[0:03] To order, start with the pledge to the flag

[0:09] pledge allegiance to the flag of

[0:11] The United States of America.

[0:13] And to the Republic For, to Spanish.

[0:16] One Nation under God individual.

[0:19] If liberty, injustice, all

[0:22] this call is no longer being recorded.

[0:26] Oh, good. We, we took care of the recording, Dennis.

[0:30] Don't worry about it. Okay. I hit the wrong.

[0:35] Alright. Home call. Laura is here.

[0:39] Uh, Dennis is with us on the phone. I'm here. April's here.

[0:44] Austin is here. Mayor is here. Tim is here.

[0:49] Uh, chief Graham is here. And Dr. Dave Fulton is here.

[0:54] So we'll, we'll do the vote

[0:56] To allow Him. Yep.

[0:57] Uh, need a motion to allow Dennis

[1:00] to join by phone.

[1:04] I make a motion. Second

[1:05] Motion by Laura, second by Austin.

[1:09] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.

[1:14] Opposed? Motion carries.

[1:18] Dennis, you're good to go. Alright. Thank you.

[1:27] Announcement of, at the September meeting,

[1:31] there was accusation of theft, uh, against

[1:35] Dr. David Bolton.

[1:37] Uh, chief Graham

[1:39] and the just district attorney have looked into that

[1:43] and I'll defer to Chief Graham, uh, for the results of

[1:48] that investigation.

[1:50] Uh, as you said, sir, during the September meeting,

[1:53] Dr. Bolton was accused of stealing money.

[1:57] Based on that accusation.

[1:59] A criminal investigation was conducted.

[2:02] People were interviewed, bank records were checked.

[2:06] There was a report done.

[2:08] It was submitted to the Adams County District Attorney's

[2:10] office for review.

[2:12] And their determination is there was no crime there at all.

[2:17] And based on that, the investigation is closed.

[2:24] Okay.

[2:30] You have, uh, judge candidate Paul

[2:33] Rohrer with us this evening.

[2:34] Would you like to say a couple words?

[2:36] Yes, sir. Thank you.

[2:38] Um, ladies and gentlemen, I know you got a full docket,

[2:41] so I'm not gonna take up a lot of time.

[2:43] Um, my name's Paul Rohr. I'm running for Judge.

[2:45] There's an open seat on the court of common.

[2:47] Please honor, judge George had that seat

[2:49] for close to 30 years.

[2:51] Mm-hmm. And he recently stepped down.

[2:53] Now he's serving part-time as well as his Judge Kon,

[2:56] who's someone you may know as well.

[2:58] Um, and they're both serving part-time

[2:59] until we can get somebody elected in November.

[3:02] So, long story short, I'm going around to every borough

[3:04] and every township, uh, board of supervisors

[3:08] between now and the election day.

[3:10] Not to campaign attorney Schul is not, I'm not trying

[3:12] to run afoul of any rules, but it is my intent

[3:14] to meet all the community leaders and put a face to a name.

[3:18] 'cause I feel like that's really important.

[3:20] 'cause I don't have to tell you all this is

[3:22] where the rubber hits the road.

[3:23] This is what makes this a great place to live,

[3:26] is this type of thing right here.

[3:28] And I'm constantly reminded of

[3:29] that every time I come to one of these.

[3:31] So if I stay on my game, I stay on track, I'm gonna get

[3:33] to all 31 I think it is by November 4th.

[3:37] Uh, long story short, um,

[3:38] my folks had a place in cash down growing up.

[3:41] And when it was time to raise our family

[3:43] and settle down a bit, my wife

[3:44] and I knew this would be a good place to do it.

[3:46] And we lived just north of Gettysburg.

[3:47] I got a daughter off of Penn State,

[3:49] and my youngest is still at Gettysburg High School.

[3:51] I've been practicing law for a little over 20 years.

[3:55] I've been in front of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court

[3:57] and I've been in front of Judge Little

[3:58] and they're both equally inquisitive.

[4:00] I can tell you. We, we, uh, we're blessed

[4:03] with good leadership in this state, by

[4:05] and large, in the primary.

[4:07] Um, we did really well.

[4:09] We got about 40% of the Republican vote,

[4:11] and my opponent didn't cross house.

[4:13] So we got a hundred percent of the Democrat vote.

[4:15] And I'm here to tell you, I'm equally

[4:17] proud of both of those numbers.

[4:18] And here's why. 'cause politics

[4:20] don't belong in our courtrooms.

[4:22] They don't belong in our courtrooms.

[4:23] They don't belong in our churches

[4:25] and they don't belong in our school boards.

[4:27] They're, it's okay to have parts of our society that

[4:32] politics don't have to be.

[4:34] It's okay. We have other values we can appeal to.

[4:38] Um, so long story short, everyone asked me, well,

[4:40] can you keep that coalition together in November?

[4:43] Can you keep your, your Rs

[4:44] and Ds from tearing each other's heads off?

[4:46] I don't know. I don't have a magic wand,

[4:49] but what I do have is I have faith.

[4:51] I have faith. 'cause those people who voted

[4:53] for me in the primary, they did it for a reason.

[4:55] And I'm pretty sure I know what that reason is.

[4:58] So, long story short, like I said, I know you've got a,

[5:00] I know you've got a full agenda

[5:02] and I don't want to campaign,

[5:03] but I did want to introduce myself.

[5:04] I'm gonna leave some of these and I hope you all keep

[5:07] an open mind in November.

[5:09] But thank you for your time and

[5:10] Doc, it's good to see you again, sir. Thank you

[5:12] Paul. Appreciate that.

[5:13]

[5:14] Smith, could you please?

[5:20] Alright. Right next is, uh,

[5:22] public comment on any action items

[5:24] of the agenda, any public

[5:32] Okay. Uh, approval of the minutes.

[5:35] We'll start with the September 18th.

[5:38] I make a motion. Second motion

[5:41] by Laura, second by April.

[5:42] Any discussion? All is in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

[5:47] Opposed? Aye. Motion carries.

[5:52] Uh, October 2nd budget workshop.

[5:56] I make a motion. Second Motion

[5:59] by Laura, second by Austin.

[6:00] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

[6:06] Opposed? Motion carries. Treasurer's reports.

[6:11] Thank you.

[6:12] Um, it's getting old.

[6:17] The borough's financial situation is very, very stable.

[6:21] It doesn't change. Um, we've, uh,

[6:26] we've got a few bills coming in, um, of note,

[6:29] uh, that I want to discuss.

[6:30] Um, the paving bill, uh, for the work done,

[6:36] uh, when Columbia Gas came in and they did the restoration

[6:40] and then we added a couple of spots to that just

[6:43] to make a little better roadway out of it.

[6:45] Um, so that came in at just under $78,000.

[6:49] Um, the invoice that I received was not itemized

[6:54] to the standard that I need it to be to use liquid fuels.

[6:59] So I, uh, reached out

[7:01] and Kinsley did provide another invoice.

[7:04] So, um, I have sent that over to our, uh,

[7:07] liquid fuels liaison to make sure

[7:09] that it has the adequate information, um,

[7:12] 'cause that'll come up in an audit.

[7:14] So, um, I have already transferred the funds from our Plait

[7:18] account into our A CMB account so

[7:22] that I can write a check out of

[7:23] that liquid fuels for that amount.

[7:26] Um, other than that, um, yeah, just,

[7:30] everything's going really well.

[7:34] All right. Need a motion to accept the finance report? I

[7:38] Make a motion. Second

[7:40] Motion by Laura, second by April.

[7:42] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.

[7:46] All opposed. Motion carries.

[7:50] Um, motion to approve. Ratify paying the bills.

[7:54] Make a motion. Motion by Laura. Second.

[7:58] Second by April. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye.

[8:03] Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

[8:07] Thank you. Uh, administrative reports.

[8:11] First item on the agenda, um, is, uh, I'm going to ask you

[8:15] to ratify the advertisement of, uh,

[8:18] the Assistant Secretary Treasurer position

[8:21] and authorize me to, uh, work with the personnel committee,

[8:25] uh, to, uh, make an offer to somebody, um,

[8:29] and get them hired prior to the next meeting.

[8:32] Uh, based on the budget, uh, qualifiers

[8:36] that we have already established for the position, you will

[8:39] of course ratify that person

[8:42] and their salary at the next meeting as well.

[8:45] Um, but everybody will, uh,

[8:48] be given the information ahead of time.

[8:50] Uh, we've got some very good candidates.

[8:54] So, um, I'm asking for the ratification of the advertisement

[8:58] and authority to move forward and higher

[9:01] I make motion.

