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[14:50] I'd like to call to order the

[14:52] Schenectady city council committee

[14:53] meeting for Monday November 7th 2022 and

[14:57] the first committee is claims hi I'd

[15:00] like to call claims to order we have one

[15:03] item on the agenda and for that item we

[15:05] need to go into executive session so I'd

[15:07] like to have a motion to go into

[15:09] executive session

[15:15] challenge

[15:17] I want to be this the second car oh

[15:21] did you move oh okay in a second okay

[15:24] all in favor

[15:28] um so we'll go into executive session

[15:29] sorry it didn't

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[49:01] thank you Colorado finance committee in

[49:04] The Far Side tell me just a reminder for

[49:06] public hearing the purchase of 0.15 acre

[49:09] paper

[49:09] 3.588 at Broadway

[49:12] and the public hearing is scheduled for

[49:14] 11 14.

[49:17] the next item is a World Cup rules

[49:19] Garden restoration committee potential

[49:21] reimbursement of expenses as a Ferrari

[49:24] you are taking that um

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[49:32] this is uh just bringing person for the

[49:35] Rose Garden restoration committee for

[49:38] expenses they incurred to maintain the

[49:41] Rose Garden

[49:42] uh in 2022 we're looking to reimburse

[49:45] them I told five thousand seven hundred

[49:47] forty five dollars uh so I'm just

[49:49] requesting that Council approve this

[49:52] and we I did reimburse them in 2021 as

[49:55] well

[49:55] any questions

[49:58] all in favor hi thank you

[50:02] the next item is a public hearing call

[50:04] for public Hearing in the 2023 Downtown

[50:06] special assessment District

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[50:29] I'd like to open health and Recreation

[50:31] and we have two items on the agenda this

[50:33] evening uh the first item is regarding

[50:36] the senior meal program

[50:38] um the second item is a New York State

[50:41] climate Action Council scoping plan

[50:44] um so I'd like to turn the floor over to

[50:46] Miram Cosby for the first time

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[50:49] Council in the 2022 budget and then 2023

[50:53] budget put money in for meal sites I've

[50:58] been able to enter into negotiations

[51:02] with the Catholic Family improved

[51:04] services to uh provide the support

[51:09] structure for those and at this point

[51:13] asking the council for authorization to

[51:15] allow me to sign a contract to formally

[51:18] engage them

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[51:22] questions

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[51:29] I just want to know the hours of

