[0:01] Call the meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge. I pledge algiance to the

[0:07] flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one

[0:13] nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[0:18] » Roll call. >> Watson.

[0:21] » Yes. >> Okay. You have before you the minutes of

[0:26] the uh last meeting, August 25th.

[0:33] Are there any further uh corrections or additions to the minutes as presented?

[0:44] » Sorry. >> I'm going to make a motion to approve

[0:46] the August 25th uh regular meeting minutes as presented.

[0:50] » Second. >> Lynch,

[0:52] » yes. >> Watson,

[0:53] » yes. >> Jurg,

[0:54] » yes. >> 9126.

[0:57] » Next item. uh reading of the bills and financial

[1:04] uh reports. >> You have a payment listing in front of

[1:08] you. Um and also you have um fund summary. Our year-to- date

[1:15] revenue is $1,200,468.95

[1:20] and our year-to- date expenditures are $895,9129.

[1:25] We have not gotten the second half

[1:31] » property taxes yet. >> Yeah.

[1:34] » Still hanging on for that investment income.

[1:37] » Yeah. And uh if you you probably will notice that there are

[1:43] um a couple of like you uh opery payments. That's because when I was

[1:51] having computer issues last meeting, did not realize that payments did not go

[1:57] through. So I sent everything twice when I I mean I sent the correct amounts but

[2:03] I had to do August or July and August. So that's why that reflects that.

[2:13] » Okay.

[2:16] Any other questions or comments on the uh bills and financial reports?

[2:21] » No. And and Chris, you would normally mention the largest one obviously is our

[2:25] quarterly fire payment there, >> which was less

[2:28] » just under [clears throat] $60,000, >> but less than the first quarter.

[2:33] » Yeah. >> When we're lucky.

[2:37] » Okay, let's see. >> Still almost a quarter million a year,

[2:41] » I think. What? >> And a brand new fire. I'm sorry.

[2:46] » Well, it's and it's got the I think it's 176,000

[2:50] minimum I believe by the contract cuz you know it's hard to tell since it's

[2:54] based on usage and I know that the city wanted a minimum amount in there in the

[2:59] event we don't have a lot of calls but that hasn't been the case.

[3:04] Okay. Any other discussion on the bills and

[3:08] financial reports? If there's no other discussion, then I would make a motion

[3:14] to approve the financial reports and payment of items on the uh payment

[3:18] listing uh with reservations.

[3:24] » Second. >> Motion been made and seconded. Any

[3:28] further discussion? If no further discussion, roll call.

[3:32] » Yurig, >> yes.

[3:33] » Watson, Lynch, >> yes. The only other thing that I have is

[3:37] I handed out your the new credit cards that came. If you would please open them

[3:43] and activate them. Not tonight, but I mean uh then if you keep the card and

[3:48] return all the paperwork to me, I could put it in a file.

[3:52] » Okay. And you want the old cards just cut up.

[3:54] » I would just Yeah. destroy them. >> Okay.

[4:00] Uh >> that's all I have.

[4:02] » No. At this time, uh, we welcome the audience. I see we have two people in

[4:07] the audience. Uh, we invite audience concerns. If they have any concerns,

[4:13] please step to the please step to the microphone, state your name and address

[4:18] and uh, what your concern is. >> Want to walk. You're more than welcome.

[4:21] We want us to hand you the mic. >> Hopefully, you don't have to get up.

[4:28] » Evening folks.

[4:32] Uh, my name is Chris Veru. Um, president of the township almost 30 years.

[4:39] Um, this is my neighbor Scott McNab. And we are here on behalf of not only

[4:46] our neighbors, uh, our elderly that live close to this situation, the children

[4:51] that are in the neighborhood, uh, our pets. We kind of at wit's end

[4:57] with this. It's been going on some time. Uh, as you may or may not know, there

[5:03] was a residential fire at 48096 Rice Road. Uh, gentleman's name is Dave. I

[5:09] don't know his last name. >> Loer.

[5:14] Um, since then, uh, that was July 3rd. Since then, he has resided on the

[5:20] property in a tent. Um he beyond the civil matter of veiled

[5:26] threats to myself and other neighbors, the uh protection orders that we have

[5:31] against him through the sheriff's department. He's currently in jail now

[5:35] set to get out. Um, what kind of got me activated was that he uh

[5:43] he made some threats on a recorded line through the Luring County uh jail that

[5:47] he was going to give my neighbor and I uh what they call a Colombian neck

[5:52] necktie, something that they were coming for us. Folks, I have said absolutely

[5:57] nothing to this man in months. Um, beyond the civil matter, I know you

[6:03] folks don't have any control over that. Uh it's he's he's living it behind a

[6:08] burned out structure. He is defecating and urinating on the

[6:13] property in the open. He is standing in his backyard screaming obscenities for

[6:19] hours on end at the top of his lungs. If we were in the city limits,

[6:26] this wouldn't be going on for two months.

[6:29] Uh I have concerns for the children in the neighborhood, for my pets. I'm

[6:34] afraid to leave them outside. They're on electric fence and they're free.

[6:39] What can we do to to keep him away from our families,

[6:45] our residences? What's he going to get drunk one night and throw a flaming

[6:49] brick through my window? Burn my house down, burn Dallas's house

[6:54] down. Uh, he steals water from our elderly neighbors.

[7:00] He has no water. He has no septic. He has no electricity

[7:05] and yet he's still there. It's a real problem and we have uh some

[7:10] ve very valid concerns for our own safety. Uh there was other folks that

[7:15] were going to meet us here this evening, but they had engagements that came up.

[7:19] So I I actually planned on having half a dozen people or so with me. Um it's

[7:25] becoming a problem. And again, if we were in the city of Ammerst,

[7:30] this would have been handled quite a bit quite a while ago. I mean, we've been

[7:34] dealing with this for 2 months, and his mental stability is landsliding.

[7:40] I know you folks can't handle the civil end of it again, but uh what what can we

[7:45] do? [clears throat] What can we do? >> Ruin. I The first item would be keep in

[7:51] touch with the sheriff's department. We have

[7:53] » if he's >> they don't seem like they really want

[7:56] they don't seem like they really want to do much.

[8:02] » Making a disruption if he's being disorderly. I would think that

[8:08] uh there some recourse there with them. He's in jail right now, but he's he

[8:14] actually got uh >> he got violated on his uh on a

[8:18] protection order from one of our other neighbors, and he's uh he was actually

[8:23] talking to one of the foreigners on a recorded line. He's supposed to get out

[8:28] Wednesday. He said he's going to bring all his homeless friends that he made in

[8:32] jail back to the property and make a little compound for himself.

[8:36] [laughter] >> I couldn't make this stuff up. Yeah,

[8:40] Chris, can I ask for Mr. McNab? Um, because I just want to make sure I

[8:45] understand the relationships here if there is one.

[8:48] » Are you related to Karen? >> Yes.

[8:51] » Okay. Because we sent the response to Karen, which I was hoping since we hear

[8:55] from multiple people over there that, you know, we could keep the same

[8:59] response. I don't know. Chris, you're saying he's getting out of jail. Do you

[9:03] know that for certain? it. That's uh I again I've heard this all third hand,

[9:08] but it's >> the resource is pretty solid.

[9:12] » I I heard yesterday he had a reduced bail to like $300 and he's getting out

[9:17] tomorrow. >> That's also what I heard.

[9:19] » Bail was set at $7,500. >> Yes, sir.

[9:22] » And his jury trial is scheduled for February 4th of 2027.

