up we

[17:51] continue to do with being asked of us

[17:54] but we're just not getting the support

[17:55] that we

[17:56] anticipated like i said the most support

[17:58] we've gotten was is from the community

[18:01] and from big big communities and um

[18:04] yeah we're looking for more for more

[18:06] resources more for more help you know

[18:09] not not a handout but a hand up

[18:12] um

[18:12] you know we we it and the crazy thing is

[18:15] we're running programming we just don't

[18:17] have a house for it you know the

[18:19] community center we've got our google

[18:20] programming going we still have the

[18:22] community police basketball league going

[18:24] um

[18:25] just to give you a couple names of

[18:26] partners that have come out to help us

[18:29] ask an fbc school district multiple

[18:31] principals have come out and supported

[18:33] us

[18:34] the c center has been incredible with

[18:36] support um

[18:38] dsa acronym dsa has been incredible with

[18:41] coming out and supporting us

[18:47] has been incredible so

[18:49] i don't want you guys to think that we

[18:50] haven't been reaching out and

[18:52] uh

[18:53] searching for partners in collaboration

[18:55] but we've been doing nothing but that um

[18:57] like i said especially through the

[18:58] pandemic even with all the obstacles

[19:00] with the stopping of the attacking thing

[19:02] we still have been moving you know doing

[19:04] what we can

[19:05] just to show uh proof that we're going

[19:08] to continue to move until the doors are

[19:09] open

[19:11] because the community needs it

[19:14] i was just going to say that i know that

[19:16] um the loan fund is a potential partner

[19:18] in this and they

[19:19] had committed to a bridge loan tax

[19:22] testimony but i think that they're

[19:24] waiting to see the full kind of

[19:27] scope of work which is difficult to get

[19:29] pricing right now for certain things

[19:30] that are so far in the future is what's

[19:32] you know been communicated to us so

[19:35] i think at this at this time they're

[19:37] asking for the extension

[19:38] to just you know continue to to move

[19:41] forward and

[19:43] you know get more support so do you have

[19:46] any um

[19:47] i don't know about the board members

[19:48] here so do you like before we move

[19:50] forward to

[19:51] or any other council members questions

[19:54] you know we would actually

[19:56] tonight we would act on you know the

[19:57] extension and then we'd probably have

[19:59] larger conversations about the funding

[20:01] so yeah sorry i didn't mean to get in

[20:03] the weeds

[20:08] right about what's actually going to get

[20:09] all the project done and the resources

[20:11] that are going to be needed right

[20:13] i think it's important that we know yes

[20:14] for sure that makes sense

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[20:26] thank you

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[20:36] all right the next item on the agenda is

[20:38] the transfer of city on

[20:45] properties to the legacy

[20:50] okay so um the city and the land bank

[20:53] are partners on a lot of things mostly

[20:55] to return vacant and abandoned

[20:57] under utilized property to productive

[20:59] use so the legacy city access program is

[21:02] funded by the new york state budget

[21:04] through hcr

[21:05] to provide land banks with

[21:08] renovation uh funding for distressed one

[21:11] to three unit properties and this is to

[21:13] create home home ownership opportunities

[21:15] by partnering with local mwbe certified

[21:18] and or minority-owned developers so we

[21:21] have been working with the land bank to

[21:23] identify properties um you know given

[21:26] the the recent redevelopment in mount

[21:29] pleasant over 40 demolitions the orchard

[21:31] park expansion the wallingford park

[21:34] splash pad the new boys and girls club

[21:36] the libraries um the main street facade

[21:39] program there's been a lot of

[21:40] reinvestment in mount pleasant and we

[21:41] think that one of the that's one of the

[21:44] areas where this opportunity for

[21:46] homeownership can really help out in

[21:49] terms of just creating that

[21:50] stabilization in the neighborhood and

[21:52] dealing with some of the most difficult

[21:53] properties that are there um to really

[21:56] just try it and sort of infill and rehab

[21:58] um

[21:59] you know properties in that area so

[22:01] david holding campus here if you're in

[22:03] the land bank i don't know if you want

[22:04] to add yeah if you have any questions

[22:06] about about the program the

[22:08] landing funding that we have in past has

[22:10] been pretty discretionary we did a lot

[22:11] of uh glide home removals in partnership

[22:14] with uh kristin the team here

[22:17] this is a

[22:18] prescriptive program to uh try to create

[22:20] homeownership out of uh some of the

[22:22] player homes the land needs to have

[22:24] control of those properties so we uh

[22:26] appreciate your support uh we'll uh

[22:30] the program is set up so you can have

[22:32] three different uh

[22:34] legacy cities projects going in time

[22:36] which is five to ten uh properties so

[22:38] we'll look for a development team that

[22:40] needs the criteria they're looking for

[22:42] over in mount pleasant right here where

[22:43] we're proposing uh all the uh changes uh

[22:47] for the positive on chrome street and

[22:48] then uh hopefully uh we'll continue to

[22:51] find more opportunities for

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[22:55] so the request tonight is to for the

