[0:03] We have a full document tonight, so please try to be concise and to the point if you are speaking, and if you wish to speak on any of the cases please make sure to fill out speakers and give it to the staff.

[0:20] So, first order of the business, we have the consideration of the meeting minutes from July 3.

[0:27] And as any of the members of the board, we should suggest operations to the meeting.

[0:32] The big minutes.

[0:35] No, no, any members of the public have any comments on the meeting.

[0:41] No, I can't get a motion on the minutes.

[0:44] Some of you. Any opposed?

[0:47] Thank you.

[0:51] Any opposed?

[0:54] We'll...

[0:55] All right.

[0:57] Maybe we'll adopt them.

[0:59] All in favor?

[1:00] Aye.

[1:01] Aye.

[1:03] All opposed?

[1:05] All right. We'll adopt the middle.

[1:08] Next item on the calendar is the consent calendar.

[1:12] Yes.

[1:13] Thank you.

[1:14] The focus started at one point on a couple of things too.

[1:17] First off, we'll welcome you after our August recess.

[1:20] Nice to see you moving again.

[1:21] I hope everyone had nice and August.

[1:23] We'll see a couple of new things tonight.

[1:25] We're trying to stuff out and build and everybody's telling me

[1:28] we'll go together and try to always look in and move and try to improve things.

[1:32] So you'll see a couple of things.

[1:34] First, the staff reports have a new template.

[1:38] We're trying out the different template, try to push some of the more

[1:41] of one of the important information in the early

[1:42] and of the discsolid making so you're divine,

[1:45] kind of a little more graphic, you know,

[1:46] that's one of the things.

[1:47] So we'll do that for a couple of a couple of your customers.

[1:50] Give us a feedback, things you learn,

[1:51] things you don't get them.

[1:52] We can ask something as big as we go.

[1:55] Let's go.

[1:55] First of all, the second thing is where I'm going to try

[1:58] to try a bit more of something you do out

[1:59] where snap, we'll do it in brief.

[2:01] Very, very, very, very many of my private problems

[2:02] with brief read the introduction in each case.

[2:05] So we'll which is basically saying,

[2:07] so here's your upxailing points in case here

[2:09] things that are to look at and stand for recognizing just and the recommendation and and

[2:17] conditions that we found here. That's about it. We're trying to focus the conversation so

[2:22] we don't know what possibly the important point one series project. So that's our new stuff.

[2:29] Now we're going to move on to our document. I'm just saying instead we have a certain

[2:35] It never might have been like a cent pounder and it would be the men and it would be a little bit stupid for this one.

[2:40] First item at number three, the AR-2026-010244, hold the start of this register for quest for an operation that makes 0-6 for sound.

[2:49] Fairfax speed.

[2:51] Down in the solar energy world, represent our way to the end.

[2:54] Item at number four, the AR-2026-0254, for a quest for an operation for an operation for an operation for an operation.

[3:03] I have to give this very grasp well, appropriate it, represent a body question.

[3:07] The right one.

[3:09] I don't know if it's fine.

[3:10] It is BR-26 that there are two weeks, six full of historic district.

[3:15] The question of alterations at 174 South East Street,

[3:18] I have to give this Richard and Sean Kathbard.

[3:21] And number six is DR-26 that there are two nine lead.

[3:26] Full of historic district, the question of alterations of signs and eight to zero seven.

[3:29] of the district's applicant at the Portland, on the Xander,

[3:32] but I'm there by Guns U Permits.

[3:34] And finally out of the seven is the R226-0304.

[3:39] Hope for a district request for a raise in the seven one nine,

[3:42] put street the applicant will win.

[3:45] Thank you.

[3:46] Thank you.

[3:47] Do any members of the board?

[3:49] We should remove any of these items from the gallery.

[3:54] Yes.

[3:55] I'd like to remove item number six for age 20 self-colonist rate.

[3:59] And I would like to read number five.

[4:04] Can I turn to what's out this?

[4:07] Do I remember as of the public mystery movie,

[4:09] any items from the Muslim family?

[4:14] So, Mr. Khmaki, for the remainder of the items,

[4:18] I don't know if I can answer that.

[4:21] Yes.

[4:22] I need a motion of a second.

[4:23] And then I'm supposed to go.

[4:27] I want you to make some motion for our plane to be reminded of the items on the concept character.

[4:34] We can't really hear.

[4:37] It's very mulled and hear.

[4:40] All right.

[4:41] It'll be tough.

[4:42] Is there a microphone?

[4:44] Yeah.

[4:44] You can't have microphones.

[4:45] We'll do a little bit of a bit.

[4:47] Or.

[4:48] That.

[4:49] I'm going to start.

[4:51] We'll start.

[4:51] We'll try to speak a little louder.

[4:53] Thank you.

[4:54] Yeah, seven different.

[4:56] We will work our best to speak louder so everyone can hear us.

[4:59] Bye.

[5:00] All right. Yep. I have a motion. We have a second on the second.

[5:04] All

[5:06] right. All right. All right. All right.

[5:11] Okay. So we'll move on to number five. It's been removed from the consent calendar.

[5:15] Yeah.

[5:15] On the 26th, that's a year or two, eight, six, all of the start of district.

[5:19] First of all, raise in the 72th or south. These crews.

[5:23] The sound is really bad. What just happened?

[5:25] So literally what's just happened?

[5:27] Okay. We moved down to the consent calendar, which is the event from the Friday and the five and the six.

[5:31] I'm sorry, this is as best we can do we do not have, so which item was still that?

[5:36] I'm going to 3, 4, 7, or if I have been approved. So even on item 3, 4, 7, you can leave the

[5:41] item, your items have been approved. 5 and 6 are being considered right.

[5:51] Okay, again, item 5 is next to the line, item 5, we're going to 7, 4,

[5:56] out of these previous applications, the reports.

[6:05] Yes, before you start the minutes,

[6:06] the statements are basically through this.

[6:08] All right.

[6:08] So the applicants are Richard and John Katkarte,

[6:11] I think you guys can understand this.

[6:13] The proposed scope of work is to replace

[6:16] three iron columns on the 18 foot wide front porch

[6:20] with three six-by-eight painted cedar and wood

[6:23] columns on page two of the report.

[6:27] You'll see the site context is that this is third and

[6:31] on a row of seven homes, all set back from the street to allow for curb cuts and larger

[6:37] front yards. Page three of the four shows, the look of the wooden columns,

[6:43] and Page three also draws attention to the design standards for purchase that include

[6:48] the four-chish-to-be a broom grids, the store-ful-style of the structures,

[6:52] and four-chish-to-be made materials which are sympathetic to the building materials

[6:56] of the generally found in the historic district.

[6:58] page four has the report has the Asian and staff right,

[7:02] patient.

[7:04] Thank you.

[7:05] Can you please display your name on address for the record?

[7:08] Yes.

[7:08] I'm Sean Kaskart and our address is 724 South V-Stream.

[7:13] Thank you.

[7:14] So my, I hope this, I'll just,

[7:19] I have a comment on the size of the column.

[7:22] Could this, it seems very large for the,

[7:26] the basically room that is for the porch and the room that is holding. So my recommendation is to

[7:33] kind of look at the site of me to begin to see similar to what your neighbors have that you actually

[7:40] have pointed out. Well if you're looking at a inventory, it is out of proportion. We are doing eight inch

[7:49] wooden columns. It's about the same size as what the thing that it's trying to do. It can see

[7:55] like it could go around, but we decided not to rock, but we decided just to remove the iron

[8:01] post and put new wooden posts in, and then we're doing detailed holes on the top and the bottom.

[8:08] Yeah, I appreciate it. It's maybe a group of why not just maybe I can say comment because I

[8:15] not there to see the rendering industry to be. So maybe I can just say comment to work with

[8:21] staff to make sure that besides, it's similar to what the neighboring houses are, you know,

[8:26] not really like it is. You know, you know, it gives you perspective and this is the

[8:29] eight inches. So it's just a little more convenient.

[8:32] 18 to a wide range. So if I get from any sort of visual idea of the proportions of it,

[8:42] does I agree to the random, the AI rendering is a little bit too creepy.

[8:46] to stick where I'm looking at the picture that shows your facade with 726 sounds read in 728 sounds.

[8:55] So the size and measure of the size of those columns and yours is in keeping with that size.

[9:03] Thank you.

[9:05] Thank you.

[9:07] Thank you.

[9:08] Thank you.

[9:10] You like me?

[9:12] I make a motion to approve that they work with staff to confirm that the colon

[9:18] size is appropriately sized for the height of the porch.

[9:25] There are seconds.

[9:28] All those in favor say aye.

[9:30] Aye.

[9:31] Those in favor say aye.

[9:35] Which staff member do we work with?

[9:43] Thank you so much. Thank you.

[9:45] Thank you.

[10:00] District Court Special Operations and the Senate at 820 South Florida Street in Catholicism, Portland, I think, and I've heard this subject to interview, but I'd like to thank the committee for the good news.

[10:10] All right. So the post-operative work is to install an individual letter, 10 Mountain, Halo, a woman in sign above the building, 10 friends, which is the West Elevation on page 2 of the report.

[10:24] You will see the site context in this project is a reference building that encompasses the entire block of 800 South Columbus.

[10:36] And on H-3 of the report shows displacement and physical parents as a proposed signage.

[10:42] Page 3 also draws attention to the design standards and the signage that includes that styling materials are sympathetic to the age and architectural style of building.

[10:51] They do not attract from the architectural character of the search structures and the included lettering is appropriately scaled to the size of the sign.

[11:01] Page 3 of the report as the staff recommendation.

[11:06] Thank you.

[11:06] Can you please speak your name on address for the record?

[11:09] One in John Martell, 1261-8, mashed things away in Bristol, Virginia, and I am representing

[11:18] Portland and amaging for that's in the contract.

[11:22] Thank you.

[11:23] Would you like to make a presentation or just answer it to question?

[11:26] Answer to questions.

[11:27] I thought I was only two-step calendar.

[11:30] So, do you have any speakers or do you have any speakers or do you have any speakers?

[11:35] First of is taught on.

[11:45] Oh, thank you.

[11:45] Thank you.

[11:46] Absolutely.

[11:47] And I just thought that it would be 15,

[11:51] something I'm a street.

[11:52] It's quite a cross street.

[11:54] It's really, really, really.

[11:56] So staff clearly noted that they recommended approval.

[11:59] The application that was consistent with recent

[12:01] A-lodominated signs through the board.

[12:04] However, they didn't like specific examples.

[12:07] And it was impossible to determine

[12:09] and then the approvals represented similar signs

[12:12] in similar residential neighborhoods.

[12:15] The absence of that clarity by staff,

[12:18] I took the time to review the B.A.

[12:19] I was published meeting in January of the B.A.

[12:20] at 12 months in order to answer the questions.

[12:25] So in reviewing that, I released 20 B.A.

[12:27] our hearing stuff, I was able to clearly view

[12:29] that there were four proposals that came

[12:30] before the B.A.R. are seeking approval

[12:32] for an internally new B.A. in signs.

[12:35] There were several dead lengths in the published genus,

[12:38] there are a couple that was unable to determine if they were a late sign or not. However, what

[12:44] was clear in reviewing that is that all four requests were related to properties on or around

[12:50] King Street, within the King Street program, retail zone, and none of the proposal requests

[12:56] came from proper recent residential home area. So to be specific, the four proposals came from

[13:02] 400 King Street, which is where the Alexandria hotel is,

[13:07] one from Burdo, Burdo, Burdo Bank, and one from South Burdo,

[13:10] one from 100 more to pit on the corner of King and Pit.

[13:15] Interestingly, the approval recommendations

[13:17] out by staff, with regard to the application from the back

[13:20] of the sign of 100 North and Pit, staff bounds

[13:23] that the proposed back of the sign was perturing.

[13:27] As it was located, quote, on a non-street-facing elevation,

[13:31] and was not adjacent to any residential properties.

[13:37] Let's have a thinking for a minute.

[13:39] But by publishing this, staff's own recommendation

[13:42] and that 100 North Pitch Street proposal

[13:44] set forth both a clear and objective rigged criterion

[13:48] that should strongly be considered by the VAR

[13:51] in all future requests for internally eliminated signs

[13:54] since by its own words,

[13:56] staff is using consistency with previous proposals

[13:59] as the standard of you all future applications. In this specific case, they are recommended

[14:05] approval of the eight 20 self-filmist standing on your bench and the end of your system

[14:11] in your activity. As eight 20 self-columnist's street proposed sign would be located on both

[14:17] a street facing elevation and will be adjacent to residential properties. As a result, we believe

[14:25] the board should consider viewing this application as any consistent with previous board

[14:29] programs. And only after a minute, so I feel like thank you for your time and have

[14:34] answered your questions. Thank you.

[14:38] Our next speaker is Janice Krickett.

[14:42] Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, Chair. I share members of the board and staff.

[14:48] I'm sure there's some busy people. Thanks for the afternoon to speak this evening.

[14:51] My name is Janice Krickett. I'm an I-2. I'm going to be the Dean South Columbia Street

[14:55] directly in the process of the end of the way of age 20 South Columbia Street.

[14:59] I hope that I'll be waiting for you.

[15:00] Review the materials I said to staff last week, receiving a petition, objecting to the signage as proposed. I sent an updated

[15:06] version this morning with a quick turnaround I was able to get 37 signatures of which only two are

[15:11] residents versus property owners, and do include all of the owners of properties in the required

[15:16] notification zone. I respectfully request that the bar denied the signage request as proposed. The

[15:22] hailingly illuminated sign is not typical in the old and historic district, including a long history.

[15:26] one of our busys to commercial corridors in the city.

