[0:00] And, Lord, so we just ask that you would guide us, Father God. Lord, your word tells us, Lord, that we need to care about our community, Father God, and the peace and the prosperity. And, God, you have brought us all to this city of banning, Father. And, we're here because we care for this city. We love this city. And so, Lord, we just ask that your blessings will be over this city, God. Lord, that your peace will be in this room tonight, Father God, as we discuss these things about our city. And, Lord, I pray that you would just

[0:30] give us your wisdom, your guidance, and how we need to, what directions we need to go

[0:36] for this community. In the mighty name, we pray in Jesus' name, amen.

[1:01] Thank you

[1:09] Madam Clerk can you give a call roll please?

[1:12] Bearington, Flynn, Miller, Royce, Wallace.

[1:18] Thank you.

[1:20] Madam Clerk, I apologize.

[1:22] We did not close session.

[1:25] As part of our agenda approval, I would like to move.

[1:35] We'll keep the agenda the same, but we're going to move close session report.

[1:41] We're going to resume close session after 9.1 on the agenda.

[1:45] So we'll go all the way through the consent items 9.1, right after 9.1, we'll go back in a closed session and we'll report after that and then continue with 9.2.

[1:56] Are there any objections to that?

[2:04] Okay, I'll make a motion to set the agenda as stated.

[2:08] Second, vote please,

[2:20] I need to re-vote.

[2:23] I need one more vote,

[2:30] thank you.

[2:31] All

[2:33] right, 5-0, thank you.

[2:37] First item is a presentation.

[2:39] The Platinum Safety Award of Excellence 2025

[2:41] for the Revable Public Power Provider.

[2:45] I'm Fred Good.

[2:50] Good evening, Ms. Mayor, members of the City Council,

[2:53] Fred Landwea Electric Utility Director.

[2:55] Tonight I am proud to share with the City Council

[2:57] two national recognition awards

[2:59] that the Banning Electric Utility received

[3:02] from the American Public Power Association,

[3:05] a trade association that represents more than 2,000, not for profit community own electric utilities.

[3:13] The first award here is the 2025 Platinum Safety Award of Excellence.

[3:20] This recognizes banning electric's incident records compared to the number of worker hours,

[3:26] and the overall state of the safety programs and culture that we have over at banning electric.

[3:32] This award, we are one of 200 utilities nationwide to be recognized.

[3:41] The second award is the platinum designation for being a reliable public power provider,

[3:48] or RP3.

[3:49] We were graded in four main disciplines, reliability, safety, demonstrating workforce development,

[3:56] and improvements to our electric system.

[3:59] The EU is one of 37 public power utilities across the United States to receive this platinum designation, scoring a 96 out of 100 points in our award application.

[4:12] So this designation will be good for the next three years.

[4:17] Right now we have a few banning electric staff members if I can have them stand up and be recognized please.

[4:25] We are incredibly proud to earn these two awards tonight and behind me are some of the staff.

[4:34] We have 30 men and women who come to work every day to ensure that we provide reliable

[4:42] electric service to this community.

[4:44] It's nice and long overdue to see their hard work and be recognized on a national level.

[4:51] So thank you for the opportunity to share this with the City Council and I'll be happy to answer any questions if you have any

[5:00] Questions? First of all, I'd like to thank the union department for a fantastic job. I've always been very impressed with the service of our electric. I've been here for since 1999, 27 years. I think my powers been out maybe no more than two, four hours at a time. When it does go out, you guys are very on the ball with the line men. The provider, the service, I've got no complaints and I appreciate all

[5:29] hard work that you guys have been doing and that doesn't go on notice so thank you very much for that

[5:34] job well done and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

[5:46] Next we'll move on to public comments.

[5:50] Three-minute time limitation for any member of the public wishing to address the council on any

[5:55] items that are not currently on the agenda. If you wish to speak you may approach the mic and

[6:02] and state your name for the record, and we'll start with.

[6:07] Hi.

[6:13] Hello, I'm Dr. Carillo, I go by Sharon.

[6:16] I'm the Public Relations Manager for Toastmasters International District 12.

[6:21] District 12 serves the entire Inland Empire across three counties.

[6:25] We have 71 clubs, including a Speaker's Bureau.

[6:32] You might be familiar, Toastmasters is the number one community resource for

[6:36] public speaking and leadership development worldwide for over 100 years. We're so good at

[6:44] what we do, that Google, Toyota, S3, IEP, they look to us for help in developing their employees.

[6:54] Great news, banning. We have a Toastmasters Club here in banning now. It meets at Johnny Rousseau's

[7:02] And the club president in a moment will tell you more about an open house coming up April 20th.

[7:10] Toastmasters helps people with job interviews, promotions, just feeling confident in their goals.

[7:18] We help entrepreneurs who are trying to start a small business.

[7:22] In other words, Toastmasters plays a vital role in the economic vitality of the San

[7:28] Anger-Gonial pass, including and especially banning with our endless Opportunities Club, which meets at Johnny Rousseau's just a few blocks away.

[7:39] We are here to formally invite you to the open house.

[7:43] I have flies that I'm going to pass out because I have been in communication with your city clerk, but I wanted to put a face to the name.

[7:51] Again, Toast Masters is here to support banning.

[7:55] Thank you.

[8:16] Good evening mayor council members and members of the community. My name is Minerva

[8:22] Covert and I am the president of endless opportunities toast masters here in the city of

[8:28] Banny. I also reside here in the city of Banny and toast masters has made a meaningful impact on my

[8:37] life and not only as a speaker but as a leader and a business owner. Communication is the

[8:45] heart of what I do and toast masters has helped me expand in my speaking abilities, how

[8:57] well I listen effectively and also helped me grow as a leader in confidence. As Shadon mentioned,

[9:06] Postmasters is a low cost, high impact leadership lab, and in our meetings, members practice

[9:16] giving presentations, thinking on their feet, conducting meetings, and giving constructive

[9:25] feedback.

[9:26] And all of these skills translate into entrepreneurship in the workplace and in the community.

[9:38] So you might be wondering can anyone really build this kind of confidence and leadership?

[9:46] And the answer is yes.

[9:48] Toastmasters, that's what it's all about.

[9:52] And that kind of growth doesn't happen by chance.

[9:54] It happens in a supportive environment where people show up

[10:00] Stay engaged and are encouraged every step of the way. So we really truly believe that

[10:07] Toastmasters is a valuable resource to the city of Banning. Because when people grow in communication

[10:15] and in confidence, that translates effectively in the workplace, in business, local businesses

[10:25] and in the community as a whole so here's my invitation to you do something your

[10:35] future self will thank you for come and join us this coming Monday for our

[10:42] open house April 20th here located in the city of batting at Johnny Rousseau's

[10:49] Italian kitchen we're gonna have a great time you'll get to see how we

[10:55] We conduct our meetings and you can network and meet our members and I ask that you

[11:03] come and see this for yourselves.

[11:05] We welcome you and we hope to see you there.

[11:08] Thank you very much.

[11:10] Thank you.

[11:23] Anyone online?

[11:26] No.

[11:26] I don't see.

[11:27] We have one more, maybe two more here.

[11:43] Good evening, City Council.

[11:45] My name is Frank Burgess.

[11:46] I've came to Manning in 1956, and I'm still here except for two years now for Sam, but I'm here this evening to advise and give information to the City Council to let you all know that you represent the citizens of Manning, not the developers, and you must consider that, and all the rumors that's going around on a subject that's on the agenda.

[12:14] And I won't speak on it at this time, but it's saddens me to think that we're here this evening to add and add and add on to our community.

[12:29] And people don't want what you're about to vote on tonight, and I'm trying to keep from talking on the subject, but it's pretty dull gone hard.

[12:39] but please shut up. I'm sorry.

[12:48] I'm in the House of Bill Collector.

[12:53] Anyhow, my minutes are still running, but please understand each one of you have

[12:59] an obligation to the 30,000 people in the city of Banny, not to a developer that

[13:05] comes in and is going to make a big promise of this and promise that.

[13:10] That gentleman that's been here for 60 plus years, myself, has seen it come and go, promises, promises, promises, and we're still the same.

[13:22] So please, please, respect the citizens of Banning and not the developer.

[13:28] Thank you very much.

[13:30] Thank you.

[13:51] Good evening, Council.

[13:52] Mayor, my name is Aliyogi Vashuk and I am the president of Banning Chamber of Commerce.

[13:59] So sometimes we're all living in the ecosystem and most of the time compare the business environment as the ocean.

[14:09] There is a lot of fish in the ocean, there is big fish, there is small fish.

[14:13] If you look back at the businesses, there is big fish, big companies, and there are small companies.

[14:19] And sometimes people kind of try to disregard small fish, small businesses.

[14:25] Well, 99.9% of all businesses in United States is a small business, small fish.

[14:36] This small fish employs half of all private labor in United States.

[14:45] This small few small companies they keep money local.

[14:50] So let's say if you look at spending of big corporation on every dollar would be spent only 40 cents space local.

[15:12] So, at the same time, businesses go through the different stages and the economy sometimes goes

[15:20] Sometimes it goes down and in the difficult times who dies out first, big companies, unless

[15:29] you have about fair to survive, but you know they are very big and not very adjustable

[15:35] to sharp changes of economy.

[15:39] Look at small business, I mean you have nothing else to do, but just change your course and

[15:44] re-reliate whatever you do just to stay on the float.

[15:49] Difference between small and big businesses is also that most big businesses that concentrate somewhere in the cities.

[15:59] And small businesses that go to rural and small areas, small areas like us.

[16:04] Do you remember how we try to convince all these big companies come here and they don't want to come?

[16:10] But small businesses stay here and they thrive.

[16:13] So at the end, I would like to say that a family run, print shop, coffee shop or repair business can do more than sell the product.

[16:23] It hires local people, buys from nearby suppliers, pays local taxes and helps keep commercial area active, which can attract more customers from other businesses.

[16:36] So, a simple way to think small businesses are like hidden engine of our community.

[16:45] It doesn't look much, but it does a lot.

[16:47] And at the end, I would like to invite you to the Sunrise Breakfast, which will be tomorrow.

[16:53] And it starts at 7 a.m. at Junior Roosters. Thank you.

[17:11] Good afternoon, Council.

[17:12] So, my name is Sophia Tavado and I have been living here and planning for about three years now.

[17:20] I'm here to try and see and find out exactly what's going on with your billing from your electricity and the sewage.

[17:28] I have never seen anybody with a problem that they cannot correct it immediately.

[17:33] I don't know what kind of managers you have according to accounting and bookkeeping.

[17:39] the figures are so horrible, they're backtracking, and everybody is dealing with it, and I have seen in different areas where we're still going to be charged a certain amount of money for the for late charges when it's not our fault, it's you guys isn't the people that run it, okay, the person in charge should be, they should get rid of that person when a person is in a bind, you bring in a crew, you bring in your people and get the job done.

[18:08] and not just wait to see if that program didn't work for you.

[18:12] You know what, you jumped on it too fast and too soon.

[18:15] So now us people here in batting have to turn around and pay for that what's going on with your accounting department.

[18:22] So I would like to ask a couple of questions to you.

[18:25] How much longer is this going to take, Mayor?

[18:33] We cannot interrupt your public comment, ask your questions, we'll answer them afterwards, okay?

[18:36] Well, you will, okay, I'm sorry about that, but anyway, let's get it done.

