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[Background noises]
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Reinaldo Borges, Chair: We call the meeting
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to order, the Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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You have had a chance to go over the minutes, any comments ?
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We also want to welcome our new member here
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to the city replacing Dwight, Dwight
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went on to a more relaxed life.
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Welcome.
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All those in favor I aye?
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Minutes approved.
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Speaker: Please be advised the following items on the agenda
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are quasi judicial in nature, please be ready to comment when
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the chairman asks for public input for the item .
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All testimony including public testimony and evidence
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will be made under oath or affirmation.
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Additionally, each person who gives testimony
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may be subject to cross-examination.
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If you refuse either to be cross-examined or to be sworn,
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your testimony will be given its due weight.
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The general public will not be permitted
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to cross-examine witnesses, but the public
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may request the Architectural Review
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Board to ask questions of staff or witnesses on their behalf.
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Persons representing organizations
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must present evidence of their authority
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to speak for their organization.
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Further details of the quasi judicial procedures
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may be obtained from the clerk.
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Do we have any disclosures of communications concerning either
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of the items on today's agenda?
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seeing none, please swear in anyone who wishes to be heard
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today..
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Village Clerk Juan D. Garcia: All those providing testimony
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please raise your right hand, do you swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
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thank you.
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Speaker: We received the written confirmation
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they are in Agreeance with the conditions.
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It follows the village code and planning ordinance.
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Brett Loman: This project was originally approved back in 2023
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and awaiting construction for several years.
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The owner and design team have seen opportunities
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for design improvements to the overall site plan as well as
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architectural features.
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What's been presented today is the overall site plan,
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which I can present just briefly in a series of renderings.
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Initially we had a series of external renderings going around
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the perimeter of the property, I supplied those and also provided
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updated renderings so we can see those previously approved versus
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what's being proposed right now .
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On the overall site plan, just a few things
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that are being updated.
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Starting in the Northwest corner,
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originally that was more of a site circulation space and what
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we've done here is to provide a flat grass area .
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As we work around the perimeter of the property,
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we've been identifying corridors for trees, larger specimen trees
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and renderings, we've got the before and after shots
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for the landscaping scheme.
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as we work our way around the site,
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there's an outdoor barbecue area which originally
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was part of the garden before.
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We are presenting an outdoor patio which you will
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see in the exterior renderings.
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The site circulation towards the Northeast corner
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of the property, which is the lower plan right
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is being reconfigured to be more efficient
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as well as for staff parking, exterior work services,
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it's all going to be sheltered by hedging and landscaping
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from the street.
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this area highlights the overall main floor level plan
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and there's three features I want
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to identify that are being updated from the previously
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approved project.
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The first one starting at the upper right originally
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we had an exterior stair tower.
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Since this project has gone underway,
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we realized the better function for this massing which
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remains consistent from the previously approved blueprint
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was a storage condition as opposed
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to an exterior stairway which is not needed.
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The next is the entry vestibule, originally
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the glass ran all the way across but we decided
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to create more of an experiential quality
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vestibule itself which you will see in some of the renderings.
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Reinaldo Borges, Chair: There is no visual aid
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to understand what is really being changed, which puts us
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in a difficult position.
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Are you attorney, architect?
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You understand now how we approve this thing
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three years ago.
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Brett Loman: When this was first submitted,
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it was asked to remove the clouds.
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The last on this plan is this footprint here,
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originally it was proposed as covered parking
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and now we are enclosing this space as an enclosed garage.
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Directly above is this two bedrooms and a common living
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space.
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One of the changes that we made as a bump out here,
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I could have shown what it looked like before versus what
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it looks like now, but the living room and bedroom
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to the right of it had gone straight across
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and now it's being bumped out to increase that area.
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on the upper level the only other changes
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is directly what I explained to the ground floor plan.
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Entry on the ground floor remains
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under the previously approved roof canopy,
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but it is a proper bump out to create that entry vestibule.
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The last change on this plan is the storage tower,
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which originally was the upper portion so it's been converted
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into a storage within the existing footprint that
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was previously approved, it's just
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a change of function within this footprint.
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Brett Schlacter, Board Member: Nothing to disclose.
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Brett Loman: What's been shown on these next slides
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is the originally approved rendering versus the proposed
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rendering which is directly below, and what we need to do
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is take nearly the exact same shot
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so you can understand what was previously
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approved versus what is being proposed at this point.
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Some of my comprehensive comments
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on what was being proposed, what this is showing
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is that the elevation from the cul de sac
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remains nearly identical to the original proposed, so there were
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some functions occurring on the left hand side with the staff
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parking site circulation, but those remain behind landscaping.
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The architectural landscaping itself in this view
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remains consistent.
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Some of the areas I described are further on down the slides.
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Just to reiterate what was previously approved,
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we had the overall landscape hedging on the left hand
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side coming towards the main entry
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to the house which remains consistent with the original,
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and on the right hand side we have this water feature element
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that wraps around toward the right hand side
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and I will get into that on a later slide
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but this elevation remains consistent with what
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was approved.
