Transcript
SOURCE TRANSCRIPT
This transcript is downloaded from the source you provided but we haven't reviewed it for accuracy. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record. You can also request an AI-transcription of the audio file with the button to the left.
These are YouTube's auto-generated captions, not a human transcript — expect occasional errors, especially with names and technical terms.
[0:00]
work session.
>> Okay. Um throughout the last few years,
[0:07]
I think there's been different times
that council has either been made aware
[0:11]
of interested um individuals uh
volunteering on our advisory boards or
[0:17]
sometimes I think you've accidentally
even interviewed some individuals that
[0:21]
would have been a great addition to an
advisory board only to find out that
[0:25]
they don't live in Alamosa County. Um,
and what we've run into a few times is
[0:32]
individuals that might work full-time or
own a business, but they don't live in
[0:36]
Alamosa County, which means they're not
eligible. Or we may have individuals
[0:41]
that live in Alamosa County um, but
they're working um, at center or
[0:47]
somewhere else and and they don't have
that other nexus and therefore couldn't
[0:52]
qualify to be on our advisory board. And
let me back up a little bit. Our
[0:57]
advisory boards used to be that you had
to live within the city limits and
[1:02]
council at one point in time felt like
you know there's a lot of great minds
[1:07]
out there that care about the community
want to volunteer why don't we take the
[1:11]
step of opening that up a little bit and
what we did is we took it to the voters
[1:17]
because it is in the charter and it
allows someone who's living within
[1:20]
Alamosa County so that's the first
standard is they have to live within
[1:24]
Alamosa County that either owns a
business, property, or works full-time
[1:30]
within city limits. So, someone has to
meet both of those criteria right now to
[1:36]
serve on um a board. I think when you
guys came across some of these
[1:41]
individuals um that would have been neat
to have on the board, you said in
[1:46]
passing maybe we should relook at this
and maybe we should open it up to where
[1:51]
if you live in the valley um type of
situation that you would be open to
[1:56]
having them on a board. You would still
have your own checks and balances. You'd
[2:00]
still do the interviews. It's still your
decision who you appoint to a board um
[2:05]
type of situation. staff doesn't really
have much of an opinion on this, but if
[2:11]
it is something that council's
interested in wanting to change and make
[2:14]
it to where it is more open and you want
to do it this year for the election, we
[2:19]
kind of need to know that so we can
start preparing and making sure the same
[2:23]
time we're doing education on the street
sales tax that we also um do similar
[2:29]
education for for this so people
understand why it's coming before them.
[2:34]
So, with that, I'll I'll put it back to
council, but just as a reminder, there's
[2:38]
there's the two different criterias,
Alamosa County, and then they have to
[2:43]
either own property, work full-time, or
own a business. So, that's the current
[2:48]
criteria. So, Mary, I'll turn it over.
>> Time. The expanded criteria is the St.
[2:53]
Louis Valley, right?
>> So, you need to talk, you would want to
[2:56]
talk through if you want to change both
of those. So, do you want to make the
[3:00]
whole San Louis Valley, which is okay,
but that means um I think you
[3:05]
interviewed a gentleman who lived in Rio
Grand but worked full-time at ASU. He
[3:11]
would then qualify type of situation.
But the other example we had, we had
[3:16]
someone who lives right in East Alamosa,
works for a different school district.
[3:21]
Since they don't do any of those other
three, they still would not be eligible.
[3:26]
So, you would want to talk through if
you want to change both of those
[3:30]
criteria or not.
>> Okay.
[3:33]
» So, just to be clear, it's not
>> Can you talking to the mic?
[3:37]
» Just to be clear, it's not that you want
to change it. You can't do that change,
[3:40]
but it's what issue do you want to
propose to the voters because it's a
[3:44]
charter change. So, you're not doing
anything other than proposing if you
[3:49]
want to a question to the voters.
>> Okay. All right. So, I'll open it up to
[3:56]
council. You could just turn your mics
on and we'll we'll talk a little bit
[3:59]
about it. Anybody has any first
comments? I'll start off. Looks like
[4:03]
Carson and then Krebs,
you want to go first?
[4:07]
» Um, mine's a quick 30 second. Um I'm
just thinking just for matter of time if
[4:13]
we want to talk about one of the
components first like the valley type
[4:18]
thing and then once we figure that out
then we move on to the second one and
[4:21]
that way we're not confusing each other
and bouncing back and forth.