[18:40] And you know, this is, I didn't even bring no paperwork with me because you know what?

[18:43] I spend my days, my weekends trying to figure out your paperwork.

[18:47] Okay, maybe it's not your fault but you guys need to get on it immediately.

[18:52] It's stressing me out, okay, and it's stressing everybody else out.

[18:56] Why could we just go ahead and build from where we were, they messed up, okay?

[19:02] And leave that on hold and continue building monthly by month.

[19:06] I have never seen any place or have never lived anywhere where you have two bills in one month, that it's not right.

[19:14] And if they use that program Excel, there's columns, there's columns, there's columns, and there's roles.

[19:20] There's your total for that, there's your total for that, and there's your total for that.

[19:23] Why can't they do that that way?

[19:25] We know where your previous is, to your current, not adding the whole thing, and it tells you that you're late.

[19:31] Anyway, I hope you take care of this issue soon.

[19:34] Thank you.

[19:35] Thank you.

[19:52] Good evening, English Schuiler, resident of Banning.

[19:56] Yeah, I'm going to address an issue of the...

[20:00] The utility bills too, it didn't come up before, as far as I know, maybe I didn't pay attention. I looked at the most recent bill and I never checked before that we have these standard fees for each division on the bill. This is a monthly fee that is assessed to each resident or business or whatever in the rates are different according to the kind of

[20:29] of account we are we are having. And I noticed that the standard monthly fee for the electric

[20:43] was substantially larger than the year before. The same was true for the water and then for

[20:52] the wastewater since I'm on the sewage system. These are residential fees. The total actually

[21:02] was over a $100 a month for residences. And the increase over last year is approximately 30%.

[21:13] I was astounded to see those relationships because I was aware of the 20% increase in the rate.

[21:22] But I must have missed when this was voted in to have all the monthly standard fees raised and for a substantial percentage.

[21:33] Our population is not wealthy in town.

[21:40] In fact, we are a disadvantaged city.

[21:44] How can somebody who gets between $912 a month on social security absorb these cost increases?

[21:57] I think we need to think about it and maybe examine that part of our utility review as well.

[22:08] Thank you.

[22:10] Thank you.

[22:21] Good evening, Council Mayor.

[22:23] I'd like to discuss an item for your procedures manual, but if I could wait till 9.2 when you guys discuss it because it's not on the agenda on that particular item, but you're discussing those things at that time if I could the procedures manual 10.3 or 10.9 if that's OK

[22:52] Harry Sullivan.

[22:54] Since it was brought up a couple of issues about the utilities, I just thought, and this is just information item.

[23:03] Anyways, so I took and I added up my total costs for my utilities city banning less waste management from 2022, up to 2025, the total for the years.

[23:22] And I know that some of the justification for rate increases were, we weren't increasing the rates when they should have been increased prior to this last increase and all that.

[23:38] So anyways, so I had a, I looked at mine and I understand that's just me personally, but nothing really changes around my house

[23:46] as far as the way I operate and things to do, you know, they could have a plus or minus 5% something like that.

[23:53] But anyways, from year 22 to 25, my rate increase

[23:59] went up 54.5% in those four years.

[24:05] So the idea that somehow we haven't been staying up with, you know, the increases and stuff like that just kind of doesn't make sense at least in my case.

[24:18] I don't know about anybody else, but at least in my case, I'm paying in 2025.

[24:24] I paid 54.5% more than I did in 2022.

[24:31] Thank you.

[24:33] Thank you.

[24:48] Good evening, Mr. Mayor, City Council and people of Banning.

[24:52] A couple of council sessions ago, we mentioned diesel fumes, and...

[24:58] And...

[25:00] You don't see them much anymore because they look cleaner, but they do contain things that are not good. Like carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrous dioxide, sulfur dioxide, other chemicals, and little particles. The volume of these gases take up space in the lungs that should be used by oxygen. And so that's not good. Well, they can probably breathe that out.

[25:27] with the particles get in your lungs and stay there, and so these diesel fumes are not benign, they are toxic.

[25:37] Thank you.

[25:53] Anyone online?

[25:57] No, anyone online.

[25:58] Thank you.

[25:59] We'll close public comment.

[26:03] Any city council or committee reports?

[26:13] So, Thursday I went to transportation committee meeting for SCAG.

[26:18] We had a joint meeting and our transportation, our transportation we have been talking about

[26:25] our overview of the games and how transportation is going to be into L.A. They're trying

[26:33] to do a mental rail coming out to Samaritano to bring people into L.A. for the games.

[26:45] The overview of those, they have been coordinating with different jurisdictions across the counties, Riverside County, Orange County, L.A. County, to get people into these games in 2028.

[27:03] So basically that's what we talked about the transportation part.

[27:08] For the joint commission, they were looking at the economic building.

[27:16] They're going to be building a lot of structure in LA.

[27:19] So when people come out, because there'll be people from all over coming out and they want

[27:25] to make it nice and so people can enjoy themselves when they get to the games.

[27:34] Also, last night I had my division meeting and it was just too many, but if you look

[27:41] on the website for the state, the government, it's a lot of A, B's and S, B's, it's out

[27:48] there.

[27:49] Colleagues of City some on day opposed and some on day support, but it's a lot of bills,

[27:55] lots of them.

[27:55] So I informed you to look on there because I'm not going to tell you, you're so

[28:01] many.

[28:02] I had to write a while down, but it's a lot of bills that's coming through to the

[28:07] channel.

[28:08] That's all I have to report.

[28:10] Thank you.

[28:14] Okay.

[28:14] I attended on 327, the WR COG Special Closed Session, which was an all day from 9 to 4 p.m.

[28:25] And it was a special closed session, and we were given a by legal and the WRCOG chair

[28:34] branded dense debt, a conclusion that we could say in public.

[28:43] So at the conclusion of the special executive committee meeting, the committee took action

[28:48] in close session to dismiss Dr. Kurt Wilson as executive director of W.R. Cogg.

[28:54] The action was effective immediately, and per law the dismissal was reported out at

[29:00] the conclusion of the meeting.

[29:03] Okay, also on 3.30 we had a ad hoc animal shelter meeting with Cindy and myself, City Manager

[29:18] Chief of VIA and two of the Code Enforcement Officers and I'll defer that to City Manager

[29:26] to explain what was discussed there.

[29:30] On 4126, I had a meeting at Sun Lakes where my district 3 is.

[29:39] As an introduction to City Manager Gibbs to some of the HOA members there who talked about

[29:46] some of their concerns and the issues that they're facing and it was a very productive meeting.

[29:52] on 4, 6, 27, I had a W.R. Cog meeting and

[30:00] And afterwards, I spoke with Chris Gray, who I asked him about the Sunday's extension, and where that is at, because there was some question on whether we were still going to get funds from WRCog. Because there's so many in the past area, there's so many different projects, high dollar projects, Beaumont, Calamesa, us, that they don't have as much money as they thought they would. And so they had to reallocate it.

[30:31] And basically the allocations that they've agreed to are for the total in the past zone funding is $53.4 million.

[30:43] And out of that, the city of banning will get $24.8 million.

[30:48] And that will be for the Highland Springs interchange and the Sunlake's Boulevard extension.

[30:53] The city of Beaumont will get 13.5 million, and that will be for the SR60 Petrero interchange, and Kalamace will get 14.9 million for the Singleton interchange, Cherry Valley Boulevard interchange, and the county line interchange.

[31:11] So that was good because we felt that banning, because of our two projects, one, especially Sunday extension is a safety issue.

[31:23] And we felt that both, and then also the Highland Springs, which we actually gave 6 million back to Bulmont, so they could do their portrayal.

[31:31] So we felt we should be on priority, which they did, they gave us the largest amount of the money.

[31:39] Also last night, I went to the League of California Cities Riverside Division meeting out in La Quinta.

[31:45] I went because there was a gentleman from the State Board of Equalization, Antonio Vazquez,

[31:52] who was going to speak on Proposition 19.

[31:57] And I don't know a lot of people know what Proposition 19 is, but it was voted in 2020.

[32:02] It supersedes Proposition 50 and undermines Proposition 13.

[32:09] And just two things I would like to point out.

[32:12] And if you're in a 55 and older community and you pass your property onto your child,

[32:25] it used to be that they could just take over the tax base.

[32:30] And now they must live in it as their primary residents for at least the first year.

[32:37] However, for example, in Sun Lakes, we have age restrictions, 55 and older, my oldest is 40.

[32:47] He won't be 55 for 15 years, so if I were to try to pass my property on to my child, they can't live there.

[32:56] They would be forced to sell it, or absorb the higher property tax, which in my case would triple.

[33:04] So the other thing is if a lot of people don't know but if you were to want to rent your property as soon as you go to rent it, it is reassessed the full amount so you cannot rent it.

[33:21] There is movement to try to repeal this or at least modify it.

[33:26] It has continually failed to be put on the ballot, but hopefully like last night he said maybe the Senate will have to take it up, but that may not happen.

[33:36] It was supposed to generate $50 million in five years for fire protection, that was one of the reasons why it was sold.

[33:45] The gentleman spoke last night said there is zero in the fund in five years, zero.

[33:52] So where that money's gone, I do not know, but something that a lot of people aren't aware of, they don't even know what process of 19 is, so I just kind of wanted to give you some information on that.

[34:09] I think that's all I have right now, thank you.

[34:12] Thank you.

[34:12] I

[34:19] also attended the animal control meeting, the two by two on March 30th, and I feel like we're making for progress.

[34:31] Yes, for people who think that we're not doing anything or still working behind the scenes

[34:40] to bring back our animal shelter.

[34:43] So I feel good that we're moving forward.

[34:48] And I thank our new city manager for keeping the ball rolling on that.

[34:53] Thank you.

[34:54] Thank you.

[34:58] Yes.

[35:00] On 3.26, I also attended League of Cities meeting down on Costa Mesa. I'm on Tax and Revenue Committee. And like Councilwoman Walla said, there's about over 120 AB bills out there that I'm being proposed. And Councilwoman Flynn hit on one.

[35:26] Proposition 19 is a big one, people were fooled by it, it's a lot of underwriting to it

[35:33] that was brought out last night that I was not aware of, that took me by surprise.

[35:39] Also on 327 and 28th, I was in Fresno at the Wells Conference, Water Conference, and they

[35:50] They had a tour of the dam up there and something I realized now that I wasn't aware of, a lot of the regulations that's coming down for water are based from what's going on in central in northern California with the farmlands and stuff.

[36:07] So that's why you can make a bill for a half the state when you make a bill is for the whole state.

[36:13] So some of the things that we see is being caused by the stuff that's going on up north in the central California that really is not affecting our water down here in Southern California.

[36:26] So I just wanted to make that known.

[36:29] Also on 4-1, I had an RTA budget and finance meeting and we're purchasing six buses.

[36:42] But now we're second guessing ourselves, we're not really second guessing ourselves.

[36:47] We're thinking about, are we going to have the interstructure to support electric buses now?

[36:54] So that's the big conversation we're having in trying to see what regulations are coming down.

[37:00] Our new regulations are which ones are going to go away, we're not sure.

[37:05] So we're just taking a deep dive look into that.

[37:09] And then on 4-2, I had the T-NOW Committee meeting in Beaumont.

[37:14] And that meeting, people don't know what T-NOW meeting is.

