[0:03] To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic it stands

[0:09] one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. If you will

[0:16] please remain Lord we thank you for this day and all

[0:19] the blessings you give us this meeting and guiding decisions made. We thank you

[0:23] so much for your mercy, your grace and your love. Jesus name I ask it. Thank

[0:27] you.

[0:44] It is uh 5:00 p.m. We will call the meeting to order.

[0:49] We'll start off the roll call. District one here.

[0:53] » District two here. >> District three here.

[0:56] » District four here. All >> present.

[1:00] Approve on the nice agenda. I'll make a motion. Second motion by Wayne, second

[1:06] by Tom. Any discussion? All in favor?

[1:10] » I posted opposed.

[1:16] Approval of the minutes for the August 25th, 2026 meeting.

[1:22] » Motion. Second. Motion made by Dane. Second by

[1:27] Wayne. Any discussion? All in favor?

[1:32] » I. >> Any opposed?

[1:35] None opposed.

[1:39] We will now open the uh pull up the constituent comments. We've had uh three

[1:45] signed to speak this evening. Miss George Gish.

[1:49] » You don't know who that is. Judy. >> Is that Judy? Did he? I never seen any

[1:53] real name. Uhoh.

[2:06] » I'm gonna make y'all come around here. Look at me.

[2:13] » What are you going to stop? >> I don't know yet. You just have to wait

[2:16] and see.

[2:22] » I know. Um,

[2:27] » you all know why we're here. I just want to play something for you.

[2:31] » Covering the data center debate in Metro Detroit for nearly a year now, but there

[2:35] are still few local examples of what it's like when they're up and running.

[2:39] One of the most common areas of concern I hear about is the noise that they

[2:43] could admit. But one community in southwestern Michigan has been

[2:47] experiencing the reality of a data center next door for a couple of years

[2:51] now. and they say that sound has changed their lives.

[2:58] » What would you say to people who've never experienced this for themselves?

[3:01] » So, it's like someone set up a vacuum like in your living room and the vacuum

[3:06] is just it that thing needs to be cleaned. Like it is the filter is

[3:09] clogged up so it's a high pitch whining and they just left it on and walked out.

[3:16] You've seen movies and stuff where they have somebody in a cell torture with a

[3:23] sound [clears throat] and that's basically what it is.

[3:29] Venuela and Marjorie Billy Finn are neighbors who all live directly across

[3:33] the street from a data center in Dwajek, Michigan. The data center is known by

[3:38] residents as Hyperscale Data. It is owned by Alliance Cloud Services LLC, a

[3:44] company based in Las Vegas, Nevada. They tell me that for the past couple of

[3:49] years, it has been emitting a high-pitched sound 24 hours a day, 7

[3:54] days a week. But it wasn't always like this. Archery tells me the house has

[3:59] been in her family for nearly 100 years. >> I love this house because it has so much

[4:04] feel of my past. All our friends are here. all our support systems here.

[4:09] » They explained to me that life on their dead end street avenue was mostly quiet

[4:14] and peaceful even though for decades there had always been an industrial

[4:18] building across the street behind a row of white trees. They say in 2018 things

[4:24] began to change drastically. The trees came out, a looping dock went in, and

[4:29] around 2021 a cryptocurrency mining operation began. In 2024, they say the

[4:36] noise from the building began around the clock.

[4:41] » How would you characterize life on your street before the data center and after?

[4:47] As different as night and day to me, even if it's cooler out, we can't open

[4:51] our windows like we used to. It's just amazing how much has changed

[4:58] our life. In March, Dwax city leaders adopted the first ever industrial noise

[5:03] ordinance for the city. It sets a daytime decel limit of 65 and a

[5:08] nighttime limit of 55. According to the city manager, they find Hypers scale

[5:13] data for violating the ordinance. Hypers scale is challenging the city's readings

[5:18] and methodology. For months, Hypers scale data has been touting plans for

[5:23] expansion despite city leaders saying they were left in the dark and that no

[5:27] expansion permits had been submitted. Last week, at the invitation of Dwajek's

[5:32] mayor, the CEO of Hypers Scale Data, Lillian Horn, spoke directly to city

[5:37] residents at a special council meeting. Horn explained that the company plans to

[5:42] invest $100 million to expand AI computing and advanced robotics at the

[5:47] facility and pivot away from cryptocurrency mining. He also said they

[5:52] would make multiple efforts to reduce sound levels and for residents of Rup

[5:56] Avenue. >> If they still aren't happy and feeling

[6:00] their home is enjoyable, then we'll buy their property from them.