[9:03] Aye. I'll second. Motion by Laura, second by Dennis.

[9:06] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

[9:11] A opposed? Motion carries.

[9:15] Thank you. And second

[9:20] item on the agenda.

[9:22] Um, we have been asked by United Hook

[9:24] and Ladder to be their municipal sponsor for an LSA grant

[9:29] for some new equipment.

[9:30] Uh, Dale I'll let you speak to that

[9:35] Here. Uh, basically

[9:36] this is a grant applying for, uh,

[9:40] this particular grant requires a municipal sponsor.

[9:44] It doesn't, it's not that the sponsor

[9:47] or the municipal is responsible

[9:49] for anything other than giving the blessing

[9:54] As a municipal member.

[9:55] We're basically their board.

[9:57] So, uh, we're just basically putting down that,

[9:59] that we are okay with them purchasing the equipment.

[10:02] I'll make Aion Second

[10:04] Motion by Laura second by April.

[10:07] And on this one, Dale will abstain. Yes.

[10:11] Um, so we'll get the proper paperwork for that.

[10:16] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye.

[10:21] Aye. Aye. Those opposed?

[10:26] And I am abstaining due to conflict of interest.

[10:32] Okay. Alright.

[10:33] Thank you. Uh, the next item on the agenda is to vote

[10:37] to advertise to 2026 municipal budgets.

[10:40] We had, uh, our meeting on October 2nd, uh,

[10:45] probably one of the longer meetings we've had in a long

[10:47] time, uh, for a budget.

[10:49] Um, about an hour and a half.

[10:51] Uh, we went through every line item,

[10:53] uh, questions were asked.

[10:55] Um, justifications were given

[10:58] and, uh, budget looks a lot like this.

[11:01] Year's. Um,

[11:04] we are looking at structural surplus

[11:11] of the general fund budget of $2,105

[11:16] with $392,435 in

[11:21] revenues,

[11:24] $390,330 in expenses.

[11:30] And the capital

[11:31] and liquid fuels budgets were actually multi-year budgets

[11:36] when we passed them last year.

[11:39] So they are included as addendums to this budget

[11:43] and should be re-approved as part of the package

[11:51] I to advertise.

[11:54] Alright. Motion by Laura. Second. Second by Austin.

[11:59] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.

[12:05] Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

[12:09] Thank you. Next item on the agenda is the cancellation

[12:12] of the remainder of the budget meetings for the year

[12:16] Motion by April 2nd.

[12:18] Second by Laura. Any discussion?

[12:22] All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye.

[12:26] Motion carries.

[12:28] Thank you. Aye.

[12:30] Next item your consideration. Lemme get some paper out here.

[12:38] So we had put out RFPs for snowplowing services

[12:43] after the Burwick contract was terminated

[12:47] and we did not receive, um,

[12:52] any until yesterday.

[12:59] Um, so I am going to,

[13:03] um, let's see.

[13:10] So we're gonna vote on this.

[13:11] Well, we can vote on it now I guess

[13:14] 'cause we didn't get anything since September 15th.

[13:19] So we are currently without services if it's snows tomorrow.

[13:23] Um, that being said, um, it's up to council

[13:28] to vote on this one whether they want to accept it or not.

[13:32] Uh, if not, I'll continue looking.

[13:34] Uh, so it was submitted by Tom Chu paving

[13:37] and excavating, um, plow trucks,

[13:42] 1 75 an hour, two to three trucks,

[13:46] uh, to cover.

[13:47] That's pretty much what Burwick and Beaver covered for us.

[13:52] Hit run Plow trucks with Beaver, I believe cost 2 25.

[13:57] Um, salting spread. Uh, that's 2 25 a ton.

[14:02] That is considerably more than

[14:04] what we were getting from Berwick.

[14:06] It is in line with what we were seeing with Beaver.

[14:10] Um, and then if there's a huge storm

[14:15] and extra equipment has to be brought in, um,

[14:18] they will call me, get authorization,

[14:20] and then of course we'd pick up those extra costs for that.

[14:25] Um, and they

[14:29] have their insurance and everything submitted.

[14:31] So I do have that.

[14:36] How much nip long have they done?

[14:41] Some I didn't ask how many.

[14:43] I didn't ask for a reference list.

[14:46] We had already had a, a working relationship

[14:48] with the pair trucks, so I didn't,

[14:49] yeah, I didn't really go. Yeah,

[14:51] I'm just Curious. Yeah.

[14:52] You know how much snow plowing they've done. Right?

[14:54] I don't want somebody coming in

[14:56] and all of a sudden they

[14:57] really don't know what they're doing.

[14:58] Well, they said they do want to, um,

[15:00] have somebody take 'em around the borough.

[15:02] And of course that's customary, that's with everybody right.

[15:05] To have them go around. But Tom grew up in town,

[15:08] he said he's pretty sure he knows where to

[15:11] where to put the snow.

[15:16] And it is important if you whoever takes him around just

[15:19] to make notes of what the streets are like.

[15:21] So I figured maybe Chief

[15:23] or Bailey would be the best options.

[15:26] Take him around. I know the mayor had done it previously,

[15:28] but I know you're busy during the day. So,

[15:31] I mean, as far as damage and stuff, just

[15:33] To see. And, and then we also

[15:34] have a map that we give them so

[15:36] that they know what streets

[15:38] or streets and which ones aren't.

[15:42] We have a few of those.

[15:46] And this is for a year?

[15:48] This would be through this season. So it's 25, 26. Okay.

[15:53] Yeah, generally when we were doing the them previously

[15:57] we were starting them

[15:59] and then they were going through to the following year.

[16:02] Uh, the only time we didn't do that, I believe,

[16:06] no, I'm wrong.

[16:08] We were doing it for the whole year.

[16:10] So the council's gonna have

[16:11] to revisit this again in January.

[16:15] Okay. Because that's, we, yes,

[16:20] there was always a split and that's why we had a problem.

[16:22] Because if you remember previously we had somebody else, uh,

[16:27] beat beaver's bid beep.

[16:29] Beaver's bid. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

[16:32] I'm not, I'm not saying that fast.

[16:35] And, and, and so that guy was supposed to start in January,

[16:39] but he ended up coming in in November

[16:41] and then we had two guys in here

[16:42] and I told him he didn't start till January.

[16:46] I Remember that. So yes.

[16:47] So yes, it is, it is only till the end of this year in,

[16:50] at the reorganization meeting, you guys are gonna have

[16:53] to say whether or not you want to continue

[16:56] or if you wanna look somewhere else.

[16:57] Okay. So you can almost take it as a interim.

[17:01] I sort of thought we maybe did it like

[17:04] later on in the year

[17:05] through the year to get us through the winter.

[17:07] So we didn't have this problem this time of year.

[17:09] No. What we usually did was we would advertise it out in

[17:12] the fall and then we would set it up so that in January

[17:17] it was on your agenda to accept.

[17:19] Okay.

[17:22] I make a motion. Then we accept it.

[17:23] 'cause we need something. If we get snow in November

[17:26] or December, we're just

[17:28] Laura, you can do it.

[17:30] Budget can do it.

[17:32] Do what? Second.

[17:35] All right. We have a motion by Laura second by April

[17:37] to approve, uh, parrot chuck

[17:41] as our snowplowing contractor.

[17:44] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye.

[17:49] Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

[17:55] Thank you. Uh, the next item I have on the agenda

[17:59] finally is to vote on the, uh,

[18:02] sewer authorities improvement plan through the rec park.

[18:05] Uh, if you remember about two months ago, we went over this,

[18:09] uh, there were some, uh, notations,

[18:12] I believe Mr. Schultz has provided.

[18:14] Um, so those were put into a new agreement.

[18:18] I did receive that as of this morning.

[18:21] Uh, or else I'd tell you to postpone it.

[18:25] Uh, we're gonna put

[18:31] Oh, the, the ones with the signature page.

[18:33] Sorry. Um,

[18:38] so everything looked good there?

[18:39] I don't Did you get the chance?

[18:40] I, I did. Okay. I did see it.

[18:41] Are Are you good with it?

[18:44] Um, they,

[18:45] they took the notation about the trees out as you saw.

[18:49] So, so what, what was explained about that?

[18:53] Um, and I did talk to Laura about that, was some

[18:56] of those trees are not part of our agreement for the park.

[19:01] They were just kind of put in there. Right.

[19:03] Um, we are looking at possibly transplanting some of those

[19:08] during this so that they just don't die.

