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2023 and the first committee is
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claims I'd like to open claims um we
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have one item on the agenda um and uh
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we're going to need to discuss this item
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in executive session so I'd like to call
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for um a motion to go into executive
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session second all in favor I I okay so
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at this point in time uh all members of
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the public will have to leave and we'll
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call you back in after we uh finish our
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claims committee thank
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fure what the temperature of the town
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uh next we have um are you ready okay
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all right we have uh two presentations
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um miss
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starver good evening good evening our
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first on presentation will be from
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Better Community neighborhoods they'll
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be here presenting on the Ark of funds
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for the Hamilton Hill info project they
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previously submitted an extension
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request for the council so today's
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presentation hopefully will provide a
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little bit of clarity and support for
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that
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Amendment
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ready
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can those are for
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people on
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TV good you can hear me okay yeah okay
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hi I'm Chad kilborn I'm the president of
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the board of Better Community
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neighborhoods Incorporated and um I will
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talk through the um what we call the
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Hamilton Hill infill project which the
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arpa funds were allocated for then
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answer any of your questions and you
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want this to be like 5
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minutes
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oh well okay yeah yeah quick okay so
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the my grandfather always told me to be
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brief and be
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seated U all right so this we're talking
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about rehabbing 26 uh units all of them
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in Hamilton Hill all of them currently
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substandard uh along the streets um Page
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Street Germania and SKC Street and in um
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all of them are in the city households
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to be served to find us houss with
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incomes of 80% of area medium
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income so um what here's how I'm going
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to go through this I'm going to tell you
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what's happened so far and then where
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it's headed and then I'll answer your
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questions um thus far um BC and I had uh
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about a $200,000 Grant from the
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Enterprise Foundation to all the to do
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all the prep work which is required to
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get the big state money to come in to
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round the whole project out um um I I've
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worked with most of you on stuff before
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but not all of you so um you know as
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general context I would say what this
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starts with the federal government what
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the federal government set as guidelines
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and rules for funding affordable housing
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is incredibly complicated um and it
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takes a long time so all of that is
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within that context so so far um on
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those uh properties um with the
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Enterprise funds the site control has
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been achieved integrated pH physical
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needs assessment has been done by it
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looks like K building Consultants the
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environmental review was done by CT mail
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the is bestos Leed and radon testing was
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done by CT mail the certified property
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surveys was done by L cilene Associates
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the schematic design drawings were done
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by Troy architecture practice the shipo
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the historic preservation review um was
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done um the zoning analysis was done um
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and variances were granted bcni did that
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the market study analysis and property
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appraisals um the new market valuation
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Consultants that that that has been done
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by them the construction cost estimates
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were done by Christa the identification
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of the financing partner will be
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Community preservation corporations BC
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and I did that
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um
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um you know there are a couple different
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I'm a path to Victory guy and so you
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always have to figure out what pots of
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money does the state have and how are
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they going to do it I think we're this
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is going to track towards home ownership
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opportunity for most of the units um
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I'll talk more about that in a
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minute
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um all right so then the rest of this is
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now is
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all that's the key stuff that you need
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to know so the the funding secured to
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date um the Enterprise funds I mentioned
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is $194,000 $960 was that Grant with
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possibility for more Community Loan Fund
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of $84,200 the arpa friends from the
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city um Congressman Taco has uh advanced
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$750,000 in in um Congressional funds
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pending a um actual federal
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budget um and um all right now I don't
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need my notes anymore I can talk from
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here so from this point forward
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um the local foundations have come in
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we've have we have two offers from local
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foundations one of them for home
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ownership this is a softer one that
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would be north north of a half a million
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dollars another one a harder one which
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would be a seven figure Grant if we used
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all of the units to
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place um single mothers who
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with children who needed somewhere to go
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so this means we have you know this is
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kind of when you think back to how we
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got Boys and Girls Club done and uh
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Bethesda house funded it was City County
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working together with local foundations
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to identify a need get the right not for
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profit involved then allocate our
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resources strategically the state loves
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that they come in the state has said to
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us at this point we like the basis of
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this and um a lot of you have worked
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with Darren Scott who's the regional
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director of HCR for this part of the
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state he has said he's going to come and
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sit down and plot out which of the state
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pots is most ripe for this so um I think
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I should stop it's a lot of talking for
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me so I'll stop talking and answer your
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questions but I think where we are at
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this point is a lot of this Spade workor
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I read that whole boring list because
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it's all the stuff that um people in the
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public don't see but it's the
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prerequisite for the state to come in
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we've got all that done we have um the
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various different pots of local money
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lined up and the state is now saying
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yeah we like the trajectory this is
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going on we'll sit down and figure out
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um how you know which path to go down
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they have to rank and score them but if
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you think back to um the Craig Street
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project Hillside view um Mosaic which
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got funded in Mount Pleasant last year
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Bethesda house all those went through
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one or two applications and I think on
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um Hillside view it was actually the
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fourth time it was funded so I think
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where we are is the worst thing that can
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happen here is that maybe the state says
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apply here we apply once they don't fund
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it but they say here's what you do to
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get the points to get it over the Finish
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Line um all
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right it's a lot of minutia for me so
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I'll be quiet and answer your questions
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so what is your shortfall on funding for
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the project what is the overall cost of
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the project and what is the um what's
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the Gap in funding you know it's an
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affordable housing project so that
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number always moves
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around we're probably going to ask the
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state in the neighborhood of5 or $6
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million I would
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say for the total project for the state
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so I think total would be between eight
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and nine
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okay but I'm I'm doing I'm doing
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estimates because I mean when you do
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these affordable housing things until
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the
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closing
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there's no number
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okay so when would you know about the
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state
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funding um it depends what route would
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they go they have their own big
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um RFP they're getting ready to put out
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with with what they're calling home arpa
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money I actually think that's what they
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hired Kristen de to write and they're
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like more than 6 months behind schedule
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on issuing it so um um I you know they
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they the funding Cycles take six to n
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months they generally
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do
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okay and so I think part of the other
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thing is you're asking for an
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extension yeah I think yeah go ahead so
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so how long is the extension
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request sure I hear that's for a year
