[0:00] So, I officially declared the meeting open at 7.30. Je declare la séance ouvert et je vais passer le micro à conseilleur Caron pour l'adoption de l'ordre de jour.

[0:13] I move to adopt the agenda of the regular council meeting of Tuesday, September 8, 2026 as drafted.

[0:20] Second, please. Thank you, Councillor Chartrand. All in favour? Perfect.

[0:25] Now we're at the first period of questions. We're at first question period. So as always,

[0:32] as usual, if you have a question that is not on the agenda, you can present it to the

[0:38] microphone with your name and your question. If you want to explain a little before

[0:45] asking your question, you're welcome. And after that, if you have a sub-question,

[0:53] You're welcome to come to the microphone if you have a question that is not on the agenda.

[0:57] That's how first question period works.

[1:00] Your name, your address, and your question.

[1:03] And if you have a preamble, you're welcome to it.

[1:06] And you're welcome to a sub-question on the same topic if you don't feel that you

[1:12] have received an adequate response.

[1:15] So be my guest.

[1:22] Good evening.

[1:23] Good evening.

[1:25] My name is Hugh Opton.

[1:31] I live at 678 Surrey.

[1:35] That is Maxwell.

[1:37] Resident, senior resident.

[1:41] And I also represent the, or I'm the chair,

[1:49] Chairman, Chairperson of the Maxwell Residence Council that represented 110 of the residents.

[2:03] I'm having a little bit of the light to be here.

[2:06] Recently, the new owner of the Maxwell unilaterally removed approximately 20 residence blockers

[2:22] and converted the area into a hair-dressing salon while simultaneously

[2:34] The lights, I'm sorry, it's just because it's a little dark in here and I know Mr. Upton was, is that better?

[2:42] Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Nicholas.

[2:48] Yeah,

[2:52] she's simultaneously, and in this adjacent area, created a one of us bar, offering beauty

[3:02] services to clients other than the residents of Maxwell.

[3:09] The promotion of this can be found on Facebook under the title Maison Oolong and that is

[3:20] spelled Maison because Oolong is double O-L-O-N-G. Now my question to the council is does the

[3:34] current zoning law permits this facility, in this instance, the senior residence, to enable

[3:44] and offer commercial services to non-residents of the facility. In other words, outsiders.

[3:57] If this is a violation of a bylaw, or bylaws, what steps can and will be initiated by council

[4:11] to the infraction?

[4:16] That is my question.

[4:19] Okay. Well, first of all, thank you very much for coming out this evening. I'm happy to see the walkway

[4:24] being done because that's the last time we saw you and we actioned it and so thank you so much for

[4:30] coming out and speaking. I might defer some to Mr. Bouchard but to answer your question does the

[4:37] zoning currently permit commercial? Currently the zoning is for a senior's residence and with

[4:45] that there are accessory services that they can provide to their residents. The details of

[4:55] exactly how that works with an RPA would fall to the administration in the urban planning department

[5:02] to look into. The second part of your question is if there is a violation, what would council

[5:09] do. So council discusses and sets the bylaws for zoning and permitted uses

[5:17] and not and it is the role of administration to oversee the

[5:22] implementation of those bylaws. It does not fall into the council to we don't

[5:28] handle the day-to-day operational side of it. It's more a question of adopting

[5:37] the bylaws how we feel that this town should be run. These bylaws do predate this council.

[5:44] So thank you very much for bringing the question forward. If you have anything you would like

[5:49] to add in compliment, Mr. Bouchard?

[5:54] Just one minute, Mr. Alton, please.

[5:57] In this case, I will just add some elements to the subject.

[6:05] Les usages complémentaires, so complementary uses are authorized in NRPA.

[6:15] It has to be services provided to the people that rents or live in the facility

[6:21] and technically their family.

[6:24] So, if you have somebody taking care of their mother or their son or whatever who lives

[6:32] there and there's somebody cutting hair, technically the person helping is authorized to get her

[6:39] hair cut.

[6:42] But that stops there.

[6:45] It should not be a commercial use that's aimed to have residents that don't live in the

[6:53] facility to be served because otherwise it becomes a commercial use and then

[7:01] the zoning doesn't meet it's not authorized so what what we will see if what

[7:09] you say is is right and I'm not disputing that I haven't seen it with my own eyes

[7:15] and neither have the inspectors but we will closely monitor this to see what

[7:20] kind of use is done there to see if it conforms. And one of the elements that we have to keep

[7:29] in mind is the security and the safety of the user of the building themselves. So, and

[7:36] I don't know how you could do that if there is not another door to have access to such

[7:41] facility and if everybody has to come up with a single front door. But again, I take

[7:48] good note of what you say and we'll keep this we'll monitor this closely just on

[7:56] a separate note actually two separate notes one relating to this the I believe

[8:04] there I'm told and I have not seen it with my own eyes that there is to be a

[8:12] grand opening, close on quote, on September the 17th. Now what that entails, I don't know,

[8:20] but there will probably be a demonstration or evidence of, well, there'll be public interest,

[8:28] but I don't think anybody necessarily will be availing themselves of the services during

[8:34] a grand opening. That said, I would like to take this opportunity, if I may, to

[8:40] thank the council and the public works for the reconstruction of the sidewalk

[8:49] between Churchill and Morgan. This is greatly appreciated by the residents

[8:57] and will make walking the walking effort so much easier for these old people

[9:04] who are now one year older than the initial request. The public service initiative anyway

[9:15] is greatly appreciated by the Maxwell residents and I'm probably sure that by the other residents

[9:24] on Surrey as well. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[9:44] I have a very quick question if the town is envisaging to develop like many other municipalities

[9:51] an AI policy, not by laws but policies, like for example, Beaumont or others, and especially

[10:01] in regard to law 25 privacy laws. It's a matter of transparency and oversight and data protection.

[10:10] So I just wanted to know if this has been discussed. Thank you. Thank you for your question.

[10:16] Council hasn't just had that topic at the table. It's interesting that you brought it up because

[10:22] I had written myself a note as one of the many things that I bring to Nicholas on a daily

[10:28] basis to talk about but I haven't had a chance to discuss that with him but I know that he has been

[10:34] working with his team testing out the waters on AI and lots of towns have gone full force into

[10:41] AI very quickly. I'm kind of surprised but I'll let you speak to your approach.

[10:49] Thank you Madam Mayor. Thank you for the question. I indeed have an active AI committee

[10:55] that's been looking at this for the last two years. Many departments are

[11:01] represented to look out at what are currently the best practices throughout

[11:08] North America I'm gonna say because we know of very good policies that were

[11:14] adopted in the town of Boston that's one of them if you want to look it up but

[11:20] But we are definitely going to have to adopt one, mainly because towns are faced with the

[11:27] protection of information of what we have.

[11:30] And in order to feed an AI system, you have to feed it with data that are sometimes protected

[11:36] and you get into a very gray zone.

[11:41] So eventually we will have to adopt a policy to deal with that.

[11:47] Thank you for your question.

[11:49] Susan Hocker, 20787 Lakeshore. I sit on the Environmental Advisory Committee and Heidi

[11:58] has suggested that I come to council to raise my other concerns because we have a mandate that

[12:05] we're doing very well with. We're rewilding the hydroline area and it's coming along beautifully.

[12:14] So thank you to Wanda and Maggie and Heidi. Thank you.

[12:20] So the issues that I have to, I'd like to raise.

[12:24] As you know, in 2006 with Maria Tatino was here, we tried to raise the concept of bicycle pass.

[12:35] The up and vertical streets north and south are fine like you can drive a bicycle safely on those streets.

[12:43] It's the three horizontal streets, Lakeshore, Victoria, and Surrey that are most challenging.

[12:54] And given climate change, we do want to, I would like to think Council would like to

[12:58] encourage more people to use their bikes and use less cars.

[13:02] If there was a safe, I know at my age, and certainly with, I see people with kids on

[13:09] biking.