[19:11] Um, and any of them that aren't transplanted,

[19:14] then value will be calculated

[19:16] and they'll help us with escaping. Yeah. Yeah.

[19:18] But if it's not in the agreement, then

[19:20] they don't have to do it.

[19:23] They, They would also only put trees in,

[19:25] they wouldn't put bushes or flowers in.

[19:28] There's no bushes or flowers.

[19:29] I know, but if you wanted them.

[19:31] No, I wanna make sure that whatever trees

[19:34] that get destroyed get replaced.

[19:36] And if it's not in that, then that's saying

[19:41] that they can say, well, it wasn't in the agreement.

[19:47] That's fair.

[19:54] I didn't instruct them to take it out.

[19:56] Yeah. Well that's how they get away with

[19:58] It. I was, I was

[19:59] informed and, and I relayed the information.

[20:03] So the, the language now, uh, about that used

[20:08] to the language, the paragraph that had the trees, that is,

[20:11] that they were, they were gonna take out all of the trees.

[20:14] It says the grantee, which is, is the sewer authority,

[20:19] shall repair and restore the surface

[20:22] features within the easement

[20:23] to a condition substantially similar, uh, to

[20:26] that which existed immediately

[20:29] Before. Before.

[20:30] So I think if we identify the trees

[20:32] that are likely to be taken out, um,

[20:36] obviously they don't want you

[20:38] to plant trees in the right of way.

[20:40] Well, we never knew where the right of way was.

[20:42] Well, well now, now we do. Yeah.

[20:45] So the idea is not to plant those

[20:49] plant trees in the right of way anyway.

[20:51] So the number of trees that are going to be taken out

[20:55] that you can't, that you're not gonna transplant now,

[21:00] uh, you know, I I think the idea is that they're going to

[21:04] essentially pay for that.

[21:06] Right. Either they have to restore it

[21:09] or they have to somehow pay for it.

[21:12] They just can't put the trees back over top

[21:14] of the affected area because of the root systems going down.

[21:17] Oh, I understand that.

[21:19] So that's why it was like, well, you know,

[21:22] they're not gonna replace those

[21:24] 'cause those aren't going there.

[21:26] That's how it was explained to me.

[21:29] But is there anything that states in there

[21:31] That we, they're, they're gonna put the ground features

[21:33] back to a similar,

[21:36] so the tree might not be here, it might be over here.

[21:39] Or if a tree isn't possible,

[21:41] they could put a bush in or something else.

[21:47] But that would be have to be

[21:48] Coordinated. I would like

[21:49] to have them mark off where they're gonna go.

[21:53] There's a map here. It's just the very I've seen that

[21:57] I want, I want Okay.

[22:01] Physical flags put into where they're going

[22:03] so I know exactly where that line is going.

[22:08] Okay.

[22:14] And then we can decide We can get that

[22:16] Done. What to do.

[22:17] Yep. With the trees. Yeah.

[22:20] What trees they are to know where to put them.

[22:23] And I don't even think it's

[22:24] that many to be honest with you.

[22:25] I don't think so. It's, it's the very edge of that,

[22:29] you know, like along that stream area.

[22:33] Well that's what I kind of figured

[22:35] Because 'cause the roadway goes down, all

[22:39] They have to do is put two flags

[22:40] where they're gonna start and two flags at the end.

[22:42] Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Yep.

[22:43] We'll get it done and I'll go down and look at it

[22:45] and, okay.

[22:46] See what has to be done. Okay.

[22:49] We'll get that done. Yep. A good idea, Laura.

[22:53] So we gotta vote the table for now, question mark.

[23:00] But they are gonna restore mm-hmm.

[23:02] That's still in there, right? Mm-hmm.

[23:04] That they will restore that area.

[23:06] Okay. I'm fine.

[23:10] And Amy assured me it will be taken care of.

[23:12] Okay. I make a motion.

[23:18] Second. Okay. We have motion by Laura. Second.

[23:22] Second by Austin. Any discussion?

[23:28] All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

[23:32] Motion carries.

[23:34] Thank you. All right.

[23:38] And let me see if I have anything else for you.

[23:42] I might, as I might as well do the correspondences.

[23:45] Um, this way I can be quiet.

[23:48] The rest of the meeting, um, as you know,

[23:50] with Veronica leaving and Hannah leaving,

[23:53] we are down the two signers on the account.

[23:56] Um, and if one of us don't sign, we don't sign

[23:59] checks don't go out.

[24:01] So at some point, and,

[24:03] and it's not on the agenda tonight, um, counsel needs

[24:07] to decide who's going to be, uh, the,

[24:10] the other counsel signer.

[24:12] And then whoever gets hired will also be a signer.

[24:17] So I can't do anything until that person gets hired anyway.

[24:21] 'cause no sense doing this twice. Well,

[24:23] Who do you have now? You

[24:24] It's just Dale and I And if one

[24:28] of us don't sign, I thought Laura, I

[24:29] Thought Laura was on it.

[24:31] It was until Hannah took

[24:33] Over. No, Hannah, Hannah

[24:34] took it. Oh.

[24:36] I'll do it until December 31st.

[24:40] Okay. If You guys want me to do it.

[24:43] Well, it'd be easy because they,

[24:45] they already have your information.

[24:46] Yeah. We just have to do another That was a previous sign

[24:49] resolution at the next meeting.

[24:50] Yeah,

[24:52] I'll do it till the end of the year.

[24:55] Okay. That was easy.

[24:59] Okay, So I'll put

[25:01] that on the back burner for next month.

[25:03] Um, liquid fuels notification

[25:08] for next year came in, uh, after we had our budget meeting.

[25:12] And they are allocating $32,006

[25:17] 53 cents.

[25:18] We budgeted 30,000.

[25:20] So we're in, um, Adams County,

[25:25] uh, community Foundation, uh, sent a community report.

[25:30] Uh, so that is available for anybody

[25:31] that wants to look at it.

[25:33] We received a thank you card from the, uh,

[25:37] Adams County SBCA for our a thousand dollars donation.

[25:49] You don't need that one.

[25:56] Um, oh, MedEd, uh, is coming through, uh, the park.

[26:04] Um, so, so MedEd is replacing the lines in the park,

[26:07] uh, the overhead.

[26:09] And they've gotta replace some of the poles.

[26:10] Now the problem was they

[26:15] couldn't access those poles

[26:16] because we had a spring coming up through the ground

[26:19] that we discovered earlier this year.

[26:21] Right. That, that was flooding out the park and you know.

[26:24] Right. Well, it's not a spring folks.

[26:28] It was, it was a waterline.

[26:30] And, uh, nobody knew it was there

[26:32] until they marked it the other day.

[26:34] And, uh, so yeah, it's, we now no longer have a stream.

[26:39] So you're telling me that's just been an open main water.

[26:41] It's been an open main the whole time.

[26:43] And what I would like to know from those of you, of you

[26:46] who go to the meetings, I would like to know

[26:50] how they did not know that

[26:53] that water was leaking all this time. They

[26:56] Should have a kind of water

[26:57] somewhere. You would think their

[26:59] Building wouldn't match up their

[27:00] Output, I think.

[27:01] But you think that we're paying for all the chemicals

[27:04] and stuff to purify that water

[27:06] and all that water went into the park

[27:08] to make a lot of trouble for us.

[27:10] Mm-hmm. So I would like to know

[27:13] why they didn't know it was leaking.

[27:16] Because there's gotta be a big discrepancy between

[27:19] what water they were putting out

[27:21] and what water the meters were saying they had.

[27:24] And that's not right. There's gotta be a big discrepancy.

[27:28] Where, what, where's

[27:30] This line Down that way?

[27:33] Straight down through there. High.

[27:34] Like where the fountain was. High street.

[27:36] Yep. All the way up here.

[27:38] No, that's an on meters

[27:40] Leak. I think it's

[27:41] pretty tough. Yes. I don't know that.

[27:44] I mean, they, the only place they can really meter that

[27:46] is going into the tower and out the tower area probably.

[27:49] And that tower feeds correct? Correct.

[27:52] But where do you start? Every place they

[27:53] are in Adams County.

[27:55] Yeah. But there's gotta be a way.

[27:57] I know other towns know how much water's going out,

[28:00] how much water's on the meters.

[28:02] Right. There's gotta be a way to know at least some of it.

[28:06] 'cause that's been going on for a while.

[28:09] That's a lot of water. Yeah.

[28:11] But it's spread out over a huge area.

[28:13] So is that fixed now? Even West Manheim Township

[28:17] is getting fed from this town. I 24 hours race.