[9:27] » And we've had the other groups here before Chris. And that's really I just

[9:32] say in the city of Amherst maybe it would be handled. Um there they

[9:38] would have the police just as we have the sheriff but we've had the health

[9:42] department out there. >> Okay.

[9:44] » See if there's anything we could do. And as far as the health department's

[9:47] position is it's America. It's his property. We can't they can't force them

[9:52] off. We've had our zoning inspector look at the zoning. I know that um I'm not

[9:59] going to say which officials talked with his power of attorney that has financial

[10:04] power of attorney for him to see if there's any way they can get this

[10:08] addressed. Um so I can tell you behind the scenes people are trying to do it

[10:13] but we're limited in what we can do. >> The best thing is

[10:18] line with Mr. Forner. >> The sheriff keeps those records and

[10:22] those are public records. I assume that the sheriff has taken that and I can't

[10:28] see. >> I'm assuming that's why he's in jail now

[10:30] because of >> Oh, that was the recour.

[10:33] » Well, he's in jail now. That was before >> he's been in jail recorded back in May.

[10:39] He was in in in jail also for he had confrontation. Frank lives next to him

[10:47] and the neighbor next to them. They had a confrontation and they argued. He went

[10:54] back to his house, got a gun, went back over there, threatened them, shot,

[11:01] discharged his weapon at their feet. That's when the sheriff was called and

[11:04] he was put in jail last May. >> Okay. But his current term, he hasn't

[11:09] made a new threat. >> Just on on a recorded line from the jail

[11:14] just this past week against myself and another res. Yes, sir.

[11:19] » Have you contacted the sheriff about that?

[11:21] » Yes. and they and they've listened to the recording and they agree. But again,

[11:25] they're >> they're not

[11:26] » Well, then why it's a it's a third party threat that they're not he didn't

[11:32] specifically say to tell me that it was going to

[11:37] happen or specifically to tell Dallas that it was going to happen. But you can

[11:42] ride, you can drive by his house. Our names are spray painted on his house.

[11:47] Arsson. I haven't talked to this man since May.

[11:53] I let him do his thing. I stayed out of it. But he is kind of This has really

[11:58] stirred me a bit now. >> Yeah. And there was a forensic

[12:01] investigation by the um mortgage insurance company

[12:06] already and they've completed their investigation as has Ammer's fire

[12:11] because of those what was put there whether it was someone else or um Mr.

[12:18] Leisure Lure. I'm not sure how he pronounces it. Um,

[12:22] » we call him hippie daddy if that had been done, but they have for years.

[12:26] » Yeah, it was indeterminant if there was any type of arson.

[12:30] » Well, I it's it's all accusations from him. He writes it big on his house. He

[12:35] had a sign out front said FC Veru. I haven't seen I haven't talked to this

[12:41] guy in months and months and months and he's poking at me and another one of the

[12:45] residents specifically. I've blown it off until the now this on

[12:50] a recorded line hearing this and the sheriff has confirmed that it's it's

[12:54] there and that it just you know from here to my vehicle from my house he

[13:00] could walk across his backyard. >> My dogs are out you know what he come

[13:05] throw poison my dogs. Well, I hear your frustration, but I respect that.

[13:09] » What do you want us to do that's within our authority? Because short of

[13:13] contacting the sheriff again, which we've already done. We've contacted the

[13:17] health department. We've worked with our fire prevention officer. There's been

[13:21] discussions with the insurance company that ensures the mortgage itself because

[13:27] obviously they prefer that this and you you're aware he's in a rear. So, most

[13:33] likely he's going to get foreclosed on. >> Yes, sir. um at that point.

[13:37] » What I understand the foreclosure is in process.

[13:40] » Well, it's yeah, it's not to the point of actual sheriff sale, but if it gets

[13:45] to that point is then he can be evicted, >> but you know, that's not you know, these

[13:52] things take so long. I mean, we've seen these things languish before. Um,

[14:00] we've had some other individuals like this in our township in my time as

[14:06] trustee, too. They It does tend to take care of itself. It just takes a while.

[14:10] Typically, there's some mental and behavioral issues with them. And in

[14:15] addition to some of the other behaviors they do that make it even worse.

[14:19] » Sure. Uh >> we've we've lived with him there for

[14:23] years and he's always just been cool old hippie Dave, you know, and recently the

[14:30] last two years, his mental health has >> gone downhill very quickly. And now it's

[14:37] to the point where it's concerning. >> Yeah. And we've got a

[14:41] » strong mental health network here in Lraine County, but you can't force them

[14:45] unless >> Yes, sir.

[14:47] » It gets ordered by the courts. And so that's where they won't intercede at

[14:52] this point either. >> Right. And again, I and I understand

[14:55] that's more on a civil matter that's out of your hands.

[14:59] » Is there anything that we can do in the meantime, a petition? Is there something

[15:03] that we can do on our end to [clears throat] try to

[15:05] » contacting the sheriff? That's that's >> we have been in contact with the

[15:10] sheriff. >> I called again today.

[15:12] » Yeah. Dallas made another report yesterday after he confirmed that, you

[15:17] know, that recording was in there that he's going to give us Brazilian neck

[15:20] ties. >> Yeah. But

[15:23] » I understand he's a little that recording to the judge that

[15:28] » Yes. Uh actually, Mr. Townsen spoke with the prosecutor today.

[15:34] » Okay. Well, good. >> So, that's in the matters, too. We're

[15:36] just we're here just speaking our peace on it so it's known that

[15:42] » these things are happening and I understand that you know about it. I'm

[15:45] just just here talking again. You know that

[15:49] we just uh I >> also afraid it's going to escalate into

[15:55] some >> right said it before. We'll say it

[15:58] again. You know we're a creature under state law. We are governed by state law

[16:01] primarily. >> Uh we're in a township. It's a very

[16:06] layered situation. There are things on the township, the townships do, things

[16:11] the county does, and things that the state does that are that are in their

[16:15] purview. Whereas cities don't don't have that layers. They they can do

[16:21] everything within themselves, but not us. We we're relying on either the

[16:25] state, the county, or the or whatever the state has allowed townships to do.

[16:30] So, we're really limited as far as police. We we could have a police

[16:34] department, but we don't. Uh but even if we did, we're stuck enforcing state law.

[16:41] And and same thing that the sheriff does. If we need the police, if there's

[16:44] a dangerous situation, we have to call the sheriff,

[16:48] » right? >> Call the sheriff and they have to come

[16:50] out. Uh >> so,

[16:52] » uh I guess what you folks are >> between a rock and a hard, please.

[16:56] » Sure. We are too. And >> absolutely. Uh you know, it's good to

[16:59] know it's there. >> Uh

[17:03] We're collecting information on this end. Uh you can see certain things like

[17:09] for example going through the mortgage company uh you know that may be a great

[17:14] help. They may have more authority that and may be able to do things quicker and

[17:18] more efficient than we could as uh as a government entity. I mean there there's

[17:24] questions on that property once it's settled. Uh you know is that house

[17:28] repairable? Does it need to be torn down? Then it needs to be torn down.

[17:31] items like that. But all that takes time and all that's a big process. You just

[17:35] don't >> going on to a piece of property and and

[17:39] do something. >> Sure.

[17:40] » About the only thing that we do have some authority is is the most grass. We

[17:45] can go more grass, but you start taking things off.

[17:48] » I think the mortgage company's taking care of that, too.

[17:51] » Yesterday. >> Yeah.