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This rendering is meant to show the program change
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within the footprint, here the original proposed rendering
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which was approved was consistent
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with the adjacent glass elevations
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and in the proposed rendering we are bumping out the entry
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vestibule to provide a proper entry and more
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of an experiential quality to this project.
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This view up top the original rendering was approved
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with some adjustments to the landscape,
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but the overall massing remains consistent.
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You will see it's very subtle, but the bump out to that portion
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directly above the garage .
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Right here was a covered carport, and on this side
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you will see the garage door so it's a pass through garage
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with a door on both sides.
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The main entry on the garage is on the other side of that .
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This view here, again these are renderings wrapping around
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the house from originally proposed so we took the same
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shots in our attempting to show the adjustment within this
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rendering, this is where the proposed barbecue area was .
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As we wrap around the house, this view
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is meant to showcase the adjustment to the trees.
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On the originally approved rendering
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there's a series on the west or intercoastal
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face of the sea wall.
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As this project has come into realization,
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this views towards the water are better without the palms
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and the landscape architect has adjusted the overall landscaping
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plan as well as provided a bit more privacy and shade
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to the southern elevation of the project.
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This view is showing the change from the approved rendering
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which was a garden space to a flat grass relaxation and play
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area.
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Again, the architecture here remains
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consistent with the original and is
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more of landscaping adjustments as you
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go from the north down to the south and around to the Marina.
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There was a question about the change to the elevation.
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The original stair tower here that was open
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screened, since this is being closed,
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it is now stone that comes down and very
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close to the window that breaks down the side elevation of that.
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I would also like to point out the scale from the street,
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you see originally it extended closer to the side yard property
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line and since then we have extended it a little bit less,
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provided landscaping to work to the advantage of masking that
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stair tower .
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Lastly, when this was being reviewed
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with part of these changes, we added this additional rendering
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to showcase the overall elevation
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from the cul de sac a little bit closer,
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so you could see that mass on the right hand side
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and how it's working to be screened through landscaping.
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Thank you.
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Board comments and questions?
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Speaker: My questions are focused on the stair tower
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in the guest parking area or staff parking area,
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we don't have the before to understand what is happening
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in the staff parking area .
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In that Northeast corner, can you describe the changes,
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and help me understand how you are blocking the views
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from the Marina Basin?
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I see you have a four foot fence called out in minimal
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landscaping there .
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Brett Loman: In the previously approved plan,
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the entrance was at this location so it was not changed,
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and the hedging on the street side remains consistent
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so there's going to be a hedge that runs around on the Marina
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side, we are using a fence which the code can only
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be four feet tall but we are using the fence to impose
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that staff parking area there.
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As you work your way to the left or to plan south,
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that's where the landscaping starts
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to pick up and start to screen those site service areas.
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Before, the area was more of a garden,
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and as the project is coming to realization
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we realized we needed a bit more room for enclosures and things
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like that.
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Everything is enclosed with a fence, and where we can
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we are putting an additional layer
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of landscaping per the guidelines
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to shelter this area from public view.
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Speaker: I think that's going to be an area of concern
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because that is visible from the public basin.
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South, you have a lot more landscape but I think that area
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it looks like you would lose two of these parking spaces .
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I just think more hedging, you can't get more than four feet
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with the structure but I think it's
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going to look nicer because that's
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where they're going to be sitting
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entertaining with their boats, I think
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it would be a nicer experience for the community as well.
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Speaker: The tower, it is very large and I'm pretty sure it was
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me that brought up the concern with the mass .
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I'm probably going to recommend you lose one of these date palms
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and add a larger tree in the right of way there to create
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a larger landscape visual barrier,
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because it's a massive structure,
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35ft tall blank concrete facade.
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It's obscured by a tree that doesn't exist in the plan .
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This is the view here, if you look here you have a 35 foot
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tall concrete wall from the cul de sac .
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If you lose the northernmost one on that,
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I think you'd be able to screen it better with without losing
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the formality of that large colonnade of palm trees .
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That would be my request and recommendation .
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Speaker: I think the trees as shown now really
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start to soften it, I guess it's not a bad idea.
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these are simple things.
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Brett Loman: You're suggesting for more of a specimen tree?
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I think the attempt with this landscaping
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was to try to hide some of this massing,
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because that was a concern when we originally presented.
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I agree with your comments to provide something
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different to try to take away that massing from the street.
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Speaker: Overall, the before and after is represented
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a very harmonious transformation we liked and we approved, it's
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a beautiful house.
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I personally don't see any significant issues,
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there's some layering of landscape
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that architects sometimes push back on but architects love it
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because it does soften a very sort of monumental architecture,
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in this case.
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Those are simple things, I don't know
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if you want to make that a condition
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or a friendly suggestion, the landscape layering.
