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Good afternoon, everyone. We will now call
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the May 26th regular meeting of council to order at 2:00
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PM.
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And we have an agenda for our meeting this afternoon.
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Could I please get someone to move the agenda? Councillor Standish, thank you.
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Any changes to the agenda?
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Seeing none, all in favor?
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And opposed. That's carried unanimously.
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Next, we have the 2026 council work plan.
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Any questions on the work plan for administration?
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Seeing none, any objections to receiving the work plan for
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the corporate records? Thanks, everyone.
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That takes us to confirmation of minutes.
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We have the minutes from the May 12th regular meeting of council.
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Could I please get someone to move those minutes?
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Councillor Standish, thank you. Any changes
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or corrections to those minutes?
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Seeing none, all in favor?
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And opposed.
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It's carried unanimously.
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Next, we'll move to invited presentations.
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4.1, Banff Public Library Board update to council,
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and we have
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some members from the Banff Public Library here today. Welcome.
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Oh,
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we love swag.
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So please come on up, Ms. McCormick, and we will be ready
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whenever you're all ears.
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Or we're all ears whenever you're ready. That's what I meant to say.
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Good afternoon, mayor and council.
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Originally, I had planned to come today with a fun and celebratory
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presentation about our Library of Things, the sewing machines, radon
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detectors, community partnerships that are help making the Banff Public Library a
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hub for sustainability, accessibility, learning, and community connection.
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And while that work is still incredibly important, the recent passing of Bill
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28 has significantly changed the conversation for public libraries across
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AlbertaToday, I wanted to briefly speak about what Bill 28
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means for libraries, for municipalities, and for communities like Banff.
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Bill 28 introduces major changes to Alberta's Libraries Act.
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According to the Coalition of Alberta Public Libraries, the legislation gives the
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provincial government expanded authority over library operations,
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including the ability to create age-based restrictions on materials,
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conduct inspections of libraries and records, and issue directives regarding
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compliance. The minister is granted the authority to dictate
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library operations, restrict programming, and enforce rules
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regarding access to specific materials, overriding municipally appointed
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boards and professional staff.
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Libraries across Alberta, including rural systems, urban systems, and
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regional library organizations, have expressed serious concerns about these
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changes. CAP Libraries, which represents 324
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library service points serving 99% of Albertans, has raised concerns around
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privacy, local governance, operational feasibility, and cost.
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At the Banff Public Library and in libraries across Alberta, we already have
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policies, professional standards, and local governance standards in place
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to support families and ensure age-appropriate access to materials.
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Libraries are locally governed by appointed boards that reflect community needs and
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values. Bill 28 entirely changes that model.
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Instead of local decision-making, authority shifts towards provincial oversight and
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future regulations that have not yet been clearly defined.
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As of today, libraries still do not know what materials and material types may be
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restricted, how age verification would work, how
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digital collections would be handled, what infrastructure and physical changes may
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be required, or what financial impact will be on
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municipalities. That uncertainty is deeply
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concerning for libraries of all sizes.
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Public libraries operate with limited staff and tight budgets.
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Potential compliance requirements, including restricted spaces, additional
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staffing, verification processes, collection changes,
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technology modifications, and inspection preparedness could place significant
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operational and financial burdens on municipalities.
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CAP Libraries has noted, and provincial officials have confirmed, that no
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provincial funding has been included for implementation.
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For communities like Banff, libraries are far more than book repositories.
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We are community hubs. We support literacy, early childhood
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development, digital access, newcomers, seniors, students, visitors,
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remote workers, job seekers, and vulnerable residents.
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We provide safe public spaces, free internet, educational programming,
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access to information, and increasingly, access to practical resources through
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initiatives like our Library of Things and Little Free Pantry.
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Libraries work because communities trust them.
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Recent polling commissioned by CAP Libraries found that 82% of Albertans trust
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their local library to make appropriate decisions about materials and services,
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and nearly 70% prefer decisions to be made locally by
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trained staff and boards rather than through provincial-wide rules.
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This conversation is not just about books.
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This is about privacy, local governance, intellectual freedom,
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municipal impact, and maintaining accessible public spaces where people
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can learn, explore, and connect without unnecessary
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burdens. As regulations develop, Alberta libraries are
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continuing to ask for meaningful consultation and practical solutions that
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respect both parental responsibility and the foundation principles of
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public library service.
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I wanted council to be aware of this legislation because it has the potential to
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significantly impact library operations across the province, including here in
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Banff.
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Despite these challenges, our library remains committed to serving this community
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with openness, professionalism, compassion, and care.
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I would also like to respectfully ask council to continue paying attention to this
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issue as regulations develop over the coming weeks and months.
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Municipalities fund and support public libraries because libraries are essential
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public infrastructure. Decisions that affect how libraries operate, what
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barriers patrons and community may face, and what additional costs
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municipalities may absorb should not happen without meaningful
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consultation with the communities and library systems directly
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affected. Municipal governments are key partners in public
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library service, and these changes may have operational, financial, and governance
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implications for communities across Alberta.
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There are a few meaningful ways that municipalities can support libraries through
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this process.
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Advocating for meaningful consultation of public libraries and municipalities
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before regulations are finalized, supporting local library boards and
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professional staff in maintaining community-based decision-making,
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recognizing the potential financial and staffing impacts these changes may create,
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and continuing to publicly support the roles libraries play as trusted, accessible
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community spaces.
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Public libraries are one of the most widely used and trusted public services in
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Alberta. The decisions made now will shape not only the future of libraries
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in Alberta, but the future of equitable public access to
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information and community space.
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Ensuring they remain locally responsive, accessible, and sustainable
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benefits the entire community. Thank you, and I'm happy to answer any questions.
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Thank you very much, Ms. McCormack.
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Before I open it up, I would just say that high level, the
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library is one of the most beloved
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buildings and organizations that we have here in the community.
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It's a program that all ages and stages can plug
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into, and they have their own safe space there
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at the library to learn and to use the computers and
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read books, as you mentioned, as well as all kinds of community programming.
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So the library is very beloved, so thank you for everything you do.
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Thanks for highlighting the impacts of this
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potential bill, and that was all very well
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said. We appreciate being educated on the library's
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perspective. Thanks also for the heavy lift on advocacy.
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We do a bit of advocacy on a number of files, so it's really helpful
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to have that coming straight from the library and putting us in a
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position to where we can help support where it makes sense.
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Really interesting to hear how it could impact municipal
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budgets as well. Thanks for highlighting that.
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We will certainly keep abreast of...
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the latest developments with this bill.
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And in the meantime, again, thanks for being vocal and
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ensuring that the Banff Public Library's voice is heard.
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So on that note, I'll just ask, are there any questions?
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Any other comments?
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Councillor Pelham?
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Sure.
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Very much appreciate you coming to share these updates with
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us, and
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have been thinking a lot about the library, my short time on the board,
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and
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what these changes mean for our
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organization. So,
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we're with you.
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Councillor Pelham. Or, sorry, Councillor Backhouse.
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I'm going to echo a lot of the sentiment here.
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I love the advocacy, and thank you for showing up and speaking.
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It's essential,
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and having our voice and the library's voice at the table.
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I get a little shaky because
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I just want to talk about a quick snippet we heard from
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Jasper in recovery
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and how community sentiment is still
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really strong when there are these community places that are still
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holding space for gatherings. And so thank you for doing it
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now,
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because we're learning that in the redevelopment, and
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looking at
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resilient communities, and you play a huge part in that.
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So thank you for providing that space, and I think you are doing a
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fantastic job advocating for your voice in the future, too.
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So, I hear you and definitely support that.
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Thank you. Anything else from council?
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Thank you very much for being here, Ms. McCormick and board members.
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And we're going to continue on with our agenda, but we know that you folks are
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busy, so we're not offended if you need to leave.
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Thank you again.
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Next, we have public input. We received no
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written submissions or any pre-registrations
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for verbal submissions, so I'll just do a call to the gallery to see if there's
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anyone who wishes to speak on any of the agenda items this
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afternoon.
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Seeing none, we'll move to unfinished business.
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We do not have any. That takes us to
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administrative reports.
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7.1 is a request for decision, proposed
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by-law 496, Squirrel Street Staff Housing
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Partnership with Parks Canada Capital Project, second and third
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reading. Good afternoon, Ms. Abegg.
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Good afternoon, council. Just a very short presentation this
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afternoon. This by-law for the Squirrel Street
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Staff Housing Partnership with Parks Canada was originally presented on April
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28th and received first reading. Following that, it was advertised
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in the Rocky Mountain Outlook on the
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weeks of April 30th and May 7th, which was followed by a 15-day
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petition period. That deadline has passed as of
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May 22nd, so this item is now back in front of council today for
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second and/or third reading. So that concludes my presentation, and I
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welcome any questions.
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Thank you very much, Ms. Abegg. Any questions on
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second and third reading of by-law 496?
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Seeing none, could I please get someone to move that by-law
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496 be read a second time? Councillor Pelham, thank you.
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Any discussion or debate on second reading?
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Seeing none, all in favor?
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And opposed, that's carried unanimously.
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And then could I please have someone move third reading?
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Councillor Ludwich, thank you. Any discussion or debate on
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third reading?
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Seeing none, all in favor?
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And opposed, that's carried unanimously.
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Thanks, Ms. Abegg.
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Moving forward, we have 7.2, request for
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decision, proposed by-law 497, Heritage
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Resource Action Plan, land use by-law amendments,
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the HRAP. Good afternoon, Mr. Michaels.
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The HRAP. That's how I will present.
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For the benefit of the gallery, my name's Dave Michaels.
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I'm the manager of planning services.
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It's my pleasure to present by-law 497, which is a land use
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amending by-law. We also have Marcella Figuero from Green
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Space Alliance, who you may recall from our presentation to
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the Governance and Finance Committee on this proposed by-law, who have been
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drafting and helping us through this process.
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So this is something that council have seen through the Governance and Finance
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Committee, and so I'll just talk through
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the proposed by-law here. So just as a reminder, the Heritage
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Resource Action Plan was adopted by council in March of 2024.
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It includes a total of 32 total tactics aimed at
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heritage conservation, and nine of those tactics specifically
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related to land use by-law amendments.
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The by-law in front of you today has eight of those tactics, and as you may
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recall, we discussed one of those, not being
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applicable anymore because of the changes to housing.
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The Governance and Finance Committee did provide that direction on January the
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27th, and so that direction has been incorporated into the
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by-law for first reading that you see before you today.
