[0:00] See,

[0:16] I goes here.

[0:35] Right.

[1:03] for that. And there would have been probably about

[1:26] Yes. >> Are you doing the proclamation?

[1:29] » And I said something. >> Oh, I'm just I just brought a picture.

[1:34] Come up. Any excuse not to let you come.

[1:44] of the United States of the United States of America and to the republic

[1:48] for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[1:54] justice for all. And if we could please have a few moments of silence for Cookie

[1:58] Romo Reyes. [snorts]

[2:09] » Seated.

[2:17] » Are there any announcements or written communications?

[2:21] » Uh if we could do roll call real quick. >> Okay. Council member Delarosa

[2:26] » here. >> Council member Leau

[2:27] » here. >> Council member Lopez

[2:29] » here. >> Mayor Prompon

[2:30] » here. >> Mayor Marshall, [laughter]

[2:32] » I think I'm here. >> Okay. Are there any announcements or

[2:35] written communications? >> Uh, city staff received through written

[2:38] communications regarding item 6, CPU draft resolution T-17934.

[2:44] Copies have been distributed to city council and is on file uh in the city

[2:48] clerk's office. >> Thank you. Department head reports.

[2:58] Good afternoon, mayor, city council members, and city staff. Jackie

[3:02] Cordderero, public works director. Over the past couple of weeks, the public

[3:06] works crew has completed a variety of routine maintenance projects. Like

[3:10] they've been working really hard continuing street markings. I know I've

[3:14] been saying that for a while, but they're still doing that. Irrigation

[3:17] repairs, landscape work, pressure washing. Um, we did a lot of work

[3:21] leading up to the concert, the ABA concert, um, which I think, uh, really

[3:25] helped, uh, restroom plumbing repairs, park maintenance, and cemetery services.

[3:30] The crew also assisted with mole mole core drilling, saltwater leak at the

[3:35] trail head, metropolo excavation project, and the JMF T maintenance. They

[3:41] continue to repair Chip and Falls, installing finishing touches to the

[3:44] maintenance yard gate at um and fence and installing guardrail and lower

[3:49] terrace. The public works leadership team will be managing a couple of

[3:53] projects in the next month. Early October, we will have our annual tree

[3:56] trimming. More to come um at next council meeting. I'll be represent

[4:00] presenting a staff report on that. Uh best contracting service will be out

[4:05] this month starting on the two roofing projects we've been talking about. the

[4:09] lab roof at the wastewater treatment plant and the casino restroom showers

[4:14] roof. Um, any questions? >> I just have a question on the tree

[4:18] trimming and I believe I mentioned it to you that there might be someone that's

[4:21] willing to pay for the removal of those 80 60 80

[4:27] foot palm trees downtown that really don't provide shade. And I think you

[4:32] said you might have the the arborist or something look at those. Oh. Uh, the

[4:37] palm trees on Front Street, the really tall ones.

[4:39] » You Yeah, just that little bit of on the top. [clears throat]

[4:42] » Yes. Yes, we did get the assessment back. I haven't reviewed everything um

[4:46] that the arburist assessed. Um he that person did a ton and it's all documented

[4:52] and entered into our GIS, which is great. So, it gives a condition um if

[4:57] it's uh needs to be removed, uh what year it should be removed, all of that

[5:02] good stuff. So, I haven't looked at those, but um we will address them. They

[5:06] will be trimmed like normal, like every uh year we do that. And if it needs to

[5:11] be replaced, it will be replaced. >> Again, they just they're they're just a

[5:16] stick in the air, [laughter] you know. So, I don't see any value to them.

[5:20] » Yeah. >> In terms of that, so if we could get

[5:24] have somebody pay for planting of new kinds of trees that would work better,

[5:28] provide shade, and it it might be kind of nice.

[5:31] » Yeah. Just my opinion. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Any questions or comments?

[5:35] » Did you get a chance to talk to the city manager about the no rental golf carts

[5:40] or no ebikes up on East Ridley? >> Do you remember?

[5:45] » We did. We We have talked about that. We're looking at We have to work with

[5:49] sheriffs and also talk talk about whether or not that's something we can

[5:53] legally enforce. But yeah, I think I think there's certainly signage.

[5:56] » There's one sign up there says no rental golf carts and then the rest is what the

[6:00] neighbors have made. >> Yeah, I I think uh and that's part of

[6:03] what I'm going to talk about tonight is with code we're kind of focusing on

[6:07] Whitley right now um to try to take care of some things, but we're going to look

[6:10] at getting some signage up there. >> And Jackie, uh did the asphalt arrive a

[6:15] couple months ago? I wasn't sure if I wrote that incorrectly on my notes or

[6:19] are we going to start working on that? the asphalt the pilot program that I

[6:22] have um I have a PO uh waiting for signature from Dave on that one. I think

[6:28] we're going to talk it through but um yeah

[6:30] » Dave is that regarding >> asphalt

[6:34] » asphalt where >> yeah and start doing the the roads.

[6:37] » Oh well oh yeah I thought that was on the next year's calendar or something

[6:41] but >> well on Sumner you're talking about the

[6:43] Sumar. >> Oh just Sumner. Oh I see. Okay.

[6:46] » Yeah. which is the pilot program because we're doing um it's type two asphalt

[6:50] which is different than we've used in the past. So we want to see what it

[6:54] looks like um before we actually do the whole um town.

[6:58] » Oh, cool. Yeah. >> Okay.

[7:00] » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[7:10] » Good evening, mayor, council, city staff. Michael Aliggria, fire chief.

[7:16] In August, we had 103 143 total calls, 79 medical, 63 other. As of 4:00, we're

[7:25] at 914 for the year. >> Wow. The zone zero law passed a few

[7:30] weeks ago, so we'll get some more info on that um out soon to you guys about

[7:35] the things around the house, but it's a three to five year implementation.

[7:43] And then remind everyone, casino 8 am on 911 in the station at 11.

[7:50] And then just as a heads up, the the Catalina Island Health is redoing

[7:56] their CT machine, they're updating the guts of the inside. So So for those two

[8:01] weeks, instead of having to fly everybody over, they're bringing over a

[8:05] temporary trailer that's going to be just past the driveway. So, we're going

[8:09] to lose some parking for a week and a half or so at the school, but we've been

[8:14] in contact with them, but so we have a CP machine. We'll have traffic control,

[8:19] but for a few for about a week and a half, we'll have someone there with that

[8:23] trailer. Um, but that way we don't have to fly everybody. It's going to be

[8:27] emergency use only, but we're working with them on that.

[8:30] » And it'll be on that side. >> It'll be on the Yes. Right hand side

[8:34] going up. >> Okay. Excellent. Good.

[8:37] » Questions, comments? Yep. Thanks. Mhm.

[8:53] » Good evening, Mayor, Council, City Staff. Kevin Schmidt, Harbor Master.

[8:59] Hope everybody had a terrific Tuesday. Um right now in the harbor uh our

[9:05] biggest focus is forecast weather for the weekend. So I'm sure some of you may

[9:10] have heard um there's a south swell forecast uh for Labor Day. So luckily

[9:16] right now it's improving. The forecast has improved last you know between last

[9:20] night and this morning. Uh tomorrow we've already started but tomorrow the

[9:23] next Thursday you'll see us doing some stuff in the harbor preparing for that

[9:28] uh potential uh south swell. So, keep our fingers crossed, watching the

[9:33] weather and trying to keep everybody informed of what's going on. So,

[9:38] uh the Yach Club, just as a heads up, is having their end of, uh season ceremony

[9:43] on Saturday. Um regardless of South Swelling, um even though even with the

[9:50] weather forecast, we expect to have a very busy weekend. Again, Labor Day,

[9:55] kind of the symbolic, you know, end of summer, but we're still going to be

[9:58] busy. Uh the outrigger race is the following weekend that brings in a lot

[10:01] of boats. So we got a fishing tournament the war heroes on water. So summer's not

[10:07] quite over uh in the harbor. Uh stats wise [clears throat]

[10:12] for August of this year uh we ended up with 2352

[10:17] arrivals, 9,130

[10:21] moing nights. uh compared to last August, we had more arrivals uh this

[10:26] year, but fewer just slightly fewer uh total morning nights. So, uh but very

[10:31] close. Stats-wise, since our last get together, uh we've

[10:38] had three sites, uh four medicals, uh 38 enforcement calls, three LAD assists,

[10:47] 99 public assists, and three Coast Guard assists. Any questions?

[10:55] Okay, thank you.

[11:04] Good evening, Madame Mayor, esteemed council members, and uh city staff. I'm

[11:08] Sergeant Terry Bllelock of the Avalanche Sheriff Station Operations.

[11:12] » Just speak up just a little bit more. Thank you.

[11:14] » Sorry about that. >> That's okay.

[11:17] » I'll give you the stats for the month of uh of August. Deputies uh logged over

[11:21] 589 log entries, 397 observations,

[11:27] 188 calls for service. Uh they conducted uh 12 traffic stops, eight ped stops,

[11:33] six citations were issued, 14 warnings were uh giving, and three parking

[11:38] citations. Uh recently, we've had uh a few

[11:43] incidents that have uh been reported to our department. one ending in an arrest

[11:47] that was at uh 125 Metropole Avenue. It was a domestic violence situation where

[11:53] the victim sustained u some significant injuries to her face. Uh the suspect was

[11:58] uh placed under arrest and uh was booked at our station and uh later bonded out.

[12:03] Um, also deputies responded to a assault with a deadly weapon call. Uh, that was

[12:10] on uh this past uh Sunday and uh that was on um Sumar Avenue at one of the

[12:16] local bars. Uh apparently there was a melee and during the course um we

[12:21] identified at least uh three suspects that were involved and six victims. One

[12:26] of the victims sustained uh injuries to their ear and the charges that are going

[12:31] to be pending is going to be assault with the deadly weapon, battery, and

[12:35] man. >> Are those locals or visitors?

[12:38] » Uh combination of both. >> Okay.

[12:42] » Uh next, um we did have a report of a battery uh that occurred. It initially

[12:50] came out as a domestic violence uh that occurred uh right in the waterway. Um

[12:57] but it later determined through further investigation that it was just an

[13:00] assault and um victim is no longer desires of prosecution.

[13:06] » So what was the hallelu in front of the elento yesterday?

[13:10] » Excuse me. >> There was something going on in front of

[13:12] the elento yesterday. There was a gentleman standing there and there were

[13:15] four three of your vehicles and four of y'all were there. I was wondering what

[13:19] that was. >> Oh yes. Uh deputies responded to a call

[13:24] of a stolen uh golf cart. Uh suspect uh was uh located and uh they decided to

[13:32] handle it civily between the victim and the suspect and compensation was meant

[13:38] and uh victim was no longer desires of prosecution.

[13:40] » Oh, good. Thanks. Okay. Questions or comments?

[13:45] » I [clears throat] have a quick one. Do you know if Captain King has given the

[13:48] coalition for deer uh the audio tape and the sheriff's log for the gunshots? I

[13:56] think it was August 21st. >> Uh the question is regarding the phone

[14:00] calls that came in regarding uh gunshots. Is that was the question?

[14:04] [snorts] Uh I can tell you that um we did receive uh two calls that uh that

[14:11] came in. Currently there is a administrative investigation regarding

[14:15] the uh conduct and the information that was relayed during those uh those calls

[14:20] but uh from my what I understand that uh that there were no um I think

[14:25] [clears throat] it was in regard to some sort of abatement regarding deer. We

[14:28] were get we got confirmation that there was no um

[14:33] » Did you give the coalition they were asking for the audio tape from the phone

[14:38] call made that night and they were asking for the sheriff's log of where

[14:43] the sheriff's responded? So you don't know if that was given to them?

[14:48] » Uh I don't believe it was given at the time because there is an administrative

[14:51] investigating regarding the conduct of the the call.

[14:56] » Thank you. That was very thorough. >> You're welcome. Very much. Thank you.

[15:00] » And real quickly, uh, to Councilman Lopez's question, I spoke with Captain

[15:04] King today and asked that same question and he said it will be as soon as

[15:08] they're done with their internal investigation. So, he he is aware of the

[15:11] request.

[15:15] » Good evening, council. Matt Baker, finance director. Um, don't have a whole

[15:19] lot to report out. I did check at the July TOT numbers in July. Uh we're still

[15:25] compiling numbers, but it looks like we're going to be up for the month of

[15:28] July from July of last year. The next meeting I'll get the full revenue uh

[15:32] report out for the the month of July. Um but early signs look promising for for

[15:37] July revenues unless there's any questions.

[15:41] » Thank you.

[15:46] » Good evening, Madame Mayor Council. Um we have an update on the mobile LED

[15:52] screen. It's on the island. We have secured a spot and it's fully covered.

[15:56] We took it last Wednesday to several spots on Front Street where it fit where

[16:01] it would fit for events using an electric hand dolly. Um it fit

[16:04] incredibly well within the framework of our streets without impeding any traffic

[16:08] flow. Um there will be two events um that will be showcasing the screening

[16:14] this September. Um one will be the Catalina Crossing and two will be the

[16:18] Catalina Film Festival. That's right, the festival season is here in Avalon.