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I want to point out I'm busy in the neighborhood
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and I'm doing a house across from this one,
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there's a lot of parking already that's Marina parking.
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I'm not saying it's beautiful or attractive,
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there are parking lots you see from around the boat
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but I think layering landscape in front of that would really
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help get the cars to appear more from the perspective
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of the Marina.
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The four foot fence kind of meaningless,
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it would have been nice to see a design for that fence
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but I assume it's similar to fencing
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that we see in the renderings.
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They are probably like 50% or more opacity,
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so there's already an intent to create
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privacy and visual separation.
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so we will put that into our condition.
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We do have public comments.
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these comments come from a neighbor,
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She states you could compare or see
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an overlay of what was approved and what was proposed.
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I think she agreed with me.
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Building taller from the entrance to the East,
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the north feels like we are getting
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blocked in by another wall restricting air movement.
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The color scheme seems to have darkened a bit,
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is there an intention of changing the color scheme
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or is this a rendering effect?
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Brett Loman: I think this is renderings
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and how they've changed over the last few years,
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especially with AI.
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The tree is obviously show a little bit darker
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in this update, the color scheme remains consistent,
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it's just a rendering.
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Speaker: The house seems to be getting even bigger than it
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was, it's enormous.
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My perception is there really no major volumetric change turning
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a carport into a garage , but it doesn't change the massing.
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I like the addition of more green space .
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Those are six comments from a neighbor,
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you could receive these forms from the city I suppose .
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Should we have a motion on this?
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Reinaldo Borges, Chair: Any other public comments
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at this point?
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we are good for moving this forward.
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Speaker: I motion to approve with the condition
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we amend the Northwestern storage tower
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and increase the landscape screening on that side.
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Those are conditions, not recommendations.
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Reinaldo Borges, Chair: Everybody
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agree with those conditions?
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So we move it Forward.
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All those in favor of moving the project forward
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with those conditions say aye?
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Four votes out of four members today, thank you.
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How much more time for completion?
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another year?
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very well.
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Is the next group ready to go?
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identify yourself for the record.
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Speaker: We are here to represent my client,
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as well as his, for a new two story home that is about
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13,000ft².
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I'm sure you guys have looked at the plans that we submitted,
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and there's a lot of renderings that depict different types
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of materials .
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The outside finishes and the overall design,
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it's a beautiful concept.
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We are trying to get everything that the board has requested
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implementing it, we request if possible for your approval.
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That being said, I have my lead designer who is very familiar
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with the project and I want to bring him to the podium
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and explain more about the concept for the design .
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Speaker: For the record before I start,
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full disclosure I am friends with the foxes
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and have seen the plans in the past.
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Speaker: Thank you for having us.
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Martin Litman: I guess I'll start with some of the exterior
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images so that we can explain what the design process and how
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the creative process started , this is the perfect page
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to start with.
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The top renderings are street views
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and the bottom two renderings are courtyard views.
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The whole concept behind how we started the massing
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of the design really stemmed from the existing house that is
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there today .
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I have a picture that I brought here just
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to give a little reference, this is the existing home
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that's here today.
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The owner really liked that layout,
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and that idea about having two one story structures towards
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the street view , so they wanted to maintain that idea even
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though this is esthetically completely different.
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Really that is what started the design
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to try to adhere with the client's request of having
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these structures be the screening towards the street
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to create privacy, and as you continue to the courtyard,
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these one story structures create a connection
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to the two story structure of the residence
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as it continues towards the west through these architectural
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elements here, which are two beams that connect the one story
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structures to later the rest of the home towards the west.
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The idea is to have a very private courtyard,
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and not only are these two one story structures very important
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functional part of the program, but like I was saying,
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it really creates that beautiful private area in front.
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As we continue moving towards the next page,
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we really don't discuss on the interior but we decided
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to include some images so you can see in general and explain
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the cohesion between the interior and exterior
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of materials can really be seen throughout the project .
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we designed the interiors, but we have an interior designer
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that's going to be sourcing and taking care of all the shop
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drawings, et-cetera.
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We have designed the house entirely,
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even though the exterior is here we wanted to really show
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the interior to have a sense of the overall project
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because the materials on the exterior,
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really there's three main materials being used.
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On the board below, you can see all of the wood accents ,
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there's various features.
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You have vertical slats that can be seen here
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which would be on the board.
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Then we have more solid paneling around other areas of the home,
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later we have stone cladding throughout these beams
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and throughout these bands, the roof and the vertical walls,
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and in the center here we have a different stone
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which is more of a marble.
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Those are technically the three materials
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we will be using throughout the project front, rear, interior
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and exterior.
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You can see here how we would tie together the accent
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and at the same time, the wood cladding happens
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to be on the exterior of the portico,
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but then on the interior we bring the marble
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from the front one story structure
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and it becomes a design accent feature,
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everywhere else you have the wood cladding here
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in its different forms.
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Here it's solid, here are the slat versions .
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We also use the slats as a design feature for the entry
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fence and vehicular gate .