[13:11] And especially as on Victoria with three schools, it would make sense to have a bike path. I

[13:18] saw that we're doing the pedestrian path on Surrey, but that's not wide enough, I guess,

[13:24] for bikes. It should have been, I think. It would have been nice if it was, since 20 years ago,

[13:31] we started talking about bike paths. So it would be lovely if there was a proper safe route,

[13:38] because there are a lot of bicyclists that take that food.

[13:43] And it leads perfectly to the little

[13:45] paths that are at the west end of the town. So that was one issue. That was 20 years ago.

[13:52] We had a whole campaign. We pulled the whole town. The majority suggested we needed a bike path,

[14:00] and Maria Tutino said, no, not my mandate. Will we do that? I figured it just took time,

[14:06] but we still haven't done it. So I'm just reiterating. So that's my first issue.

[14:14] And I'll expect an answer at some point. Well, I can speak to it in a very small way. Of course,

[14:21] some people around this table were not around the table when we worked on the Surrey project.

[14:27] The engineer did propose options to try and accommodate a bike path on Surrey when we

[14:35] re-did that project and it was not approved by council. Other streets like Lakeshore and Victoria,

[14:44] the challenges are different in the sense that we would have to look at expropriating land from

[14:51] homeowners, which... There are ways that if you... Because we're now...

[15:00] Yeah, I want to thank you, first of all, for bringing it up again so this council can hear

[15:06] from others.

[15:10] And the second issue is the hazardous waste. So thank you for this Saturday coming. They're

[15:16] having paper shredding and tires and electronics.

[15:23] Being at this end of the island, we're not

[15:29] required to go to Saint Laurent or La Salle.

[15:33] And it's just, if you want to make people

[15:36] to actually do the right thing, it helps if it's easy.

[15:40] Currently, I take my corks to Point Claire.

[15:42] I take my pill bottles to Merging Waters.

[15:45] I take my cyrofoam to Point Claire.

[15:49] I take my dental stuff to Beaconsville Library.

[15:53] I take my light bulbs to Rona and paint.

[16:00] If there was one spot, and I have forwarded that to the environmental committee in St.

[16:07] Jerome, there's planning a place where people can actually bring everything.

[16:11] It would be nice to have something on the West Island.

[16:14] We need to do that.

[16:16] So thank you very much.

[16:17] And to clarify, because Mrs. Susan sits, lots of topics get brought up.

[16:22] the, when we have committees, those people are passionate about the topic. We try and

[16:29] give space around that table to let committee members raise those points. However, we work

[16:35] on mandates. So, as Mrs. Hawker said, we have a mandate that Maggie and Wanda have

[16:41] been working on together with the Environment Committee, and I tend many, not all the meetings.

[16:47] But when topics like this get brought up, while we do have a discussion, I encourage

[16:51] people to bring it forward to all of council. So that's why thank you very much for coming out

[16:56] tonight. For those of you who know, we used to have a hazardous waste pickup through the agglomeration

[17:03] of Montreal, who's responsible for disposing of hazardous waste. And in my humble opinion,

[17:08] in a very short-sighted last-minute decision at the last budget cycle, we were notified at the

[17:21] So we're legally not allowed to dispose of it, even if we wanted to.

[17:29] I know Mr. Bouchard is following it with other towns to see what they're doing because, again,

[17:35] we know that there are other towns who are doing it.

[17:38] Technically, unless they have an agreement with Montreal,

[17:41] their councils could be brought to a commission because it's an agglomeration responsibility.

[17:49] It's not a municipal responsibility, but I don't want you to think that you're here tonight

[17:55] following on deaf ears.

[17:56] It's something that I know I'm very passionate about and I know many around this table are.

[18:01] I don't know if you have any information yet.

[18:03] You're following it, but we want to see how it's going because, as I mentioned to Susan,

[18:09] if we did get approval and Montreal agrees to come pick it up, if they don't pick

[18:14] it up right away, we could be putting our whole town at a risk by having an area in

[18:18] our town that has a concentration of hazardous waste which we weren't

[18:22] comfortable with.

[18:25] That was exactly the point I wanted to make so we where we

[18:29] stand right now is that and every municipality is dealing with the same

[18:35] problem so is Dorval.

[18:39] Dorval's DG had the mandate from their council to

[18:42] build one for Dorval residents only but he's dealing with the same issue which

[18:48] which is you cannot dispose of the waste you collected because that's an aglo-responsibility,

[18:53] so Montreal has to do it.

[18:55] The problem is if you have an event that's, let's say, set on a Saturday or a Sunday and

[19:04] Montreal is supposed to pick them up on the Monday and they don't, you need to secure

[19:10] this stuff in the hazard protected that meets the code type of thing and we are we are incapable

[19:18] of storing this anywhere and we don't want to store this. So the issue is can Montreal commit

[19:26] to a date and commit to a date which would be a date for it could be a joint date for many

[19:32] municipalities so we're sure that on the money on the Monday this stuff goes out then we could

[19:39] be coming back at it with a regular event or a different at a location if there was a location

[19:47] on the West Island. Yes, that's another topic that I'm currently discussing with Montreal's

[19:53] DG preference. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[20:04] Farzat Shujaitu, I know a quick question regarding the flood zone map. Recently the government

[20:12] posted a new flood zone map on their website, which shows many, many, many, all those water

[20:24] front properties are affected.

[20:28] In 2017 and 2019, I do not recall, there were a couple

[20:36] of them, they were flooded, but not many of them. They stopped the implementation of that

[20:43] flood zone map and on their website they say that they are in discussions with municipalities.

[20:48] So I'm just wondering if you can give us an update.

[20:56] There you go.

[20:57] Well, the last discussion we had was with the Montreal community, the CMM, and they have

[21:05] the responsibility to approve the maps for the greater Montreal region.

[21:11] And the last map that I saw that was shared with me from the CMM, we had none of the

[21:19] properties in better faith that would be affected only some backyards in in a couple of residences

[21:27] but that was it so I am very curious of what you've seen yes please okay there were some that like

[21:41] mr. Bush said that touch touch some property lines a plus Wilson there's a house under construction

[21:48] That shows the entire lot that is on the flood zone.

[21:54] I checked it two days ago.

[21:55] I know Mr. Bouchard can double check this, but I did see an e-m-

[21:58] I can make a screenshot and send it to you.

[22:02] Thank you.

[22:03] I did see that the CMM has requested from Quebec to put a hold on these flood zone maps,

[22:09] so whether Quebec went ahead and released it without the CMM's approval,

[22:14] That would be to validate, but nobody's home was under water the last time we were given the map.

[22:21] Thank you for raising it.

[22:24] Any other questions?

[22:31] Thank you.

[22:40] So we continue.

[22:42] Our commander is not here tonight.

[22:44] So we go to the report of the councilors on the activities of the city, the council reports.

[22:50] And we have two reports, one from Councillor Brown and then from Councillor Lowenstein.

[22:54] And then we will continue on with the meeting, Councillor Brown.

[22:58] Thank you.

[23:00] I'd like to give the Public Safety Report for the month of August.

[23:04] And I'll begin with the Emergency Measures Committee.

[23:07] The Emergency Measures, excuse me, Emergency Measures Committee met in August.

[23:12] And we rescheduled the simulation event that we mentioned in July to be held at the Red Barn

[23:20] and the Public Works Building from October 3rd to October 24th due to preparations for the Quebec

[23:27] Collections on the first weekend of October. There are a number of volunteers that will likely be

[23:33] working at the polls and having training so we need them for the simulation events so we decided

[23:39] to move everything later in the month on the 24th and the purpose of this event is to validate

[23:46] our town's response plan and work together with volunteers to practice command and coordination

[23:52] and build the skills needed to handle real-life emergencies. So that will be on October 24th.

[23:59] Now I'll move on to Sovatesh Bidurfi rescue and their activity report for August.