[51:31] operation I unless I'm missing it

[51:34] I don't know if they've been set the

[51:36] hours of maybe like 11 to 1 years so the

[51:40] hours will be uh

[51:53] thank you for having me here

[51:56] um yeah the the hours for the program

[51:58] will is going to vary on each day Monday

[52:01] and Wednesdays the hours will be 10 30

[52:03] to 12 30 so that the participants have a

[52:06] chance to come in socialize when they

[52:08] first get there we will be offering some

[52:11] activities when they at about 11 o'clock

[52:14] for 2022 we will be offering a matter of

[52:18] balance exercise programs a fall

[52:20] prevention Initiative for folks so they

[52:22] will engage in those activities

[52:23] structured activity from about 11 to 11

[52:26] 45 then we'll serve lunch and they'll be

[52:29] able to have lunch and then socialize a

[52:31] bit afterwards and then then leave by 12

[52:34] 30. Fridays are going to be a little bit

[52:36] different Fridays are a breakfast

[52:37] program so the hours there are going to

[52:40] be about 10 to 12. they will arrive

[52:43] um it is at a cafe it's at the Bellevue

[52:45] Cafe so that food is going to be

[52:47] prepared and ready to go so they'll be

[52:48] able to come in again socialize for a

[52:51] period of time have their breakfast at a

[52:53] nice breakfast buffet and then following

[52:56] the meal we will be doing the activities

[52:58] at that site so it will be the same

[53:01] thing for 2022 it's going to be our

[53:03] matter of balance we have a certified

[53:04] instructor on staff who will be coming

[53:06] in to do that in 2023 we are in

[53:10] negotiations and we have talked with uh

[53:12] MVP who will be coming in to do or some

[53:14] of our programming then so they will be

[53:16] doing some Tai Chi chicks chair Tai Chi

[53:21] and other types of programmings that is

[53:24] you know beneficial for the older adults

[53:26] will also be doing when we can some

[53:28] types of activities for uh not only just

[53:31] physical activities but brain engagement

[53:33] if you will trivia really trying to keep

[53:36] the folks because we know social

[53:37] isolation has been so challenging and

[53:39] folks have gotten used to being home and

[53:41] are kind of content so we want folks to

[53:43] get back out have a meal socialize

[53:45] engage in some activities and have the

[53:48] opportunity to do that in three

[53:50] different sites each week

[53:52] and this is

[53:54] kind of compliment what has been set up

[53:57] at the Hibernian so I'm approaching with

[53:58] some of an open mind where we'll have to

[54:01] see what the actual level of

[54:03] participation is and

[54:06] what the client mixes so that you know

[54:10] could vary depending on who

[54:13] Catholic Family Beauty Services has done

[54:18] this number of levels and has the

[54:21] flexibility I think to kind of handle

[54:24] whatever May evolve here so that it'll

[54:27] benefit the people and you know reflect

[54:30] well on the money that the council has

[54:32] invested in this and

[54:34] can create opportunities within those

[54:37] neighborhoods Miss birthday so um you

[54:40] said you mentioned the site in Bellevue

[54:42] is the Belgian Cafe yes what what are

[54:44] the sites in Goose Hill and Hamilton

[54:46] Hill in Hamilton Hill it is the hillside

[54:49] Crossings

[54:50] and in um

[54:52] Goose Hill it's the um or do I have this

[54:55] back no the steinmets steinmet's

[54:58] community park community room okay

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[55:03] other questions

[55:06] since you're here would you mind just

[55:08] expanding on your long-term teams with

[55:10] the project and how you see this kind of

[55:12] functioning in the city of Schenectady

[55:14] sure so Catholic Charities as a whole

[55:17] has been doing these types of

[55:18] programmings for over 40 years in

[55:20] Schenectady County so we operate within

[55:22] a contract with the county four other

[55:24] congregate site so that's kind of what

[55:25] we see long term for this and being able

[55:27] to partner with the city and not only

[55:29] have it at these sites but other

[55:31] locations again having the opportunities

[55:34] to have places where older adults can

[55:36] come out and engage with each other and

[55:39] have socialization in meals so my goal

[55:42] is always to bring more and more and

[55:43] more out into the community where the

[55:45] people are where the needs are we

[55:47] envision the first uh probably you know

[55:49] four or five months spending some time

[55:51] talking with the folks that are coming

[55:52] out to these sites and really kind of

[55:54] looking at it as what what do they see

[55:55] as their needs what else would they like

[55:57] to see where else would they like to see

[55:59] this some other types of things so we as

[56:01] an agency our mission is to bring the

[56:03] services out to hopes in the community

[56:05] we're they're at so we offer other types

[56:08] of programming so I guess that's another

[56:10] Advantage we do have other programs that

[56:12] can benefit the older adults that come

[56:14] there too we can make referrals for a

[56:16] lot of Need for case management really

[56:18] trying to help to connect with health

[56:19] insurance information and counseling and

[56:22] caregiver support things so we can get

[56:24] folks connected that need that so my

[56:27] goal is to be able to expand the types

[56:29] of services and the types of sites that

[56:31] we do for the older adults in the in the

[56:34] county

[56:37] support them so what does your Staffing

[56:39] look like and each of these okay at each

[56:41] site we will have a staff person at each

[56:43] site each day

[56:44] initially we have staff person right now

[56:46] who we're able to pull some of her hours

[56:48] from her full-time position to be on

[56:50] site to do that we have a program

[56:52] director who oversees the program who

[56:54] will also be on site for as long as it

[56:57] takes until we kind of work out some of

[56:59] the Kinks and get it running smoothly

[57:01] the goal is to hire a person

[57:03] specifically for this program once we

[57:06] get flowing and we kind of see how it's

[57:07] going to work so that's what we're able

[57:09] to do right now is to have the the staff

[57:11] that we have on board the food for the

[57:14] sites at

[57:15] Steinmetz community park and

[57:18] Hillside Crossings is going to be coming

[57:21] through a vendor we already have a

[57:22] contract with so we already pick up food

[57:24] at the McClellan Campus of Ellis

[57:26] Hospital so we have the staff person on

[57:28] board who already has the we have the

[57:29] vehicle and the equipment and everything

[57:30] that we need to go and get the food

[57:32] bring it over to the sites and then the

[57:35] staff person there will will be able to

[57:38] receive it and start the program

[57:39] obviously we'd be looking for volunteers

[57:41] to help support the staff person there

[57:43] as well and depending on the number of

[57:44] people at a site it'll get a little bit

[57:46] more challenging with one person but we

[57:49] do utilize volunteers and a lot of other

[57:51] capacities in the agency as well

[57:53] so you mentioned 2022 and 2023 so 2022

[57:58] is like we're almost done right so 2023

[58:01] do have an average of what the cost is

[58:03] going to be for um

[58:05] provide the service we put a budget

[58:07] together for 2023 and I think that we

[58:09] came in and right around 50

[58:13] 000 was the budget

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[58:17] thank you thank you yes I just want to

[58:21] say that I'm very thankful about it

[58:23] because I think it's going to be an

[58:25] amazing program

[58:26] um and the fact that the city of

[58:28] Schenectady is going to be supporting

[58:30] um both this idea of allowing active

[58:34] older adults to come together I don't

[58:36] like to use the word Senior come

[58:37] together for both the socialization as

[58:40] well as a pot nutritious meal now five

[58:44] days a week

[58:46] um so none of it is conflicting with the

[58:48] program that it's already been

[58:50] successful and ongoing hybridians but

[58:53] now it's every single day of the week in

[58:55] the city of Schenectady there's going to

[58:57] be an opportunity for seniors to come

[59:00] together so it's you know really

[59:02] groundbreaking and and we're very you

[59:04] know I'm very excited about it so I

[59:06] appreciate the partnership

[59:10] thank you thank you

[59:22] health and Recreation yes a motion to

[59:25] move this sorry I'll move it okay second

[59:32] chance okay all right all in favor

[59:36] aye any opposed

[59:38] okay thank you that's great

[59:41] um next is the alternate floor where

[59:44] this is called many to talk about the

[59:45] environmental piece so this is a uh

[59:48] something that the state is considering

[59:51] I'm just a resolution to support it it's

[59:55] largely an environmental aspect you have

[59:58] a

[1:00:00] overview that's quite extensive but the

[1:00:04] idea is to reduce carbon emissions and

[1:00:07] greenhouse gas emissions

[1:00:09] considerably that's going to be done

[1:00:12] largely going to electricity but there

[1:00:16] is a a major component that can impact

[1:00:21] our residents beyond the environment

[1:00:23] the board of authority the port of

[1:00:26] Albany is part of this program where the

[1:00:31] state is looking to really establish

[1:00:34] wind energy across the state that's part

[1:00:38] of reducing the emissions and it's a

[1:00:43] substantial

[1:00:45] investment into the court of Albany

[1:00:47] they're going to need a number of people

[1:00:49] to work there

[1:00:51] hopefully some of our residents will get

[1:00:54] that job get those jobs

[1:00:56] and bring some of that money to their

[1:00:59] households but largely it's an

[1:01:01] environmental piece of reducing

[1:01:04] emissions and looking to ship away from

[1:01:08] fossil fuels towards electrical

[1:01:14] any discussion on this

[1:01:17] and Mr Paul many I think you're asking

[1:01:19] for the council support in supporting

[1:01:23] this correct Bill okay then I look for a

[1:01:26] resolution admission okay all in favor okay thank you very

[1:01:32] much

[1:01:34] awesome so uh motion to adjourn from

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[1:01:42] um okay thank you very much

