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Hi. This is
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>> That's right. Yeah.
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That's what I say.
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No,
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you're right. Trust me.
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They said this lesson.
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» [snorts]
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» You see something?
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Just wait.
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Sorry.
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This is it.
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>> Oh, that's all.
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It's just
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how are you?
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» Oh sh
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in the car.
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I'm the age that really matters.
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>> Good evening everyone. Thanks for
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coming.
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I would like to start by introducing
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myself.
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My name is Kim Wigginson. I'm the chair
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of the housing committee and Miss
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Patrick is the co-chair.
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I just wanted to take a few minutes for
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everyone to introduce theirelves so I
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can put the names of the faces.
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If you don't mind, you want to start.
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Hello, I'm Monica Cook.
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>> And I'm Bob Hoffman.
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>> I'm Amanda Yarum.
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>> Jackie Cook,
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>> Harvey Andrew,
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>> and Sean O'Brien, assistant corporation
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counsel.
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>> Welcome everybody. I'm glad everybody
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could be here tonight.
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Um
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I would like everybody to know that um
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we got work to do. So with that being
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said, I would like to call the housing
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stability task force into order.
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We will stay on task
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and first we're going to first thing on
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the agenda is to review the enacting
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legislation resolution
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2025
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138
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» a resolution established a city housing
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stability task force whereas the city of
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Mr. Skenctity city council would like to
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evaluate gaps and possible solutions in
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tenant protection, housing
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affordability, displacement and
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neighborhood stability and comprehensive
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approach. Whereas to assist in such
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evaluation, the city council would like
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to input
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from stakeholders, including landlords
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that own properties in the city, tenants
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that live in the city, Skenctity based
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housing advocates that serve the city,
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residents and landlords, [clears throat]
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Skenctity based non nonprofits that
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serve the city residents and landlords
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and developers that serve the city here
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in and here here and after stakeholders.
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We asked the city council wishes to
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establish a housing stability task force
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to conduct an exclusive evidence based
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assessment of current housing
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conditions, rental market trends,
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evictions, eviction data, community
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needs, and potential impact of
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alternatives to opting in to good cause
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eviction law in the city of Skenley.
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Now wherefore be it resolved a housing
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stability task force, it is established
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which will be compromised
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com
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of nine volunteer stakeholders including
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[clears throat] one member of the city
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council who shall be the chair of the
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task force. Be it further resolved the
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housing that the housing stability task
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force shall be charged with conducting a
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review of the local housing trends,
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eviction filings, rent burdens and
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vacancy rates, hosting public forums and
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engaging stakeholders with voices across
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the housing spectrum and live perception
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review and public input reporting within
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[clears throat]
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120 days of the first meeting.
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the potential impact of the good cause
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eviction and skinnity and recommending
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short and long long-term strategies to
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stabilize housing without increasing
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regulatory burdens unnecessarily and be
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it yet further resolved that the task
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force shall com
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[clears throat]
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comprise nine members to the appointed
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to be appointed
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by the city council.
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Be in debt further resolve that the
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first meeting of those
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the first meeting and those thereafter
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of the housing stability task force
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shall be called at least once at least
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once city council members on notice to
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the public via the city clerk in the
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same manner that the city council's
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meetings are published.
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Okay. Um
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discussions.
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Um we wanted to um collaborations with
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one skinnity
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and um we have some literature here and
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some data that um is going to be
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presented by Miss Pertaining
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to those
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do you want me to just uh say it's about
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so once meets the first Thursday of
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every month um from 8 to 9. And this is
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a presentation that you have in front of
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you that I presented um in February. And
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I just it was really a great um
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collaboration and it talked about
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housing issues and this is full of
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statistics um regarding evictions but I
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just wanted to tell you about one
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strategy. Um their main purpose is
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coming together as a whole um that aims
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to connect, empower, and mobilize
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tenants, homeowners, landlords,
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neighborhood leaders, real estate
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professionals, elected officials, and
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staff in the city and county of
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Skenctity to create and maintain quality
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homes for all and neighborhoods where
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everyone can thrive. And everyone who
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attends is usually from the community,
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nonprofit organizations, people who are
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basically coming together like this
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housing task force is as well.
