[0:00] 26. Madam Clerk, can you please call the roll?

[0:03] Yes. Tom Brunning.

[0:05] President Justin Fowse.

[0:06] Michael Galba.

[0:08] Brian Golds.

[0:09] Bart Haberstrow.

[0:10] Here.

[0:11] Mark Hollander.

[0:12] Here.

[0:13] Steve Hollander.

[0:13] Here.

[0:14] Chris Kyle.

[0:15] Denise Mitchell.

[0:16] Here. And Vince Ratchford.

[0:18] There is a quorum.

[0:20] Please join me in a moment of silence and our pledge of allegiance.

[0:43] And

[0:55] to begin our meeting tonight, we have a presentation by Wing Relative to the Walmart drone program.

[1:05] I will announce you, if you don't mind.

[1:08] This is Kendall Prosec, correct?

[1:11] And Natania Noor and Michelle Valera.

[1:15] And there with Wings, which is an affiliate of Walmart.

[1:19] And I'd like to proceed to the presentation by saying,

[1:22] This came about because I received a press release from Walmart and Wing about this new concept that they were introducing.

[1:29] Reach out to them to see if they could fill us in on what it was about and what the future looked like.

[1:34] They were very accommodating.

[1:36] I believe you can't even love it came and made the presentation.

[1:39] It was very good presentation and it was so impressive that I asked them to come and present it to the whole council because they know you all like to be well informed.

[1:47] There's probably a lot of questions about how can they do it, do we need to approve it?

[1:51] We'll get into that, but I believe this is an FAA matter.

[1:55] Is that correct?

[1:56] So a lot of this has to do with their flight levels, their pilots, and everything like that.

[2:00] So mostly the presentations are going to center on the convenience of what this is about, and what's going to mean it's society.

[2:05] So, ladies.

[2:07] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[2:08] Members of the City Council.

[2:09] My name is Michelle Beller.

[2:11] And I, a part of Walmart's Community Relations team.

[2:14] Thank you.

[2:15] All for the opportunity for allowing us to speak and share a little bit about Walmart.

[2:18] and a little bit about an exciting new way we're looking to serve the community, particularly here in St. Charles.

[2:26] Walmart has a long history here in Missouri. Many of you may or may not know this, but when we first came to the state in 1968.

[2:33] And in 1988 in Washington, Missouri, we actually expanded and opened our very first Super Center bringing groceries and general merchandise together under one roof.

[2:42] So Missouri has been an important part of our Walmart story and our growth and innovation quite

[2:49] frankly for decades. More importantly, we're part of the community across the state and today

[2:54] Walmart and SAMS Club have 156 locations, five supply chain facilities in Missouri and nearly

[3:00] 48,000 associates that actually call Missouri home. Something we're very proud of. We also work

[3:07] more than 870 Missouri Suppliers supporting tens of thousands of additional jobs across the state.

[3:13] And while those numbers absolutely speak to the scale of our presence, what matters most

[3:18] to us is that they represent at the community level, our associates, their neighbors, there

[3:24] are customers, our constituents, and our communities you serve are the same communities we

[3:28] have the privilege of serving every single day.

[3:32] As the needs and expectations of those communities have evolved, Walmart has also evolved

[3:36] with them. Today we describe Walmart as a people-led, tech-and-powered,

[3:40] omnichannel retailer. While the way we serve our customers has evolved over the years,

[3:45] our purpose remains consistent, helping people save money and live better, and increasingly

[3:50] technology allows us to deliver on that purpose in new ways. Making everyday life,

[3:57] more convenient, and giving customers greater choice in how and when they shop.

[4:01] Drone delivery is one of the newest examples of that evolution.

[4:05] We began exploring Drone delivery several years ago with a focus on those everyday moments

[4:09] when speed and convenience can make a meaningful difference.

[4:12] It might be an ingredient for gut net home in that recipe.

[4:16] It might be when you're preparing for dinner, baby formula, pet food, any over the counter

[4:21] medication when someone at home isn't feeling well.

[4:24] Those?

[4:25] Thank you.

[4:27] These are the very ordinary needs.

[4:29] These are very ordinary needs.

[4:30] But technology is giving us a new way to meet them, and in some cases in a matter of minutes.

[4:36] This may Walmart surpassed one million drone deliveries, and an important milestone as a service continues to grow.

[4:43] An average drone delivery takes about 23 minutes, and our customers can choose from thousands of eligible items.

[4:50] But it's also important for us to put drones delivery in context. This is not about replacing the ways our customers shop today.

[4:58] It's about providing another choice.

[5:01] For a full basket of groceries, obviously, pick up

[5:04] and one of our other delivery options may make the most sense.

[5:07] But when a customer needs one or two items quickly,

[5:10] drones delivery can provide another convenient option.

[5:12] And it can help eliminate that trip to the store

[5:14] for any forgotten item demonstrating how technology

[5:17] can help us serve our customers more efficiently

[5:19] and within the communities we serve.

[5:21] This effort we're undertaking in partnership with drone.

[5:24] or excuse me with wing, wing brings significant expertise in autonomous drone delivery and aviation.

[5:31] While Walmart brings our store and network products and long-standing relationships with the customer's and community service.

[5:37] As we bring this technology to the St. Louis region, we value the opportunity to engage with local leaders

[5:42] and the community's answer questions and help people understand what the service is and how it works.

[5:48] And with that, I'd like to introduce Kendall Prozac,

[5:51] so policy and community affairs leave from wing

[5:53] who can share more about the technology itself

[5:55] and how the delivery process works.

[5:58] And with that, I turn it over to Kendall.

[6:01] Thank you.

[6:01] Thank you so much for your time this evening.

[6:03] I just want to make sure, can everyone see the slides

[6:06] or to have to put those up?

[6:08] Thank you.

[6:09] I'm sorry.

[6:23] Just of course.

[6:24] This is our technology.

[6:26] No, that's okay.

[6:30] That's my turn to build a Mr. Mayor.

[6:36] Thank you.

[6:37] Thank you so much.

[6:39] You just heard a little bit about Walmart, and I will tell you a bit about Wing, and of course

[6:43] always here to answer any questions.

[6:46] From Wing, we started back in 2012.

[6:48] We are an alphabet company, so a Google sister company.

[6:52] And really from 2012 to 2019, we worked on our aircraft.

[6:56] We also worked in tandem with the FAA to be able to obtain our regulatory approvals to fly our aircraft safely.

[7:03] We have our part 135 air carrier certificate, a very fancy way to say, if you know, a FedEx jet liner that's going from St. Louis Regional down to Austin, Texas, that is how our 11 pound foam drone is also regulated.

[7:17] Here are a few accolades on the side. Most of our flight time is about five minutes or less. You heard that we also hit the threshold of a million deliveries to over a million customers this year.

[7:28] and we are in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most drone deliveries in an

[7:33] hour.

[7:34] But a little bit more about our aircraft and the technology.

[7:37] These are the two aircrafts that we have approved through the FAA, the one on the left

[7:42] hand side of the screen carries about two and a half pounds, it weighs just under 12 pounds

[7:47] itself.

[7:48] Cruises it about 55 miles an hour, whereas the drone on the other hand side of the screen,

[7:52] the right-hand side, doubles in payload at about five pounds, weighs just under 18 pounds,

[7:58] cruises at 60 miles an hour, and they both have a range of 12 miles.

[8:02] So again, we're not looking to fulfill your entire grocery order today or deliver a TV

[8:07] on Black Friday.

[8:08] It's really for those convenient, one-off items.

[8:11] Now, with back to school, kicking off, we know that spirit weeks are going to be strong

[8:15] in the community, and I often hear from parents, my kid came home, and I need to tie

[8:20] I shirt, so they'll order it from the drone so they don't have to take another trip in an hour

[8:25] out of their day to go find that item.

[8:29] This is a video that shows not only the process of drone delivery, but also highlights where

[8:35] we would look to set up the site, which we call a nest.

[8:38] So you can see the fence, but what I really want to talk about is how the delivery actually works.

[8:44] So crew member will come out to pack the consumers good.

[8:47] The drone is already pre-programmed and identified how to get to that customer's house safely,

[8:53] and someone will come out, load the package onto the drone, where the package actually attaches

[8:58] into the underbelly of the drone, and then it climbs up to altitude. We typically fly at about 150 feet.

[9:04] We're cleared up to 400 feet with the FAA for our waivers, and the drone takes off as a chlorophyllized

[9:09] at about 60 miles an hour. Once it reaches its destination, the customers pre-determined deliveries

[9:16] zone, you can see the drone is starting to climb down to altitude

[9:19] about 20 feet, slowly retracts the tether with the package, and once the package touches

[9:24] the ground, it unhooks itself so you don't have to figure out how to interact with another

[9:29] technology. You keep the box, the drone flies back to the Walmart and it charges up and

[9:34] does it all over again for another customer order to come through.

[9:41] I mentioned this, safety

[9:43] is very paramount for wing. We hold our part 135 air carrier and we were the first

[9:48] operator to obtain or beyond visual line of site certification, as well as using UTM, an

[9:55] uncrewed traffic management system as well.

[9:59] Something what's really unique about our system is our pilots and command or picks as we

[10:04] call them.

[10:04] They're the ones that oversee the operations remotely, so this is exactly what your pick would

[10:10] be seeing when they would drop off or rather when the drone would come to fly to your house.

[10:15] They are not looking at the drone.

[10:17] there's not a live feed, they are managing airspace, whether everything else to ensure that

[10:22] the flight is healthy, safe, and the drone is ready to reliably get to the customer's

[10:27] house.

[10:28] Back to security and privacy, this is what our cameras or rather navigation lenses see for

[10:35] the drone, backup navigation lens downward pointed, black and gray scale, and what's really

[10:41] important for me to share here is there's no live feed and no images of anyone, including

[10:46] the certified pilots like I just mentioned. So this is rather used for that navigation in the event

[10:52] that the drone actually gets cut off on communication with us or if there's a temporary flight

[10:57] restriction that's put up through a drone as first responders program or even helicopter that's

[11:03] coming through. The drone will have a pre-identified place to land typically it's a tree because

[11:08] it's a pie out of the way and then it will land there and it will say, pilot, come find me and

[11:14] collect me so I can come home. And again, we'll take that tree because it's not on public

[11:19] right of way, not on a city street sidewalk, something of that nature.

[11:24] Next thing that comes up quite a bit is sound of the aircraft. We have two noise profiles.

[11:29] What you're seeing in the middle here, 43 decibels on average, this is when our drone is cruising

[11:34] at that 150 feet and you can see we're well under ambient suburban noise, which is generally

[11:40] clocked it about 50 decibels. On the right-hand side of the screen 60.62.6 decibels on average,

[11:48] this is when our drone is in that package delivery mode at the customer's house. We're

[11:52] there for no more than 60 seconds, and we're right in line with the delivery truck or car

[11:57] driving through a neighborhood street. Last thing really for me to mention is our community

[12:03] outreach program. Not only is this near and dear to us at wing, but also our partners at Walmart.

