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6:00 on August 17th will come to order.
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May I have a roll call, please?
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» Cheeseman
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» Here.
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» Gilbertson
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» Here.
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» Hellwick
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» Here.
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» Jenna Wine
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» Here.
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» Lever
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» Here.
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» Lias here.
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» Mura
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» Here.
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» Taller
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» Here.
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» Major O Kelly
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» Here. Will you please join me for the
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pledge of
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» Allegiance
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to the flag of the United States of
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America and to the republic for which it
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stands. One nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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» Thank you very much.
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So, we've all received the minutes for
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the three meetings we've had since the
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last time we met. Has anybody have had a
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chance to read them? have any comments,
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corrections, revisions to the minutes of
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the last three meetings, including the
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one the orientation meeting
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» And move approval.
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» Move approval. I have a move to a motion
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to approve. Do I have a second?
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» Second.
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» All in favor of accepting these minutes
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indicate by saying I.
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» I.
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» Opposed? Nay.
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» The minutes are adopted. Uh the adoption
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of the agenda. We've all had a chance to
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see the agenda. Does anybody have any
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additions, revisions, or corrections to
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our current agenda?
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If not, I would entertain a motion to
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approve the the agenda as written.
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» Second.
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» Very good. Thank you. I got it. You got
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it. Okay. Thank you very much. All in
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favor of approving the agenda as written
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in campus saying I
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» Opposed. Nay. The agenda is adopted.
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So, uh, do we have any visitors to be
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heard on items not on the agenda?
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Members of the public may speak on any
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topic and remarks are limited to to five
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minutes and no decision will made at
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this time by the city council. Public
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testimony on items on the agenda.
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There'll be an opportunity for those as
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we go through the agenda. Okay. Are
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there any visitors to be heard on any
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items not on the agenda?
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Okay. Very good. We will move on to our
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public hearings.
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There we go. Um, so the first one is the
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resolution authorizing application for
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financial assistance for the Cotton Park
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parking lot. Jim,
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» Good evening members of the council. Uh,
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background here. The Cotton Park parking
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lot was built in around 1980 and was
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held up well over the years um through
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multiple water or flood events. However,
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the flood event in June of 24 caused
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significant damage to both the pavement
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and underlying base, resulting in
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buckling, crumbling, and rapid
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deterioration of the parking lot. At the
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same time, the Cotton Park parking lot
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has been getting heavily used with the
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new addition of the courts down there,
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uh the dis the disc golf course, the uh
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new shelter that we have in there, and
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still stands as kind of the parking lot
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main area for the hike bike path area.
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Um, the item that you have before you
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tonight is a required public hearing
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associated with the USDA rural
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development grant application. This
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hearing gives residents the opportunity
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to learn about the project, ask
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questions, and provide feedback before
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the city submits its application. The
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project was identified in the city's
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2026 CIP with an estimated cost of
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$450,000.
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Based on the discussions with the USDA
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rural development, grant funding could
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possibly cover half the construction
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costs with the city's anticipated share
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coming from the second penny. The
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parking lot details, just a quick
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overview. Um, we're going to keep the
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parking lot within the same size or
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footprint that it is at now. Replace the
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existing asphalt with concrete just for
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longevity and and a better surface um to
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resist flooding or other possible future
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flood events. parking capacity of about
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63 stalls and widening the entrance from
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20 feet to 36 feet. Uh at this time, the
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only cost is associated with this is the
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the uh publication of the required
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public hearing notice. The grant
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application will be submitted this fall
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and if funding is awarded, construction
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would begin in early 2027. Staff is
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recommending approval of the resolution
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so the city can move forward with the
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USDA rule development grant application
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process. Um, tonight I have Clinton
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Christensen who has helped from SECOG
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which has helped or write this grant for
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the city. Um, and we'd be open to
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entertain any questions that council or
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the public may have.
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Thank you very much. Are there any
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members of the public wish to comment on
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this matter?
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How about members of the council? Gary.
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Oh, sorry. Gary was a little Go ahead.
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You go Gary first, then Jay. So Jim,
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when I read this this afternoon, I
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you're you're going to be putting
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concrete down instead of asphalt. I get
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that, but I also know concrete cracks,
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too. Uh is this going to be some kind of
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a special concrete to help withstand the
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the virtues of that river or what's the
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plan there?
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» That's a great question. And to help me
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answer that question, [laughter]
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I have an assistant with me tonight who
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also can kind of give you a little bit
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more details on that.
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So, the plan we're going to be using
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concrete. Uh, the concrete's going to be
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jointed. So, hopefully that's going to
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take care of most of the cracking. Um,
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that you typically might see if it's not
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jointed. Uh, in addition to that, the
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base of it is going to be reinforced.
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We're going to be using uh we're going
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to be using some uh my gosh, it's
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escaping. Um,
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sorry. We're going to be reinforcing the
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base. uh regardless of that. And then
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we're also going to be uh adding some
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fabric to make sure that all the fines
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and all the gravel stays underneath the
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concrete road. So all of these items put
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together will be uh hopefully
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prohibiting the the concrete to fail the
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same way that the asphalt did.
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» Thanks, Jake.
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» Uh maybe you don't know, Jose. You might
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know this as much as anybody, so don't
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go anywhere. Thank you.
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» Uh does the county still plan on like
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wrapping that river down there somewhere
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or are we sure? So, the the county uh we
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did speak with the county um I'm going
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to say about a month month and a half
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ago regarding that. Uh I believe that
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they're still planning on that. Uh they
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haven't uh the project their project
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hasn't gone out to bid at this point. Uh
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they are aware that we have this project
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coming up uh early next year more than
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likely uh and that they're going to be
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working at that point. They're going to
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be working around our schedule. Uh so we
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they have been made aware of it. I think
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right now they're trying to uh maybe uh
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have their uh their site for equipment
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and so forth on the east side of the
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river. So they're outside of the parking
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lot and the closure of the parking lot
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if it's necessary or will be necessary
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hopefully coincides when they're
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working. So then we can uh minimize the
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impact to the public as much as we can.
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» Yeah. just concerned and I'm sure if
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we've got a somebody doing planning this
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whole thing done it but there's a lot of
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river water bottom on that land and is
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are we already doing soil testing to
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make sure we're getting down deep enough
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to stabilize the ground before we start
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putting all the concrete in there.
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» So the it was we did actually did I
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think two borings two soil borings on
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the parking lot itself. Uh the geotech
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already did the design for the for the
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subbase. Uh and we're going to be using
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that as far as
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» So they've given you some statistics
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what what to use on the base then.
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» Yep. Yeah. That was required for the
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grant application as well.
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» Yes.
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» Uh why are we widening the driveway from
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20 to 36 feet?
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» So right now there are some issues. Uh
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if whenever you have two cars there
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where they're and they're turning, uh
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you tend to have a little bit of uh uh
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vehicles uh getting stuck, not stuck,
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but they just take their time. So we
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don't want to we don't want to have cars
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stopping on Dakota Street waiting for
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somebody to turning out of the parking
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lot. 36 ft will allow hopefully for two
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vehicles to to get out whether they're
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going north or south and space for a car
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to come in at the same time.
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Thank you. I go to Cotton Park pretty
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regularly and I was glad to see that
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that you're widening that because it is
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it is an issue. Sometimes you have to
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stop and you're in the way. But may I
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ask how you came up with the number of
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parking spots you want? I rarely see
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more than two or three cars there at one
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time. Why do we need 66 or whatever
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parking spots?
