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[0:33] Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to start meeting with the pledge of the flag

[0:39] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

[0:44] stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[0:50] for all. >> Um, thank you. Uh, thank you for

[0:53] notifications.

[0:57] Okay.

[1:02] Okay, we have

[1:06] » we have a consent agenda. The first order is the consent agenda.

[1:13] » I'm going to ask that uh I'm going to rewrite the uh financial

[1:20] um the numbers are correct as far as the total receipts, the total dispersements,

[1:27] etc. I uh I just want to redo the general ledger and put some money that

[1:33] was put in the general ledger in the building department to show that

[1:38] contract. But uh the receipts of 96,13518

[1:44] that's correct and the dispersements are correct. So I just want to get some

[1:50] money put in different pockets. >> Okay. Anyone else have any issues with?

[2:00] » Okay. Can I get a motion to uh to approve the consent agenda with the um

[2:05] correction that uh

[2:09] move? >> Okay. We have a motion support to

[2:12] approve the consent agenda with the one correction.

[2:15] » Support. >> Support. Um all in favor?

[2:19] » I I should say roll call vote. Excuse me. Roll call vote.

[2:23] » Anderson. Yes. >> Yes. cuz I see

[2:27] still >> Stephen check motion carries. Okay,

[2:30] citizens comments. Anyone have any there's another citizens

[2:36] comment at the end of the meeting? So, okay.

[2:41] First um item on the agenda is the um

[2:48] resolution 2026-01 annual meeting and public hearing for

[2:54] the 20 2026 2027 budget.

[3:04] » I make a motion to adopt resolution 2026-01.

[3:10] » Okay. We have support. >> Support.

[3:12] » We have a motion in support to adopt Casco Township resolution 2026-

[3:18] um 026-01 annual meeting and public hearing for

[3:23] the 2026 27 budget. >> Any questions?

[3:29] All in favor? >> I

[3:35] said I. >> Okay. Motion carries.

[3:39] Okay. Second one is resolution township resolution

[3:44] 2026-02 clerk salary. Um our clerk is asking for

[3:50] no raise for this year.

[4:00] I made a motion to go forward to approve resolution 2026-02

[4:06] salary for $53,300. I'll support.

[4:11] » Okay, we have a motion in support to approve CO Township resolution 2026-02

[4:17] clerk salary for the um amount of $53,300.

[4:23] Okay, any questions?

[4:26] All in favor? >> I I motion carries.

[4:31] » Okay. Casco Township resolution 2026-03

[4:37] treasurally. Um it's for the amount of uh 331,60.

[4:44] » I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2026-

[4:51] 03 >> support. Give a motion support to adopt

[4:55] Casco Township resolution 2026 Jeros 3 treasure salary for amount of $31,60.

[5:04] Any questions? All in favor? >> I motion carries.

[5:10] Okay. Okay. Item D, Casco Township resolution

[5:15] 2026 04 trustee salary. Um the amount is

[5:22] $1,000 per year with a pdeium of $83.33

[5:28] per meeting. >> Make a motion to accept resolution

[5:33] 2026-04 trustee salary for $1,000 per year or

[5:40] $83.33 per day.

[5:44] Okay. A motion support to adopt Casco Township resolution 2026-04

[5:49] trustee salary. This is for um Trustee Goldson

[5:56] for an amount of $1,000 per year plus a pdeium of $83.33

[6:01] per meeting. Any questions? All in favor?

[6:04] » I motion carries. >> Okay. This is for um Casco Township

[6:11] resolution 2026-05 trustee sharing for trustee Kazinski

[6:17] $1,000 per year plus a meeting per p permium of $83.33.

[6:25] I vote to approve resolution 2026-05 trustee salary for um Gina Kazinski at

[6:35] $1,000 per year, $83.33 per de. Okay, we have a motion support

[6:42] to adopt Casco Township resolution 2026-05

[6:47] trustee salary this for trustee Kazinski $1,000 per year plus a previne of $83.33

[6:55] per meeting. Any questions? >> All in favor?

[6:59] » I motion carries. Casco Township resolution 2026-06

[7:06] supervisor salary. This is for $28,551

[7:13] per year.

[7:17] » I vote for to approve resolution 2026-06 supervisor salary for $28,551

[7:26] per year. Motion support to adopt Casco Township

[7:30] resolution 2026-06 supervisor salary for 28,551

[7:38] per year. Any question? >> Roll call. No vote. I mean I roll call.

[7:42] All in favor? >> I

[7:50] pilot.

[7:53] » All right. The next one is U Craas invoice

[7:58] number 214168. This is for the 10 um business standard

[8:04] at um $12.50 for 12 months for $1,500. >> Did you call them and ask them how many

[8:13] of those that that we use? >> No, I didn't call. I call in other

[8:19] words. Yeah. So, >> but I could do that tomorrow.

