Augusta Charter Township BOT Meeting 8/25/26 5 of 5 MVI 0131

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[0:00] met.
[0:03] Um and they'll go through a final planning uh site review upon their
[0:09] completion.
[0:12] And I know junkyard passed their site
[0:17] fire code review. The other one we can't discuss, but I
[0:21] will like say
[0:24] Riding, you come up here and make these assumptions cuz you know we cannot reply
[0:29] and but please make them accurate and true.
[0:32] That's all I got to say. >> And also um in regards to Brothers Auto,
[0:39] they did not have to go back to the planning commission. They are
[0:42] non-conformant. You cannot take a non-conformant away because of the fire.
[0:46] It's a Michigan state law. That's the law. So and I did make sure
[0:51] that Robert got caught up. >> go through planning cuz it's a
[0:55] non-conformant site. >> Right. They do not have to go through
[0:57] planning because it is a non-conformant and it has been
[1:01] went through the county. Everything's been done correctly.
[1:05] » And what happens too, that I've said this before and I stated it out once and
[1:08] I'll state it again. Had we have a fought this man and not
[1:12] allowed him to replace his building, right? One, we'd have been in the wrong.
[1:18] Two, Lance Confection, the gas station, the
[1:22] restaurant, township hall, any of the uh the grocery store in town or liquor
[1:27] store, whatever you want to call it, all these buildings, if they were to burn
[1:31] down, you can't rebuild them if we were allowed to him
[1:35] if we had not allowed him to rebuild. If you can't rebuild, you can't get
[1:39] insurance. You cannot get the place to you can't
[1:42] get anybody to finance you if you try to buy or sell a place.
[1:46] So that's just completely is a complete asinine ordeal that thank God we got
[1:52] rectified. >> Yeah. Well, it's it's plain as day. It's
[1:57] uh Look at the Michigan State Law. It's
[1:59] very clear. You cannot take away a non-conformance because of a fire.
[2:04] Very clear. Black and white.
[2:13] » Once again, our zoning ordinance cannot override state law.
[2:17] » Yeah, doesn't matter what the township ordinance said if it doesn't comply with
[2:21] the state law. That's not the You the law's going to the Michigan
[2:26] State Law is going to supersede the township every time. Just like the
[2:29] county's going to supersede the township.
[2:32] Local, county, federal, state, federal. >> And another thing that's of dire
[2:37] importance, it's very important that this gets told.
[2:43] They the fire chief is asking for help. He needs men, boots on the ground.
[2:50] And you and and to I vote I vote for his uh
[2:56] millage get passed. He need they need help because on multiple occasions he's
[3:01] come to the aid of my mother who's passed away now, but thank God they were
[3:05] there. There's a lot of people in this community
[3:09] that one man in his striving 40s
[3:14] needs help to do. Uh
[3:17] uh he needs help. And there's no other way around it. The only time you're
[3:20] going to piss and moan and cry, I said it I
[3:24] did good. Wrong time anybody's going to complain and cry is when they need that
[3:28] help and nobody's there. So it needs to be that it's very very
[3:34] important that he's asking for money and finances
[3:38] for more men on the ground. >> I just want to make one comment on that.
[3:45] The chief is asking to help us. You know, it's not to help him, right?
[3:50] He's asking to help the community. That That helped him personally. He's coming
[3:54] here every time. He's talking to people. He's doing a great job of explaining
[3:58] what's needed for us. >> That's right.
[4:01] » What were you saying Sue about >> Well, I got two things. So, Pete, yeah.
[4:06] So, you're going to do the math on this, so I need to answer your question about
[4:09] 1 or 2 years. >> [laughter]
[4:12] » Since you're not going to do the math, I'm not going to explain it. But,
[4:15] actually >> I'll come in I'll come in and see you.
[4:18] » Okay. >> I'll be
[4:19] » Because I I can tell you what we did for this situation to to get the maximum
[4:26] benefit out out of our water loss that's just in its infancy.
[4:31] That, you know, it's been lowered for, you know, 5 months, so.
[4:34] » I'll I'll come in and see you. >> And we did I think we did good. So, I
[4:38] want to ask Keith, you made in your report that the
[4:42] planning commission went through two pages.