[15:30] The city's own sign ordinance discourages this time of signage

[15:33] and imposes limits on nighttime illumination in residential zones.

[15:36] The entryway is in fact in a residential zone in a cross-to-street

[15:39] of eight homes.

[15:40] All of which have been relocated in the front of the house,

[15:43] facing South Columbus Street.

[15:45] Four applications and dining areas in the face of Columbus Street

[15:47] and of the four two homes have direct view of the entryway

[15:51] from this portion of their homes.

[15:52] When the trees are there, which is not in this picture,

[15:55] you will have full view and will not be blocked by flowers or poor leaves.

[15:59] The interview I have in the middle of the meeting has included private materials scrubly, fully

[16:03] illuminated during fall over night power. The existing signage, when the building was

[16:07] known as the framework, was blocked by uncertainty and programming from a character in the streetscape.

[16:11] I have been in additional documentation that includes photos that have south, the south,

[16:15] Washington side of the block, photos that include a spark wear, a friend use, a staff side,

[16:19] and a babysitter's work, not at which to have illuminated signs. They have lights that face

[16:23] down over this signage, but they do not project outward. Even the sign, they're for Jones,

[16:29] which is on the self-belongous sign is not illuminated. Again, thanks to the opportunity to speak

[16:33] to you this evening, numerous residents of the neighborhood are opposed to the proposed signage

[16:38] as submitted to you. It appears that the concern here is not with reasonable identification

[16:42] of the property, but with the unnecessary introduction of additional nine-time lighting

[16:46] into a rhetorical, residential streetscape. The proposed table illuminated forward signage would

[16:51] recently, I decided to talk for the atmosphere, and they

[16:54] had a lot of self-fulermission, which is located in

[16:56] the boundaries of the boldness of our district.

[16:59] There are many sign options of error available for

[17:01] programming, which should not outweigh the preservation standards

[17:04] and residential character that you all have been

[17:06] in trust and text on our behalf, thank you.

[17:09] And I'm also going to share an assign that my name

[17:11] roommate made, she's gay, and she had the benefit of that

[17:14] face is the front of the building.

[17:16] Thank you.

[17:17] Thank you.

[17:17] All right, nice to see you.

[17:18] Next speaker and Nancy Allen McCarthy and the folks of our

[17:22] massive network and I'll be really quick.

[17:24] But thank you for the evening.

[17:26] The opportunity is to be actually moved to eight or three

[17:29] degrees to be in the spring.

[17:31] So I'm on the border of greens on this.

[17:33] So I can see the work on the properties.

[17:35] The ability to sell this stuff,

[17:37] mostly.

[17:38] I think the addition of this table that will give me the

[17:40] design.

[17:41] We'll actually just collection that only have a residential

[17:43] neighborhood.

[17:45] But all down at it to be as a whole.

[17:47] And I like to post, it was like a hypoved medical.

[17:50] They say it's the lawyers of mine,

[17:52] they say not to use hypoved medical stuff.

[17:54] But just to imagine, across the street from my house,

[17:57] the building is allowed to put a banquet halo that's signed.

[18:01] I was like, what is to stop the home owners and the town homes

[18:05] you put a halo away from the numbers on their phones?

[18:09] I'm just using that as a hypoved medical type of medical

[18:11] to show me how we can change this question of a refugee

[18:14] be perfect. I urge you to vote against this, um, this is the question. Thank you. Thank you.

[18:22] Any other questions? All right. We'll combine the questions and the deliberation for the members

[18:29] to any one approach. Does any member would like to go first? Thank you. I'm really appreciate the

[18:36] organized community versus knowledge of the solidarity that you have in your opposition. Thank you for

[18:42] coming out tonight and for all of your decisions and your letter, I will say a completely

[18:46] of rate. This is a residential street, unlike King Street. And I think it's a bad

[18:53] precedent for signage on more residential streets. So I support your sentiments. And I guess

[19:02] I would just ask, Portland, is there an alternative signage proposition that you would consider?

[19:08] That's not a halo of it.

[19:11] We're in just three dimensional letters, non-livenated.

[19:15] I mean, I don't understand the residents concerned,

[19:21] but we're talking about a halo of it letter,

[19:25] which in this face of solid,

[19:26] it's just a light that shines around the letter.

[19:29] It doesn't shine out.

[19:31] It will not shine on anybody's property.

[19:33] We have not anybody's room.

[19:34] Better find it.

[19:35] So, but that seems to be a big concern of all these people that have come up with spoke that somehow, this is going to affect, they won't even,

[19:46] from the building is at, I don't know, 40, 50 feet from the road.

[19:51] So,

[19:56] it's not just 10, 15 feet.

[20:00] So, I mean, that's fine.

[20:05] If Courtland would prefer to have a lighted sign, we will accept a non-alarminated

[20:12] three-dimensional letter sign, but somebody mentioned two-snack lighting, with any type of lighting

[20:20] being acceptable to people here and to the board, or as a sign, just have to be non-alarminated

[20:25] three dimensional letters.

[20:30] I would say for if you need to add lighting like a

[20:35] stance or if I saw that, you actually have some ground lighting already there, so

[20:41] you might not have enough lighting, but that would be fine. That's just

[20:44] when the name is signed. Yeah, so not an internally illuminated sign.

[20:48] That's internal illumination would be okay. Or are you going to have a problem with

[20:54] that too? I think you should. I'm glad that there's been a bit of my

[20:57] Because I've seen it both.

[21:00] Like this next time, is that fighting?

[21:02] It could be included in the straightaway.

[21:03] So that's something that's more to be aware of.

[21:07] As long as it, it aligns with the other,

[21:12] like that we have this.

[21:16] You actually think.

[21:18] Okay.

[21:18] But I also want to make sure that would you all be opposed to?

[21:22] I think we hear what she said.

[21:24] Other businesses in the neighborhood

[21:26] the place, rective, above.

[21:28] So here's what I wanted.

[21:29] You would be okay if we did that.

[21:31] And we don't see that report.

[21:32] I'd like to see the report.

[21:34] Because I want to cover right.

[21:35] We're going to make it.

[21:36] I don't know.

[21:37] It's a long street.

[21:38] It's very bright street lights.

[21:41] It's all.

[21:43] And they have a blog in your area that looks like a hospital.

[21:46] It's so bright.

[21:47] It's nice to talk to you for hours and day.

[21:49] So the way following my plan,

[21:51] if there's going to be something at it,

[21:54] of the building. I personally would like to see specifically what it is and I have a very

[21:58] constant building. I just want to make sure I'm not going back and forth with multiple.

[22:05] So what's the reason that you want to add? It seems there is enough lighting there. Is that something

[22:11] better? What's that? I feel there would be better visibility. I feel that the entrance is set back

[22:17] from the road. I'll be honest with you. I've only been there in the daytime, so I don't know the lighting

[22:22] evening, but they just feel that because of the trees and and so forth, which I never

[22:28] not bloom all year long, but then it would just be better visibility and then hail like

[22:34] hail of illuminator letters or a classic book on the building. So I want to note that you know

[22:40] the stats of the neighbors, the community to consider not coming to any lighting. If you really feel

[22:48] that you need to add to the behavior that it's best to do.

[22:52] All right, so you're on that, I think I'm fine too.

[22:53] I've been, the Board of Making conditions

[22:55] can also be distributed to the students.

[22:58] People who want to.

[23:00] Yeah, thank you, one of the state.

[23:02] I appreciate the neighbors.

[23:03] So my lot of them.

[23:04] I appreciate that neighbors, speaking,

[23:07] and I'm such a unified fashion.

[23:10] And I too think that what is there now

[23:13] is appropriate enough in terms of lighting.

[23:16] It's actually very canceled signage that you have up there right now.

[23:20] So I'm in agreement with no lighting.

[23:24] And could I just for being the same?

[23:28] With who is next?

[23:29] Possibly added.

[23:31] I apologize for no change.

[23:33] Absolutely.

[23:34] Well, I will not do so much of a change to less internet.

[23:37] Sorry.

[23:40] I think a resident wants to see.

[23:44] We have, they're done with the public speaking. I'm sorry, I'm supposed to, so, I think I ran that.

[23:52] I would just encourage you. I mean, this would clearly a hot button issue.

[23:55] I don't understand.

[23:56] So, I would just encourage you all.

[23:57] Snoopy, you guys want me to be happy to be. How about that?

[23:59] I would just say that.

[24:00] Do what you're going to do with the proposal.

[24:02] Let me speak to them. I say what they want to do.

[24:04] And then we'll come back.

[24:05] I'll do it to you guys.

[24:07] And hopefully you can be administrative.

[24:09] So, we can say some problems.

[24:12] Board of the Board, if you'd like to set up deferral, that means you wouldn't come back to the board.

[24:17] If you'd give a bit more of it, like to say, a condition of approval, is that it requires the people that have figured out lines,

[24:23] so we can work with the appropriate applicants to do so.

[24:27] We have an important as a solution to the problem, but the problem you can do is act on.

[24:32] It can be either approved or not, set up deferral, and again, you can accept with the conditions.

[24:37] The conditions could be that it complies with the difference for the guidance.

[24:42] Mr. Coffee, if we deny it tonight, could they come back with a non-lighted financial

[24:49] quest for an administrative level?

[24:51] Yeah, that was a little bit one minute.

[24:53] And another question.

[24:56] Can they speak now?

[24:59] What's each other?

[25:00] And come back to us within a few minutes, as we move along the way.

[25:05] Now, we have to come back to another bit of another hearing.

[25:08] We can, if we don't get much, we'd like to have a question to borrow.

[25:12] They may do so, and it's more than acceptable to do so.

[25:15] We can't be a business tonight, we can't be alone talking to them.

[25:20] Okay, with a deferral, I don't want you to deny, and we can't make a change for a year.

[25:25] But that's what I heard you correctly.

[25:26] If you defer, they don't look back.

[25:28] on the public basis.

[25:31] That's fine.

[25:31] I don't problem with that, but did I actually

[25:33] directly to the reason I might have a patient?

[25:35] I can't do anything for the earnings program.

[25:38] So I used to ask if I'd have the patient,

[25:40] but I'm getting my phone.

[25:43] Right, but question.

[25:45] Can they just work like also denying the table biting,

[25:49] so if I didn't need this that has anymore being something?

[25:53] No, that is the day that.

[25:54] All right.

[25:54] We, we'll get the

[25:59] motion to accept the deferral.

[26:03] All the papers.

[26:05] I haven't been a second.

[26:08] Sorry.

[26:13] All the papers.

[26:16] All the papers.

[26:17] What will the papers be?

[26:18] All the papers.

[26:20] Sorry.

[26:21] Thank you.

[26:24] Okay, let's have a bit of an agenda tonight.

[26:26] It's under a bunch of things.

[26:27] And this is the landing of the first.

[26:30] This is kind of a debate.

[26:32] And, uh, the R-20, we're convinced that zero zero two two three,

[26:36] all of this sort of difficult cooperation.

[26:38] This is a decision.

[26:39] At four one four two three two.

[26:41] And the rest can one two three.

[26:43] Yeah.

[26:44] I think that we've seen a bit of a John line.

[26:47] All right.

[26:49] The proposed civil court is too full.

[26:51] is to demolish approximately 480 square feet of the masonry wall area with the 24th of

[26:57] our feet, and maybe there's been railing it with the car from the south end of the existing

[27:03] porch, as well as the construction of the south of the eastern border of the property and

[27:08] we've placed the existing single door on the side porch in time, and that's side lights

[27:13] the transfer. On page 2 of the report, I'll link it to the actual report by apologies.

[27:21] On page 2 of the report, you'll see the site context is a pre-standing brincom private

[27:28] alley to the south to propose addition and alterations will be visible from the right way.

[27:34] Page 3 of the report shows the proposed new addition photos on page 8 through 15.

[27:42] 18 through 26 show these existing conditions and page 3 also draws attention to the design standards that include that it should be compatible with the start building and surroundings clearly distinguishable from the existing structure and you realize

[27:58] building materials from towns around the historic district.

[28:01] A four of the report has the HP staff recommendation.

[28:07] Thank you. Can you please state your name and answer to the request?

[28:11] Yes, it's a challenge. I'm going to put about 20 Sunrise Valley

[28:17] 3-100 invested for China. Park's tech representing the others.

[28:22] Thank you. Would you like to make a presentation or answer to questions?

[28:25] I don't feel that I need to present the body of the work further than what staff is recommending

[28:32] for approval. I appreciate that. We would like to try to address the issue of the door on the

[28:41] workshop, the least important, the expansion of that opening. That's something that is important

[28:49] to the opening of the view from the interior space to the court guard and the guard and the

[28:59] pool. And it is also something that tucked into the porch is not so visible. We'll be

[29:09] all from the right away. So we'd like to try and convince the board to accept that as a part of

[29:21] Thank you. Do any members of the board have questions for young to get?

[29:31] We'll move on to opening it to public. Do any other members of the public have questions or would you

[29:37] anticipate?

[29:41] I hope we need to get integration for the board members. I have a question I'd like to see.

[29:47] Can we show the difference door versus the one that's proposed? So this is the interesting door

[29:53] here on the bottom right, or left, and the post.

[30:01] Thank you very much.

[30:05] Thank you very much.

[30:05] Have I gone wrong?

[30:06] Thank you.

[30:06] You're going to sit down, sorry.

[30:08] So maybe one of the federal agencies to page 17.

[30:13] Although if you keep going, there'll be a 2D portal on the next page.

[30:18] So here is the red door on the right is the door in question.

[30:24] I should, I'm sorry, don't make it a little bit.

[30:28] I should clarify.

[30:28] that the door does have an existing transparency. So what's being proposed is an expansion

[30:35] for Zanoi, not in high.