[37:18] It's on Beaumont Transit, Batting Transit, RTA, Sunline.

[37:24] We all get the other and discuss riderships, what programs we have going on in each city.

[37:29] So it's a great meeting because you have a council person there from each city.

[37:35] plus usually the director of that agency and probably a driver are a manager there.

[37:42] So it's great conversation because you get a good look from operations from all sides of it.

[37:49] Also attended last night, the legal cities division meeting, which the proposition 19 was discussed as Councilwoman,

[37:59] Councilwoman, I'm Flint, as mentioned already, and that's it.

[38:05] Thank you.

[38:07] I attended a two by two committee meeting with the Councilmember Miller on the night to discuss economic development in the city to strategize a plan.

[38:18] Also, we're putting together a game plan for upcoming trip in next May with the International Conference of Shopping Centers to bring some development back into our city.

[38:28] So that's all I have.

[38:32] Next up is the Treasures Report.

[38:34] No, I have announcements.

[38:36] I'm sorry, one more time, I'm just something.

[38:38] Any announcements from council members?

[38:39] Yeah, I have.

[38:42] So I got an email today from Mr. Siva on April 18th,

[38:49] downtown, Bannon's going to be an art walk.

[38:52] It'd be one to 4 p.m. Saturday, April 18th.

[38:57] Enjoy music and art and make art time travel history tour.

[39:01] corner Ramsey Street and San Antonio Avenue, that's where they'll be.

[39:06] And also the Baton Women's Club, they'll be having their fashion show,

[39:11] which will be June the 20th at the Baton Women's Club.

[39:16] So I'll let you know we're starting to sell tickets stuff.

[39:19] So if you want to buy tickets, I'm a member.

[39:21] You can just ask me and I'll get a ticket for you.

[39:25] Thank you.

[39:27] Okay, I wasn't sure where to put this but I wanted to bring this up.

[39:32] This was in the press enterprise and we grapple with the jail here outside of banning and

[39:42] all the inmates in the mental health and drug addiction problems.

[39:47] So the sheriff of San Bernardino has a new program that he has introduced and

[39:53] I think it's something that we should look at also.

[39:58] I'll just read some of the parts.

[40:00] This year, it's Mr. Discus is the sheriff there. And in Southern California, county jails have become the largest mental health care providers in the region, with estimates that half or more of the facilities consist of inmates struggling with mental illness or drug addiction or both. And they have a program that they're basing after a Nashville Tennessee program that's been very successful. It's going to be at the Glen

[40:29] Unhell and Rehabilitation Center, which will connect inmates afflicted with mental health and substance use disorders to essential services and housing after they are released from the prison.

[40:42] The program will serve up to 90 inmates who will be moved into housing units at the jail that are being retrofitted with cubicle style bed space and apartment style space.

[40:55] And they will be working as they'll have a Department of Behavioral Health to that will assess each of the inmates on their level of severity.

[41:07] And then those selected will be put in the program and they'll work with mental health specialists or a case worker within 90 days of their release.

[41:19] and together, they'll develop a treatment plan and connect participants with community organizations offering housing, education, job skills, and vocational training.

[41:29] So once emitted into the program, this is in Tennessee, the average stay was about three weeks, and after they, if they successfully completed the program, their criminal charges are expunged.

[41:45] The recidivism rate in Tennessee before this program was about 90% and now it is 20%.

[41:54] So this is a great program.

[41:57] I think we, I know you're on the ad hoc committee, both of you, for liaison with the jail.

[42:03] And I think this would be something we need to look into.

[42:09] and because of our jail here and so I would like to announce that. I don't know where to put it but I thought it was important to talk about and maybe the city manager can connect with that.

[42:23] Thank you. I'll put down.

[42:27] I have nothing.

[42:30] No, okay.

[42:36] Treasurer's report.

[42:46] Good evening.

[42:47] Mayor, council members, citizens here tonight, and those watching at home.

[42:53] Tonight it is both my honor and my legal duty to present the March 2026 City Treasurer's

[42:59] report.

[43:00] Coffee said this report had been provided to the City Clerk to include in the official

[43:05] record and for each City Council member to receive a copy.

[43:08] However, I want to note briefly, but clearly, there are no extra copies available to the public this evening on the table, as the treasure continues to be denied access to basic printing resources.

[43:22] Going forward, I respectfully request the Treasure's report is an agenda item, not simply a report, so it allows for discussion, transparency, and public access, because transparency is not a formality.

[43:36] is the foundation of public trust.

[43:39] Tonight's focus centers on three simple but critical questions.

[43:44] One, did March bring more income than expenses?

[43:48] Number two, do we have more or less cash than one year ago?

[43:53] And three, are we maximizing interest on the public's money?

[43:58] Item number one, income versus expenses.

[44:01] Let's begin with the first question.

[44:02] Did Vanning bring in more than it spent in March?

[44:06] We all know if you have more than you spent, you're in good shape.

[44:10] So the total income was $11.8 million, total expenses were $8.4 million.

[44:16] The result, yes, Vanning brought in $3.4 million more than it spent in March.

[44:23] March was a positive month, but one good month leads to a larger question.

[44:29] Are we building momentum or are we just having moments?

[44:35] Item two, cash position, which is the bigger picture.

[44:39] Now, the question I often hear is people say to me, is banning broke?

[44:45] People don't ask casually.

[44:48] They ask with concern and sometimes they ask expecting me to agree.

[44:55] So let's answer their question with facts.

[44:58] as of March 31st.

[45:00] First, which was just 14 days two weeks ago, total cash and investments are $50.9 million. Total

[45:08] restricted cash is $11.5 million. Total cash overall is $62.4 million highlighted in green

[45:19] on the comparison page. Let me repeat that. Banking has $62.4 million in the bank. So I

[45:28] I ask you, the 62.4 million in the bank sound like a city that is going broke, but numbers require context.

[45:40] So let's compare it to one year ago.

[45:43] Our total cash is down approximately 2.4 million.

[45:47] Unrestricted cash is down approximately 756,000.

[45:51] Restricted and bond related funds are also declining.

[45:55] So while we are not broke, we are trending downward, and trends matter because finances

[46:03] just like gravity do not change on their own.

[46:07] Important limitations.

[46:09] So it must be stated that treasure does not have online access to several key accounts

[46:15] including Bank of America, Lafe, Perma, RPU, and SCPPA.

[46:22] So some figures presented are based on the most recent available statements, not March data,

[46:30] which leads to a simple question, how can full accountability exist without full access?

[46:40] The debt context, as of April 1st, two weeks ago, the total bond debt was 58.8 million.

[46:47] So, again, let's frame this clearly, tonight's report shows $62 million in cash and $58.8 million in debt.

[46:58] We currently have more cash than debt.

[47:03] Again, I ask, is banning broke or is banning a city that must manage its resources more strategically?

[47:14] Seventy indicators March payroll increased 4.4% year over year rising to 1.3 million in March. Employee credit cards spending total 25,000 in March.

[47:28] These are not negative indicators, but they reinforce an important point. Our financial decisions must align with our financial direction.

[47:39] Item number three, earning more interest as an opportunity.

[47:45] I believe City Council is looking at ways to earn more money, so let's turn to our

[47:49] opportunity, because stewardship is not just what we spend, it's about what we earn.

[47:56] Currently significant funds are sitting in non-earning accounts, using current TBL rates

[48:03] which are the safest one month investments, banning could generate approximately $28,000 in interest per month,

[48:14] which is over $337,000 annually.

[48:18] That's not theoretical.

[48:20] That is achievable with coordination and action that raises a critical question.

[48:27] Should public money sit idle or should it work for the public?

[48:32] So let's look ahead for six months looking forward from able to September which is the next six months approximately 10.3 million will be needed for bond obligations.

[48:43] Revenues may decrease with billing changes, accurate forecasting requires cooperation.

[48:51] To better know where we stand financially I respectfully request the finance department provides to me the treasure by the first of each month.

[49:01] six months of projected expenses and six months of projected income.

[49:09] Why? Because financial stability is not achieved by reacting, it's achieved by preparing.

[49:17] In closing, financial reports are not just numbers, they are signals, they are warnings,

[49:24] They are opportunities. They tell us not just where we are, but where we are headed.

[49:32] Banning is not broke, but the direction of our finances and the decisions we make next

[49:40] will determine whether we stay strong or slowly weakened.

[49:46] The question is not whether we have the data. The question is whether we act on it.

[49:52] Thank you. My name is Sue Savage. I am Vanning City Treasurer. Appreciate your time. Thank you.

[50:02] Next will be the city management report, and I'm sure she's on the ball on this. I don't want to put her on the spot, but maybe during your report, you can touch on the public comment utility billing complaints, the two bills per month, late fees, maybe go over the usage and payment history reports. The monthly fee that was brought up, the increase of 54.5% between 2022 and 2025.

[50:30] five and any and such you can offer on the traders report as well with respect to monthly

[50:38] on how spending works. I know in my house, if you do a month, the month

[50:42] you're going to be very confused because I pay my property tax and that's a big month.

[50:46] It doesn't occur every month. It takes time to catch it up. So, it's all yours.

[50:52] Thank you, Mayor. I would like to start with what is on the agenda.

[50:56] Let me just pull it up here real quick.

[51:01] So the first item under my report on the agenda is the introduction to chief Robert Fish.

[51:06] He is our new fire chief.

[51:08] He took over in December for retired fire chief, the wiser.

[51:14] However, Chief's fish could not be here tonight, so we will add him to the next agenda.

[51:19] We really welcome him to the Riverside County and he's been here a long time but

[51:24] but I'm excited to see what he does as our new fire chief.

[51:28] The utility billing update you touched on that.

[51:31] I'm gonna give a brief report and answer some of the questions.

[51:35] And then I'm gonna ask Art to talk about the monthly fee that's included on the billing.

[51:42] So as of April, the city is caught up with the billing.

[51:45] There is one bill per month now.

[51:48] Approximately 120 customers have taken advantage of the cap,

[51:52] Not Riverside Financial Assistance Plan.

[51:55] That happens here monthly in the chambers, and residents are encouraged to come and bring their financial information.

[52:03] It's completely separate from the city.

[52:05] The city does not provide staffing for that.

[52:09] It is strictly through Riverside, and there is sometimes credits to utility bills.

[52:16] I know one person had a $400 credit to their utility bills, so it really does help.

[52:23] Customers can now go online to set up a payment plan from now and through the end of May.

[52:30] They can start the process online, and then staff evaluates it based on any outstanding

[52:36] balances, and then the customer comes in and finalizes the paperwork, and it's added

[52:42] to their account.

[52:47] So on that note, the payment plans, we've entered into agreements with approximately 50 customers.

[52:53] We're hoping for more.

[52:54] It is something that City Council adopted.

[52:57] There's an option between a six-month payment plan or a 12-month payment plan.

[53:02] And it helps those that are behind that can't get caught up by May.

[53:06] They can stretch out their payments.

[53:09] After May, Council has directed staff that normal penalties will resume for non-payments and just to let Council know there's about 6,500 delinquent accounts still.

[53:24] So we are looking at other ways to push that information out to the public.

[53:29] Staff came up with an idea to send out notices, not on the utility bills, but with the utility bills.

[53:36] or in sort to the delinquent customers as a notice that hey, we have this option, come

[53:43] talk to us, let us help you.