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» Yours.
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» So So the the parking layout, as Jim
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mentioned, we are using the same
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footprint. uh we just went ahead and put
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as many as we could that met our
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standard of 9 by8 and 63 was what we
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came with. Uh there there isn't in this
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instance we didn't actually have a
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formula to go uh to go through. We just
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tried to at least have the the same
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amount that we had prior uh which I
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think was 558.
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Uh and then uh we just put as many as we
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could but we tried to not go below that
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number.
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I I get that that was clear in the memo,
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but uh there's I mean I've I don't think
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I've even for parties I bet I've seen 10
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there maybe somebody had a birthday
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party down there.
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» I can say that when I personally have
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gone pickle to play pickle ball. Uh I
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have probably seen about maybe half to
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3/4 of that parking lot full. And it's
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not with just people that play pickle
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ball. We also have people that go and
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maybe are using the the shelter or
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taking their kids over to the playground
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equipment or playing frisbee golf. So, a
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lot of these things tend to come at the
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same time. But
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» I'm with you. It's probably rare, but we
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want to have the capacity for the
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» Yeah, cuz otherwise they don't have a
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place to park, right? Where are they
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going to park?
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» Don't allow parking on Dakota Street.
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» Very good. And if I may, I think you're
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only going to see Cotton Park being
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expanded down there as as um there's a
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new playground going to go down there
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hopefully within the next couple years.
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Um once the pickle ball courts really
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get used and and found out about, I
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think you're going to see heavier
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heavier traffic down there. So, we want
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to prepare for that as well.
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» Fair enough. Any further questions or qu
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comments from the city?
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» Nope. Uh the staff recommends adoption
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of this uh resolution. There's no
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financial consideration. Do I have a
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motion to adopt this or to approve this
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resolution?
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» Second.
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» All in favor indic.
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» I post nay. Passes. Thank you very much.
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Jim.
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» Don't go. There you go. There you go.
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Don't go too far away. First reading of
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the uh uh blue stem trail edition
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resoning for the co-ousing project. Yep.
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Jose,
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» Thank you. Uh so the city has been
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working with the owner of this property
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since 2024. Uh this property is located
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on the east side of Crawford Road. Um oh
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where is it? Here it is.
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All right. So this property is uh
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located on the east side of North
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Crawford Road and about 400 ft north of
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East Maine. Uh it's about uh 15 acres in
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size. As you can see, some of this
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property is uh within the R2 residential
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district, which is this pink area. Uh
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and then also within the NRC uh natural
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resource conservation district. Uh the
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R3 district does uh touch or is
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adjoining the property in question by
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this little strip right here. Uh this uh
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property was annexed into the city in
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March 2026. Um as such uh the property
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owner uh has a process to follow for uh
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for reszoning. Uh and this process the
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the the fact that some of it was already
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within city limits and another portion
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was actually annexed at a later time
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makes that process a little bit uh
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different than typical uh for anything
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that's already within city limits like
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this R2 area. uh for that to be
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resoneed, the property owner would
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actually be required to acquire
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signatures or petitions from uh property
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owners within 250 ft of that area. But
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then the area that was recently annexed,
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so essentially this uh shaded area or
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the NRC area, well, he's not required to
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do that. Uh so what staff uh did was to
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essentially remove the requirement to uh
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to file an application and to pay the
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reszoning fee but still was required to
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to acquire all the signatures as far as
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the petitions and all the notices and
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all the letters. All of that was still
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sent to the property owners. Uh based on
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that u the owner's plan is to develop
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the area for residential uses. Uh the
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intent is to have uh
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the intent is to actually have Oh, let
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me sorry
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it's on the other side.
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The intent is to actually have uh some
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town homes on the north side and on the
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west side and then this large area here
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would be uh the co-ousing area. uh that
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co-housing area uh looking at it right
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here uh would then be actually composed
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of uh several I think it's 26 units uh
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and then a larger u house I guess if you
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want to call it that where they would be
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able to have more shared meals and a
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space to share maybe have some get
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togethers and so forth along with some
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green spaces. Uh all of these uh shared
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uses would be available to the to the
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residents of this co-housing project uh
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this uh this staff uh after talking to
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the with the owner uh we propose that
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this area should actually be resone to
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the R3 district rather rather than the
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R2 uh choice the the reasons for that is
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that the uh a lot of the the items that
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would actually be considered uh
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essential for the co-ousing uh some of
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the the driveways private roads. Uh the
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lack of frontages for each of these
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individual properties would make it
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difficult to be in the R2. So again, the
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R3. In addition to that, then you also
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had the size of the development. Uh the
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R2 sets a max uh of 16 bedrooms. Uh this
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development would have somewhere between
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52 and 54. Uh so again, that's that's a
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larger number that would have actually
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been allowed in the R2. Uh so all of
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these items put together then uh would
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benefit or would point to this area
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being reszoned to the R3 district if
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possible. Uh this item was considered by
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the planning and zoning commission on
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August 10th. Uh at that meeting uh one
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individual did uh talk in favor of the
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proposed project and and recommended or
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said that the item should be approved by
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the PL by the city council. Uh after a
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brief discussion, the commission
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recommended unanimously A to Z for the
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city council to approve the reszoning uh
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the resone as proposed by staff.
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Administration and the planning
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commission recommend that the city
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council advance the ordinance uh to a
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second reading on September 8th.
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» Thank you very much. Are there any
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members of the public who have a comment
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about this proposed ordinance?
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» No. How about members of the city
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council? Any comments or suggestions?
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Would Lindsay beat you yet? Gary
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Lindsay,
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» Um, can you I'm a little confused by
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some of the roads that are note are
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notated on these maps. Should we take
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that I mean to heart. For example, Clark
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Street. Is that is that going to be
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Clark Street?
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» So Clark Street right now is there's a
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cutout for Clark on this side.
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Right. I don't know if you can see that
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little
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I don't want to say trust me but trust
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me Clark Street is right there right now
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the the remainder of that would be
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platted if Clark Street would be
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continued west of that point it would uh
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connect to the Clark Street at Norbec.
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So the proposal is to extend that uh
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further east and then on this
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development here then that would turn
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north and uh follow the 16th line at
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that point.
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» It's at least close enough to get a
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little angle and connect the other side.
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» No, it's right across it. There's no
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angle. [laughter]
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» Gary, did you have a comment?
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» Yeah. Am I going to assume that uh I
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read this in here, but uh a lot of the
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uh communal housing in there is going to
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be for seniors?
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» My understanding is that all of it is
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going to be for
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» All of it's going to be for
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» And we're talking about this this area
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here, the the area that's the co-housing
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portion of it,
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» But not the town homes.
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» No, the town homes, anybody can move
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there is my understanding. Again,
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» I'm certainly happy to hear that. I
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think one of the things that of course
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we've been discussing is a need for
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senior housing.
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» Anybody have any questions? I I have a
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question that I don't remember the
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parking rules by heart the formulas but
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is how about the R3 off streetet parking
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uh formula. Does this meet that the
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requirements of zoning?
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» So it will
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» There is there is one, right? I'm sorry.
