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start it.
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I'm going to call this meeting to order.
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Town council hearing and meeting. It's
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Wednesday, August 19th, 2026 at 6 p.m.
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And we'll start with the pledge
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to the flag of the United States of
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America and to the republic for which it
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stands. One nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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>> Kevin, you want to pray for us?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Heavenly Father, we're grateful to
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gather here and those that can make it
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out to join our meeting tonight. We hope
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this will go smoothly and we're grateful
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for all the rain we had. Um I'm still
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going to pray for rain, but maybe we
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could slow the flow a little bit this
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time. But we appreciate what we've got.
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And uh please bless our little
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community, Father, that we may be
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prepared in all things. Forgive us for
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our transgressions and transgresses
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against our neighbors and friends and
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that we can all get along and work
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together. We humbly say these things in
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the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
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>> All right, roll call.
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>> Oh, Kevin S here,
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>> Mike Ferrar here,
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>> Scott Taylor here, Richard Palmer here,
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>> and Vinlo will not be joining us
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tonight.
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Um, any conflicts of interest?
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>> No.
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>> Money for me.
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>> It's not your wife.
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>> Nope.
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» Uh, mayor's town update reports
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recommendations. I really don't have a
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lot. I mean, there's not I could sit
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here talk about the flood all day long.
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I do want to talk about a silver lining
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to the flood. Um we're in my estimates
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our water level is dropping about 10 to
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15 feet a year in the aquafer. Um they
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say any rain will take years and years
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to get down to the aquafer. So any of
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this rain is not doing anything. That's
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the science, that's the engineers. Um
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and I respect what they say, but the
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proof's in the pudding. From this last
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storm, uh we gained 2 feet in our water
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level. I don't know how long that's
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going to stay. It's only been a few
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days, but it's holding so far. So,
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that's some good news. I know it can't
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soak through the ground that fast, but
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maybe there's a river uh that's feeding
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it when we get some rain. Um I'm not
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sure. They've never really monitored the
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level. So, that's some pretty good news.
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That was the silver lining to the storm.
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So, um we did a couple more storms like
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that. And it's not a lot. It's 2 feet
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when you're losing, you know, 10 to 15
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feet a year, but it's something. It's
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not going this way. It started going
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that way. So, that was really good news.
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So, we need to dam up our pond out here.
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>> Yeah, we need dam water.
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>> Yep. So, that's it.
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>> Dude, would stop washing his car.
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>> You guys got anything?
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>> No.
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>> Nope. All right, let's roll on the
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public comments. Three minutes each.
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Anybody here have got anything they want
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to say? Anybody online?
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» Nope. All right, I'm going to close
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public comments. We're going to roll
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right into the public hearing. Item
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number one, parody water. I'm going to
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open a public hearing for item number
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one, parody water revenue revenue bonds
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not to exceed 4,500,000.
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This uh the meeting on the 19th is the
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public hearing for the purpose of
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receiving input from the public with
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respect to the issuance of the bonds and
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any potential economic impacts to the
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private sector from the engineering and
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well rehabilitation work to address an
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emergency drop situation and the
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acquisition of the assets of big claims
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water and sewer special service district
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including real property and water
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rights. the project to be funded by the
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parody water revenue bonds in the amount
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to not to exceed $4,500. The council
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will not need to adopt any documents.
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Just hold the public hearing. The
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minutes from the hearing should include
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the bond being issued, the $200,000
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emergency project, as well as the
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drinking water board and rural
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development bonds that are being issued
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and acquiring the big plains debt, the
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repayment terms, and any comments
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received from the public. So, what's
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we're not taking out, before everybody
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panics, I know some people read stuff.
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We're not taking out $4.5 million loan.
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Um, this is us still finishing up the
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change over from Big Claim to the town.
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Um, even though we assumed all their
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debt and their assets, we have to
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officially put the debt into our name.
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We've been waiting on some of the state
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people for about a year. Um, so we're
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finally at the point where the ball is
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rolling. So, that's what this is. Just
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something that we're required to do
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public hearing. So, let's see if anybody
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had anything to say and I'll let
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Michelle probably do have some stuff you
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want to add or
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>> No, just mainly that it it's the
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existing or pre-existing debt that was
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with big claims and then it also
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includes the $200,000 loan that
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>> $200,000 that the division of drinking
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water gave us for our state of emergency
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declared. Uh the reason we are taking
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that loan is I don't believe in debt,
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but it's $200,000
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0% interest for 30 years. So, it's free
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money. I can put that in the bank and
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earn money on interest. So, it's
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definitely a good thing and we can use
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the moneyound that Yep. And we can use
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the money for the repairs because that's
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a lot of money and I didn't know where
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we're going to get the money. So, all
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that works out pretty good. So, um any
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public comments? Anybody have anything
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to say about that?