[17:53] » Well, I didn't know the question. I wish I could help you more in that.

[17:56] » I've been in front of the health department. I've been in front of the

[17:58] sheriff's department. I've been in now. >> You've gone to the township places. We

[18:02] » have I've you know >> I kind of understand why I It's not

[18:08] funny if somebody's >> No, he and and please forgive my my

[18:14] English, but he is standing in his backyard uh screaming obscenities. I

[18:20] can't even say the words that he says. I don't want to say it in front of this

[18:23] government. >> Yeah.

[18:25] » It's And my children are out there running. My neighbors children are out

[18:28] there. You know, >> he's also he's also been running around

[18:33] with nothing on. And I mean,

[18:39] » the sheriff [clears throat] shows up, >> one of the guys, they like went over

[18:41] there and asked him, "What are you doing running around here like this?" Well,

[18:44] this way I feel good this way. It's my property. I can do what I want. No,

[18:48] » I'm not. No, he could be arrested for that. Well, yeah, but I mean

[18:53] » it just seems like >> he's been arrested twice now and now now

[18:56] his his bail was set at $7,500. Now it's down to 300. No wonder guys getting out.

[19:03] » You know, it's it's and again on civil matter, I know you folks have no control

[19:08] over that. I guess that's where our concern comes from now in respective to

[19:14] the elderly that's around us. You know, uh there's a lady that lives across the

[19:18] street from him that he goes and steals water from and we've tried to keep him

[19:22] off her property, harassing her on an outdoor.

[19:26] » Yeah. Taking buckets of water. >> He steals from

[19:29] » Yeah. Last time I talked to him was actually I I saw my uh deck chairs out

[19:34] on his garage sale and I asked him if they were my chairs.

[19:38] He said, "No, I got those from Walmart or something." Said, "Dave, they're

[19:41] covered in moss, man. They sell those at Walmart. moss covered chairs. He Well,

[19:46] just take them if you want them. They're mine, buddy.

[19:50] » I'll tell you guys, I I've had a lot of lengthy conversations on this with other

[19:54] neighbors over there on Rice Road, um with the Ammerst fire inspector, with

[20:00] the Ammerst police for an issue when he was going through the city of Ammerst.

[20:04] Uh I went directly to a contact at the sheriff's department and he was doing,

[20:08] you know, those investigations and then led to his arrest. But yeah, at this

[20:14] point, like I feel your pain over there, but it's like I don't really I don't

[20:20] know what Yeah, with the the health department, the inspector,

[20:23] » like if there was anything else we could do, people we could call, we would, but

[20:28] um I feel like it's good that you're here and bringing it to light, but I'm

[20:32] trying to trying to keep the ball rolling.

[20:35] » We can do as a township to do that. It really is in the sheriff's hands,

[20:39] » right? You know, we all the guys, we all go to work and he's there with our wives

[20:44] and girlfriends >> hanging out and the children. You know,

[20:47] » he can do anything while we're gone. >> And again, the civil matter, I think, is

[20:52] more important to us trying to protect our families and our homes

[20:56] than anything. I don't know. Well, I appreciate your time

[21:00] » and I definitely wanted to bring this to your attention. I know that you've been

[21:04] aware of it. >> Uh it's just an ongoing saga with us

[21:07] over there. crazy. [laughter] If

[21:10] » something comes up, we find something we can do or whatnot, you know, we'll do

[21:14] it. >> At the mortgage company,

[21:18] » reiterate back to the sheriff that we were here tonight

[21:22] again. >> Yeah, we'll just keep keep poking away.

[21:26] I don't know. Again, thank you.

[21:29] » Thank you. >> Thank you for coming, Chris.

[21:32] » Okay. Nothing else under audience concerns. Uh we have

[21:38] correspondence and announcements. I have one piece of correspondence that I would

[21:42] bring forward. I hand it out. We have a notice from uh a copy of a notice from

[21:48] the Lorraine County Board of Commissioners uh to Attorney John uh D.

[21:53] Clark agent. Lorraine County Board of Commissioners adopted resolution 26-472

[22:00] on August 25th, 2026 denying a decision on an expedited two annexation of

[22:07] approximately 65.2559 acres from Ammerst Township to the city

[22:12] of Alli, Ohio. Attorney John Clark is agent for Petitioner Builders and

[22:17] Developers Incorporated. Rich Baron, president. This is being forwarded for

[22:22] your information and files. Terreselle Upton clerk. Okay. The commissioners did

[22:27] deny the annexation on the 25th of August. The only thing I could add is

[22:34] they're still and they may do it uh able to uh seek uh a court order of mandemus

[22:43] compelling the commissioners to act upon this

[22:47] uh compelling them to approve it. But uh

[22:53] as of now it was turned down and I'm very thankful for that at this time. Do

[23:00] you have anything else to add, Neil? >> Yes, David. We will need an executive

[23:04] session on the ongoing potential litigation on this matter. And just so

[23:10] you're aware, this document, the official document from the county is

[23:15] what legal counsel for the annexation applicant was waiting for before they

[23:20] could actually file a rid of mandamus. But we'll have discussion executive

[23:25] session on this. >> So we will need an executive session,

[23:29] » right? For this there will also be personnel.

[23:35] » For the exe executive session, >> yes, the executive session will be two

[23:38] items. The one will be on the potential litigation with the annexation. The

[23:44] personnel is going to be with some changes that are ongoing with the

[23:49] healthc care uh cost that uh may necessitate the township doing something

[23:56] sooner since people will have to be signing up for these new health care

[24:00] programs in uh the October time frame. And so I just want to discuss what the

[24:06] potential changes are that we could do here in the township and planning for

[24:11] that. We can't wait till our organizational meeting because it'll be

[24:16] after the required sign up date. Okay. Personnel

[24:23] and Okay.

[24:27] Okay. Well, we'll have to go into that then. Okay.

[24:32] uh correspondence. Uh

[24:38] » I'll do it on the reports, David. Thank you.

[24:40] » You have anything further, Neil? >> I do, but I'll handle those on the

[24:44] reports. >> Okay. Next, uh it uh we will move on to

[24:48] reports. Ambulance service. Do we have anything new under ambulance?

[24:53] » No, we don't have a date yet for the next meeting.

[24:57] » You know, David, you ask this every meeting.

[24:59] » We never have a date. We haven't had a date since I don't know.

[25:02] » I'll tell you what, you call the chairperson, David. I'm not the

[25:05] chairperson who sets the date. >> I've given the dates. I'm available.

[25:10] » But stop stop playing games. This isn't a place to play games. This is serious

[25:14] business. >> And what is it? I just bring it up every

[25:16] meeting, Neil. Yes or no? We just don't have it.

[25:19] » David, when's the next consortium meeting?

[25:21] » Next. >> I attended for you for two years. You're

[25:24] our representative. And for two years, I attended the meetings cuz you missed

[25:28] them all. Now, are we going to keep playing these games? When's the next

[25:32] consortium meeting, David? And will you be there?

[25:35] » Next consortium meeting is in October. >> Will you be there?

[25:39] » Yes, I'll be there. >> Okay. Because it is a fact that I

[25:42] attended in your place for 2 years. I never once asked you when the meeting

[25:49] was. Are you going to ask again next month?

[25:52] » No, I just bring it forth in the thing. Fire Prevention Officer Chris Nihard,

[26:01] Zoning Inspector, Ryan Valentin.