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[clears throat] And in here, it talks
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about all of the statistics about um
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evictions. It has really, you know, and
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I'm not going to give everything, but if
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you go through it, what you want to
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know, the median household income in
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city of Sket, unemployment in the city,
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all things that contribute to evictions
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um in Skenctity and the capital region.
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Um so read through it. It talks also
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about the rent burden in Skenctity.
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um the vacancies in terms of housing and
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schedules and what policy solutions have
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been pursued
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um so far. So again, I'm not going to go
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through it, but it does talk about um
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rental certificate program eviction
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policies, exactly what is that, the nuts
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and bolts. Um, and then it really goes
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through and explains um the pros and the
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cons about the good cause eviction
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policy. Um so again, read through it and
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if anybody's interested in attending um
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the meetings that are once a month, you
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can find them on Facebook um and can
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click like there's a little link and
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they'll send you the monthly Zoom call
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um link and we attend via
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» Okay. Thank you, Monica. Um I wanted to
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we want to um have a discussion in the
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areas of housing challenges to focus on
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that we have to focus on being hotels
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being used for temporary housing
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identifying the local hotels. No sorry
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hotels being used for temporary housing
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that's becoming an issue that I find.
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Do anybody have any output for that? I
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know um there's been a number of people
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that come to our pantries
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and I have heard from them that there
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are certain hotels that throw mothers
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and children out during the day no
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matter what the weather is so that they
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can clean now things like that. I don't
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know how anyone else feels, but I kind
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of think that's atrocious to do that to
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a family who's already in trouble and
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you think to the street for hours while
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you clean,
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right?
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Great.
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Anyone else?
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Okay. Identif we going to we want to
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identify local hotels used by DSS
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for housing. There's um there's an issue
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with people being in hotels over a year
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that living there like a state house
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when it's not.
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[snorts]
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um
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>> a year.
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>> Yeah. [clears throat]
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>> Living there a year or better.
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>> Yes.
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So, we definitely got to tackle what we
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can do and what we can come up with
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resources and datas for that. And also,
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if anybody knows the list of hotels that
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DSS is um working with
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as far as housing, that would be great.
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Can we just ask DSS for that
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information?
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>> We could do that also.
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>> I get a lot of hopeless people at the
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pantries.
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>> Yeah, madam madam chair. Yeah, perhaps a
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request for information from the county
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department of social services regarding
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these questions. What hotels?
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>> Identify the hotels paid. Uh according
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to this report that you were all given
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tonight and the [clears throat] local
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social services districts that's the
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county uh county social services
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who according to this state regulations
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require them to inspect hotels and motel
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housing homeless every six months and
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further the new reg the regulations uh
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also require them to file a six-month
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inspection for hotels to OTAA office of
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temporary disabilities insurance
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assistance. So I think those points that
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you had in the discussion are you know
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requests for information for the for the
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county to provide those numbers and
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according to this they're if they're
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housing if DSS is housing the you know
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folks in in invable
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list and according to this report they
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be infecting the conditions every six
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months. So, um,
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>> but we know that's not that's not
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happening.
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>> Well, we should be asking also for the
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inspection.
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>> I mean, they they
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>> the reports of the inspection.
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>> Yeah. It requires them to do the
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inspections every six months and uh so
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probably should request the most recent
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[clears throat] inspection reports to
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hotels.
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>> Maybe they should do them more often in
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six months. Well, I' I'd be curious to
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see how many hotels have the same
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problems across the board.
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>> You know, that would tell us a lot, I
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think.
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>> Or how timely the inspections are
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because if the if it's they're supposed
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to do it every six months given we're
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coming out of the pandemic and short of
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staff, are the inspections being done? I
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think that's, you know, that's more
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important.
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>> And what the deficiencies are, are they
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dangerous deficiencies, cosmetic
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deficiencies? What are they exactly?
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>> Depending on the turnover too determine
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how often it's being done.
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[clears throat]
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>> So I think that that could be formulated
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a request for information to the
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commissioner of social services for give
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them a, you know, time to report back.
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You know, not a lot of time because your
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suspense period for reporting back to
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the council was kind of condensed.
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[clears throat]
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So
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I don't think a 3 week at least some of
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the information should be able to be
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gathered rather quickly.
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>> Thank you for asking.
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» So um we can help draft letter next
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week. you know.
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>> Okay. Well, we'll work with the city clerk's office and you mad chair to formulate a letter
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to the commission. [clears throat]
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» Great.