[8:24] » I just I don't know how many of those. I'm assuming that's for Microsoft.

[8:27] » Yes, I think you're right. >> And it says we we have 10.

[8:32] » 1 2 3 4 5 6 7.

[8:38] [snorts]

[8:43] » That's beautiful. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

[8:53] » What about my kid?

[8:57] » I don't have microphone on. >> I'll call.

[9:02] » Okay. >> So, I don't know if we want to do like

[9:05] an approval based on what you find out. >> Yeah, I think so.

[9:09] » I mean, if if we use all of them, fine. If we don't return,

[9:14] » we'll ask for

[9:24] » Okay.

[9:28] » Motion. >> I can make a motion to approve um

[9:32] invoice 214168 for Centurus for $1,500. um

[9:39] based on what we find out from them. >> Okay.

[9:44] » If if we use all 10, fine. If we don't, then we'll adjust it down to

[9:49] » whatever it is. Fine. >> If they'll allow that.

[9:53] » Okay. >> I'm sure.

[9:58] » Okay. We have a motion support to um pay invoice comparison invoice here. 214168

[10:07] for $15. With caveat, I'll check with um um Centers tomorrow. And there's if we

[10:14] use less than 10, ask for um a rebate or a refund. The ones we don't have. Okay.

[10:24] Any other questions? >> Okay. Roll call vote.

[10:27] » Anderson, yes. >> Kazinski, yes.

[10:31] » Stevens, yes. Motion carries. Okay.

[10:38] H emergency road funding $20,000. We do this every year in case in this spring

[10:44] we have some sort of really bad road um condition where it needs extra money

[10:51] from requesting that $20,000 be moved into the general fund to cover

[10:58] in case of that contingency. >> Make a motion to move $2,000 of

[11:03] emergency funds um into the general fund to cover

[11:09] situations.

[11:13] Okay. Motion in support to move $20,000 into the um general fund to improve um

[11:19] for any road emergencies that may occur during the um winter or spring months.

[11:26] Okay. Do we have to have a roll call vote?

[11:27] » Who supported that? >> Yeah. Do we have to do a roll call vote?

[11:30] I would. >> Yep. Roll call vote. Anderson, yes.

[11:33] » Yes. >> Kazinski, yes. Yes.

[11:36] » Stevens, yes. Motion carries. Okay. Township sign.

[11:42] We We got the township signed by sign fabricators and our clients.

[11:50] Um the sign has never worked since we've had it. They've always had they built a

[11:56] cabinet, but the electronics was supplied by a place over in White Lake

[12:00] called Works Direct. To get them to come on out to repair the sign was near

[12:05] impossible, and they still didn't fix it. So, we had Philip sign and Mount

[12:11] Clemens come. They got the sign running again, but there's still parts of it.

[12:15] Some of the panels aren't working like they should. One of the panels aren't

[12:19] working at all. Well, they investigate into it and they found well when uh

[12:25] the sign that type of sign is not being made no more and and Philip sign they do

[12:30] not have the software to support that brand.

[12:35] » We paid what >> I think 29,000.

[12:40] » Yeah, these and that was a low cost sign that we chose. That was the lowest cost

[12:45] sign. Um I'm thinking we need to um do legal action

[12:51] on the people we bought it from. >> Absolutely.

[12:54] » Yeah. So this is just unacceptable. This is a big thing and we've just getting

[13:01] knocked around with a ping pong from day one. And I think that um

[13:08] so I'm gonna I want permission from the board to contact our attorney to start

[13:14] legal proceedings on this. >> This has been going on for a long time.

[13:18] » Yes. >> I think you got it in 2022 maybe.

[13:21] » Yeah. >> I'll make a motion.

[13:23] » Okay. Okay. Do we have support?

[13:27] » I'll support. >> Okay. a motion support to allow the

[13:30] supervisor to contact our uh township attorney to start legal proceedings

[13:36] against um significators among clemens over our

[13:41] site or non or >> could you talk to Chris could you ask

[13:47] her what she estimates the cost would be to take this on

[13:52] » see if it's a practical thing >> what did you say sorry

[13:55] » I just asked to ask ask the attorney what she estimates the legal costs will

[14:01] be to take this uh issue to court and to settle it.

[14:05] » Okay. >> All right. I'll do that.

[14:11] » And I would assume that we have all the background documenting

[14:17] the calls that we made, the requests that we made. We have all that

[14:22] » and we should be good to go. Okay. >> All right.