[26:06] » Yeah, we have a uh BZA meeting set for September 10th at 6 p.m. for an area

[26:12] variance hearing. Um year to date, we're at 179 total permits with 92 of them

[26:20] being new construction homes. Uh we've collected 184,000

[26:25] $848.76 at this time. Um with a total park fee

[26:31] of $22,500.

[26:35] Um and that's the end of my report.

[26:40] Okay. >> And Ryan, I won't be at that BCA meeting

[26:43] because I have the Lorco meeting that same night.

[26:46] » Okay. Um, and for the other trustees, I just want want you to know that in the

[26:51] future, Ryan's actually going to show the zoning fees and the park fees

[26:56] collected also on an annual basis. I don't have the exact numbers for 2025,

[27:03] but I know the zoning fees were around 100,000, the park fees were 12,000.

[27:08] Obviously, with the additional construction, we're going to be almost

[27:11] double that. We'll definitely hit double that in 2026.

[27:16] Um, I don't want people to think this is the norm because it's not. You know,

[27:21] we've got, we used to keep track on our agenda as far as the actual construction

[27:25] each year. So, we had that history and there were years where there was

[27:29] basically nothing being constructed and zoning fees were, you know, only a

[27:34] fraction of this, less than 10%. So, just you can't plan for this to be

[27:40] every single year, but for the next few years, this probably is going to be the

[27:44] case. But we'll see that when Ryan gets that

[27:48] organized and put together for his future reports.

[27:54] » Well, anything [snorts] else, Ryan, under

[27:58] that? No, that's all >> I The only thing I would add is uh there

[28:05] was the final site plan review for Stratton Corners and a week ago on the

[28:10] first and [clears throat] I believe the uh zoning commission did approve that

[28:14] final plan. uh

[28:21] road parks and cemeteries. Road superintendent smarsh

[28:26] other than uh a couple hundred feet of uh ditch dipping and a whole lot of tree

[28:33] trimming. Um it's just um been all regular maintenance running smooth.

[28:44] Okay. [clears throat]

[28:47] All right. Uh, that's that senior services township

[28:52] administrator. Township administrator Arasco.

[28:56] » Um, just that Kevin and I are still working on the MAC truck. Um, I think we

[29:00] came with a decision with what we're going to go with. And then this week or

[29:06] next week, we're going to talk with the bank and get everything set up and we'll

[29:09] have Chris included in on that conversation also. So that's what we got

[29:14] going on. That's it. >> Okay.

[29:20] » Oh, which I did send you guys emails too on with what we decided. Did everybody

[29:25] Did you guys get that also? No. Maybe

[29:32] with the interest rate the sevenyear. >> I gave you my opinion.

[29:36] » Yeah, >> we'll go through some of that here later

[29:39] when I get the reports then, Morgan. >> Okay.

[29:42] Okay. Um, and also [clears throat] I believe that powering our communities

[29:48] grant was approved or that went up powering our communities, but that one

[29:54] for the tree removal. Yes. >> For the tree removal for what? $2,800.

[29:58] » Yes. Only was approved. >> Yes, it was. Yep. Through Noc. Yep.

[30:02] » All right. Uh, moving along. Trustee reports.

[30:07] Jeremy, do you have anything? >> Yep. Just a couple things. Um, I did get

[30:11] a good followup with the Girl Scout troop. So, they're looking at doing this

[30:16] as a a bronze award for their Girl Scout program. It's basically just going to be

[30:22] a small um standup shed kind of thing where people can put Frisbes, footballs,

[30:28] soccer balls, and stuff and we'll keep it in the township park. It sounds like

[30:31] this isn't going to be till November. Um, so it won't be any rush. It'll be

[30:35] something they use next year. So Kevin, when it gets closer, you and I can meet

[30:39] and we'll find a place where it's not going to be in your way, but it's

[30:42] accessible to everybody. Um, and uh, get that. It'll be a nice little bonus for

[30:47] the park down there. And then um, I did not hear back about the trail program.

[30:55] So, the last I heard there's an application and a fee. I responded

[31:02] uh it that would eventually be on the website for Lake.

[31:06] Okay. >> Um and uh I asked you know before it's

[31:12] on the website, can I pick up the documents? Can you email me the

[31:15] documents? And I have not got any response. So I don't have any uh updates

[31:20] on where we're going. >> And the contact information I sent you

[31:24] Jeremy of Mark Chapo's email was on there. I don't remember. I don't have

[31:28] the has email, but I have a cell phone for

[31:31] » Yeah, I had the cell. I just wasn't sure if I had Well,

[31:35] » yeah, I can try an email as well, but I I don't have any updates as far as um

[31:40] whether they're going to be on board with that or not.

[31:42] » Yeah, that's all I had. David, thank you.

[31:46] » Neil, you anything? >> Yeah. Well, first off, just another

[31:49] response. So, um Jeremy, in the future, too, even working with the scouts and

[31:54] we've worked with the Girl Scouts and the Boy Scouts. Boy Scouts, it tends to

[31:58] be more when they're working towards their eagle.

[32:00] » Um, but we try and leave it open to them some too because the corner gardens

[32:06] which are in terrible disarray and what used to have the Girl Scouts had put up

[32:11] birdous, those have been vandalized over the years. Um, but that's one of the

[32:16] projects they've done in the past and essentially we provide the mulch and

[32:21] whatnot, but they come in and do the work.

[32:23] » But it's something that can be age appropriate. So it, you know, you don't

[32:26] need the um the older um scouts as far as whether it's boys or girl scouts

[32:34] doing it. Some of the younger ones can participate in that. So just you know if

[32:38] if you develop this contact that would help. We used to have some of the scout

[32:42] leaders here in our township which you know they move on as the kids move on.

[32:45] » Right. >> And I think the one you have now were

[32:48] they from Lraine was it? Or was she >> but the one was Vermilion?

[32:52] » Vermilion. Okay. I'll have to see. It's not as strong as it used to be,

[32:57] » but okay. >> Yep. They're excited about it, though.

[32:59] So, >> well, think about that because

[33:01] especially, >> you know, that might be one in the

[33:04] future could be tied [snorts] with the um Lorraine County uh beautiful with the

[33:10] solid waste district, you know, that's what we had before. We try and get the

[33:15] scouts out there, you know, to actually do, you know, work with us on.

[33:22] » Okay. Um, Georanne has my report up here. Uh, Georanne, this is first on the

[33:27] Corey Creek drainage. Can you bring up the actual plan, the overhead of the

[33:32] plot plan for that drainage? Okay. This is I've been working with uh Andy Cooksy

[33:37] sent out, I believe was last Friday, some changes he'd like to make. Uh it's

[33:42] still going back and forth between the prosecutor's office, the community

[33:46] development, um and soil and water as far as the

[33:50] finalization of the easements. Uh Andy's uh I responded to Andy's uh email. He's

[33:57] responded back today actually. He met with the county engineer. He said the

[34:02] county engineers asked for a couple other small tweaks. Hopefully that means

[34:06] he said we should have those easements for every property owner. uh that's

[34:11] impacted with the trunk line. Now, that's the main 10-in trunk line follows

[34:15] through here, not the laterals that come off that will become the resident's

[34:20] responsibility, but we'll be able to get those easements so that once we have

[34:24] those, we can go out for bid. But what Andy wants to do, uh Georgian, if you

[34:30] can go to the east, he's talking about extending this a little further to the