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Online?
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No. All right. I'm going to close out
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the comments for item number one. I'm
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not going to read all that again. And
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I'll open up the public hearing for item
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number two, resolution number
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R-20226-27,
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amending the water conservation plan.
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I'll go over that with you guys later in
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detail. It's just basically setting up
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some stages for water conservation.
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Anybody have anything to say?
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Anybody online?
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Nope. Okay. I'm going to close the
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public hearing for item number two,
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resolution number R-2026-27,
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amending the water conservation plan.
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Then roll in item number three, open up
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public hearing to resolution number
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R-2026-28,
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amending B schedule with emergency water
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rights in exhibit A. This is also goes
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with number two. This is just going to
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be something we're going to talk about
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later with emergency water rights.
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Anybody have any comments or questions
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from the public? Anybody online?
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Nope. Okay. Okay, I'm going to close
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public hearing for item number three,
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resolution number R-20226-28,
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amending P schedule with emergency water
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rates in exhibit A. On item number four,
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open up public hearing for ordinance
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numbers O-20226-18,
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revised procurement ordinance. This is
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just Michelle's been working on some of
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our procurement ordinances and policies
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to ensure room state law. Anybody out
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there got anything comments or
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questions? Anybody online?
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Nope. Okay, I'm going to close item
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number four, ordinance numbers
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O-20226-18,
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revised procurement ordinance. Roll
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right into discussion and action. Going
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to open up number five for discussion
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action. Special event permit for the
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2026 Grand Circle Trail Fest to be Trail
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Fest to be held on October 2nd, 2026 at
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Ruby Ryder Ranch and the Wire Mesa
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Trail, Apple Valley, Utah. This will be
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on October 2nd, 2026. Um, this is the
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yearly trail run they event. There's one
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that they do for three days. This is the
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one they do for one day. going to have
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about 400 people. These guys know the
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drill. We had zero problems from them
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last time with setup, the race and tear
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down, clean up. They're looking at 5
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a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Um they water down the
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road with dust. They've done a really
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good job with that. Bring in the town, I
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think about $1,700 somewhere around
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there. We have $500 vent fee, $250 drone
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fee. They usually pay $250 for dirt road
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and 750 for fire. So I think it's a
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pretty simple one. Scott Taylor move we
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approve the special event permit for the
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2026 Grand Circle Trail Fest to be held
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on October 2nd 2026 at the Ruby Ryder
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Ranch in the Wire Mesa Trail, Apple
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Valley, Utah.
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>> Second.
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>> All in favor?
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>> I.
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>> Motion carries. On item number six,
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resolution number R-20226-31,
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establishing procedures for resolving
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ties and filling midterm vacancies.
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We're going to adopt an official
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permanent uh procedure for uh adopting
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uh uh town counsel
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members when we have a vacancy. And the
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reason we have to do that is the year
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the rules change all the time. Um so
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this one is basically just care
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clarifying that the town council does
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interviews that we interview the people.
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We vote. If there's a tie, we go to a
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tiebreaker. There's I think there was
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three or four different choices we could
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choose. Uh me and Jenna looked at it and
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we chose the simplest one. Jenna, what
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is that? How would that tiebreaker work
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if there was a tie
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>> that arm wrestling?
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>> It's called by drawing by lot.
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>> Oh, okay.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, that's all that is. If you guys read
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through it, if you have questions for me
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or Jenna, I would say me, but Jenna
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probably knows it better than me. I've
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read through it, but it's pretty simple.
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It's mainly just for, like I said, just
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for a time here.
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Scott telling move we approve resolution
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number R-202026-31
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establishing procedures for resolving
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ties and filling midterm vacancies.
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Roll call vote.
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>> I sir I
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>> Mike Ferrari I
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>> Scott Taylor I
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>> Richard Palmer I
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>> motion carries on item number seven
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interviews and appointment to fill
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midterm vacancy on the Apple Valley Town
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Council pursuant to Utah code 28-1-510.
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We have three applicants. We have Brooke
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Paxton, Leaf Relish, and Tanya let me
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see Netson. Is that right? Nen
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>> Nudson.
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>> Nen.
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>> Okay. Um, before we get started, I can
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tell you I know all three of these
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people. I think most of us do. Um, I'm
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pretty excited about this these three
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people. Um, I could flip a coin right
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now and and I would think any one of
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these three people would be great for
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the town, great for town council. Um, I
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think we have excellent choices. Um, so
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I'm very excited about that. So, let's
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jump in with Brooke since we have her
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online. Brooke, can I make you go first?
