[0:01] Okay, I've got uh 5:' uh 52025 Attica City Board of Works and

[0:07] Safety. Go ahead and call the meeting to order. If the clerk would please do roll

[0:12] call. Uh Chris Gayler present. Andy Smart present. Mr. Larry Grant present.

[0:20] Clerk treasurer Joanne Bradwater not

[0:25] present. and attorney Mallerie Redland is not present.

[0:34] Uh, does everybody have a chance to look at the meetings uh minutes from the last

[0:38] meeting? 56.

[0:43] Yes. I'll make a motion we approve the minutes from previous meeting and I'll

[0:47] second. Have a motion, a second. All in favor? I.

[0:57] Uh, are there any citizens petitions? Is that Can I speak? That's

[1:02] you. Please state your name. Tony Crane. And I I'm on behalf of my mother's

[1:08] property and I I hope I'm going through the proper channels of what I'm supposed

[1:12] to be doing because I I talked to the Mickey and her crew and I talked to

[1:17] Larry, talked to Eric, and I I got all the answers that I needed. Everybody was

[1:21] cooperative. I appreciate everybody's answers. They just weren't to my liking,

[1:25] I guess. I'll put it that way. So, I'm and I think I was told to come you guys

[1:30] to uh appeal what I'm what I'm asking for. My mother has two

[1:36] water what I don't know water mains. One is for her regular home and then she has

[1:41] one for her just her sprinkling system. And I'm just trying to over the last

[1:47] three or four years I've kind of been helping maintain her bills and taking

[1:50] them. So I I wasn't real familiar with what went on before, but I know the

[1:54] previous two years for her. Let me try back. What happens at the start of the

[1:59] year, I think it's called long shrub. They call us and they say, "You need to

[2:03] have your water turned on. We're going to come down blow your lines out." So I

[2:06] called out the city. City right to work order. They come down, turn the water on

[2:10] for me. Then the next day, Long and Sh comes and blows out. Um this past year

[2:15] or this past time, they did it on right at the end of the month, the end of

[2:21] March, maybe in April sometime. I use two gallons of water and they I'm

[2:26] getting charged the minimum 68 bucks for that. My my concern with that is my

[2:32] mother's always already paying one minimum with her house. The water is a

[2:37] separate system. She's using two gallons. This has never came up in the

[2:41] in the past two or three years for me when since I've been looking at this

[2:44] because for some reason she gets her water bill for this particular one. She

[2:48] got in one month sum at the end like in September is a $500 or $600 bill at that

[2:53] time. So I'm not sure if she was charged a minimum all that time. But what I'm

[2:58] asking for is and I think honestly I think she's probably the only property

[3:02] in Attica. So we're not talking about a lot of people. I think what I'm asking

[3:06] is that if if in the future you're going to read meters all

[3:11] the time. I thought you know the sprinkling starts at whatever I didn't

[3:14] think they would read the meter. What is it? June 1st for June, July, August.

[3:20] Well, they take a read on when they go turn it on. Okay. Um, and if that's the

[3:25] case in the future, then I will make sure that I don't have the people come

[3:29] down from Lafayette to turn that on and I have to turn on the water early

[3:32] because I'm not even using it now. It's just they call said we're setting up.

[3:35] They they do mine and they do the Harrison properties and that's I think

[3:39] that's the only ones they do. So, I'm kind of felt like I was at their mercy

[3:43] that we're coming down. We need to do it. Uh if if that has in the future if

[3:47] that happens, I'll tell them I can't do it now. I'm going have to turn the water

[3:50] on later. You're going have to come down and do it. What I'm asking for then is

[3:53] that for this bill and my next bill, which is obviously I'm not going to have

[3:56] any water for that one either to to those to those fees get waved. Um just

[4:01] for those two things in the in the future, I'll make sure that not not turn

[4:04] it on. Um but like I said, she's going to get charged $70 for two months of

[4:10] using no water when she's already paying a minimum on her on her own property.