[34:33] east. Um I'm leaving that up to him in the storm water district. Uh I

[34:40] had told him he must have checked back through their records and they've

[34:44] actually had complaints from the residents to the east uh two parcel

[34:48] actually three parcels. Um I said we didn't have a plan here from the

[34:52] township. There's currently some open swailes there and if we believe the 2005

[35:00] uh topos on the auditor's website that should surface flow to where it would be

[35:06] picked up at the farthest eastern point for this project. But I know Andy would

[35:11] actually like to get out there and survey the area to verify those topos

[35:16] and what's there. And I told him that in the future it'd be up to the residents

[35:20] if that filled with debris or vegetation to maintain it. We weren't looking at

[35:24] that for this project. We were just trying to capture the low area where

[35:28] it's flowing off of all the residents uh coming from uh Middle Ridge and and Rice

[35:34] Road and just kind of flowing into few in the center since they happen to be in

[35:38] the low spots to get it out of there. Uh he also wants to check it to see how

[35:43] much ground cover he's going to have because as he goes further east

[35:47] obviously that pipe's going to be coming right up to the top of the surface. So I

[35:52] don't know if this will get extended or not but I let him know. We had no plans

[35:56] for it. Um but we will see once the easements are put together and if he

[36:02] does survey that area further to the east. He asked about whether he needed

[36:07] permanent or temporary easements. They said if the storm water district decides

[36:12] to go that far to address those residents complaints, my preference

[36:17] would be just make them temporary. You know, clean out the swailes, get those

[36:21] set, but let the residents there be responsible for the future and

[36:26] maintaining those swailes. Okay, if you can go back to the report,

[36:30] » the final discharge of this is that on the left hand side over the left the

[36:36] west, can you show where the discharge is? Yeah, it avoids the It avoids your

[36:41] family farm >> going right into the ditch there though.

[36:43] » Yes. Yeah. >> Yes. That was an adjustment that was

[36:46] made. So was added cost just to avoid that alto together and come down this

[36:51] way. So there's nothing going across the farm at all.

[36:55] » Okay.

[37:00] » Okay. If you go back to the report, Georgian,

[37:04] and scroll down to the uh roads and actually you can go all the way to

[37:11] where the uh round 41 schedule is. And by the way, Kevin, as we're here, is

[37:17] Dennis Concrete gotten a hold of you? >> Yes, he's open uh within the next couple

[37:21] of weeks to be established in Hidden Valley.

[37:24] » Okay. And that would be for the Deepwood projects.

[37:27] » Yep. He was messed around with the reigns of August as well.

[37:32] » Okay. Yeah. With the um Okay. The first thing she's showing, these are the the

[37:38] uh combination of the finances we hope uh will turn out to be. Uh keep in mind,

[37:44] just a reminder, we did not turn in the mini grants, storm water mini grants yet

[37:49] because we don't necessarily want those unless we're assured of being approved

[37:55] uh by district 9 of the Ohio Public Works Commission for the road project

[38:00] because if we just did the catch basin replacements, that's going to cost us

[38:04] considerably more. Kevin's going to have to be out there. Someone's going to have

[38:07] to cut out the concrete, put in preab. Well, then we'll come back later to do

[38:12] the rows. That just doesn't make sense. So, hopefully we get approved. Can you

[38:16] scroll down a little bit, Georgian? Um, this is the actual schedule for

[38:22] round 41. So, what we're looking at is most likely

[38:27] in next month, early October, we should have a sense if our project is going to

[38:33] be approved or not. uh they always caution you even if we do get approved

[38:38] is that uh that doesn't guarantee we get funded because it still has to go

[38:42] through the state. But my time as a trustee, the state has never pulled

[38:47] back. Uh the closest when the state was in financial

[38:51] uh difficulties was when people were most concerned that they might uh not

[38:57] fund to the full level that they uh originally appropriated for the public

[39:04] works in all the different districts. Um right below that you see the chip and

[39:10] seal. Um Kevin I don't you didn't mention this to the township did you?

[39:14] that they'll be out possibly as early as tomorrow for Melway

[39:20] that report. >> I No, I don't know when they're going to

[39:23] be out, but I did see signs posted. >> Loose gra.

[39:26] » The soonest would be tomorrow. >> Correct.

[39:28] » I just don't know when. So, uh, as review for the trustees, that's Rice

[39:33] Court, Cornia, Tina Lane, and Eerie Court. And, uh, Kevin's already seen to

[39:39] it with his crew that any base repairs that are necessary have been done. So,

[39:43] we were well in preparation for when they would come out. Now, the contract

[39:47] says it's supposed to be done by September 15th, I imagine there's some

[39:52] since the county quoted this, there's probably some wiggle room there uh with

[39:56] weather situations if they have to delay it, but we don't know where they'll

[40:01] start since this is countywide. Um, okay. If you scroll down the the next

[40:06] new plow truck, but go all the way down to the chart. Um, this is where I know

[40:11] that we had some emails going back and forth and Chris had asked that this be

[40:16] discussed at the meeting. Uh, if you recall, we passed the resolution

[40:21] uh to approve the fully outfitted truck and that's going to be just under

[40:26] $274,000. It's almost split 50/50 between the

[40:30] basic uh chassis and the snow package that's there. And from the start, I've

[40:38] always wanted this where uh we would have a lease purchase so that the uh

[40:44] township didn't have to spend all the money at once in watching our cash flow.

[40:49] And with the lease purchase, realize it's a municipal lease purchase. And so

[40:53] the um revenue as far as the interest rate that any bank earns is not it's not

[41:00] federally taxable. So that's where you tend to get the better rates. And I

[41:04] didn't show all of the items that Morgan had printed out, but I believe Morgan it

[41:09] went from 4.9 to 5.01, whether it was a 3year, 5 year, 7year. So there wasn't

[41:16] that much differential uh between them. But I just want people to understand

[41:21] these are the rates. Now, I'm not an economist. I don't know if I

[41:28] trust economists anyway based on all their predictions. Um, but right now, if

[41:34] you believe what the economists are saying, rates are going to go back up. I

[41:39] know that's in conflict with what the president wants, but the new Fed

[41:43] chairman is also talking about raising rates, which means our rates will go up.

[41:48] And where I'm considering that is we aren't sure yet on the fire truck if

[41:52] that will be paid outright or if that will be on a lease purchase. Also, um I

[42:00] know in previous discussions, Chris, you had indicated you prefer that one to be

[42:04] paid out because of some of the discussions that the tax budget

[42:08] commission had in the past. So, we can't really make a decision on that cuz we

[42:12] don't have those numbers. Um these numbers we do have, but at the same

[42:17] time, we also know that investment earnings are returning around 4%. Well,

[42:24] if your cost is five, it's really only 20% of that cost, assuming everything

[42:30] stays the same, which is a big assumption over 7 years. Um, if rates go

[42:36] up in terms of what the Fed does, realize our investments will probably go

[42:40] up. And if you've been watching uh CDs and money markets right now, they're

[42:44] actually they've swung back. They're going the other way. They're going up.

[42:48] Um, so our I don't expect in the near term our investment revenue to go down.