[6:05] » Dozens of residents spoke out passionately at the meeting. None in

[6:10] support of hypers scale. Why didn't you consider the residents when the loud the

[6:13] noise continued to get louder and louder and louder?

[6:23] » I wanted to know more about what the science says when it comes to data

[6:26] center sound. So I reached out to Rick Nitel, professor of environmental health

[6:31] sciences at the University of Michigan. When it comes to these data centers

[6:35] being built all around our area and around the country, are you concerned

[6:38] when it comes to sound? >> I am. This is kind of an unprecedented

[6:43] new noise source that's being introduced into a lot of communities. We now know

[6:47] pretty definitively that noise in communities at high enough levels is

[6:51] associated with things like high blood pressure, heart attacks, stroke. Lindy

[6:56] Valenuela explained to me why she's now a plaintiff in [clears throat] a

[7:00] firstofits-kind class action lawsuit over allegations of excessive noise from

[7:05] the data center. The fan noise just exceeds such a level to where we can't

[7:10] even enjoy being outside for more than a few minutes without either of us getting

[7:13] a headache. >> She's currently pregnant and has a

[7:16] 17-month-old boy. >> His nursery is on the side of the house

[7:20] that faces the data center. When we're putting him down for bed at night, you

[7:24] can hear the fans coming in through the window. You can hear it in his crib. And

[7:29] that just that worries me. >> Laura Sheets is a partner at Little

[7:32] Sheets and Lindy's attorney in the case. >> They don't have the right to cause a

[7:38] substantial interference with your use and enjoyment of your property. This

[7:41] data center is their neighbor. Um whether they're happy about that or not.

[7:45] But >> so my comments

[7:50] are, have you all ever listened to a video to hear how loud the data sends

[7:55] are? You have. Have you? >> Have you?

[7:59] » No. >> Have you, Travis?

[8:02] » Okay. So, you know, we're all natives. We look out for each other. You all

[8:09] represent us. So, since we don't have planning and zoning, and you all have

[8:13] heard this a thousand times, but if you don't do something, this can sneak right

[8:18] in your back door. If you're looking for money, do get a slaughter house, you

[8:23] know, in a packaging plant, you know, call the, you know, the cattleman's

[8:27] association, call somebody to, you know, if you, if you're looking for money in

[8:31] the county, you know, to start a business, but this is not a business.

[8:35] This is annoyance. Who would want to have to sell their farm after they've

[8:39] owned it for a hundred years? Any of you all, you all own land? I know you own

[8:43] land. Who would want to have to do that? This is not like ordering a meal and my

[8:49] steak's not done. And you send it back to the chef and they try to fix it, send

[8:53] it back to you. You can't send this back. It's there. It's there to stay

[8:58] until you put something in place to slow this down so more research can be done.

[9:04] So once this is out of the box and it's here, it is here. So I'm ask all of you

[9:10] all magistrates to please get together try to form a plan if it's a mortorium

[9:18] which you know anything we've talked about mortoriums are the best thing to

[9:22] start. You know that gives you a little time to do a little more research

[9:27] because nobody and and if they want to buy your Oh yeah, they'll buy your

[9:30] property. Yeah. But at what value? And then where you going to go? going to

[9:33] leave your family, your friends, your grandchildren, you know. Well, I don't

[9:38] think that's right. And I don't and I hope none of you all think that's right

[9:42] to to put people in that position. So, I want you to think long and hard about

[9:46] trying to do a mortorium against this to at least give us time. Okay.

[9:52] » Thank you, D. >> Thank you,

[9:58] Miss Susan.

[10:04] Hi you all. Um my name is Suzanne Ro and um I noticed that a lot of the things

[10:10] that I'm going to say this evening have already been said, but I'm really hoping

[10:14] that that kind of reiterates how important it is to the community. Um I

[10:19] moved to Owen County in 2019 and I chose to move here. Um I'm a homeowner. I'm a

[10:27] taxpayer and I'm one of the members of a newly organized group of community

[10:33] members that are concerned about data centers and our concerns are growing and

[10:39] our numbers are growing. It was on July the 11th that Glenn Mans

[10:45] asked for a moratorum on the development of data centers. It's been two months

[10:50] since that meeting. I am once again asking you to pass a 12month moratorum

[10:58] until we can learn more about these negative quality of life issues such as

[11:05] noise and light pollution and rising utility cost for residents.