[12:08] We want to be embedded in the community and share more outside of this meeting and meet residents where they are.

[12:14] If it's a coffee with the mayor, coffee with council member, the local farmers market.

[12:19] I saw that you had just gone through a summer concert series.

[12:22] Any opportunity like that to meet with residents where they are already showing up at community events is a great opportunity for us to bring our

[12:30] and just start sharing about our product because there is a lot of misconception about drone right now.

[12:36] And there's a lot of information that we can get out before we start flying in the community.

[12:42] And then last thing is just the setup.

[12:44] You got to see this a little bit in the video.

[12:46] But this is a rendering of what it looks like at our Lantern Metro stores.

[12:51] We typically take up about 30 parking spaces in front of a Walmart store.

[12:55] or it's a six foot fence with a storage shed that is utilizes a garage for the drones to sleep

[13:02] in at night, and then our charge pads for the drones to physically charge on during the day.

[13:08] And then an install timeline, it takes us about seven days.

[13:11] It is a very quick process as well, but happy to answer any questions that you might have.

[13:17] Thank you again.

[13:21] Do we have any questions?

[13:24] Mr. Ratchford.

[13:25] So are you definitely coming to St. Charles? Is this just a consideration where you had on the timeline?

[13:33] We're currently having conversations. This is a community that we've identified with Walmart.

[13:38] We think it would be a great option for drone delivery, but this is part of the presentation as well.

[13:44] We want to have buy and rather than just coming to the community.

[13:48] And when you enter a market, how many stores do you usually land at?

[13:57] We think they're about 15 in the region, but it depends based on a few different parameters

[14:03] with where we can fly for airspace as well as Walmart.

[14:06] Okay, good.

[14:07] Thanks for the information.

[14:08] Of course.

[14:10] Mr. Goole.

[14:11] Thank you guys for the information there.

[14:15] Worth mentioning I was a FAA or draft control or my previous life and we have an F15 pilot in the audience.

[14:20] Back here, Air Force Academy of Veterans.

[14:24] So what is the, I know we're in a very close proximity to St. Louis International Air Base,

[14:30] which I believe is class beer class sea.

[14:33] Have you guys done any sort of research with that?

[14:35] Because I know when we want to do drone shows,

[14:37] like on the riverfront, that comes into play.

[14:40] Yes, great question.

[14:41] So to get a little bit more into that,

[14:43] and I'm happy to connect you with our airspace outreach manager, Josh as well.

[14:47] But that is really big for us, so we like to operate in mode C-Bales, so St. Louis being one of them and then 30 nautical miles around that large airport.

[14:57] 38 of them in the United States.

[15:00] State's as you know, and for us it's easier to operate in the really high dense area of operations

[15:06] because everyone's swapping their signal out. So that's good for us. We have ADSB out on our aircraft as well.

[15:13] Thank you very much. I'll be consulting our pilot.

[15:18] Mr. Kyle.

[15:20] Thank you for the presentation. All the parts of our city have a lot of big trees, a lot of coverage.

[15:27] How do the drones navigate or handle that?

[15:30] Is that to those homes that come off limits?

[15:32] Or do they find the way around those trees?

[15:34] Yeah, great question.

[15:35] So before we go into a market, we'll collect all the light

[15:38] our data and basically identify what does your parcel of land

[15:42] look like versus my parcel of land versus her parcel of land,

[15:45] et cetera.

[15:46] And we really only need about a picnic blanket size space

[15:49] to make that delivery free of obstruction.

[15:52] So you might have a delivery zone in your front yard.

[15:54] It might be in your driveway.

[15:55] It could be on your side yard.

[15:57] It really just depends on what your physical land property looks like.

[16:01] And then because we're coming down at that 20 feet with the tether,

[16:05] that helps us as well with the area of opportunity for delivery.

[16:10] Thank you.

[16:11] Okay.

[16:12] Any other questions?

[16:15] Thank you guys so much for your presentation.

[16:17] Thank you.

[16:18] We look forward to learning more.

[16:20] And again, finding out additional information or your plans to enter into the market.

[16:24] We appreciate that very much.

[16:26] Thank you.

[16:32] Thank you.

[16:32] public comment section.

[16:35] The public comment portion of the meeting is an opportunity for the City Council to listen

[16:38] to the comments.

[16:39] President, do we have an appointment memo for this evening?

[16:42] From the mayor.

[16:43] I think that's after public comment.

[16:45] Oh, sure as my apologies.

[16:47] Thank you.

[16:51] It is not a question and answer session, and the mayor and City Council will not respond

[16:55] to quite two comments, or answer questions during this period.

[16:59] The mayor or the City Council may refer any matter brought up to the director of

[17:03] administration or the city clerk if action is needed.

[17:07] Notification will sound with three minutes of the lapsed.

[17:10] All persons who desire to provide public comment shall complete the speakers card in its entirety.

[17:15] And presented to the city clerk prior to the scheduled start of our city council meeting.

[17:20] Madam Clerk.

[17:21] I have a couple of speakers tonight under public comment.

[17:23] The first one is Zach Welch.

[17:26] He is an owner of property located at 800 first capital.

[17:28] And he's here speaking relative to Council Bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 6 on the agenda tonight.

[17:43] But in exactly what I just recently found out about the bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 6.

[17:50] And I had some questions regarding, like, what is the plan for acquiring the properties along

[17:55] a version of the capital there?

[17:57] And I also saw that you're wanting to go from four lanes down to three.

[18:02] Why is that a little better?

[18:05] So I saw that you're wanting to acquire a property, but you're dropping it from four lanes down to three.

[18:11] So what's the need to extend out the easements into all these properties?

[18:18] And going from four lanes down to three, I'm not quite sure how that makes it any safer for anybody here on St. Charles.

[18:27] And it's also a truck route being Highway 94 that does make it harder for truckers

[18:33] something I used to do.

[18:35] When you make a road smaller, it doesn't make it any easier for those guys.

[18:39] We do have quite a few local businesses that do rely on semi-a-delivery or large truck.

[18:45] We're also growing.

[18:47] I know we have a bunch of developments that you guys are wanting to build a new town

[18:51] expanding that is one of the routes.

[18:53] I know places like Hackman, Lumber,

[18:56] they all use those, just, that's kind of what I got.

[19:04] Yeah, that's it.

[19:05] So

[19:07] thank you very much, sir.

[19:09] No, we appreciate your time.

[19:10] We'll gather your information.

[19:11] We'll certainly reach out to you

[19:12] to be able to address some of your individual questions.

[19:15] Thank you very much.

[19:16] Adam Clark?

[19:17] Yes, our next speaker is Arnie C. A. C. Honest Abe Dean Hough.

[19:21] He's a city county public advocate

[19:23] and he's here speaking relative to the library board

[19:26] and underage driving.

[19:29] Thank you very much Mr. President, members of the council.

[19:33] First of all, I'd like to say,

[19:34] coming this meeting was kind of startled once again.

[19:39] I drive a lot throughout St. Charles City

[19:41] and all across St. Charles County,

[19:43] but coming to this meeting,

[19:45] I saw a 12 to 14 year old male driving

[19:49] a small motorcycle.

[19:51] So I'm almost certain, probably 99% that they didn't have

[19:55] are required Missouri driver's license, and there have been a lot on your misses all across

[20:01] our county.

[20:03] We want to make sure that there's not a tragedy.

[20:06] These high powered high speed electric bikes, gas vehicles, mini motor cycles, pocket

[20:12] motor cycles you can't hardly see.

[20:15] Derbikes, motor cycles, um, underage driving, with no Missouri driver's license, no driver's

[20:23] training, it's about safety, accountability, responsibility and something needs to be done

[20:28] now before a tragedy hits the community and a police officer has to go to that family

[20:35] store, knock on that door and tell their parents about the accident that happened. I would

[20:41] like the City Council to direct staff to establish a workable, sensible and police enforceable

[20:49] ordinance by making parents accountable and responsible for these high-powered vehicles that

[20:56] go 20, 30, 40, and more miles per hour.

[21:01] Something needs to be done like the other communities throughout our county.

[21:05] The next issue is the City County Public Library District.

[21:09] Tax abatement, chapter 100, giving away corporate welfare, tax incentives has got to come

[21:16] to an end.

[21:17] When city staff negotiates, I would ask you to exempt the library district for not getting the growth and the reduced income.

[21:26] Make sure that the library district gets 100% anticipated taxes after all capital improvements are built and the assessment goes on the tax rolls by the county.

[21:37] Board appointments, I was here at the last meeting and we talked about this.

[21:41] I'm making a public information request to receive the written determination and ruling of the city attorney about this issue.

[21:51] Chapter 182.291 needs to be adhered to as there is no change in state law.

[21:58] I would ask that the city council make a reconsideration of the city attorney's decision and do the right thing in this case.

[22:06] If not, I can challenge at Rida Main Damis and ask our County Circuit Court for judicial review.

[22:14] I believe that the once-full appointment of a once-full citizen to the Library City County Public Library District Board of Trustees is highly illegal.

[22:23] Under the law, there is no significant order.

[22:29] Public case law, specifically litigating or altering the statutory appointment process

[22:34] to the city council. Thank you.

[22:36] Thank you.

[22:37] Thank you.

[22:40] No further public comment speakers.

[22:43] Thank you, Madam Clerk.

[22:45] To the report of the mayor.

[22:46] Thank you.

[22:47] I'm going to wave my report tonight and

[22:50] consideration of the number of people who have it in between.

[22:53] I do have some appointments.

[22:55] I have an appointment to the Parks and Recreation Board.

[22:58] Mr. Paul Jokers, who will be filling the vacant position,

[23:01] firmly held by Tim Gloser for a term expiring May 2029 and the appointment of Missy Palach who

[23:08] will be filling the vacant position of firmly held by Sandy Buckle for a term expiring May

[23:13] May 2027 and for the Senior Citizens Advisory Commission, the reappointment of Shelley Roy,

[23:19] whose term would expire August 2026 for another term expiring August 29 and the reappointment

[23:31] Mr. Allender.

[23:33] Now I'd like to make a motion to approve the appointment of the

[23:36] dated August 6th, 2026.

[23:40] Okay.

[23:40] Okay, a motion in a second.

[23:42] Roll call just in Faust.

[23:44] Michael Galba.

[23:45] Brian Gold.

[23:46] Bart Hayberstrow.

[23:47] Hi.

[23:47] Mark Hollander.

[23:48] Steve Hollander.

[23:50] Chris Kyle.

[23:51] Denise Mitchell.

[23:52] Hi.

[23:52] Vince Bradchford.

[23:53] Hi.

[23:53] Tom Brooney.

[23:54] All right.

[23:54] That passes.

[23:58] No further report, Mr. Mayor.

[23:59] No sir, that's complete.

