[0:05] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:10] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:16] justice. >> Thank you.

[0:20] minutes from August 18, public to non-public conf.

[0:27] » I didn't I did not see any problems. [laughter]

[0:33] » My name was spelled incorrectly on one of the lines, but discussed, but that's

[0:38] okay. [clears throat] >> Apparently, it's not a problem. No,

[0:41] » it's not a problem. It's not a problem. I've heard in cold worse.

[0:45] [laughter]

[0:53] » [laughter]

[1:08] » I'll move to accept as second written with one correction. All

[1:13] in favor? All right.

[1:35] Uh, so we got a couple things to do. Okay.

[1:44] We have a revised estimate for revenue [clears throat] of the MS434. Were there

[1:47] any changes? Do you know? >> I do not.

[1:50] » Okay.

[2:08] » Not online. >> No.

[2:13] motion to accept that. >> So, it's revised.

[2:17] » Yes. >> Do we know what was revised?

[2:23] » When do when do we need to have it fin? I mean, can we table this till our next

[2:27] meeting if we don't know what

[2:42] It's not a huge problem if you want to wait till the next meeting.

[2:45] » I'm going to move that we just >> or suggest that we have it.

[2:50] » We have a water abatement for Carnegie Mountain Realy which is 66 and 169 Route

[2:56] 4. Uh it goes back to 2025 I believe 2024.

[3:03] um and was involving Don and Rebel. Uh and it was currently the number was

[3:12] granted back or was granted but never processed back then. So the totals for

[3:18] um 1,6735

[3:34] So we granted it previously but process.

[3:40] » I move to grant it again and process.

[3:45] » All in favor? I

[3:54] » while we're on the water department, um we have some updated I'm going to make

[3:58] copies of these for you guys to grab so you can review them. Caroline's put put

[4:03] together uh a new set of ordinance for the water. Um, last time it was done was

[4:16] so I'll make copies of both the old ordinance and the new and the

[4:18] recommendations.

[4:22] If you guys come by and pick them up and we can talk about this in the next

[4:27] meeting.

[4:49] Then we have the uh updated ordinances for Ken Cemetery that we voted on last

[4:55] meeting. These are the changes put in voted on it.

[5:23] All right. So, we have a bunch of nonprofits nonprofit organizations in

[5:28] town uh with the recommendations from the assessor on whether they should be

[5:32] granted tax abatements or not. Not abatements but tax um

[5:39] exempt status. Uh the first one up is Old North Church.

[5:45] Um this property is only used for one service per year and occasionally for

[5:48] wedding or funeral. We're looking at the New Hampshire Supreme Court cases.

[5:51] Nature Conservancy versus Nelson. The Supreme Court speaks these are the

[5:55] assesstors notes to the test of use. In that case, the Supreme Court said use by

[6:00] non-members four to five times a year does not meet the test required. In his

[6:03] opinion, it should be denied. And um we have granted it for the last several

[6:09] years even though he suggested we deny it. Uh it is a church. There's no

[6:14] plumbing in it. Um it's used for I believe two service two regular services

[6:19] a year which I think it's a um use of regular use even though it's

[6:25] minimal. We have any opinions on that?

[6:33] I'll move that we still grant it under the fact that it has the use hasn't

[6:39] changed from what we've been allowing. >> I'll second that. All in favor?

[6:45] » I I >> I'll

[6:48] um

[6:54] so we're denying his recommendation.

[6:59] his grant or deny denying his recommendation.

[7:02] » Yeah.

[7:13] Uh Mascoma Community Healthcare uh his recommendation are this organization has

[7:18] been make making payments in le of taxes for several years now. This is not a

[7:22] hospital but it does charitable work. is obligated for charitable work due to the

[7:25] payments received from the government via Medicaid and Medicare. He is

[7:29] recommending granting the exemption. Motion to accept or is denied. Any

[7:36] comments first? >> He's recommending.

[7:39] » He's recommending that we grant the exemption.

[7:42] » Move to grant. >> I'll second.

[7:44] » All in favor? by

[7:54] she's okay.

[8:04] This one is uh known as the forestry society on Potato Road. This

[8:08] organization owns vacant land in Kanan. applies annually for property tax exempt

[8:12] status under RSA 720 23. This property doesn't meet the criteria to the

[8:17] property tax exempt because it's vacant land. The applicable assessment is

[8:21] prescribed by RSA 79 recommending that you completely deny the request.

[8:27] » I move to deny. >> I'll second.

[8:29] » All in favor? I >> I

[8:33] think it's already in current use.

[8:40] » Uh next one is Cardan Mountain School. Multiple lots 62 alumni drive. The

[8:45] entire campus was reviewed with facilities director and has been

[8:48] prorated with buildings to coincide with what is exempt and what is taxable. The

[8:52] vacant land is not exempt and will be taxed accordingly. These recommended

[8:56] grant parade exemption. So just so people are clear, it's not the entire

[9:00] facility. It's just uh the uh living room uh that are t or the school actual

[9:08] classroom buildings only that are taxed are not taxed. So

[9:12] » yeah, place any of the room parts of the building for education purposes are

[9:16] exempt. >> We have a motion on that.

[9:20] » Move to accept his recommendation. All

[9:24] » in favor? All right.

[9:35] Uh the next one is West Canon 4 sponsoring group. Um route four. This is

[9:40] more complex set of this is a more complex set of circumstances due to the

[9:45] nature of the ownership in the PLA case from earlier this year. The owner is not

[9:49] the user. They were incorporated to support the local 4 group. They still

[9:53] believe they do not qualify for the that reason. However, this organization's

[9:57] once again failed to timely file their A12 paperwork and did not provide any

[10:01] reason to support for accident. In that case, he's recommending that we

[10:06] deny the exemption.

[10:12] I'll move to deny because they failed the file.

[10:17] » I'll second that. All >> in favor?

[10:26] It's not the first year for doing this.

[10:36] St. Mary's Catholic Church. This is continued to be a house of worship. He's

[10:40] recommending granting redemption. Move to fill his recommendations. I'll

[10:45] » second. All in favor? All right.

[10:51] [clears throat]

[10:57] » Next one is American Legion will Webster post 6055. I'm sorry. The organization

[11:03] has filed the necessary paperwork. He's recommending granted the exception.

[11:08] » Move to his recommendation, but it's not pointable.

[11:15] » Okay, I'll second it. All in favor? >> Thank you.

[11:30] Mount Carician Game Club Ballpark Road. This organization is club that is not

[11:34] open to the public. Nor are their meetings open to the attend open to be

[11:38] attended by the public. Attendance is by invitation only if not a member. They do

[11:42] not allow other groups to use the facility at the discussion the discret

[11:46] they do allow other groups to use the facility at the discretion of the club's

[11:49] board of directors. This property does not benefit the general public and their

[11:53] mission doesn't appear to be public. The property is far has far more acreage

[11:57] than needed for the mission. He's recommending that we deny the Texas

[12:02] status.