[28:20] Okay. But still, that's a lot of

[28:22] Water getting fed from this cleaning.

[28:25] So when are they gonna do this? Know? From previous,

[28:30] That's what I'm saying.

[28:31] There's gotta be a way to know. Yeah,

[28:33] Exactly.

[28:35] Probably over that huge area though.

[28:37] It really wasn't that much too.

[28:38] Went down and met the, that's probably where the problem is.

[28:41] We created RN River. Yeah. One was

[28:44] Out. Um,

[28:45] so yes. Closed up, sealed up.

[28:49] No more plans for a creek. We're good.

[28:52] Um, we will be looking to restore that area

[28:55] to the way it was about three years ago. That

[28:58] Would be nice. And,

[28:59] and it'll be a nice little area.

[29:01] And I'm sure, uh, James Becker down here will be

[29:04] very happy about that too.

[29:06] So we don't So what everybody else,

[29:07] I haven't told him yet, so.

[29:09] Oh he'll. I'll probably get a Christmas present this year.

[29:13] You probably noticed. Um, oh no, you,

[29:16] he talks to me all the time about it.

[29:17] He knows. Yeah.

[29:19] Um, so, uh, going back to the RFPs real quick.

[29:22] Um, we had rfpd, uh, for engineer, solicitor

[29:27] and zoning, hearing board solicitor.

[29:29] Um, we did not receive anything back from them, um,

[29:33] from anybody really, uh, except, uh, Mr.

[29:37] S Sches did, uh, provide, um, or his Salzman Hughes

[29:42] provided, um, an engagement agreement for next year.

[29:46] Uh, it has an annual increase of 3%.

[29:51] Um, so the rates will be increased,

[29:55] um, by that amount.

[29:57] And the attorney rate, uh, will go to 1 75 an hour.

[30:02] And the paralegal, uh, project manager

[30:06] and law, uh, clerks are at 1 0 6.

[30:10] And I will tell you that's a lot lower than a lot of firms

[30:14] in the area.

[30:16] So, um, so since there were no real RFPs,

[30:21] uh, for that, my suggestion is going to be to, um, wait

[30:25] until January and then reappoint Salzman Hughes and Mr.

[30:28] Ulti for that position.

[30:33] And at the same time,

[30:37] we did receive correspondence, uh, from PMCA.

[30:41] Uh, they also have a rate increase for next year,

[30:46] and it is $10 an hour,

[30:49] and that's the first increase we've

[30:50] gotten since we've been with them.

[30:52] So, uh, again, counsel will have

[30:56] to reappoint in January who they want to do that.

[31:00] Uh, and then the last thing I have is, uh,

[31:03] we received this today.

[31:05] It's a road to independence, um, June 22nd to 26th.

[31:10] This is part of the Lincoln Highway two 50th,

[31:14] or as part of the nation's two 50th,

[31:16] but part of it's being, uh, done

[31:19] by the Lincoln Highway Association.

[31:22] So, uh, essentially they're, uh, trying

[31:25] to put together some things

[31:26] that people can do along Route 30 that, uh, you know,

[31:31] they can bring buses.

[31:33] They're looking to get seven buses, um, out of Philadelphia

[31:37] and back and forth Pittsburgh,

[31:39] and show people what's along Route 30.

[31:42] So, um, if you haven't seen the big shoe now's your time.

[31:48] Um, but if anybody wants any information,

[31:49] I have that here as well.

[31:52] And thank you, sir. Oh, okay.

[31:57] That concludes my report. All right. About time.

[32:00] I'm telling you I should actually do something.

[32:05] All right, Tim, you're up next.

[32:08] Okay. So data center ordinance, um, at the last meeting,

[32:13] uh, we discussed the only, uh, zoning district

[32:17] where a data center could go in.

[32:18] And obviously that's the commercial industrial

[32:22] district on the zoning map.

[32:23] That's the red area. Uh, on the map, uh, zoning.

[32:28] Officer Graham and I were, were charged

[32:30] of looking at the details of, uh, like setbacks and,

[32:34] and things like that within the ordinance to make sure

[32:37] that it would fit at least one of the, the existing lots in

[32:42] that zoning district.

[32:44] So we're, from a staffing perspective, we're kind

[32:48] of exhausted, uh, our expertise on this matter.

[32:53] Uh, so now we have a proposed zoning ordinance amendment,

[32:58] and the next step, Uh, that's a precondition for adoption is

[33:03] to send the ordinance to the Adams County Office of Planning

[33:06] and Development for their review.

[33:09] Most of the time for ordinances like zoning,

[33:12] ordinance amendments that are, that are pretty simple,

[33:16] we send them and then almost immediately

[33:19] advertise for the public hearing.

[33:22] This is a little different

[33:23] because, um, you know, a data center ordinance is,

[33:26] is a lot more complex than a normal

[33:29] zoning ordinance amendment.

[33:31] So one, one suggestion would be to send it

[33:35] to them now without scheduling a public hearing,

[33:38] have them review it, provide their comments,

[33:41] and then we can, uh, discuss whatever comments they have.

[33:45] They're, they're the planners. Um, I, I'm not a planner.

[33:49] Uh, chief Graham is not a planner as far as I know.

[33:53] Um, Dr. Bolton maybe. Nope.

[33:57] But I do not hold those credentials,

[34:00] But they are.

[34:01] So the idea is to is, you know, is to give it to them

[34:06] and have them review it and provide recommendations,

[34:10] and then move forward

[34:11] to towards adoption once we review those.

[34:16] And that could take them more than a month or so

[34:19] It, Yeah.

[34:21] Um, it'll take a month. Okay. Take a month.

[34:22] It'll take a month. So if we send it, you know,

[34:25] this week we, we make edit

[34:27] before your, your November meeting.

[34:30] Yeah, yeah.

[34:31] If I send it out tomorrow, they'll probably have it for us.

[34:34] Yeah. They usually get it over a week

[34:36] before the deadlines. They're pretty good.

[34:40] Yeah. I mean, we'll let 'em know.

[34:41] There's no public hearing scheduled, so, you know,

[34:44] we're really wanting their expertise on this and not,

[34:50] You Know, trying to push 'em too

[34:53] hard, so.

[34:56] Well, yeah, because this is gonna set a precedent

[34:58] for other municipality reviews too.

[35:02] Well, what's, yeah. And what's difficult

[35:03] here is we're in a borough.

[35:04] Mm-hmm. Right? So these data centers are,

[35:08] are usually cited in, in areas

[35:10] where there's much bigger landmass.

[35:14] We don't have the landmass here.

[35:17] Good thing for everybody.

[35:21] So that's the update on, uh, the data center.

[35:25] Um, any, any questions about that?

[35:29] Do you have a rough draft of that, that we're allowed

[35:30] to review ahead of time at all?

[35:33] Yes. Okay. Yeah.

[35:34] So do you need a motion for them to send that to the county?

[35:38] I, I mean, I, I Usually don't need a motion.

[35:42] Yeah. I, I think I've been authorized to prepare it

[35:45] and move it forward.

[35:46] So this is part of moving it forward, asking process.

[35:48] We're not advertising it. Right. So, yeah.

[35:51] So I think not. Okay.

[35:53] Okay. And, and, yes. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.

[35:58] So you'll send me a copy

[35:59] and I'll send in the municipal request.

[36:02] Yep. Okay. Okay.

[36:03] And I, I'll, I'll, I'll get on that tomorrow. I a copy.

[36:07] I wanna read it. You want a copy? Yeah.

[36:11] Gotta, I'm glad you want a copy. There's a lot of topics.

[36:15] Nobody else asked me for a copy.

[36:16] There's a lot of topics I wanna look at. I can't.

[36:20] No, that's good.

[36:21] So the, the next item has to do with, uh, the 2005 h

[36:26] and h car trailer case.

[36:27] As I reported last month, we had oral argument

[36:31] before the Commonwealth Court.

[36:33] Uh, we have a decision now.

[36:34] Uh, the decision upheld, uh, judge Wagner's, uh,

[36:38] May 6th, 2024, um, decision.

[36:43] So, I mean, this thing has been hanging

[36:46] around for a long, long time.

[36:48] So I, I haven't seen any, uh, request, uh,

[36:52] for further appeals to the PA Supreme Court.

[36:55] Uh, but it wouldn't surprise me,

[36:57] Uh, But I,

[37:00] I don't think the Supreme Court

[37:01] would take something like this.

[37:02] Mm-hmm. So,

[37:04] because the Commonwealth Court affirmed Judge Wagner's

[37:07] decision, we are now authorized to sell, uh, the trailer.