[16:23] This month alone, we have three festivals coming. We have the se 62nd

[16:27] annual Catalina Crossing. Um that's the SCORA US Outrigger Championships weekend

[16:33] of the 12th and 13th. The Catalina Art Festival the weekend of the 18th through

[16:39] the 20th and the Catalina Film Festival the weekend of the 24th through the

[16:43] 27th. In October, we will have the jazz tracks from the 9th through the 11th and

[16:49] the 16th through the 18th. Also, the second annual Mermaid Festival um

[16:55] October 23rd to to the 25th, at least for the weekends, the island should be

[17:00] packed over the next two months. Currently, we are hiring a part-time

[17:05] recreation leader position to add to our staffing. Um the person will be

[17:09] responsible for organizing and leading our youth and adult recreational

[17:13] programs. We do prefer the applicant to know multiple sports, but more

[17:18] importantly be able to manage the coaches, referees, parents, and kids. We

[17:23] are also hiring part-time recreational aids who will be under the management of

[17:26] the recreational leader. Must be able to understand and referee sports programs.

[17:32] Please apply online at cityoflon.com under human resources and employment

[17:37] opportunities. Is there any questions? >> I've had a request from the community.

[17:44] So Christine, the the water aerobics person has gone off island, right? But

[17:49] they were wondering as if there's any way it could be continued because it's

[17:53] such a wonderful activity. >> I actually could not hear you.

[17:58] » What's that? >> I actually could not hear you about the

[18:00] water aerobics. >> Yeah, because it's it's finished up. But

[18:04] they were wondering if if they if there was an instructor if they could continue

[18:09] the courses, the water aerobics up at the hotel.

[18:13] » Yeah. If if we have an if we have an instructor um we would look at

[18:19] um extending the the services. Yes. >> Okay. If there's any aerobic water

[18:24] aerobic instructors out there, please give David a call.

[18:27] » Yes, please do. [laughter] >> Okay.

[18:29] » Thank you. >> I have a quick question.

[18:31] » Yes, ma'am. >> You guys also bought a little electric

[18:34] thing to move that LED screen around. >> It's electric handle.

[18:38] » How much was that? >> Uh that was 1,500.

[18:41] » How much? >> 1,500.

[18:43] 1500. >> Yes.

[18:44] » So that wasn't with the original 72,000. >> No.

[18:49] » Okay. >> But we we decided to purchase that so we

[18:52] didn't have to drive a truck down Front Street. Try to back that in through

[18:56] Front Street as well as the maintenance um yard can utilize it to easily move

[19:02] the the uh where you're going to keep it then up in the maintenance yard.

[19:06] » Yeah. Okay. Right. Thank you.

[19:13] Hey, that's it. Oh, city manager, >> I think that's it. Uh, thank you. Thank

[19:16] you, council. Um, couple updates for tonight. Just, uh, as

[19:21] we've talked about the community court, uh, we're on schedule for the community

[19:26] court to open up here. October 2nd is the tenative date we have right now.

[19:31] Hopefully uh if we're able if everybody's online to meet that date,

[19:35] we'll get information out as we uh get closer. But there will be a open house

[19:40] up here at city hall. They're going to have the number of judges over here.

[19:42] They're going to bring their state city their staff and resources for the first

[19:46] opening of that city uh community court that will be here in the lobby. So,

[19:51] that's been something that uh essentially has been funded by the

[19:55] Superior Court, LA Superior Court to allow our residents to have access to

[19:59] many more services through the court system without having to go over town.

[20:03] So, we're excited about that. Our our commitment to that was we provided the

[20:08] desk where the computers will lie and and and we'll make the connection for

[20:13] the computers, but other than that, they're providing all that information,

[20:16] all that backwork, all that uh um and we do not have to have uh you know, they'll

[20:21] train our staff that will be at the front desk to answer any questions, but

[20:25] for the most part, we're trying to make it I understand it's in the lobby. We'll

[20:29] provide some screening for some privacy. Uh but it is o court is open to the

[20:35] public. So people will be in there. They'll have some screening but it will

[20:38] be open as uh for usual. So we'll be open during all business hours for them

[20:42] for our residents to have access to that. So more to come on that.

[20:47] Um updates on code enforcement stats for the month of August. Uh four reports of

[20:54] uh stolen golf carts, six reports of vehicles without city commercial

[20:58] permits. They did 10 red tags on abandoned vehicles, uh three golf cart

[21:04] toes, um two graffiti reports with cleanup, um six building code violations

[21:10] and investigations. Uh most of those are still ongoing. Uh number of verbal

[21:16] warnings for early construction, four reports for illegal signage at Step

[21:20] Beach, four stop work orders or work going on on Sundays. Overall, they had

[21:25] 50 animal control calls for the month of August.

[21:29] Um, two violation letters for disposal of boxes and enforcement of uh all the

[21:37] uh the containers down there in the alley between chats and the buildings

[21:43] that the that fills up uh quite quickly. And I also want to give a shout out to

[21:48] Jeffrey Hernandez from code enforcement who was able to create a mechanism to

[21:53] prevent those lids from swinging all the way and hitting Chad's hardware which

[21:57] was causing problems and leaving the bins open and allowing the Ravens to get

[22:01] in there. So now those can only go part way and they'll fall back hopefully stay

[22:05] closed and keep it cleaner down there. Um in addition code had uh they sent

[22:11] letters to all the restaurants regarding the fog program. They had two fog

[22:15] violations with citations and two uh restaurant inspections. Uh overall uh 65

[22:23] calls for service for the month. Uh they did assist at five corners for traffic

[22:27] and up at the school on the first day of school. um cleaned up three encap

[22:33] encampments um and uh assisted company on a pretty

[22:39] pretty major uh encampment cleanup up behind the pet cemetery uh a week ago.

[22:45] Um, in addition, uh, I mentioned earlier that, you know, meeting with code

[22:51] enforcement, we are, uh, setting a little bit of a focus on, uh, abandoned

[22:57] vehicles and how we're treating abandoned vehicles, trying to access

[23:01] access them and get them moved and off the street sooner than the current

[23:05] policy. Um, we are focusing on Whitley. Uh we've identified a number of vehicles

[23:12] uh on Whitley that have not moved for a period of time, some on the street, some

[23:16] partly on the sidewalk, some between buildings, reaching out to residents

[23:20] saying if this is a uh a dead vehicle, you have no intention of using it.

[23:26] Again, we're throwing out the amnesty program. We will uh tow it off the

[23:30] island for you for free if you just sign over the title to get rid of these

[23:33] vehicles that are just really taking up space. So, uh, we're back to pushing

[23:39] that forward. I would also indicate we've, um, done a shift on the code

[23:43] enforcement schedule. So, we will now, we used to have just one code

[23:47] enforcement officer on for part of the day on Sunday. Now, we will have code

[23:54] enforcement officer all day on Sunday. So, this will give us full coverage

[23:57] eight hours a day, seven days a week. And both of them will be on certain two

[24:02] or three days a week together. But, uh, this way we have full coverage Monday

[24:06] through all the way through Monday through Sunday. Any questions?

[24:11] » Well, okay. Council reports the attorney.

[24:18] » Hi, Scott. I can't see your beautiful face, so I forgot you were there.

[24:21] » Yeah, I am here. I do have a report today.

[24:25] » Yeah. >> Okay. Well, we'll hear from you later.

[24:27] » No, he's got one. He's >> Oh, you've got a report today?

[24:30] » Yes, I actually have a report. Um, for the last uh year or so, uh, the city and

[24:35] our, uh, code enforcement and our, uh, and our code enforcement attorneys have

[24:40] been trying to work with the owners of 345 Sumner, um, on remediating that that

[24:47] property. Uh, we we were able to get an inspection and we went into that

[24:52] property and examined the property and the property was found to be in complete

[24:57] disrepair, uninhabitable. its foundation was unstable and the structure was in

[25:03] immediate danger of collapsing. We tried to work with an owner with the owner to

[25:08] go ahead and rehabilitate that. We were unable to do so. So, um uh in July uh we

[25:16] went to court and a receiver has been appointed for that property. What this

[25:20] means is is that the receiver is going to be in charge of the cleanup of this

[25:25] property which includes the demolition of the property, the rebuilding of the

[25:30] property so that it is safe and then the sale of that property. The city will be

[25:36] be will be reimbursed all of its costs and fees um including um attorney fees

[25:42] for this for the rehabilitation of this property. the importance of this

[25:46] property was not only was it a fire hazard, but because of the uh the the

[25:52] the vermin that were there, it was causing danger to residents. And so,

[25:57] we're going to clean up the property and replace it with some housing uh that

[26:01] we'll be able to actually use for for multi- uh for a multi- structure housing

[26:07] uh um unit. So, um that will be done and again at no cost to the city um once the

[26:14] it is completed. >> Excellent. Thank you. Okay,

[26:19] » council members, >> can I go first?

[26:21] » Yes, you may. >> I have a couple of things. Um in regards

[26:24] to the water aerobics, uh the Catalini Canyon messaged me and they can do those

[26:29] through October. So, if you can find an instructor,

[26:32] » they can use the pool through October. >> Okay. And then my second thing is um

[26:38] a story here about Oans's. Uh Olans is not officially out of business, but it

[26:42] has shut down its California CRV recycling machines after stating that

[26:48] state regulations made the operation unsustainable. Do we know anything about

[26:53] that, Dave? >> We uh I received the same note as

[26:57] probably you did yesterday. So, we're in the process of reaching out to Olins's

[27:01] uh in particular, not only because we have one, but we have two additional

[27:05] ones that we just got from them that have not gone online. So, uh we're

[27:09] working we're working through that. We'll let you know as soon as what we

[27:12] find out. >> That's all I have.

[27:15] » Oh, that's

[27:18] going next. Um okay, so we are ramping back up. Uh we have started youth and

[27:24] government again. So this week is a sign up for the kiddos up at school. Um we

[27:29] have more already signed up than we did last year. So that's very exciting. So

[27:33] what this with uh the program usually entails is uh two camps for them and

[27:37] that's preparing them with civic engagement and a lot of uh local

[27:41] government education. They will also pick a bill that they have to represent

[27:45] and in those in those bills um we pretty much treat it as the government would.

[27:50] So we took it to each branch and hopefully it passes. Last year it passed

[27:54] all the way and it got signed by the youth and government governor. So that

[27:58] was our first year too. So fingers crossed for our second year. Uh women's

[28:02] forum is also ramping back up. Um last year we started with uh it was our first

[28:08] year going freshman to senior. So we're keeping that same um style going this

[28:13] year, but because it was so many girls, we now have enough mentors to be able to

[28:18] divide each class to represent each grade. Um and within that we'll have one

[28:23] or two girls represent their class kind of like class representatives. So

[28:27] they'll have um their own events depending on their class grade and a

[28:31] couple of them with all the girls together. Um we usually have one event

[28:34] each month for the girls. Um and then of course the senior girls get their

[28:38] scholarship at the end of the year. Um and another big thing that we got going

[28:42] on uh we were pursuing boys and girls club. It did not work out for us. Uh,

[28:48] but we don't give up and that's okay. It actually ended up working out better

[28:52] than we expected. We started our own nonprofit. So, it's new. It is called

[28:59] the Catalina Island Youth Investment Fund. And in this nonprofit under it is

[29:05] a program and the program is called Avalon Youth Impact Program. what we

[29:09] have started so far and again first year and [laughter] this is just the first

[29:13] two weeks. We already have tutoring for math and English and that'll be middle

[29:17] school and high school. Uh we will have a drum line so we will have music. We

[29:21] will have art for both middle school and high school. Uh we will have trades and

[29:26] that's one of the best things that I'm very excited for because we don't have a

[29:29] lot of that on the island. Uh we are exploring all avenues for trades but at

[29:33] the moment we are starting to roll out a construction program and that will start

[29:38] next month and in that program um the cool thing about the skills trades is

[29:43] that we are also doing it if you complete all 18 to 20 classes you will

[29:48] receive a $2,000 scholarship as well as any high school kids junior seniors that

[29:53] would like to intern to help tutoring. they will also receive a scholarship of

[29:57] $2,000, but you will have to complete 110 120 hours to be able to actually

[30:03] receive that scholarship. Uh, at the end of it all, we should be handing out at

[30:07] least 60,000 in scholarships. Um, hoping we can get more funding so we can

[30:12] release more funds. Um, but yeah, so at this moment, if there is any uh anyone

[30:17] out there on the island that is, you know, plumbing, electrician, mechanic

[30:21] that is willing to start a program, we are more than interested. And if you're

[30:25] not, I'm still going to reach out. So, be ready. [laughter]

[30:28] » Who's the majority of the funding coming from at this point?

[30:31] » Uh, there are donors uh from Mike Lancing with the Boys and Girls Club.

[30:34] So, he still had his list and luckily it worked out for us. So, our first year is

[30:38] fully funded. >> Cool.