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all right so then what I would what
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request is for a year and then we work
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with Brian Lawler who was the state
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housing commissioner and did for 30
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years the closings for the state on
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these things um he's an expert on all of
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the rules so we would ask Brian to sit
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with um whoever you wanted him to sit
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with to make sure all the rules were
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followed and you know what I mean
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because you've got on the arpa funding
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you've got your set of rules from the
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treasur treasury has their set of rules
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yeah yeah yeah so I do I do think that
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with
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um your staff involvement and Brian's
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involvement Bri very good at making sure
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the rules are followed So within a year
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we we'd have a path the state
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would have it on a path so funing path
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that satisfied the rules well the rules
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are that it has to be allocated by the
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end of 2024 and then spent by the end of
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I'm confident we can figure that out
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other questions Mr Mr Williams Mr
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Williams to the C okay um so you would
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mind clar you said at one point that
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there were two different directions the
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project could go in one being home
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ownership and the other one single uh
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single mother households is that a
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decision that bcni has come to or are
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you still evaluating the funds that
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you're going to receive and does that
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affect the project
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scope that will have to a lot to do with
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the timing of what the state
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says they have funds available for sort
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of first second third and
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fourth I think that from my seat as
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president of the board of bcni and my
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seat at the foundation I think we have
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critical mass to do both over the next
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couple of years it's a matter of which
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funding path presents itself first we
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have a we have a need for both we have
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some government funding set up for both
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we have strong commitments from local
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foundations for both the another one of
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the tricks of these affordable housing
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projects is that um smaller is harder to
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do if you do 10 units it's harder to do
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than 60 units so we're talking about 26
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units here you know one thing we could
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do is break it and do you know 15 of one
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and 11 of another but that actually
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makes it harder to fund so we have to
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flesh that out with a state um does that
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answer your question absolutely yeah CU
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it's not it's not there's not um Clear
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Cut Black or
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White on some of the stuff so I will do
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the best I can to give you a correct
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answer yes and like with previous
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requests that we've had um in terms of
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the state funding and the point system
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that that Grant would go through is it
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your opinion that um obviously what we
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do here would help in terms of the
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points that you might need to approve
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from that state yeah I think I think
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there's two answers to that you know
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this is what we learned from the library
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branches from Boys and Girls Club from
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Bethesda house from bunch of the other
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projects they do have SC 0 to 100 they
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they give you points if you have um
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Foundation funny if you have City money
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if you have County money all of that
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counts but they also like it better they
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they you know I think what's motivating
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State officials to say we're going to
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come meet with you and figure out how to
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get this done as they see that skincity
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has started to be really successful at
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this Formula One and they see it coming
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together here and then you know once
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they do that they help you choose the
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path that's most likely to succeed which
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is why I feel comfortable that the worst
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thing that will happen is maybe the
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first application goes in uh like with
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Bethesda house and they came back and
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said we're not funding it this year but
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you're close and here's what we want you
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know if you do one two and three you'll
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get it over the Finish Line um and Kim
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Shepard and her team did a great job of
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doing
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that
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mayor thank you uh again this project in
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the Y W you know are getting some State
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attention they good projects uh our
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rapport with those agencies is very good
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you know the team that's here has uh
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good connections good track record and
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so I would recommend that some extension
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be given in this funding scenario it one
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of these things that puts us under
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pressure to get them done but at the
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same time pointed
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out we're not just uh going into a
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vacuum and the state weighs other
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projects across the
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state uh I think we're in a position to
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score very high uh in this in the things
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that we've done laning up to uh this
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application of this process where we've
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Consolidated uh two groups brought
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together under bcni it's the one
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uh time it's been done in the
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State uh the governor the legislature
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keeps talking about doing housing
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initiatives so there's some of the money
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that's on the table now and in the
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pipeline and there's going to be
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something in the next Governor's budget
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one way or the other I don't have any
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inclination what that is but we want to
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be positioned to Advocate and follow up
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on any opportunity that exists there so
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it's somewhat of a again a dynamic
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process but I think we're in Fairly good
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shape for a number of things that we're
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doing here and our track record of doing
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things in the past of actually being
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able to implement get things built get
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the construction done get the uh
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buildings open and get people moved into
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them I think the YWCA project that's
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been in three times but I think it's not
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a path to get funded now yes yeah
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I do have one one other tiny question um
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has the county contributed any money to
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um the project you mentioned so I've
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been in Asia for two weeks I'm fresh off
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the plane which is not a good use of the
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word fresh um I can't remember off the
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top of my head but Metroplex is going to
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come they're going to now that the
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state's coming they're going to come and
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figure out what what they have to do to
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help get it over the Finish
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Line um but does I can't do County have
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any money in yet no no thank but we'll
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they'll figure it out they'll be part of
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the solution thank Madam
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president the other feature of this in
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terms of the bigger impact is we've done
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projects of doing one where it's you
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know it's one building that's one site
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this is a number of houses throughout
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the neighborhood that it's a little bit
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more complicated to put it all together
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but the impact is going to be far
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greater in the overall transition and
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visual aspect that's going to happen
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within that's complet that's completely
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correct I know he brought some visuals
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off if you want oh you want to put up
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yeah this is sort of what the what the
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um all the prep work has yielded that's
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absolutely that's that's correct and and
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just to to pick up on the mayor's point
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you know most
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cities this is New York state right and
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we have Brooklyn in it we have the Bronx
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in Buffalo and most good
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most most cities of affordable housing
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is all about apartment buildings and
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most of the programs are designed for
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that kind of construction but for our
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city it's very much about single and two
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family homes and and taking fixing up
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these houses that have been vacated or
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left empty and so it does take a little
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longer to put the financing together
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that is part of it but we but the state
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recognizes that they're committed to it
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we will figure it out so here's a
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cluster here on Germania there's a
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cluster on uh SK Street and cluster on
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on page okay so this isn't all of them
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this is just sampling this is the
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sampling the pictures are just a sampl
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this just a sampling of the vacant so
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the VAC most of them are two family
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houses most them are two families just
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one single family I kind of like that
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for home ownership opportunity for
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first-time home buyers because if they
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then the person who buys the house as a