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you want to uh what do we normally do is
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kind of tell us a little bit about
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yourself and um I think everybody's got
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our application. We've sent those out to
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everybody and
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tell us a little bit about yourself and
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why you think you'd be a good council
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member.
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» Sure. Um I am married. I have two kids.
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I homeschool. Uh, I also am very
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involved
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with the community garden in Apple
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Valley and really just want to be of
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service to the town and if I can be, I
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would love to make myself available.
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>> Thank you, Brooke. We appreciate that. I
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think we all know Brooke. She's heavily
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invol involved with the town garden. She
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does amazing things. Uh, she does an
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amazing job. has two amazing young boys
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that uh some of the best young men I've
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ever met. Um she's good people and and
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she shares a lot of the town values with
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the residents want. So
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>> yes, Ryan's a great guy. Ryan's a great
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guy. So, okay, let's roll. Let's put Lee
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on the hospital. Lee, come up.
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>> Did you bring a lot of cash?
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Yeah, I got to
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uh leave. I've been here for 12 years.
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We built our home
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or 14. So any I'm retired. I spent uh 30
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plus years in a career in corporate
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development
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uh building building us and
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some in Canada, some in Mexico, some in
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Europe. So had quite a bit uh career and
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put on a lot of plane miles.
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Anyway, uh I've been on the planning
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commission for over 10 years since I've
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been here. U going way back to Mayor
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Moer and through his second term and
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beyond. I think I've served seven or
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eight mayors in that time.
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Um, some of it was contentious, but but
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mostly uh the best thing I'm most proud
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of is we aren't as contentious as we
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used to be.
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>> I remember a time when we had called
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police come in here and break up fights.
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>> So, u I think we've matured a little bit
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since then.
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>> But anyway, I I just want to continue my
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career in helping the city and I think
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it's time for me to get to graduation.
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So
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>> let me just say regardless of anything
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that happens in the vote tonight that I
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appreciate all the time you've spent in
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our community helping out being 10 years
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on the planning commission certainly
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earned your rewards on
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>> I have a short memory
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» that certainly does help your
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qualifications.
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>> I've worked with Lee on planning
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commission for a short time and rally's
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worked with him as good as they come. uh
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has a lot of the town values uh
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concerned um kind of uh does a good job
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on his homework, his research.
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The only drawback, there is a drawback
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to electing Lee and that's Bradley was
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going to be very upset with us because
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he has to find a new planning commission
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member and he doesn't want to lose Lee,
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but he does know what's best for the
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town if that's the case we decide on.
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So, all right, Tanya, you want to come
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up? Tell us a little about yourself.
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Tanya Kudson. I moved here in 2019 about
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three months before COVID hit from
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California. Best move I ever made. Um
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>> I lived in Ranch Cook Monga, which when
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I moved there in 1999 was open fields. I
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know those of you that haven't lived in
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California find that hard to believe,
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but open fields. We would have hot air
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balloons, land, herds of sheep. I mean,
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it was it was rural, it was country, it
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was wonderful.
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And when I left, it was a nightmare. So,
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I just had to get out. Um, I worked 30
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years in aerospace,
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um, planning, uh, program management,
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uh, working closely with engineering.
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Uh, I can read blueprints. I just did
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everything I could learn about the
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aerospace industry. And although I don't
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know a lot about this side of the
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government and and all of this, I feel
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like I'm very motivated and I I'm very
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detail oriented and I just want to see
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the town I'm retired, the town that I
[14:53]
retired to grow in a slow and managed
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way, not like what I've seen before. I
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also lived in Maine for seven years in a
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little tiny town. So I know what it's
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like to live both in a huge town and a
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very small town. Sorry, I haven't
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interviewed in 25 years.
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>> You're good. You're good.
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>> You're good.
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>> And I didn't plan on it either.
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[laughter]
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>> I like to spring things on you
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>> and I'm open to change.
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>> Good. Good.
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>> So I just want to help. And if you
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decide to go with Lee, I might be
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interested in the planning commission
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talk. So, just putting that out there.
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>> Good. That's good. That's good. We're
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going to need someone,
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right?
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>> Have a female perspective.
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> If it makes you feel any better, we only
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run because we don't know what we're
[15:46]
getting ourselves into.
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>> And you don't. [laughter]
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>> Hey, you guys have any questions for
[15:53]
anybody? Any clarification? Like I said,
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it's always pretty easy. We go. It's
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know such a small town. I know
[15:58]
everybody. But you guys have any
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questions? You had the applications for
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a while now.
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Anything for anybody?
[16:07]
>> No. You guys good?
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>> I'm good.
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>> So, the next step is just to basically
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just um just state your vote out loud
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like mayor Michael Bar and then who you
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vote for out loud
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and then
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>> I thought we got to write it down.
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>> We don't write down.