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So just a reminder, the guiding principles for these by-law amendments is really to
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provide heritage properties with a relative advantage over other
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properties. It's to prioritize tools that produce an
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indirect benefit to supplement the existing direct benefits.
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So at the moment, grants is predominantly the key
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benefit that we give to designating heritage properties.
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But really, there have been very few tools and tactics to
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really incentivize heritage retention within our community, and so this
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by-law looks to introduce thoseSo really, these by-law
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amendments would all be voluntary in nature, and that's why we hope they would give
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a perceived benefit to heritage property owners above and beyond
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demolishing or the heritage grant.
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And really, it's to create a policy environment that introduces opportunities for
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both heritage conservation and new housing development.
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So, this is probably a little out of date.
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I believe we now actually have less than 183 because we have lost
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heritage structures and, in fact, we received an application for
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demolition of another heritage structure last week.
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So we're continuing to see residential applications, unfortunately,
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with heritage being lost in the process, because the
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majority of those heritage properties on the inventory are in residential land use
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districts.
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So these proposed tactics, of which there are eight, not sequentially
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numbered, but numbered as per the Heritage Resource Action Plan,
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really provide a whole load of opportunities that hopefully
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will incentivize some form of retention of heritage.
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And I'll talk through them all briefly and just how they're implemented through
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the land use by-law changes. So tactic one, pretty straightforward.
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A time extension for permit application. Why is this helpful?
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Mainly because heritage properties are complicated when it comes to
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development.
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So we're just proposing longer timeframes.
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So that means that a permit's just going to not expire quite as quickly
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because it takes that extra time. So typically, at the moment, development
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must be commenced within one year, although we can grant an extension to
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that. So just extending those timeframes up to meet conditions
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within 18 months, and then development must commence within two years.
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So relatively straightforward,
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and just providing that extra time so that developers don't need to worry
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about a permit lapsing when they're working on a heritage property.
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As you will have seen in the report, we also outlined the applicability of each of
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these tactics. So what would you need to
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prove or to be able to do in order to get this perceived benefit from the
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land use by-law? So with some of these, and we've tried to scale
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those appropriate to
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what we're giving away,
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and what we're asking for in return as a municipality.
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So really, this would be any heritage-related development, which is development of
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any property that's on the municipal heritage inventory.
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So not designated, just the heritage corporation have recognized that
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it has some importance for a heritage structure in our community,
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and where that application provides conservation, restoration,
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rehabilitation, or adaptive reuse of the historic resource.
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So really, you have a property that's listed on the inventory.
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If you're investing anything through a development permit, then we will give
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you that extended timeframe for compliance.
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Adjusting the approving authority for development.
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So again, heritage preservation
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really needs to reduce as much risk as possible.
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As we discussed at the Governance and Finance Committee, where the approving
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authority is the Municipal Planning Commission, you're not getting that decision
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until you go to the Municipal Planning Commission for discretionary
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uses. And so really, for heritage-related development, the
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proposal is to keep a consistent point of contact being the
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development officer. So as a development officer, we can approve internally
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a large number of applications, some quite substantial in
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nature. So keeping this point of contact, even for
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discretionary uses, just allows consistency with what we're
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saying as administration, what we think the application needs to do to
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comply with the land use by-law, versus us trying to
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provide guidance and ultimately Municipal Planning Commission making the decision.
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And again, that would be to any heritage property on the inventory that's
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providing a development that doesn't reinvest into the heritage
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structure.
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Sorry,
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with the exception of the non-commercial heritage use, which I'll talk about a
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little bit later on.
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Improve and add certainty to the land use variance process.
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And again, these tactics all came out of the Heritage Resource Action Plan, so
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there was a lot of engagement with heritage property owners in the
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community on those tactics. So these are just implementing those tactics that
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have already been through that process.
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And so again, providing heritage properties that require variance,
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often to accommodate something that already exists on site due to their
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unique circumstances, providing a simpler variance
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test for that specific heritage property.
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And again, that would apply when a variance is being requested for any
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property on the heritage inventory, again, where they're reinvesting in that
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heritage structure.
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So just to run through the variance test.
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I know some of you have sat on MPC before, some of you haven't.
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So just a reminder, an applicant can choose to
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apply for a variance to the land use by-laws.
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When an application doesn't comply with the land use by-law, they can request that
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a variance is applied, and there's certain criteria that that has
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to tick, a whole load of boxes that that has to tick in order to be granted
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that variance. So under the land use by-law, the deviation has to be minor in
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nature.
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It has to not unduly interfere with the amenities of the area or
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interfere or affect the use, enjoyment, safety, aesthetics, or value of neighboring
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properties.
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And it must conform to the use prescribed for the land.
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So you can't vary use.
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And also, there has to be an unusual site configuration, soil conditions, or
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other factors which are peculiar to the site and not common in the district.
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Or the variance will, in the opinion of the development approving authority,
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either improve the design relative to the design guidelines or contribute to the
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preservation of heritage value of recognized historic building.
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So there is, within the variance test currently, already a
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clause that allows a variance specifically for heritage,
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but you do have to tick all these other boxes.So as per your
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direction, we've proposed a second variance test.
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So rather than have this last section in section E
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where
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a development has to also contribute to the preservation of heritage,
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when it does that, there would be a separate variance test.
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And really, it strips away these conditions
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that are in that variance test. And so the only variance
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test for a structure on the heritage inventory when they're requesting a
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variance would be that the proposed development will not unduly interfere with the
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amenities of the area,
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and that they can't change use. So they would be the only things.
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And out of interest, these are the minimum variance requirements
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under the Municipal Government Act.
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So these are verbatim when you have a variance to a land use
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bylaw, you have to at least do these, all the other ones that are included in our
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land use bylaws are addition
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over the MGA. And so the proposal is for that heritage specific
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variance test. We just have the Municipal Government Act minimum of not
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unduly interfering with the amenities of the area, safety, aesthetics, et cetera,
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and not being able to vary use.
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So tactic 12, a wider range of uses permitted.
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So again, heritage properties would benefit from a wider range of allowable uses,
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which may also create a revenue stream for preservation.
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This is something council have already done through allowing
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additional consideration for BnBs or accessory guest
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accommodations within heritage structure. There's some allowances for that.
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But this is expanding that beyond new low
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risk non-commercial uses to residential heritage properties.
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This is something that we highlighted.
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Obviously, introducing commercial uses, in residential
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districts is a big no-no from the National Parks Act and commercial growth
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management. So this is really introducing some non-commercial low
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risk uses that we don't typically see in residential
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districts, but they may provide a benefit within
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a heritage structure. So those are daycare, public education service,
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private education services, public library and cultural exhibits,
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studios, religious assemblies, government services, natural
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science exhibit uses, or professional financial health and office
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services. Some of these uses do have a bit of a gray area
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around commercial use. But the intent in this
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instance would be that they would be non-commercial in nature.
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And lots of these uses could, depending on who the operator
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is, for example, be deemed commercial versus non-commercial.
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So whether it was a not-for-profit organization or the government,
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so us as a municipality or Parks Canada, for example, operating
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these, then they would not be commercial versus a commercial operator.
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Daycares is a prime example. If I had the Dave Michaels Montessori
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School of, Hard Knocks for eight thousand dollars
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a month,
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that would likely be commercial, whereas the Daycare
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Society, for example, a not-for-profit organization,
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would likely not be deemed commercial.
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So it allows that flexibility for us to discuss with Parks Canada
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individual uses and whether they would be commercial in nature and
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allowable.
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There would also be some additional requirements for these uses.
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Again, they would be in residential districts, so we've proposed to kind of put
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some criteria to set expectations,
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making sure that they would maintain the heritage, character, and appearance of the
[28:28]
building. Any alterations required to accommodate that use would be
[28:32]
minimal and compatible with the heritage character of the building.
[28:37]
A development approving authority would be able to establish limits, for example,
[28:41]
on the number of employees, visitor attendance, hour of operation, or the
[28:45]
floor area devoted to the use. So if you think about some of those
[28:48]
uses like a museum, for example, if we had a heritage home that was
[28:52]
opened up as a museum, perhaps you might want to limit the hours so that it doesn't
[28:56]
impact the residential district and surrounding properties.
[28:59]
So allowing that authority within the land use bylaw.
[29:03]
And again, managing vehicle traffic and deliveries and parking to make
[29:07]
sure that it's characteristic of the neighborhood that it would be in.
[29:11]
Also limiting the sale of goods and services to the public,
[29:15]
which would not be permitted except where it was clearly ancillary to the primary
[29:19]
use. A good example would be, say it was a museum that opened
[29:23]
up in a heritage structure, and they sold maybe some postcards or some
[29:27]
books related to the heritage aspect, provided it was operated
[29:31]
obviously by that non-commercial entity.
[29:34]
The proposal is to include language to allow that.
[29:38]
And again, any signage would have to be consistent with the land use bylaw.
[29:43]
These wider range of uses we're proposing would only be
[29:47]
possible on a property that has been designated through
[29:51]
bylaw. So really the highest bar to jump over to
[29:55]
allow these other uses. So that's really the highest bar that we have, is
[29:59]
to require designation through bylaw, through council bylaw, to
[30:03]
protect that structure. So for a use that would change, that would not be
[30:07]
residential for these properties, you would have to designate the property and
[30:10]
legally protect it through a binding bylaw, and that bylaw gets registered
[30:14]
on title, and it happens in perpetuity unless council decide to rescind the
[30:17]
bylaw.
[30:21]
This is also one of the things that we would recommend that would still fall to
[30:24]
Municipal Planning Commission. So the development officer would not be able to
[30:28]
approve these, and that's just to allow more public
[30:31]
opportunity for input on these non-residential uses.
[30:37]
Accessory dwellings.
[30:39]
So heritage properties could benefit from additional housing opportunities
[30:43]
to really help support the heritage structure.
[30:46]
At the moment, there's a limit to one for one, so there can't be more
[30:50]
accessory dwellings than there are primary units on the site.
[30:52]
So this proposed bylaw removes that limitation.
[30:56]
And again, that would be opened up to any property that was on
[31:00]
the heritage
[31:01]
inventoryAn
[31:05]
extended timeframe from compliance or bonusing for required housing.
[31:09]
So this one was tricky, as we highlighted in that January meeting, because
[31:13]
the tactic that came out of the Heritage Resource Action Plan was almost
[31:17]
pitting housing against heritage in this instance.
[31:21]
And so we've tried to work as much as we can to make sure that doesn't happen.
[31:25]
And so the proposals that's included in the land use bylaw allows
[31:29]
for required housing obligations to take more time.