[30:42] You can see that door actually has a high rate of 19.

[30:47] Yeah, you can see in the upper left-hand corner the door is partially in both of those images

[30:55] and then the lower left-hand corner is the proposed, it's possible to zoom in.

[31:01] you can see that it's the existing door that the size of the door is proposed to remain the same.

[31:09] What we're going to do is to add a side by there again. That's add a side by to the door and extend the

[31:16] transient cross of the wiring that that's helping to open the view up from the interior to the

[31:24] core door.

[31:33] Do I agree with staff recommendation, but if you want to bring more light,

[31:36] I would recommend to put a side load and transfer some to them at the same moment, the same

[31:42] much as the rest of the sector.

[31:45] That's something that I should be adding volumes to the policy.

[31:53] It's absolutely subject to the part of the condition for problems and issues.

[32:02] I've been to the side and we're using the plan, I commend you on the plan, I think

[32:08] with a really engaging addition.

[32:12] But as largely, particularly this door is,

[32:15] I don't think it's visible from the public right away.

[32:18] So I don't have a problem with this door.

[32:22] I don't know, Mrs. Swingson.

[32:25] I have a little bit of an echo to say to Thomas,

[32:27] it's my colleague.

[32:28] I don't have this door, it's very visible.

[32:30] So I don't really have an issue with this door.

[32:35] I agree with my colleague.

[32:38] And in the way that you've noticed that door elsewhere?

[32:41] Well, again, the idea is that the door would remain.

[32:44] We're not changing the size of the door.

[32:46] It's simply adding a side-by-to-the-door,

[32:49] which means that the transum is enlarged to the door of that library.

[32:55] But we certainly could add volumes to those openings to be

[33:00] in keeping with the proportions of existing conditions.

[33:03] Thank you.

[33:04] So I'll make a motion in everyone I grace to

[33:08] by such a set design with the condition of having

[33:13] my ins and my feet similar to the floor and the rest

[33:15] of that, the other is for that way.

[33:19] They have been facing challenges.

[33:23] Not sure about that, first we go to

[33:25] here's a bunch of different volume patterns

[33:27] already on this building,

[33:29] which volumes are you minding enough to do?

[33:30] With the door, there's the one that's right next to it.

[33:35] It's a one ball assembly,

[33:36] and the time so I'm going to decide that.

[33:40] So that's with all of my children.

[33:44] Sure, that's a deal.

[33:46] It's not a deal right over me.

[33:48] That's what you guys want to go.

[33:49] That's fine.

[33:52] I have that guy.

[33:54] Thank you.

[33:56] All right.

[33:56] Thank you.

[33:58] Thank you.

[34:01] All right.

[34:02] All right.

[34:02] I'm sorry.

[34:04] I'm sorry.

[34:05] I'm sorry.

[34:06] I'm sorry.

[34:07] I'm sorry.

[34:07] Thank you.

[34:10] My graduation.

[34:12] Next item.

[34:18] Okay.

[34:19] Now, let's do this.

[34:21] Number eight.

[34:21] Going to do this.

[34:22] I'm going to do this.

[34:23] I'm going to do this.

[34:24] Number 10.

[34:26] And it's part of grade 2026 that's zero zero.

[34:30] What's six.

[34:30] What's the grade?

[34:32] The best for operations in addition at 1010 or no.

[34:35] of state's travel to the system,

[34:37] for example, in the end of the fall and the end of the fall.

[34:40] And we are to be 26 in the fashion,

[34:42] there is here one, six, seven, for the practice.

[34:44] So that's for the process of processing your scat collection,

[34:46] 10, 10, 10, or no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[34:47] for even the application, 10, and since then,

[34:49] we're going to have a Peter van for all our time.

[34:52] All right, to those of you who work as to demolish

[34:55] the existing rear edition and portion of the South wall,

[34:58] as well as construction of each.

[35:00] For each story, and page two of the report shows the site context, which states that the proposed edition will be located on the south side of the existing structure, and will be wider and taller than the existing structure.

[35:14] The addition will be visible from the sidewalk on the north side of our no-go, however, much of the elevation will be shielded from view by the existing building.

[35:23] The alley behind the property is public, many of the nearby buildings and the block also has modern

[35:28] addition before other modifications.

[35:31] 85 of the court shows the placement of the new addition and there are warm plans on pages 15

[35:44] for 18 with elevations on pages 19 to 20 and the rendering there on 24 to 25.

[35:50] H3 draw attention to the design standards that include that additions should respect the heritage of the disorder buildings, which they are attached.

[36:00] Additions should remain subordinate to the historic structures.

[36:03] The additions should serve as a part of a background element or echo the design features on the primary structure.

[36:11] And that new word should be part of all the stakeholders.

[36:16] And the ancient Xother Board has the ancient East Africa Foundation.

[36:22] Thank you.

[36:27] Thank you.

[36:28] Please pay your name on access for the record.

[36:30] Peter Vanderpool, 800 or State University of Washington, D.C.

[36:36] Thank you.

[36:36] Would you like to give a presentation or a question?

[36:40] I would give a thank you.

[36:41] I'd love to have a look at the next.

[36:43] Bye.

[36:45] Thank you.

[36:47] Do any members of the public wish to speak on this application?

[36:56] Do any members of we over and have any questions for the application?

[37:05] It's not the moment that I've written.

[37:09] It's minute.

[37:12] I'm ready to present it.

[37:19] Any other comments on the board members?

[37:23] All right, we'll want to, would you like to listen to the motion?

[37:27] Yes.

[37:27] I'd like to make a motion through that presentation.

[37:33] I'll second.

[37:37] All right.

[37:37] Thank you.

[37:38] Thank you.

[37:39] Thank you.

[37:40] This is something I would like to talk about.

[37:43] Draw some.

[37:45] Hi.

[37:46] Especially.

[37:47] No.

[37:49] Thank you.

[37:50] Thank you.

[37:51] Hi.

[37:52] And I'm supporting.

[37:53] Hi.

[37:54] Cognito Coneci, please.

[37:57] Question.

[37:58] Question, Question.

[37:59] Question.

[38:00] Question.

[38:06] Question?

[38:07] Okay next item.

[38:08] The next item.

[38:11] The R26 1, that 0.22.

[38:15] 3K, full of structure, question all for it.

[38:17] We've had 1, 2 1, failure, failure, failure.

[38:19] Yeah.

[38:19] We've had the attributes of Mark Horty, but it's never been a part of the research.

[38:23] But that it's part of the

[38:26] research, which I see.

[38:27] All right, I'll just, yes, I'm here as the puts are in here for a second.

[38:33] So just, yes.

[38:37] I have a time to make this video.

[38:39] Oh, it is the one.

[38:40] That's all we do.

[38:41] We do the important for this.

[38:42] We can play another evening.

[38:43] We have five.

[38:45] Five.

[38:47] All right.

[38:50] A little bit back around here.

[38:53] The proposed couple of workers for a place he existing, which single group with a standing

[38:56] theme about a group on page two of the report. You'll see that despite context for the pages,

[39:02] they have brief standing house. That sits then into the way back on the lot that spans to

[39:08] North and the East Street. Page three shows the group and on this board of existing rooms with

[39:17] a sort of photograph. Page four draws attention to the design standards that stay in the original

[39:23] working material is missing, not being determined.

[39:26] Grouping of programs in the architectural style

[39:28] was period of the building should be used.

[39:31] Change more of the support has the HB staff recommendation.

[39:36] And with that, we have a presentation.

[39:41] Yep, and then it was loaded.

[39:45] Both of these, I'm sorry.

[39:48] And when it went road on me.

[39:49] Okay, but you're doing that. I'm just interested in these myself.

[39:53] Okay, so, good evening.

[39:54] I'm chair members of the B.R. My name is Justin Wilson.

[39:57] I am the Executive Director of New York Arts.

[40:00] For address purposes, in this case, 5,400, October 3rd, vaccination. I also have a couple of addresses and I was angry as well. So it is great to be here to provide a brief presentation on our proposal and we are excited about the opportunity to continue to invest in this historic property. We have a half of the people in this room work for the NOPEA part team and I just want the moment to say that.

[40:26] So how do you have a number of people here who can answer questions for you, we need to

[40:30] be in charge of that, including our preservation architect, who's been launched by a dollar

[40:35] from our claimancy.

[40:36] It's not out there.

[40:37] Also, from our claimancy, the fact that you have started a historic site manager at the Parliament

[40:42] House, the National Assemblyman House, or one of our parks superintendent in the end of

[40:45] the time.

[40:46] So, we this year marks a half a century that we have had this property opening the public

[40:53] interpreting the history in this property and continuing to invest in it.

[40:58] In the past couple of years, we have invested about a million and a half dollars,

[41:02] and we are prepared to do a similar number of the next two years as originally,

[41:08] they would continue to invest in this important historic property, both for Alex and Andrea and

[41:12] our region. Very quickly, as staff mentioned, the proposal is to replace the existing

[41:21] on this facility with a new roof that is designed to assemble the historic metal roof that

[41:30] is on this property for a significant portion of its history.

[41:36] We are excited to have the support of the staff and we appreciate their support in our collaboration

[41:42] as we work through this project over the last several months.

[41:47] This is the condition of the existing roof.

[41:50] Unfortunately, this was a roof that was installed 20 years ago, and one of the reasons

[41:54] that we are proposing to now replace it with a metal roof is a desire

[42:01] to not have to go into a significant work on this property.

[42:06] It is a very historic building, and we would like to not have to do the level

[42:11] of disruption that is required in order to replace a roof

[42:15] and disrupt the building. And so we believe that by returning to the historic metal roof,

[42:23] the same standing seat roof that we are proposing here, that we will be able to avoid disruption,

[42:28] frequent disruptions on this property. We're proposing to do use a freedom grave as detailed

[42:34] in your staff report. And here's some examples, not in the city here, but here's some examples

[42:41] of that we've in action and how it would look.

[42:46] We drew, as I said earlier, inspiration from the history of disability and the history

[42:50] of other buildings in the old and historic district, in the case we have two pictures here

[42:55] that kind of show you at various points over the part of the process history of the knowing

[43:04] a possible metal roof on this property.

[43:08] That's a two examples of that.

[43:11] We've also drew inspiration from the city's presentation of other properties that are in the city's inventory, including the Murray Dick,

[43:18] a faucet house, a property where the city recently installed a replacement of a metal roof on this facility.

[43:29] So we, and obviously we believe over time, this, this routine will age appropriately and consistent with, again, the previous existence of a matter of room for on this building.

[43:45] Finally, in addition to the staff's support and which we greatly appreciate, we have also consulted with the Virginia Department of Historic Resources, which holds the preservation of easement on this property and they have has noted in your staff report provided support.

[44:00] and affirmation that this is consistent with the Department of Interior Standards and the

[44:04] intention. So with that, as I said, we have a significant number of people here to answer

[44:09] any questions that you might have. And we hope that you will be supportive of the significant

[44:15] effectiveness application for our lives. Thank you. Thank you.

[44:19] I'm willing to members of the board have questions. All of these may have congratulations.

[44:23] Thank you.

[44:27] Thank you.

[44:28] I'm sorry.

[44:32] Thank you.

[44:34] This is

[44:39] for my name.

[44:40] I'm just going to say your address.

[44:42] I'm 2111 camera.

[44:44] I speak as a neighbor and there's a

[44:48] I'm president of the Storko exam.

[44:51] It might not loud enough.

[44:53] I'm telling you.

[44:55] Did ever since I got into my pulmetologist,

[44:59] he's a focus on breathing.

[45:00] You know, we're talking.

[45:03] I think that what I would say here is, I'm opposed to the battle road to the HAAF. I don't think

[45:10] that two wrongs make a right. And I'm hoping that I, today, preach into the Guiler. I think that the fact

[45:20] that there was a metal roof on at some point in its lifetime is really irrelevant, which

[45:25] supposed to do is have the property and the roof and everything about it. It's just like

[45:33] it should have existed in 1752 when it was established. And I have a report which I think you've

[45:40] seen by Willie Graham, a curator in the architecture, retired from colonial waves bird. And he

[45:46] made some point that he had used the correct way, which would see it. And it was the correct thickness

[45:52] and applied properly to can last every bit as long as a battle of growth.

[45:57] You can debate with him, but he's really an expert on his subject, and it would argue

[46:02] that the proof originally had to be wood, the one thing we know is it wouldn't be

[46:07] metal.

[46:08] Metal was more of a Victorian era wood, and wood is what would have been toned, wood either

[46:13] wood, that's your slate, certainly wouldn't be that.

[46:17] It's not an Irish cottage, it's slate, we wouldn't know when it would have been preserved.

[46:23] So obviously, I think it's wood, and like for the Graham said, in this read of Ford, the affirmative question is,

[46:32] what roof covering best serves the nationally significant 18th century house interpreted to the 1750s

[46:40] and standing within one of the country's most important historic districts.

[46:45] And I think that's what you all have to focus on.

[46:51] This is a tremendous property.

[46:54] It's a probably the most important property

[46:56] in the old historic District of the city of Alexandria.

[47:00] And it had a wood roof.

[47:02] And if you look at it, it's a four-sided roof.

[47:04] It's stunning.

[47:06] And it's an extra city hall.

[47:08] It's a building where a general threat

[47:11] on the French Union, Barber the other colonies,

[47:15] disperse to the American Washington,

[47:17] was immediately into the British Army

[47:18] and across a street of market squares

[47:21] from the Washington and Trilth of Troops

[47:23] to the French Union in the moment.

[47:26] So I'm just saying that it's iconic,

[47:28] it should stay as it is, it should be wooded.