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vote out loud. If we get to drawing by
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lot if needed. If we don't
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>> if we don't h if basically we're going
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to vote among all the qualified
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candidates each council member's vote is
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immediately disclosed publicly. If any
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candidate receives three vote that
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candidate is appointed and the process
[16:45]
begins. Um if no candidate receives
[16:48]
three votes then we'll identify the two
[16:49]
candidates with the most votes. use the
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adopted drawing by law procedure only
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when the vote results do not clearly
[16:56]
identify the final two. So
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>> um and then after that we do um
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we'll conduct the drawing at the public
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meeting if needed um and then the second
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vote if needed is vote between the only the final two candidates.
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>> Okay.
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>> Should I start?
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>> Yep.
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>> Okay. Well, first of all, I want to
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thank all those of you who have put your
[17:21]
name in the hat. Appreciate when our
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community steps forward to serve.
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Sometimes it's a tough job, but it does
[17:28]
have a lot of rewards also. So, thank
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all of you.
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>> Win
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[laughter]
[17:33]
seen this yet.
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>> Well,
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that's my opinion anyway. But, um, well,
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Lee, I'm simply gonna vote for you
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because I already got a plaque for me,
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so I don't have to buy another plaque.
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You save the stand box.
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>> Good idea.
[17:51]
>> Is that what do we need to do any
[17:53]
formality or is that it? That's a vote.
[17:56]
>> Just want to make sure.
[17:59]
>> I feel he's certainly put his time in on
[18:00]
the planning commission will make a
[18:02]
great asset.
[18:03]
>> Yep. Okay. I'll go next. Um, yeah, this
[18:06]
is a tough one. Like I said, this is
[18:08]
probably the hardest one we've had to
[18:10]
do. And I honestly I appreciate the
[18:13]
three of you. I could literally just
[18:15]
flip a coin. any three of you would be
[18:17]
amazing for this town. Um the tiebreaker
[18:19]
in my mind was for me because it was a
[18:22]
tough decision was kind of what Kevin
[18:24]
just said. Um Lee has put in 10 years on
[18:27]
planning commission. He definitely has
[18:29]
some experience and he uh has definitely
[18:33]
put put his time in. So I'm going to go
[18:35]
for Lee.
[18:39]
» All right. Um Scott Taylor, I want to
[18:41]
thank everyone for putting their name in
[18:44]
the hat. Um, it's not an easy thing to
[18:46]
do.
[18:48]
So, I really appreciate it. Lee, I
[18:49]
appreciate your 10 years of service to
[18:51]
the city. You got a lot of history
[18:53]
behind you. Um,
[18:56]
so I really appreciate that. Um, Tanya,
[18:59]
thanks for coming and, uh, appreciate
[19:01]
your words. Saw your application, the
[19:04]
things you submitted. A very capable,
[19:06]
very competent person and could easily
[19:09]
do the job. Brooke as well, we have very
[19:12]
good candidates. Um Lee has put in his
[19:15]
time 10 years with the planning
[19:17]
commission. So my vote goes to Lee
[19:20]
Freish.
[19:23]
>> Okay. Do we continue?
[19:27]
>> I think we should continue and get
[19:28]
Richard's vote.
[19:30]
>> I think that's fine.
[19:31]
>> Yeah. He needs to put his neck out there
[19:32]
like
[19:34]
>> this is not a fun thing. I promise you
[19:36]
guys.
[19:39]
>> Love to hear Richard's.
[19:41]
>> It is. It is a tough decision. It really
[19:43]
is
[19:44]
>> real hard decision.
[19:46]
>> Um I'm not going to be a repeat record
[19:48]
of what they all said. Thank you Lee for
[19:51]
that. Tanya, thank you for applying.
[19:54]
Brooke, thank you. I got to go with Lee
[19:56]
just because of the experience and he he
[19:59]
will fill that seat.
[20:01]
>> He's got some brains upstairs. So he's
[20:04]
going to help us out. So I vote Lee.
[20:06]
>> But but don't go away because
[20:09]
always open up down the road. So,
[20:11]
>> Brooke, same for you. Tanya, yes, you're
[20:13]
gonna have a planning commission spot
[20:15]
open now and I'm hoping to talk to both
[20:17]
of you and hopefully I want to put your
[20:19]
names in like in the hat. So, for sure,
[20:22]
>> and it's a great place to start. You
[20:25]
learn a lot of the graph work.
[20:26]
>> Takes a lot of uh
[20:29]
courage and a lot of giving to even put
[20:32]
your name in the hat and willingness to
[20:34]
do this because it's not fun and you get
[20:36]
a lot of criticism. I would say one
[20:38]
thing on the planning commission.
[20:40]
Bradley is probably the best leader we
[20:42]
ever had.