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There is one there is a formula for
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» Yeah, there is uh we we haven't looked
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at that at this point as much uh just
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because we're just talking about
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reszoning. Uh but through conversations
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with the developer and the owner, uh my
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our understanding is that all of these
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units is going to they're going to have
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enough space within the driveway
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» Uh to account for their parking. They're
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they're also going to have a one-stall
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garage. So the ordinance also allows for
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the one stall garage to account for
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that. Uh and then they're also going to
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be having parking spaces in front of the
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the larger house uh as well. So that
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also accounts can be used for that
[17:59]
formula.
[18:00]
» I understand that question might be
[18:01]
premature at this point.
[18:02]
» Yep.
[18:05]
» All right. So any other comments or
[18:08]
questions for Jose?
[18:11]
Well, I would entertain a motion to uh
[18:14]
advance this to a second reading on
[18:16]
September 8th if anybody was so willing
[18:18]
to move that.
[18:20]
Is there a second? Second.
[18:22]
» All in favor of moving this uh planning
[18:25]
zoning commission or advancing ordinance
[18:28]
1573 to a second read September 8th.
[18:30]
Please indicate saying I.
[18:32]
» I oppose. Nay.
[18:35]
Motion passes. Thank you.
[18:41]
One question. No comments yet from our
[18:44]
This is very good.
[18:45]
» Uh okay. Item seven, consent agenda.
[18:49]
Uh any item listed on the consent agenda
[18:51]
may by the request of any single council
[18:53]
member be considered a separate item
[18:55]
under the new business section of the
[18:56]
agenda. If a member of the public would
[18:58]
like to discuss any consent agenda item,
[19:00]
please notify the well me during the
[19:02]
public comment period to have it
[19:03]
considered a separate item. Does anybody
[19:05]
have any questions or comments on or
[19:08]
anything removed from the consent
[19:09]
agenda?
[19:12]
I don't know if you were standing up to
[19:13]
come forward. You're you're good. Okay.
[19:15]
Anybody on the city council have any
[19:17]
items they want remove from the consent
[19:18]
agenda and move to new business?
[19:23]
If not, I would entertain a motion to
[19:24]
approve the consent agenda items.
[19:28]
» Is there a second?
[19:30]
Second.
[19:31]
» All in favor of approving the consent
[19:33]
agenda items indicate by saying I. I.
[19:36]
» Opposed? Nay. Consent agenda passes.
[19:49]
Okay, old business. We have none. No old
[19:51]
business. Moving on to new business.
[19:53]
Mid-American, please come forward.
[19:57]
» This is my first year of meeting you.
[19:59]
So, if you can remind me of your name
[20:00]
and
[20:02]
» Great uh Sam Wagner, business and
[20:04]
community development manager with uh
[20:06]
Mid-American Energy. So, mayor, good to
[20:09]
meet you from the other side of the
[20:11]
room. practically. Um so, hey, uh
[20:15]
members of the council, uh John, it's
[20:17]
good to see you again. Um as part of
[20:20]
our, uh franchise agreement with with
[20:22]
the uh city of Vermillion, um you're
[20:25]
blessed on an annual basis to have me
[20:27]
come and tell you about uh all the great
[20:29]
things Mid-American is doing here, uh in
[20:31]
Vermillion. Um and so uh you know
[20:35]
honestly last year was kind of a light
[20:37]
year in terms of uh uh new projects uh
[20:40]
new services uh within the within the
[20:42]
city. Um it was um sort of I don't have
[20:46]
the exact figures but in terms of like
[20:48]
the number of projects it was down a
[20:50]
little bit this year. Um but we've had
[20:52]
some uh uh some residential services uh
[20:55]
that we've run a couple of new services
[20:58]
over at the ICU everywhere these days.
[21:02]
I don't know if that's a good thing or
[21:03]
not. Um, uh, couple of projects, a
[21:07]
couple of new services at the, uh,
[21:09]
University of South Dakota, uh, that,
[21:11]
uh, that were wrapped up. Um, and then,
[21:15]
uh, in terms of, uh, coverage, um, the,
[21:19]
uh, staff coverage that we have for the
[21:21]
city of Vermillion, uh, to cover these
[21:23]
things. Uh, primarily, um, our
[21:25]
engineering staff is based out of, uh,
[21:27]
Sou Falls. Um, so we have uh our uh our
[21:32]
lead tech uh for Vermillion uh Tim Forch
[21:35]
uh who's actually done this presentation
[21:37]
uh on occasion in the past. Uh Tim
[21:39]
continues to uh chase down projects and
[21:42]
uh uh deliver on those uh designs uh for
[21:46]
uh new services uh commercial and
[21:49]
residential and and industrial when they
[21:51]
come up. So he continues to cover
[21:53]
Vermillion. We have a couple of uh field
[21:55]
guys uh that are based uh here in
[21:58]
Vermillion. Um that has not changed. Um
[22:02]
and all of that is backed up by
[22:04]
operational teams out of Sou Falls and
[22:06]
Sous City. And uh if we need to, we'll
[22:09]
go tap the few guys up in Yankton as
[22:11]
well to come down if there's any kind of
[22:13]
emergency. So Vermillion really does
[22:15]
kind of sit in a in kind of a sweet spot
[22:17]
in terms of uh available resources from
[22:20]
uh the engineering, design, and
[22:21]
operational standpoint.
[22:24]
um uh had them run some uh on that
[22:28]
operational side um leaks uh you know
[22:32]
gas leaks on occasion. So uh we had
[22:35]
within the last 12 months we've had 167
[22:39]
uh reported leaks uh within uh
[22:41]
Vermillion. Usually that's just like you
[22:43]
know you know within homes and
[22:45]
residences and and small businesses. Uh
[22:48]
nothing major, nothing super dangerous,
[22:49]
but it's something that we hop on very
[22:51]
very quickly. So out of that 167 uh
[22:54]
number 165 of those leaks were addressed
[22:57]
and dealt with within 60 minutes. Uh the
[23:00]
remaining two went over that 60-minute
[23:02]
mark primarily because of weather. So,
[23:06]
um,
[23:07]
uh, mainly, uh, oh, and the other thing
[23:10]
I want to point out is, uh, in recent
[23:12]
years, we've gotten on to, uh, kind of
[23:14]
a, uh, annual, uh, rotation, uh, to meet
[23:17]
with, u, uh, John and his staff, uh, to
[23:21]
review upcoming projects. Um, that
[23:23]
meeting is coming up. We need to
[23:24]
schedule that. Um, but, uh, we we do
[23:27]
that at least on a on an annual basis.
[23:29]
Looking forward to doing that again. Um,
[23:32]
next time I think we should have that
[23:33]
meeting before I address your council.
[23:35]
Give me better material.
[23:36]
» Okay.
[23:37]
» So, um, but with that I'll take any
[23:40]
questions you might have.
[23:41]
» Thank you. Thank you very much, Sam.
[23:43]
Does any member of the public have any
[23:44]
questions for a mid- American?
[23:48]
» Okay. Al,
[23:49]
» Well, just when you said 167 leaks, I'm
[23:52]
went that may not be much to you, but to
[23:54]
me it sounds like a lot.
[23:55]
» Sure.
[23:56]
» Would Would the majority of those be
[23:57]
things like pilot light went out, they
[23:59]
just had to relight it? I mean, or gas
[24:02]
leak going into the house. And what
[24:03]
would you how would you paraphrase?