[24:00] Thank you.

[24:01] Announcements from Council members. Do we have any this evening? Mr. Kyle.

[24:08] Yeah, a few events going on in Ward 1, a music on Maine tomorrow night. Uh, five to seven

[24:12] 30. Uh, of course, Festival Little Hills is this weekend. Uh, I'm going on, I guess Friday through Sunday.

[24:20] Uh, which is going to move the State Charles Market to French Town. So if you're looking for the

[24:29] Street, between is that brain bridge and Howard. Very good. Thank you. And then also

[24:38] reminder that August 26th, 6 o'clock, we have the Eden Village Town Hall Foundry,

[24:43] where we'll be discussing an opportunity to bring in a, bring in the Eden Village to

[24:50] help our homeless, some of that Mayor Borgmarge has been working hard on and is going to

[24:55] help explain that and get the word up to the community. So thank you for that.

[25:00] Mr. Rashford. Two quick callouts on city staff. We had a couple of issues in Ward 3. We had

[25:07] some paint across walk and some lane striping that needed to be refreshed. Staff got out

[25:12] and took care of that quickly. We also had a no parking zone that was not signed, but should

[25:16] have been. Staff also came out and took care of that. So, Mr. DeBrosky, thanks to the director

[25:20] and the staff members who did that. Thank you. Mr. Goole.

[25:25] Yeah, piggyback on that, Mr. Redford with the city staff, we got some correspondence this week from our city administrator, Larry de Broski, our city staff had taken up a pretty large task of raising money as you're aware.

[25:40] What was that a few months ago when we were going through a little bit of a crunch there when we were going through a food shortage and stuff.

[25:46] of the team and the city hall and the prison over $100,000, 15 of that was recently donated

[25:54] to the care services of St. Jokemonan. That's gone to a new freezer. And in their correspondence

[26:02] back to us, it says your generosity provides a foundation of hope for over 4,000 people in

[26:07] our community. So as you go around the city of St. Charles and the city hall, you see things

[26:12] say we are STC or STC proud. This defines that. Thank you, Mr. Browsky, thank you for the work

[26:19] and thank you to all the city staff who's helped.

[26:24] Any further comments?

[26:28] Okay, we can move on to our public hearing.

[26:32] Public hearings are an opportunity for the City Council

[26:34] to listen to input about a particular topic or item being considered by the council.

[26:40] It is not a question and answer session and the City Council will not respond to comments

[26:44] or answer questions during this period.

[26:47] A notification will sound when five minutes have elapsed.

[26:51] All persons speaking at a public hearing shall complete a speaker's card in its entirety

[26:55] and presented to the City Clerk prior to the scheduled start of the City Council meeting.

[27:00] Madam Clerk.

[27:01] Yeah, the very first public hearing is case number Z-2026-19 for back-sengineering.

[27:07] As noted on the agenda, this application was tabled at the July 13th,

[27:11] 26 planning and zoning commission meeting until the August 10th, 2026 planning and zoning

[27:16] commission meeting.

[27:17] Therefore, I would entertain a motion to hold this public hearing open on case

[27:21] number Z-202619 open until your September 1, 2026 regular city council meeting.

[27:29] No move.

[27:31] Mr. Burton.

[27:32] Second.

[27:35] Rolkha, Michael Galba, Brian Gold, Bart Hayberströ, Mark Collender, Steve Hollander,

[27:42] Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell, Vince Ratchford, Tom Brooney, and Justin Bows, that passes.

[27:51] Next is case number Z-2026-13, Mike Burkhard B. E. Designing Management.

[27:58] As noted on your agenda, this application was tabled at the July 13, 2026 planning and zoning

[28:03] commission meeting until the August 10th, 2026 planning and zoning commission meeting.

[28:07] Again, retain a motion tonight then to hold this public hearing on case number Z-2026

[28:12] 13 open until the September 1, 2026 regular city council meeting.

[28:18] Don't move. Second.

[28:20] Right. Second and a roll of call. Brian Gold.

[28:24] Bart Haberstrow. Mark Hollander.

[28:26] Steve Hollander. Chris Kyle. Denise Mitchell.

[28:30] I then scratch for Tom Brooney. Justin Faust and Michael Galba.

[28:35] Right.

[28:40] Next up is Case Z-2026-14.

[28:44] Larson development LLC. This is an application for the annexation and establishment of zoning

[28:49] of an overall 5.75 acre more or less, tract of land located at 17.04 Mughi Road from county

[28:57] R1E single family residential district to city R-1E single family residential district. The

[29:03] subject property will be located in Ward 5 upon annexation and that's referencing council

[29:08] the 1, 4, 1, 2, 3 on your agenda, which there was a supplemental RCA attached.

[29:14] Good evening, Council.

[29:15] Mayor, as you recall, from last council meeting there were a number of items this project was associated with.

[29:21] Associated with a development on Mugie Road.

[29:23] This is the first bill out of four.

[29:27] Associated with that, that is for the establishment of zoning via an annexation.

[29:32] The request on this particular item was to take from county R1E standards to the city,

[29:37] are one of these standards associated with the annexation.

[29:41] This item was tabled at the last meeting to do some design requests from Council concerning

[29:47] the development on one of the later applications.

[29:49] We'll talk about here in a moment.

[29:51] But this item is back on for public hearing and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have on this one.

[29:59] Any questions?

[30:04] I have several on this item. First up is Charlie Pellant and he is here speaking relative to KC-2026-14.

[30:16] Thank you for letting me speak to this evening. First of all, thank you for a lot of correspondence.

[30:21] to go back and forth. And for those gentlemen and those

[30:24] and ladies that responded back to us, we appreciated for those

[30:28] that didn't, we hope we were able to read what we sent.

[30:32] Ms. Mitchell, thank you.

[30:33] You responded to every one of our messages.

[30:36] Our emails, our correspondence, and we sent.

[30:39] What I want to do really is we've spoke about this numerous times.

[30:43] And the new development really affects Hampton Place Court

[30:47] more than it does in the other development that is because it

[30:49] directly up to us. And what I want to do is I want to just try to throw a light a little bit

[30:54] light on the development compared to Hampton Place. Hampton Place Court is on 5.5 acres.

[31:01] There's 12 units, 12 units, 24 homes. Each one of the homes are solely owned, owner occupied.

[31:12] No rentals, we have a board of directors that is a poignant and I'll let it buy the members of the housing, the people that live in the community.

[31:24] Comparing that to the new development that's proposed, we are 5.5 acres, 12 units, 24 homes.

[31:32] The new development is 8.3 acres, they want to put in 25 units, 50 homes, 50 homes.

[31:40] I don't know how they're going to be able to squeeze twice as many homes into a plot that

[31:47] is maybe two and a half acres, two and a half acres bigger than what Hampton Places.

[31:55] Hampton Places Court, if we went to open a lemonade stand, we wouldn't have the room,

[31:59] we wouldn't even have the room to do that.

[32:01] I mean, that's how tight we are.

[32:04] So I just don't understand how they're going to get all those homes into that small

[32:09] of an area.

[32:09] It's a beautiful development.

[32:11] It's just in the wrong place we think for what they're trying to do.

[32:18] They have been very accommodating to us to large and people that they've met with us several

[32:22] times.

[32:23] And some of our biggest concerns were the dog park.

[32:26] We didn't want to dog park back.

[32:27] obviously backing up to our property, they agreed to move to Dog Park, but when they moved to

[32:34] Dog Park, they talked about an area where the Dog Park was supposed to be, it was going

[32:38] to be common ground.

[32:40] It was going to be landscape, it was going to be trees and shrubs placed in there, and

[32:46] quoting what Larsson people said, we're going to make it better than it was before.

[32:50] If you look at the new plot that they just developed, they moved to driveway.

[32:54] So that area where the dog park was supposed to be a squeeze two more houses in there, two more units in there, and then talking about moving the driveway

[33:05] They want to move it up. I don't know how many feet that is may. I don't be from where it is to where they want to where they want to move it

[33:12] I think that's going to create more issues and more problems in a while

[33:15] That way you've got Hampton place

[33:16] You've got

[33:18] The new set of isn't stone loss. Maybe 200 feet both trying to enter and enter

[33:25] I don't have a traffic study, but I'd be willing to bet that Muggy Road is one of the

[33:32] busiest roads commuter roads in St. Charles. It's a cut-through between I-70 from I-70

[33:39] to be able to get to 364 and 94, so it's extremely busy. I just don't know that it can handle

[33:47] more traffic.

[33:51] They talked about the boundary line. Our houses back up to common ground and a

[33:58] wooded area. When we bought those homes, that was an added expense for us so we could have.

[34:04] So we had common ground behind us. They agreed to us what they were going to do is that they were

[34:09] going to start their property line or new construction anywhere between 15 to 20 feet farther back

[34:15] of the property line so we can maintain that shrubbery,

[34:19] which was fine with us.

[34:21] My problem is, I don't believe them.

[34:24] Because once they get a hold of that property,

[34:26] they can do whatever they want to do and what are you going to do.

[34:29] There's nothing you can do once it's there

[34:30] as they can do what they want to do.

[34:32] I mean, they can come up with any excuse and well

[34:34] that we had to do it for this reason.

[34:36] We had to do it for that reason.

[34:37] So I just am very concerned about that.

[34:44] The driveway also, you get two dryways that are very close to each other, and I think that creates a real traffic.

[34:55] In fact, I know of two people in Hampton Play's Court that have been re-rendered on New Yorky Road because of the hill,

[35:01] cresting the hill when you press the hill and you stop to make a left-hand turn. It's very easy for somebody to

[35:11] Took to revenge you. I mean, it's just simple. I know two people that that's happened to you know, we've expressed that concern

[35:17] I mean, there's nothing else and we can say we spoke and kiss her. I appreciate it. Okay, I just one more quick thing

[35:23] I'm sorry to show you time has expired. I don't think that was apologize

[35:31] The agenda 7, 5 minutes, 11 minutes.

[35:36] All right.

[35:37] Yes.

[35:38] Our next speaker is Bill Notten.

[35:40] He's also here speaking relative to KC-2026-14.

[35:54] Thank you.

[35:55] So, sorry for the delay.

[35:56] I'm about.

[35:57] No worries.

[35:58] Thank you for the microphone here.

[35:59] Good morning, sir.

[36:01] I'm just fine.

[36:02] I have three items of focus to speak about.

[36:06] The first is rental properties versus single family homes.

[36:10] I'd venture to say that this specific area of St. Charles has not maxed out in accommodating upscale single-family subdivisions.

[36:19] These subdivisions bring long-term security and sustenance to a community.

[36:24] Once rental properties start to encroach upon an area, single-family subdivisions, division developers,

[36:31] I would say, look elsewhere, the slide in this case becomes exponential in my opinion.

[36:39] Single family subdivisions need to be focused upon in this area of St. Charles, and incentivize for long-term areas stability.