[42:55] Well, even if we just say at 4% versus the 5% cost, it's really only

[43:01] costing us 20%. And so when you look at this over a 7-year period, if it stayed

[43:07] consistent, that'd be $11,55, which on an annual basis is just a

[43:12] little over $1,600. So, since we've already authorized Kevin

[43:17] and Morgan uh to choose this, I would prefer we leave that there, but we'll

[43:22] have to have the discussion on the fire later. And I know Chris, you had

[43:26] mentioned it also causes some additional audit um issue. So, the trustees need to

[43:32] recognize there's additional work for Chris in doing this. And but at the same

[43:37] time, I don't want to take a simple approach and then find ourselves in a

[43:41] cash crunch, which this township has been in in the past. And I've been here

[43:45] long enough to remember those days when we talked about laying people off and we

[43:49] weren't doing any street repairs that we just didn't have the money. And I don't

[43:53] want to see us getting back to that. And that's why the the mention also and

[43:58] hopefully Ryan will start showing on an annual basis. You know, we were

[44:02] fortunate with the ARPA money, the COVID money, and now we've got this new

[44:06] development money. You can't expect that to last all the time. Um, and we should

[44:12] be, Kevin, over the last 6 years in good shape. Now, after we get the um plow

[44:18] truck and the fire truck, we should be okay because we got the new van, we got

[44:25] the um pickup truck, uh we got the backhoe, and we had the new box put on

[44:32] and we did all of that with the CO NARPA money. In addition, when we think about

[44:37] some of the other costs that we would have had coming on, we got the park

[44:41] resurface or the parking area and the repairs and resurfacing on the trail.

[44:46] So, those are all expenses we would have had and had we not had that ARPA money

[44:51] or had this growth, we would be having a whole different discussion here. We

[44:56] would definitely have no choice but to go through with the lease purchase. So

[45:00] that's just my position and I do recognize and Chris I appreciate all the

[45:04] work you're doing because as I've said before it didn't start really start till

[45:10] Howard came in but Chris has taken it to a new level as far as keeping those

[45:15] since we get these lumpy uh amounts of revenue coming in and

[45:19] Chris reported earlier still hadn't received second half for 2026. Well, you

[45:24] get those two big lumps of money. That's when she gets even more invested, but

[45:29] then you're paying it out as you go. Um, I'm also with the fire truck. We'll look

[45:35] at that later. And this is going to be beyond my time cuz I'm not going to live

[45:39] forever, hold this seat forever. Jeremy, you might want to consider this is we

[45:44] are now at a4 million in payout. You know, we're at the point we're doing

[45:50] that deficit spending, but we've got a healthy balance there. If we pay out

[45:56] over it'll be $1.3 million out of that, that goes away

[46:02] as does the 4% or over $40,000 a year in interest you're earning. Goes away.

[46:08] Whereas if you again, we can't say till we see what the new rates are, but we

[46:13] might want to do the same thing. I don't know what the terms would be, but that's

[46:18] a way to get the truck. And all you would do is delay when you have to go

[46:22] and ask the voters for a new levy. And what they've changed in levies, we can't

[46:26] ask for replacement anymore. It's either renewal or new. Well, a renewal just

[46:32] gives us exactly what we always got. So, you'll definitely be in the position of

[46:36] asking for new money at some time. So, by doing it this way, you just push that

[46:41] out in the future versus doing it sooner. And you'll get more of that as

[46:46] you, you know, you're going to have some of that your normal business sense, but

[46:49] you'll get some of the more training, you know, as the years go by down at the

[46:53] OTAA. But Chris, that's I know it's not what you'd hope.

[46:58] » I just want one of them to be paid for. I don't care which one it is. If it's

[47:02] the fire engine,

[47:05] » well, >> you want to pay cash for one of them.

[47:07] » Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay.

[47:08] » Yeah. I just can't. >> That's why I was like, $237. I can cut

[47:13] that tomorrow. >> Mhm.

[47:16] » Yeah. Well, >> or 73,000.

[47:19] » 273. >> Again, I prefer I'm looking at right

[47:22] now. So, it's not in the road department.

[47:25] There's over $200,000

[47:29] sitting in the general fund right now. It's actually about $280,000.

[47:34] That's all zoning fees right now that in the past we don't

[47:40] have. I hate to just go out again. I remember the lean years. I don't want to

[47:45] go back to that. I always prefer we have something, especially when there's those

[47:49] emergencies and we get a road upheaval coming up here. Kevin, there's no

[47:54] choice. You got to go out and repair it. >> Do we have any idea what the fire

[47:57] truck's going to cost? >> Yeah, it's um I believe the quote was

[48:01] 1.2 million. Then we've got up to 50,000 though we expect the cost to be 20,000.

[48:07] That's just putting all the bracketry on. Um, we will get an offset with the

[48:12] sale of the other truck and that's one I still have to work with the prosecutor's

[48:17] office on that. The logic in this and we're doing it with an outside service

[48:22] that was recommended by Ammerst Fire Department. Same ones that they use

[48:27] is in the past they used to try and put all the hangers and bracketry on

[48:31] themselves to hang the equipment. Well, they're not. That's not their forte. You

[48:35] take it to place that does it all the time that's all set up with their shop

[48:38] with all their equipment there. It's much quicker. You can get I think

[48:43] they've got >> I forget the quote, Jeremy, but I think

[48:46] it was either a week or two weeks. There's a limited time they can have

[48:49] that truck out of service that they have to turn it around. So, it'll be probably

[48:54] 1.3 million. >> But we're splitting. That's like a split

[48:58] or we we're buying a >> No, we're buying our own truck.

[49:02] » Yes. That's part of the agreement because here's your option. If you don't

[49:06] buy it, then the city buys it, but now you're paying more than the roughly

[49:10] quarter million we're paying a year, you're going to pay much more.

[49:14] » Um, at the time it was a doubling of the quarterly payment. If we didn't have the

[49:22] truck, and that was every single year. And when you looked at uh the life cycle

[49:28] of the truck, it was a lower cost to provide

[49:32] um the tanker truck. Now, Ammerst needs a tanker truck also, but on a much more

[49:36] limited basis in the township because the majority of the city has fire

[49:41] hydrants all around. We got many areas in our township, there's no hydrants.

[49:46] where we've been adding hydrants is every time there is a new development,

[49:50] not only do we get it in the development, if we can get the hydrants

[49:53] somewhere else, we do. Uh the typical, for instance, is down on 58 cuz we had

[49:59] hydrants on added on 58 so that they don't have to drag hoses across five

[50:05] lanes of highway. >> Well, that was paved by the development

[50:09] versus us paying it out of our fire fund, you know, just going and adding

[50:13] them somewhere. And even with those, you got to work with every one of the

[50:17] different water authorities to even put it on. So we've got uh Nora water, we've

[50:22] got Ayria water, we've got Ammerst Water, we got Rural Lraine County Water,

[50:27] we got Lraine Water. So we got five different entities. So Lraine, I guess

[50:32] we can say, has been taken over by the county, at least the four. We got all

[50:36] these different water authorities to deal with also

[50:39] » and getting them in. So, >> so Chris, if we're paying cash for 1.3

[50:44] million or 273, what makes more sense to you?

[50:48] » Like you want to pay cash for that firet truck?

[50:51] » We have I've it's been appropriated over because every year the budget commission

[50:56] asks, "Why do you have $2 million sitting in your account?"

[50:59] » Yeah. >> And every year I've responded, "Well,

[51:01] we're buying a new firet truck, so I don't want to

[51:06] » Okay. Yeah. Works for me." But I've had that discussion directly with Craig

[51:10] Snodgrass and he understands it. Like Craig, you know, we've had this truck we

[51:14] purchased in 2003, the current truck. >> Mhm.

[51:18] » So, and here we we ordered this truck over 3 years ago. We had a 38 month and

[51:23] I think now we're at 40 months already build cycle. So, you can't, you know,

[51:29] it's not like you're paying it out, but you're holding that money letting it

[51:31] build up knowing eventually you got to buy a truck.