[4:25]
» That would be my only
suggestion but whatever.
[4:30]
» But other than that I'll turn it.
>> Let me see what he had to say.
[4:34]
Okay.
I'm just kind of looking for
[4:37]
clarification and and forgive me if I'm
not getting it, but so so we're wanting
[4:41]
to come up with language for the ballot
because we have to pitch this to the
[4:45]
voters if we're going to change it. And
>> if you want to make a change, if you
[4:48]
don't want to make a change, then we we
don't do anything. But if you do want to
[4:52]
make a change, we do have to take it to
the voters because it's in the charter.
[4:56]
» So it would be us wanting to make Hold
on. If we want to make a change, we have
[5:02]
to come up with a language, put it on
the ballot, then the voters will vote on
[5:06]
yes or no, whether they want to change
the charter. That's a municipal vote. Or
[5:09]
do county resip
vote?
[5:12]
» Yeah.
>> Um
[5:16]
Okay. All right.
>> All right. I don't see any other mics.
[5:22]
So, we'll kind of take into
consideration um what councelor Kreb
[5:27]
said so we don't get too confused. But I
just want to ask one question of
[5:31]
clarification.
So let's use this example. It's a recent
[5:35]
example. Um as far as a youth advisory
member being on the board, um a parent
[5:41]
reached out to me that's lives in Rio
Grand County and their kid goes to
[5:45]
school in Monav Vista, but they're
really active. They really want to be
[5:49]
active in um politics and learning from
other political leaders and being on
[5:55]
boards. Would that youth be able to be
on a Alamosa advisory board? If we do
[6:00]
the St. Louis Valley, allow St. Louis
Valley participants to be on our
[6:04]
advisory committee.
>> You would have to change both. So, you
[6:07]
have to change the part that says they
can be from the valley.
[6:11]
» Okay.
>> Um outside of Alamosa County
[6:13]
essentially, and then you have to change
the part that they don't have to be here
[6:18]
full time type of thing.
>> Be here full time. And that's what we
[6:21]
would be discussing about being on a
ballot if we were to do both. if you
[6:25]
want to do both. Yes. Or you can choose
to do one
[6:28]
» or none.
>> And I'm gonna give one more real
[6:30]
example. Every year, um, councelor Yan
Vehill has his group of students from
[6:37]
center come in and and they're real
active and they follow up and reach out
[6:42]
wanting to be more involved too. So
that's once again would be something
[6:45]
changing both. If a student from uh
center wanted to participate on some of
[6:51]
our our advisory committees down the
road as a youth,
[6:54]
» you would need to change both of those.
>> Okay. I just want to give that
[6:57]
classification. Okay. Council cars. Um
so,
[7:07]
and this is purely for clarification. Um
for example, I'm going to use a real
[7:11]
world person like Ruthie right now.
Ruthie Brown. Ruthie Brown does not
[7:16]
qualify right now.
>> He qualifies right now.
[7:18]
» Does qualify to be on the board. Okay.
So, that's kind of the criteria I'm
[7:22]
trying to
>> Okay. So,
[7:23]
» basically, we're just we're just going
to expand Alamosa County if we make any
[7:26]
change at all. We're going to expand
from Mosa to the valley.
[7:30]
» Yes.
[7:33]
» I think that's board applicable. You
know what I mean? I think that's that's
[7:37]
kind of I mean I get it's got to be one
big broad stroke but um like what if
[7:45]
there's a board that is you know you
need input on living in the municipality
[7:49]
or
>> then don't appoint somebody that's not
[7:52]
going to match up.
>> So just wait them out in the criteria in
[7:55]
the in the
>> you're not forced to appoint anybody.
[7:58]
It's just saying who's eligible to apply
and serve if you appoint them.
[8:05]
Okay. And and I'm just thinking through
legalities right here. So if I'm a
[8:09]
constituent and and we're looking for
something municipality rep, I mean, you
[8:14]
know, city Alamosa proper rep and that's
what part of the criteria is, then this
[8:19]
non-Alamosa proper rep would that's
interviewing would not fit that
[8:23]
criteria. So that would legally cover us
from any um like discriminatory
[8:30]
» accusation. So, so what they're saying,
councelor Carson, is that ultimately
[8:34]
it's us who decide who are on these
advisory committees. It just expands our
[8:39]
reach to get a bigger pool of people.