[36:48] I think the American dream is still to own a home, and I think that should be our area of focus here.

[36:55] My next item of focus is road safety on Muggy Road specifically.

[37:02] I don't know if you're all familiar with this specific stretch of Muggy Road, but this is,

[37:08] let's say the quarter mile coming off right off of the paid extension and coming down the hill towards Greatstone.

[37:15] So Muggy Road continues to grow and it's overused as it got through from paid the paid extension to Mexico and to Highway 70.

[37:23] Even with an entrance change in this regard further south, the rush hour traffic, it coming off a page, is that a volume that is just hard to comprehend, and let's just see it.

[37:36] My wife and I avoid making a left at Graystone, where we live at these times, even with a traffic light there, and the left turn line to accommodate that.

[37:46] Well, we'll go up and turn at a earlier stop, so we don't, we can avoid this rush hour traffic in the traffic that's the chaos that's there.

[37:58] Driver's turning left at this entrance with no, at the entrance to this new complex with no traffic light, if you can imagine that, no traffic light or a left turning lane.

[38:09] Well, back up cars, well-north of Graystone, and generally caused chaos.

[38:14] Accidents can and should be expected, in my opinion.

[38:17] Please bear in mind that 200 rental units are also being built at Muggy Road, and at old

[38:22] 94, right, across from the Walgreens there, and this is just up to the block.

[38:28] Traffic chaos is going to be the new norm in this location.

[38:33] And then my next item was privacy.

[38:36] With many mature trees being destroyed due to this project, the natural barrier they provide will be eliminated.

[38:45] The proposed new six-foot trees that are going to be put around the perimeter will not suffice for this purpose or privacy as they will take years to grow and they will not give us what we have now for many years to come if ever.

[38:59] So, and that is, that's, those are the three points I had at one in the mix, so I thank you.

[39:07] Thank you, Mr. Dalton.

[39:12] Okay.

[39:13] Our next speaker is John Black, and he is here speaking relative to this application in the

[39:18] Muggy Larson development.

[39:26] Thank you, Council.

[39:27] I appreciate you having me again.

[39:31] I spoke with Aaron at Planning and Zoning today, and part of the reason

[39:39] that Larson wanted R3, instead of R2, is because R2 only would allow for 44 units in that space.

[39:53] R3 allows for 50, just 100 cars.

[39:59] The traffic is going to be awful.

[40:03] Spring mill estate has 200 homes, one way in, one way out.

[40:10] Bogey Hills has two entrances.

[40:13] One is Burley Camp, which hardly anybody uses there by the church.

[40:19] And, you get your road.

[40:20] It's very crowded.

[40:22] Luckily, in Bogey, where I live, they have a fifth lane,

[40:27] turning away, where this development is going to be, there will be no turning away.

[40:34] The traffic, if you go through there and drive, the traffic is horrendous in the morning

[40:41] and in the late afternoon, I'm concerned about my wife driving myself, my children, to

[40:49] from our house, it's just so much traffic, and one last thing, not to scare anybody, but

[41:00] lawsuits are the norm these days with huge settlements in the multi millions of dollars.

[41:09] And God forbid, somebody gets killed pulling in or out of this new arson development.

[41:18] are maimed, can't walk anymore.

[41:21] There could be a multi-million dollar suit against the city, since all of these traffic concerns

[41:29] have been raised over and over and over and to just ignore your constituents.

[41:37] There's only two people farthest, the seller and the developer.

[41:41] Everyone else in this room, the homeowners are against it because we know how much traffic

[41:49] there is. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Black.

[41:57] Speaker is Sue Gloser and she's here speaking relative to KC-2026-14 the

[42:03] Larson development.

[42:22] Hello, my name is Sue Gloser.

[42:54] Hello, I'm sorry. My name is Sue Gloser.

[42:57] I'm here to voice my opposition to the proposed stone mill, stone moss villas, overwhelmingly the people in this area have spoken and do not want this development to go forward.

[43:11] You all get to vote on this and forget about it. The people in New York neighborhoods will live with it forever.

[43:19] Please listen to the citizens you represent and vote no on this project.

[43:23] As a Grandmother, I have young grandchildren on New Year Road, and I am concerned very concerned for their safety.

[43:32] It has always been a busy road, but the connection to 365 has had serious effects.

[43:40] It went from being a virtual highway to an actual one.

[43:44] Please don't allow 50 runaway units in the area to further expand the problem.

[43:51] Thank you.

[43:52] Thank you for the disclosure.

[43:59] Here is Dave Lampert, and he is here speaking relative to 7C, Larson Development.

[44:08] Good evening, Council.

[44:09] Thank you for listening.

[44:13] With all the people that have complained or are opposed to this, I would agree with most

[44:21] of all of the issues that everyone has raised.

[44:24] Traffic is obviously going to be a problem.

[44:26] I've lived at 40 Hampton Plays Court for about eight months now, so I'm new to the area.

[44:34] I moved in there with the understanding that it would kind of stay the way it is.

[44:42] And behind me is a detention pond, which works very well.

[44:49] And I guess my biggest concern with this development is the water.

[44:53] I know the max with Lars and his told us that he's done the sewer, head sewer up.

[45:03] Work done so that they can kind of see what needs to be done there, and that it will be better than it is, but where I came from, I had flooding all the time in my home, and I had MSD at my house at least once a year, and I got the same answer every time. It's not their problem, it's the heavy rains.

[45:25] Well, the heavy rains are great, if you can't avoid them, but the more you put the more

[45:35] you put hard property down, the more you're going to have problems with water and where

[45:42] it's going to go.

[45:44] So my concern is will the sewers hold the water that's going to be produced and it's kind

[45:51] But there's no guarantee, so if we end up with water, then nobody's going to take a responsibility

[45:58] for that.

[45:59] It's going to be on the homeowner that's going to have to deal with these issues.

[46:05] Again, I'm opposed.

[46:07] I agree with all the other issues.

[46:09] I think the traffic is going to be rough.

[46:12] It's going to be terrible if this development goes in.

[46:17] The rental is an issue but again for me I think one of my biggest concerns is is the water that that I don't know where it's going to go and and if there's no guarantees then I'm you know, I'm not going to I'm I'm going to be opposed to that.

[46:34] Also, just to reiterate that these are the communities that have opposed this area.

[46:43] It's the Hampton Place area, the Sugar Mill area, Bogey Hills area, and the Die Camp area.

[46:52] If you vote yes, it will be just disrespectful to all the established residents and with an outsider who has no obligation to the city of St. Charles.

[47:03] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Lepard.

[47:09] Speaker is Arnie C. A. C. Honest. A. Dean Hoff. He's a city county public advocate and

[47:15] speaking relative to 7 C. The application 2026-14.

[47:20] Thank you very much Mr. President, members of the council. My public testimony and comments

[47:26] applied to all three actually, 14, 15, and 16 with the Larson Development.

[47:32] You know, folks, it's about sensible and responsible development and growth.

[47:39] If you look at various parts of our county, there have been a call

[47:42] and a huge key to device from residents about limiting

[47:48] developing, promoting or proving smart growth and responsible growth that is going to

[47:56] play havoc on adjoining neighborhoods on traffic or on M4 or retention detention issues.

[48:06] First of all, the zoning intensity is way out of proportion, especially with the 50 townhomes

[48:13] or villas, not sure what they're mentioning them and several documents they mentioned, town

[48:18] homes and then they call them villas.

[48:20] M4 State and city requirements over at the forefront with this issue as a former as

[48:26] the previous speaker testified just a moment ago.

[48:31] The city has been experiencing, especially in June and July, 100, 200, 100, 100,000 year

[48:37] flood events.

[48:38] The city has been experiencing these.

[48:41] I believe this development being dense and giving special disposition to the developer

[48:50] is putting additional pressure on adjoining neighborhoods when it comes to erosion control,

[48:56] retention and detention.

[48:58] The small five family of villas or town homes, as I said, they're stated different definitions

[49:04] and different documents within the City Council packet.

[49:11] They're trying to stop a lot of buildings on this 14.14 acres combined between the two parcels.

[49:18] It's a way too much development.

[49:20] In my opinion, it's misuse of the City codified ordinances, providing for PD zoning, planned development zoning.

[49:29] In essence, it's giving it free pass or more units and a ridiculous free pass to the ever-going

[49:39] profits of the developer while citizens will suffer for traffic volume, quality of life,

[49:49] and why the bank question of the council is, why do developers always have to have the power

[49:56] and be in control in the driver's seat?

[49:58] They're not in the driver's seat, you ten people are responsible to the citizens behind

[50:04] me, and to all the citizens of the city.

[50:08] It's unfortunately as all come down to the old mighty dollar and the old mighty prophet trying

[50:14] to cram as many homes as many town homes as many villas as it possibly can get away with,

[50:21] while a joining neighborhood's have to suffer with those consequences.

[50:25] There

[50:31] needs to be a breaks foot on this development and on this application.

[50:36] There needs to be a really downed earth debate and asking information by each council member.

[50:45] There needs to be provided much more information, data, research, and there has to be

[50:50] serious and deep down humble and truthful conversations between the council which hardly

[50:56] happens and it happens behind closed doors rather than in the open under chapter 610 of the

[51:02] Open Meetings Act.

[51:05] I'm tired of the City Council not listening to outside special

[51:10] interest group, especially from developers and the Eastern Missouri Home Builders Association

[51:15] and the St. Charles County Realtor Political Action Committee, which unfortunately is donated

[51:21] to several of your city council campaigns.

[51:26] We see and know where the big donor and large donations are coming from in city council

[51:31] election campaigns.

[51:34] I think it's high time that you put the breaks on this development.

[51:37] They're asking too much.

[51:38] They're trying to bite too much off the apple.

[51:41] And it's unfortunate that this council is letting this type of development happen at a very

[51:47] urban, very already dense neighborhood area.

[51:52] I think you need to take into account what this is going to do

[51:55] and have the effect on the quality of life,

[51:58] on the effect of residents who have invested in these neighborhoods,

[52:02] in the erosion control, the retention detention,

[52:05] especially with the floods.

[52:07] I believe one city council member, I believe it was Mr. Rattford,

[52:10] stated that there's one home in St. Charles of Flooded,

[52:14] at least two times within a week period.

[52:17] and that's very serious consideration.

[52:20] I'm against this development.

[52:21] Thank you, Mr. President.

[52:23] Thank you, Mr. D. health.

[52:27] All right. Next up is Katherine Moore.

[52:29] She's here representing the applicant,

[52:31] Larson Development,

[52:32] and speaking relative to this item,

[52:35] but I believe she's going to go ahead

[52:36] and take this time to speak relative to D&E

[52:39] on the agenda as well.

[53:00] Okay.

[53:09] Good evening, members of the council.

[53:11] Mr. Mayor, my name is Katherine Moore.

[53:13] I was here at the last public hearing.

[53:15] and this is a continued public hearing.