[53:46] I'm going to turn it over to Art to talk about the monthly fee.

[53:49] Yeah, thank you for that.

[53:51] So during the process of developing rates, there are a couple things that are looked at.

[53:56] One is, and one of the first things that we do is we identify the utilities revenue needs.

[54:01] So whether it's the wastewater department, the water department, or electric, we have to

[54:06] to identify what the revenue needs.

[54:08] The next step is to determine, you know, how to generate those revenues?

[54:14] Are they going to be solely based on the amount of electricity used or water used?

[54:21] And that is looked at, but there's also a fee component based on a fixed base fee that

[54:27] you are charged, whether or not you use electricity or water.

[54:30] And that is based on the type of service for electric and type of or size of meter for water.

[54:37] And so, City Council in the past has approved a five years worth of water and waste water rate increases.

[54:43] So, Missouler is correct, the base fee has increased over time.

[54:48] Same thing for electric.

[54:49] Recently, City Council recently approved, it costs a service analysis for the electric utility.

[54:56] And again, those base fees are going to increase.

[55:00] Actually, they have increased once. I believe for the residential base fee that is not going to change over time. It's the usage, the usage rates that are going to change over time. But long story short, yes, those base fees are increasing and have increased over the last couple of years.

[55:19] I would also like to, I'll come back to the last item, which is the MOU between the city of Banning and Rivgo regarding inmate drop off procedures. At this time, I would like to congratulate Councilmember Miller.

[55:31] He was recognized this morning at Riverside County Board of Supervisors meeting as the fifth district

[55:39] Volunteer of the year so congratulations council member Miller

[55:47] the

[55:49] Councilmember flin and mayor pro tem barrington mentioned the animal control subcommittee

[55:53] So in that subcommittee when we met we have the first half of the study that was

[55:58] procured back in January

[56:00] Under art's direction we do have the feasibility study in hand that was shared with the two

[56:05] Council members, we are awaiting a final draft of the facility condition assessment.

[56:12] I believe Art had received it, had some comments for the consultant and sent it back.

[56:17] Once we have that in hand, we will call another subcommittee meeting and we will then take

[56:22] that full item to the full council so that the public can hear the condition assessment

[56:28] of the property that we own as well as a feasibility of actually having an animal control center

[56:34] there. So we're looking forward to that. That should be, I believe, around the first

[56:40] meeting in May.

[56:43] The next strategic plan, update 4, Council and the public. Just a reminder, we'll be

[56:48] on April 28th. Those are every 30 days. I focus on initiative 4A, the workout plan to

[56:55] sustainability. And that workshop, just as a reminder, and I again encourage the public

[57:00] to attend May 14th. There will be a Special City Council workshop to discuss the workout plan

[57:07] as it relates to the city's finances, the budget, and the structural deficit that I reported

[57:13] that we have on March 24th. For anybody interested that did miss that update, the video is on the City

[57:22] Council page. I encourage the residents to watch that before the May 14th meeting. There's a bulky item

[57:30] pick up this Saturday, April 18th, from 8 to 1 at Dysard Park.

[57:37] And then one last thing on animal control, I was notified tonight, the city of Beaumont,

[57:42] the city of Kalamasa and the city of Ukaiba.

[57:46] City managers would like to get together with me to talk about animal control and

[57:51] some of the things that have taken place since the last elected subcommittee meeting.

[57:55] And so I will be responding to that email and that will take place the week of May 4th.

[58:02] To respond to the city treasurer's report, first and foremost, there were copies of the city treasurer's report placed on the back table.

[58:10] It's my understanding that there were changes made to that report.

[58:14] And so those reports on the back table were obsolete.

[58:17] We are happy to make copies for the public.

[58:20] First and foremost, transparency is paramount.

[58:23] And so any information that the city treasure would like us to copy for the public, we will certainly do that as to the

[58:32] 62

[58:34] And some change million in the bank. She is correct. However, governmental fund accounting

[58:40] Dictates that that is a cash pool and we have several restricted funds and so to look at the cash pool as

[58:48] That's how much money we have in the bank and that's how much money we can spend

[58:51] And it's not accurate, governmental accounting.

[58:56] Our general fund is what's structurally deficit and the general fund is our main operations

[59:02] like our police department, community development, city managers office, finance department, all

[59:09] of those things that run our general operations comes out of the general fund.

[59:14] The restricted funds cannot subsidize the general fund without appropriate documents and

[59:19] We don't have those, so the bank statements certainly show that there's money in the bank.

[59:25] However, that money is really for cash flow and not programmed into the general fund,

[59:31] which is what I reported on May 24th.

[59:36] Again, there will be another update on April 28th and then our big workshop will be May 14th.

[59:46] Okay, let me get to the final item on my list.

[59:49] Councilmember Flynn requested an update on the MOU between the city of banning and RIVCO regarding inmate drop-off procedures, the chief.

[1:00:00] Deputy of Riverside Sheriff's Office, which his name is Chief Deputy Kohler. He and I had a meeting with our police chief present to discuss that particular MOU, and it was determined at the end of the meeting that that MOU does not exist. It was a gentleman's handshake between the City of Beaumont, the City of Banning and RSO. I've had staff look high and low.

[1:00:29] and he has looked and it just does not exist.

[1:00:33] So there is no formal MOU whereby RSO has been given permission to drop released inmates off in our city.

[1:00:42] Now with that, that begs the question, how do we coordinate this?

[1:00:49] How do we prevent that?

[1:00:50] And so he and I have agreed to look at various options.

[1:00:53] One of the things that Deputy, Chief Deputy Kohler did agree to, he has an uber lift program that he utilizes when inmates are being released outside of bus hours and so the county does pay it's about an average of $70 a ride.

[1:01:12] He has agreed to expand that program even when the buses are running to get the released

[1:01:19] inmates where they need to go outside of the pass area.

[1:01:24] And so he is looking at increasing that program.

[1:01:28] There's certainly more conversations that need to be had.

[1:01:31] And he and I have agreed to keep meeting to resolve this issue.

[1:01:35] I have asked the transit department to look at boardings and alightings at that stop.

[1:01:41] For those of you that are familiar with the Albertsons stop, there are two bus stops, one for banning and one for RTA.

[1:01:50] And the inmates are being placed on the RTA bus using RTA vouchers.

[1:01:55] And so I've asked Transit to give me some stats on actually how many passengers are using the banning bus.

[1:02:05] And then I'll go to RTA and ask them about the number of vouchers that they're picking up.

[1:02:10] It's definitely a conversation that we need to have with Beaumont.

[1:02:14] Beaumont has the transit hub for the entire pass area.

[1:02:18] And in my opinion, having run that transit department for many years, if you go to the

[1:02:23] Wal-Mart hub, you can get anywhere in Southern California.

[1:02:27] The RTA stop in banning will only take you to Marina Valley, or Hemantons and Jack.

[1:02:34] And so I think there's more transportation options if we look at this collectively and

[1:02:40] we partner with our neighboring city and RSO to figure this out.

[1:02:44] So that's my report.

[1:02:45] There is no MOU.

[1:02:47] There was never an MOU, and it was a gentleman's handshake back in 2010.

[1:02:53] I'm guessing.

[1:02:55] That concludes my report.

[1:02:57] Thank you.

[1:03:06] Consent items.

[1:03:07] I'm sorry.

[1:03:08] City attorney.

[1:03:09] I'm sorry, go ahead.

[1:03:11] To the city manager.

[1:03:12] So I, you know, when we talking about the ledger bills,

[1:03:15] I know we did about the payment plan, but people are having hard times paying the money and

[1:03:24] paying, you know, to do that.

[1:03:27] So is there a way we might, as us as a board could change that, because the people are

[1:03:32] having a hard time.

[1:03:33] They bill might be a thousand to tell them to give them 300 and they can't do it, you know

[1:03:37] what I mean?

[1:03:39] Yeah, that would be a policy decision of City Council and we're happy to roll out whatever

[1:03:45] council directs.

[1:03:56] Anybody else? Do you want direction?

[1:04:02] I believe that's what council member Wallace is asking correct.

[1:04:06] Okay well if someone owes a thousand then they can sign up for six months or a year and at six months

[1:04:14] they only need to put 10% down which is a hundred and at 12 months they need to put 15% down which

[1:04:23] should be 150 as a down payment.

[1:04:27] So it's not 300 or 500 or they shouldn't be asking for that much.

[1:04:32] If they are, that's a problem.

[1:04:34] It's $5.10, right?

[1:04:35] It's $5.10, okay.

[1:04:37] So $50, if it's $1,000, then it's going to be $50.

[1:04:44] And if it's 12 months, it's going to be $75.

[1:04:52] dollars. So I don't think that that is burdensome since we're talking about bills that were

[1:05:00] We are not paid for six months, that the electricity was used, and we have been, I believe, very, very generous on our repayment plans. So I would not like to revisit it. But I was in there when somebody's bill was 1,000, 1,200, and they asked for a $300 deposit. This was just last week.

[1:05:27] Well, then that needs to be corrected.

[1:05:29] And there's still a lot of confusion on how we got here, right?

[1:05:33] And I'll defer to art because you've been kind of at the forefront on this.

[1:05:37] Once we got the building back online and the two bills per month.

[1:05:42] There's a lot of confusion online still to this day.

[1:05:45] I know we've talked about this at Nazim, but there's a lot of people who didn't get the information.

[1:05:51] And a lot of confusion when they got two bills a month that they're being double-built, which is not the case.

[1:05:56] There's been confusion on how to read their own meters, and we've tried to address that.

[1:06:01] It's very scary to see on the bill pass due.

[1:06:06] If you don't pay this now, you're going to be subject to late fees and termination fees, which we've all said that's not going to happen until we get caught up.

[1:06:15] So, maybe you can kind of go over some of that and people don't understand, they sell a problem with the $1,000 bill.

[1:06:25] They didn't get the $1,000 bill this month.

[1:06:26] That's been a cumulative over several months.

[1:06:31] And it's still just very, very confusing.

[1:06:34] Before we have our answer, I just want to make sure work.

[1:06:39] For clarification, the deposit has confused customers.

[1:06:44] The deposit is not really a deposit.

[1:06:47] It isn't advanced.

[1:06:49] So if you owe $1,000 and you set up a six month payment plan, that 5% goes towards your bill.

[1:07:00] It is not a deposit that the city's holding, some utility companies want to deposit if the customers

[1:07:07] knew and they don't have an established account.

[1:07:11] So it does go towards the bill, the 5%, and the 10% does go towards the bill.

[1:07:17] So that's important to note I know we've been saying deposit I think because in our heads

[1:07:22] It's a it's a down payment on a payment plan and several but some confuse that as a fee, which is also not a fee

[1:07:28] No, it does it's a it's a it's a it's a good faith effort

[1:07:33] In my opinion that the payment plan will be honored

[1:07:39] Yeah, and just to touch a little bit on on the history here so and specifically on the confusion with the double billing

[1:07:46] So just to remind everybody there was a six-month period when the city did not

[1:07:51] bill. There was no bills that went out. And so when we resume billing in April of

[1:07:57] 25, we knew that if we continued with just one month of billing per month, we would never catch up.

[1:08:04] We'd always be six months behind. And so we got to the point where we were

[1:08:08] issuing two bills per month. So, for example, in one month you would get your,

[1:08:13] or let's say January February bill,

[1:08:16] and then you would get your March April bill

[1:08:20] the following month.