[31:32]
So if there was a commercial or an intensification of use that had a housing
[31:36]
requirement, rather than the current requirement that that housing has to
[31:40]
have occupancy basically before the intensification
[31:44]
happens at the commercial property, just to allow a slightly extended
[31:48]
timeframe. There's likely not many instances where this
[31:52]
would apply, because it would predominantly be for heritage
[31:55]
commercial buildings that were intensifying use.
[31:58]
Dave White Block, Harmony Lane, for example.
[32:01]
If they were changing and they had housing requirements, just allowing them a
[32:05]
slightly extended timeframe to comply with the housing requirements, although
[32:09]
still requiring that they meet those housing requirements.
[32:14]
And again, this would be available to any property that is on the inventory
[32:19]
that includes preservation of the heritage.
[32:23]
Transfer tools, so we talked about this at great length in the January meeting.
[32:28]
So heritage homes are often located in high-density residential districts,
[32:32]
and so really, that means that it incentivizes the
[32:36]
demolition to maximize the maximum floor area that you can build.
[32:39]
Because if you have a small heritage structure on site, it's quite hard to fit all
[32:43]
that extra floor area in and around the heritage building.
[32:47]
And so this really would allow a property owner to transfer the
[32:51]
air rights or really the floor area rights
[32:54]
from the building to another
[32:58]
property for residential use. So rather than
[33:01]
demolish the heritage building that's on site to maximize the floor area,
[33:06]
that we're saying you could maximize that floor area, it just wouldn't be built on
[33:09]
the same site necessarily, and you could transfer that to another property.
[33:14]
So we've got some little graphics to show that.
[33:16]
It's always hard to, again, fill in around existing heritage.
[33:21]
And so you would donate from the heritage parcel to any other
[33:25]
residential property and allow that residential property to have
[33:29]
more floor area than could typically be built on that property,
[33:33]
provided that you don't exceed height and setbacks.
[33:36]
So really, you could just fill in the rest of the box that the land use bylaw
[33:40]
currently limits through floor area, as
[33:44]
long as you don't upset the maximum height or setbacks.
[33:50]
You did provide some additional guidance at the January meeting, and you
[33:54]
wanted to ensure that this residential floor area can be transferred to any
[33:58]
of our lower density districts, and so the bylaw
[34:01]
proposes that, and here's just a quick map guide of where those
[34:05]
lower density districts are. So this proposal for
[34:09]
transfer of the floor area for residential uses, it couldn't be
[34:12]
transferred to any of these areas in red.
[34:15]
So it could be transferred from, but it couldn't be transferred to any of
[34:19]
those districts.
[34:22]
Sorry, Mr. Michaels, can you say that last part just one more time?
[34:24]
About
[34:26]
where is it going to and from?
[34:27]
Yes. So these would be limits to the receiving sites.
[34:31]
So the sites getting more floor area and building above the maximum
[34:35]
density couldn't go to any of these areas in red.
[34:38]
However, if there was a heritage structure in one of these, it could do the
[34:41]
reverse. They could give their floor area to a
[34:45]
different property, although having said that, there aren't many
[34:48]
heritage structures within these districts at this point in time.
[34:52]
Wait another 50 years and there might be.
[34:59]
So again, with those transfer tools, making sure that building height and
[35:03]
setbacks on the receiving
[35:05]
site are complied with. So that property
[35:09]
that's receiving that additional floor area, yes, they could build more than the
[35:13]
bylaw says today, but provided they don't exceed the
[35:16]
height and the setback, which is really the overall building form
[35:21]
in the district that's receiving it.
[35:25]
And again, because this is quite a valuable tool, and this would really
[35:28]
sterilize the property with the heritage on
[35:33]
forever. If you said, "Okay, you could build a maximum floor
[35:36]
area here," but now you're transferring that to another site, we
[35:40]
want to ensure that that doesn't ever come back because you've given it
[35:44]
away. And so really this would also only be allowed for a
[35:48]
designated property, so through protection bylaw.
[35:51]
But we're also suggesting another legal instrument that also
[35:55]
protects. So not necessarily a designating bylaw, but something
[35:59]
similar that protects that building and makes sure there's no
[36:03]
demolition to that heritage structure.
[36:08]
Land use bylaw amendments town wide.
[36:10]
So again, another tactic from HRAP.
[36:14]
So heritage properties often don't comply with the land use bylaw
[36:18]
for a number of reasons. Setback is usually the one that doesn't
[36:21]
comply with.
[36:23]
And so rather than requiring that a variance is considered every
[36:27]
time, what we've proposed in this is really taking
[36:31]
away the need for a variance for heritage properties, more
[36:34]
specifically to height and setbacks.
[36:38]
There aren't many heritage properties that don't comply with height requirements,
[36:41]
with the exception in our CD district.
[36:45]
So really it's just taking away the need to vary those and just
[36:49]
saying, "If you've got a heritage building that currently doesn't comply with
[36:52]
setback or heights, that's fine." That's really what we're doing with this bylaw.
[36:56]
We had talked about what we called a heritage modifier in January, but as
[37:00]
we worked through the language, we felt that it'd just be simpler to say
[37:03]
that for setbacksThat any
[37:08]
heritage structure could project into the setbacks to
[37:11]
facilitate site-specific conditions.
[37:15]
And for building height,
[37:19]
in the land use bylaw, we have different height requirements, especially in our
[37:22]
commercial district, where we talk about height to the midpoint of the
[37:26]
roof, top of a flat roof, number of stories,
[37:31]
or the eave line, cornice line of a building.
[37:34]
In the land use bylaw, we say the most restrictive of any of those when
[37:38]
there's multiple.
[37:39]
So our proposed language is, for heritage is the most permissive would
[37:43]
apply.
[37:46]
And again, this would really apply to any heritage-related development that's
[37:50]
on the inventory, provided that they're doing some form of conservation to that
[37:54]
heritage structure.
[37:56]
That's really all the tactics that are included
[38:00]
within the land use bylaw, the proposed land use bylaw.
[38:02]
One thing we also highlighted within the report is, should council pass first
[38:06]
reading today, the next step to public hearing, we have minimum
[38:10]
advertising requirements that we go through for any land use bylaw amendment
[38:14]
for the public hearing. We have provided some options for
[38:18]
additional budgetary implications for additional advertising,
[38:22]
should council want to do any of those.
[38:25]
Probably would have to come from budget stabilization, should you want to
[38:30]
suggest any of those additional. One thing we would highlight is the
[38:34]
longer it takes us to get to third reading and a
[38:38]
bylaw approved by Parks Canada, the more heritage structures we're
[38:42]
going to lose. Unfortunately, that's the position that we're in at the moment.
[38:45]
We are seeing a lot of residential development, which is obviously great.
[38:49]
But on some sites, it is at the expense of heritage.
[38:52]
And so all these tactics were developed through that heritage
[38:56]
resource action plan because it was felt that they really would provide additional
[38:59]
incentives to not demolish heritage, to provide more
[39:03]
opportunity where demolishing and building lots of residential isn't the
[39:07]
only option. And so the sooner we can get these bylaw amendments
[39:11]
through, the less chance there is we're going to lose more heritage.
[39:15]
However, obviously, if we do more public notification, then it provides a
[39:18]
greater opportunity for members of the public to become informed on the
[39:22]
changes, the implications, and provide input to you through the public
[39:26]
hearing process.
[39:29]
I'll stop rambling and take any questions.
[39:35]
Thank you very much, Mr. Michaels.
[39:37]
Any questions before we get into first
[39:41]
reading? Councilor Ledwidge.
[39:44]
Thank you, Mr. Michaels. What's the property that's
[39:49]
slated for demolition?
[39:53]
The application we received last week was for 345 Beaver
[39:57]
Street,
[39:59]
just behind the Astor there, the heritage name.
[40:02]
I can't remember off the top of my head.
[40:04]
Unfortunately, there were some issues, and it's structurally actually not a
[40:08]
sound building. So it has to come down because it's
[40:12]
structurally not safe at present.
[40:14]
But it is on the inventory. And yep, the
[40:18]
new property owner is looking to demolish that.
[40:21]
Thank you.
[40:24]
Any other questions? Councilor Fullerton.
[40:27]
Thank you, Mr. Michaels. I'm just curious why the
[40:31]
table of public notification was given to us.
[40:34]
Is that a standard course of action in terms of...
[40:36]
I mean, I'm relatively new to this, but do we usually
[40:40]
provide additional public notification-
[40:43]
Yes
[40:44]
... beyond what's necessary?
[40:45]
I wouldn't say there's a usual. Historically, we haven't been
[40:49]
through many land use bylaw amendments,
[40:53]
as much as we have done in the past three years.
[40:57]
Bed and Breakfast, we did an awful lot of additional public
[41:01]
engagement.
[41:02]
The last bylaw that I believe you saw that was around introducing
[41:06]
day cares within additional districts.
[41:09]
We did no additional public notification above the requirement.
[41:13]
So, it really varies depending on council's interest and desire
[41:17]
to do additional notification on each topic.
[41:20]
So we've always provided those. When we think that there's a topic that
[41:24]
the community are specifically interested in and have discussed a lot,
[41:28]
heritage being one of them. This has the opportunity
[41:32]
to really impact a lot of heritage property owners.
[41:35]
And that's why we went through a lot of engagement through the actual Heritage
[41:38]
Resource Action Plan. So there has been lots of engagement
[41:42]
building up to these tactics. So hopefully, the tactics aren't a surprise to
[41:45]
anyone.
[41:47]
But yes, we typically give you those options should you wish to
[41:51]
do additional notification. For the housing amendments, you
[41:54]
directed us to do a lot of additional things, some of which had additional
[41:58]
budget implications, some of which didn't.
[42:03]
That was very diplomatic. Thank you, Mr. Michaels.
[42:06]
I think just to add a little bit of context from the council perspective,
[42:10]
I would say
[42:12]
depending on the complexity of the
[42:16]
proposed changes, we've had public say, "We just
[42:20]
need more time to understand this.
[42:22]
Who can we give our feedback to?" So what we
[42:26]
really try to do is to create these opportunities for people to better understand
[42:30]
what's being proposed to better inform what they would like to
[42:34]
say at the public hearing. So we kind of, at times, have
[42:38]
added this extra layer to help people
[42:41]
get educated and informed to make their presentation at the public hearing.
[42:45]
But certainly, sometimes it's just a public hearing
[42:48]
where folks are equipped to come and talk.
[42:51]
But in the past, we've deviated depending on the nature of the changes.
[42:56]
Any other questions?
