[1:33] All right. Time to call to order um the

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[1:39] 10th. Uh this meeting is being live

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[2:08] Okay, we roll.

[2:11] Um,

[2:12] let's see. U not not present is Daisy

[2:17] Lucio with Marty Clark.

[2:20] Um see Shane

[2:23] >> here.

[2:24] >> Harold

[2:24] >> here. Brian

[2:26] >> here.

[2:27] >> Wayne

[2:27] >> here.

[2:29] All right. And um

[2:32] with the record show Ronnie Levens is

[2:34] present. Um so we do have a quorum.

[2:38] All right. Um, need a u [clears throat]

[2:41] a motion to approve the agenda.

[2:45] >> I move to approve the agenda.

[2:46] >> Okay. Motion made by Harolds.

[2:49] >> I'll second it.

[2:50] >> Second by Wayne. All in favor say I.

[2:53] >> I.

[2:54] >> Okay.

[2:56] It's been approved. Um

[2:59] for standing business um approval of

[3:02] prior meeting approval of prior um

[3:04] meeting minutes.

[3:07] Um,

[3:08] everybody's received a copy of that.

[3:11] Don't need a motion to approve.

[3:12] >> So move.

[3:13] >> Okay. Motion made by Brian.

[3:16] >> I'll second.

[3:17] >> Second by Shane. All in favor say I.

[3:20] >> I.

[3:22] has it. Um,

[3:25] is there any public comments?

[3:27] >> No.

[3:29] public comments. Um, no old business.

[3:32] All right. Moving on to new business.

[3:36] Um, first up on the agenda is PC2026-5

[3:43] and uh that's the order approving uh

[3:45] declaratory resolution

[3:47] amending central char.

[3:50] So you want to explain that?

[3:52] >> Yeah, good evening. Brad Benson with FBT

[3:55] Given um here redevelopment commission.

[3:58] So um for the next I've got the next

[4:01] four items on the agenda. So, I'll kind

[4:03] of give you a little bit of background

[4:04] here and then we can go through this and

[4:07] address any specific questions you all

[4:08] may have. Um, so first things first is

[4:12] the RDC's already looked at this,

[4:13] approved it. Um, and it'll go here to

[4:16] this board, this commission, uh, then to

[4:19] city council and then it'll go back to

[4:21] RDC which will get rectified and move

[4:23] everything forward actually. That's the

[4:25] process. um timeline of events.

[4:29] How this came about, my understanding is

[4:31] that

[4:33] this was recommended um on behalf of the

[4:36] exhibits itself were prepared by the

[4:37] Wheelie Group, but this was also

[4:38] recommended by Baker Gilly um as far as

[4:42] cleaning up a couple of the items. Some

[4:43] of the things are say just updating.

[4:46] Some of them are cleaning and removing

[4:48] tenant parcels that weren't intended to

[4:50] be included. Um there's a few

[4:53] expansions, but I said at that point I

[4:55] can kind of go through them. I'll start

[4:56] with the first one, which is the O5. Um

[5:00] that one is we are going to be removing

[5:03] a parcel from the central central

[5:07] Charletown allocation area and and

[5:09] adding one to Shadow Lake. Um some of

[5:12] the revisions in Shadow Lake are solely

[5:15] due to changes of parcel numbers. Um

[5:18] that property originally it was

[5:21] originally done before it was platted.

[5:23] So with the new plat obviously created

[5:25] new parcel numbers. Um so that's for

[5:27] that partial there. You are also

[5:31] removing I believe it was removing one

[5:34] of those as well. We see removing the

[5:36] 700 residential homestead parcels which

[5:38] is partly the Woodford farms. There's

[5:41] some areas there. All those exhibits are

[5:43] included um in what was approved by the

[5:45] RDC. Um

[5:49] there's a lot there because of the

[5:51] number of partials you're including, but

[5:53] this time I summed it up as much as I

[5:55] could.

[5:57] >> Okay, I slow you down just a little bit.

[5:59] >> Yeah, go for it.

[5:59] >> So the Shadow Lake.

[6:00] >> Yes, sir.

[6:03] >> We are There was an area that was

[6:05] considered residential.

[6:08] Are you kicking that? What? I don't What

[6:10] do you mean you're moving? What do you

[6:12] mean,

[6:12] >> man? Absolutely. Yeah. I was so fre

[6:18] >> correct. So here's your This is your

[6:21] current sh This is Charles Town. This is

[6:23] the shadow leg side. Uh

[6:28] >> I pulled it all the

[6:32] [clears throat]

[6:32] >> You did.