[4:45] » Four. >> Four.
[4:47] » Oh, Facebook, too. >> So, how many How many pages is that data
[4:52] center ordinance that they're reviewing? And how long have they been
[4:56] » It's like 20 20 something. They just started.
[5:00] And they have three more. >> And And And when did it start?
[5:04] » This was like last last week. >> This is the second
[5:08] This is >> This was first meeting next week. This
[5:12] last Wednesday. >> So, so
[5:14] » meeting we're going to have. >> So, we did not have the planner
[5:18] bring this up at our meeting and their meeting until last
[5:24] meeting. Like they just started on this.
[5:27] » Yeah. >> No, it's it's come up before.
[5:30] » Well, it came up before, but we're going to start reviewing it.
[5:34] » But, no, I mean, there was another ordinance that they said they
[5:38] Yeah, that they didn't agree with at all. So, then he went and
[5:43] found a different more suitable >> So, when was that?
[5:46] » That was months ago. >> Maybe 5
[5:50] April, May. 6 months ago.
[5:53] » So it's 20 pages and they went through two
[5:58] pages. So, what what what is the plan to go through this 20 pages?
[6:03] Do they have a plan? >> Yeah.
[6:05] » I mean, I'm concerned. I went to the planning commission and unfortunately
[6:09] this last meeting and I could not stay and I didn't I wanted to ask do you have
[6:15] an outline? Do you have a plan because I was a little concerned with we're going
[6:18] to do two pages at a time. But we can also go back and revisit
[6:24] if we're not sure later. So, we're going to we can circle back and Robert York
[6:29] said that three times and I was very concerned with that. Like
[6:33] this is going to be a circular I mean, what's going on? But anyway, 20
[6:38] pages and and so how long is it going to take to read
[6:41] » two sections for next month.
[6:46] Well, I don't have the whole thing.
[6:49] But that's like four six pages.
[6:54] » So, next time it's going to be five pages?
[6:57] » Yeah, right around there. >> Okay. So, it will take them
[7:02] » a year. >> A year to go through it all?
[7:08] » I don't know. >> Well, that's not set in stone, is it?
[7:10] Like you guys could, if you have time, go through more, right?
[7:14] » Yeah. I would hope so. >> I mean, can you talk to the board or um
[7:20] Joe or somebody and say, you know, like what's the timeline here?
[7:25] And how And how are I guess what threw me is like how are how is it only two
[7:29] pages and then how is it five pages? Like how are you parsing this out? Like
[7:33] what's the logic? Like is it because
[7:37] one subject was two pages and the The subject is five pages? like how are you
[7:43] » Yeah, next subject is five >> how many pages?
[7:46] » Five. >> Is that what it is?
[7:48] » yeah. >> Okay, so then we can guess how many
[7:53] sections are there. How many pages are going to parse the
[7:58] rest of this out? We're doing math.
[8:02] It's scary. Well, I I'm not you know
[8:07] We'll do a moratorium, but you know, this thing the whole point of the
[8:11] moratorium as you've all stated and you all know is to write an ordinance,
[8:14] right? >> only thing
[8:15] » So, we need to get that completed. >> That's the only thing you use a
[8:19] moratorium for. >> That's what you use it for. This is for
[8:23] that. Okay, that's on to
[8:26] I'll talk to Peter again. >> I can respond to the cell tower. They
[8:30] just got their soil erosion permit, so they're moving ahead.
[8:34] » They are moving ahead. Did you hear that?
[8:36] » Yeah, unfortunately I did, yeah. >> And Pete
[8:39] » And I got to say that >> And we didn't we didn't know nothing
[8:41] about >> It just It just came.
[8:43] » Actually, cuz the hold up was they were waiting on
[8:46] the fire review, right? >> Colin?
[8:50] » Did they pass the fire review? >> That That I don't know if they passed
[8:52] that, but I know they finally got their soil erosion.
[8:56] » The soil erosion is passed the site plan fire
[8:59] » Let's get out of here. You guys want to hang out a little longer, let's go home.
[9:10] » All in favor? >> I.