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All right. Another discussion I wanted
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to have. I know DSS is paying a fair
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amount for people to stay in hotels.
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So
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my whole thing with that is I think it
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would be cheaper for them to get people
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housing opposed to paying all the money
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for these hotels
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really. So
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we need to come up with some kind of
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ideas that we could pres present to see
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how we can go about people
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staying in the hotels for like 90 days
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but then having some place to go after
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that.
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>> Then I guess we would have to look at
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what the housing stock truly is in this
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area especially uh the housing that's uh
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been put aside for people of low income.
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You know, if we know what how much how
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many pieces are available, that might
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help us uh find a way to accomplish what
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you want to accomplish.
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» I'm just trying to understand why would
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someone be staying in a hotel for a
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year? It's
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>> quick and easy.
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get them off the street immediately.
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>> Yes.
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>> Well, I understandable
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» and then they they
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>> is it that they get lost in the system?
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Is it that you know maybe some sort of
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disability whether it's physical or
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mental
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>> that you know apartments are not
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>> usually they don't have jobs. They don't
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have jobs.
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>> And then being in those conditions, the
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will to thrive is not good at all.
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As a a followup to the question for
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information, if you ask how long what's
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the average amount of pictures staying
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in temporary housing, hotels, hotels,
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and what is the transition to permanent
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housing? What's the, you know, what's
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the plan? What does DSS I don't know. I
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mean, does DSS have a plan to transition
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folks to permanent housing? I don't I
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don't know. And that's something I think
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you're all want to find out.
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>> Living living in a hotel is really hard
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on a lot of these families. They come
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and I can only have this kind of stuff
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because I only have a microwave, so I'm
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not really cooking. Can you please give
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me a can opener provide it? There's a
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lot of
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>> There's no stove in the hotel. Yeah,
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there's a lot of really bad points to
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being in hotels compared to,
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>> you know, a real atmosphere where you
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can be a family or or have some personal
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growth, right?
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» Okay. Do the hotels meet the cold
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standards? I know for a fact
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I've seen seen some hotels
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daily
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[laughter]
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and it's it's horrible for people to
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have to live that way. So that's
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something else that you know is my pet
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peeve that I would like to you know get
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some answers for and figure out how we
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can move forward for that to so they can
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be regulated and mandated to hold you
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know inspections
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» that's going to be a really long drawn
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out process.
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we got work to do
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>> not just coming up with solutions
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because you don't want to displace
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anybody while they're doing renovations
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and you don't want to create hardship.
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Mhm.
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>> So it's how do you fix it because it's
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not something that you could and then
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maybe you know a hotel is a business
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they may not want to invest in fixing so
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or they may not want to go through the
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process
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>> right
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>> of the bureaucracy I guess the best way
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of putting it. So what happens then what
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happens to those uh residents that stay
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in there? Well, I think we need to start
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with DSS
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>> informing them of, you know, what we're
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considering and what we're trying to do
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to make our community better. And then
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we all have to put our heads together
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cuz we have to start somewhere.
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>> Oh, I agree 100%. I'm not disagreeing
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with No,
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>> I just um you know, it's definitely no
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quick solution. That's
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>> What about code enforcement? Checking
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with them and finding out what their
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standards are. Are they the department
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that would regulate the hotels? Well, do
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they regulate the hotel?
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>> This part
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to check every six months,
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>> but not the city. Most of a lot of them
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are not in the city. It's a county.
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>> I mean, we can we can solve a lot of
[24:05]
these problems by having somebody from
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DSS come as a speaker. We already had
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that plan
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>> previously
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>> and then we all kind of went on vacation
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for a number of months. Um, but we
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should invite somebody from DSS here and
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tell them these are the points we want
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to talk about and bring all the
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information. We kind of, you know, pedal
[24:24]
them backwards a little bit
[24:27]
[clears throat]
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>> and then we have to state law will
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supersede county laws. So, are we
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infringing on anything? So, that's the
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other thing that we have to look at.
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Well, the the the county DSS is has to
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comply with state regulations regarding
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regard regarding the housing of that
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existence. That's what this
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report thinks out there is no they have
[24:52]
to responsibility make sure that the
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with local code you know local codes as
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well as the reports they have to submit
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to office of temporary disorary
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disabilities
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that yes
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» the majority of this falls on People
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walk into the county DSS at 4:30 and
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they have to find a place to stay that
[25:23]
night.