>> Yeah, you asked an interesting question.
[8:44]
» Yeah, I'm just I'm just thinking about
the legalities.
[8:46]
» I don't think it's that interesting.
>> Oh, it is.
[8:48]
» I
to you guys can't discriminate against
[8:52]
people on protected classes, right? But
if you interview individuals and you
[8:59]
don't feel any of them would be a good
fit for the board for reasons that are
[9:03]
not related to protected classes, you
don't have to appoint anybody regardless
[9:08]
where they live, regardless where they
work, all anything like that. So the
[9:12]
only thing from a legal perspective for
discrimination is protected classes. But
[9:17]
if you feel like someone who lives in
Alamosa interviews very well and would
[9:23]
be a better fit than the person
interviewing for Monav Vista, that is
[9:27]
your prerogative.
>> Yeah, but that doesn't keep them from
[9:30]
pulling any sort of card at all. You
know what I mean? I'd like to hear the
[9:33]
lawyer the opinion ma'am. I'm sorry.
>> No, Heather's right. People can sue for
[9:38]
whatever they want. And if someone's
going to sue based on not being
[9:41]
appointed, they would have to point to
age, sex, race, uh, gender, orientation,
[9:50]
you know, one of those protected
classes.
[9:52]
» But the reason I said it's an
interesting question is Boulder is being
[9:55]
sued right now, uh, because they kicked
someone off of their board for
[10:02]
essentially working with someone suing
the city. and that person is suing
[10:08]
Boulder on First Amendment free speech
grounds. I think they're going to lose
[10:15]
both free speech grounds and
uh due process that that they were
[10:20]
deprived of a property interest without
due process. I think they're going to
[10:24]
lose. I think they should lose, but
that's an issue that gets raised
[10:28]
sometimes.
>> And I got that. But the thing is is
[10:31]
there's still the reckoning with it. You
understand what I'm saying? Well, so
[10:34]
explain to me what
>> that's the same no matter what your you
[10:39]
you've just expanded the potential
number of people, but you haven't
[10:43]
changed those kinds of grounds for a
lawsuit at all. You haven't increased
[10:48]
our liability at all by doing that.
>> Okay. And and I mean All right. I I get
[10:54]
what you're saying.
>> All right. Thank you.
[10:57]
» Thank you, Councelor Carson, Councelor
Hensley, and Councelor Cribs.
[11:01]
So,
having been on CML and seeing a lot of
[11:06]
things that happen in other cities and
towns, one of the things that there's a
[11:11]
couple things that concern me on this
and the first one is I don't see it
[11:15]
happening here, this whole political
type of thing, but there are in the
[11:20]
larger cities where they bring in
certain people from a political
[11:24]
standpoint and they campaign and or um
try to get on certain boards or get
[11:29]
voted in because they have a specific
motive. So, it concerns me a little just
[11:35]
that you could have a different city or
something that has a alter ulterior
[11:41]
method or reasoning to getting onto one
of our boards that may not have to do
[11:46]
with our city. So, what that leads me to
really believe I kind of like the way
[11:51]
it's set up now. I potentially could be
open to the idea of going outside of
[11:55]
Elamosa, but I feel like they need to
have a reason. And I know this kind of
[12:00]
dis this um doesn't allow for the
students maybe as much, which does bum
[12:06]
me out a little, but the bottom line is
I think they need to have some real
[12:10]
teeth in the game of having a business
here or working full-time here or
[12:15]
something, not just be a St. Louis
Valley um resident who is interested in
[12:21]
Alamos. I just feel like that can open
up some cans of worms in the future that
[12:26]
we may may not be aware of. So I guess
that would be my concern.
[12:31]
» Hey, thank you uh councelor Hansy for
your comments. Councelor Crebs and then
[12:35]
councelor Carson.
>> Thank you mayor.
[12:38]
» I guess um for
my comment um as it relates to um what
[12:44]
if we choose this person over that
person? The application questions that
[12:49]
we ask don't address those at all. We
don't mention anything like that. So, we
[12:54]
would actually have no idea unless they
offer that information in the interview
[13:00]
about where they're from type thing.