[4:15] Um, so I feel like she's she's paying two

[4:18] minimums. Um, as far as the consumption goes, can

[4:23] they cons convert her just to one meter? Well, I was told when they set this up,

[4:28] now I'm going by I'm trying to because, you know, my dad's not here anymore to

[4:31] tell me what was going on, but they said don't do that because then you're you

[4:34] don't pay sewer. I'm not paying. Is that Does that make sense? I'm not paying It

[4:39] does make sense. Okay. So that was at that time when this set up it was like

[4:43] you it's better to have two lines but for June, July and August you don't pay

[4:47] sewer extra on sewer anyway because you get sprinkling

[4:52] privileges. So they they estimate your sewer for June, July and August. Am I am

[4:57] I right about that Mickey? So it it's it's moot point really well but for

[5:04] those three months anyway. Well the bill basically just it doesn't even have it

[5:07] has water and tax. That's all I'm getting charged for anyways. But it's

[5:11] for two gallons of water, 70 bucks. I just think that and I'm gonna get the

[5:15] same thing next month. And I just like I said, it's we're not talking a bunch of

[5:20] people. I think we're probably talking about one family. Um and I'm just going

[5:24] to ask that to get waved for those two months. And then I'm going to make sure

[5:27] that next year that it it doesn't start until if if you guys are going to read

[5:32] me because I think even you mentioned to me Larry um something about they don't

[5:36] for sprinkling they don't read the meters right now. Is it when you sent me

[5:41] that text or sent that text to Kaylee something about

[5:45] Yeah. I don't remember exactly why you said well if if you don't don't worry

[5:48] about it till June I'd had to pay back I'd had May

[5:52] April and May in June. I mean, the clock starts whenever you have it turned on,

[5:57] okay, for your minimum billing, whether you use it

[6:01] or not. It's It's like I told you, if you go rent a car, you're paying for it

[6:05] even if it's parked in your driveway. And it's kind of the same thing. But if

[6:09] they're not reading the beavers, that's what I'm You said something about they

[6:12] don't read them until starting in June. Now, that I don't know, but they it'll

[6:17] be read monthly. If it's turned on, they should go read it even even for

[6:21] sprinkling. Yeah. Okay. Yep. because they they don't the guys that are out

[6:27] reading don't differentiate between correct me if I'm wrong they don't

[6:30] differentiate between this meter and that meter to them it's just another

[6:35] meter that's on their list to go read okay and once it's active once it's

[6:40] activated then when the um gun is ready you know being ready for Zach or Chuck

[6:47] or whoever to go out and read it pulls in every active account so so I I

[6:53] basically I triggered that by telling you to turn it on. Yes. And I was

[6:56] triggered by them telling me that turn on. And like I said, I've done this in

[7:00] the past and I've called down and I turned it on. I've never had this in

[7:03] before because I always got bill at the end of the cycle. So maybe I was getting

[7:07] charged. I just never knew it. But my my point being is I I was unaware of it. I

[7:13] if that's going to be what the case is going forward, then I'll make sure and

[7:15] not do it next year. And if I do, then I'm it's under my I'll I'll have to pay

[7:21] for it then. I kind of unaware of this. And Tony, if there's a two listed there,

[7:27] that meter would read in hundreds. Is that correct?

[7:33] WW2, is that what you're saying for the code? When you keep saying two gallons

[7:37] were used. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, it says consumption two. Okay, that would be

[7:41] 200. Okay. Well, she I mean, basically, they did they they she's got five cycles

[7:47] and they turn them on and just watch the cycle go through one time. So yeah, two

[7:52] gallon may have been a lot more than that. 200 gallon.

[7:57] So I mean I because I think the minimum is is

[8:01] what 3,000 gallons.

[8:06] So I just like I said my my point being is she's she's getting charged I feel

[8:11] like two minimums for one household. And I

[8:15] just if if not I'll I'll it's a lesson learned and I'll I'll handle it next

[8:20] year. But if you can accommodate that, I'd appreciate it. How much is it, Tony?

[8:25] Uh her bill this month is 6815 for um up until April 16th. It it it says from

[8:33] 9:30 of 24, which is probably when we have shut off 416 25. So I'm sure 516

[8:40] I'm going to get another bill for that same amount. And

[8:46] I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I just just, you know, I don't

[8:50] necessarily have a problem with giving me the credit just to next year, next

[8:55] year, you'll know. Right. Well, I mean, absolutely. And I mean, I it'll be on

[9:00] the company that comes down and tells me said, "Hey, we got to do it now and say,

[9:03] I'm not going to do it." Right. Right. You do it all when I turn the water on.

[9:06] And so, I mean, I I'm okay with waving at this time. If whatever you guys

[9:11] think, what's your opinion? I'm I'm fine with that, too.

[9:15] Is that a motion? I'll make a motion. I'll second. All in favor? I I

[9:22] Okay. And I apologize for the the trouble. Um but it is what it is. It's

[9:29] kind of, you know, you got you got an 85y old mother, you know, kind of right

[9:33] cracking at me a little bit and she just says, "You jacked on that water bill?"