[47:31] And the fact of them,

[47:34] they're gonna have to be buried again,

[47:36] maybe, in 20 years, and maybe in 30 years,

[47:38] they do a job where they may not.

[47:39] I don't think it's a factor that should be considered by the board.

[47:48] Thank you.

[47:49] Any questions?

[47:51] Any questions?

[47:53] Thank you.

[47:55] Our next speaker is Yale Rock Rock.

[48:07] Today, thank you all members.

[48:09] If you, my name is Caleb on the side.

[48:11] I can feel the bad news rate.

[48:14] About two weeks ago, I was walking along North Lee's street, and I noticed

[48:19] to BIR, hosting, or application of the Carlisle House, and being sometimes volunteer gardener

[48:27] there.

[48:27] I thought, oh, well, they're going to do something with bicycling kind.

[48:31] And I've sure it would be for staff and then it's very important.

[48:35] But by the only, I looked at this.

[48:38] Docket, and it was sort of a change in character of the group.

[48:44] So, this is not appropriate. It's our landmark, high Georgian museum with an opportunity.

[48:54] And I think no dissolution is to preserve our natural and cultural heritage of this really surprised their point for a metal roof.

[49:04] So, turning into the staff report, this certificate of reporting, this standards that should

[49:12] have been found are the 205, A, 2, A, as a report of all architectural design, modern

[49:19] style, and structure, and really architecture, details, include including a visual material in the

[49:32] talks that the original material for this blue was wood. And for the record, just to adhere

[49:41] it in the city's preservation ordinance, the BAR is instructed to apply its standards for a

[49:47] certificate of appropriate snug consistency with it to zone guidelines, which was stated in the

[49:58] Thanks for playing me in this.

[50:00] In the documentation, Martha Raymond National Park Service, retiree with 42-year in preservation, pointed out that the

[50:10] application should be the secretary's standards for restoration. Restoration is the treatment that should be

[50:17] followed where the expressible is for the building to appear in its most significant time in

[50:22] history that period is a child's tenure.

[50:26] And out of the box, former city, the State Organization,

[50:30] architect, NIA, and America's points out that metal groups

[50:33] were not available until the 19th century,

[50:36] and were not common here even until after the Civil War.

[50:41] And my name and this spoken about Louis Williams-Gram's point.

[50:47] And I think we need to address that,

[50:49] because the good news was that Parker would and the materials well

[50:55] asked 15 years of peace, and that experience of the museum spirit.

[51:00] Finally, being slightly at the sabotage, it wasn't

[51:04] replacing the time, because now, of course, as the information and advice

[51:11] to do this operating correctly, I'm putting on with the truth.

[51:16] And it's my belief that none of it could apply for grants from H.A.M. on the San Andreas Association.

[51:25] And from moves like friends and crowd out, the Mike Toussaint fundraising,

[51:29] get helpful and listen to being appropriate with the correct moves.

[51:34] Thanks, you're here three times out.

[51:35] Thank you.

[51:37] Next speaker.

[51:38] Our next speaker is all those who build groups.

[51:44] You can actually, if you guys can be on the blue more,

[51:55] Yeah, I'm going to echo a lot. My name's Alden Philbrooke, I live at 133 North Fairfax Street, which

[52:03] I happen to be the only residential neighbor of the Kyla house I look at every day from the bank

[52:09] of San Diego. And I love his work motivations and feel that everybody should be great stewards

[52:17] of the city and the oldest work district. Carl has had just to be probably the most prominent

[52:23] building in the city for ample reasons. The age, of course, the builder and the founder of Carl

[52:30] off family put it there at the founding of the city. The history that occurred there that my colleagues

[52:37] that through. But also it's open to the public in a location that's very accessible. So they

[52:43] get to come through, see what Alex Andrew is all about. First hand, they go up into the rooms

[52:48] and the staff shows and where the pile of family lived. And it's interpreted to 1753.

[52:54] A lot of other things happened in the building, building was built in 1753. I'm very concerned with

[53:02] the two things, and I hope that one other thing, the Willie Graham report, you read thoroughly

[53:09] because it's a very important of us to have access to Willie. He's done work at the Bank

[53:16] of Alexandria, but also throughout the mid Atlantic. Concerned that the ordinance says that

[53:24] if you can't find evidence of what the roof was, then you have to go back and use material.

[53:32] that's appropriate for the style and for the period and the examples that you saw on the slide

[53:40] are our styles and periods but they're not a carlow house. Metal roofs were not available

[53:47] back in 1753 although there was one in 1880 which is true. That's the first standboard map that

[53:55] shows evidence but that was 130 years after the house was born so

[54:01] are put together, so the houses are historic at that point. And a stone, Jordan, had either

[54:08] slay or wood for the size in the house that wouldn't have been that because of the investment

[54:13] in the house and slay was not available this far south at 1700s. So it pretty much was wood.

[54:21] The willing ram report put its hands on a bowl shingle that was found in the house with

[54:28] 18th century nail holes. So there's there's some circumstantial evidence of wood. But in

[54:36] buried in his report is the fact that if the if the wood material is correct, a white cedar,

[54:42] if it's the right thickness and it's installed correctly with with underlayers of breathing,

[54:47] It will last 30, 40, 50 years or more, so it's not a reason to put wood on metal on a roof.

[55:00] In this case. So I want to appeal to everybody here that would roof as appropriate. That's some de-most important house in Alexandria, and it should be interpreted as it was when I was born.

[55:17] Thank you.

[55:18] Thank you.

[55:19] Thank you.

[55:20] Yes, we have a two more.

[55:22] Will you have a second, sir?

[55:30] Hi, I'm Wilton Kingston. I live in here in Alexandria for almost 50 years. I live at

[55:37] 20-month in Jameson Avenue. I looked served on the part of the board for about 12 years

[55:45] representing Alexandria. So obviously I have a great interest in her loss and so out of the years.

[55:53] I'm agnostic on this issue but I thought I had some information that might be useful to you.

[55:59] All in this fight corrected, there was a report that could out very extensive report in 1980 that looked at the renovation of the house, which took about six years.

[56:11] It took a huge amount of money. It cost at that time two and a half million dollars for the renovation.

[56:18] But that ended today's dollars. That's about 14 million dollars.

[56:22] of them. They went through extensive work, detailed work, no person had had the roof was

[56:30] the ceiling. But it interesting, I'm going to report, I was pointing very little mentioned

[56:36] of the roof. But matter was the hall. It was where the Grand Converse December. It also

[56:45] really put the emphasis and report that the restoration had two purposes. One is to tell

[56:51] The history of the House, and curiously they never mentioned the history after the Grand Congress

[56:59] and never talked about the Civil War, but then he hadn't.

[57:04] That's the way to buzz it.

[57:06] And the second thing is to show the best restoration methods possible.

[57:12] And that's shown in one of the worlds, the interpretable room,

[57:16] chose the 18th century construction techniques along with the, with the restoration.

[57:25] Yes.

[57:27] In 2006, the roof was falling apart. I was on board. It was a devil to get money to work.

[57:37] We got a save of America's treasures, Brandon, from the National Professors, thank you to Jim Moran.

[57:47] And then we had an issue.

[57:50] If we put on seated ribs, by our Marshall did not want the wooden booth in this city.

[57:56] For obvious reasons.

[57:59] But here we start with, we want authenticity, so we went with the idea of a shingle,

[58:09] a seder shingle that was treated with a fire retardant companion with.

[58:15] Now we were told it would probably last 23 years, but it didn't.

[58:20] Or it made me pretty close, but you can see where it is.

[58:23] It's not even been changed.

[58:26] My concern is that that building be protected and preserved.

[58:32] And so you have a balancing issue that this is going to have to do with.

[58:37] As far as the secretaries of guidelines, I'm going to lay them and looking at them or the

[58:44] experts.

[58:45] So I think I did read them and they said, you know, if you want to put electric items in there

[58:52] up, plumber, things like that.

[58:54] That's okay. And also get a compliance with code. So there you go.

[59:02] Thank you so much.

[59:02] So it's up to you all.

[59:05] I want to speak to you.

[59:07] Thank you.

[59:13] This was.

[59:16] Good evening. My name is Bond Wade Kellyanne.

[59:18] I'm president of the Altal Civic Association.

[59:20] I appreciate you're standing off for five minutes.

[59:23] Which I will not take.

[59:24] I don't think.

[59:25] Let me start off with what was on the Mount Vernon website.

[59:31] Wood was the overwhelming church choice for Virginia roofs in Washington days, Savescara.

[59:38] Washington purchased hundreds of thousands of singles for Mount Vernon during his lifetime,

[59:43] most of them split from Cyprus trees cut down in the decimal spot of southern Virginia.

[59:48] So we start with the premise that this wouldn't have been wood.

[59:53] There could have been slaying in those days, you can probably not.

[59:57] My understanding is that slaying sometimes.

[1:00:00] Out over here is shipbelaced and then sold, but I'm not aware of original slate ear in an old town. But that might have been, I think, Mr. Carl L had slate ear to be used it, because he was a wealthy person. He probably undoubtedly used to it.

[1:00:17] So what you're being asked to do is kind of overlook the issue of the period of significance in this case.

[1:00:24] There's one period, the time Scarland also was built.

[1:00:29] That is not the case with a Meridic Fossil House.

[1:00:32] It was a deliberate choice to show that that was a living, a reading occupied house for hundreds of years.

[1:00:40] Now, it was also non-mentioned.

[1:00:42] Was that the front on Prince Street?

[1:00:44] We know to be in wood.

[1:00:47] So even the significant part of the Meridic Fossil House exemplifies what was put on there before.

[1:00:54] And we have a longer period of significance, because of its continued remarkable scene.

[1:01:01] I would also suggest that my friend Joseph and I should probably take a little trip around

[1:01:06] because if I understand it correctly, gas resources now being replacing its wooden shingles.

[1:01:12] And the H.A.F. building on the Wolf Street also recently replaced its roof with shingles,

[1:01:21] presumably with consultation and approval of staff at Swayton, they wanted that to go down.

[1:01:28] Now, I think that the fire issue is, there's a crime on that, there's a fire station, two blocks away from the car last.

[1:01:39] Shingles can be made flame retardant.

[1:01:43] Shingles can also be covered with good

[1:01:47] after they put metal onto the roof to make it a little bit safer.

[1:01:50] Shingles can also be treated so that they last.

[1:01:55] In fact, I'm sorry you may have heard Christine Roberts's

[1:01:59] had a medical emergency in her family.

[1:02:00] It's not able to be here, but she has located

[1:02:03] single companies where they have a 50 year warranty.

[1:02:07] I would suggest that the notion that there was a movie film tier is, okay, what are we going to do?

[1:02:16] Let's, we wouldn't agree that maybe Tara should be maintained because it was a movie, but that's about it.

[1:02:21] If we jumped into the 21st century saying, oh, we could have met it because there was a movie film here.

[1:02:27] We have forgotten everything we were ever supposed to learn about the story preservation.

[1:02:32] So, I would urge you to, let's just keep on working and see what we can do with what we're

[1:02:38] from seeing this.

[1:02:40] The hidden elephant here is cost.

[1:02:42] You're not to consider that.

[1:02:44] Thank you very much.

[1:02:45] Thank you.

[1:02:46] Thank you.

[1:02:47] Thank you.

[1:02:48] Thank you.

[1:02:49] We'll move to the integration of the members.

[1:02:53] Anyone would like to go first.

[1:03:06] If I can, and first of all, I think I have comments from the speakers of many of you who are good partners in volunteers in Carlyow House and shared a lot of this facility.

[1:03:18] My friend Yaban and I, I would be happy to go on a tour with you, but I can save you some time.

[1:03:26] And provide a little bit of a visual tour of a number of properties.

[1:03:33] The individual and historic district with similar roofs from a similar time, hopefully by the BAR.

[1:03:41] Furthermore, I think it's important to note that we interpret multiple periods of significant

[1:03:49] I think the suggestion that there is only one period of historic significance that we can

[1:03:56] interpret a car law house is not accurate. And I would quote, and I think we talked a little

[1:04:02] bit about the Murray-Germann Posit, House, and Al Cox, a commission to report for OHA back in 2023.

[1:04:12] And I quote from that report, for a practical and economic reasons,

[1:04:16] metal roofing has been installed on a majority structure for approximately 100 years.

[1:04:21] The same amount of time the wood shingles were used here.

[1:04:23] So the appearance of a standing seam metal roof has also acquired historic importance in its own

[1:04:28] right as a character defining feature of the dwelling should be reinstalled in master material

[1:04:33] appearance of a original as closely as possible. And so I think it's important to note that again

[1:04:39] for a significant portion of the history of Karla House,

[1:04:43] we have had a roof of much akin to what we are proposing

[1:04:47] to install.

[1:04:49] And I'm happy to answer any additional questions for boarder.

[1:04:53] Thank you.

[1:04:59] Is there no?

[1:05:05] Thank you. Thank you all and we've been parted. Thank you, Mr. Wilson and even staff for your recommendations.

[1:05:18] I have been, when I first read about this, I wondered why slate was being proposed and I understand that that would have been an option.

[1:05:29] way back when I was involved in the transaction on the 100 block of

[1:05:33] French Street that had played as its root, but it was still in the 1780s.

[1:05:43] So I do know it's an option, and then the story is that it came in as

[1:05:47] balanced as I believe one of you mentioned, in a ship and that ship owner

[1:05:52] with the slate on the roof, and it's still there to believe it or not.

[1:05:57] So I guess this thing's happened.

[1:05:59] I take it at your word, Mr. Chep and Dan,

[1:06:03] and that this was very likely it would be from the get-go.

[1:06:10] I am of the most disposition that this is a wonderful opportunity for you all

[1:06:16] to restore it to its original brand.

