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Good afternoon.
[0:03]
This is the Solid
waste subcommittee.
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It is Tuesday, August 18th
at 430, and we will call this
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meeting to order.
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Um, we have several meetings
members who will join us.
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Next we will
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get started just doing
make good use of our time.
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So I want to start with
recognizing Matt Purvis, um,
[0:25]
council liaison from the solid
waste from the National Waste
[0:29]
Services to talk about the key
performance Indicators review.
[0:32]
Absolutely. Yes.
[0:33]
So Matt Purvis on the council
liaison for the Department of
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Waste Services or
Natural Waste Services.
[0:38]
Uh, and so as a baseline, last
month when I was here, uh, our
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service rate for all three of
our trash haulers, both us and
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our two contractors
combined, was 99.72%.
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Our service rate for recycling,
which is all us, is 99.76%.
[0:57]
And then from June 1st to July
21st, we had an average daily
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average of 102 trash misses
across all three of our trash
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haulers and 35 recycling
misses, which just in in
[1:12]
context is 0.28% of our daily
trash stops and 0.24% of our
[1:17]
daily recycling stops.
[1:19]
And then moving forward now,
from July until now, our
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service rate for all three
[1:24]
trash haulers
combined was 99.76%,
[1:28]
and our service rate
for recycling is 99.74%.
[1:33]
And from July 1st to now, we've
had a daily average of 80 trash
[1:36]
misses across all three trash
[1:37]
haulers and 35 recycling misses.
[1:40]
So again, 0.22% of our daily
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trash and 0.24% of
our daily recycling.
[1:46]
So, uh, very stable
if not improving.
[1:50]
And can you talk about how you,
when you were made aware of
[1:53]
those misses, how quick
the, the, um, the remedy.
[1:58]
The turnaround time.
[1:59]
So our goal is always to hit
[2:01]
under three days
turnaround time.
[2:04]
Um, we know our both of our
contractors are running a
[2:06]
little above that right now,
and ours is somewhere in the
[2:09]
middle of two two
point such days.
[2:13]
So our turnaround times are our
turnaround times where we need
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we need them to be.
[2:17]
We're still working to get
our contractors there as well.
[2:20]
Great. Any any
comments on those KPIs?
[2:23]
Other.
[2:23]
I was going to say
regarding recycling as well.
[2:26]
Um, we are in the process of
further separating, separating
[2:29]
out our recycling commodities
at our convenience centers and
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Drop-Off sites.
[2:34]
So East has been done already
with the other convenience
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centers to come.
[2:38]
As we get we're looking for
[2:40]
more replacement
boxes and and signage.
[2:43]
And so we're awaiting
additional signage and box
[2:45]
placement box placements.
[2:46]
So Omaha and Anderson, we're
looking to be in place with
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those by September 1st and
is out by September 8th.
[2:53]
And talk about what that
does in terms of what we get.
[2:56]
Absolutely. So what we are
doing in effect, is right now
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at all those sites, we have
one box that has plastics, tin,
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metal or like tins and other
metals and aluminum cans.
[3:06]
All of those are in
one box right now.
[3:08]
Those essentially go to the
exact same place that our
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curbside mixed goes.
[3:13]
So it's a lower value.
[3:14]
It's just a lower separation.
[3:16]
What we're doing and what we've
done at East already is we have
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a box for plastics, a box for
aluminum cans and a box for
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other metals, like other tins
and other things like that.
[3:28]
What that does, in effect,
is those commodities split by
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themselves are a
much higher value.
[3:34]
Aluminum itself is
nearly a dollar a pound.
[3:38]
So it is very valued to sell,
very valuable to sell back that
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we are in the way that we've
been doing it, diluting that
[3:44]
value incidentally.
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So this will effectively allow
us to not only directly market
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those materials coming from our
drop off sites, but market them
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at a much higher cost.
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Excellent. Good.
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Financial stewardship.
[3:58]
Other comments or
thoughts for that?
[4:01]
Um. Can we?
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I would love for this community
to this committee to have an
[4:08]
opportunity to see how some of
this stuff actually happens.
[4:11]
And I guess, let me back up one
more thing on the on the data.
[4:15]
Are we now able to have a
report that I can find on the
[4:19]
National Waste Services site
that says, we got this many
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pounds of this and it's going
[4:26]
somewhere to be turned
into new carpet.
[4:29]
We we can we can certainly
get those destinations.
[4:31]
The, the active rolling tonnage
totals will be a little bit
[4:35]
harder to get.
[4:36]
We can actually update our
upstate, update our website
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with the destinations in
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products that they
already are getting.
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We can work towards having
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estimates of ten
inches or something.
[4:47]
I think that's and I was going
to say that full data would be
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we would make available and uh,
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collect it for the
quarterly report.
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We're required as counsel.
[4:56]
Okay. That's terrific.
