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» No, they all
>> those are
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» No. Well, I just want to We need
>> Okay.
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» Yeah. So, anything anything under
approval or is Kevin
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By the way, did
>> did historical society like those?
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» Yeah, she loved them.
She was
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Summer has the warm
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» going.
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I heard you were circling the block
>> a little bit.
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» Half other people in this meeting.
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two paper clips.
>> We So, it'll be This should have been
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doublesided.
>> It's only one-sided. So, we communicated
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that. It was nice to have the whole
terrac
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» I like that
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everybody ready.
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How you doing, man?
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» Did we get all the adjusting entries,
everything all done yet? Or
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» that uh tax revenue one is proving we
knock down again.
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» We just don't have any knocking.
>> We may need may need him to have to sign
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up. passes down and sign it,
>> right?
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» In blood.
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» Don't worry. Here's Go read the fine
print.
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» No, no, no. I'm not supposed to even
hold them.
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» Well, you're signing with your left
then.
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» Let's get started, everyone.
>> Here.
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» Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to
call to order the uh regular monthly
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summer meeting of the Ada Township
Board, trustees, and other members. Can
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we all please stand for a moment? Um,
the pledge of allegiance. A moment of
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» silence.
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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it
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stands. One nation,
indivisible, liberty and justice for
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all.
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Clerk DeMarco, will you please call the
role?
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» Supervisor
>> here.
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» Clerk DeMarco here.
>> Treasure Morand
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» here.
>> Trusty Crows
[4:24]
» here.
>> Trusty
[4:25]
» here. Trusty Carter
>> here.
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» Trusty Damstra is absent.
>> Thank you. Um we have an agenda in front
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of us with a number of items. There's no
u requirement to change this agenda. So
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it's an agenda as presented with someone
move to approve as presented.
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» So moved.
>> Second.
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» Thank you. Moved by Trusty Heritz,
supported by Trusty Carter to approve
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the agenda. All in favor signify by
saying I.
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» I.
>> I.
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» That motion carries. We're going to go
on to the general township business.
[5:01]
It's the motion to approve minutes and
accept and file reports communications
[5:05]
under the consent agenda.
Includes the approval of the township
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board meeting minutes from June 8th,
2026
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and the following planning commission
meetings from May 21st. The Thornample
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Thornapple pedestrian bridge meeting
minutes number 10 from June 10th. The
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Thorn Apple River Pedestrian Bridge
meeting minutes number 11 from June
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26th. Coverbridge Park Progress meeting
uh number 21 minutes to June 18th. The
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Grand River Drive trail improvements
progress meeting number three minutes
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from June 10th, the Nap Street
Pedestrian Bridge kickoff meeting
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minutes from June 26th, and the revenue
and expense report as of June 30th,
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2026.
There's does anyone have any questions
[5:53]
or comments on any of those? And if not,
um, would someone move to approve all
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these items?
>> I move to approve minutes and accept and
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file reports and communications
under the consent agenda.
[6:05]
» Second.
>> Thank you. We have motion by trustee
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pros, supported by trustee Carter to
approve the reports and communications
[6:12]
under the consent agenda. All in favor
signify by saying I.
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» I.
>> Anyone opposed? Hearing none, that
[6:20]
motion carries.
We're going to move on to the approval
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of the warrants. The first one is the
township general warrants. Um would uh
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Treasurer Moran, will you please present
the warrants?
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» Thank you, Supervisor Cor. Uh today,
July 13, 2026. We have hand checks that
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total 1,93,8215
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and warrants that total $964,19727
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for all checks and warrants totaling
$2,58,18.32.
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» These items were are detailed in the
revenue expense report as well as the
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summary of the warrants. Does anyone
have any questions or comments?
[7:10]
This is a roll call vote.
Clamar Mark, will you please call the
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role?
>> No. Need a motion to appropriate.
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I'll make I'll make a motion to approve
the uh the uh uh checks and warrants uh
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for uh as of Monday, July 13th, 2026 in
the amount of 2,58,18.32
[7:35]
» support. All right. Thank you,
gentlemen. We have a motion by Trusty
[7:38]
Carter supported by Trusty Pros to
approve the general township warrants.
[7:43]
Right now, we're ready for the roll call
vote. Trusty Carter.
[7:46]
» Iusty
>> I.
[7:49]
» Trusty pros.
>> Hi,
[7:51]
» Treasure Moran.
>> I clerk Marco I. Supervisor.
[7:55]
» I.
All right. The next item is to consider
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the conservation boardwalk replacement
project change order number one.
[8:04]
Riverworks construction to balance
original contract items to asbuilt
[8:08]
quantities for a project deduction of
$6,970.
[8:15]
Uh thank you, Supervisor Cor Ryan
Erenss, Morren Bruent Township Engineer.
[8:19]
Um as you mentioned, have before you uh
change order number one and final for
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the conservation boardwalk replacement
project. This change order balances uh
[8:29]
contract quantities to asbuilt um
quantities and uh we did end up slightly
[8:35]
under the original contract amount. The
change order is for a negative $6,970.
[8:41]
um that resulted in RiverWorks
construction. They were able to
[8:46]
eliminate the helical piles we had set
up and they were able to utilize
[8:49]
standard timber piles in uh location of
the helical piles by offsetting their
[8:55]
pile driving equipment to avoid the
power lines that were above. So, um this
[9:01]
change order closes the project out and
like I said, balances everything to
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asbuilt quantities.
>> Great. Thank you.
[9:09]
» Any questions or comments? [snorts]
I think Bob should this. We got a
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deduction here.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
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» Well, I I I certainly like deductions.
>> Um I move approval of change order
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number one, a deduction of $6,970
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[clears throat]
>> on the riverwork construction.
[9:30]
» Second.
>> Thank you. Motion by Trusty Pros,
[9:32]
supported by Trustee Carter to approve
the change order um for the conservation
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boardwalk improvement project. Uh this
is a roll call vote.
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» Supervisors
>> IMACO
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I treasure
>> I
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» trusty pros.
>> Hi.
[9:54]
» Trusty. Hi.
>> Trusty Carter.
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» I
thank you. All right. The next one is
[10:02]
the consider the cover bridge
park change order number 10 from
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Katherburg Verg
up. Sorry to consider conservation
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boardwalk replacement project final pay.
Oh, it's a pay application for that
[10:17]
boardwalk. Application number three for
Riverworks construction in the amount of
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39,32975
which I'm assuming reflects the red the
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deduction.
>> Correct.
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» Yes, that is correct. Thank you,
Supervisor Court. Again, Ryan Arens more
[10:32]
brink township engineer. Uh with the
approval of that change order on the can
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conservation boardwalk replacement
project, we now have the uh final pay
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recommendation. Uh it's pay
recommendation number three and final in
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the amount of $39,329.75.
[10:48]
Uh RiverWorks Construction completed the
boardwalk um and has addressed all of
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the punch list items that we identified
at our May 26th final inspection. So,
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we're recommending full payment and
release of all retainage. Uh, so that
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total amount would be $39,329.75.
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» Ryan, I got a problem with uh releasing
the retention.
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» Okay.
>> Um,
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you know, in a final pay, we got to keep
this for a little while just make sure
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nothing shifts, no boards warp. Let's
get through a little season. Um, fair is
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fair. There's another payoff later in
here where it's not completion, but it's
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pretty close for the similar type uh
trail construction. All along we've
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always withheld 5%
10% at the beginning and get so far in
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the project, we reduced that. But to
break away from that is a breakaway from
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the norm. And it's miraculous how all of
a sudden if there's no money out there
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and something happens that now we're
liable for it. And to call the
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contractor back is a charge where if we
withhold something and as part of the
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project then it becomes common sense
that they would fix it in order to get
[12:06]
their retention. Um how long do we hold
it for? I'm not an expert. we would come
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to you for it for for that. But I
believe we should hold it for at least
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uh through the through the fall season
and perhaps even into spring where the
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fluctuations in the in the earth and the
movement causes it. I'm not trying to be
[12:28]
mean or anything else to the contractor
because they've done a good job.
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However, common sense and consistency is
what I'd like to strive for. I don't
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know if any of the other board members
agree or disagree, but it's uh
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» just as a as a note, Bob. So, I mean,
typically when we do the final pay
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application, we pay the final amount.
The items you might be speaking to would
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be covered under warranty, which would
be for, I believe, a year from
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» So, the warranty in the contract, uh,
the legal and binding contract specifies
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one year from final inspection. So, the
warranty would be good until May 26th of
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2027. Um, at which point basically the
contractor is liable for any repair
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replacement.
>> I'm just I'm was just concerned about
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» Yeah. So, typically, I mean, what we
we've done is we do pay the final pay
[13:16]
application and then anything else would
fall under warranty. Typically, the only
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thing we've held retainage for has been
lawn restoration or yard restoration
[13:23]
that might [clears throat]
uh, you know, go from the fall into the
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spring. But typically, when the
project's complete, we do the final
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payoff once the punch list items are
done. And then anything else would be
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covered under warranties.
>> I'm fine with that.
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Does the contract specify that we pay
the retainage at the end
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» when the project's complete?
>> Yeah. When when the project's complete
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and all, basically they've satisfied our
final inspection list.
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» And we believe that's where we're at.
>> Yeah. So if uh as Mr. Pro said, if
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something does happen over the course of
the fall, winter, spring, it then
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becomes a warranty related issue. Um
okay.
[14:02]
I think it's a good discussion, but
Um, I'll I'll make the uh motion to
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approve uh uh pay application number
three for 39. I got this right? Yeah.
[14:16]
Yeah. 39 32975
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$39,329.75
[14:25]
uh for the conservation boardwalk
replacement. This is application number
[14:30]
three.
>> Support.
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» Thank you. We have we have a motion by
trustee pros, excuse me, trusty Carter
[14:38]
supported by treasure man. Roll call
vote, please.
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» Supervisor Cords.
>> I.
[14:45]
» Clerk Demarco,
>> I. Treasure Moran,
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» I.
>> Trusty Crows.
[14:50]
» Hi.
>> Trusty [clears throat] Herurwitz.
[14:52]
» Hi,
>> Trusty Carter.
[14:53]
» I
>> Okay. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Um,
[14:58]
right. Now we're ready to move on to the
consider the covered bridge park change
[15:00]
order number 10 from KG
to add water fountain relocation, snow
[15:06]
melt system capping, restroom building,
electrical adjustment for a project
[15:11]
increase of $5,635.
[15:15]
» Good afternoon. Uh Pieransky, project
manager, uh Progressive Companies on the
[15:19]
Ada Coverbridge Park. Uh here is change
order number 10. It covers three items
[15:23]
as mentioned. Uh the relocation of
existing water fountain. There was one
[15:27]
in front of the restroom building. Uh we
thought we could work around it through
[15:30]
conversations with Caterberg and through
just kind of talking means and methods
[15:33]
of how they were planning on building
it. It just made much more sense to
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remove it instead of potentially
damaging it because we had to pour more
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concrete around it. So that's the first
item. Second item is uh capping the snow
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melt system. We thought we had it taken
care of last early early this spring,
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but it turns out with a little bit more
excavation, a little bit setup, it was
[15:50]
hit again. So we need to cap it again
properly to make sure it doesn't leak in
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the future. That was the snow melt that
used to lead to the sidewalk that ran
[15:57]
out to the parking lot originally from
the building. And the last one is the
[16:01]
pretty unfortunate, but uh as we've been
digging into the building as the
[16:04]
renovations have happened, we've
discovered that the electrical wires
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throughout the building were essentially
morted into the concrete block. So our
[16:11]
plan was originally to be able to pull
that wire out and reroute it, but
[16:14]
because it's inside the block and we're
adding blocks above it, there's no way
[16:17]
to actually connect safely those wires
throughout. So this is essentially to
[16:20]
rewire the restroom building. That's
just something that open it up, find
[16:24]
something unique. Never seen that
before. And that's that's what that is
[16:27]
for. So those are the three items. Um I
believe right now we're pretty much in a
[16:32]
shape. I don't think anything else is
going to jump up. This is kind of the
[16:34]
last unknown. Renovations. I'm sure
we've all renovated a house or home or
[16:37]
have friends or family. Things just kind
of pop up and you start tearing stuff
[16:40]
apart. So this should be uh hopefully
the last change order for now.