[14:27] We need to vote on it. >> I I would say that all right. So

[14:31] » you got motion and support. >> Yeah. Move. We have motion support to

[14:34] allow supervisor to contact our legal representation

[14:38] about the township sign. All okay. This will cost money. So it's roll call vote.

[14:44] » Anderson. Yes. >> Yes.

[14:46] » Present. Yes. Yes. >> Stevens. Yes. Motion carries. Okay. This

[14:51] is the thing from Cintas here. They we we modified our contract.

[14:58] Instead of paying it every week, we went to um monthly. We asked them and plus we

[15:03] took some rugs away. We wanted to see if that would reset our contract

[15:08] um that we signed two years ago whether that would reset to another and it does

[15:14] not. >> So,

[15:16] » did you already contact them and ask them to change it to monthly or not yet?

[15:20] » Um yeah, >> you did. So, when does that start?

[15:23] » Probably next month. So I'll I'll double check.

[15:29] » So we don't have to do any action. That was kind of

[15:47] okay.

[15:54] Okay. Um, budget amendments. >> So, I have a few budget amendments. Um,

[16:01] you can take your revenue and expenditure report that was in the

[16:05] packet earlier. You can follow along. Um the first one I am taking

[16:11] $295 from the planning commission account

[16:15] number which is 10110179 and I'm moving it to the zoning board of

[16:20] appeals account which is 101101710.

[16:26] The next set is I am taking $3,1128

[16:33] from the planning consultant account number which is 101 101816

[16:39] and I am moving it into the three following accounts. The first one is the

[16:45] telephone account 101101850. I'm moving $6216

[16:51] into there. The second is account number 101101752

[16:56] for supplies. I'm moving $253.98 in there. And then the last one is

[17:04] account 101101956 miscellaneous and I'm moving $2,796.14

[17:11] there which totals the $3,1128.

[17:17] The last set is I am moving $6,23942

[17:25] from legal fees account number 101 101826.

[17:29] I am moving it to two accounts. The first is 101265752

[17:36] supplies. I'm moving $1,775.79.

[17:41] The second is account number 101265930 maintenance and repairs and I'm moving

[17:49] $4,46363

[17:52] which totals $6,23942.

[17:58] I did not touch the building department. There are a couple. There's one,

[18:06] one, two, three, four accounts that are over budget. So, you encourage me to sit

[18:12] down and figure that out. >> Okay.

[18:26] Okay. All right. Um we just had the um budget amendments listed. Um do we have

[18:32] a motion to >> motion to approve budget amendments for

[18:36] 2025 26? >> Okay.

[18:40] » Okay. Support for the budget amendments for 2025 2026

[18:46] 2026. Okay. Roll call vote. >> Anderson yes

[18:50] » yes. >> Kazinski yes. Stove yes.

[18:53] » Stevens yes. Motion carries. zoning administrator. Um I did what the board

[18:59] requested it. I added the code enforcement into the zoning um

[19:04] administrator position. And in your on the table tonight, you'll see another

[19:10] one at the bottom there's another um thing we added and improved zoning

[19:15] requirements on building plans. I had Shel look this over on Monday and that's

[19:20] where her adviser was. Good. Um, >> that's what she needs to do for her job.

[19:25] » So, um, does anyone have any questions on this?

[19:33] » Well, I have three people. Matter of fact, one, um, gentleman came in today

[19:38] who has experience in township government.

[19:41] » Um, I have a another one who was recommended by he was a former a retired

[19:46] contractor in Lennox Township. He was referred to me by their code enforcement

[19:51] official there. And I have a gentleman who does the exact same job up virtual

[19:57] township who told me that he'd be interested.

[20:02] So, um, [clears throat]

[20:05] » and we're doing this as a zoning administrator/code enforcement. Yes. One

[20:10] person. >> One person. And then when if and when we

[20:14] approve this, we'll figure out like how many days they're here, how many hours.

[20:19] » I'm thinking one day a week in house here and do all this field work. Unless

[20:24] if there's more splits, I mean zoning to be done, field work. You know, if they

[20:29] have to work more than one day, so be it. Work one day, be in the office, and

[20:35] then be available by phone for the rest of the week for

[20:39] me. that zoning person is going to have a

[20:44] lot more work from the building department than he will have the splits.

[20:51] The building department is booming. And so

[20:57] to have one day a week he's here, he's gone and I get three applications that

[21:03] need only we wait a week to get that. >> Well, can we get them in the BPN like

[21:09] Katie has? And I think Shelly has one that they can work from home if they

[21:13] need to. [snorts] >> We could look into that.

[21:18] » I don't Does that cost us anything? I don't know if it does.