[1:08:21] And so it's not that you would be double billed,

[1:08:23] we were just billing two months

[1:08:25] for the consumption per month in order to catch up.

[1:08:28] And so we are now caught up.

[1:08:31] You are correct, there's a lot of confusion

[1:08:33] with the difference between amount and due,

[1:08:36] and the due now amount.

[1:08:37] The due now amount is what you owe for the previous month

[1:08:41] for consumption and then the amount due is basically the total delinquency if you are delinquent, the total amount due.

[1:08:51] So if somebody says, and we've heard this a lot at the counter, I got a $1,000 bill for last month.

[1:08:56] It's not in $1,000 bill for last month, it's your carryover delinquency amount.

[1:09:02] For that previous month, it could have been a $200 bill and so there is confusion there.

[1:09:08] Well, we are working on for folks that are signing up for a payment plan.

[1:09:13] There will be a box that shows how much you owe related to that payment plan.

[1:09:18] How much you've agreed to pay if whether you're on a six month plan or a 12 month plan.

[1:09:23] And you have to, for those that have a payment plan, you'll have to pay the amount owed

[1:09:28] as agreed upon for that payment plan plus that previous month's consumption.

[1:09:33] So it is difficult for some folks, but that is a way that the folks are going to be caught up at some point.

[1:09:41] Again, it's their decision, it's our customer's decision whether they want to apply for a six month plan or a 12 month plan.

[1:09:49] A lot of people had a problem with the record saliation, right?

[1:09:53] We were getting two bills a month, they paid a bill, but it wasn't showing up because it takes time to process.

[1:09:57] So I know that the front-

[1:10:00] Personnel, we're able to do a payment and usage report, kind of an Excel spreadsheet, to show this is what you're consumed and this is what you paid and these were how they're applied. So if people have some confusion on that, they can also look at that to help. Can I just ask a clarifying question? Councilmember Wallace, are you concerned that people are not going to be able to pay the payment plan and their regular bill?

[1:10:28] Is that the concern? Okay. I just wanted to make sure I understood that.

[1:10:38] Anybody else?

[1:10:42] Okay.

[1:10:45] City Attorney's Report.

[1:10:49] Thank you, Mayor. The City Attorney's Report is based upon the City Council manual procedural

[1:10:57] guidelines and specifically Article 9 regarding decorum and order and the report is as follows.

[1:11:06] The presiding officer shall determine all points of order subject to the right of any member

[1:11:11] to appeal to the majority of the legislative body.

[1:11:14] The legislative body member once recognized

[1:11:17] shall not be interrupted while speaking,

[1:11:19] unless called ordered by the presiding officer,

[1:11:22] unless a point of order is raised

[1:11:23] by another legislative body member,

[1:11:25] or unless if his speaker chooses to yield

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[1:11:31] Members shall accord the utmost courtesy to each other,

[1:11:35] to city or legislative body employees,

[1:11:37] and to the public appearing before the body.

[1:11:41] Now shall we refrain at all times from rude

[1:11:43] and derogatory remarks.

[1:11:45] Reflections as to integrity, abusive comments,

[1:11:49] and statements as to motives and personalities

[1:11:52] which disrupt, disturb or otherwise impede

[1:11:55] the orderly conduct of the body's meeting.

[1:11:59] The members of the body shall always be attentive

[1:12:02] and show respect to those addressing the body,

[1:12:04] provided that nothing shall prevent

[1:12:06] enforcement, the enforcement of rules of decorum.

[1:12:10] Members of the public attending the body meeting shall observe the same rules of order

[1:12:14] and decorum applicable to the body.

[1:12:17] All remarks and questions should be addressed to the presiding officer who is the mayor and

[1:12:23] not to any individual body member, staff member, or other person.

[1:12:27] That concludes the City Attorney's report, Mayor.

[1:12:30] Thank you,

[1:12:34] right consent items item 6.1 through 6.7 had been recommended for approval and will be acted upon simultaneously unless the council member chooses to have an item pulled for separate consideration, are there any such consideration at this time?

[1:12:48] Yeah, I would like to pull 6.3, 6.4 and 6.5.

[1:12:58] Any others?

[1:13:04] Okay, hearing none, we'll

[1:13:11] open up public comment for items 6.1, 6.2,

[1:13:15] 6.6 and 6.7 anyone wishing to make a public comment on those I'm inviting up for public comment

[1:13:23] you'll have five minutes to speak on that item only

[1:13:28] anyone online I

[1:13:33] do have them run really online

[1:13:35] go ahead

[1:13:40] yes thank you council one of the benefits of holding multiple readings of a council

[1:13:47] vote on a project is that it allows for refinements that always enhance a community and make the project

[1:13:53] better with each iteration. I would like to counsel to eliminate the industrial footprint of this

[1:13:59] project as it's incompatible with the surrounding land uses. Absent that, I'm calling attention to

[1:14:06] the City Council's first reading on March 10th, which added attachment 11 and this is a mouthful. 7.3

[1:14:14] J2 Clean DA with Exhibit G-1 Modified Project Conceptual Site Plan.

[1:14:22] Now, under this Revi site plan, industrial buildings totaling 256,753 square feet on 75.8 acres over planning areas 278 are removed.

[1:14:36] It just real land uses color-coded purple and land use descriptions are also

[1:14:43] removed. Planning area two is redescribed as potential future retail area.

[1:14:49] Planning areas seven and eight have no land use descriptions and again no

[1:14:54] color-coded for this revised plan. Okay, let me pause here. Let me pause here for a

[1:14:58] Second, I believe your speech...

[1:15:00] There's nothing on an item that has been pulled for separate consideration. We're talking about 6.1, 6.2, 6.6, 6.7. So that's you to defer that until we opened up 6.3, 6.4, 6.5. That's okay. No worries. No worries. That's okay. Any others? Any others? No one else on Zoom? All right. Public comment is now closed. Entertain a motion to accept consent items 1, 2, 6, and 7. I'll make that motion.

[1:15:30] Thank you.

[1:15:30] I'll second.

[1:15:31] Please vote.

[1:16:01] I did not.

[1:16:04] I'll start again.

[1:16:06] I tend to display.

[1:16:07] Okay.

[1:16:08] Please vote.

[1:16:09] Thank you.

[1:16:17] All right.

[1:16:17] Motion carries 5-0.

[1:16:20] 6.3.

[1:16:23] Councilmember Flemme.

[1:16:24] Okay.

[1:16:25] This is about Public Works Capital Improvement Project Tracking List.

[1:16:28] And I just wanted some update and information on the Sun Lakes Boulevard Extension

[1:16:35] where we're waiting for incidental intake permit from CDFW to begin construction.

[1:16:41] I wanted to know where that is at.

[1:16:44] Yeah, great question.

[1:16:46] So unfortunately, we saw a delay in the issuance of one of the agencies permit the CDFW permit.

[1:16:54] We were expecting to receive that, I believe, last week.

[1:16:58] Nate Smith, our Deputy Director of Public Works and City Engineer, he has a meeting with CDFW coming up to get an update from them to see

[1:17:05] what the delay is and hopefully hopefully we get that permit issued next week.

[1:17:10] So what is the cut off for the funding where we could lose funding if they don't give

[1:17:16] us that permit?

[1:17:17] You know, I don't have that date in front of me.

[1:17:20] We have kept RCTC well informed of the delay and they are being very flexible with us and

[1:17:28] so we've been keeping them in the loop.

[1:17:31] Okay, so they're considering moving that if like let's say we know we're gonna get it in a week or two and the deadline was that week, they would consider moving that.

[1:17:46] That is correct.

[1:17:47] To help that happen.

[1:17:50] And I think the deadline could be June of this year we're supposed to have our first invoice for the project submitted and so we still have a little bit of time there.

[1:18:00] okay thank you and other questions public comment 6.3 no

[1:18:14] comments close public

[1:18:15] comment entertain a motion I'll make a motion to accept 6.3 second as well as

[1:18:25] a recent file we have to vote on it let me see is that okay we still have to do

[1:18:36] We have to still vote on receiving file to approve it.

[1:18:41] It was part of consent so we should do a vote, yeah we should do a vote.

[1:18:46] Please vote.

[1:18:56] Okay, motion passed this 5-0, 6.4, the second reading of adoption of ordinance 16, 18, and 16, 20.

[1:19:05] Yeah, I'm pulling this to give the public an opportunity to speak on this topic again.

[1:19:12] Good

[1:19:28] evening, the zoning items that are on the agenda pertain to the project sunset crossroads.

[1:19:38] And so I want to address that in the large since approval of the rezoning would be tantamount

[1:19:45] to considering the item no further.

[1:19:48] My name is Richard McCart, I'm at 4816 West Glen Abbeyway and I've come to address concerns

[1:19:55] regarding that I am some of these that I've been discussed before but I think some

[1:20:00] Item, need emphasis. In particular, traffic. I don't think we have emphasized enough the problems that are going to occur if we have this project allowed to proceed. There are proposals for having routed for trucks and things of that nature, but there is going to be vehicles crossing over lanes and whatnot at that time. And that's going to back up flow getting onto or off of the freeway.

[1:20:29] and that will impact the entire city.

[1:20:33] So for that reason, I think that particular proposal has

[1:20:39] unacceptable logistic problems and risks.

[1:20:43] I also believe that there are many other

[1:20:50] other problems with the project as well.

[1:20:53] Not the least of which is that proposals that have been on

[1:20:58] on the Internet lately do not reflect items

[1:21:02] that I had thought had been agreed to,

[1:21:04] namely a reduced number of warehouses.

[1:21:07] The items that I see have the same eight

[1:21:10] that were originally there.

[1:21:12] And it makes me wonder whether or not anybody

[1:21:15] is keeping track of the status of what exactly it is

[1:21:19] that were asked to approve.

[1:21:21] Remember that approval of the zoning is approval

[1:21:25] for the whole project.

[1:21:26] Does anyone on the proposal, this is a rhetorical question, know exactly what is updated in the proposal regarding the location of warehouses and the like.

[1:21:38] Also a concern that I think is very legitimate if you look at the country as a whole.

[1:21:44] A lot of these warehouses that sit empty become ice detention centers, and that may not be what anybody thinks is relevant, but believe me it can happen.

[1:21:53] is happening all over the place.

[1:21:56] Has anybody required the developer,

[1:21:59] or is it even possible to require the developer

[1:22:02] to prevent this from happening?

[1:22:05] No.

[1:22:06] I would like also to know why it is that we had no visibility

[1:22:11] of the vote that was at the last meeting

[1:22:16] led to a four to one vote in favor of the project going forward.

[1:22:20] We never had any opportunity to see any of the dialogue

[1:22:23] that went back and forth.

[1:22:24] I'm not even sure of when, where, or how it happened.

[1:22:27] I have concerns about that, and certainly leaves me to wonder

[1:22:32] if things were discussed outside of console.

[1:22:35] And that would be against the law to do that.

[1:22:39] So, for those reasons and many others,

[1:22:42] the logistic problems associated with this project,

[1:22:45] the pollution, the noise pollution, the light pollution,

[1:22:48] the inability to see the sky as clear as we would,

[1:22:52] is incompatibility with neighboring residential areas as well, contrary to city plan.

[1:22:58] I hereby say we take this opportunity provided by this zoning measure to therefore say that we should not go forward with this project.