[16:46]
» Director Diesson uh is out of town and
so I'm happy to answer any questions. I
[16:51]
mean, these are items that we discussed,
uh, worked through, he felt comfortable,
[16:56]
um, paying from the existing contingency
fund. And as Peter indicated, we're
[17:01]
essentially pretty close to the finish
line. Um we did when we did took a tour
[17:06]
um we looked at the electrical piece and
because we added I think Peter said
[17:10]
three or four blocks on top. I mean
rather than start splicing wires
[17:14]
together it just made a lot more sense
to do it the safe way and re rewire the
[17:19]
electric box without a mortar block is
not a smart idea for long term.
[17:23]
» Yep. So,
>> I remember asking about the water
[17:27]
fountain in regards to I know we're
replacing the existing one, but I think
[17:32]
I mentioned at one point in time using
a more
[17:37]
popular one that you can refill your
water bottles. Was that ever discussed
[17:41]
or did we ever get a price on that or is
there a second? Oh jeez, you're kind of
[17:46]
if we got a spot here. I can't remember
if we have a second one on the park or
[17:48]
not. I don't think we do. The one there
is just being re removed and replaced.
[17:52]
It's It's in great shape. It's just uh
doesn't have the water bottle fil
[17:56]
filter, but that's a
>> Is it attached to the building itself?
[17:58]
» It is right outside about 2 feet.
>> So, it's freestanding. Okay.
[18:01]
» Freestanding. Yeah. Yep.
>> Thank you.
[18:13]
» I'll make a motion uh to approve uh
covered bridge uh park change order
[18:19]
number 10.
um to add the water fountain uh
[18:24]
relocation, the snow melt system
camping, and restroom building,
[18:28]
electrical adjustment for a project
increase of $5,635.
[18:37]
» Thank you. We have a motion by Trustee
Carter, supported by Trusty Kerwitz
[18:42]
to approve this change order. Um
Mark, we please call the RO.
[18:49]
Excuse me. [clears throat] Trusty
Carter.
[18:51]
» I.
>> Trusty Herurwitz.
[18:53]
» Hi.
>> Trusty Pro.
[18:55]
» Hi.
>> Treasure Moran.
[18:56]
» Hi.
>> Clerk Demarco. I Supervisor C.
[18:59]
» I.
Thank you.
[19:04]
Okay. So now we're consider the cover
bridge park pay application number nine
[19:08]
from Caterberg in the amount of
$338,569.56.
[19:16]
Hi Peter Spansky again. Uh it's payation
number nine. We have uh a lot of uh
[19:21]
items in this one. I picked out five of
the larger ones. Um we have the restroom
[19:26]
building, the restroom building which is
being constructed. We're roughly about
[19:28]
80%. Uh a lot of the structural aspects
have been taken care of. Um on that we
[19:34]
have the uh canopy structure bringing up
to 90%. Really is just a little bit more
[19:38]
roofing left to go and the final
connections to the restroom building
[19:40]
itself. I believe actually siding today,
so that's good. Um and then we have
[19:45]
$85,000 for the pave drain pavers. Those
are those uh rain rainwater infiltration
[19:49]
blocks that you see throughout the
entire downtown. And we've done the
[19:52]
curve around the park there. And we have
$29,796.75
[19:57]
for the 75% of the irrigation system.
Just a little bit left kind of out by
[20:01]
the restroom building where we're still
currently operating. And then $31,175.
[20:07]
And that's kind of the lump sum of the
if you remember back there's a change
[20:09]
order to add the north side of the cover
bridge the deck the steel rail the steel
[20:14]
beams underneath being re repainted and
re well sanded then repainted and then
[20:18]
the railing. So all that work is
complete now. So this is kind of up to
[20:22]
there. Um as you can see we are moving
closer and closer to completion. It's
[20:26]
kind of fun to see some grass seating
going on. You can kind of see the final
[20:29]
form. Um right now we are still tracking
for August 12th as planned and uh
[20:34]
everything talked to contractor this
morning everything seems to be going
[20:37]
relatively smooth. So any questions feel
I'm here here to answer them.
[20:50]
Uh I I'll make another motion here to to
approve uh the covered bridge park pay
[20:55]
application number nine from Kerberg for
HG in the amount of $338,569.56
[21:06]
» support. Thank you.
[21:11]
Application number nine was moved by
trustee Carter supported by treasure
[21:17]
man.
This is another roll call vote.
[21:21]
Call the vote.
>> Treasure Moran.
[21:23]
» Hi.
>> Supervisor Kors.
[21:26]
» Hi.
>> Trusty Carter.
[21:28]
» I.
>> Trusty Herurwitz.
[21:30]
» Hi.
>> Trusty Pros.
[21:31]
» I Marco. I.
>> Thank you.
[21:36]
Okay. The next one. Consider the Grand
River Drive trail improvement project
[21:40]
pay application number two from Tomic
Construction in the amount of
[21:44]
$490,234.40.
[21:47]
40 cents.
>> Thank you, Supervisor Court. Uh again,
[21:50]
Ryan Erenss, Mor Brink, Township
Engineer. Uh have before you this
[21:54]
afternoon recommendation for payment
number two for the Grand River Drive
[21:57]
trail improvements project. Uh this is
for work completed from about miday
[22:02]
through June 26th. Um and essentially
the the path is nearly complete at this
[22:08]
point. Um, this pay application uh is in
the amount of $490,2340.
[22:17]
Um, and it does include a 5% retainage
uh as we've hit 50% of the contract
[22:22]
amount which is $43,914.81
[22:27]
uh to atomic construction.
[22:33]
» How um is the section on Ada Drive done
yet?
[22:37]
» It is not. They're actually they were
scheduled to start today. Uh they had
[22:41]
some equipment issues. The mill broke
down um that crushes the pavement. So
[22:46]
now they're scheduled to start
Wednesday. They have done some
[22:48]
preliminary concrete work and put the
soil erosion control measures up. They
[22:52]
did that late last week. Uh but the
brunt of the work was scheduled for for
[22:57]
this week. Um they're just going to be a
little delayed with the equipment.
[23:01]
» What's this the start to finish on just
that little stretch because it's
[23:04]
» essentially about a week.
>> A week. Okay.
[23:08]
So,
we do have our final inspection
[23:12]
scheduled for the section on Grand River
from Nap down to Fulton uh for the
[23:18]
middle of next week.
>> So, we're going to walk that with Atomic
[23:21]
Construction, document any punch list
items, that type of
[23:25]
» great
move approval of uh Grand River Drive
[23:28]
trail improvement project application to
atomic construction in the amount of
[23:32]
$490,2340.
[23:36]
support
>> motion to approve
[23:41]
by
support treasure.
[23:47]
All I guess roll call vote.
>> Trusty Carter
[23:52]
» I.
>> Trusty Herurwitz.
[23:53]
» Hi.
>> Trusty pros.
[23:56]
» I.
>> Treasure Moran
[23:57]
» I.
>> Marco I. Supervisor.
[24:00]
» I. Thank you.
All right. Here's the last one of this
[24:04]
group. Uh it's the consider the
Thornapple River pedestrian bridge
[24:07]
project pay application number six from
the Grand River construction from Grand
[24:12]
River construction in the amount of
832,85442.
[24:19]
Thank you, Supervisor Court. Again, Ryan
Arens, Morren Brujink, township
[24:23]
engineer. I have before you pay
recommendation number six uh for the
[24:27]
Thorn Apple River pedestrian bridge
project uh due to Grand River
[24:31]
construction and this is for work
essentially performed in the month of
[24:34]
June. It's a big one as we set the the
pre-fabricated pedestrian bridge in that
[24:39]
bridges in that month. Uh so this pay
recommendation is for $832,8542
[24:47]
and it still does include a 10%
retainage on that as well.
[24:57]
» Where where are we on the opening of the
bridge?
[25:00]
» So they are finishing up concrete work
on both sides this week. Um also
[25:04]
finishing up the rough earth work. uh
going to do uh irrigation repairs, tree
[25:10]
planting next week and then as soon as
irrigation repairs are done, they're
[25:13]
going to spray restoration. Uh there's a
good chance it could potentially be open
[25:17]
to foot traffic this Friday. Um after
they get the concrete poured,
[25:21]
essentially the concrete cures one day
and foot traffic is allowed on it. So
[25:26]
» it's exciting.
[25:31]
What else?
>> I'll move approval to uh Riverworks
[25:35]
Construction
in the amount this is pay what number is
[25:41]
» six
>> six in the amount of $832,8542
[25:48]
» second to Grand River.
>> So we have a motion by trusty pro
[25:55]
supported by trusty Carter
pay application number to Grand River
[26:00]
construction for 832,8442.
[26:06]
» Supervisor Cor
>> I clar.
[26:10]
» Treasure Moran
>> I.
[26:11]
» Trusty pros.
>> Hi.
[26:13]
» Trusty.
>> Hi.
[26:14]
» Trusty Carter.
>> I.
[26:17]
» Thank you. All right. So, we're going to
move into um our public com first public
[26:22]
comment of the afternoon. Uh would any
members of the public like to come up uh
[26:27]
and talk about any topic they'd like?
They'd like to come up, please state
[26:31]
your name and address for the record,
please.
[26:40]
Seeing no one come up at this time, I
will close this first public comment
[26:44]
session and move on. We have no items of
unfinished business. We do not have a
[26:49]
public hearing. So, we'll move into our
new business section, which is the first
[26:53]
one is the request from Egypt Valley
Country Club for public fireworks
[26:57]
display permit on September 19th,
2026 with a rain date of October 3rd.
[27:04]
» Yes, my name is Michael Faulk. I'm with
Pyro Technical Fireworks and I'm
[27:08]
representing specifically Egypt Valley
Country Club today. Um, as a supervisor
[27:13]
said, they would like to have a firework
display for their fall festival on
[27:17]
September 19th. So you have in front of
you an application for the fireworks as
[27:22]
well as a certificate of insurance and a
site map. So no changes from previous
[27:28]
years. Same same crew more or less, same
location. Um same situation all around.
[27:33]
I'm here to answer any questions you
might have.
[27:37]
» And this has been reviewed um with fair
chief Murray and Township doesn't have
[27:42]
any issues with the request as
presented.
[27:46]
Move approval of the request as
presented
[27:51]
» for the fireworks display.
Second.
[27:56]
So we have a motion by trustee pro
supported by trusty Carter for the
[27:59]
approval of the um firework display
permit for Egypt Valley Country Club on
[28:04]
September 19th. All in favor signify by
saying I.
[28:08]
» I. Anybody opposed? Hearing none, that
motion carries unanimously.
[28:13]
» Thank you very much.
Okay, we're going to move on to uh the
[28:18]
resolution resolution R07
1326-1, a resolution to authorize the
[28:24]
songs and sips application for special
license.
[28:29]
» Thank you board members. Uh Ethan Angel,
recreation coordinator with your parks
[28:32]
and rec department. Uh just need your
approval to move forward. It's our
[28:35]
second annual songs and sips. Last year
went off with great success. We had
[28:40]
about 55 people in attendance even
though the weather was questionable as
[28:44]
it tends to be in February. Roselle
worked great. We had some great
[28:47]
partnerships with the historical society
and a couple other sponsors that came
[28:50]
through. Uh worked with Gravel Bottom to
supply the beer and wine. We don't have
[28:54]
any artists planned at this time. Still
working with Chris Collins. We're hoping
[28:58]
to get through music on the lawn before
we book the next set of artists. Um but
[29:01]
we just need your guys' approval to be
able to move forward and this just keeps
[29:04]
our events moving forward and and ahead
of schedule.
[29:08]
Okay.
[29:11]
I think it's wonderful.
>> I move approval of resolution to adopt
[29:14]
resolution R-07
1326-1 authorizing the songs and steps
[29:20]
application for special license.
>> Support
[29:25]
by trustee with supported by treasurer
Moran to approve resolution 071326-1
[29:33]
uh for the songs and sips application
for a special liquor license. This is a
[29:38]
roll call vote.
[29:42]
» Supervisor Cor
>> Igo
[29:45]
I. Treasurer [clears throat] Moran
>> I.
[29:47]
» Trusty Pros.
>> Hi.
[29:49]
» Trusty Herurwitz.
>> Hi.
[29:50]
» Trusty Carter.
>> I.
[29:53]
» Thank you. We're all set. Thanks.
>> Okay. We're moving on to consider the
[29:59]
recommendation from the planning
commission to deny request to reszone 60
[30:03]
Adah Hills Drive Northeast
from rural residential to single family
[30:08]
R1 residential.
>> Thank you.
[30:11]
» Good afternoon,
Supervisor Cor and members of the board.