[12:06] I thought that they updated their bylaws because we had conversations with them

[12:11] about that and George and Carrie were unable to

[12:15] attend tonight. They planned to, but something in the March,

[12:19] » you know, they were going through changes. I have not seen what they were.

[12:23] I'll recommend we table it till the next meeting.

[12:29] » Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it makes a difference on his recommendation or not.

[12:32] That's where I get hung up. It's like I don't want the town to be in one of

[12:37] these lawsuits that we hear about from other towns. So,

[12:40] » yeah. So, he's recommending it. So, >> but if they did change update, it may

[12:45] change his recommendations. >> I know Terry had asked me about

[12:49] historical information when she sort of moved into her new role there.

[12:54] [clears throat] >> Do you know if they supplied those new

[12:57] bylaws to the assessment? I >> I don't know.

[13:01] And they knew it was on the agenda tonight.

[13:04] » They did. And they had a family emergency. So she sent me a message and

[13:09] said, "I'm we were planning to attend. We can't.

[13:29] got a text saying they did update their their bylaws and they were getting it to

[13:33] Brendan, but >> okay, [clears throat]

[13:36] » I'm okay with tableabling this. I mean, really, we were supposed to look at

[13:40] these months ago, >> right?

[13:41] » Another couple of weeks, >> right? Doesn't make a difference, right?

[13:46] Uh, Assembly God Church, uh, this organization has filed the necessary

[13:50] prayer board recommending granting the exemption.

[13:54] Second, all in favor? I I

[14:04] uh listen incorporated uh organization has been exempted from for some time

[14:09] without filing A9 in 2012 um which was discovered last year while

[14:14] reviewing exempted properties in town. The letter was sent letting them know

[14:17] they would need to file the paperwork. There was no reply and we did not

[14:21] receive an A9 or A12. Therefore, he's recommending denying the exemption.

[14:27] did not deny because of failure of silence.

[14:31] » I'll second that. All in favor? >> I

[14:35] » I'm going to abstain because I >> there were inaccuracies in the last

[14:41] statement. So I didn't >> inaccuracy.

[14:44] » Well, when he was talking about the one for the game club. So I mean do we know

[14:49] that we have given them an exemption in the past?

[14:52] » We have. and we've received paperwork or we've

[14:56] just >> I think there was a history going back

[15:02] some years that >> Yes, I remember

[15:04] without any >> Yeah,

[15:06] » just off the cuff. >> Well, a lot of that paperwork was not

[15:09] required until about what about three years ago.

[15:12] » They changed the state level of it for requirements.

[15:17] And finally, Mstone United Methodist Church uh proof of 9 Kan Street. Um this

[15:26] organization is filed on necessary paperwork on time recommending granting

[15:30] this exemption. Make a motion to accept this move to

[15:34] accept recommendation. >> Is it Kanan Street or

[15:38] » Yeah, that's the best

[15:45] believe they sold anyways. So, but like I said, we've been on this for a while.

[15:50] So, >> the new ministers live in there.

[15:55] » I thought they >> So, they were talking about selling them

[15:59] both, but then they would been without a parsonage and I do know according to

[16:04] what the church has posted is that the new Methodist minister is living at the

[16:10] Canaan parsonage. >> Yeah.

[16:12] » So, this is not the one in West Kanan. We don't have paperwork for that one.

[16:17] » No. >> Okay.

[16:19] » And I mean, I am going to agree with his

[16:23] recommendation, but if they're saying that the Old North Church doesn't have

[16:28] services, I don't >> Yeah, I agree. That's what I'm saying.

[16:33] » It's not a church. That's the parsonage. The minister lives in it. That's

[16:38] different than a church. >> Well, there's no service in the church

[16:41] is what say. >> Oh, yeah. It's it's they combined them.

[16:45] They combined Enfield and Kan. So if Nasoma Methodist Church now

[16:51] » but what I'm saying is if they're saying the Old North Church doesn't have enough

[16:54] services a year to qualify as exempt and that building's empty with no services

[16:59] in it. >> Yeah. But that's not what the this

[17:02] exemption is not for the church. It's for the parts.

[17:04] » It's for both. See? >> Oh, it is. Yeah.

[17:06] » Because you gave the addresses Kanan Street.

[17:09] » Yeah. Well, they're both here. They're both here.

[17:11] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I know that makes a difference.

[17:15] » Um, all in favor >> I

[17:18] » I

[17:22] [clears throat] [snorts]

[17:27] did lose. >> They did not

[17:37] turn off.

[17:48] table. >> What's that?

[17:51] » Listen. >> No, we did not. All right. Sorry.

[17:56] [clears throat]

[18:01] » You have a three you'd like to talk about?

[18:04] » Yes. We applied [clears throat] for a uh grant to uh re-roof the museum.

[18:11] and uh the Lchip organization which is

[18:17] hopefully going to give us some money came to view the site and they concluded

[18:22] that uh there's a tree that's overhanging the property and that tree

[18:28] needs to come down. Uh we discussed just limming it and they said it's too old,

[18:33] too mature, too close. They recommended it be pulled down. Um

[18:39] Angus Gorman who did the depot park tree work recently uh he'd given us a quote

[18:45] of uh 900 to pull the tree down. That would involve dicing it up, putting it

[18:51] by the curb so the people will take it for firewood and then we'll be stuck

[18:55] with some small limbs that we'll have to find volunteers and highway departments

[19:00] to remove. So do we [clears throat] have 900? Can we find it? Can we do it?

[19:07] negative. Um, [laughter]

[19:10] » don't have anybody left on the table. What do you mean? [laughter]

[19:15] » 900's a bargain. So, >> it is for sure.

[19:21] » It's less than the deductible on the property damage.

[19:25] [laughter]

[19:27] » Think of yourself. It's $100 ahead. >> Motion.

[19:31] » I'll move to approve it. >> Second. All in

[19:35] » favor? Hi. >> Hi.

[19:38] » Thank you, John. >> Thank you.

[19:40] » Uh talking about tree. Oh, sorry. >> Interject something on the subject of

[19:44] trees. >> Um the friends of Kanan Village um is

[19:48] part of our tree or uh had our forester look at the trees in

[19:54] the common. >> Yeah, I gave permission to Bob to cut

[19:57] that one down. It's >> There's two There's some ash.

[20:01] » Yeah. One either side of the Yeah. So, he's going to try to save the one on the

[20:05] left as you're looking from the hardware store at the common.

[20:08] » Um, but one that's a group of trees might stay.

[20:13] » Yeah, he he was of the opinion that it's toast.