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firsttime home buyer that is someone who
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is for the maybe the first time in
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Generations creating an opportunity for
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the family to generate savings and
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wealth that can be passed on but if it's
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a two family home and we do it right the
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income they get from the other unit
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significantly helps make sure that they
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can keep that mortgage those mortgage
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payments coming and stick through it see
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it all the way through and would have
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impact that's another unique feature of
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this yeah so that's I mean right now I
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I'm kind of cheering for the home
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ownership opportunities for this if the
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state can do it fast enough because of
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what I just said so that's that is I do
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have that question are you planning on
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keeping any of those properties and then
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renting them to people and bcni
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remaining the owner proper I mean if if
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if if we go the home ownership route for
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these properties no if we go the route
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of um of developing them so that they
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are rented and they are rented for
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targeted population like for example
[56:50]
single mothers who need a place to go
[56:52]
those would be rentals that would DC and
[56:53]
I would manage and and they would have
[56:55]
like a u like the isshi program would
[56:58]
come in and fund some of that and there
[56:59]
would be an agreement with scap to
[57:01]
provide the services um and the and the
[57:03]
isshi money would would pay for
[57:05]
something like 65 75% of the
[57:08]
rent so um two paths okay all right Mr
[57:14]
Farley so I guess I'm pretty excited
[57:18]
about the ownership path like I'm I'm
[57:20]
sure that that's probably a little more
[57:22]
complicated um from what I'm got what
[57:25]
you're saying but I definitely think
[57:26]
that that that would be something that I
[57:28]
I would be more excited about as far as
[57:30]
Community impact um I know the federal
[57:32]
guidelines for like U uh lowincome
[57:36]
housing or is a bit dated um and I'm
[57:39]
just wondering is this is the state
[57:42]
guidelines the same as the federal
[57:43]
guidelines and how much autonomy do you
[57:46]
have in that as far as that process like
[57:48]
I know that they have been
[57:50]
um I don't know when the last time they
[57:52]
were updated but last I looked it was it
[57:53]
was it didn't seem like it was really uh
[57:56]
in line with
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um kind of today's world numbers I think
[58:01]
you always have to follow the federal
[58:02]
guidelines you guys agree yeah Federal
[58:04]
ground trunk the states if the states
[58:06]
want to do something so I think that
[58:09]
yeah I think the federal ground you have
[58:10]
to follow they probably are out of date
[58:13]
even though my official position is our
[58:14]
colleagues at the federal government are
[58:16]
great Americans and I support
[58:18]
them um it really comes into play when
[58:21]
you rent cuz then the rents have to be
[58:23]
set according to all those rules um when
[58:27]
you do home ownership it's less of an
[58:29]
issue uh because you're qualifying
[58:32]
people for mortgages and helping them
[58:34]
get down payment assistance and then
[58:35]
getting them into the home and then
[58:37]
their payment is based on the mortgage
[58:39]
um very often those mortgage payments
[58:41]
come out to be less than the rents do um
[58:44]
so I agree with you if we can figure out
[58:47]
how to make the home ownership
[58:49]
work that on this that would be great
[58:51]
but if we don't on this one we'll figure
[58:53]
it out on the next one it that that's
[58:55]
coming the the the feds have set that as
[58:58]
a policy priority it's showing up in a
[59:00]
lot of the grant programs where you get
[59:01]
extra points to do it um so we'll see
[59:04]
when the state comes if they say yeah
[59:06]
yeah you've got this this this the three
[59:08]
pots you can go for the incentives are
[59:10]
there for home ownership do it they'll
[59:11]
they'll help us figure out and how to
[59:14]
get it done and you know I hope we're
[59:16]
getting to a point where um the mayor
[59:19]
referenced the YWCA project you know I
[59:21]
feel like that may be the turning point
[59:24]
where we get to
[59:25]
where're connecti is now at a point
[59:27]
where we know we can make these things
[59:29]
happen even if it takes a few years we
[59:31]
have to be patient and persistent and
[59:32]
push through it sometimes people get mad
[59:35]
there are tempered TS and you know but
[59:37]
um we get we get around the corner where
[59:39]
we know what projects we want to do and
[59:41]
it's just a matter of figuring out which
[59:43]
one goes first second and third the
[59:44]
state helps us make sure it happens and
[59:46]
we're we're our track records pretty
[59:48]
good I mean we won Elmer Avenue we won
[59:50]
Mosaic recently they came back with a
[59:52]
good plan on the YWCA this scap campus
[59:55]
looks like it's on a good track State's
[59:57]
coming back and saying they like the
[59:58]
direction this is going so I think we
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can feel good about it one question yes
[1:00:04]
so um too long I'm sorry um it's good
[1:00:07]
information I'm so I guess my question
[1:00:10]
would be is how much of what are some of
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the other I mean I'm sure it depends on
[1:00:14]
which path you you know would go down
[1:00:18]
but could you share like some of the
[1:00:19]
other considerations being made as far
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as like outside of income um who would
[1:00:25]
be uh would be your targeted population
[1:00:28]
um and I'm asking that question just for
[1:00:30]
clarity around like um are we looking at
[1:00:34]
um what are some of the other factors
[1:00:36]
that are are kind of calculations that
[1:00:38]
are made to see like who's who Le this
[1:00:40]
type of housing would be accessible to
[1:00:42]
yeah I mean the plain reality is
[1:00:44]
unfortunately we have to react to what
[1:00:49]
the funding streams tell us to do so
[1:00:53]
when we do things like like Elmer Avenue
[1:00:55]
or Renaissance square or mosaic um those
[1:00:58]
projects are all tax credit projects and
[1:01:01]
tax credit projects by law have to be
[1:01:03]
rentals period and a discussion we don't
[1:01:06]
have any choice and so if you're going
[1:01:08]
to do a you know conversion of a of a
[1:01:11]
white elephant old school that's empty
[1:01:13]
and it's going to be 60 units you're
[1:01:14]
kind of stuck with tax credits there you
[1:01:16]
are um that's a so that's a reason why I
[1:01:21]
kind of agree with you if we could go
[1:01:22]
down the home ownership path here that
[1:01:24]
would be great because this is an
[1:01:25]
opportunity to do that and we're not
[1:01:26]
doing a tax credit project that
[1:01:28]
prohibits it um in the ca you know we
[1:01:32]
have groups like young parents United
[1:01:36]
tesda house they tell us that we have a
[1:01:39]
demographic need to deal with homeless
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on a bunch of levels and so we do our
[1:01:45]
best to try to get that I mean you know
[1:01:48]
um the bethesa house project
[1:01:50]
took four four years in you know it's
[1:01:55]
probably longer than it should take but
[1:01:57]
we got it other communities didn't get
[1:01:59]
it and and did it because Bethesda house
[1:02:03]
needed to double their capacity to House
[1:02:06]
people coming out of the homeless sector
[1:02:07]
so I think you know I think for the root
[1:02:09]
for the um young families that need
[1:02:12]
somewhere to go we know we have that
[1:02:13]
need and we will figure out one way or
[1:02:15]
another how to do it and we have um
[1:02:17]
already a couple of State commitments
[1:02:19]
for isi to do that and we have a local
[1:02:21]
Foundation ready to do that and the
[1:02:22]
state has already said okay then
[1:02:24]
that's that's the connected formula for
[1:02:26]
Success we will help you figure it out
[1:02:29]
I'm I'm sorry to your time just I have
[1:02:32]
one other question uh so regarding the
[1:02:35]
the projects that you're doing um
[1:02:36]
assuming part of this will be doing the
[1:02:38]
sidewalks that are around these
[1:02:39]
properties or um I I think in she's
[1:02:45]
asking whether the sidewalks are
[1:02:47]
included in the funding for this and I
[1:02:49]
don't know I'm going to turn to the
[1:02:50]
staff off the top of my head I believe
[1:02:53]
they are but I I can't be 100% sure but
[1:02:55]
I do believe that that was part of that
[1:02:58]
okay when we did the last things uh when
[1:03:01]
we did the surgy project we did all the
[1:03:04]
sidewalks as well so I do believe that's
[1:03:07]
that's part of it but I can certainly
[1:03:10]
get back to you specifics if you like
[1:03:12]
yes I would thank you
[1:03:15]
pleas more questions um if you could
[1:03:19]
though just all the information that you
[1:03:20]
gave us today in terms of the funding
[1:03:22]
Etc if you could provide that to us in
[1:03:23]
writing so that the entire all right so
[1:03:26]
I think Alex has like a 40 page thing
[1:03:28]
that's shows all the um the boring stuff
[1:03:31]
that was done and then we can get you a
[1:03:32]
summary too yes unless people want to 40
[1:03:36]
page you can you know if you have
[1:03:37]
insomia it's a great C thank you for
[1:03:50]
coming our second presentation is the
[1:03:53]
Coco house we have the executive
[1:03:55]
director real bz with us the COC house
[1:03:59]
previously um submitted an amendment
[1:04:01]
that included a change in the use of
[1:04:03]
funding so today he will be presenting
[1:04:06]
um and providing Clarity to the Council
[1:04:08]
on the use of fund
[1:04:10]
change thank
[1:04:22]
you to take one pass down
[1:04:25]
you you're welcome do you need
[1:04:34]
this all right I'll take one just in
[1:04:36]
case okay fair enough thank you you're
[1:04:38]
welcome pretty
[1:04:47]
sure okay thank
[1:04:50]
you hello thank you guys uh my name is
[1:04:53]
William Reas um executive director of
[1:04:54]
coc house what you have in your hand is
[1:04:56]
a brief presentation on the uh ARA
[1:04:59]
project um the beginning um only we
[1:05:02]
submitted uh the purpose was we were
[1:05:04]
looking to get the funding so that we
[1:05:06]
could uh complete the purchase of exra
[1:05:09]
property so that we could expand program
[1:05:11]
um in that time uh what we were able to
[1:05:14]
do with the help of uh the Metroplex
[1:05:17]
community landbank and R fund and some
[1:05:19]
other supporters we were actually able
[1:05:21]
to raise the money to complete uh the
[1:05:24]
funding needed to execute our program um
[1:05:26]
our project so as of right now uh the
[1:05:29]
new C house team Empowerment Center 867
[1:05:31]
sing Street my old childhood home um is
[1:05:34]
due to be completed on October 30th of
[1:05:37]
this year um interesting enough uh you
[1:05:41]
stop right there um is that
[1:05:44]
tomorrow couple
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weeks October
[1:05:49]
30 yes so um you should get ready to be
[1:05:53]
there during this project what we've
[1:05:55]
learned is uh in the very beginning I
[1:05:57]
had really lofty goals my goal was to
[1:05:59]
raise
[1:06:01]
$250,000 and put it in the hands of the
[1:06:03]
community um through local contractors
[1:06:06]
who would hire local workers and they
[1:06:08]
would train uh local youth you know that
[1:06:10]
was my goal my the intent being um to
[1:06:13]
make sure that the funding for the
[1:06:15]
project was going back directly to the
[1:06:17]
community and we did that you know we we
[1:06:20]
tried to go that route and it was uh a
[1:06:22]
task um I like to think that throughout
[1:06:25]
this process I learned a lot about uh
[1:06:28]
development contracts and a lot of stuff
[1:06:31]
I just really had no clue about um we've
[1:06:33]
gone through two contractors we're our
[1:06:36]
third contractor right now uh NPR
[1:06:39]
locally um and as of right now the front
[1:06:41]
porch and the back porch has have been
[1:06:43]
completed and inspected they both passed
[1:06:45]
um as of right now um and you can kind
[1:06:48]
of scroll down um these are the plans
[1:06:51]
the original plans for the project uh
[1:06:54]
so 20 years ago Rachel had an idea of
[1:06:58]
connecting both houses when I took over
[1:06:59]
Copa house uh 5 years ago I I looked at
[1:07:02]
that and understood that that was going
[1:07:04]
to be quite the task so what we did was
[1:07:06]
we decided to next slide morce please uh
[1:07:09]
to connect them through the porch um the
[1:07:11]
reason why I thought this was a good
[1:07:13]
idea was um in understanding what that
[1:07:17]
neighborhood used to be um specifically
[1:07:20]
my house
[1:07:22]
um I wanted to build something that
[1:07:24]
would last uh for the Youth in the
[1:07:26]
community and would serve as an
[1:07:28]
inspiration to the kid to attend uh
[1:07:31]
Martin Luther King school and just youth
[1:07:33]
who live in our community um you can go
[1:07:35]
to next slide
[1:07:37]
please uh the next few slides are
[1:07:39]
pictures of the process and where we're
[1:07:41]
at so that first slide you'll see is the
[1:07:43]
very beginning 5 years ago uh those
[1:07:45]
young men in blue shirts those are seats
[1:07:47]
out so keeping up with the theme that
[1:07:49]
from the very beginning my intent was to
[1:07:51]
take this money raise and put it
[1:07:54]
directly back into the hands of the
[1:07:55]
community in training and funding and in
[1:07:58]
jobs uh that second slide you see Union
[1:08:01]
college students uh here you see Brian
[1:08:03]
from the seat Center again as we're
[1:08:05]
going through this process there were
[1:08:08]
three breaks in the project that really
[1:08:11]
were out of our hands one being co uh
[1:08:14]
which you know there was really nothing
[1:08:15]
we could do um we did have to let go of
[1:08:20]
a contractor because the work wasn't up
[1:08:22]
the par and in that process we brought
[1:08:24]
on this great group um who as you can
[1:08:27]
see the transition from the third and
[1:08:29]
fourth slides you can see the project
[1:08:32]
took shape literally overnight um all
[1:08:34]
the siding was gone all the roofing was
[1:08:36]
gone all brand new shingles and as of
[1:08:39]
right now this last slide you'll see
[1:08:41]
this is the brand new porch and this is
[1:08:43]
the inside as of this time last week the
[1:08:46]
insulation is up right now the sheet
[1:08:48]
rock is inside and the walls are ready
[1:08:50]
to go up we have all the plumbing
[1:08:51]
purchased um the group that that we have
[1:08:54]
now working with NPR they actually work
[1:08:56]
six six days they work Monday through
[1:08:59]
Saturday rafie and his team are
[1:09:00]
absolutely amazing um the request came
[1:09:04]
for us to Pivot for the arpa because
[1:09:08]
what I realized throughout this project
[1:09:09]
was it's been 25 years and coko house
[1:09:11]
never had a full-time staff coko house
[1:09:14]
has survived solely for 25 years off of
[1:09:17]
volunteers so what I thought about um
[1:09:20]
this time last year that's my wife with
[1:09:22]
the kids was that we have this great big
[1:09:25]
project and it's going to get done and
[1:09:28]
we're going to have this program space
[1:09:29]
but we need staff we need people from
[1:09:32]
the community to hire to work with these
[1:09:34]
youths people that we can train and that
[1:09:36]
we can pay pay adequately um because
[1:09:38]
again the pivot with the article was
[1:09:41]
that we raised the money for the
[1:09:42]
building and but we're still putting
[1:09:44]
money back into the community uh the
[1:09:46]
money the pivot for us is really is
[1:09:48]
taking this money and hiring uh local
[1:09:50]
families um because what we're also
[1:09:52]
doing which I I took a lot of stuff
[1:09:55]
context out the slide is uh what's also
[1:09:57]
going to be in this program is we're
[1:09:59]
building the first Broadview financial
[1:10:01]
literacy Center in the Hamilton Hill so
[1:10:05]
Broad View we have a partnership with
[1:10:07]
them in which they're going to provide
[1:10:08]
financially literacy classes to the
[1:10:10]
community to families and youth as well
[1:10:13]
um because we believe it's uh important
[1:10:15]
to have a financial institution like
[1:10:17]
Broadview to invest long-term education
[1:10:20]
financial literacy courses and
[1:10:22]
opportunities for people that in our
[1:10:24]
community uh why amend a contract we've
[1:10:26]
already raised the money needed to
[1:10:28]
complete a 67 projects 60,000 from the