[24:04]
» Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's it's a lot of pilot
[24:07]
light stuff. Yeah, it's a lot of pilot
[24:09]
light. Um, there uh we've had no major
[24:13]
leaks uh in Vermillion during that time.
[24:15]
So, yeah, that number I think can be a
[24:17]
little uh a little alarming when you see
[24:19]
it. Um but uh you know that's part of
[24:23]
what we do when managing our system is
[24:24]
if if we have a molecule of gas that's
[24:27]
leaking out that we're that we're made
[24:28]
aware of, we jump on it. And um you know
[24:31]
each one of these systems and homes of
[24:33]
varying varying ages and and um uh
[24:37]
conditions and so on does present a lot
[24:39]
of opportunities for that and so we
[24:41]
chase those down as quickly as we can.
[24:43]
So yeah, nothing major.
[24:47]
» I think Jay was first. I can help you a
[24:49]
little bit with that, Al. Um, I did have
[24:51]
to call you guys this last year.
[24:52]
Something simple as I got a new gas
[24:53]
range and the coupler that came with it
[24:55]
to catch the old gas pipe, there was
[24:58]
like a a coupler head versus a flathead
[25:00]
or something, whatever it was. I had the
[25:02]
wrong one and it was just slightly
[25:03]
leaking,
[25:04]
» But the guy who came was very very
[25:05]
helpful and very friendly and he he
[25:07]
pulled out his little scanner deal and
[25:09]
say, "Yeah, there's a slight leak back
[25:10]
there and told me exactly the one to get
[25:12]
and got it and fixed it up."
[25:14]
» Yeah.
[25:14]
» So, it's just simple stuff like that was
[25:16]
like 10 15 minute fix.
[25:19]
Lindsay, would you Oh, no, sorry, Julia.
[25:22]
» Well, I guess it's a little unfair if
[25:23]
you haven't met with John yet, but I
[25:25]
just want to see with our new expansions
[25:27]
and developments, you know, especially
[25:29]
as we are not just building new homes or
[25:32]
apartments, but sort of expanding
[25:33]
outside of uh previous limits, do you
[25:35]
all feel properly informed and prepared
[25:38]
for such expansions?
[25:39]
» Yeah. Yeah, we do. And um uh yeah, we're
[25:42]
well familiar with the uh with the
[25:44]
growth patterns um and some of the
[25:46]
annexation plans that the city of
[25:48]
Vermillion has. And so part of that
[25:50]
coordination is just um allowing us to
[25:53]
kind of see what's coming so that we can
[25:55]
half the half the phone is keeping up
[25:57]
with you guys. Um so yeah, I think we're
[26:00]
in a pretty good spot there. Um there's
[26:02]
nothing even, you know, even the uh uh
[26:04]
proposed development that was described
[26:06]
earlier, that's not a particular concern
[26:08]
of ours. And we've also had a number
[26:10]
over the last couple of years um uh
[26:14]
several uh like infill uh infill
[26:17]
projects um that has kind of allowed us
[26:20]
to kind of reconfigure our system and
[26:22]
take advantage of those infill projects
[26:24]
to uh prepare for future growth and
[26:28]
understanding where the annexation
[26:29]
patterns are are are headed are
[26:31]
incredibly important to us. And so
[26:33]
coordinating with John and his team has
[26:35]
been very helpful.
[26:38]
Any other questions for Sam? I have a
[26:41]
question. A couple of weeks ago, we lost
[26:43]
we had a burst water pipe. You know, I
[26:46]
mean, these things happen. How are your
[26:48]
pipes? Are they maintained? You have a
[26:50]
replacement schedule. What kind of shape
[26:51]
are they in? Are they 20 years more life
[26:53]
or how do you manage your pipes?
[26:54]
» Yeah. So, we go through we go through,
[26:56]
in fact, we just wrapped one up, I
[26:58]
think, a couple of years ago. We we'll
[27:00]
we'll focus on the town and do a full uh
[27:03]
full review of the pipes underground.
[27:05]
And I want to say I'm kind of going off
[27:07]
of memory here, but I want to say we did
[27:09]
something uh for Vermillion a couple of
[27:12]
years ago. Um so um that sort of
[27:15]
proactive maintenance, if you will, um
[27:17]
is part of our overall maintenance plan
[27:20]
uh for our, you know, for our system. We
[27:22]
can't do everything all at one time.
[27:23]
That's an awful lot of pipes. So we do
[27:25]
concentrate on certain areas um and then
[27:28]
come back to them um in a in a rotation
[27:31]
and then as problems come up um as they
[27:34]
like your burst water pipe for example
[27:36]
sometimes you know nature has other
[27:38]
plans for us uh we'll respond
[27:40]
accordingly but we do have a proactive
[27:42]
maintenance plan all across our entire
[27:44]
system.
[27:44]
» Thank you. That's comforting and we
[27:46]
appreciate that.
[27:47]
» Y
[27:49]
» Are there any other questions for Sam?
[27:51]
In that case, thank you very much and
[27:53]
we'll see you next year after you meet
[27:54]
with John.
[27:55]
» Yep, that's true. Oh, and uh we have a
[27:58]
franchise coming up. So, uh the
[28:01]
franchise agreement for uh the city of
[28:03]
Vermillion comes up in I believe the end
[28:05]
of February uh I want to say. So, um yet
[28:08]
more opportunities to uh to work with
[28:11]
the city of Vermillion and put that
[28:12]
agreement in place for the future.
[28:14]
» Okay.
[28:14]
» Okay.
[28:15]
» Thank you very much.
[28:16]
» Thank you.
[28:19]
» Uh where are we at? So item B, request
[28:22]
to close down uh the road for a
[28:24]
fraternity sorority party. Is that you,
[28:26]
Alex?
[28:27]
» Thank you. So we have a request from the
[28:30]
USD sorority and fraternity life. Uh we
[28:32]
have some representatives here from them
[28:33]
as well. Uh they would like to close
[28:35]
East Cedar Street from North Pine Street
[28:37]
to North Plum Street on September 17th,
[28:39]
2026 from 5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. for a
[28:42]
block party. Um the actual event itself
[28:44]
will be from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. That
[28:46]
additional time from 5:00 to 6:00 and
[28:48]
from 7:00 to 8 or 8:00 to 9:00 will be
[28:51]
for setup and takeown of the event. Um
[28:53]
for the event itself, there will be
[28:55]
three food trucks there. Um and it as
[28:58]
the applicants have told me, it will be
[29:00]
a dry event. Um additionally, they will
[29:02]
have a team of five individuals who will
[29:04]
clean up the streets after the event and
[29:06]
in in front of the respective houses if
[29:08]
those were to get dirty. Um everything
[29:12]
is included in the packet. Our street
[29:13]
police fires departments did not have
[29:15]
any issues with this closure. Um
[29:17]
administration recommends that the city
[29:18]
council approved their request to close
[29:20]
East Cedar Street from North Pine Street
[29:22]
to North Plum Street on Thursday,
[29:23]
September 17th, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. to
[29:26]
9:00 p.m. for the USD sority and
[29:27]
fraternity life block party.
[29:30]
» Thank you. Are there any members of the
[29:32]
public who'd like to talk about this
[29:33]
subject?
[29:36]
Come on.