[30:14]
John said, director of planning for the
township.
[30:18]
This matter concerns a request for
reszoning for 68 Hills Drive from rural
[30:25]
residential to single family
residential. This matter was fully
[30:29]
vetted at the June planning commission
meeting. However, I do have a number of
[30:34]
details. So, I can go into those and
share that information with you now if
[30:38]
you would like or if you wanted to just
ask questions, whatever your pleasure
[30:43]
may be.
John, what were some of the issues or
[30:48]
what is the is there a top five issues
that they all rejected or top one or
[30:54]
» certainly um
significantly it's a it's a great
[30:58]
question. Significantly, the the the
request to reject this was based on the
[31:04]
fact that this is an isolated zoning
request. This is a request that um there
[31:10]
is no other location uh anywhere around
there that has this zoning district.
[31:15]
This is a single parcel resoning request
and it is simply to allow for an
[31:21]
increase in density in an area that
otherwise it would not comply with. The
[31:26]
applicant had identified other areas
not far from this one where
[31:33]
lots were smaller than the the minimum
allowed. However, as I've noted in the
[31:39]
staff report,
those were developed undoubtedly under
[31:44]
previous zoning ordinances and do not
match what is there now. So the idea is
[31:50]
always moving to move forward to
progress to increase conformity with
[31:54]
current standards including lot sizes
instead of moving backwards to allow
[31:59]
non-conformance or use use of outdated
standards. So that was a that was a
[32:03]
large issue conformance with those
zoning standards and our zoning
[32:07]
ordinance
significantly as well. We don't have any
[32:11]
other location in the township that is
zoned R1. This would be a one lot zoning
[32:17]
district which we don't have anywhere in
the community and it would be a location
[32:22]
where um there is no other no other
property within the township that is
[32:28]
zoned R1. So the the planning commission
felt very strongly about that topic.
[32:36]
They felt that that merited significant
consideration
[32:41]
because of those conditions. We also had
a member of the public that spoke at the
[32:46]
meeting and also submitted a letter in
opposition and it was a neighbor
[32:50]
neighboring property owner in that
location.
[32:54]
the factors and I can certainly read
this in verbatim if you want but just
[32:58]
the main factors were disruption of the
rural residential characteristics of the
[33:03]
area uh conflict with the township's
plan
[33:09]
degradation of the Fulton Street
corridor increase in density diminished
[33:13]
safety and functionality of the
neighborhood
[33:16]
so that that's what that individual
submitted uh their information is
[33:20]
complete is also included in the um in
the uh minutes for that meeting. One
[33:28]
thing I'd also like to make mention of
as it relates to the master plan. While
[33:32]
the applicant had had said this conforms
with the master plan because the R1
[33:37]
district and this particular area is
currently planned for neighborhood
[33:42]
residential. The fact of the matter is
is that master plans just like zoning
[33:48]
ordinances and everything else are
living breathing documents and they are
[33:52]
subject to update as time goes along.
This particular area does not have any
[33:57]
of the utilities that would be
appropriate and necessary for
[34:01]
neighborhood residential. There's no
sewer, there's no water or any of that
[34:04]
kind of stuff north of Fulton Street. So
that's a significant issue to be
[34:10]
considered. Sim similarly um
the the master plan and the other topics
[34:19]
that are talked about in the master plan
talks about in areas of the that have
[34:23]
more rural character which this does
that language in the master plan says
[34:29]
that the township should discourage
resonings which incrementally increase
[34:33]
density in the area. So that's a master
plan policy matter as well as it relates
[34:38]
to the isolated zoning. I have
references from a planners dictionary
[34:44]
which is from the American planning
association and several several
[34:48]
references of that planners dictionary
as it relates to spot zoning which is
[34:52]
the kind of the planner geek term used
for isolated zoning basically talk about
[34:58]
the zoning of a small area which differs
measurably from the zoned land
[35:03]
surrounding the area.
Um, similarly,
[35:08]
reszoning of a lot or parcel designed to
benefit an owner for a use incompatible
[35:13]
with surround with surrounding uses and
on and on. Several more definitions that
[35:17]
are similarly noted and and referenced
in that way.
[35:22]
I apologize for the length and answer to
your question.
[35:24]
» I think you hit five. [laughter]
[35:36]
questions or comments.
[35:39]
The request is for the denial of the
request as recommended consistent with
[35:43]
the planning commission and staff
recommendations based on the findings of
[35:47]
fact that the request would be
inconsistent with the township law
[35:49]
specified in the planning ordinance.
>> So moved.
[35:55]
support
>> moved by treasure man supported by
[35:59]
trustee pros to go with the planning
department's recommendation of the
[36:03]
demile of the request as recommended
all in favor signify by saying I
[36:09]
» I
>> anyone opposed hearing none that motion
[36:13]
carries unanimous
>> thank you very much
[36:20]
» all right the next item is the consider
the Thor Apple River pedestrian excuse
[36:23]
me is moved down to um
let's see resolution R071326-2
[36:32]
the redevelopment liquor license
application for Terara GR Incorporated.
[36:39]
» Okay. Good afternoon to the township
board. Kevin Austin, your DDA director.
[36:43]
Uh so I have the uh the memo there for
you guys that I'm going to roll through
[36:46]
and hit some highlights on. Um and uh
and then there I we also do have the
[36:51]
applicant here today that I will turn
over uh to summarize and give a little
[36:55]
bit more detail on the business
operation that's proposed in connection
[36:58]
to this redevelopment liquor license. Uh
so rolling through here, Ada Township
[37:02]
has received an application from Kenneth
Sun on behalf of Terra GR requesting
[37:06]
local government approval for a
redevelopment area uh liquor license for
[37:09]
the proposed restaurant at 590 ADA
Drive. Uh that is the for you guys that
[37:14]
are unaware that is the former jam and
bean recently former jam and bean. Uh
[37:18]
originally uh the one of the original
buildings here in uh in the historical
[37:23]
ADA called Rex Anony's general store. Uh
you can see some things about that in
[37:28]
the historical society as well. The
proposed establishment is located within
[37:31]
a township uh DDA. Uh it's eligible to
within an eligible redevelopment area
[37:36]
which is the DDA. The application
requires local government approval as
[37:40]
part of the MLCC licensing process. So
in accordance with the township's review
[37:44]
process for this license, uh the Ada
Township Downtown Development Authority
[37:48]
first reviewed this application on June
1526, adopted resolution DDA061526
[37:54]
TAC1 which is included in your packet uh
which is a resolution of support for
[37:58]
this application from the DDA board. Uh
the DDA's action is advisory in nature
[38:03]
and has been forwarded to you all uh as
the township board as the legislative
[38:06]
body which is authorized to adopt the
formal resolution that is required uh by
[38:11]
the MLCDC from the the local government
entity. So the applicable law is there
[38:15]
for you guys uh for redevelopment area
liquor licenses. Uh we do have several
[38:20]
that are inside the the DDA uh currently
as well. This is a process that's come
[38:24]
up probably every couple of years with
different applications as the
[38:26]
development has increased in the DDA
district. So, uh, one of the critical
[38:30]
components for your awareness and
knowledge is the redevelopment area
[38:34]
license eligibility and available
license capacity section right there.
[38:38]
The statute authorizes one redevelopment
liquor license for every million dollars
[38:42]
of qualifying investment occurring
within the redevelopment area in the
[38:45]
preceding three years uh, for every
1,000 residents of local government
[38:49]
unit. So to adopt the to document
eligibility under the statute, the
[38:54]
township assessor Stephanie Borman has
provided an affidavit certifying that a
[38:57]
qualifying investment within the
township redevelopment area totaled
[39:00]
$24,293,014
[39:04]
during the preceding three-year period
and there's an affidavit included with
[39:07]
that. Uh but that goes into the
calculation by the MLCC. This is a
[39:12]
calculation that they do, not
necessarily that we complete uh for
[39:15]
eligibility. So this does still go to
MLCC to establish whether or not uh this
[39:20]
actually is exists according to their
metrics. However, according to what's
[39:24]
been calculated with their with their
format under the statute, uh you can see
[39:28]
24.293 investment units divided by the
population is 1.69 uh which they the
[39:34]
statute does claim the greater fraction
thereof. So we have roughly two um two
[39:39]
redevelopment liquor licenses afforded
to the DDA district currently in the
[39:43]
preceding three years uh that this has
occurred. So we do have at least one for
[39:47]
this applicant uh and that was
communicated to them and and so this was
[39:51]
reviewed uh by the DDA. The proposed
business operation is is there for you
[39:55]
guys, but we do have the applicant here.
So I won't go too much into detail, but
[39:58]
you guys might be familiar with the
name. Uh this restaurant does uh does
[40:03]
have a location in Easttown uh that has
been operating successfully and I do
[40:07]
believe they had a satellite location in
downtown as well but uh Mr. Sun uh can
[40:11]
document that and talk about his uh
unique approach that he's looking to do
[40:15]
here in downtown ADA on the historic
side. So the requested licensing you
[40:19]
guys can see there is a class C on
premise license. Uh the narrative that
[40:23]
was provided by the applicant says that
they do not intend to operate a
[40:26]
traditional full service bar. Rather
that alcoholic beverages will be
[40:30]
ancillary to the restaurant operation.
Consists primarily of beer, wine, and
[40:33]
other packaged alcoholic beverages. Um
they see to have an SDM license which is
[40:37]
a specially designated merchant license
as well. We do have several of those uh
[40:40]
here in the township. Um there's the the
dining which requires at least 25
[40:45]
patrons or 25 seats indicated. And there
is a floor plan that you guys have there
[40:49]
in the in the the package as well. Um
and then looking at the building
[40:54]
rehabilitation investment that is a
critical part of uh this application
[40:58]
process under MLCC. So Coverbridge
Properties LLC which owns the property
[41:02]
has provided estimate building
improvements estimated building
[41:05]
improvement costs totaling approximately
$131,000
[41:08]
uh including floor replacement, repair,
HVAC, exterior improvements, rear
[41:12]
service entrance, ADA compliant
restrooms, utility updates, and sewer
[41:15]
improvements. uh they have a breakdown
of that included. Um the requirement is
[41:19]
$75,000 for improvement in the in the
building or in the premises that the the
[41:24]
license is tied to. So um and so uh the
community redevelopment benefits, I just
[41:29]
want to note that the the DDA reviewed
the proposal and determined that the
[41:32]
project is consistent with continued
redevelopment economic vitality of the
[41:36]
district and and then subsequently
approved the resolution and and for it
[41:40]
to you guys. Uh, so there is a a
recommended action there for you guys,
[41:43]
but uh, if there are no questions right
now, I'll still be available afterwards.
[41:47]
I'd love to get the applicant in front
of you guys to to give kind of a
[41:49]
synopsis of his of his application for
the license.
[41:53]
» Just one question before you um, sir
leave, Kevin, in regards to just in the
[41:57]
application, there's this alcohol
information management system where it
[42:01]
talks about how many are allowed and how
many are issued. I I know you touched on
[42:06]
the SD and the SDM. Mhm.
>> Uh do all these numbers make sense to
[42:11]
you? Did you get a chance to look at
these? It says 15 are allowed for this
[42:14]
merchant
and only three are issued.
[42:18]
» So you're talking about the uh the
documentation.
[42:21]
» Yes. Local government unit quota search.
So
[42:24]
» yes. So that's the that's the publicly
available information on Laura uh I
[42:28]
believe or Laura's database providing uh
what the township currently has. Uh STM
[42:33]
licenses are specially designated
merchant licenses. Those are licenses
[42:37]
that are often for like liquor stores
and things like that. Okay. Uh to
[42:40]
provide uh the sale of alcohol that is
not to be consumed on premises but is to
[42:45]
be taken somewhere else. Uh the lark
actually uh applied for this license and
[42:50]
was granted this license in conjunction
to a class C on premises license. Um it
[42:55]
was a application in 24. So they applied
for a similar thing. We are just uh
[42:59]
evaluating really the um the class C
license is what is is tied to the
[43:04]
redevelopment. Uh so I'm not exactly
sure on the numbers provided there by
[43:08]
Lara. Um we did discuss this a little
bit in DDA about quota licenses. Uh the
[43:13]
differences between those two things.
Redevelopment liquor licenses can't
[43:16]
leave uh the DDA. They can't leave the
township. Quota licenses can. So people
[43:20]
that are granted quota licenses uh they
can take those uh and go to different
[43:25]
municipalities and things like that. But
redevelopment liquor licenses are tied
[43:28]
to the development district
specifically. Um does that answer your
[43:32]
question, Treasure Mar?
