[3:41] No.

[6:53] Thank

[7:02] you.

[12:30] Anybody?

[13:16] What do you think?

[13:33] All

[13:46] right.

[14:24] 703 call tonight

[14:27] >> to order. Roll call

[14:31] >> here.

[14:32] >> Um, thank you Bennett. That was Bennett,

[14:34] right?

[14:34] >> Yes.

[14:35] >> Thank you. Leosa here. Mey

[14:38] >> here.

[14:38] >> Sasso here. Skiara

[14:40] >> here. WKI

[14:42] >> Joe said he will not make it tonight.

[14:43] >> Thank you. Matas

[14:45] >> here. Please rise and join us in the

[14:47] pledge of allegiance.

[14:49] I

[14:49] >> allegiance to the flag of the United

[14:51] States of America and to the republic

[14:54] for which it stands. One nation under

[14:56] God, indivisible, with liberty and

[14:58] justice for all.

[15:02] » Adequate notice of this meeting been

[15:04] provided by the annual schedule of

[15:05] regular meetings. Herefore adopted and

[15:07] posted on the public bulletin board at

[15:08] the municipal building. posted on the

[15:10] official burough website, emailed to the

[15:12] Herald News, the record, the Gazette,

[15:14] and all the persons who requested a

[15:15] mailing such since the November 17th,

[15:19] 2025.

[15:21] Approval of the minutes. Have approval

[15:22] of the minutes for the August 12th

[15:24] meeting.

[15:25] >> So moved.

[15:26] >> Motion by Sasso, second by Skier. Any

[15:29] discussion?

[15:32] >> Roll call.

[15:33] >> Skiara,

[15:34] >> yes.

[15:34] >> Sasso, yes. Mey,

[15:36] >> yes.

[15:36] >> Leosa, yes. Bennett,

[15:38] >> yes. Matthews.

[15:39] >> Yes.

[15:40] >> Motion carries.

[15:40] >> No, you got to sign that first.

[15:43] >> Yep. Public comment. Now open the

[15:45] meeting to the public. Anyone desires to

[15:46] be heard, please raise your hand, come

[15:48] forward to the microphone, state your

[15:50] address or your name.

[15:52] >> Seeing no one, I entertain a motion to

[15:54] close the public portion of the meeting.

[15:56] >> So moved.

[15:57] >> Motion by Sierra.

[15:59] >> Second.

[16:00] by Sasso. All in favor?

[16:02] >> I.

[16:03] Motion carries.

[16:06] We have a discussion from our auditor

[16:08] tonight. Uh

[16:10] sir, would you like to sit next to our

[16:13] CFO? Make it like a financial section.

[16:21] » Uh good evening. Good evening, Mr.

[16:23] Swisser. Um first I'd like to thank the

[16:25] administration and everybody at town

[16:26] hall. Everybody is very helpful during

[16:28] the audit, very cooperative, so we do

[16:29] appreciate that.

[16:31] Um um good news once again. Uh the

[16:34] bureau has received an unmodified

[16:36] opinion on his financial statements.

[16:38] That means after we did our audit, uh we

[16:40] believe the financial statements in here

[16:41] are fairly stated in all material specs

[16:43] or respects and that's considered a

[16:45] clean opinion, the best opinion you can

[16:46] get. So kudos to the finance office for

[16:48] that. Uh we also have another opinion in

[16:51] our audit report that's for government

[16:52] auditing standard auditing standards. Uh

[16:55] if we had any issues that we found

[16:57] during our audit, we may have a finding

[16:58] and recommendation. I don't if you

[17:00] recall last year there was one finding

[17:01] in recommendation that was correct in

[17:03] 2025 and there was no new

[17:05] recommendations or comments in 2025. So

[17:08] last year's was fixed and this year's

[17:09] was clean. Uh so both opinions are

[17:11] clean. It's the best report you can get.

[17:13] It's the highest insurance you can have.

[17:14] So it's a clean audit. Uh from the

[17:17] financial standpoint uh I'll probably

[17:19] sound like a broken record again because

[17:21] it's the same every year, but you're

[17:23] once again fiscally stable. uh and your fund balance is maintained for the

[17:28] last 5 years. Uh in 2021 your current

[17:31] fund fund balance was 8.5 million. Uh in

[17:34] 2025 it's $ 8.7 million and every year

[17:38] in between it's been around $8 million.

[17:39] So you guys have been beyond consistent.

[17:43] Uh and that's good for the bureau

[17:45] because it uh it helps them. You know

[17:46] when you're doing your budget, you don't

[17:47] have any highs and lows. Uh it's also

[17:49] good for your bond rating. The bond

[17:51] rating companies like to see a stable

[17:52] fund balance. They don't see highs and

[17:54] lows and you guys have avoided that and

[17:56] have been quite consistent. Uh, one of

[17:58] the last jobs I was working on, uh, they

[18:00] had a fund balance back in 2021 of a

[18:02] little over $7 million. They're now down

[18:04] to $3 million. They're about the same

[18:06] size as you guys. Uh, so unfortunately

[18:08] they were using revenue, one time

[18:10] revenues to kind of balance their budget

[18:12] and it's kind of run out of them now.

[18:13] You guys have always, you guys never

[18:15] done that around here. You guys are

[18:16] always very consistent, uh, very

[18:17] conservative and that's a credit to the council and also to the

[18:20] administration. So, overall, I'd say a

[18:22] healthy audit report.

[18:24] >> Thank you. Any questions?

[18:26] >> Yeah, we're cheap.

[18:28] >> We're consistent, though.

[18:29] >> That helps.

[18:32] >> And thank you to our finance department.

[18:34] And

[18:35] >> I just like to ask add one thing. First

[18:38] of all, thank you, Bill, for the report that you gave us. Your staff

[18:46] that comes here, they're also very

[18:48] pleasant. uh very cordial and they they

[18:53] do their job. And I also want to thank

[18:55] Lori who's our CFO uh for doing a great

[18:59] job again this year. You did a great job

[19:01] last year and we just uh all thank you

[19:04] for the hard work that you put in every

[19:06] single day. Thank you.

[19:10] Any other questions?

[19:13] Well, I thank you for your time.

[19:15] Hopefully u won't be much to look at

[19:17] next year either.

[19:18] >> We hope so. Thank you very much. Thank

[19:20] you.

[19:21] >> Good night.

[19:24] » Old business. Mike, we'll start your

[19:27] way. Uh, no old tonight.

[19:29] >> Marina,

[19:30] >> not tonight.

[19:31] >> Bruce,

[19:32] >> no, sir.

[19:32] >> Anna Marie,

[19:34] >> I won't do it. No old business.

[19:37] >> No,

[19:37] >> I'm okay.

[19:38] >> Nothing for me. How about new business,

[19:40] Dominic?

[19:41] >> No. Anna Marie?

[19:42] >> Nope. Thank you,

[19:43] >> Bruce.

[19:44] >> Nope. My goodness.

[19:47] >> [laughter]

[19:47] >> I have stuff.

[19:49] >> Well, this is all positive stuff. All

[19:51] it's all good stuff. Um I'm really uh

[19:55] excited to announce on behalf of the

[19:57] Burlthorn Environmental Commission and

[19:59] the Shade Tree Commission. Um I filed a grant opportunity in the beginning of

[20:05] August for City Green. As you know, we

[20:07] have a huge partnership with City Green

[20:09] with the community gardens, the

[20:11] daffodils,

[20:12] um the trees that we receive. So, um,

[20:15] worked with Kevin Alberto, our our

[20:17] arborist, and we I put together, um, an

[20:20] application for 10 trees, and I'm really

[20:24] pleased and excited to announce that we

[20:26] were rewarded the 10 trees, and so we

[20:29] will be putting these trees at the 8

[20:30] acre woods. Um, Kevin and I went down

[20:33] and we scoped out where we want to put

[20:34] the trees. We want to really start

[20:36] replenishing [clears throat] the woods

[20:38] down there. Um, so we're going to be

[20:40] working with our DPW. But we're also

[20:42] going to be working with Downs to kind

[20:44] of [clears throat] remove the invasive

[20:46] species down there and um the stuff that

[20:49] shouldn't be there so that we can really

[20:50] be successful in planting these 10

[20:53] trees. So I'm going to accept on behalf

[20:55] of the town and there's training and the

[20:58] trees are going to be picked up in

[20:59] October. So um game plan is sometime

[21:02] midocctober we'll be doing this project

[21:04] and we'll be collaborating with the

[21:06] community to do a cleanup when we also

[21:09] uh put the trees in the ground. the

[21:11] native trees.

[21:12] >> Yes, these are all native trees of the area. So, that's one. Two, um

[21:19] mayor, well, mayor and then that's we're

[21:22] talking about this afternoon. Um

[21:23] Horththornne Avenue, the parking area,

[21:25] concerns of South at Diamond Bridge

[21:27] Avenue. I just met with a resident last

[21:30] week. So, I'll be flipping you um the

[21:32] information. It's just it's very narrow

[21:35] and cars parked on both sides. They

[21:37] can't get out of the driveway. concern

[21:39] about um fire engines, trucks coming

[21:42] through also. Um and there's

[21:44] [clears throat] no curbing over there,

[21:46] so it's really tight. So, I'll send you

[21:48] the information on that. And that's it.

[21:51] >> Thank you, Raina, for uh being awarded

[21:54] the for the burrow uh the the 10 trees.

[21:57] It's uh it's a start. It's a good start.

[22:00] >> Yeah.

[22:01] >> That would be a resolution to accept it.

[22:04] >> Um [clears throat] I don't know. It's 10

[22:06] trees. There's no match. There's nothing

[22:07] that goes with it.

[22:08] >> Monetary value.

[22:10] >> Yeah. I I um Well, I'll have to consider

[22:12] it. We're supposed to technically do.

[22:14] So, these trees or seedlings or what are

[22:17] >> No, they're trees, but then um I'm

[22:19] pretty sure I haven't spoke to Al, but

[22:21] he usually gets the daffodils also. So,

[22:23] the city greens donates them.

[22:25] >> I don't think we ever

[22:27] >> Can we do it on the fly?

[22:29] >> When do we get the trees?

[22:30] >> October.

[22:32] >> Oh, well, see if we do need one. If if

[22:34] we do need a resol, then we'll do it

[22:37] next.