[24:07] So the rescue squad provided 470 combined volunteer hours in August. It was a busy month

[24:14] for them. And these are the highlights. On August 1st, the rescue squad hosted the annual

[24:20] vintage car show. And I think a number of you are there. I noticed a few faces of people

[24:26] that were there. I was there too. And it was a good day. And they had this year, I believe

[24:34] it was 127 cars. I didn't count them, but that was the number that I saw. And a very

[24:40] nice sunny day and very well attended event, so that that was successful. Thank you to the Rescue

[24:46] Squad. And on August the 8th, the Rescue Squad participated in the local missing person search

[24:53] in our town. Also on August the 8th, the Squad provided first aid presence at the Beta Aquatics

[25:00] Club. They had a tournament. On August the 8th and 9th, the Squad provided first aid presence

[25:06] for the Sean Bradwell softball tournament covering four ballparks on that Saturday of the weekend.

[25:15] This tournament has been held each year since 1989 and takes place in Kirkland and raises money for

[25:22] the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation. On August 8th as well the squad participated in the

[25:34] It's a big event in Pencor and the rescue squad has been invited there for many years,

[25:40] as long as I can remember, so that will be over 20 years.

[25:43] On August the 14th to 16th, the squad provided for a state presence at the annual Montreal

[25:49] Ribfest in Pierre-Fal.

[25:51] On August the 22nd, the rescue squad provided a first state presence at the St. Ann de Bellevue

[25:58] Garlic Festival.

[25:58] This event is now in its 18th year and brought together over 5,000 people this year coming

[26:05] and going to St. Anne Village and the new Boardwalk.

[26:09] And on August the 27th, the Rescue Squad held their Executive Committee meeting.

[26:16] Now for the citizens on patrol, they will be providing a combined report for us to

[26:20] deliver at our next Council meeting in October.

[26:24] And that concludes my report.

[26:28] So, for anybody who was listening, so on October 24th, if you see a whole bunch of people running

[26:33] around town and it looks like there's an emergency, there really is no emergency.

[26:36] It's just going to be a simulation.

[26:41] Councillor Lohenstein.

[26:43] Thank you.

[26:45] So I have a few items on recreation to report on.

[26:49] First of all, on behalf of council, I would like to congratulate the Bader Faye Aquatic

[26:55] Club on an excellent competitive season. The swim team, the diving team, the artistic swimming

[27:01] synchro team, and the water polo team all did exceptionally well. Details are in this

[27:07] month's news and views, if you haven't already seen them. But I would like to especially

[27:10] mention that the swim team not only went undefeated all season, but also won Section

[27:17] B finals at home and has moved back up to Division A level. So very well done for a swim team.

[27:24] Now with summer sports behind us, we can look forward to winter sports and the Bay Durfee

[27:29] curling club has its open house on October 4th. If you haven't tried curling before,

[27:38] this is a great opportunity to check it out. The Junior Council is coming back from its

[27:44] summer vacation and on Thursday September 17th from 5.30 to 7 p.m. at Town Hall we will have our

[27:53] meeting and if you're between the ages of 10 and 17 you're welcome to attend to see what

[27:59] junior council is all about. This is a great time to get started with the junior council if

[28:05] you haven't been before because it's the start of the not the start of the year but start of the

[28:09] school year which is very important for that age group. So please email me if you

[28:15] would like to attend. Finally the youth games night is also back from summer

[28:20] break and if we're changing things up a little bit this year games night will

[28:26] have different a different theme and activity each month. September 25th will

[28:32] be indoor board games and pick up basketball outdoors. October games night

[28:37] will be a game of capture the ghost outside, sort of like capture the flag, but capture

[28:42] the ghost.

[28:44] So keep your eye on the news and views for further details.

[28:47] Games Night, as always, is open to beta or for youth between the ages of 10 and 17,

[28:52] and you can bring a friend or two to enjoy the fun.

[28:56] Thank you.

[28:57] Sorry, that would be a friend or two from out of town.

[29:02] Thank you, Councillor Lonson.

[29:03] what's really lovely is how much involvement the Junior Council have. Games Night has evolved.

[29:10] It was originally a suggestion by Junior Council, and it was really a board game.

[29:16] And over time as children, youth, I shouldn't say children, age out and new youth come in.

[29:22] Sometimes the differences,

[29:26] you see differences, we all know for those who have children,

[29:29] every every child is different and this group tended to want to do things that

[29:34] were more physically active so again it was all it wasn't adults deciding for

[29:40] youth what they're going to do this was all done in great collaboration so

[29:44] thank you for that. My pleasure. So that's the end of the report. So let's continue. I'm going to pass the microphone to

[29:52] conseillère Caron pour l'approbation du process verbal.

[30:00] Je propose d'approuver la Processe Verbale de la Science Ordinaire du conseil municipal tenu le 11 août 2020-06.

[30:07] Merci pour appuyer. Thank you. Councillor Shelton, all in favor. Thank you.

[30:15] Maintenant, on continue avec l'administration et je passe le micro et conseillère pagée.

[30:24] Merci madame M.R.S.

[30:27] Whereas in consideration of a project construct new picket ball courts, the town authorized by resolution number 202605109 a preliminary acoustic study considering the desire for transparency.

[30:47] therefore une table de l'acoustique étudiant des courts de piquots degré,

[30:53] produisible par le quartier à l'avenir, à la suite de l'Aqeureux 2026 en Argyz.

[30:59] Merci le conseiller Pagez.

[31:01] Alors j'ai δ'autant le microphone et puis, je passerai au Mr Bouchard qui

[31:05] a suivi l'étudiant de l'acoustique, tomate matin, le rapport sera

[31:11] disponible en ligne pour tous les résidences,

[31:14] Our town clerk did print out a few copies. It is in French, as is the law in Quebec to work in French with that external services. So there are several copies. There's not one per person, but we can certainly invite you to take a copy if you so choose to have a hard copy this evening.

[31:35] Je vais passer le microphone à Mr. Bouchard pour une somme très courte. C'est une longue réplique.

[31:42] Il va en avoir le temps de déguster l'information, mais il va donner une somme et je vais prendre le microphone

[31:48] pour une somme courte après.

[31:55] Merci. Je vais essayer de summariser cela comme rapidement possible.

[32:02] Quand le mandat était donné à l'atelier Cetajed, il y avait un maximum dba limiter qui était demandé à les lignes propres pour être mettes.

[32:17] Donc, ce qu'on a demandé, c'est de measure, faire leur étude, et le but c'est de réduire

[32:25] l'élevé à 50 decibels à la ligne propres.

[32:31] C'était ce que l'on demandait de la compagnie.

[32:34] En orderant à faire leur analyse, ils ont mis en place une mesure d'acoustique,

[32:44] une measurement dans une autre ville qui je ne vais pas mentionner pour les raisons de confidentialité pour cette ville

[32:51] parce que je n'ai pas obtenu l'autorisation d'incliner leur nom dans cette ville.

[32:56] Mais une measurement a été faite dans une ville où il y avait six courts de balles de pique

[33:02] sur le 3 juin et puis d'autres mesures étaient faites ici dans Bay d'Orphée.

[33:12] Ils étaient à la site de measure le niveau de l'existence sur la période de 72 heures,

[33:22] incluant un weekend.

[33:24] Ils ont fait des mesures où le pico-balle est currently played in beta-rpha.

[33:36] et ce que les résultats ont fait, et puis ils ont simulé six différentes options avec,

[33:47] en fait, huit, avec un nombre différent du quartier.

[33:50] Alors, on va dire que nous étions à construire un quartier, deux quartiers, trois quartiers,

[33:55] quatre quartiers, et puis le même chose, mais avec des mesures de protection du son sur la

[34:02] donc ce sont tous faits dans le étudiant, ce que l'étudiant montre c'est que dans l'endemain

[34:14] les mesures entre un quart ou un quatre quart ne changent très beaucoup

[34:21] sans aucune protection acoustique, donc si vous construisiez un quart

[34:26] vous devez avoir de la protection de 55 decibels pour 1, et si vous construisiez 4, vous devez avoir de la protection de 59 decibels.