[20:18] » Highway's going to be cutting that cutting the group of trees down. Like I

[20:21] said, my my understanding was he's going to try to look at the other one and try

[20:24] to save it. >> Okay.

[20:26] » Thanks. >> He viewed it as a safety issue with the

[20:30] use of >> Yeah.

[20:31] » Yeah. Somebody from uh somebody reached out to me just recently on follow up

[20:35] with Thanks.

[20:39] » Update on the water treatment plan. >> Yes. Well, [clears throat]

[20:44] um we've been spending some money. Uh uh we have spent um $37,998

[20:52] to actually modernize and install uh monitoring equipment that will

[20:58] monitor the chlorine and the pH literally by the hour or almost by the

[21:02] minute so that you can track it. those get those that information gets sent to

[21:07] us through the cloud to uh for people so that if there's ever an issue with by

[21:12] the way the new chlorinating equipment um then we will know literally

[21:18] within minutes because we get a notification of an alarm that's a

[21:21] dramatic improvement over the 30year-old I'll say kind of manual system that we

[21:28] would check in on from time to time um so it's a it is a much needed did

[21:34] upgrade and [clears throat] um it's really pretty critical to kind

[21:39] of stabilizing um mostly the chlorine and and and monitoring it so that you

[21:46] know the chlorine is at the right level. That's difficult to do in the town at

[21:49] the moment because some some some areas just because we don't have that loop in

[21:54] yet, right? We still have some dead end areas. The chlorine residual is lower at

[22:00] those dead ends than it is. So, it's a tough balancing act. It still is. It

[22:04] will be until we until we finish the work um in the next couple of years.

[22:10] Yep. But we're making great progress. We also um um

[22:17] will be spending $69,334 to replace the pumps because we had two

[22:24] pump failures last week. And um um so for some number of hours we were

[22:30] actually unable to make water. And so that was a a scramble, but we did it.

[22:35] It's good. Um so literally uh in the last two months we've made $107,000

[22:42] worth of improvements uh to upgrade and monet and modernize the water the water

[22:51] plant. We have more to do. >> Yeah.

[22:54] » And that's also scheduled. That's within the $69,000

[22:58] to replace the pumps. We put in a new uh water line, as you may remember, three

[23:05] almost four years ago, and it hasn't really worked for the last year almost.

[23:11] And so when I learned that, I said, "Well, what are we doing about it?"

[23:14] [laughter] Turns out not much. Uh so we'll be

[23:18] repiping that and um working on that. And that third pump will be what's

[23:23] called a prime and purge. And you have to treat that line just like you would

[23:28] any other water line. And I'll get to that in a minute. Um because sediment

[23:32] and stuff does build up in there and you have to flush that out. We haven't done

[23:36] that. So that is one uh potentially one reason why so we have some water

[23:42] complaints about turbidity and kind of color because uh the pumps that were

[23:47] there the old pumps are basically swimming pool pumps uh aren't adequate

[23:53] to move enough water with enough volume to keep the pipe clear of sediment and

[23:58] stuff. Um so that's those are all good things. I I

[24:02] realize that that that there are water quality issues. Uh these will absolutely

[24:08] begin to help those uh very soon, very quickly. And um um there's more to come.

[24:16] Uh I can move on to the um wastewater plant.

[24:20] » Yep. the wastewater plant. Um we have also

[24:24] spent um another $37,998

[24:29] on the similar monitoring equipment that monitors the conditions in the

[24:34] wastewater treatment lagoons and reports those out.

[24:39] Uh and um I have a proposal to spend $69,334

[24:44] for new air raators. Now the interesting thing about the air raators is

[24:49] the air raators haven't worked for at least two to three years. Now I have no

[24:55] explanation for that sort of negligence but it's it's the conditions up there

[25:00] were pretty pretty deplorable. Um we we've been in in in

[25:08] some level of violation with the state because we haven't actually reported

[25:11] anything to them for two years because well the plant literally hasn't been

[25:15] working there. Everything's broken. I can't imagine how how things got that

[25:20] bad. But so uh we have spent like I say that $37,000 to put in monitoring

[25:26] equipment so we can actually monitor get some new power lines to the air raators.

[25:30] We've replaced all of those pumps. That's for airator pumps. That's how you

[25:33] treat the water pump. Good. Um and um and now of course we only have

[25:40] two of the four airways that work because again they're 30 years old and

[25:44] we just can't keep them running. >> Uh I I can't tell why it is. They keep

[25:51] stripping the circuit breakers. So there's there's something that's just

[25:54] don't >> they're at the but they're past their

[25:57] useful life. Um, so we're going to put in four new aators. That will obviously

[26:04] help the treatment quality of the water that we're discharging. And um,

[26:11] and so that's another $107,000 that we have spent. So the water and the sewer,

[26:16] they basically they use similar monitoring technology uh to make you

[26:21] aware of the conditions and the quality of both of them. Little different

[26:25] obviously. And um as you may remember from a couple

[26:31] of meetings ago when dees came here and said you know for the last two years

[26:36] we've been in violation because we haven't been disposing of our household

[26:42] hazardous waste that we collected. And so, uh, when I realized that, we put a

[26:50] plan together and, um, I spent $9,970 on chemists and folks to come up here

[26:58] and both identify the 51 barrels of household hazardous waste to figure out

[27:05] what's in them, label them, get them ready for shipping, and then I spent

[27:09] $37,315 actually trucking them out of

[27:14] and sending them down to New Jersey. >> Okay.

[27:17] » Um so that total was 47,285. So between the water plant, the

[27:24] wastewater plant and household hazardous waste u we spent $261,316.

[27:33] And um that is basically to overcome literally 15 to 20 years of neglect.

[27:43] And um it it's unfortunate that that you you you guys

[27:49] were really never made aware of that um for so long. And and you know it's

[27:55] complicated stuff. You don't you can go up there and take a look but you know

[27:59] it's not easy to understand it as you know volunteer elected the lake board.

[28:05] So um but we are we are making great inroads. We're actually uh making our

[28:13] daily and weekly reports to dees that we should have been doing years ago. It

[28:18] worked. Um so um great progress. We've spent so many. It's great progress. Um

[28:27] I'm still working on the depot pumping station. uh that has hit a couple of

[28:32] snags in terms of the requirements of dees and and some of the elements that

[28:39] has the potential to add probably another

[28:44] $200 or $300,000 to the cost of that pumping station. And I was hoping that

[28:50] uh the solution of going from a suction pump to a submersible pump and doing

[28:55] some rewiring would be enough to [clears throat] kind of do that this

[28:59] year um for about 200,000. Um but DS doesn't really like that plan that much

[29:06] and and I get that they had some legitimate um concerns about about what

[29:13] happens if sort of thing. Um, so we'll we're going to gather around the table.