[22:37] >> Fair enough. We'll do one. Technically,

[22:39] anytime you receive something, we do a

[22:41] resolution uh to accept. So,

[22:43] >> it's [clears throat] like I heard it

[22:44] somewhere before.

[22:46] >> If we don't pass it, they're going to

[22:47] come and take them out.

[22:48] >> Yes.

[22:50] >> Uh yes. Um I did have one thing. Uh, I

[22:53] wanted to send a thank you to all the

[22:55] first responders, especially the fire

[22:57] department after their uh, hard-fought

[23:00] battle with one of the uh, businesses in

[23:03] town, uh, Hawthorne Tire. Um, what a

[23:06] horrible, horrible thing. Um, these guys

[23:09] worked hard. I want to thank the fire

[23:10] department, the chief's here in person,

[23:13] so I want to say thank you and your

[23:14] department. Also, I know the EMTs were

[23:16] on board and the police department. Um,

[23:18] and unfortunately one of a good neighbor

[23:21] in business uh lost his business. So,

[23:23] uh, I wish him the best of luck and I

[23:25] hope that he decides to rebuild and stay

[23:27] in town. That's it.

[23:29] >> I haven't seen the chief on News 12 more

[23:32] times this year.

[23:33] >> Yeah.

[23:34] >> You're becoming a reality TV star. Yeah.

[23:37] >> And if he's in the news, it's not a good

[23:39] thing.

[23:40] >> Yeah.

[23:44] So that'll lead us to the administrative

[23:47] agenda presented by Mayor Lee.

[23:49] >> Thank you, Mr. President. I have a

[23:51] proclamation that uh I want to read.

[23:55] It's for u ovarian cancer month. Whereas

[23:59] ovarian cancer is the fifth leading

[24:01] cause of cancer related deaths among

[24:03] women in the United States. And American

[24:06] Cancer Society estimates that in 2026

[24:10] approximately 21,10

[24:12] women will be diagnosed with ovarian

[24:15] cancer and 12,450

[24:18] will die from the disease nationwide,

[24:21] including an estimated 650 new cases and

[24:25] 340 deaths in New Jersey. And whereas

[24:29] during the month of September, the

[24:31] burrow of Horththornne, New Jersey,

[24:33] joined survivors, families, health care

[24:35] professionals, advoc advocacy

[24:38] organizations, and all those committed

[24:41] in raising awareness, remembering lives

[24:44] lost, and offering hope for the future

[24:47] with better outcomes and ultimately in a

[24:50] cure.

[24:51] Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the

[24:54] mayor and the council of the burrow of

[24:56] fourthornne hereby declare September 20,

[24:59] 2026 as ovarian cancer awareness month

[25:02] and encourage all residents to

[25:05] participate in awareness activities.

[25:07] Wear teal in support and engage in

[25:10] conversations that help save lives and

[25:13] support the thousands of families

[25:15] affected by this devastating disease.

[25:20] Now I have my agenda.

[25:23] Yesterday morning there was a fire

[25:26] at Horththornne Tire on Goffel Road.

[25:29] This quickly became a five alarm fire

[25:32] and the building is a total loss. It is

[25:34] under investigation. Five of our

[25:37] firefighters were treated after

[25:39] breathing in smoke and fumes and six

[25:43] was also brought to the hospital with

[25:46] medical issues. The fire ignited at

[25:49] approximately 7:30 a.m. and flames

[25:52] quickly extended from the first floor

[25:55] and basement up through the first floor

[25:57] and second floor apartments. The

[25:59] building was totally demolished, will be

[26:02] totally demolished. I want to thank our

[26:04] fire department, our ladies auxiliary,

[26:06] our Horththornne police and our o EMS

[26:09] and well as well as the American Red

[26:13] Cross, Pay County Sheriff's Hazmat and

[26:16] EMS county rehab canteen and the

[26:19] Pakenber and fire coordinators for their

[26:22] assistance yesterday.

[26:25] I want to thank you to our neighbors who

[26:28] provided mutual aid. Glenn Rock, North

[26:30] Helden, Wyoff, Frellon, Halden, Prospect

[26:34] Park, Rididgewood, Patterson, Midland

[26:37] Park, Pamis, and Hackinac. Thank you for

[26:41] your assistance. A thank you as well to

[26:44] Clifton, Franklin Lakes, Wayne,

[26:48] and Waldwick for covering our burrow. A

[26:51] special thanks to our emergency

[26:53] management coordinator Matt Fencor for

[26:56] his coordination during the fire and

[26:58] also for singlehandedly dispatching the

[27:02] town by himself during the day. The

[27:05] cause of the blaze is being investigated

[27:08] with respect to garage recycling yard

[27:12] waste and bulk bulk [clears throat]

[27:15] pickup rules. These rules have been in

[27:17] place for many many years. All of the

[27:19] rules are on our website and the burrow

[27:22] calendar.

[27:25] For months, we have been hearing that

[27:27] the company has been missing pickups. In

[27:31] fact, items haven't been missed. They

[27:34] are items put out incorrectly for pickup

[27:38] and per as per our code. Our code

[27:41] officers are out placing stickers on

[27:44] non-compliant items left at the curb. No

[27:47] tickets will be issued, just stickers to

[27:50] let the people know how items should be

[27:53] placed at the curb for pickup. We will

[27:56] be doing this for the entire month of

[27:58] September.

[28:00] Ravoli has been very responsive to our

[28:04] telephone calls and our residents are

[28:06] following the rules. If items are put

[28:09] out to the curb correctly, they will be

[28:11] picked up. I want to thank everyone who

[28:14] is working hard to get this on track for

[28:19] the burrow and for the Ravoli uh

[28:24] company

[28:26] regarding the construction on Gal Road

[28:28] in Wal Burton the Franklin project. We

[28:30] are meeting in person every other week

[28:32] now that there that the burrow can be

[28:35] made aware of the progress of the pro of

[28:37] the project. We had a meeting today and

[28:40] the contractors continued to work with

[28:42] us. The start of school year was this

[28:47] week. Please slow down and be aware of

[28:50] the children walking to school.

[28:53] I want to thank the Burough Banshel

[28:55] Committee, Michael Pasqual and the

[28:57] committee for the terrific summer

[28:59] series. I also want to thank everyone

[29:01] who donated in order to make the events

[29:04] happen. Our 911 service will take place

[29:09] on Friday at 6 PM. Please join us.

[29:14] Hawthorne Day is Saturday, September

[29:16] 26th. If you are planning on being a

[29:18] vendor, please get your paperwork into

[29:22] our office as soon as possible. We have

[29:24] limited space at this time.

[29:28] Just a reminder that the grace period

[29:31] for your tax bills for the quarter has

[29:34] been extended to to this Friday,

[29:37] September 4th. Interest will be charged

[29:40] back to August 1st if you are late. The

[29:44] pool will be open on Saturday and Sunday

[29:46] from 11:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. and on

[29:49] Labor Day from 11 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and

[29:53] will then be closed for the season. I

[29:56] want to thank our manager, assistants,

[29:58] and staff for a great season. I will

[30:02] have more information for you next week

[30:04] in my weekly letter, but I would like to

[30:08] you to save the date. We will be having

[30:10] a 250th gala on Saturday, October 17th

[30:15] at 6:00 p.m. at Pagra. Tickets for this

[30:19] event will be $125 per person and

[30:22] tickets will go on sale by midepptember.

[30:26] The burrow will be closed on Monday,

[30:28] September 7th in observance of Labor

[30:30] Day. I hope everyone enjoys a nice long

[30:33] weekend.

[30:35] And now I'll turn it over to our

[30:37] attorney, Michael Pasqual.

[30:39] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, couple very little

[30:43] to report on this evening on the legal

[30:46] front and it was very sad to see a very

[30:48] good business. Uh, Bob's Bob was a great

[30:51] asset in the community. his nephews uh

[30:54] have since run the business and they

[30:56] were just fantastic people. So hopefully

[30:58] they can rebuild. Um there's nothing new

[31:02] to report on the spoiled matter. Our

[31:04] appeal remains pending. He is obligated

[31:07] to file his response uh within the next

[31:11] 2 weeks. We'll see if that actually

[31:13] happens, but he is next up to file his

[31:17] reply [clears throat]

[31:18] to our brief. Um, I did spend the last

[31:22] two weeks catching up on Oprah. Oprah,

[31:25] for those who don't know, is the Open

[31:27] Public Records Act. And we get Opas

[31:31] every day of the week. Numerous Opras

[31:33] every day of the week. Most of them are

[31:36] directed towards our police in terms of

[31:38] requests for bodywn camera footage,

[31:41] police reports, and the like. But a

[31:43] great many of them also come to our

[31:45] clerk's office seeking records, often

[31:48] voluminous records. Some of those

[31:50] records are sought for people looking to

[31:52] profit and place videos on YouTube or

[31:56] otherwise tried to drum up business. And

[31:59] some of those of course are for

[32:01] legitimate purpose that there are people

[32:04] out there who want to know that

[32:05] government is operating correctly and

[32:08] we're happy to comply. Um I want to

[32:11] thank Jen Copenol. I want to thank

[32:12] Lieutenant Ian Spone and I want to thank

[32:15] Lori Fernandez for helping me clean up

[32:17] our backlog and we'll continue to

[32:20] address these Opas as they come in. Uh

[32:24] final part of my report will be the band

[32:26] shell. Good news for all of you. It'll

[32:28] be my last band show report of the

[32:30] season because the season is over. Um,

[32:33] we had a movie Sunday night in the rain.

[32:35] By the end of the movie, there were two

[32:37] people sitting there with umbrellas, me

[32:40] and Ellen. And, uh, there was also, uh,

[32:43] one person from the library staff, three

[32:45] of us, uh, to watch the end of the

[32:48] movie. But, you know, who doesn't like

[32:50] Jason Mimoa doing comedy?

[32:53] It was actually pretty good. Um, in any

[32:56] event, we showed the movie on the

[32:58] Wednesday preceding. We had a fantastic

[33:00] concert for those who made it. A journey

[33:03] tribute band who really blew the roof

[33:06] off the place. They were dynamite. So,

[33:08] we had a wonderful season. We had good

[33:10] weather throughout. We had great support

[33:13] and that's [clears throat] what really

[33:14] makes it happen. A thank you to the

[33:16] donors. We get tremendous

[33:19] support from donors. Um, we do about

[33:22] $20,000 worth of donations every year.