[11:12] I am asking you to please protect your constituents from pie in the sky

[11:19] promises of riches. It is my firm belief that there is a lack transparency across

[11:27] the country and Kentucky about the development of these data centers for a

[11:32] reason. As the old adage goes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably

[11:39] is. Let's learn more before making an

[11:44] irreversible mistake. Thanks. >> Thank you, Mr. Thank you,

[11:50] [clears throat] Mr. Lauren.

[11:57] » My name is Lauren Ke. I've lived here for 30 years. I'll do like me here. I'll

[12:02] introduce myself. I work with Community Action,

[12:06] a lot of different organizations. I love my community.

[12:10] And I did a Google survey that I shared with Todd, but I put it back out again

[12:17] and I had se I had 73 responses. So based on the surveillary responses in

[12:24] this spreadsheet, there's a summary of 73 total responses regarding the data

[12:29] proposed data center in Owen County. The overall set in the vast majority of

[12:33] responders are will meet against the project. Remember, it's only 73. It's

[12:38] only a little tiny screenshot of how people feel, but it and it was just

[12:44] shared on Facebook. So, uh 64 of the 73 said no of being in favor of a data

[12:51] center being built. Only five respondents responded yes, while the

[12:56] remaining said maybe. And they need more information. And I think we all need

[13:00] more information. The primary concerns uh respondents

[13:05] showed high levels of concern across all environmental and infrastructural

[13:09] impact. 67 of them was worried about the raising

[13:13] their electric bill. 63 feared power outages a strain on the local grid. 63

[13:19] of the 73 concerned about this facility consuming

[13:24] large quantities of water or affecting if they had wellwaters. I don't know how

[13:28] many people in Owen County have wellwaters, but I'm from the mountains

[13:32] and the people down there in the mountains in the coal fields that have

[13:35] whales. Like my aunt has a whale and I think she her and her daughter have

[13:39] lupus and my opinion is when you're drilling down through and there's coal

[13:43] mines and they leave their equipment in coal mine. I would say part of their

[13:48] problem is maybe from that and and a lot of things are you know can

[13:54] be about. So back to this, the quality of life 61s feel that a large industrial

[14:00] warehouse conflicts with the Owen County farmland and rural way of life. 59 are

[14:06] concerned about the constant humming and the bright security light. When asked

[14:11] about the claims of high paying job tech jobs versus the reality of few low

[14:16] permanent jobs, 46 were concerned indicating spectacus as a belief that

[14:21] the jobs will be few and 15 responded maybe and 12 responded no. And local

[14:29] government and community action not this but community action not me.

[14:34] There is a strong demand for transparency of the 68 responses stating

[14:40] they would be upset if a local official discussed or signed agreements behind

[14:44] closed doors without public input. 54 respondents said they would sign a

[14:50] petition, attend a physical court meeting or join a group to demand a

[14:55] mtorium. Might have said that wrong. So planning and zoning and and this

[15:01] surprised me. So opinions on implementing planning and zoning 32 said

[15:07] yes, 23 said maybe and only 18 said no. So maybe that's something we can explore

[15:15] like to have planning and zonings like maybe the all those people who are just

[15:20] against it. Maybe it would work. And overall, the data paints a picture of a

[15:26] community that is highly concerned about the infrastructure, environmental, and

[15:30] cultural impacts of the data of a data center and are willing to take civic

[15:34] action to oppose it. And I also would like to say I work at Itron. Hosea

[15:41] Todd Hosea owns the building. Todd Hosea has signed a non-disclosure agreement

[15:47] and this is from a supervisor of mine. And if he is they have are the buyers

[15:52] are approaching the state for what did I say it was incentives

[15:58] » incentives >> for state incentives. So, they're

[16:01] approaching, I don't know what they're putting, of course, but they're

[16:04] approaching the state for incentives, whatever they are. And Todd Hosea told

[16:11] one of my supervisors that he don't think it's going to pass, but Todd Hosea

[16:15] is a a good salesman. So, I mean, I don't know. And this all happened. I've

[16:19] been out of work. I'm on medical leave from work, but this happened Thursday

[16:24] while I was out. So, I mean, something is going on. I don't know what's going

[16:28] on, but I mean, I just care about our families. I care about our children. I

[16:34] care about our future. I know. Do y'all all have grandchildren?