[6:34] Let me grab my copy here if you don't

[6:36] mind.

[6:46] you may have and it just they all kind

[6:48] of look the same, right? They all say

[6:49] colors of that name there. Let me make

[6:51] sure we're looking at the same one. So,

[6:54] this is the this is the original one.

[6:56] you have is the seat that was what

[6:58] was originally included in the Shadow

[7:00] Lake side of it.

[7:01] >> Okay.

[7:02] >> And then what is being included now is

[7:05] the actual updated plaque included in

[7:09] that parcel.

[7:12] We amend it which is on F.

[7:16] It's this one right here.

[7:19] So you can see how that's changed

[7:20] >> due to the

[7:21] >> So we're going from there to this.

[7:24] >> Correct. Yes, sir.

[7:27] >> Okay. All right. I'm with you now.

[7:30] >> Yeah, it's almost a sideby-side

[7:31] comparison. It makes it a little bit

[7:33] easier here.

[7:39] So they're taking out a bunch of

[7:40] residential plots.

[7:42] >> What about 700? Is that number accurate?

[7:45] >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[7:47] >> About 700 residential

[7:50] parcels.

[7:52] >> So it's taken from the tip boundary

[7:54] >> and that was in the original amended

[7:58] central Charleston

[8:02] and this one here.

[8:03] >> Yeah, I'm looking at that one. Right.

[8:07] Yeah. And this is our most convoluted

[8:08] one out of the four items on the agenda.

[8:10] So

[8:12] >> Okay.

[8:14] All right.

[8:17] » No, but go ahead. Well, I'll catch up

[8:19] here.

[8:22] >> Yeah, you're good. You're good. No,

[8:23] you're good.

[8:23] >> This particular item, I don't have

[8:24] anything else. I just will make sure the

[8:26] commission's comfortable with what we're

[8:27] doing.

[8:28] >> Okay. So, we're we're taking this to

[8:31] this. Is that what you're saying? Let me

[8:34] make sure we're looking at the right

[8:35] one.

[8:35] >> This is uh Shadow Lake and you're taking

[8:39] it to that.

[8:40] >> Correct. And this was it added the road

[8:45] here.

[8:45] >> Correct. So originally Shadow Lake's a

[8:48] good one. Originally that was not

[8:50] platted the road through it the surf,

[8:52] you know. So it's more of cleaning up,

[8:54] updating what is accurate as far as

[8:56] partial numbers.

[8:57] >> Okay. So this is we're not changing the

[8:59] tip on this. you're on for Shadow Lake.

[9:04] >> I'm sorry. I don't mean that.

[9:06] >> You're fine. This is part of why I'm

[9:08] here to answer questions and and do the

[9:10] best I can to make you guys comfortable

[9:12] before we make a decision on it. Um,

[9:14] yes, there is some revisions on on all

[9:17] of them, right? On central.

[9:21] >> Yes, correct.

[9:22] >> So, are you changing the years of the

[9:23] tip? Are you just changing the the loc

[9:26] the boundaries of the tip? We are

[9:29] updating the partial numbers on those

[9:31] tips to make it more to reflect the

[9:33] accurate numbers to space.

[9:36] >> Okay. And there are some additional

[9:39] there's some a little bit of changes to

[9:41] some of these like this little triangle

[9:42] was added.

[9:44] Okay. I think I know what you're doing

[9:46] now. All right. Go ahead.

[9:48] >> Does anybody else have any other

[9:49] questions on this item?

[9:52] >> I apologize for it. It's a little little

[9:54] confusing with such a

[9:55] >> tip boundary will stay the same.

[9:58] Except except for the ones that we've listed that those are J show that

[10:02] are shown on there. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes,

[10:03] sir. Got you.

[10:04] >> So, standard tax revenues, it'll roll

[10:06] back into the general taxing units.

[10:10] >> I'm sorry. Say that again.

[10:12] >> Uh

[10:14] the let's see the standard tax revenues

[10:17] do they flow I guess it'll flow back

[10:19] into the general taxing taxing units.

[10:23] Well, for the TIFF itself, it it would

[10:26] stay all everything stays the same,

[10:28] right? It all funds into the TIFF the

[10:30] fund there. But this one, what we're

[10:34] doing here is clarifying the parcels,

[10:36] rectifying what has been changed over

[10:38] the years. Um, due to the plat said,

[10:41] there were some additions. There was

[10:43] some one or two of these parcels should

[10:45] not have included originally due to fat

[10:48] finger typos

[10:50] to rectify what should have been

[10:51] included in it. that tax that tax uh

[10:55] revenue will stay with that tip. They

[10:57] won't go into the general fund.