[34:38] Sur ces mêmes courts, si vous ajoutez la protection de la fenêtre pour réduire le son à la limite de la propriété,

[34:47] vous devez réduire si vous avez seulement une corde à 43 decibels,

[34:53] up to 49 dB if you have 4 quarts. So technically you could potentially reduce the sound and this is the

[35:04] LAQ 12 hours and I'm going to talk to you what this measurement is just to understand. So technically

[35:12] if you put protection on the fences you're able to meet the 50 dB requirement but there's a big

[35:23] si, parce que cela s'agit d'un son average sur une base de 12 heures, et ce que l'étudie

[35:32] aussi montre, c'est que cela n'a rien à faire avec l'impact de la brosse quand la

[35:38] balle s'attaque sur le raccord.

[35:43] La fréquence est appelée la laf max, qui est l'impact de l'impact du jeu, et c'est beaucoup plus

[35:54] plus haut. Ce n'est pas le nombre du quartier, parce qu'il y a quelqu'un qui a un balle de 1,6 ou 1,7 mètres

[36:06] et ce n'est pas sans protection, c'est 63 decibels et avec une protection sur la fenêtre on

[36:20] est capable de réduire ça à 52, donc on n'est pas capable de réduire l'impact de la

[36:32] de 250 dB à la ligne de propriété.

[36:36] La conclusion des ingénieurs dans le reportage est que

[36:45] l'implimation des balles piquées, où elles sont situées,

[36:50] n'est pas la nécessité principalement

[36:54] parce que la proximité des résidences

[36:56] et même si nous avons mis la protection du son de protection sur la fenêtre,

[37:03] nous sommes incapables de limiter la noise du impact sur cette particularité.

[37:08] C'est ce que le rapport s'est dit.

[37:11] Quoi que 2 décembre ?

[37:12] Quoi que 2 décembre est perceptible, oui.

[37:19] Il dit beaucoup plus dans le rapport parce que ça parle d'éloigner les heures,

[37:25] et poursuivre les joueurs à jouer avec différents raccets,

[37:30] tous sortes de choses qui sont très difficiles à contrôler

[37:35] dans une longue période,

[37:37] parce que les gens vont jouer avec tout ce qu'ils veulent jouer,

[37:41] même si vous essayez de les faire jouer avec d'autres types de raccets.

[37:45] Donc, c'est la conclusion du reportage.

[37:48] Merci beaucoup, Mr. Bouchard.

[37:50] Alors, en complément à ce que Mr. Bouchard a shared,

[37:52] Les gens, les humains, ils sont tous humains, ils tentent de lire les parts que ils sont les plus

[38:00] élevés dans les rapports.

[38:01] Donc, quelqu'un qui est un joueur de pique-au-balle peut lire ce rapport et peut s'en prendre.

[38:07] Ils ont été très proches.

[38:10] Et quelqu'un qui peut-être était très concerné avec ça, peut dire, peut dire,

[38:17] pas peut dire, mais peut dire, je savais que le conseil n'aurait jamais été

[38:21] gone forward with this. The point of the exercise is to have data and to have an understanding of the impact of this.

[38:30] So I'll let the people here and people at home get a chance to get online and read the report.

[38:40] But at this time, after council has seen the report, the decision was unanimous not to go forward with pickleball courts at that location.

[38:50] Furthermore, while each location is specific, so this report can't be used necessarily verbatim at another place because of the surroundings, what is clear are the locations that were considered as possibilities are very similar to the distance from people's homes as this location.

[39:17] Donc, où est-ce qu'il nous reste avec la balle de pique ?

[39:21] La porte est ferme et le conseil est très ouvert pour voir si il y a des sortes de compromises

[39:26] qui peuvent être trouvées à l'existence.

[39:29] Les gens ont été joués, on n'a jamais eu des complétences sur la balle de pique.

[39:34] On réalise que ce n'est pas idéal et on veut toujours trouver des solutions pour les compromises.

[39:42] Donc, si il y a des gens dans le groupe qui sont actifs et des joueurs qui ont des suggestions,

[39:49] le Council reste ouvert à recevoir et à trouver si il y a des manières dans les locations

[39:55] où nous pouvons faire cela plus facilement pour des fois récréationaux.

[40:06] Je vais retourner le micro à conseillers pagés pour l'approbation de la liste des dépenses

[40:12] pour le mois d'août 2026. Merci madame la mairesse. Je propose d'approver la liste des

[40:19] dépenses pour le mois d'août 2026 au montant de 152 451 $ et 28 sous avec les détails suivants.

[40:29] pour les chèques qui ont été mis 245.188 sous, les chèques annulés 10.015 $ et 37

[40:43] sous, les dépôts assis haut de 291.186 et 95, et des billes directes 26.089 et 52 pour un

[40:54] totale de 552 451 $ et 28 sous.

[41:00] Thank you, Councillor Thomson. All in favor. To prove. Thank you. On continue les deux prochaines.

[41:07] The next two will be under public security and circulation and will be motioned by Councillor

[41:14] Brown. The first being la recommandation du comité de circulation et des securités

[41:20] Utterre, un de nos commissaires, les commissaires qui incluisent l'officier de la trafication,

[41:28] le Président Brown, le Président Thomson, et aussi plusieurs citoyens. Je vais vous passer

[41:33] sur le micro-phone. Thank you. Whereas the Baderfee Traffic and Road Safety Advisory Committee

[41:40] was established, Resolution number 2018-04-95. And whereas committees serve as management tools

[41:49] pour la considération de la société publique et l'expertise de la société civale

[41:55] en analysant les situations problématiques.

[41:59] Et, d'ailleurs, la Committee de l'Adresse des Trois Trafices et de la Saisement et du Safé de l'Adresse

[42:03] a été installée par le Council municipal

[42:06] à sa rencontre sur 14 juillet 2026,

[42:10] et à sa rencontre sur 21 avril 2026,

[42:14] la Committee de l'Adresse des Trois Trafices et de la Saisement et du Safé de la Saisement

[42:20] Le Comité recommande que, pour élever la congestion et l'impassabilité du parquet sur les deux côtés de Dorset Road, les signes seraient installés à l'extérieur de Dorset,

[42:34] indiquant qu'il n'y a pas de stoppage à l'époque et de l'année prochaine.

[42:39] 2. Le comité recommande à le conseil de painter 30 km par heure les limites de vitesse directement sur les roues,

[42:48] sur Morgan et Lake Shore, dans les deux directions, indiquant les zones de vitesse de vitesse

[42:54] et clairement indiquant les exceptions pour les limites de vitesse de vitesse de 40 km par heure.

[43:00] speed limit across town.

[43:02] 3.

[43:04] The committee recommends that since our speed monitor was installed, but did not function,

[43:10] it was agreed to re erect a monitor on Magnolia Road to collect traffic speed data and also

[43:18] at the intersection of Clark Graham and Morgan Road North in the industrial park.

[43:25] Therefore, I move to approve the recommendations of the Traffic and Road Safety Advisory Committee.

[43:33] Thank you. Counselor de second, second. Thank you. Just in compliment before I ask for the vote.

[43:39] On Dorset Street, well, several of these, they're all based on citizens coming forward with a concern that they have brought to council.

[43:48] Specifically, I wanted to speak to Dorset because it was brought to us by a resident who lives on Dorset and we love the fact that we have all this green space to let youth and Lakeshore soccer use our fields.

[44:01] However, it got to a point and we saw lots of photos over the entire summer of parents. Let's face it, we all have been there.

[44:10] Not necessarily making the best parking choices because it's not the kids who are doing it.

[44:14] Et c'est un problème, on parle d'un parc de biais, on a des gens qui parkent sur les deux côtés de la route et Dieu forbid qu'il y ait une émergence où un véhicule de l'émergence n'était pas très confortable de voir.