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>> That's where your hotels come and then
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it's a process for them to find a house.
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And you can imagine as many different
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kinds of people and family there are,
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there's that many different stories and
[25:33]
paths that have to be followed. So, it's very complicated. I'm not sure it's
[25:38]
something that the county issues,
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you know, we can address and I'm not
[25:43]
sure that that's why we're here to solve
[25:45]
the county issues. we should get
[25:46]
somebody from DSS in here and see where
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we fit in the process.
[25:51]
>> Well, these were some ideas and
[25:53]
something that was on my heart that I
[25:56]
wanted to bring to the forefront that we
[25:58]
could start seeking and searching, see
[26:00]
what we can do and we're coming up with
[26:02]
suggestions. So, for our next meeting,
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you know, hopefully we can reach out to
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these people and they will come and we
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can get some type of answers.
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Okay.
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So, we're going to let hotels meet the
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goals we just talked about.
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[clears throat] We also talked about
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who's responsible.
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Um, we have the city of Skenctity Fair
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Housing event coming up April 21st.
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Thank you. [laughter]
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» I wouldn't been here all day.
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>> Um, is anyone interested in going to any
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of these workshops?
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» It was great. It was a very informative
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event. Last year I went this year. I'm
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going to be um out of the area.
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Unfortunately, I spoke to um
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and I that would be the day I was could
[27:20]
be certainly informative and a good day.
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Mrs. Le where is it at this show?
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Yeah. So it's better than
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>> and they also they have the workshops
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come on and they also have the um they
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have the award ceremony 6 to 9.
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If anyone is interested in going they
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can see me after.
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Okay. Okay, we're going to do a little
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delegation here.
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I need some help and we really need to
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get some answers by community. So we
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have Monica who's collaborating already
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with the um once connectity
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who would be willing to um
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see what our city regulations is as far
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as the hotels
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>> who oversees it speaking to code. Is
[28:33]
that what you're referring to? Yeah, I
[28:35]
need to point some points. So, I need to
[28:37]
take care of that.
[28:38]
>> I'll do that.
[28:39]
>> You'll do that.
[28:57]
Wow. We're getting in touch with someone
[28:59]
from DSS.
[29:02]
Um,
[29:06]
can someone identify the local hotels
[29:09]
that they know that are um unhoused
[29:15]
families are living in
[29:20]
that?
[29:22]
>> Absolutely.
[29:23]
>> Yeah.
[29:28]
So, um,
[29:31]
Jacqueline, you work at the you work
[29:33]
with the, um, food pantries.
[29:36]
>> I am the executive director of St.
[29:38]
Luke's uh, St. Henity
[29:41]
Shares.
[29:42]
>> Okay.
[29:45]
Would you know any names of these
[29:47]
hotels?
[29:48]
>> I have spies on the streets that tell me
[29:51]
that and I've asked a few because I know
[29:53]
they're working next week. Okay. Because
[29:55]
it's not guaranteed that we get
[29:58]
>> um social services.
[29:59]
>> You're never going to find outs
[30:02]
>> that hotels are throwing mothers and
[30:05]
children out in the day to clean. You're
[30:06]
never going to hear that anywhere up in
[30:08]
the mouths of people on the street,
[30:11]
>> right? So that's why trying to give
[30:13]
everybody a job here to do the see what
[30:15]
we can gather together so that when we
[30:17]
do get them here, we've got proof. This
[30:20]
is happening that's happening. You know,
[30:24]
we have a leg to stand on.
[30:25]
>> And I think Community Action would
[30:27]
probably know what they would know a lot
[30:29]
of.
[30:30]
>> Absolutely. They would know.
[30:31]
>> Yep.
[30:35]
» Yeah. We get a number of homeless people
[30:37]
every week coming signing up at the food
[30:39]
pantry and we ask them where they live,
[30:42]
where they're staying, and we ask them,
[30:44]
you know, what do you need? And they
[30:47]
always need the same. Oh, I only have a
[30:49]
microwave. It's a little thing, you
[30:50]
know.
[30:51]
Netflix offensive too.