[42:58]
I have one around legal and
[43:02]
Parks Canada. So
[43:04]
can you remind me, have these gone through a legal scan?
[43:08]
No, typically we don't do-Um, legal or
[43:12]
Parks Canada until we get past first reading, because of course, if council didn't
[43:15]
want to proceed, then we
[43:19]
don't do that. However, knowing that
[43:22]
we had some ideas that we would know might set off
[43:26]
some
[43:27]
Spidey senses
[43:29]
with Parks Canada. We did have a really good conversation with Parks Canada to try
[43:32]
and understand really what the goalposts were.
[43:35]
I think it's no surprise that commercial development in
[43:38]
residential districts was a no-go, and so we have
[43:42]
had preliminary conversations with Parks Canada.
[43:45]
So,
[43:46]
when they see this bylaw come to them,
[43:50]
I don't think there will be any surprises.
[43:52]
And as soon as or should council pass first reading, then we
[43:56]
will circulate both to Parks Canada for comment, as we did with the
[44:00]
B&Bs. And you may recall, we got some comments back
[44:04]
ahead of second reading, and some amendments were made at second reading based on
[44:08]
Parks Canada's comments. We would do the same thing in this process.
[44:11]
Should you pass first reading,
[44:13]
we would circulate to both Parks Canada and to legal just to have a review
[44:17]
of those. And anything that came up from those, we would recommend changes
[44:21]
at second or third reading.
[44:24]
Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions?
[44:28]
Okay. Oh, Councilor Backhouse.
[44:32]
I'm just trying to get a little bit more clarity on...
[44:34]
And I know it's all kind of hypothetical, but, it's noted that the
[44:38]
Banff Heritage Corporation is potentially planning a heritage
[44:42]
symposium for September. I'm wondering
[44:45]
timeline. Does that fit in with any of
[44:49]
this?
[44:52]
It could do. It would be up to council's direction.
[44:56]
The intent of the symposium is really,
[45:01]
we're the Heritage Corporation, and this is what we do.
[45:03]
Some more of that kind of public
[45:06]
promotion of heritage.
[45:10]
The
[45:11]
benefit, you could wait to have public hearing till after
[45:15]
September and kind of piggyback off that symposium and provide some
[45:19]
information. The challenge is that it might get confusing,
[45:22]
because there are already some tools and tactics that are in place today
[45:27]
that the Heritage Corporation want to promote, and this isn't yet in
[45:31]
place. So,
[45:33]
it could be beneficial to wait and provide all that information, but it could also
[45:37]
be beneficial to try and get these bylaw amendments ahead of that, so
[45:40]
that when they have their symposium, they can say, "Here's the heritage
[45:44]
grant. Here's all the things we're doing, and the land use bylaw has also changed,
[45:48]
and these are the other things you can do," rather than that be kind
[45:52]
of still in the works and not yet implemented.
[45:55]
So, it plays into it in that it's an opportunity
[45:58]
to provide information, and whether that's ahead of a bylaw or post a
[46:02]
bylaw, that's really what we're seeking direction from on
[46:06]
terms of timing.
[46:10]
Thank you. Any other questions?
[46:13]
Okay. Then could I please have someone move
[46:17]
bylaw 497 be introduced and read a first
[46:20]
time? Councilor Backhouse. Thank you.
[46:25]
Just as a reminder, no amendments can be made at first reading.
[46:30]
Move that bylaw 497, land use bylaw
[46:33]
amendment,
[46:37]
heritage conservation
[46:41]
tools be introduced and read for the first time.
[46:46]
Thank you. Any discussion or debate on the motion?
[46:50]
All in favor?
[46:53]
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.
[46:57]
Could I please have someone now direct administration to schedule a
[47:01]
public hearing for proposed bylaw 497? Councilor Standish.
[47:05]
Thank you.
[47:07]
We don't need a date for that at this stage.
[47:11]
Okay.
[47:15]
I move that council direct administration to schedule a public hearing for proposed
[47:18]
bylaw 497 in accordance with the Municipal Government Act.
[47:24]
Thank you. Any discussion or debate on that motion?
[47:29]
Councilor Standish?
[47:30]
If I could just give my personal opinion, I'd like to see the public
[47:34]
hearing sooner rather than later.
[47:39]
Thank you. Does it
[47:41]
help then to put a date
[47:44]
in here?
[47:51]
You-
[47:54]
Yes. So you can put a date in,
[47:58]
or we can work with staff and
[48:01]
find a convenient date with that direction of as soon as
[48:04]
possible. The difficulty is if you name a specific
[48:08]
date right now, then that is the date, but it has been
[48:12]
done before if you wish to
[48:14]
do that.
[48:14]
Oh, I see. Well, we better let you sort it because there's the
[48:18]
advertising requirements and the-
[48:20]
Yeah
[48:20]
... newspaper deadlines, and we need to work backwards.
[48:23]
So,
[48:24]
understood that we want to try and do this as soon as possible, but we won't set
[48:28]
that date today.
[48:29]
Okay. Yeah. We will look at that, try and set a
[48:33]
date, and
[48:35]
let council know. And if there's any issues,
[48:38]
we can amend that.
[48:40]
Thank you. Any other discussion about it? Councilor Ramm?
[48:45]
Yeah. Sorry, just for clarity as well.
[48:47]
So we're passing that we go to a public hearing.
[48:51]
So then in regards to public notification, is that then coming next if that's what
[48:55]
we wanted to see?
[48:56]
That's a great question in terms of sequencing. Yes.
[48:59]
So that would be an upcoming motion to
[49:03]
potentially reopen the budget to potentially
[49:07]
set some kind of publicOne should learn
[49:11]
or what have you. So that would be the following conversation. So yeah, good point.
[49:15]
If there needs to be space for that, we better not set a date.
[49:18]
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking as well.
[49:20]
I think, when we've talked about communications and really ensuring,
[49:23]
especially when it comes to Heritage Resource Action Plan,
[49:29]
it's extremely important for a lot of residents.
[49:32]
So, as we've heard before,
[49:34]
summer is a sprint and so really ensuring that
[49:38]
people can be as active and engaged as they can.
[49:42]
I would just be hesitant to put a date.
[49:44]
I absolutely hear Councilor Standish in regards to making sure that we're getting
[49:47]
it done, especially when we received an application as of last week.
[49:50]
I just want to ensure that the public are well aware, they
[49:54]
have time to give their feedback, and they also can put it in their calendar
[49:58]
while not sprinting during the summer, is my only concern.
[50:02]
But regardless, I will support going forward.
[50:07]
Thank you. Anything else on the motion to set a public
[50:10]
hearing?
[50:12]
Seeing none, all in favor?
[50:15]
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.
[50:19]
So then to Councilor Ram's point, the next part of this conversation could be
[50:23]
about
[50:26]
putting some budget into additional public
[50:29]
engagement. So is there anybody who would like to make the motion to
[50:33]
look at reopening the budget? And then the next motion would
[50:37]
be to have that expenditure, and we can
[50:40]
pick which one at that stage. But step one would be to reopen the budget and
[50:44]
have the conversation. But if no one wants to reopen the budget, then we're done.
[50:51]
Looks like we're done. Everybody get yourselves educated, and please come on
[50:54]
down to the public hearing, and we'll be ready to take your feedback
[50:58]
then.
[51:00]
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Michaels.
[51:09]
Next on our agenda is
[51:12]
7.3, Request for Direction,
[51:15]
Destination Stewardship Council.
[51:18]
Good afternoon, Mr. Entz.
[51:24]
Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.
[51:26]
So I'm going to speak to the report that's in your agenda package, if you just give
[51:29]
me a moment here to get organized.
[51:33]
And so on page 54 of 68 is a report for your
[51:37]
consideration on establishment or moving forward with a Destination
[51:40]
Stewardship Council initiative.
[51:43]
I've highlighted a few key elements for your consideration.
[51:46]
The legislative basis for this is a motion made back
[51:50]
in December of 2024,
[51:53]
that
[51:54]
asked administration to return with a process to move forward with the
[51:57]
establishment of a Destination Stewardship Council.
[52:00]
I would add to this that since then, this direction was
[52:03]
also reinforced through the draft Banff Community Plan,
[52:06]
which references this initiative as well.
[52:09]
So that's something that doesn't appear in this report, but is just for your
[52:11]
interest is that the community plan also references this initiative.
[52:17]
So what is a Destination Stewardship Council?
[52:19]
I tried to provide you with a bit of a
[52:22]
glimpse into that. They're primarily interagency groups that are intended to help
[52:26]
their members, and I'll just read from the report.
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"Take a multi-stakeholder approach to maintain the cultural,
[52:32]
environmental, economic, and aesthetic integrity of their country, region, or
[52:35]
town." And so we've tried to provide you with a few
[52:40]
snapshots of different Destination Stewardship Councils that
[52:43]
exist. They're often established in the United States, for
[52:46]
example, often around protected areas.
[52:50]
Some of these councils are quite
[52:53]
a large tent,
[52:55]
and others are maybe more like a backpacking tent, moving a bit more lean.
[52:58]
And so there's lots of different models that you can adopt, and we wanted to put a
[53:02]
few forward so you can get a sense of what it might look like for Banff.
[53:06]
And that's really the point of this initial exercise, is trying to figure out what
[53:10]
our potential Bow Valley Destination Stewardship Council would look like.
[53:14]
That's really the
[53:15]
first step in moving this forward.
[53:20]
At a minimum, our anticipation as administration would be that it would
[53:23]
have to include key municipal actors and the federal government as an
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absolute.
[53:29]
The reason that tourism exists in the Bow Valley is because we are in a national
[53:32]
park. And so having a national park
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presence in this initiative seems like a
[53:40]
have to have from our perspective in terms of being of value to the
[53:43]
discussion.
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I didn't highlight it, but with most of these Destination Stewardship Councils,
[53:51]
they're not intended to create a new level of government or
[53:55]
reduce or remove any autonomy.
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It's more important to have
[54:01]
key actors in a room that are establishing dialogue.
[54:04]
And interestingly, that doesn't always occur in the Bow Valley.
[54:07]
We have different, for example, tourism agencies between Canmore and
[54:10]
Banff. We have different jurisdictions from federal to provincial, that
[54:14]
are at the east gate. And there aren't
[54:17]
that many forums where we all get together and sit in the same room and
[54:21]
have a discussion about key tourism issues.
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And one of the interesting phenomena that we've seen over the last half century is
[54:28]
the effect of tourism moving down valley.
[54:31]
Banff is no longer the only service center for the National Park.