[30:40] » Yes. >> Awesome. That's great news. [applause]

[30:43] That is great news.

[30:47] » Okay. >> I have nothing.

[30:50] » Um, so just a few things. Um, Gateway City's COG this month will be coming to

[30:54] Catalina as long as the hurricane backs down. Um, it seems that we've been in a

[31:00] cycle of government visits with hurricanes, and I'm really hoping to

[31:03] break that cycle this this year. >> And that date is,

[31:06] » uh, it's going to be September 8th through the 10th. The 8th is actually a

[31:10] day where a number of the COG members and staff will be able to enjoy the

[31:15] island and get to learn a little bit about the island by utilizing local

[31:18] tours. And then the actual conference starts midday on the 9th and finishes

[31:23] midday on the 10th. So excited to see everyone there. Again, COG is going to

[31:27] be uh the 24 cities and government entities that represent our cities um in

[31:33] attendance. Up to two representatives per city can come to the meetings per

[31:38] the Brown Act. And um so yeah, should be really enjoyable in terms

[31:42] » and it's going to be held >> uh topside. Topside

[31:45] » topside. Yep. Um and then um met with the Conover family regarding the case

[31:53] that we had heard the denovo case for the property at the corner of Metropol

[31:58] and Beacon and just wanted to make sure that um city planning. I know Kelly is

[32:03] not here tonight, but I'll reach out to her after the call the meeting tonight.

[32:06] Um there were some questions regarding setbacks on the property. Um, if I

[32:12] recall from the recordings, we had agreed to a 14t setback from the

[32:17] property line for the upper stories and the current space that's there is

[32:21] definitely not 14 ft. So, um, just hoping that that can move forward with

[32:25] an investigation. I know the city um I know Mike Flynn had been up there

[32:30] measuring it earlier this week and also the city inspector. So, just waiting to

[32:34] hear back on that. Um, and then also there was the issue of a breezeway

[32:39] between the sidewalk and the side of the building, especially for the space where

[32:42] there was going to be employee housing. Um, just making sure that that still was

[32:45] part of the plans as well. Um, a friend of mine sent me a copy of uh the city of

[32:50] San Diego's prep checklist for El Nino and I was wondering if we might be able

[32:55] to put together something similar. I think Avalon is somewhat fortunate or

[33:00] unfortunate and that we're used to having to know what to do when there's

[33:03] large storms that come up and people are kind of already ready to roll and city

[33:07] is always ready to roll for that. Um, but it was a good checklist of just

[33:10] making sure certain insuranceances are up to date. Um, gutters are cleared,

[33:14] your house is cleared of debris and trash so that when there is a large

[33:18] amount of rain flow that you're able to safely navigate around your house and

[33:22] others can too. Um, and then had a few help lines and spots for info. So, I'll

[33:26] send you guys the link. If you think it's beneficial, let's definitely do

[33:29] that and share it out. But, it was a combination of uh law enforcement, code

[33:34] enforcement, public works, and uh I think fire as well that had kind of

[33:39] included info there uh and harbor. So, um and then, um finally, I got the phone

[33:47] calls, I don't know if anybody else did, regarding the gunshots that happened in

[33:51] Falls Canyon. And um just wanted to ask um part of the response that I'd

[33:56] received back was that um neither one of the callers asked for someone to come

[34:01] and investigate so they didn't. And I'm wondering if that can be part of the

[34:04] discussion post investigation. Um that that be standard when there's gunshots

[34:11] because that's not common here and it's not a normal occurrence. They should be

[34:14] investigated automatically the end of discussion for that I think.

[34:19] So, um, if we can have that be part of the discussion, that would be much

[34:23] appreciated. >> Sure. And just to follow up again, my

[34:25] conversation with Captain King, he he says, you know, he was not able to be

[34:28] here tonight for other personal reasons, but he is going to report out to council

[34:32] fully uh hopefully by the next meeting of of what he has discovered and what

[34:37] they did. >> I appreciate that. Yeah.

[34:39] » Thank you. >> Okay. Um, I've staged, but it's going to

[34:43] be in city hall chambers. So, if anybody wants to see what a Southern California

[34:48] Association of Government meeting is like, I can meet you up here at 9:30. I

[34:52] just >> When's that?

[34:53] » Thursday. >> Thursday. Okay.

[34:54] » I just do it on the phone because I don't know how to do all the other

[34:57] stuff, but um but I'm sure they'd set us up if you were here or you could set it

[35:02] up. Um and I'm wondering about the we've I don't know when we imple Well,

[35:08] we set up for the residential inspection program. So if people call wanted to

[35:12] call and had inadequacies in their home that we could um investigate those but I

[35:17] know there's a lot of um I don't know how far we got on that. For example, if

[35:23] I call my house is I don't have heat and I don't have a refrigerator and whatever

[35:30] or you know got holes in my walls. what we do if all of a sudden the people have

[35:35] to be relocated, you know, and and I don't think that we got that much of the

[35:40] program set up, but I would like us to do that.

[35:44] And and maybe because I know the gentlemen that come to do the

[35:48] inspections are willing to do that, but there's that whole thing if all of a

[35:53] sudden you have to move out of your house, where do [clears throat] we put

[35:55] them? Who pays for that? Then you go back in.

[35:59] » Can they up your rents? All of that. I think we should begin looking into

[36:03] » Mayor, we we did do one uh in August. We we did do one at the renters's request,

[36:08] went in there, did a full inspection. Um the renderer did indicate there is a

[36:13] fear of retaliation, but once code was in there, uh wrote it up. They did

[36:17] follow up and are pursuing it with the landlord because once they see it, they

[36:21] can't unsee it. Um but it was one that did not require um

[36:27] » evacuation [clears throat] of the premises. But that is a concern

[36:30] every time we go in that we have to do that to protect the tenants. Um but we

[36:35] are we are following up with the calls that we get on that they they are doing

[36:39] that. >> I don't know how much we want to really

[36:41] put it out there that we have that program because I don't think the

[36:44] community even knows really about it. But

[36:47] » okay, >> that's okay. Let's go. Do you want this

[36:51] before we do public comments? >> Sure. Because you're anxious.

[36:59] » We do have a proclamation this evening. A proclamation of the city council of

[37:03] the city of Avalon recognizing September 2026 as childhood cancer awareness

[37:09] month. Whereas childhood cancer awareness month is observed each

[37:13] September to recognize the strength, courage, and resilience of children and

[37:18] adolesccents battling cancer while honoring the families, caregivers,

[37:23] health care professionals, and researchers dedicated to supporting

[37:26] them. And whereas according to the cancer American Cancer Society, an

[37:31] estimated 9,550 children in the United States under the

[37:35] age of 15 and approximately 5,100 adolescents ages 15 to 19 will be

[37:42] diagnosed with cancer each year. While the World Health Organization estimates

[37:46] that nearly 400,000 children and adolesccents worldwide develop cancer

[37:51] annually. And whereas despite advances in treatment, cancer remains one of the

[37:57] leading causes of disease related death among children. And many survivors

[38:01] experience lifelong physical, emotional, and financial challenges resulting from

[38:07] their diagnosis and treatment. And whereas nearly three decades ago, Steven

[38:12] Firestein, a member of the philanthropic Max Factor family, founded the American

[38:17] Cancer Fund for Children, Inc. and Kids Cancer Connection, Inc. in association

[38:22] with Lions Clubs International to provide hope, encouragement, and

[38:27] meaningful support to children battling cancer and their families. And whereas

[38:32] the American Cancer Fund for Children and Kids Cancer Connection provide vital

[38:37] psycho psych sociological services at hospitals throughout Southern California

[38:42] and across the nation including Children's Hospital Los Angeles, City of

[38:47] Hope, Mattel's Children Hospital at UCLA, LA General Medical Center, Harbor

[38:53] UCLA Medical Center, Cedar Cyani Medical Center, and many others helping improve

[38:58] the quality of life for children undergoing treatment and their loved

[39:02] ones. And whereas these organizations also sponsor programs that bring

[39:08] comfort, joy, and encouragement to children through toy distributions,

[39:13] educational opportunities, sailing exper experiences, pet assisted therapy, the

[39:19] KCC supercar experience, hospital celebrations, and other activities that

[39:25] recognize extraordinary bravery and determination of children facing

[39:29] childhood cancer. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the

[39:34] mayor and city council of the city of Avalon do hereby proclaim September 2026

[39:39] as childhood cancer awareness month in the city of Avalon, and encourage all

[39:44] residents to increase awareness, support children and families affected by

[39:49] childhood cancer, promote continued research, and recognize the

[39:53] organizations and indiv individuals working tirelessly to improve outcomes

[39:58] and bring hope to those facing facing this disease dated this first day of

[40:03] September 2026. >> Thank you.

[40:07] » We have two presentations. Catalina Island Health.

[40:15] [cough]

[40:19] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Gail from Catalina Island Health. Uh just a

[40:23] quick update, but before I start, Yenya, if you think that medical assistants

[40:27] count as trades, I think we should talk. So, just uh setting that

[40:32] » little seed there. Um just wanted to share super exciting news. If you have

[40:36] not seen last week's paper, we put out the um good news of raising $5.1 million

[40:42] for the new hospital during our Catalina event uh earlier in August. And um that

[40:48] reminding to everybody all for the new hospital, not for regular daily

[40:52] operations, but it's getting us a lot closer. And we feel a lot of great

[40:55] momentum coming out of that event. So, um, we're feeling like a lot of people

[40:59] were telling us like, "Oh, like we really think it's going to happen and we

[41:01] know it's going to happen." So, u, we just wanted to make sure everybody saw

[41:05] that. And if there's ever any questions about that, let us know. Um, other good

[41:09] news, um, we've been working, we've been saying for a while that we've been, um,

[41:13] renegotiating our payer contracts. And so we have um HealthNet, Blue Cross, and

[41:18] Blue Shield as of starting October 1st and between October 1st and November 1st

[41:23] between the three of them, we'll be able to take all of the plans within those

[41:28] and payer insurance. So like the city, for example, I know has Blue Shield and

[41:32] we've taken the PO but not the HMO and stuff like that. So now we'll be able to

[41:37] take all of those plans. Um with those, we still have a few other payer

[41:41] contracts that we're working on, but those are super exciting. We've been

[41:44] working on that for a long time. So, we're hopeful that many of you can now

[41:48] come to the clinic and the hospital without having to worry about going over

[41:52] town. So, uh that will more information will be coming about that too, just so

[41:56] we know when we know the exact dates. Uh and then just a followup from last

[42:01] presentation. Um it had come up about our board of directors. So, we just

[42:06] wanted to just give a brief overview of who sits on our board, not specific

[42:10] people, but just like experience and and um what they do. So, um a lot of uh de

[42:17] decades uh of Islanders. Uh so, we have a retail jewelry store owner uh teacher

[42:24] uh and a subteer uh a retired um a retired restaurant owner. Um we have an

[42:32] emergency physician who is off island but he is like the head of uh five

[42:36] different uh emergency rooms uh with UCI. Uh so uh brings that knowledge to

[42:42] it. We have a retired judge and attorney CPA uh also an islander, a hotel manager

[42:49] who is an islander um and then uh living on the island but a current uh

[42:54] practicing physician. So u gets the everyday family practice. So brings that

[42:59] um knowledge to our uh board and then also uh the a retired healthcare CEO. So

[43:06] um that is off island but also lots of good connections and knowledge of just

[43:12] healthcare in the state of California and locally in more LA County. So um the

[43:17] makeup of our board just as it stands right now. Um so just so people have

[43:22] that in mind of who we who who's there representing um but also you know

[43:27] further conversation whenever that comes up. And then um just another uh up on

[43:32] the screen you'll see uh we have the mammogram mobile unit coming um

[43:36] September 12th 13th 14th. So I know it's that rigor we've already that will be no

[43:41] problem. We've already dealt with that. So everybody's okay and we'll be able to

[43:46] work together on that uh during that one day. Um, but it will be all day

[43:50] Saturday, Sunday, so 9:00 to 5:00. Um, and then, uh, we were able to add this

[43:55] year Monday morning, so 9 to noon because we don't have to take the unit

[44:00] back to the barge until the afternoon. So, um, hopefully we can get even more.

[44:03] Last year we screened 79 local ladies and so we hope to get even more. And,

[44:09] um, just wanted to throw out a huge thank you to Avalon Freight Services for

[44:12] donating the barge fees to bring that over and back. and then also Rotary Club

[44:16] of Avalon for helping to um work on our or cover our hotel costs for the Tex and

[44:21] the boats for the text. So, um it really makes it a major um event for the island

[44:27] and we're super excited. Um and then uh just that's we're we're there. We're

[44:33] we're here for questions. We'd like anybody has any questions, we're happy

[44:36] to meet with anybody, tour them through the hospital, whatever it is, we're

[44:40] there. So, please reach out. Well, I I made a comment today at the

[44:43] exercise class that men also get breast cancer.

[44:47] » That's true. Yeah. >> And so I don't know what is symptom. I

[44:52] don't want all the men in town running to get their boobs squished, but if they

[44:56] uh I So it might be interesting for somebody to look to look that up to see

[45:01] who is who is a candidate who's a male candidate for breast cancer.