[4:58]
And that quarterly report will
have like x amount of tons X
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amount of revenue generated.
[5:05]
Or is there anything that shows
like here's how much you know
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this recycling has earned.
[5:11]
Let's practice.
[5:12]
We can do that.
[5:12]
We have I don't think we've
had that in previous quarterly
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because we we've been very
limited in the amount of data
[5:18]
we were able to get from who
was managing our material.
[5:21]
But we can we can do that as.
[5:23]
Well, because I think that'd
be great for, you know, John
[5:27]
Public to go online and see who
may be skeptical about costs
[5:33]
and Rois to go back and see.
[5:35]
All right.
[5:36]
So this amount of aluminum
has generated this amount of
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revenue to the city.
[5:42]
Certainly doing to you know,
the goal would be to get this
[5:44]
to ultimately pay for itself.
[5:46]
Could go, um,
anything else on KPIs.
[5:49]
So any chance we
can get a tour or.
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Something, certainly, so we can.
[5:53]
Obviously, those relationships
are still pretty new with the
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with these in-town
collection sites, but we can.
[6:00]
We can certainly work on
putting that together.
[6:01]
They've expressed in the past
willingness to do something
[6:05]
like that.
[6:05]
So it's a matter of getting it
scheduled and figuring it out.
[6:07]
But we can we can work on that.
[6:08]
Great. Is that.
[6:09]
I mean, is that
if we set that up.
[6:11]
Is that something
people could do?
[6:12]
Yeah. Early in the
morning, later in the day.
[6:14]
Is there a specific time
that's better or worse?
[6:16]
Anybody got opinions
on that for me?
[6:18]
Afternoons tend to be better,
but then Fridays I'm usually
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free all day.
[6:23]
So.
[6:24]
Any other opinions?
[6:25]
I'll figure.
[6:25]
It out.
[6:26]
Okay? Yeah.
[6:26]
Just send me dates and
I'll try to work it out.
[6:29]
Yeah.
[6:30]
Um, every day is
different, unfortunately.
[6:32]
Yeah. Same with the
of the schedule for.
[6:35]
Fortunately, I guess.
[6:36]
Um, if this line of work.
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We can't really plan
out more than a week.
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Um, we can do a.
[6:40]
Few.
[6:40]
Afternoons in general are
[6:42]
better than mornings
and just mornings.
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Mornings work too.
[6:45]
We can make more contacts.
[6:47]
The two kind of options would
either be the person, the
[6:51]
company that's getting our
paper and cardboard right now,
[6:53]
which is WestRock, they're in
North Nashville off of 19th
[6:56]
19th Avenue North, I think,
uh, or, uh, who's getting our
[7:00]
glass, which is recycling
services in Old Hickory.
[7:03]
So nothing's too far.
[7:04]
Yeah. And those are both
really interesting to see.
[7:07]
Awesome. Okay.
[7:08]
Anything else on first hand?
[7:11]
Firsthand experience
update on illegal dumps?
[7:15]
Yes. So, uh, my my team
actually was out, uh, sitting
[7:20]
on illegal dumps today.
[7:21]
Uh, and I had done an
investigation of a list of five
[7:24]
addresses I had had a week or
two ago or something like that.
[7:29]
Um, the biggest tool Waste
Services has in trying to help
[7:33]
that issue would be our
private collection permits.
[7:35]
Um, when we started the year,
we had 58 permitted haulers.
[7:40]
Uh, people that haul trash
within the within the bounds of
[7:43]
Davis County.
[7:44]
Uh, we had done a lot of
investigating and a lot of kind
[7:47]
of compiling old lists that
were historical and, uh,
[7:50]
different databases.
[7:51]
And we came up with ultimately
we think there's over 200 non
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permitted haulers out there.
[7:56]
And so in late July, we sent
out a mailer, uh, to at least
[8:01]
250 of those telling them,
hey, this is metro code.
[8:05]
You need to here's the
process you need to follow.
[8:08]
You have 30 days before we
[8:09]
start really doing
more about it.
[8:11]
And so that 30 days is
coming up pretty soon.
[8:14]
And so we're going to be I'm
going to be on the phone.
[8:16]
I've been on the phone already.
[8:17]
We've heard from about 20 of
the ones we've sent out to um,
[8:20]
and another probably 15 of
those there's told us they're
[8:23]
they no longer operate
or things like that.
[8:25]
We're bought and sold.
[8:27]
Um, so we've made progress,
but pretty soon we'll be on the
[8:30]
phone all the time calling
these contacts to let them
[8:33]
know, uh, that we need we need
permits and need to know where
[8:37]
they're taking the materials.
[8:39]
And what they're picking.
[8:41]
Correct. Right.