[54:34]
It's literally, as I like to say, Banff's newest hotels are being built on Bow
[54:38]
Valley Trail in Canmore. That's what tourism looks like today
[54:42]
and will only continue.
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So,
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from administration's perspective, there is value in creating a forum where
[54:49]
we can sit together,
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and this is a chance to help council get a sense of
[54:56]
what that might look like, what the purpose and intent are,
[55:00]
discuss potential membership,
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and have somebody facilitate the initial steps to this process.
[55:06]
This needs to be a collaborative effort as opposed to one being led by any
[55:09]
single municipality or jurisdiction.
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And often that creates a bit of a chicken and egg scenario where you're trying to
[55:17]
get something going. And so the request today is for some initial seed
[55:21]
funding to procure some services to
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helpFacilitate this foundational work.
[55:28]
Administration's suggestion is that we move deliberatively
[55:32]
and incrementally. And so our initial thought was to try to help
[55:36]
establish the terms of reference for such a group, bring it back to council for
[55:39]
their consideration,
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and determine whether or not it's something that you'd like to move forward to once
[55:44]
it has a bit more shape to it. So right now it's
[55:48]
fairly, I would suggest, in its infancy, and
[55:52]
the deal would be to try to
[55:54]
help put a bit more meat on the bone to determine whether or not you would
[55:59]
like to keep moving forward with this initiative.
[56:01]
So, the seed money would be used for procuring consulting
[56:05]
services to help facilitate this discussion.
[56:07]
In other situations like this, we've often moved in a collaborative
[56:11]
format with partners. I'm trying to think about some emergency services
[56:15]
positions and other initiatives that we've taken, and we've had joint procurement
[56:18]
panels and things like that. That seems like a logical way to advance this
[56:22]
process as well.
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So with that, happy to take any questions from council.
[56:28]
Thank you very much, Mr. Enns. Any questions?
[56:32]
Councilor Pelm and then Councilor Standish.
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Thanks.
[56:37]
Just at the end of your presentation,
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you mentioned the idea of a joint procurement panel, and I think that
[56:45]
was one of my key questions about this is the way
[56:49]
this document is written, it kind of seemed like
[56:53]
it was an individual procurement
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process that the town of Banff would be taking on.
[57:00]
So I was kind of curious about that because Canmore has
[57:03]
already
[57:05]
leaned in and is very keen to participate.
[57:07]
So could you explain how a joint
[57:11]
procurement panel would
[57:15]
function and...
[57:18]
Yeah.
[57:18]
Sure. I'll maybe start, and I can think of examples,
[57:22]
like on the Bow Valley
[57:25]
shared emergency evacuation study.
[57:28]
I'm mixing up the words here. It was grant funded,
[57:32]
but a chance for us to work together with colleagues in the Bow Valley.
[57:37]
It's a bit challenging in the sense that each municipality has their own
[57:39]
procurement policy and standards.
[57:41]
As you know, you as council have your own procurement
[57:44]
policy,
[57:45]
and so there needs to be a bit of a discussion to determine how to move that
[57:49]
forward with partners.
[57:52]
And the thought was that it makes more sense for us to do this
[57:57]
in a collaborative fashion than as individuals, each sort of doing our
[58:01]
own thing. And so the more that we can do that, the better, and we'd have to have
[58:04]
that conversation with our colleagues
[58:07]
amongst those key partners.
[58:10]
On that, would that collaboration be with town of
[58:14]
Canmore administration or with elected officials?
[58:18]
What does that framework look like?
[58:22]
Well, this is a little bit of a different
[58:27]
situation. The collaboration on procurement would definitely be
[58:30]
administrative though. That is not often that council
[58:35]
procures things directly.
[58:39]
And really, this direction, and I believe when we approved it in
[58:44]
budget, the emergency services position, you approved half a position.
[58:48]
Canmore approved the other half position because you can't approve things for the
[58:52]
town of Canmore.
[58:54]
So the collaboration is something that will be a part of this,
[58:59]
and we'll have discussions on how to proceed administratively
[59:03]
with them as well. This is a unique
[59:07]
project in the sense that
[59:10]
we are asking for a council rep to be a part of this as well.
[59:14]
So there will be discussions with elected officials as
[59:18]
well and how this could be looked at. As Mr.
[59:21]
Enns said, it's
[59:24]
very important for us, for Parks, the federal government to be here
[59:28]
as a part of it, so there would likely be some discussions.
[59:31]
But first and foremost, the discussions would be with Canmore, and we could
[59:35]
figure it out from there.
[59:38]
Councilor Standish.
[59:41]
Thank you. Mr. Enns, just some clarity.
[59:44]
Can you tell me the correlation between
[59:48]
this Bow Valley Destination Stewardship Group and what we're going to be doing
[59:52]
with human use management?
[59:55]
The overlap, perhaps.
[59:56]
Yeah, it's a great question, and the human use management
[1:00:00]
initiative that council approved was focused on what
[1:00:04]
can the town of Banff do within our own authorities to manage human use in the
[1:00:08]
future. And so as we're moving forward with
[1:00:13]
implementation of that, that's one of the first critical questions, and it really
[1:00:16]
involves drawing the box around what we can control as a municipality.
[1:00:21]
And that's actually relatively narrow in terms
[1:00:25]
of what we can do, and there's a lot of authorities that we don't have.
[1:00:28]
For example, managing the number of visitors that come to our town is not within
[1:00:31]
our authority.
[1:00:33]
But it is within others' authority, and that's
[1:00:37]
important because the Destination Stewardship Council affords the
[1:00:41]
chance for all those partners to tell their own story about what they're doing and
[1:00:45]
share their own initiatives. And so
[1:00:47]
I would say the human use management framework that you approved is highly
[1:00:51]
focused on what the town of Banff can do within our own
[1:00:55]
authorities, whereas the Destination Stewardship Council is about
[1:00:58]
creating a dialogue for others to share what they might be doing so that we can all
[1:01:03]
be enriched by that information and not be surprised by initiatives that others are
[1:01:07]
taking.
[1:01:11]
Thanks. Any questions? Councilor Backhouse.
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Thank you for asking that because I had that question on my mind.
[1:01:20]
These are great examples of who has participated.
[1:01:23]
I like the
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scale of
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Big and small,
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who has shown interest, and how far are we going
[1:01:32]
for destination stewardship? I really love some First
[1:01:36]
Nations mentioned on here, but who's shown interest so far of a
[1:01:40]
partnership or...
[1:01:42]
So there hasn't really been a formal discussion of that yet.
[1:01:46]
So there's not a body out there. I'm not sure.
[1:01:50]
Canmore may have had some conversations after their
[1:01:54]
initial, when it went to their council.
[1:01:59]
I'm sure there would be lots interested in it.
[1:02:01]
I think it's important to have some of those grounding
[1:02:05]
discussions first. How do we start off, how do we set this up?
[1:02:10]
If it's decided that yes, it should go large and then small, or
[1:02:14]
large and figure it out or keep it small, figure it out,
[1:02:18]
we would come back to council with that,
[1:02:21]
or the council representative would bring that
[1:02:25]
back.
[1:02:29]
Thanks. And I guess on that note, so we'll have some motions
[1:02:32]
here. Let's say this does move forward.
[1:02:35]
What is the next step?
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What does the next step look like for us?
[1:02:42]
If this is approved, we'll definitely, the
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first contact would be
[1:02:49]
Town of Canmore, to let them know that we have funding for this as well.
[1:02:54]
And then set up a meeting with the elected
[1:02:57]
official and administration to have a
[1:03:01]
conversation about best ways to proceed from
[1:03:04]
here.
[1:03:06]
And as I mentioned, for Town of Banff, at some
[1:03:10]
point we would want Parks to get involved.
[1:03:13]
Whether that, in what level, we'd have to look at that.
[1:03:17]
But those are discussions that we would have to have, and this is meant to be
[1:03:21]
kind of that initial seed money.
[1:03:24]
And we would go forward from there.
[1:03:28]
Just so council knows, we have been in
[1:03:31]
conversation with Town of Canmore, letting them know...
[1:03:35]
I spoke to the CAO
[1:03:37]
at the beginning of the month, letting them know that it would be coming to this
[1:03:40]
meeting after theirs was approved. And I know Mr.
[1:03:43]
Enns has shared the reports once it became
[1:03:47]
public,
[1:03:48]
with the administration in Canmore as well.
[1:03:51]
So,
[1:03:52]
we would have a follow-up call to arrange a meeting.
[1:03:58]
Thank you. And then Parks Canada's been mentioned a couple of times.
[1:04:02]
Can you speak to their awareness of this?
[1:04:04]
And it sounds like we'd also look to schedule a meeting with
[1:04:08]
them
[1:04:10]
after this one with the Town of Canmore.
[1:04:13]
Yeah. So it has come up at IGL,
[1:04:18]
just as a broad conversation.
[1:04:21]
We'd want to probably have at least an initial conversation with
[1:04:25]
Canmore first to understand where they are at with this process.
[1:04:30]
I think Parks wants to be part of the conversation,
[1:04:34]
but they've got to understand what it is exactly.
[1:04:38]
So there
[1:04:41]
are a lot of inter-agency groups out there, so they would need a
[1:04:44]
formal proposal, but it wouldn't be appropriate to
[1:04:47]
tell Parks what it would be without
[1:04:51]
talking at least with Canmore first.
[1:04:53]
So we'd want to make sure that we have that conversation, and then,
[1:04:57]
we would bring or have a discussion with Parks,
[1:05:01]
and possibly others, depending on how that
[1:05:04]
initial conversation goes.
[1:05:08]
Thank you. Any other questions?
[1:05:11]
Councilor Standish and then Councilor Pelham.
[1:05:14]
Thank you, Mayor Damiano. Question with regarding the funding that we're
[1:05:18]
proposing. Canmore's putting in 40,000.
[1:05:21]
We're proposing putting in 25,000.
[1:05:25]
Can you give me some insight on...
[1:05:30]
First of all, why? Why wouldn't we match what Canmore's doing?
[1:05:34]
And is there some concern,
[1:05:36]
you might not be able to answer this, but is there concern from Canmore that we're
[1:05:39]
not contributing an equal amount?
[1:05:44]
Sure. So with respect to the initial funding,
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and it's a fair question, I
[1:05:51]
thought I would be asked. I kind of compare it to going to a restaurant and
[1:05:55]
ordering the whole meal from appetizer to entrée, dessert all at once versus
[1:05:59]
just maybe pacing yourself. And so we thought we should
[1:06:03]
maybe pace ourselves and just figure out how we want to move forward here,
[1:06:07]
in an incremental fashion. I think Canmore's very excited about this
[1:06:11]
initiative, and their funding reflects that.