[1:10:30]
city of SKC thank you guys uh C for the
[1:10:33]
cdbg 60,000 from Metroplex 50,000 from
[1:10:36]
Community landbank 25,000 from Amber
[1:10:38]
mother fund uh and we are due to be
[1:10:41]
completed like I said at the end of the
[1:10:42]
month grand opening of the first week of
[1:10:45]
November we have raised the money to
[1:10:47]
complete the community Green Space
[1:10:48]
Project Union College student jesselin
[1:10:50]
was awarded 9,000 for the project in
[1:10:52]
2022 that is due to be completed first
[1:10:55]
week of November as well uh we have
[1:10:57]
currently met with and there is an
[1:10:59]
agreement in place for the purchases of
[1:11:01]
28 Sten in place for them to donate it
[1:11:04]
to Coco house should the purchase go
[1:11:06]
through at which time we will demolish
[1:11:08]
the property and add it to our community
[1:11:10]
Green Space on the corner and we have
[1:11:11]
already have a letter of intent that's
[1:11:13]
been approved and agreed upon with the
[1:11:15]
SKC Foundation uh should 28 St Bend be
[1:11:18]
secure and given it to C house we have
[1:11:20]
the money in place for the demolition at
[1:11:23]
this time biggest need for the expansion
[1:11:25]
of the program and the services we
[1:11:26]
provide and want to continue to provide
[1:11:28]
our staff to be on site and available to
[1:11:30]
the youth and the families we serve on a
[1:11:32]
regular basis um the reason being is for
[1:11:36]
20 years we have served younger kids we
[1:11:39]
have served a younger generation and
[1:11:41]
with the expansion uh we're going to be
[1:11:43]
working into uh larger population uh
[1:11:46]
families older youth teens and we want
[1:11:49]
to make sure that we have services on
[1:11:51]
site readily available uh for the
[1:11:54]
people that we're going be working with
[1:11:55]
to have access to on a regular basis so
[1:11:58]
uh what does this look like um increase
[1:12:00]
in wages from so for 2023 we'll spend
[1:12:03]
$30,000 in wages um we're looking to
[1:12:06]
increase that to
[1:12:07]
$200,000 $70,000 for a full-time
[1:12:10]
executive director 50,000 for a
[1:12:12]
part-time director 30,000 for a program
[1:12:14]
assistant and 50,000 for program staff
[1:12:17]
up to 2 and three part-time staff
[1:12:19]
currently uh $30,000 in wages 15,000 in
[1:12:23]
occup cost 5,000 program and direct cost
[1:12:26]
$220,000 in administrative expenses uh
[1:12:30]
we get a lot of support from the
[1:12:31]
community Union College is really great
[1:12:33]
about helping us out with supplies food
[1:12:35]
and stuff for the program um throughout
[1:12:37]
the week um during the summertime we
[1:12:39]
have to raise the money to make sure we
[1:12:41]
ensure that um here's a nice long thank
[1:12:43]
you list um of everyone who's really
[1:12:46]
been a part of this project for the last
[1:12:48]
5 years since I've been a part of it and
[1:12:50]
uh again we would not be where we are at
[1:12:53]
this point Point um at a point of
[1:12:55]
completion and grand opening and uh you
[1:12:58]
know I'm thankful to say that this is
[1:13:01]
actually going to get done and I'm glad
[1:13:03]
that you guys are all a part of it thank
[1:13:05]
you well questions well first of all let
[1:13:09]
me just commend you on the work that
[1:13:10]
you've completed it's pretty substantial
[1:13:12]
and admirable and so I know you sent me
[1:13:14]
one picture but there's a lot more
[1:13:16]
that's been done since then so I I want
[1:13:18]
to just say cl to you and everyone that
[1:13:20]
works with you to get this done and um
[1:13:22]
get it to this point so thank you for
[1:13:25]
that and morce if you could go back to
[1:13:26]
the next slide CU I um I do have some
[1:13:29]
questions right there all right so
[1:13:32]
currently the 30,000 wages um I
[1:13:35]
understand what is the 20,000
[1:13:37]
administrative expenses could you
[1:13:38]
explain with that deal is yeah uh we
[1:13:41]
have uh services that we utilize lawyer
[1:13:45]
uh
[1:13:46]
training um insurance is cost like that
[1:13:49]
oh okay okay and so
[1:13:54]
your your initial ask from from us was
[1:13:57]
from city council was I believe the
[1:13:59]
original ask was 1.5 million over 5
[1:14:02]
years um and that it was adapted to
[1:14:05]
500,000 so you've lowered the request is
[1:14:08]
that what you say no I didn't lower the
[1:14:10]
quest it was when it was sent to us it
[1:14:12]
was lower oh okay okay so 5,000 was what
[1:14:14]
we allocated gotcha okay and so you're
[1:14:17]
asking us to
[1:14:19]
do could you break it down over the
[1:14:21]
years yes so the way we looked at it is
[1:14:24]
uh larger amount the first year and
[1:14:26]
gradually scale off 200,000 200,000
[1:14:29]
100,000 uh the third year um the reason
[1:14:32]
being with our growing capacity what we
[1:14:34]
found is we have access to more grants
[1:14:36]
and stuff outside the C because we're
[1:14:38]
offering more program um what's really
[1:14:41]
been great about this process is uh we
[1:14:43]
found a way to sustain our program and
[1:14:45]
grow it without stepping on the toes of
[1:14:47]
any other the other programs of what
[1:14:49]
they're doing we found ways to
[1:14:50]
collaborate partner um and find find
[1:14:54]
Space where we can all being part of
[1:14:56]
this connected youth Coalition being
[1:14:57]
part of the 22 youth organizations we're
[1:15:00]
supporting each other so we're not
[1:15:02]
recreating program that's going to take
[1:15:03]
away from other programs what we're
[1:15:05]
finding is that we're all sustaining by
[1:15:07]
we're serving the same same families and
[1:15:09]
same kids but there are still some
[1:15:11]
things that we can do differently and
[1:15:13]
ways that we can work together so by
[1:15:15]
stepping to this Niche working with the
[1:15:16]
older kids um we're fting is there's a
[1:15:19]
generation of Youth who just for some
[1:15:20]
reason um they just you know as many as
[1:15:23]
we have they tend to not come sometimes
[1:15:26]
it's it's mental health sometimes it's
[1:15:27]
sub sometimes it's just for decision
[1:15:29]
making so we have found a space where we
[1:15:32]
can uh work with everyone to provide the
[1:15:34]
best service
[1:15:36]
possible thank you yes ma'am
[1:15:39]
um go go Miss pck okay yeah sure so
[1:15:44]
first I want to Echo um uh president
[1:15:46]
Porterfield uh uh congratulatory words
[1:15:50]
around what you've been able to
[1:15:51]
accomplish thus far um I really would
[1:15:54]
like to see more nonprofits not only um
[1:15:57]
you know make that type of investment to
[1:16:00]
serve youth but then when you when you
[1:16:02]
kind of compound the fact that you're
[1:16:04]
making an investment back into the
[1:16:06]
community um that's something that I
[1:16:08]
wish a lot more nonprofits had that did
[1:16:10]
that model um so I just want to say
[1:16:11]
that's really important as far as it
[1:16:13]
speaks of sustainability um and if I'm
[1:16:16]
understanding correctly it's like um
[1:16:18]
this will not only help you serve the
[1:16:20]
youth that you serve now but you be able
[1:16:23]
to kind of expand upon that and also
[1:16:26]
that you know influx of resources what
[1:16:28]
because I'm sure as being a executive
[1:16:31]
director you're doing a lot of different
[1:16:33]
things um a lot of you know so you're
[1:16:36]
saying it's parttime but we all know we
[1:16:38]
work with you we know it's full-time
[1:16:39]
right so um I so I imagine that you you
[1:16:43]
could see that expanding your ability to
[1:16:46]
um go after more funding right Your
[1:16:49]
Capacity to do so so even within this
[1:16:51]
it's not you know there's some
[1:16:52]
sustainability to that with things up
[1:16:54]
okay I just want to be clear about that
[1:16:55]
that's that was the goal long term um we
[1:16:58]
planned this was to what we found was
[1:17:01]
with the UN with um Coco house we have
[1:17:04]
kids who age out and sixth seventh grade
[1:17:07]
and then you know boys and girls plus
[1:17:09]
phal I think the great thing about sa
[1:17:11]
connected we don't La for resources but
[1:17:14]
we always find those kids who find
[1:17:16]
themselves kind of in between so what we
[1:17:18]
thought about in this process was well
[1:17:19]
what if we can create uh job
[1:17:21]
sustainability long term we can take
[1:17:23]
some of these kids we can put them in a
[1:17:25]
team program we can educate them on how
[1:17:27]
to work with the younger kids and again
[1:17:29]
you know we have the summer youth
[1:17:30]
program we have all these different
[1:17:32]
programs that we have the ability to
[1:17:33]
work with let's create more
[1:17:35]
opportunities for youth like myself
[1:17:37]
because again without r a gram I'm not
[1:17:40]
the executive director of C- so if we
[1:17:42]
can take more use and more opportunities
[1:17:44]
and more intentional investment long
[1:17:46]
term we can create more opportunities to
[1:17:48]
get some of these kids off these corners
[1:17:50]
and do some phenomenal things in these
[1:17:52]
programs because they can reach their
[1:17:54]
friends better than we
[1:17:56]
can you have question I do so this
[1:17:59]
obviously the the um rer funding from
[1:18:02]
the city is completely about Staffing
[1:18:05]
and Sals so what will be your capacity
[1:18:09]
around um you know the programs I mean
[1:18:12]
in terms of uh no I'm I'm glad you asked
[1:18:15]
so right now uh with just volunteers my
[1:18:18]
wife who's sitting on the hallway um
[1:18:20]
prior to co we were operating at full
[1:18:22]
capacity 35 you a day prior to co once
[1:18:26]
Co hit uh of course we had numbers had
[1:18:28]
to drop and then after that um you know
[1:18:31]
the school district opened up their
[1:18:33]
after school program again which kinds
[1:18:35]
of change the dynamic and again we're
[1:18:37]
not in competition for to serve the
[1:18:39]
Youth of our community we're looking to
[1:18:41]
come across and work with each other so
[1:18:43]
uh we partner with the school district
[1:18:44]
and we find local families who are in
[1:18:46]
need of you know so this with the team
[1:18:48]
program opening up the way we have it
[1:18:50]
set up we have the capacity to take on
[1:18:52]
another 30 35 you per day
[1:18:55]
and um so do you find that the 30 to 35
[1:18:59]
students per day are um consistent the
[1:19:02]
same students or are you
[1:19:04]
seeing no it's it's changed right now
[1:19:06]
that we just opened up uh first day was
[1:19:09]
today and I think we had uh I believe
[1:19:11]
our numbers were 10 but this is our
[1:19:13]
first day opening up and again the
[1:19:14]
school district is running they have
[1:19:16]
school B 5 days a week so you know we're
[1:19:18]
not looking to really compete with them
[1:19:20]
but we're looking to create a a
[1:19:23]
situation to reach those hard to reach
[1:19:25]
youth specifically um because we really
[1:19:28]
feel like that's where we can do the
[1:19:30]
most good um anybody that that wants to
[1:19:33]
come to cop house of course is welcome
[1:19:34]
and that's really where this uh
[1:19:37]
situation was driven from is because we
[1:19:39]
had youth coming back seventh and eighth
[1:19:41]
grade and they had no program to go to
[1:19:43]
because they got kicked out and it's not
[1:19:45]
because they're bad kids but maybe the
[1:19:47]
people at the program didn't understand
[1:19:48]
how to deal with them we've been working
[1:19:50]
with them for four or 5 years now what
[1:19:52]
do we do do we turn turn the youth away
[1:19:53]
no we intentionally create a space so
[1:19:55]
that they can come back because that
[1:19:57]
investment long term it keeps them out
[1:19:59]
of trouble and it keeps them engage in
[1:20:01]
the community work that we
[1:20:02]
do Mr to um MZ um the document you
[1:20:06]
submit to us with regards to this
[1:20:08]
amendment you are and looking at the
[1:20:10]
salary line you have $600,000 over 3
[1:20:13]
years what are your plan to sustain it
[1:20:16]
into the fourth year what's our plan yes
[1:20:19]
okay so again as we expect it's cool I
[1:20:21]
was pray for that um as EX stand program
[1:20:24]
um what's been great is uh I I've gone
[1:20:26]
to a couple national conferences um the
[1:20:30]
geof funders was one in Chicago in which
[1:20:32]
we met national uh funders who there's
[1:20:35]
there's more money available and I think
[1:20:36]
a lot of that was kind of what moved our
[1:20:40]
Innovation right we found that there's a
[1:20:42]
lot of youth programs in the city of
[1:20:44]
skincity and we're kind of all going to
[1:20:46]
the connecting Foundation into the city
[1:20:48]
for the same money to serve really the
[1:20:50]
same kids which is not sustainable for
[1:20:52]
you guys it's not sustainable to the
[1:20:53]
concy foundation so in creating a a new
[1:20:56]
and Innovative program it allowed us to
[1:20:58]
start to tap into some uh the naal
[1:21:01]
National mentorship Alliance Mentor New
[1:21:03]
York in which you know and we have some
[1:21:07]
um funders uh that are kind of waiting
[1:21:11]
for uh this piece to get off the ground
[1:21:14]
so that was the big thing was is we had
[1:21:16]
some funders in place uh two years ago
[1:21:19]
but our timeline got pushed back because
[1:21:21]
the project kind of didn't sustain so
[1:21:24]
because of that we had to kind of um
[1:21:26]
pivot our approach and uh focus on
[1:21:29]
getting the project done before we could
[1:21:30]
start to ask some of our wealthy friends
[1:21:32]
for
[1:21:33]
money so so just a p so you mentioned
[1:21:36]
that their fundings out there yes and
[1:21:39]
you are T you're going to be tapping
[1:21:40]
into these agencies yes is it possible
[1:21:42]
that you can send us a list of the
[1:21:44]
agency that you are going to be working
[1:21:45]
with
[1:21:50]
in Mr Williams uh definitely again I
[1:21:53]
think it's I appreciate the presentation
[1:21:55]
and also the work that you're doing I
[1:21:56]
think it's safe to say that this project
[1:21:58]
and what you've been able to achieve so
[1:22:00]
far actually reflects the tant of what
[1:22:03]
our community is uh working together
[1:22:05]
more collaboratively and more
[1:22:06]
effectively so using and employing the
[1:22:08]
seat Center which made me smile and
[1:22:10]
tapping into Union College it's very
[1:22:12]
very um good to hear uh definitely I
[1:22:15]
think the sustainability is a strong
[1:22:17]
consideration the last thing we want to
[1:22:19]
do is fund positions that are then going
[1:22:20]
to be dissolved in the next year year or
[1:22:22]
two um uh my question resounded around
[1:22:27]
so if ever the ask came back to the city
[1:22:29]
do you have job descriptions just
[1:22:30]
clearly outlining what the duties of
[1:22:32]
each role are because any year working
[1:22:34]
we are absolutely working on those now U
[1:22:37]
the interesting thing about this in in
[1:22:38]
see down spread you kind of alluded to
[1:22:40]
this is it was the hardest thing to not
[1:22:43]
give a update on progress and not put
[1:22:45]
anything on social media because I felt
[1:22:48]
in all honesty I'm being honest I felt
[1:22:50]
like I had let everyone down because the
[1:22:51]
project I pushed back so many times um
[1:22:54]
we had a lofty goal and we had a
[1:22:56]
timeline set and when uh we came into
[1:22:59]
barrier after barrier it was frustra and
[1:23:02]
so what happened was is our Focus just
[1:23:05]
became strictly getting this building
[1:23:07]
done and then building everything else
[1:23:10]
kind of really around it and now we that
[1:23:12]
we have the right people in place we
[1:23:14]
have the timeline in front of us it's
[1:23:15]
allowed us to go back and focus on those
[1:23:17]
things which are incredibly important
[1:23:19]
because again to create sustainability
[1:23:21]
again like you know
[1:23:23]
talking about is we have to have those
[1:23:25]
things in place very clear dialogue very
[1:23:27]
clear program outlines um and I want to
[1:23:30]
flesh those out but my priority right
[1:23:33]
now is just getting this building done
[1:23:34]
because I just felt like so much was
[1:23:36]
riding on it thank you but I can send
[1:23:39]
them over to you it's not a problem
[1:23:41]
appreciate actually if you send m m
[1:23:43]
she'll make sure the en account for no
[1:23:45]
problem thank you Mr yes Mr Harley so I
[1:23:48]
so um just listening to kind of your
[1:23:50]
response to to Mr Williams I I think
[1:23:52]
that
[1:23:53]
um and kind of also to your point Mr
[1:23:54]
manian I think if I'm understanding it
[1:23:57]
correctly part of the the sustainability
[1:23:59]
is really growing Your Capacity to seek
[1:24:02]
funding cuz I think a lot of times we
[1:24:03]
have some of our smaller nonprofits that
[1:24:05]
make really really big impacts but
[1:24:07]
necessarily don't have like a
[1:24:08]
development office if you will right so
[1:24:10]
I so so so just you know as city council
[1:24:13]
we're we're moving to try to be more
[1:24:15]
Equitable in approach that we do things
[1:24:16]
including funding um so I think it was
[1:24:18]
just I just invited my council members
[1:24:20]
to consider that as well that part of
[1:24:21]
some of this is Su of the sustainability
[1:24:23]
plan is about giving um some of the
[1:24:25]
smaller nonprofits that make big impacts
[1:24:27]
opportunities to grow um and that would
[1:24:30]
kind of uh help sustain them along the
[1:24:31]
way and we're actually we're working
[1:24:33]
with uh Bob and the sky Foundation to
[1:24:36]
grow exactly that we're actually working
[1:24:39]
on growing a nonprofit incubator in the
[1:24:41]
city of skty where nonprofits smaller
[1:24:44]
nonprofits who order a certain budget
[1:24:46]
can actually have access to grant
[1:24:48]
writing and development services without
[1:24:50]
the the overhead cost that
[1:24:53]
that's been a part of this process in
[1:24:54]