[53:17] So I will try to briefly, briefly, do a recap,

[53:20] and then more speak to what we've done

[53:22] since the last public hearing

[53:24] in moving this project forward.

[53:26] So as everyone knows,

[53:28] Stone Moss Villas is intended to be a luxury villa community

[53:32] that is 100% consistent with the residential nature

[53:36] of Mugie Road and the development

[53:38] sought in the comprehensive plan of the city of St. Charles.

[53:41] Larson Development has an excellent reputation, and even some of the public speakers who are opposed to this project have complemented our group on our willingness to work with neighboring property owners

[53:53] and complemented our group on the aesthetics of our communities that have seen in line and potentially in person as well.

[54:00] The tenants that are going to be targeted for Stone Moss Villas are unique tenants, they're not

[54:07] apartment tenants. They are tenants who want to be a part of a community, want maintenance-free,

[54:14] luxury living with open floor plans, modern features, their professionals, their empty nesters,

[54:20] who for whatever reasons that they're allowed to have are choosing not to be homeowners at that moment.

[54:27] Travel, flexibility, professional moves, many things, leads someone to be one of these high-end

[54:35] renters for this community.

[54:39] The homes are all going to be of high value as we discussed at the last public hearing,

[54:43] and they will not in any way less in property values.

[54:47] These are individually plated, single family lots, just like any other villa community in

[54:53] the city.

[54:54] The exterior elevations, however, and the interior finishes are going to be top of the line high-end finishes and features as has been seen in your packets and detailed in the staff report.

[55:07] Further, with third party property management and maintenance companies in charge of Larson developments, they look pristine.

[55:18] They will be maintained in a uniform,

[55:22] top of its class fashion throughout.

[55:25] So this will be one of the most attractive communities

[55:28] in the city of sea Charles.

[55:30] Because it will always be uniformly maintained by one company

[55:35] doing the maintenance.

[55:36] And that is what these residents are going to be looking for.

[55:40] There's community rules that limit what can be done,

[55:43] what can be in the yard, no fences, no pools,

[55:46] no playground equipment.

[55:47] And that's for the landscapers, the moors, the irrigation company, that will be taking care of the community to allow that uniform, high-end aesthetic look.

[55:58] Stone Moss Villas will allow current residents in St. Charles, who are wanting to get rid of their mortgage again.

[56:05] For whatever reason they may have, or increase their living space in one of these large village units without taking on alone.

[56:14] There is a place for current residents, it's stone moss fillers, but there's also an opportunity to attract professionals, empty nesters, and other lifestyle occupants to this community, to this development, to this city, to shop in the city, to become part of the city, to volunteer in the city.

[56:34] This is not some sort of transient, lower-end environment.

[56:38] This is a high-end luxury villa community

[56:41] on single-family residential lots that is being proposed.

[56:45] Here is the color version of the plan I know you've received.

[56:49] Since our last public hearing, there was discussion

[56:52] from the city's engineering staff about the potential

[56:56] to move the access point off of Mugi Road to a different location.

[57:01] And the purpose was to increase sight distance on Mughi because there was discussion of the size of the road of the amount of traffic anticipated one day on Mughi.

[57:14] It's not there yet. Mughi was built to be a 40,000 car a day road according to your city engineer.

[57:21] So that access point was changed to think about future situations to think about this meeting and the sight distance safety that's needed now.

[57:30] And now it has been conclusively reviewed by the city staff, the city engineers, city planning department,

[57:38] and it exceeds the city standards and is deemed safe.

[57:42] And I like this exhibit because you see the new access point, you see the new plantings,

[57:47] and all of the dark green areas on the borders.

[57:50] That's preserved vegetation.

[57:52] There is a lot of tree preservation here, especially along all of the borders.

[57:56] and that was something we did after meeting with the neighbors and the landscaping package.

[58:01] Well, result in hundreds of new trees and bushes beautifying the site.

[58:09] Traffic and safety was the biggest discussion point tonight so far public comment and at the first public hearing.

[58:16] So to run through that, the revised plan with the alternative access point on Muggy Road meets the city code.

[58:25] It also meets the review criteria of your city's engineering department, who said it is a

[58:31] it exceeds site distance needed for this development.

[58:35] An outside traffic consultant, lock-mular group, submitted that traffic assessment for

[58:41] this project, that provided and concluded using current statistics and traffic engineering

[58:49] data that this project will have no meaningful impact on the traffic on Muggy Road.

[58:57] And then after reviewing that assessment and reviewing the data, your city staff agreed

[59:02] with them. Muggy Road is built to withstand traffic. And this 50 home community will not

[59:12] impact what Muggy Road has been built for. And that is for development expansion for access

[59:18] from page, all of the things that we've heard from residents.

[59:22] And this small village community will in no way

[59:25] have a significant impact barely any whatsoever

[59:29] on Muggy Road's current traffic counts,

[59:31] according to every engineer, and I'm not an engineer.

[59:35] But every engineer at the city and with the outside consultants

[59:38] agrees on that point.

[59:40] City staff recommended that that entrance

[59:43] may move for site distance alone, not for traffic counts

[59:48] traffic, safety, it had met the code, but because it could be better. So we relocated it to make it better.

[59:54] We want this to be the best possible luxury community. We're also eliminating the three existing...

[1:00:00] I've always on Mugie and a one-road built to city specifications. And that's really important. Right now, there's three different entrances where cars can access. Given their single family homes, I acknowledge that. But now, we have a full city-spec roadway that will connect to Mugie.

[1:00:18] Stone Moss Villas will have safe and efficient access, not causing a danger to the community,

[1:00:25] or to the existing traffic patterns on Muggy Road and accordance with staff's conclusions.

[1:00:32] And we agree with them wholeheartedly.

[1:00:34] And no other sort of recommendations have been advised to accommodate this community.

[1:00:40] Again, it is considered to be a small residential community.

[1:00:45] There was some discussion at the last public hearing about land use about the zoning classification and what's really going on here.

[1:00:54] So I just need to clarify that this is a single family residential development on individually platted lots like any residential development.

[1:01:04] This is not a condo. This is not an apartment. It does not meet the definition of multi-family land use under the city's code.

[1:01:10] So, hypothetically, in the future, should something change, these lots will, on day one,

[1:01:19] after they're plated, be scalable as individual lots.

[1:01:22] These are not compounded in any way.

[1:01:24] These are not duplexes, they don't share a lot, they don't share ground.

[1:01:29] So this is a single family residential development per the city's code.

[1:01:34] Our three A was recommended to us by city staff and I saw that there was a supplemental memo from the planning department about that.

[1:01:43] And that was because this isn't a duplex community and it's not an apartment community.

[1:01:47] It is a single family community and that was the zoning code and classification that's been used most recently for villas in the city.

[1:01:56] And I have a map that I will pull up here in a second to show you that.

[1:02:01] Density, here, is lower than many of the residential communities up and along Muggy Road, and lower

[1:02:08] than numerous Villa communities and townhom communities that have been approved recently by the City Council

[1:02:15] and recommended by the Planning and Zoning Commission. So this is of lower density than similarly

[1:02:21] created recent projects. This meets the city's code for planned development. There's 26%

[1:02:29] and ground. And that was to cushion the site from the neighbors. There's lots of

[1:02:34] common ground. There's lots of landscaping. There's lots of tree preservation.

[1:02:38] And it is buffered effectively. And those are all common ground areas.

[1:02:43] Or I'm sorry, those are all areas that will be maintained by the property owner.

[1:02:47] So this open space element is why plant district zoning exists in the first place.

[1:02:53] is to allow for clustered green spaces to exist as buffers and to make that a community amenity.

[1:03:02] There's amenities included the dog park, the pavilion, there's all those new trees, sidewalks

[1:03:07] on both sides of the street, the new city street, and safe and efficient planning and land use

[1:03:13] has been included in the project plan for this luxury village community.

[1:03:17] Here is a map showing the PDR and R3A. In the area, right around this site, this has been

[1:03:27] how development along Mugin, this direct vicinity, has been progressing. So not going

[1:03:34] with R3A and not doing a plan district for this particular site would have actually been inconsistent

[1:03:40] with recent staff recommendations and recent planning and zoning commission decisions

[1:03:46] and recent city council decisions.

[1:03:48] This is cohesive and consistent with what is in this direct vicinity, and it's in line with

[1:03:55] the growth plans that have been coming forward from the use of the city's zoning code and

[1:03:59] the comprehensive plan.

[1:04:01] And some of the communities that have similar densities, similar development patterns, similar

[1:04:07] zoning, Hampton Place, Spring Oak, St. Charles Cross Crossing, Central Park, Hawthorne

[1:04:12] Grove, Oakley Place, and there's more.

[1:04:15] And these are all detailed in your staff report.

[1:04:19] So, as part of coming here to planning a zoning commission,

[1:04:23] and then to the first public hearing before the council and now here,

[1:04:26] we have done so much outreach,

[1:04:29] and I think you've heard in the public comments that the neighbors

[1:04:32] don't complain to that.

[1:04:34] We've made changes.

[1:04:35] We've relocated that dog part.

[1:04:37] Increased tree preservation by lessening the grading limits

[1:04:40] along the borders of this site.

[1:04:42] We relocated that access point on Mughe, which is the only adjacent road.

[1:04:46] It's the only road that can provide access to this site.

[1:04:49] But we relocated it to the most safe and efficient place in line with city staff's recommendations.

[1:04:55] And after the city council asked us to please look at it and if it's better make that change.

[1:05:00] So we've done that.

[1:05:01] We've met with the neighbors and understand how adding stormwater infrastructure to this site will increase

[1:05:08] It's a recurrent runoff that isn't managed, because there is no stormwater management on this site as it exists today.

[1:05:14] We have made every change and met every recommendation that city staff has asked of us.

[1:05:20] And we've worked with the neighbors as much as we can to try to limit the impact on their communities.

[1:05:30] The biggest opposition we heard tonight and at the last public hearing was traffic.

[1:05:34] and access to Mugit. I've already discussed that with you and that's in your staff

[1:05:40] report. It's in the record or for the council, what all of the consultants and city

[1:05:45] staff members have opined on traffic and sight distance on the current plan. The other one

[1:05:51] I heard was briefly density, but the our density here, which is detailed in your staff

[1:05:55] report is less than other recent villa and similar projects. And then the other item that

[1:06:02] we heard was rental.

[1:06:07] Rental is an interesting concept,

[1:06:09] and I understand why the neighbors are concerned

[1:06:11] and have concerns, and I understand why the council

[1:06:13] just feels odd about it.

[1:06:15] It's new, it's different.

[1:06:17] But this is not a multi-family community.

[1:06:21] It's a single family residential community

[1:06:24] where the current owner developer wants to enter

[1:06:28] into long term leases of these luxury homes.

[1:06:31] under the Constitution, under Missouri statute, long term lease is a year or more, are protected.