[22:57] city of schenectady to enter agreements

[22:59] with the land bank for the transfer of

[23:01] the 10 properties that are existed

[23:03] and this is basically for the

[23:05] legacy

[23:06] program

[23:18] uh

[23:35] for the is

[23:36] snow pollen season as we all know winter

[23:39] is going to come hopefully

[23:41] tonight but in preparation of that

[23:44] we'd like to um

[23:46] approve the rates the hourly rates for

[23:48] the equipment so that we can move

[23:50] forward and

[23:52] procure a documented wind law

[23:56] to solicit services for the following

[23:58] season

[24:02] either not

[24:16] until you approve the rates and then

[24:19] advertise when the final document is you

[24:21] know is approved by law

[24:23] we'll put that out and then

[24:25] hopefully we'll get

[24:27] you know contractors coming like we've

[24:28] done in the past years uh hopefully the

[24:30] establishment

[24:39] fuel prices

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[24:52] um

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[25:25] unless you meet your phone and see

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[25:40] oregon contract for the construction of

[25:43] the maintenance storage at the mini dell

[25:45] course

[25:46] mr wall

[25:52] so first item

[25:54] as it says in the backup materials we

[25:56] had

[25:57] three buildings two were original the

[25:58] gulf court construction one i believe

[26:00] was constructed in the 70s one of the

[26:02] original buildings

[26:04] we were forced to take down six years

[26:06] ago with our larger storage building we

[26:08] were hoping to uh close this drought and

[26:11] build a new building however we had to

[26:12] find a way that was within budget we

[26:15] started with a typical building and we

[26:17] moved uh terribly to one of the prefab

[26:20] building

[26:21] so we put out the bid for a pre-fat

[26:23] building it's uh basically this is going

[26:26] to be a factory slab with a metal bar

[26:29] night building that you see kind of out

[26:31] in the in the suburbs and we're going to

[26:33] be doing a lot of work in house once the

[26:35] shell is built so we're

[26:37] doing electrical in-house bringing it on

[26:38] our plumber's going to help out and then

[26:40] we're going to build within the shell so

[26:42] it'll take a little while but in the

[26:44] meantime it'll give us a large clean

[26:48] open area that's outside of the weather

[26:50] to keep our equipment in a lot of our

[26:51] equipment is being stored currently too

[26:53] at the oregon ave parks garage the old

[26:55] garage so this will also help keep all

[26:57] the equipment in one area on the golf

[27:00] course not across from it which is good

[27:01] so we've been trying to do this for

[27:04] what nine years i think before i got

[27:06] here

[27:06] this was a project so

[27:08] we're hoping to move forward this

[27:10] company's worked with the city in the

[27:11] past they've worked with the state and

[27:12] did our due diligence uh we've already

[27:14] had some meetings before i came to you

[27:16] with ron and aaron and we're comfortable

[27:18] bringing it forward

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[27:33] uh award come into contract for removal