[21:20] » I mean, well, the biggest thing like Brenda says, it's going to be the actual

[21:23] fieldwork itself going out and measuring the setbacks from that and u

[21:28] » right they're going to need the site plan that the [clears throat]

[21:32] brings to us in the office. I would say require them to work inhouse one day a

[21:37] week to be here physically here preferably on Monday because they can

[21:41] work with the assessor on any split issues and then be available if um and

[21:47] in case if they need extra fieldwork doing um the zoning and that then

[21:53] » you just say as needed. >> Yeah, as needed.

[21:57] whoever whoever gets hired just needs to be aware that it could be

[22:01] » you know like an extra day or >> and um and I told um the individual who

[22:06] came to my office today and code enforcement we've done by complaint

[22:10] bases only so whoever so

[22:16] » when Matt was our only administrator he worked a full-time job

[22:21] » so what we would do is take his information to the door and he would

[22:26] pick it up. So, we can we can make it work. But,

[22:30] » you know, they're going to have a I mean, building department is been very

[22:34] busy. >> Yeah. So, all three of them are familiar

[22:37] with zoning. >> Nice.

[22:38] » Yeah. So, okay. So,

[22:47] any questions on this? >> Do we need to take any action on that?

[22:52] Well, I think we should approve the job description at least tonight and then

[22:57] next week. Um, I guess to we should reset a salary about I was thinking I

[23:04] was thinking um about $26 an hour.

[23:10] » Did you like look at other areas around here? What?

[23:13] » I did. Some one township near here is $26 now. Another is $30 per hour.

[23:20] » So, Any

[23:25] question?

[23:29] Okay. I'd like to get this um at least the job

[23:34] description approved this evening. Okay. Well, with um the inclusion of number

[23:41] nine, which is what the assessor um required requested.

[23:49] Um I'll make a motion that we approve the

[23:54] job description for the zoning administrator code enforcement

[24:02] » support. Okay, we have a motion support to approve the zoning administrator code

[24:07] enforcement job description. Um, any further questions?

[24:13] » If not, all in favor? >> I motion carries. There's a second part

[24:18] to this. We just recently had some things where

[24:23] we may have to write for a building violation some misdemeanor ticket. We

[24:29] investigate this end until we get the code enforcement official Chris Anderson

[24:36] recommend [clears throat] recommended she go but asked the board to give be

[24:41] the authority to write a ticket so in case if we have to process any kind of

[24:46] building violation >> it' be a misdemeanor ticket.

[24:52] So these tickets will be written for violations

[24:57] in um electrical.

[25:02] » Yeah. Or mechanical or >> mechanical.

[25:06] That's the scope of it. >> Yeah.

[25:09] » And this would be done in cooperation and coordination with the gentlemen that

[25:17] oversee those. >> What? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. with our

[25:21] inspectors. >> Yeah.

[25:24] » And Chris did recommend township will send two letters.

[25:30] If there's no compliance, she will send one,

[25:36] you know, and generally a letter from the legal council triggers some type of

[25:41] reaction. If not, she'll send two. And if there's no response, then because the

[25:48] court is going to want real detailed background, how far did you go to work

[25:53] with these people to get compliance? >> So, it's not going to probably happen.

[26:00] » Five letters, five letters, three from us,

[26:05] » a minimum of four possibly five. Two from us, two definitely from her. And

[26:10] then I guess it would be her discretion whether or not if they you know if they

[26:14] offer compliance then you know another letter to confirm that we've spoken and

[26:19] this is the understanding. >> Yeah.

[26:21] » Chris Anderson serves in this way. She's our prosecuting attorney. So she would

[26:26] submit the ticket with information to um district court

[26:32] hearing. I guess I'm not understanding why someone would hesitate to

[26:40] They're trying to build a house. They're trying to get into this house.

[26:45] Why would they Why would they not comply with what experts say is necessary to do

[26:52] that? >> It's not always about building anything.

[26:56] It's not about construction. It's about alteration, electrical alterations.

[27:03] So, >> well, I guess you know what you're

[27:06] talking Well, we have we have a circumstance right now.

[27:10] » Yeah. >> Yeah. We may

[27:11] » and it's electrical. >> Yeah. We may need to do this. So, I

[27:14] don't I'm just asking the board for to be the temporary code enforcement to

[27:19] write tickets until we hire. >> So, moved.

[27:24] » Okay. We have Do we have support? >> So, hold on a minute. [clears throat]

[27:30] This should actually be separate items on the agenda if we're doing two

[27:35] separate motions. I believe because we already made a motion to move postpone

[27:41] this a month because it would take time for the letters to

[27:43] » I don't think we need to postpone it. I just need to know how to put it in the

[27:46] minutes. >> Oh, that's interesting.