[1:06:39] Anyone on this council, anyone in this audience has the right, should they ever have the need or want to rent their single family home for long term lease?

[1:06:47] Not Airbnb is not short term lease as we all know those are regulated.

[1:06:51] So if you look at the city's zoning code, if you look at the comprehensive plan,

[1:06:55] nowhere in the review criteria is the identity of the occupant, or rental, long-term rental.

[1:07:04] It's just simply not in there.

[1:07:06] It's for the best, most efficient planning use for a site, and a luxury villa residential

[1:07:12] communities surrounded by other residential communities and luxury communities and

[1:07:16] villa communities really makes sense to us, and makes sense to the property owner who, you

[1:07:22] know, is the property under contract with us.

[1:07:25] So we asked you to really take a look at that.

[1:07:28] We had almost unanimous approval from the Planning and

[1:07:32] Zoning Commission to recommend approval to the Council.

[1:07:36] Staff report recommended approval.

[1:07:38] And that was after intense review of the city's

[1:07:40] Zoning Code comprehensive plan and other recent land use

[1:07:44] approval decisions.

[1:07:46] And so we are asking the city council to approve the

[1:07:49] annexation and the zoning petitions in the preliminary

[1:07:52] development plan for this project.

[1:07:54] Not based on us being a developer, it's about this being an excellent, beautiful project that fits on this site, and it's directly consistent and cohesive with other developmental community road.

[1:08:09] And we thank you for your consideration, and we're hearing some questions.

[1:08:21] And the last council meeting during the public hearing, Ms.

[1:08:28] MacJosh indicated that the applicant was speaking relative to each item and

[1:08:33] rather break up her presentation five minutes, five minutes on each item.

[1:08:37] We can dance them into one item.

[1:08:38] She will not be speaking again under 70 or 70.

[1:08:41] You're welcome.

[1:08:44] Very good.

[1:08:46] And I have no further speakers on this public hearing.

[1:08:49] Any questions?

[1:08:53] Yeah, I call you under seven C.

[1:08:56] Did I not?

[1:08:59] Donna McCarrison?

[1:09:01] I'm sorry.

[1:09:02] Donna McCarrison.

[1:09:10] I apologize, Miss McCarrison.

[1:09:12] Okay, last time I didn't get to speak, because I didn't know my form had to be and before

[1:09:15] them in.

[1:09:16] I got you.

[1:09:17] I wanted to get it right.

[1:09:18] Yeah, you did.

[1:09:19] That's my fault.

[1:09:20] My apologies.

[1:09:21] Thank you for your patience.

[1:09:22] I appreciate it.

[1:09:23] You're welcome.

[1:09:24] My name's Donna McCarrison.

[1:09:25] Harrison and I live on Hampton Place Court,

[1:09:31] I want to speak on two things, first briefly on the traffic, we've kind of beat that went to death, but I have to tell you that I'm no traffic study expert, but I do know that when I have to make a left turn into Hampton Place Court, I put on my emergency flyers.

[1:09:54] I say a prayer as I look in my rear view mirror, and I hope that whoever comes

[1:10:01] barrel in behind me is not tuning in their radio or glancing at their phone

[1:10:06] because I'm going to get rear-ended, and it's come close so many times.

[1:10:13] I know that the two-mile stretch between Old Highway 94, where Walgreens is, and Old

[1:10:22] the U.G. road where Watson's is has eight different left turn lanes on it.

[1:10:29] Center lanes designed for left turns.

[1:10:33] And I'm no traffic expert, but I think the only solution, and I ask that you consider it

[1:10:40] in the near future, is a full length, two-mile center lane dedicated to left turns on

[1:10:49] road. Without that, we are asking for trouble. So I'll leave the traffic subject. What I really

[1:10:59] want to talk about is community and neighbors and neighborhoods. My husband and I moved here

[1:11:07] from New York almost 50 years ago. And I'm a little embarrassed to admit that for the first

[1:11:15] six months we lived here, we would look at each other and say, why are these people being so

[1:11:23] nice? What did they want? But after about six months we realized this is the nicest, kindest,

[1:11:36] most neighborly place we had ever lived. We moved into the house closest to the realtor who

[1:11:45] showed us around because he had us to a neighborhood barbecue where we got to meet all the neighbors

[1:11:50] and we were welcomed with open arms.

[1:11:54] And the group that's here tonight from Hampton Place Court includes our newest resident

[1:12:00] of eight months because he also has been welcomed.

[1:12:04] But lots of the people on the street like May have lived there 23 years.

[1:12:09] And my main objection, I'm sure these villas will be gorgeous.

[1:12:17] But I want people who are going to invest in our community.

[1:12:23] I want people who attend the festivals and join the churches and become youth sport coaches and go to the concerts.

[1:12:39] and attend the City Hall hearings and get involved in the neighborhood.

[1:12:46] And I'm sorry people who have long term one year leases don't necessarily do that.

[1:12:54] At the last meeting Mayor Dan said 25% of the housing units in St. Charles are rentals.

[1:13:01] Great, I'll bet there's some nice ones too.

[1:13:04] I don't think building 50 units of rentals next to all of these individual homes is the right plan.

[1:13:23] Lastly, I want to thank you for the time and dedication you put into being city council members.

[1:13:31] I know you take a lot of crap, but we appreciate your time and your effort, and I'll bet

[1:13:39] many of you have lived here most of your lives, and I'll bet you live in owner occupied

[1:13:47] neighborhoods, and that's what makes St. Charles a fabulous community.

[1:13:55] Please keep it.

[1:13:57] Thank you.

[1:14:03] There's speakers.

[1:14:06] Well, gosh,

[1:14:09] you're on 17.

[1:14:10] You're the next one.

[1:14:11] All right.

[1:14:11] I got you.

[1:14:13] Thank you.

[1:14:14] I was about to say, oh my gosh.

[1:14:17] Questions of all from council?

[1:14:22] Well, if there's somebody else who wants to speak first.

[1:14:24] Let them go.

[1:14:24] I'll go last.

[1:14:25] Did you?

[1:14:26] I had a question for staff.

[1:14:29] Maybe for Mr. Boyer.

[1:14:31] I want to make sure that, you know, it's clear.

[1:14:35] Item C, 2026-14, is to rezone a county property into a city zoning.

[1:14:41] That's correct.

[1:14:42] And I would make it match the other two properties that are already zoned in the city.

[1:14:46] That's correct.

[1:14:48] And then item D, 2026-15, is to change all three of those properties to R3A.

[1:14:55] That's correct.

[1:14:56] And I see the memo very well explained why R3A was choking.

[1:15:00] So I appreciate your staff members sending that out. Ms. Lureso sent it out very well.

[1:15:04] Put, thank you for that. What else is could go in R3A rather than, you know, what uses can go in R3A?

[1:15:14] Typical, the most common use that we see with R3A. Obviously, we do see some town home developments with R3A.

[1:15:21] I'm sorry. Thank you. Usually my voice carries, but not right now.

[1:15:26] So, R3A typically what we see is that's probably the predominant use for apartment buildings.

[1:15:32] Now, it does have some townhome developments within the city, but the predominant land use for R3A is apartments.

[1:15:39] And then the third item is to take that R3A, which establishes the underlying zoning and make it a PDR, correct?

[1:15:47] That's correct.

[1:15:48] Thank you.

[1:15:49] That's all right.

[1:15:50] Mr. Brewing.

[1:15:53] I don't think I can compete with the motion that Lady just spoke with about living in St. Charles.

[1:16:01] That was very good.

[1:16:06] Weeks ago about the world of honor occupied luxury villas that I'm part of where I live.

[1:16:15] But tonight I want to talk a little bit about the personal side of living in an honor occupied villa if I could just for a minute.

[1:16:23] I call it POC, the power of caring.

[1:16:30] I think villa owners care.

[1:16:34] I live in a community that they care.

[1:16:36] My neighbors care.

[1:16:38] If you leave town for three days or three months, you tell your neighbor.

[1:16:42] And they keep an eye on your place.

[1:16:45] If the snow gets pushed in front of your mailbox,

[1:16:47] the neighbor comes out and cleans it off.

[1:16:50] So you can get to your mailbox.

[1:16:52] My bride and her friends down the street, they all plant flowers and ferns and it drives me crazy,

[1:16:58] but there's flowers and stuff all up and down the street because they care.

[1:17:03] And I think that's important.

[1:17:04] That's an important part of honor-occupied properties is the caring part, and that's what I see in

[1:17:10] Villas.

[1:17:11] I would say to you this, I would say this to you also, in my community, we three years

[1:17:16] to go amended our covenants and restrictions to prohibit rental.

[1:17:22] And the same thing is occurring at the Hamptons during the process of changing theirs.

[1:17:27] Carleton manners in the process of changing theirs, folks, there's a reason they changed

[1:17:33] and prohibit rental.

[1:17:35] There's a reason for that.

[1:17:36] If you ask for the, I think if you ask for the typical profile of a renter today, I think

[1:17:42] What I saw was 70% or under the age of 35, most of them were single, and they don't have children.

[1:17:52] I guess to go into a 3,000 or 4,000 month rent, you better have three or four of your buddies in there, do it with four that kind of rent.

[1:18:00] Most of the renters that the profile says are 60% or so have a pet or pets, so that's part of the rental difference.

[1:18:10] but owner occupied, I think, is where we need to focus on our seniors going into this project.

[1:18:17] That probably doesn't make sense.

[1:18:19] Three or four thousand.

[1:18:20] That's the total amount of their social security check, so that would have no value to them.

[1:18:25] So I want to make this recommendation to you, that I think Stone Moss needs to understand

[1:18:31] that we are a community of people who care for each other, and on that basis, this project

[1:18:39] really doesn't deserve daylight, something

[1:18:50] from Justin Faust if I could, and I'm going

[1:18:54] to make this funky little quote. And that is, like a good neighbor, a good neighbor is

[1:19:04] there. I mean, that's just the way it is. Good neighbors are there in bill of communities.

[1:19:09] So I asked my fellow members on the console to take stone moss and put it in the post file because this is not really what we need on this property on on media.

[1:19:29] I drove to Hampton Place.

[1:19:33] I made a left turn into there and went to bed because it was quarter after six.

[1:19:38] I'm going to try to leave there. I tried to make a left turn coming back out of there and that was major tricky.

[1:19:42] And the only way I got out of there was because I waited for the light to change up on the top of the hill.

[1:19:48] That what's it changed?

[1:19:49] I had enough time for me to get out.

[1:19:50] Otherwise, you're the better of a V8 or a hot car to make that left turn onto Mickey when the traffic is heavy duty.

[1:19:59] Because there's not a lot of space.

[1:20:01] Thank you for listening.

[1:20:10] I just want to thank everybody who has come to our due process hearings.

[1:20:16] It's important to hear from all sides as a council and each hearing we learned something different or we hear something different.

[1:20:27] I'm a little different than my other council members and I don't decide until it's time to actually vote.