[20:43]
>> Good. Thank you. That's good. That's
[20:45]
good.
[20:48]
[laughter]
[20:53]
» Take my hat off to his predecessor too.
[20:55]
He was in the office when there was a
[20:57]
lot of tough stuff going on. I I can't
[20:59]
remember his name right off the top of
[21:00]
my head, but I just ran into the other
[21:02]
day.
[21:02]
>> Oh, Alan.
[21:03]
>> Allan. He really did a great job, too.
[21:06]
He was here under a lot of duress, man.
[21:08]
>> A lot of problems.
[21:09]
>> There was a lot of problems, a lot of
[21:10]
things going on. So,
[21:13]
[laughter]
[21:15]
>> so there's no motion. We're good. All
[21:17]
right.
[21:18]
>> Welcome to the team, Lee. And we'll
[21:20]
swear you in. You can come in. Jenna
[21:21]
will work that out and you'll be
[21:22]
September's meeting. You'll be up here
[21:24]
with us.
[21:24]
>> Yeah. Your date takes effect August
[21:26]
31st. So, September 1st, you would be
[21:29]
appointed to come in and see me if you
[21:31]
want before the meeting or what not. or
[21:33]
we could do it right before the meeting
[21:34]
or at the meeting, whatever work for
[21:36]
you.
[21:36]
>> Okay, sounds good.
[21:37]
>> Thank you.
[21:38]
>> All right, we're going to roll into item
[21:39]
number eight. Um, open up discussion and
[21:43]
action. Item number eight, resolution
[21:44]
R-2026-27
[21:47]
amending the water conservation plan.
[21:49]
So, if you guys had this to look over
[21:52]
the reason for this for
[21:53]
>> I was overwhelmed.
[21:55]
>> Yeah, it's a lot. So, there's what we've
[21:58]
done. What I've done to preh propose to
[22:01]
you guys is first we get pressure from
[22:04]
the state obviously to put some
[22:05]
conservation in and I've tried to avoid
[22:07]
it as long as possible. I was I think
[22:09]
there was two towns cities in all of
[22:11]
Utah that had not implemented water
[22:13]
conservation. Some looked at that as a
[22:16]
bad thing and were thinking that we were
[22:18]
incompetent and I took it as a pride
[22:20]
that we were able to avoid it this long
[22:22]
but I can't avoid it any longer. Um,
[22:25]
we're not in strict water u restrict
[22:28]
restrictions right now, but this gives
[22:30]
us some stages. And what the stages can
[22:32]
do uh right now when we have an
[22:34]
emergency that I'm trying to text
[22:36]
people, this is what I need you guys to
[22:38]
do. We're putting on Facebook, it'll be
[22:39]
much easier to say we're in stage one,
[22:41]
we're in stage two, we have an
[22:42]
emergency, we're in stage four. It's
[22:44]
going to be posted on the website. No
[22:46]
questions. You guys can go right there
[22:47]
and say this is where we're at. So stage
[22:51]
one is pretty much just normal. There's
[22:53]
really no restrictions. a little bit of
[22:54]
common sense. Stage two is where I think
[22:57]
we are right now and where I will once
[22:59]
if this passes that's where we'll put
[23:01]
us. Um you guys will have access to
[23:03]
that. Not a lot of restrictions, a lot
[23:05]
more common sense. Watch us watching
[23:07]
construction water. Stage three rolls
[23:09]
into a water crisis. Um that would be
[23:12]
that you know we got a well down or the
[23:15]
aquifers drawn air or something like
[23:18]
that. Stage four is the old craft mahoot
[23:22]
and that's when we're going to roll into
[23:24]
you can't spare a drop of water. There's
[23:26]
no outside watering. You're taking
[23:27]
showers. You're we're in bad shape.
[23:29]
Probably similar what happened out in
[23:31]
Cedar. I mean they didn't have a choice.
[23:33]
There was no water out there. What that
[23:34]
three four years ago? Um very similar to
[23:37]
what we just did when I had the wells go
[23:38]
down and the aquafers dropped. So
[23:42]
the bad news is what comes with that.
[23:45]
And I'll explain this as best I can. So,
[23:47]
if we have to do this short term's not a
[23:49]
problem. If we have to do this long
[23:52]
term, if I have to say we're going to be
[23:53]
in stage three for the next year and we
[23:56]
vote and we say we're going to be in
[23:57]
stage three for next year. The issue
[23:59]
with that is it doesn't get cheaper to
[24:02]
run the water department. I still have
[24:03]
to have my water operator. We still have
[24:05]
to fix pipes. We have to pay the
[24:07]
electrical. We have to do all that. If
[24:09]
we cut our water usage in half, what
[24:12]
happens? The water department is 100%
[24:15]
funded by the water users and the rates.