[29:17] I'm going to invite you all to meet with the with um with our engineers and kind

[29:23] of walk through uh what what our options are. Um, and at that point, given that

[29:29] I've already spent $260,000,

[29:34] I think we'll probably apply for a state revolving loan fund that will push this

[29:38] the street to next year. But I'm just sensitive that, you know, we're making

[29:43] great progress, but I I just don't think I can get that depot pumping station

[29:48] designed and approved this year. >> Yeah. At this point, you're working

[29:52] probably first a year before you get final design approval anymore.

[29:56] » Right. Right. Yeah. [clears throat] Um so we've already spent about 30,000

[30:02] designing working uh through the options on the depot pumping station. Um, that's

[30:07] what the package was that we kind of submitted to DES to get their feedback

[30:10] on what they think of it. Um, so again, we'll we'll continue to work on that and

[30:17] um um [snorts] [clears throat] so we're making

[30:20] progress. I mean, you've got some very old infrastructure

[30:27] and u speaking of old infrastructure, I was talking with Hugh and Bob today.

[30:33] come to kind of find out that of the 26 fire hydrants that you have in town,

[30:40] I don't have confidence that any more than about a

[30:45] third of them actually work. >> And so

[30:51] we had a little meeting today about maybe ordering some replacement hydrants

[30:57] and some valving and whatever. And uh because one

[31:02] of the problems that we have in the town because some of these water lines are

[31:06] deadend lines is apparently we didn't take flushing the lines very seriously.

[31:12] So we haven't really flushed the water lines on a regular basis which normally

[31:16] you do at least every year. You flush the hydrants and so forth but

[31:22] because we might have >> half or more of the hydrants that don't

[31:26] even work. >> We haven't done that. And so whenever we

[31:29] did line flushing, we we just did the ones that we know work.

[31:33] » Yeah. [laughter] >> So, um,

[31:37] » yeah, we were being told they were being flushed once a year.

[31:40] » Yeah. >> By the previous operator.

[31:42] » Yeah. Yeah. And, and that that simply wasn't true. Um, so so [clears throat]

[31:49] we'll we'll continue to scope out. >> Is it the hydrants themselves or it's

[31:53] just because they don't have water to them or what's

[31:55] » Well, they have water to them, but the water's just kind of standing there. So

[31:57] after a fashion, right, your your chlorine residue goes down, the water

[32:01] sits there, it gets a little stale, and so once or twice a year, you open up the

[32:06] valve, flush out those pipes, get out any turbidity or sediment, and uh kind

[32:13] of keep the water fresher, and it also exercises the valves that you might want

[32:18] if there's a fire. Um, >> the other thing we might want to look at

[32:25] on these dead end lines, what we have done on them before is just put an

[32:31] adapter and have even a half or 3/4 in open line just to keep that water

[32:38] moving. >> Yeah.

[32:39] » To help keep it from getting stale. You're treating more water, but you're

[32:43] getting a better quality product. >> Yeah. Yep. No th those would be those

[32:47] would be good things because it is clear that the [snorts]

[32:51] chlorine residual varies from from >> that's [clears throat] saying if we can

[32:55] just keep that moving >> some sometimes it can be too high on one

[32:58] end of the time and too low on the other end and at this point

[33:02] » um you're stuck with that at least for the next couple years until we can

[33:06] finish the design >> so keep it circulating.

[33:08] » Yeah. So ultimately there'll be a new water line going up I believe Blaine

[33:12] Road to the tower. Yes. That will pump the water from the lake through the

[33:15] treatment plant up to the tower and then down that way and that will begin to

[33:19] rotate the water and you'll get better circulation. Um

[33:25] um is that for circle?

[33:30] » Uh let me think.

[33:34] » I just want to say I think so. Thank you, Jack, for tackling this. But I also

[33:39] want to thank all the multiple companies we have working with us and stepping in

[33:43] and uh wastewater water treatment people from other towns helping out. I mean,

[33:48] I'm compensating them, but they're, you know, they're the operator, wastewater

[33:53] treatment operator from handover is running our wastewater right now.

[33:57] » Yep. >> He's here every day

[34:00] for water. Uh we've hired a a young guy who's really well educated that's going

[34:05] to be our operator, our one of our first operator. Um he is jumping in with both

[34:10] hands and feet and uh really gung-ho smart kid. Um and Seth

[34:17] is really can't say enough about how well he's doing and jumping on. So

[34:22] » yeah, he gets he gets rave reviews at this point from our contract operators

[34:27] that he's picking up quick learning it and he does have a microbiology and a

[34:30] mathematics background and an IT background. So he understands the math

[34:34] and the formulas. >> The microbiology and the math are the

[34:37] two hardest parts of your testing to pass.

[34:41] » Right. Right. His master's degree will help in that.

[34:45] » Yeah. And I have another uh applicant because you're really supposed to have

[34:49] two licensed operators. Um, I have I'm interviewing another fairly recent

[34:54] graduate from college, graduated last year. He has both some laboratory

[34:58] experience as well as biology. So, he comes with some of the technical

[35:03] transferable skills and and um we've been chatting for about a month now and

[35:07] he's still interested. He knows all the good news, he knows all the bad news. I

[35:11] send him all the stuff and he's still interested. So

[35:16] » well I mean for better for worse for anybody coming in right now it's a great

[35:20] learning experience inside and out hands-on learning

[35:24] » is absolutely fantastic young guy it would be something to be pretty excited

[35:28] about. >> Yeah. Yeah. The these are not inherently

[35:30] complex systems. You know they're relatively straightforward. There's

[35:34] obviously some moving parts and pieces and knowledge. Um but um this is

[35:40] probably I say in the last two two or three months we've made more progress

[35:45] than in the last 30 years. So um we're headed

[35:51] » look at the wastewater treatment office. It's neat. It's organized. You know

[35:56] where stuff is. >> It looks like a motorcycle out of there.

[36:01] » Uh I don't know. I'll have to ask you. No,

[36:05] » it it it might not be. >> It's one step at a time.

[36:08] » Yeah, one step. >> Does look a lot better.

[36:10] » Every every day is progress. >> Y

[36:13] » and we've had great help mowing the wastewater treatment lagoons, which

[36:18] hadn't been mowed in years. Um, and uh I've had a number of dees

[36:24] people up at the water plant while we wastewater plant while we uh uh

[36:29] [clears throat] figured out where all the valves work

[36:32] and the flow rate and that sort of thing. Some of the equipment up there

[36:35] hadn't been calibrated since 2015 and normally you calibrate your

[36:40] equipment every year. >> Yeah.

[36:42] » So pretty pretty um pretty poor operation. I just have no explanation

[36:48] for it. >> Appreciate the update. Obviously, we all

[36:50] know what's going on. The hydrants is the first big surprise today. So,

[36:54] » yeah. Yeah. We're We're going to have to um I'm going to suggest we buy some um

[37:01] hydrants and and anything else we need just in case we need them. Not a lot,

[37:06] but we go we'll go two or three at a time, check them, see if they work.