[33:26] This year, a little more than that. Um,

[33:28] because we spend a little over $20,000

[33:31] presenting the shows that we do present.

[33:35] Uh, I want to once again thank the

[33:37] committee. There are three people in

[33:39] particular who really worked hard to

[33:41] bring acts to the stage. That would be

[33:45] Frank Riley, Lisa Sloop Maker, and

[33:47] Richard Schneedeker. Uh thank you to

[33:50] those three in particular and for always

[33:52] being there to support my brother John

[33:55] with great support. Gene Millie, Ellen

[33:57] Bragno, Joan Hervey, Nancy Agnello,

[34:01] Lorie Foley, Joe Carr, and of course

[34:04] Wally Maziac. Um so it's a great

[34:07] committee. We do great work and again

[34:10] everything we do at the band shell is

[34:13] for at the benefit for the benefit of

[34:16] the public at no cost to the public. Uh

[34:19] special thanks to some of the people who

[34:21] really help make it possible as well.

[34:23] Our DPW director, Bill Hafler, Moren

[34:26] Cook for making sure our signs are out.

[34:29] Uh for Anthony Dala for keeping the sign

[34:32] and message board active.

[34:34] [clears throat] Matt Fencard, who keeps

[34:36] me updated on weather uh when I need

[34:39] him. So, we have a lot of hands that

[34:41] make this work. And finally, two people

[34:44] who probably earned MVP awards this

[34:46] year. That would be Scott Guyire and

[34:49] Susie Guyire. When we ran out of toilet

[34:52] paper, they gave us toilet paper. when

[34:55] we needed a battery because we needed a

[34:58] 9V battery for one of the amps on stage,

[35:02] they gave us a 9V. Uh so they're

[35:05] terrific people and uh great asset to

[35:08] our community as well. So thank you

[35:10] everybody for your support. Thank you

[35:12] mayor council and uh next year's be

[35:16] bigger and better than ever.

[35:18] [clears throat] Thank you.

[35:20] >> Thank you Michael. And now we'll hear

[35:22] from our administrator, Vince Caruso.

[35:24] >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh on the agenda

[35:27] tonight is the MOA regarding the PBA

[35:30] contract. Uh the contract was gone over

[35:32] in detail with the finance committee

[35:34] last week and uh is in the process of

[35:36] being ratified by the PBA. Um I'm now uh

[35:42] I'm going into a meeting with the

[35:43] bluecollar union later next week for our

[35:47] initial negotiations. And I also

[35:49] received just today an email from the

[35:52] white collar union um looking to start

[35:55] negotiations as soon as possible as

[35:57] well. Hope to schedule something with

[35:59] them in the next couple coming weeks. Um

[36:02] lastly, I attended the first day of the

[36:05] police department's leadership camp as

[36:07] well as the graduation as many of you

[36:10] did um some days later. Uh,

[36:13] congratulations to all the graduates and

[36:16] another outstanding job by the Hawthorne

[36:18] Police Department in putting this

[36:20] together and making a difference for all

[36:22] our youth. That's all I have.

[36:24] >> Thank you, Vince. Now, we'll hear any

[36:27] questions that the council may have. Mr.

[36:29] President,

[36:30] >> any questions?

[36:31] >> Sure. Um, no engineer tonight, I guess.

[36:34] >> No engineer.

[36:36] >> So, no report. No report on engineer.

[36:39] Okay. Um the the question the only

[36:42] question I have um uh mayor I know last meeting we talked about um reaching

[36:48] out to um state representatives about

[36:51] the flash flooding we were having. Did

[36:54] we have any response any feedback? Did

[36:55] we get a chance to do it?

[36:59] >> We actually we did it right away. Um, I

[37:02] talked to our our legislative uh

[37:05] representatives uh and um we had a tour.

[37:09] Uh they they couldn't make it, but their

[37:11] chiefs of staff and I uh walked the uh

[37:17] the Congress Mills area, the brook,

[37:20] showed them exactly how the brook turns

[37:24] and what's going on. Um they said

[37:26] they're going to go and uh see if they

[37:29] can get uh any kind of funding for us uh

[37:33] to uh to clean it up. Um I did receive

[37:36] also uh I talked to our uh congresswoman

[37:42] um her chief of staff and they're going

[37:45] to look into it. They're not sure if

[37:46] there's anything that the federal

[37:48] government can do. But uh we also talked

[37:51] Vince and I also had a meeting with um

[37:56] the uh administrator for the county and

[38:00] the county engineer uh pertaining to

[38:03] Lafayette Avenue uh the uh the brook uh

[38:08] as far as cleanup uh and what we're

[38:11] going to do poss not possibly but what

[38:14] the town is looking I'm sorry what the

[38:16] county is looking to do with regard to

[38:19] Ray avenue by the [clears throat] bridge

[38:22] uh and uh what they're going to what

[38:24] they're going to be doing here uh on

[38:28] Lafayette Avenue. Um they have already

[38:32] started the process. Uh I called them

[38:34] because I called them right after the

[38:35] meeting. um with DP waiting to hear back

[38:39] from D so that DP can also you know they

[38:43] have to give their approval uh for for

[38:45] the brook um and outside here they have

[38:50] um they're ready to you know really put the

[38:57] to get going on that they're talking

[39:00] about putting more inlets in along with

[39:02] installing larger larger pipes for uh

[39:06] the water to uh dissipate. Um they're

[39:09] not sure exactly what size. Their

[39:11] engineers working it all out with the

[39:13] county uh and um you know, we're we'll

[39:16] be going from there.

[39:18] >> Well, I I do appreciate you reaching out

[39:20] to all the representatives, county,

[39:22] state,

[39:23] >> uh and federal. Um I I just would you

[39:26] just mind keeping the council uh posted

[39:29] on any progress we have on that issue?

[39:31] Absolutely. I would appreciate that.

[39:33] >> Yes.

[39:33] >> That's all I have.

[39:36] Vince, on the grant uh summary that you

[39:39] forwarded us to us, was there anything

[39:41] having to do with flood mitigation?

[39:43] >> Not yet.

[39:44] >> Okay.

[39:44] >> There we're I'm working with them.

[39:46] >> Jump on that if it happens.

[39:48] >> There's there might be some EPA or D

[39:51] grants that may be out there.

[39:53] >> Okay.

[39:53] >> Um at a federal level because that's

[39:56] some of the uh the kind of money we're

[39:57] going to need to Yeah. to fix these

[39:59] issues. Right.

[40:01] >> Brandon,

[40:02] any questions? No, I'm good tonight.

[40:04] >> Any questions down here, Bruce?

[40:06] >> Uh, no, just a comment. I'd like to

[40:08] thank you, mayor. I don't know what

[40:10] prompted tonight's proclamation, but um

[40:13] I'm so glad you did it. Ovarian cancer

[40:16] is an insidious disease that affects

[40:18] women of all ages, and not just them. It

[40:21] has a major impact on the people who

[40:23] love them. So, anything we can do to

[40:26] bring awareness to this issue, I thank

[40:29] you.

[40:29] >> You're welcome, Bruce.

[40:32] We actually got a communication from a

[40:33] survivor

[40:35] >> asking us for support and we both jumped

[40:37] right on it and said make it happen.

[40:39] >> I wish it could have been Tony.

[40:42] >> Us too.

[40:43] >> Yeah.

[40:45] >> Uh yes, piggybacking on to council

[40:47] president's comment. Vince, I really

[40:50] appreciated this information you

[40:51] forwarded to us about the grants and uh

[40:54] of course the one that will go to the uh

[40:57] the sports program. It's a big booya.

[41:00] But then of course now I'm licking my

[41:01] chops at others on this list that are

[41:04] where other organizations decided not to

[41:07] apply. Can we just jump on some of that?

[41:09] I'm sure. Right.

[41:10] >> Yeah. No, we can.

[41:11] >> Any money that's available,

[41:13] >> we know that the municipalities don't

[41:15] typically get anything from anywhere.

[41:18] So, uh, kudos to you for, um, suggesting

[41:22] we hire this new company and, um, and

[41:24] keeping us informed. It means a lot.

[41:26] Thank you.

[41:28] I'm going to I just like to thank our

[41:30] administrator for selling the contract

[41:32] for the police as a first

[41:35] one. You know, no negotiation, nothing.

[41:37] Thank you. And Michael, the bandell, how

[41:40] many people you think went through the

[41:41] bandell last summer years? How many do

[41:42] you think? 5,000 people?

[41:44] >> Oh, more than that.

[41:45] >> More than that.

[41:46] >> Yeah, because we had at least 500 for

[41:49] the journey group. We had about 1,200

[41:52] for Billy Joel and another thousand. So,

[41:56] um, we we probably had three probably

[41:59] about four to 5,000 this year alone.

[42:03] >> And then when you do that over the

[42:04] course of 10 years, you know, I'm not

[42:07] going to say we had 5,000 every year,

[42:09] but we've probably had over 30,000

[42:12] people come to our shows over the last

[42:15] 10 to 11 years. So, it's been great.

[42:17] >> Just curious, you know.

[42:18] >> Thank you. By the way, I have to I I my

[42:20] shadow committee of uh Lori Fernandez

[42:23] and Dominic Mey are also part of the

[42:26] backbone here. And nobody does more than

[42:29] Dominic [clears throat] who shows up for

[42:32] everything in the rain.

[42:33] >> He showed up in the rain handing out

[42:36] popcorn to kids.

[42:37] >> He's a closet rocker.

[42:39] >> He really No, he even showed up for the

[42:41] Minecraft movie and help kids. He didn't

[42:44] know how to build Legos, but he knew how

[42:46] to hand out uh

[42:48] >> popcorn.

[42:48] frisbee, you know, whatever we

[42:51] had. So, Dominic really has has

[42:54] spearheaded this from from day one. And

[42:57] you deserve a lot of credit for this

[42:59] success.

[42:59] >> Happy people enjoy it.