[27:36] uh

[27:37] for a cdbg uh aiming presentation

[27:42] so this is a second payment program

[27:46] what we did is due to the requirements with all the different

[27:50] monies that we have now tdd in section

[27:52] three um we had quite a bit of money

[27:55] left over for coving because we didn't

[27:57] do a payment program

[27:59] so we decided to put out an independent

[28:00] navy program just focused on

[28:04] the

[28:06] football area which is handling the

[28:07] middle in this case um kind of around

[28:09] frank street where we're going to be

[28:10] doing our work

[28:12] it's a cdbg only contract so that we can

[28:14] focus on all the requirements on one

[28:16] contract we had a lot of bids that do

[28:18] five bids below

[28:21] newcastle who we've worked with in the

[28:22] past on berkshire park we've had a

[28:25] discussion with them ron's discussed

[28:27] with them already you know the

[28:28] requirements that i need we're going to

[28:30] use the off season so to speak to you

[28:33] motion

[28:37] second

[28:38] what was in favor

[28:41] okay and then on the uh

[28:49] so the amphitheater also known as music

[28:51] has

[28:52] a series of optical partitions that are

[28:54] doors that

[28:56] go like this and they rotate

[28:58] um and they're used for a full sound and

[29:00] access the stage the doors uh before we

[29:03] put the security fixing up we're

[29:04] vandalized they also have seals that are

[29:07] broken so animals birds and squirrels

[29:10] that they've seen going in and out of

[29:11] music maybe making it a hard place to

[29:13] clean so

[29:14] we put out a bit uh and that huffport

[29:17] was really the only supplier such a door

[29:20] the same people that supply

[29:22] high school gymnasiums those

[29:23] opportunities just much smaller

[29:26] so we're looking to get the doors

[29:28] ordered and then once again installing

[29:30] in time for music pavements uh next

[29:32] season so we're gonna get that facility

[29:35] you know back up it looks great though

[29:36] the facilities

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[29:48] is

[30:06] almost in favor aye thank you mr wong

[30:08] thank you

[30:09] all right the next item is refunding of

[30:11] the 2014 volunteers mr ferrari

[30:15] mr president

[30:17] council

[30:18] uh one of the things that we do at the

[30:20] finance department is review constantly

[30:22] uh opportunities that help the city to

[30:25] save money especially uh

[30:28] what we're talking about is a

[30:29] opportunity to renew and refund our 2014

[30:33] bonds of 28 nine or twenty million or

[30:36] fourteen thousand

[30:37] now uh we're looking at this opportunity

[30:39] with the rates uh

[30:41] and we with uh roosevelt lacrosse and

[30:43] our physical advisors that we have an

[30:45] opportunity to save approximately uh

[30:48] four million four point three million

[30:49] dollars over the next 16 years the

[30:51] average of of over 255 000 a year

[30:55] and uh if you looked at the uh when i

[30:57] had centuries look at angel one of

[31:00] the refunding highlights you would see

[31:03] what the total would be

[31:05] what we're asking of this is uh

[31:07] as you saw in my memos we're asking

[31:10] for an ordinance to be a little bit

[31:12] higher just in case the fluctuation

[31:15] of the market but we're pretty much set

[31:17] on that uh 4.3 million that's the best case

[31:20] scenario our worst case scenario we're

[31:22] thinking of 3.7 million dollar savings

[31:24] which

[31:25] is still a savings through the savings

[31:28] so we're jumping on this opportunity and

[31:30] i brought it in a rush only because

[31:32] it's just like it's the perfect time

[31:36] any questions

[31:38] all right

[31:39] okay

[31:40] thank you

[31:42] around

[32:03] um

[32:12] they

[32:13] wrote a letter to us saying that there

[32:15] was some

[32:16] further information needed

[32:18] that we need to pass this resolution

[32:21] including

[32:23] the last four of the council members

[32:25] social security number and registration

[32:27] numbers and

[32:28] update on record activities and results

[32:33] all right so in terms of the last four

[32:35] of the social lines things only the last

[32:37] four however

[32:39] how to have that information i mean how

[32:41] public is that information

[32:43] so the copy of the resolution that i am

[32:46] that i will need to post

[32:48] can have that redacted but the

[32:50] resolution that is sent to them need to

[32:52] have it on there

[33:04] bye

[33:10] all right see you next time on the

[33:12] agenda discussion renaming terrace

[33:14] heights from museum drive it was a

[33:16] public pairing um

[33:17] on 10 25.