[1:06:14]
Our thought was that if we're moving incrementally, we should figure out what it is
[1:06:17]
we're doing and who we're sitting at the table with as a first step.
[1:06:20]
That's kind of the
[1:06:22]
way to get this started.
[1:06:24]
And this is one of the challenges with these initiatives where you have a lot of
[1:06:28]
different expectations at the table, is that some might want to move at a
[1:06:32]
faster pace than others, which is fair.
[1:06:35]
And administration's recommendation is to move
[1:06:37]
incrementally.
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Councilor Pelham.
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Thanks.
[1:06:44]
Mr. Enns, you referenced the Down Valley
[1:06:48]
development and the kind of growth that
[1:06:54]
would ultimately impact Banff.
[1:06:58]
I was just wondering if you could touch on just some basics that we
[1:07:02]
know,
[1:07:03]
what's going on in Canmore and Kananaskis
[1:07:07]
specifically, and just how do we expect
[1:07:11]
that to impact us?
[1:07:18]
Sure. So when it comes to, obviously the provincial government has set
[1:07:22]
a strong focus on growing the tourism economy in Alberta.
[1:07:25]
That's fairly well-known. I can't recite the target off by the
[1:07:29]
top of my heart, but it's about growing tourism in Alberta, and they're looking
[1:07:33]
at growing tourism beyond the traditional national park bases of
[1:07:37]
tourism, and that includes things like the All-Seasons Resorts Act, which helps
[1:07:40]
with development down into the Kananaskis Valley, and we've seen some
[1:07:44]
applications or some discussion about projects that might come
[1:07:48]
forward. And that, if those were to come to fruition, would
[1:07:52]
stretch the tourism footprint in an eastward direction.
[1:07:55]
I think that's actually the intent of these initiatives.
[1:07:59]
And in doing so, the visitor never sees jurisdiction.
[1:08:02]
They just see what they want to do. And
[1:08:05]
if you go on some hotel websites, they'll tell you that the Kananaskis
[1:08:09]
hotels are in Banff. It's just this perception of this area of
[1:08:13]
Banff as anything with a mountain behind it.
[1:08:17]
And so, because the visitor doesn't see that, but there are all these
[1:08:20]
jurisdictional divides, you end up with a really sometimes disaggregated experience
[1:08:24]
as you're trying to explain to them, "Well, oh, actually you need one pass to go
[1:08:27]
into that place, another pass to go here, and then another pass here." And
[1:08:31]
that's not a great experience for a visitor. It's not a great management tool.
[1:08:35]
And some of these things these councils can do is work on trying new share
[1:08:39]
initiatives and try to come up with shared approaches to managing
[1:08:41]
visitation.
[1:08:44]
One of the challenges, of course, is where do you stop when you talk about then
[1:08:47]
down valley impacts, and there's articles in
[1:08:51]
local media this week about people commuting from Cochrane, and that's a real
[1:08:55]
fact. But you
[1:08:57]
need to
[1:09:00]
start somewhere. And I often think starting somewhere means starting
[1:09:04]
with a smaller group and a very focused group as opposed to
[1:09:07]
casting the net wide to
[1:09:11]
hundreds of kilometers down valley, which doesn't
[1:09:14]
maybe not make the sense at the start.
[1:09:24]
Anybody else?
[1:09:26]
Okay. Then we will get into some motions here.
[1:09:30]
So I'll go ahead and move that pursuant to Section
[1:09:33]
9.22 of Procedures By-law 44-8,
[1:09:37]
revisit Motion COU
[1:09:40]
26-128 to approve the amended
[1:09:43]
2026-2028 operating budget, which was adopted as
[1:09:47]
part of the April 28th regular meeting of council, so as to
[1:09:51]
consider further amendments to the amended 2026-2028 operating
[1:09:54]
budget. So this is to open up the budget, and then we'll
[1:09:58]
have the discussion about this expenditure.
[1:10:03]
Any discussion or debate on this motion? Councillor Standish.
[1:10:07]
Thank you, Mayor DeMano. I'm not going to support the motion.
[1:10:13]
believe that we should be focusing
[1:10:17]
on our own human use management state.
[1:10:20]
This is the first step, obviously, opening the budget, but I'm going to save time,
[1:10:24]
hopefully, and try and convince you that
[1:10:27]
I'm not interested in moving this forward at this time.
[1:10:30]
Great initiative, but I think we need to focus on our own backyard first.
[1:10:34]
Mm-hmm.
[1:10:35]
Thanks, Councillor Standish. I appreciate the, "Let's just nip it in the bud right
[1:10:39]
here, this motion," and I definitely see your
[1:10:43]
perspective as well. I get the concept of trying to
[1:10:47]
focus on what we can control, and we are about to
[1:10:51]
set out on this big process, which will take a lot
[1:10:55]
of time and energy and focus. So I can appreciate trying to do one thing at a
[1:10:58]
time.
[1:11:00]
Councillor Ludvig.
[1:11:02]
Yeah. I'm going to be a fly in the ointment as well.
[1:11:04]
There's a lot here that doesn't sit right with me, and
[1:11:07]
the first thing, I'm not sure we have a problem that needs a solution.
[1:11:12]
Second, this was a two-year-old motion made by a past councilor,
[1:11:16]
and that motion was related to post-secondary studies.
[1:11:21]
I find that a bit messy.
[1:11:24]
Third, I think we already have multi-jurisdictional initiatives dealing with
[1:11:27]
destination management, such as a human use management strategy,
[1:11:31]
which we're about to start, the LLT, other committees such as wildlife.
[1:11:36]
And fourth, and maybe most important, it's come up already, if
[1:11:40]
this was to happen, and we need to have strong support, particularly
[1:11:43]
financial from Parks Canada, prior to us
[1:11:47]
considering this, and that is definitely not the case right now, and my
[1:11:50]
understanding is that it won't be ponying up.
[1:11:55]
So 25K to start for me out of taxpayers' money is not
[1:11:59]
trivial, and there's definitely going to be more expenditures down the road.
[1:12:04]
I think we have more pressing and practical things to spend money on.
[1:12:07]
So I also think we need to postpone this or
[1:12:10]
nip it in the bud, to use Councillor Standish's
[1:12:14]
words. Thank you.
[1:12:17]
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate? Councillor Backhouse.
[1:12:23]
Can I ask a clarifying question? I just note that
[1:12:27]
with Canmore's $40,000 commitment, they do have a 12-month
[1:12:30]
scope.
[1:12:32]
Would our funds also be within that same timeframe?
[1:12:38]
I think as Mr. Hands said,
[1:12:41]
we were looking at a smaller section of this.
[1:12:44]
So no, we were looking at
[1:12:47]
kind of that initial phase, get a sense of what this
[1:12:50]
was, and then come back to council
[1:12:54]
for additional funds. We would require additional funds if this
[1:12:58]
were to go forward likely,
[1:13:01]
but it was more of a check-in point,
[1:13:04]
and more of a controlled check-in point because we couldn't go to the next stage
[1:13:08]
without coming back and identifying, making sure that
[1:13:13]
council understood what it was and wanted to move forward.
[1:13:15]
So it would be a shorter term, for sure.
[1:13:20]
Councillor Ram.
[1:13:22]
Thank you. I'm going to support this.
[1:13:26]
One, similar to what admin said, this is
[1:13:29]
written into our community plan. I hear you when it was first brought up
[1:13:33]
from a previous council member, and previous term council as
[1:13:37]
well. However, the length of
[1:13:41]
public engagement feedback was just so massive, and
[1:13:45]
it's written into our community plan.
[1:13:47]
So for that reason alone, I think it's worth giving a shot.
[1:13:51]
So at least for the
[1:13:53]
first initial phase, just to see what it's like, I think that we owe it to the
[1:13:57]
community
[1:13:58]
after that process, specifically, when you look at the foundations as to what we
[1:14:02]
have with council, I think we owe it to the community to look at that.
[1:14:05]
And I think of whenever we see reports and,
[1:14:09]
as I was looking back and when this was also first talked about as well,
[1:14:13]
I personally, whenever I ask a question in regards to
[1:14:17]
transport or what other people are doing, it's always, "Have you heard from
[1:14:20]
Canmore? What are they doing? What are other municipalities doing?
[1:14:23]
What are other stakeholders doing?" And I just see this
[1:14:27]
as collaborative, and I think we pride ourselves
[1:14:31]
on really trying to communicate to others,
[1:14:35]
relying on our positive relationships.
[1:14:37]
So I see this as just another step. Again, it's not
[1:14:42]
long commitment. It's not 10 years, it's not 15.
[1:14:45]
It's just trialing it. It's written into our community plan,
[1:14:49]
so I'm fully supportive of funding this.
[1:14:54]
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate on opening the budget? Councillor Pelham.
[1:15:01]
I, too, will support the motion.
[1:15:04]
I believe strongly that the
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level of communication that we have with our neighbors down valley
[1:15:12]
is essential,
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especially in the next
[1:15:18]
few years, five years, 10 years even.
[1:15:21]
And I think that it's very important that we are dialoguing and
[1:15:25]
collaborating and working together.
[1:15:28]
We are in this valley together, and we need
[1:15:31]
to be present and contribute,
[1:15:35]
and be part of the collective.
[1:15:38]
So I definitely will support this motion to open the budget.
[1:15:44]
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate? Councillor Fullerton.
[1:15:48]
Well, since we're getting into the whole debate on this thing right off the get-go
[1:15:52]
here, I might as well jump in. I'm a little hesitant,
[1:15:56]
and I appreciate the concerns that have been raised here.
[1:15:58]
I'm going to support it just because it's really in its infancy, and what I'm
[1:16:02]
hearing from administration, I agree, we're taking a very incremental approach.
[1:16:07]
I don't dismiss the $25,000 as a trivial amount of money.
[1:16:10]
But I do see there is, from what I'm hearing, some potential benefit in terms
[1:16:14]
of this being collaborative and complementary to
[1:16:17]
our HUMP initiative we have going forward.
[1:16:21]
So, I would like to see some better communication
[1:16:24]
amongst all the players at the table.
[1:16:27]
To me, it's very contingent upon Parks being there, and so that's what
[1:16:31]
I want to see. If we can get some sort of organization here and I could
[1:16:35]
see that going forward, I'll be way keener to support it long-term.
[1:16:39]
For now, I'm going to support it, allowing them to
[1:16:42]
get some of that framework together and we'll see where it
[1:16:46]
goes.
[1:16:51]
Thank you.