[43:00] >> Yeah, we really, like I said, we had no

[43:03] less than 5,000 people come through this

[43:05] year. And uh we get compliments from

[43:08] other communities. People come from

[43:10] other towns [clears throat] saying,

[43:11] "This is great." and uh we'll make it

[43:14] better next year. So,

[43:16] >> I just like to add one thing. Uh I'd

[43:18] like to thank Dominic for getting us the

[43:21] light show that we had, which was I

[43:24] think

[43:25] >> Well, one of the best we've ever had.

[43:28] It's first time I ever saw a light show

[43:30] and it was very good, Dominic. So, thank

[43:31] you.

[43:32] >> You're welcome. We have to do something,

[43:34] right? So, we did something.

[43:36] >> Thank you. It's okay.

[43:39] >> Anything else, Mayor? That's all we have

[43:40] on administration, sir.

[43:42] >> Okay. Can I have a motion to record the

[43:43] administrative agenda? So moved.

[43:45] >> Motion by Bennett, second by Scar. All

[43:47] in favor?

[43:48] >> I.

[43:49] >> Motion carries. Introduction of

[43:51] ordinance number 2397-26,

[43:53] an ordinance to further repeal and

[43:55] replace chapter 25 of the code of the

[43:57] bureau of Horththornne, article 4, fire

[43:59] prevention bureau, and amend related

[44:01] portions of chapter 220-2 fees. We

[44:04] resolve this ordinance has now passed

[44:05] the first reading. I said ordinance be

[44:07] further considered for final passage at

[44:09] the meeting of the governing body in the

[44:10] municipal building 445 Lafayette Avenue

[44:13] New Jersey on October 7th 206 uh 26 at 7

[44:18] p.m. at which time and place all persons

[44:20] interested will be given an opportunity

[44:22] to be heard in connection with the said

[44:23] ordinance and during the week prior up

[44:25] to and including the date of such

[44:27] meetings. Copies of that ordinance will

[44:29] be made available on the burough website

[44:32] and at the clerk's office in the said

[44:33] municipal building. Have a motion.

[44:36] >> So move

[44:37] >> motion by Millie Sasso second.

[44:39] >> Sasso second. Any discussion?

[44:44] » Roll call.

[44:46] >> Bennett.

[44:47] >> Yes. Leosa,

[44:48] >> yes.

[44:49] >> Millie,

[44:50] >> yes.

[44:51] >> Skiara,

[44:51] >> yes.

[44:53] >> Bennett, [laughter] I'm sorry.

[44:55] >> Yes. Again.

[44:57] >> Who am I missing?

[44:59] >> Sasso. Yes. Sasso.

[45:01] >> No. Techi.

[45:02] >> I'm here to help.

[45:04] >> I know, but I have Lane in there. I

[45:06] apologize.

[45:07] >> I can vote yes for him.

[45:08] >> Okay. Uh, Matthews.

[45:12] >> Yes.

[45:12] >> Kiara.

[45:13] >> Yes.

[45:13] >> Did I say no?

[45:15] >> Yes. Again. Yeah,

[45:16] >> you're hot tonight.

[45:17] >> Is in there for

[45:18] >> nothing wrong with

[45:20] >> Okay, motion carries.

[45:22] >> Okay,

[45:24] >> resolutions. We have cassette agenda.

[45:27] >> Yeah. R120-26

[45:30] to R124-26.

[45:33] Uh R120-26

[45:34] is certification of the 2025 audit

[45:37] report. R121-26

[45:39] is a disabled veteran tax exemption.

[45:42] R122-26

[45:44] is to accept the donation of a military

[45:46] surplus vehicle for the fire department

[45:48] for water rescue. R123-26

[45:52] is to approve emergency contract for

[45:54] authorized payment for a sewer line

[45:56] collapse to Delerica.

[45:58] And R124-26,

[46:00] which is a late breaker, uh the approval

[46:02] of the PBA local 200 memo of agreement

[46:06] for the 2027 through 2030 contract year.

[46:10] Have a motion.

[46:12] Second motif by Bennett, second by

[46:13] Skira. Any discussion?

[46:17] » I just want to thank the chief um for

[46:20] the call and uh actually thank the um

[46:24] Walter and I'm going to mess up his last

[46:26] name, Waraki Jr. uh for donating the

[46:29] military uh surplus army truck. So um

[46:33] that was a huge thank you for uh getting

[46:37] us that. Um it's greatly appreciated.

[46:40] Thank you.

[46:43] » Roll call.

[46:45] >> Skiara,

[46:45] >> yes.

[46:46] >> Sasso,

[46:47] >> yes.

[46:47] >> Mey,

[46:48] >> yes.

[46:48] >> Leosa,

[46:49] >> yes.

[46:49] >> Bennett,

[46:50] >> yes.

[46:50] >> Matthews,

[46:51] >> yes.

[46:51] >> Motion carries.

[46:52] >> Reports of special council committees.

[46:54] Mike, we'll start your Okay. I have a

[46:56] lot tonight. I'll be quick though.

[46:58] Hispanic Heritage Met um and we are on

[47:01] our way uh to getting prep uh prepared

[47:04] for our uh event on October 3rd 1 to

[47:08] 5:00 p.m. We are in the process of

[47:11] securing some sponsorships. So anybody

[47:13] that wants to continue helping our event

[47:15] out and you want to sponsor it, we will

[47:17] be more than happy to accept your

[47:19] donation. Um we're also looking at

[47:22] performers. Um I think we might be full.

[47:25] I'll share that with uh Miss Fernandez.

[47:28] Some late breaking news happened, so

[47:29] I'll share that with you. Um and

[47:32] crafters and of course uh we'll have

[47:34] music and uh and food and uh and we're

[47:37] looking for a great event this year. Uh

[47:40] the audience committee also met and we

[47:43] talked about um creating an audience for

[47:46] no motorized uh vehicles on the

[47:48] sidewalk. A lot of the scooters and

[47:50] ebikes and such like that. Um, and I

[47:54] know the police department is working on

[47:55] things that they had u had a

[47:57] presentation uh a few weeks back and I

[48:00] talked to uh uh Captain Carr today and

[48:04] they are still working to sew up a uh a

[48:08] procedure for their for their end. Um we

[48:12] also had a discussion about illegal

[48:13] apartments. I think that's going to be

[48:15] coming out in the next meeting. Michael,

[48:19] » well that's what you're committed to.

[48:21] So, we're going to hold you to that.

[48:22] >> Uh moving the dog licenses to was it

[48:25] May?

[48:26] >> Yes.

[48:26] >> Uh to coincide with the rabies clinic.

[48:29] And uh we also uh cleared up some fire

[48:33] safety code ordinances to make sure they

[48:36] have to be in person for some reason. I

[48:38] guess maybe CO had it virtual too, which

[48:41] I don't know how that can happen, but

[48:42] all fire safety code inspections now

[48:46] have to be virtual like it always should

[48:47] have been. That's it. Virtual

[48:50] >> in person.

[48:52] not virtual.

[48:53] >> Okay. At least you're paying attention.

[48:58] » I'm gonna add

[48:59] >> um just want to continue to announce the

[49:01] 15th annual green fair at the farmers

[49:04] market. Um September 13th. The rain is

[49:07] September 20th. Um we have Mattie Z, the

[49:10] deal duo. Um he'll be playing from 10:00

[49:13] to 1:30 and we have about 14

[49:15] organizations along with the farmers

[49:17] market vendors as well.

[49:19] Thank you,

[49:20] >> Bruce.

[49:21] >> No, sir. And I'm Marie.

[49:23] >> I do have a few things. I would like to

[49:24] remind everybody that Thursday,

[49:27] September 10th from 5 to 7:00, the Our

[49:29] Hawthorne Ambulance Corps will be um

[49:32] doing their annual fish and chips. There

[49:34] is a chicken option. Um it's drive-thru

[49:36] only. It's a fundraiser. We all know how

[49:39] much our volunteer first responders need

[49:41] our support. It is absolutely great

[49:44] food. I have to tell you, it's freshly

[49:46] cooked on the spot. You don't even have

[49:48] to get out of your car because our

[49:49] mayor, who is such a hardworking mayor,

[49:51] brings it to your car. Um,

[49:54] >> remember to tip your waist.

[49:56] >> That's right. There's a variety of ways

[49:57] you can purchase. There's the QR code.

[49:59] There's fancy ways. There's

[50:01] old-fashioned ways, but support our

[50:03] local um, first responders. And the

[50:06] board of education welcomes all of the

[50:09] students back to school and encourages

[50:11] them to listen to their teachers, listen

[50:13] to their parents, and have a wonderful

[50:15] beginning of the year. And um last, I

[50:18] just would like to um encourage

[50:19] everybody our last year we weren't able

[50:21] to have it, but this year we're having

[50:23] our um domestic violence response team

[50:25] candlelight vigil on Wednesday,

[50:27] September 30th here at Municipal Hall at

[50:29] 6:00. Um I encourage you guys to come or

[50:33] just look into how amazing our divert

[50:36] team is and they continue to flourish

[50:38] and take care of everyone who needs

[50:40] help. Also, that's the end of my report.

[50:44] >> Dominic, good job. I frank I just want

[50:47] to acknowledge the the municipal pool

[50:49] this year. What had another successful

[50:51] year? Uh we did the the ladies room this

[50:54] year. Next year we're going to do the

[50:55] men's room and possibly a couple

[50:59] surprises maybe. But it's 75 years old,

[51:02] right, Mayor? You cuz you were so and

[51:04] it's still there. It's still there. I

[51:06] mean we're all the same age.

[51:07] >> Wasn't me.

[51:07] >> He broke ground.

[51:08] >> I was I was there first.

[51:10] >> But I mean it's all the original piping

[51:12] and still there. It's It's costly, but

[51:15] of giving something back to the table.

[51:16] >> Yeah, we we uh we we did a good job uh

[51:19] the contractors did for us uh in doing

[51:22] the ladies room this past year. And I

[51:24] want to thank Amarie for uh her help and Lori. Uh they uh they were very uh

[51:30] instrumental in picking out some

[51:33] >> colors,

[51:33] >> very very good colors. And uh you know,

[51:36] it was it worked out very well. And u

[51:39] you know, hopefully we'll be able to uh

[51:41] do the men's room over the winter. And

[51:44] uh this way we'll we'll have that all uh

[51:47] taken care of and and um both bathrooms

[51:51] be in good shape for another 50 years.