[33:19] we actually only had one speaker and

[33:21] then someone that spoke about it later

[33:22] that was in favor of it so

[33:24] are there any uh questions here

[33:27] all right

[33:33] all those in favor

[33:38] okay um discussion osn broadcast city

[33:41] council committee meetings mr solomon if

[33:43] um

[33:44] almost weekly i'm sure some of you also

[33:47] get the same complaints

[33:49] about the broadcast of the

[33:52] committee and council meetings people

[33:54] either can't hear him the video is not

[33:56] running

[33:57] there's some sort of issue

[34:01] we gotta figure this out we either

[34:02] record it and play it so it works or do

[34:06] it live and make sure it works

[34:08] so

[34:11] i would like us to

[34:12] see about getting information

[34:15] from osm on

[34:17] how to fix this problem what it it costs

[34:20] what options we would have for the

[34:22] broadcast

[34:23] i think that might fall into your

[34:25] purview mr colvin

[34:27] and uh

[34:28] just as a discussion tonight bringing it

[34:30] forward

[34:31] uh in the next weeks because it

[34:33] continues to be a problem

[34:35] all the time and uh quite frankly and

[34:38] tired of hearing the complaints

[34:40] then people are like why can't we get

[34:42] this right

[34:43] and if we can't get it right then we

[34:45] need to look for a different vendor so

[34:50] i just putting it out there i'll follow

[34:53] up with the mayor in

[34:55] osm to see what the issues are

[34:57] as well as mr coleman to see what

[35:01] options we have as far as the

[35:02] broadcasting but i'm sure all of you

[35:05] have gotten similar complaints

[35:07] and

[35:09] thought we should take it up

[35:12] so um

[35:23] maybe we need to set aside some funding

[35:25] to accommodate them so this doesn't

[35:27] continue to happen

[35:34] uh get it out there see what everybody

[35:36] else's feelings are assumed

[35:40] likewise yeah every week

[35:42] absolutely

[35:50] because over time people are complaining

[35:53] they're having difficulty

[35:55] so you'll be moving forward by having

[35:56] obsessions

[36:00] to your point i mean it was just a few

[36:02] years ago

[36:04] we upgraded all the equipment that's

[36:05] supposed to fix the issue

[36:07] and uh

[36:09] obviously

[36:10] so i don't know why it was working now

[36:12] it's not but um hopefully we'll get it

[36:14] addressed all right so are you asking me

[36:16] to have this on two weeks yep

[36:18] okay

[36:21] yes

[36:23] well i just like to add that

[36:34] you can't see any of the speakers

[36:52] um

[36:57] [Music]

[37:09] okay

[37:10] all right thank you for those comments

[37:12] but yeah but the camera didn't like

[37:13] watch before the camera does move

[37:18] but even to the speakers

[37:22] you'll see a person speaking and i'll

[37:23] actually move and go right to that

[37:25] person but it's not happening

[37:27] broadcast

[37:28] oh this is just us this is a website yes

[37:31] that's why yes

[37:32] that is the right this is the tv

[37:34] it's a fixed camera yeah so that's not

[37:36] the oh that's not what people see on osm

[37:40] you're watching live

[37:42] yes

[37:43] okay all right so while mr uh mr coleman

[37:46] is going to move forward on that and

[37:47] talk to us thank you for uh creating

[37:49] your butt

[37:51] okay um

[37:52] any more discussion on that

[37:54] all right so our next item our

[37:56] discussion is the statue of liberty ms

[37:58] zalewski williams and um

[38:01] miss patrick that's going to let you go

[38:02] first because you're online

[38:05] okay

[38:06] [Music]

[38:17] gateway um our country

[38:19] and for me

[38:20] you know as a child of movements in the

[38:23] city that's just the city of immigrants

[38:25] um i just feel like it's very very

[38:28] appropriate that the statute of liberty

[38:30] returned to

[38:31] park

[38:32] and welcome all of our visitors to

[38:34] schenectady in a park that we've now

[38:37] spent so much money renovating um i

[38:40] think that

[38:42] you know i hear the argument sometimes

[38:44] that the park now is supposed to be a

[38:45] place of public contemporary art

[38:48] um but i do want to suggest that you

[38:51] know we don't want to throw up in

[38:52] history as we continue to move forward

[38:54] with progress and i think that again

[38:57] having the new liberty

[38:58] there with for example the pride

[39:02] sculpture which represents you know

[39:04] freedom for a whole nother group of

[39:06] individuals in our country that

[39:08] worked hard to earn their rights

[39:11] i just think it's a very very

[39:12] appropriate setting for statute of

[39:14] liberty and i really would like to see

[39:15] the council support the move of the

[39:18] statute back to

[39:20] um gateway park so that's that's what i

[39:22] want to say and i appreciate this

[39:29] so um i'm in agreement um you know this

[39:32] has been

[39:33] a tough time for this poor little statue

[39:36] um she needs to go back to the park and

[39:40] i know that um you know if we could get

[39:42] support here i'm in hopes that we can

[39:45] hopefully get it back over there um so

[39:47] i'm in full support of it so i'd like to

[39:50] make a motion to

[39:52] move it forward

[39:53] i could

[39:54] so um but we could move forward is

[39:56] discussing with the mayor because um my

[39:58] understanding is

[40:00] he's the final decision maker i wish he

[40:02] was still here so he had some input on

[40:04] this

[40:05] so mr colony

[40:08] we could actually move a resolution

[40:10] [Music]