[1:01:45] government operations we have two agenda

[1:01:48] items the first is implicit bias

[1:01:50] training um president Porterfield thank

[1:01:52] you so we've been discussing this in the

[1:01:55] council um all the council has been an

[1:01:57] agreement that we will do it part of the

[1:01:59] considerations were the cost

[1:02:00] and um so you know we did receive

[1:02:03] information from various vendors however

[1:02:06] our insurance company that ensures the

[1:02:08] city that also um does our workplace

[1:02:12] violence trade uh training and also

[1:02:14] sexual harassment does have training

[1:02:17] available to us which is essentially

[1:02:19] free

[1:02:20] there is a cost because I explained to

[1:02:23] them that they wanted to do it during

[1:02:25] the day but during the day just doesn't

[1:02:27] work for everyone because people have

[1:02:28] jobs during the day so they want to do

[1:02:30] like in mid-afternoon so that's probably

[1:02:32] something that could not be

[1:02:33] accommodating after speaking to um

[1:02:35] council members who work during the day

[1:02:37] so um they have provided an opportunity

[1:02:40] for us to do it in the evening

[1:02:42] but then that means that there's over

[1:02:43] like accommodations

[1:02:45] so I spoke with Mr

[1:02:47] um Ferrari and we do have there is money

[1:02:50] that's available to pay for an overnight

[1:02:51] accommodation which is going to be much

[1:02:55] uh less than if we paid the trainer to

[1:02:57] actually come into training so they are

[1:03:00] prepared to come forward to do the

[1:03:01] implicit bias training they provided us

[1:03:04] with a couple of dates at the end of

[1:03:05] this month October 28th and 29th so um

[1:03:09] November November 28th and 29th yes

[1:03:12] November 28th and 29th so I mean I'll

[1:03:14] send out an email you'll have to check

[1:03:15] it right now but I'll send out an email

[1:03:17] with your Avail for your availability

[1:03:19] but um something it's something we

[1:03:21] really need to move forward with and so

[1:03:23] we have landed on that again with a

[1:03:26] little or no cost uh a low cost to the

[1:03:29] city but also an insurance carrier that

[1:03:31] we all we already deal with to do our

[1:03:33] other trainings

[1:03:35] expression so yes ask questions any

[1:03:38] questions

[1:03:39] on this matter

[1:03:42] it's good to get the insurance company

[1:03:48] so I so I was looking into this as well

[1:03:51] I think that on the explicit virus

[1:03:53] training is definitely going to start

[1:03:55] the police start

[1:03:57] um I know that we spoke in our College

[1:03:59] sessions around you know also engaging with anti-racism training

[1:04:04] um since I reached out to um some of our

[1:04:07] partners within the school district and

[1:04:09] they were called to be able to

[1:04:10] accommodate us to

[1:04:13] do that training as well

[1:04:15] as these trainers do go hand in hand

[1:04:19] really build off each other as far as

[1:04:21] sustainability goes I think would be a

[1:04:23] good

[1:04:24] um thing to take advantage of we have a

[1:04:27] partner willing to help us in that thus

[1:04:31] far in the conversation for the first

[1:04:33] training was will be done in the course

[1:04:38] any questions about that

[1:04:42] so are you recommending or asking that

[1:04:45] these these trainings be done

[1:04:47] simultaneously what is what are you

[1:04:49] suggesting well I I don't want that

[1:04:51] because as far as just logistically put

[1:04:53] them together and if we could I think so

[1:04:57] um but I know that this is um

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[1:05:09] as many you know Refreshers