[16:39] You know, I mean, I just want want things to be good for us. And I know

[16:44] that we ain't got a lot, but we got to we got to be picky about what we do

[16:48] have. And that's just my opinion. But I appreciate.

[16:54] » Thank you. Thank you.

[17:02] Thank you everyone. Next we have uh this group confront we came and met with the

[17:07] uh chamber here locally and they asked if they could come and speak and it's

[17:12] the resource environmental solutions res and I invite them to do their

[17:19] please.

[17:22] [clears throat] Well, good afternoon, good evening,

[17:25] gentlemen. It sounds like we uh we came to the right meeting because we've got

[17:29] some discussions on data centers, which is great. Um, we're actually here, my

[17:34] name is Indicott Parks. I'm a professional wetland scientist by

[17:37] lensure, but I run our client solutions group in the in our region here, which

[17:42] can cover covers Kentucky, Virginia, and Maryland, DC, and Delaware for our

[17:46] company. Uh but we're actually here to present to you guys tonight uh we're the

[17:51] nation's largest uh nature-based solutions company. Uh so all things

[17:56] green infrastructure, if you think streams, wetlands, flood planes, that's

[17:59] what we do. Um, so we're here actually to speak a little bit to what the

[18:04] company does as a whole, but then also uh the impacts that data centers could

[18:09] have on the the county and the community and how we can combat that and bring

[18:15] some extra green incentives to projects or capital that may end up being

[18:20] invested in the county. So that's myself. I'll let Neil introduce himself

[18:24] real quick. >> I'm Neil Bethles. I'm also a

[18:26] professional weapon scientist. I'm a state business manager here in uh in

[18:31] Kentucky, offices in Louisville, and we also have an office in Frankfurt County

[18:36] local uh residents. >> Yeah. So, again, it sounds like there's

[18:41] plenty of community discussion going on around data centers, which I think is

[18:44] great. Uh we're we've talked to can say in upwards of eight to 10 counties

[18:50] throughout Kentucky in the past month and a half and this conversation has

[18:55] come up almost every single time. Uh which I think is good. We all need to

[18:59] get informed. We all need to be aware of what's coming and understand the pros,

[19:03] the cons, and a lot of the uh I think we're all trying to get educated at the

[19:08] same time. So coming from our stance specifically, we've been asked by the

[19:14] community side of things, the public, so like your economic development side of

[19:18] things who are approaching these and trying to figure out how to ride this

[19:22] fine line of wanting to see growth and and significant investment in the

[19:26] community versus how to do it reasonably as well as from the private sector on

[19:32] the data center side of things. So three different approaches here. We're seeing

[19:37] significant capital coming from the data center side a lot. It's it's on the

[19:42] proactive and the reactive side. So we've seen them where they come to a

[19:47] community whether it's been behind closed doors, NDA, stuff like that. It

[19:51] gets out public saying, "Hey, this is what we want to do." And then we see

[19:54] significant push back. We've also seen quite the opposite now where these

[19:59] companies are learning, hey, we can't just do all this stuff behind closed

[20:03] doors and expect a good outcome and and no uh and no backlash when things go

[20:08] public. Um so we're seeing it from both sides. Again, from our point of view,

[20:14] we're trying to provide ecological uplift throughout any kind of

[20:18] development that happens. So we do restoration, stream and wetland

[20:22] restoration, onetoone in kind mitigation, flood plane restoration. Um,

[20:28] and so when these county when these com these businesses come to town and take

[20:32] impacts, let's say they take impacts on a farm or whatnot, we often set up banks

[20:38] or whatnot to offset the wetland and stream impacts that they may have. So

[20:43] again, that ecosystem uplift happens. Uh but again tonight talking about

[20:49] specifically what you guys can do to position yourselves as a community for

[20:55] these data centers coming to town. There is uh significant conversations in