[27:48] » So, first, so we have have we already approved the language for the zoning

[27:54] administrator code enforcement. >> We just did that.

[27:58] » We've done that. So, so this is an addition.

[28:02] » It should have been an addition to the >> what we can do. If we have an incident,

[28:09] it's going to take time for letters to go out.

[28:12] » So, if we don't, we could we could revisit it at the

[28:17] » Well, I mean, I want to get the process in. I don't want to hold up people

[28:22] getting into their houses. Well, the first thing I what what I'm saying is

[28:27] there has to be four possibly five letters. That will take some time.

[28:31] » That's probably three months. >> Oh, before somebody before even be able

[28:37] I see. I see. >> Okay. So, we could put it off till next

[28:39] month. >> Yeah. Just do that.

[28:42] » We just sent our first letter. >> Okay. Then just do that just because I I

[28:46] don't know how to >> Okay.

[28:49] Okay. No problem. >> All right.

[28:51] » So, yeah, jot that down. I'll put that on the agenda for next month.

[28:55] » And the motion to tie for lack of support.

[28:59] » Let's say >> put to rest.

[29:06] » Okay. >> Any citizens comments?

[29:10] » One quick question. Is there this job? Is that a formal application to apply

[29:14] for the job or Well, we'll ask you um for interested applicants, send in a

[29:20] resume. I was talking to you a couple weeks ago. I said I was interested and I

[29:24] never heard that I had to do anything above that.

[29:27] » Yeah. It's just that you know just we understand like it's the code

[29:30] enforcement. Um I mean um Mr. Zenis I can get you a job description for you to

[29:36] look it up. >> Oh, but it didn't have it did not have

[29:40] the last number nine. >> Number nine.

[29:44] » I've got it. >> So did you get number nine?

[29:46] » Yes. >> Okay.

[29:47] » Okay. All right. So you can come come talk to me and I can describe it more in

[29:53] that in detail for you. >> Okay.

[29:55] » Okay. >> Anyone else has questions?

[30:01] » Um here's the um reports that I requested

[30:05] from the Freedom of Information Act regarding the accidents at

[30:10] intersections. And just to say this isn't complete for the fact that each

[30:16] No, they're all separate. There's only one copy.

[30:18] » Oh, >> at the top of each one 2024 Meiser and

[30:22] Indian Trail. >> Uhhuh.

[30:24] » 2025 Meiser. Now, this is why I'm saying for no good. Look at the total

[30:30] incidents. They're exactly the same. Wow.

[30:33] » So, I've been going back and forth with u the St. Clair County Sheriff officer

[30:39] regarding it. >> She says that it's it's normal. This is

[30:43] fine. We know at the corner of Meisner and

[30:48] Palms that it's St. Clair County Sheriff that shows up,

[30:52] » right? >> You have to request information for

[30:54] exactly what you want. >> So that's what I I did. I wanted St.

[30:58] Cloud Sheriff. >> Well, as I'm printing these out, I

[31:01] realized if you look, it's Michigan State um letter. So I again emailed her.

[31:08] The string of emails is just crazy. You can't talk. Like I'm like then somebody

[31:14] needs to explain these reports to me because how can this be and even the

[31:19] incidents within the total number is the same

[31:23] » like reasons why the accident happened. >> Um and when you voicemail you get a

[31:28] return email >> like there's nobody to actually say come

[31:32] on let's go over these reports together. Let's just say

[31:35] » the mission state police should call or >> uh no St. Clair County Sheriff. So that

[31:39] now her answer yesterday was it's all the same though, [clears throat]

[31:45] » but it wasn't the same when I were you talking to a clerk up there. Were you

[31:49] talking to one of the um border patrol? Um

[31:52] » um she's she's a um I mean I have her name and everything.

[31:59] » Um but I want to say she's an officer, but you know how some work at the desk,

[32:04] » right? Well, there's a there's um oh, I forget his name. Who's a deputy who's in

[32:10] charge of the road patrol up there? >> Up there.

[32:15] » This is her bottom of her email. >> Okay.

[32:20] » So, I guess it doesn't say who she is. What she is.

[32:23] » Okay. Captain patrol. I could get the captain of the road patrol.

[32:29] [cough] You may have to after meeting your contact information.

[32:37] And uh so I have an email back to her saying, "Wait, something's not right." I

[32:43] didn't even look at these, but as soon as I seen the state logo, okay, that's

[32:47] why the accidents are only five. If you look at Meer Palms, this is a 24.

[32:52] » I believe though all like information on that that the sheriff's department does

[32:57] funnel that to the state police and they do a lot of

[33:01] » and that would be fine. If it is all one total, that's fine, too. I don't care.