[37:12] Now, understand this, we don't get the money,

[37:17] the any kind of proceeds we get from the sale, we have

[37:20] to send that into the motor vehicle motor license

[37:23] fund or something like that.

[37:25] Interesting. Uh, we can, we can recoup our cost,

[37:28] but I don't think that means attorney's fees.

[37:30] I think it means the cost of the proceedings,

[37:32] which are relatively minor.

[37:35] But I mean, we will have costs in the process of selling it,

[37:39] because if we're gonna follow the borough code, uh,

[37:42] with this, uh, we're gonna have to advertise it for sale.

[37:47] It's, it's a, a sealed bid process.

[37:50] Uh, but along with that, we want

[37:52] to also advertise it in a wider

[37:55] way than just the Gettysburg Times

[37:58] because, um,

[38:00] no one will read the legal ads in the Gettysburg

[38:03] Times, typically.

[38:05] So, so the next step is to, uh, advertise it for sale.

[38:11] Um, I had previously worked on the advertisement, um,

[38:17] but it's not an action item for tonight.

[38:20] So I think it should be an action item for

[38:23] next month's agenda, uh, to authorize,

[38:28] Uh, The advertisement.

[38:31] So we have to do that

[38:34] by resolution if we're disposing of, right.

[38:38] Okay. Right. So I'll prepare a resolution for that

[38:45] costs, let's talk money.

[38:49] We build an impound lot

[38:53] to put it in, I guess.

[38:58] But we do have costs because of this.

[39:01] Oh, there's no doubt. There's no doubt.

[39:03] Uh, yeah. This,

[39:05] this has been an unfortunate situation for the borough.

[39:08] Uh, you know, we, but we had to do it.

[39:12] I mean, otherwise it, it would just sit there forever.

[39:15] Right. Without a title.

[39:16] So This thing has a title tags, vin every,

[39:18] well not tag, but I guess

[39:19] title, vin, all that nowadays. Mm-hmm.

[39:21] Well, it, it doesn't now, but,

[39:23] and what's odd about this is that the, the

[39:26] purchaser will have to obtain a new replacement VIN plate.

[39:31] So they gotta get through specialty construction

[39:33] and all that, I'm assuming.

[39:35] Yeah. So it, it, you know, whoever the,

[39:38] the purchaser is gonna have to know kind

[39:41] of how to deal with this.

[39:43] We, we have a court order that authorizes the sale

[39:46] that will authorize a replacement VIN plate for

[39:50] with pendot, but it's not a simple transaction

[39:54] where we have a, we don't even have a title.

[39:56] Gotcha. So it's, it's a little unusual,

[40:00] but that's the other little wrinkle here.

[40:03] So it, it might scare away like a normal

[40:08] guy who just wants the trailer.

[40:10] Right. Yeah. That's a pain in the butt

[40:14] Certified inspection station.

[40:15] You gotta take pictures of it.

[40:17] All the legal documents gotta be

[40:19] crossed eye and everything else. It's a pain.

[40:22] Right. Well, this whole thing has been a

[40:27] Pain and it, and

[40:28] It's an in and it's a special, uh, inspection on that too.

[40:31] Mm-hmm. You'll sit here another year,

[40:34] You'll have more money In that.

[40:36] So we can recoup the costs associated with the,

[40:39] with the proceedings and whatever.

[40:43] If there is a balance, we need to send that into the state.

[40:47] So you said we can't pay for attorney's fees outta that?

[40:50] No. Right.

[40:51] So, so if you prepare the ad,

[40:53] we can't pay you for it out of that.

[40:55] Right.

[40:57] Um, So I should probably prepare the ad

[41:02] Post it on Facebook,

[41:03] Even though I don't want to do all that.

[41:04] The other, um, the other suggestion is,

[41:09] the other suggestion is, um, uh, is municipal bid

[41:15] an adequate platform for us to sell that one?

[41:21] It is approved by the state.

[41:22] It it is, yeah. Um, and it would get us a bigger net.

[41:27] I don't think you're gonna get much for that.

[41:28] Oh, I know we're not, but we're gonna get even less

[41:31] if we sell it around here.

[41:34] Maybe. I, I, I'm certainly open to

[41:38] whatever suggestions counsel has about the best way

[41:41] of selling this thing. Okay.

[41:43] Um, But to your point, municipal bid will

[41:47] Work, I mean, better than an ad

[41:48] and a in the newspaper, you know?

[41:51] Yeah. I guess. Well, chief

[41:53] and I were talking about this today.

[41:54] We're trying to figure out what is the best way to do that,

[41:57] you know, so in addition, if we didn't go municipal bid,

[42:00] Just let me know. Yeah.

[42:02] Do you just post it for auction?

[42:04] Yeah. You basically post it for auction.

[42:05] You put a time limit on it,

[42:07] and then at the end of the auction,

[42:08] whoever bids highest gets it.

[42:10] Is, is that how like municipal bid works or, mm-hmm.

[42:13] Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's

[42:14] An, it's like eBay for municipals.

[42:16] I gotcha. Yeah.

[42:21] Scotty, Well, if you don't sell it,

[42:22] you can always just keep it and we'll use it to haul water

[42:26] or mulch for on the property.

[42:30] I like how you, you said that with street feast tight.

[42:32] See who's gonna haul it? So,

[42:34] I mean, for Public works crew, Scotty,

[42:37] you have a truck. If you end up office,

[42:39] The Park, your little tractor, you, uh,

[42:42] That pulled that.

[42:43] Yeah. In reality though, I mean, you

[42:47] could weld up walls on it if you want to.

[42:49] When you're talking a trailer, you could weld up walls

[42:51] and you could use it for public use.

[42:53] We have the other police to use for public use already.

[42:56] Are we allowed to keep it? No. No. Okay. Well, nevermind.

[43:00] We not joking anyway. Well,

[43:02] I mean, I, it was actually a good idea as far as function.

[43:08] All right. Anything else we

[43:11] have, you have anything else?

[43:13] Okay. So

[43:17] On the engineering side tonight, that I know

[43:19] Of, no.

[43:20] Nope. They're, uh, they are, um, that's in the process

[43:25] of, uh, reviewing Sutton Run,

[43:27] but I'm not gonna step on Chief's toes on that one, so.

[43:30] Okay. He'll cover that.

[43:33] All right. Dwayne, you have any words

[43:37] Of wisdom for us tonight? Yes.

[43:39] Good evening, everyone. Um, sorry for their apparel,

[43:42] but I just got outta the parlor.

[43:45] That's my job. Um, no, I, uh, chief, I heard, uh,

[43:50] all the vehicles are running good.

[43:52] No complaints. All fixed. All

[43:54] Fixed. Good deal.

[43:55] Yay. That's, that's good to know.

[43:58] Um, hey, I did wanna run this by you guys.

[44:02] I had a gentleman from, um, beaver Creek Very, he is one

[44:06] of a, a customer of mine.

[44:07] And, um, we have a disability van and stuff.

[44:10] I work on their name's. Uh, Bradley Ness.

[44:13] I don't know how you guys feel about doing something

[44:15] for Christmas time.

[44:17] He wants to be Santa Claus and he's done it.

[44:21] I mean, he sent me pictures of it, so I didn't know I'd run.

[44:25] I said, Hey, I'd run it by them.

[44:27] Santa Cla is sitting over there.

[44:31] He might be on a vacation.

[44:33] Oh no. Uhuh. He's seen all year round. But, but

[44:37] Brad asked me

[44:39] and he's, he's a wonderful, um, I'm sorry, he's, I said,

[44:43] Hey, I said, I mean, let me talk to I and see.

[44:46] I don't want to take Buzz's job, but,

[44:49] So You guys, if we can get him here

[44:52] or would you guys do what?

[44:53] Wanna talk with him and, and what day

[44:56] To do what?

[44:57] He said something about you wanna be Santa Clause

[44:59] for one night for, for AB Town.

[45:02] Sounds like he wants to

[45:03] have like a social event or something.

[45:04] Correct. Yeah. Like a trunk or tree for Christmas

[45:06] Or something to might want happen upon the

[45:08] Churches. But they, they

[45:09] usually do that at Ebac.

[45:10] And that's, can I, I, I know that, but,

[45:12] but yeah, I mean, you're the mayor. You're

[45:15] The mayor. Can I send

[45:16] him up and have approval?

[45:17] Do we have to get approval to do this? And

[45:20] What Here, Whatever night it's gonna be.

[45:22] He wants to be Santa Claus.