[1:05:13] um I also think that there's a specific

[1:05:17] um

[1:05:20] type of training I guess within this

[1:05:23] training that is relevant to our

[1:05:24] positions as a governing body

[1:05:27] so I think that we can um we allowed to

[1:05:31] take advantage of that so so at this

[1:05:34] point logistically I don't know if it

[1:05:35] would have learned you could do like the

[1:05:36] same thing but I'm sure that the council

[1:05:38] members would also

[1:05:40] foreign

[1:05:49] have any questions concerns

[1:05:52] around anti-racist security as well

[1:05:58] okay

[1:05:59] so if I could just switch up on the

[1:06:01] implicit bias um they did give us the

[1:06:03] time frame is like three hours just so

[1:06:05] you know it's not an all-day train but

[1:06:08] it will be at least three hours and in

[1:06:11] doing the background and research and

[1:06:13] looking into this

[1:06:15] it's my understanding that anything

[1:06:16] under two hours is really not that

[1:06:18] beneficial so they already have their uh training outlined and it is

[1:06:23] three hours so they would come to us

[1:06:25] with with the uh with the training that

[1:06:27] they provide and our insurance company

[1:06:29] actually is known was

[1:06:32] for Forbes they received Forbes 2020

[1:06:34] being the most one of the um Assurance

[1:06:37] company that that racial that had a lot

[1:06:39] of diversity and inclusion as part of as

[1:06:42] part of their Workforce so I I'm hoping

[1:06:45] that the training that we'll be able to

[1:06:46] get from then will certainly benefit the

[1:06:49] Council

[1:06:52] would it be able would we be able to

[1:06:54] work it out with our insurance company

[1:06:56] as well for the industries the same

[1:06:58] training he said that was free free from

[1:07:01] school from the school district is there

[1:07:04] just one

[1:07:06] person or that supplies that just one

[1:07:09] individual the trains yeah

[1:07:13] so multiple people would come in or well

[1:07:16] that would depend on the scope of

[1:07:18] services that we operate so it really

[1:07:20] depends on the need

[1:07:23] so part of that though when if I can

[1:07:25] speak to that part of that is that they

[1:07:27] come and kind of talk to the council and

[1:07:29] say you know kind of get our idea of

[1:07:31] what needs to happen so they think so

[1:07:34] it's sort of like interview process sure

[1:07:36] so then they can then they would take

[1:07:37] the training and make sure that the

[1:07:39] training is specific to what what was

[1:07:41] identified

[1:07:43] training is really important that you're

[1:07:45] responsive right so um you don't want to

[1:07:48] just come in and say I mean there's some

[1:07:49] pretty basic you know sheer Concepts and

[1:07:52] understandings and definitions that you

[1:07:54] know we just kind of universal things

[1:07:55] but really what you want to do is you

[1:07:58] really want to make sure that your

[1:07:59] trading is tired responsive to who

[1:08:02] they're funny so it's more relevant and

[1:08:04] you can actually apply your practices

[1:08:06] so would there be like a questionnaire

[1:08:08] prior to us getting a team in to speak

[1:08:12] with us or or would they come in and

[1:08:14] speak with us and then go from there

[1:08:15] well our

[1:08:17] I'm not sure how they would want to do

[1:08:19] that um and in my experience what I do

[1:08:22] is I I may not meet with whatever group

[1:08:24] or at least some representatives of the

[1:08:26] group that I'd be working with and then

[1:08:28] kind of get you know ask them some

[1:08:30] pretty basic questions as to around me

[1:08:33] um you know commitment you know what is

[1:08:35] you know

[1:08:36] where are there any special areas that

[1:08:38] you're getting better you know have kind

[1:08:40] of risen to me I'm concerned that you

[1:08:41] need to address you know so on and so

[1:08:43] forth so it really depends

[1:08:47] I think we move forward with the

[1:08:49] implicit bias training as far as the any

[1:08:51] racism training I think we should look

[1:08:53] at a variety of different vendors if we

[1:08:55] go down that road and get through the

[1:08:58] three hours first that's

[1:09:01] a big time commitment to end one evening

[1:09:06] some of these meetings have been three

[1:09:08] hours so and we all know how we are

[1:09:11] after those three hours so and so I

[1:09:15] think we get through that and look at

[1:09:17] various vendors and who might be able to

[1:09:20] do training and see about moving forward

[1:09:22] on that yeah and we all want to make

[1:09:24] sure that also the cost is something we

[1:09:27] always want to keep in mind and I don't

[1:09:28] want to diminish you know you know we

[1:09:30] had a little levity here but I want just

[1:09:32] to reiterate that there's this is very

[1:09:34] important and I'm sure that as good

[1:09:36] trainers they will give us a break

[1:09:37] somewhere in the middle we don't break

[1:09:38] I'm sure they will that's just how

[1:09:41] that's how good trainers do it

[1:09:43] so I would just uh say like so

[1:09:45] safariable or other vendors the

[1:09:48] anti-racist trade um I'm definitely

[1:09:50] willing to to do that as well but I

[1:09:53] think that if there's a you know if one

[1:09:56] of our Community Partners offering that

[1:09:57] for free and it's a pretty clear need

[1:09:59] that is something that I need as a

[1:10:01] council and I think that you should

[1:10:03] probably have on that

[1:10:06] I'm not saying not to I'm just saying

[1:10:08] let's look at a variety of different

[1:10:10] well organizations we can do this

[1:10:12] similarly with what we did with this we

[1:10:14] looked at you know what the cost would

[1:10:15] be in various vendors and people from

[1:10:16] out of town and all that and just came

[1:10:18] back to the fact for us this was a

[1:10:20] little bit easier because it's our

[1:10:21] insurance company that we already deal

[1:10:23] with Etc so um absolutely that's

[1:10:26] something you know to be considered is

[1:10:27] like with anything else we want at least

[1:10:29] three so

[1:10:31] um

[1:10:32] yeah but with this as it gets said it's

[1:10:34] a little bit different because our

[1:10:35] insurance companies are there offering

[1:10:36] so um we could definitely you know make

[1:10:40] sure we look into that and uh we'll

[1:10:41] start with this

[1:10:44] want to get through budget season but

[1:10:45] we're through that and uh so we'll move

[1:10:47] forward with the training

[1:10:50] [Music]

[1:10:51] and I don't think we need a resolution

[1:10:53] for that we're just having a discussion

[1:10:55] is that the 28th is a council meeting

[1:10:58] evening so the 9th of 29th because they

[1:11:01] gave us the dates yeah yeah I can go

[1:11:03] back and ask if uh unless unless I mean

[1:11:06] again I know folks work but unless we

[1:11:08] did it before Council

[1:11:19] I can go back to them and ask if there's

[1:11:22] another date that they can um offer us

[1:11:26] and see if we can but uh I don't want to

[1:11:29] kick this can too much further down the

[1:11:31] road so I'll do that right now then we

[1:11:33] would definitely say the 29.5 the 28th

[1:11:35] and see if we can do another date

[1:11:37] um

[1:11:39] and I'll ask Marianne gave me the dates

[1:11:41] I'll ask her to stay away from Monday

[1:11:43] [Music]