[29:39]
No. Okay. So, uh I'm glad you told me it
[29:43]
was a dry event because we don't start
[29:44]
driving the bus until 10 o'clock on. All
[29:46]
right. So, I'm not said about that. Yes,
[29:50]
Julia.
[29:52]
» Well, first of all, I'm super excited
[29:53]
that you all are celebrating
[29:54]
Constitution Day. So, well, um
[29:57]
[laughter] but then I'm just wondering
[29:59]
if there will be an associated um you
[30:02]
call that um noise um exemption planned
[30:06]
for this as well or if you're not um
[30:10]
anticipating exceeding noise levels.
[30:13]
» I can also assist with that question as
[30:15]
well. With the new noise ordinance that
[30:17]
we passed um with September, it would
[30:19]
need to start at 8, but since they're
[30:21]
cleaning up from 8 to 9, we didn't
[30:22]
believe that they needed a noise permit
[30:24]
for it. Okay.
[30:25]
» We also don't plan on using anything.
[30:29]
» Hi, I'm Emma. I'm one of the
[30:31]
representatives from student sorority
[30:32]
and fraternity life. Um, we don't plan
[30:34]
on using anything bigger than like a
[30:36]
normal standard size speaker. Um, so we
[30:38]
don't anticipate it getting super loud
[30:39]
and will be cleaned up hopefully by 8:30
[30:42]
at the latest.
[30:44]
» Thank you. Why don't you hang out for a
[30:46]
minute, Emma, in case people have
[30:47]
further questions. Okay. Anybody have
[30:50]
any questions for Emma?
[30:55]
Okay. Uh so I would entertain a motion
[30:58]
to approve this uh request to close East
[31:01]
Cedar Street from Alpha FE to PYI
[31:04]
uh on September 17th.
[31:09]
» It has been moved. Do I have a second?
[31:12]
» All in favor of allowing the street
[31:14]
closure indicate by saying I
[31:16]
» Oppose? Nay.
[31:18]
Motion passes. We'll see you at 10:00.
[31:22]
Thank you.
[31:27]
» All right. So, the first reading of
[31:29]
ordinance 1564 about a our cable
[31:31]
franchise agreement with Midco. Uh John.
[31:34]
» Sure. Thank you, mayor. Uh in 2016, the
[31:36]
city council entered into a 10-year
[31:38]
franchise agreement with Midco or
[31:40]
Mid-Continent Communications. Uh as you
[31:42]
might do the math, that is coming to an
[31:44]
expir here um in the coming month.
[31:46]
Actually, it expires in October. We did
[31:48]
receive a proposal from Midco to extend
[31:50]
the existing terms and conditions for an
[31:52]
additional 10 years. Uh the only two
[31:54]
changes that they are noting is instead
[31:57]
of having a rate card that they would
[31:58]
provide to the city to have on file each
[32:01]
time a rate changes, they would uh
[32:03]
maintain a website that continually has
[32:05]
the rates available. The second one
[32:07]
really has to do with um FCC order 621.
[32:11]
It really has changed how quote free
[32:13]
cable has worked. Um when this ordinance
[32:17]
uh was the last ordinance 1345 was
[32:19]
adopted in 2016, there were a list of
[32:21]
buildings that would receive uh free
[32:23]
cable service as part of the franchise
[32:24]
agreement. This FCC order basically
[32:27]
eliminated um the requirement for cable
[32:30]
companies to do that and instead um what
[32:33]
free cable means is that they don't bill
[32:36]
us for the cable, they take it out of
[32:38]
the franchise fee payments that we would
[32:40]
receive. So, um, Midco and I had a
[32:44]
little discussion as to what really free
[32:45]
cable was if you're charging us for it.
[32:48]
Um, but so that is what free cable means
[32:51]
now. Instead of, um, literally being
[32:53]
free, it it comes out of our franchise
[32:55]
uh, fees they would otherwise receive.
[32:58]
Um, and there are three buildings that
[32:59]
we have that receive um, this anymore.
[33:01]
When we this order went into effect
[33:03]
about two years ago, there was a lot of
[33:05]
different buildings in the community. um
[33:08]
uh our schools, uh senior center, um a
[33:11]
lot of different places that did receive
[33:13]
it and those um pretty much all uh were
[33:15]
eliminated from being eligible for free
[33:18]
cable. And now we have three city
[33:20]
buildings that continue to receive um
[33:22]
this city hall here uh building, our
[33:25]
service center, and the fire EMS. Um the
[33:28]
rest of the golf course is handled
[33:30]
separately because that has more of a
[33:31]
public viewing than what those other
[33:33]
buildings do. So they literally receive
[33:35]
the same bill as somebody would at home.
[33:37]
Um I would note that the 5% franchise
[33:40]
fee that's paid on eligible services uh
[33:43]
last year in 2025 that amounted to
[33:45]
$56,112.
[33:47]
So that is revenue that comes uh to the
[33:49]
city from that. Um administration would
[33:51]
recommend that ordinance 1564 to extend
[33:54]
the cable franchise agreement with Midco
[33:56]
uh for an additional 10 years be
[33:58]
advanced to a second reading on
[34:00]
September 8th.
[34:02]
» Thank you. Are there any visitors we
[34:03]
heard on this subject?
[34:06]
Members of the coun members of the
[34:08]
council.
[34:13]
Well, I have a few questions. Is this 5%
[34:15]
normal uh among cities? This is a normal
[34:18]
rate that uh people pay.
[34:20]
» Yes, the 5% is the highest that is
[34:23]
allowed um by the [clears throat] FCC
[34:25]
and it's pretty typical with most
[34:26]
cities.
[34:27]
» Very good. And my other question was
[34:29]
that of the
[34:31]
establishments that used to get free
[34:32]
cable that ended two years ago.
[34:35]
» I believe it was 2 years ago that there
[34:40]
um yes it seemed like not the intern
[34:42]
last summer, the intern year before put
[34:44]
all those letters together and we
[34:46]
notified those entities and I think um
[34:48]
it probably ended around September or so
[34:51]
um when it actually took effect. Well,
[34:54]
well, my question is, should those
[34:56]
continue to have free cable? I mean,
[34:58]
they're charging. It's not free anymore,
[35:00]
right? They're they're they're charging
[35:01]
us, so you're subtracting it. Are there
[35:02]
should we, the city, be subsidizing some
[35:04]
of these places for their quote unquote
[35:07]
free cable, or did we have that
[35:09]
conversation two years ago?
[35:11]
» I don't know. I don't know that it came
[35:13]
before the council. Um I think we viewed
[35:15]
it as um is it city's cost to provide
[35:19]
those? And so that's why we we pulled
[35:21]
that back and eliminated we eliminated
[35:23]
several city buildings that had there
[35:24]
was um I know it was in 2024 because
[35:27]
they had sites listed that were no
[35:29]
longer active such as Jolly School um
[35:32]
Austin school were listed on there. So I
[35:34]
know it was in 2024. So part of us
[35:35]
cleaning up their list um but we yeah I
[35:40]
there were some that we approached that
[35:41]
were on the list that said we didn't
[35:43]
even know we had it and they were never
[35:45]
hooked up to it or they were using it
[35:47]
for the internet piece.
[35:49]
piece with the school and the main
[35:50]
street center and some of those that are
[35:53]
public good. I mean they're paying now
[35:55]
out of their own pocket for cable. I
[35:57]
assume they all have cable obviously.