[45:26] I dunno. I'm just

[45:29] Don't Well, look at me. I'm not having,

[45:31] And he's a, and he's a wonderful guy. I,

[45:33] I got enough going now.

[45:34] No, I thought he there too, that we don't have any special.

[45:37] And I, and I, and I told him that,

[45:39] but, uh, he said, Mr. May, see what you can do.

[45:41] I said, whenever you want, buy the next meeting.

[45:44] No, there's the person who comes up with everything.

[45:46] That's what I'm thinking.

[45:47] That's why I'm looking right at him. Look at

[45:49] Him.

[45:50] Don't look at me. 'cause I'm not helping.

[45:52] Uh, so the mayor currently has

[45:55] approximately $170 in the line item.

[45:58] I know, I know you didn't spend it,

[46:00] but you have, uh, supplies

[46:02] and awards, $170 left of your budget.

[46:05] Yep. Um,

[46:08] we have a hundred dollars from your due subscriptions

[46:10] and memberships that were not used.

[46:15] So you do have some funds available at your discretion

[46:18] that are already budgeted.

[46:19] If you would like to do something, if you want council

[46:23] to do something on a larger scale Yeah.

[46:25] They'll have to approve that.

[46:29] Like if you did a night with the mayor type thing and Right.

[46:32] And brought Santa Claus and Yes, you could do that.

[46:36] We could chat later on about this, right?

[46:38] Yeah. Yeah. It's in's in your line of jury.

[46:40] Then if we need to counsel and then we'll just,

[46:42] You're authorized to tell me how

[46:43] to spend that money. That's what I would do.

[46:45] Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. At least I can tell him I touch base

[46:48] and then mm-hmm.

[46:49] It get from there. I think it'd be pretty cool for him.

[46:52] Yeah. He's a wonderful, it'd

[46:53] Be a nice thing to do. Yeah. Santa

[46:54] Claus, night of dws. There you go.

[46:58] After The party, free will change with every, after

[47:01] The part's closed.

[47:03] Good. But that's it. That's, that's all I have.

[47:06] All right. Thank you. Thank you. Uhhuh Code enforcement.

[47:11] Mm-hmm. Okay.

[47:18] Jay Mars has submitted their final, final draft

[47:22] of SU and run estate.

[47:26] This will be in here at the office during open hours.

[47:30] Anybody can come in and look at it.

[47:33] Uh, and Outlie outlays the project pretty much from start

[47:36] to finish and what the final

[47:40] Plan Is going to look like.

[47:42] Uh, since that just came in,

[47:43] now we don't have a planning commission.

[47:45] It needs to go to, uh, the office of,

[47:49] for the county planning and development for review.

[47:53] Uh, so same thing with them 30 days, once

[47:56] that request goes in, which the request did go in.

[48:01] So they have 30 days to get back to us with a response.

[48:04] Any, uh, criticism

[48:07] or errors that they see in the documentation.

[48:13] And that's about it for that.

[48:15] Uh, continuing to get some more sidewalks in.

[48:19] Sorry. I need an action item,

[48:21] or at least consensus to let the engineer engage on this

[48:26] so that they can review it as well.

[48:28] Our Engineer? Yeah. Oh, yes.

[48:30] Oh, I thought he was already,

[48:32] We wanna make sure that he's good.

[48:34] And give us a final Yes.

[48:36] Okay. Motion Made. It's, it's due diligence. Motion

[48:39] Made.

[48:40] Second.

[48:42] Okay. Motion Belo. Second by April. Any discussion?

[48:47] All those in favor say aye. A. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

[48:51] Motion carries. Thank you.

[48:55] Uh, continuing to put some additional sidewalks,

[48:59] more applications came in for repairs, so hopefully

[49:04] by spring

[49:05] or summer of next year, the borough should look pretty good,

[49:07] at least on Main Street.

[49:09] Should have all the issues with the sidewalks resolved.

[49:13] Uh, one property that was in serious disrepair,

[49:18] they've got their permits.

[49:20] That's West King Street, and they're, I met with them today,

[49:24] and they're gonna follow through

[49:25] with getting their roof repaired.

[49:29] So at this point, we don't have any

[49:33] properties in the borough that are in serious disrepair

[49:40] For The first time in a while.

[49:41] And it's still there, but it's being fixed.

[49:43] So I that's pretty good.

[49:47] Awesome. Uh, we have one property in the borough,

[49:50] which is dragging their feet, complying

[49:53] with the construction code.

[49:55] I talked to, uh, attorney Schultes today, uh,

[49:59] because it's kind of unique

[50:01] and there is a path moving forward to move

[50:05] that into remediation.

[50:08] Uh, And I think that is

[50:13] it for code at this point.

[50:17] Okay. Uh, police department.

[50:20] Police department, uh,

[50:23] as the mayor brought up, both cars are running.

[50:25] Okay. Knock on wood.

[50:28] Uh, we are approved

[50:32] by the Center for Traffic Safety.

[50:34] We had requested grant money for various enforcements

[50:38] for the 20 25, 20 26 period.

[50:42] And, um, we received grant money

[50:46] for those 11 projects for the entire period.

[50:52] And that will be for the impaired driving,

[50:54] aggressive driving occupant protection.

[50:58] Uh, and that occurs at different times throughout the year

[51:01] for certain periods.

[51:03] Uh, so many days.

[51:05] Uh, so they gave us a significant amount this year.

[51:09] Now some of that was also earmarked.

[51:13] Uh, since we are with, continuing with our contract

[51:17] with Berwick Township

[51:18] and their enforcement, we were actually able to apply

[51:22] for grant money for them as well.

[51:26] So some of their hours are going to be covered also by

[51:30] grant money from the Center for Traffic Safety.

[51:32] Thank you. Nice.

[51:34] So, uh, some of those roads that we cover for them,

[51:37] that bleeds over into Abbottstown, like Kinnaman Road, uh,

[51:41] some of the racetrack road issues, if we stop it over there,

[51:44] it's not coming into here, but Kinnaman certainly does.

[51:47] And 1 94 south of the borough, uh,

[51:51] when we stop the issues there, we stop it

[51:54] on South Queen Street.

[51:56] Yay. Yes. Mm-hmm.

[51:59] Uh, and King Street, same thing.

[52:04] So that is it for police at this time. Awesome.

[52:09] Thank you. Good. Thanks. All right.

[52:13] Emergency services. Have anything?

[52:20] All right. Committees.

[52:24] Uh, is there authority? Anything?

[52:28] I don't know if we're having a meeting this month or not.

[52:30] I didn't hear yet. Did you ma'am?

[52:34] Uh, A-C-B-A-P-S-A-B, anything? No.

[52:39] Council, governments, anything?

[52:41] Uh, legislative forum last month went really well.

[52:44] Um, if you get a chance, go

[52:46] to Community Media and check it out.

[52:48] Um, Senator Masano

[52:50] and Representative Mal gave, uh, some good, uh,

[52:55] feedback on some of the laws that were passed last year

[52:57] and some of the laws they're working on this year.

[52:59] So check it out.

[53:01] Where do I check that out? At

[53:03] Community Media.

[53:05] Let's Go to their website

[53:06] and look for the legislative form.

[53:10] All right. A-C-T-C-C.

[53:15] Budget and finance. Eac.

[53:20] The only thing is, again, I'm gonna

[53:22] say is giving sprees coming up in November.

[53:26] And even if you can only give a dollar,

[53:28] every little bit helps

[53:29] because every dollar that you get is kind of matched

[53:34] with what they get.

[53:36] And it really helps out a lot with what we're doing.

[53:41] Um, we're also trying to come up with new ideas

[53:45] for different, um, things to do for the towns.

[53:50] Um, and I just wish, really wish

[53:53] that you all can help out a little bit.

[53:56] I, it would be greatly appreciated.

[53:58] Okay. Okay. Parks and Recreation.

[54:04] Well, as you hear, hopefully we won't have

[54:10] A river anymore.

[54:11] Pretty much. Let's hope. Let's hope.

[54:13] Um, which will mean that whole area, if,

[54:18] if it dries up and stays dry, have to be all redone

[54:22] because all the trees

[54:23] and everything that was put in that place,

[54:26] including the seeds and stuff I have at home mm-hmm.

[54:29] Which I will plant or in the other area, um,

[54:34] was meant for wetlands.

[54:35] So we're gonna try to move some

[54:40] of the trees from that area as it dries up

[54:42] and move to the other area

[54:44] where we have wetness at most of the year.

[54:47] Um, and that's all we can basically do.

[54:49] If that area becomes dry enough, we will replant

[54:54] trees and bushes and flowers to suit that area.