While I agree with um councelor Hensley
[13:06]
to a little bit that there is some risk
involved, I think that we might benefit
[13:12]
by opening up the and making it bigger
even if it's slightly bigger. And I
[13:19]
don't want to exclude any counties and I
don't not sure if I really wanted to do
[13:23]
it by counties but I think we are
missing a a good potential especially
[13:28]
when it does come to the youth
and and when we get to exclusions I mean
[13:33]
I we could even say that youth of a
certain age if they want to serve on a
[13:38]
board are excluded from the full-time
obviously or maybe be a full-time
[13:43]
student or something of that nature. Um,
but other than that, I'm
[13:49]
I'm I'm listening, but I'm really not
seeing too much of the downside of
[13:54]
opening it up to the entire county
>> or valley. Sorry.
[13:59]
» Thank you, Council Kribs. And um, Miss
Martinez, for clarification purposes,
[14:04]
can you clarify, if I'm not mistaken,
when they fill out application, isn't
[14:08]
that information on there that you put
in the packet with us?
[14:11]
» Yes.
>> Shows exactly what I just wanted to make
[14:13]
sure.
>> Yeah.
[14:15]
Yep.
>> All right.
[14:16]
» Ask them because usually it's an address
or they have to state they're in the
[14:19]
city or county. So, we have to ask them.
>> Okay. Thank you. And councelor Carson
[14:24]
and councelor Martinez.
>> Um,
[14:31]
is there I guess what I would ask
Heather is um
[14:38]
what uh what are the real positives that
you see with this? like what are the
[14:43]
what I mean not not to put you on the
spot but I you know when I was asking
[14:48]
the other question it would seem like
you know what I'm saying like what are
[14:52]
me just enlighten me a little bit as to
what opening this pool up does because
[14:56]
again I I I do we saw it in real time
with Douglas County and the way they
[15:00]
built their waterboard and the way
people were just drawn in from different
[15:04]
towns and and and they were greasing
people in real time. it was like right
[15:08]
happening right in front of our eyes.
And so that is a really valid point that
[15:12]
Liz brings up. People are, you know,
this is a political world and it doesn't
[15:17]
always have to be red or blue. It can be
money or or water or, you know, whatever
[15:22]
it is. And so, um, it is it is a risk
that we take when we open that up. So,
[15:28]
I'm just curious what what are the
positives to doing this, I guess.
[15:32]
And so I I if and again I I
don't necessarily think it's broken. So
[15:40]
this is more coming from I think you
interviewed a really um energetic
[15:47]
individual um that lived in Rio Grand
but worked full-time at ASU and would
[15:52]
have I think some of the comments I
heard would have been a great addition
[15:56]
to whatever board they were applying
for. Um, so it it it could be that there
[16:02]
are some neat individuals out there that
have passions that align with some of
[16:06]
our boards um and they're willing to do
it. I know this isn't your question, but
[16:12]
conversely, I don't
there are I was going to say I'm not
[16:16]
sure we're we're not getting enough
volunteers, but there might be a few
[16:20]
boards that we do struggle a little bit
more than other boards.
[16:24]
» Okay. Okay. So then I asked this, is it
possible, Eric, for you to come up with
[16:28]
language that changes the charter enough
to where we have the freedom to make
[16:33]
those choices on a more dynamic basis
than we do now? You know what I mean?
[16:38]
Like I don't know if that helps or not.
>> Oh, I'm confused by So right now you
[16:44]
guys do the interview and you appoint
who you think it needs to be. There's
[16:49]
nothing forcing you to appoint certain
people or who to appoint not to appoint.
[16:54]
So that wouldn't change. All this does
is give you a bigger pool of applicants.
[16:59]
» I get that. When I was talking about the
legal risks, I wasn't necessarily
[17:03]
talking about protected classes. I was
talking about the the the agenda driven
[17:08]
people that could say we didn't put them
on this board for reason A, B, or C. So,
[17:12]
if you don't think there's risk of that,
I mean, that was more my concern was
[17:16]
protecting us from something like Liz
brought up is because you do have people
[17:19]
with agendas that could want to they may
want to change the library. They may
[17:24]
want to change, you know what I mean,
the trails, you know, they may want to
[17:28]
change ATV rules. You know what I'm
saying? And you might have somebody that
[17:32]
gets on the board. You understand what
I'm saying? As as Don pointed out, if
[17:36]
you do, if the voters approve this
change,
[17:41]
you may want to revisit the kinds of
questions that you ask, especially of
[17:45]
people who don't have an obvious
>> tie to Allar to try to get at why the
[17:51]
heck do you want to
>> volunteer your time to serve, you know,
[17:55]
spend five hours a month driving 50
miles to serve on one of our advisory
[18:00]
boards, which doesn't even get to do
anything. But if someone interviews for
[18:04]
the library board and they think they
say, "I'm running because I think that
[18:09]
the library is a mess and it needs a new
direction and all of that and and you
[18:14]
guys don't agree with that." Then you
probably don't think it's going to be a
[18:17]
good fit to put them on the library
board. That's not a legally protected
[18:21]
class.