[35:59]
» Yeah, that I don't know. We haven't
[36:00]
followed up to see if they still have
[36:01]
cable or not. Um I know Damon Albby and
[36:04]
I had a conversation about it because I
[36:06]
think some of our school buildings had
[36:07]
more interest in it than others.
[36:10]
» Okay.
[36:13]
» Any questions for John about Yes. Go
[36:15]
ahead, please, Jeff. John, there's no
[36:16]
other companies that want this business
[36:20]
other than Midco.
[36:22]
» Good question. It is not exclusive. So,
[36:25]
um, Blue Peak, uh, their their
[36:27]
predecessor, but now Blue Peak, you can
[36:29]
receive television, um, services through
[36:32]
Blue Peak that qualify as cable. So, if
[36:35]
another cable company comes along and
[36:37]
wants to provide, uh, television
[36:38]
services, it's a non-exclusive
[36:40]
franchise. And so, that's why we're one
[36:42]
of the few that has two of these. in uh
[36:44]
Blue Peak. We've scheduled them for
[36:46]
their annual report just like Sam just
[36:48]
did with Mid American. I think that's in
[36:50]
October they're coming, but they'll come
[36:53]
before the city council do their update.
[36:55]
» And I should say MidCo's I believe Midco
[36:58]
will be here at our next meeting uh to
[36:59]
present their annual report.
[37:03]
» Thank you. Thank you for clarifying
[37:04]
that. Any other questions for John about
[37:06]
this uh franchise?
[37:10]
I would entertain a motion to advance
[37:12]
ordinance 1564 to a second reading on
[37:14]
September 8th.
[37:16]
» Moved seconded. All in favor of
[37:18]
advancing the second reading indicate by
[37:20]
saying I.
[37:21]
» I oppose. Nay. Motion passes.
[37:27]
» Uh historical presto historic is it
[37:29]
historic or historical? Historic
[37:31]
preservation commission appointments. We
[37:33]
have two reappointments. uh when we had
[37:36]
no further no additional applications.
[37:38]
So I would re I recommend with your
[37:41]
consent that we approve Susan Keith Gray
[37:43]
reappoint Susan Keith Gray and Carson
[37:45]
Murwan to their posts on the historic
[37:47]
preservation commission.
[37:52]
Oh, sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Any
[37:54]
members of the public have a comment on
[37:56]
this these reappointments?
[37:59]
Thank Thank you very much. I'll get it.
[38:01]
I'll get it. Five members of the council
[38:03]
have comments.
[38:07]
» Second.
[38:07]
» All in favor of reappointing Susan Keith
[38:09]
Gray and Carson Murkw historic
[38:11]
preservation commission appointment,
[38:12]
please indicate by saying I. I
[38:14]
» Oppose. Nay. Appointments are are done.
[38:17]
Very good.
[38:19]
Um
[38:21]
what about this? Do we discuss this?
[38:24]
» You certainly can. So if you want me to
[38:26]
start off.
[38:27]
» Yeah, please go ahead. So, at the last
[38:28]
city council meeting, uh there's a
[38:30]
question about uh broadcaster press and
[38:33]
how best to handle that. And what we had
[38:35]
suggested um at that point in time is
[38:37]
that we would listed as an open account
[38:38]
claim. So, the next agenda item says
[38:40]
open account claim uh broadcaster press
[38:42]
for $2,323.34.
[38:45]
Periodically, once to maybe both
[38:48]
meetings each month due to legal notices
[38:50]
we place um other ads and those
[38:52]
respective publications, the broadcast
[38:54]
or plane talk, we receive a a bill at
[38:56]
least once a month. And so, um, there's
[38:58]
a question with Mr. Lias, um, had, uh,
[39:01]
worked full-time for broadcaster press
[39:03]
organization, um, whether or not that
[39:06]
was a conflict. And so, the proposal was
[39:08]
that we would just list as an open
[39:10]
account claim rather than under invoices
[39:12]
payable. So, it'd be easier, uh, for Mr.
[39:14]
Lias to abstain um, uh, from voting on
[39:17]
that versus not being able to vote on
[39:20]
all of the other um, uh, other bills and
[39:22]
invoices payable. So we list it under
[39:25]
invoices payable and it's noted that
[39:27]
it's under new business and then we list
[39:29]
the respective account claim here and I
[39:32]
would suggest that if we have and we do
[39:34]
from time to time a city council member
[39:35]
travels on behalf of the city there's
[39:37]
reimbursement um for those items that
[39:40]
those would be listed in a similar
[39:42]
manner. Um uh the city attorney did
[39:45]
provide guidance after we kind of set up
[39:47]
the system um and I'll let Mr. Hinds if
[39:50]
you wanted to uh explain it from a more
[39:52]
legal manner that um as I understand it
[39:55]
that it wouldn't necessarily need to be
[39:57]
handled this way. It may be a matter of
[39:59]
um the message that the city council
[40:01]
wants to communicate or the transparency
[40:02]
that you want to communicate with how
[40:04]
you handle this. Right? So generally
[40:06]
speaking a direct financial interest
[40:08]
would be someone who is an owner uh of a
[40:11]
specific entity. If someone were merely
[40:13]
an employee of that entity we wouldn't
[40:16]
consider that necessarily a direct
[40:17]
interest. Um that being said, it is a
[40:20]
responsibility of every individual
[40:22]
member to determine if they have a
[40:24]
conflict where they would want to
[40:26]
abstain from voting. Um this in this
[40:29]
particular instance, I don't think it's
[40:31]
critical. Uh but the member could always
[40:34]
decide to abstain from the appearance of
[40:36]
having any sort of direct or indirect
[40:39]
interest.
[40:42]
» Thank you.
[40:43]
» Um Council Member Elias did abstain from
[40:45]
voting on this item.
[40:48]
Very good. So, uh, we discussed this at
[40:52]
our noon meeting. I don't have any
[40:54]
further questions. Anybody else have any
[40:55]
further questions regarding this issue?
[40:58]
Well, I would entertain a motion to pay
[40:59]
the broadcaster 23234.
[41:03]
So, move
[41:04]
» Second.
[41:05]
» All in favor of paying them paying our
[41:06]
bill say I.
[41:09]
» Oppos? Nay.
[41:11]
Thank you very much and thank you,
[41:12]
David, for being uh so considerate. Uh
[41:16]
the last the next item rather is uh the
[41:20]
bid opening for our electrical
[41:21]
transformers.
[41:22]
» Thank you. Um so light and power
[41:24]
department requested bids on electric
[41:26]
transformers uh to both replenish our
[41:28]
inventory and to stock up and get ready
[41:30]
for specific projects in the future. Uh
[41:32]
this year we requested bids on a total
[41:34]
of 16 transformers varying at seven
[41:36]
different sizes. Um bid documents were
[41:38]
sent out to 17 potential um biders. Uh,
[41:42]
out of those 17 suppliers that we sent
[41:44]
those out to, we received six bids. Um,
[41:46]
however, only five of those bids
[41:47]
included proper bid security. Um, and
[41:51]
then two of those five actually included
[41:53]
bids on transformers that were on the
[41:55]
the acceptable uh manufacturers list.