[8:41]
So at that point, when we have
everybody permitted, we should
[8:45]
be getting monthly reports from
all every holler that operates
[8:48]
as to what they're picking up,
how much they're picking up or
[8:51]
what they're dumping, how much
they're dumping, and where
[8:53]
they're dumping.
[8:54]
Gotcha. So all of that should
go together to give us really
[8:58]
good data and be able to
[9:02]
more get those folks under
compliance when it comes to
[9:05]
their dumping wherever
they feel like.
[9:07]
Yeah.
[9:08]
That's that's fantastic.
[9:09]
Okay. That is that's progress.
[9:10]
Any thoughts or
comments on that one?
[9:12]
Help me.
[9:14]
The counselors that deal
with that, most are on other
[9:16]
committees, but we're trying
to solve that one for them.
[9:18]
Um, compost.
[9:20]
I'd love to hear both about
the the pilot, which I think is
[9:23]
just kind of ongoing.
[9:24]
And then is there.
[9:25]
Is there any update or can
we ask questions about the
[9:28]
continuation of the
school program that yes.
[9:33]
Curbside pilot is continuing?
[9:35]
Well, we we obviously
every time people move.
[9:37]
And so we always have a bit of
a fluctuating, uh, amount up to
[9:41]
that 750 households.
[9:43]
Have a waiting.
[9:44]
List. We do have a waiting list.
[9:45]
So whenever folks drop
off, we grab some more.
[9:48]
So I think last time we
checked, we were at 746 or
[9:50]
something like that.
[9:51]
But we have very good
participation, a lot of
[9:55]
frequent sell outs in
the in that program.
[9:57]
And then when it comes to the
Maps program, we are in direct
[10:00]
coordination with NPS
leadership to figure out how
[10:02]
best they want to move forward
as, as to moving from their
[10:08]
pilot program onward.
[10:09]
But I will say maybe the most
significant thing so far, other
[10:13]
than just conversations
inter-departmental, is we have
[10:15]
submitted an application to the
US Conference of Mayors for a
[10:20]
Healthy and Sustainable
[10:20]
Communities grant
that would be 275,000
[10:25]
to support three
full school clusters.
[10:28]
So that's 33 schools to have
composting service containers
[10:31]
with cafeterias, fridges,
compost bags and training money
[10:35]
as well, because it does take
a lot of on hand folks in the
[10:39]
cafeteria when when lunch is
happening for the first little
[10:42]
bit to make sure that everyone
knows what's happening But that
[10:45]
application has already
received kind of the initial
[10:49]
approval from the mayor.
[10:50]
So you all will be seeing
it in the next meeting.
[10:52]
Okay, great.
[10:53]
And when would when
would that award happen?
[10:55]
That I'm not sure.
[10:56]
I think it's a rolling, but
I'll have to figure it out.
[10:59]
Great. Thank you for doing that.
[11:00]
Question on the
composting pilot.
[11:03]
Has there been any discussions
while looking at, you know,
[11:06]
planning for next year's
budget, expanding and opening
[11:10]
more slots so that we can make
year over year, maybe increase
[11:13]
it maybe 2 or 3% a year so that
we can get more people involved
[11:18]
and not have a wait list.
[11:20]
So not long ago, we actually
had just finished an organic
[11:24]
feasibility study to see what
expansion of those programs
[11:28]
would look like.
[11:29]
The current model would be cost
prohibitive at scale, so we'd
[11:33]
have to figure out another way
[11:34]
to do it that would
be cheaper ultimately.
[11:36]
So that study dove into it.
[11:38]
I haven't seen it myself, but
we can we can generate some
[11:41]
sort of report coming from that.
[11:44]
I'd like to see some planning.
[11:46]
Like, why would look like
to eventually take this?
[11:49]
You know, at least cross USD,
but eventually countywide.
[11:55]
Yeah. Um, yeah.
[11:56]
If we could see either that
study or an executive summary
[11:59]
or something.
[11:59]
Yeah. We.
[12:00]
Yeah we did.
[12:01]
We recently finished that study.
[12:02]
We also finished the last of
our four season poll for our,
[12:06]
uh, uh, waste stream
categorization study.
[12:09]
And so we have a much better
idea now with that done, of
[12:12]
what exactly makes
up our stream.
[12:15]
Right. And so you obviously
want to take kind of big
[12:17]
potatoes before small potatoes.
[12:19]
What are the what are the
biggest chunks we can take.
[12:21]
We know that over over I
believe over 50% of our stream
[12:25]
is construction and
demolition material over 50%.
[12:29]
So a large percentage of what
is in our waste stream is,
[12:33]
according to the EPA, you know,
90% recyclable in many cases.
[12:36]
So, uh, that's a huge portion
[12:39]
that we're looking
to, to tackle.
[12:41]
Okay.
[12:41]
90.
[12:43]
EPA says that CND
materials roughly.
[12:46]
Most most materials
are 90% recycled.