[1:16:54]
Since we're getting into it, I
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definitely appreciate that there's still a lot of questions about what this will
[1:17:00]
look like, how it'll function, what is the scope,
[1:17:04]
and I think
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it's just
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a part of the awkwardness of getting this going with multiple
[1:17:14]
players involved. And so I think
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I'm in a position where I feel comfortable taking that leap of faith that
[1:17:21]
we can work together to figure out what this could look
[1:17:25]
like. And I, too, appreciate the measured approach
[1:17:29]
in going into this conversation with those partners.
[1:17:33]
And I think that
[1:17:35]
starting off with an incremental amount of money to bring to
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the conversation will be really helpful to giving
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this some legs.
[1:17:44]
Again, this was in the Banff Community Plan to explore the feasibility,
[1:17:48]
and I think it's important to at least do just
[1:17:52]
that. And that's all we would be committing to at this point, is
[1:17:56]
seeing if it's feasible,
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seeing if Parks Canada sees themself at this
[1:18:02]
table as well, and then we can reevaluate after that.
[1:18:08]
Okay. Any other discussion or debate?
[1:18:12]
Then I'll call the questioning on opening the budget.
[1:18:16]
All in favor of opening the budget.
[1:18:19]
So myself, Councillor Backhouse, Councillor Ram, Councillor Pelham, and Councillor
[1:18:22]
Fullerton. And opposed,
[1:18:24]
Councillor Standish and Councillor Ledwidge.
[1:18:26]
So that motion passes at this time.
[1:18:30]
And then I'm going to go to Councillor Pelham, who's got the next
[1:18:33]
motion.
[1:18:36]
So I had
[1:18:39]
a motion regarding the appointment of,
[1:18:43]
council-
[1:18:44]
Sorry, the-
[1:18:45]
Well, yeah.
[1:18:47]
Well, we've got-
[1:18:47]
Okay.
[1:18:47]
I can make the motion.
[1:18:48]
No. Okay. Sorry. I'll
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stay the course.
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Sorry.
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Do you want to take a recess?
[1:18:57]
No.
[1:18:57]
Okay.
[1:18:58]
Sorry, I'm getting my notes mixed up.
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So I would like to make a motion to
[1:19:04]
further amend the amended
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2026-2028 operating budget by directing
[1:19:10]
administration to work with the Town of Canmore to procure contracted
[1:19:13]
services to facilitate foundational work on
[1:19:17]
establishing a Destination Stewardship Council by
[1:19:20]
allocating up to $40,000 to be
[1:19:24]
funded through the Budget Stabilization ReserveI completely
[1:19:28]
recognize that a couple of councilors are concerned about the
[1:19:31]
value of the investment here. I
[1:19:34]
also really hear the discussion about it
[1:19:38]
being an incremental
[1:19:43]
process, and I believe in the value of an
[1:19:47]
incremental process.
[1:19:49]
So, that is why the phrasing is to allocate
[1:19:53]
up to $40,000. And the reason for the
[1:19:57]
$40,000 as opposed to what administration had proposed as
[1:20:00]
$25,000,
[1:20:04]
is
[1:20:06]
to
[1:20:08]
be fully present and collaborative
[1:20:12]
with our closest neighbor.
[1:20:15]
I do think it's really important that we stand shoulder to
[1:20:19]
shoulder in creating
[1:20:22]
essentially what is going to be a blueprint for how we move forward into
[1:20:26]
the next five, 10, 15, 20 years. We
[1:20:30]
know that the town of Canmore
[1:20:33]
is going to double in size.
[1:20:37]
We know that the town of Canmore is adding
[1:20:41]
1,500, 1,700 hotel
[1:20:45]
rooms in the next couple of years. If we don't think
[1:20:49]
that that's not going to impact
[1:20:53]
residents in Banff,
[1:20:55]
businesses in Banff, our community in Banff, we're
[1:20:58]
grossly underestimating what that impact is going to be.
[1:21:03]
And then there's the dialogue about what's happening in Kananaskis.
[1:21:06]
The All-Seasons Resort Act,
[1:21:10]
I think essentially there isn't a limit on what they're going to be doing
[1:21:14]
there. So, whether we're talking about mega hotels,
[1:21:19]
mega attractions, the people who are going to come and stay there,
[1:21:23]
they're not going to
[1:21:27]
likely just stay there. They are going to stay there and explore
[1:21:31]
here. So again, if we don't think that that is going to
[1:21:35]
have a direct impact on our residents and on our community,
[1:21:39]
I think we're underestimating the force of the
[1:21:43]
future. So I just think that
[1:21:48]
we need to really look at the horizon,
[1:21:52]
and
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I'm not
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suggesting that
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we would absolutely spend all the $40,000, but I think that we need to
[1:22:02]
be nimble enough to be able to if it's required.
[1:22:05]
And it is what our neighbors are doing, and they've shown that support,
[1:22:09]
and I think it's incumbent on us to stand with.
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Thank you very much, Councilor Pelham.
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Appreciate that. Before we get into discussion debate, I had this question
[1:22:22]
and I forgot to ask it. Does anybody
[1:22:25]
have a current snapshot of what the budget stabilization
[1:22:28]
reserve
[1:22:30]
is sitting at?
[1:22:33]
Yes, there's currently approximately $550,000
[1:22:37]
available in the budget stabilization reserve.
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Thank you very much.
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Okay, any discussion or debate on the motion? Councilor Fullerton.
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Thank you, Madam Mayor.
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I agree with you that we do need to be supportive and collaborative with
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our closest neighbor, Canmore, but I will not be supporting your motion simply on
[1:22:56]
the dollar amount.
[1:22:58]
I trust our administration's recommendation of $25,000 being enough,
[1:23:02]
and taking that very cautious, incremental approach.
[1:23:06]
I have no idea how Canmore arrived at the figure of
[1:23:09]
$40,000.
[1:23:11]
I'm going based upon the information we have in front of us.
[1:23:14]
So,
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I'm good with $25,000 being our maximum, but I
[1:23:18]
will still not be supporting $40,000.
[1:23:22]
So, Councilor Fullerton, would you like to make an amendment?
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Do I do that now?
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Yes.
[1:23:28]
Okay, well then I guess I will propose an amendment to the amendment.
[1:23:33]
Or no, that's just a motion. Yeah.
[1:23:35]
Oh, a motion.
[1:23:36]
Yeah.
[1:23:36]
Okay.
[1:23:36]
You're good.
[1:23:38]
Got it.
[1:23:40]
But that would be my amendment?
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Yes.
[1:23:43]
Would be to change it to $25,000.
[1:23:46]
Thank you.
[1:23:48]
So I'll just give Ms. McDougall a moment to get that.
[1:23:52]
So we've got an amendment for $25,000
[1:23:56]
instead of the $40,000. Any discussion or debate on the
[1:24:00]
amendment to 25?
[1:24:03]
I'll speak up here to say,
[1:24:06]
I think it's really important that we come to the table with
[1:24:12]
an amount of money, and at first I also thought matching Canmore
[1:24:16]
felt like
[1:24:17]
more than I wanted to do, but I think
[1:24:21]
it does show that we're in this like they are, and we're ready to
[1:24:25]
be collaborative. The up to language
[1:24:28]
really assures me that it doesn't mean it'll be the whole amount.
[1:24:33]
I think it also helps us keep it small, because Canmore's motion
[1:24:37]
was that they would put in $40,000 contingent on
[1:24:40]
$75,000, and I think that was an amount that they just
[1:24:44]
wanted to have as a baseline to be able to procure some
[1:24:48]
contracted services. So if the $40,000 were to stand, then
[1:24:52]
we've met that sort of threshold they were looking for to be able to
[1:24:55]
contribute as well, and then we can keep the group
[1:24:59]
small to start, which is my preference, before we
[1:25:03]
go large. Earlier there was a question about who wants to be at the table, the
[1:25:05]
answer is everyone
[1:25:07]
. And so I think we need to be really
[1:25:11]
thoughtful and
[1:25:13]
careful in our approach to this to ensure that the right
[1:25:17]
folks are there to set this up for success.
[1:25:19]
So, I agree with you, the 40 feels
[1:25:23]
big, but when I think about it, it
[1:25:27]
helps us match Canmore, it helps us keep this group small
[1:25:31]
to start andAnd the "up to" also reassures
[1:25:35]
me that we might not need all of it. So, my preference would
[1:25:39]
be to
[1:25:41]
keep the 40, so I would not be supporting this
[1:25:44]
amendment at this time.
[1:25:47]
Any other discussion or debate? Councillor Ludwich.
[1:25:54]
I'm kind of losing track on the motions, but just a couple more
[1:25:57]
questions. To be clear, Parks has
[1:26:01]
indicated they're not going to contribute financially, so there's that, and
[1:26:05]
also they haven't approved the community plan.
[1:26:07]
So there's references in the community plan, but that document is not signed
[1:26:11]
off yet.
[1:26:13]
Thank you. So, sorry, the first point you're saying is
[1:26:17]
they have said they would not contribute?
[1:26:19]
That's my understanding.
[1:26:20]
Okay, so we haven't had a formal-
[1:26:23]
I understand
[1:26:23]
... discussion about any of that, so I guess that wouldn't be knowledge that is
[1:26:26]
shared with the rest of the table, or
[1:26:29]
publicly.
[1:26:31]
Well, through some communication, that was my understanding.
[1:26:34]
Okay.
[1:26:35]
So we haven't got an answer from Parks
[1:26:38]
Canada whether they would fund this or not.
[1:26:42]
They wanted to find out more information, so I'm not sure.
[1:26:46]
That's my understanding, anyway.
[1:26:48]
Mm-hmm.
[1:26:50]
Fair enough.
[1:26:52]
Okay, thank you. I just wanted to clarify.
[1:26:54]
Did you have anything else you wanted to say? Okay.
[1:26:58]
Any other discussion about it? Councillor Backhouse.
[1:27:02]
So the 40,000 did make me a little nervous and palms sweaty.
[1:27:06]
I appreciate the wording of "up to,"
[1:27:09]
but I also
[1:27:11]
really trust what administration is saying, is coming at this very
[1:27:14]
incrementally.
[1:27:17]
And not having key players at the
[1:27:20]
table, such as Parks Canada, I kind of feel like it's a sibling conversation
[1:27:24]
before our parents are in the room.
[1:27:27]
Forgive me for the analogy, but I just want to make that a fuller
[1:27:31]
conversation before funds are committed.