>> I got you. So, I guess my my question
[18:26]
are over. I I would leave it to you guys
to figure out if you want to change
[18:30]
that. If you think it's not broken, like
Heather said, if it's not broken, then
[18:33]
why are we trying to fix it? But I mean,
you know, I'm not whatever you guys
[18:38]
think. I'm I guess I'm game with just
support whatever you guys think because
[18:43]
everybody have valid points. But again,
this brings up good point.
[18:46]
» All right. Thank you, Council Gar. Let's
go to Council Martinez. So, I'm just
[18:51]
thinking about some of the points you
brought up, which isn't legal like Eric
[18:55]
said, but it's optics and and um I know
we're taking it to the voters and
[19:03]
they'll approve it or they won't. But
then if people that apply from the city
[19:07]
of Alamos are like, "We applied, but you
chose this person from Monav Vista." The
[19:12]
city council is going against they're
not even taking people from Alamos in
[19:16]
consideration. And it's not a legal
issue because we can choose whoever we
[19:19]
we want. But then it becomes optics and
that the city is not representing the
[19:23]
city and it becomes kind of a political
issue because you know
[19:28]
we are we're not appointed we're
elected. So that's one thing. And then
[19:33]
as far as Liz's comment goes, I think
people can interview really well and
[19:38]
then turn out to be something completely
different. So we can say, "Hey, this
[19:42]
person loves the library board. They
think our library is great." and then
[19:46]
they come in and we hear well Monavista
does theirs this way or we do it this
[19:51]
way here and then we have to deal with
that kind of crap. So, I think maybe
[19:55]
opening it up to the county, people who
live within the county, cuz they do, I
[20:02]
mean, people in East Talamosa have to
shop in the city. You know, people in
[20:07]
Monavista don't have to shop in the
city. They do a lot of times because
[20:12]
most a lot of times they work here, but
they don't have to shop here. People in
[20:17]
East Amos, they kind of do. There's not
a whole lot out there that they can get
[20:22]
elsewhere. So that's just my thoughts.
>> And good thoughts. Good thought. Good
[20:27]
thoughts. Uh council cribs,
>> let me throw this out here. At the
[20:31]
beginning you said that there there are
two requirements. One is the location
[20:34]
and the other one is um work full-time,
own a business. What if it was one or
[20:40]
the other?
they would still have a tie to Alamosa
[20:44]
in some way, either financially owning a
business or working here or they live
[20:49]
here and they might work in center at
the school, you know, that kind of
[20:55]
thing. So that way we can capture people
that have a vested interest in
[21:01]
» Say it one more time. Say it one more
time.
[21:03]
» So if I'm understanding correctly, we
still have you have to live in Alamosa
[21:09]
County. So if they meet that criteria,
that alone would allow them to be on it.
[21:14]
And instead of it being an and it would
be an or. So if they live in Alamosa
[21:20]
County but work at a different school
district because they live in Alamosa
[21:24]
County, they would still qualify. And
since it's an or if they own a business,
[21:30]
own property, or work full-time, there's
three. Thank you. It doesn't matter
[21:34]
where they live within the valley as
long as they're meeting one of those
[21:38]
three criteria. So it changes the and to
an or
[21:46]
that's municipal state.
>> Okay. One more time with the R. So I
[21:52]
understand Alamosa County if they live
in Alamosa County and R. Say it one more
[21:57]
time.
>> Okay. So right now it's an and which
[22:01]
means you have to live in Alamosa County
and you have to either own property, a
[22:07]
business or work full-time
>> because it's an and
[22:11]
» well or or live in the city. If you live
in the city, that's all.
[22:14]
» Yeah, that's all you need to live in the
city. Okay.