[51:53] We don't make money on it, but we're

[51:54] giving back to the people. That's what

[51:56] it really is. It's

[51:57] >> exactly.

[51:58] >> So, so May, is it true that the Anamarie

[52:01] can really wield a jackhammer? Is that

[52:03] rumor out there?

[52:04] >> Make me have to show you. [laughter]

[52:06] >> I will I just want the residents to

[52:08] know, anyone who's listening that um any

[52:11] improvements that we're doing,

[52:14] we're definitely we look for grants.

[52:16] I've already met with the burough

[52:17] administrator and said, "Find me some

[52:19] free find us some free money because

[52:20] they're we this is a wonderful asset we

[52:23] have. It's always been and through this

[52:25] mayor and administration, they're

[52:27] allowing us to make it better, fix

[52:31] things that need to be fixed. Everything

[52:32] needs attention and they're doing an

[52:35] outstanding job with no taxpayer money

[52:39] or very, very little. Um, I'm very

[52:42] honored to be a part of it and yes, I do

[52:44] know how to pick colors and I will never

[52:46] use a jackhammer. Um, so I'm I'm excited

[52:49] to find free money and um it's a working

[52:53] machine. So, thank you. It may seem like

[52:54] something little, but it's not. It's

[52:56] another nucleus of our town that a lot

[52:59] of other towns want to participate in,

[53:01] but not until you. Thank you.

[53:04] >> I thought your committee report was a

[53:06] little short.

[53:06] >> Oh, see, I couldn't help myself.

[53:09] Anything

[53:11] else, Dom?

[53:12] >> Nope.

[53:13] >> Okay. Uh, the plating board did meet

[53:15] last night

[53:17] >> and there was a warehouse rehab on the

[53:19] agenda for the end of 7th between 7th

[53:22] and 8th Avenue. Uh, there was

[53:24] engineering questions that were raised

[53:25] and the application was carried to the

[53:27] next meeting pending u revised drawings.

[53:31] uh Chamber of Commerce. Uh as Reena

[53:34] said, the green fair is September 13th

[53:36] and the rain day is the 20th. And the

[53:39] annual fishing derby, it's always a

[53:42] highlight of the year, is September 19th

[53:45] between 8:30 and 11. And children from

[53:47] the ages of 0 to 16 are eligible.

[53:52] Um that's all I have to report.

[53:55] Correspondence, we have none, but we

[53:57] have bills. Have a motion to approve the

[53:59] bills and forward them to the treasurer

[54:00] for payment.

[54:02] >> Motion by Scar, second by Mey. Any

[54:04] discussion?

[54:07] » Roll call.

[54:09] >> Bennett,

[54:10] >> yes.

[54:11] >> Leosa,

[54:11] >> yes.

[54:12] >> Mey,

[54:12] >> yes.

[54:13] >> Sasso,

[54:14] >> yes.

[54:14] >> Skiara,

[54:15] >> yes.

[54:15] >> Matthews,

[54:16] >> yes.

[54:16] >> Motion carries.

[54:18] >> Council president,

[54:18] >> yes. Did they clean the pond yet?

[54:20] Remember last year where we had a

[54:22] problem with the fishing? Well, I they

[54:23] didn't clean the pond cuz they got to

[54:25] redge it. But, uh, people

[54:27] >> that rain that blew through blew all the

[54:30] debris that was floating around

[54:31] downstream.

[54:32] >> Okay. [laughter]

[54:35] Well, just now that you brought it up,

[54:37] the uh part of our meeting with the

[54:39] county this past week, the uh they're

[54:42] going to start construction uh on the

[54:45] playground

[54:46] uh and dredging the pond and fixing the wall over the falls and uh putting

[54:53] in another uh playground at the uh at

[54:58] the Lafayette and uh Gothal uh area uh

[55:04] probably starting next year.

[55:07] >> Very good.

[55:09] Um public comment and I'll open the

[55:11] meeting to the public. Anyone desires to

[55:12] be heard? Come forward. State your name.

[55:28] Get your microphone.

[55:31] Thank you.

[55:33] Um, so since the last time I was here in

[55:35] the July meeting, oh, sorry, Rosaria. I

[55:38] live on 258 Central A and I was here in

[55:42] July about the traffic and people flying

[55:44] up and down the street and then the

[55:46] cross section of Fifth A and how there's

[55:49] always car accidents. So, there was

[55:50] another car accident that happened while

[55:53] I was at work and this time it did not

[55:54] hit my house, so that's a plus. Great.

[55:58] Um, but I got home and um there was sand

[56:01] all over and they did clean it the next

[56:04] day, but despite the cleanup and

[56:07] everything when I got home,

[56:10] there's pieces of car parts all over the

[56:13] front of my house and in my flower pots.

[56:16] Look, there's like a tail light here,

[56:18] guys. Reflectors.

[56:20] And it just speaks to the fact that

[56:22] people are flying down Central A. They

[56:25] are flying. It's 25 miles per hour. I

[56:29] don't know why this specific street

[56:31] they're flying and these poor people

[56:35] coming out of fifth a can't see and

[56:38] they're flying so much that they're not

[56:40] stopping in time. They're it's parts are

[56:43] spraying

[56:44] >> everywhere like I've never seen such a

[56:47] thing. So I know you were going to

[56:48] conduct an audit

[56:51] >> after your last email. I had reached

[56:53] back out to Captain Hogamood. Did he

[56:56] reach out to you?

[56:57] >> No,

[56:58] >> he didn't. Okay. All right. Well, I'll

[57:00] follow up with him tomorrow. Um, we had

[57:02] another conversation about about that

[57:04] intersection and they were very

[57:07] receptive, meaning the traffic and the

[57:09] captain, the command staff to making

[57:11] that stop sign all the way there. So,

[57:15] that will definitely slow things down.

[57:18] >> There's a stop at

[57:18] >> three-way stop. Yeah.

[57:22] >> Because

[57:23] >> they are flying into my house. Yeah,

[57:25] >> while I sleep,

[57:26] >> they were definitely not opposed to it.

[57:28] They they are well aware that it's a

[57:30] dangerous intersection.

[57:32] >> Okay, I'll follow up with him tomorrow.

[57:34] >> Also, temporarily get one of those uh

[57:37] things that show you your speed limit,

[57:39] >> right?

[57:40] >> I could I could I could ask them to like

[57:42] we did three or four years ago.

[57:43] >> Yeah, you did. And it worked. Yeah.

[57:45] >> And central, right?

[57:48] >> Because yesterday it was Was it raining

[57:50] so hard yesterday? I can hear people

[57:52] just flying down. Like I could just hear

[57:55] it and it's they're going way above 40.

[57:58] Like way above 40.

[58:00] >> Yeah.

[58:02] Real quick.

[58:06] >> Now, as far as the clean of the debris,

[58:08] um I'm assuming that a vehicle was

[58:10] probably towed. Tow company

[58:12] >> that's on that's on

[58:12] >> tow company gets paid to clean up.

[58:15] >> That's a violation.

[58:16] >> Yeah. So, if you guys can look into

[58:18] that, see if we can find out. And thank

[58:20] you. I think it was so bad that like you

[58:22] can tell like in the street they tried

[58:24] but this was in my pots. This was I have

[58:26] a lot of flowers around my house. This

[58:29] stuff was in the pots. So I you know

[58:31] it's nice that they didn't go and shove

[58:33] their hands in my pots but it's still

[58:36] evidence that there was like

[58:38] >> like what how like how fast you have to

[58:40] be going for things to just splash

[58:42] everywhere like from the street.

[58:47] So what you're So you're not saying that

[58:49] they were neglectful by cleaning up they

[58:51] couldn't see it because it was all

[58:52] hidden in your

[58:52] >> pocket in my flower.

[58:59] » No, we understand.

[59:00] >> Yeah.

[59:01] >> So I thought I'd share

[59:03] >> hope to reach out to you tomorrow again.

[59:05] >> Thank you.

[59:07] >> You're welcome.

[59:12] » A visual for everyone.

[59:15] >> She brought props. We love props.

[59:17] >> He brought props 28 years ago.

[59:18] >> Yeah.

[59:21] >> Good evening everybody.

[59:22] >> Hello Mr. Bogle. How are you?

[59:24] >> 16 Horizon Terrorists. Uh it's been a

[59:26] long time since I've been here. I was

[59:29] just curious about any credence to my

[59:33] accusations about my property. Is there

[59:35] any anything in the future there?

[59:38] Nothing. Right.

[59:39] >> No.

[59:44] >> Nothing. I got one question. You know

[59:47] what this picture depicts?

[59:50] You want to get a closer up on it?

[59:53] >> Sure. Why don't you bring it?

[59:54] >> Looks like a little dump truck.

[59:56] >> This is a picture of a truck in front of

[59:59] Matthew Looper's house who said he was

[1:00:01] going to perform the job himself to tear

[1:00:04] the

[1:00:06] retaining wall. This is a contractor.

[1:00:08] You could actually see the backhoe in

[1:00:10] the background.

[1:00:11] So, we'll put that side right now. So I

[1:00:15] want to address all of you. Have I ever

[1:00:17] said anything disparaging, derogatory?

[1:00:20] Did I ever threaten you, Mr. Mley?

[1:00:24] » Think so.

[1:00:26] >> How about you, Miss Sasso?

[1:00:30] » To me personally, no. But you have been

[1:00:32] very um No, you have not to me

[1:00:36] personally.

[1:00:37] >> You Mr. Bennett,

[1:00:39] >> what's the question?

[1:00:40] >> Do he ever threaten you?

[1:00:41] >> I'll reiterate that for you. Have I ever

[1:00:43] said anything disparaging? Did I ever

[1:00:45] threaten you?

[1:00:46] >> No.

[1:00:47] >> How about you, Mr. Matthew? Miss Lar

[1:00:49] Roa?

[1:00:53] » Not directly, but the way that you've

[1:00:55] presented yourself here.

[1:00:56] >> The way I present myself, I present

[1:00:59] facts, not fiction.

[1:01:01] >> I think you mean you've been passionate.

[1:01:04] >> You could

[1:01:04] >> You're very emotional.

[1:01:06] It's a very right

[1:01:08] >> derogatory.

[1:01:11] Uh, it can be uncomfortable.