[30:53]
>> They they like to complain and tell us
[30:55]
when there's a problem. [snorts]
[30:56]
>> And since I know Gary Hughes very well,
[30:58]
I have been known to pick up the phone
[31:00]
and tell him and he immediately jumps on
[31:03]
it. I can tell you that.
[31:11]
» Okay. So, Jacqueline, you'll be getting
[31:13]
us the list of names.
[31:15]
>> I will do my best, ma'am.
[31:17]
>> I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
[31:21]
Um,
[31:26]
Mr. Hoffman, would you be able to check
[31:30]
with our public reports to see or
[31:34]
somebody from the county to see how our
[31:37]
um how the hotels get inspected? I
[31:40]
thought I was doing
[31:47]
» Okay, sorry about that. That's right.
[31:49]
sphere. Um, we got our data done some of
[31:53]
the data.
[31:57]
So, I think really that's about it for now.
[32:04]
>> Kim, I have a couple things I want to
[32:05]
mention. I would love a roster of our
[32:08]
committee contact information. Sure. I
[32:10]
see the email addresses on if you search
[32:12]
for them on the emails, but I'd love a
[32:14]
roster
[32:15]
>> so I can start putting faces with names.
[32:17]
Sure. And and the second point is I'm
[32:20]
not on Facebook.
[32:22]
>> So, praise the Lord. [laughter]
[32:26]
>> So, I would love to give you my email
[32:28]
address. You can send me the link.
[32:31]
>> Oh, sure.
[32:35]
» And the other thing I'm going to
[32:36]
suggest, there's a terrific book out
[32:38]
there called Evicted.
[32:40]
>> The evicted
[32:40]
>> by Matthew Des.
[32:43]
He's won all kinds of awards, started a
[32:45]
not for profofit. It's anyone that deals
[32:47]
with eviction has to read it.
[32:50]
>> When I was on the bench, I made
[32:52]
everybody under me read it.
[32:55]
>> It's a great book. He's won pulled
[32:56]
surprises. He started not for profofits
[32:58]
to help the victim people.
[33:00]
[clears throat] And it takes you into
[33:01]
the lives of these people. It's going to
[33:03]
answer a lot of your questions
[33:05]
>> about what's going on. This is it's it's
[33:08]
in Milwaukee, which is a bigger city
[33:10]
than here, but it just it follows like a
[33:13]
dozen people's lives and how they get
[33:17]
evicted and what their lives are like.
[33:18]
And everybody should just It's just a
[33:20]
great book. You should read it. Evicted
[33:22]
by Matt Desmond. I'm sure it's in I have
[33:25]
two copies. I passed them around to my
[33:27]
staff. What's that?
[33:28]
>> What? Who's the author?
[33:29]
>> Matthew Desmond. Like the hotelically,
[33:33]
right?
[33:34]
>> Well, if I could borrow a copy, that
[33:35]
would be good.
[33:37]
Yeah, I'm sure they have it there, but
[33:38]
I'll try to bring mine to the next
[33:40]
meeting. Um, but you know, when I heard
[33:42]
some of the questions here, I'm like,
[33:43]
"Wow, I got to read the book."
[33:45]
[clears throat]
[33:45]
>> Uh, because it it gets you in some
[33:49]
empathetic, you know, uh, state of mind.
[33:53]
>> So, you kind of understand this a little
[33:54]
bit more.
[33:55]
>> Yeah.
[33:56]
>> You know, some people spend their entire
[33:58]
lives of avoiding addiction.
[34:01]
>> That's what they do.
[34:04]
And you can imagine how difficult. So if
[34:06]
they get an extra $200 $300, they're not
[34:09]
giving it to rent.
[34:11]
>> They're going out and buying a loss.
[34:14]
And this book brings this stuff home.
[34:17]
>> Um so I just think it's a great
[34:18]
resource. It's a good idea for everybody
[34:20]
to read that if you're involved in this
[34:22]
kind of thing. Um so I'll write down my
[34:25]
email.
[34:28]
>> Can you introduce yourself? I'm sorry.
[34:29]
>> I'm sorry. I'm walk school.
[34:32]
>> How you doing? Yeah. And um originally
[34:34]
from New York City. Um
[34:37]
been in Skenctity maybe while now a good
[34:41]
decade now. But um I know about
[34:46]
>> my dad lives in a rent state apartment.