[1:27:34]
And I also want to echo that the community plan is in draft
[1:27:38]
form, and I really do
[1:27:42]
want to investigate the destination stewardship,
[1:27:45]
specifically
[1:27:47]
because it would lend more information for human use management
[1:27:51]
here.
[1:27:52]
So,
[1:27:54]
I'm going to support the 25 because I'm comfortable with that amount
[1:27:58]
and just investigating the feasibility of this.
[1:28:01]
And for me, that is having Parks Canada at the table.
[1:28:05]
And within that budget,
[1:28:08]
knowing they're at the table, I would be more comfortable
[1:28:11]
exploring what that collaboration and partnership looks like
[1:28:14]
further. But just at a feasibility, I'm
[1:28:18]
comfortable with the amended motion on the table, and I
[1:28:22]
will be supporting that.
[1:28:27]
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate?
[1:28:32]
There's just one clarity point I wanted to get in, which is that we did have a
[1:28:35]
Parks Canada representative at the Banff Community Plan Advisory Committee,
[1:28:39]
so there was a Parks Canada presence through everything.
[1:28:42]
They've seen everything in that document, and
[1:28:45]
there was intense debate, but there was definitely no
[1:28:50]
alarm bells being raised by anything in that plan, certainly.
[1:28:55]
Okay, so just for clarity, we've got the amendment that changes it to
[1:28:58]
25,000.
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Any other discussion or debate on the amendment?
[1:29:08]
Councillor Pelham.
[1:29:10]
I'm just kind of curious.
[1:29:15]
If this does not pass, then it goes back to my
[1:29:19]
original motion of 40.
[1:29:21]
Correct.
[1:29:22]
And if it passes, then it's 25.
[1:29:27]
Right.
[1:29:29]
Okay.
[1:29:31]
Is everybody clear?
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Procedurally then, if 25 doesn't pass and 40 doesn't pass,
[1:29:38]
nothing's there.
[1:29:39]
Correct. So I think where maybe people are maybe
[1:29:43]
getting tripped up, so administration had recommended 25,000 in the
[1:29:46]
report, but Councillor Pelham made the motion, and she moved it as
[1:29:50]
40,000. We now have an amendment to bring that back to
[1:29:54]
25, which was in the administrative report. So we'll vote on that.
[1:29:58]
If that passes, the amendment passes, then the new motion will read
[1:30:02]
as 25. If that fails, if 25,000 fails, then we'll go
[1:30:06]
back to the original motion at 40,000.
[1:30:09]
And then we'll discuss and debate the actual
[1:30:11]
motion of whether or not the budget for this program
[1:30:15]
moves forward.
[1:30:17]
Councillor Ram.
[1:30:19]
Thank you. I'm
[1:30:22]
comfortable with the wording of up to, but from
[1:30:26]
hearing discussion across the table, I just really want to get this to
[1:30:30]
the finish line. So I'm going to support the amendment for
[1:30:33]
$25,000 to get this across the line so that we have
[1:30:36]
funding. But again, I'm comfortable with the up to $40,000,
[1:30:41]
that admin would have that direction, just to maybe
[1:30:44]
expedite it a little bit along. But again, just hearing from some of the opinions
[1:30:49]
from those at the table today, I will support the amendment
[1:30:53]
for the 25,000.
[1:30:59]
Does anybody need some clarity or...
[1:31:03]
Right, Mr. Gibson?
[1:31:04]
Sure, maybe if I could help. So you're voting on an amount. This is an amendment.
[1:31:08]
If it goes back to 25... So if it's approved,
[1:31:12]
then there's a motion on the table that would read that 25,000
[1:31:16]
would then be in the motion. If it fails,
[1:31:20]
it goes back to 40. Someone can propose a different amendment
[1:31:24]
after that. And I'm not suggesting it, but you could
[1:31:27]
say a different amount.
[1:31:31]
But yeah, so this will just set a number in the
[1:31:34]
motion.
[1:31:36]
And this is a great example, just for anyone else that's listening that
[1:31:39]
cares,Of how administration
[1:31:43]
simply puts a recommendation in a report. That is not a motion.
[1:31:47]
So the motion was made at 40,000. That is the number now and then
[1:31:51]
that has been amended to 25.
[1:31:54]
So,
[1:31:55]
at 25, if that passes, that's what the motion comes
[1:31:59]
back. Then council will vote on the motion
[1:32:03]
once you vote on the amendment. So you still have another chance
[1:32:07]
if there's something else you want to change other than the amount,
[1:32:11]
that could still be amended after this.
[1:32:13]
So right now we're just looking at an amendment that would change
[1:32:17]
the original motion down to
[1:32:18]
25,000.
[1:32:21]
Thank you. For anybody at home, it's like 25 degrees in here.
[1:32:25]
I can feel my brain being cooked.
[1:32:28]
So we'll need a break after this.
[1:32:30]
Yeah.
[1:32:30]
Okay. So we've got an amendment for 25,000.
[1:32:34]
Any other discussion or debate from taking it from 40,000 to
[1:32:38]
25,000? And that's the only real decision point right
[1:32:41]
now. Councillor Pelham.
[1:32:43]
Okay.
[1:32:45]
I am going to support this
[1:32:49]
motion to save the investment and to secure
[1:32:53]
that we move forward with
[1:32:56]
this amendment so that the motion can pass at
[1:32:59]
25. My fingers are crossed.
[1:33:04]
Thank you.
[1:33:06]
Okay. Anybody else?
[1:33:09]
Okay, then I'll call the question.
[1:33:10]
All in favor of 25,000 amendment?
[1:33:17]
And opposed? That's myself and Councillor Ledwidge.
[1:33:20]
So that amendment passes. So we are back to
[1:33:24]
the motion as amended now.
[1:33:28]
So if we could just see that, and then I'll do one last
[1:33:32]
call.
[1:33:59]
Okay, so we've got Councillor Pelham's motion that has been
[1:34:02]
amended to be $25,000 from the budget
[1:34:06]
stabilization reserve. Any last discussion or debate
[1:34:10]
on the motion?
[1:34:14]
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?
[1:34:18]
So that's myself, Councillor Backhouse, Councillor Fullarton, and Councillor
[1:34:21]
Pelham. And opposed, Councillor Ledwidge and Councillor Standish.
[1:34:24]
That motion passes. And then now,
[1:34:31]
I believe we need a motion to close the budget, Ms.
[1:34:35]
McDougall. So can I do that one?
[1:34:38]
So I move to close up that budget.
[1:34:41]
Any discussion or debate on that?
[1:34:44]
All in favor?
[1:34:47]
And opposed? That's carried unanimously.
[1:34:49]
And then I'll go over to Councillor Pelham for the next one.
[1:34:57]
All righty. I have a
[1:35:00]
motion to appoint
[1:35:05]
the mayor to assist with the foundation work
[1:35:08]
associated with establishing a destination stewardship
[1:35:11]
council.
[1:35:14]
I think that this takes leadership
[1:35:18]
at our highest levels, and
[1:35:22]
I think the mayor is best situated to represent the town of Banff
[1:35:26]
on this council.
[1:35:29]
Thanks, Councillor Pelham.
[1:35:31]
We've got the motion there. Any discussion or debate?
[1:35:35]
Councillor Backhouse.
[1:35:36]
I'm definitely going to support this.
[1:35:39]
I think Mayor Demenos sits on a lot of these
[1:35:43]
already kind of,
[1:35:45]
stewardship, I wouldn't call them councils necessarily, but I think this is just
[1:35:49]
creating continuity with a lot of those already existing relationships
[1:35:53]
and keeping the box really clear on what this one could look like.
[1:35:57]
So I am definitely in support of this appointment.
[1:36:02]
Thank you. Any other discussion or debate?
[1:36:06]
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?
[1:36:11]
And opposed? That's carried unanimously. Thanks, Council.
[1:36:15]
And then I believe we just have one more motion.
[1:36:20]
Could I please get someone to move that council direct administration to come
[1:36:24]
back with a report outlining the next steps that are going to be
[1:36:27]
required here? Councillor Backhouse.
[1:36:32]
I move that council direct administration to return to a future meeting of
[1:36:36]
council with a report outlining the
[1:36:38]
required next steps in establishing a
[1:36:42]
destination stewardship council.
[1:36:47]
Thank you. Any discussion or debate on that motion?
[1:36:53]
Seeing none, all in favor?
[1:36:56]
And opposed? It's carried unanimously.
[1:36:59]
Thank you. Mr. Enns.
[1:37:04]
So we'll move forward. We have no notices of
[1:37:08]
motion. We'll go to committee reports.
[1:37:10]
We've got 9.1 through 9.4 there. Any
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questions arising from those
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minutes?
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Any objections to receiving those for the corporate record?
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No, sir.
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Thanks, everybody. We have no new urgent business, so that takes
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us to confidential items 11.1, confidential request for
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direction, draft 2027, 2030 council strategic
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plan.
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So I will move
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that council pursuant to sections 23, local public body
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confidences, and 24, advice from officials of the Freedom of Information and
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Protection of Privacy Act, recess to the call of the chairTo
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reconvene in a closed meeting to be conducted, let's just
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stay in here, please,
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in council chambers and a confidential Zoom meeting environment to consider
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confidential matters with respect to item 11.1, confidential request for
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direction draft 2027, 2030 council strategic
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plan, and bringing into closed meeting with us Ms.
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McDougall, Mr. Gibson, and Mr. Dara, please.
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And Ms. McDonald.
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Any discussion or debate on that motion?
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All in favor?
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And opposed? That's carried, and we'll move in
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camera.Thank
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you, everyone. We are now going to
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rise and report and come out of camera.
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Any discussion or debate on that motion?
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All in favor?
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And opposed? That's carried unanimously.
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Thank you. I will now move that council direct that the proposed
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2027-2030 strategic plan and associated report be
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released as a public document to be included as part of the final
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revised agenda for the May 26th, 2026, meeting once
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administration has made the requested updates so that it may be
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discussed as part of the June 8th, 2026, council open house.
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Any discussion or debate on that motion?
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Seeing none. All in favor?
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And opposed? That's carried unanimously.
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And I believe we have one more.
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Thank you. I will move that council direct that the closed meeting
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discussions remain confidential pursuant to Section 23, local
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public body confidences, and 24, advice from officials
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of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act until such
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time as the matter has been resolved.
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Any discussion or debate on that motion?
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All in favor?
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And opposed? That's carried unanimously.
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Thank you very much for that, administration.
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We have no correspondence, so we're just looking for a motion to adjourn at
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4:27 PM. Councilor Sandish, thank you. All in favor?
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And opposed? We are adjourned. Thanks, everybody.