[1:23:08] Thank you very much.

[1:23:09] Thank you.

[1:23:26] I believe that the city has no directions of how or what goes inside these warehouses.

[1:23:40] As far as the detention centers is the most pathetic thing in the world for children, parents,

[1:23:51] and American-born, Mexican-American, Indigenous people as well.

[1:23:57] The problem with this also goes with, these warehouses are going to be used as data centers.

[1:24:04] It seems to me like these developers have a thumb over all of you that voted for this, why I don't know.

[1:24:11] the city's desperate of money, but that money should not be on the backs of

[1:24:20] residents that are living their last years.

[1:24:24] Their children may live in those homes as well.

[1:24:29] I was really surprised to know that the developer was going against a certain

[1:24:36] person of being elected as a council member and still,

[1:24:43] to me, it seemed like that person

[1:24:44] got slapped twice.

[1:24:48] That says a lot about how desperate the city is into getting money

[1:24:55] that they'll do anything. You're going to be under the thumb of these

[1:24:59] develop.

[1:25:00] Members, and this for what, 30 years? How sad. And then if some of these warehouses become not only detention centers, which is the bottom of the barrel for people that think it's cool, but it's not. But these data centers that are going to come in, they're going to come in and they are going to take a lot of our utilities. They're in danger to the wildlife, they're in danger to human beings.

[1:25:29] And look up about data centers and you'll see how much of a pollution they do cause.

[1:25:38] It's just to shame how I feel that this was your last help we're dying here.

[1:25:48] No, we're not.

[1:25:50] Money was lost, it was mismanaged, and we have to pay out of it again.

[1:25:56] And we shouldn't have to do that.

[1:25:57] Nobody has to.

[1:25:58] So don't put people's lives in the hands of rich people that don't even live here.

[1:26:05] Their families aren't here, you know, put a big plot of a warehouse and

[1:26:11] they'll still make money, whether it's empty or not, the sketchers warehouses, and it's empty.

[1:26:20] It was really sad to know about what happened to that warehouse in Ontario, that could have taken lives.

[1:26:27] so anybody can do that, the people that are dropped off from the jail,

[1:26:35] the

[1:26:35] homeless people can start fires in there. Again, if you think that people's

[1:26:41] lives are not important and their money is, then that says a lot. It shouldn't be

[1:26:50] happening. The money was mismanaged, I believe, and gotten away with it for many

[1:26:55] New years, sure sell the property, sure sell that property, sure sell that property.

[1:27:00] And now we end up with this.

[1:27:03] It's not fair for the residents.

[1:27:05] And these warehouses are not going to provide millions of jobs.

[1:27:10] It's BS, look at the warehouse industry now, it's up and down and up and down and up and down.

[1:27:16] It's not going to happen, those jobs are not going to be guaranteed.

[1:27:21] So they can put the red as a lipstick on this pig, all they want, but it's still a pig, and it's a dangerous one.

[1:27:31] For your lives, your family lives that are here?

[1:27:35] Because just because it was put in this district doesn't mean that it's not going to be put in your district.

[1:27:41] Or by your home, or by your parents, or just as precious your grandchildren.

[1:27:49] So no on this, it's ridiculous, and it's shameful.

[1:27:54] If I was a council member up there from another district, I would have said no too.

[1:28:00] Because I am representing these people's lives.

[1:28:04] People's lives are more important than being mad at a community.

[1:28:10] That's sad, I hear all these horror stories about, back when about suddenly.

[1:28:14] But you know what, I wasn't there, I don't know.

[1:28:18] I just care about people's lives.

[1:28:21] And tell you the truth, I do care about your grandchildren's lives as well.

[1:28:25] Thank you.

[1:28:39] I mean, Shula still haven't changed.

[1:28:43] I was handed this letter right now by the representative of Jerry Phelps

[1:28:52] and I was asked to read it and that's what I'm going to do now.

[1:28:56] This is the letter that has been submitted by Jerry Phelps.

[1:29:01] She is ill and could not make it.

[1:29:06] My name is Jerry Phelps.

[1:29:08] As you know, I submitted my resignation to the City Council at the last meeting.

[1:29:14] When you move forward with your decision on sunset crossroads and the sand has sent into zoning residential

[1:29:23] land swap, a ridiculous CYA move, with no intention of ever happening.

[1:29:30] In my opinion, you bought into the incentives of the developer rather than listen to the

[1:29:36] voice of the people.

[1:29:38] Tonight you are back to reaffirm that decision.

[1:29:42] It's a good thing the developer has deep pockets because they will undoubtedly be lawsuits,

[1:29:48] but you should get your three million.

[1:29:50] and before we move forward let's take a look back for a moment are any of you

[1:29:58] a way of that there are no-

[1:30:00] No minutes of the planning commissions meeting in September 2025, which ran well past midnight,

[1:30:08] denying passage of the Sunset Quarceles Development 3-2. I personally have asked for them

[1:30:16] again and again, but still no minutes. A legal document. How is it that the city council

[1:30:23] Council has in approving this project and throwing away the opinions of their planning

[1:30:30] commission has never even glanced at those minutes.

[1:30:34] Furthermore, the City Council said that the planning commission voted in favour of

[1:30:40] moving the general plan's residential requirement to the San Jacinto College area.

[1:30:46] that is a gross misrepresentation. The Planning Commission unanimously voted 5-0 against

[1:30:55] it. It is clear that the people of Banning do not want warehouses weaving in and out

[1:31:02] our community. What about the area formerly known as Banning Point behind Albertsons? I

[1:31:11] I have asked that this zoning be changed back to commercial and have been told over and

[1:31:16] over that there's nothing we can do about this because it's still in litigation.

[1:31:23] At the same time, I understand that the city has been approached by a developer to put

[1:31:29] two warehouses on this site.

[1:31:33] Councilwoman Berington, what happened to your warehouse moratorium?

[1:31:37] How about now?

[1:31:38] Now, one last time, as the minutes tick away, I implore you to stop the warehouses.

[1:31:46] At night, their lights will cover up our beautiful stars and skies.

[1:31:53] Thank you.

[1:32:08] Honorable Council, thank you so much for the opportunity to speak tonight.

[1:32:11] My name is Jason Baez, and I'm a member of Labor's International Union of North America.

[1:32:16] And we are here to continue our support for the Sun Lakes project.

[1:32:20] and just reiterating there are so many people here I mean literally thousands who

[1:32:26] travel great distances every day just to hold a job and to have that you know

[1:32:33] good feeling of working providing and not be in a welfare recipient and they go

[1:32:39] these lengths just to work but we need work here we need opportunities here and

[1:32:45] And we need something better for our youth.

[1:32:47] We need career opportunities.

[1:32:50] And this project is going to bring in career opportunities, especially stellar careers

[1:32:56] with union construction.

[1:32:58] Also accounting, sales, sales is one of the most high-paying jobs.

[1:33:03] I've actually considered stepping up and going into sales.

[1:33:07] There'll be maintenance jobs, logistics, management, all different types of administration jobs.

[1:33:14] I heard one member of our community mentioned that these warehouse projects, the what goes

[1:33:25] on there, dies out, and they lose customers.

[1:33:29] I have to disagree with that.

[1:33:31] I never used to buy anything online until my daughter showed me the selection, and once

[1:33:37] I seen how awesome the selection was and how much money I can save buying online, I only

[1:33:43] by online now, I basically just go into a store to check the clearance sections.

[1:33:49] So I don't think we're going to have a problem in that area.

[1:33:54] You know, there's 33,000 people who live here.

[1:33:58] And just being respectful, we have about 500 people who are adamantly against this project.

[1:34:05] With good reason, they live in conditions where they're not concerned about all the things

[1:34:11] that we're dealing with outside those walls you know there's a lot of if you were to tell people

[1:34:18] 100 miles away in any direction how much problems we have with gains excessive drug use violence

[1:34:26] they probably wouldn't even believe it and a lot of those problems the roots of those problems are

[1:34:32] based on opportunity idle time always spells trouble this is an opportunity to keep our youth busy

[1:34:40] Our young people working, people working, stepping stones for better things.

[1:34:47] We need this.

[1:34:48] Our city treasurer said we're on a downward course.

[1:34:51] Financially, when things start going downward, they start excelling quickly and something has

[1:34:57] to be done.

[1:34:58] Now, this is the...

[1:35:00] Council to so many things. And it's not just a couple warehouses. This developer has offered

[1:35:05] my God. I've never heard of a developer offering so much. I'm very impressed. So please consider

[1:35:14] all the blessings. And the other 32,500 people who are for this, or maybe some of them aren't

[1:35:24] concerned about it but the majority of them are or that parking lot will be full.

[1:35:30] And when the economic start going downward, guess who gets hit first?

[1:35:35] The city gets hit first.

[1:35:37] My wife works for a city down the way.

[1:35:39] But who gets hit first?

[1:35:41] The city workers.

[1:35:42] That our police force, our fire department, the people we need the very most here.

[1:35:48] So please consider these things.

[1:35:50] Thank you so much.

[1:35:51] Thank you.

[1:36:03] Hello.

[1:36:03] My name is Kathy Aronda.

[1:36:05] Mayor Royce, I know you've been, I've watched the entire time we've been working on your

[1:36:09] computer.

[1:36:10] I don't know what you're doing, but I appreciate that.

[1:36:14] If you could actually listen and take notes after I speak, I would be eternally grateful for it.

[1:36:20] You can make a note I asked you to listen and then take your notes.

[1:36:25] So this is a second reading of Sunset Crossroads, but nothing about this project has changed.

[1:36:31] The same facts are still in front of you.

[1:36:34] This project brings significant air quality degradation,

[1:36:38] increased diesel truck traffic, and impacts that were clearly identified in your own environmental documents.

[1:36:45] Those impacts don't go away just because this is a second reading.

[1:36:51] What also hasn't changed is the lack of trust in how decisions are being made.

[1:36:56] The issues here are not just land use, it's the bigger picture.

[1:36:59] transparency has been inconsistent, communication has been lacking and the public

[1:37:05] continues to feel shut out of the decisions that directly affect their health and

[1:37:09] quality of life. This is not about being anti-growth, it's about responsible

[1:37:16] growth.

[1:37:20] It's about responsible growth in the right location and the right balance and

[1:37:25] and with real accountability.

[1:37:28] A previous project tonight doesn't fix what's broken.

[1:37:33] It reinforces it.

[1:37:35] I'll say that again.

[1:37:36] It doesn't fix it.

[1:37:38] It doesn't fix the problems.

[1:37:39] It just reinforces the problems.

[1:37:42] You still have a choice.

[1:37:43] You can move this forward knowing the impacts

[1:37:45] and the division it has caused.

[1:37:48] Or you can step back and recognize that this is the wrong

[1:37:51] project and the wrong location or a jeeter reconsider.

[1:37:55] Also, not off my, what I prepared here, the Ontario warehouse fire.

[1:38:05] The employees there are basically all third party employees are not employed by Kimberly

[1:38:13] Clark, they're warehouse workers employed by third party entities.

[1:38:19] a lot of these warehouse workers are assigned to different areas.

[1:38:24] It's basically an agency that provides workers.

[1:38:30] And so hopefully those workers at the Ontario warehouse will find other jobs through their employer,

[1:38:38] which is third party who does warehouse workers and effect.