[1:20:34] And that's because I like to get all the information.

[1:20:38] I do want to say there's some things that have been brought up at this hearing and I want

[1:20:43] to make it clear, something that was said that wasn't true and I don't want rumors going

[1:20:50] around the ward or the city, it was mentioned that there's 200 apartments that are going

[1:20:56] at the corner of the old highway 94 and Newgate that is not true.

[1:21:01] That is Hawthorne Grove that is being built there which is 34 town homes on our occupied.

[1:21:06] So, I just want to squash that, maybe the person who spoke wasn't aware and was confused

[1:21:15] with what was going coming at Lindbrook, Lindbrook in 1994.

[1:21:21] That is an apartment complex that is being proposed.

[1:21:25] But the 34 town homes called Hawthorne Grove at Old Highway 94 across from the VFW, those

[1:21:32] are town homes, those are not 200 apartments.

[1:21:35] So I just wanted to set that straight. I don't need everybody going around thinking that we've got to 100 apartments coming on that corner

[1:21:42] Let me see what else this

[1:21:50] I appreciate the developer and the staff sitting down and looking at the options of the

[1:21:58] Proposed new entrants

[1:22:00] I do think that it will help with visibility to move that

[1:22:05] If this goes through,

[1:22:10] so, because that is a change to exhibit be, when it's time for us to, after we close the public hearing and we vote, we will have to make an amendment to that bill to adopt that change going forward.

[1:22:24] And I want to let everybody know that if that amendment passes, our code, our city code,

[1:22:34] section 1 1009O, states that we need to table the bell for one week.

[1:22:40] So I will be proposing that amendment to be adopted when it's time for a bill's for final,

[1:22:47] And if it does pass, then I will be voting to table that bill to bring forward at our first regular session in September, along with the other three bills, so that they're all voted on consistently.

[1:23:04] But number one, I have to make sure that the amendment changes.

[1:23:07] So just want to let you know that's what's going on there.

[1:23:10] Secondly, I know a lot of you don't come to these meetings very often, so you're not familiar with the process.

[1:23:15] What's going to happen next is we have to close the public hearing on this item.

[1:23:21] We are not voting on this item.

[1:23:23] We are closing the public hearing, meaning we won't take any more testimony from the public

[1:23:29] or the developer.

[1:23:31] So we will do that first once that closes, then we move on to vote at those for final.

[1:23:39] So if there's nothing else that anybody wants to say, I'm going to close the public hearing

[1:23:45] on this one item.

[1:23:49] Again, I thank you all for coming and participating

[1:23:51] and does mean a lot to us.

[1:23:55] Okay, so I moved to include the public hearing

[1:23:57] to receive the staff report

[1:23:59] and to have the appropriate legislation

[1:24:02] presented for council consideration.

[1:24:06] Motion in a second, roll call, Bart Haberstrow.

[1:24:10] Mark Hollander.

[1:24:11] abstain.

[1:24:13] Steve Hollander.

[1:24:13] All right.

[1:24:14] Chris Kyle.

[1:24:15] All right.

[1:24:16] Denise Mitchell.

[1:24:17] I, Vince Ratchford, Tom Bruning, Justin Faust, Michael Galba, Brian Gold.

[1:24:24] Okay.

[1:24:25] That passes.

[1:24:27] The next public hearing is D Case Number Z-2026-15, Larsen Development LLC, an application

[1:24:35] to rezone an 8.39 acre, more or less, tract of land located at 17.04, 17.10 and 17.12

[1:24:44] new key road from R-1E single family residential district to R-3A, multiple family residential

[1:24:51] district.

[1:24:52] The subject property is located in Ward 5, references council bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 4 with

[1:24:58] the supplemental RCA attached.

[1:25:01] As indicated by the clerk, this is the next step in that same project that we've been talking

[1:25:05] about with the stone moss.

[1:25:06] So the first project we were talking about established minute of the initial zoning, matching

[1:25:10] what the county has, this next one would be coming into the zoning that would establish the

[1:25:15] densities and the land uses available within the PD district, which is the next public

[1:25:21] hearing.

[1:25:22] As indicated by the developer, and also made mentioned by one of the council members, there

[1:25:25] was a memo provided to you from one of my staff members, kind of explaining the difference between

[1:25:29] the R1, the R2, and the R3, and why the R3 was chosen.

[1:25:34] Essentially, it is the minimum zoning needed to meet the applicants requirement for the attached

[1:25:39] Townhomes each on their own single family lots sharing a wall that is not possible in R2 and it is not possible in R1

[1:25:47] So that memo was provided for you

[1:25:49] Again, this is just the next step in this requirement going to the R3

[1:25:54] I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have on this item

[1:25:58] Questions for staff?

[1:26:03] Seeing none

[1:26:04] I have one speaker card. This is for Keith Hine and his here speaking relative to case number 7D on the agenda

[1:26:20] Thank you very much.

[1:26:21] It's going to be hard if a lot of those last two speakers, but I'll try.

[1:26:25] I'm a near-life long resident of the city of St. Charles.

[1:26:28] My parents moved to sunny Brookestates, when I was an infant, more years ago than I

[1:26:33] cared it would emit, and I've lived here ever since, except for about 14 years, like Mr.

[1:26:37] Gould.

[1:26:38] I traveled around as a member of the year for us.

[1:26:41] I live now in spring, middle of the states, on mid-year road, and I have some of the

[1:26:47] Some of the concerns with those speakers were perhaps a different perspective.

[1:26:50] I work part-time a couple of days a week, so on rush hour I'm waiting to turn left

[1:26:55] to go in on my subdivision and I got a great view of those nice little signs that you

[1:27:00] put up with the radar to tell people when they should slow it down.

[1:27:04] They flash red when people do 44 and a 40 zone and when I'm sitting waiting to turn left

[1:27:10] it's just constantly flashing red.

[1:27:12] My wife and I have a calm little game where I say, how fast did people go today?

[1:27:19] And there are constantly 45 to 50, so far the records 55 that I've noticed.

[1:27:26] That combined with the limited sightlines makes it very dangerous and additional traffic

[1:27:31] of a high-density development like the one proposed we want to make it worse.

[1:27:36] Just two days ago, I was driving northbound on Miyuki to go to my son's house, and I came upon a young woman whose car had stalled in the right-hand lane.

[1:27:47] I was going at the speed limit, and it was a challenge to stop before hitting her due to the limited sight distance.

[1:27:56] Multiply this by 1,000 cars in Russia are an additional traffic that high density would be a challenge.

[1:28:04] Second, I would also think a different perspective, no one's mentioned tonight, I've got

[1:28:10] a lot of friends with younger children trying to sort out and move into homes.

[1:28:15] And as I mentioned, Mr. Booning earlier, he's a lot of where there's a big shortage

[1:28:18] of affordable, single-family, owner-occupied housing.

[1:28:23] This is an opportunity but land in St. Charles to do just that.

[1:28:27] And unfortunately, this proposed development doesn't meet those criteria.

[1:28:33] The presentation talks about high-end rentals.

[1:28:37] Larson's going to develop it and leave, and they won't have a long-term interest in the renters once they've made the development.

[1:28:44] And instead, I think it's a unique opportunity to build some affordable single family owner occupied homes to help out our community in our area.

[1:28:55] One final thought, I drive there quite a bit during rush hour, one final point about the speed.

[1:29:02] In a previous lifetime, I've routinely flew 500 miles an hour at 300 feet above the ground,

[1:29:08] on your taxpayer dollars.

[1:29:09] So thank you for that.

[1:29:11] But I get nervous driving on you during rush hour, trying to make left turns,

[1:29:17] and even just navigating from 364 to Muggy,

[1:29:20] because I don't know what other drivers are doing,

[1:29:22] or how much they're paying attention as other speaker mentions so adequately.

[1:29:28] Another outlet from this development of a lot of cars every day

[1:29:32] would only exacerbate that problem.

[1:29:34] I understand the owner was to maximize their money from the sale

[1:29:38] and the developer wants to build more units

[1:29:41] again to maximize profits.

[1:29:43] But I would like to think that we need to look for the great

[1:29:45] good for all of St. Charles and a smaller number of affordable, single-family homes.

[1:29:51] I think is where I'd answer and I hope you seriously consider that option.

[1:29:58] Thanks for your time.

[1:30:01] I have no further speakers.

[1:30:07] Any other questions from Council? Miss visual? Again, we are just closing the public hearing on this, everyone.

[1:30:16] I move to conclude the public hearing to receive the staff report and to have the appropriate legislation presented for council consideration.

[1:30:23] Second.

[1:30:25] Roll, call Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander, Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell, I, Vince

[1:30:33] Ratchford, Tom Brooney, Justin Fowse, Michael Galba, Brian Gold, Bart Haberstrow,

[1:30:40] that passes.

[1:30:43] The next public hearing is case number Z-2026-16, Larsen Development LLC, an application

[1:30:49] to rezone an 8.39 acre more or less,

[1:30:53] tract of land located at 17.04, 17.10,

[1:30:56] and 17.12 Mughi Road from R-3A,

[1:30:59] multiple family residential district,

[1:31:02] to PD-R planned development residential district,

[1:31:05] for a proposed 50 unit attached townhome development.

[1:31:09] The subject property is located in Ward 5,

[1:31:11] references council bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 5,

[1:31:14] on your agenda, which had a supplemental RCA attached.

[1:31:16] So, this is the culminating bill or zoning for the proposed development before you the

[1:31:21] stone moss.

[1:31:22] This is the go from the R1E of initial zoning, the R3 to set up density and land uses

[1:31:29] then eventually to the planned development residential to finally establish their full plan

[1:31:35] which you have before you tonight for their attached townhomes.

[1:31:39] Revised drawings were provided to you by the developer that showed the flip in the location

[1:31:45] more south for the drive entrance to be more on top of the hill to improve sight distance

[1:31:51] as far as any other information. We'd be more than happy to provide any additional

[1:31:55] clarification from the staff's standpoint. I'd be happy to answer any questions in

[1:31:59] addition to that. Questions from Council?

[1:32:07] Seeing none. Ms. Mitchell.

[1:32:09] And for the last time this is the last public hearing that we will be closing it right now.

[1:32:14] So, I moved to conclude the public hearing to receive the staff report and to have the appropriate legislation presented for council consideration.

[1:32:23] Okay.

[1:32:26] Roll call, Steve Hollander.

[1:32:28] All right.

[1:32:28] Chris Kyle.

[1:32:30] Denise Mitchell.

[1:32:31] I.

[1:32:31] Vince Frachford.

[1:32:32] Tom Brooney.

[1:32:33] Justin Faust.

[1:32:34] Michael Galba.

[1:32:36] Brian Gulz.

[1:32:37] Mark Haberstrow.

[1:32:38] I.

[1:32:38] Mark Hollander.

[1:32:39] I'm staying.