[24:18]
So if we cut the income in half,
[24:21]
someone has to pay for that. And I'm
[24:23]
sorry to say that's the water users. So
[24:26]
it's the kick is not only do we put you
[24:28]
in water conservation and say you have
[24:30]
to conserve water and use half the
[24:31]
amount of water you were using before,
[24:34]
now you're going to have to pay a little
[24:35]
extra because we don't have enough money
[24:37]
because you're conserving water and
[24:38]
doing what you're supposed to do. You're
[24:39]
going to have to pay a little more. Now,
[24:41]
the way I've structured this is it will
[24:42]
not hit people that conserve water. The
[24:45]
flat rate stays the same. I'm not I
[24:47]
don't propose we change that. I propose
[24:49]
we're hitting in the upper tiers. So,
[24:51]
the people that say I have a business to
[24:54]
run or people that say f you or people
[24:56]
that do whatever, they're going to pay
[24:58]
the difference. Um so, the very first
[25:01]
we'll have different this was only for
[25:03]
stage three and stage four. We don't
[25:04]
need that for stage two. Those are
[25:06]
regular water rates and it would only be
[25:08]
again longterm. If I'm going to say,
[25:09]
"Oh, we're going to put everyone in
[25:11]
stage four because we have a well went
[25:12]
down and for we're going to be in stage
[25:13]
four for a week. We're not implementing
[25:15]
that silly." This is for long term.
[25:18]
Hopefully, hopefully hopefully it never
[25:19]
comes to that, but I want to be prepared
[25:22]
um for that. So, that's basically what
[25:25]
this is is adding some different stages.
[25:28]
Every town has this and other than two
[25:30]
of us that didn't have it, um they also
[25:32]
have implemented this. So, I didn't
[25:35]
reinvent the wheel. Um I'm not that guy.
[25:38]
I went to other towns, other cities. I
[25:40]
got ideas and I put our own together
[25:41]
that applies to us. Um, obviously I
[25:44]
don't say no water in the golf courses
[25:46]
because we don't have a golf course. So,
[25:48]
um, I kind of broke it down to apply to
[25:50]
us and
[25:51]
>> but but last week you could have been
[25:53]
jet skiing over circle if you wanted to.
[25:56]
>> Is that [clears throat] the truth? Went
[25:57]
from no water to too much water. So,
[25:59]
that's what this is. This is just a tool
[26:01]
to help us if something goes down and we
[26:03]
have emergencies and stuff like that. Do
[26:07]
you guys have any questions? I'm sure
[26:08]
you read through it. You got questions.
[26:10]
>> Whisy's for drinking. Water's for
[26:12]
fighting.
[26:13]
>> That's right. Ain't that the truth?
[26:14]
>> We live in the desert. If you look on a
[26:16]
global scale, there's water shortages
[26:18]
everywhere in the world right now. We're
[26:20]
really going through some serious times.
[26:22]
>> Sure.
[26:22]
>> So, we really need to be conservative
[26:24]
and in [clears throat] and reward your
[26:27]
reward for that is we're going to charge
[26:28]
you more.
[26:29]
>> Yeah. No kidding. Like I said,
[26:31]
>> that's the reality.
[26:32]
>> Hope nothing ever happens and hope it's
[26:34]
not long term.
[26:36]
I'm I'm very on top of this. I would say
[26:39]
the water is 90% of the mayor's job,
[26:41]
unfortunately. So, yes,
[26:44]
>> it's 90% of the whole public
[26:46]
>> department's job. It really is. Yeah,
[26:47]
>> it really is.
[26:48]
>> So, any questions you guys down there?
[26:56]
» All right, move the motion. Scott Taylor
[26:58]
move we approve resolution number
[27:00]
R-202026-27
[27:03]
amending the water conservations plan.
[27:07]
>> Roll call vote.
[27:09]
>> I bar.
[27:10]
>> Scott Taylor I.
[27:11]
>> Richard.
[27:12]
>> Motion carries. On to item number nine.
[27:15]
Uh open up discussion action for
[27:16]
resolution number R-2026-28
[27:19]
amending fee schedule with emergency
[27:20]
water rates and exhibit A. Basically
[27:22]
this is what we just voted on. Now we
[27:24]
have to put it on the fee schedule. So
[27:26]
that's pretty simple. We did a voter on
[27:27]
it,
[27:28]
>> but we have to vote to put it on the fee
[27:30]
schedule, too. So,
[27:32]
>> Scott move we approve resolution number
[27:35]
R-202026-28
[27:37]
amending fee schedule with emergency
[27:39]
water rates and exhibit A.
[27:42]
>> Second.
[27:43]
>> Roll call vote.