[1:11:45] foreign

[1:11:59] for free

[1:12:01] um

[1:12:02] so please jump into words

[1:12:05] um

[1:12:10] whatever you decide you're about 11 I

[1:12:13] think on Netflix so

[1:12:17] oh is there a possibility since we're

[1:12:19] requesting it that we all pigeon

[1:12:22] ourselves to pay for it without

[1:12:23] burdening the taxpayers

[1:12:27] so

[1:12:30] I guess that could happen but that's why

[1:12:32] you know that free part well again we

[1:12:35] want to open it up but you know I'd be

[1:12:38] in favor of that myself

[1:12:41] yeah so you're suggesting we pay for the

[1:12:43] overnight accommodations that's already

[1:12:45] budgeted for us to get trading if if

[1:12:47] that's what it takes it's already

[1:12:49] budgeted no not the biases or already in

[1:12:53] there but

[1:12:54] moving forward if we don't want to

[1:12:56] burden the taxpayers with that and

[1:12:58] there's you know foreign

[1:13:06] that was just a suggestion that I'm

[1:13:09] making personally

[1:13:13] well in service training is something

[1:13:15] that all departments do and we just have

[1:13:17] it

[1:13:18] but there is money available too and

[1:13:19] it's it's an overnight accommodation I

[1:13:21] don't know where you know what hotels

[1:13:23] rooms and that was the issue just

[1:13:25] because it's okay

[1:13:27] yeah that's not even it's connected they

[1:13:30] didn't have to say one close enough to

[1:13:32] walk so now we're going to really narrow

[1:13:34] it down

[1:13:35] I would say it's public servants I apply

[1:13:38] this training is helping us be more

[1:13:40] beneficial by our roles in the movies

[1:13:41] and service the city so I think what I'm

[1:13:44] excited for most is although maybe other

[1:13:47] councils haven't partaken these types of

[1:13:49] actions I think this is very

[1:13:51] revolutionary in our city where this can

[1:13:53] potentially be something that's annually

[1:13:54] so I look at the benefits of this long

[1:13:57] term for future capsules and how we are

[1:14:00] taking in Monumental stuff and making

[1:14:02] sure that there might be various

[1:14:04] trainings that are required of council

[1:14:08] members to make sure that we are most

[1:14:09] beneficial at our roles in the city so

[1:14:11] I'm excited for that I think with that

[1:14:13] point I would say it should be a budget

[1:14:15] item within the city but definitely how

[1:14:17] I

[1:14:18] is making our work more impactful for

[1:14:20] the city

[1:14:22] with that mind we could potentially

[1:14:25] piggyback with the police department

[1:14:27] since there's 60 000 in the budget so

[1:14:29] that might actually be a quite a

[1:14:31] beneficial thing for everybody

[1:14:33] piggy bank what does that mean like we

[1:14:36] train all together training yeah yeah

[1:14:37] well I think I think I've said this

[1:14:40] before and I'd like to repeat that I'd

[1:14:42] like that training that that that just

[1:14:44] like increases the numbers which means

[1:14:47] there's less interaction all that this

[1:14:49] training we talked about for the council

[1:14:50] so for this particular I would like us

[1:14:52] to say focus on that

[1:14:54] would not be implicit right okay all right

[1:15:00] they already yeah they already have in

[1:15:03] their budget right yeah so we can

[1:15:06] piggyback with that and be beneficial I

[1:15:08] think for everybody yeah I would say

[1:15:11] on the inside of anti-racism training

[1:15:14] the same as implicit bar training that

[1:15:16] we should probably make sure that we're

[1:15:20] doing it in a way that is relevant to

[1:15:22] our jobs and duties and our having

[1:15:24] seen the University of training that

[1:15:27] happens because of the police but I

[1:15:28] would imagine because I did go to the

[1:15:30] inclusive buyers of unfortunately I was

[1:15:33] able to look at some of that so I would

[1:15:35] imagine that some of that content is

[1:15:37] going to be specific to the nature of

[1:15:39] the job that you're doing so with that

[1:15:41] said I think that we also should focus

[1:15:43] on Council that's what we've done the

[1:15:45] same way before because it's about

[1:15:46] shared anti-creases of training

[1:15:54] discussion

[1:15:56] [Music]