the background that we've all really
[1:24:55]
been working on because it's not to when
[1:24:58]
you look at this approach I I know it
[1:24:59]
looks like it's a lot of money it's like
[1:25:01]
you know what's the dollar verse impact
[1:25:03]
when we talk about the work that we've
[1:25:04]
already done and the work we're going to
[1:25:06]
be committed to doing um when we show
[1:25:08]
the development model that everybody all
[1:25:11]
the nonprofits in the city of this conc
[1:25:13]
are to be able to access these
[1:25:14]
development approaches it's going to
[1:25:16]
make it sustainable for everyone long
[1:25:18]
term well I mean just to Echo what Mr
[1:25:21]
Farley is saying I guess I'd have to
[1:25:22]
also say I know that in your um Vision
[1:25:25]
here that you're going to revamp the
[1:25:27]
board of directors and activate them yes
[1:25:29]
we and then in terms of you know
[1:25:31]
full-time executive director I mean
[1:25:33]
obviously that would be a huge part of
[1:25:36]
the executive director's role will be
[1:25:37]
going out and continuing to look for
[1:25:39]
money um and that's why the program
[1:25:42]
people um would be you know working with
[1:25:44]
the youth Etc but the board's going to
[1:25:46]
have to you know also have influence our
[1:25:52]
just joined our board so so we've
[1:25:55]
actually we revamped our board totally
[1:25:57]
in last year or so um to really maximize
[1:26:00]
the potential on Vision again um January
[1:26:03]
13th we're going to be doing our 25th
[1:26:04]
anniversary fundraiser at uh Union
[1:26:07]
College so again there's a lot of
[1:26:09]
intentional pieces that are tied into
[1:26:10]
this but again to be mindful of the time
[1:26:13]
I really stripped a lot
[1:26:16]
out well congratulations on getting the
[1:26:18]
building that's the building done is
[1:26:21]
amazing it is thank you very much no
[1:26:23]
more questions no yes there is yes ma'am
[1:26:26]
so you um in terms of the salary mhm you
[1:26:29]
um
[1:26:30]
so you um are wanting to spend uh all of
[1:26:34]
the arpa money like right up front um
[1:26:37]
however you did mention that you had
[1:26:38]
other opportunities for funding so um is
[1:26:43]
there any way for um it's 500,000 so
[1:26:47]
over 3 years you could it could be a
[1:26:49]
little bit less is there any way for you
[1:26:51]
or have you considered making getting
[1:26:53]
some of that other funding in place or
[1:26:55]
leveraging the funding this funding to
[1:26:57]
get some of that other funding in place
[1:26:58]
so it's not all the AR money spent yes
[1:27:01]
right at time so is that a possibility
[1:27:04]
something you consider yes that that's
[1:27:06]
why we're doing 25th anniversary
[1:27:07]
fundraising January 13th uh I was kind
[1:27:10]
of planning
[1:27:11]
for um because again we we've had lofty
[1:27:14]
requests and our timeline was pushed
[1:27:16]
back so again to be mindful and
[1:27:18]
respectful of the council in the city
[1:27:20]
and everyone else I'm I've been we've
[1:27:22]
been committed to doing the work first
[1:27:25]
ahead of time because it shows that
[1:27:28]
again we're trying to be collaborative
[1:27:29]
so you know we do have some
[1:27:31]
conversations in place about some
[1:27:32]
outside funding again the bigger thing
[1:27:34]
was getting the building done because
[1:27:36]
once I have the building then I can go
[1:27:38]
back to some of my funders and say Hey
[1:27:40]
listen we're ready to start program on
[1:27:41]
this date so that allows us to get some
[1:27:44]
of that other funding in place but the
[1:27:46]
building piece was really the
[1:27:47]
Cornerstone to locking all that stuff in
[1:27:50]
but again planning out the fundraiser
[1:27:52]
planning out on some online stuff as
[1:27:54]
well we do
[1:27:56]
have yes Mr T hi well thank you Mary so
[1:28:01]
um you mentioned there were 22 other
[1:28:03]
youth organizations here in the city
[1:28:05]
part of connected youth Coalition here
[1:28:07]
right um is there anyone I know where
[1:28:10]
your heart is I really do is there any
[1:28:12]
other one of those 22 that you can
[1:28:14]
collaborate with that's doing kind of
[1:28:16]
the same thing you're doing um bring
[1:28:18]
them on
[1:28:19]
or you hear what I'm saying we're
[1:28:22]
collaborating with all of you that's the
[1:28:24]
purpose of theate Coalition but as far
[1:28:26]
as the
[1:28:27]
funding we're all in the same boat
[1:28:29]
that's that's why we formed this
[1:28:31]
connected youth coalition to not stress
[1:28:34]
overstress our budgets our staff our
[1:28:36]
capacity um and to Not Duplicate
[1:28:38]
Services you know so that's also the
[1:28:41]
purpose of I don't know you know if you
[1:28:43]
guys were part of the uh SKC Foundation
[1:28:46]
they had they hired the group from
[1:28:47]
Atlanta that was the feedback that came
[1:28:50]
back that we have all these organiz
[1:28:52]
ation doing this great work and there's
[1:28:53]
not enough funding for everyone so in
[1:28:56]
creating this nonprofit incubator the
[1:28:58]
intention is is so that we can actually
[1:29:00]
shorten our budgets and extend our
[1:29:02]
capacity by everybody having access to
[1:29:05]
Brand writers and development offices
[1:29:07]
that's that's the point because the
[1:29:08]
truth is there no one can really sustain
[1:29:11]
what the funding we're receive we're
[1:29:12]
already doing the best we can absolutely
[1:29:16]
other questions comments anybody any
[1:29:18]
more information so if you could just um
[1:29:21]
like for information that that was asked
[1:29:23]
for today um and then you move forward
[1:29:26]
from there so thank you very much for
[1:29:29]
coming and again impressive the work
[1:29:30]
that you have done in terms of
[1:29:32]
revitalizing those buildings which in
[1:29:34]
turn revitalizes the neighborhood so
[1:29:36]
appreciate the work that you're doing
[1:29:38]
thank you very much thank
[1:29:49]
you okay
[1:29:55]
uh next committee is Public Safety I'd
[1:29:58]
like to call the order of Public Safety
[1:30:00]
Committee we have five items on the
[1:30:01]
agenda tonight first of which will be
[1:30:04]
discussed by Chief Clifford that is the
[1:30:05]
opioid settlement funds
[1:30:08]
he's right here I guess we can he
[1:30:20]
is
[1:30:22]
apologize for that no problem okay good
[1:30:26]
evening I have 1 two three four five
[1:30:30]
total legislative requests Lieutenant
[1:30:33]
dton is going to assist me with the last
[1:30:37]
one I just one I'm starting with the op8
[1:30:40]
settlement funds okay the op8 settlement
[1:30:42]
funds so we have um a total of $ 77,4
[1:30:48]
33 we are asking uh Council to approve
[1:30:52]
us to accept that and use that by
[1:30:54]
funding our scanty County Hub the funds
[1:30:57]
will be used for temporary housing
[1:31:00]
$7,495 $3,000 for transportation and
[1:31:04]
$4,000 for awareness of what the scanty
[1:31:07]
Hub is
[1:31:08]
there we're asking for no matching funds
[1:31:10]
for
[1:31:11]
this um the temporary housing would be
[1:31:15]
to uh for us to be able to offer housing
[1:31:19]
to those individuals that need it where
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no other resour sources can be can match
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their their need for for one reason or
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another any questions or comments so who
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would provide the
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housing uh well the Hub would make the
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phone calls in order to find a place
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that we could house the individuals most
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likely it would be a hotel
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motel that was exactly my
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question any yeah so do we have any like
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guidelines for these hotels motels uh in
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terms of you know
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habitability the uh scanty County was a
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part of the Hub and we would have them
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they're they're the ones that would be
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making those phone calls and they had
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the guidelines that they use through
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Social Services it's it's simply um you
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know if if if they don't have the
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funding available at their for them at
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the
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time so just as a follow so it would be
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the same hotels that the county
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currently uses to house the of their
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housing that's my understanding right
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okay
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M yeah if that's going to be the case
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there's any chance we could have
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somebody look at these facilities
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because from all reports they're not
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very nice uh just to put it mildly and
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quite frankly if we're going to House
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people it should at least be appropriate
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housing and there's a lot of issues at
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these
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places can I ask what facility you're
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referencing uh some some of the ones
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that are used I don't can't remember the
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names twins yeah over on state
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streety county and does not use that
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facility we use other ones that other
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entities are using them that we don't
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I'll see if I can get some names and Bo
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those on so uh um so could you if it
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were not using that could you provide us
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with the names that would be considered
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because uh Mr pal does point that we
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hear about a lot that some of the the
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mels that people ask and we hear from
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the people who've been house there um
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some of the places they've been housed
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are just really not someplace they would
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want to live but have no choice sure so
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if we can find out where these places
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are that would be awesome I the list of
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the places that they used yes thank you
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any other questions or comments Mo those
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second a second all in favor mov on to
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the next agenda item fiscal year 2023
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State Homeland secur grant
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program okay for for this grant uh it is
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the 2023 State Homeland Security Grant
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uh this Grant application is filed with
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the Capital District urban area working
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group which represents Albany rener and
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scany counties both the city and the
[1:34:14]
counties they uh they all have to agree
[1:34:17]
on what to spend this These funds for
[1:34:20]
and then the individual recipients can
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then choose what to purchase it how to
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allocate it so for this 2023 our our
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share of the funding is
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2,831 and we plan to dedicate that that
[1:34:33]
money towards
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$165,200 for mobile computers
[1:34:39]
interoperable Communications equipment
[1:34:41]
and cameras for physical security
[1:34:43]
enhancements within the city
[1:34:46]
$2,598 for maintenance costs for
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geospatial software which uh we use use
[1:34:51]
ezri and $155,000 for training costs
[1:34:54]
involved in active shooter and other
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Mass incident training this funding
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period is September 1st of 2023 to
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August 31st of 2026 and there's no City
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match any questions or
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comments second
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sorry question sorry so could you you
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you talked about the cameras CU there's
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a lot of like the county does a camera
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project and so what part of cameras
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would would this be used
[1:35:26]
towards um it it it varies um I believe
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last year one of the cameras we
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purchased was a one of our Mobile
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Trailer cameras so that gives us the
[1:35:34]
flexibility to move it around there's
[1:35:36]
other times that we we we uh use these
[1:35:38]
funds to put a a camera that we add to
[1:35:41]
the cam County system uh for a problem
[1:35:44]
area that we find that there's a need
[1:35:46]
for them then we're also uh we're also
[1:35:50]
researching the ability to put cob
[1:35:52]
cameras in for again for the higher need
[1:35:56]
areas and then um one of my questions
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was I know previously you identified
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that with our current technological
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Investments a in particular was it these
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types of grants that are going to help
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offset some of those funds or is this uh
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in
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addition this this grant is not one of
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them but there are similar similar
[1:36:16]
grants that we apply towards our axon
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funding but this this one uh is not one
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of them any other questions or comments
[1:36:23]
may have a motion so second all in favor
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five uh next agenda item is the police
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traffic Services Program Grant by the
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New York State Governor's Traffic Safety
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Committee this grant is a another yearly
[1:36:36]
grant that we we receive for 2023 is
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$46,000 there's no match on the side on
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behalf of the city and we use these
[1:36:46]
funds for seat belt mobilization efforts
[1:36:50]
that are known as click or tick ticket
[1:36:51]
there's $6,700 for that regular uh pts
[1:36:57]
enforcement um which is $37,000 520
[1:37:00]
that's where we go out and we just do
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traffic enforcement such as on Kings
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Road conso roads in any areas that we uh
[1:37:08]
you know we have complaints for Speeders
[1:37:10]
or people running uh lights or red stop
[1:37:13]
signs and then uh $1,780 for other
[1:37:17]
Personnel Services uh that that's
[1:37:19]
allocated for the annual conference that
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revolves around the governor's Traffic
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Safety Committee for total
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46,000 any questions or
[1:37:29]
comments so this is over and above what
[1:37:31]