>> For the most part. Yeah. I was just kind
[43:34]
of curious what that merchant liquor
store makes sense to me. So,
[43:38]
» yeah. Uh, and to expound on that a
little bit, you could ask uh Kenneth as
[43:43]
well. Uh, but they do intend on being
able to sell a certain packaged alcohol
[43:46]
under the SDM license for people to take
being that their uh their function or
[43:51]
their operation is a little bit more
geared towards that format. So,
[43:56]
okay, I'll turn it over to Mr. Sun for a
brief presentation.
[44:04]
Good afternoon everybody. My name is Ken
Sung. I'm the owner of Terra GR. I don't
[44:08]
know if you're familiar with Terra GR.
We've been open in Easttown, as Kevin
[44:11]
had indicated, since 2012. Uh we're a
farm-to-table scratch kitchen, so we
[44:16]
support
probably 20 different farmers in the
[44:20]
West Michigan area. And everything we do
is made on premises at our restaurant.
[44:24]
We're a full-ervice restaurant. And in
2020, we added a new uh uh business
[44:30]
called Terra Bagels, which is two doors
located from our Easttown location. Then
[44:36]
we opened up a second location in 2012
or 2022
[44:40]
uh in downtown GR. And with the same
philosophy, doing bagels, but everything
[44:45]
being scratch kitchen using local uh
ingredients. The concept that we we're
[44:51]
presented here with a with a location
here in Ada is we want to provide the
[44:56]
bagels during the day and then in the
evening more of our terra to go uh menu.
[45:01]
So the reason for the the class C
license would be for allow to allow uh
[45:06]
our guests to consume what we would
focus on beer and al beer and wine on
[45:11]
premises and the SDM license as we
emphasize the to-go nature of our menu
[45:17]
which is pizzas, pastas and salads.
People can have the opportunity to pick
[45:22]
up or to to purchase a a beer and wine
with their with their purchase which is
[45:26]
the concept that we've we are working
with. So it's more of a cafe than a full
[45:30]
service restaurant. and it's a little
deceptive people thinking we're going to
[45:33]
have a full service restaurant. So as a
result we are kind of going to be
[45:38]
running the business as terra kitchen
ADA kind of a hybrid of the two
[45:42]
businesses that we currently have. So to
kind of clarify things so it isn't as
[45:46]
confusing as like are you Terra Bagels
are you Terra GR this should hopefully
[45:50]
create a new a new path for us as well.
Um our uh plan for operation would be
[45:57]
from 7:00 a.m. till 3 we'll basically
run our bagels menu which would not
[46:01]
include any alcohol and then from 4
until 9 we will include more to the to-
[46:06]
go menu that we offer at Terra which
would offer the ability to again cons uh
[46:12]
enjoy uh the beer and wine on premises
as well as to to go. Um we're really
[46:17]
excited about being around the corner
here. Um, if you stop by the building,
[46:22]
you can see the the the renovations that
the Vanderbeans have put into this
[46:25]
building. It's a second gen, they're the
second gen generation owner of this
[46:29]
building. Um, as Kevin had indicated,
we're getting uh finally an HVAC system
[46:35]
in the building, ada uh bathroom, a
brand new floor, everything is going to
[46:40]
be updated in this. the outside of the
building will remain the same with, you
[46:43]
know, some painting and so forth, but
the the inside of the building will be
[46:46]
totally up to 21st century standards.
So, we're really excited about being
[46:51]
part of this community and being a local
business. We feel like it's a good fit
[46:55]
for everybody.
Any questions that I can answer for
[46:58]
anybody?
[47:03]
» I have a question. Given the the concept
[47:08]
» a pickup location in the and evening
hours.
[47:13]
How are you going to market where people
are supposed to park? It's not as if
[47:18]
it's a modern drive-thru or something.
And and are you using delivery services?
[47:24]
» We will also we will offer both uh Door
Dash and Uber Eats uh for both for
[47:29]
operations throughout the day. So, and
then we've we've actually had pretty
[47:34]
pretty good success at especially even
our downtown Grand Rapids location. We
[47:37]
don't have anything specifically listed
out as parking, but one of the things
[47:41]
that we will be doing is um we will have
um within our websites the ability for
[47:46]
for our guests to actually order order
place orders prior to pickup. So
[47:52]
basically, it'd be a really if somebody
wanted like currently right now, a lot
[47:56]
of people will place orders the evening
before for bagels and pick it up at 9:00
[48:00]
a.m. and it's basically ready for them
at 9:00 a.m. So, it's a fairly quick
[48:04]
process even though we're not a
drive-through uh operation at all.
[48:10]
It's just that the um I totally support
concept and I and I actually think we
[48:14]
have room from the mechanics of of the
parking and the and the like, but the
[48:19]
logical area is is right outside this
wall in terms of where people would
[48:24]
would come in and and and access kind of
from the rear if they're just kind of
[48:28]
trying to pick up their order and leave
or the Uber Eats guys or whatever trying
[48:31]
to pick up their orders. Has there been
any conversations like who controls that
[48:36]
parking lot?
>> So, has there been any conversations
[48:40]
between the township and and us related
to, you know, being able to to dedicate
[48:45]
five minute parking only during certain
hours in the afternoons and evenings and
[48:49]
that kind of thing? I
>> uh I would say currently Supervisor
[48:56]
Corve most of the conversations we've
had around uh that lot uh actually
[49:00]
pertain to uh some of the the joint use
of of the trash facilities and things
[49:05]
like that being that the the new
businesses coming into that corner are
[49:09]
trying to cohabitate really well in that
in that uh in that environment. And so
[49:13]
we were talking about that specifically,
but nothing uh related specifically to
[49:18]
timed parking for what assets are
currently there. Um those assets were
[49:22]
shared between uh the residential units
that are still uh on above those
[49:26]
properties and then also the the
commercial units inside of that
[49:29]
building. Uh so we have not talked about
specific timed parking or things like
[49:33]
that. I know that there's been
conversations about the um the parallel
[49:37]
spots on Ada Drive. uh that is something
that happens uh in the uh the natural
[49:43]
evolution of certain dynamic downtown
environments is that uh valuable
[49:48]
parallel parking does end up getting
times on it. Uh that's not something
[49:51]
that was necessarily recommended yet as
from our parking plan. Uh but as there
[49:56]
becomes more dynamic use in the
commercial nature of our downtown, I I
[50:01]
would say that that recommendation will
probably come up um you know maybe in
[50:04]
the near future for something like that
to make sure that that there is that
[50:07]
kind of turnover in those spaces. But we
do know that right now people do highly
[50:11]
value uh that those parking spots are
not uh uh either limited timeline or
[50:17]
something like that. But yes,
>> just because like over here where Mike
[50:22]
Ward's uh building that has the blimpies
and the hungry howies, I mean they're
[50:29]
militant about their parking staying
open and available for pickups uh by
[50:35]
people and um
>> [clears throat]
[50:39]
» I don't oppose the broader concept. I
just think that we're we if you're as
[50:43]
successful as you hope to be, I just
hope we don't have a weird kind of train
[50:47]
wreck going on out here during the
evenings. So,
[50:50]
» it's weird and very all day long.
[50:59]
» Well, that's [snorts]
I'd like to see fleshed out a little bit
[51:03]
more.
>> It is actually a good idea. I mean, I
[51:05]
don't know if that location, what you
speak of between the two buildings is
[51:08]
the perfect spot for it just because of
deliveries and whatnot. There's just a
[51:12]
lot of traffic there, but you know,
maybe in front of Lo's I think there's a
[51:15]
handicap then you could have a five
minute
[51:19]
quick in and out. It certainly makes
sense to me. I understand what you're
[51:23]
saying, Supervisor Cor. So, something to
consider.
[51:25]
» We would love it. So,
>> yeah, I bet you would. [laughter]
[51:28]
I mean definitely something we can look
at as you know we continue to look at
[51:32]
the parking plan implementation of the
parking plan and then you know even what
[51:37]
the future use of this building looks
like once the township moves. I mean
[51:41]
we're a heavy day user. Uh and then
obviously it's open at night. Um and
[51:45]
then we've got other restaurants too. So
we want to make sure whatever we do
[51:48]
we're cognizant of not only how does it
impact this business but other
[51:52]
businesses because if we put one here
then all of a sudden everyone's going to
[51:55]
want one. And so again, I think it is a
good idea. I think there's value in it.
[51:59]
Um, and definitely something that
obviously Kevin can take a look at and
[52:02]
we can look at as we move forward.
>> Any other questions I can answer?
[52:07]
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Move approval of resolution R71326-2
[52:14]
for the redevelopment liquor license
application for Terra GR Inc.
[52:19]
» support.
Moved by trustee pros, supported by
[52:22]
trustee heritz to approve resolutions
71326-2
[52:27]
for the red development liquor license
application for ter incorporated. This
[52:31]
is a roll call vote. Marco, you call the
role, please.
[52:35]
» Supervisor Cord
>> I.
[52:37]
» Ry Marco I. Treasure Moran
>> I.
[52:41]
» Trusty pros.
>> I.
[52:42]
» Trusty.
>> I.
[52:44]
» Trusty Carter
>> I.
[52:47]
» So we're all set on that.
All right, we're going to move on to um
[52:53]
11E, which is consider the letter of
engagement with Municipal Financial
[52:57]
Consultants, MFCI,
for 2026
[53:03]
municipal building financing related to
our town, new proposed town.
[53:08]
» Thank you, Supervisor Cor. Um so, as
Treasurer Moran, I have been working
[53:12]
through, you know, next steps uh as
we've um had Dixon Architecture look
[53:16]
take a look at the schematics. We wanted
to make sure we had a schedule. It made
[53:20]
sense. Um, working with um, a vendor.
Previously, we've used PFM. Um, we met
[53:26]
with PFM, MFCI, and I know Treasure
Moran met with Huntington,
[53:31]
» Huntington Bank. Um, and we felt
comfortable moving forward MFCI. I mean,
[53:35]
all the firms are qualified. All the
firms can do the work. Um, but I we
[53:40]
think we have a a good opportunity, a
good relationship with MFCI to move
[53:43]
forward uh, for a successful process. We
did include a draft schedule um because
[53:49]
I know that's the one question is what
does this really mean? Where are we at
[53:53]
in terms of uh if we're moving forward?
Uh this is the first step. Um so on the
[53:59]
schedule now that we have the letter of
engagement, the first step would be at
[54:03]
the um August 3rd, we're going to
include for the August 10th uh board
[54:08]
meeting a notice of intent. And that
would be the notice of intent of what
[54:12]
the township board's intent is for
bonding or financing the uh new township
[54:17]
hall building. You'll notice uh later in
the agenda, I've got a special work
[54:21]
special work session so that we can have
the board meet and review uh the outcome
[54:26]
of the schematic design uh review with
Dixon Architecture. But essentially,
[54:30]
this would run us through um publishing
the notice of sale in October 29th. um
[54:37]
bond closing and delivery on uh November
24th.
[54:42]
And Treasure Man, I don't know if
there's anything you'd like to add.
[54:46]
Uh no, I think uh between PFM and MFCI,
they're both wellrespected firms. And
[54:54]
again, having uh Paul Stodder, who has
been our financial consultant in the
[54:58]
past, retire, it afforded us the
opportunity to look around. and through
[55:03]
Julius's network as well as mine, we we
landed with uh Warren Kramer and MFCI.
[55:08]
So, both outstanding firms.
[55:14]
Um just some clarification because I've
never been involved in bonding
[55:20]
before.
um where it says on a on November 24th
[55:25]
there's bond closing and delivery is
that essentially
[55:30]
where the bond is approved accepted and
they actually distribute funds and then
[55:34]
we we lock the funds away and and we
control the distribution there's not
[55:38]
oversight
>> correct
[55:39]
» correct that's the days the the funds
get our bank
[55:42]
» okay
>> and it's also the day interest hurts
[55:48]
» it does
>> okay
[55:50]
» we'll talk about that in a couple
months.
[55:55]
» So, so, so that date could be funible.
But Kevin, the point I'm making is if
[55:59]
that date could be funible in the sense
that if we find that our timeline shifts
[56:03]
to the spring or something, we would
clearly want to slow this down so that
[56:08]
we're not paying interest on money. Just
unless we could invest it. Can we invest
[56:11]
the money?
>> We can.