[21:01] capital investment that these folks can bring to see not only gray

[21:05] infrastructure whether it be public library, swimming pools, stuff like

[21:09] that, but my side of the world, the green side of seeing, hey, like

[21:13] significant stream restoration or flood plane restoration to help with flooding,

[21:19] whether it's in town, out of town, however it may be, even at from a water

[21:23] shale, a water shed scale. Sorry guys. All the way down to like a specific

[21:29] stream. Um so the types of projects that we can do u there's different things

[21:36] from volutric water. So I know we had discussions about the the water usage of

[21:41] these data centers and and not really again not knowing what's what's

[21:45] happening whether they're greenwashing stuff like that. It's just we're

[21:48] learning a lot as we go. And I think these data centers are also getting keep

[21:52] me check on time too, but um we're also learning more that these data centers

[21:57] are are actually figuring out how to use a lot less water andor completely

[22:02] self-contained. There's also new technology going into like optical

[22:06] chips, stuff that's way over my head uh to reduce the heat, therefore using less

[22:11] water, yada yada yada. But all in all, at the end of it, they're still bringing

[22:16] capital to communities to see projects that are beneficial. So RES can do again

[22:24] like we were talking about, but specific if it's educational pieces, parks,

[22:29] pollinator gardens, things of that nature, we've seen those uh be

[22:33] successful. So again, you're you're helping the the the community on you

[22:39] guys are surrounded by natural resources. is I'm an outdoorsman, a

[22:41] conservationist by heart. So like I care about it as well. So seeing the next

[22:45] generation have the ability to learn and be educated through those programs,

[22:50] options like that. Um I've even seen data centers come to a site to do a

[22:57] restoration project. Let's say something does happen here and then

[23:01] we're able to restore an off-site stream on a local farm or whatnot. There's even

[23:05] been instances, I think, of equipment being worked into the deal to help that

[23:10] farmer then maintain what whatever it is, whether it's cattle fencing or or

[23:15] stuff like that to reduce sediment um down street. So,

[23:19] » anything you want to add? >> I was just going to mention a specific

[23:23] project we work on. It's called Richard's uh property mitigation bank.

[23:26] It's in Scott County, just over the way. Um if it's on 75 acres, it's owned by

[23:32] the Nature Conservancy. It's near city and um we basically restored Eagle Creek

[23:38] whed about 15,000 uh linear feet of stream that was uh impacted from you

[23:45] know past agricultural channelization and riparian port corridor de

[23:49] deforestation um and grazing and things like that. So

[23:53] uh that's what resz did. We basically came in and restored 15,045 linear feet

[23:57] of degraded headwater intermittent and ephemeral streams and um and that helped

[24:04] um and and we repaired the riparian coral planted trees and things like that

[24:08] along there which helped out like the uh Indiana bat and the northern longard bat

[24:13] habitat and there was also a significant amount of muscles I think about like 20

[24:17] muscles in the in the stream down through there and obviously the uh

[24:20] protection of the area and erosion protection definitely help. So that's

[24:25] kind of a specific project that we worked on. You're right.

[24:27] » Yes. So again, RES's stance I think is resource environmental solutions re our

[24:32] stance is neither here nor there. We just want to see uh as development

[24:37] happens the mitigation and the restoration happen at the same time in a

[24:42] beneficial and positive way. So we stand >> with any industry right not necessarily

[24:47] data center >> correct completely across industrial

[24:50] commercial we hit it all. Just again, I think that the hyper the data center

[24:54] hyperscaler talk is is something that's hitting home for you guys right now in

[24:58] regards to growth. Again, if we were in a metropolitan area, we might be talking

[25:02] about commercial real estate or industrial, even higher education,

[25:06] things like that. It all it all comes down to the give and the take. If you're

[25:11] going to take wetlands and streams, we're here to help make sure that those

[25:14] are replaced and in a functioning way.