[44:28] Donc, on espère que ce sera le problème et merci à la Commissaire Trafic, nous avons un officier du SPVM qui est spécialisé en trafic et la circulation de la route.

[44:39] Merci pour organiser ça et pour la Commissaire.

[44:42] All in favor? Thank you, approved. Next, Councillor Brown will continue with Road Safety Week 2026.

[44:53] Thank you. Whereas Rail Safety Week is to be held across Canada from September 21 to 20.

[45:00] 27th, 2026. Whereas 252 railway crossing and trespassing incidents occurred in Canada in 2023,

[45:10] resulting in 69 fatalities and 60 avoidable serious injuries. Whereas educating and informing

[45:18] the public about rail safety, such as reminding the public that railway rights of way are private

[45:24] property, enhancing public awareness of the dangers associated with highway

[45:30] rail-grade crossings, ensuring pedestrians and motorists are looking and

[45:34] listening while near railways, and obeying established traffic laws, will

[45:40] reduce the number of avoidable fatalities and injuries caused by

[45:44] incidents involving trains and citizens. And whereas Operation Lifesaver, excuse

[45:50] is a public-private partnership whose aim is to work with the public,

[45:56] real industry, governments, police services, media, and others to raise real

[46:01] safety awareness and whereas CN and Operation Lifesaver have requested City

[46:07] Council adopt this resolution in support of its ongoing efforts to raise

[46:12] awareness, save lives, and prevent injuries in communities including our

[46:18] municipality. I move to support the efforts of CN and Operation Lifesaver by proclaiming

[46:25] the week of September 21st to 27th, 2026 Railway Safety Week and by promoting railway safety

[46:33] on our social media networks.

[46:38] Thank you, a seconder. I'll second that. Thank you. So, I want to say

[46:41] thank you to Justin Mark, a communications person who has been working on this. So,

[46:46] So thank you for his support and I also want to say in compliment to this because it's

[46:52] more than just a resolution and I know a month or two ago I had asked council to give support

[46:59] to Montreal West which is not in our territory but has a school that is very a magnet school

[47:06] of Royal West Academy and I have to say today when I was going through Facebook, so

[47:11] everybody was pushing, the parent committee was pushing, we were supporting our residents

[47:16] who were reaching out to us. And the mayor of Pierre-Fawn Rocksboro, Jim Base, who works on the

[47:23] security, he felt a lot of good pressure, but that's the way things get happened at the

[47:31] agglomeration level. Even the children who had been hit by vehicles showed up at the meeting

[47:35] and were voices. It wasn't just a, you know, a handwritten question. All that to say,

[47:41] I was really happy today to see on the new Mayor's Facebook page that for the time being

[47:48] as the school season evolves they have agreed to either have a brigadier, a crossing guard

[47:56] or a policeman on site and they will reevaluate it as the intersection becomes safer.

[48:02] So I'm saying all that.

[48:04] I know it's adding a couple minutes to our meeting, Councillor Thompson, that I just

[48:07] want to say thank you to – we joke around.

[48:10] No, I know. I know. But I want to thank Council because sometimes we say, why are we doing this?

[48:17] And it really does make a difference. So thank you all for supporting that resolution.

[48:23] So that's it. All in favor?

[48:25] Yep.

[48:26] It's approved. Thank you.

[48:28] Now, we will continue public work in infrastructure, infrastructure of the city, and it will be

[48:35] Chancellor Caron with an additional spending authorization, contingency fees for the

[48:42] drainage work of an oxford street sector.

[48:46] Thank you.

[48:47] There you go.

[48:48] Whereas the council awarded the contract to Les Pavages d'Amour, Inc. in the amount

[48:53] of 136,981 and 22 cents tax included for the drainage work on a section of Oxford Street,

[49:01] whereas contingency costs should be provided for unseen events. I moved to authorize the

[49:07] payment of additional expenses for up to 20,000 tax included to cover contingency costs.

[49:13] To charge the aforementioned expenditure, to transfer the maximum amount of 18,262 and

[49:19] 67 cents from budgetary item 59-140-01-52 bylaw 1052 drainage to budgetary item 22-416-00-721

[49:36] in accordance with the certificate of availability of funds number 260902 issued by the treasurer.

[49:42] To authorize the Director General, Director of Public Works and the Project Manager to

[49:47] approve additional expenses subject to the maximum amount provided in the delegation regulations

[49:53] and to sign for and on behalf of the city any documents related to the project.

[50:00] Thank you. A seconder, please. Thank you, Councillor Brown. All in favour? Approved.

[50:08] Now we're moving into the section under town planning and there's quite a few this evening.

[50:12] I'm going to pass the microphone to Councilor Thomson for the depot, and after that, he will continue with the request of the plan, the IAEA for the Lo 1500 58300, which is located in the industrial park.

[50:36] Whereas, thank you. Whereas the minutes of the regular meeting of the Planning Advisory Committee

[50:42] held on August 14th, 2026 have been duly prepared, whereas the main role of the Planning Advisory

[50:48] Committee is to review and provide opinions on any application that must be submitted to it

[50:54] under the Act Respecting Land Use, Planning and Development, as well as on any other planning

[51:02] planning or land use application referred to it by Town Council. Therefore, I table

[51:08] the minutes of the Planning Advisory Committee meeting of August 14th, 2026, which are attached

[51:14] here to as an appendix.

[51:17] Thank you.

[51:19] Okay. And now, whereas the minutes of the regular meeting of the Planning Advisory

[51:24] Committee held on August 14, 2026 indicate that the committee issued a favorable recommendation

[51:33] whereas the application was submitted by the applicant pursuant to By-law number 1113

[51:40] of the town of Baderfee.

[51:46] Instead application meets the objectives and criteria of By-law number

[51:50] 1113 whereas the project consists of the construction of a new industrial building

[51:56] on a vacant lot including the landscaping of the site.

[52:02] Therefore I move that the above preamble forms an integral part of this resolution

[52:08] that the municipal council approve the state application submitted pursuant to bylaw number

[52:15] 1113 for the construction of a new industrial building, including the landscaping of the site

[52:21] in accordance with one, excuse me, the site plan prepared by Metrica Arpantheur Geometh,

[52:30] dated March 7, 2022. The architectural plans prepared by Geiger Huell, signed by architect

[52:38] Eric Hu, and dated July 16, 2026, sheets 1 to 12.

[52:44] Three, the drainage plans prepared by CLA XperiConse Inc.

[52:50] Dated April 20, 2022, sheets 1 and 2, signed by engineers

[52:55] Michelle Michaud and Jonathan Daisy.

[53:00] All of the above subject to the following conditions.

[53:03] One, that a financial guarantee equivalent to $250,000 be provided to ensure that the

[53:11] work complies with the approved plans and the objectives and criteria of By-law No.

[53:17] 1113.

[53:19] Two, that tree protection measures compliant with applicable BNQ standards be implemented

[53:26] prior to the start of the work.

[53:28] 3. That additional measures to protect the root systems of the trees to be preserved be implemented

[53:36] including the application of protective mulch in sensitive areas, the delineation of machine

[53:42] recirculation areas, as well as the preparation and implementation of a sustainable site management

[53:49] plan aimed at limiting soil compaction and any drainage to routes, four, that a

[53:58] construction site management plan incorporating measures to protect to

[54:02] protect the trees to be preserved be provided prior to the issuance of the

[54:07] permit, five, and five that all required documents and measures to be

[54:14] submitted to the satisfaction of the town prior to the issuance of the

[54:18] permit. Thank you. A seconder, please. Thank you, Counselor Paget. All in favor? It's approved.