[33:05] The point is, I don't believe these totals are correct. So,

[33:09] » all right. really just I I went to the road

[33:12] commission meeting and I brought that up today this morning and and one of the

[33:17] fellas um said that he had I'm not sure exactly where he was from

[33:24] but but he he had gone down um Meister and almost didn't stop at Paul's road

[33:33] and he thought it was because of the roundabout traffic being deterred when

[33:39] they were putting that up and that's why there were so many accidents cuz there

[33:42] was the people were unfamiliar >> then that could very well be um I know

[33:48] cuz I talked to them before about a four-way here and they're hesitant

[33:53] because Palms Road is a truck route. >> Yeah.

[33:55] » Now they're more receptive when Church Road gets paid from Norway Highway to

[34:01] Meisner a four-way stop there because either Church Road nor Meer are truck

[34:05] truck routes. So, um, that's the one I know that's going to be the thing that

[34:10] » they they did tell me they're going to look into it.

[34:12] » Yeah, >> because like the Indian Trail that's not

[34:15] in Castle. So, >> I was just using that as another

[34:19] example. That report actually says the same each

[34:23] year. >> I would like to see a warway at Meer and

[34:26] the Palms. I think that didn't save. >> Well, I mean, I I don't want that. I

[34:30] actually I would actually totally fight that. I would be standing at that corner

[34:34] fighting it. Well, the the engineer was there today and and she said she would

[34:39] look into it, too, >> right? So,

[34:42] » um >> we'll see.

[34:43] » There's just, you know, like I said last meeting, I'm not for the one at church

[34:47] adviser either. >> Well, why?

[34:50] » Because people are too busy in their own heads anymore to pay attention. And the

[34:56] more things you have them pay attention to, the less it's going to get paid

[35:00] attention. I bet though the people that live in the area will disapp

[35:05] I live on a stop sign. I wish there wasn't one there. Go

[35:12] on your way. Don't stop and squeal and everything else that comes with living

[35:18] on a corner. >> I mean, you guys don't understand what

[35:21] it's like living on a corner. >> Yeah. Church in in Liz near the summit

[35:25] is going to be killed on that corner. >> Well, somebody's going to jail.

[35:28] » I understand that. But that road they used to they don't nobody pays attention

[35:32] on that corner. >> No.

[35:34] » Yeah. >> And there could be some issues there

[35:36] regarding when it used to be church road had to stop or misner had to stop and

[35:42] church was the >> drive. Yeah.

[35:44] » You know there's a lot of little changes that happened and

[35:47] » well I I did that one years ago up on Grasset where Grasset used to be the

[35:52] drive-thru for year. Okay. before we stopped there at um Gratchet and W.

[35:58] Well, they Grashet was always the drive-thru. Well, they changed it so at

[36:04] night there was a stop at Grath through W and so wrong.

[36:09] » I I actually almost went through that one night because I used to own a shop

[36:14] at the corner. >> No, that's confusing.

[36:16] » That's a that area is that's a local road.

[36:19] » It's a local >> Well, it's a county road, I should say,

[36:22] » right? It shouldn't be that way that that crash should not be the one.

[36:27] » I just had a few come in today. Um they just did it up in Grant Township where

[36:33] they put one of these um the the for the speed the the radar thing that shows

[36:39] that they say that actually lowers. So I'm thinking hey maybe like on my road

[36:44] maybe a good thing. So I'm going to investigate.

[36:47] » Amen. And then one other question

[36:51] that you guys just moved into the general fund account. What happens and

[36:56] what constitutes an emergency and does that money ever move back

[37:01] » to the general? >> The road the road commission determines

[37:04] whether it's or somebody calls and says, you know, we've got and it always

[37:09] happens usually by the overpasses. it just crers out, you know, and um and

[37:18] or the road commissioner will tell us or a resident will tell us then, you know,

[37:22] we're not going through that. >> So every year we just automatically do

[37:25] 20 and it's always useful. >> What it is then what they do there is

[37:29] they'll just put some limestone down. They don't they don't come in grade that

[37:34] because when they do at that time, especially in the frost, they'll just

[37:37] turn that into soup. So what they do is they'll put some limestone down, level

[37:42] it off a bit to deal with and limestone that stuff's cost.

[37:49] » Thank you. >> Yeah.

[37:50] » And the prices are due to increase. >> Okay. Any other questions? Yeah.

[37:55] » Any other questions? >> Okay. Um board comments.