[27:44]
>> Kevin s I
[27:45]
>> Mike Fer.
[27:46]
>> Scott Taylor I
[27:47]
>> Richard Palmer I
[27:48]
>> motion carries on number 10 resolution
[27:51]
number R-2026-29
[27:53]
amend title 01.20.03
[27:56]
030 bulk meter. Basically, it's a pretty
[27:59]
simple one, too. We are changing the
[28:01]
deposit to $2,000 from $1,000 for a bulk
[28:04]
meter. And the reason is that is it
[28:06]
hasn't been changed forever. And bulk
[28:07]
meters don't cost $1,000 anymore.
[28:09]
They're $2,000. So, we have to have a
[28:11]
deposit to cover our bulk meter in case
[28:13]
it gets lost or stolen. We are covered.
[28:16]
Um, we put some wording in there. No, I
[28:19]
think that was it. Oh, yeah. And then,
[28:20]
uh, if your water pipe, let me see, what
[28:22]
was this? Okay. If the meter's lost or
[28:24]
stolen, we keep your deposit and you
[28:26]
have to pay a 100,000 up to 100,000
[28:30]
gallons of water usage because if you've
[28:32]
lost the meter, we obviously don't know
[28:33]
how much water you used.
[28:34]
>> I thought you were going to say 100,000
[28:36]
cash.
[28:36]
>> No, 100,000 gallons of water. 8,000
[28:38]
gallons of water. And that's and I know
[28:40]
some people be going, "Oh my gosh,
[28:41]
that's a lot. That's not a lot when
[28:43]
you're dealing with bulk water." Yes,
[28:44]
ma'am. Go ahead.
[28:44]
>> Just to confirm, we've already changed
[28:46]
this. I just noticed in the code section
[28:48]
it wasn't uh changed. So, it's we're
[28:51]
changing the
[28:51]
>> Yes, I should have add that. Thank you.
[28:53]
No, it's okay.
[28:55]
>> So, we've already voted on this. We just
[28:56]
I guess I should have said this is
[28:58]
housekeeping. We just sometimes we find
[29:00]
other places that it's written that we
[29:01]
didn't catch.
[29:03]
>> Yes, ma'am.
[29:04]
>> On number nine, uh the one on the
[29:08]
conservation, number nine, the number
[29:11]
eight, actually, I think, um the water
[29:13]
conservation plan, doesn't it need to go
[29:16]
back to the division of drinking water
[29:17]
for approval when you make an amendment
[29:20]
to it? Does it have to be approved by
[29:21]
them initially?
[29:23]
>> I don't know. I'll find out. I don't
[29:25]
think so.
[29:28]
>> I'll find out
[29:28]
>> because like for our Yeah. Like our
[29:30]
loans and things that be
[29:32]
>> Yeah.
[29:35]
>> And it had to go through.
[29:37]
>> Okay. Thanks for the reminder. I will
[29:39]
find out.
[29:41]
>> Wouldn't be hard to do. So, we're
[29:43]
perfectly fine doing that. Okay. All
[29:46]
right. Back to item number 10. If you
[29:47]
guys have any questions, I guess it's
[29:49]
just a housekeeping.
[29:51]
>> I make a motion we approve resolution
[29:53]
number R-202026-29
[29:56]
29 a minute title 01.20.030
[30:01]
voltmeters.
[30:02]
>> Second.
[30:02]
>> Roll call vote.
[30:04]
>> Kevin sir I
[30:05]
>> Mike Fer.
[30:05]
>> Scott Taylor I
[30:06]
>> Richard Palmer I
[30:08]
>> motion carries. On item number 10
[30:09]
ordinance number 0-2026-8
[30:12]
revised procurement ordinance.
[30:14]
Basically, we have a new employee, uh,
[30:18]
her name's Lady K that works for
[30:20]
Michelle, and this was one of her
[30:21]
projects. We said, "We need you to take
[30:23]
our procurement and check it against
[30:26]
state laws and get this, uh, procurement
[30:28]
policies and ordinances flowing better
[30:30]
and just make sure we're state
[30:33]
compliant. I think we put some emergency
[30:34]
provisions in there." Um,
[30:37]
>> yeah, a lot of it was based off of the
[30:39]
federal grant that we're getting
[30:41]
required to have specific types of
[30:44]
government rules and so we needed to
[30:46]
have those added into
[30:48]
>> That's right. Can you just mention what
[30:51]
a couple of those might be?
[30:53]
>> Well, we just had to have it like
[30:55]
current that we have just was not
[30:58]
comprehensive enough basically.
[31:02]
>> Yeah, the changes are in green. It's a
[31:04]
lot, but it's mainly just wording. I
[31:06]
don't really think we changed too many
[31:08]
policies. In fact, I don't really think
[31:10]
we changed any policies. It was a lot of
[31:11]
wording and making sure we were
[31:13]
compliant with state guidelines.