[54:28] We will continue with that. Councillor Thompson, with the SPAPE or the site plan and architectural

[54:36] integration for 56 Lakeview. Whereas the minutes of the regular meeting of the planning advisory

[54:43] Committee held on August 14, 2026 indicate that the committee issued a favorable recommendation,

[54:50] whereas the application was submitted by the applicant pursuance to bylaw number 1113 of

[54:57] the town of Baderfee and said application meets the objectives and criteria of this bylaw,

[55:05] whereas the project consists of an addition to a detached single-family dwelling, including

[55:11] the replacement of the existing aluminum siding with wood cladding as well as the replacement of

[55:17] the entire roof covered with asphalt shingles. Therefore, I move that the above preamble forms

[55:24] an integral part of this resolution, that the municipal council approve the SPAPE application

[55:30] submitted pursuant to bylaw number 1113 concerning the addition to attach single family dwelling

[55:39] in accordance with 1. The site planning, the site plan prepared by Lévié Gaskin,

[55:47] Arpenter Geomet, Inc. dated April 29, 2026. The architecture plans prepared by Michael

[55:56] Orsini Design, drawn by technologist Michel Orsini and dated June 5, 2026. Sheets 1 to 9.

[56:05] 3. The structural plans prepared by engineer Richard Edwards and dated June 5th, 2026.

[56:13] Sheets 1 and 2. All of the above subject to the following conditions. That a financial

[56:22] guarantee equivalent to $17,000 be provided to ensure that the work complies with the

[56:28] approved plans and that the – and the objectives and criteria of Bylaw 1113, 2, that the tree

[56:38] – that tree protection measures compliant with applicable BNQ standards be implemented

[56:44] prior to start of the work, 3, that the additional measures to protect the root systems of trees

[56:51] to be preserved be implemented, including the application of protective mulch in sensitive

[56:57] of areas in the delineation of machinery circulation areas should the protective fencing need to

[57:03] be temporarily removed.

[57:07] Thank you, Councillor Thompson.

[57:09] Councillor De Second?

[57:11] Thank you, Councillor Page.

[57:13] Do you have a favour?

[57:15] Thank you.

[57:17] We'll pass the microphone to Councillor Lohanstein, who will give Councillor Thompson a little

[57:21] break this evening.

[57:23] I'm going to stream some water.

[57:24] These ones are long.

[57:26] We'll continue.

[57:27] it's another SPAPE application for 79 summer sets.

[57:34] Councillor Thompson, if you could just...

[57:35] Oh, sorry.

[57:36] That's okay.

[57:38] There.

[57:39] Whereas the minutes of the regular meeting of the Planning Advisory Committee held on

[57:44] August 14, 2026 indicated that the committee issued a favorable recommendation.

[57:50] Whereas the application was submitted by the applicant pursuant to bylaw number 1113 of

[57:56] the town planning of the town of Baderfe concerning the site planning and architectural integration

[58:01] programs SPAPE and said application meets the objectives and criteria of this bylaw,

[58:07] whereas the project involves the construction of a detached single family dwelling,

[58:12] including the landscaping of the property in accordance with the site redevelopment plan.

[58:18] I move that the above preamble forms an integral part of this resolution,

[58:22] That the municipal council approved the state application submitted pursuant to bylaw 1113

[58:29] concerning and concerns the construction of a detached single family dwelling as well as the site development of the property in accordance with 1.

[58:41] The architectural plans dated August 6, 2026. Sheets 1 to 26, prepared by the firm Ugo Conception.

[58:49] 2. The Site Plan Landscaping and Drainage Plans dated June 12, 2026, sheets 1-6, prepared

[58:59] by the firm CIVI Solutions and signed by engineer Sherif Azab, but all the above are

[59:09] subject to the following conditions. 1. That a financial guarantee equivalent to $40,500

[59:16] dollars for the construction work be provided to ensure that the work complies with the above

[59:21] plans and the objectives and criteria of bylaw number 1113, that a financial guarantee equivalent

[59:30] to 25,000 dollars for the landscaping work be provided in order to ensure the completion

[59:36] and compliance of the landscaping work with the approved plans and the objectives and criteria

[59:42] of bylaw number 1113. Three, that tree protection measures compliant with the

[59:48] applicable BNQ standards be implemented prior to the start of the work,

[59:52] including the installation of rigid protective fencing, clearly delineating

[59:56] the root protection zones of the trees to be preserved, which

[1:00:00] Which shall be maintained for the entire duration of the work and within which all intervention

[1:00:04] shall be limited and that all tree planting be carried out in planting pits compliant with

[1:00:10] the applicable BNQ standards.

[1:00:14] For that additional measures to protect the root systems of the trees be preserved, be

[1:00:20] implemented, sorry, that the additional measures to protect the root system of the trees to

[1:00:27] be preserved, be implemented, including the application of protective mulch and sensitive

[1:00:31] areas, the delineation of machinery circulation areas, as well as the preparation and implementation

[1:00:39] of the of a sustainable site management plan aimed at limiting soil compaction and any

[1:00:44] damage to the routes, five, that all required documents and measures be submitted to the

[1:00:51] satisfaction of the town prior to issuance of the permit, six, the approval of the

[1:00:56] state be conditional upon prior authorization for the reuse of the land by the demolition

[1:01:03] committee in accordance with the demolition bylaw enforce.

[1:01:06] Thank you.

[1:01:07] A seconder?

[1:01:09] Thank you, Councillor Brown.

[1:01:10] All in favour?

[1:01:11] It's unanimous.

[1:01:19] The next one is the request for implementation and architectural integration for 1007 Victoria.

[1:01:29] Councilor Loewenstein. Whereas the minutes of the regular meaning of the

[1:01:34] Planning Advisory Committee held on August 14th, 2026 indicate that the

[1:01:39] committee issues a favorable recommendation. Whereas the application

[1:01:43] was submitted by the applicant pursuant to bylaw number 1113 of the town of

[1:01:48] Baderfee concerning site planning and architectural integration

[1:01:51] programs SPAPE and said application meets the objectives and criteria of

[1:01:56] this bylaw, whereas the project involves the expansion of a detached single family dwelling

[1:02:02] at the rear yard, the replacement and the enlargement of certain openings and the replacement of

[1:02:08] the roof shingles.

[1:02:10] I move that the above preamble forms an integral part of this resolution, that the municipal

[1:02:15] council approve the SPAPE application submitted pursuant to bylaw number 1113 concerning

[1:02:21] concerning the building extension of a detached single family dwelling in

[1:02:28] accordance with one. The site plan prepared by Horizon Arpenteur Geomètre Inc. and dated May

[1:02:36] 12, 2026. The architectural plans prepared by the firm Archikan and dated June 29,

[1:02:44] 2026, Sheets 1 to 13. The structural plans prepared by the firm Group SJL and dated

[1:02:53] March 27, 2026, Sheets 1 to 10, signed by engineer Joelle Saint-Cartier. All of the above subject

[1:03:03] to the following conditions, one that a financial guarantee equivalent to $13,000 be provided

[1:03:09] to ensure that the work complies with the approved plans and the objectives and criteria of bylaw number 1113.

[1:03:19] Two, that tree protection measures compliant with the applicable BNQ standard to be implemented, as was stated in the previous resolution.

[1:03:30] Resolution 3, that additional measures to protect the root system of the trees be preserved

[1:03:35] and implemented, as mentioned in the previous resolution.

[1:03:44] That's it.

[1:03:45] Okay.

[1:03:46] A seconder, please.

[1:03:48] Thank you, Councillor Brown.

[1:03:50] All in favour?

[1:03:52] It's unanimous.

[1:03:55] So, we continue Councillor Lohenstein with the next one.

[1:03:59] Yep.

[1:04:00] That's paid for 72 Morgan.

