Special Meeting - 25 Aug 2023

Ada County Highway District · 2023-08-25 · More Ada County Highway District meetings

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[0:01] uh
[0:50] all right so it's three o'clock I'm
[0:53] gonna go ahead and follow the meeting to
[0:54] order we do have a quorum
[0:57] um so oh perfect commissioner Gold's
[1:00] coming on now
[1:02] um director do you want to just kind of
[1:04] like kick things off about just the one
[1:07] item that we have on
[1:09] this emergency meeting agenda uh Madam
[1:11] president thank you Bart happy to
[1:13] Commissioners again thank you all is
[1:15] commissioner gold on you
[1:17] okay uh thank you all for taking the
[1:20] time as you're well aware last night we
[1:24] received a call from the neighborhood
[1:25] indicating there was a sinkhole that was
[1:28] occurring on Lemp Street between streets
[1:31] 20 and 21. it was
[1:34] not that big team responded immediately
[1:37] and started courting off the area
[1:40] because it appeared to be getting larger
[1:43] uh this uh so everything was set for a
[1:47] safe operation through the night
[1:49] earlier this morning earlier this
[1:51] morning our team went back out and saw
[1:55] some of the pictures that I've already
[1:57] sent you
[1:58] regarding the uh the uh sinkhole across
[2:03] the sport our Engineers
[2:04] went out we did contact Boise we
[2:07] contacted the neighborhood and started
[2:10] as in our maintenance teams we did do a
[2:14] good assessment on this we have found
[2:15] that this sinkhole is approximately 15
[2:19] feet deep if not longer the pipe that
[2:24] the drainage system that is in this area
[2:26] was built in the 1970s out of aluminum
[2:30] and over the years it is apparent that
[2:34] the system uh started to fail uh this
[2:38] week we had that massive rain event uh
[2:42] the the uh the pipes that lead into this
[2:45] one going Downstream is about an 18 inch
[2:48] pipe this one is a larger 30 inch pipe
[2:52] so as you can imagine this would be
[2:54] similar to the Gold Rush where they
[2:56] dredged uh uh operations and so uh the
[3:01] entire system got blown out uh there is
[3:04] no remnants left of the pipe itself we
[3:07] did have our team go out using the
[3:09] specific technologies that we have to
[3:11] scope uh what we could scope in this and
[3:14] we found is that the uh the system has
[3:18] completely failed so uh we've been
[3:21] commissioner Pickering commissioner gold
[3:23] you know we've been in contact with the
[3:24] mayor on this and so what we are asking
[3:28] you to do today is to Grant and
[3:31] conditions so we can expend funds under
[3:34] emergency condition for sole source
[3:37] contractor
[3:39] recruitment to get these things fixed
[3:41] and the estimated cost that we're
[3:44] looking at right now is between 300 000
[3:47] and 350 000 we believe this may take uh
[3:52] uh up to two weeks we have already I've
[3:56] already closed uh limp from 20 to 21 and
[4:00] we have put up barricades on that
[4:02] Alleyway that accesses lamp
[4:05] and such and you'll have a video a
[4:08] visual of that here and
[4:10] okay to ensure safe operations we have
[4:14] already started a coordination process
[4:16] with all the key players out on the
[4:18] neighborhood but uh Republic Service all
[4:21] the folks will be servicing that area
[4:22] and our maintenance teams right now are
[4:25] actually filling the whole uh back in
[4:28] with gravel as quickly as possible to
[4:30] prevent any more degradation of the
[4:32] infrastructure but the same token to
[4:35] keep
[4:36] lookings out from getting too close and
[4:39] then falling in or having any more uh
[4:43] stress put on that infrastructure so
[4:46] again the the request is for you to
[4:49] grant that emergency uh uh opportunity
[4:53] for us to go sole source and if you do
[4:57] that we'll immediately start reaching
[4:58] out to the key contractors to see how
[5:02] quickly we can respond and get this
[5:04] fixed I do have general counsel in the
[5:07] building here I do have communications
[5:10] uh development Technical Services and I
[5:15] here in case you have any specific
[5:17] questions for them so Madam president
[5:20] that's my request and that's why we're
[5:23] here
[5:23] thanks director Commissioners
[5:25] commissioner McKinney
[5:27] uh yeah let me just ask a couple of
[5:28] questions um director what is our
[5:31] confidence level as far as uh uh how
[5:35] confident are we that once we start
[5:36] digging and looking into it that we
[5:39] won't find that the damage is a lot more
[5:41] than we think that is to say how
[5:43] confident are we that we know the extent
[5:45] of the damage at this point as opposed
[5:47] to we start digging and then discover
[5:48] that oh this is twice a big twice as big
[5:51] of a job as we thought and we'll have to
[5:53] come back again and do this again soon
[5:55] Madam president commissioner McKinney
[5:57] great question uh fortunately we do have
[5:59] a project that was ongoing that was
[6:02] going to address uh a similar situation
[6:05] a little further down our team has used
[6:08] the technology that we have here to
[6:10] assess that damage right now we we
[6:13] initially thought that we could do some