[41:58]
So, those two were the only two that we
[42:00]
evaluated. Um, for the transformers, the
[42:03]
evaluation process that we look at is is
[42:05]
we look at the operating losses over the
[42:07]
life cycle of the transformer. Um so on
[42:10]
the bid tab you'll see the total base
[42:12]
price which is the initial cost of the
[42:14]
transformers up front and then you'll
[42:16]
see the total evaluated cost which is
[42:18]
the cost of the transformers through
[42:20]
their entire life cycle. Um using this
[42:22]
process we resco out of Morhead
[42:25]
Minnesota uh was the lowest bid with a
[42:28]
base price of $146,959
[42:31]
and the evaluated price of $210,4520.
[42:36]
Uh these transformers have an estimated
[42:38]
delivery of 12 to 13 weeks which would
[42:40]
put the delivery here in 2026, excuse
[42:43]
[clears throat] me. Um this purchase was
[42:45]
not fully budgeted for so a revision
[42:47]
will be necessary to cover the cost of
[42:48]
these. Um however we do have sufficient
[42:50]
funds in the reserve account for the
[42:52]
light and power department. Uh with that
[42:54]
administration recommends awarding the
[42:55]
bid to resco with an initial purchase
[42:57]
price of $146,959
[43:00]
and a total evaluated price of
[43:02]
$210,4520.
[43:06]
Thank you, Shane. Do any members of the
[43:08]
public have any comments about this bid?
[43:11]
» Just like explaining what's the the
[43:13]
evaluated price. What's what's that
[43:15]
mean?
[43:15]
» So, so when a transformer is operating
[43:18]
and the electricity is it's doing its
[43:20]
job, there's going to be some losses,
[43:21]
right? It's not 100% efficient. So when
[43:23]
they supply their their their bids to
[43:25]
us, they give us a couple numbers that
[43:27]
we plug into an an equation that tells
[43:30]
us this is how much electricity is going
[43:31]
to be lost through this thing's lifetime
[43:33]
while it's operating out in the system.
[43:35]
And so the more efficient, the cheaper
[43:37]
it is over the next 30 years, right? And
[43:39]
so we evaluate that when we're looking
[43:41]
at these. And so we don't look at just
[43:42]
what does it cost us up front. We look
[43:44]
at what is this really going to cost us
[43:45]
once it's out in the system for for 30
[43:47]
years.
[43:48]
» So you want to so we want to lower
[43:50]
» Exactly
[43:50]
» Outside revenue. Okay.
[43:52]
» Yep. Thank you.
[43:53]
» Yes, Jay.
[43:55]
» So, this looks like about 25% different
[43:57]
from the total base to that um evaluated
[43:59]
cost. We don't have a 25% loss in energy
[44:03]
at that point, do we?
[44:05]
» No.
[44:06]
You're getting pretty deep into the
[44:07]
weeds when you start getting into that
[44:09]
that that equation. Um and so, um I
[44:12]
can't speak to the guts of it. I can
[44:13]
just kind of tell you where I take the
[44:15]
numbers. You know, that's electrical
[44:16]
engineers kind of give us those numbers
[44:18]
and we we we go with them. Um, but no,
[44:20]
we do not get a 25% loss on our
[44:22]
transformers.
[44:23]
» As I understand it, what that means is
[44:25]
they expect say $65,000 worth of
[44:27]
electricity is going to get lost in form
[44:30]
of heat
[44:31]
» Over the lifetime of these transformers.
[44:33]
» Yeah, 30 plus years.
[44:34]
» And uh what is the life of these
[44:35]
transformers here?
[44:36]
» Uh so most of them I think are around
[44:37]
that 30-year mark. Kind of averaging
[44:39]
right in there.
[44:40]
» How many do we have? We're replacing
[44:41]
» The system.
[44:42]
» Yeah. I mean
[44:43]
» Uh so Oh, you got to put me on the spot.
[44:45]
I want to say that we have like 800
[44:46]
transformers out in the system. Don't
[44:49]
quote me on that. I will get that number
[44:50]
» First year, but is this a normal thing?
[44:52]
150 grand a year for transform places
[44:54]
every year.
[44:55]
» Say that one more time.
[44:56]
» Is this a normal thing then replacing?
[44:58]
» Absolutely. Yep. Yep. So that's it's
[44:59]
been a year or two since we've got this
[45:00]
is a little bit larger larger bid
[45:02]
package, but yeah, every year we usually
[45:04]
buy some.
[45:04]
» How do you know which ones need to be
[45:06]
replaced, Shane?
[45:07]
» Uh so we have the our AMI system and our
[45:10]
smart health map. um it actually can
[45:12]
tell us loads and stuff. And so now
[45:13]
everything's so smart, we can really
[45:15]
kind of pull up a map and it can show us
[45:17]
which transformers are overloaded, which
[45:19]
ones are underloaded. Um if we have, you
[45:21]
know, they're running all kinds of tests
[45:22]
all the time to just look for
[45:24]
efficiency. If there's anything that's
[45:25]
out of whack, we can go in and look at
[45:27]
it. And so over the last couple years
[45:28]
since we got our AMI [clears throat]
[45:29]
system up and going, um I think that's
[45:31]
made life a lot easier on our electric
[45:33]
department on really pinpointing those
[45:34]
issues before they become a big issue to
[45:36]
where we got outages and things like
[45:38]
that. So older transformers have lower
[45:40]
efficiency, we'll lose more electricity
[45:41]
and maybe overheat,
[45:43]
» Right?
[45:44]
» Okay. Y
[45:46]
» John, and I just add, correct me if I'm
[45:48]
wrong, Shane, this is also for growth,
[45:50]
too.
[45:51]
» Yeah, this is for potential growth. So
[45:52]
like that blue stem is out there. This
[45:54]
is transformers to build that. This is
[45:55]
looking at different things like the the
[45:57]
Munger property out there is getting
[45:59]
that out there developed and having
[46:00]
transformers out there. And then also
[46:02]
just kind of restocking some of our
[46:04]
supplies in case things do go bad. Some
[46:05]
of these larger ones can have larger
[46:07]
lead times sometimes like this one's 12
[46:09]
to 13 weeks. We've seen lead times in
[46:11]
the past that were years and so having
[46:14]
them on stock is is important in case
[46:16]
something goes down we can get it fixed
[46:17]
right now instead of having to wait.
[46:20]
» Very good. Yes. Gary
[46:22]
» Shane, how many are we getting?
[46:24]
» There's 16 of them.
[46:30]
» Any other electricity guys here? Did you
[46:32]
have a question? Mike,
[46:34]
» I was glad to see the 12 to 13 weeks cuz
[46:36]
since I was on been on the council
[46:38]
starting in 2022,
[46:40]
» It it's gone down from 2 years or more.
[46:43]
» Oh, yeah. I think I think the last time
[46:44]
I was in front of you, we were at like
[46:45]
84 weeks was the delivery day. So, it
[46:48]
has gotten supplies have uh come back
[46:50]
around, but
[46:50]
» Yes, that's I'm very glad to see that.
[46:55]
» Any other questions for Shane regarding
[46:57]
these transformers?
[47:00]
I would entertain a motion to award the
[47:02]
bid to Resco for $146,959.
[47:06]
So move.
[47:07]
» Is there a second?
[47:09]
» Second.
[47:09]
» All in favor of awarding this bid
[47:11]
indicate by saying I.
[47:13]
» Oppos? Nay.
[47:14]
Bid is approved.