[54:58] But we have to wait to see what becomes of it.

[55:01] Um, it may stay wet, not as wet, hopefully as it's now,

[55:06] but because you can sink up to your knees down there.

[55:09] Um, but hopefully I can. I know.

[55:12] Hopefully, yeah, I've been there.

[55:15] Um, hopefully we can get it finally situated

[55:20] that we actually have some nice things to watch

[55:24] and to look forward to in that whole area down there.

[55:29] Um, most of our trees are coming along.

[55:33] Um, I wanted to try to get more flowers planted.

[55:37] Um, the seeds are supposed to be spread this winter, so

[55:42] that's what I will be trying to do this late fall,

[55:46] probably end of November, sometime in December.

[55:49] I'll try to get those out.

[55:51] Um, so maybe we'll have even more flowers in the park next

[55:54] year, which would be nice.

[55:56] And again, please, anybody that can volunteer to help water,

[56:01] I would love to be able to plant plants

[56:02] in the planters up here.

[56:03] We also have more planters to put out,

[56:06] but I am not gonna put 'em out

[56:07] unless somebody's gonna help water them.

[56:10] Because is, even if I get two people

[56:15] to come, it takes you half an hour to water.

[56:17] Are the planners out here if you could help out?

[56:20] Um, thankfully we've got Aland House who does takes care

[56:25] of town center.

[56:29] Without them, you wouldn't have plants down there.

[56:31] They, they've planted, they've,

[56:35] They sent already crews.

[56:36] We worked together. Yeah. Yeah. They, I planted bulbs

[56:40] and stuff down there and they came along

[56:41] and said, okay, we're gonna put these plants in.

[56:44] And they put them in and they've been watering,

[56:46] taking care of everything.

[56:47] And same with coffee and Crump.

[56:49] Is it Crumpets Coffee and something? Crumbs. Crumbs there.

[56:54] Crumbs. Crumbs, yeah.

[56:55] Um, they've planted that planter over there too, so, um,

[56:59] it's really nice to see

[57:00] that everybody down there is getting involved

[57:03] and I really appreciate their help.

[57:05] It means a lot. And thank you for anybody

[57:09] who volunteers. Done.

[57:12] Thank You.

[57:14] Thank you. You have anything on the rest there?

[57:17] Uh, personnel Ed, Laura

[57:19] and I talked about some of the new hire candidates.

[57:21] Yeah. We went over the qualifications.

[57:24] Um, and, uh, sidewalks and streets.

[57:27] Um, we've started some line painting.

[57:31] Um, we've got some police lines going in

[57:34] and then we are going to touch up the lines

[57:37] that are in the center square.

[57:39] Uh, the crosswalks I think are done

[57:41] or no, they're get, they're going to get done.

[57:43] Um, and then we're going to get the, um,

[57:46] parking spots there done also.

[57:48] So it, it's been a couple years since we had those freshened

[57:51] up, so I try not to do it every year. But

[57:56] No, if people would just allow you

[57:57] to walk across the street, that would be fine. Yeah, well

[58:01] Remember we had those signs. I

[58:02] got their signs and then just run 'em over

[58:06] Like they didn't last.

[58:09] And the house and the squares up for auction.

[58:12] Yes. I saw that You didn't have it very long.

[58:15] You can end the mansion. Yep. Get online.

[58:18] Starting bid. 300,000. Yeah, that's what I heard. Yeah.

[58:22] I mean that's a big lot ain't it?

[58:24] Place It went up for auction

[58:26] for 1.3 when it first went up.

[58:28] Yeah. With the previous center and then it just kept Wow.

[58:32] Dwindling, annoying, dropping. What'd they sell for?

[58:35] Seven? Seven. I

[58:37] Don't remember. 600 something.

[58:38] I think 700,000

[58:40] something somewhere. Thought it

[58:41] Was just hundred or seven. I thought it was

[58:42] Something I could be wrong.

[58:44] I'd like to just tour the place. Just look

[58:47] At it. Actually on

[58:48] the website we have a video.

[58:50] We did tour the place. That'd be cool.

[58:52] A couple years ago and we filmed it. Okay. So

[58:54] The two openings they're having,

[58:56] you can go in and look at it.

[58:58] Yeah, they do have open houses too. I forget the dates.

[59:01] I don't know. I'm not, um, the state PCN came down

[59:05] and we Is it all out?

[59:07] The woman loves the house. She was like, I was like,

[59:10] no stuff down there.

[59:13] Alright, we went over correspondence. Yes.

[59:17] No old business I know of Mary didn't Any new business?

[59:21] Uh, nope. We'll talk. We're to public comment.

[59:26] Okay. Uh, rich Valentine? No, I'm good. Thank you sir.

[59:32] Walter Baker Buzzy. Thanks sir. George Miller.

[59:37] Good. Thanks sir. Perry Shearer? No, I'm good. Thank you.

[59:41] Thank sir. Debbie Shearer? No, thank you.

[59:45] Joan Weaver. Good. Thank you ma'am. Mercy Nichols.

[59:50] I'm Good. You're good. Stephanie Wagner.

[59:55] Two Takes. Yes ma'am. On

[59:56] Our, uh, street behind us, the 15 mile per hour,

[1:00:01] um, speed limit.

[1:00:02] It's in the tree. People aren't seeing it.

[1:00:05] Okay. They're Flying down that road.

[1:00:08] And how hard would it be to get a sign back there

[1:00:11] that says children at play?

[1:00:15] We have children, you know, all along there

[1:00:18] I have, I have signs in the shed.

[1:00:21] I think I have a sign in the shed. Can we get it put up?

[1:00:27] Yeah. It's not doing any good in the shed.

[1:00:29] Well then let's put her up. Let's

[1:00:31] Get it up. Just

[1:00:31] Alert them that you, there's sign down there.

[1:00:33] It's only 15 miles an hour.

[1:00:35] We've got 'em going up and down in a one way.

[1:00:38] Um, and it's constant.

[1:00:41] So anytime it backs up, we're getting it behind us.

[1:00:44] Now that's always, And it's always,

[1:00:46] but you know, I want 'em to be able to see

[1:00:49] that speed limit sign.

[1:00:51] Then the sign beyond that,

[1:00:53] that basically tells 'em a truck across.

[1:00:56] Hit that and knocked it over

[1:00:58] so it's laying in our neighbor's yard.

[1:01:01] So, so what I can do is I can have Wick come in,

[1:01:03] put up the new sign, cut back, anything

[1:01:05] that needs visibility.

[1:01:07] That's what we need. Yes, definitely. Yeah. Was that

[1:01:11] Straight on again? That's

[1:01:12] it's on the one way. West Fleet. West Fleet.

[1:01:15] Oh, okay. One way down, down the back. Yep. Oh, okay.

[1:01:19] Down the back by GNSI gotcha.

[1:01:21] Well, sometimes they do.

[1:01:22] When I go out for test drives there,

[1:01:24] it's not delivery trucks either.

[1:01:26] We have people coming down through there

[1:01:28] and I was always wondering if I could just get Chief

[1:01:31] Graham there quick enough. Trust me.

[1:01:36] We, we have, we have met people

[1:01:37] There. Yep.

[1:01:38] Yeah. And they have no conscience. They just,

[1:01:41] It's not even Like they come right down through.

[1:01:43] There's not wide. So I sit there and I look at 'em. There's

[1:01:45] No, like, I don't know what you're gonna rush for.

[1:01:46] There's a road.

[1:01:48] It's right there at one point every intersection. Okay.

[1:01:52] Kathy, any thank you.

[1:01:56] P-B-R-P-B-R. Oh, Mr. Royer.

[1:02:02] I thought it was beer time.

[1:02:10] Um, it's over beer time for me.

[1:02:11] That, you know what I'm thinking? Are you buying?

[1:02:13] You're buying, you're, uh,

[1:02:16] Travis Elizabeth?

[1:02:19] Nope. Okay. Thank you. That's everybody. Anybody else?

[1:02:23] Justin? I don't think you've signed in. Yeah, I wasn't

[1:02:25] Planning on speaking, but, uh, I would like to volunteer

[1:02:27] for doing the plants for water and the plants and stuff.

[1:02:29] Me and my wife, we talked about it. We're willing to do it.

[1:02:32] That'd be awesome. That's Nice.

[1:02:34] Until Ashley, you signed her up.

[1:02:36] I already told her. She already knows. I asked her first.

[1:02:40] She loves her plants though. She's a smart man.