[1:15:57] okay sounds good I'll send you an email

[1:15:59] all right

[1:16:01] agenda item and ask

[1:16:04] us

[1:16:06] an item that would require executive

[1:16:09] sessions contract negotiations

[1:16:12] to hold it maybe to the end when we go

[1:16:14] in for property sales

[1:16:16] okay so I definitely not like to recess

[1:16:19] the operations

[1:16:27] right I'd like to follow the order City

[1:16:29] development and planning we have seven

[1:16:31] items on the agenda the first item is to

[1:16:33] award bin contract for the Schenectady

[1:16:35] Park connector Trail wayfinding and

[1:16:38] signage to WS fun design company

[1:16:42] so

[1:16:50] um this was a complicated project for us

[1:16:52] to do not in implementation but just

[1:16:55] kind of in the bidding process it's a

[1:16:57] small project it's a little you know

[1:16:59] tough who do you how do you use it

[1:17:01] what's the cost going to be do you bid

[1:17:03] it do you get quotes So the safest thing

[1:17:05] was to bid it

[1:17:06] um we did put it together as a bid we

[1:17:09] only got one response I did talk with

[1:17:12] some locals as it was a bid and not a

[1:17:15] price they found it a little cumbersome

[1:17:16] to go through our bid processes uh

[1:17:20] they're smaller shops that don't usually

[1:17:22] have Bond requirements and things like

[1:17:24] that so we got the one bid from WS signs

[1:17:28] out of Springfield Massachusetts The

[1:17:30] Price is Right Where we kind of expected

[1:17:33] it to be taught from other vendors we

[1:17:35] have not worked with them but given the

[1:17:37] kind of the elementary and stuff the

[1:17:40] project we would like to recommend

[1:17:42] foreign

[1:17:45] early spring we're doing this project in

[1:17:47] cooperation with the county and

[1:17:49] Metroplex it is kind of a half and half

[1:17:53] tourism project a local project because

[1:17:56] it's just about linking downtown in the

[1:17:59] Parks to each other so we're going to

[1:18:01] start at the dog park in Central Park

[1:18:03] and we're going to end at the Vail

[1:18:06] entrance way and then the goal is going

[1:18:08] to be when we complete our Franklin

[1:18:10] Street cycle track that we're going to

[1:18:12] take this type of sign as you move it

[1:18:13] all the way down to J Street and then

[1:18:15] that way we create the J the Central

[1:18:18] Park Corridor and we're going to expand

[1:18:20] off that

[1:18:29] in retrospect I mean this is hindsight

[1:18:32] but I don't want to I don't want to

[1:18:34] punish in a way the company for going

[1:18:37] through the work and doing the bid but

[1:18:39] in retrospective the cost was under 35

[1:18:41] 000 and we knew that from the did go we

[1:18:44] could under our purchasing policy get

[1:18:46] three written quotes

[1:18:48] but we thought the bid was the safest

[1:18:50] that we had the estimate somewhere

[1:18:51] between 30 and 50. okay okay

[1:18:54] thank you any other questions

[1:18:57] um

[1:18:58] that's it all in favor

[1:19:01] aye thank you thank you very much

[1:19:05] okay next item on the agenda's

[1:19:07] discussion it starts with me

[1:19:08] anti-literate program

[1:19:10] anti-liter action plan follow-up

[1:19:14] someone sure

[1:19:16] um so just to keep this on the Forefront

[1:19:18] to try to move through some

[1:19:21] is that may uh may not be as

[1:19:25] controversial

[1:19:27] um just looking to see if the council

[1:19:30] would agree to authorize the mayor to

[1:19:34] um

[1:19:36] do certificates as we have for example

[1:19:39] this is an example on page 69

[1:19:42] with businesses to encourage them to

[1:19:45] keep up their property to get the litter

[1:19:48] picked up on their properties try to put

[1:19:50] garbage cans out there

[1:19:53] and move forward to try to

[1:19:56] systematically go through some of the

[1:19:58] easier Parts before we get to the more

[1:20:00] difficult parts and authorize the mayor

[1:20:04] to do that so that way we're all engaged

[1:20:07] with this as a council as well as an

[1:20:09] Administration

[1:20:11] do we really need to

[1:20:13] authorize the man to do that yeah so

[1:20:15] Meredith you can speak there's probably

[1:20:17] a little bit more

[1:20:18] um because it started this project I

[1:20:20] wouldn't do it just by myself

[1:20:25] you want just like you want to the

[1:20:27] resolutions you want us all the Slime I

[1:20:29] think well let's how do we do something

[1:20:31] that's a little bit fancy you know

[1:20:33] people take a little bit of pride in and

[1:20:35] become part of your message

[1:20:39] yeah but my question is do we need to

[1:20:42] like authorize you to do that I think

[1:20:44] you can maybe do it informal

[1:20:47] my only oh sorry

[1:20:50] I apologize my only thinking was if we

[1:20:53] all got on board it shows that we're all

[1:20:56] committed to trying to tackle this and

[1:20:59] that was my only thinking on that we

[1:21:00] certainly don't need to authorize the

[1:21:02] mayor but it would be a I think a show

[1:21:07] that we're on board trying to get the

[1:21:10] city cleaned up well hmm

[1:21:13] Miss Patrick

[1:21:15] um I was going to say that in terms of

[1:21:16] you know we've been getting a lot of

[1:21:18] positive feedback about this plan and

[1:21:21] every time that somebody reaches out to

[1:21:23] me I send it out to them and get their

[1:21:24] feedback you know to the plan et cetera

[1:21:27] um and across the board people are

[1:21:29] really interested in this idea of what

[1:21:31] new businesses do and how can we support

[1:21:34] the businesses in their own storefronts

[1:21:36] especially our smaller businesses in

[1:21:39] having a park and playing a role in uh

[1:21:44] cleaning up cleaning up the city so I

[1:21:46] think that's a good one I do think that

[1:21:48] this is a good kind of easy start to

[1:21:51] some of the other recommendations that

[1:21:53] are in the plan

[1:21:57] yeah I I thank all of us on when I saw

[1:22:00] most I think all of us are concerned

[1:22:01] about the other troll of the city and we

[1:22:03] have all of us receive concerns from

[1:22:07] residents from business and things of

[1:22:08] that and I think when this initially

[1:22:10] came out to things more on an

[1:22:12] educational drive to to work on that

[1:22:14] continent towards the resident towards

[1:22:17] business and things like that so I think

[1:22:19] we should you know continue that

[1:22:21] momentum where we build on the

[1:22:23] educational confidence of this operation

[1:22:25] here and

[1:22:27] [Music]

[1:22:28] is the executive officer so I don't

[1:22:32] think we can we can do that but we need

[1:22:34] to just work on our set out to

[1:22:35] originally educational confidence and

[1:22:37] all of us can help in terms of driving

[1:22:40] that message to Residents and everybody got

[1:22:44] involved

[1:22:47] um I like the idea of Mayor of if

[1:22:49] there's going to be a fancy certificate

[1:22:51] that we all sign it I think that's that

[1:22:53] shows the

[1:22:54] commitment of all all council members so

[1:22:58] I guess you'll be designing that

[1:23:01] we'll go out and find some fancy frames

[1:23:04] too oh okay okay

[1:23:09] I also think it's important to be

[1:23:12] realistic and that there's a lot of

[1:23:13] different like trends that go around and

[1:23:15] I absolutely like love the thought of

[1:23:17] anti-littering being a trendy Topic in

[1:23:19] the city how I think it also is

[1:23:22] important for us to recognize that there

[1:23:23] may be individuals that do pledge and

[1:23:25] unfortunately either Fall by the wayside

[1:23:27] or don't continue to enact that belief

[1:23:30] of making sure you're picking up your

[1:23:32] trash order and keeping your area clean

[1:23:34] so having plenty dollar consideration to

[1:23:36] how to remedy those types of issues or

[1:23:38] address people that may be falling by

[1:23:40] the wayside in a productive manner so

[1:23:42] that we just don't have like a thousand

[1:23:43] players in the city so it's

[1:23:46] where it's on page 68 yeah

[1:23:50] I mean those are really good points and

[1:23:53] that's why I think the accountability

[1:23:54] issue

[1:23:55] um is definitely and how do we hold

[1:23:57] people people and businesses accountable

[1:23:59] so there are different

[1:24:02] um it's not just uh 68 it actually

[1:24:04] starts on 66 but yeah there's a few laws

[1:24:07] in the enforcement piece

[1:24:10] number of different recommendations

[1:24:12] um

[1:24:14] I'll just say for some of the listeners

[1:24:15] that might have had an opportunity to

[1:24:17] review this and you can just highlight

[1:24:18] the important part

[1:24:23] um

[1:24:23] so to collaborate and communicate with

[1:24:27] Schenectady businesses that have

[1:24:28] Perpetual litter and trash issues and

[1:24:30] violations so just some easy ways is

[1:24:34] maybe take some pictures of the litter

[1:24:36] on the business property speak nicely to

[1:24:40] the owner the manager of the business

[1:24:42] you could even send a letter with the

[1:24:44] picture asking you know how can the

[1:24:47] residents help how can the city help

[1:24:49] make an appointment to meet with the

[1:24:51] business owner or the manager ask them

[1:24:54] how we can work together to educate

[1:24:56] customers to stop littering which is

[1:24:59] part of the certificate aspect offer to

[1:25:03] provide educational materials such as

[1:25:05] posters for posting in prominent places

[1:25:08] in their establishment follow up with

[1:25:10] good news if they

[1:25:13] get less litter or with bad news if

[1:25:16] there's continued litter and if bad news

[1:25:19] it it would be a fine from the city and

[1:25:22] this pledge would be their commitment

[1:25:26] of it starts with me of trying to

[1:25:30] address this issue so it's kind of a

[1:25:33] incremental process of easing people

[1:25:36] into hey we need to take pride in our

[1:25:39] business and keep it clean

[1:25:40] [Music]