[1:32:44] Moving on to the consent agenda.

[1:32:47] Intertain Emotions for Consented saja. So moved

[1:32:56] roll call Chris Kyle Denise Mitchell. I Vince

[1:33:00] Ratchford. Tom Broening. Justin Faust. Michael Galba. Brian Gould. Hi. Hi. Thank you. Bart

[1:33:08] Haber Stroke. Mark Hollander. Steve Hollander. Hi. That passes. No items from move. Remove from

[1:33:17] You can send it, Jenna. Do we have any resolutions?

[1:33:21] No resolutions.

[1:33:23] Moving on to bills for final. Miss Mitchell?

[1:33:27] I'd like to make an amendment, so I moved to amend,

[1:33:31] amend bill 14125 to replace the original exhibit

[1:33:36] B with the revised exhibit B that appears in the agenda packet,

[1:33:40] and reflects the relocated southern access point on

[1:33:52] roll call on the amendment made by council member Mitchell, Denise Mitchell,

[1:33:57] I, Vince Ratchford, Tom Broening, Justin Fauss, Michael Galba, Brian Gould,

[1:34:04] Bart Haber Strow, Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander, and Chris Kyle.

[1:34:10] Okay, that motion to amend is approved.

[1:34:15] Mr. Hollander, I'd like to request a separate vote on council bill 14126.

[1:34:34] And because of that amendment passing, I'm going to ask that we move the vote on that bill based on our ordinances to the 91 meeting and I'm going to ask that we move the other three bills with it so that we're voting on all four bills at the same time.

[1:34:54] So, I move to postpone final consideration of those 1, 4, 1, 2, 2, 1, 4, 1, 2, 3, 1,

[1:35:02] 1, 2, 4, and 1, 4, 1, 2, 5 to the September 1, 2020, 6 meeting.

[1:35:09] Second.

[1:35:16] All right.

[1:35:18] So, just so I'm clear, I'll repeat that Ms. Mitchell, Council Member Mitchell is making a motion

[1:35:23] to table council bill 1, 412, 2, 1, 412, 1, 2, 3, 1, 4, 1, 2, 4, and 1, 4, 1, 2, 5,

[1:35:30] to the September 1 regular city council meeting.

[1:35:34] That would be the final vote that day.

[1:35:36] Yes, ma'am.

[1:35:37] And Vince Ratchford is the second.

[1:35:39] OK.

[1:35:39] Thank you.

[1:35:40] Role called Vince Ratchford.

[1:35:41] Hi.

[1:35:42] Tom Brooney.

[1:35:43] A post.

[1:35:45] OK.

[1:35:46] Justin Faust.

[1:35:47] Hi.

[1:35:48] Michael Galba.

[1:35:49] Hi.

[1:35:49] Brian Gold.

[1:35:50] All right.

[1:35:51] Bart Haber Stro, Mark Collender.

[1:35:53] I'm staying.

[1:35:55] Steve Collender.

[1:35:56] Chris Kyle.

[1:35:57] And Denise Mitchell.

[1:35:59] Okay.

[1:35:59] That passes.

[1:35:59] Those bills will be on the September 1 agenda.

[1:36:06] On then to regular bills for final passage.

[1:36:09] Madam Clerk.

[1:36:12] All right.

[1:36:13] So, I'll read the remainder.

[1:36:17] I'll be able to get one held on separate, right?

[1:36:19] What's that?

[1:36:19] Yes.

[1:36:21] Those four bills will be table.

[1:36:22] I won't read those.

[1:36:23] And I will pull his out for a separate vote.

[1:36:26] Yeah, thank you.

[1:36:27] I'll read the remaining.

[1:36:28] So right now we're going to read bill 1, 4, 1, 1, 1.

[1:36:31] And ordinance amending ordinance number 25,

[1:36:34] dash 086 by amending certain revenue,

[1:36:36] expenditure, and fund balance accounts for the budget

[1:36:39] for the fiscal year 2026, budget amendment number 10,

[1:36:42] sponsor, Bart Haber Stro, bill 1, 4, 1, 1, 2.

[1:36:45] And ordinance amending section 1, 2, 5, 0.2, 4, 0.

[1:36:49] Related to the composition of the greater St. Charles

[1:36:52] Convention and Visitors Commission by increasing its membership by one commissioner.

[1:36:56] Sponsor is Mark Hollander. Bill 1, 4113, an ordinance amending chapter 400, the zoning

[1:37:02] code of the code of ordinances, specifically sections 400, 2220, and 400, 2230.

[1:37:10] To permit recreational vehicle storage within the C2 general route of the business district.

[1:37:15] Sponsor's Steve Hollander. Bill 1, 4114, an ordinance approving the record

[1:37:19] It is a 1735 district, a subdivision of the City of St. Charles Missouri, sponsored

[1:37:25] as Venus Ratchford. Bill 1415, in order to prove the record

[1:37:29] plat for the new town at St. Charles Platt 17-A, a subdivision of the city of St. Charles

[1:37:35] Missouri, sponsored as Michael Galba. Bill 1416, an ordinance approving the record

[1:37:40] plat for the new town at St. Charles Platt 17-B, a subdivision of the city of St. Charles

[1:37:46] in Missouri, Sponsor, Michael Galba, the 14117, an ordinance annexing certain adjacent

[1:37:52] contiguous land into the city of St. Charles, Missouri, and assigning the land to a designated

[1:37:56] ward of the city being petitioned for annexation by 1020 metal lane LLC of approximately

[1:38:02] 0.35 acres more or less of land known as 1020 metal lane.

[1:38:07] The sponsor is Justin Faust, the 14118, an ordinance rezoning to St. Charles city zoning district

[1:38:14] R-1E, single-family residential district, from St. Charles County zoning district, R-1E,

[1:38:20] single-family residential district, a 0.35 acre, more or less, tracked of land, located

[1:38:26] at 1020 metal lanes.

[1:38:28] Sponsor is just in fast.

[1:38:31] The 114-127, an ordinance rezoning to St. Charles City zoning district, PD-C, plan development

[1:38:38] commercial from St. Charles City Zoning District, C-2 General Business District, a tract of land

[1:38:44] of an approximate 5.85 acres overall, more or less, known as 936-938-940 and 948-HimSatthroad,

[1:38:54] and approving the preliminary development plan for the HimSat Business Park in connection

[1:38:58] therewith, the sponsor is Tom Bruning, the 14128, an ordinance amending section 245.020 of

[1:39:07] the code of ordinances related to the permissible hours

[1:39:10] for the collection of garbage.

[1:39:12] The sponsor is Mark Hollander,

[1:39:14] roll call Tom Brunning.

[1:39:16] All right.

[1:39:16] Just in Faust, Michael Galba, Brian Gold,

[1:39:20] Bart Haberstrom, Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander,

[1:39:24] Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell, and Vince Ratchford.

[1:39:29] All right.

[1:39:32] Next is Council the 14126, an ordinance authorizing

[1:39:36] the acquisition of right away and easements

[1:39:38] required for the first capital drive improvements from this street to King's Highway Street

[1:39:43] Project by purchase donation or imminent domain and authorizing and providing for continuing

[1:39:49] authority to execute all documents necessary for the acquisition of said right of way and

[1:39:54] or easements.

[1:39:56] The sponsor, Mark Hollander, role call Justin Faust, Michael Galba, Brian Gould, Bart Haberstrom,

[1:40:03] Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander, Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell,

[1:40:09] All right.

[1:40:12] Thanks.

[1:40:12] That one passes.

[1:40:16] Moving to bills for introduction.

[1:40:20] Bills for introduction.

[1:40:21] Bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 9.

[1:40:23] An ordinance authorizing an intergovernmental memorandum of understanding between the city

[1:40:27] of St. Charles, Missouri on behalf of the Police Department and the Department of

[1:40:31] War, office of Inspector General Defense Criminal Investigative Services, D.C.

[1:40:35] I.S. for purposes of allowing for the stores of D.C.I.S. weapons and ammunition within the

[1:40:41] police department facility in a secure and monitored space.

[1:40:45] The sponsors are Chris Kyle, Mark Hollinger, Vince Ratchford, Tom Broening, Denise

[1:40:49] Mitchell, Justin Faust, Brian Gold, Michael Galba, Bart Haverstrow, and Steve Hollinger.

[1:40:56] Bill 14130, an ordinance authorizing a state transit assistance grant agreement between the Missouri

[1:41:02] Highway and Transportation Commission and the City of St. Charles Missouri for a receipt

[1:41:07] of state transportation funds in the amount of 16,465 dollars in 82 cents during the period

[1:41:14] of July 1, 2026 through June 30, 2027. The sponsor is Mark Hollander. Bill 1431, an ordinance

[1:41:23] approving the record platform for the new town at St. Charles Platt 8A, a subdivision of the

[1:41:32] 1, 4, 1, 3, 2, an ordinance declaring real property, located on South River Road of approximately

[1:41:38] 11.0 acres of land more or less, at the River Point Development as surplus property,

[1:41:44] authorizing disposal by sale to Benton Home Builders Incorporated for the sale price of

[1:41:48] 1,412,136, and granting continuing authority to execute documents necessary to carry out the

[1:41:57] intent of this ordinance. This sponsor is Vince Ratchford.

[1:42:01] No emergency ordinances?

[1:42:04] No.

[1:42:05] No movement on table bills, any items for council action.

[1:42:09] And do we have any reason to go into closed session tonight?

[1:42:12] Yes, sir.

[1:42:14] Madam Clerk.

[1:42:16] Okay.

[1:42:20] We need a motion to go into closed session, relative to legal actions, causes of action or litigation,

[1:42:26] involving a public governmental body and any confidential or privileged communications

[1:42:29] between a public governmental body and its attorneys, RSMO-610-O211, leasing purchase or sale

[1:42:37] of real estate, where public knowledge of the transaction might adversely affect the legal

[1:42:41] consideration there for RSMO-610-O212, hiring, firing, disciplining, or promoting a particular

[1:42:48] employees when information relating to the performance or merit of individual employees is discussed

[1:42:52] recorded RSMO 610213 and sealed bids and related documents until the bids are open and sealed

[1:43:02] proposals and related documents or any documents related to a negotiated contract until

[1:43:07] a contract is executed or all proposals are rejected RSMO 61002112.

[1:43:14] It's so moved.

[1:43:16] It's Michael Galba's second roll call.

[1:43:21] Hi.

[1:43:22] Old.

[1:43:23] Bart Haber Stro.

[1:43:26] Bart.

[1:43:27] I thank you.

[1:43:28] Mark Hollander.

[1:43:29] Hi.

[1:43:30] Steve Hollander.

[1:43:31] Chris Kyle.

[1:43:32] Denise Mitchell.

[1:43:33] Vince Ratchford.

[1:43:34] Tom Brooney.

[1:43:35] Hi.

[1:43:36] And Justin Faust.

City Council Regular Meeting, August 18, 2026

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