[56:12]
» That's what I thought you were referring
to. I'm sorry. Yeah, we get charged
[56:15]
interest, but we also start earning
interest on that money.
[56:18]
» So, yes.
>> All right. So potentially depending on
[56:21]
how that would play out, the net cost of
just having the money at our disposal
[56:25]
may be plast.
>> We hope so.
[56:32]
» Okay.
[56:37]
» Government doesn't like that.
>> No.
[56:39]
» Okay. So
>> we move approval of the letter of
[56:42]
engagement with MFCI for municipal
building financing of the township hall
[56:48]
project. Second.
>> Thank you. We have a motion by trustee
[56:52]
pros supported by Carter to move forward
with the engagement with MCI for the
[56:59]
bonding for the new township all
project. All in favor signify. This is
[57:04]
this is a roll.
>> No roll.
[57:06]
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. That motion. All right. I and then uh
[57:11]
anyone opposed? Hearing none. That
motion carries. Thank you.
[57:17]
Right.
Next one is to consider the proposal
[57:21]
from FMV operations and resource
management for a water reliability and
[57:26]
asset management plan for an amount not
to exceed uh $31,800.
[57:32]
» Thank you, Supervisor Cor. Um so a
little bit of background. The township
[57:35]
needs to update its water reliability
and asset management plan. Uh it was an
[57:39]
item that was identified previous
communication with Eagle. Um we received
[57:43]
two proposals. one from Moren Brewink um
who's completed this work in the past
[57:47]
and serves as our township engineer and
then one from FMV operations and
[57:50]
resource management which is contracted
as our utility operator. Both are uh
[57:54]
capable of completing the work. Um FNV
proposes completing the work for a lot
[57:59]
lumpsum fee of $31,800.
Warren Burg proposes completing the work
[58:03]
for a not to exceed amount of $50,000.
Um
[58:08]
staff's recommendation is to move
forward to FMV operations for an amount
[58:12]
of $31,800.
Staff is also completely okay if the
[58:16]
board determined that we wanted to move
forward with more in bridging. This is a
[58:19]
little bit unique um just because uh FMV
has um as they've transitioned their
[58:25]
utility capacity and capability um
they're another resource for us to be
[58:29]
able to utilize for something like this.
And happy to answer any questions uh
[58:34]
that the board may have. And then
Stephanie Kosol with FMV is here. If you
[58:39]
have any questions for Stephanie.
>> As I've read this, this is really ironic
[58:43]
because they both are more than capable
of doing it.
[58:50]
As you said in the past, we've always
used more brink. But
[58:56]
you know, it's the money thing if
>> and it's too bad they can't team up and
[59:01]
then we work together with both. But
they're both very functional
[59:08]
and I think it would be foolish of us to
spend more than we have to
[59:17]
need a motion.
>> Yes. to make a motion then uh to uh
[59:23]
yeah to
lost it here but oh here it is to uh to
[59:30]
accept the uh proposal from FNV
operations and resource management for a
[59:36]
water reliability and asset management
plan for an amount not to exceed 31,800
[59:43]
support.
>> Thank you.
[59:45]
moved by trustee Carter supported by
treasurer Moran to you could utilize the
[59:51]
services of FND operations for water
management reliability asset management
[59:55]
plan.
>> All in favor signify by saying I
[59:59]
» I.
>> Anyone opposed? Hearing none that motion
[1:00:02]
carries unanimous.
>> All right. The next item is a
[1:00:07]
solicitation permit revocation appeal by
EcoShield.
[1:00:12]
Is there someone from Eco Shield that
like to come up and that request.
[1:00:16]
» Hello members of the board. I'm Tanner
Shuck. I'm one of the partners of Eco
[1:00:20]
Shield. Um I'm here to speak on behalf
of EcoShield. Um mostly in reference to
[1:00:28]
Skip Kenneth Navaro. He's no longer
employed by our company. He will never
[1:00:34]
be applied for again in a permit in Ada
Township. I hear that was multiple
[1:00:39]
complaints from him. Um so we've
addressed that issue. Another complaint
[1:00:44]
that I heard was somebody riding a
scooter across lawns. Um, none of our
[1:00:48]
guys ride scooters, so I'm not sure who
that was or if he was in relation to.
[1:00:54]
Um, so no scooters have been ridden. And
then, uh, I I'm fully in support of
[1:01:00]
following the rules and the guidelines
and everything like that. And I think
[1:01:03]
that when guys break it, there should be
a process. So, I fully understand all of
[1:01:08]
this. Um, in terms of the other two
solicitors that we have no complaints
[1:01:12]
on, um, I just request that we can maybe
apply for veteran solicitors that have
[1:01:20]
been with us for multiple years that
will, uh, obviously look at the rules
[1:01:24]
and regulations very strictly and avoid
those areas. Um, but I am open to any
[1:01:29]
and all support um, as well as like
recommendations for what we can do
[1:01:34]
better.
[1:01:42]
Yes, I would. Nice to meet you in
person. I'm Mark with the clerk. We've
[1:01:46]
spoke many many times on the phone.
Long story short, this is one of the
[1:01:52]
simplest and most easily understood
programs that that I've ever
[1:01:57]
encountered. And I've spent an abundance
of time with your employees going over
[1:02:03]
very remedial requirements, processes,
rules, all that. I have I have it in
[1:02:08]
writing um from Aubriana Moyes if I'm
pronouncing her name correctly.
[1:02:12]
» Yeah, she's newer to our organization.
>> She is fully fully aware of our zero
[1:02:17]
tolerance compliance. I will say that
you are mistaken when you say none of
[1:02:21]
your employees use scooters because um
I'll say they all do. Um and we've got
[1:02:26]
we have a multitude of even photos and
one of them was included in this packet
[1:02:31]
that I gave you. And it wasn't just one
solicitor. It was also after the notice
[1:02:37]
of revocation that was submitted to
Aubriana on June 16th. There were
[1:02:42]
multiple complaints after that date. One
of which is a photo of one of your
[1:02:49]
solicitors with your Echo Shield
clothing on on a scooter.
[1:02:53]
» Can you define scooter for me? Because
we ride some guys ride one wheels. Um
[1:02:58]
» okay. A scooter. Um there's all
different kinds. Yes, I will agree. But
[1:03:05]
» yeah, I think that's where the
miscommunication came from because the
[1:03:07]
communication that came down for me was
a scooter, like handlebars riding a
[1:03:11]
scooter. And that's why I said that none
of our guys ride scooters.
[1:03:15]
» If it was a onehe or like a single wheel
device
[1:03:18]
» on an apparatus,
>> okay,
[1:03:20]
» and it's moving. I don't know. Yeah, it
you receive
[1:03:25]
» a onehe. Yes. So, I mean, again, call it
what you want, but when you're standing
[1:03:30]
on an apparatus and it's moving and
you're going across people's lawns,
[1:03:35]
» there you go.
>> But again, just to just to wrap up a
[1:03:38]
real long show, I mean, I I go into the
most finite detail that you want.
[1:03:42]
» Yeah.
>> But just to wrap it all up quickly, you
[1:03:46]
guys have broken every single rule, not
once, not twice, but a multitude of
[1:03:51]
times. And the the documented complaints
that I've received don't even measure up
[1:03:57]
or or fully fulfill the calls of people
who are actually scared and they're, you
[1:04:03]
know, crying on my shoulder telling me
stories about how they were, you know,
[1:04:06]
so aggressively approached and I told
this guy I didn't want I want didn't
[1:04:10]
want his services and he just wouldn't
leave. But I don't have documentation on
[1:04:14]
those so I couldn't include them.
>> Okay?
[1:04:17]
» But I promise you as sure as I'm sitting
here, they are there.
[1:04:21]
» And and again, I mean this is not just
one solicitor. This was several that you
[1:04:26]
guys seem to have overlooked even after
you got the notice saying cease and
[1:04:30]
desist. You didn't pull your people in.
>> Yeah.
[1:04:34]
» I've gone way overboard and even on from
the words of our attorneys saying I've
[1:04:39]
never seen a situation so clean,
concise, and tightly buttoned up.
[1:04:43]
» Yeah.
>> And and the amount of time that I've
[1:04:46]
spent with your employees that from the
looks of things, you haven't. So, I
[1:04:51]
don't know what else to say, but um
I think I've gone way overboard to keep
[1:04:57]
every to keep it all compliant and in
line. And I've even fielded complaints
[1:05:02]
to Aubriana and it seems that nothing's
been done about them. So, I can't manage
[1:05:07]
your staff. I manage my own.
>> Yeah. And I think the really difficult
[1:05:10]
part here is Aubriana oversees every I
we have over 2,000 sales reps nationwide
[1:05:16]
and her communication down to me takes a
minute. And that's why I think a day
[1:05:20]
after the permits were revoked um that's
whenever she sent me the email and
[1:05:25]
that's whenever I immediately pulled the
reps from the area. So I think like
[1:05:29]
going forward my request would be this
like communication go straight to me.
[1:05:32]
I'm in market. I oversee all of these
guys. But whenever we have a chain of
[1:05:36]
command that takes like seven people
things are delayed. It's hard. I mean
[1:05:40]
you've played the the uh game telephone
before. Like everything gets
[1:05:44]
misconstrued as it goes down the line.
>> I get it. I get it. What you're saying
[1:05:47]
is we're all busy.
>> Yeah. Um, I can speak to that. I'm very
[1:05:50]
busy myself. I'm busy managing my staff
>> and my responsibilities.
[1:05:56]
» I don't have time to manage yours
>> 100%. So, I would just ask the
[1:06:00]
communication go directly through me. I
know that you had my email wrong one
[1:06:03]
time. So, I didn't get a bunch of these
emails and that's whenever Aana
[1:06:07]
» my email was uh typed wrong and so
Aubriana retied me into the email thread
[1:06:13]
in one of the emails that's in the
packet. And so I miss like half of these
[1:06:17]
communications. So
>> that would have been well I'm not going
[1:06:20]
to go there but in the beginning
>> it's um a little difficult to um to get
[1:06:26]
the handwriting that is submitted to me.
>> Okay. Yeah. But I think that was a
[1:06:31]
breakdown in like the chain of commands
as [clears throat] well.
[1:06:34]
» That was way in the beginning. We fixed
that.
[1:06:36]
» Okay.
>> I can't you talk about chain of command
[1:06:40]
issue emails. Listen we have very clear
no solication signs in neighborhoods.
[1:06:44]
including mine.
>> Yeah.
[1:06:46]
» And they are there all the time and
they're told there's no solication and
[1:06:49]
it doesn't matter. And so when you have
clear entrance at at gated communities
[1:06:53]
with clear things that say no
solicitation
[1:06:56]
» Mhm.
>> It just happens again and again and it's
[1:06:59]
not just one neighborhood, it's lots of
neighborhoods and patience for it is
[1:07:03]
over.
>> Yeah.
[1:07:04]
» I'm sorry. It's just it's just I don't
care about communication that but if if
[1:07:08]
it says clearly no solicitation is no
solicitation.
[1:07:12]
» End of discussion. I'm done. I agree.
>> Thank you. And in addition to that, may
[1:07:16]
I say we have a do not knock list
>> that I personally hand to your
[1:07:22]
solicitors. What more could we possibly
do?
[1:07:25]
» Yeah.
>> With the do not knock list, you're
[1:07:28]
saying. And your guys' do not knock list
is super fair. I mean, like Park
[1:07:32]
Township has
>> Thank you.
[1:07:33]
» hundreds and hundreds. So, it's very
difficult. So, I I would agree. My one
[1:07:38]
thing that I would like to say though is
like in terms you said that we're there
[1:07:41]
all the time. We weren't even in the
township last year. It's been two years
[1:07:45]
since we've been here. So, us being here
all the time last year was because there
[1:07:50]
were some extremely egregious behavior
on part of your staff
[1:07:53]
» two years ago.
>> That didn't end well for them.
[1:07:56]
» Yeah. And that was before I took over
this office. I took over this office
[1:08:00]
last year and we were dealing with
things from two years ago as well. So, I
[1:08:04]
can't speak on behalf of the managers
that ran the office three years ago, but
[1:08:08]
I started taking over last year. We
weren't here last year. This year we
[1:08:11]
were here for what was it? A week and a
half, two weeks.
[1:08:14]
» No, you were here for just shy of 30
days.
[1:08:17]
» Okay.
>> And then even when the revocation letter
[1:08:20]
went out, you extended that.