[10:58] >> Correct.

[10:59] >> Okay.

[11:04] » I'm I'm

[11:07] sorry.

[11:16] » Start throwing something at

[11:18] >> Y.

[11:21] You're you're getting there. I was in

[11:22] the meeting and and

[11:25] basically um Matt when you presented it, in fashion on each one

[11:30] of these resolutions. Um and indicating

[11:33] that there were parcels that had been

[11:35] misidentified earlier were now being

[11:38] removed and then other parcels were

[11:40] being added to the t district. It really

[11:42] didn't change.

[11:43] >> Boundaries didn't change

[11:44] >> change at all. Didn't change anything of

[11:45] that nature. Just cleaned it up. Um and

[11:47] then when you get to the last one, the

[11:49] Clark North Clark um basically

[11:52] determined that it was a kind of a

[11:54] pointless tiff district based upon the

[11:57] area there in the fund. Yeah. So

[12:00] >> yeah, there's no So there's no impact to

[12:03] our municipal

[12:05] >> funds or anything.

[12:07] >> No impact there.

[12:08] >> Okay. Got that.

[12:09] >> And the one he just referenced was this

[12:11] one on the I believe it was 08. So the

[12:14] last one I'm glad you did. No, you're

[12:16] everything he said, we're on the same

[12:18] page, but it's always good when we say

[12:20] the same thing. Gota

[12:28] move on to the next one as far as I'm

[12:30] concerned. Oh, we need to make a motion.

[12:35] >> Okay. Uh yeah. So, uh we need a motion

[12:38] to um approve the PC 20265.

[12:44] >> I'll make that motion.

[12:45] >> Okay. Motion made by Wayne.

[12:47] >> Second.

[12:48] by Brian. Any further discussion?

[12:52] All in favor say I.

[12:53] >> I.

[12:54] >> Any opposed? Okay. Eyes have it.

[12:57] Unanimous.

[13:01] » All right. Um.

[13:04] Okay. Next item is the uh PC 2026.

[13:10] >> Yes sir. And that is for the order

[13:14] approving um the resolution amending the

[13:17] Indian American economic development

[13:18] area. Um what this one is is that

[13:21] removing an uned

[13:23] parcel. So it's just one parcel here

[13:26] that that is being removed that should

[13:28] not have been and I'm finding the

[13:31] exhibit for you right now. I can see it.

[13:33] >> So just correcting the boundary error.

[13:35] >> Correct.

[13:37] This was not shown on there, but it was

[13:38] a little triangle.

[13:41] >> Yeah.

[13:41] >> Where? Which one?

[13:45] » Just a little triangle right here.

[13:49] >> Okay.

[13:55] So, this is right here on 62.

[14:00] Get rid of the triangle.

[14:04] Okay, that's just cleaning up parcels

[14:06] also.

[14:06] >> That's removing one that should not have

[14:08] been included originally.

[14:10] >> Just cleaning up. Yes, sir.

[14:11] >> Okay,

[14:14] this is the same.

[14:16] >> I don't want to repeat myself, but for

[14:18] the this is was approved. It was

[14:21] recommended by Baker Tilly uh based off

[14:24] of it and the Wheatley group is involved

[14:27] in it as well. So, this RDC has approved

[14:30] it. here council back to them.

[14:36] » I make a motion.

[14:37] >> I'll second it.

[14:39] >> Okay. Motion made by Brian, seconded by

[14:41] Shane. Any further discussion?

[14:45] All in favor say I.

[14:46] >> I.

[14:47] >> Any opposed?

[14:48] >> Okay. I

[14:52] straight.

[14:58] » Okay. Okay, on to the next item PC

[15:00] 20267.

[15:05] » Yes. So, this is the um same thing we've

[15:08] done last for the previous two items,

[15:10] but this is for the uh depot street uh

[15:14] in our development area. Um it is

[15:19] going to clarify and consolidate some of

[15:22] the parcels that the numbers have

[15:23] changed throughout the years. Um, and

[15:26] then removing one partial that was. Now,

[15:29] this one does add a an adjacent piece to

[15:32] this. We'll make sure to clarify.

[15:47] Okay.

[15:55] I don't see.

[15:56] >> This is the little small triangle here.