[47:17]
» Thank you. Shane,
[47:20]
you're leaving before the city manager's
[47:22]
report. [laughter]
[47:23]
» Okay. Very good. Over to you.
[47:28]
I
[47:30]
Thanks Shane for your support. Um just a
[47:34]
couple of different items uh for mayor
[47:35]
and council here. Uh couple the next
[47:37]
meeting is on Tuesday September 8th. Uh
[47:40]
with the way that August is structured
[47:41]
in the Labor Day holiday on Monday,
[47:43]
September 7th. Uh city office is closed
[47:46]
in Labor Day. Uh the next meeting is on
[47:48]
Tuesday, September 8th. Before that
[47:50]
meeting, our planning and zoning
[47:51]
commission meets on Monday, August 31st
[47:53]
at 5:30 5:30 p.m. They have um two basic
[47:57]
items on their agenda. One is a
[47:59]
conditional use permit for 426 East
[48:01]
Cherry Street. Uh that's the former
[48:03]
Steuart Oil property uh over there in
[48:05]
East Cherry. And then they will be
[48:07]
continuing uh their discussion on the
[48:08]
ordinances related to data center. So
[48:10]
those are the items uh that we know of
[48:12]
right now for the planning zoning
[48:13]
commission on Monday, August 31st. And
[48:16]
then our human relations commission is
[48:17]
set to meet at 5:15 p.m. on Thursday,
[48:20]
September 3rd. That's in the Paul
[48:22]
conference room here at city hall.
[48:25]
A couple reminders on street closures.
[48:27]
Uh this coming Friday is USD's movein
[48:29]
day. So Rose Street from Coyote Village
[48:31]
north to Dakota Dome. Uh that one closes
[48:34]
at 5:00 a.m. and that lasts until 4 p.m.
[48:37]
on Friday, August 21st. And then uh
[48:39]
North Plum Street from East Cherry
[48:41]
Street to Highway 50. that closure is
[48:43]
from 6:00 am to 4 pm uh to help
[48:46]
facilitate the traffic related to move
[48:47]
into the north complex. So uh watch for
[48:50]
some additional traffic in the community
[48:51]
this coming Friday the 21st. Uh just a
[48:54]
reminder the last two Thursdays on the
[48:56]
plats are coming up. We didn't have it
[48:57]
last week with the fair. Uh so August
[48:59]
20th and 27th. Um the street closure is
[49:02]
from 400 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. to allow for
[49:04]
the setup and the tear down. And it is
[49:06]
Main Street as it ab butts the plats
[49:08]
east through the Prospect Street
[49:10]
intersection. uh Prospect Street south,
[49:12]
excuse me, Prospect Street for one half
[49:15]
block north of West Main and then Market
[49:16]
Street as it abuts the plat. So those
[49:18]
two uh events for the balance of this
[49:21]
year coming up, we do have several open
[49:23]
border commission seats. Um one I'll go
[49:26]
through the list here, human relations
[49:27]
commission. Uh that is a one-year term
[49:30]
for our postsecondary uh student. Uh so
[49:33]
that term uh began in May and would go
[49:36]
until next May. We have not had any
[49:38]
applicants for that. Uh but you do need
[49:40]
to be a post-secary student um to fill
[49:42]
that slot. Uh business improvement
[49:45]
district number one um that is the
[49:47]
business the board that works with the
[49:49]
$2 per night preoccupied hotel fee. We
[49:51]
do have a three-year term available in
[49:53]
that board. That seat is for either an
[49:55]
owner or manager of a lodging property
[49:57]
in within the uh district here in the
[49:59]
community. Uh that one's a little been a
[50:01]
little bit tougher to fill. And then the
[50:02]
Vermillion Housing Authority, they do
[50:04]
have one uh 5-year term that remains
[50:06]
available. Uh there are no requirements
[50:08]
on that other than you do need to um
[50:10]
live I believe just within Klay County.
[50:12]
I think you can uh definitely within uh
[50:14]
you know what I you have to live within
[50:16]
the city to serve in that role. Um so we
[50:18]
do have one 5-year term on the
[50:20]
Vermillion Housing Authority available
[50:21]
for any board or commission openings. Uh
[50:23]
there's an expression of interest form
[50:24]
that we ask applicants to fill out that
[50:26]
goes to city council to help make that
[50:28]
appointment. Um so those are available
[50:30]
on the city's website. You get them here
[50:31]
at city hall and dismit those to city
[50:33]
hall for the city council to consider.
[50:35]
Then coming up in uh September and
[50:37]
October, we were going to have regular
[50:39]
seats on bid number one, the hotel one,
[50:41]
bid number two, which is our downtown uh
[50:43]
district, and then also the tree board.
[50:45]
So, there'll be more opportunities to
[50:47]
serve. And uh just a reminder, the
[50:49]
mausoleiums at the Bluff Cemetery,
[50:51]
they've been nominated for inclusion on
[50:52]
the National Register of Historic
[50:54]
Places. The State Historical Society
[50:56]
Board of Trustees will be considering
[50:58]
this nomination on Friday, September
[51:00]
11th at their meeting in Sou Falls. If
[51:02]
anybody has any comments, please submit
[51:04]
those to the city through this Friday
[51:05]
the 21st, so we can forward those on to
[51:07]
the state. Uh the nomination is
[51:09]
available through the city's website.
[51:11]
And then finally, included in the city
[51:12]
council packet was one raffle
[51:14]
notification. Uh the Vermillion Rotary
[51:16]
Club is selling their Monday Night
[51:18]
Football uh books. Uh basically the
[51:20]
final digits in the score of each team.
[51:23]
I won't say anything about Vikings,
[51:24]
Packers playing and what that might that
[51:26]
score might be, but hypothetically. Um,
[51:28]
whatever the last digit in the score of
[51:30]
that uh that any game on a Monday night,
[51:32]
that's used to determine the winning
[51:34]
book number for that week. The cost of
[51:36]
the book is $25 for the season. The
[51:38]
winner each week receives $50. Um, the
[51:42]
money which doesn't go to the winners
[51:43]
goes to Rotary to help with their
[51:45]
charitable work in the community. That's
[51:47]
all I have. Mayor,
[51:48]
» Thank you. Any questions on any of those
[51:50]
items for John?
[51:52]
I did have one question. So, how do we
[51:54]
find the uh grad student to be on the
[51:56]
human relations commission? How do we
[51:58]
find them?
[52:00]
» Um those are posted or do we reach out
[52:03]
to the grad school office or
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it's worked different ways um over the
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years. The commission was created in
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2018. Sometimes it has been maybe the
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student who's going off suggested to
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some friends of theirs to apply. Um, we
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can certainly reach out maybe to the
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student government association and see
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if they might be able to help get the
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word out. Um, it's
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» I got the grad students come in and they
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don't they're not necessarily plugged
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in. Oh, sorry, Gary.
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» Uh, one of I have a suggestion. Uh, they
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teach human relations courses in the
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school of education. We could contact
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school of education, have them make a
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recommendation through their professors.
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» Thank you.
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» Yeah, that that makes sense.
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[clears throat] Thank you. Just want to
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help out. All right. Any other items for
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the good of the order? If not, I would
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entertain a motion to adjurnn.
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» Second.
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» All in favor of adjourning indicate. All
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oppose. Nay. Sorry about that.
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Although we just found out we don't need
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a