[1:06:20] This is this house, this home is really in rarefire air in Virginia and that's throughout our country

[1:06:26] with its history. So many people can have the whole town speak of the parliament houses. So I'm

[1:06:33] saying, wow, you know, we made it a little cold for you all the soil. I think the appropriate thing

[1:06:39] to do is put the wood roof on this house, and that is how I will vote. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:06:48] Thank you so much for your stewardship of this property, and I appreciate everything you're saying.

[1:06:55] I do think that Mr. Graham presents a compelling case for the lynch involved, as well as techniques that can be considered and applying them that might make the race last longer.

[1:07:08] And as you know, it's not our job to assess costs or maintenance and our deliberations, but rather what is appropriate to the age and the significance of the building.

[1:07:17] given this is a museum that's largely interpreted from the 1750s and given the fact that we are

[1:07:25] in Virginia and potentially the school standard of historic homes, including Mount Vernon,

[1:07:32] just to keep miles down the road. I think if we want to be taken seriously as a historic destination

[1:07:38] in Virginia, we need to take the route for the car while I have seriously and assume the right

[1:07:45] Thank you, Marie. I too would prefer to see which she most replaced and properly done and that's all of it. Thank you, Mrs. Vincent.

[1:07:57] Thank you everyone for your speaking on this item and I really appreciate the work that has been done and information has been delighted to us for this.

[1:08:08] Typically, I am not one for saying that something Alexandria should be a sealed box,

[1:08:15] sealed museum box and nothing should ever change.

[1:08:18] But on this particular item, I tend to mean with my colleagues that it would be appropriate,

[1:08:26] but maybe there are more modern installation methods that could help it last longer, which

[1:08:35] maybe more expensive upfront today,

[1:08:37] but actually wouldn't save you money in the long run,

[1:08:40] that you should explore as far as instructions

[1:08:42] that can instant actually make that work last long.

[1:08:45] Thank you.

[1:08:47] And I hope the opinions on the rest of the members

[1:08:51] want to admit it, but it's very important building.

[1:08:55] He's very unique and I believe it's worth it.

[1:09:01] We don't have to ask to their cost,

[1:09:02] I'm sorry, it's not spending a little bit more on keeping two to their history of the building.

[1:09:08] So I think in the place where it wouldn't, but it wouldn't quite be done.

[1:09:13] And done property and so it does.

[1:09:17] And we want to would like to do something.

[1:09:20] In fact,

[1:09:26] we have a lot of emotional debates in the process.

[1:09:29] The proven condition of the conflict is looking in very early work.

[1:09:33] I think we have a lot of it, but we have a lot of it.

[1:09:37] We have a lot of it.

[1:09:38] We have a lot of it.

[1:09:38] What's that?

[1:09:40] Because there's a lot of it.

[1:09:42] Yeah.

[1:09:42] I think here in our unanimous.

[1:09:44] From the board.

[1:09:45] I don't think there's any merit in requesting a deferral.

[1:09:48] I think we'll make a decision about whether to see going to film.

[1:09:51] Can we start?

[1:09:52] All right.

[1:09:53] make a motion. Our motion to improve with the condition of using the appropriate for it to keep it down.

[1:10:00] I'm saying it's proper period of 1732, with all the line to read that there can be, to make sure that it's safe and as it can be.

[1:10:16] Second.

[1:10:17] Madam Chair, can I clarify into the motion?

[1:10:21] So, our request is to replace the room with a metal scene, which was recommended by staff.

[1:10:28] I think what I'm hearing is not a denial. I'm hearing an approval of a request that we're not making.

[1:10:36] So I want to be clear on what the motion is that it's been asked to hear and so.

[1:10:41] Another denial of changing the rules to the material of it.

[1:10:45] Well, so the over quest to just replace the roof in life is an administrative request.

[1:10:51] It's not the request that we have to take before the board tonight.

[1:10:56] That's the problem, but I'm making motion to deny this application.

[1:11:02] Second.

[1:11:09] This is not worth it.

[1:11:12] Thank you.

[1:11:13] This is not worth it.

[1:11:15] We can do it.

[1:11:16] Excuse me.

[1:11:17] I'm falling paper.

[1:11:20] Hi.

[1:11:24] Thank you.

[1:11:27] We'll take a bite in this way.

[1:11:29] and bad at very point.

[1:11:37] Thank you very much.

[1:11:43] Thank you very much, thank you very much.

[1:11:44] How long has it been?

[1:11:45] I've been here for a couple of days.

[1:11:49] You've been away from me for a couple of days.

[1:11:52] You've been away from me for a couple of days.

[1:11:52] Didn't I think much about that?

[1:16:29] All right.

[1:20:00] I'm sorry, sorry.

[1:20:43] I'm sorry.

[1:20:45] I've listened to my point of view.

[1:20:48] I have a kind of work to return.

[1:20:50] This is nine is B.R.

[1:20:51] I'm 26.

[1:20:53] There's here at 27.

[1:20:54] I'm a short and a short and a short and short.

[1:20:56] First of all, I'm a three and three five and then with

[1:20:58] Royal students, applicants,

[1:21:00] fall into the atmosphere.

[1:21:04] Yes, she was all too.

[1:21:06] Good privacy screen on the second floor.

[1:21:08] or your northeast elevation deck.

[1:21:11] On page two of the report, you can see the site context

[1:21:16] is in the corner unit with residentials,

[1:21:18] a budding goes to the south and the east of the center side.

[1:21:22] The proposed crime signals will be visible

[1:21:24] for Princess Street in Northern Royal Street.

[1:21:27] Page three of the report shows the placement

[1:21:29] of the proposed screens, and there's more photos on page

[1:21:32] of 13 and 14, including photos

[1:21:35] around the boundary itself.

[1:21:36] Page 3 also draws attention to the design standards that include that the design should not hide

[1:21:44] secure obscure or cause removal of the historic architectural elements, it should be made of

[1:21:50] materials which are synthetic to the building material generally found in the historic district,

[1:21:56] and it should generally maintain a predominant color in the building or the color of the

[1:22:06] Thank you. Thank you in the state. You're name and name.

[1:22:10] All of us. I'm working on the public three, three, five, not four years.

[1:22:15] Thank you. Would you like to make your presentation or just add a question?

[1:22:20] I just want to do one of the presentation.

[1:22:23] I sent in the deal that they want to saw the staff recommendation

[1:22:28] three additional photos.

[1:22:30] Did you see them?

[1:22:31] Do you want me to like a gallery group into the same place?

[1:22:35] I can't believe it.

[1:22:36] It's reverse until the end of the year.

[1:22:38] Sorry, I don't mind.

[1:22:39] Whatever you're going to think, I think it may not sound like so.

[1:22:41] So, okay.

[1:22:43] The first photo is the photo of the year of our house.

[1:22:50] And I just wanted to indicate that the architecture between the two homes there are very, very

[1:22:56] similar, well, most identical. The second photo is our neighborhood adjacent neighbor who also has

[1:23:04] a privacy screen already in on her report on her dad. And then the third photo is a picture of what

[1:23:16] we view from our deck, which is property that's on Princess Street, the orientation that we see

[1:23:25] to side of the house all the way down to where they're, where they're there list. And the view from

[1:23:34] those windows actually looked onto our deck invited to our master bedroom. And we have a four

[1:23:43] last panel door on the deck itself. So that's pretty, pretty over. So that's the, that was

[1:23:50] what the original request was. And so my response was really to the staff concerns. The first

[1:23:58] one was that the proposal was incompatible with the impact of capital's character of the building.

[1:24:04] And then the second one is that the building is located at a gateway to the historic district,

[1:24:10] which I never knew was really a station.

[1:24:14] And so I'm not really sure what exactly I've had.

[1:24:18] But we came up in this photograph,

[1:24:21] you can see that the townhouse immediately next door,

[1:24:24] which has a saying not to textually design burglar,

[1:24:28] has an existing privacy screening

[1:24:29] appropriated into it, into it,

[1:24:31] deaf and heard of the structure.

[1:24:33] And I understand that that screening

[1:24:36] was a through-pilot-forwarded

[1:24:37] of the development. This is particularly relevant because the proposed screening on my

[1:24:44] public would serve essentially the same architectural and privacy function, the existing neighbouring

[1:24:51] example of demonstrating that the privacy screening can be incorporated into the structure

[1:24:56] what we're meeting.

[1:24:58] Compatible.

[1:25:00] And the architecture of the overall development.

[1:25:07] And so, you know, we've been concerned about the fact that we want to implement

[1:25:12] or integrate into the existing architecture of the building. And we definitely feel like we're there with a need there for privacy. So we request that there's a positive news for us.

[1:25:27] Do any members of the board have a question for the audience?

[1:25:33] We need to do a couple of things.

[1:25:34] We need to have a couple of things.

[1:25:36] Sure.

[1:25:37] Can we have the public speaker?

[1:25:40] I mean, I believe it's a good idea.

[1:25:42] I don't know if we can.

[1:25:44] Yes, please.

[1:25:45] Excuse me.

[1:25:46] Members of the board.

[1:25:47] Stephen Flintski.

[1:25:49] One or four north west stream.

[1:25:51] I haven't met Mr. Leslie before, but I did want to say this is a project

[1:25:56] that my office did about 10 years ago.

[1:25:59] There is nothing historic visible from this mad dad.

[1:26:04] I see what Mr. Leslie do to me.

[1:26:07] And I respect it.

[1:26:08] This is something that we would have done

[1:26:10] had the money been there earlier on in another minute.

[1:26:14] Perform a critical opportunity to develop this.

[1:26:17] There's nothing sacred about this.

[1:26:21] I think you should allow this.

[1:26:23] no offense at all very proud of these buildings. I'd like that they're the gateway to the

[1:26:28] historic district, because there's a little historic sign across the street saying this is

[1:26:31] the historic district, and there's a lot of informational line where you see that picture and you see

[1:26:36] these four houses that were developed. They're kind of unclined in their historic, you know,

[1:26:40] we're not, I think it was a successful project, but we expected it to adapt over time like this,

[1:26:48] Thank you.

[1:26:49] Thank you.

[1:26:51] Any other member of the public?

[1:26:54] We will wish to speak on this.

[1:26:56] No.

[1:26:57] We'll open to the deliberation of the board members.

[1:27:00] Any more?

[1:27:01] Would you like to go first?

[1:27:06] I agree with Mr. Coolinski.

[1:27:09] I think that screening on this property.

[1:27:11] I think the appropriate I don't have an issue with the screening.

[1:27:13] I do have some concerns about the design of the screen, and I wonder if the applicants might consider doing something that's more similar to the next door neighbors that's more of a lattice design as opposed to the heavy slats.

[1:27:25] I feel like the slats are, it feels chunky and create a lot of extra lines that don't agree with the other lines, whereas the lattice might be more compatible also with the rest of the experiment.

[1:27:37] I mean, we're just going to go further by machine to.

[1:27:42] Thank you.

[1:27:43] I want to go.

[1:27:45] Well, as I said, if you're totally fine with that,

[1:27:48] I'm totally fine with improving that.

[1:27:51] Thank you.

[1:27:52] Is this the same thing?

[1:27:53] Yes.

[1:27:53] Okay.

[1:27:54] Say here.

[1:27:56] Do you want to make that?

[1:27:57] I'm in the mission that we approve the certificate

[1:28:02] with the stipulation that the lattice is designed to appear

[1:28:07] the same as the next one.

[1:28:10] Last.

[1:28:13] Second.

[1:28:16] So this is not a local, right?

[1:28:19] So it's not a local.

[1:28:20] It's a global.

[1:28:21] All in favor.

[1:28:22] Hi.

[1:28:23] Hi.

[1:28:23] Any opposed?

[1:28:24] No.

[1:28:25] Thank you.

[1:28:27] Right.

[1:28:30] We need to talk to you.

[1:28:32] Thanks.

[1:28:33] I don't know.

[1:28:34] What do you think?

[1:28:36] Yes.

[1:28:37] I'm going to.

[1:28:38] It's been around 20 to 26, there's a particular, there's a particular,

[1:28:43] a historic district, that's the course of demolition,

[1:28:45] a capitalization in 213 South Africa,

[1:28:47] actually.

[1:28:48] But I think it's a job.

[1:28:49] It's going to be over.

[1:28:51] We'll send it by John for the whole Colony.

[1:28:53] It's going to be tight.

[1:28:54] So there's going to be two hundred and twenty eights,

[1:28:57] where being of the west or rear,

[1:28:59] basically law and removal of the existing course,

[1:29:02] screening and brain and guard around this project

[1:29:05] in demolition only.

[1:29:06] On page 2 of the report, you'll see the site context from this project as a standalone recall with a private alley to the south pages 11 and 16 of the reports shows the rear section to be encapsulated.

[1:29:22] Page 3 of the report walks you through the demolition.

[1:29:26] right here, okay, for the report has the exact recommendation.

[1:29:32] Yep.

[1:29:33] Yes, I think in this, say your name, I'd like to answer this, whatever.

[1:29:36] John and the whole fact, this is totally over the last few days.

[1:29:43] I haven't answered questions, but I think it's really straightforward.

[1:29:48] You know, for yourself, I don't know what you're going to do.

[1:29:51] Any questions about the board members?

[1:29:53] You know, it would be having any members of the public, but would like to speak on it.

[1:30:00] Okay, you'll open to the integration, or are you even going to make a motion?

[1:30:05] I don't think the motion for approval. I'm sorry, I'm not yet. I'd like the motion for approval, which there are recommendations.

[1:30:15] Okay, you and do me this.

[1:30:17] Roll.

[1:30:17] Mr. Roll, go ahead and do me the second.

[1:30:19] Second.