[15:58] [clears throat]

[16:05] » Oh, okay. Yeah. See that?

[16:37] So you say this one brings in um new

[16:41] parcels.

[16:41] >> This brings in one one new parcel. Yes

[16:44] sir.

[16:44] >> Okay. To the tip area.

[16:46] >> It it removes one and brings one in. Um

[16:49] the removal was unattended piece. The

[16:51] other ones were clarifications. Those

[16:53] have changed over the years planning

[16:56] process over.

[16:58] Okay.

[17:02] Any any discussion?

[17:04] >> I'll second.

[17:07] >> Okay. So, um we need a motion.

[17:09] >> Motion.

[17:10] Brian and second by Harold.

[17:13] >> Any further discussion? All in favor say

[17:16] I.

[17:17] >> I.

[17:19] >> Passes unanimously.

[17:27] Okay.

[17:31] » All right. Um, next item PC 20268.

[17:36] >> Yes. And this is the one that he

[17:38] mentioned earlier, the North Clar

[17:40] Community Hospital Economic Development

[17:41] Area. Um, this is to terminate that area

[17:46] due to a it just quite hasn't formed.

[17:49] Um, it's only got $102

[17:53] that it's collected in it.

[17:54] >> Has it uh has it has it expired?

[17:57] >> No, it has not expired.

[17:59] >> But we can kill it even though it hasn't

[18:00] expired.

[18:01] >> Correct. That's what this is.

[18:02] >> Okay.

[18:05] >> And just for my clarification so we

[18:08] understand, even though it's only

[18:10] gaining three three, what' you say?

[18:12] >> $312. Yes, sir.

[18:15] >> Is it we kill it just because it's more

[18:18] of a in the neck just to do the

[18:20] paperwork and is that why

[18:22] >> yes

[18:23] >> that was that was the consensus

[18:26] let's

[18:27] >> it's not it's not worth

[18:28] >> burden on the court treasur's office to

[18:30] have to deal with that through state

[18:31] board of accounts and it would be better

[18:33] accounting

[18:34] >> okay

[18:34] >> I it brings it back in gets it out of

[18:37] the tip brings back in yeah I'm okay

[18:40] with it

[18:42] since

[18:43] >> I figured this would be the easiest one

[18:44] right

[18:47] nothing [laughter] so Yeah, that's just

[18:50] sitting there doing nothing. So

[18:52] frustrating.

[18:53] >> Any further discussions on that

[18:55] questions?

[18:57] >> Okay, so um we'll need a motion to

[18:59] approve PC2608.

[19:02] Motion made by Wayne.

[19:04] >> I'll second it.

[19:05] >> Second by Harold. Any further

[19:06] discussion?

[19:08] All in favor say I. I.

[19:10] >> Any opposed? Okay. Passes unanimously.

[19:14] >> Thank you all. I appreciate your

[19:15] >> Thank you. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. What

[19:17] are these?

[19:18] >> That was for the overall

[19:20] >> first. Yes. For the first one for the

[19:23] original 05 resolution,

[19:27] >> Shadow Lakes, the Charles Town. Um,

[19:32] so this was

[19:34] >> So did we kill a bunch of this area?

[19:36] >> So some of this was removed. Yes, sir.

[19:39] >> So went from here to there. This was the

[19:42] part of the uh 700 res that was

[19:47] >> okay.

[19:52] I got

[19:53] >> yell at me.

[19:58] » I'm just trying to make sure I

[19:59] appreciate you doing your duty. Doing

[20:01] your duty.

[20:02] >> Anything else?

[20:03] >> Thank you all very much. I appreciate

[20:05] it. Thank you. I do want to mention the

[20:07] very last um item on the agenda uh which

[20:11] says hand out draft agency policies and

[20:14] procedures. We're not voting on that

[20:16] tonight. That is just for us to review.

[20:18] I think we will be voting on it at the

[20:20] next.

[20:21] >> Are they in here? It is. It's at the

[20:23] very It was in the very back of the

[20:24] packet. It's like this rules and

[20:26] procedures.

[20:27] >> It's about the last seven or eight

[20:29] pages, I believe. Okay. I'll

[20:31] >> check it out. Hey, anything else?

[20:36] All right. Good. All right. Uh, need a

[20:39] motion to adjurnn.

[20:41] >> Motion to adjurnn.

[20:42] >> Motion made by Shane.

[20:44] >> Second.

[20:45] by Wayne. All in favor say I.

[20:47] >> I.

[20:48] We are adjourned.

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