[37:10] depending on the type of hydrant that they installed initially. If we can just

[37:16] replace at the water man or if it has to be cut main cut and replace at that

[37:23] point. Some of those it's just a flange. You have the elbow on the bottom of the

[37:28] drain and you can just undo the flange and set a new hydrant.

[37:31] » Yeah. >> And it depends if they put a shut off a

[37:35] gate valve in front of the hydrant. So you can do that. I think some of them

[37:38] have a gate valve and that's what what he was talking about. But again, those

[37:43] gate valves haven't been exercised in years. So, they may be a gate, but it

[37:48] might not be a valve anymore. >> Yeah.

[37:53] » Make sure we can shut it down if we open.

[37:55] » Well, maybe some of them are shut and that's why they're not working.

[37:59] » Well, then, you know, again, we're we're we're going to spend some more money,

[38:03] but you you can't you can't you can't run a job like this. You you have to

[38:07] have working hydrants. >> Where did 51 barrels of hazardous waste

[38:12] come from? >> I mean, is that from the collection that

[38:15] we did from residents and we >> I know there was three collections. I

[38:18] know there was three collections done without disposal.

[38:23] » You've been gathering this stuff up for years and for some reason or other you

[38:26] just >> kept it.

[38:29] » So

[38:32] where was it? uh scattered around in and around the wastewater treatment

[38:37] building. There's a whole bunch of blue barrels, 55gallon drums out front, whole

[38:43] bunch of other different containers on the side, both bays of the garage that

[38:48] used to hold the pump truck and tractor.

[38:52] » Uh you you couldn't get anything in there. You could barely walk in there.

[38:56] » I thought we were told there was like one collection that hadn't been picked

[38:59] up yet. And >> yeah, one big huge collection.

[39:01] » Yeah. Well, [laughter] Clearly. Okay.

[39:04] » When I checked into it, I know there was a second collection made after the first

[39:10] one was not picked up >> and there was already stuff there

[39:15] before the first one was added. >> 51 barrels. I mean, that

[39:20] » didn't happen overnight. >> The last one I did was 2020 and there's

[39:24] still barrels up there with some of the tags that I put on, labeled them. We

[39:27] were getting collections done and some of the easiest stuff to get rid of was

[39:30] getting rid of and we're holding on to the other stuff waiting for a full

[39:33] barrel way to do it.

[39:36] » We're done with household household hazards with collection.

[39:40] » Uh [snorts] Seth has been great to start cleaning things up, organizing things,

[39:44] that sort of thing. We actually to be able to use the garages. Of course, we

[39:48] have to replace all the the heat, the ventilation that is required because

[39:53] you've got chemicals up there. So, you're supposed to have air flow. So

[39:55] when you open one door, air comes in, exhaust goes out. So you don't you're

[40:00] not breathing these chemicals. Those those units have been broken for years.

[40:03] They're they're they're actually gone. They've been cut out. So they broke and

[40:07] simply got removed and we threw them away.

[40:09] » And and uh the water plant, same thing. It is the humidification there. There's

[40:15] no heat. >> Yeah.

[40:16] » There's no dehumidifier. There's no ventilation.

[40:19] » And there's no no responsible chemical storage. It's just stuck in the middle.

[40:23] » Plenty of moisture. Yeah. So, it's just a mess. It's just a terrible mess. And

[40:28] there's no excuse for it. >> Was the furnace was a new furnace

[40:32] mounted up there yet? >> No, not yet.

[40:35] » Okay. >> I got to do something with the humidity

[40:38] first. So, >> no. I'm just because

[40:41] I know they had man come in. He put a mini split up just to try to keep it

[40:47] from freezing. But I was told that the furnace was all installed

[40:52] » at the which >> at the treatment facility waste water

[40:56] » mini splits up. >> The mini splits up

[40:59] water. This is water >> and the furnace water treatment. I know

[41:02] it does. >> The furnace is in at the wastewater

[41:04] plant. >> Okay.

[41:05] » And the issue. Now the problem with that is the copper piping is all black

[41:09] because you you you've got offging of these chemicals that we use in there

[41:14] which is coating and oxidizing on the on the metal and so there's also the air

[41:21] that you're breathing. >> Well, that's why I ask if the furnace at

[41:24] this point is even usable being in that environment.

[41:27] » It is because it's only about a year old. We need to we need to move next on

[41:32] the ventilation. So yeah, room for growth.

[41:36] » Yeah, >> room for growth.

[41:38] » Yeah. >> Is that your whole report?

[41:41] » That's that's about enough good news I got.

[41:44] [clears throat] >> Um do we have a date for the new fire

[41:47] chief? I know we've got >> Yeah, it is. I believe

[41:54] » next week I think might be the 12th. Very close to

[42:02] Any other business? You

[42:07] » was going to bring this up tonight, but since you guys are talking about fishing

[42:10] game club and stuff, >> ballpark road

[42:15] past two Fridays when they've been doing their Lions Club's been up there on

[42:19] their campers in. I'm lucky because I have another access that I can get off

[42:24] Route 4 from. But this last Friday, I had to go around and

[42:29] use that other access because all their campers are lined up before lining up

[42:33] the hill because now they've stopped let [clears throat] them in. The problem is

[42:38] that road is super narrow. So there's a car I have a picture of a car that

[42:42] stayed parked there at the bottom of the hill

[42:45] and just stayed parked there because there was also another truck to the top

[42:48] of the hill. So, I've been in contact with them up there to do it the other to

[42:53] do something different because it's not working. Yeah.

[42:57] [clears throat] >> It's when when they're coming in to set

[42:59] up. >> Yeah. They they've stopped their timing

[43:01] or something, >> right?

[43:02] » Um they've been kind of receptive to that. The other problem is Sundays.

[43:08] They're getting so much business up there and having so much camping over

[43:11] the weekends that they've got to stop where if we can get a permission to just

[43:17] temporarily posted no parking from like their second entrance up past Allen Way

[43:22] up to the top of the hill where Neil's

[43:28] flat opens up by Hammond's Pits there. That's one thing. But they're parking in

[43:31] the middle of the hill and somebody is gonna get clobbered right there because

[43:34] there's no way to get off the road. Cindy, I don't know if you've run into

[43:38] problems with >> Yeah. Um had a couple conversations with

[43:43] Matt and then I reached out to Melissa today. She was like, "Well, I didn't

[43:47] know about two weekends ago." But yeah, >> and the amount of traffic that we're

[43:52] getting over that road now just because of road bridge.

[43:56] » Well, Potato Road Bridge, everybody comes south and the ballpark road.