[45:05] » Yeah, I mean we can put that out there. I would assume it's like most um anybody

[45:10] who's like under 40 needs a doctor's note and extra meets special criteria.

[45:14] So I would assume for a male that would there would be special criteria and

[45:18] indefinitely doctor's note for them to actually do that screening for them. But

[45:22] I can find out what that is and share that in the paper. So

[45:25] » I just thought it was interesting. >> Yeah.

[45:26] » Okay. Thank you. >> It's true. It does happen.

[45:28] » Unfortunately, >> can I ask have we found a spot for the

[45:31] hospital yet? >> We're close. um we have to do some

[45:35] ecological um or environmental studies um that that those will that will

[45:40] determine if we can use the space that we would like to use. So we're we're not

[45:44] don't have that answer yet, but we're closer than we've been for a long time.

[45:48] So we're getting there. We'll let you know.

[45:50] » Okay. >> Okay. Thank you.

[45:53] » Thank you. >> Okay, Mr. Troopa, Catalina Film

[45:58] Festival.

[46:02] » [cough]

[46:05] » Thank you, uh, council members and m Miss Madame Mayor. It's good to see you

[46:11] back, Dave. >> Yeah, man. Um, you guys are obviously

[46:16] the meat and potatoes. It's amazing. You got that $60,000 for those kids. I mean,

[46:21] that's crazy. Mammograms. We are the sizzle and promotion of the island, and

[46:26] we make no mistake about it. Um, the festival is less than a month away.

[46:31] Travel, lodging, vendors, and production commitments are already happening. CFF

[46:36] is a destination event. No surprise to anyone here. People come to Avalon

[46:42] specifically because the festival exists. The impact equals hotel rooms

[46:46] and ferry tickets and restaurants and retail and local vendors and workers and

[46:51] media and repeat visitors. Catalina is expensive to attend. [laughter]

[46:59] Um CFF and local partners repeatedly discount and absorb costs to make

[47:04] attendance possible. We have amazing partners that uh make that happen every

[47:09] year. Discounts do not erase costs. They shift them to the nonprofit or the

[47:15] filmmakers, the visitors and Avalon businesses. The goal is to discount

[47:21] less, comp less, and pay Avalon businesses closer to the full value of

[47:26] their work. We are not asking for entitlement or special treatment, but we

[47:32] are asking for partnership tied with measurable public benefit and

[47:37] transparency. Tonight's ask is just help us maximize

[47:41] this year's festival. Uh we have some great things going on. Uh, we have

[47:46] continued city promotion and LED screen support that David Hart's got, which is

[47:52] really exciting and fascinating. I know we're excited to use it. Um, vis visible

[47:57] city welcomes and film for the filmmakers and the guests. I know every

[48:01] year we kind of see what we can do with the mold is welcome to Avlon, welcome

[48:06] Catalina filmmakers. Any of that stuff would be huge. Um, if we can get around

[48:10] the whole if we do it for you, we have to do it for everybody. it would just

[48:14] make a better impact on who's getting off those boats when they see stuff like

[48:18] that. Fast coordination through David Hart and um city related needs. Uh he's

[48:24] always amazing. He helps us in any way he can. Um and we appreciate him so much

[48:29] for that. Um if we could identify any remaining inind logistical or tourism

[48:35] resources that we could help benefit some of these filmmakers that are coming

[48:40] on their own dime from all over the world. I think we have 35 countries

[48:45] represented this year. We've picked over 49

[48:48] films. Uh 200 of those are online. Obviously, there's a lot of short films

[48:53] involved. So, we're not talking about feature films that are 409 films. Um but

[48:57] we have a lot of excited people. Friday night, we have Katherine Hardwick's West

[49:02] Coast premiere of her film called Street Smart. Katherine Hardwick is the

[49:06] director of all the um Twilight series of Robert Patson and and uh and um

[49:13] what's her name? Kristen Stewart. And she's she's she's had an amazing career.

[49:17] We're going to give her a career tribute. She's bringing about 40 people

[49:20] just from her film alone who are coordinating hotels and boats and all of

[49:24] that fun stuff right now. Saturday night, the producer of that film, um

[49:29] there's a there's a people from Yellowstone that are in that film.

[49:34] There's a bunch of celebrities that they're all coming. This independent

[49:37] producer pretty much bought out the Blanco Hotel to put up all of his

[49:41] filmmakers, all of his talent. Didn't ask anything of the festival. If

[49:46] anything, he's also sponsoring the festival just because he understands

[49:49] logistics and uh it's just going to be an amazing sort of event this year. So,

[49:54] we are excited about that as well. um

[49:59] the visible uh let's see identify the kind after the

[50:06] festival we are going to reconvene we're going to bring all of our current data

[50:10] we're going to bring our disc we're going to discuss our our our metrics and

[50:14] based on the event support system that we can do to continue a stronger

[50:17] partnership in the future. Uh the goal here really is you know when the

[50:23] nonprofit carries the full cost of creating a public tourism benefit the

[50:27] cost does not disappear. It just gets shifted somewhere else. So we are trying

[50:32] to eliminate that because you know partnerships it's not charity. It helps

[50:37] turn events and and into room nights and local spending and tax revenue and

[50:42] repeat visitation. Uh but we do not measure partnership by what it gives to

[50:48] CFF. we measure uh by what CFF can then give back to Avalon. So public tourism

[50:55] um should follow measurable public benefit. And obviously everybody in this

[51:00] room in so many ways has helped us throughout the years. It's like you know

[51:04] so many beautiful faces out there that have helped from from Val to Dave to you

[51:10] know Mark Task. How many hours did we spend in that projection booth together?

[51:14] Um Mr. Pon and Marsh. I mean like look this is a community event and there is

[51:21] nothing more than we love to come to this island show it off to the world. Um

[51:26] we have I think 25 people that are coming on a Thursday night just to get

[51:31] ready for Friday morning. So we try to track all this data. Um we are still

[51:36] trying to sell out Friday although there's no more boats until after 8:30.

[51:40] So we're that's another thing we're trying to work with Amanda and the

[51:43] Catalina Express. It's El Nino. It could rain. So we understand their their

[51:47] issues. So we're just trying to figure out and navigate this the best we can

[51:51] and have an amazing year 17. So that's why we're coming back after the festival

[51:55] with all the beautiful data that we will have for you moving forward.

[52:00] » I I um maybe SA can help with this one. I feel really bad that the youth and a

[52:08] lot of the other people that live here don't take advantage of this festival

[52:11] and I don't know how to get them turned on to to want to come. I mean, it's

[52:18] » Yeah, >> it's it's fabulous. So, if you have any

[52:21] ideas how we can really get the kids involved in their participation and

[52:25] coming with their parents and >> Saturday morning in the Lancer

[52:29] Auditorium at the school, we have a familyfriendly feature film. It's called

[52:34] Bob's Best Friends and it has a bunch of celebrity uh voices for all these dogs

[52:40] that are in the film. Um so we're basically calling all cars for Avalon

[52:45] families to come. That's a free event. >> We've already talked to the filmmaker.

[52:49] He's excited to offer that as well. We have a lot of cool familyoriented films

[52:54] this year because we even created a family category. So we uh we're trying

[52:58] to program more because our animation category technically isn't cartoons.

[53:02] Right. >> There could be a lot of anything in

[53:05] animation. So, um, we we are trying to develop more familyfriendly events as

[53:10] well. And we're trying to do it on the weekends.

[53:12] » Yes. Yes. >> So, that's good.

[53:14] » You know, the more people can find out about that, I don't know how we can

[53:18] reach them more, but that would be amazing.

[53:20] » Yes. Okay. >> Well, thank you.

[53:24] » Thank you.

[53:30] » Okay. Oral communications. This is an opportunity for the public to speak on

[53:34] items that are not on the agenda. You will be limited to two minutes and no

[53:39] action will be taken.

[53:47] » Hello there, Paul Burchaw, Avalon Library. Uh, a couple small things

[53:51] first. Um, the the uh art fair is coming up and uh the friends of the library are

[53:58] going to have a book table sale as always. Donate your books. If you have

[54:01] books piling up that you just can't stand, bring them on down to the

[54:05] library. Uh, bring them to Judy's house. I'm not going to say the address. That's

[54:09] for her. He's supposed [laughter] to do, but uh, the library is available. Just

[54:12] drop them off with me. Uh, if we're closed, put them in the book return bin.

[54:16] I'll s some out in the morning. Uh, so yeah, please come and give us lots of

[54:19] books for the book sale. Uh, a few things you might not know. During this

[54:23] heatwave, the library was a beautiful cooling center. We had the best air

[54:28] conditioning. Oh my goodness, it was awesome. So, another heat wave coming in

[54:32] about a week, I think. Come on down to the library. Hang out with us. Read a

[54:36] book. Nobody's going to, you know, screech at you except maybe some kids.

[54:40] But, you know, it'll be lovely and just hang out in your beautiful library. Um,

[54:44] just other stuff. The bookmark contest, our annual bookmark contest is starting

[54:48] up now. Come on down. Uh, create a lovely bookmark. I may be imposing on

[54:53] council and the friends of the library to help judge that thing uh probably in

[54:58] November if we get enough people. Um some of my events coming up, this is an

[55:03] awesome month at the library. We have the Barnsdale Arts Center doing an arts

[55:08] class that's going to be on Thursday, September 10th. Uh beautiful, they do

[55:13] beautiful stuff, hands-on art. Kids are welcome. Everybody's welcome if you have

[55:18] an aesthetic sense. Coming up on the 16th, we're going to have a magician,

[55:22] Arty Lon. He's been to the library a bunch of times. He is just delightful.

[55:26] He does like floating tables and magic wands that get huge. He's amazing. Um,

[55:32] and our usual stuff as well, crafts on Tuesdays and Fridays. My story time.

[55:37] every Saturday. Um, just to encourage people to enter the bookmark contest on

[55:43] the 24th, I'm going to have an ice cream party where if you want an ice cream,

[55:48] you have to do a bookmark. Uh, and you know, if you want two ice cream, you got

[55:51] to do two bookmarks. You want three ice cream, you got to do 30 bookmarks. So,

[55:56] uh, I set up a little, uh, nothing like a film festival, but I do a little movie

[56:01] thing. I set up a little screen. I have a little projector, uh, attach it to a

[56:05] laptop. We use Canopy, which is a program we all have, the library card

[56:09] members have a subscription to. I'm allowed to show some movies without

[56:13] licenses. So, I'm going to do Animal Crackers, the old Marks Brothers thing.

[56:18] On the 30th, I'm going to do my let's face it, my quarterly screening of Monty

[56:23] Python and the Holy Grail. I've done it like eight times this year. I I have to

[56:27] do what I like at the library sometimes, too. Um, also, uh, we also subscribe to

[56:32] something called the Alexander Street Performance. Uh, we're gonna do a

[56:36] screening of Richard III from the Royal Shakespeare Company. We'll see. I want

[56:40] to get us cultury a little bit, too. I don't think there's anything wrong with

[56:44] a bit of culture. Um, also, since we have our our new page hired, he leads

[56:50] Dungeons and Dragons pretty much every Wednesday at 3 and Saturday at 3. And I

[56:56] have one more program that I can't really talk about, but I'll talk about

[56:59] it on the uh uh at the next city council meeting. I think it's kind of cool. Uh,

[57:04] it's a sort of partnership that LA County Library is doing with someone and

[57:08] I'm not allowed to say it. They will fire me. They will say, "You are

[57:11] embargoed from talking about it, but I hinted it like I'm allowed to do." So,

[57:16] thank you very much for your time. >> Thank you, Paul.

[57:23] » Hello, everyone. Martas 345 Ser 330 Clarissa. A friend of mine phoned me

[57:30] tonight and said [clears throat] that uh apparently my address 345 is confused

[57:37] with 343 Candace Reman and I need to set the record straight because this is a

[57:44] public record that uh Candace Rebanov does not own three, four or five. She

[57:49] owns a trash dump next to me. Thank you. >> Oh, okay. Thank you.

[57:59] Hi. >> Long time no see. How you doing?

[58:02] » Good, thank you. Good. >> Um, I'm here today because I have some

[58:06] questions. Um, with so many golf carts in Avalon aging out and with many repair

[58:10] parts no longer being available, are options for purchasing new golf carts is

[58:15] becoming more difficult? With electric golf carts in the flats and condos that

[58:19] don't have garages? So, I've done some research and I get different information

[58:24] in all three spots that I researched. One was the DMB and they specifically

[58:29] mentioned Avalon and an exemption that we received. Um, there's also Yamaha

[58:35] which is different information and and then there's the city municipal code

[58:41] which is also different information. So, I'm here because we just had our cart at

[58:46] Yamaha for four weeks. And so, I'm I was kneede in this concern that a lot of

[58:52] people have here on the island because, like I said, golf carts are aging out

[58:57] and repair parts no longer available. And so, here we are. And I know a lot of

[59:02] talk has been happening about electric golf carts and a lot of talk has been

[59:06] happening about charging stations. And in my opinion, that's just not feasible

[59:12] because you've got the majority of the drivers in this town are golf carts and

[59:18] charging stations. We all know what happened with Tesla when they came out.