>> Okay. But yeah, I I don't know what the
[1:08:25]
comment was all the time that were there
because and maybe solicitors in general,
[1:08:30]
but we've been there, I mean, for a
total of max 30 days over the last two
[1:08:33]
years. So, and uh hey, I want to respect
everybody's privacy just like you guys
[1:08:39]
do. I think that private streets with no
soliciting signs at the front should be
[1:08:43]
avoided [snorts] 100%. And that's why
I'm asking like um instead of sending
[1:08:48]
Eric Claude, he's uh not being mean, but
a low IQ individual. Same thing with
[1:08:53]
Skipper. Um sending only our veterans
that have done this for years and years
[1:08:57]
that have a ton of experience. Um we
haven't had a permit revoked in any
[1:09:02]
other municipality on this side of the
state except for here. So, we've adhered
[1:09:07]
to guidelines really, really well. But I
think we've not done such a good job
[1:09:10]
here and I just want to make it better.
I want to work with you guys.
[1:09:17]
» Um I'm a [clears throat] businessman as
well in the past.
[1:09:22]
I would uh
I appreciate the fact that you have
[1:09:28]
2,000 salesmen and are giving kids a
chance to go out and make some money.
[1:09:33]
However, I too agree with Clerk DeMarco.
We've done a lot. We ended up creating a
[1:09:41]
whole
policy on how we want to handle
[1:09:46]
solicitors. In the past, we never really
affected it
[1:09:52]
» and it really didn't matter and we were
getting complaints. And then with the
[1:09:56]
stuff that happened a couple years ago,
we went and [clears throat]
[1:10:01]
clerkco did a really marvelous job of
putting together a plan that we all had
[1:10:07]
to agree to.
And
[1:10:11]
it's out there. Other communities say,
you know, we really never had it. We'd
[1:10:15]
like it. Um
I'm kind of stuck saying, you know, I
[1:10:23]
tend to agree
The third strike would certainly be a
[1:10:28]
permanent for this year is certainly no
way an H. next year basically up to her
[1:10:35]
perhaps if there were people coming in
like yourself presenting the people
[1:10:40]
going through in detail in front but
knowing it's a conditional that if
[1:10:46]
there's errors and omissions and they
are in these areas or they are knocking
[1:10:50]
or they shouldn't then that would mean
immediate
[1:10:56]
because this is a repeat thing and I
truly believe that that would be a fair
[1:11:01]
approach to this from your standpoint,
from our standpoint that this year's
[1:11:07]
100% out, but we're not here. We're in
America where we have the freedom to go
[1:11:12]
and do things, but there's rules that
have to be followed. Just like building
[1:11:17]
a house, you can't start till you have
the permits. This is the same thing. So,
[1:11:22]
I would hope you understand our
position. Um, and my only ask of perhaps
[1:11:29]
the board would be no for this year.
Maybe we'll try you again next year. I
[1:11:34]
know it's really kind of that she
doesn't want you back because she's
[1:11:37]
wasted a lot of time on it.
>> Yeah.
[1:11:39]
» But I also know that
>> with proper supervision and that we've
[1:11:45]
had one strike, this is two. Do we go
three strikes? You're out of the ball
[1:11:49]
game permanently.
>> That's my kind of recommendation.
[1:11:53]
» Yeah. and I fully respect and understand
that too. Um, my one question is the
[1:11:59]
majority of the concerns came up with
Skipper or Kenneth Navaro.
[1:12:03]
» It doesn't matter who who your employee
is. Okay?
[1:12:06]
» If it's one, he's a representative of
you, right?
[1:12:09]
» If you've got a bad apple in the bunch
as a management, your your job, the
[1:12:13]
weakest link in your chain can screw up
everything. So, we're not out to point
[1:12:19]
one individual. That's your job.
>> Yeah. I just mean he's been terminated.
[1:12:23]
» It doesn't matter.
>> He's been terminated.
[1:12:25]
» It doesn't matter. You broke the link.
The link was that individual. So for
[1:12:29]
this year, there's no way I would would
go I would go with Joe on this
[1:12:34]
completely and say I'm sorry.
>> Okay.
[1:12:36]
» Next year I would say perhaps but one
time. One time
[1:12:41]
» and it would be revoked.
>> Yeah.
[1:12:43]
» Joe, is that something that's
reasonable?
[1:12:46]
» Thank you very much. I really appreciate
that.
[1:12:50]
When you say it was one person. It was
not excuse me it was not
[1:12:54]
» okay
>> read read the sub what I have submitted
[1:12:57]
to you
>> okay
[1:12:58]
» and please understand
there have been so many more calls
[1:13:04]
and people coming in complaining and
I've asked them to document them and for
[1:13:10]
whatever maybe they don't they don't
want to they don't have time no I came
[1:13:12]
here that's why I came here I came here
to tell you this I cannot tell you how
[1:13:17]
many of those verbal complaints that
we've received it Not just one person,
[1:13:22]
» okay?
>> And it's the same thing over and over
[1:13:24]
again. No solicitation zones. I'm on the
do not neck list. They came anyway. One
[1:13:30]
snuck up behind me. Read the material
that I've submitted to you.
[1:13:33]
» I did read that one um where they were
outside.
[1:13:36]
» This is so much I took an oath to
protect the residents of Ada and this
[1:13:42]
falls right in line with that. And I
live here too and I don't want to be
[1:13:46]
bothered either. And I want you to know
solicitors knocked on my door
[1:13:49]
» and it didn't end well for them.
>> Okay?
[1:13:51]
» Because they were they were not even
permitted. Not your company. I'm just
[1:13:55]
saying.
>> Okay?
[1:13:58]
» This is a business model that has gone
wonky.
[1:14:03]
It's up to you to correct that.
>> But please understand that townships
[1:14:07]
have a requirement to protect their
citizens. And I'll also throw in that
[1:14:12]
many other townships around here have
adopted the same policies and procedures
[1:14:16]
that we put in place here and I'm very
proud of that.
[1:14:20]
» So I will ask you to rethink and sit
down and talk to your employees and
[1:14:25]
maybe you need to redesign your policies
and procedures
[1:14:30]
» enforcement.
>> Yeah, we did this year and there's a
[1:14:33]
huge change that's happened. I mean,
just uh my LLC here in in Grand Rapids
[1:14:38]
has spent over $200,000 in permitting um
throughout the Detroit markets. So, we
[1:14:44]
are we're we're trying to make leaps and
bounds. We're trying to move forward.
[1:14:47]
We're trying to be as compliant as
possible. That's our 100% goal.
[1:14:51]
» Well, maybe this is a learning
experience for you to take it one step
[1:14:54]
further.
>> Yeah.
[1:14:58]
» So, I I don't know if there's a motion.
>> We would need Yeah. I mean, so
[1:15:03]
ultimately there would be a motion to
deny the appeal if there's a desire or a
[1:15:10]
motion to grant the appeal if there was
a desire to go that way.
[1:15:13]
» I'm perfectly fine with next year, guys.
I I'm not asking for forgiveness and
[1:15:18]
letting us to get back into the township
like this year. I'm just here to let you
[1:15:22]
guys know like I'm I am hearing you guys
I do agree. I think that we need to
[1:15:27]
follow rules better and I've terminated
guys this year just off of that. So,
[1:15:32]
we're headed in the right direction.
Next year is fine with me. Um, I'm not
[1:15:37]
even I don't even need you guys to hear
me out this year. I just want you guys
[1:15:40]
to know that I am hearing what you're
saying. I do agree it shouldn't come
[1:15:44]
down to your time. You shouldn't have to
police other people. You shouldn't have
[1:15:47]
to police uh other companies and we
should be better. I just ask that next
[1:15:52]
year we can apply.
>> Thank you.
[1:15:55]
» Yes.
Well, then I will uh deny the appeal
[1:16:00]
uh for any service yet this year. Any
more uh
[1:16:05]
what's it called?
>> All you're doing is appealing or uh
[1:16:09]
denying the appeal as
>> denying the appeal. But I think there
[1:16:13]
was in the appeal here
>> it was for permanent. We don't want to
[1:16:17]
be permanent, right? No, I mean I would
I would think it's for the current year
[1:16:20]
and then obviously any future permit
requests would be under the discretion
[1:16:24]
of the clerk.
>> Thank you.
[1:16:27]
» So that's my motion.
>> I'll second that.
[1:16:36]
Trusty Carter to deny the request appeal
for the current uh year
[1:16:45]
but allow a reapplication in 2027 with
approval at the discretion of the clerk.
[1:16:53]
» Is that it correctly?
>> Right. So all in favor of that motion
[1:16:58]
signify by saying I.
>> I.
[1:17:00]
» Anyone opposed?
hearing none. That motion carries.
[1:17:06]
Thank you everyone. That one good.
All right. So, moving on to schedule the
[1:17:12]
special work session to review revised
size of the proposed township hall
[1:17:16]
following work by Dixon Architecture.
So, I think Julius, you're going to give
[1:17:19]
us a bit of an update planning here,
right?
[1:17:22]
» Yes. Super supervisor, sorry, trying to
get to the slide. Um, yeah. So,
[1:17:27]
obviously we've now engaged with MFCI.
We're starting down the path of of
[1:17:32]
potentially um bonding.
Uh Ken Dixon from Dixon Architecture met
[1:17:37]
with uh department heads and met with
staff. Um and right now we're sitting uh
[1:17:43]
he's taken the 24,000 foot building to
about 18,255
[1:17:47]
feet with an extra 2,000 square feet
that is still white space. So really in
[1:17:53]
alignment with the original 16,000
square foot space need study that we
[1:17:57]
completed uh three years ago. Um, but
obviously before we bring uh
[1:18:02]
documentation to the board to notice of
intent to bond or what that amount looks
[1:18:05]
like, we want to make sure we present
this to the board um have the revised uh
[1:18:10]
plans even, you know, reviewed by
department heads and staff. And so I'd
[1:18:13]
like the authorization to schedule a
special work session uh based on board
[1:18:17]
availability to review that draft
schematic design so that we can keep
[1:18:22]
this moving forward at the August
meeting. Moved
[1:18:26]
» second.
All right, thank you. So, we have a
[1:18:30]
motion to set a special meeting
Julius to help us figure out those
[1:18:35]
dates.
>> Um,
[1:18:39]
lost who who moved on it?
>> I second.
[1:18:42]
» Trust moved on it supported by trusty
Carter.
[1:18:47]
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Opposed. None. That motion carries.
[1:18:54]
Okay. So, we're now on to department
reports. The first one we'll start with
[1:18:58]
is township manager report. Would you
like to go through?
[1:19:01]
» Yep. [clears throat] Just a couple
items. Um, one I wanted to bring up the
[1:19:04]
King County Road Commission public
hearing uh that is scheduled for
[1:19:08]
tomorrow 7:14 at 6 p.m. here in the
assembly hall. Um,
[1:19:14]
the township I've communicated with um
Jerry Burn from the township or from the
[1:19:19]
road commission. Originally, the road
commission had a policy that outlined
[1:19:24]
natural beauty roads. Um, at their June
meeting, I believe following our
[1:19:29]
continued persistence that they could do
what we wanted them to do without
[1:19:34]
removal of the natural beauty road
designation, they updated their policy
[1:19:38]
to require removal of a natural beauty
road designation if this type of work is
[1:19:44]
completed. Um, and so it's a little bit
of a conund conundrum because the
[1:19:50]
township has spoken previously about
being opposed to the NBR designation
[1:19:54]
being removed. I don't necessarily want
to submit a letter indicating that the
[1:19:59]
township is opposed to the NBR
designation being removed because
[1:20:02]
essentially if the township is against
that then there's no point in the
[1:20:06]
engineering moving forward and there's
no point in the conversation continuing.
[1:20:11]
The other option is is not doing
anything. saying, I mean, the road
[1:20:14]
commission knows our position. Uh, we
can let the public hearing happen.
[1:20:17]
They'll make a decision at their
following meeting or I could provide a
[1:20:21]
letter um indicating we support moving
forward with this process, getting the
[1:20:26]
engineering, and if the if the only way
to complete any improvements to the road
[1:20:30]
is removal of the MBR, then obviously
that's within the discretion of the road
[1:20:35]
commission, not up to us. Um I'm going
to be traveling up to a conference
[1:20:39]
tomorrow evening and um because it is
just a public hearing listening to
[1:20:43]
comments was not planning on attending.
I don't know if board members plan on
[1:20:47]
attending but I wanted to get a sense
from the board if if there was a strong
[1:20:52]
desire for us to issue a written
statement to the the road commission or
[1:20:56]
not.