[1:25:42] then I think that there's that

[1:25:43] combination and that balance of

[1:25:45] incentive and positive feedback with the

[1:25:49] idea of

[1:25:51] really you know holding folks

[1:25:53] accountable if they don't

[1:25:55] continue to meet the The Pledge that

[1:25:59] they that they've taken

[1:26:03] so

[1:26:04] how who would do the work what what

[1:26:06] department is this to me is would this

[1:26:08] be assigned to

[1:26:10] well I think that's a

[1:26:12] decision well

[1:26:15] in general

[1:26:16] that was in the office of General

[1:26:18] Services he was a police and code

[1:26:20] enforcement are part of it and a fully

[1:26:23] city-wide campaign you got to do

[1:26:26] Outreach into neighborhood groups

[1:26:29] talk about going into the schools

[1:26:31] educating some of the kids and stuff in

[1:26:34] terms of recycling and the benefits of

[1:26:36] it so you've got you know a broad-based

[1:26:40] engagement

[1:26:42] where it starts with me hopefully people

[1:26:45] take care of the problem themselves and

[1:26:47] we don't have to use City resources on

[1:26:50] it is really the ideal scenario

[1:26:52] but the reality is there's going to be

[1:26:55] some balance where yes you know City

[1:26:58] crews are going to have to play some

[1:27:00] role in it whether it is

[1:27:02] hopefully it's a constructive

[1:27:04] engagement as opposed to

[1:27:07] having to find people or cite them

[1:27:11] for you know poor choices that they're

[1:27:14] making

[1:27:16] Miss Patrick I'll follow up to that um I

[1:27:19] did ask Mr Lafond for his feedback as

[1:27:22] you had requested

[1:27:23] um he absolutely you know was very

[1:27:25] enthusiastic about the plan

[1:27:27] um definitely like the rest of us thinks

[1:27:30] that the educational aspects and

[1:27:32] especially the aspects around behavioral

[1:27:34] change whether it's young people adults

[1:27:37] businesses Etc are going to be really

[1:27:39] important he did make a suggestion of

[1:27:42] possibly a nuisance officer might be

[1:27:46] somebody that could be like a

[1:27:49] spokesperson almost and really kind of

[1:27:50] talk about the city's litter literary

[1:27:53] campaign as we move forward the other

[1:27:55] piece of this is we do have a virtual

[1:27:58] meeting set up with some members of the

[1:28:00] school district

[1:28:02] um who I went through Dr Kato and he has

[1:28:05] several people that are meeting with us

[1:28:10] this week I can't remember now what the

[1:28:12] date of it is but we'll be doing that

[1:28:13] virtually to start talking about some of

[1:28:16] the educational aspects that are in the

[1:28:17] plan

[1:28:19] and how how we can partner with the

[1:28:20] school district

[1:28:22] um on many different aspects of this

[1:28:25] so that's that's coming up as well we'll

[1:28:27] be able to update you that about that

[1:28:29] after we have a meeting

[1:28:31] yes I'm sorry I was Patrick just

[1:28:35] mentioned at their meetings set up would

[1:28:37] it be since all the city council members

[1:28:38] and mayor are involved no I think it

[1:28:40] would be wise if all the council member

[1:28:42] are invited to these meetings meetings

[1:28:45] are happening and only selected a city

[1:28:47] council member or invited so I would

[1:28:49] like to see everybody invited we're all

[1:28:51] part of it now

[1:28:52] sure I can send out the date and the

[1:28:54] time and it's a virtual meeting so it's

[1:28:58] teams I can't remember

[1:29:00] um it could be certain it could be WebEx

[1:29:02] um but I'll send it out to all of them

[1:29:04] that would be all of them

[1:29:07] I get confused these days

[1:29:10] so this is good stuff number one I think

[1:29:14] that this is and I love the educational

[1:29:16] component of this

[1:29:17] um

[1:29:22] you know

[1:29:24] just you know certain businesses who

[1:29:26] seem to have a problem but later

[1:29:28] um I would just caution us to you know

[1:29:31] have a really broad Rush with this and

[1:29:34] like this is something that we want all

[1:29:36] of our businesses all of our residents

[1:29:39] um especially that being that there's

[1:29:40] kind of some graduated interventions it

[1:29:42] looks like that will happen I would I

[1:29:44] would be mindful that we don't want to appear like we're selecting certain

[1:29:50] businesses for surveys that we just want

[1:29:52] to make sure that um

[1:29:55] way that everyone is this opportunity

[1:29:58] participate in this place yeah

[1:30:01] absolutely

[1:30:02] on every single business in the city

[1:30:05] [Music]