[37:59] » I have one. Um, I contacted the grant program administrator from the MAMC

[38:07] um for our reimbursement for the ramp and he said that it was included with

[38:16] our request was included with their quarterly request to the MEDC. I don't

[38:20] know who the MEDC is, but he said that he's hoping within the next two weeks

[38:25] he'll get word and then the checks will be distributed. So, just following up on

[38:29] that. >> Yep. So hopefully within the next month

[38:32] we should get some money back. >> And the ramp project um we had a local

[38:35] contractor work on it. He did a good job. It doesn't look finished cuz it's

[38:40] not he's waiting for the um the weather the wood to age a bit and then he'll

[38:45] come and refinish it. So all right that >> Okay, Gia.

[38:51] » Okay. So, I went to the road commission meeting this morning and I found out and

[38:57] I don't know if that was just me that didn't know because sometimes it is that

[39:02] electric cars don't pay tax >> when they because they don't they don't

[39:08] get gas. So, they don't pay tax on gas. >> So, they just charge.

[39:12] » So, they have to pay more for their permits and stuff.

[39:16] » Okay. >> I did not know that but thinking about

[39:20] it. Yeah. It's >> weird. Mhm.

[39:21] » Yeah. >> So, anyway, I found that out. Um,

[39:26] let's see. The stone the stone prices are going to be available in February.

[39:31] And then there's an annual meeting. So, you're going to get a

[39:34] » email and there's different times. >> Yeah. We're always the road commission.

[39:38] We always meet with the road commission in late February.

[39:42] » 17th. >> Yeah. So, we'll um and we go up there.

[39:46] Board members want to come. We discussed that give us the cost of what the

[39:51] limestone with the chloride's going to be in different programs are doing.

[39:57] » Shame. >> Okay.

[40:01] » Yeah. >> So, Sanford Highway and Watams Road is

[40:05] going to get um round about >> this year.

[40:09] » What? I'm sorry. >> St. Highway and Watsams.

[40:12] » Oh, they're going to get a roundabout. and Shay and Stargo.

[40:19] » Shay and Star.

[40:30] Did you see those big holes on the side? >> Yeah, I didn't like that.

[40:34] » Wow.

[40:39] » Let's see what else.

[40:44] That's it. >> Okay. Thank you, Dan.

[40:46] » Oh, but I have another question. I'm sorry.

[40:50] » Okay. So, I got this I I don't know if it was today or yesterday's m and and

[40:56] I'm looking at this for inside of Lancing. So, the different um

[41:01] bills that were passed in December, >> I don't know if that's going to include

[41:06] everybody in the whole state. landslits. >> The first 10 acres

[41:14] » of a parent >> tract is to divide it up to 10 parcels.

[41:18] » Yep. >> Mhm.

[41:19] » 10 one acre. >> Yeah. But how can how can that be in a

[41:25] rural community? I know >> that depends on wells.

[41:29] » Yes. And septic fields. Yes. >> Well, yeah.

[41:35] » Water. >> Yeah. But we're protected by our

[41:38] » That's right. >> our zoning.

[41:44] » Well, that's a good question. That's a good question.

[41:49] » Yes. >> But and if and if they are, are they

[41:53] going to supply us with water? >> Right. I mean, that's

[42:00] » Well, it's interesting. Um folks, last week I was looking at the minutes from

[42:06] 30 years ago and the planning commission and they talked about our cases width to

[42:12] depth ratio for our lots is 20 to1. They talked about making it 4 to one. But

[42:18] they their view at the time was having the long deep lots would preserve our

[42:26] rural character because once you break apart land it's hard to put it back

[42:31] together. >> Developers like big undeveloped lots. If

[42:38] you go down 26 mile road, you see McCome Township with those big side bars.

[42:43] » That's future grounds for subdivision cuz 10 years ago, 20 years ago, that was

[42:48] on 23 mile road, those side cars. >> So, and that's one and I was thinking

[42:55] that that was set back in the 60s, our thing. And uh I said, "Yeah, that that

[43:01] would do that." So, Richmond Township, they have a thing where they do

[43:05] agricultural preservation. They allow development by the road smaller lots but

[43:09] behind them the bigger agricultural fields are protected. So but that was a

[43:15] decision they made back at that time too. So um yeah they knew development

[43:21] coming when 94 was put in in the early 60s through the township here.

[43:28] » Okay. Any questions? >> Nope. network.

[43:32] » Um I got a little postcard in the mail today um just as I was coming uh from

[43:39] St. Clair County. It says their new 2025 um updated platin. So I'm buying one for

[43:48] our house and I'd like to have one for the township just to see it's have 25

[43:53] years of growth and that's and splits and things like that.

[43:57] » So that'll be good. I have with me. So, I'll um maybe put in an order tomorrow.

[44:02] I think the platin mat itself is $45.

[44:09] So, >> a new one.