[31:14]
>> Yes, most of it was just um
[31:17]
incorporating like the information that
[31:19]
we needed for those and then also
[31:21]
creating like the different tiers for
[31:24]
specific types of procurement. So
[31:26]
whenever we need like a sole source or
[31:28]
when we needed to have like um different
[31:31]
types of approval then at what stage
[31:33]
those approval required and we had also
[31:36]
lost some of our policies on the last
[31:38]
time they did a procurement change and
[31:40]
so we were we're just going through that
[31:42]
everything is there that we
[31:45]
>> but you're right I forgot the main
[31:46]
reason was is because for the grant that
[31:49]
some of any of the grants we apply for
[31:51]
there this want this and we have one
[31:52]
grant that is specifically saying we
[31:54]
need to have this in there so That's was
[31:56]
the main driving force behind it.
[31:58]
>> I make a motion we approve ordinance
[32:00]
number 0-2026-18
[32:03]
the revised procurement procurement
[32:06]
ordinance. That's a tongue twister.
[32:08]
>> Roll call vote
[32:09]
>> s I.
[32:10]
>> Mike for I
[32:13]
>> motion carries on item number 12
[32:14]
resolution number R-2026-30
[32:17]
adoption of administration procurement
[32:19]
procedures manual. Now this is the same
[32:20]
thing but it's in in the manual right
[32:22]
Michelle or
[32:23]
>> Yeah. So this one is basically so we
[32:25]
don't have to amend enforcements every
[32:27]
time and have public hearings and stuff
[32:29]
to do. So this one is just kind of like
[32:32]
the policies of how we're going to
[32:34]
manage it in house and the council just
[32:36]
has to approve approve it without public
[32:39]
hearing and all that kind of stuff. So
[32:40]
it's easier to make changes to um if we
[32:42]
find that it's not working for us.
[32:46]
>> Sounds good. Any question?
[32:50]
» I make a motion. We approve resolution
[32:53]
number R-202026-30,
[32:56]
the adoption of the administrative
[32:57]
procurement procedures manual.
[33:00]
>> Second.
[33:01]
>> Roll call vote.
[33:02]
>> Kevin Sar I.
[33:03]
>> Mike Per I.
[33:04]
>> Scott Taylor I.
[33:05]
>> Richard Palmer I.
[33:06]
>> Motion carries. On to consent agenda. Uh
[33:09]
we have item number three, the minutes
[33:10]
from July 15, 2026, town council hearing
[33:13]
meeting. Item number 14, the
[33:14]
dispersement listing for July 2026. Item
[33:17]
number 15, the budget report for fiscal
[33:18]
year 2027 through July 2026. And item
[33:22]
number 16, July 2026 water usage
[33:25]
comparison. I'm sure you've all looked
[33:27]
through it. There was a couple things I
[33:29]
wanted to point out just to go on video
[33:31]
in case someone looks at this in the
[33:32]
future. They don't have to bug me and
[33:34]
ask me. If you see a very big expense
[33:36]
for cleft drilling and pump, that is
[33:38]
obviously when we had our emergency
[33:41]
uh wells go down and we paid them
[33:44]
$36,910.
[33:46]
And also Southwest sells service and
[33:48]
pumps $25,795.94.
[33:51]
That was also that same emergency for
[33:54]
the new pump and motor and all that good
[33:57]
stuff. So that's kind of I don't point
[33:59]
out all the stuff that's the normal
[34:01]
something that's abnormal. I like to
[34:03]
point out so I don't get a bunch of
[34:04]
calls tomorrow and next week.
[34:05]
>> We blew the water budget out right out
[34:08]
of the well.
[34:08]
>> Blew that one. Yes, sir.
[34:10]
>> Dan's work. Dan said he'd work for free
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for the next five years. help me. It's
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going to take a while.
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» The um Utah local government's trust
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>> that one is because we've had to com
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we've now combined the the district's
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insurance rate with the town and societ.
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» Okay. Same amount just combined, right?
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>> Any other questions about the I mean the
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budget just started so there's not a lot
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of questions. The fiscal year just
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>> We're looking good so far. Yeah, we're
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good. We're good so far. One month in
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and we're doing great.
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>> Guys want a motion.
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>> I move we approve the consent agenda 13,
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14, 15, and 16.
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>> All in favor?
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>> I
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>> All right, let's do that again because I dropped the ball. All in favor?
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>> I motion carries. Um, no close session
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needed. Someone wants a message for
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>> motion we adjourn.
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>> Second.
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>> All in favor?
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>> I motion carries. Meeting adjourned.