[59:21] It was a nightmare because there still aren't enough charging stations. So, I'd

[59:27] like to get some clarification as to where do we stand? Because with the

[59:31] research that I have done, we can still get gas golf carts. And I spoke to our

[59:38] insurance company before I came here tonight to find out because they're not

[59:42] making LSV golf carts anymore with VIN numbers. They used to be manufactured

[59:48] with VIN numbers and they don't do that anymore. Per the DMV, it has to be in

[59:51] order to be street legal. It has to have the VIN number. But everything is

[59:56] different. And when I talked to our insurance agency, they said it either

[1:00:00] has to have a VIN number. I explained that we have to bring this card up to

[1:00:03] get our city sticker every year. And I said, "Are we not going to be able to

[1:00:08] get that anymore since a new golf cart won't have a VIN number?" And they said,

[1:00:12] "As long as it has a VIN number or a serial number on it and I did I

[1:00:17] researched and of course all vehicles have a serial number, including every

[1:00:20] single golf cart that's manufactured." Um, if anyone is interested, our our

[1:00:26] insurance company said that they will ensure it's foremost. They will ensure

[1:00:31] any golf cart under specialty. they put it in the category with ebikes and

[1:00:36] things like that. And so I asked them, does that mean that we can still if we

[1:00:40] buy a gas golf cart from the manufacturer, can we um park it on the

[1:00:46] street and we drive it legally on the street? And they said yes. Um so that's

[1:00:52] kind of so you can see all the information that I re that I've

[1:00:56] researched and it's all different. So, I wanted to find out get some

[1:00:59] clarification from the city where you stand with gas golf carts.

[1:01:06] » And you're talking about residential golf cart, not a commercial.

[1:01:09] » So, right now the city does not have a requirement for electric residential

[1:01:13] golf carts. You can have a gas golf cart. We understand that, you know, we

[1:01:18] would love to [clears throat] create more charging stations. We're going to

[1:01:22] put some in here at city hall and on Tmont, but we understand that's not

[1:01:26] going to satisfy everybody's needs. So, you can still have there's no

[1:01:31] prohibition against Gas golf carts. >> Our requirement for a city sticker is

[1:01:36] just that you're licensed through the DMV. Now, I know the DMV has either

[1:01:43] issued uh licenses with a serial number or with a VIN number. Either way,

[1:01:48] they've done it and they continue to do it that way. We don't require a VIN

[1:01:52] number. We don't require As long as you're licensed through the DMV when you

[1:01:55] come to get your city sticker, you'll get your city sticker.

[1:01:58] » Okay, there a problem because I went on the DMV's website today and it clearly

[1:02:02] states that it has to be an LSV gas golf cart and it which means it is

[1:02:09] required to have a VIN number. I I think Debbie would right now the

[1:02:15] state of California says that Yamaha the corporation Yamaha cannot sell

[1:02:21] a Yamaha golf cart to Mike King down at Catalina Yamaha. I've talked to Dave

[1:02:28] Maestro about an exemption like we do for smog. We just go to um one of our

[1:02:35] legislature or in fact I don't even think we have to do that. Bud Smith just

[1:02:40] talked to somebody and we got exempt from smog. We need to get exempt from

[1:02:46] California saying we can't purchase a gas golf cart.

[1:02:53] And once we do that and Yamaha gets on board, then Yamaha will sell golf gas

[1:03:00] golf carts to Mike King and we can purchase gas golf carts because I'm with

[1:03:05] you. Most people don't want electric golf cart. Yeah, we don't have anywhere

[1:03:09] to plug it in, but that's where we're kind of at,

[1:03:12] » right? And we But I I I don't know that that solves the last issue she brought

[1:03:17] up, which is it the VIN number. >> They don't have VIN numbers. They have

[1:03:21] serial numbers. When I worked at the courthouse, they had the sheriff's

[1:03:24] underneath looking. They do have a serial number and you can register that.

[1:03:30] Uh San Pedro DMV knows all about that kind of stuff. So,

[1:03:33] » and that's true. >> If you buy something from

[1:03:37] I don't know how the easygo gals carts got over here, but I I know if you

[1:03:43] wouldn't buy something in Arizona or Nevada,

[1:03:47] you can bring it in and I would go to San Pedro with all your paperwork

[1:03:53] picture of it. You don't even have to take the golf cart in there. They're

[1:03:56] real good about >> Okay. I'm just I'm just concerned

[1:04:00] because it did state as of today that they require a VIN number. The DMV does.

[1:04:07] They use the serial number on most of them. They don't even have VIN numbers.

[1:04:11] Maybe some of the new companies like there's a bunch of new electric

[1:04:14] companies that you see even driving on the mainland. I don't know if you ever

[1:04:19] cruise through like Lagouna and all those places, Huntington Beach. But if

[1:04:24] you buy a gas golf cart and you bring it here, it DMV and San Pedro will help

[1:04:31] you. even Long Beach. >> One question I had was, do you require

[1:04:36] if So, does a city only require that we have insurance?

[1:04:41] » Um, >> they don't even require that.

[1:04:43] » And the DMV part Well, we have to have we have to bring something in in order

[1:04:47] to get our Well, in order to get our city sticker every year, we have to

[1:04:50] bring something. >> You have to be registered with the DMV

[1:04:54] » and they require insurance. So maybe the city council could look into that

[1:04:58] because um I found different information. So if you guys could look

[1:05:03] into it and clarify for the community because I do know people who are looking

[1:05:08] for golf carts and there are people who are desperately looking for gas golfart

[1:05:12] golf carts and so if we could bring in new golf carts. I think the community

[1:05:17] needs to know that >> and and I I can tell you that we have

[1:05:20] had golf carts that have been registered this season, this this last March season

[1:05:25] with the DMV with serial numbers. >> Yes. But were they new golf carts?

[1:05:31] » New? >> Yeah, brand new. Like if someone wants

[1:05:33] to go buy a brand new golf cart, if they like ours is 10 years old,

[1:05:36] » right? >> So we don't have that problem, you know,

[1:05:38] we have we bring it, you know, we have the register with the DMV. However, if

[1:05:43] someone wants to go out and buy a brand new golf cart, which I know several

[1:05:47] people who do, um, they want a gas golf cart and they want a new golf cart, can

[1:05:52] they bring it to the island, can they get a city sticker because it won't be

[1:05:56] registered with the DMV? Most likely. So, all I'm asking if the city could

[1:06:00] look into it and really clarify because I think that's information that the city

[1:06:04] that the people within the community need to have.

[1:06:08] We'll we'll definitely we'll definitely look into that and talk to our folks at

[1:06:11] the DMV. We always go through the San Pedro office because they get most of

[1:06:15] our residents. Yeah. >> And see if that has changed in the last

[1:06:19] six months because >> And then how do they go about it? So you

[1:06:22] can give give them concrete information about how they can go about it.

[1:06:27] » Yeah, we we will we will make those calls and look into that for you. Yeah,

[1:06:31] absolutely. >> Okay, thank you. Nice to see you.

[1:06:35] Anybody else? Oral communication.

[1:06:42] Hi, Janney Hall 334 Clarissa. Uh, why do we want gas golf carts so

[1:06:51] much? >> Because we don't like electric. And why

[1:06:54] [laughter] is that? I thought we were going that direction.

[1:06:58] » I think each different. >> Do you have a spot to plug yours in on

[1:07:03] your street? Well, I would put a I would put a

[1:07:06] » So, you dig a hole and put the >> And I don't know if that's been explored

[1:07:12] or something to that effect. Just that

[1:07:17] uh they sure gas golf carts are really loud and I can't

[1:07:23] » I think the easy goes are. I think the Yamahas aren't. And I think what you're

[1:07:27] hearing now are the easy goes from the rental car place because I've had a

[1:07:32] couple people call me. In fact, I went up to somebody's house and sat one day

[1:07:36] and listened and it was the easy goes. >> Yeah. And they're gas.

[1:07:40] » Okay. This is oral communication, so it's not it's typically not a this and

[1:07:43] that kind of a conversation. I hear you saying that you're in support of

[1:07:48] electric vehicles, electric golf. Golf carts as am I. But uh so we want to

[1:07:55] address this in the future or >> Yeah. Look at options.

[1:07:59] » Right. Exactly. >> Not just and Yeah. And there are ways to

[1:08:03] get into the curb cuts and do exactly what you're saying.

[1:08:05] » Oh, okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else?

[1:08:15] » Hello. Uh Diane Stone, 385 East Whitley. Um I am here to talk to the council and

[1:08:24] the city manager and our city attorney. Um, I have the most respect for your

[1:08:32] conscientious uh position as stewards of this

[1:08:35] community. However, I'm here to lodge a complaint on behalf of other members of

[1:08:40] this community uh regarding our sheriff's department. Um,

[1:08:47] because the sheriff's department is under contract to the city, they are

[1:08:51] accountable to you. I believe we deserve and demand more

[1:08:57] accountability, more service and more respect.

[1:09:02] Um this year we all are aware that the uh conservancy has received um uh the

[1:09:11] go-ahead from fish and wildlife to go ahead and begin exterminating the deer.

[1:09:16] Uh this was supposedly happening um September 1. Uh however, there has been

[1:09:23] gunfire and there has been uh shooting that has been going on before this.

[1:09:28] Obviously, they're in training or practicing or whatever. Um I bring that

[1:09:34] up because it has people on edge. People are

[1:09:39] concerned. And Friday night, uh August 21st,

[1:09:46] there was a call that went into the sheriff's station. several calls. Others

[1:09:51] would have called, but they knew the calls had already been been made.

[1:09:55] Starting at about 10:25, and it went on for almost 3 hours. Um,

[1:10:02] there were 19 shots recorded.

[1:10:08] And I will not go into detail about what came of all of this

[1:10:14] misunderstanding, miscommunication, whatever. The point is there were people

[1:10:20] who felt that their lives were in jeopardy. They actually took refuge in

[1:10:26] their homes where they felt they would be the safest.

[1:10:32] [clears throat]

[1:10:35] My complaint is that no one from the sheriff's department went out to speak

[1:10:42] to anyone. They did not call back. They did not follow up.

[1:10:47] to this date they have not done so that is really unconscionable.

[1:10:55] So that's my complaint on behalf of others

[1:10:59] in this community. The other thing I just want to mention is that I would ask

[1:11:04] our captain to speak to his deputies to remind them to use a little more

[1:11:09] discretion when they are discussing this community using derogatory

[1:11:15] remarks about our community and our residents. Do not dismiss us. Do not

[1:11:22] underestimate us. You don't know our education, our history, our knowledge,

[1:11:27] our experience, positions we have held. This is an amazing group of citizens in

[1:11:33] this community and we should not be underestimated.

[1:11:38] » That's it. >> Appreciate your comments.

[1:11:40] » Thank you. >> [applause]

[1:11:52] » Marian council. Uh Daniel Phelps Catalina Cravings. Uh just wanted to

[1:11:57] come up and make sure the community was aware. Uh we have been doing catalytic

[1:12:02] cravings for several months now and we identified that the majority of uh our

[1:12:07] repeat customers are either elderly or people with mobility issues. So with

[1:12:13] that information, we went to Dave Hart and we got him set up with a promo code

[1:12:19] for the recreation department. So anybody that's enrolled in the Meals on

[1:12:23] Wheels program uh can get free grocery delivery through the app. And it's not

[1:12:28] just uh groceries like toilet paper, cat food, any kind of essentials. Pretty

[1:12:32] much anything you can pick up at VNS will be delivered through the app free

[1:12:36] of charge for anybody enrolled in the meals on wheels program. Just wanted to

[1:12:39] make sure everybody knew. >> I'm sorry I kind of missed the first of

[1:12:41] that, Daniel. So it would be stuff that we have in the food bank that you would

[1:12:45] pick that up. >> No, not at all.

[1:12:47] » No, >> they're going to do deliveries for

[1:12:51] » people that would be on meals for wills. >> Yes. So we have a app based food. this

[1:12:56] would uh be on top of that. So, it's like an added service to that. So, now

[1:13:01] let's say somebody wanted to get their meals on wheels delivered. They have

[1:13:04] that, but oh, they forgot toilet paper, paper towels, napkins. Now, they have

[1:13:09] the ability to go on the app, you know, pay for it and it gets delivered to

[1:13:12] their house. >> Awesome.

[1:13:14] » Thank you. That's very nice.

[1:13:20] » Okay. Anybody else?

[1:13:25] Consent calendar.

[1:13:28] » Okay. Consent calendar. Item one, approval of the minutes from the August

[1:13:32] 12th, 2026 special city council meeting and the August 18th, 2026 regular city

[1:13:37] council meeting. Item two, approval of dispersements for August 10th, 2026

[1:13:42] through August 21st, 2026, totaling $2,538,25844.