[1:30:07] the clinic popular annual renewal used

[1:30:09] to bring the businesses in here I now go

[1:30:12] with fire chief police chief

[1:30:15] represents Law Department

[1:30:17] code enforcement out to the stores and

[1:30:21] we walked through

[1:30:22] police calls look at the other calls for

[1:30:26] service I wanted to tell them because I

[1:30:28] wanted to view the city as a partner and

[1:30:31] I want an adversarial relationship and

[1:30:34] one of the places cleaned up there are

[1:30:38] couple of places that I have told

[1:30:41] without question their Pig styes they

[1:30:44] are an embarrassment of other ones most

[1:30:47] people they understand that they want

[1:30:49] their business to be good they want it

[1:30:53] to be attractive they want to pick it up

[1:30:55] the song that

[1:30:58] I question their business model and

[1:31:01] maybe why they're in business

[1:31:04] your point is well made and I don't ever

[1:31:08] want to project that image where people

[1:31:09] feel that it's adversarial or being

[1:31:13] treated at different levels that you

[1:31:15] want people to again be successful make

[1:31:18] money here and add value within the

[1:31:21] neighborhoods

[1:31:23] get in my town to see the city staff as

[1:31:25] partners

[1:31:27] Mr Moon Yeah there's Rocky Banks when we

[1:31:30] were discussing this last time we did

[1:31:31] mention in London use some sticky thing

[1:31:33] that was fast a couple of years ago and

[1:31:35] there were some issues with a ticketing

[1:31:38] and I it just reminds me that I had

[1:31:40] asked Mr Golden to look into it and to

[1:31:43] see what is needed for the police

[1:31:45] department your office but I'm always

[1:31:47] involved to see that we need to bring

[1:31:49] that back at the same time so to move

[1:31:51] forward with the ticketing aspect you

[1:31:53] need some ticketing aspect of that

[1:31:55] combined with the educational confidence

[1:31:58] a bit also so that's the thing if you

[1:32:00] know you have some time please fill us

[1:32:02] in and see where we can land that as we

[1:32:05] move forward yeah and you know obviously

[1:32:08] um

[1:32:11] one of the issues that we've had I think

[1:32:15] is well first you know being on the same

[1:32:16] page this police department and you know

[1:32:18] the law Department being on the same

[1:32:19] page as the police departments obviously

[1:32:21] a great significance

[1:32:24] um and I haven't had an opportunity yet

[1:32:26] uh to speak in detail with uh AC Whipple

[1:32:29] who oversees you know a lot of this part

[1:32:34] of the law enforcement

[1:32:36] the other piece to this is obviously how

[1:32:39] the filths are interpreting the tickets

[1:32:41] that come in I'm sorry how the courts

[1:32:44] see the ticketing

[1:32:46] um obviously we have different city

[1:32:48] court judges and you know obviously

[1:32:51] looking for a consistent interpretation

[1:32:54] method from the judges is you know

[1:32:57] Paramount here because what we have

[1:32:59] right now we know Works across the board

[1:33:02] to modify it we would obviously need the

[1:33:05] you know not one judge but you know all

[1:33:08] the city court judges to be on the same

[1:33:09] page and you know they're not being an

[1:33:12] issue I think you know sometimes uh you

[1:33:16] know tracking down the judges to you

[1:33:18] know find that time to talk to all of

[1:33:20] them and then for them to talk

[1:33:22] internally to make sure that they're on

[1:33:23] the same page and proved to be a bit of

[1:33:25] a challenge

[1:33:27] um but it's something obviously that you

[1:33:29] know we're going to do once I talk to

[1:33:31] the police department to figure out what

[1:33:33] is going to be the most efficient way

[1:33:34] first for them and then making sure that

[1:33:37] it complies with you know all the

[1:33:39] requirements of the criminal procedure

[1:33:40] law

[1:33:41] we're also going to be bringing in

[1:33:43] commissioner Devine since he's a former

[1:33:46] judge he might have some expertise there

[1:33:50] and uh

[1:33:52] ability to work with the court system

[1:33:54] with Mr Coleman as well as assistant

[1:33:57] chief Whipple so their your point is

[1:34:00] correct and we're we're definitely

[1:34:02] looking into putting that together but

[1:34:05] wanted to start with something yeah

[1:34:08] it's already on the books we just need

[1:34:10] to revise we need to revise and move

[1:34:11] forward

[1:34:12] to the campaign

[1:34:16] thank you

[1:34:17] uh just one other point so mayor are you

[1:34:20] comfortable with what it's being called

[1:34:22] it starts with me because I received an

[1:34:25] email

[1:34:26] saying that the council had taken over

[1:34:28] your program so just want to make sure

[1:34:31] be on record that you're comfortable oh

[1:34:33] one big happy family anybody likes it or

[1:34:36] not so just it's on the record so I can

[1:34:38] let her know but I did receive an email

[1:34:40] saying that I've taken it over maybe you

[1:34:42] shouldn't Rebrand it and call it

[1:34:43] something else so

[1:34:44] you're 100 we actually worked with the

[1:34:47] mayor so it was not stealing his program

[1:34:50] well that wasn't made public we didn't

[1:34:52] know that either so

[1:34:56] maybe she's listening to the meeting

[1:34:57] because she she obviously was listening

[1:34:59] enough to know so now she knows that

[1:35:03] we're all on board with this together

[1:35:05] all right

[1:35:07] any further discussion on this

[1:35:09] particular item okay you're quite well

[1:35:13] uh the next item is discussion of

[1:35:16] um hosting town hall meeting and that's

[1:35:19] Mr Harwin thank you so I'd like to thank

[1:35:22] the community for allowing us the time

[1:35:24] to focus more intently on passing and

[1:35:28] approving the budget for this year or

[1:35:31] for upcoming year we had an opportunity

[1:35:33] to send out two

[1:35:35] iterations of

[1:35:37] dates to host the town hall at the Boys

[1:35:40] and Girls Club I would like to thank Mr

[1:35:42] Shane Barbie for being very

[1:35:43] understanding and accommodating and it

[1:35:45] seems that the majority of the council

[1:35:47] is available on December 1st I know

[1:35:50] there were some conflicting schedules

[1:35:52] but I appreciate everyone taking the

[1:35:54] time to respond back to the email I look

[1:35:57] forward to hearing from the community I

[1:35:59] know in the absence of this meeting

[1:36:00] there have been a number of residents

[1:36:02] who have come forward to this state

[1:36:04] their their issues and and just concerns

[1:36:07] about housing within the city so

[1:36:09] absolutely I look forward to having this

[1:36:10] town hall be hosted in collaboration

[1:36:12] with the other council members and I

[1:36:14] look forward to working collaboratively

[1:36:17] with them so that it reflects our truest

[1:36:19] intent just hearing from the community

[1:36:22] so first with time

[1:36:23] I believe it was 5 30 to 7 30. so the

[1:36:27] time Remains the Same okay questions discussion we're

[1:36:34] Mr turo well no wait there's a Hamilton

[1:36:37] Hill meeting that night I just put that

[1:36:39] up here

[1:36:44] just I'm sorry it's Patrick no I'm just

[1:36:47] I have two conferences

[1:36:49] to try again so Mr Williams answer your

[1:36:52] point of Mr Tara Lake unfortunately is

[1:36:54] trying to make sure we at least have

[1:36:55] this discussion uh making it coincide

[1:36:59] cleanly with some of the neighborhood

[1:37:00] Associated meetings

[1:37:02] uncomfortable but I think for me it's

[1:37:04] reaching out to them letting them know

[1:37:06] in advance and hopefully they'll be able

[1:37:08] to adjust accordingly but again you

[1:37:10] don't need to be in attendance uh

[1:37:11] definitely want to make sure the

[1:37:12] appropriate email is put them on the

[1:37:15] flyer but people will have multiple

[1:37:17] options to be able to send their

[1:37:19] feedback so it'll be more opportunities

[1:37:22] for you to move your point

[1:37:25] does yours need to be an independent in

[1:37:27] person you can similar to how our

[1:37:29] Council meetings you can send in an

[1:37:30] email

[1:37:33] he's talking about the purpose of the

[1:37:34] floor when people want to send in

[1:37:35] particular the floor they don't have to

[1:37:38] yes they can send in via email and

[1:37:40] subscribe what their concerns are so

[1:37:41] doing something similar with this

[1:37:45] so we have the majority of the council

[1:37:46] available on that date

[1:37:50] any other questions further discussion

[1:37:52] so I think some of the first five thirty

[1:37:55] to seven Target at the Boys and Girls

[1:37:56] Club education

[1:38:00] thank you

[1:38:01] any other questions for the discussion

[1:38:05] uh the final four items are property

[1:38:08] sales which you will have to go into

[1:38:10] executive sessions for

[1:38:12] as well as the recess government Ops

[1:38:16] so at this time I make motion we go into

[1:38:18] the second session all in favor

[1:38:21] um

Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting, November 7, 2022

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