[51:34] » Mhm. But I'm still saying my preference, I know this goes contrary to what Chris

[51:38] would be, depending upon what the numbers are at the time the truck

[51:43] becomes available, >> may still want to do the lease purchase

[51:47] on it. So, we're just taking a small bite at the apple because once you take

[51:51] that um 1.3 million out of there, you figure what each each um 1% is $13,000.

[52:01] So 4% you're actually talking $52,000. That's $52,000 less a year you have.

[52:08] » Mhm. >> Well, if you lease this really and let's

[52:12] assume it's still a 1% differential. Obviously, you got to pay it out, too.

[52:17] Well, you're going to lose that money, which means we're going to be in a

[52:20] position of asking for a levy, a new levy sooner to pay for fire. I mean,

[52:27] that's just the reality of it. So, it's just a matter of cash flow.

[52:31] » Okay. >> Okay. But that's something we're we're

[52:33] going to have to look at when we get closer. And there will be

[52:39] um some residual from the truck we've got here. I don't know how much that's

[52:43] going to be. Um, it's Grinley Fire Apparatus out of Alabama is who Amherst

[52:51] is looking at, though they still haven't committed to that for their uh pumper

[52:56] truck cuz they're getting a pumper engine replaced also. And they're

[53:00] recommending we go with the same thing here. Uh, because the two townships in

[53:06] Lorraine County that expressed an interest in our tanker truck before no

[53:11] longer have an interest. I assume they've got one somewhere else to get a

[53:15] used one. Um, so I've got to work with the prosecutor on that because reading

[53:20] the code it gets kind of crazy since I also know that um, uh, Pierce will not

[53:28] take we our preference is here you take the old truck, give us that trade in,

[53:32] we'll get the new one, reduce it. That we can do very clean with the revised

[53:36] code. They don't want it because of the age.

[53:39] » Mhm. and uh Brinley, there's several different manufacturers that will market

[53:44] your truck to sell it. Obviously, they take a piece off of that just like a

[53:48] realtor would. Um they're at the same point. Once it gets over 20 years, they

[53:54] don't want to deal with it. And that's where we're at with this. So, but they

[53:57] will put it out there and usually it's smaller for jurisdictions that are going

[54:02] to purchase an old truck. But I have no idea what it's going to be. I can tell

[54:07] you the engine in Amherst, let me just say it's under 40,000.

[54:14] Our first estimate. Now, that was an estimate from three almost four years

[54:20] ago. They're not even giving an estimate for it now. So, who knows what it'll be,

[54:24] but we'll get some residual off the old truck. Hopefully, something better than

[54:28] that because it has been maintained. Um, but we'll see.

[54:32] » Okay.

[54:37] Okay. Uh, >> anything else new?

[54:40] » Yes. Um, Golden Acres, uh, just a reminder, we are meeting on, uh,

[54:46] September 10th at 2:00 at the county. Uh, I do know that the, uh, developer

[54:53] that's interested has put together the plan. Um, I know they were to send it to

[55:00] Jim Zick, Metro Parks director. I don't know if that's happened. I haven't been

[55:05] in contact with Jim since then to see if uh this would have been at least three

[55:09] weeks ago. I haven't talked with Jim to see if he's

[55:13] got that plan. And Jim was also supposed to put a a sketch of where the trails

[55:19] would be, but he wanted to see the development plan before he could put the

[55:22] trail plan in. But I've also heard from one of the commissioners that we're

[55:27] probably and when he says we, I don't know who we is, unless that means Metro

[55:32] Parks, uh, the county, uh, the township that have interest in this, um, may have

[55:39] to meet with the port authority because somehow, if you recall, that was where

[55:44] Jim Miller was to take it to the board of the port authority to feel them out

[55:48] and gauge their interest. Sounds like there are more questions and answers. I

[55:53] don't want to waste a lot of time. If we don't, if the property doesn't sell,

[55:56] there's no need to even be talking about this. Um, I do know this developer's up

[56:01] the price. They're not upping it anymore. You know, what they're offering

[56:04] per acre is already more than what the developer for the 65 acres under

[56:10] annexation is offering per acre. I mean, I think he's probably paying too much as

[56:15] it is now, but we'll just have to see where that goes. So, another a small

[56:22] potential update on that project, and again, it won't matter if it doesn't go

[56:26] through, but I talked to some uh private donors who would be interested in

[56:30] purchasing the Dewey road lots and donating it to the metro parks.

[56:34] » So, I, you know, talking to Tom about that, it sounded like, you know, by the

[56:39] time they put this much money in, there's no value to them anyways. So if

[56:43] there was, you know, whatever value we came up with for those three lots on

[56:46] Dewey, somebody potentially just pay cash and give it right to the

[56:50] » You know what? I don't know if you're talking the same ones because this was a

[56:54] couple years ago. I know an individual that was willing to donate towards the

[57:00] park itself and the [clears throat] trails.

[57:04] » This is somebody else. >> Yeah. The issue is

[57:08] if some And it could still work. That could still work. Yeah,

[57:12] » just be coming up with the value. >> Yeah, that could work too because then

[57:15] they're out of it. Yeah, they just all they want to do is get their money back

[57:20] » and that's essential because they'll have the unlock system. But yeah, that's

[57:23] another possibility. Um being with that, >> it's probably best you talk with the

[57:30] developer direct. I don't want to hear about the details.

[57:33] » Yeah. Not not in something like that, Jeremy.

[57:36] » Um

[57:40] » Okay. foundation help. I know you guys weren't able to attend the uh photo op

[57:45] for their it wasn't technically groundbreaking since they were already

[57:49] had their foundation and if you go out there now you'll see it's going

[57:52] vertical. They're putting up trusses today. Uh but they did indicate when

[57:58] it's time for the actual grand opening there will be a ribbon cutting and so

[58:02] they will let us know when that is. The next one, Stratton Corners. Uh,

[58:09] David already mentioned and can you show the actual development plan there,

[58:15] Georgian? Okay. What um David had mentioned on

[58:19] September 1st, uh, David Kohler of Cambridge Development was here and he

[58:24] did discuss that uh, he got the um, site plan review for his uh, final plan for

[58:32] phase one. Phase one. And can you outline that roughly,

[58:37] Georgian? It's really going to be about half of this. So, there's 74 homes.

[58:41] We're probably talking about 35. Are you running your cursor? Yep, she is. I just

[58:46] have trouble seeing it. The um probably 35 to 40 homes in the first phase. It's

[58:51] actually going to be the portion of the west. Uh I don't recall him giving an

[58:55] exact number. Uh this plan doesn't show the landscape plan, but he did have the

[58:59] landscape plan there for approval. He has the erosion and sediment control and

[59:05] storm water plan approved. Um, if you've been driving by the area, you'll see

[59:11] there's been more concrete poured. So, the main road coming in off of Oland

[59:16] Road uh is constructed uh heading to the east. Uh they actually poured a portion

[59:23] to the north, which is actually the left on here. The way this map is laid out,

[59:28] um they poured that first. I don't quite [snorts] understand the the order of

[59:34] their pouring, but they've still got some more roadway uh to put in place.