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Here on the interior we are using all the same materials,
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the wood and marble and stone.
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As we continue going to the rear,
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we are very consistent with the material selection as well.
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One of the most important features as I mentioned that
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the client really designed, I mentioned one of them was
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in the front which is the one story structures and then
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the other main program desires that they really wanted to have
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their bedroom as far west as possible,
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that's why the entire master suite on the second floor here
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creates the covered terrace below ,
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and you can see on the side here to be able to achieve that
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proximity to the water, we brought all of the master suite
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as close as possible, and then we have a side balcony so it
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wouldn't push the bedroom toward the rear or towards the east,
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so that was really the conception
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behind the rear design.
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The entire master bedroom towards the water creating
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the covered terrace is extremely important,
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and they wanted to have the view towards the Northwest,
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and that's what this balcony is there for.
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When you're in the bedroom, this is the balcony area which is
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an additional seating exterior area .
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In many areas of this house the interior exterior connection,
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nowadays you hear so much about in these modern homes,
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we really wanted to help create that interior exterior flow.
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Even though the bedroom has a lounge area where the study is,
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it continues out towards this balcony and you have that
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Northwest view .
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I guess that concludes the presentation,
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maybe it's good to mention that in the pool
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we have a sunken fire pit as well.
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in a way, the shape of the pool looks
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like it's a straight rectangle, but actually
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the pool of water line is more of a U shape
[41:13]
and the center we carved out a space for the sunken fire pit.
[41:20]
thank you so much.
[41:33]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: Let me ask you a few things.
[41:38]
A few practical things, just coming
[41:43]
from the kind of experience that time gives us.
[41:47]
You have the condensing units on the rooftop
[41:50]
which is convenient because you bring that noise up to the roof
[41:53]
and hopefully it doesn't affect anybody.
[41:57]
But I believe the building code requires
[42:00]
you have access to a rooftop and access for servicing.
[42:15]
so that's just a friendly comment,
[42:17]
because what we typically try to do because a lot of these end
[42:21]
up having roof terraces as well, since we are going up
[42:27]
to the roof tariff with some kind of stair,
[42:31]
you just don't want it to become an afterthought.
[42:35]
This would create imperfection, so think about that the ship
[42:41]
ladder thing becomes a last minute thing .
[42:48]
That's something I think you need to look
[42:50]
at in refining the design.
[42:51]
The other question is about your gates,
[42:54]
we all have this sort of request sometimes
[42:56]
from clients that want privacy to bring their front gate as
[43:00]
high up as possible and it looks like the gate
[43:08]
that you designed seems to be like a ten foot gate.
[43:18]
Is that permitted by zoning?
[43:25]
The note says five feet, but the rendering
[43:29]
is whatever it wants to be.
[43:38]
Martin Litman: At one point the owner
[43:41]
wanted to pursue some sort of variance request,
[43:44]
but they understood we are going to keep it at five feet.
[44:09]
We thought there was some sort of precedent
[44:13]
about it, seeing that it wasn't, maybe
[44:17]
the owner later wants to pursue that in the future.
[44:21]
I don't think so, but.
[44:29]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: Its nice, but also the front door ,
[44:41]
is that in half?
[44:46]
Martin Litman: When it's closed it's supposed to look like 125
[44:50]
foot panel .
[45:00]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: But the actual function
[45:02]
is the lower half.
[45:09]
Martin Litman: Where this beam is is the 12 foot height,
[45:16]
coinciding with the window with the glass.
[45:26]
There's two different types of stones,
[45:30]
there's the actual marble , which is here
[45:36]
and on the interior of the portico which I can point out
[45:41]
in the example.
[45:46]
the idea is for it to be an opposite of Carrara marble,
[45:53]
instead of gray with full white, it's actually
[45:57]
white veins with full gray.
[46:08]
And then we have another stone, which
[46:12]
is more to depict something similar to limestone
[46:16]
but it is still stone.
[46:39]
This idea of warmth which is what we most wanted to achieve.
[46:51]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: The way that the roof is draining,
[46:53]
you try to avoid any dripping, it seems like there's a smooth
[46:58]
parapet all throughout .
[47:13]
Martin Litman: Normal drain on the emergency drain,
[47:18]
but since you pointed that out, to be able to achieve the thin
[47:25]
slab esthetic, we actually have above the windows that's where
[47:32]
we have a drop made out of the same aluminum as the window
[47:37]
frames .
[47:40]
You can really see it here how all of the air conditioning
[47:45]
ducts and the dropped ceiling when you were on the interior ,
[47:53]
the height is to the top of the window but on the exterior to be
[47:56]
able to achieve the thin slab, we are actually dropping
[48:01]
or raising above the windows enhancing the actual aluminum
[48:05]
of the window frames, so that's how specifically here you can
[48:12]
really see how that horizontal line and in the section you can
[48:19]
also see how we achieved in this render .