[1:01:14] >> He's though you say maybe. How about

[1:01:16] you, Mr. Skier?

[1:01:18] >> Skiara. Um, Mr. Vogle, in all due

[1:01:20] respect, I've had conversations with

[1:01:22] you, not away from the council and then

[1:01:25] at council meetings, we've had

[1:01:26] conversations. I understand your

[1:01:28] frustration,

[1:01:30] but so you understand on this side, some

[1:01:33] of the comments you've made to either

[1:01:35] the council or the administration can be

[1:01:39] perceived as threatening. I don't think

[1:01:40] anybody directly, you didn't call any

[1:01:42] one person out, but it could be

[1:01:44] perceived as threatening. And I can tell

[1:01:47] you that that's that's how a lot of us

[1:01:48] felt.

[1:01:49] >> Listen, Mr. I've done my homework. I've

[1:01:52] never said anything disparaging,

[1:01:55] discarding any of my uh all I talked was

[1:01:59] facts all about what expired with this

[1:02:02] town with the wall at my property. I've

[1:02:05] never I I can't decipher that myself and

[1:02:08] neither could attorneys after I pay

[1:02:10] 20,000 tomorrow. I'm going to bring

[1:02:13] 4,400 here for my taxes and I'm here 20

[1:02:17] at least 20 times. Now one credence of

[1:02:20] nothing about this problem. Nothing. So

[1:02:25] where am I going?

[1:02:26] >> Well, what if I recall the way I I

[1:02:30] recall it is that

[1:02:32] >> we've done everything meaning

[1:02:34] administration has done everything they

[1:02:35] could about your situation and that your situation is really a civil case at

[1:02:40] this point and it and I think at a point

[1:02:44] saying Mr. Vogle we understand your

[1:02:45] frustration if you don't agree with what

[1:02:47] we said. then you could go ahead and

[1:02:49] pursue it legally if that's what you

[1:02:51] wanted to do

[1:02:52] >> because we've done we've exhausted

[1:02:54] everything we can to try to help you

[1:02:55] out.

[1:02:55] >> The previous administration

[1:02:57] >> was probably going to do something about

[1:02:59] my problem but Mr. uh Goldberg left the

[1:03:04] office and when he was there Mr.

[1:03:07] Pasquali came in and did say this is all

[1:03:10] civil knowing that listen I know the law

[1:03:12] a little bit. I backed myself out of

[1:03:14] there because now I know I'm in for a

[1:03:16] fight because what I've shown you is in

[1:03:19] the in the past is all documents from

[1:03:23] your with the city administration for

[1:03:26] this guy to do this work. the engineer,

[1:03:30] Peter,

[1:03:31] he was in front of me with the code

[1:03:34] official

[1:03:36] and I'm standing there and he asks him,

[1:03:39] "Are you going to sign off on this?" You

[1:03:40] know what, Mr. uh Payex words were, "I'm

[1:03:44] not signing off on this cuz I have no

[1:03:46] plans. If I show I'll reshow you the

[1:03:49] plans again, which Mr. Boswell in this

[1:03:53] open meeting said they were

[1:03:55] unacceptable." So to me in my head I say

[1:03:59] who's upstairs in the zoning board that

[1:04:02] gives this guy this permit, a zoning

[1:04:04] permit to do this kind of works when it

[1:04:06] in fact he needed engineering

[1:04:09] uh construction permit. All that stuff

[1:04:11] was like negated. So now I'm frustrated.

[1:04:15] So not only did you d you destroy my

[1:04:17] property, you're destroying my finances

[1:04:19] now, too. It's $20,000 in lawyer fees

[1:04:23] and I'm still paying my taxes because I

[1:04:25] feel that that's my obligation. What is

[1:04:28] your obligation? Just to say, uh, that's

[1:04:30] okay. This is okay that this guy does

[1:04:32] this in the state of New Jersey. This is

[1:04:35] illegal. Is that true, Mr. Pasquali?

[1:04:38] >> I have no idea what you're talking.

[1:04:40] >> You have no idea what I'm talking about.

[1:04:42] >> Voggo, you're showing me a picture and

[1:04:45] you were trying to tell me something's

[1:04:46] illegal. I have no idea what you're

[1:04:48] talking about. That's illegal. It's a

[1:04:49] vegan.

[1:04:50] >> It's a picture of a truck.

[1:04:52] >> What's that thing hiding his name?

[1:04:53] >> I can't see it

[1:04:54] >> here. Take a

[1:05:01] » name's covered.

[1:05:02] >> The name is covered. So, you're an

[1:05:04] attorney. You know the law.

[1:05:05] >> Yeah. You know, listen, you can sit here

[1:05:07] and play Perry Mason all night and

[1:05:09] cross-examine everybody up here. You're

[1:05:12] not going to crossexamine me.

[1:05:14] >> The way you treat senior citizens in

[1:05:16] this this town. I'm a senior citizen

[1:05:18] now, too.

[1:05:19] >> Great. I got

[1:05:21] >> I think I am, too.

[1:05:22] >> You might. You might. But Mr. Vogle, you

[1:05:25] come here and you tell us your version

[1:05:27] of the facts. They're not everybody's

[1:05:30] version of the facts.

[1:05:33] >> Okay. Your truth,

[1:05:36] >> I think.

[1:05:36] >> Have a nice day, everybody. Have a good

[1:05:38] evening.

[1:05:40] >> Anyone else wish to be heard? Chief.

[1:05:46] Well, he's a nice guy.

[1:05:54] Yanza

[1:05:56] 907 Lafayette here. On behalf of the

[1:05:58] fire department, I just want to just

[1:05:59] want to thank you guys. Want to thank

[1:06:01] Vincent, the mayor, for moving forward.

[1:06:03] I know Lori's been drumming up the funds

[1:06:05] we need to make this truck work. Uh

[1:06:08] we've been working on this truck for two

[1:06:10] weeks now since we was donated to us. We

[1:06:12] did a little more research on the

[1:06:13] vehicle. Uh I'm not really a big fan of

[1:06:17] military surplus, but I understand this

[1:06:19] truck has been refurbed 2010. So this

[1:06:23] value, this vehicle sits at almost

[1:06:24] $35,000 donated. So it's it's really a

[1:06:28] benefit. We've had several people come

[1:06:29] forward in the burrow asking us if they

[1:06:31] can help and we of course said yes and

[1:06:33] we honored to take people doing that.

[1:06:35] Getting a brand new canopy, what's going

[1:06:36] to be a convertible type canopy for the

[1:06:38] vehicle instead [clears throat] of a

[1:06:39] hard top. Uh that's probably about four

[1:06:42] grand. Seats are being redone. We're

[1:06:44] getting a tire replace the barrels money

[1:06:46] and the mechanical will go out. We're

[1:06:48] going to use the DPW of Glenrock. We're

[1:06:51] grateful you done that. That's going to

[1:06:52] save us a lot of money. And the

[1:06:54] mechanics there have come over looked at

[1:06:55] the vehicle already. They're starting to

[1:06:56] catalog what's going to be needed and we

[1:06:58] don't think it's going to be uh you know

[1:06:59] a boatload of money by any means. So we

[1:07:01] think this truck will be in service

[1:07:02] pretty quickly. The guys are working on

[1:07:04] it whenever we can. Unfortunately, we're

[1:07:06] being disrupted quite a bit. You know,

[1:07:07] it's just been a strange couple months,

[1:07:09] but uh we've had this vehicle for about

[1:07:12] two weeks now, and we've uh accomplished

[1:07:14] this so far. So, we're sanding the

[1:07:15] vehicle. It started its painting. It's

[1:07:18] being hand painted. Uh it's the

[1:07:20] recommendation of military is do not

[1:07:22] spray it because it's not going to hold

[1:07:23] up. It's a it's like a

[1:07:26] we're using, believe it or not,

[1:07:27] International Harvester Farm and Tractor

[1:07:29] paint, which is $40 a gallon compared to

[1:07:31] $120 a gallon for automotive paint. So,

[1:07:33] it's working fine. The guys are working

[1:07:35] on it. We're pretty proud about it.

[1:07:36] We're going to do the repairs, get it

[1:07:37] going. But again, we have quite a few

[1:07:40] people stepping up with uh some

[1:07:42] donations. We're gonna a sign company

[1:07:43] from Prosa Parks. We're going to put a

[1:07:44] sign on it. It's going to put our our,

[1:07:46] you know, ID of the fire department as

[1:07:48] well as the vendors and people that have

[1:07:50] donated to us. But I do want to thank

[1:07:52] you guys. It's we don't get to this

[1:07:53] point unless we have some cooperation.

[1:07:56] Want to get off track on that. And last

[1:07:59] yesterday's fire, I was quoted in in the

[1:08:02] county and I'm they're telling me it's

[1:08:04] about time somebody spoke up and I don't

[1:08:05] know why chiefs and other departments

[1:08:06] aren't speaking up. There is a meeting

[1:08:08] going on right now, a countywide

[1:08:10] meeting. All chiefs have been required

[1:08:11] to do the order representative on the

[1:08:13] phone. We also met in front of again the

[1:08:15] uh commissioners to understand what

[1:08:18] their premise of the phone problem is.

[1:08:20] Well, yesterday was a perfect example

[1:08:21] why we need phone. Had we had phone, we

[1:08:24] would introduce phone in that building.

[1:08:25] probably within the first hour the fire

[1:08:26] would have been extinguished rapidly in

[1:08:28] comparison to what it was. [gasps]

[1:08:30] Not blaming anybody. I'm done with that.

[1:08:32] I I think the people that know they did

[1:08:34] this know there they should be blamed

[1:08:36] for it. It's it's too late and it's over

[1:08:38] and done with. It is it is a problem

[1:08:40] product. You know, it does a cancerous

[1:08:42] agent in it. It's not good. But you I'm

[1:08:45] going to quote you on this. 1% of the

[1:08:48] POS pollution worldwide is from

[1:08:51] firefighting foam. So it it would have

[1:08:53] been insignificant to have this foam

[1:08:54] stay in service until something we can

[1:08:56] be generated that's much better. We had

[1:08:58] a foam unit come in from Orail yesterday

[1:09:00] and by the time they got in place and

[1:09:02] ready to go, we already had the fire

[1:09:04] curtailed at that point and the guys did

[1:09:06] uh to do. So

[1:09:07] >> Joe, is there new foam out? Do we have

[1:09:08] new foam?