[1:20:59]
Julius, I just want the residents to be
satisfied with the condition of the
[1:21:04]
road, whether that applies to having
>> the designation there or not.
[1:21:10]
» It's it's how do we get the road to be
the way it should be and make the
[1:21:13]
residents happy,
>> let's be honest. if they're we want them
[1:21:17]
to do it right and per the residents
and if the only way that that's going to
[1:21:23]
be achieved is the removal of the
natural beauty road
[1:21:31]
then I'd say we have to go for that and
they say that we would be in favor of it
[1:21:37]
but there's still the goal is that they
wouldn't come in and clearcut for 10
[1:21:42]
foot on each side that they would do the
minimal necessary
[1:21:47]
» to preserve as much as possible
>> and ultimately anything that is I mean
[1:21:52]
once the engineering is complete we
would be presented with what that plan
[1:21:55]
would be and if the township's not
supported at that time then we then the
[1:21:59]
township just doesn't have to fund it
>> and then you know we've spoken or the
[1:22:03]
board has spoken and so there is still
avenues
[1:22:06]
» sure and we need and we need that if
>> um if it they find out that the
[1:22:11]
engineering when they look at the
engineering plans
[1:22:15]
that we don't like it, the residents
don't like it, that we can stop it. So I
[1:22:19]
would say certainly in my opinion that
we would
[1:22:22]
» speak of another road
>> commission
[1:22:26]
before we would we would get all that
engineering work though with the natural
[1:22:31]
beauty uh designation already have been
removed.
[1:22:34]
» So they need to make a decision within
30 days or at the next regular meeting.
[1:22:39]
So uh their next regular meeting is in
the beginning of August. uh I don't
[1:22:43]
believe the engineering will be complete
by then. So they would have to make a
[1:22:46]
decision. Now the road commission could
make the decision to not remove the
[1:22:49]
natural beauty road designation at this
time pending
[1:22:53]
whatever comes out of the engineering
>> and you know ultimately that's what
[1:22:57]
it'll be because if
>> is that a recommendation we could make
[1:23:01]
» so we could ask that and we could say
you know we appreciate the original
[1:23:05]
petition for the NBR designation to be
removed but we would request that the
[1:23:10]
road commission deny it as it currently
sits to just remove it instead waiting
[1:23:15]
until the engineering is
for the conversation to continue.
[1:23:19]
» I I think that might be the best
approach. I think, you know, in talking
[1:23:22]
to different neighbors there, um and and
there's a lot of people that want to see
[1:23:26]
it pave, but then when you say, well,
you know, your the arborite you have
[1:23:31]
there, they're going to be gone. You
know, that tree that you have there,
[1:23:34]
that's going to be gone. And you it's
like, wait a minute, what what are you
[1:23:37]
saying? And uh you know, they're going
to put uh you know, he he mentioned that
[1:23:42]
they're going to have to probably put
ditches in. Okay. And the and the
[1:23:47]
residents that are there, I don't think
understand that a lot of them. And so
[1:23:51]
that's why I think it would be better to
do that and get the engineering report
[1:23:56]
so people can see this is what's going
to happen if we go forward with this and
[1:24:00]
make sure they totally agree. Otherwise,
I see that uh if we go through and do
[1:24:05]
this, I think you're going to end up
with some people going, I never
[1:24:08]
understood what was going to happen
>> and I feel I got this ramrod down my
[1:24:13]
throat. I I totally think you're correct
in that and that's why I'm saying let
[1:24:19]
them take it off with the condition that
get the engineering done. We'll have the
[1:24:25]
public look at it.
>> We'll describe it.
[1:24:28]
» Maybe let the let the engineering
somebody walk the engineering and see
[1:24:33]
what how it affects quote them
>> and then if they still want it now we
[1:24:39]
know that we can proceed. And if they
don't want it, well then uh we know what
[1:24:44]
how to
>> but I'm confused a little bit on what
[1:24:47]
you said.
>> We've been talking about trying to have
[1:24:50]
the designation left alone while
engineering is done and allowing
[1:24:54]
» other
kind of spoke. He did
[1:24:58]
» that's I think what he means.
>> Yeah.
[1:25:00]
» But they're not going to do that though.
Well, so what I would request, I mean,
[1:25:04]
what I'm basing, you know, on the
board's feedback right now is that I
[1:25:08]
would communicate a letter to the road
commission to be part of the public
[1:25:11]
record for tomorrow is that the township
would request that any removal of the
[1:25:15]
MBR designation um be denied or or not,
you know, not removed at this time until
[1:25:22]
engineering is complete and a plan can
be presented to residents to fully
[1:25:26]
understand the scope and impact of any
potential project.
[1:25:30]
» There you But they just initiated in
initiated a policy saying that you know
[1:25:35]
the MBR has to be
>> correct and it could be once the
[1:25:39]
engineering is done. I think the concern
from some of the board members is if
[1:25:42]
they move forward in August with we
remove the NBR and the engineering is
[1:25:47]
not done for a couple months and then
the engineering or the proposed
[1:25:50]
improvements are more significant than
people think then the NBR has already
[1:25:56]
been removed and then maybe the township
board says we're not moving forward with
[1:25:59]
these improvements or the residents push
back and then the MBR is already removed
[1:26:04]
» and we would only have say at that point
in time if they wanted 50% of our money
[1:26:09]
» which they They will.
>> Yeah. For improvement if you're certain
[1:26:11]
for that.
>> Yes, they are. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And
[1:26:12]
that's what Jerry's communicated to me
when I've pushed back is he said at the
[1:26:16]
end of the day you guys are going to
have the final say because if you don't
[1:26:19]
fund the 50% we're not going to move
forward.
[1:26:22]
» Then why move the goalpost? That's what
I I think bothers me a little bit is
[1:26:25]
that you know we agreed to pay for half
the engineering even before having to
[1:26:29]
remove this this designation. Now they
basically created a policy. So their
[1:26:35]
credibility to me is somewhat suspect in
regards to u what's going on here.
[1:26:41]
Frankly,
>> I think you know I think they probably
[1:26:44]
quite frankly to put it bluntly were
getting irritated that I kept bringing
[1:26:47]
up that they could do what we wanted
them to do without removal of NBR.
[1:26:51]
» And even though our attorneys and legal
counsel felt that was appropriate, they
[1:26:57]
indicated that theirs did not. And I
said, "But if you read the state law,"
[1:27:01]
and so the way to handle this was they
updated their policy. So it became in
[1:27:05]
their eyes less of a gray area. But I
agree it it felt disingenuous because we
[1:27:10]
weren't notified that suddenly the NBR
policy was up for reviewer discussion at
[1:27:15]
the board meeting uh for the road
commission and there was only one piece
[1:27:18]
that was changed and it was related
specifically to the NBR and improvements
[1:27:23]
being made on road.
[1:27:28]
It's just my concern that you know they
Yeah, forget the 50% of the township
[1:27:33]
money. We're going to do what we want.
Go. We've done the engineering. The MBR
[1:27:37]
is removed
>> and you guys have your paved road.
[1:27:41]
» I
think you're right, Kevin. But I do
[1:27:44]
think that if we come forward with this
recommendation from the start.
[1:27:49]
» Well, it's just a recommendation. I
mean, it's not going to do anything. I
[1:27:51]
mean,
>> well, it does one thing. It
[1:27:53]
» It's on record.
>> Yeah. And it puts us in better light
[1:27:56]
with the residents that we're
>> they just want the road fixed and I
[1:28:00]
don't think that they were aware of what
the options were. I think going back to
[1:28:03]
the beginning they thought that the only
option for them was to get the road but
[1:28:08]
Julius has done a phenomenal job of
putting a lot of information out to the
[1:28:12]
residents and everything and there's
been discussion and meetings you know
[1:28:14]
and all that. So now they know that they
have there's other ways to go about it.
[1:28:19]
So, as long as they know that our main
objective is to have the road fixed
[1:28:24]
properly, but then there's this other
issue, that's up to the engineering and
[1:28:29]
them.
>> I think write the letter.
[1:28:33]
» Yeah.
[1:28:37]
» And I mean, I've spoken to residents who
want to see the road paved. I've spoken
[1:28:41]
to people who want to see improvements
to gravel road. And I've seen people
[1:28:44]
I've had people reach out and said,
"Don't touch the road. I moved here
[1:28:48]
because I want people's cars to rattle
when they go 35. Uh and and you know,
[1:28:53]
and they don't speak for everyone. And
so it's a big cross-section. So um you
[1:28:58]
know, it'll be interesting to see what
the feedback is tomorrow. And we've
[1:29:00]
communicated to the residents um what
the public hearing tomorrow is, what
[1:29:06]
we've done already with the road
commission in terms of approving
[1:29:08]
approving engineering um and so we can
continue to communicate with them as
[1:29:11]
well.
Um, next item I want to thank uh, John
[1:29:18]
said. So, as you might have noted uh, in
his planning director report, uh, John
[1:29:23]
has indicated his retirement. Um, for a
date no later than December 31, 2026.
[1:29:30]
So, he's given us a long runway and I I
appreciate that. But, I just want to
[1:29:34]
thank John. Um, he's been a a tremendous
asset to the team. Um he's shephered
[1:29:40]
master plan update, zoning ordinance
update. Um has been just a wonderful
[1:29:45]
team player and really appreciated
working with him. Um so just want to say
[1:29:49]
thank you, John.
>> Thank you.
[1:29:51]
» Um want to take a second to introduce uh
a new intern, Adam Buckwalter. Adam, if
[1:29:56]
you want to give ways a wave. Um so Adam
is here. Um he is currently a BYU
[1:30:01]
student uh in psychology but potentially
interested in pursuing a career in
[1:30:06]
municipal government. His dad is heavily
involved uh at Grand Valley um with the
[1:30:11]
MPA program and has uh been instrumental
in us having a really good relationship
[1:30:15]
with Grand Valley and having good
interns. So um he is currently working
[1:30:19]
on um some donation policy pieces um
music on the lawn, some sponsorship
[1:30:24]
pieces. Um as we continue to evolve as a
community, we get new requests that uh
[1:30:29]
fall sometimes outside the parameters
what we're used to. So we've got to make
[1:30:33]
sure we clean some of this up with
policies uh for our staff. Um, and then
[1:30:38]
finally, just wanted to note that the
township has received uh the NRA
[1:30:43]
inspection of the Kent Conser Kent
County Conservation League Gun Club. Um,
[1:30:47]
I did share that uh via email with the
board. Um, staff has not had an
[1:30:52]
opportunity to review yet with legal
counsel. We are planning on doing that
[1:30:56]
in the um next few days. Um, one of the
pieces that is unique is that the uh NRA
[1:31:03]
has indicated that this is a copyrighted
report and so it is not subject to
[1:31:08]
public release. Um, which we disagree
with. Um, so we are working with our
[1:31:13]
legal council to ensure that any release
of this is appropriate and does not put
[1:31:18]
the township in hot water. I've
communicated it to the residents who are
[1:31:22]
interested in the release of this report
um because we we want to be transparent
[1:31:27]
with them. that was always the plan. Um,
we were not expecting uh this hiccup,
[1:31:31]
but we want to make sure that we do our
due diligence in understanding the full
[1:31:35]
legal ramifications. Um, we've also
received a media request for a copy of
[1:31:39]
the report and so uh we need to make
sure we handle that accordingly. So,
[1:31:43]
just wanted to make that aware uh make
everyone aware and you do have a copy of
[1:31:47]
it. So, we will be reviewing um and then
discussing um hopefully uh you know,
[1:31:52]
we'll have some updates at the August
meeting for um what action or or what
[1:31:56]
can be done, what needs to be done. Um I
know the gun club uh also has
[1:32:02]
conversations they'd like to have with
the township about changes to operations
[1:32:05]
and different things and so um we'll
need to vet all that and go through that
[1:32:10]
as as we move forward. So, just want to
communicate that
[1:32:14]
and that's all I have. I'm happy to
answer any questions uh if the board has
[1:32:18]
» them.