[59:38] All the underground is already taken care of on here. Um there will be the

[59:44] floating fountains in there to keep the water agitated. Um so, and that's a nice

[59:49] feature. Also, there will only be two wet ponds. Um because that was one thing

[59:54] that was discussed at the meeting that the uh plans that he didn't give us

[59:58] electronic versions cuz he had just gotten them prior to his meeting on

[1:00:03] September 1st. Um but those plans show three wet said no

[1:00:09] there's only two. So that area that is to the left which is north of the bat

[1:00:14] house ditch that's actually going to be dry. Um so though it might show that

[1:00:19] it's blue it's actually going to be a dry area. It will take the overflow and

[1:00:23] the batten house ditch overflows, but it will settle back into the ditch as the

[1:00:27] water goes down. Um,

[1:00:32] the Let's see.

[1:00:37] Just got to I think I may need my glasses here to read this.

[1:00:51] Oh, the yeah, the last item he he promised because he didn't show it

[1:00:55] during the site uh the final uh site plan review for phase one is the roughly

[1:01:02] 16 12 acres there. Can you show that that acreage, Georgian? Is he still Yes,

[1:01:09] he understands. Oh, that's better. That he's got to put the walking trails in

[1:01:13] there, but they have to connect. There's 95 acres to the south of this or in this

[1:01:18] case to the right uh which we know eventually will develop, but in in uh

[1:01:25] compliance with our comprehensive plan zoning, we'd like to keep those

[1:01:29] interconnected. And so he's agreed, but he says they

[1:01:34] still haven't determined exactly where the layout is. They want to preserve the

[1:01:37] larger trees and take out the undergrowth. So that will be connected.

[1:01:42] Um,

[1:01:46] » tree planting. Kevin, I don't know if we want any of those trees that through the

[1:01:49] first energy program or not. They're going to be small ones.

[1:01:52] » Yeah. No, I have some small trees um at the end of the field that I'm going to

[1:01:58] plant. You know, I don't want to plant them in

[1:02:01] August, even though I probably could have. Uh, [snorts]

[1:02:04] » yeah, this August. [laughter] >> Right. Uh, but for the uh for the noc

[1:02:09] money, >> right, the [clears throat] Okay, good.

[1:02:12] Yeah. And speaking of the NOPEC grant, that's on here also is though Morgan did

[1:02:17] indicate that the uh the dispersement was approved, but I don't want to close

[1:02:22] it out till [clears throat] we've got the money. So once Chris tells us you've

[1:02:26] got the money, we'll close it off. Otherwise, I'm going to keep that open.

[1:02:31] Um Venice complaints I just put down in here and we did have um Mr. Veru and Mr.

[1:02:36] McNab here earlier. I added on the rice road complaint and I don't know sounds

[1:02:42] Jeremy probably because you live over there you're hearing it I don't know if

[1:02:45] you are David but you know you you hear these complaints about that area and

[1:02:51] it's like you keep telling people the same thing so that's why if you saw

[1:02:55] there was a response put together um and it appeared I think Mr. McNab indicated

[1:03:00] Karen's is white and that's why we try to keep the response the same and we've

[1:03:05] been through this. Our hands are kind of tied at this point in time. Um their

[1:03:10] best bet is to continue working through law enforcement because this is actually

[1:03:15] more so than a civil this is a criminal uh issue that needs to be addressed. Um

[1:03:22] but that'll be the end of my report. David.

[1:03:25] » Okay. This time I have nothing further to

[1:03:30] bring forward under reports here [clears throat]

[1:03:35] uh except that uh the policy committee will meet for the solid waste district

[1:03:41] next week on the 15th instead of on the 8th today. So that's all I have to bring

[1:03:49] at this time and

[1:03:54] u unfinished business. I have nothing further under arms finished business.

[1:03:59] » Nothing. >> All right. And uh

[1:04:03] » you have something >> uh under uh

[1:04:10] uh the township administrator. Is this something you want to do after executive

[1:04:13] session in your mind? >> The executive session is different on

[1:04:16] personnel. It's dealing with the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know if that

[1:04:19] would do into this or not. I don't think there's any need to, David, because we

[1:04:23] had this discussion in the past uh determine what the rate was uh for this

[1:04:29] year. We just weren't sure as far as the timing of bringing Morgan on fulltime.

[1:04:36] Um we just knew we had to do something at this meeting and I kind of left it

[1:04:41] open, you know, respecting Chris usually tried to do time things between payrolls

[1:04:46] and she's got she's the one that's got to handle this part. So, um, I put it as

[1:04:52] September 1st or let's see, how do I word it?

[1:04:56] » September 1st. >> Yeah. Well, I put September 1st, Chris,

[1:05:00] but I put some words in there so that you can adjust that. Um,

[1:05:04] » or the earliest effective date. >> September 1st is

[1:05:08] » that works for you. Okay. >> We already talked about it.

[1:05:11] » Oh, good. Well, you've got it. She's got the paperwork she needs to fill out for

[1:05:16] » uh waving her coverage >> until we need to cover you.

[1:05:20] » Yep. >> Okay.

[1:05:24] » Yeah. >> So, this would be resolution 93 if I

[1:05:28] » correct. >> Yeah. And basically, it's now it'll be

[1:05:31] at the C3 rate, which is what Morgan's getting now, but it's just changing the

[1:05:35] hours now to 40 hours. Okay,

[1:05:39] » that's your motion. >> Yes.

[1:05:42] Second.

[1:06:03] » Okay. Motion been made and seconded. Any further discussion?

[1:06:08] No further discussion. Roll call. >> Lynch. Yes.

[1:06:11] » Watson. >> Yes.

[1:06:13] » Yes. >> And what number was that again?

[1:06:15] » 9326. >> 93. Thank you.

[1:06:20] » So, Chris, you're ahead of the game again.

[1:06:28] » Thanks, Morgan. >> Thank you.

[1:06:30] » I appreciate it. >> Appreciate you.

[1:06:33] » Thanks. Let

[1:06:35] » me know when you're ready, David.

[1:06:40] Next item, we need an executive session. >> Yes. I'll make a motion to enter into

[1:06:46] executive session for 121.22 uh G

[1:06:53] uh G1. Um you know, this is and again though

[1:06:59] this is dealing with uh personnel and compensation. and it's going to be about

[1:07:03] a benefit package and changes that we may have to get something passed this

[1:07:07] year uh in October uh to help people as they're selecting their health care.

[1:07:15] This doesn't impact a whole lot of people. So I think we're talking a

[1:07:19] couple but um we do have to look at that. And then also for

[1:07:26] um G3. So G1 and G3. G3 this is a potential litigation dealing with the uh

[1:07:35] 65 acre annexation.

[1:07:39] » All right. >> I'll second.

[1:07:43] » Okay. Heard me seconded.

[1:07:48] » Roll call. >> Lynch.

[1:07:49] » Yes. >> Watson.

[1:07:50] » Yes. >> Yuri.

[1:07:51] » Yes. Okay, let's [clears throat] return from

[1:07:55] executive session at uh 9:30. I make a motion to return from

[1:08:01] executive session. >> Second.

[1:08:05] » Made and seconded. >> Yes.

[1:08:07] » Watson. >> Yes.

[1:08:08] » Lynch. >> Yes.

[1:08:10] » Okay. If there's nothing else to come before the board, then uh I will state

[1:08:17] the next scheduled meeting is for Tuesday, September 22nd at 700 p.m. here

[1:08:23] at the township hall. Uh no other business to come before the

[1:08:28] board. I will make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second,

[1:08:35] » who got that? >> Jeremy got [laughter] that. Okay. Motion

[1:08:40] made and seconded. Roll call. >> Yuring,

[1:08:42] » yes. >> Watson, Lynch,

[1:08:43] » yes.

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