[25:20] that again if we can be of any answer like questions or anything like that in

[25:25] ter in regards to historical what we've seen what would what would it look like

[25:29] here in the future we just want to help you guys position yourselves whatever

[25:34] way you guys end up swinging and moving forward um that if you guys choose to

[25:40] entertain the option of someone coming to town like a data center andor any

[25:44] other large industrial commercial anything like that uh rez is here to

[25:50] help offset that that and and provide significant ecological uplift because

[25:56] again I think we all care about the streams that are in our backyard or the

[25:59] parks that our kids play at. Um so the give and the take. So but we wanted

[26:06] to make sure that you guys know that we're here as well as everyone in the

[26:09] room as well um to help out with that and if we can answer any questions what

[26:14] we're seeing across the region. Rez works on a nationwide scale. Uh and

[26:18] again we're we're not only hitting the the hyperscaler data centers throughout

[26:23] the country but also other large uh development projects that again need

[26:28] mitigation based on federal and state laws. Sorry.

[26:32] » Can I ask a question? Like like if something does come like you know maybe

[26:37] y'all can't do anything about it like if it's in

[26:41] is that something that the city or y'all or somebody like who would pay you who

[26:47] would help help make sure those laws and everything's that they just don't come

[26:52] and just sweep everything under the rug. Does that

[26:54] » that direct me? >> Yeah, that makes any sense. I

[26:58] » it does completely. who who's providing capital.

[27:01] » Yeah. >> And making sure that nothing's getting

[27:02] swept under the rug. So, I think am I allowed to answer this right now?

[27:07] » Yeah. Well, we're going to Yes. But if you give me just a second, what I'd like

[27:11] to do is finish out the meeting. Okay. >> And then we will open it up. That's how

[27:14] we've done in the past. That way it's the meetings continue, you know, through

[27:17] and then we when we adjourn the meeting, um that way we can actually set and we

[27:22] can all sit here all night long. That'd be great. But you know,

[27:25] » we'll be here after >> because I want I want everybody to have

[27:27] the opportunity to to speak to these guys if we can. Um, so y'all have any

[27:31] questions? >> Do you have a card with some context?

[27:34] » Yes, sir. We have a full wrap sheet on capabilities as well as cards for any

[27:38] kind of follow-up questions you guys have. Again, here to help position you

[27:42] guys and educate you guys on what a green solution to a project could look

[27:47] like. Okay. Cool. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you.

[27:58] All right, moving on to uh acceptance of reports. We have the EMA report and the

[28:02] general reports. Make that motion, judge.

[28:07] Motion made by Travis, second by Dane. Any discussion?

[28:12] All in favor? >> Any opposed?

[28:15] None opposed.

[28:20] Moving on to action items. Make a motion to untable the Kentucky

[28:25] Transportation District 6 discretionary funds. Discussion. Motion.

[28:30] Second. >> Motion made by Tom. Second by Wayne. All

[28:35] in favor? I. Any opposed? Opposed.

[28:41] This time I would ask if transportation cabinet could speak on the discretionary

[28:46] codes in which we're presenting. So if anyone doesn't know who I am, I'm

[28:52] Kim Guard. I work for highways. I work here in Owen County. I have Caroline

[28:57] County counties. Um and I'm here tonight to speak specifically about ro secondary

[29:02] roles. Um, so our last meeting we did program that

[29:09] me and my branch manager and the chief all agreed on well for about 1:30 today

[29:16] my branch manager go and said we need to take that draw. So I guess there's a

[29:21] battle brewing over the money that the legislators got say the

[29:28] guy. I can give you my opinion on that money,

[29:33] but um yeah, so if you want I'm not staying at this meeting tonight. I'm not

[29:38] staying after, but I can come to your office and speak to you if you like. So

[29:42] you can share that information. So um thinking that Hills Road over there is

[29:48] Sher's Road, which is still in my opinion valuable

[29:54] project. Anyway, um that leaves the three-year-old SW Valley, which has

[30:00] already been through 11. Um they may be going to pay that this year

[30:07] pretty soon. I'm not sure. Uh but that would move that Eden shale up next about

[30:12] 8:25. Without your flex monies, um I I'll get

[30:19] $100,000 or so over budget. Um, and if you choose to keep your flex monies, I'm

[30:26] still probably going to send that project to a letting to see what

[30:29] happens, to see where we are and see if I can get additional funds

[30:36] to cover. I don't know that's going to happen. Um,

[30:41] if you give me the money back, I for sure can get it done because we're just

[30:44] $15,000 store. I'm pretty sure my estimate is enough that that would that

[30:51] would work. And then definitely the stir ridge 3102 from the bridge to challenge