[48:36]
It's a concrete tie beam, then it will be cladded in the same
[48:41]
aluminum as the window Correct , the glass goes up to the bottom
[48:49]
of the tie beam and then the tie beam will be cladded
[48:52]
in the aluminum.
[49:09]
Martin Litman: It's a detail we thought a lot about,
[49:13]
but the window ends prior.
[49:23]
It was the intention to make it look like the thin roof
[49:30]
line could be more visible, that's why
[49:36]
even the stone in the windows are not
[49:41]
flush with the front of that band, we set it back.
[50:02]
That section is on the portico .
[50:11]
About 60% of the length of this eyebrow
[50:13]
is resting on the portico.
[50:15]
You can see it here, they touch each other.
[50:35]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: It's not about the structure,
[50:38]
is it supposed to read as a band that's just floating
[50:40]
or is it part of the architecture of the two story
[50:46]
element?
[50:47]
I'm not getting that band.
[50:52]
It looks like just a floating piece,
[50:56]
but is it a floating piece or is it part of the whole element?
[51:02]
Martin Litman: That's why this wood cladding does not
[51:05]
go all the way to the top of the roof, the band of what
[51:08]
would be the thickness of the roof is around and has
[51:12]
the continuation and becomes that eyebrow.
[51:14]
Basically it starts in this image where I'm pointing right
[51:19]
now, this would be the balcony.
[51:21]
Gets towards the front and then it turns the corner,
[51:24]
goes all the way around and then it connects back to this balcony
[51:30]
as well.
[51:32]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: I think this is still in schematic mode,
[51:35]
when you slice through a few sections of the house,
[51:38]
sort of the challenge or the calibration here
[51:43]
that is going to be key to success
[51:44]
to maintain the slenderness of those edges
[51:46]
is how you step it down into sort of that lower roof that
[51:51]
then is the one that's draining, and you have that parapet.
[51:56]
I'm trying to imagine how that parapet works,
[51:59]
and you have to feel these are slender canopies.
[52:04]
The challenge always with these canopies is how they deal with
[52:07]
the water and more and more try to sort of push the water off
[52:10]
the edge so it doesn't drip, because when you get that
[52:14]
moisture constantly it starts to grow bacteria and it starts
[52:18]
to get dirty , so these are the things in the tropics that we
[52:26]
need to work out.
[52:28]
You have a lot of edges that appear to be very slender,
[52:34]
I don't know how much water we are capturing and draining.
[52:42]
Martin Litman: The reason for the parapet
[52:45]
is so we can have the height to create the pitch.
[52:51]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: I see you are sloping them quarter
[52:54]
inch back to the preferred roof, I
[52:58]
think that's a good strategy for sure.
[53:06]
Speaker: I like the front of the house, however
[53:08]
I'm looking through the drawings and trying
[53:10]
to understand what you are doing at this level here.
[53:14]
Is this supposed to be the entire house?
[53:19]
is the front portion a one story?
[53:25]
Martin Litman: This is just the main structure,
[53:27]
let me show you the site plan here.
[53:31]
There you can see on the second floor
[53:33]
plan what would be the roofs of the one story structures.
[53:38]
This is the second floor floor plan
[53:41]
that shows the roofs of the one story structures
[53:43]
and then the roof plan shows just the two story structure.
[53:50]
but we will resolve the drainage for the one story
[53:54]
structures the same.
[53:59]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: If you overlay the roof,
[54:01]
you have these two openings for palm trees on the other side
[54:04]
of the entrance but when I go to the roof plan I'm not seeing
[54:08]
that so I'm trying to understand it.
[54:14]
Martin Litman: Because you have that eyebrow that you were
[54:17]
asking me about before that goes across .
[54:37]
The roof comes to here, so basically this area here
[54:42]
would be the eyebrow and this would be the portico.
[55:02]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: A public comment,
[55:04]
and then we will continue.
[55:27]
Heather Brecker: First I will say
[55:29]
that's a beautiful rendering.
[55:31]
We have been residents for six plus years now.
[55:38]
I will read this to you...
[55:42]
For six consecutive years we have
[55:46]
dealt with construction next to or across from our home.
[55:49]
At that time we had a son who was not even yet one years old,
[55:53]
and with no meaningful regard for the fact that we
[55:56]
were residents, our family's home, and the place where
[55:59]
we are entitled to live, reasonably
[56:02]
has been impacted by this construction for our safety,
[56:06]
health, and quality of life.
[56:08]
This has not been a short term inconvenience,
[56:11]
six years is a long time living with ongoing noise, dust,
[56:17]
vibration, distraction, loss of privacy
[56:20]
and the constant intrusion that comes with construction
[56:23]
of not just a single family residence
[56:25]
but as you know some really massive, significant
[56:28]
construction projects in the vicinity five houses down
[56:34]
or across where our home is located.