[1:02:42] Well, good. She'd be a good one to do that. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:02:44] It only takes like a half an hour. And Abby was doing it.

[1:02:49] Yeah. Now she's got two jobs and an internship.

[1:02:53] Yeah. Understood. She's so busy.

[1:02:55] It's, you know,

[1:02:57] it only takes about a half an hour to water them.

[1:02:59] The water's out there, you just need to f**k it.

[1:03:02] It doesn't take long and really appreciate it.

[1:03:05] We, we had a lady that was doing it for a while,

[1:03:07] then we had a boy scout that was doing it for a while.

[1:03:09] Then the kids were coming in to do it.

[1:03:11] Now the kids are too old.

[1:03:14] I'll do it. Well,

[1:03:16] between the two of you, it would be awesome.

[1:03:18] 'cause then it, they would go on.

[1:03:21] Yeah. So, so if you would just make sure Laura has your

[1:03:23] phone numbers and go around so you can coordinate with her.

[1:03:27] And then if you guys need anything, she'll let me know.

[1:03:29] I'll try. Yep. Thank you.

[1:03:33] Anybody else? I think that's everybody.

[1:03:36] Okay. Thank you. All right. Good of the order.

[1:03:42] April, do you have anything? I

[1:03:44] Do not.

[1:03:46] Dwayne, do you have any additional?

[1:03:50] No. No, but I'll volunteer if any

[1:03:52] of them cars break down on the square.

[1:03:55] I got, I got a phone call right before closing.

[1:03:59] Remember that? That was what was that last year, Scotty?

[1:04:02] Yeah, I think so. Yes. When that one truck broke down, I,

[1:04:04] David new pocket, full tools

[1:04:06] and take the step door up there.

[1:04:08] I got 'em out of the way. A cable truck had a generator on

[1:04:12] the back through a serpentine belt.

[1:04:14] That was my volunteer. But it did pay, but it did pay good.

[1:04:20] But now I don't. That's it.

[1:04:21] Alright, Laura. Um, two things.

[1:04:24] Thank you all for coming. I appreciate it.

[1:04:26] I like seeing people coming in

[1:04:29] and finding out what's going on in this town.

[1:04:32] Mm-hmm. It really makes me happy.

[1:04:35] Um, the other one is,

[1:04:37] remember the golden rule doing unto others

[1:04:39] as you want them to do unto you.

[1:04:40] For goodness sakes. It doesn't take that much.

[1:04:43] I treat others as you want to be treated.

[1:04:47] There's no sense in the whole world right now needs it.

[1:04:53] And I just hope we all do it

[1:04:56] because I'm make it for a better place to live. Thank you.

[1:05:01] Thank you. Um, I received, uh,

[1:05:05] correspondence from, uh, St.

[1:05:07] John's Church. The trunk

[1:05:10] or treat this year will be held October 26th,

[1:05:15] starting at 5:00 PM

[1:05:16] That's What I text to

[1:05:17] You, Laura. Yeah.

[1:05:18] I write everything on here.

[1:05:23] Are are, are they gonna send me their flyer? Oh, I have.

[1:05:26] I'll send it to you. Okay. Sean usually does send Yeah.

[1:05:29] And I'll put it on Savvy. Yep. Okay.

[1:05:32] All right. That's all I have.

[1:05:36] Dennis, do you have anything just motion to

[1:05:40] Ajour? No, well not

[1:05:41] yet. Uh, Austin.

[1:05:46] Well, Laura stole my thunder,

[1:05:47] but thanks everybody for showing up from literally day one

[1:05:51] of me being on here till now.

[1:05:53] You know, whether people are here to, you know,

[1:05:54] speak about something or just listen.

[1:05:56] It's great to see the public's actually becoming more

[1:05:58] interested and more vocal about

[1:06:01] everything going on, you know?

[1:06:02] 'cause without you guys, we're not doing what we do.

[1:06:04] And if you're not here, we can't

[1:06:07] properly represent you guys, you know, which,

[1:06:08] what we're elected to do at the end of the day.

[1:06:10] Very true. So I'm appreciative

[1:06:12] to see a, you know, a room full of people.

[1:06:14] I know it's a small town, but you know, small town,

[1:06:16] everybody should almost know each other

[1:06:18] and you ought

[1:06:19] to communicate with each other at the end of the day. Thank

[1:06:21] You. We were all nice.

[1:06:22] You look a nice

[1:06:24] Meeting. Yeah.

[1:06:25] Yeah.

[1:06:27] There's no, we're nice to you. Right.

[1:06:29] But you might have to get a bigger room.

[1:06:32] I think so. You know, I was thinking of that.

[1:06:35] Get a bigger room. Thank you.

[1:06:36] Alright. If it gets that busy, that'd

[1:06:39] Be great. I just,

[1:06:40] um, I concur. Laura and Austin.

[1:06:44] I mean, it's hard

[1:06:46] to represent people when people don't tell you

[1:06:49] what they want until they don't want something.

[1:06:51] Yeah. And, and then it's not, Hey, what can we do for you?

[1:06:56] It's what should we not do for you

[1:06:58] because you don't want us to take certain actions.

[1:07:01] So it, it, it helps to be involved in the process that,

[1:07:04] to sit and listen to the conversations,

[1:07:07] to know why the decisions are made.

[1:07:10] I know Austin and I have had conversations

[1:07:12] and I've filled him in on why decisions were made in the

[1:07:15] past and what deliberations were, um, you know,

[1:07:19] 'cause he wasn't here when those happened.

[1:07:21] Um, but I'm really proud of you, ma'am.

[1:07:24] Right. I talk a lot. I'm proud of

[1:07:26] You. You, you've

[1:07:27] started taking your training,

[1:07:28] you've started looking into things

[1:07:30] and I, I, you know, I,

[1:07:32] I know April says all the time, get your training.

[1:07:33] Get your training. I was gonna say often.

[1:07:36] That was pretty nice. What,

[1:07:38] Which part? Just what

[1:07:39] you Yeah, just I can be nice. I can

[1:07:41] Tell you. I

[1:07:42] feel the vibe on you. Laura's

[1:07:45] Done a lot of work. You,

[1:07:46] You must have. It's been hard.

[1:07:48] Your HVAC system must have went good today, didn't it?

[1:07:51] Yeah, actually it did. I had a crappy

[1:07:54] day, but I put a smile on.

[1:07:56] But no, I, I, I do wanna thank everybody

[1:07:58] for coming, um, for being involved.

[1:08:00] Um, if you've got questions, call me during the week.

[1:08:03] I'm sorry if I don't pick up immediately.

[1:08:06] I'm very busy, but I always get back to people.

[1:08:08] I always make sure you're taken care of.

[1:08:10] Um, I know Travis was at the door the other day

[1:08:13] and you know, he saw the sign and he called the phone number

[1:08:16] and Mr. Graham got to him right away.

[1:08:19] And, you know, we're sorry

[1:08:20] that's happening right now, but, uh,

[1:08:22] That was just an FYI post, I am so sorry.

[1:08:25] That got heated somehow.

[1:08:26] Yeah. That's why I'm not in there.

[1:08:29] I dunno how that happened

[1:08:30] For an FYI, I don't, I don't know.

[1:08:34] But, but, you know, I just wanted to point out, you know,

[1:08:36] you, you came to the door,

[1:08:38] you know, and it's the same thing.

[1:08:39] You know, people come to the door, they call

[1:08:41] that phone number, they get me on the cell phone.

[1:08:43] So, you know, even if I'm not in here

[1:08:45] or if I am in here, a gentleman called me earlier

[1:08:47] and says, Hey, you know, I'm at the door.

[1:08:49] And I said, good. I'm in the office, gimme a minute.

[1:08:52] And I come around to get him.

[1:08:53] So, um, yeah, just, you know, we all gotta work together.

[1:08:57] We've all gotta make sure, you know,

[1:08:58] if you're upset about something, let's talk about it.

[1:09:00] Let's get it worked out. Let's find a solution.

[1:09:03] Just like Ms. Wagner, you know, she had, she had a problem.

[1:09:07] She came in, we found a solution right away.

[1:09:08] We'll get it taken care of. So, continue to work together.

[1:09:13] Good deal. Thanks.

[1:09:15] All right, next council meeting.

[1:09:17] November 20th at 6:00 PM Aye. Dennis. Already motion.

[1:09:21] Dennis Already Motion. Dennis made a motion.

[1:09:24] We have a second. Second. Have a second.

[1:09:26] All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Done.

[1:09:30] Thanks Dennis.

Abbottstown Borough Council Meeting - 10/16/2025

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