[1:30:25] Aye.

[1:30:26] Special.

[1:30:27] Aye.

[1:30:29] Aye.

[1:30:31] Thank you.

[1:30:32] Thank you.

[1:30:32] Thank you, congratulations.

[1:30:34] Thank you.

[1:30:36] President, I have about 15.

[1:30:38] It's six seasons.

[1:30:40] We are in 26th of the action.

[1:30:43] 302.

[1:30:44] 18.

[1:30:44] Through a district.

[1:30:45] We're all.

[1:30:45] Pression.

[1:30:47] At 8.117.

[1:30:48] Columbus.

[1:30:49] We have it.

[1:30:50] It's a gentleman.

[1:30:50] We are.

[1:30:52] We are.

[1:30:53] We are.

[1:30:54] We are.

[1:30:55] We are.

[1:30:56] We are.

[1:30:59] We are.

[1:31:00] information and in one of the stuff that we have a series of down here is Jennifer Berger,

[1:31:06] instead of like that we would like to.

[1:31:08] Hi.

[1:31:08] Good evening.

[1:31:09] I'm Diane Greitha.

[1:31:10] It's just one question.

[1:31:12] Oh, one question.

[1:31:12] Thank you.

[1:31:13] Really fine.

[1:31:15] The most local work is to demolish a hundred square feet of a group area on the front east

[1:31:19] elevation and then to construct a normal windows on the front east elevation.

[1:31:24] On page two of the report you'll see that the site context for this project is part of a

[1:31:29] from 8 town homes, but a public alley

[1:31:32] to the west and southern side.

[1:31:34] The proposed normalers will be visible

[1:31:36] from South Columbia Street and Jefferson.

[1:31:39] I'm paid for, I'm paid for shows

[1:31:44] to be late in the month of the dormers.

[1:31:48] And then we draw attention to the design standards

[1:31:51] that say the style of scale of the dormers should be appropriate

[1:31:54] to the art circle style, dormers should not be taller

[1:31:57] than the existing red line of the route, dormant sachet should be compatible with the other

[1:32:02] sachet than the train on the structure. New dormant should be censored on or between

[1:32:07] existing windows and then lastly dormant side walls, maybe covered, matched the existing

[1:32:13] group material that is with slate profile. And then page 5 has the staff recommendation.

[1:32:20] Hi, good evening, I'm Diane Breva, and I'm at 3303 on Day of Landing, and the client would greatly appreciate, she has a large space up there in the attic and wants to utilize it and have egress as well.

[1:32:38] So this would be a perfect fit, sort of mirroring some of the architectural dormers on the street there.

[1:32:47] And we'll follow the staff recommendations.

[1:32:52] Thank you.

[1:32:54] Do any more members have questions from the applicant?

[1:32:58] No.

[1:32:58] Any public members who would like to speak?

[1:33:06] We'll open for deliberation.

[1:33:07] I think four members do you have any comments or want to make a decision?

[1:33:12] Make a motion to approve for a staff recommendation.

[1:33:14] Thank you.

[1:33:17] Second.

[1:33:18] Second.

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[1:33:37] I'm a volunteer.

[1:33:37] We're leaving very long.

[1:33:39] I'm going to suggest to board that I am 17 in 18.

[1:33:44] 19 and 20, we discussed this together because they are, um,

[1:33:49] obviously they're actually each other.

[1:33:50] They work the same time.

[1:33:52] All those things I'm just suggesting for them,

[1:33:54] it's sort of a signal, uh,

[1:33:55] grabbing them more, uh,

[1:33:58] discussing them together,

[1:33:59] and then we will need to do a separate boat for each one,

[1:34:02] um, if the board was gave it up.

[1:34:04] Yes.

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[1:35:01] And I should have asked, is the amount that I don't able to sit right at least for all of our public together in a person.

[1:35:10] So the proposed local work is to demolish the portions of the rear of the structure and the roof of the building for the construction of a new equipment.

[1:35:19] It's also structured edition on the third floor to the existing building and the three, four,

[1:35:25] addition to the rear of the existing building. On the H2 of the report, you'll see the site

[1:35:30] context for this project is a former personal. Those are the dueplex originally in 1926.

[1:35:37] All three sides, the building is a full-grown public right away.

[1:35:41] pages before and by show some sort of renderings, and then page two things, also draws attention

[1:35:52] to the design standards, but both go ahead and wash Washington's strait. They're two separate

[1:35:58] standards. Let's get together. I'll just read some of them that say addition should remain

[1:36:03] some warning to them to the smart structure. New works should be compatible but distinguishable.

[1:36:09] material should be a should complement the primary building in general the group or should reflect

[1:36:15] the group forms expressed along with block space and lastly the design of the addition of the

[1:36:22] and the two-day existing building shall and complementary to the sort of buildings bound on Washington

[1:36:27] It's free.

[1:36:28] They should have known that the forum has a sound presentation.

[1:36:33] Thank you.

[1:36:34] Would you like to give me a second?

[1:36:36] Sure.

[1:36:36] Quick.

[1:36:36] Stephen Plinsky.

[1:36:39] Four or four more of the West Street.

[1:36:41] I just like hearing Bill say.

[1:36:43] My name is David Taylor.

[1:36:45] Yeah, I'm saying.

[1:36:46] I think the whole reason why I'm going to be.

[1:36:49] Just.

[1:36:50] Just.

[1:36:50] Group.

[1:36:51] We're.

[1:36:51] When clients are taking the building.

[1:36:53] And it's currently used as commercial offices.

[1:36:55] And we're going to try to convert back to the two original residences that it was.

[1:37:01] And then too, we're keeping everything as carefully as possible, along Washington's street,

[1:37:06] of the Rebecca Washington Street design guidelines.

[1:37:09] And we did everything, we did everything for the differential to the original building and

[1:37:12] the Washington Street and our design.

[1:37:15] It's stepped out on the bag.

[1:37:18] You can see it.

[1:37:19] I think the report is that report very, very, very nicely presented all that and my

[1:37:27] confidence that we're going to come up to new staff report format because it really is a big

[1:37:32] big improvement.

[1:37:33] All staff reports you find, but this is really helps you look at that six, so I'm here

[1:37:38] to answer any questions.

[1:37:43] You do any member or membering the questions for the answer again?

[1:37:51] Any public members would like to speak on this application?

[1:37:56] Okay. We'll close the public portion and open to the integration.

[1:38:04] Ms. Brad, we'd like to.

[1:38:08] So, I think this is a nicely expressed building, I've been curious to know what you were going to do since we approved the demolition of the garage behind.

[1:38:18] So I'd like to see this come to light and I think that's the terracing and the stepping down and the variation materials is very attractive.

[1:38:29] I have one concern and it's the Chinese.

[1:38:32] My first concern about the chimneys was that they're not in the same spot that I recognize after driving by that they're not in the same spot in the original building, which is a little weird, but it is an asymmetrical front.

[1:38:46] But clearly, I assume this is because the chimneys had to be raised and they feel very prominent to me now as these sort of silos and previously they were connected to the building.

[1:38:59] And now they're just sort of shooting up in the air without kind of any connection to the actual building.

[1:39:07] And I don't have that being absorbed, but I would love to see a different solution.

[1:39:12] The difference solution is to remove the chimney, so it's the only way to do it and still have functioning in it.

[1:39:18] And is that because you want them to be whipped burning?

[1:39:22] Does it have to be offensive that way if it's a gas?

[1:39:26] It really comes down to, comes down to the manning factor, specifications, and if it's an open gas,

[1:39:36] thing it needs for chili and for clearance to feed above anything within 10 feet.

[1:39:43] But if it's, but if it's a seal, that, that, that, that, that, you can, you can, you can do different things like a bring a event.

[1:39:51] event, event, out to side, but I think that would be significantly worse than raising these

[1:39:57] chimneys up to 3 or 4 feet per third to go now.

[1:40:01] I mean, I like the prominence of a chimney, so I'm not in odds with it,

[1:40:11] but there is no good, easy solution, just a little more.

[1:40:16] Thank you.

[1:40:18] Thank you.

[1:40:20] That's a fantastic.

[1:40:21] Sure.

[1:40:23] I agree with the Chinese solution, but I also understand concern, I guess.

[1:40:30] Typically, in Alexandria, we do have a mystery of having nicely designed shemies and maybe there's a little more

[1:40:37] design aesthetic applied to the shemies, there's some nice brick work for some decorative brick,

[1:40:42] allowing us to make it feel like it's a statement and not just the functional shemies back up on the sides.

[1:40:50] As a possible option.

[1:40:52] And we could embellish the top of the work, we weren't going to do anything below.

[1:40:57] You could do it.

[1:40:58] I mean, typically when I think of the nice, rounded families, they were like, you know, the top

[1:41:04] or maybe a few people.

[1:41:06] That they're actually, we'd be glad to consider, you know,

[1:41:10] with staff or approval and, you know, kind of a,

[1:41:13] a more articulated top of the children.

[1:41:16] Yeah.

[1:41:16] I hope that will help then become more of what we come to love about some of the

[1:41:22] Alexander Chimney.

[1:41:23] They are actually statement pieces of the house.

[1:41:27] Other than that, I think the design is good.

[1:41:29] It was a great design.

[1:41:30] I really appreciate the way it steps back and it steps down as it goes further to the

[1:41:35] rear and that doesn't really impose itself on Washington.

[1:41:40] Thank you.

[1:41:44] I'm looking at, okay, I think you've done a wonderful job and I'm very excited to see

[1:41:50] that this has been converted back to residences and I've been asking myself why we don't

[1:41:57] see more of this in the city of Alexandria because we have vacant commercial spaces and we have

[1:42:06] A national need for more housing, and so rather than building new housing, a lot of here on Zanderep.

[1:42:13] It would be great to see more of this happening, conversions from Ethiopia, or less than full office to be residential.

[1:42:22] But like that.

[1:42:23] All right, that's totally off the point.

[1:42:24] But I've been pleased with the Nature Project.

[1:42:29] From a picture of age 5 in your form to me, it looks like the chimneys of the same height.

[1:42:41] It's not the height.

[1:42:44] Yes.

[1:42:44] I do imagine the location on the side of the patient.

[1:42:47] But they're not.

[1:42:48] We're still raising the light of the children.

[1:42:51] But those are being raised.

[1:42:52] They're currently the same height.

[1:42:53] And they will be raised.

[1:42:54] Same height.

[1:42:55] They're just on.

[1:42:56] Exactly.

[1:42:56] Once the other back in the elevation.

[1:42:59] I said, was that your friend's turn?

[1:43:01] My concern was the height.

[1:43:03] Is that the only change you're making for the Chinese?

[1:43:06] Is that the only change you're making for the Chinese?

[1:43:09] just behind. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's your concern for both children. Yeah, I guess. They're not

[1:43:15] placed symmetrically on the side of the building, right. But that's just the fact of the

[1:43:20] chimneys. Especially since they've been raised to clear the top red line, they're really standing

[1:43:28] out to me. All right. This also reminds me of a building in the 200-blood of South Fairfax Street.

[1:43:37] Yeah, I think that we just referred before you, the portfolios.

[1:43:42] Well, this is right next door to them.

[1:43:44] And it's two, a sister house,

[1:43:46] this may have been next door to them.

[1:43:48] Sister minds may have very much of that.

[1:43:51] Pardon that for my ramble likes.

[1:43:52] I would like to approve this.

[1:43:57] Thank you.

[1:43:58] I think it's a great design.

[1:44:00] And the second fact is I appreciate that.

[1:44:05] And the change in material.

[1:44:07] I really do appreciate that.

[1:44:09] I keep the information on the chimneys,

[1:44:11] it's really important to the series of the buildings

[1:44:14] as wood burning, especially, I think it's right.

[1:44:19] I agree that it would be a little bit more

[1:44:22] ornate, but it would be nice, but.

[1:44:26] That's our potential of work.

[1:44:27] We'd love that opportunity.

[1:44:29] Thank you.

[1:44:30] I convinced my clients.

[1:44:34] So, do we make a nice end?

[1:44:37] I'll make a motion to make a motion to approve about this and I do vote for one time.

[1:44:42] Let's talk here tonight.

[1:44:43] So let's think about what I do need to separate votes.

[1:44:45] So let's call this one for 17.

[1:44:48] Okay.

[1:44:49] Make a motion to approve 17 and 18 first.

[1:44:52] Next recommendation.

[1:44:55] You want to include the.

[1:44:56] You want to focus that on the.

[1:44:58] I'll see you in the next one.

[1:45:00] 19, 2020.

[1:45:02] I think you want to move on to one of the more with the staff on the record of the post project.

[1:45:12] Okay. Oh, I was looking at it. One was for demolition of everything.

[1:45:17] Oh, okay.

[1:45:18] What's in my opinion is 500?

[1:45:19] Yes, I see. Well, now that I read, I'm not reading the words at all.

[1:45:24] Yes, I'm reading the words at all.

[1:45:29] would staff to enhance the chimney brickwork.

[1:45:37] Second.

[1:45:40] So the problem.

[1:45:41] Yes.

[1:45:45] And this is a roll.

[1:45:46] I'm a 12.

[1:45:48] I.

[1:45:49] I'm a 12.

[1:45:51] I.

[1:45:52] So that's 17 18 that's 500.

[1:45:55] So in 1920, I make a motion to approve first that recommendations and that the architect works with staff to enhance the.

[1:46:03] a part of the Chimney brickwork.

[1:46:07] Same motion.

[1:46:09] Like that.

[1:46:10] I remember some business.

[1:46:11] I used to say I've been the first one.

[1:46:12] No.

[1:46:12] They call that.

[1:46:13] They call that.

[1:46:14] Like that.