[1:09:08] >> New foam is tragic. It's it doesn't

[1:09:10] interface properly together, but it's

[1:09:13] something something's better than

[1:09:14] nothing. And right now again, we've have

[1:09:16] a tanker overturn town or a tanker

[1:09:18] anywhere on the state county

[1:09:20] jurisdiction and you have a fire with

[1:09:21] it. I can only imagine a tanker on 208

[1:09:24] where you have gasoline pouring down on

[1:09:25] the golf road. We would have a

[1:09:27] catastrophe that we would not be able

[1:09:29] >> But you realize we can't do anything

[1:09:32] about it.

[1:09:32] >> No, I know what you guys have been doing

[1:09:34] is working. We're going to every council

[1:09:37] meeting with our chiefs are going to

[1:09:38] other council meetings saying the same

[1:09:39] thing. We're asking you guys to get

[1:09:40] involved with it. And it's starting to

[1:09:42] work. starting to make its inroads

[1:09:44] further and further. I guess the county

[1:09:46] is starting to do their their part of

[1:09:47] it. Bergen County is doing the same

[1:09:48] thing. It's starting to make noise in

[1:09:50] Trenton. That's where it has to happen.

[1:09:52] Yeah, that's all we can do. And I agree

[1:09:53] with you. That's all we can do. But we

[1:09:55] continue to bang the drum. Some

[1:09:57] >> people that made the foam decision think

[1:09:59] that galvanized pipe is the same as lead

[1:10:01] pipe. So Joe, they still make the foam

[1:10:03] though.

[1:10:04] >> You can't

[1:10:06] oil refineries can use foam all they

[1:10:08] want. Military foam foam they want. They

[1:10:11] can't leave the property,

[1:10:12] >> right?

[1:10:12] >> Cuz then who's responsible for cleaning

[1:10:14] it up? Because there is a cleanup cost

[1:10:15] to it. And the barrel is not going to do

[1:10:16] that. Nor would they put us on it. The

[1:10:18] green foam has a minimal cleanup. But if

[1:10:21] we use that green foam yesterday at

[1:10:23] about $150 a five gallon pale,

[1:10:26] Horththorn and Tyra would have been on

[1:10:27] the hook for that money. They would have

[1:10:28] been we'd have been going after them for

[1:10:30] that money to re repurch that or

[1:10:31] reimburse that foam. So the

[1:10:33] consideration not to use it was at that

[1:10:35] point in time wasn't necessary. We were

[1:10:37] too far into the fire. But if we had it

[1:10:40] or a substitute for it much earlier in

[1:10:42] that fire within the hour, we would

[1:10:44] introduce foam into that area where we

[1:10:45] couldn't get to the fire. We probably

[1:10:47] would have killed that fire a lot sooner

[1:10:48] than when it was happened yesterday. So,

[1:10:50] it's I I don't think the outcome would

[1:10:53] have been much difference. The

[1:10:54] building's an old building. It's a

[1:10:55] balloon in the frame.

[1:10:57] The fire load was uh I've not seen fire

[1:10:59] load that intense in a long time in a

[1:11:01] barrel. So, we had 17-,900 degrees

[1:11:04] inside the first bay. So, we were losing

[1:11:06] control of that. we were going to lose a

[1:11:07] member if we continue to push. So that

[1:11:09] the objective was to get them out of

[1:11:11] there. And our guys did an amazing job.

[1:11:13] Most of our members were on scene. I

[1:11:16] think almost 95% of our firefighters

[1:11:17] were there. Uh tremendous mutually. We

[1:11:20] went to a fifth alarm. We haven't gone

[1:11:21] to a fifth alarm in Horththornne in many

[1:11:23] years. The only reason we did that

[1:11:24] because of the labor. We had breach

[1:11:27] concrete walls. These guys in 15

[1:11:29] minutes, they were ready to go home. Is

[1:11:30] this so we had multiple towns come in

[1:11:33] and basically take turns doing that

[1:11:34] until we able to break open that side

[1:11:36] wall which is close to de carbone and

[1:11:38] get to the seat of fire. Once we got to

[1:11:40] the seat of fire, we started to

[1:11:41] extinguish that. At that point, it was

[1:11:43] already upstairs. It was too late. But

[1:11:45] our guys did a tremendous job. I I do

[1:11:47] want to thank the police department and

[1:11:48] the amore OEM or DPW is for has

[1:11:51] forgotten too. Bill understood we were

[1:11:53] running low on water and he had the

[1:11:55] water pressure boosted which took us

[1:11:56] from 20 PSI to 60. That's a lot as you

[1:11:59] know. So everybody had a hand in this

[1:12:01] thing and it was it was well you know we

[1:12:04] just wonderful to work here with the

[1:12:05] people we had. So I really do appreciate

[1:12:07] it and your support is I'm hearing

[1:12:09] tonight is that's what it's about.

[1:12:11] >> Is it part of Rescue 5?

[1:12:13] >> What's that

[1:12:14] >> the vehicle?

[1:12:15] >> Yes. Yeah. It's going to be a scientific

[1:12:17] house but we're going to have open

[1:12:18] training to everybody. The goal is

[1:12:20] training on this thing. So if we're

[1:12:23] already out in the road we need to

[1:12:24] deploy this unit. We want it out there.

[1:12:25] Even while police officers are trained

[1:12:26] on it, the only prerequisite we're

[1:12:28] putting in place and we are doing it for

[1:12:29] FEMA is that swiftwater awareness course

[1:12:32] we ran for over 127 firefighters have

[1:12:35] attended it through not only

[1:12:36] Horththornne some burn county towns,

[1:12:38] state county towns, we've shared this

[1:12:39] grant in in Holy and the reason being

[1:12:43] we're doing that is FEMA is opening our

[1:12:44] eyes saying what are you doing? This is

[1:12:46] fantastic. We've got that backup ready

[1:12:47] through our grant writer, which is our

[1:12:49] previous one that Horththornne is

[1:12:50] sharing their grant money to make this

[1:12:53] program work for not only their members,

[1:12:55] other members. And we're at the point

[1:12:56] now where we have well over 127

[1:12:58] firefighters throughout Bergen State

[1:13:00] County that are crossrained in swift

[1:13:02] water. So if we had to use them in

[1:13:04] Horththornne for an issue and maybe

[1:13:07] Northale didn't have it, we could

[1:13:08] utilize the members that be crossrained

[1:13:10] with us. So that's the goal of this

[1:13:11] whole thing. Same thing with the

[1:13:13] vehicle. We want to make sure we have

[1:13:14] enough people trained in it. So, we have

[1:13:15] to mobilize it when we're already out.

[1:13:17] We can do that. We're not waiting for a

[1:13:19] person to come in. We don't have that

[1:13:20] time. The luxury is getting a vehicle

[1:13:23] moved. Typically, when we have severe

[1:13:25] flooding like we've had, we'll probably

[1:13:27] stage the vehicle. We'll probably stage

[1:13:28] it on the south end where it would be

[1:13:30] most utilized. Although,

[1:13:31] >> 208 seems to be the home run right now.

[1:13:33] 208 seems to be We've had over 13

[1:13:35] rescues there. Yeah.

[1:13:37] >> So, do you have it in the bay or is it

[1:13:38] going to be in the covered open? Right

[1:13:40] now it's in the bay because we're you we

[1:13:41] know we're not moving until the

[1:13:42] resolution was complete and uh

[1:13:44] [laughter]

[1:13:47] once the tires change in next Tuesday

[1:13:49] it's scheduled to go to Glenrock. I

[1:13:51] expect it'll be there a week, seven days

[1:13:53] and then it'll come back. We'll start

[1:13:55] training as quickly as possible and get

[1:13:56] it on the road. So, god forbid we do

[1:13:59] need it. We have it available.

[1:14:00] >> What we carry? What are you gonna carry

[1:14:02] on it?

[1:14:03] >> Not much.

[1:14:04] >> There's going to be a ladder on the

[1:14:04] back. They'll have a a mounted ladder

[1:14:06] that's also being donated to us where

[1:14:08] it'll actually drop into the frame.

[1:14:10] There's bench seats on top. You you can

[1:14:11] carry almost 28 30 people on that truck.

[1:14:14] >> You can carry equipment in there. Like

[1:14:15] >> there'll be a Stokes basket and stuff

[1:14:17] like that. The goal with this is to make

[1:14:18] sure we're bringing the right stuff to

[1:14:20] the victim in a car. After what happened

[1:14:22] in Glenrock just recently where the

[1:14:23] pastors were frozen in a car, they could

[1:14:26] have drowned had the fire department not

[1:14:27] reacted as quick as they did there. They

[1:14:29] were up to almost neck deep water frozen

[1:14:32] on a stairwell and the poor people were

[1:14:33] pretty much in a panic. That happens or

[1:14:35] they had a medical, you know, we don't

[1:14:37] know. So, we're going to incorporate the

[1:14:38] emore with us when we deploy the

[1:14:40] vehicle, make sure when we get to the

[1:14:42] victim that they're safe, sound, and

[1:14:44] brought in. And if there is a medical

[1:14:45] emergency, we can do the best we can to

[1:14:47] handle it before we can get them out of

[1:14:48] that water. Uh, and you're dealing with

[1:14:51] water that can be 48 degrees.

[1:14:53] Hypothermia is a matter of minutes. So,

[1:14:54] it's we're we're really going to make

[1:14:56] this an opportunity that we keep the

[1:14:58] vote

[1:15:00] safer as far as the members safer for

[1:15:02] sure. So, but again, thanks for the

[1:15:04] support. We do appreciate it.

[1:15:05] >> Thank you for everything you've done.

[1:15:06] >> Thank you, Chief. Chief,

[1:15:07] >> well done, Chief.

[1:15:08] >> Chief, don't go anywhere. I just wanted

[1:15:10] to say thank you uh on behalf of the

[1:15:12] burrow for the job that you did

[1:15:16] yesterday. It was not easy because I was

[1:15:19] there and I was watching what you were

[1:15:21] doing. It was not easy to

[1:15:24] stage the vehicles, the firet trucks in

[1:15:27] different parts of of the North A

[1:15:30] street, the uh restaurant parking lot,

[1:15:34] Gothal Road. It's not easy to do that

[1:15:37] and it's not easy to to draw water and

[1:15:40] you did a great job and uh even to have

[1:15:43] the mutual aid companies come in and

[1:15:47] stage in our firehouses in case there

[1:15:50] was another fire that came in.