[1:13:49] Item three, authorize the city manager or his designate to circulate a request

[1:13:54] for proposal for qualified vendors to lease the former public transit kiosk on

[1:13:59] Crescent Avenue. Item four, adopt an ordinance amending chapter 9-5, article

[1:14:05] 6, accessory dwelling units of title 9 of the Avalon Municipal Code to comply

[1:14:10] with the recent changes to state law that impose new limits on local

[1:14:14] authority to regulate accessory dwelling units and junior accessory dwelling

[1:14:18] units except as otherwise noted these new laws take effect on January 1st,

[1:14:23] 2026. >> Okay, council.

[1:14:28] » I just have a question about the kiosk. Yes.

[1:14:30] » Um, >> what would the rent be? How do we figure

[1:14:34] out what they would pay for that? >> Um, what what we designate is we're

[1:14:38] we're looking at designating a minimum mandatory rent of $500 a month on that

[1:14:42] space and really opening up to the public. Bring bring your best ideas.

[1:14:48] » Okay, that's all right. Okay. What's your pleasure, council?

[1:14:52] » I'll make a motion to approve items one through four on the consent calendar.

[1:14:56] I'll >> second. Moved and seconded. Call for the

[1:14:58] vote.

[1:15:05] All eyes. >> Okay. Thank you. General business.

[1:15:10] » General business. Item number five uh is a uh a letter regarding forthcoming

[1:15:16] wildfire liability reform. Um this came in uh last week uh at the request of

[1:15:23] Councilwoman Lavell. Um, I would point out that on Saturday there was uh some

[1:15:29] emergency legislation that passed that made um this much more palatable, I

[1:15:34] guess. So I I I don't know, you know, the the uh California League of Cities,

[1:15:39] I I believe had sent out um kind of where uh we're at now, which is uh the

[1:15:46] most um or the worst part of the original legislation has been removed.

[1:15:52] So what was passed s Saturday last Saturday morning is it does not include

[1:15:57] any limits on public agency recovery after a utility caused fire which was

[1:16:01] the biggest uh heartburn I think that was in that. So um I don't know if

[1:16:06] there's any other discussion on that or where we want to go with this now.

[1:16:09] » Yeah. >> Can we just make a recommendation that

[1:16:12] should that all fall apart that we do kind of

[1:16:17] » stick to our guns on it? >> Yeah.

[1:16:18] » Yeah. >> I think we should. So, if the bill was

[1:16:22] to regress to the way that it was prior to the changes from this weekend, um

[1:16:26] that we would still be not in support of that passing the way that it is. Um but

[1:16:30] that was the largest part was it basically did not allow cities or public

[1:16:35] entities to be able to have any [laughter] kind of recourse for damages

[1:16:40] due to wildfire emergencies. So, um I don't know if there's a way to craft

[1:16:45] craft something that would basically say that that we're in support of the

[1:16:49] changes that have been made. Um but should it regress, then we would be

[1:16:52] happy to add our name to the long list of supporters.

[1:16:55] » Yeah, that sounds good. >> Did I think there's going to be another

[1:16:58] uh standard support letter coming, so I I think we would be in line with that.

[1:17:03] So, if we could follow what they put out there.

[1:17:04] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:17:06] » Yeah, >> sounds good.

[1:17:07] » Thank you. >> Way easier than I thought it was going

[1:17:10] to be. Item number six.

[1:17:13] » So, did we need to have a vote on that item?

[1:17:16] » Need a vote for the that request, >> Scott. Would a consensus be okay?

[1:17:23] Um, you I I would I would prefer that we have a uh vote to give direction uh to

[1:17:30] uh support any uh letter that encourages passage of the liability act with

[1:17:40] protections for cities. >> I so move.

[1:17:44] » I'll second.

[1:17:50] » All eyes. Item number six. So item number six is a

[1:17:56] u a proposal for a c or request for CPU

[1:18:01] draft or addressing the CPU draft resolution T-17934.

[1:18:07] So, um, as council and most of the community is aware, uh, last December,

[1:18:14] December 2025, the California Public Utilities Commission passed a resolution

[1:18:20] that essentially did two things. It recognized the need for a project that

[1:18:26] included Avalon and Catalina Island, and that is to bring undersea fiber here. Uh

[1:18:31] the second thing it did is it awarded that grant for that project to AVX

[1:18:36] networks. Um the city supported that project uh both with letters of support

[1:18:42] going into it and and throughout and for years. I know uh Councilwoman Lavell and

[1:18:48] and others have really um been on this uh crusade to get this undersea fiber

[1:18:55] here. And and I think the city recognized then the city recognizes now

[1:19:01] that uh we we sit in in a different place here. We're not we're not in a

[1:19:07] rural community down the street from a city that has um you know highspeed

[1:19:12] internet. We are we are separated by a body of water that it can only be

[1:19:16] brought here one way. Um and and that step last December was a was a

[1:19:22] tremendous step for that project. uh once that project and that grant was

[1:19:26] awarded the city um you know the the interaction was between the PUC and the

[1:19:33] grantee and the and we have not had much interaction as it related to that. Um it

[1:19:39] was brought to the city's attention on August 6, 2026

[1:19:44] um that the the CPU and the division of um communications division prepared a

[1:19:52] draft resolution and that draft resolution proposed to resend and

[1:19:57] terminate that $37 million grant that was awarded in December of 2025.

[1:20:03] Um, at the time we found out about this in

[1:20:06] August of 2026, uh, that draft resolution referenced

[1:20:11] letters and correspondence and other things between the PUC and the grant

[1:20:15] recipient that the city wasn't a party. So that was the first time we became

[1:20:19] aware of of that. Um, I would say having read all of that, um, and and and

[1:20:26] recognizing that the PUC the PUC acknowledge the importance of this

[1:20:31] project that the city take a position regarding this hearing because that

[1:20:35] draft resolution is before the CPU on September on a hearing on September

[1:20:40] 17th. they can adopt that draft resolution which would as written uh

[1:20:46] resend this grant and the money for that project would no longer be designated

[1:20:51] for that project or they can amend it or they can work it out with the grant

[1:20:55] recipient. Um when we look at the overall uh importance of what we have

[1:21:01] before us, I think that the main factor is to try to convince the CPU to keep

[1:21:08] those funds designated for Catalina Island and this project because once

[1:21:13] they're lost, the fear is it's going to be extremely difficult to get them back.

[1:21:17] Uh and I will acknowledge that AVX did a tremendous amount of work and did all

[1:21:22] the work in order to get that grant. Um, but the the issues set forth in the

[1:21:28] draft resolution are between strictly related between AVX and the CPU. Nowhere

[1:21:34] in there do they recognize that the project's not a good idea or they you

[1:21:38] know they've determined it's no longer needed. None of that's in there. It's

[1:21:42] only between the relationship between AVX and the CPU and that's between them

[1:21:48] and however that and and that's really the PUC being a steward of those funds

[1:21:51] and however they resolve that is between them. what what I think and what I

[1:21:58] propose uh that we submit a letter to the PUC really fighting to maintain

[1:22:02] those funds for this project that if they determine there's irreconcilable

[1:22:07] differences between them and the current grant recipient at least keep those

[1:22:12] funds there give them an opportunity for another uh entity to come in and try to

[1:22:17] build this project and and not lose what where we're at right now. This is an

[1:22:23] extreme that would be uh an extreme case, but the reality of it is this

[1:22:29] grant has not even been awarded 12 months ago. And they issued their letter

[1:22:34] terminating this on July 7th. So seven months in, they've made this decision.

[1:22:39] Uh and if that can't be saved, that relationship can't be saved. Hopefully

[1:22:44] seven months in won't give them cause to take these funds away. So, so really uh

[1:22:49] the staff report and the draft letter that's before you uh focuses on the

[1:22:54] project as compared to any of the personal entities or any of their

[1:22:58] personal actions. I would say that um you know they're they're well you know

[1:23:05] they they go into great detail. The PUC goes into great detail of why they're

[1:23:10] asking what they're asking. Uh but again, I would reiterate that our

[1:23:16] attached draft letter strongly supports the need to preserve the funding should

[1:23:20] they decide to terminate the grant relationship with AVX. And and I think

[1:23:25] that that's the strongest position we can take right now and open to any

[1:23:30] direction from council on where you want to go. The only caveat I would give is

[1:23:34] that the letters have to be uh sent by September 3rd. So we would have to get

[1:23:40] this out quickly. So, I have a question.

[1:23:43] » Yes. >> Um, so we got a request to

[1:23:47] not send this letter right now. >> If let's say we I'm not saying that's

[1:23:54] what I want to do. I'm just saying if that's what we did and waiting till the

[1:23:58] September 17th meeting,

[1:24:03] what does that do? Uh if if we if we if we council, okay,

[1:24:10] do not voice our position on this, which what we're saying is fight for the

[1:24:15] project. If you don't fight for the project, they won't have that in front

[1:24:18] of them. Okay, the commission, the draft resolution was not drafted by the

[1:24:22] commission. It was drafted by the communications division of the PUC. They

[1:24:26] sent it to the commission. Commission can make changes to it. They can vote no

[1:24:30] on it. They can vote yes on it. So, they can go a number of different directions

[1:24:34] with it. um they have this period of time where they're accepting uh comments

[1:24:40] and that's where we're at right now. So, you know, it's just whether or not

[1:24:43] council wants to be heard on this. >> Yeah. No, no.

[1:24:47] » Um if I could um if if I could, mayor, if I could just address that for a

[1:24:52] minute. >> Sure.

[1:24:54] » Yeah. One of the things that the grant resolution says is that the proposed

[1:25:00] resolution would terminate the $37 million funding. And then it says the

[1:25:06] unserved locations in the original project will not be subject to a grant

[1:25:13] commitment and may be eligible for future rounds of funding. What my

[1:25:20] interpretation of that language is is when it says the unserved locations in

[1:25:25] the original project will not be subject to a grant commitment. That means that

[1:25:30] if this resolution is granted that that $37 million funding goes back into the

[1:25:36] general pool and is not held out for the unserved location of Avalon.

[1:25:43] » So we could lose all the way >> based on Okay. I hadn't I didn't read

[1:25:47] that part. So that's cool. Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:25:52] » You want to come in? >> Sure. Happy to. So

[1:25:58] having worked on this for six years being very surprised by the fact that I

[1:26:04] received a recision email from the CPU from Nora who's our government liaison

[1:26:09] for this the PUC on the 6th. And that's how I we found out about it and I

[1:26:14] forwarded it on to city staff at that point and to Lanceware. Um,

[1:26:19] we were all surprised by it. He was not surprised by it. Um, this is something

[1:26:24] that's been ongoing, I guess, and that had been ongoing for a while.

[1:26:28] My hope is that he's able to resolve the

[1:26:34] requirements of what they're asking for, which includes

[1:26:39] um requirements like proof of policies for nepotism, proof of needs for

[1:26:46] purchasing a home in a vehicle um underneath this set of funds. um that

[1:26:53] he's able to provide proof that those are the requirements that he needs or

[1:26:57] he's able to say I don't actually need those and I can move forward with a

[1:27:00] project without them. Um my understanding is there's also litigation

[1:27:04] ongoing with them as well and so he hasn't been able to necessarily speak

[1:27:09] super freely about any of this because of that with me and so um I don't want

[1:27:14] to have to lose 6 years worth of work. I don't want to have to um take the chance

[1:27:20] that the PUC says we're rescending this and we're not going to keep the money

[1:27:25] for the project because I know how long that hill back up to being able to do

[1:27:29] this project is. That being said, I also

[1:27:34] um before I had read the exhibits on the letter, I had emailed directly Lance and

[1:27:41] the city manager and had asked, "How can we help? What can we do?" and then read

[1:27:46] the exhibits and was quite surprised because of the use of what the funds

[1:27:51] were being used to purchase. Um, I think, you know, as often as we're able

[1:27:57] currently to approve price increases and change orders and new projects and

[1:28:02] things that we've budgeted for, managing public funds, especially to the

[1:28:07] tune of this much money, is key and needs to be able to be justified under

[1:28:14] the rules of the grant and just to any citizen that asks why you're doing what

[1:28:17] you're doing. And I think I feel very comfortable in the choices that I've

[1:28:21] voted for and approved and said yes to through the city all this time. And some

[1:28:27] of these to me seem very interesting and don't fit with the scope of what the

[1:28:32] grant originally may have included. I can see where the justifications are for

[1:28:37] some of them and I can also see the opposite side of that. So, I feel like

[1:28:43] in terms of both the integrity of the city and being able to provide as much

[1:28:48] support as possible, the draft letter does do that. I like the draft letter. I

[1:28:52] think we should send it. Public comment closes on the 3. The actual hearings on

[1:28:57] the 17th. I will, by a really weird stroke of luck be actually up in

[1:29:01] Stockton with the kiddos for that week, but I won't be able to go to Sacramento

[1:29:05] as I did in December to support this project and be there for the hearing,

[1:29:09] which was a fun and exciting several hours with Jim in the audience at that

[1:29:13] hearing in Sacramento. Um, so I am hopeful that the PUC

[1:29:21] um understands how important this project is. I'm hopeful that Lance and

[1:29:25] the PUC are able to come to agreement on what is possible and make that happen.