[56:38]
While we all live in a beautiful community,
[56:40]
we also live in a community, and I
[56:42]
do want you to understand that our living has been impacted
[56:49]
substantially by all these significant construction
[56:53]
projects that are now beautiful homes,
[56:55]
and we have dealt with living through all of this
[56:58]
like I said for six consecutive years.
[57:01]
The burden of that development have
[57:03]
been placed almost entirely on the families who
[57:06]
live in its path.
[57:09]
I don't want to go on longer than this,
[57:11]
but our address should not become a permanent construction
[57:13]
zone simply because development is permitted,
[57:16]
there has to be a point at which the impact to the people
[57:19]
and the lives who live here have matter
[57:22]
and therefore ask you to understand
[57:24]
timely the consideration not only
[57:26]
of just where we are at, but our health
[57:28]
and well-being and the safety.
[57:31]
I will let my husband continue.
[57:38]
John Brecker: It is a beautiful house, unfortunately
[57:41]
we're not going to live there when we have
[57:43]
the burden of construction.
[57:46]
The house across from us is currently building Of 500 zero
[57:52]
square foot house and next to it it's
[57:54]
been five years of that construction.
[57:57]
I brought a picture today of when
[57:59]
we walked in here the cars that are lined up on the street.
[58:02]
Some days it's impossible for us to get out of our driveway,
[58:05]
we've gotten a flat tire, we've had to change multiple,
[58:10]
we've had to change our air conditioning
[58:12]
system because of all the dust.
[58:13]
There's been vibration constantly
[58:16]
that has affected our foundation of our house,
[58:19]
and that's not just our house, that's
[58:21]
people along the corridor.
[58:23]
We've had construction behind us, next to us, and diagonally
[58:28]
for the last six years.
[58:30]
We have a seven year old who can't go out and play
[58:36]
because there are trucks and construction workers constantly
[58:42]
coming by.
[58:44]
I think this needs to be put into consideration,
[58:48]
1300 zero square foot house in a number of years in construction.
[58:52]
We've lived here for six years under these conditions,
[58:54]
and I don't think anyone in this room
[58:56]
would buy a house that you've had construction
[58:58]
of this magnitude for so long, and with the disruptions
[59:03]
that we've had.
[59:04]
There's noise disruptions.
[59:05]
I work from home, there's noise disruptions.
[59:08]
I think that this really needs to be thought of.
[59:12]
As specifics to the house, the two main buildings
[59:16]
they want to build right onto the street, I really object to.
[59:21]
It's going to be a massive project for them to build those,
[59:24]
it's going to be all trucks and noise and dust,
[59:27]
we live right across the street.
[59:30]
Is not taking into account the neighbors that live there.
[59:34]
It's beautiful, but it's a huge inconvenience
[59:36]
to us and to our neighbors, so I think the sign needs
[59:40]
to go back and be changed.
[59:42]
It would be one thing if you kept it all the way back
[59:45]
and had a courtyard, but to build those two pieces,
[59:48]
it's going to be a huge disruption to us.
[59:51]
Not to your clients, but to us, so I
[59:55]
think it needs to be a really thought about design
[59:58]
of this property so it's fair for the people who already live
[1:00:01]
here, along with the timeline.
[1:00:05]
I think there's needs to be a discussion .
[1:00:12]
There's no room to park .
[1:00:20]
Heather Brecker: I have to call the gates sometimes to get out,
[1:00:24]
God forbid there was an emergency.
[1:00:30]
We have two points that have been many times
[1:00:33]
literally blocked and people get in the way and they go fast.
[1:00:37]
If my son is coming home and he just wants to go outside,
[1:00:40]
I'm worried someone's skirting by at 60mph because they want
[1:00:45]
to just get through the area because it's such mayhem.
[1:00:51]
John Brecker: There have been many times
[1:00:53]
you go through the street and can't get through.
[1:00:56]
You either have to wait or go around.
[1:00:58]
This plan of a 1300 zero square foot of this house at this time
[1:01:04]
is not realistic, we cannot handle the amount
[1:01:06]
of construction or vibration.
[1:01:22]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: Thank you
[1:01:23]
for your honest presentation.
[1:01:25]
I'm trying to share and lead this board.
[1:01:32]
My thoughts are that we are trying
[1:01:34]
to look at design, esthetics, consistency, contacts,
[1:01:39]
and there's a criteria we have to follow.
[1:01:44]
What is outside our realm here is really
[1:01:46]
all the issues created by this excess
[1:01:52]
in buying homes, tearing them down, and building
[1:01:57]
larger homes, that's kind of the constant trend.
[1:02:01]
Your city commissioner and the mayor
[1:02:04]
would be the people to really understand your concern,
[1:02:08]
they understand the limitations of what they can do
[1:02:12]
to sort of create legislation.
[1:02:15]
From a design point of view, the city has a zoning consultant
[1:02:21]
that looks at does the house comply with zoning criteria
[1:02:25]
and then the official reports to us as a board ,
[1:02:34]
does the project meet the zoning criteria of the village.