you already do in terms of um
[1:37:33]
enforcement this is you do that anyway
[1:37:35]
and this is additional to that that's
[1:37:38]
correct um we we have regular uh staff
[1:37:41]
enforcement officers and and this this
[1:37:43]
funding uh we do details where we bring
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them all together on certain periods of
[1:37:48]
time to do uh you know five or six six
[1:37:51]
officers at one time in certain areas to
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really impact it it's going to be used
[1:37:55]
towards speeding we going to need a lot
[1:37:56]
more money yes of
[1:37:59]
course any other questions or comments
[1:38:02]
I'll second it all in favor uh and the
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last item by Chief cliffer will be the
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grant award uh law enforcement
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equipment so this is a a grant for
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$168,400 it's awarded by the new YK
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state division of Criminal Justice
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Services DCJS it's through our a close
[1:38:22]
relationship with DCJS that they offered
[1:38:25]
us this funding which we will plan to
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use for holsters flashlights optic
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mounting plates and modular optic
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systems there is no match um however um
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this equipment that we would be
[1:38:38]
purchasing would be in conjunction with
[1:38:40]
upgrading our Firearms which are getting
[1:38:42]
close to being uh needing to be replaced
[1:38:45]
and uh we are uh currently researching
[1:38:48]
moving our firearms from a 40 caliber to
[1:38:50]
a 9 millimeter and we would um receive a
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credit for the ones that we trade in and
[1:38:58]
that would be off that would offset the
[1:38:59]
cost of the new ones that we do purchase
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this is that is not a part of what we're
[1:39:03]
asking the grant uh to be accepted for
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um and we would be doing our own
[1:39:08]
research on on uh securing the funding
[1:39:11]
for whatever else is needed um for those
[1:39:13]
handguns it's roughly
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$30,000 which we would see in C savings
[1:39:18]
on on purchasing ammunition um but the
[1:39:22]
the better plan for that decision uh we
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we asked for this this funding through
[1:39:27]
the state and we were awarded it so
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we're looking to be able to accept
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it he said what's a modular optic
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unit so uh this is new technology that
[1:39:39]
exists now where the officer um who is
[1:39:42]
using the firearm looks through an optic
[1:39:45]
and they're able to actually see a uh uh
[1:39:48]
their target better where they're
[1:39:49]
shooting to it becomes much more
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accurate and and have
[1:39:55]
a less through training you end up
[1:39:57]
needing to shoot Less in order to
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eliminate the
[1:40:01]
threat any other questions or comments
[1:40:05]
I'll second oh no so you you mentioned
[1:40:09]
it so I don't see anything in here so if
[1:40:12]
this modular optic system is new is
[1:40:14]
there anything in here for training on
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that yes we would we would provide that
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there we would not uh ever switch them
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out without doing it during our annual
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firearms training which is a week
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long okay so just to be clear we would
[1:40:30]
buy this and we wouldn't use it until
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people have been trained on it that's
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correct um and and I asked this uh when
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we were um having the legislative
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conference so I just want to double just
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if you could just explain because I had
[1:40:43]
a question regarding going from the 9 mm
[1:40:47]
versus the 40 caliber yes and and it's
[1:40:51]
impact on human life so I want to know
[1:40:54]
yeah I don't profession to be a
[1:40:55]
ballistics expert but what I've been
[1:40:57]
told is that uh the ballistics uh behind
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a 9mm are equal to or greater than that
[1:41:04]
of a 40 caliber but they're more closely
[1:41:06]
related to being very close um which the
[1:41:09]
the 40 caliber uh from the past of over
[1:41:12]
a 9 Miller was was better but the the
[1:41:15]
technology has gotten such that the 9mm
[1:41:18]
is just as good and it's much cheaper to
[1:41:21]
purchase and um and they're they're
[1:41:23]
smaller um to to put into the weapon so
[1:41:26]
it means that the the weapon that you're
[1:41:28]
carrying is lighter you know which which
[1:41:30]
you know means that you know the the the
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P the drag on the waist for the officers
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is a lot less um which which helps when
[1:41:38]
we're adding more technology like tasers
[1:41:39]
onto their belt so um it's for those
[1:41:43]
reasons why most police departments uh
[1:41:45]
even federal agencies are moving towards
[1:41:47]
this
[1:41:49]
technology any other questions question
[1:41:51]
or comments and motion so Mo second all
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in favor uh before ask Lieutenant to
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come up and be assessed definitely I
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hope it doesn't go un notice uh the
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grants that this department is able to
[1:42:03]
get uh should not be U taken for granted
[1:42:07]
and would you mind as for clarification
[1:42:10]
is that a credit to just your grant
[1:42:11]
writers or administrative staff or is it
[1:42:14]
safe to say you can expect annually
[1:42:16]
these types of
[1:42:17]
awards um yeah I want to give credit to
[1:42:20]
credit do I mean
[1:42:21]
now retired Chief cber um you know he he
[1:42:24]
did a really good job networking and and
[1:42:27]
uh going out and meeting people I also
[1:42:29]
want to give credit to um you know
[1:42:31]
Sergeant Weekley he's one of the
[1:42:33]
individuals that through a uh
[1:42:37]
relationship with
[1:42:38]
DCJS um you know we put ourselves in a
[1:42:41]
position where when we need something we
[1:42:42]
mention to them they they assist us
[1:42:44]
Lieutenant Doan who you're about to hear
[1:42:46]
from same thing he gets involved in the
[1:42:48]
topic and and that's really what we do
[1:42:51]
on a regular basis to to achieve these
[1:42:53]
grants um and then you know we can
[1:42:56]
expect certain ones every year like the
[1:42:59]
governor's Traffic Safety the Homeland
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Security One um the other ones are those
[1:43:03]
one-timers like the the one you're about
[1:43:05]
to hear about and the one with from DCJS
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but it's fair to say that our our our
[1:43:10]
department-wide relationship with DCJS
[1:43:12]
has brought us lots of funding thanks
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you welcome uh and the last agenda item
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will be uh Grant award New York State
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compan annual Capital fund Grant
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by good evening so this is a grant we're
[1:43:28]
awarded for $200,000 it's comes out of
[1:43:31]
the um animal containment fund from New
[1:43:33]
York State this is a fund that has been
[1:43:36]
increased under the governor I expect
[1:43:38]
that this fund's probably going to be
[1:43:39]
increased more in the future um
[1:43:41]
previously it was one to one match they
[1:43:44]
dropped it down to I think 25% so uh
[1:43:47]
right now we we're awarded
[1:43:49]
$200,000 we had previous $150,000 in
[1:43:53]
capital funds um for this project we
[1:43:56]
have another
[1:43:56]
150,000 and uh in this year's budget so
[1:43:59]
we have everything we need to complete
[1:44:00]
the project uh we'll be looking
[1:44:03]
to um improve or relocate our animal
[1:44:07]
shelter the state has passed several
[1:44:09]
laws that are going to go in fact over
[1:44:11]
the next couple years in reference to
[1:44:13]
the quality of the shelters and air
[1:44:16]
quality and certain standards for the
[1:44:17]
animals uh our shelter is currently
[1:44:21]
certified but I would say it's not going
[1:44:23]
to meet those standards so this is going
[1:44:25]
to help us meet those standards for the
[1:44:26]
future we are required to either have a
[1:44:28]
contract with somebody like Mohawk ARS
[1:44:30]
or have a shelter as a municipality so
[1:44:33]
this is going to help us greatly with a
[1:44:36]
relationship with them and should should
[1:44:39]
they
[1:44:40]
uh come to a point where they can't
[1:44:42]
service or can't serve the capacity we
[1:44:45]
have serve as backup for the animals
[1:44:47]
that we do take
[1:44:49]
in
[1:44:51]
question mfield so is our goal to this
[1:44:55]
to be backup I thought our goal was for
[1:44:57]
us to have like a Shel that's ours and
[1:44:59]
maybe they need to back up um um just
[1:45:02]
because I know that there's some cost
[1:45:04]
associated with and I think the city's
[1:45:06]
taking a lot on that in terms of using
[1:45:09]
um their
[1:45:10]
facility yes uh the animal program has
[1:45:14]
never been a stream of Revenue and I'll
[1:45:16]
say it probably never will be however
[1:45:18]
this looks to the Future build
[1:45:20]
Partnerships to help um lessen that Gap
[1:45:24]
and and try to build some Revenue I can
[1:45:27]
say that I've got requests from reram PD
[1:45:31]
Scotia PD Miss PD um PDS from far as the
[1:45:34]
Newberg have come to me to house animals
[1:45:37]
we recently housed an animal for Newberg
[1:45:40]
Police Department for I think $3,500 so
[1:45:43]
we did bring some money back um in
[1:45:46]
reference to this grant once this
[1:45:47]
project is completed we'll be eligible
[1:45:49]
to sign up for for another Grant and uh
[1:45:52]
through that Grant if we partner with
[1:45:54]
somebody like Mo cson or another
[1:45:55]
municipality we' be eligible for a
[1:45:57]
$500,000 Grant so really what we're work
[1:46:00]
working to do uh shortterm make sure we
[1:46:03]
have that backup that we need um
[1:46:07]
longterm build the Partnerships and
[1:46:09]
build the facilities so we can bring
[1:46:10]
Partners in and bring Other M
[1:46:13]
municipalities in hopefully introduce
[1:46:15]
things like uh training centers for
[1:46:18]
responsible set or respons excuse me
[1:46:23]
responsible pet ownership programs and
[1:46:26]
uh you know rabies clinics and stuff
[1:46:29]
like that at the
[1:46:30]
site thank you any other questions or
[1:46:32]
comments no I want my dogs to be able to
[1:46:34]
go through those
[1:46:39]
train second all those in
[1:46:42]
favor with any other items to fall
[1:46:44]
before the Public Safety Committee
[1:46:46]
hearing on have a motion to so second
[1:46:48]
all in favor
[1:46:52]
call to finance and just uh one item
[1:46:55]
it's a reminder for the 2024 operating
[1:46:57]
budget and capital budget U public
[1:46:59]
hearing that we have scheduled for
[1:47:01]
October the 10th 7:00 p.m. reminder
[1:47:04]
again this is a public hearing for our
[1:47:06]
operating budget 2024 operating budget
[1:47:08]
and capital
[1:47:10]
budget any other item before um Finance
[1:47:13]
motion toj second all in favor I thank
[1:47:16]
you thank you I'd like to call to order
[1:47:19]
City development and planning we have 14
[1:47:21]
items on the agenda and first is the
[1:47:24]
followup of ARA contracts Miss
[1:47:28]
[Music]
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car good evening
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again um when I last reported to council
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I just did a bir ey VI on the thing that
[1:47:39]
we were waiting for so today I have a
[1:47:41]
complete list as previously promised in
[1:47:44]
contract we have the YWCA critical needs
[1:47:48]
safe house Bethesda house disconnect the
[1:47:51]
foundation sium bcni foreclosure
[1:47:54]
prevention and bcni owner occupied rehab
[1:47:57]
ready for contract and pending um
[1:48:00]
Council review is Green Market Hamilton
[1:48:03]
hill art center the YWCA Harbor House
[1:48:06]
and the habitat from Humanity currently
[1:48:09]
still awaiting some not all of the
[1:48:11]
pre-contract documents that are required
[1:48:13]
is the boys and girls club The Miracle
[1:48:16]
on Craig Street Coco house electric city
[1:48:19]
Barn SC
[1:48:20]
Connected quanis Club Dury and
[1:48:23]
Empowerment Center we have been making
[1:48:26]
significant progress though since the
[1:48:28]
last time I reported we were able to get
[1:48:30]
three of our subrecipients in full
[1:48:34]
contract other
[1:48:37]
questions uh I'd like to know
[1:48:38]
specifically what are you needing from
[1:48:40]
the Council on the the I think it's four
[1:48:42]
that you said you needed something from
[1:48:43]
the
[1:48:44]
council well I got it it was just a
[1:48:46]
followup on the ones that requested the
[1:48:49]
amendment
[1:48:50]
anything so BC for the extension um the
[1:48:54]
COC house and other ones they're just
[1:48:57]
missing standard documents proof of um
[1:49:00]
Insurance um some budgets are missing um
[1:49:04]
the abstract is missing so minor things
[1:49:07]
but everybody I've been able to make
[1:49:10]
contact with and follow up on Anthony's
[1:49:12]
letter previously sent to get the
[1:49:14]
documents so you're not really waiting
[1:49:16]
anything because we moved on the things
[1:49:18]
that you needed to move on we heard from
[1:49:20]
two organizations tonight yes okay one
[1:49:23]
of the ones that was waiting to move on
[1:49:25]
was uh scat but so yeah all that other
[1:49:30]
questions or any thank you thank
[1:49:36]
you um and just you know in terms of ARA
[1:49:39]
we heard from a couple of um
[1:49:41]
organizations tonight so we're going to
[1:49:42]
be waiting for their documents and then
[1:49:44]
we're going to have to discuss whether
[1:49:46]
we Grant those extensions in those um
[1:49:48]
chain of use of funds um because there
[1:49:50]
were some questions that were asked that
[1:49:52]
were not answered tonight so I think we
[1:49:53]
have to wait for that in order to make
[1:49:55]
those those
[1:49:58]
decisions okay um the item number two is
[1:50:01]
being pulled it was um this is actually
[1:50:04]
a sign that's on private property and so
[1:50:07]
therefore the city does not have to
[1:50:09]
issue a
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permit uh item number three the update
[1:50:14]
for Zoning for cannabis dispensaries and
[1:50:16]
smoking bapy shops um I know a number of
[1:50:19]
the council members I'm not sure if
[1:50:20]
everyone had an opportunity to speak to
[1:50:22]
our Corporation Council and uh so at
[1:50:25]
this time just like to hear where we are
[1:50:26]
with that sure uh first I'd like to
[1:50:28]
thank everybody who's uh come and spoken
[1:50:30]
with um either me or Mr Marney about um
[1:50:35]
you know what you envision for um this
[1:50:39]
zoning District um obviously they're you
[1:50:42]
know we're dealing with obviously you
[1:50:45]
know seven Council people with generally
[1:50:47]
seven ways of approaching it um but I
[1:50:50]
appreciate everybody's patience and in
[1:50:52]
dealing with this I'm going to turn it
[1:50:54]
over to Mr Marty um who has worked on
[1:50:58]
this quite a bit more and I think he has
[1:51:00]
a handout um to give you all a sense of
[1:51:05]
um
[1:51:07]
what presumably you have envisioned um
[1:51:11]
and we can discuss it further
[1:51:18]
obviously
[1:51:22]
thank you hello
[1:51:33]
everyone um so uh what we've prepared uh
[1:51:37]
with development in front of you is a
[1:51:39]
proposed overlay zone for the adult uses
[1:51:42]
that would include the um cannabis uses
[1:51:45]
and uh smok and vape shop uses and
[1:51:48]
consumption uses uh uh uh we did have an
[1:51:51]
opportunity to meet with many of you and
[1:51:53]
receive the feedback and and based off
[1:51:55]
of that feedback uh Christine and Jack
[1:51:58]
and development worked on this map so we
[1:52:00]
can get this out today and begin uh
[1:52:02]
having that conversation um uh largely I
[1:52:06]
guess I would kind of refer to this as
[1:52:07]
the commercial te of skincity uh which
[1:52:10]
includes uh State Street the majority of
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State Street the exception of a small
[1:52:15]
residential Zone down in the middle um
[1:52:19]
of of course uh Erie Boulevard the
[1:52:21]
casino development uh and uh uh Broadway
[1:52:25]
as well um based off of the feedback
[1:52:28]
that was received from many of the
[1:52:29]
council members we did um remove many of
[1:52:32]