[22:17]
» So anyways, so that's the and scenario
right now. Don is talking about changing
[22:22]
it to an or. So, if you live in Alamosa
County, we don't care if you own
[22:29]
property within the city. We don't care
if you work in the city. We don't care
[22:33]
if you own a business in the city. If
you live in Alamosa County, that's a
[22:37]
close enough nexus that we feel you
should qualify to be able to apply to a
[22:43]
board. Or if you own you can live in any
of the counties within the valley, but
[22:49]
and but you have to own a business,
property, or work full-time.
[22:55]
Okay, I get it now.
>> Well, that that's that's sounds pretty
[23:00]
decent, but I'm gonna go to councelor
Hensley.
[23:02]
» So, personally, I feel like it's not
broken. So, I'm not really gung-ho about
[23:08]
changing it. That would be my first
choice. If we went this route, I
[23:13]
actually feel like even Alamosa County,
any of them, if it's not in the city,
[23:18]
they need to have they need to work have
a place or something here, even if
[23:24]
they're in the county. I just again, I
just think there has to be something
[23:28]
tied to the city. We are city
um boards, things like that. So, there
[23:35]
has to be a true tie to the city would
be my second choice. So for me
[23:39]
personally, even if it's just county
residents, I still feel like they have
[23:42]
to have the link to the city.
>> So the only interest you really have
[23:47]
from a second option is instead of it
being limited to Alamosa County, you're
[23:53]
open to it being for the valley, but you
want to keep that nexus. You want to
[23:57]
keep the three criteria.
>> And I'm going to be honest, my first
[24:00]
vote is probably going to be more just
to keep it the way it is.
[24:03]
» Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Well, we're
having some healthy debate today. Good
[24:07]
deal. Councelor Vio,
>> I'm with Liz. Keep it the way it is.
[24:12]
Don't mess with it. Leave it alone. Um,
for the reasons Mr. Martinez brought up
[24:18]
a really good point that I didn't even
think about is if we put on someone from
[24:23]
Swatch who wants to be on our library
board when we had some folks from
[24:27]
Alamosa who want to do it.
Um, [clears throat]
[24:31]
and then what Liz and Mike were saying
about
[24:36]
someone wanting to be on a board and
trying to put their own agenda on there
[24:40]
and that screwing everything up and keep
it the way it is. Keep it the way.
[24:45]
» Okay. Councelor Krebs and then councelor
Carson,
[24:47]
» can we take this opportunity then? Um,
so I'm getting the gist of the board and
[24:52]
I'm perfectly okay with that. Can we
take a moment and discuss um the
[24:57]
definition of full-time work? Because I
think for for one of my boards, for
[25:02]
example, a person who qualifies or or
technically didn't qualify because they
[25:07]
didn't have a full-time job. They're an
artist. So, technically their their job
[25:12]
is being a full-time artist, but
everywhere.
[25:16]
» Can can we pin that maybe for a
different time kind of discussion
[25:21]
» because I just wanted to make sure that
that was touched on. Um, at least as if
[25:25]
we say they work full-time. They do work
full-time, but but and you could say
[25:30]
that for plumbers, you could say that
for house cleaners.
[25:33]
» We disqualified someone for that.
>> No, no,
[25:36]
» no. But it it's it's it's a debate. It's
a thing. And and it can we put something
[25:41]
in there for for youth about being a
full-time student so we don't
[25:45]
accidentally exclude a youth under the
current
[25:50]
standards?
Right now, a youth that lives in Alamosa
[25:54]
County and goes to school within the
Alamosa school district is eligible.
[25:59]
» Okay.
>> So, Okay. All right. Thank you.
[26:03]
» We're going to go to Council Carson.
Councelor Hensley, then I'll have a
[26:06]
comment as well. Council Carson,
>> I just want to let everyone up here know
[26:11]
that I agree with all of you. [laughter]
>> You guys are all
[26:16]
» all the time.
>> Thank you.
[26:18]
» All right. Council say thank you
councelor Carson.
[26:22]
» I think I think you'd start muddying the
water too if we start really getting
[26:25]
into definition. I I think if I was have
if you were going to pin me to a
[26:29]
definition I would say that their their
business address has to be in the city.
[26:34]
You know like plumbers I'm married to an
electrician. He definitely doesn't
[26:38]
always work in Alamosa but his address
or his business is Alamosa. I would just
[26:44]
say we don't want to take we do are not
recommending to take anything to the
[26:48]
voters to try to do definition
>> like that is way too that's beyond
[26:53]
» I agree.