[1:29:30] Um, but at this time I think the letter of support is the right thing to do that

[1:29:33] we've that is drafted. >> Okay.

[1:29:37] » And you had said that you had seen some a bunch of some other letters that were

[1:29:41] written in support of AVX. >> So the I'm on the distribution list for

[1:29:47] the PUC for a couple of different grant applications that I signed up for

[1:29:50] probably four years ago. So, I get dozens of letters about other people's

[1:29:54] grants all the time. Um, so there have been a number of community members that

[1:29:59] have signed a letter of response um in support of this project and in support

[1:30:05] of Lance. Um, I don't think when they signed those they knew what the scope of

[1:30:09] the questioning was with regard to the letters that were being included in the

[1:30:14] recision documentation. Um, and so, you know, definitely

[1:30:19] recognized literally all but I think two of the names and two of the names were

[1:30:23] entities that I recognized. So, um, you know, I'm I'm glad that people are

[1:30:27] speaking up and wanting to see the project done. Um, but I also want to

[1:30:32] make sure that they understand that, you know, there's

[1:30:36] especially for the city, there's a lot of responsibility that goes into getting

[1:30:39] grants for things that we do. The city does an amazing job of tracking and

[1:30:44] being able to show justification and correspondence and receipts of

[1:30:48] everything that they do. And I don't know that the general public realizes

[1:30:52] just how much work they have to do to manage and administer these grants that

[1:30:55] we receive. Um, so I think that's the challenging part is that this is a

[1:31:00] federal grant. It's using federal public funds and there's a level of

[1:31:06] responsibility. um to quote one of my favorite movies with great power comes

[1:31:10] great responsibility. So um you know I think that um that is something where

[1:31:16] you know even just right now there was another communication that came through

[1:31:19] while we're sitting here on the dis from the CPU on this item from I believe

[1:31:23] Lance I don't know what the content said cuz I haven't opened it yet but um so um

[1:31:28] I know that comments will continue to flow in and we'll continue to receive

[1:31:31] those um and that's fine. You can definitely send your letters of support.

[1:31:36] I think that's important um because I think it is necessary and I think it is

[1:31:41] a project that's worthwhile and I do know also that Lance has put in a

[1:31:44] significant amount of money um already into this project of his own. And so,

[1:31:49] you know, the the challenge I just have is wanting to make sure that we we are

[1:31:54] not the PUC. We're not the one administering this grant. We

[1:31:57] unfortunately don't have control over what level of usage that money goes

[1:32:01] towards. But the rules for that grant were several pages long and very clear.

[1:32:07] Um, in terms of getting, you know, permission to make purchases, you have

[1:32:12] to have actual support for reimbursement. You have to do

[1:32:15] pre-approval for larger purchases that require specific review. Um, and so I

[1:32:21] think that's the part that is um something that is why we didn't take a

[1:32:25] position. The CPU is managing that part of the discussion. We're in support of

[1:32:30] this project. We want this project to happen. I'm hoping that it can be with

[1:32:33] Lance and it can continue forward. Even if it's not, I'm still in support of

[1:32:37] this project. >> Okay. Did we have somebody on Zoom

[1:32:42] earlier? Sorry for being so word. >> No, that's okay.

[1:32:47] » They haven't raised their hands. >> No.

[1:32:50] » Okay. Any further discussion or comments from anyone?

[1:32:55] » I [clears throat] if you recall, we did receive an email

[1:33:00] from Mr. Wear demanding that we take a stand one way

[1:33:05] or another and today we get an email from supporters don't do anything.

[1:33:12] » So I want to know why it was you need to take a stand and now it's don't do

[1:33:18] anything let let the hearing Yeah. >> Okay.

[1:33:20] » Um I am totally in favor of the program. I

[1:33:26] think that is important, but they need to work out their issues with the CPU.

[1:33:32] Um, but I think we need to send the letter saying because if we don't send

[1:33:36] that letter, they're going to look at it like, oh, well, the the city doesn't

[1:33:41] care, but we do. We totally support this grant bringing fiber to the island,

[1:33:49] » but it needs to be done the right way. So,

[1:33:54] » okay. So, if there's no further comments,

[1:33:56] » just real quickly, I I want to add I meant to add this earlier that the

[1:34:00] there's one issue in the in the draft resolution where the the CPC in the

[1:34:05] draft resolution, they talk about that there are no direct safety

[1:34:08] considerations or concerns. We address that in the letter because I believe

[1:34:13] there are uh where we sit. We talk about that in the letter that uh because of

[1:34:18] our geographical location reliable title communications infrastructure is

[1:34:22] essential to public safety public safety emergency response healthcare education

[1:34:27] government operations etc. So I what I said we don't disagree you know they

[1:34:33] don't address the needs that that is one thing that I would disagree with because

[1:34:36] of where we're at. So we do address that in the letter and make that clear which

[1:34:40] I think is important. So, is there a motion?

[1:34:48] » I'll make I'll make the motion to to >> Let's see. What do we want?

[1:34:53] » You know, he lost it, too. [cough] >> Uh to We discussed the response to the

[1:34:59] draft resolution on behalf of the city of Avalon. If consensus exists, approved

[1:35:03] letter to be submitted prior to filing deadline September 3rd, 2026 at 5:00

[1:35:08] p.m. So, I make that motion. >> Moved and seconded.

[1:35:11] » And there's no public comment. And if I could just there's no public comment. I

[1:35:16] hear a lot of clapping and so I don't know if there's public comment on this.

[1:35:20] » We're checking with Matt right now. >> Yeah. He said nobody put their hand up.

[1:35:24] » Nobody in the room. >> Nobody Nobody has reacted online.

[1:35:27] » No. >> And no comment in that.

[1:35:29] » Thank you. >> No, thank you. Call for the vote.

[1:35:35] » All eyes. Yep. >> Uh final item number seven. the cities

[1:35:40] in this uh capacity. Uh the following general business, Avalon City Council is

[1:35:45] acting as the housing authority. Uh 206 East Whitney retaining wall change order

[1:35:50] number two and hopefully final. >> Yes, final.

[1:35:57] Um, this item considers authorizing a second construction contract change

[1:36:02] order and increasing the contract sum by 171,318

[1:36:09] for a total not to exceed of $1.15853 million.

[1:36:15] Okay, some background. In developing uh a plan for a potential

[1:36:21] second building at 206 East Whitley, geotechnical engineers determined the

[1:36:27] existing retaining walls at the property's boundaries needed remediation

[1:36:32] to extend their service life in case the existing building or replacement in case

[1:36:37] of a new building due to corrosion on the existing tiebacks and age of the

[1:36:41] concrete. There was, you know, some very tall walls there, especially above the

[1:36:46] Hermosa Hotel that had existing tiebacks that were every four feet. They were

[1:36:52] like number five rebar and they were corroded. So the geotechnical engineers

[1:36:58] at the time was afraid if one of those went, the whole wall would go. So that

[1:37:03] would not support that second building. Um, in order to ensure the opportunity

[1:37:08] for the highest and best use for the property, staff proposed remediation the

[1:37:13] existing retaining wall and the additionally leveling and backfilling of

[1:37:18] the adjacent area up above that would widen and recapture areas of the

[1:37:23] southern portion of East Whitley public rightway at the 90 degree curve there as

[1:37:28] it heads down to Whitley right in front of the property. the elevation and

[1:37:33] further frontage improvements of the rideway would allow the on-site parking

[1:37:37] of nine future housing site units. So, it wouldn't be taking up um the public

[1:37:42] rideway with that parking for that housing. Um and then also provide three

[1:37:48] additional public parking spots right there adjacent to the side where Hermosa

[1:37:53] Hotel was or is. And uh while this redu uh while this widening would reduce one

[1:38:00] informal unmaintained access to the back of the Hermaso Hotel, there was a

[1:38:05] driveway, a little driveway that went back and it was in terrible shape, was

[1:38:09] not maintained. It was a liability to the city. So what we did, we ended up

[1:38:13] raising everything and all of that parking wouldn't be just for the Hermosa

[1:38:17] Hotel and that private drive that driveway which was in the public rideway

[1:38:22] but would be available for all of those residents in that corner there and in a

[1:38:27] safe location. Okay. So that was really the plan that we had.

[1:38:33] Okay. So initially the project design utilize an MSE wall. This is no

[1:38:38] different than what we'll be using out in the landfill. And so it's a MSC wall

[1:38:43] is a mechanically stabilized earth wall. And the way that we do those is we built

[1:38:49] with blocks that interlock along the face and we kind of batter those on a

[1:38:53] slope. And then about every other one we put a piece of geoteexile fabric that

[1:38:59] goes back into the fill. Then we uh compact the fill on top of that. And we

[1:39:04] just keep on repeating that. So that you know that geoteexo fabric locked into

[1:39:09] that face of that wall is what holds and retains that very simple system. We

[1:39:14] thought it was a really good fit for this project. Um, but once we got down

[1:39:20] into the bottom of the excavation right at the uh property line with Hermosa, we

[1:39:25] found that we didn't have it started a point where we'd have to be chasing it

[1:39:31] down into the Hermosa property. So, we went back into a more conventional

[1:39:35] design. Okay. So, Jordal Construction's been

[1:39:40] working diligently on this project. We did get stalled when we had to redesign.

[1:39:43] So that's why you've seen a very extended period of time, but we're

[1:39:47] almost done. Um, however, working on the lower extent of the westernly property

[1:39:52] determining lower retaining wall like I had said did not have the structural

[1:39:56] support for the proposed MSE wall and so that's why we moved to the other one. Um

[1:40:03] the we did come in and ask for cont uh contract change order one and it was my

[1:40:08] understanding when I was negotiating that that there was a cost savings with

[1:40:12] Jord of 171 318 it was and that was not really the case. It was that there was

[1:40:20] whatever was remaining and this additional uh initial uh change order

[1:40:26] one cost. So before when I presented it, I said there was a reduction on it and

[1:40:32] it came down to $270,000 to the contract and really it was and

[1:40:38] that was additive on top of what was already existing in other contracts. So

[1:40:43] there was some miscommunication between the contractor and I and but the value

[1:40:47] was needed to be able to complete the project and I'll show you that here just

[1:40:51] to just to see that for your own eyes that we are receiving that value and you

[1:40:57] see really the extent of this. Okay. So, this is we're at the very

[1:41:04] bottom of the of the wall and there's a uh rebar footing that's double rebar and

[1:41:11] so you can see the guy's walking on that that's 24 in thick and it's rebar every

[1:41:16] 8 in and a double matte slab and it's 10 feet wide and that's so that this can

[1:41:22] support um the fill because of a tall wall but it also can fill what we look

[1:41:28] at in engineering as the searchcharge load for a building also So to be able

[1:41:32] to put that pressure on that wall. So that's why it has to be something that

[1:41:37] is almost like a bunker. Okay. You can see it closer in there.

[1:41:42] You can see the significant amount of work. You can also see to the right

[1:41:47] there that there's the homosa. There's a wall down there where we don't want to

[1:41:51] depend on that wall, that little retaining wall that was backed by that

[1:41:55] road. We want to be able to build this wall and have it stand on its own. You

[1:42:00] also can see behind the worker there, there's another trench that's down there

[1:42:06] below that and that's another two foot deep and that's called a key and that

[1:42:10] keeps the whole thing from sliding. So this thing is like a tea and with this

[1:42:16] rebar mat that's two foot thick of concrete and it's locked into the

[1:42:21] hillside. So it's it's has a very significant safety factor here. We can

[1:42:26] depend on this to to do its job for decades to come.

[1:42:33] This is after we get that foundation poured. We have a block wall that starts

[1:42:37] the bottom of it. You can see um excuse me, I got wrong way. Here is

[1:42:44] the footing. It's poured and ready to receive the block wall.

[1:42:49] Now, we put the block wall in to start it. And then um really what also

[1:42:55] supports this is there was tiebacks that were drilled into the rock back with

[1:43:02] number nine uh rebar. So inch and an eighth. It was drilled back in and put

[1:43:07] 10 foot back into the rock and then came back into this wall. And you'll see how

[1:43:13] that's done right here. Uh there still that

[1:43:17] um this is the waterproofing before we back filled. Here's the cages that hold

[1:43:22] that tieback and that's placed on top of that um that block wall. And now it

[1:43:29] becomes reinforced concrete. And so that's called a grade beam. You can see

[1:43:35] here that those cages are now placed and soon you're going to see the tiebacks

[1:43:40] connected to them because they're they're short. They're short little

[1:43:43] stubs in the hillside and then we extend them.

[1:43:47] Okay, you can see the tiebacks now coming out an angle.

[1:43:54] You can see that the walls ra the reinforced concrete portion with a a

[1:44:00] significant amount of steel. Here we're pumping the concrete.