the neighborhood retail districts that
[1:52:34]
were PR previously proposed um so you'll
[1:52:37]
know that uh uh a lot of the the area
[1:52:40]
that has been selected has been selected
[1:52:42]
due to uh it doesn't have a substantial
[1:52:45]
impact on residential
[1:52:47]
areas um so uh with that this is just a
[1:52:51]
working map um and uh as far as the rest
[1:52:54]
of the zoning is concerned um you know I
[1:52:57]
know Christine and I spoke a lot um with
[1:52:59]
the folks that came through and met with
[1:53:01]
us about kind of what the framework for
[1:53:03]
that zoning ordinance would look like so
[1:53:05]
we do have a skeleton that we're working
[1:53:06]
on and we'll start flushing out a draft
[1:53:09]
so that we can get that circulated as
[1:53:10]
well um that will take a little bit of
[1:53:12]
time for us to do the that is a heavier
[1:53:14]
lift um you I would say probably about a
[1:53:17]
month for us to be able to put a draft
[1:53:18]
together
[1:53:21]
I just want to piggy back on that um I
[1:53:24]
recognize that there are some areas on
[1:53:26]
this map that um maybe more sensitive um
[1:53:30]
in terms of the businesses that are
[1:53:31]
there um that you know this is obviously
[1:53:35]
the first rout that you're seeing of a
[1:53:36]
map for example you know um there was
[1:53:40]
concern from at least one council person
[1:53:43]
about new choices and having allowing um
[1:53:47]
you know cannabis dispensary
[1:53:50]
um and or um a smoke shop um close to
[1:53:54]
New choices um so again you know I don't
[1:53:57]
know if that was actually covered it
[1:53:59]
looks like it may be green or red on
[1:54:01]
here rather so that's something
[1:54:03]
obviously that you know we certainly
[1:54:04]
want to take a look at um there may be
[1:54:07]
other areas in here where you find it to
[1:54:09]
be more sensitive because of another
[1:54:11]
business that's there obviously you're
[1:54:13]
still going to have to work within um
[1:54:15]
the other regulations that come with the
[1:54:17]
overlay um plus also those regulations
[1:54:20]
that the state has set forth for uh
[1:54:22]
cannabis dispensaries and
[1:54:27]
lunches Mr you have a question yeah U
[1:54:30]
thank you for your work Mr Mar I
[1:54:31]
definitely appreciate this visual uh I
[1:54:34]
want to direct our attention to that one
[1:54:36]
area that's on Upper Union Street is the
[1:54:38]
reason for that inclusion just to
[1:54:40]
encapsulate encapsulate the current
[1:54:42]
business that's there um so that is the
[1:54:44]
Upper Union Street commercial Corridor
[1:54:47]
um so there is already a business there
[1:54:49]
uh that would be one uh proposed area
[1:54:52]
because it is it is largely commercial
[1:54:54]
that the this these would be permitted
[1:54:56]
uses um obviously there is footage
[1:54:59]
restrictions um already imposed for the
[1:55:01]
Cannabis uses by the state and then we'd
[1:55:03]
be looking to impose similar footage
[1:55:05]
restrictions for the vape shop and and
[1:55:08]
the smoke shop uses as well so there
[1:55:11]
would be a limitation to the number of
[1:55:12]
businesses that' be able to go in that
[1:55:14]
District but it is being proposed uh
[1:55:16]
that it's a permitted use there and
[1:55:18]
there a followup question if we did
[1:55:20]
remove that Corridor um that wouldn't
[1:55:24]
prohibit their continued business that
[1:55:25]
would allow us to if they were ever to
[1:55:28]
close business unfortunately there would
[1:55:29]
not be a replacement in that area
[1:55:30]
correct correct if it was not permitted
[1:55:32]
in the Upper Union Street District it
[1:55:34]
would become a pre-existing
[1:55:35]
non-performing use um and unless the
[1:55:37]
council chose to amortize pre-existing
[1:55:40]
non-performing uses they would be
[1:55:41]
permitted to continue as long as they
[1:55:43]
don't discon thank you Mr B can you send
[1:55:47]
us a uh version where we electronic
[1:55:50]
version so we can kind of see the
[1:55:52]
streets yes we do have a pdf version we
[1:55:55]
can circulate uh and we could probably
[1:55:58]
cut off NY and reram to T it up a little
[1:56:01]
bit but it's just a very large map to
[1:56:03]
try to get the whole thing on one pie
[1:56:05]
paper um but uh uh the PDF you can zoom
[1:56:09]
in and see uh partial detail oh good um
[1:56:13]
so uh Mr C didn't mention the area
[1:56:16]
around the choices but then we have
[1:56:18]
another um um facility that's going up
[1:56:22]
near Bethesda house it's part of
[1:56:23]
Bethesda house so are those
[1:56:25]
considerations those being taken
[1:56:27]
considerations because again they house
[1:56:29]
a more vulnerable
[1:56:31]
population um certainly that's something
[1:56:33]
that we can take into consideration uh
[1:56:35]
it wasn't specifically discussed for
[1:56:37]
purposes of preparing this map but if
[1:56:39]
there are certain things that the
[1:56:41]
council would like to see or or changes
[1:56:43]
or modifications we can certainly take
[1:56:45]
that um into account and uh and hone in
[1:56:49]
on those parcels and see where they are
[1:56:51]
um ideally what we would want to avoid
[1:56:53]
in a scenario like this is picking and
[1:56:56]
choosing what Parcels so the overlay
[1:56:58]
should be continuous um you know unless
[1:57:01]
we're leaving out a chunk of an area for
[1:57:04]
specific purpose um like we did here
[1:57:06]
this is the uh this little spot here is
[1:57:09]
actually an R2 District um that's just
[1:57:11]
kind of like left on State Street so we
[1:57:13]
not do that cuz it's not commercial um
[1:57:16]
but uh we don't want to spot Z so we
[1:57:17]
don't want to we don't want to pick in
[1:57:19]
choose um one parcel versus you know the
[1:57:23]
parcel next door is not going to allow
[1:57:24]
but two Parcels down we are going to
[1:57:26]
allow so it has to be pretty a pretty
[1:57:28]
large area correct but you know I'm not
[1:57:31]
familiar with that area that you're
[1:57:32]
referencing so there may be a reason
[1:57:34]
maybe that area shouldn't be included um
[1:57:36]
you know it's just uh um it's certainly
[1:57:38]
something that we can take a look at
[1:57:40]
okay Mr Williams but I think to previous
[1:57:43]
conversations Mr C that could be
[1:57:44]
something built into an exemption to
[1:57:47]
incorporate vulnerable populations is
[1:57:48]
that correct understanding an exemption
[1:57:52]
um I gu I that there was language also
[1:57:54]
well you know there's language that can
[1:57:56]
be used not for the purposes of cannabis
[1:57:59]
dispensary right because that's already
[1:58:01]
being regulated by the St um but um as
[1:58:05]
it applies to the smoke shops and vape
[1:58:07]
shops uh the city council can certainly
[1:58:10]
set up you know a number of feet away
[1:58:13]
from another smoke shop vape shop or
[1:58:17]
some type of you know a school or
[1:58:20]
um a reh a rehabilitation facility or
[1:58:22]
something along those lines for those
[1:58:25]
non Canabis related um shops that would
[1:58:28]
be regulated over this uh overlay
[1:58:31]
District thank
[1:58:35]
you anything else anybody want to have
[1:58:39]
them consider look into what we're what
[1:58:40]
we're moving ahead on this I'm sorry is
[1:58:43]
there anything further that you would
[1:58:44]
like to to see as we're moving forward
[1:58:47]
on this except getting the PDF so that
[1:58:50]
we can see so we can
[1:58:52]
see well thank you very much and so you
[1:58:54]
said within a month then you would be
[1:58:56]
able to our goal is to have a a solid
[1:58:59]
written draft of the actual ordinance
[1:59:02]
itself uh within a month um so that we
[1:59:05]
can uh we can move forward with that
[1:59:06]
process because that's going to be the
[1:59:07]
meat potato so what we do here though
[1:59:09]
overly the map is just is actually the
[1:59:12]
small piece it's a
[1:59:15]
good well thank you glad we're moving
[1:59:17]
ahead thank you very much and if I can
[1:59:19]
add on to that um the map is still
[1:59:22]
something obviously as Mr Marne
[1:59:24]
indicated we're going to work on the
[1:59:25]
language for what the silver L what the
[1:59:27]
requirements will be but this map is
[1:59:29]
still something that you know will be
[1:59:31]
modified um over time as you provide us
[1:59:34]
with additional feedback on um you know
[1:59:38]
your thoughts as a council on what you
[1:59:40]
want and what you don't want areas that
[1:59:42]
you think might be um more sensitive to
[1:59:45]
having these types of businesses there
[1:59:48]
um versus other areas that maybe we did
[1:59:51]
not highlight in red where you think it
[1:59:53]
would be right to allow these types of
[1:59:54]
businesses um so obviously we continue
[1:59:57]
to welcome uh the comments from the city
[2:00:00]
council so that we can make your Visions
[2:00:02]
a reality for this
[2:00:03]
purpose thank you thank you uh so item
[2:00:06]
number four is
[2:00:11]
um uh the discussion regarding the
[2:00:13]
six-month moratorium uh on the
[2:00:15]
submission and processing of um building
[2:00:17]
permits etc for for um smoke shops VAP
[2:00:20]
shops tobacco or V consumption
[2:00:24]
businesses and we did um send for
[2:00:30]
a an opinion by uh from the county um
[2:00:35]
Planning Commission and everybody got
[2:00:39]
that so um we just take a look at that
[2:00:43]
and further discussion on on this
[2:00:46]
particular item
[2:00:51]
okay
[2:00:55]
mhm okay
[2:00:57]
so this point in time um there's no
[2:01:01]
discussion
[2:01:02]
no of the what we received from the
[2:01:06]
county so at this point in time we need
[2:01:09]
to decide whether we um go forward with
[2:01:11]
the moratorium
[2:01:14]
or or
[2:01:18]
not Mr just a follow up with regards to
[2:01:21]
our last conversation and the update we
[2:01:25]
received from McCarthy regarding to the
[2:01:27]
enforcement and talking to the may this
[2:01:29]
afternoon and uh with four additional um
[2:01:32]
shop submit applications so in total um
[2:01:36]
there's a significant amount of
[2:01:39]
um shops are submitting their
[2:01:42]
application to coming
[2:01:44]
compliance so as I said before I mean
[2:01:47]
the enforcement is going on let's
[2:01:50]
look at what's happening and allow these
[2:01:52]
business to come in compliance I don't
[2:01:54]
think we should do a moreor at this
[2:01:56]
point in time the enforcement
[2:01:58]
significant amount of enforcement is
[2:01:59]
going
[2:02:00]
on so that's my point at this
[2:02:04]
point can I just ask the point of
[2:02:06]
clarification you mean um four shops
[2:02:08]
that are coming into compliance that are
[2:02:10]
already um started or are you saying
[2:02:12]
this four new shops that based on the
[2:02:15]
last report that we received two weeks
[2:02:16]
ago the four more application
[2:02:19]
certificate of use
[2:02:21]
application so they're existing already
[2:02:24]
but they did not have their paperwork in
[2:02:26]
cor Bas some of the notes you have here
[2:02:28]
there four more should be updated here
[2:02:31]
okay so yes Mr T so there just
[2:02:35]
originally they were just opening
[2:02:36]
without compliance from the
[2:02:38]
city like popping up that was one of the
[2:02:41]
main reasons so I wanted a moratorium to
[2:02:44]
put a halt on them so um we would know
[2:02:47]
if one opened up that you know
[2:02:50]
yeah so so and I and I did um find three
[2:02:57]
that um weren't on the list um that that
[2:03:01]
the mayor had issued so I can pass
[2:03:04]
that's they popped
[2:03:06]
up na has been out St I send those to na
[2:03:11]
one was on Michigan Avenue one was on
[2:03:14]
Broadway I can't recall where the third
[2:03:16]
one is but I mean I think there's three
[2:03:18]
on Broadway already but I did check them
[2:03:20]
off to the rist so okay um but again
[2:03:23]
they're just popping up wherever they
[2:03:25]
want to pop up for whatever reason um so
[2:03:29]
did you forward those um that you found
[2:03:31]
yeah you already did no I
[2:03:34]
will so they could have been existing
[2:03:36]
and we just didn't we didn't know they
[2:03:38]
weren't on the list correct okay Mr WS
[2:03:43]
so I think one of my comments is that's
[2:03:45]
that's one assumption I think would also
[2:03:47]
I think I I would in infer from them
[2:03:49]
coming into compliances maybe they were
[2:03:51]
unaware and I think that as we deal with
[2:03:53]
the community I think having people that
[2:03:55]
are actively working towards once
[2:03:57]
they've been identified so I can respect
[2:03:59]
that the enforcement seems to be working
[2:04:01]
at this present time with for coming
[2:04:02]
back into uh I guess good standings but
[2:04:05]
definitely I think if there is a a
[2:04:08]
company that is not being responsive I
[2:04:10]
think that would be a blatant indication
[2:04:11]
of just not wanting to follow the
[2:04:14]
appropriate local
[2:04:16]
laws Mr Val y we're I mean just given
[2:04:19]
our previous discussion we're moving
[2:04:21]
forward on zoning anyway it's going to
[2:04:24]
be relatively quick to do this um makes
[2:04:27]
sense to have the moratorium that way if
[2:04:30]
new shops do pop up and they are popping
[2:04:33]
up um we automatically know they're
[2:04:35]
illegal um we can have those shut down
[2:04:40]
right away um but the zoning process
[2:04:43]
we're looking at what a month two months
[2:04:46]
at the most that if there's a
[2:04:49]
shop that's existing looking to do
[2:04:52]
something to get their their uh self in
[2:04:56]
compliance that doesn't impact them so
[2:04:59]
we can move forward with the moratorium
[2:05:02]
stop it get the zoning in place help the
[2:05:05]
enforcement aspect yes there's
[2:05:07]
enforcement going on but new shops are
[2:05:09]
popping up just makes sense to do the
[2:05:12]
moratorium for the few months until we
[2:05:15]
get the zoning in place so I just want
[2:05:17]
to uh Mr col if you to clarify um this
[2:05:19]
for me if there's a shop that's
[2:05:22]
currently open but not in compliant and
[2:05:25]
we move forward with this what happens
[2:05:27]
to that
[2:05:29]
shop if they're not in compliance then
[2:05:32]
correct then and they continue to open
[2:05:34]
after a moratorium has been passed they
[2:05:36]
will be in violation the moratorium and
[2:05:38]
they could potentially be cited and we
[2:05:40]
can see conjunctive relief to
[2:05:42]
essentially shut them down during the
[2:05:43]
period of the
[2:05:45]
moratorium that that's what I want to
[2:05:47]
know because then then doesn't not allow
[2:05:49]
them to come in compliance I me they
[2:05:51]
could get their paperwork in if they
[2:05:52]
know we're doing a moratorium they could
[2:05:54]
at least start that process and there's
[2:05:56]
a cuta language oh I'm sorry I'm sorry
[2:05:59]
Mr there's cuta language in the
[2:06:01]
moratorium um where somebody could
[2:06:04]
potentially make an application to the
[2:06:05]
city council to explain some type of
[2:06:08]
hardship uh what should be said about
[2:06:10]
that hardship is um just the failure to
[2:06:14]
you know to be in compliance and having
[2:06:17]
been open without you know know having
[2:06:19]
been in compliance is not a hardship um
[2:06:23]
so it would have to be you know really
[2:06:25]
some extenuating circumstance that the
[2:06:27]
council sees just and fit to
[2:06:30]
allow
[2:06:32]
okay Mr um I know this application will
[2:06:36]
be uh turning over to your office is
[2:06:38]
there an application that you received
[2:06:41]
today uh and take a look off hand um I
[2:06:45]
don't know I don't have an answer for
[2:06:46]
you um I'd have to take a look to see
[2:06:49]
where everything
[2:06:51]
stands I don't think I have I don't
[2:06:54]
think so can you can you please um have
[2:06:58]
a copy of
[2:06:59]
this may you're going to get an update
[2:07:01]
for us sometime this
[2:07:03]
week uh yes
[2:07:06]
participate
[2:07:08]
[Music]
[2:07:10]
okay any other any further discussion so
[2:07:13]
at this point in time we have to um it's
[2:07:16]
the motion is going to be before us
[2:07:18]
forther we moove forward with the
[2:07:19]
moratorium or continue in the uh with
[2:07:22]
the enforcement and allowing people to
[2:07:23]
come into
[2:07:25]
compliance that is my position
[2:07:28]
to allow the enforcement
[2:07:31]
to to work itself
[2:07:34]
out so you're not in favor of moving
[2:07:37]
forward with the moratorium that is
[2:07:40]
correct I feel the same way
[2:07:43]
okay okay well um then that's then we're
[2:07:47]
not going to be able to will not be
[2:07:48]
moving forward the moratorium but we'll
[2:07:49]
be continuing with the
[2:07:51]
enforcement thank
[2:07:54]
you yes uh as a point of clarification
[2:07:57]
so does that cease the moratorium is it
[2:08:00]
in a pause status um we never voted it
[2:08:03]
through so it never started thank you
[2:08:05]
you're
[2:08:06]
welcome all right so item number five is
[2:08:09]
to discuss the process of handling the
[2:08:11]
outstanding accounts in um from SL slbc
[2:08:14]
as you remember I brought this forward
[2:08:17]
before um because there was a um excuse
[2:08:20]
me a resolution that was passed in 201
[2:08:23]
um3 I believe um that the language in it
[2:08:28]
made it sound as though we were the um
[2:08:32]
administration of it was in the hands of
[2:08:34]
the city council and so we passed that
[2:08:38]
that's not what we wanted to happen but
[2:08:40]
um unfortunately the language was not
[2:08:42]
was not that ended up in the resolution
[2:08:44]
was not what um we had discussed at this
[2:08:48]
table
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so um bringing it back for further
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discussion and Clarity on what that
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resolution needs to look like to make
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sure that it's not
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responsibility of the um city council