[44:12] » Okay. And I read I read something else in here and I can't find it now, but do

[44:15] they move the election to May? >> No, there there's May is always set for

[44:23] an election if it's there's like a school election or something. Okay.

[44:25] Yeah. It's not the >> I haven't heard that we have anything.

[44:30] » All right. >> Okay. Um Okay. I tal already talked

[44:34] about um right now the church road paving right now. They're just they I've

[44:40] been getting a lot of calls because they've been putting stakes and that

[44:43] what they're going to do some of their surveying work. Um people have been

[44:47] asking when they're going to do the paving. It's set for 2026 sometime. They

[44:52] haven't did the engineering work. Once they do that and start to get some

[44:56] quotes, they'll know more. Um the road commission did tell me the um director

[45:02] that we're going to be doing a double chip seal on Springborn Lane, Mismir

[45:08] Lane, and Lindsay Lane. That's that new surface preservation program. So that'll

[45:14] be what they're going to spend it on this year. If the funding continues to

[45:19] stay, next year we'll do putty cut lane and Sincler highway lane and [snorts]

[45:24] any extra we could put toward if Sincler highway doesn't need it, we could put it

[45:30] toward our limestone hall, our main limestone hall.

[45:33] » But they're just doing the first mile of Church Road off of 26.

[45:39] » Uh, no, they'll be doing the um two miles from Highway to Me.

[45:46] So, what do you prefer? What do you think is going to happen with your truck

[45:49] traffic then? >> Trust me, it's bad enough now on my You

[45:54] say that's not a truck route. >> Yeah,

[45:56] » it's a truck route. >> And it's not just tough trucking.

[45:59] [laughter] >> Well, anyone that trucks that travel, it

[46:02] should be local that actually live in the township or that. It's not a through

[46:07] um >> Yeah, it's not to have a job.

[46:10] » It's not supposed to know. Well, that's miser county road, but I could check

[46:14] into that. >> West Highway when they posted that, that

[46:17] eliminated a lot of that. So,

[46:22] » Sler Highway is a local. >> Well, that's what it's going to be.

[46:26] » No, >> that's what it's going to be.

[46:29] » Are you serious? >> I think so. 55.

[46:32] » It's 55 on Meer, >> which I would like to see somebody 55

[46:38] on. Yeah, there there's nobody driving unless you broke down the road. The

[46:44] » the speed limit on our um limestone roads is 55 miles an hour unless posted.

[46:51] Yeah. >> In order to go through that process,

[46:54] you would have to get it's archer. You have to have the

[46:59] director of road commission um representative from the sheriff's

[47:02] department representative from the state police and from they do a study

[47:08] » and then you have somebody to enforce it.

[47:10] » Yeah. >> Copy.

[47:13] » Yeah. That's the thing. The sh um residents on highway trucks. Okay.

[47:20] Engine brake. Instead of using their regular brakes, they use the engine to

[47:23] slow it down. And you always have >> Oh, is that what that means?

[47:28] Jake, >> they would like a sign up. They have

[47:32] further one further down on Marine City Highway near the roundabout. I mean

[47:36] Fredmore Highway near the roundabout at lots. No engine break. Well, I talked to

[47:42] the road commission. They said, "Well, you have to enforce it. It's on a county

[47:46] road. The sheriff's they sit there parked a lot.

[47:49] » I think they have one on King Road between 31."

[47:52] » So, the thing is that I'm going to press for more on that.

[47:55] » Yeah. Because yeah, that's a problem. Especially those folks, they're trying

[47:59] to sleep at night, the trucks come down, >> that wakes them up from that.

[48:04] » We had a sign last year someone had apparently there was a problem with uh

[48:08] idiots passing school buses instead of stopping to let the kids go on and

[48:12] someone I don't know who it was, but there was actually a trailer mounted

[48:15] light right on there for I think for the summer.

[48:18] » Yeah. What happened is it was there on my road and we got the sheriff's

[48:23] department to monitor that for a while there because that there was people who

[48:27] was the bus was there fourway >> and they passed it

[48:31] » really >> I know somebody whose child was killed

[48:36] that way >> off the bus is striking

[48:40] » yeah you know like someone said well there's no house on your side but kids

[48:44] are impulsive >> yes they are

[48:46] » you know they can even look at they could be running

[48:48] » a lot of times I don't even see him. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's just

[48:52] » Yeah. But uh Okay. Anything else? >> That was

[48:56] » okay. I think we're >> um Thank you for the questions and

[49:00] Denny, thank you for your concern, your safety. That is very well intended and

[49:05] appreciated. So, >> okay, we're up to a journ.

[49:09] » Make a motion to adjurnn. >> All in favor? I motion carries.

[49:21] » [music]

CASCO BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING (1-13-2026)

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