[1:15:51] >> We actually had two

[1:15:53] >> and um

[1:15:54] >> keep track too. How do you keep track of

[1:15:56] them all?

[1:15:56] >> I just want to say thank you on behalf

[1:15:58] of the burrow for the job that you did

[1:16:00] and all the firemen that were there

[1:16:03] yesterday. Uh it was uh it it was very

[1:16:07] good because it was a very hot fire.

[1:16:11] >> Like I always said, the manager is

[1:16:12] always as good as his team. And if his

[1:16:13] team is good, then the manager looks

[1:16:15] good. I don't have to look good. They

[1:16:16] did they did a great job. Everybody that

[1:16:18] attended that fire, worked that fire,

[1:16:20] supported that fire, including county

[1:16:22] rehab, our DP, again, our DPW police

[1:16:24] officers that evacuated the building

[1:16:26] prior to our trucks getting there. It It

[1:16:28] works. It works. This town's got some

[1:16:29] good stuff that happens to it and at the

[1:16:31] worst of times, sadly. But, you know, we

[1:16:33] do it. You know,

[1:16:34] >> the last time I can ever remember where

[1:16:36] we had to have so many pieces of

[1:16:39] equipment in from so many different

[1:16:40] towns was Morning Star Paisley.

[1:16:43] >> Five and 10.

[1:16:45] >> Yeah. Yeah. It's been

[1:16:47] >> And the only the state was there as

[1:16:49] well. The reason fire showed up and I

[1:16:51] said, "We've never been to a fifth alarm

[1:16:52] under my jurisdiction." He said, "It's

[1:16:54] 20 years." He goes, "Yeah." He said,

[1:16:55] "Well, you better get used to it. With

[1:16:56] your lack of manpower, you're going you

[1:16:58] had a whole a whole alarm assignment

[1:17:00] that could not respond." And we had

[1:17:02] three towns that said they couldn't get

[1:17:03] a truck in the road. So we went from

[1:17:04] fourth to fifth alarm. Truthfully, it's

[1:17:07] a fourth alarm for coverage, third alarm

[1:17:09] on scene, and this went from a fourth

[1:17:10] alarm on scene to a fifth alarm

[1:17:11] coverage. And unfortunately, we had them

[1:17:14] in place where we had uh reported

[1:17:16] activated fire alarm in Glenrock that

[1:17:17] they had a cover and fourth alarm on

[1:17:19] Beverly Road. So it's like, yeah, you

[1:17:21] can't make it up. And unfortunately, we

[1:17:23] were back again last night. You know, I

[1:17:24] hate to do that.

[1:17:25] >> Yeah,

[1:17:26] >> that happens. Uh they could not

[1:17:27] >> rekindled, right?

[1:17:28] >> Well, they couldn't get to where it was.

[1:17:30] burning up in the attic. the

[1:17:31] floor had already had compromised, had

[1:17:32] fallen into the first floor.

[1:17:34] >> We decided to go out it with the aerial

[1:17:36] and basically rip apart the roof and

[1:17:38] then put it down and just so we don't

[1:17:39] have to go back. It's it's we don't like

[1:17:40] to go back on rekindles. We take pride

[1:17:42] in that. So,

[1:17:44] >> but thank you guys. Thank you.

[1:17:46] >> I have like I have to say just I'm just

[1:17:48] a lay person. Everybody you you

[1:17:51] controlled everything and but that fire

[1:17:53] was under control within an hour. I know

[1:17:56] it was Brad an hour, hour and a half. I

[1:17:58] mean, I'm not saying it was out, but but

[1:18:00] everybody worked seamlessly and we know

[1:18:01] Matt Fankart did a lot of that work

[1:18:03] early on without the tools that he would

[1:18:06] have after a certain time. He was he did

[1:18:08] an outstanding job, but everybody did.

[1:18:10] So, we all Thank you. You, you know, I

[1:18:11] don't want to keep saying it, but thank

[1:18:14] you. And nobody, you know, nobody got

[1:18:16] hurt.

[1:18:16] >> Again, a good team behind me. I can't

[1:18:18] complain. So,

[1:18:19] >> well, look, there's money, Vinnie. We're

[1:18:22] going to get it for you. Goodbye.

[1:18:31] Good evening. I'm Jack Lure, 319 Van

[1:18:34] Winkle Avenue. Um,

[1:18:37] I want to congratulate Chief Spiransa on

[1:18:40] getting this vehicle for the fire

[1:18:42] department. When I saw in the agenda

[1:18:45] that we were going to be accepting a

[1:18:47] military surplus vehicle, my heart went

[1:18:50] to my throat. I thought, "Oh dear, we're

[1:18:52] getting this mine resistant ambush

[1:18:55] protected thing that you requested back

[1:18:58] in December."

[1:18:59] >> Well, back then you stated we were

[1:19:00] turning into a military police state.

[1:19:02] >> I didn't say it exactly that way.

[1:19:04] >> Yes. Yes, you did.

[1:19:06] >> My concern is that it's militarizing the

[1:19:09] policeing this.

[1:19:11] >> We told you it was for for swiftwater

[1:19:12] rescue.

[1:19:13] >> They would take the 50 caliber machine.

[1:19:14] >> Well, I read I read the resolution uh

[1:19:17] once I saw that it it was a deuce and a

[1:19:20] half. There was one of these military.

[1:19:22] It looks like a gigantic pickup truck

[1:19:25] dump truck. Really?

[1:19:27] >> Um that's perfectly what I think Chief

[1:19:29] Spiransa said to you last month when he

[1:19:31] was here. Uh my concern is that we might

[1:19:34] still be getting this this other

[1:19:36] vehicle. As Chief Spiransa told you last

[1:19:39] month, these are extremely expensive.

[1:19:41] There are two of them that are

[1:19:42] inoperable upount. Um the expenses

[1:19:46] involved in one of those. I hope that if

[1:19:48] you get offered one, the council will

[1:19:49] say no.

[1:19:50] >> There's no reason for one now. So, I'll

[1:19:52] tell you right now, we're not.

[1:19:53] >> Excellent. I'm glad.

[1:19:54] >> This is the thing we're really wanted.

[1:19:56] The other one was a make do effort if we

[1:19:58] could get it. Yeah.

[1:19:59] >> Obviously, we applied for the last six,

[1:20:00] seven years and

[1:20:02] >> never was selected.

[1:20:03] >> So, I was concerned about that. I'm

[1:20:05] delighted. This is exactly what he was

[1:20:06] looking for. Has has done a fantastic

[1:20:08] job.

[1:20:09] >> Yes. The other issue I'd like to raise

[1:20:11] with you is that until recently it was

[1:20:14] possible to watch the council meetings

[1:20:16] on Facebook. That's no longer possible.

[1:20:19] Which means that I'm like the twothirds

[1:20:22] of our country that uh don't have cable

[1:20:24] television at this point. I can't watch

[1:20:26] the council meetings live. I have to

[1:20:30] wait until they get posted on on face on

[1:20:32] YouTube.

[1:20:34] I'd like to ask the council and the

[1:20:36] administration to consider going back to

[1:20:39] having Facebook live so that anyone in

[1:20:42] town and I assume about twothirds of the

[1:20:45] town doesn't have access to the live

[1:20:47] feed. Otherwise, um you're really

[1:20:50] cutting off a big part of the community

[1:20:52] and not allowing them to to participate

[1:20:54] at least by viewing it live and having

[1:20:56] some sense of what's going on in town.

[1:20:59] Um they're going to miss announcements

[1:21:01] of upcoming events. Um, it's it's a

[1:21:04] really important thing in my opinion.

[1:21:06] Please, if you would consider it doesn't

[1:21:08] I don't believe it costs you a lot.

[1:21:10] >> Yeah, there was just technical issues.

[1:21:12] The clerk can give you

[1:21:13] >> So, please if you would consider um

[1:21:15] putting back a live feed so that people

[1:21:17] can watch Mr. Lord, I actually spoke

[1:21:21] with my clerk this afternoon. We were

[1:21:23] talking about this. Um, Facebook is an

[1:21:26] unstable platform and not only is it

[1:21:29] unstable, but you have to have a

[1:21:31] Facebook account in order to watch the

[1:21:33] live feed. Whereas with YouTube, if we

[1:21:37] start streaming it live on YouTube,

[1:21:40] which is what we plan to do now, it it's

[1:21:44] web- based, you know what I mean? So,

[1:21:45] anybody, you don't need an account, they

[1:21:47] can watch it. So, that's going to open

[1:21:49] it up to everybody. Um, and we're we

[1:21:52] actually working today. We were actually

[1:21:54] working about trying to get that

[1:21:56] accomplished very shortly.

[1:21:58] >> I guess I call that a fantastic fast

[1:22:00] response. I asked for it and here it's

[1:22:02] already happening.

[1:22:03] >> So that'll accomplish the same thing.

[1:22:04] He's looking for a live feed versus the

[1:22:06] >> a YouTube live would be great. And you

[1:22:08] can also turn off the comments if you

[1:22:10] don't want to see what people have to

[1:22:12] say about the meetings. Thank you so

[1:22:14] much.

[1:22:16] >> Well, seeing as no one Well, anyone else

[1:22:18] wish to be heard? [laughter]

[1:22:20] >> Seeing no one, I entertain a motion to

[1:22:22] close the public. So move.

[1:22:23] >> Motion by Sierra,

[1:22:25] second by Leosa. All in favor?

[1:22:28] >> I. Motion carries. Our next council

[1:22:30] meeting is Wednesday, September 16 at 7

[1:22:33] p.m. Have a motion to adjurnn.

[1:22:35] >> So move.

[1:22:36] >> Motion by Scar. Second by Sasso. All in

[1:22:39] favor? I.

[1:22:41] >> Motion carries. We're adjourned.

[1:22:46] » I wrote that down.

[1:22:49] Still think this is appeaseful.

Council Meeting Sept. 2, 2026

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