[44:00] And I know I spoke to one of them because I physically could not get

[44:05] through with the dump truck. They were parking both sides of the road with

[44:08] ours. >> Fire truck can't get through there

[44:10] either. >> Well, yeah. And and the other thing is

[44:13] you're able to fire trucks instead of fight trying to get across Chris Mill

[44:16] because it's so much slower, they're just coming up going ballpark to get to

[44:19] Grisill, the upper end of Sugar Hill and stuff like that. So,

[44:23] and then last year, the last race of the season, it went really crazy up I mean,

[44:27] they had bikes riding up and down the road and everything. And Scott, I talked

[44:31] talked to Scott. He was coming. I don't even know what their schedule was. I

[44:34] know they raised us back. >> Yeah, I think the last one.

[44:37] » Last year, we ended up having to follow the police up because they were coming

[44:41] all the way up my place. Motocross bikes.

[44:46] » Yeah, they weren't anybody from the Lions Club.

[44:52] » Great. Right. [clears throat] >> And they've made strides and

[44:57] mitigating the dust. But for years that has been a health hazard [clears throat]

[45:05] » from where they are in the where they're racing or the back of the road ballpark.

[45:10] » The track. Yeah. >> I mean, they're trying to do a bunch of

[45:13] good things up there. >> Either not managing the parking

[45:17] situation or they're just running out of it.

[45:20] Well, when they opened it up to the campers for the weekend, you just lost

[45:24] 3/4 of your parking because now you've got motor homes and not little campers.

[45:31] You've got big campers in there that are taking up threequarters of the streets

[45:36] that cars will be parked. >> Talk to Ryan a little bit about it

[45:40] Saturday morning. The issues are ran into Friday. So, just reach out to him

[45:44] and he'll get involved too. But >> we got to do is something for either a

[45:49] no harding >> temporary go up that hill if they want

[45:53] to go park the top where the road wines out. That's one thing. But

[45:57] » yeah narrow >> I don't know there an opportunity to put

[46:01] some signs up that say no parking this side. Yeah.

[46:05] » But probably you're going to have to no parking both sides

[46:08] » because when they do that they're going to go park on the other side and you're

[46:11] going to end up saying narrow spout. They'll park it between sides up both

[46:15] sides. >> At least if there's signs there, it

[46:17] gives the police something to act on. Whereas if there isn't,

[46:20] » the real thing is it's like their second entrance all the way up the hill is the

[46:24] narrow parts that they're parking in. >> There's a about a 500 foot stretch that

[46:31] really should not be any parking because of the narrowness of that road.

[46:39] » So if you guys are good with it, I can make that happen.

[46:45] Yeah, that's kind of >> we can certainly do that right off the

[46:49] bat. >> I can let Melissa know that we're gonna

[46:52] keep the communications up. I see what they're trying to do. They're trying to

[46:56] do a lot of good stuff up there, but the situation we're in with that road right

[47:00] now, we just >> Yeah,

[47:02] » somebody's going to get in a bad spot. So,

[47:05] » well, not to be a wise guy, I honestly don't know. Do you need with the last

[47:10] street thing we went through, do you need a town vote to add no parking signs

[47:14] or do you have the ability to just do you just do that?

[47:20] » Do you want to pass a motion with regard to all the funding purchases or that?

[47:27] » No waste water. As those come up, we've already done them.

[47:34] Um, >> right.

[47:38] » Yeah. I mean, I'll make a motion to to based on Hugh's recommendation. Um, do

[47:43] you want Ryan to take a look at it or you guys I mean, highways. It's sort of

[47:46] in highways perview anyway. So, >> yeah, I would take care of it.

[47:50] » All right. [clears throat] I'll make a motion to make both sides of uh ballpark

[47:54] no parking where they lower half.

[47:58] » I'll second that. All in favor?

[48:04] » Any other business? Yes. >> Yeah. I Well, we're on the subject of

[48:07] water. I probably shouldn't even bring this up, but um a while ago, I forget

[48:11] how many years ago it was, we voted on a um flood control project

[48:17] » on the what? >> A flood control project.

[48:20] » Yeah, the flood mitigation >> other stuff. And since I live in that

[48:25] neck of the woods, I was just curious if that was ever going to happen or not and

[48:31] how if it's expired, if that warrant article has expired because I think they

[48:36] expire after um special warrant articles expire after five years and I don't know

[48:41] if it's been five years yet or not. >> Um I'd have to go back and look at I'd

[48:46] have to get more information. I know I know the potato bridge was part of that

[48:50] flood control project to widen that to make it so it doesn't it's not a

[48:53] bottleneck. >> I just remember them wanting to take out

[48:56] the I don't know what you want to call it. I guess they call it a trestle where

[49:00] the railro tracks used to go over the river.

[49:03] » Correct. >> Uh that that was going to get taken out

[49:05] and it was a spillway and I forget all >> I mean the the uh transportation bridge

[49:10] is part of that whole I mean it's the whole flow of the rivers coming down and

[49:13] joining. So, how long ago do you remember how

[49:16] long ago it was that that was voted on? >> I don't. I'd have to go back. We'd have

[49:20] to go back and look. So, I mean, I know, like I said, it was a multi-phase

[49:24] project because it was involved in basically every place the the river went

[49:28] under the the road. So, because each one was a a bottleneck in some sense. So

[49:33] yeah, that was all the FEMA mitigation

[49:38] » you know the Williams field area >> when I talked with the engineers that we

[49:45] have they were under the understanding that

[49:50] that area this side of Grisill behind Reggie Barney's old place to the ball

[49:55] field the FEMA had uh dropped that part of the money. Well, that was what I was

[50:01] wondering because I thought we appropriated money. So, I was just what

[50:04] happened to the money? >> We approved the FEMA

[50:08] project. We have to approve to accept FEMA money for a project like that. And

[50:15] then when I talked with the engineers, they said that part of it to their

[50:20] knowledge, FEMA have dropped the funding on and concentrated on the bridge.

[50:24] » So, they were not. So, that that part of the project's not going to happen. I

[50:28] would not expect it for a while. [laughter]

[50:32] » Good. That's all I wanted to know. >> Anything [clears throat] else?

[50:38] » Yes. >> I thought she was done. I wasn't sure if

[50:41] she was done. [clears throat] So, my name is Sean and I'm one of the

[50:46] commissioners at the the co-ed softball league. Um, this was Cali, who's also on

[50:50] the board of the the softball league. And we are,

[50:55] I guess we have plans in place to upgrade a bunch of stuff over in that

[51:01] whole vicinity. Anything from the horseshoe pit to the playground to the

[51:04] softball field to the bathrooms.