[1:02:38]
Does, otherwise it wouldn't have gotten to us.
[1:02:45]
Then, does it meet the building code
[1:02:47]
and all kinds of other technical aspects of the code
[1:02:53]
officially read into the record and creates a series
[1:02:57]
of conditions to move forward.
[1:03:00]
That's the typical process, I see what you are saying every
[1:03:04]
day, I see it in Palm Island and Hibiscus Island and Palm Beach
[1:03:09]
and Delray and all the beautiful luxury communities we have
[1:03:13]
in Florida that are now gaining a lot of attraction people want
[1:03:17]
to come and live in the same environment that you live,
[1:03:21]
it's a big challenge to all of these communities ,
[1:03:27]
everybody is having to deal with construction traffic .
[1:03:33]
You have an effective gate in trying to manage things,
[1:03:36]
but it is kind of pure chaos because a lot of people
[1:03:41]
are allowed in because they are contractors working
[1:03:43]
different projects, and what they do once they get in,
[1:03:47]
who's going to be policing how they park and drive.
[1:03:52]
All these concerns about safety for yourselves
[1:03:56]
are legitimate comments, but I don't
[1:04:00]
know what to do about it because we have to judge is it
[1:04:04]
contextual, is it going to perform well,
[1:04:07]
does it have adequate landscaping.
[1:04:09]
The two frontal garages are in the zone they are allowed,
[1:04:14]
they are not doing anything that is not allowed
[1:04:16]
but what we see is when people are building these larger
[1:04:19]
homes a lot of times they come to us
[1:04:21]
and they have one parking garage and we
[1:04:24]
say how is that going to work?
[1:04:27]
We do see a future hopefully where a lot of us are not going
[1:04:30]
to be using too many cars , they still have to go somewhere so we
[1:04:37]
do have concerns.
[1:04:38]
This house appears to have two garages for two cars, plenty
[1:04:42]
of car capacity, but your concern is understood by me,
[1:04:47]
and I will just allow the other board
[1:04:50]
members to state the concern and comments about this.
[1:04:53]
We have a resident actually sitting with us ,
[1:05:00]
that's all I have to say.
[1:05:08]
Speaker: The street is very complicated,
[1:05:10]
I can't get out that exit any day, it's always blocked .
[1:05:18]
It's complicated, but I can also say the team have really stepped
[1:05:25]
it up .
[1:05:29]
Trying to impose the requirements to make it better
[1:05:32]
for the residents, but it's not our jurisdiction .
[1:05:58]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: As a public official how do you deal
[1:06:00]
with that, we live in the United States when you buy a property
[1:06:04]
you have certain rights , and then it affects others that live
[1:06:09]
in the neighborhood like you being affected.
[1:06:13]
So how do you legislate to avoid that, you basically
[1:06:16]
have to put some kind of building moratorium,
[1:06:19]
and I don't think that's going to happen.
[1:06:22]
People buy properties, people make investments,
[1:06:25]
and people have rights you can try to challenge them and go
[1:06:30]
through the legal process .
[1:06:45]
if you talk to everyone managing these construction sites,
[1:06:49]
the superintendents and project managers,
[1:06:52]
most of their day is spent talking to the front gate
[1:06:56]
because someone's trying to get in then they have to manage that
[1:06:59]
and then they've got a big piece of equipment being delivered ,
[1:07:05]
it's like that's what you're living every day in about 30
[1:07:10]
active construction sites.
[1:07:12]
It's stressful, puts the stress on the community.
[1:07:16]
As you know, there's a lot of Jewish holidays where nothing
[1:07:19]
happens but it's not enough .
[1:07:35]
It's a real issue, I don't have any solutions unfortunately .
[1:07:51]
I would go to the commission .
[1:08:11]
Speaker: Everything behind the gate
[1:08:13]
is private streets, the civic Association manages the gate
[1:08:16]
access, and that's another avenue for you
[1:08:19]
to communicate about how that is being handled as well.
[1:08:27]
What other communities are doing is
[1:08:30]
they require the contractor to present the construction plan,
[1:08:35]
like on site I'm going to provide parking for 15 cars.
[1:08:42]
Does that really happen , do contractors really buy a minibus
[1:08:50]
to transport their crew to the site, that's not very practical.
[1:08:54]
I don't know what else to say here .
[1:09:11]
Usually these are 2 to 3 year constructions.
[1:09:16]
These have changed architects and designers,
[1:09:20]
owners make changes and they have to get revisions.
[1:09:25]
We can't control that, it's just the way these things evolve
[1:09:33]
because people are creative and they have expectations
[1:09:36]
so it's difficult for us to have any impact
[1:09:39]
on the schedule or the building official, per se.
[1:09:56]
Speaker: The mayor would be the avenue through, and then
[1:10:00]
your community association or even
[1:10:03]
bring it to the community input whether conditions
[1:10:07]
are agreed upon.