[1:46:17] So, sorry.

[1:46:19] I'm trying to make sure I'm trying to make it.

[1:46:21] Okay.

[1:46:25] And this is the balance problem.

[1:46:27] I.

[1:46:28] Specific.

[1:46:31] I.

[1:46:33] I.

[1:46:35] Thank you. Thank you all.

[1:46:37] Thank you.

[1:46:38] Thank you.

[1:46:40] Thank you.

[1:46:48] All right.

[1:46:50] I don't know what's going to happen.

[1:46:54] This is B&R.

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[1:47:00] The professor of operations and excited to monitor

[1:47:02] the online forum, and it must be busy.

[1:47:04] That would be good, isn't it?

[1:47:05] They have been made up of this and it will change from the second.

[1:47:10] The professor of the work is to install the read,

[1:47:12] be-low, elicinated wall signs on the west

[1:47:15] of northern and south elevations.

[1:47:18] On page two of the report, you'll see the site context

[1:47:21] for this project is a seven-story office building

[1:47:23] surrounded by commercial and residential buildings.

[1:47:26] The professor signs will be visible from north-washing

[1:47:29] it's street, first street, Montgomery Street, and North St.

[1:47:32] Asaf Street, page three of the report shows placement of the proposed signs here.

[1:47:40] Page three also draws attention to the sign standards, which include sign letter,

[1:47:45] and should be appropriately scaled to the sign and optimized for pedestrian viewing.

[1:47:50] Sign should be attached to the manner that causes the least damage to the bill in material.

[1:47:54] The board discourage you internally illuminated the little live back lit in the on the style sign and where signs of lighting the elimination should be adjustable with the final level determined in the field by staff and the color of the light should be warmer rather than a lighter slash bullet page 4 of the report has the HV staff recommendation.

[1:48:20] Thank you.

[1:48:21] on television, Virginia, representing the governor, to tenon, and everybody else associated

[1:48:29] with the sign.

[1:48:30] Would you like to make a presentation or just add?

[1:48:33] Well, I mean, again, so this is a little bit different than the last time I'm solving.

[1:48:38] This is a commercial, you know, this is on North Washington Street.

[1:48:42] This is a commercial building.

[1:48:44] Do you understand that there are some residences around, but this building towers, this is kind

[1:48:51] big, the tallest building in the area. So when you come down, you know, from National Airport,

[1:48:57] this is, you start to get into town. This is one of the first buildings that you see under

[1:49:01] left. So we agree with everything in the staff report except one thing. And probably going to

[1:49:21] this type of side.

[1:49:24] That's really, it's a yellow. It's not white. I understand that the LED

[1:49:30] kelp is launched from 3,000 to 7,500. You get to 7,000 to 7,500. They're bright, stark white.

[1:49:38] But I don't think it's appropriate that when they look up the information on LEDs and kelp is 3,000

[1:49:46] They talk about that being indoor, type of soft lighting for offices for smaller areas.

[1:49:55] So I'm hoping that you guys will consider allowing.

[1:50:00] Something a little bit more this white. I mean, my client has a, you know, their colors are red, white and blue. They don't want a sign that's red, yellow and blue.

[1:50:14] And I mean, questions from this as I have board members. I have a question. I just want to clarify. This is currently an illuminated and interestingly, there are some, yes, there are current, we are replacing that's location.

[1:50:29] are the exact same location.

[1:50:31] Almost.

[1:50:32] There are on the front where you see

[1:50:34] AFTA and photo one.

[1:50:36] Above there, there's something

[1:50:38] says five star.

[1:50:40] They are like the owners of the building.

[1:50:42] That goes away.

[1:50:44] And the new AFTA sign goes

[1:50:45] more adding a sign around.

[1:50:48] I think it's photo three

[1:50:50] of the South elevation.

[1:50:51] That's a brand new sign.

[1:50:53] There's no sign there on that elevation right now.

[1:50:55] But that elevation faces the river

[1:50:58] And when planes come in, I think they want that kind of look if people are going to look over and they're going to see that the outside. Why I don't know, but I think that they want their name to that.

[1:51:11] They put a number one, if you said that it's on a movement where it is too far.

[1:51:15] There is already a sign right now, this is after, but there's two signs on that elevation right now.

[1:51:20] a bug in that where the cursor is, says five star.

[1:51:25] And that one is waiting.

[1:51:26] They're all alone, they're all alone, they're all alone.

[1:51:29] It's where they're working right now.

[1:51:31] I don't know, but they all, and that's not working.

[1:51:35] Okay, so the new ones will, but yes, but they are all supposedly, I mean, if you go up there,

[1:51:43] you can see the what?

[1:51:44] This is one of them to be illuminated, and I hate them to be a low-liminated, which is appropriate,

[1:51:52] and not front-leg.

[1:51:54] And so it's still the soft, office type of look versus a retail, you know,

[1:52:00] that start retail look that you get.

[1:52:02] They are illuminated now, or they're supposed to be illuminated now.

[1:52:05] So at one point, they were approved to be illuminated.

[1:52:08] it. So we'd like that, but we'd like you to consider instead of that 3,000 kelvin restriction

[1:52:16] to let us do something that's 5,000 kelvin is considered white. Consider daylight white.

[1:52:26] And we would like something that's white. So when you look at it in the evening,

[1:52:31] there's a white halo around it and not a yellow around as your doll.

[1:52:35] Thank you. Thank you. This is not, I mean, I understand that it's technically old tunnel,

[1:52:43] but I mean, again, this is a seven-story office building. And if you're going to put it all

[1:52:50] of this building, a brick office building, I mean, you've got to allow, or you hope that you

[1:52:56] consider allowing the tennis to have an appropriate sign.

[1:53:01] Yeah, I guess the owner and the tenant is asked about talent.

[1:53:06] Oh, is it?

[1:53:07] So I have a question for Mr. Compton.

[1:53:13] So when we just mean, this is just me talking off my head,

[1:53:19] when we do our guidelines, I think most of the time,

[1:53:22] when I think of our advice,

[1:53:24] and typically not, not depending on your status,

[1:53:28] but that out front.

[1:53:30] I typically think of walking down to the street and seeing small residential, not residential, but smaller buildings, kind of street-level, street-level, where you typically would want something that's kind of a soft work, right?

[1:53:46] That's kind of how I think of our science.

[1:53:48] Yeah, I mean, the vast majority of the science that we see, the practices and the statuses

[1:53:52] of the mystery of the vast majority are a string of military systems, right, and the

[1:53:57] political temperature that we've felt as an organization has been based on that as the

[1:54:04] type of statuses, I guess, yes, that is the vast majority of the things

[1:54:13] that I have, my concern

[1:54:18] is that we go pull more with this light fiction. That it will be too strong, even though it's

[1:54:25] seven stories of it. So I have another thing to really judge this off of. I might have me

[1:54:33] would do that that 3,000 calories might be too low, but I'm not sure if going far plus is the light

[1:54:48] particular temperature.

[1:54:51] It can be adjusted. It can be you can get them to read there

[1:54:57] or they're adjusted. Adjustable.

[1:55:00] We can do that. But usually you determine how bright you want it, and that's what you get for your LEDs, because they make 3,000, 354,000, 5,000, 6,500, 7,000, 7,000. So when there's no restrictions, we're always going to put in 7,000 or 75,000, because people watch the cloud, you know, they look at it as my sign is bright and everything.

[1:55:23] But trying to be sensitive to your guys or performance, we thought, I mean, 5,000, like I said, it's considered daylight.

[1:55:35] And I think that fair compromise between a really stark bright 7,000, you know, fade versus a very yellowy 3,000, 3500.

[1:55:47] Okay, so we just want it to be white versus, you know, yellow and I looked up and was lighting LED light expert dot com and they talked about the different Kelvin's and, you know, 3,000 kit it produces a warm calm inviting light that is great for general indoor lighting, you know, 4,000, 4,66500 is crisp.

[1:56:17] pure white light, 5,000, which is really

[1:56:20] what we're asking is daylight, white,

[1:56:22] used for outdoor lighting.

[1:56:23] That's what it says in there.

[1:56:25] Can you go and worry about it?

[1:56:27] What is that?

[1:56:27] This white light.

[1:56:28] I know that the thing is still much higher up on the buildings,

[1:56:33] so it's not light.

[1:56:34] And one of them on the north side is directly facing residential buildings.

[1:56:39] But this is the north side, is that?

[1:56:43] It's the first street.

[1:56:47] The third life of the farm, the one that's like the apartment building or whatever, but it will be higher than the apartment building.

[1:56:55] So, and it's halo illuminated. So, it's not that it's going to be shooting any time to clear into anybody's windows or anybody's, you know,

[1:57:04] I had, I thought we were going to find this way.

[1:57:07] I'm sorry.

[1:57:08] But again, being Halo a little bit, I think.

[1:57:10] Yeah.

[1:57:11] I understand what you're saying with Versus.

[1:57:13] You know, if it was front that sign, where it was a letter,

[1:57:17] that would be much more stormed.

[1:57:19] I'm going to ask the same question.

[1:57:20] Can't you order it with the range?

[1:57:22] I didn't read that 33,000 houses probably too low for this application.

[1:57:28] I'm not going to say that that's not true.

[1:57:30] Maybe we've been learning about how to build a level of 1,000 or 1,000 or 1,000 to 6,000.

[1:57:37] I would even say 6.

[1:57:38] But did you get it with the range?

[1:57:40] I don't know.

[1:57:40] We're happy with 5,000 Kelvin LED modules.

[1:57:46] We've put them in there.

[1:57:47] And again, it's not being something that range between 4,000 and 5.

[1:57:52] I mean, she said there is just, it can be adjust between those two ranges.

[1:58:00] That way.

[1:58:01] I'm not sure if I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not an expert, I just had a stall.

[1:58:05] So I do know that you can put them on like a dimmer and that's like a stuff.

[1:58:11] So we could, I mean, we could look into what I said.

[1:58:14] When I don't like it to be, I don't want to see anybody up with Jordan.

[1:58:18] What I would like to see is that if we improve something, staff go out and look at it

[1:58:26] and give the final approval and a lot of that.

[1:58:28] But I have to do a need. Yes, so because you want us to do that because you want us to do it with the death and

[1:58:39] So you wouldn't be willing to approve something so basically I got it to we were able to damn this

[1:58:47] If it be something they would be then else

[1:58:50] I could probably I mean, I just need to figure out before I say oh, yeah, I want to read to something and they tell me

[1:58:57] you can't do that. You want to defer. I really don't want to do it. I don't see a problem with that.

[1:59:07] I just look at somehow I need to protect myself because we do if I'm going to give you a rake.

[1:59:12] So, I'm just trying to find a solution to it. Sure.

[1:59:16] Okay.

[1:59:17] Um, I have some concerns about it. I first want to understand the box. Did you say the five star

[1:59:23] like sign this coming off the building? Correct.

[1:59:26] Okay. That's an improvement. Thank you. Okay. This is a gateway into all sounds.

[1:59:33] For which we talked about gateway being free from five south roads from sorry I think it's

[1:59:39] no referrals to you earlier this evening. I'm going to surprise right out in south of which

[1:59:43] a gateway. But anyway, this is a truly gateway into Alexandria coming from the airport down the far

[1:59:52] and that past start has driven me crazy for four years.

[1:59:57] So I'm really glad it's coming down, but I am.

[2:00:00] It's certain about the lining of it. When I go up and down to extreme,

[2:00:08] now this is outside of the

[2:00:09] historic district, but the motley pool and another business called five guys, they've got

[2:00:15] able to eliminate its signs, and they've done it. I can't tell you if it's so tailor or what the

[2:00:29] That's how much an old house.

[2:00:32] I'm hesitant here to go with what you're asking for because I think this is an opportunity

[2:00:40] to dive down, what has been less than attractive for a very long time.

[2:00:49] But I believe that if you dial down the kelvin's and make it a yellow light, it's not going

[2:00:56] to look as nice as it was a softer white light around the letters.

[2:01:01] Well, then that's another comment that you made and I do want to talk with you about it, I'm not trying to say, you know, my world is a lot, but we have a CBS sign on King Street, that is as we talked about small and commercial and it's diminishing compared to this.

[2:01:17] But that's the S sign is supposed to be below the FND's outcomes, right?

[2:01:22] I don't even think I think that's available as well.

[2:01:25] Well, I don't know, but it is supposed to be.

[2:01:28] And we can be able to put around the ground on that and sitting here in the unit.

[2:01:33] It's supposed to be, you know, you're supposed to grab a check.

[2:01:37] If there's any questions about it and whether it's been installed or what will be approved.

[2:01:42] But that's like,

[2:01:43] It is a lot of excitement, but the love is the same.

[2:01:46] It was the light.

[2:01:47] It was the face light up to the letters light up ahead.

[2:01:50] But they say, it is halo.

[2:01:51] I don't know what it is.

[2:01:53] It's white.

[2:01:55] It's not yellow.

[2:01:57] And not, I can't speak for them, but I want to say that they,

[2:02:01] because I use starting point.

[2:02:04] Yeah, I don't think you can't change.

[2:02:08] It is what it is.