[1:38:43] It's not just the cost, but there are costs to the city.

[1:38:47] there's cost with just repairs of paying for all the overtime, for the police, the fire, other agencies.

[1:38:55] Repairing hose, uniforms, I mean, there's a plethora, which I didn't have written down here for you today.

[1:39:02] But close to 6 million is just going to come from the city of Ontario.

[1:39:07] Their emergency fund or wherever you guys put all your little monies at.

[1:39:13] There are monies that can be recovered so much through California, but that's not immediate.

[1:39:17] You apply for it, and this is definitely not 100% recovery.

[1:39:22] So when you have situations like this, and warehouses like this, there is huge impacts.

[1:39:32] My son, who is a firefighter engineer in a very large city, thought a warehouse fire.

[1:39:38] He received a medal of valor for his efforts at that fire.

[1:39:46] All this is real to me and people have said rude comments about old people in

[1:39:52] some likes or what have you. I think I'm probably younger than at least five of you.

[1:40:00] Excuse me, four of you. But regardless, people have grandchildren here, and I cannot believe they are willing to sacrifice where their grandchildren go to school, playing outside, what they breathe, their children. I think this whole thing is disgraceful. I know it's the wrong project, and I know it's the wrong location. And you used to know that? You used to know that? I don't know. I guess you've got your green glasses on.

[1:40:30] You can't see it now.

[1:40:33] Thank you.

[1:40:46] Good evening, Kathleen Dale.

[1:40:49] I want to just start by saying I believe the action that was taken on March 10th to actually do the first readings of the two ordinances that are on this first item was not correct.

[1:41:04] The motion that you guys passed said you were going to do that introduction following action on the second item.

[1:41:12] You didn't take action on that second item until March 24th.

[1:41:16] So you need to circle back and do the first readings before you adopt the second reading.

[1:41:22] And just to say that what happened on the 10th was just a profound disappointment to me.

[1:41:32] You let money drown out the voices of the people.

[1:41:37] Opposition to this project was overwhelming.

[1:41:41] The documents that are before you are a mess as the comments that were read by Inga on behalf of Jerry.

[1:41:49] There are errors in the documents, internal inconsistencies, misstatements, and they're just very unprofessional.

[1:41:58] I'm going to leave with Sandra an excerpt from the mitigation measures that were adopted for the general plan and again this was brought up to you many times during the hearings, but you do not have the authority to send trucks down sunset past Lincoln unless you amend the general plan and the truck routes plan to do that and there is an adopted mitigation measure on the general plan that says the city shall limit truck routes

[1:42:26] in the city to Ramsey Street, Lincoln Street, Highland Springs, sunset between Ramsey and Lincoln,

[1:42:33] eighth street, between Ramsey and Lincoln, Hargrave between Ramsey and Lincoln, and Halfaway,

[1:42:38] and you're obligated to enforce that mitigation measure.

[1:42:44] Also, the information that's in the documentation is just flat out, inconsistent and not

[1:42:55] not transparent about what's happening in development areas or planning areas 2, 7, and 8.

[1:43:03] And the rosy picture that the developer showed of all that green over on the west side north of Sun Lakes Boulevard.

[1:43:10] There is not anything in the documents that you're getting ready to adopt that says that there's not going to be any building over there and that green space they were showing over there.

[1:43:20] It says you're not going to do trailer storage in area 8, but all the other industrial uses are still allowed there.

[1:43:29] And it also says, something that doesn't make any sense because the provisions regarding planning area 7 use a reference to LI, which is not explained and is not anywhere else in the record.

[1:43:43] There were repeated statements at the decision making hearing about this new internal roadway being used to keep the trucks off of sunset.

[1:43:51] That's just not true.

[1:43:53] An art halfway answered the question by telling you, it's in the development agreement,

[1:43:58] but that new road they're adding from Sun Lakes Boulevard going up to Lincoln.

[1:44:03] It says right in the development agreement, the intent of that road is for cars coming

[1:44:08] from sun lakes to be able to get up to the commercial area without having to go all the way down to sunset.

[1:44:15] That road is not for trucks.

[1:44:18] And Mayor Royce, the things that you said in your closing statement on the 10th were really highly offensive.

[1:44:28] You should go back and watch what you said because you at the beginning said that you found this amusing.

[1:44:35] And then you repeated lots of information about truck emissions that is just not true.

[1:44:44] I'm so disappointed.

[1:44:48] I realize it's probably too much to expect for you guys to do the right thing tonight

[1:44:53] and not to turn down the second reading of these ordinances, but your constituent

[1:45:00] It's from throughout the city. And I'm, that's all five districts have been organizing to take the next step. And using your words, Council Member Barrington, to take this pig of a project to a vote of the people. And I just want to say in closing that Council Member Flynn, I'm just expressing my gratitude to you for your sole voice of reason that you clearly understood

[1:45:29] the record and the issues and were the lone voice of reason in the votes up to this point.

[1:45:36] Thank you.

[1:45:37] Thank you.

[1:45:57] Once again, I'm back here speaking on item 0.61.4 or 614 and I see in there your pre-zoning

[1:46:09] prior to annexing certain territories in this thing here.

[1:46:15] Maybe I don't know what it is, but how can you pre-zone property that's not in the city limits of banning number one, number two, last goal, very likely, may or may not authorize it.

[1:46:34] So look at your conditions there and read it.

[1:46:39] One, two, three, four.

[1:46:41] The fifth line down named all the partial pre-zone prior to annexing certain territories.

[1:46:50] On the number one, if they're so happy about this project, why don't they go ahead and

[1:46:55] annex the project?

[1:46:57] Why isn't the annexing taking place before the zoning is being passed?

[1:47:05] Maybe the laws have changed so much over the years that I don't know what I'm talking about.

[1:47:11] But then the other question I have, Mayor, would be directly to you with the project that's

[1:47:19] located along Wilson Street in high, sunset, you're opposed, you're concerned about the high

[1:47:30] rise and all that, but you're not thinking about the people that live at the sunset and

[1:47:37] throughout there on it, and it puzzles me all that phone. I don't know how to shut it

[1:47:44] off. I'm sorry folks,

[1:47:49] I can't even get it out of my shirt.

[1:47:55] Take it over there and shut

[1:47:56] it off. I don't know how. But anyhow, and then again, your decision is for the citizens

[1:48:06] of banning. The gentleman mentioned 500 people opposed his 13 or 12 people sitting out

[1:48:15] here in Orange for it. Whereas the citizens of banning that is for it, where have they

[1:48:22] been that you got he's got 500 and he's admitted it already that want do not want

[1:48:31] the project. Well 500 is is better than 13 people on it here on it so you're

[1:48:41] going to have to do some hard thinking but again the attorney can tell you

[1:48:47] maybe. How can you an NX property or you can change the zone on the property before

[1:48:57] the NX and sent it to let go? Is there an answer for that? Would you ask the city attorney

[1:49:05] to give you an answer? It's very important because when you vote tonight, if you vote the

[1:49:13] wrong way, you'll have that very problem down the road.

[1:49:17] Well, they may change their mind and they don't want to annex that other property.

[1:49:23] So what happened to the little green light?

[1:49:25] Gee, I'll be able to speak for an hour.

[1:49:31] It's just, did the bulb burn out?

[1:49:35] You're still green.

[1:49:37] Well, it's telling you that you should not vote for this to project because the light is

[1:49:45] loud me to continue speaking on it. So please, when we were all campaigning, we were

[1:49:54] were not before the warehouses on it.

[1:50:00] And when you look at Cherry Valley Boulevard, two big warehouses over there. There are some cars there. I see once one first. I thought these whole in church in there, because I'd see them on Sunday, and it wouldn't see me the other day of the week. And again, we have the one out by the airport is temporarily being used. But the authority is that as soon as the project finished over in Marino Valley,

[1:50:29] those people will be moving out for me back to Merino Valley so there again you'll

[1:50:36] have a large warehouse. But I won't continue speaking even though the light is out on it but keep in

[1:50:47] mind again I've been here so that damn long and 60 years I've had a moving company operating out

[1:50:56] of Benny and I've developed commercial property at all ramsy with all the fast foods and everything.

[1:51:04] They bring in sales tax dollars. What kind of revenue is this project going to bring in and

[1:51:12] how many years down the road is it going to bring it take to get any money from it? Yeah, they made

[1:51:18] me put up $2 million or $3 million today, but that's also, that's not a gift.

[1:51:26] That is labeled to be used on other categories down the road, so you're not getting something

[1:51:34] for nothing.

[1:51:35] Thank you.

[1:51:36] That's your time.

[1:51:37] Your lights now out.

[1:51:38] I'm sorry.

[1:51:38] The light is now officially out.

[1:51:40] That is your five minutes.

[1:51:41] Thank you.

[1:51:41] The light's out.

[1:51:42] I appreciate you.

[1:51:43] Thank you.

[1:52:00] Good evening, Council.

[1:52:02] My name is Tara Hegey and I started a petition against this project back in

[1:52:09] January when I became aware of it instantly. I found out about it and I started

[1:52:15] the petition. This is not something we want or we need here and the

[1:52:22] planning city residents have stated that over and over and over. I think one of

[1:52:28] things that is most, what's the right word, disheartening is a transparency on this project.

[1:52:41] We were standing here today still with not a full picture of what this project is as

[1:52:48] the developer came to the last meeting with changes.

[1:52:52] We have no documentation from the as a community of what this project is so that tells me either there's information that's not being given to the community or you guys are hiding it.

[1:53:09] I don't know which I'm not accusing anyone but transparency is extremely important and matters like this.

[1:53:17] I started this petition online.

[1:53:23] I have now over 800 signatures of people against this.

[1:53:29] There are many, many, many more citizens of banning that are against this project.

[1:53:35] We do not need warehouses.

[1:53:38] We do not need the trucks.

[1:53:39] We do not need the pollution.

[1:53:41] We do not need to reduce our quality of life.

[1:53:44] I'm sorry, but you guys aren't going to be here in 30 years, probably.

[1:53:49] everybody else will be.

[1:53:53] I mean, we have to deal with the consequences of this decision.

[1:54:00] I am asking you clearly and urgently to reconsider your approval of the Sunset Crossroads project.

[1:54:09] The decision we have, the decision will have immediate and lasting consequences for the

[1:54:15] residents of this community. It places a large-scale industrial complex directly next to

[1:54:22] homes, fundamentally changing the environment in which people live, sleep, and raise their

[1:54:29] families. The impacts are not speculative, they are known. Clearly stated in environmental

[1:54:39] This project will bring continuous semi-traffic at a scale of dozens per hour operating day and night.

[1:54:50] It will increase air pollution in residential areas exposing families, children, seniors to declining air quality.

[1:54:58] It will enter

[1:55:00] These are just sustained noise levels that disrupt daily life and erode the sense of peace that residents currently have. It will place additional strain on local roads and infrastructure that were never designed to support this level of industrial use. These are direct impacts to health, safety, and quality of life. This is not simply a development decision. It is a decision about who and what we are prioritizing.

[1:55:29] and right now, it does not reflect a prioritization of the people who live here.

[1:55:36] Equally concerning is the process that led us here. A decision of this

[1:55:40] magnitude should be grounded in clear, transparent, and trusted community

[1:55:47] engagement. Many residents do not feel that that standard was met. When people feel

[1:55:54] unheard in decisions that directly affect their lives, it creates a deep and

[1:55:58] lasting loss of trust in local leadership.