[1:04:05] We're at the minutes of the regular meeting of the Planning Advisory Committee held on

[1:04:10] August 14, 2026, indicate that the committee issues favorable recommendation, whereas the

[1:04:17] application was submitted by the applicant pursuant to bylaw number 1113 of the town

[1:04:21] of Badurfe concerning site planning and architectural integration programs, SPAPE, and said application

[1:04:27] meets the objectives and criteria of this bylaw, whereas the project involves the

[1:04:32] expansion of a detached single-family dwelling including the removal of the chimney, the addition

[1:04:39] of a balcony, as well as the addition and enlargement of certain openings, and that the project also

[1:04:45] involves the replacement of the roofing material with metal roofing, as well as the addition of

[1:04:51] wood siding on part of the addition matching the existing siding. I move that the above

[1:04:58] preamble forms an integral part of this resolution. That the municipal council approve the SPAPE

[1:05:05] application submitted pursuant to bylaw number 1113 concerning the building extension of a

[1:05:10] detached single-family dwelling in accordance with 1. The architectural plans prepared by

[1:05:16] architect Colin Fraser and dated June 27, 2026, sheets 1-9. The structural plans prepared by

[1:05:24] engineer Jonathan A. Davis and dated June 10, 2026. Sheets 1-4. All of the above are

[1:05:33] subject to the following conditions. That a financial guarantee equivalent to $10,000

[1:05:40] be provided to ensure that the work complies with the approved plans and the objectives

[1:05:45] of criteria and criteria bylaw number 1113. Two, that tree protection measure is compliant

[1:05:52] with the applicable BNQ standard to be implemented as stated in the previous resolution.

[1:05:58] Three, that additional measures to protect the root systems of the trees to be preserved be implemented also as stated in the previous resolution.

[1:06:06] Thank you. A seconder.

[1:06:09] Thank you, Councillor Brown. All in favour?

[1:06:12] Thank you. So just before we continue, that's a lot of talking, right?

[1:06:17] and it's not very exciting, we don't show you pictures or anything like that, but just

[1:06:22] to recap, because since we've changed our bylaws with the bylaw reform.

[1:06:27] So tonight there were five urban planning files.

[1:06:30] One is a brand new building in the industrial park on an empty lot.

[1:06:34] Three were renovations and one is a demolition which will, the date hasn't been finalized

[1:06:41] yet for the demolition, but then the demolition committee will be looking at that file.

[1:06:45] So in the past before the bylaw reform, we would only be seeing demolitions and now

[1:06:52] Actually, it's kind of nice to see also. I think for counsel

[1:06:57] How many people are actually renovating homes not to say anything's wrong with the demolition?

[1:07:02] But we we only were seeing that and we would only talk about that in these public meetings because the others were just

[1:07:10] Handled by administration and you would just see them when you would walk by

[1:07:13] So, I find that very interesting.

[1:07:19] So we continue now with a legal proceeding for non-compliance with municipal regulations,

[1:07:26] a professional mandate to law firm regarding 211 Oak Ridge.

[1:07:29] Councillor Charton?

[1:07:31] Considering that there is a place to mandate a Cabinet of Advocates to entamize all the

[1:07:35] judicial procedures used in the name of the city of Bedurfe, in virtue of Article 227

[1:07:41] de la loi sur l'aménagement et l'urbanisme, afin de faire respecter la réglementation

[1:07:46] municipale applicable relativement à la propriété 6 au 211 Oak Ridge.

[1:07:53] Je propose de mandater Maître Alain Long-Vivale de Danton, Drainville, à fin de prendre

[1:07:59] les procédures judiciaires jugées nécessaires au nom de la ville de Bédurffy en vertu

[1:08:03] de l'article 227 de la loi de la cité de la loi de l'aménagement et de l'urbanisme,

[1:08:08] to respect the municipal regulation applicable relative to the O211 Oak Ridge property,

[1:08:15] to transfer a amount of $10 per hour to the same non-affected post-budgetary,

[1:08:21] the 02-120-00-412,

[1:08:24] to authorize the Treasury to proceed to the payment of the honours

[1:08:27] that will be paid to the frame of its mandate,

[1:08:29] and to implement the sums,

[1:08:30] le tout conformément au certificat de disponibilité des fonds n°26-09-03,

[1:08:36] délivré par la trésorière.

[1:08:39] Merci pour appuyer, s'il vous plaît.

[1:08:42] Councillor Caron, thank you all in favor.

[1:08:45] It's unanimous.

[1:08:51] And Councillor Chartin, I will turn the microphone back to you

[1:08:55] for the excellent support program,

[1:08:57] le Programme de soutien à l'excellence.

[1:08:59] Excellent.

[1:09:00] Considering that the next candidate submitted a request to be financed by the Programme de

[1:09:11] soutien d'excellence, Julien Poupa-Rossou-Bourg, Tournois-Déjardin de Victoriaville, compétitif

[1:09:18] lecture white soccer du 20 au 21 juin à Victoriaville, au montant de 300 dedans,

[1:09:24] considering that the city considers it important to support its young residents in its sporting

[1:09:29] activities. I propose to grant a financial support to the total amount of $300 in the

[1:09:33] program of support for excellence, and to include the total amount of support mentioned

[1:09:38] in accordance with the background availability certificate No. 26-09-01, delivered by the

[1:09:44] Treasury.

[1:09:45] Thank you.

[1:09:45] A seconder, please.

[1:09:47] Thank you, Councillor Carroll. All in favor?

[1:09:49] Thank you.

[1:09:50] So now that brings us to almost the end of our council meeting, so the microphone goes back to you for anybody who has questions about anything that we discussed on the agenda this evening.

[1:10:12] Good evening, Meryl Hammond, six sunny acres,

[1:10:18] profoundly disappointed about the results

[1:10:24] of the pickleball sound study, and have a few questions for next steps.

[1:10:34] But to say I'm bringing good pressure, I think was your phrase, Madame Maria, just

[1:10:41] Good pressure from a concerned citizen.

[1:10:46] Thank you for laughing, Don.

[1:10:49] So my first question is who sets the 50, I believe, decibel limit?

[1:10:58] Is that a local bylaw? Is it a provincial? Where did that number come from?

[1:11:05] Okay, that's one. I'm going to just, if you don't mind, can I ask, do you know what your other questions are?

[1:11:11] Certainly.

[1:11:11] Okay, so maybe you could just go over your questions and then we'll...

[1:11:15] So who sets that limit? Because I have been playing recently in St. Anne's and they have four courts

[1:11:22] and a tennis court and then I don't know the distance, I haven't measured it, but it's like a

[1:11:28] footpath between the high school and John Abbott College and behind the church and...

[1:11:35] Well, St. Anne.

[1:11:36] A huge block of, not a huge, but a big block of apartments.

[1:11:41] literally from here to there. And we are playing on four courts and they are there. We played

[1:11:47] on the Monday morning, the holiday, at 8 a.m. and I was saying, come on, there's people

[1:11:54] trying to sleep here. It was legal. The park opens at 7.30. We looked on the web. So, again,

[1:12:02] Where does the 50 decibels come from? If that's really what we are creating,

[1:12:09] those poor guys need a sound barrier. Number two, yeah, if that's the limit,

[1:12:18] then there would be no pickleball courts anywhere on this planet. And yet it's

[1:12:23] the fastest growing sport certainly in North America we've heard. Then you

[1:12:29] mentioned sound reduction, some sort of, some mitigation. Do we know what that

[1:12:36] would look like? Is it ugly? Do we want to see like a wall of, did they say in

[1:12:43] their report? That's number three. And then next steps. Now that we are where we

[1:12:49] are, we've got the study result, what are our next steps? Could we look at other

[1:12:55] venues, e.g. at Bertolt Park, e.g. at Piccadilly, adjacent to the current basketball. We've been

[1:13:04] through this exercise before, but there must be somewhere. Or if not, do we have to go

[1:13:11] to St Ann's or Beaconsfield? They have courts, I believe, at Christmas Park. I haven't

[1:13:16] played there yet. And our town enters some kind of agreement with that town, who's

[1:13:24] spent their money for us to play legally we always go with somebody from that

[1:13:30] town right now but I would like to be able to play in this game. So I wrote down

[1:13:37] your questions other towns a couple of them I will defer to Mr. Bouchard but

[1:13:44] I'll try I'll give a quick take and then I'll pass the microphone I can't

[1:13:50] speak for other towns and what they did or did not do before they installed pickleball

[1:13:56] courts. Our engineer had done his own research and those were the proposals that he put forward.