[1:10:27]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: That's happening too
[1:10:29]
at the state level, they are superseding our authority
[1:10:33]
to have moratoriums until October 2027.
[1:10:45]
Speaker: If you go to the first page on the plans,
[1:10:47]
there's a note of an ordinance you could look at which protects
[1:10:50]
you .
[1:11:18]
Speaker: We've made sure every construction site has
[1:11:21]
a pre-construction meeting for demolition that's part of that
[1:11:24]
ordinance, we will have that meeting and code enforcement
[1:11:28]
will be part of it, police department and public works all
[1:11:32]
part of that meeting to be able to control the access
[1:11:40]
the vehicles inside the site .
[1:11:51]
That house has been in construction before I got here,
[1:11:53]
and I've been here five and a half years.
[1:11:57]
Keep in mind we can't control that, but just
[1:12:01]
for peace of mind based on the last communication
[1:12:04]
we had with that site, supposedly
[1:12:08]
before the end of September they are going to finish,
[1:12:13]
that's what they've been telling us.
[1:12:17]
This could be any time after now this process,
[1:12:21]
then they have to go through the process of permitting which
[1:12:24]
could take another month and a half to three months
[1:12:27]
and then after that they can start construction.
[1:12:29]
But then, you also have another house across with the other
[1:12:36]
owner similar to this that got approved 4 or 5 months ago that
[1:12:40]
is under construction already , that one should be done probably
[1:12:49]
within 6 to 8 months .
[1:12:56]
But the other one, it will probably be 2 to 3 years
[1:13:02]
so unfortunately I cannot control the construction speed
[1:13:08]
or how they acquire the materials .
[1:13:18]
We have another one inside the dry lot
[1:13:19]
has been in construction for more than four years,
[1:13:23]
but the materials that they picked out
[1:13:26]
and the lead time they've taken that time,
[1:13:29]
unfortunately we can't control that.
[1:13:32]
But I completely understand, if you want we can give you contact
[1:13:39]
information for the construction and you can see the construction
[1:13:46]
contractor at the construction meeting and have a point
[1:13:50]
of contact and hear what we say to them .
[1:14:02]
To be neighbors you cannot start on the wrong foot,
[1:14:04]
you have to be pleasant and passionate and not allow
[1:14:08]
the destruction for the residents of the other
[1:14:12]
neighborhoods .
[1:14:18]
Reinaldo Borges, Chair: We get the idea,
[1:14:19]
we feel your frustration and your pain
[1:14:22]
and we wish we could do something about it.
[1:15:00]
Thank you guys.
[1:15:11]
We have some additional public comments
[1:15:15]
which I will read into the record,
[1:15:17]
they are available for the architects to read.
[1:15:21]
They are very sensible comments ,
[1:15:27]
and then we have public comments from this couple .
[1:15:32]
We can wrap up the feedback, any more questions?
[1:15:40]
Speaker: On the north side you have a single access gate access
[1:15:44]
and no access until you get to the rear yard,
[1:15:49]
so the courtyard I would imagine there will be kids at some
[1:15:52]
point, there's kind of a visual barrier pure .
[1:16:03]
the whole northern 75 by ten feet accessible
[1:16:08]
except from the right of way or the backyard,
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I would just recommend a gate.
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Martin Litman: There's a side exit through the gym that is
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additional .
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The other one, with that garage facing the street and the cars
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having to do a 180, can we screen the lights coming back
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to the neighbors who just left because normally the headlights
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as you are leaving your driveway point down at the street .
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Normally on a structured garage they're
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going to require some sort of visual barrier
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to keep that from happening.
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Speaker: Do you have a fresh air intake system for this house?
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Martin Litman: We didn't do the mechanical problems yet,
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but we always do .
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Jose L. Gomez, Board Member: I've been looking at the plans,
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and there's a little coordination to be done .
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The eyebrow is pretty impressive over already in arch .
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Speaker: We have to trust, there isn't a process where you come
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back after full design and see things,
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it's not going to happen and I think the beauty is that we have
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different brains here and we are all kind of giving you our best
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thoughts to make sure you find great success .
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I think the sign is nicely done and I
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think your clients are happy and you've got consistency
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in the vocabulary, the material, palette is fantastic.
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It's sort of in the execution because we
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want to make sure contractors don't
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cut corners and things like that,
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we wish you good luck on that.
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Excellent job, the feedback you're
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getting from the neighbors is more
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because there's a lot going on, it's a beautiful community
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and people get concerned.
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Speaker: I feel sympathetic .
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Reinaldo Borges, Chair: Let's go forward on this,
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anybody wants to make a motion to approve.
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That was a, I saw it .
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All those in favor say aye.
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you've got four yeses and no official written conditions,
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we are submitting the comments of the neighbors
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for your consideration and wish you the best.
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It depends on the quality of the drawings .
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I think no other official business, so we are done,
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we closed the meeting, no more public comments .
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The world is safe, everything's happy, everything's beautiful.
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The meeting comes to a close, thank you so much!