[2:02:08] 3,500, 3,000 kelvin. It's yellow. I mean, I wish you could have made you, you know, they have a chart,

[2:02:17] it kind of shows you, you know, because you look like bulbs and tell us what it is. And you can see,

[2:02:22] you know, it goes up from from yellow and then a little bit less yellow and then just a hint of yellow

[2:02:27] and then yeah, that's so. So there you go. I mean, you see things stuff like that. So that's why

[2:02:32] I can't tell you what they put in there, and they're something. Yeah, you know, I speak to a

[2:02:36] we wanted to, but we wanted to turn it into the middle, which is not, which is the first, where it's

[2:02:42] primarily white versus having a yellow key. I don't think that's, I mean, again, this is also,

[2:02:50] you know, you're speaking of signs, which I agree with, huge aims that, um, King Street, pedestrian level,

[2:02:58] that's a little bit different. But this is an office building, these signs as you can see are six, seven

[2:03:03] stories up in the near. They're very eye catching coming down so hard but I will say that

[2:03:08] are you planning to in this picture that I'm at which may not be added but the letters

[2:03:14] look more of a darker blood of me are where is the light going to be? It's going to be

[2:03:19] glowing behind the blood? Yes, yes, so I've been doing it.

[2:03:27] Oh okay, well it looks.

[2:03:29] It was just to remember for our presentation.

[2:03:32] Yes, it was.

[2:03:34] We focus here.

[2:03:36] Yes, we focus here.

[2:03:37] Yes, we focus here.

[2:03:37] Sorry.

[2:03:38] I don't think the whole job.

[2:03:42] Okay.

[2:03:46] Okay.

[2:03:46] That's done.

[2:03:47] Would you probably like that?

[2:03:49] It was higher than 5,000.

[2:03:52] That's really great.

[2:03:54] So what did they say to work with the staff to something between what?

[2:04:00] like me, she's gonna love this.

[2:04:02] Oh, no, she's gonna love this.

[2:04:03] I'm sorry.

[2:04:04] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[2:04:05] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[2:04:07] Maybe something between 3,000 to 45,000.

[2:04:13] Yeah, 3,000 to 4,000 might be good.

[2:04:16] 4,000 is still gonna be yellow.

[2:04:19] 4,500 still has a hint of yellow.

[2:04:22] I really wish you would let us try 5,000 with, you know, I guess the caveat, I mean,

[2:04:29] I'm pretty sure you guys don't have a problem with it,

[2:04:32] but I'm certainly, if you could put in there,

[2:04:35] but you know, you have, I don't know how you work in.

[2:04:37] I mean, say, you know, whatever you see,

[2:04:40] yes, you know, the same type of wording

[2:04:42] or something along those lines.

[2:04:44] That ain't forgotten to work with.

[2:04:47] Right, that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

[2:04:49] That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

[2:04:50] Yeah, I was in the morning,

[2:04:53] I think in addition, that I think that it be,

[2:04:56] But don't move.

[2:04:58] Yeah, don't.

[2:04:58] The standard of fashion.

[2:05:00] Okay. And this is a long site. And from the left of the most correct. And if it is, the other thing is back to comes out that it cannot be justice, then an applicant could return to the board to modify approval. So if that wasn't basic. If you say you go back and get pointed out that a kid can't get them, you can go back to this board, it's not sponsored.

[2:05:21] that even I went back and looked at can't be

[2:05:22] able to like to modify the removal.

[2:05:24] And then that's fun.

[2:05:26] I'm pretty sure can be dimmed.

[2:05:29] I don't want to say 100% I'm positive.

[2:05:31] But certainly we didn't really get that.

[2:05:33] It's what I'm going to do.

[2:05:35] Yeah, it's down.

[2:05:36] It could certainly do something like that.

[2:05:37] And we would, yeah, I think that's the reason

[2:05:40] to come from us.

[2:05:44] What do you think?

[2:05:45] It's a good competition of it comes three thousand.

[2:05:51] But on four thousand five thousand.

[2:05:53] Right, right,

[2:05:57] right.

[2:05:57] Right, right.

[2:05:58] Realizing that if you need to be with them,

[2:06:00] forget it to put them one more.

[2:06:02] Got it.

[2:06:02] Well it's okay.

[2:06:02] At any point.

[2:06:05] Right.

[2:06:06] Right.

[2:06:09] Right.

[2:06:11] So yeah, that's fine.

[2:06:14] We'll be happy to do that.

[2:06:16] Right.

[2:06:16] At the time we didn't install it, I probably didn't dare to win or sort of be dark, except something.

[2:06:22] Oh, okay. Okay.

[2:06:24] Oh, are you okay?

[2:06:24] We need to check it out.

[2:06:26] We need to check it out.

[2:06:30] Thank you.

[2:06:31] All right.

[2:06:33] All right.

[2:06:33] So I'll make your portion to for the applicant to work with the staff on a minimal payload sign.

[2:06:41] It's been 3,000 to 5,000, okay, or a step to check the basis after installation to verify if it needs to be, or what level it needs to be.

[2:06:52] Yes, we will do a little bit of a problem.

[2:06:56] We have a second.

[2:06:59] Second.

[2:07:03] Excuse me.

[2:07:05] There's a second.

[2:07:06] I have a question right here.

[2:07:08] There was your question down there.

[2:07:10] Sorry, sorry.

[2:07:11] For a second.

[2:07:15] What if you did you just second yourself?

[2:07:17] No, you know, I didn't make the motion.

[2:07:19] No, I didn't make the motion.

[2:07:21] It was a long time ago.

[2:07:25] So, all in favour?

[2:07:28] Hi.

[2:07:30] Hi.

[2:07:32] Anya, boys?

[2:07:34] Anya.

[2:07:35] Oh.

[2:07:42] You're going to be very happy when it's dying.

[2:07:45] Well, thank you so much.

[2:07:45] This will be an improvement to have the hate low limit

[2:07:48] with the internal immunization.

[2:07:50] Yes.

[2:07:50] Oh, yes.

[2:07:51] And also, thank you.

[2:07:53] You were one of the first cases and one of the last.

[2:07:55] Yes.

[2:07:56] Thank you.

[2:07:57] Thank you.

[2:07:58] Thank you.

[2:08:01] Thanks.

[2:08:02] I appreciate it.

[2:08:03] Thank you.

[2:08:03] All right.

[2:08:04] So you're like this.

[2:08:06] So what do I do?

[2:08:08] So I mean, it's very civil-wants for the skits and stars.

[2:08:11] So we can contact you guys.

[2:08:14] Okay.

[2:08:16] Thank you.

[2:08:19] Thanks a ton of the CDS.

[2:08:20] The generation or the,

[2:08:24] Do you want to see the veterinary clinic around the corner?

[2:08:28] Right.

[2:08:29] So.

[2:08:30] I know we had the same approval methods.

[2:08:33] I guess my question is.

[2:08:36] What's stopping them from which I think might have happened, you know, we look at it, it looks great through this boom.

[2:08:43] It was a walk away.

[2:08:44] I think that's what you back up.

[2:08:46] I mean, I think that, I mean, we'll go there, I mean, since you have supporters asked me to check on it,

[2:08:52] I will go back and check the approval of the climate for that and see if it was personally available and check to see what we're on.

[2:08:57] I think that we will come check them.

[2:08:58] I think that we will come check them.

[2:08:59] I think that we will come check them.

[2:09:00] I think that we will come check them.

[2:09:05] And that's for which we, where's the cost of pigeons?

[2:09:10] What?

[2:09:11] It's getting to be a long night.

[2:09:14] I'll read the next one.

[2:09:16] I'll read the next one.

[2:09:18] Okay.

[2:09:18] Sure, no, no, no.

[2:09:20] You're seeing me.

[2:09:21] No, no, no, no.

[2:09:23] Okay.

[2:09:24] We have two together to consider.

[2:09:27] It's also our last.

[2:09:28] So BAR 2026.

[2:09:31] There are three of those six,

[2:09:32] which is the Facebook partial demolition and encapsulation at one of the VV3s as well as VAR 2026307,

[2:09:44] which is the alterations at the same address.

[2:09:47] The applicant is Keith Lawson Moore represented by a current company of architect.

[2:09:54] The proposal before it was to demolish 76 square feet of existing slave roofing both on.

[2:10:02] As well as to add a group of terrorists, a new steering closure and a shed dormer to the south facing

[2:10:09] man's apartment. On page 2 of the report, you'll see that the site context was project and part of

[2:10:29] I'm sorry, page 4 and the report shows those were the dormer and her interest, page 5, get there and there we are.

[2:10:39] Draw those attention to design standards that include a style of scale of the dormers should be appropriate to your potential style.

[2:10:47] New dormers should be centered on or between the existing windows below new dormers should match existing dormers in style and proportion and

[2:10:57] The opposite side is such a five or two men can be used on all sides and the flag of that is on the smooth finish and the end is musical.

[2:11:06] So I would like to ask the HV staff and recommendation.

[2:11:11] Thank you.

[2:11:12] I'm so glad we were so glad we were fine.

[2:11:16] Hello.

[2:11:17] My name is Karen Fauci.

[2:11:19] I'm a four-centre South Lee street.

[2:11:21] I'm here representing my client, Lawson Moore.

[2:11:24] He gives his huge apologies.

[2:11:26] see how the business meeting that came up or dinner that came up this evening so you could not

[2:11:30] join us. So we had a response sitting by myself.

[2:11:34] Larson bought the phone earlier this screen. In the staff report, there was a picture of one of

[2:11:39] five Queen, which is a project I did, I guess, about three or four years ago. He fell in love with their

[2:11:44] group that said, hey, can you do me a roof deck just like that one? I said, let me see that. So

[2:11:51] proposing the cable railing around the perimeter and then a stair tower and then a stair

[2:11:56] closure that's similar to what we did the next door at the neighbors so that's how we

[2:12:01] knew we can do it and a small outdoor kitchen. Even with that I answer any questions. I mean we

[2:12:06] need to step forward and love them to step forward too. By the way, Peter, thank you. I need questions

[2:12:14] some of the board members. I think questions about the talk.

[2:12:21] So we'll move through that. Any comment?

[2:12:29] Yes, thank you. I do have a question. Is this a house where we're talking about?

[2:12:34] It is. I did the game window in the shed door on the back. I guess 2016.

[2:12:39] Yeah, and we talked a lot about the window proportions to one another, right?

[2:12:44] I don't know.

[2:12:45] It's possible for different.

[2:12:47] I've worked on Austin's door.

[2:12:49] Okay.

[2:12:49] But you can have some either side too, so.

[2:12:52] Yeah, no.

[2:12:54] Okay.

[2:12:54] Absolutely.

[2:12:55] I'm going to talk to you.

[2:12:56] Yeah.

[2:12:57] We're all right.

[2:12:58] All right.

[2:12:59] So that's a funny question about.

[2:13:02] You are, I think, a donor.

[2:13:04] So the donor on the front.

[2:13:06] Elevation is what we're adding.

[2:13:07] So, currently, it's just a full man's service with no dormer, and so he's adding his

[2:13:13] three new menus up at the top. It's because if you go up in that third floor, it's like

[2:13:19] it's right, slowly, so he's trying to get that. He's got the sport footage, but you can't really

[2:13:24] comment on it. I know I make sense if I just was wondering that on the roof of this,

[2:13:29] are you using this vase that you're taking out to, or no, it's a mental,

[2:13:33] It's a very slow, slow, slow, slow, slow.

[2:13:38] Yeah, a slightly require a speed for slow on the dormant.

[2:13:43] So, we're keeping the sleep around the dormant,

[2:13:46] but the actual roof of the dormant is metal.

[2:13:50] It's good.

[2:13:51] Yeah, it's very good.

[2:13:54] And in the same slow, this is the dormant on the back side that we did in 2016.

[2:13:58] Okay, I'm also like there are a few other questions more or what I can do.

[2:14:05] Okay.

[2:14:06] I'll make a motion to approve for staff accommodation.

[2:14:11] Second.

[2:14:13] Thank you.

[2:14:14] Do we need to give this a roll call?

[2:14:16] Yes.

[2:14:17] We need to give this a roll call.

[2:14:19] Yes.

[2:14:19] We need to make a motion and this is a roll call.

[2:14:25] Okay.

[2:14:26] All right, and roll call is Mr. Messer.

[2:14:32] Mr.

[2:14:35] Messer.

[2:14:41] All right, thank you.

[2:14:44] All right.

[2:14:45] It's gorgeous.

[2:14:47] Thank you very much.

[2:14:48] Thank you.

[2:14:50] Thank you.

[2:14:52] Bye-bye.

[2:14:53] Bye-bye.

[2:14:56] Bye-bye.

[2:14:58] Bye-bye.

[2:14:58] Thank you.

[2:15:06] All right. All right. All right. Thank you. The PMR.

[2:15:11] Please give us feedback on what you like and don't like about our staff forum table and all the great things that this question we're doing tonight.

[2:15:21] So we heard that.

[2:15:23] And that heard that.

[2:15:24] They're not.

[2:15:26] I think I was going to be helping me help more 25 minutes a little bit.

[2:15:29] I'm going to be a little bit.

[2:15:30] Just a little bit.

[2:15:32] Just a little bit.

[2:15:34] Yeah.

[2:15:34] It's good.

[2:15:35] It's good.

[2:15:36] I think that.

[2:15:39] Well.

[2:15:41] In fact, I'm going to need to.

[2:15:43] I'm going to need to.

[2:15:44] I think that to be able to go on by the end of a day.

[2:15:48] We will go on.

[2:15:49] I'm going to.

[2:15:50] Yeah, it's fun.

[2:15:51] Yeah, the goal is they are not going to be more than 90 seconds.

[2:15:55] Which is also why I'm not giving you every single standard that you're putting in on staff.

[2:16:00] The staff report because the goal is, you guys are reading this, the staff report to report tonight.

[2:16:06] So it's the intent is we are one of the few boards to not do this.

[2:16:11] So it's going to try and better align with the other boards and commissions.

[2:16:14] as well as just highlight the things from the stack of work.

[2:16:21] So if in any way the whole drive clip session,

[2:16:24] yeah, whatever the need may be.

[2:16:29] Okay, thank you.

[2:16:33] Thank you.

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