[6:15] type of spot repair and then come back
[6:17] later and then so I understand it's
[6:20] called sleeting it uh to provide more
[6:22] strength
[6:24] we're confident we have to replace the
[6:26] whole uh the whole system or about 300
[6:29] feet worth now that being said as we all
[6:32] know when you open up the roadway
[6:35] there may be more surprises there but we
[6:38] believe that this will give this will
[6:40] fix this issue again uh I'm not going to
[6:43] give you 100 on that to say when we get
[6:45] Downstream and we continue to move
[6:47] forward we may find more issues if we do
[6:50] I'll come back to the commission and uh
[6:53] make sure I'll make sure you have an
[6:54] update we have to go for something
[6:56] different than I'll be in front of you
[6:58] again saying here's what we found
[7:00] are we are we going to presumably
[7:02] replace uh with reinforced concrete pipe
[7:05] uh I believe we're doing um
[7:09] I'm not mistaken yes uh Plastics uh more
[7:12] more strength more uh longevity
[7:17] PVC yeah
[7:19] okay then one final question I'm sorry
[7:24] um
[7:25] the sort of temporary measure that you
[7:27] took in dumping gravel in there uh does
[7:31] that not pose a problem for them silting
[7:33] up our pipes Downstream or is that going
[7:36] to be there short enough time that I
[7:38] mean what I'm saying is before we get in
[7:40] there let's suppose a downpour hits two
[7:42] hours from now and starts trying to wash
[7:44] all that gravel Downstream is that not a
[7:47] problem
[7:48] um Madam president uh commissioner
[7:49] Pickering yes it is uh that being uh
[7:52] kind of President commission McKinney uh
[7:55] that being said yes it is however uh
[7:58] again all knowing that you never cancel
[8:00] the forecast we are confident that for
[8:03] the next week week and a half we were
[8:05] not going to see another one of these
[8:06] issues recall this was the impact of the
[8:09] revenants of that hurricane and uh and
[8:12] uh tropical storm that came up uh into
[8:16] Idaho but everything looks great I
[8:18] looked at the weather forecast there is
[8:21] a high over Idaho right now there's a
[8:23] storm earlier today that was it was
[8:26] going around the Oregon Washington area
[8:28] but it was going north
[8:30] so so if there's another a major event
[8:33] it's going to be an issue but uh we
[8:37] don't think that's going to happen today
[8:39] okay great thank you commissioner
[8:41] goldthorpe
[8:42] yeah I you know last eight and a half
[8:45] years I think we've all had our fingers
[8:47] crossed that something like this wasn't
[8:48] going to happen in the North End because
[8:51] of the uh infrastructure that was built
[8:54] there 100 years ago and maybe a little
[8:56] more recent as we're finding out now but
[8:58] uh yeah I you know just like
[9:02] commissioner McKinney said nothing's
[9:03] nothing's going to surprise me there and
[9:05] I hope we can find that it's uh less
[9:09] than worst case scenario and get it done
[9:12] quickly and sitting here hearing Paul
[9:14] saying what kind of material is going to
[9:16] be used to replace the pipe I actually
[9:19] remembered one of my Roadmaster classes
[9:22] where we talked about the types of pipe
[9:28] that's all I have to say thanks
[9:31] commissioner Goldberg commissioner gold
[9:32] do you have anything any questions you
[9:34] want to ask
[9:37] I don't I am
[9:40] I think it was all covered from my
[9:42] questions but um I appreciate the you
[9:44] know quick response and
[9:46] making sure that we can get this address
[9:48] so thank you
[9:52] can I just ask one more question I am
[9:54] sorry about this the um the funding uh
[9:57] the funds that we're authorizing for
[9:59] emergency use uh where do they come from
[10:02] Mr we'll take that out of any reserves
[10:04] we have but it's not a problem having
[10:07] one of the reasons we have reserves okay
[10:09] they just come out of our cash reserves
[10:11] then that was gonna be my question too
[10:14] so thanks commissioner McKinney okay
[10:16] any other questions commissioners
[10:23] yes you will if if you agree and allow
[10:26] us you'll have to adopt that resolution
[10:27] that's in front of us that authorizes us
[10:29] to go
[10:30] so yeah all uh is there a motion to
[10:34] approve the adoption for resolution 24
[10:37] 10. yes
[10:39] Madam president I would move that we
[10:42] adopt resolution 2410.
[10:44] okay
[10:46] moved and seconded any other discussion
[10:51] keep up the great work of keeping the
[10:54] neighbors informed about what's
[10:55] happening
[10:57] um and or maybe even provide like a
[10:59] specific like line that they can call or
[11:03] text to get more update information
[11:05] because this is really
[11:07] [Music]
[11:07] um
[11:08] specific and I don't want them to get
[11:10] bogged down through our Telus system
[11:12] even though they wouldn't but yeah just
[11:14] a little bit more hasty Communications
[11:16] would be great so Madam President we are
[11:18] we are adding a project page
[11:21] um and such so uh
[11:25] beautiful that sounds great okay all
[11:27] right all those in favor say aye
[11:30] aye
[11:31] opposed motion carries thank you
[11:34] director thanks Dave thanks staff
[11:37] thank you
[11:38] enjoy the weekend