[30:58] wheels that next option. So

[31:04] the decisions that that you need to make some

[31:08] come back in a few weeks that um is so if you choose to keep them

[31:16] to keep them if you choose to give them back and give them back. So, that's

[31:21] that's all I need from you guys tonight. But I will tell you that we did we did

[31:27] some patching on 325 last week and they did

[31:32] some patching on Squaresville Road which

[31:38] um they did the opposite end that I had asked them to do while

[31:43] » Wow. That's I was all I thought I was on my vacation. Um I'm sorry I went 22 then

[31:52] I did not. So we're going to do some more

[31:55] but I don't know how much more we can do because the money is crazy budget are

[32:01] terrible. So um I do all I can do. I give you 110%

[32:08] um even though it may not look like it. do um trying to get the most I can get

[32:15] for each of the three counties. I try to be fair to all I live in but I

[32:21] try to be fair to everyone.

[32:28] I definitely appreciate your time and honest. I I just can't understand why

[32:34] I guess when roads are in more more need than than other roads that they get

[32:40] scooped over. >> Which road?

[32:42] » Well, Squaresville, you can't convince me that Squaresville isn't in worse

[32:47] shape. >> So, here's the deal on Squidersville 345

[32:51] 1883.

[32:56] Okay. So in January, March, somewhere in there, the

[33:02] legislators, Miss Rag said, I secured funding for these roles.

[33:09] Those go off my list. We have a very small amount. Even if I was going to

[33:14] expire, right now we only $400,000. It's 850,000 to pay. We can get half of it

[33:21] done and tear the other half up next year. the P part we just paid would tear

[33:27] up to pay the other one. >> But what I guess my question is if we

[33:30] did the the part that you had s suggested from the 22 side.

[33:35] » Yeah. >> And then got half of it which is

[33:39] » what is in the most need I think we all would all agree on.

[33:42] » Oh yeah. >> And then we came from the other side.

[33:45] » I can't make them come the other way. >> Okay. Okay. And that's

[33:50] right. I mean, if if it come to but if Mangle gets it, they're coming up,

[33:55] » right? >> Yeah. So, but when when they sent their

[33:59] phones and it's in the sixure plan, you can see it exactly and say they're going

[34:04] to do them. >> I can't get to that.

[34:09] » And I like I said, >> I can get you. I think they're damn,

[34:14] » but I can't get it. But here's the deal. They like the

[34:19] email. It's for federal aid grants. That's the money they got. They got

[34:23] federal money. >> So when an elected official says, "I

[34:28] secured some money to do these rural second arrows." They're not a federal.

[34:32] » So we can't use it tonight. >> But she's not going to tell you that.

[34:37] » No, she you're right. I agree. >> So I'm the one that stands up and gets

[34:42] the heat from everybody. >> And like I said, I appreciate your time.

[34:45] Yeah. >> Well, dude, I don't I got

[34:48] I got fixed in I'm going to walk out that door. I don't care what anybody

[34:55] that's just the way it is. But I give you every day. I'll promise you that.

[34:58] » I believe that. Yeah. So, but when when they say they have the money to do it,

[35:05] then I'm not going to spend what little bit of land we have to try to do those

[35:11] because on the six-year plan, it says they're

[35:15] going to do them. >> Yeah. And you had Fair View last year at

[35:19] the top business and then they said that they got that off a little bit, which I

[35:25] understand. >> Yeah. It shows we have such this budget

[35:28] if your budget I told you this last time is akin to what the 2011

[35:35] budget was. Yeah. Okay. 15 years ago, this is I know

[35:41] we had a standard asphalt 15 years ago was $45 a ton.

[35:48] Today it's $120 a ton. So, man, we're we're fighting out here

[35:56] and I I've said it for the last seven or eight years.

[36:01] We're never going to catch up. We're we're we're beyond catching up. Only 12

[36:06] second.

[36:12] » Can I ask a question in just a second? Any any other question from the floor?

[36:17] Thank you.

[36:25] So, there's going to be a a motion on this and it's going to be either there's

[36:30] three options. Uh, keep the flex bones, return the flex funds, or take it until

[36:35] next meeting. And that's the one that we most we've

[36:39] accepted.

[36:58] It seems like everybody's scared to say something. So, I'll make a motion to

[37:01] keep the flex. >> Motion made to keep the flex. Travis

[37:06] Ferro.