[34:49]
His rents about maybe 700 relatively
[34:54]
>> and I can help in that area.
[34:56]
>> Okay.
[34:57]
>> Yeah. Some type of rent control. He has
[34:59]
connect me.
[35:00]
>> Okay. So you got that part.
[35:02]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[35:03]
>> Thank you.
[35:04]
>> Okay.
[35:05]
>> Yes. Yes.
[35:08]
>> Um anyone else have any input? Any
[35:11]
concerns?
[35:13]
>> Madam Chairman, I I would just add
[35:15]
chairman. Um I would just add that you
[35:17]
know a lot of the information in your
[35:19]
task force is is is charged to report
[35:22]
back to the city council is in this in
[35:26]
uh in this [laughter]
[35:28]
given
[35:32]
» [clears throat]
[35:32]
>> So I I would recommend that the group
[35:35]
look at it, digest it and if they feel
[35:38]
comfortable with the numbers and the
[35:40]
sources, etc. in that um then they would
[35:43]
use that as a base to make a you know
[35:46]
once you make your findings and
[35:48]
recommendations you can adopt some of
[35:50]
the information that's already contained
[35:52]
in here because you the eviction rates
[35:54]
and things like that. One of the things
[35:57]
in the resolution charging charging with
[35:59]
task force field.
[36:01]
>> So we're looking forward that
[36:02]
>> yes.
[36:03]
So take a look at that you know it's getting
[36:10]
what we want. We're happy with that and
[36:13]
that you know and following up on what
[36:17]
was you know it's it's it's not only the hotels but also transition housing
[36:22]
and affordable that
[36:25]
>> and as well as evictions it's that you
[36:29]
got the hotels what's the transition
[36:31]
plan for long-term housing
[36:35]
for that affordability. So,
[36:37]
>> okay,
[36:38]
>> those are those are areas you can focus
[36:40]
in on, [clears throat]
[36:46]
» but um
[36:48]
this was a lot of reading and I wish I
[36:50]
had time to prepare before I got here.
[36:54]
So, if you know I would appreciate it if
[36:56]
maybe we could get a little bit earlier.
[36:58]
>> Well, this this this is my first
[37:00]
meeting. Yeah. you know, I wanted to
[37:02]
bring everybody together, you know, and
[37:04]
I didn't expect anything to really get
[37:06]
done today, but just giving everybody an
[37:09]
idea of what we're facing and, you know,
[37:13]
>> yep,
[37:14]
>> everybody get familiar with everybody
[37:16]
and everybody put their input in and
[37:19]
>> it's going to become a lot more
[37:20]
complicated if you listen to the
[37:23]
administration no longer wants the
[37:25]
federal government to deal with
[37:28]
Medicaid. He wants to push it to the
[37:29]
cities. SNAP has changed as of FIBO
[37:32]
first. So, we're going to be dealing
[37:33]
with that three months down the road.
[37:36]
Um, health insurance, he wants, you
[37:38]
know, like I said, Medicaid, Medicare,
[37:41]
and housing. Housing, he doesn't want to
[37:43]
pay for people. He'd rather not do that.
[37:47]
I almost said some
[37:51]
but you know we have to look at the all
[37:53]
those things go along with housing every
[37:55]
bit of it you know whether they have
[37:58]
food whether they have medical
[38:01]
you know it's not just the roof over
[38:02]
your head hip because all three go
[38:03]
together so I think we're going to walk
[38:05]
into a lot more things than we think
[38:07]
we're going to walk in just trying to
[38:09]
deal with housing
[38:16]
» well I'm sure everyone here is dedicated
[38:19]
and feel the same way I feel. And
[38:22]
>> yeah,
[38:23]
>> we have a long road ahead of us.
[38:26]
>> Ahead of us,
[38:28]
>> but um
[38:29]
>> I have faith and I know we can conquer
[38:31]
some things.
[38:33]
>> Something has to be done. You're
[38:34]
absolutely correct.
[38:35]
>> Yes.
[38:36]
>> You know, I have had people come to the
[38:37]
panic who are living in dumpsters.
[38:40]
>> You know, I I' I've seen it all at this
[38:43]
point. Yeah. You know, I really it's
[38:45]
just beautiful things that happen to
[38:47]
people.
[38:47]
>> Yeah. Last time, the last meeting, I
[38:50]
think in October, I was telling God,
[38:51]
these people living in the cemetery.