[1:32:26]
Just one other item. Sorry. So, a couple
years ago we made a a small decision
[1:32:31]
that probably seemed really really in
insignificant but it has gone a long way
[1:32:35]
and this is the temporary speed data
signs. Um, I know when we took it to the
[1:32:40]
buildings grounds utility committee, I
know there was concern about, you know,
[1:32:43]
us tracking more data and and, um, you
know, how were we going to use it, where
[1:32:47]
were we going to place it, but I will
say, um, when a resident reaches out and
[1:32:51]
expresses a concern, you know, the first
thing they say is, "Everyone's going 60
[1:32:55]
miles an hour. Everyone's, you know,
going this and and so we say, hey, we're
[1:32:58]
going to put a speed reader out. We're
going to we're going to monitor it and
[1:33:01]
then we're going to get a report and
then we're going to provide you a copy."
[1:33:04]
Uh, and so I've provided kind of a
sample um that we had on I believe that
[1:33:09]
was on Scar Bro. And so only one vehicle
traveled between 41 and 45 miles an
[1:33:14]
hour. Um 93.52%
were traveling under 25 uh and slower.
[1:33:20]
And so it does feel good when we do see
this kind of information because we're
[1:33:24]
dealing with data and not the anecdotal.
Um, and so this is helpful and we share
[1:33:29]
this with res residents and I can
communicate with the resident and tell
[1:33:33]
them that we work with the road comm or
work with the sheriff's department and
[1:33:36]
all this when I send them a copy of this
report
[1:33:40]
the tone changes a little bit in terms
of wow I didn't realize that I didn't
[1:33:44]
» is it because of the sign?
>> Um, so you know we've talked about that.
[1:33:48]
Um that's one of the pieces is well
people slow down because they see the
[1:33:52]
sign and I would say well then it's
working but also we do move them around
[1:33:55]
so when the sign is not down so we have
had conversations about could we get um
[1:34:00]
speed uh data collection that is not
visible and so we're having some of
[1:34:06]
those conversations. It's not an
immediate priority but it could be
[1:34:08]
something we look at uh in conjunction
with the road commission. They have the
[1:34:11]
ability to do so. Um but you know we we
even change whether it's west facing,
[1:34:17]
east facing, we work with residents and
so when residents reach out um it's one
[1:34:21]
of the first things we offer and a lot
of them have been very very satisfied.
[1:34:24]
So um hopefully it's all of those
things. Uh as we're seeing pedestrian uh
[1:34:30]
even vehicle behavior change in the
downtown with our slender bender signs.
[1:34:34]
Um you know sometimes it is uh just
continuing to put it in front of them
[1:34:39]
and reminding them that um they need to
slow down is is really important. and
[1:34:42]
stuff. Just wanted to highlight that. I
know the board deals with millions of
[1:34:46]
dollars of expenditures. I think the
speed data signs were $6,000
[1:34:51]
uh that we purchased years ago and they
have been instrumental in our ability to
[1:34:55]
communicate and and work with the
public.
[1:34:57]
» Yeah. One thing off subject that really
I thought was cool and worth mentioning.
[1:35:02]
I love the videos that you sent around
bridge installation
[1:35:09]
» and uh that really has gone well.
[1:35:17]
» Thank you for everything.
>> Okay, so we've got several other reports
[1:35:22]
from um department heads. Does anybody
want to talk about anything specific
[1:35:27]
there? Or also do any department heads
want to come up and speak specifically
[1:35:32]
to
[1:35:38]
» All right. Good afternoon, the township
board. Kevin Austin, DDA director. Um, I
[1:35:42]
just wanted to take a moment to
acknowledge uh the the entire staff's
[1:35:46]
effort on the 250th 4th of July. Um, I
looked at some data. We had about 11,000
[1:35:51]
people in downtown ADA from 8:00 a.m.
till about midnight. So, a full day's
[1:35:56]
worth of events. Uh, for reference, when
ABA puts on some of their biggest
[1:36:01]
events, uh, i.e. pumpkin prowl and
tinsel treats and trolleys, you know, we
[1:36:05]
get probably 8,000 9,000 people, but
they have probably a staff of 20 to 30
[1:36:11]
volunteers or so, uh, or more. And I
think we had 16 staff members uh
[1:36:16]
including uh the fantastic parks
department with their seasonal staff uh
[1:36:20]
the BFG. Um also uh you know my my
intern Sophie Treasure Moran Julius
[1:36:27]
Suchi was out there as well. Um so I
just want to make sure you guys are
[1:36:31]
aware that to make sure that those guys
get their attention. Um it was a
[1:36:35]
fantastic event. 47 different uh floats
that participated in the parade. Harkup
[1:36:41]
was involved. They said it was one of
their favorite parades that they've been
[1:36:44]
a part of to be inside of and witness.
Um so lots of people came through. No
[1:36:48]
safety issues, no logistical failures.
Um the couple of children were were
[1:36:55]
linked up with their parents when they
were lost by Ethan Angel. Uh they had a
[1:36:58]
good system for that with the bike
parade. There are a lot of great
[1:37:01]
pictures that we got if you guys haven't
seen them. Um really great effort, but
[1:37:05]
about 16 staff members made that happen
uh for about 11,000 people throughout
[1:37:09]
the course of the day. Uh, I know we got
on a lot of people's radar for the
[1:37:12]
parade and for a lot of different
things. So, uh, kudos to the entire
[1:37:16]
staff and and also for the township
board for investing in um, in the 250th
[1:37:20]
this year to make it as successful as it
was. So,
[1:37:24]
» it was being around ADA for a long time.
That was by far the best parade and in
[1:37:32]
day.
So, definitely good job.
[1:37:36]
I've had several
people comment to me exact same that it
[1:37:44]
executed flawlessly. You guys worked
your tails off and then it was without
[1:37:47]
question the best
that we've had perhaps ever. So, thank
[1:37:53]
you to everyone who was part of very
very much appreciated.
[1:38:02]
Comments from anyone
>> I just wanted to mention that um photos
[1:38:06]
that I that I gave you all for the
cemetery. Um that happened after the
[1:38:10]
fact after I submitted my report. Um
this month we've been inundated with
[1:38:15]
election preparation and just a reminder
early voting starts July 25th. So we're
[1:38:19]
really up to our ears in that. Um but
then over the July 4th of July weekend
[1:38:24]
we had um a little inclement weather and
the result is which of which I sent
[1:38:29]
these pictures to you.
This unfortunately was a very large
[1:38:33]
tree, but it was not in the cemetery. If
you noticed, it was on private property.
[1:38:38]
It fell over the fence. This is what
happens when trees are dead and
[1:38:42]
diseased. And FYI, there's a few more of
these inside Finley Cemetery that
[1:38:48]
they're quite large and they're, you
know, I mean, I submitted information um
[1:38:52]
to hopefully remove them as soon as we
can. And I know that sounds upsetting
[1:38:57]
and not caring, but again, this is the
result of and weather when trees are not
[1:39:03]
as healthy as they should be. So, we
have to go back out because it's still
[1:39:07]
laying there like that. Um, I have to
take better pictures and investigate
[1:39:12]
headstone damage and whatnot. So, I'm
going to get better pictures and then
[1:39:16]
get it cleared out as soon as possible
and then reach out to two potential
[1:39:22]
residents whose property this actually
was on. We have a we have a really good
[1:39:26]
idea. one of our I call him the Finley
secretary guru, John Dystra. Thank you,
[1:39:32]
Dennis, for for letting us borrow him as
often as we do. Um, he knows that area.
[1:39:38]
He can he can walk it and name everybody
in there in his sleep. Um, we are pretty
[1:39:43]
sure we have the residential address for
the people who own this part of the
[1:39:48]
property where the tree fell. So, just
wanted to show you in detail. Here's
[1:39:52]
what happens when trees are around
longer than they should be.
[1:40:00]
Thank you.
[1:40:03]
» What's the status of the parking lot?
>> Um, you mean next to the lift station?
[1:40:10]
» 10 spaces we lost.
>> Oh, 10. Um, so once it's backfilled,
[1:40:12]
John, I don't know. I know. I saw him
removing forms today, so I would assume
[1:40:16]
it's going to be back filled shortly.
Uh, and then those 10 spaces will be
[1:40:19]
back in.
>> Not no repair work has been done part.
[1:40:22]
Okay.
>> No, it was done more as a precaution,
[1:40:24]
you know.
we we could have been okay, but um they
[1:40:29]
went a lot longer than we thought in
terms of pulling the permit and then
[1:40:33]
actually pouring for them. So, we
communicated with them. They came out
[1:40:36]
and they um
did what they could to uh put up
[1:40:41]
supports. Um but we just thought, you
know, we're going to play it safe so
[1:40:44]
that we don't run into a bigger issue
for ourselves.
[1:40:46]
» Thank you.
>> And before we go, could I introduce our
[1:40:49]
new administrative assistant, the lovely
young lady sitting back there with the
[1:40:52]
black hair, Emma Hondorf. She's met you
all per video
[1:40:57]
there. Just please stop by and say
hello.
[1:41:01]
» Welcome aboard.
[1:41:05]
» Is there any other board member comment?
>> I I got one thing. Um I got to
[1:41:12]
experience the emergency services of the
township and uh I wanted to say thanks
[1:41:19]
but I see all the emergency guys are
gone.
[1:41:23]
Uh
>> yeah, they had an emergency.
[1:41:26]
» But uh yeah, you really you end up
really appreciating what the uh what the
[1:41:31]
township offers and the value of that.
Uh you know, when you're in a in a a
[1:41:38]
tough situation,
and mine ended up not being that bad. It
[1:41:44]
was almost embarrassing.
You know, they show up, they haul me
[1:41:48]
away in an ambulance, and it turns out
to be a back spasm that I had. And I
[1:41:53]
thought it was, in fact, I asked them,
"Please throw something else in there."
[1:41:59]
[laughter]
Bullet wound
[1:42:02]
bullet wound. [laughter]
>> But anyway, I very much appreciate the
[1:42:09]
the services we have here at
>> you know, just a word on that. You can't
[1:42:13]
believe we This is a years ago going
into history when we wanted to take the
[1:42:19]
fire department from day only to a
24-hour shift. We got so much push back,
[1:42:28]
but it was within
probably
[1:42:32]
five or six months after doing it. We
received nothing but letters and thank
[1:42:37]
yous. And you know, um we are a
community that cares and that really
[1:42:43]
shows it.
Glad you're doing well, Dan.
[1:42:48]
» Yeah.
[1:42:53]
» Just like to make a comment. Uh the
director um said that first off, we
[1:43:01]
still got about six months to do, so
this is not goodbye. But but at the
[1:43:06]
moment, uh the fact that you you made
the announcement, I want to say what a
[1:43:10]
pleasure it's been working with you
through the years. and um
[1:43:14]
certainly was a change from our previous
planner who was here many many years,
[1:43:19]
but you you've added a whole framework
and organization of the community that's
[1:43:22]
really really appreciated and um so I'm
looking very forward to all your work
[1:43:26]
over the next several months to finish
up what you your your kind of your uh
[1:43:30]
your your most important piece of work
here at the township. And so just want
[1:43:34]
to say thank you.
>> Yeah, I'd echo that as well.
[1:43:41]
same. But I was going to say you can't
leave. [laughter]
[1:43:50]
» Frankly, I'm a bit envious.
[laughter]
[1:43:55]
[snorts]
>> All right. Uh, anything else from
[1:43:56]
anyone? Okay. So, we'll go on to just um
an opportunity for additional public
[1:44:01]
comment. Would any members of the public
like to come up at this point and speak
[1:44:04]
to us for a few minutes?
[1:44:09]
My name is Adam Finstra with Fenstro
Associates and I was here with uh Mr.
[1:44:13]
Dave Woods uh the owners of and
developer of the 68 Hills the reszone.
[1:44:19]
Um I'm a little disappointed that we
weren't given an opportunity to provide
[1:44:23]
a counterpoint to the um presentation
given by the planner. Um
[1:44:30]
I the only reason why we even submitted
this was because the master plan changed
[1:44:35]
this area from real residential to
neighborhood residential 3 years ago. Um
[1:44:41]
so we thought this was what you guys
wanted and now um
[1:44:46]
we're being told that that change was a
mistake evidently. So um if that's the
[1:44:51]
way it is, I guess that's the way it is.
But I would request that you guys um
[1:44:54]
make sure your master plan is up to date
with what you actually want.
[1:45:00]
Thank you.
[1:45:03]
Anyone else?
[1:45:06]
Go ahead and close the uh second public
comment and ask for a motion to adjurnn.
[1:45:13]
» So move
>> second motion by trusted supported by
[1:45:17]
trust to adjourn.
[1:45:22]
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.
[1:45:25]
» Anyone opposed? Hearing none, that
motion carries. So, we're finished for
[1:45:28]
today. Thank you.