[51:08] Um, so I guess we're looking for permission to do so with

[51:15] I think we get a bunch of quotes for a majority of it. Um,

[51:21] » so if you can uh either give us copies of what you're looking to get done. Um,

[51:26] and if you got prices involved as well. I mean, you already doing you're doing

[51:29] the fundraising. You're >> Yeah, we have um run two fun and field

[51:33] tournaments every year. Yeah. Um, we also run tournaments for the fire

[51:36] department. Um, and then

[51:41] what else? >> Um, we had I think it was brought up

[51:46] once before about way back in the day it used to be uh banners along the outfield

[51:52] fence. Um, and no one was sure of why that was stopped.

[51:58] » Okay. >> So, we had thoughts of doing that again

[52:02] and getting sponsorships out there um to also help raise money that way. Yeah,

[52:07] » I know why some of them were taken down was because they were advertising

[52:10] alcohol. And the other reason was at one point was somebody Pepsi I think bought

[52:16] the scoreboard and we couldn't advertise anything else like Vulk or anything

[52:22] competing. But that was it was a long time ago. But I know that those two

[52:26] reasons. >> Yeah. I mean, if there's certain

[52:30] stipulations that we can't have certain things on the banners, then

[52:34] » I know Leslie asked about that a couple years ago, too, with the possibility.

[52:39] » Um, yeah, just I mean, give us a list. Let us review it and we can, you

[52:43] [clears throat] know, we probably should have a

[52:46] if we need a public hearing or not, but I mean just just let people know what's

[52:49] going on unless it's such a highly used part for mult multiple groups. So

[52:55] » would the intention be it's paid all for by donated funds?

[53:00] » Yeah. Right. >> Um well we kind of were also wondering

[53:04] how we get the funds that were donated were given in on behalf of the Williams

[53:10] field fund. >> Okay.

[53:13] » So there is a trust fund Williams trust fund.

[53:17] » I don't know what's in there. I mean >> it's about $9,000. $9,000.

[53:21] » But it's unclear whether [clears throat] that money half of which is accumulated

[53:28] income and half of which would have been donated funds,

[53:32] but was that given to the town in response to a specific grant that you

[53:38] filed? And was that work that was [clears throat]

[53:44] represented in the grant application actually? That would be in the the trust

[53:49] fund uh forms that are in the town office,

[53:52] right? Wouldn't that description why it was formed?

[53:54] » The town was the party that filed the grant applications to the Williams

[54:03] Foundation for funding. >> Got it.

[54:06] » And it's not automatic. There has to be a grant application filed. So there is

[54:12] $9,000, but I don't know when the town has it earmarked.

[54:18] » Past project. >> Is that foundation or that fund still

[54:23] uh allowed >> is what

[54:26] » the set up as a trust fund, right? >> Yeah.

[54:29] » We we got the money from a fund >> Williams still exists.

[54:34] » The Williams Foundation exists headquarters are in Maine.

[54:39] » Okay. So would they have history that might answer the question if we don't

[54:43] have any records >> or or would they have any objection to

[54:47] it >> on the 990s and see what grant funding

[54:52] they made in prior years. >> Can't see the reason for it. You can see

[54:57] the dollars. >> Sounds like a death maybe.

[55:02] Do we have an idea how long that's been out there for sitting there

[55:06] » in the >> the $9,000 or the the

[55:09] » It's been at least two years before since there's [clears throat] been any

[55:13] money in or out of that fund.

[55:18] » All right. So, what are your suggestions? How to figure out how you

[55:22] need it or not? >> Guru of the trust funds.

[55:27] » Oh, guru trust funds. Well, to have to have the application that the town filed

[55:34] with the Williams Foundation, >> right?

[55:38] » I know at one time uh they wanted to have money to pave the basketball court,

[55:45] » right? >> And to fix up the log cabin.

[55:48] » Now, whether that was >> So, we did pave the basketball court,

[55:52] » right? But >> two years ago, three years ago because

[55:54] that's when we stopped allowing >> the stakes to be driven into it.

[55:58] » And we also >> reimbursement saw it.

[56:01] » We also redid the infield with all new material

[56:05] » two years ago, three years ago. >> So I don't know if that was part of that

[56:09] whole process or not. So >> So maybe you just say

[56:12] » yes >> that money is unencumbered.

[56:16] Um but then if >> I think the infield mix was all

[56:22] » we paid through the league fees. >> Yeah.

[56:24] » It was we did all of that >> and then I think like maybe some of

[56:29] highway helped move it or something but yeah I don't there were no actual funds

[56:37] » but Cindy in that fund is it can is the full 9,000 available or just the

[56:42] million? >> Okay. It's not taxpayer money. It's

[56:45] fully expendable. >> Okay.

[56:47] » Now, does that that still has to be applied to the Williams Foundation and

[56:52] seek approval to spend it or is that >> that money that has been released?

[56:58] » It's an expendable fund >> because I know in the past monies that

[57:02] were spent from the Williams Foundation, they had to apply to the foundation for

[57:08] in get approvals to >> still pay. Um over the past two years I

[57:15] couldn't find any record that the town had applied to the Williams Foundation

[57:21] for funding which is kind of a loss >> opportunity. So I would suggest that

[57:28] maybe working with your group uh application is filed

[57:34] soon to seek funding for 2026, >> right?

[57:39] » And 2027 represents the 100th anniversary of Mr.

[57:44] Williams gift of that field to the town. So there may be some sentiment

[57:50] to requesting a larger amount to honor that anniversary.

[57:56] you guys want to take on that challenge of uh putting in an application for some

[58:00] grant funding for for new projects? I mean,

[58:02] » yeah, absolutely. >> And then um yeah, you know, then we can

[58:06] tackle 2027. I mean, even if we probably can't do it concurrently, do we? Or

[58:10] could we? >> Yes. Well, I don't know. We couldn't.

[58:12] » So, the firefighters association, the ambulance, and then they all combined

[58:16] into one. Michelle actually ended up combining this into one when it was kind

[58:21] of in its limbo there a couple years ago.

[58:24] » Yeah. um they apply for it every year. Yeah.

[58:27] So they used to get like 5,000 for the firefighter association, four or 5,000

[58:31] for the ambulance. In the past couple years um they've combined those two

[58:36] works to do they were doing 10 grand last year I think it was for pagers and

[58:40] stuff like that. But it's a pretty simple application.

[58:44] » Yes. >> Um the nice thing is there's some nice

[58:47] local family to it that has ties right in orange. She calls up Scott

[58:54] says, "Hey,

[58:57] » works out." [clears throat] >> Yeah.

[59:01] » Well, I've had a few conversations with her, but there have been long

[59:05] conversations because she points me to the town.

[59:08] » So, >> so would you be agreeable to signing an

[59:14] application? Because as the owner of the land, you're the party.

[59:18] » Yeah. >> And

[59:21] for any other funding that they may see they through the Mascot Bank Foundation.