[1:44:06] Here is finished product of the tieback wall with a concrete wall con to the con

[1:44:12] the tiebacks going into the concrete wall which was built on top of the uh

[1:44:17] block wall. Here we back filled it and it will has

[1:44:24] holes for a fence up top. Here you can see this upper wall. That's

[1:44:30] where the parking and that extension in the rideway. That's what I The wall down

[1:44:35] below we call wall A. The one that we're working on almost finished is wall B.

[1:44:40] The one that goes 90 degrees approximately to that.

[1:44:44] Here we're working on wall B. Now you can see we're in the back around the

[1:44:48] Hermosa Hotel. And that taller wall, this whole area here, this taller,

[1:44:53] that's going to be up at the level of the road. And that's so that parking can

[1:44:57] pull in. And then when the housing is built, it actually can have decks uh

[1:45:02] second story decks overhanging the parking. So you're not losing that space

[1:45:06] for square footage there. You know, it's just tucked in nicely. Would have a

[1:45:10] walkway there, have all the parking in front for all the units there and it

[1:45:15] would be outside. So one of the other benefits in the public rideway here is

[1:45:20] now we've moved that parking which was on the road off the road. Now we have a

[1:45:25] delivery zone. We have emergency access zone right in front of this property.

[1:45:30] And it's always been problematic when you try to turn that corner and somebody

[1:45:34] has to deliver or whatever there, you know, or the emergency services going

[1:45:39] down uh the stairs that they'll have someplace to be in that where the

[1:45:44] parking was now and be right there. So the full road will be open to pass all

[1:45:49] that. Okay. So um improvements to the safety of the road and additional

[1:45:56] parking for those area for the residents in that area.

[1:46:02] Okay. So what I wanted to show you that for is the value. You know that you're

[1:46:07] saying are really if we're issuing a change order of this size are we really

[1:46:12] truly getting the value? We think we are. Okay. And that's why we're

[1:46:15] presenting this to you. We think that uh Jordall Construction has given us a fair

[1:46:20] price and has diligently done the work. Uh we just want to be able to close out

[1:46:25] and complete the project. So that's what's in front of you. Any questions?

[1:46:29] » I just kind of have overall questions. So

[1:46:35] do we know for sure that another five units are actually going to be put on

[1:46:39] that property? Um, I don't I can't say we know for sure

[1:46:45] that our our goal is to maximize the value of it. Okay?

[1:46:49] » Because then I'm thinking we've already got four units there. So basically the

[1:46:53] four units are paid for. This is a million dollar. So that's about $110,000

[1:47:00] we would put into those nine units, right? I mean split that million dollars

[1:47:04] over the nine units. and then we build a five units for whatever and now we're

[1:47:11] guaranteed we're going to get housing cuz because I also so this isn't so much

[1:47:19] a question for you I guess as as with the city manager. So we paid for that

[1:47:24] with lowinccome money or whatever, right?

[1:47:27] » So there's really if we do a swap there's really no money change. How do

[1:47:32] we put that money back into what would be low income if we're building

[1:47:36] workforce housing? How how does that >> Well, those are two different things of

[1:47:42] what we're trying to do back here, right?

[1:47:44] » Sorry. On Tmont. Okay. That that's not using uh we're not proposing to do that

[1:47:50] project with housing money. That's why we're pursu pursuing other funding with

[1:47:53] that. >> Um so 206 East Whitley, as you know, was

[1:47:57] purchased with housing funds. So those that property and th that housing would

[1:48:01] have to be designated for what those funds were designated. If we go a

[1:48:06] different direction with that property, whatever proportionate share, say $3

[1:48:11] million of value goes into another project and that's 25% of the new

[1:48:16] project and 25% of the new project's housing would have to be low income. So

[1:48:21] we would keep track of that. But right now the goal was to maximize that 206

[1:48:27] site for the most housing we could get up there.

[1:48:30] » So do we have any idea? Okay. We bought it for 28 23 or whenever way back in the

[1:48:36] day. >> 2008.

[1:48:39] » That was a long time ago. >> Was it about 2008 when

[1:48:42] » Okay. So we So that was about 2.8 we spent or 2.3 million or something. So,

[1:48:49] what is the value of that property, especially with all of the because the

[1:48:54] improvements that that million dollars really is worth more than a million

[1:48:58] dollars? >> Yeah, we we have a we have an appraisal

[1:49:00] of that property and we can make that available to council.

[1:49:02] » I'm just going to curious. >> Okay.

[1:49:04] » We can get that to you. >> Okay.

[1:49:08] » But my comment on it is like we've had this property since 2008

[1:49:13] and >> we still really haven't built anything

[1:49:16] on it. So it would be nice to do something. So

[1:49:20] » yep. >> Oh, I know.

[1:49:21] » My comment is why does it take so long to get

[1:49:25] » get these projects? You write diligently a couple times and that means to go

[1:49:29] fast, get it done three years and we're still pouring cement and getting change

[1:49:35] orders. So like I expressed I think a previous

[1:49:40] council meeting, we have limited resources with our contractors and we

[1:49:46] try to keep as much as possible when uh we do bid these that these are local

[1:49:53] resources actually bidding it, but they go out to a public bid and sometimes

[1:49:59] it's on this one it was actually um the uh because of the extra engineering that

[1:50:08] kind of stalled things and then it got everything kind of out of the flow of,

[1:50:13] you know, the contractor that was working with the personnel on there and

[1:50:16] then we brought them over to Five Corners and having those limited

[1:50:20] resources kind of got it the flow going. Could have happened better. Um, we're

[1:50:25] almost at the very end of it now. Um, there is a very good value to this site.

[1:50:31] I mean, it has new utilities that we put in, has new frontage improvements, it

[1:50:36] has the ability, you know, to support the nine units there. So, for the

[1:50:42] community, I mean, this there's very few properties that could do what this

[1:50:46] property could do in this community. >> When's Five Corner going to be done?

[1:50:53] » So, we're uh I I plan on giving council an update on this next meeting. Okay.

[1:50:59] And so you'll see a fuel a full slide deck. But the short answer that I can

[1:51:05] offer today is that we're planning on paving in October. When you see paving

[1:51:09] going out there, we're getting near completion. Okay.

[1:51:12] » I'm just getting worried. We got so many capital improvement projects. Every time

[1:51:16] you turn around, you're moving over here, you're moving over there.

[1:51:18] Nothing's getting done.

[1:51:23] » For sure. Yeah. >> Yeah. We can give, you know, very

[1:51:27] detailed reports on where we're at on each one of them.

[1:51:30] » I'd love to see that. Every report, how much you've spent, that'd be great. I'd

[1:51:35] love to see that. >> Okay. We can work on that. Okay. We'd

[1:51:38] love to do that. Um, we do have other items still kind of pending here. We

[1:51:42] haven't voted on that, have we? I'll make a motion to authorize city

[1:51:48] manager or his design to execute the second amendment to the construction

[1:51:52] contract between the city of Avalon and Georgeall Construction Inc.

[1:51:56] Incorporating change order number two and increasing the contra

[1:52:01] [clears throat] contract sum by $171,318

[1:52:05] for a total not to exceed an amount of 1,158,573

[1:52:11] uh to amend the fiscal year 2627 budget by allocating an additional 100,000 to

[1:52:18] the capital improvement project. >> How do I speak?

[1:52:20] » Uh 205015. >> Do you want to speak on this item, Mary?

[1:52:25] » Fun. Yes. >> Excuse me.

[1:52:28] » 325-6547.

[1:52:32] » Okay. Before before we have the motion voted on, we have a p member of the

[1:52:37] public that would like to speak on this item.

[1:52:40] » Oh. Oh, excellent. Okay. >> Hi, Mary Shikling 139 Whitley. Um, I

[1:52:47] know this is a new system and and it was uh brought about by the Brown Act, but

[1:52:52] just to let you know there's a glitches, but I did have a question regarding um

[1:52:58] Bob's last statement. What does he mean by there's um very few properties on

[1:53:03] this island that can do what this one can do? What do you mean by that?

[1:53:08] » He's coming to the podium. >> Okay.

[1:53:13] So when we as you develop a property, I mean, you're looking to have it ready to

[1:53:19] go. The are the utilities there? Yes, we put in brand new solar. We put in uh we

[1:53:25] upgraded the portable water connection. Um we've uh addressed the gas lines

[1:53:32] there. We addressed the electric. uh we have taken what what it was a

[1:53:39] substandard retaining wall and now made it have the ability to support an

[1:53:46] additional building. So all of that was calculated in the loads. So like when I

[1:53:51] say a search charge that it could support a building. So there's not many

[1:53:57] available uh pieces of property that could do that could add up to nine units

[1:54:04] and have provide nine units >> and that have all

[1:54:07] » okay that have all the utilities and all the infrastructure and all the parking.

[1:54:10] So all of those things that planning commission would that would be asking

[1:54:13] and looking for to be addressed we've already uh taken that on and addressed

[1:54:19] that as we uh put together the project. >> Okay. Okay, I got you there. Um, but the

[1:54:27] a couple of council meetings ago when you said that we were we don't have the

[1:54:33] funding for the quote unquote civic center housing behind the um the complex

[1:54:40] there. Um, and this one is costing way more than the civic center housing. And

[1:54:47] I know that Dave, you just said that we're not using housing funds because

[1:54:53] Um the this project was first purchased with housing funds, but and 25% of it

[1:55:01] has to be low income. So why can't 25% of the civic center, which would provide

[1:55:08] way more housing than this property would and get that project going, you

[1:55:15] know, because this one's been sitting there since 2008.

[1:55:20] Uh I I would just say that I said we are using housing funds for the 206 East

[1:55:26] Whitley project. We we did not anticipate using housing funds for the

[1:55:32] uh the civic center housing directly behind city hall because we didn't want

[1:55:36] to encumber that property with the restrictions that the housing funds

[1:55:39] have. If we can do that, one of the options obviously would be, you know, if

[1:55:44] we make the determination from a funding standpoint and we have additional

[1:55:47] housing funds, we could do that. we could we could include that those 26

[1:55:51] units and proportionally have six or eight or four of them, however that

[1:55:55] works out designated for that. That is an option. Um we're we're trying to

[1:56:00] explore and see where we go with, you know, Congressman Garcia's earmark, you

[1:56:04] know, if that comes to fruition of where we're at, if we can build that project

[1:56:07] without it. So that's that's what we're evaluating on the civic center side.

[1:56:12] » Okay. Well, we just we have an excruciating need for housing and the

[1:56:16] whole time that the four years that I was there, I was under the impression

[1:56:20] that we had um funds secured for the civic center project and I don't know

[1:56:27] where the funds went.

[1:56:31] » Well, they didn't go anywhere. We still have funds left over because of the 44

[1:56:36] unit. If we can acquire land for our secondary phase of housing, we would

[1:56:41] like to use those housing funds in the larger unit. So, we do still have I

[1:56:46] believe three three and a half million in housing funds left.

[1:56:51] » Yeah, it was and I think some of the issue with the housing was is we are

[1:56:56] building a lot of big projects. Uh like council member Lopez said, we have a lot

[1:57:01] of projects. We have a lot of uh cash flow going out. We want to get to the

[1:57:07] point where uh we've got the mole underway. Once we get u a definite value

[1:57:13] on on a project as big as the mole, which is coming up, I mean within the

[1:57:18] next six months, we're going to know exactly what that construction value is.

[1:57:21] We're working on it right now. Then, you know, then we can have a better sense of

[1:57:26] of the cash flow that would be needed uh to build this uh uh the housing

[1:57:32] projects.

[1:57:35] Okay, thank you for your time. >> We also have another public speaker.

[1:57:44] » Go ahead, Susanna. >> Hi, my name is Susanna Gutierrez 139

[1:57:49] Whitley. Um, I just wanted to follow up on what

[1:57:53] you guys were discussing. I appreciate you mentioning the remaining balance of

[1:57:56] the affordable housing fund. Um it so from my understanding it looks like

[1:58:01] we've spent a little over a million dollars and we have three million left

[1:58:06] for the 2060 Whitley property and I was just curious if there was a cost

[1:58:10] estimate for renovating the existing structure and if there is an estimated

[1:58:14] start date for renovating those buildings or if that's still um if

[1:58:19] that's pending conversation or pending you know completion of the site

[1:58:23] improvement. Yeah, I would say the restoration

[1:58:27] existing is still pending. >> Yes.

[1:58:31] » We don't. >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:58:34] » Are you saying restoration of the four units?

[1:58:37] » Yeah. The existing building. >> Existing.

[1:58:39] » Yeah. And additional when we entered into this, we had the plans for the

[1:58:44] renovation of the existing building and then we had a tenative plan that we

[1:58:49] would have brought to planning commission for an additional five units.

[1:58:57] Okay. Continue.

[1:59:02] » Have a motion. Right. >> I can make the motion. Yeah.

[1:59:05] » So, I'll second. >> Second call.

[1:59:15] » Uh, four eyes, one no. Council member Lopez.

[1:59:21] » All right. No further. Thank you for >> anything meeting agenda.

[1:59:29] That's

September 1, 2026 City Council Meeting

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