[40:12] support as a council whatever the mayor

[40:14] does the mayor does

[40:16] um

[40:17] so

[40:18] we could do that um

[40:21] i think it's

[40:22] you know the whole history of

[40:24] the movement of the statue

[40:26] and all that i don't want against that

[40:29] because it's long and complicated and

[40:31] quite translated

[40:34] but um

[40:35] i would be in favor of moving it back at

[40:37] this point and maybe we put a statue

[40:40] at that corner

[40:42] with something to do with the airy canal

[40:44] which would be more fitting here oh

[40:46] where littering is now yeah i mean this

[40:48] doesn't turn out anything but well it

[40:51] could be nothing but you know it's

[40:52] something we could move forward as a

[40:54] council and whatever the mayor chooses

[40:56] to do we choose to do it i think what we

[40:58] need to do is go back to where we

[41:00] originally um when it was originally

[41:02] moved

[41:03] my understanding was sitting there that

[41:04] it would be moved back so we need to go

[41:06] back and look at that legislation if

[41:07] we're as moving this resolution over

[41:10] and and bring that back say this was the

[41:12] original plan and we'd like to be able

[41:14] to um to do to the resolution that the

[41:18] original plan is what we'll stick to

[41:21] that's exactly what i was going to ask

[41:22] for is that it was a resolution when

[41:24] this was a move was the yes the

[41:26] discussion was to move it back to the

[41:28] over some location so we just go back to

[41:30] there and we can do resolution and

[41:32] support again i'm totally improving to

[41:34] that as long as i'm in this council i

[41:36] think the majority of us in this country

[41:39] always was constantly supported he

[41:41] relocated back to its original place and

[41:44] i'm in full support of that

[41:47] so um so we're asking for a motion to

[41:49] draft the resolution to support the

[41:51] original uh

[41:53] idea of moving the laboratory i just

[41:55] have a

[41:57] is that resolution in 2013 climbing or

[42:00] non-binary

[42:07] [Music]

[42:09] 2013 city council class resolution

[42:11] 2013-206

[42:15] approving and adopting the 2013 gateway

[42:17] positive with a patient

[42:19] you know over 100 page plan

[42:23] i pulled out one quote from the plan

[42:26] that i thought was applicable i was

[42:28] asked to look into it just so that

[42:30] everybody's on the same page with what i

[42:32] saw

[42:32] and i did a search so i may have missed

[42:34] something but i did search just a

[42:37] statue of liberty to see where it was in

[42:39] the plan

[42:40] and on page 19 of the plan

[42:43] it's section 1.12 existing monuments and

[42:46] historic markers it says quote

[42:49] there are numerous monuments and

[42:50] historic markers throughout the park the

[42:53] number of monuments and signs coupled

[42:55] with a proximity to one and one another

[42:58] has the effect of cluttering the park

[43:01] each should be evaluated as part of the

[43:03] new design and careful consideration

[43:05] should be given as to how they are

[43:06] placed within the new plaza

[43:08] that's what it said

[43:11] i did not find anything in there saying

[43:13] you know it should be removed

[43:15] and not find anything in there that said

[43:18] it should be

[43:19] relocated i did not find anything in

[43:21] there that said it shouldn't be removed

[43:23] or it shouldn't be relocated

[43:27] that's what i saw in looking at the plan

[43:29] so i would say that it you know is it

[43:31] binding

[43:33] it's a plan that the council adopted

[43:35] it's binding to the degree that is

[43:37] fitted up by the council but again it's

[43:39] a plan right plans sometimes don't

[43:41] always reference that

[43:43] so i think there is some uh

[43:45] maneuverability within the plan because

[43:47] as things were developing the plaza in

[43:50] terms of what they were doing to the

[43:51] park there had to be some flexibility

[43:53] within that so it was the ideal of the

[43:56] plan and then what actually happened

[44:00] so then our resolution should just so we

[44:04] get it right

[44:05] so our resolution should be to

[44:08] recommend the movement back to liberty

[44:12] park

[44:16] i don't have an opinion on that you know

[44:18] that's not a legal question okay the

[44:20] council can you

[44:37] [Music]

[44:41] okay

[44:42] so the final five items on the agenda

[44:45] are an executive session

[44:58] probably will have to leave

[45:04] okay

Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting November 1st 2021

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