[12:49]
Recyclable.
[12:53]
What is that?
[12:53]
What?
[12:55]
So the concrete can be.
[12:56]
Concrete, uh, drywall bracing.
[12:59]
Masonry. Not so concrete.
[13:01]
It's not totally
recyclable, but 90%.
[13:03]
Correct?
[13:03]
Correct.
[13:04]
Yeah. If you have them, if you
have a ton of C and D material,
[13:08]
you could you could assume that
the overall majority of that
[13:11]
could be recycled
into something.
[13:13]
Okay.
[13:13]
Got it.
[13:13]
What themes could.
[13:14]
Be. And that makes up.
[13:16]
We now know that that makes up
half or a little over half of
[13:20]
our total waste stream.
[13:21]
Got it.
[13:23]
Half the game is
90% mental, right?
[13:25]
The rest is.
[13:26]
This is the practical
application of that aphorism.
[13:30]
So we can do that.
[13:31]
Awesome. Um.
[13:32]
Anything else on compost?
[13:35]
Um. Up and down.
[13:36]
Solid waste region board.
[13:37]
Because both council member
Bradford and, uh, um, applied
[13:42]
to, to serve on that board and
[13:44]
we are being
nominated and have to.
[13:46]
Go down there.
[13:48]
Hopefully we said we would
appreciate your vote for that.
[13:50]
And that that enables us to
then talk with surrounding
[13:53]
counties and, you know, and
look at the, you know, the big
[13:55]
the big thing that drives
all of this is that there are
[13:58]
landfills in other counties
where we are taking our waste.
[14:01]
And those residents in those
[14:03]
counties are, um, are over that.
[14:06]
Um, and so anything we can do
to cut down that amount is a
[14:10]
good thing in the regional
solutions, I think enable
[14:13]
enable more things to happen.
[14:14]
So we look forward to that.
[14:15]
Also, the diversion ultimately
saves us money and saves the
[14:18]
the more the local landfills
fill up, the farther we have to
[14:21]
take it, the more expensive
it is to deal with it.
[14:22]
And so it is a long game, but
ultimately, the more diversion
[14:26]
we have, the more we'll save.
[14:27]
Yeah.
[14:28]
And everything we're doing
here in in Davidson County to
[14:31]
compost, see if there's a way
to turn around and monetize
[14:34]
that and say, all right,
instead of us sending our trash
[14:37]
to you now, you can send it to
us for a fee, and we'll $6 and
[14:42]
we'll fix it up.
[14:42]
That's what's in here.
[14:43]
There is a bill
about the yes fee.
[14:46]
Yes. So yes Bill 2026 15/18
on first reading of three.
[14:51]
It's a code.
[14:52]
It's a code change.
[14:53]
So ultimately we have two waste
generator fees in the code.
[14:58]
One is for solid waste, one is
[15:00]
for construction and
demolition material.
[15:02]
Basically the state allows us
to charge a tip fee where if
[15:05]
any waste is brought into the
[15:07]
county or comp
leaves the county.
[15:10]
Uh, that when it is tipped a
portion, a dollar per ton is
[15:15]
owed to the county to to us.
[15:17]
And so right now and the C and
D portion had been changed in
[15:21]
2018 most recently.
[15:23]
Uh, and so it does say if it
comes into the county or comes
[15:26]
from the county, you charge,
you are charged that amount.
[15:31]
What our current solid waste
portion says is there is a
[15:36]
loophole to where if somebody
from out of the county brings
[15:38]
it here, they technically
wouldn't have to pay it under
[15:40]
certain under current code.
[15:42]
So that's a that's.
[15:44]
Pretty.
[15:44]
Close to.
[15:44]
Closing that loophole.
[15:45]
So a that's against what
the CFD already says.
[15:47]
And then B I mean that would
that kind of incentivizes folks
[15:51]
bringing all their trash
into David's county.
[15:53]
So feel free to sign on to
1518 if you if you feel.
[15:56]
Like that's a would be a what
prohibits prohibits folks from
[16:01]
coming in.
[16:01]
But if they do come in now
we're generating revenue.
[16:04]
Right. Because it's
taken up limited space.
[16:07]
It's I think it's maybe
a 2 or 3 word change.
[16:09]
It was just a very small
loophole in the text.
[16:12]
I knew I couldn't find it
since I'm first reading.
[16:14]
Okay. Other items to
come before the board.
[16:17]
All right.
[16:18]
We'll wait to hear from you
[16:19]
about, um, getting
a tour set up.
[16:21]
If we need to send out a doodle
poll to see what time's work,
[16:24]
maybe we can look at 3 or 4
different times and try to get
[16:27]
that set up.
[16:27]
I think that would
be very educational.
[16:29]
Sounds good for that one.
[16:30]
Um. Anything else?
[16:32]
If not, we are adjourned
in the meeting.