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but rather the
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city so Mr Cen if you would just sure I
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have the opportunity to speak to
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president Porterfield about this
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resolution and I think we both agree
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that you know um the language could have
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been better but at the same time I think
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it accomplishes what it was meant to
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accomplish um the obviously um the city
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council acts as uh the body that would
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be accepting mortgages for the purposes
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of of assignment and that's exactly what
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happened in this resolution um the
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administration of um what happens once
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we take um you know um ownership of
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those mortgages um would be something
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that would be carried out by City
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departments as the city council doesn't
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really have the capacity or um the power
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to carry out those mortgages
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um so that resolved statement here is
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that the city council agrees to accept
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the assignment is doing so on behalf of
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the city um and um what would make sense
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related to that is because the city
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council isn't signing the assignments
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themselves to accept it it was
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authorizing the mayor to sign it um so
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there was some um confusion on my part I
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guess um from the last meeting because
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um there was nothing here that I saw
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that had to be amended because I think
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it accomplished exactly what needed to
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be accomplished
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um and those mortgages have been and and
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accounts have been assigned byc to the
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city um I know Mr Brown and I have been
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talking frequently about these uh
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mortgages because obviously um we have
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folks reaching out to us looking for um
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satisfactions and um obviously also
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there's been a paperwork issue that the
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council's aware of um so we can kind of
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keep track of what was assigned and what
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was previously paid and that's something
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that we continue to work through so I'm
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happy to answer any questions that you
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may have related to this um resolution
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and um any questions about any type of
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um additional resolution that you see
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I'll see fit to uh
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pass so my concern was was that the
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original resolution in 2013 um was not
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did not like for me anyway spell out
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that the city council would do it on
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behalf of the city but you're saying
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that because our only role is that we
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would that the city would actually do
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the administration the city council
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would just approve it is that then
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that's 2013 as it stands is fine the one
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in
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2013 mayor my in reviewing this have
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been part of the discussion is that
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entity was
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dissolved there were some assets that
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were out
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outstanding uh mortgages most of which
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if not all of which had been funded
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through City assets that had been given
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to
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slbc and that transferred those assets
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back to the
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city and the followup is handled in the
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normal course of business if and the
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question has come up sometimes if those
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mortgages were going to be discharged
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absent payment of them so if a mortgage
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is paid uh I sign the satisfaction
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saying that the city has received it we
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do this in uh number of times some of
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our
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non
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uh our paper lanss that we put against
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properties to make sure that they're
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owner occupied other things when those
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terms and conditions are established I
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can sign that if there was a situation
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where we were going to discharge the
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mortgage or wave it absent payment of it
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it would have to come back to the city
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council and the council would have to
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vote on it to
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say they've reduced the amount of money
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they've waved what's owed or whatever
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the final disposition that was being
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negotiated
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or entertained at that point in time and
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so 2013 covers that so we don't need to
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do
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anything is that what your yes okay all
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right that answers that so we don't have
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to need to do that all
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right okay um um just yes the last time
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we discuss this we asked we asked for a
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list of the outstanding mortgages did we
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did we receive that so um that seems
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like to be something that's hard to find
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um we gone to um
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something like Metroplex they thought
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some files were there there will be
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there um thought we think there may be
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some files here so at this point in time
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I don't know that there's a list Mr
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Brown would you like to speak to that
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yes so currently we have a working list
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that we're still expanding on um certain
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files um through the dissolution went to
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Metroplex because they also funded some
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of those so the ones that the city
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funded most of those all came to the
[2:14:21]
city so we're still working on getting a
[2:14:23]
complete list so that we can send you a
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complete one instead of like three
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versions of mon okay do you have a time
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frame on the complete
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list um I would say that I should be
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able to provide you an update within
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maybe two more cycles that minimum a
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mon all right thank you thank
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you so so is there any further
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discussion around uh that this slbc okay
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thank you item number six is a reminder
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um that there will be a public hearing
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regarding amending um 24 excuse me 24818
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of the city code to designate J Street
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from Liberty Street to to Union a
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two-way and the public hearing will be
[2:15:07]
on October 10th here it says the 9th but
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none of us will be here on the 9th it's
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it's a day off so on October 10th is
[2:15:14]
when the public he want to come
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early
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okay all right item number seven is a
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cerem ceremonial resolution for hearts
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Family Cleaners Miss Taro yes so I'd
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like to uh put that forward do some
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research I have already talked to Sue um
[2:15:34]
and got a whole bunch of stuff together
[2:15:37]
on the cleaners um they're retiring
[2:15:39]
after 25 years in service um by a part
[2:15:43]
of up Upper Union Street and uh so we're
[2:15:46]
going to present that at a later time so
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it would not be at this council meeting
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not okay later time
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okay need a motion so move second all in
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favor I I thank you uh item number eight
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is a ceremon ceremonial resolution
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recognizing October as domestic violence
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Awareness Month Miss Patrick yes so
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October is domestic violence awareness
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month and um I'd like to bring forth the
[2:16:11]
ceremonial resolution so that we bring
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this issue and the services that are
[2:16:16]
being provided on our
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community to the Public's
[2:16:22]
attention all ins motion so Mo second
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second all in favor I thank you item
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number nine is a ceremonial resolution
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for connected hardware and electric um
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they are uh celebrating their 100th year
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anniversary and actually their event is
[2:16:37]
on the 5ifth so we won't be able to pass
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it before that however um um you know
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having a centennial anniversary is
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pretty significant so I would like the
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um the city council to be able to uh
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present the resolution so move second
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all in favor I thank you um item number
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10 a ceremonial resolution for Italian
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American Heritage Month Mr palamini as
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the title says it's Italian American
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heritage month and uh so we recognize
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this annually it's just a matter of
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waiting I'll let uh Miss Miku know
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whether they'll be in person or would
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like it at their event they're going to
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let me know in the next day or two okay
[2:17:16]
so we're not sure yet the will know
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before Monday perfect so second all in
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favor five five I would like to add one
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more ceremoni resolution because I think
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five is a good number um there's a woman
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a young lady um she represented skincity
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in um New York State I guess they're
[2:17:35]
still calling them beauty pageant um and
[2:17:38]
so we met her at the Caribbean day and I
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think her last name is I want to
[2:17:44]
pronounce it incorrectly so Mr mudar
[2:17:46]
what is her last name buo buo so uh
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would like to um have Miss buo come to
[2:17:52]
the city council meeting and you can all
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meet her and actually present her with a
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u a um ceremonial resolution just
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honoring her for having received that
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distinction so M second all in favor I I
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thank you thank you uh council members I
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appreciate that uh the last four items
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are for property sales and therefore
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will be an executive
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session so I need a motion to go into
[2:18:17]
second session second all in
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favor bring second session and all
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members of the public will have to leave