[9:38] It's like go back and be a hero now. She

[9:42] probably didn't realize what she was paying for either. You know, she's the

[9:46] one kind of brought this to my attention. She said, "I'm going I got

[9:49] two here and I've got church 70 bucks." I like I said, I plan on a fee

[9:53] throughout the whole year, but I didn't I didn't think it would be this early.

[9:55] So, I appreciate the next two months and I I'll I'll handle from now on and I'm

[10:00] sorry about the trouble. No problem. No problem at all. Thanks for coming

[10:04] in. All right. Okay. And Mickey, I think that's

[10:09] automatically deducted and it's probably too late for this month. So, I don't

[10:12] know how you just let me know what's easiest for you guys and I'll I'll

[10:15] handle it. So, that way we have to credit it over to something else. We can

[10:19] or whatever. So, I don't want to cause you guys any more

[10:22] trouble. Yeah. Because it would have been taken out today. Today, I noticed

[10:28] today.

[10:33] That's how I keep it from getting disconnected.

[10:37] That's so it's so much easier to have it

[10:40] automatically taken out. You looked at you know what I'm talking about her line

[10:44] as far is that a one inch line too by the way for the sprinkling system. Not

[10:49] for sure because I think I'm sure it

[10:54] probably is because of what the minimum is. I mean the minimum is like 64 bucks.

[11:00] So I I I I would want to make sure that be three quarter, right? The uh well the

[11:05] three quarters it cuts it down considerably. Yeah, the three quarter

[11:08] and 5/8 is like 20ome dollars and when you jump to the one inch it's

[11:15] $60 something. Does it make any difference what this code is? I mean

[11:19] does does that distinguish whether it's a one inch line as opposed to something

[11:22] else? It says like all my per says W1, this says W2. Is that I think the W2 is

[11:30] it's just a second water line. Yeah. Okay. Well, I just I I would if it's not

[11:37] too much trouble, somebody can look at that to see if that is make sure that is

[11:40] a one in line. on.

[11:50] Yeah, it took me a little studying to figure out if you look at that ordinance

[11:55] that that outlines how much the minimum bill is for each one. It's a little bit

[12:01] convoluted. The only thing I can figure is is the larger, and correct me if I'm

[12:05] wrong, the larger meter that you have, the more capacity you have. So

[12:10] therefore, you know, if you've got a a business that's using a lot of water,

[12:16] uh you're going to want that larger meter. You don't want to be restricted.

[12:20] Correct. And so if if if you're running a I don't know, some place that a

[12:25] restaurant that uses a lot of water, you wouldn't want that 5/8 meter in there.

[12:31] You'd want something larger, I guess.

[12:36] Okay, we'll go ahead and move forward. Uh department heads, Mr. Swank. I don't

[12:40] have anything. Wow. None at all. Nothing at all.

[12:47] Okay. Chief Little is not here. Chief Miller is not here. Uh I don't list any

[12:54] unfinished business. We'll go ahead and move on to utility

[13:01] credits. One. Everything is correct. All right. I'll make a motion we approve

[13:05] utility credits. Oh, second. All in favor? I I

[13:16] payroll ledger. Anything we could Mickey?

[13:21] Anything? I'll make a motion we approve payroll ledger. I'll second. Motion in a

[13:25] second. All in favor? I I.

[13:31] There are no disconnects tonight. Uh claims. Has everybody had a chance to

[13:35] look at claims? Yes. I'll make a motion. And I'll second. Have a motion to

[13:41] second. All in favor? I

[13:49] And there is a second sheet here. I should note that I guess

[13:55] additional. Yeah. Doesn't look like anything out of

[13:59] the order. Fill that in without claims. All right. Or do you want a second

[14:05] motion? Is it I think that's good.

[14:11] You want to make a second? I'll make a second motion. Yeah, let's go ahead and

[14:15] just make sure we do our eyes. Okay. And I'll second that. Have a motion and a

[14:19] second to approve the additional claims. And I call for

[14:27] vote. I

[14:32] I passes.

[14:36] Uh, no additional miscellaneous business to be

[14:41] heard. Next meeting is Tuesday, June 3rd at 5:00 p.m. We have a motion to

[14:46] adjurnn. I'll make a motion to adjurnn and I'll second. All in favor? I

[14:51] adjourned.

Board of Works 05-20-2025

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