[37:13] Second by Dane. Any discussion? >> All in favor?

[37:22] » I don't know. Looks like with them knocking Alice off, which we didn't

[37:26] really need that done, we can get on down this list.

[37:32] You know, getting needing shale done would would be a blessing.

[37:37] and maybe a little Stewart bridge if we keep the

[37:43] 91,000. What are we going to do?

[37:48] Where it go? What are we doing?

[37:54] » They're asking me. We'll be using county roads. It' be used on county roads.

[37:59] Yeah. For resurfacing or >> I know there's a lot of water projects.

[38:03] » There is. There's a lot of little water projects going on. separate service be

[38:08] used for that

[38:13] » which all around you in the county

[38:20] just need something done. It's not in my district but it's a mandatory

[38:25] I agree. >> I just thought we'd get it done. Maybe

[38:31] that's all I got.

[38:38] Is that motion on the table for now? >> I still make a motion.

[38:44] » All right. >> So, and thank we can take a vote.

[38:47] » All right. Let's take a vote. >> I'm in favor. I

[38:51] » All in favor?

[38:56] » All opposed? Hey.

[39:10] the uh discretionary funding right now, the flex funding we have in the pool is

[39:15] roughly um without having the number directly in front of me. I get one out,

[39:20] but it's probably right around 500,000 is what's in that poll right now to be

[39:24] used for second row county res. Um, I don't know that the 91,000 is going to

[39:31] change that. Um, as far as the use of it without getting eaten shell done, which

[39:36] I think is very important. Every road is in horrible condition. So, uh, my vote

[39:40] is going to be to uh, get the funding back and focus on getting

[39:47] you know, we need another motion. >> What?

[39:53] » The motion is to keep the flex. And you got two for two.

[39:57] » Yes, that's what I'm doing. That's what Yes. Yes, that's what I was doing. Thank

[40:00] you. Thank you. So, that that is uh my vote is going to be um as you know.

[40:08] So, motion not period.

[40:13] Now, if somebody wants to make a motion again,

[40:16] » return motion. >> I'll make a motion to

[40:24] » keep

[40:28] flex. >> I second.

[40:31] » Motion made by to return the flex funds to state.

[40:35] Second by Wayne. Any further discussion on that?

[40:43] All in favor? I any

[40:47] » opposed? Two nays. Two ns. >> Two items.

[40:51] » I vote I I vote in favor. Return the flesh bones.

[40:58] » Thank you. >> No worries.

[41:01] When you approve the minutes.

[41:06] » Absolutely. Moving on to approval of the fiscal year 27

[41:11] agent service contract.

[41:17] » It's the same as it was last year.

[41:28] » Motion made by Dane. Second by Lane. Any discussion?

[41:33] All in favor? >> Any opposed?

[41:36] None opposed. Approval of Amy Green vacation time paid

[41:41] out. >> I'd make that motion.

[41:44] » Second. >> Motion made by Travis by Tom.

[41:48] Any discussion? All in favor?

[41:51] » I. >> Any opposed?

[41:55] None opposed. Approve the HR actions 27005 H8.

[42:02] » I'll make a motion. >> Second.

[42:04] » Motion made by Tom. Second by Dane. Any discussion?

[42:10] All in favor? >> Any opposed?

[42:14] No opposed. Approval of the transfers.

[42:25] » Second. >> Motion made. Second by Tom. Any

[42:28] discussion? All in favor?

[42:33] Any opposed? No oppos

[42:53] any discussion? Yeah, right here moderating they went from

[42:58] one to four to two before

[43:04] script. Did that change that bid?

[43:12] » All in favor? Any opposed?

[43:17] None opposed. Moving on to comments from county

[43:22] attorney. >> I don't have any question

[43:28] » comments from me.

[43:33] » I don't have any comments at the moment but uh after we journ I won't be

[43:37] sticking around and I would advise the rest of you if anybody wants to have any

[43:40] discussions or questions for or with me or any mag please let's do so. I'll take

[43:48] a motion to adjourn. >> Motion second.

[43:51] » Motion made by Wayne. Second by Tom. All in favor? No.

[43:55] » Thank you all.

Owen County KY Fiscal Court Meeting 9-8-26

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