[1:14:04] Every community is different.

[1:14:08] And we did go ahead and do a report. So I don't know

[1:14:14] if St. Anne's did or not.

[1:14:19] So, after I will pass the microphone regarding the 50 decibel,

[1:14:23] but essentially, and it was in council who decided that, but essentially at a certain

[1:14:28] point, you could expect that there would be, and it'll be in the, it'll be written

[1:14:37] when you get a chance to read the report, that it could trigger complaints. Would it?

[1:14:43] it, it doesn't decisively say it would, could it, and based on what we've seen in the process,

[1:14:52] us, it's highly likely that it could.

[1:15:00] That's the limit, then there'd be no pickle, but I can't answer that one. It's really, our

[1:15:05] bylaws do encompass

[1:15:12] a certain level of peace in the neighborhood, and I don't know

[1:15:18] what other towns, how they, you know, I've looked at other towns, we've looked at

[1:15:23] other towns, it's not all about me, we've all read. Ottawa, for example, has a

[1:15:28] policy and it's a very large town Ottawa and they don't want to spend an enormous amount

[1:15:34] on their pickleball courts so they automatically say if there's going to be a pickleball court

[1:15:38] it has to be x amount of distance from any home. We don't have that kind of space here

[1:15:43] in the residential area but I think again I think that's more because the cost which

[1:15:49] brings me to the part of your question is about what mitigation is possible and the

[1:15:54] report talks about what mitigation could look like, and Mr. Bouchard rambled off what those

[1:16:00] numbers would bring the decibel levels down to, and you noted it because I heard you talk

[1:16:05] in the audience about the level of 52 decibels, so it's close.

[1:16:11] But it's more that other sound that is a very hard sound to control.

[1:16:17] So yes, there are measures.

[1:16:19] Everything comes at a price tag.

[1:16:21] It does drive the project up.

[1:16:22] I won't say that we didn't really have a discussion about the cost and I don't want to speak for

[1:16:29] the rest of council how they made their decision but it wasn't cost wasn't the only driving factor

[1:16:35] because if it was we're you know nobody likes to blow money but we're a wealthy community and if

[1:16:40] it if it could have made this project work then it's definitely worth looking into.

[1:16:48] Next steps, that's going to be up to a discussion with the pickleball players who would like to

[1:16:55] come forward and parks are free for everybody. We don't charge it. I'm not saying I'm here

[1:17:02] or there on this. I'm Switzerland here. But, you know, our dog park is very special and we

[1:17:10] let our neighbors open. We don't ask for a special agreement. We've never had an issue,

[1:17:15] although there was a lot of panic before that dog park opened that it was going to create

[1:17:19] something horrible in our town. Knock on wood, we haven't had anything neighbors sharing with

[1:17:25] neighbors. So unless Beaconsfield or St. Anne's closes the door and says locks it and puts a

[1:17:30] key fob, then you should feel comfortable playing in neighborhoods where you want to just as we

[1:17:36] welcome our neighbors to come and let their dogs swim and play with ours. Do you have anything

[1:17:42] you'd like to add?

[1:17:45] Yes I could I could talk about where the 50 decibel is

[1:17:50] coming from first of all in in our bylaws in bylaw 9.69 on the

[1:18:00] nuisance by light limits the number of noise that could be produced in the

[1:18:06] municipality at the property line at 48 decibels. That's

[1:18:13] very low. Typically, Health Canada will talk about 55 decibel, and there's a common sense

[1:18:23] in the literature that says that you have to reduce that by 5 decibel because of the

[1:18:30] nature of sound that the pickle ball, a pickle ball cord would produce, the impact sound.

[1:18:36] So that's where the 50 decibel is coming from. Although it's higher than the 48 decibel

[1:18:42] we have, we were kind of trying to find a place where it would make sense. So that's where it's

[1:18:50] coming from. And about the mitigation measure, they're quite ugly. They're literally mats that you

[1:18:58] have to put on the fence. And that would be for a nine meter height fence. So it would be a kind

[1:19:08] of a bunker feeling. And even with that you don't reduce the high impact noise at the

[1:19:16] properly line.

[1:19:18] Thank you.

[1:19:19] Three meters.

[1:19:20] Three meters. Sorry. Nine foot. Three meters. Sorry. I got confused.

[1:19:26] You're thinking about that. Invasive weed.

[1:19:28] Yes.

[1:19:29] Well.

[1:19:30] That's what you're thinking about. But it's all the mitigation joking aside.

[1:19:37] We're

[1:19:37] all the options on mitigation are explained in the report that you're welcome to grab on your way up.

[1:19:46] Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Mrs. Hammond.

[1:19:51] Hi,

[1:19:55] Ralph Allison, 704 Devon Place. Ralph Allison, you've bought it? I went too fast. Dana?

[1:20:01] Okay. You're okay? Slower? Meryl Hammond?

[1:20:07] We'll get it. We can go over it after.

[1:20:14] We'll go back to that one, Dana. This is this is Mr. this is Mr. Allison.

[1:20:24] Meryl Streep. Okay. Okay. Mr. Ralph Allison. Ralph Allison, you could just repeat your address.

[1:20:33] Yes. If you could just repeat your address for Madam. 704 Devon Place.

[1:20:40] My question coming out of this has to do with the special noise that's mentioned. Is that going

[1:20:49] to be an element, I'm not speaking just pickleball noise, but is that going to be considered in the

[1:20:57] bylaws, the new the new nuisance bylaws that are under consideration. You're

[1:21:07] asking if the pickleball special noise is under consideration. Well there are

[1:21:12] sounds like that like trucks and cars and whatever that have a similar kind of

[1:21:20] percussive sound. My question is the 50 decibel basis and most towns have not considered some

[1:21:32] of these other new sounds. Are they going to be also a part of the consideration in the nuisance

[1:21:40] bylaws? I'm not sure if I'll answer your question exactly how you were thinking it,

[1:21:46] However, there has been discussion with council about sound in general, but a little bit the

[1:21:54] reverse because there are certain technologies that are starting to become the norm in homes

[1:22:00] such as permanent generators with, you know, since flooding a lot of people have started

[1:22:06] and some of these generators require regular weekly maintenance and we may need to make

[1:22:15] some modifications, you know, not that they're illegal right now, but it's not

[1:22:19] very clear. It wasn't a technology that was very well used, so. That was my

[1:22:25] question. It's a general question. I don't have a specific, but in the new bylaw writing,

[1:22:31] there are things that have changed in our world and we should probably

[1:22:37] consider those kind of things. There is, in fact, in the existing bylaw

[1:22:42] mention about mechanical sound and then you know how do you interpret sometimes

[1:22:49] that kind of thing but it's a sound. Absolutely. Thank you.

[1:23:02] You're not gonna

[1:23:03] be able to spell this one either. We'll get it after.

[1:23:19] I believe someone complained about the intersection 20 and morning you to train whatever happened

[1:23:28] to that.

[1:23:29] So people coming off and it wasn't safe, and I think that many people were talking about that.

[1:23:34] It was possible.

[1:23:37] I don't know if they're often, so it was just a dream.

[1:23:41] So following a citizen who came forward to us, who's sadly at another intersection in another town,

[1:23:55] his father passed away. And so, rightly so, he became much more aware of intersections and brought

[1:24:03] some concerns forward to us regarding that intersection. The traffic committee looked at

[1:24:08] it together with Nick Maverias. And Amir was installed to help pedestrians see better their

[1:24:15] crossing. It's funny because I drive it all the time. I never noticed it either. But my

[1:24:21] tells me mom it's a great thing I'm like okay I'll let everybody know because it

[1:24:26] is there so that's what happened with it yeah thank you is there anybody else who

[1:24:33] has a question no so counselor Thompson I know

[1:24:41] lost your opportunity no thank

[1:24:49] Thank you. Have a good evening, everybody.

2026-09-08 Conseil municipal de la ville de Baie d'Urfé

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