[38:53]
>> Yeah. Well, that was street where street
[38:55]
soldiers started was the people living
[38:57]
in the cemeteries. They wanted to help
[39:00]
them. So, they gave them tents.
[39:03]
>> Tents kept gave them shelter. But the
[39:06]
tents also provided a place for bad
[39:09]
actors to go in and steal from them and
[39:11]
hurt them and raped them and did
[39:13]
terrible things. And the police
[39:14]
department, I've spoken with certain
[39:16]
police, highly placed police officers
[39:19]
who said they were trying to help, but
[39:20]
in a way they really didn't because
[39:23]
these people thought they were safe
[39:24]
until they realized they weren't safe.
[39:26]
[clears throat]
[39:27]
>> So, I mean, yeah, everybody needs a roof
[39:30]
over their head and when you're
[39:31]
desperate, you'll pretty much do
[39:33]
anything. No,
[39:34]
>> we have people sleeping outside St.
[39:35]
Luke's all the time. Right on right in
[39:37]
the door next to my office in the
[39:39]
pantry. I usually find people sleeping
[39:41]
and we feed them in the morning, give
[39:42]
them, you know, coffee, whatever we can
[39:44]
do. But you can only do so much.
[39:46]
>> Yeah. [clears throat]
[39:51]
» Okay. I have two tenative dates for our
[39:54]
next meeting.
[39:56]
I have April 28 at 6 or May 1st
[40:02]
at 6. How does that work for
[40:05]
>> April 28th at no?
[40:09]
>> Um, Tuesday is the 28th.
[40:11]
>> Oh,
[40:12]
>> and Friday is the May 1st.
[40:14]
>> I see.
[40:16]
>> May
[40:17]
>> I prefer May 1st?
[40:18]
>> May 1st.
[40:20]
>> I can do either. I can do May 1st. So,
[40:23]
>> neither of them work for me.
[40:26]
>> That's right. I zoom in or something.
[40:32]
Uh can any of these meetings uh be
[40:35]
virtual?
[40:36]
>> We don't have that capability. We
[40:38]
haven't adopted a local virtual
[40:41]
meetings. Okay. Meetings have in person
[40:47]
have inerson meetings. So we really do I
[40:50]
do a lot of Zoom meetings. It's not the
[40:51]
same.
[40:56]
Anyone else have any last minute
[40:59]
concerns or
[41:02]
>> no? But if anyone needs help with their
[41:05]
assignments, please feel free to reach
[41:08]
out.
[41:08]
>> Amanda, what what do you feel like you
[41:10]
should do? Because like I said, I'm new
[41:12]
at this. I appreciate any and all help
[41:15]
and we all going to work together. Um,
[41:18]
I can't think of anything right now, but
[41:20]
I mean if you know if you're having
[41:22]
issues getting through or making contact
[41:24]
with code enforcement or you know you
[41:27]
guys are having issues getting data that
[41:29]
you need, just reach out. I'll be
[41:31]
willing to help.
[41:32]
>> Okay. I'm going to be reaching out to
[41:33]
each each one of you from now until our
[41:36]
next meeting, putting our heads
[41:38]
together, let you know we're here. we
[41:39]
can share information and we're going to
[41:41]
get a roster out with everybody's email
[41:44]
so everyone can communicate back and
[41:46]
forth. Also,
[41:47]
>> when is our roughly deadline?
[41:50]
>> Um, our deadline for information to be
[41:53]
in is going to be July 6.
[41:57]
I have to have a
[41:58]
>> the full report together. Put
[42:01]
>> that over.
[42:04]
My next meeting is May. May
[42:06]
>> first right here.
[42:10]
We'll draft a letter to the commission
[42:13]
services requesting that
[42:17]
first
[42:20]
[clears throat]
[42:22]
» Daniel
[42:36]
pretty
[42:39]
All right. Um, meetings adjourned. Thank
[42:42]
you everyone.
[42:46]
» Matthew Matthew.
[42:49]
>> I'm gonna see if I can find
[42:51]
>> I'm sure it's in the library. I'm sure
[42:53]
it's on.
[42:54]
>> Maybe I find it on Amazon. or if the
[42:57]
audience
[43:15]
[laughter]
[43:29]
told me she I had