[59:28] How much are you up to as far as improvements that you want to do? Just a

[59:31] second. Just uh >> for a number

[59:34] » everything that we've had so far plus um I didn't get final numbers from the

[59:41] horseshoe people um but you're roughly looking anywhere from 40 to $50,000

[59:49] but that's anything from new dugouts to redo the outfield bathrooms to horseshoe

[59:57] pits new playground equipment. Um, >> we just started new swings. So,

[1:00:02] » yeah. Um, and the biggest amount is the light system. Yeah. Um, a lot of those

[1:00:08] lights >> have been there for

[1:00:12] » Well, that was a donated system, so you know, it wasn't state of the art.

[1:00:17] » Uh, yeah. And we did peek in one of the boxes and every thing in there is

[1:00:22] corroded. So, I mean, that's one of the safety concerns.

[1:00:28] Gota depot. [laughter] >> That's the one that's actually located

[1:00:33] in the water.

[1:00:37] » This book could possibly go. [clears throat]

[1:00:40] » I I've seen things like that before. I don't know where

[1:00:44] » there's a lot of water that way. >> Yeah. So, I mean, like I Yeah, I think

[1:00:47] that's a great idea. If you want to tackle that taken on as an application,

[1:00:50] I'd be I mean I think the board would be behind it and then

[1:00:57] to the point of it being 100th anniversary.

[1:01:00] » Yeah. Which the league has talked about. We plan on trying to figure out some

[1:01:05] sort of celebration to do um for it all. We haven't finalized everything because

[1:01:11] we >> Gary I don't know if I say Gary if you

[1:01:14] guys are all gonna know who he is. >> Yeah.

[1:01:18] He walks by the ball field every night, you know,

[1:01:21] and he told me that he could get access to some articles and stuff. Um,

[1:01:25] » yeah, he's great to >> to kind of show up some things. Um, so,

[1:01:32] and obviously we're up for suggestions if you guys have ideas that you would

[1:01:36] like to see at the field. Um, >> yeah. Now, is there like a specific

[1:01:45] person or point of contact that if we want to do upgrades

[1:01:49] or if we just give you that list, that's pretty much the

[1:01:53] » Yeah. So, I mean, ideally, you're going to give us a list of stuff. You're going

[1:01:56] to give us a way that you're going to fund it and then we just vote on it as

[1:02:00] far as giving you the go-ahhead to go forward. So, all right.

[1:02:03] » And then for grant applications though, we have to review those and sign off on

[1:02:07] those. >> So, same thing. So you come in, you come

[1:02:10] back here and say, you know, we're applying for this grant for this kind of

[1:02:13] money. This is what obviously the grant application is going to say what you're

[1:02:16] using it for, which you already have a list. So

[1:02:20] » um yeah. So >> does town have somebody that researches

[1:02:26] grants because there's lots of money for lots of we talked about it a couple

[1:02:31] times. >> We attempted to hire someone a few years

[1:02:34] ago, but we didn't know. It's kind of been like the meeting

[1:02:42] house. They have a person on their committee that's been really successful

[1:02:46] in doing things like that.

[1:02:50] » You, our assistant administrator, is pretty adept at looking for money. So,

[1:02:55] hoping that uh grows as he gets more more feet wet into that whole process.

[1:03:00] » Sure. And I think a lot of the playground equipment over there was

[1:03:04] funded through the hope foundation at Hyperm

[1:03:08] like 10 15 years. >> I think it was I think it was

[1:03:13] longer than ago.

[1:03:17] » Okay. Any other questions? Appreciate it very much. So any other

[1:03:24] » Oh, so do what are we going to do to find out about banners? I mean I have no

[1:03:28] objection to that. Our our intentions were if we were allowed to and we got

[1:03:33] them up, we would take them down like before snow so then they wouldn't get

[1:03:38] ruined or whatever. And >> are you talking about material or like

[1:03:41] plywood or >> No. Uh Joe Tetro. Um

[1:03:45] » the vinyl. >> The vinyl. So vinyls. Okay.

[1:03:48] » Yeah. >> Um

[1:03:51] is there a board history of not wanting alcohol advertised or

[1:03:56] » I don't know. I mean we have policy. It used to be anyway, you aren't allowed to

[1:04:02] drink alcohol on town property unless you get a special permit from those life

[1:04:06] boards. So why would you advertise >> because it makes you money?

[1:04:12] » Most of our be for local businesses >> to put up banners.

[1:04:18] » So it wouldn't be alcohol. >> You're not going out to corporate.

[1:04:22] » No. >> Don't want the Pepsi thing again.

[1:04:24] » Yeah. Well, the Pepsi thing. Yeah. That was 20 years ago. They bought the

[1:04:27] scoreboard about 20 years ago when the lights were put in and they put in soda

[1:04:32] machines in town, free soda machines in town and that was part of the agreement.

[1:04:37] Marvin Rock signed the agreement um because he was the rep director and uh

[1:04:43] » it was a while >> people tried to put up coke signs and

[1:04:45] all kinds of other stuff and they were told they can't do that but those are

[1:04:50] the only two things that I remember. It's

[1:04:55] » not. >> Excuse me.

[1:04:58] » Ellie, please. >> Sorry.

[1:05:01] » Used to have a sign policy. Do you still have that or

[1:05:05] » have to dig it out? >> I have a copy of an old one.

[1:05:09] » Probably hasn't changed. >> Yeah,

[1:05:11] » there's some typos in it. So, um, but I have a copy in my friends of the Canyon

[1:05:16] Village notebook. Can you uh drop that off the town office copy of it?

[1:05:21] » We can just take a look at it. If we have to update it first, then we will

[1:05:27] » maybe the only copy in the distance. >> Did you bring it down from the museum?

[1:05:33] [laughter] >> I found it in the archives. You know,

[1:05:36] Rey saved everything. He the history of that group. Hey,

[1:05:40] » they found that Dolly Parton post pretty quickly when she passed away. [laughter]

[1:05:45] No, that's in that's in the u Yeah, that's in the uh

[1:05:49] » you means the call of fame that poster. >> Yeah. So, I think near near the end of

[1:05:56] the season, so we can probably figure out banners as you go into next year.

[1:06:01] » Yeah. >> Any concern with mowing? I mean, I don't

[1:06:05] you know, as far as they're going to be on the fence, right?

[1:06:09] » They be on the fence out. >> Yeah. And they're not like they won't be

[1:06:14] to the ground. So, all right. I mean, you were to wee whack around the fact,

[1:06:18] you shouldn't >> shouldn't affect [clears throat] the

[1:06:20] banners at all. >> Good. Anything else from anybody?

[1:06:26] » Motion to adjourn. >> So, move. All in favor? 95.

SB Meeting 9/01/2026

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