>> Okay.
[26:54]
» So so I'm I'm just going to say
something. Um
[27:01]
I know that there are a lot of people in
Alamosa County. Let's say we didn't open
[27:04]
it up to the valley and I can understand
that. But if you I think there is a good
[27:08]
reason to consider opening up to Alamosa
County uh people whether they work here
[27:13]
or not because there are people who live
out in the county that might bring some
[27:18]
value uh with some of their ideas and
suggestions uh to our boards and
[27:22]
advisory boards. They may not work here
now, but maybe at one time they did work
[27:27]
in the city or work at a university or
uh just a thought, but it's going to
[27:32]
boil down to um what what you all decide
as a team. Um but I I don't see too much
[27:39]
harm if we open it up to Alamos, the
county residents um myself.
[27:46]
So based on the com conversation, if I
was going to summarize, I feel like I
[27:51]
heard one, two, three, four, five people
say, "It's not broken. Let's not fix it
[27:58]
type of thing." And I'm hearing one
person say, "I think we should talk
[28:02]
about being more open, but it it seems
the numbers are the other way." Am I am
[28:08]
I misunderstanding anything?
>> Okay.
[28:12]
» I think I think you're absolutely right,
Councelor Carson. Agree with you.
[28:16]
We're going [laughter] with this. We're
on a roll. Mayor, I don't know if we um
[28:20]
want to close your discussion and do a
little bit of time for any potential
[28:24]
public comment um type of thing.
>> Yes, we we can go ahead and and close it
[28:29]
um for public comment. And I I want to
thank council for the good healthy
[28:34]
conversation and healthy uh debate. Um
really appreciate that. Okay, so it
[28:39]
looks like um
we're going to leave things like they
[28:44]
are.
[28:47]
So, if we're opening it up to public
comment, did you want to do that?
[28:51]
» Yes. So, what I'm going to do right now
only only if your comments are related
[28:55]
to what we just talked about. If your
comments are not related to what we just
[29:00]
talked about, we will have a meeting
that's starting at 7:00 and you'll be
[29:05]
able to make your comments at our open
city council meeting under the citizen
[29:10]
comment section. Okay? And the comment
cards are not don't I would not use the
[29:14]
comment cards for this. I would just
open it up like you normally do.
[29:17]
» Okay. So, if anyone wants to make a
comment about what we were just talking
[29:20]
about, go over to the mic right there
and you can start making your comments.
[29:24]
And we do ask that you keep your
comments to within 3 minutes. We do time
[29:29]
those comments. If you're still talking
at the 3minut mark, we will politely ask
[29:33]
you to uh stop making your comments.
Also, here on city council, uh we
[29:38]
practice civility, meaning that we are
mindful and respectful, not
[29:42]
interrupting, cheering, or clapping when
someone's making comments because we
[29:46]
don't want them to lose the thoughts
that they uh want to speak on. Okay? So,
[29:51]
if you have any comments, just please go
up to the mic and you can start making
[29:55]
your comments.
[29:59]
Go ahead. You go right there.
[30:10]
Um, my name is Rebecca. I currently
moved to Alamosa about two years ago.
[30:15]
Um, if I start crying or anything, don't
mind that. That's my anxiety. People
[30:20]
people really bother me. Um, the
conversation I just came into, it sounds
[30:25]
like a really great idea. Um, a lot of
people that I've actually met come from
[30:31]
the San Louise area and stuff and they
come here for the help. So, that really
[30:36]
says something if it says anything.
Um, it sounds like you guys are trying
[30:42]
to do a great job and really appreciate
you guys. Thanks for letting me speak
[30:46]
the first time.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
[30:51]
» Okay. Anyone else any comments regarding
uh what we just talked about? If not, I
[30:57]
don't see any. Uh, let's go to Zoom and
we'll go to the Zoom participant.
[31:03]
We'll go to Zoom. If you're on Zoom and
you have any comments you would like to
[31:06]
make, use the raise your hand feature at
the bottom of the screen and raise your
[31:09]
hand and we'll recognize you.
I don't see any hands raised. I don't
[31:14]
see anybody on Zoom. All right. So,
we're going to go ahead and close this
[31:17]
segment and uh give council a little bit
of time back and we'll come back at 7
[31:21]
o'clock. We're good.