[1:56:06] You have the authority to revisit this right now.

[1:56:11] Reconciliation is not about reversing course without reason.

[1:56:15] It is about recognizing when the full weight of a decision has not been adequately accounted

[1:56:21] for and having the courage to pause and correct it.

[1:56:26] I urge you to act in the best interest of this community, not just in the short term, but

[1:56:32] for the long term health safety and livability of the people you serve here in banning.

[1:56:40] Do not adopt items 6.4 and 5.

[1:56:47] I also want to state that I reviewed the records of public comments that were submitted to

[1:56:54] the city and my comments were not included.

[1:56:57] So that means there is also a lack of documentation of what the city has received from residents.

[1:57:08] Again, do not adopt item 6.4 and 6.5.

[1:57:12] Thank you.

[1:57:13] Thank you.

[1:57:31] Harry Sullivan.

[1:57:35] I've been just observing this whole thing from the get-go and all that.

[1:57:38] And to be honest with you, I was against it in the beginning anyways.

[1:57:43] I just don't think the city has the road infrastructure to handle such a development like this.

[1:57:51] When you get into warehouses of this size and the amount of truck traffic and so forth,

[1:57:59] you need designated roads just for the truck traffic to access and

[1:58:03] address from those areas like that, you don't need to mix it up with the city traffic and all that type stuff.

[1:58:11] And you have a situation where you're looking at sunset to be where they come on and off the freeway.

[1:58:21] And that's where the truck traffic is going to come to and from is on the freeway.

[1:58:26] And you have a situation there where you've got stoplights on both sides of the freeway.

[1:58:31] It's not like eight street where you don't have the stoplights there because eight street is is actually 243

[1:58:39] Highway 243 and and so forth, but when you have stoplights on both sides of the freeway

[1:58:46] It really causes an issue and these trucks are like

[1:58:51] 70 80 feet long. They're like three car links and in that I mean it would just be a just gold nightmare

[1:58:59] here, for this truck traffic to come and go from that place like that.

[1:59:06] And I think looking at it as an observer, when all those changes were made and it was

[1:59:15] brought to the council and so forth.

[1:59:17] And it was requested by I think a very legitimate planning commission that it should have went

[1:59:23] back to the planning commission again.

[1:59:25] But unfortunately now you lost two really good members off the Planning Commission and so

[1:59:31] Here you know here you're we're almost like in a divorce between two part two couples

[1:59:39] And so and it's really unfortunate because we work so hard

[1:59:44] A lot of us to move the city forward and get along and

[1:59:48] In cooperate with each other and I hate to see this divide started. It's it's really sad

[1:59:56] And so the thing is, you know, realistically, it's a

[2:00:00] I mean, there's no way I could vote for it if I was on the council. And I think it could be modified. The developer knew that the property was residential when they bought it. But I know developers are very good at manipulating cities. They're very good at manipulating city staff and all that with these grandiosis things that are going to bring all this great revenue. I mean, I've seen these windbags come to banning for years because I've lived here all my life.

[2:00:28] And they come here, they got all these great ideas and you never see it, you know, it's a lot of talk and all that.

[2:00:37] But you know, the thing is, once the zone is changed, then it's going to, you know, there would never be any residential there, which would be the positive thing for banning.

[2:00:48] Now, you could modify this to where you get your commercial up in your northwest corner

[2:00:54] of the, or actually, on strike that northeast corner of it.

[2:00:59] You know, you could have some commercial in there, but then you could have your residential

[2:01:02] in there and all that.

[2:01:04] And the thing is, you know, this sunset crossroads has been such a big deal to relieve the

[2:01:10] traffic on Highland Springs.

[2:01:12] And now you're going to make it a big mess is Highland Springs.

[2:01:15] You're not going to accomplish anything with respect to the amount of traffic flow that were it ease up the traffic flow, you know?

[2:01:23] So it's just a really bad idea.

[2:01:25] I would suggest that you just, you know, cancel this and then have them come back and they can do a modification to where, you know,

[2:01:35] they could put some commercial in there like I say in the northeast corner would be, you know, that would be compatible with the city.

[2:01:43] But right now this project just isn't compatible with the city's infrastructure and I don't think it's going to the money it makes isn't going to change anything governments never have enough money you'll never have enough money the more they more you bring in the more they spend and and so you know it's you have to learn how to

[2:02:03] to manage the money you have with your expenses and all that.

[2:02:08] So thank you for listening to me.

[2:02:10] Thank you.

[2:02:19] I think we have somebody online for this topic. Go ahead.

[2:02:26] I have Laura in line, Decker.

[2:02:29] Yes.

[2:02:30] Hello mayor and council.

[2:02:34] I simply wanted to say I was working here and I didn't realize this was the subject.

[2:02:39] and I'm glad it came back and everyone is saying what they have to say about the

[2:02:46] project. Simply I find it surprising only in the fact that the citizens here in

[2:02:55] banning were not happy in the growth that Beaumont had. This particular project is

[2:03:04] growth for the city of Banning. This project I believe is nearly five years of adjustments

[2:03:12] that this developer has progressed to meet questions and changes that the councils previous

[2:03:22] to yours have also wanted. I believe that this is a project that we do need to begin progress

[2:03:33] for us for that we need here in the city of Bannon.

[2:03:37] Though it is not ideal to many that are voicing their opinions here,

[2:03:43] it is the growth that we do need here for the future of Bannon.

[2:03:49] And in the years that I have lived here,

[2:03:52] no one has wanted anything in the areas that they have lived in.

[2:03:57] No one has wanted it in their own backyards so I believe this is a project that we need

[2:04:07] to go forward and to be in the growth that we do need here in the city of Vanny.

[2:04:14] Even though many do not want it and do not want it in their own backyards, thank you,

[2:04:19] Council.

[2:04:20] Thank you.

[2:04:25] Any others online?

[2:04:27] No, I don't.

[2:04:37] Good evening mayor council members and staff my name is Omar Covey and I'm a representative for the Carpenters Union

[2:04:46] You know one of my job responsibilities is I I meet with a lot of city governments

[2:04:51] I handle some of the governmental affairs for the Carpenters and the Ellen Empire and one of the typical

[2:04:57] same trends that I've seen in different cities and what I've

[2:05:00] I learned in the last few years that if the cities don't continue to grow, they die, or they will away. That's just the truth. That's the nature of growth. We know that more, more things are getting unaffordable, unfortunately, and that includes cities. And it's far and few between when you do get a developer, like the one before you for today's project that's willing to,

[2:05:29] to not only make numerous adjustments to the project for the council and the city's benefit,

[2:05:40] but to also provide the community benefits that far exceed any other project that I've seen in the area.

[2:05:46] So, in short, the deal that banning is getting is a good deal.

[2:05:53] Second, you wonder, people say, well, why can't you,

[2:05:58] New union workers go, just go build houses, build everything else.

[2:06:02] I wish the residential developers like the ones people praise,

[2:06:07] KB Homes, Taylor, Morrison paid union wages, but they don't.

[2:06:11] They actually, half of those jobs are crime scenes where we can't, they pay cash,

[2:06:18] and they classify workers as independent contractors so they don't have to pay medical or even workers cop.

[2:06:26] That's unfortunate.

[2:06:27] But we're not going to sit here and cry about that sector.

[2:06:29] We are going to talk about the sector that does pay a good living wage, and

[2:06:33] this project in particular is one of them.

[2:06:36] So when we have over $100 billion of green energy that has been installed by this current administration that's constantly attacking our unions, and we now have residents and environmental groups that continue to attack our projects including data centers, but this is not a data center.

[2:06:57] Where do we go from here?

[2:06:59] How do we continue to play our mortgages?

[2:07:01] How do we continue to make sure that we have a living wage for our families?

[2:07:07] We're not asking for anything unjust.

[2:07:10] This is a good project.

[2:07:13] I think it's in the right location.

[2:07:15] I think the community benefits our way, the negative aspects of it.

[2:07:22] So, that is the reason, not to mention, we've got to provide job opportunities for the youth.

[2:07:28] We cannot continue to ignore the graduates of batting high school and

[2:07:35] the surrounding schools and say, hey, tough luck, figure it out somewhere else.

[2:07:40] Go get a good living wage out in LA or leave the city, because that's exactly what's going to happen.

[2:07:46] And so there is opportunities on this project in particular to create a pipeline.

[2:07:53] We have a program in several high schools in the area,

[2:07:58] ones in Beaumont High School in particular.

[2:08:01] It's called Career Connections, where we do have a pipeline for high school graduates that want to be in the construction industry that could work on local projects, this being one of them.

[2:08:09] So with that being said, I want you to consider all that.

[2:08:12] And I do commend on the 4-1 vote on March 10th, and I commend the courage for you to vote that way, and let's continue to vote that same way.

[2:08:23] Thank you.

[2:08:24] Thank you.

[2:08:25] of

[2:08:32] evening Councilman Mayor and managers.

[2:08:38] Yeah, my name is Robert Lugan.

[2:08:39] I'm with local 416 ironworkers.

[2:08:41] I've been a loyal member to them for 44 years.

[2:08:46] And I am a retiree.

[2:08:48] And I am came from the Marine Corps.

[2:08:52] And that's why they gave me the nickname Mad Dog because I bring

[2:08:55] that mentality to our union for nine years.

[2:08:58] I was Sergeant of Arms, E-Board, and I retire.

[2:09:01] but also was an instructor for two years for our apprenticeship program.

[2:09:06] So, and I am a delegate with the IE Labor Council.

[2:09:10] So, I either sit and rub shoulders with the electricians, the teamsters, the operating engineers, so that we all know where we're coming from to help push this education of training careers for these high schoolers that may not have the finances to go get college degrees.

[2:09:31] So we do, I did have two classes with MC3 program, multi-crafts education, and this is all billing trades.

[2:09:40] So a project like this will open up to the young ones in banning high school and

[2:09:46] other high school surrounding because what happened to metal shop, what happened to wood shop?

[2:09:51] They took it all out because they didn't think it was necessary, but now they're seeing the urgency of the young ones that coming out.

[2:09:59] Thank you for your time.

[2:10:00] To get into a career trade. And my brothers of the ironworkers, the carpenters, the labors that we all have come from families that also that taught us to trade. And it's not just for us, but also for the military personnel. And we have an organization call helmets to hard hats. And so when they come back from Afghanistan, Kuwait, they come to learn a career, not a job.

[2:10:29] working at Walmart, greeting people.

[2:10:32] That's not the way of life.

[2:10:34] And so this kind of project will help them to benefit

[2:10:38] and purchasing a house, hopefully in banning

[2:10:41] or Beaumont or surrounding areas

[2:10:44] because this is a lovely town

[2:10:46] and this is a town that is growing

[2:10:49] and we see that in the future.

[2:10:51] So I appreciate you both yes

[2:10:52] and continue to strengthen this.

[2:10:55] Thank you.

[2:11:10] good evening everyone. I'm a local resident I live in Banning I'm actually in

[2:11:15] Sun Lakes and Banning has been good to me. I actually have fun in Banning. I am

[2:11:22] a member of Ironbrookers Local 433 and I do travel right now about 40 miles

[2:11:28] to go to work. Let me be honest with you. I'm just gonna speak from the heart so here

[2:11:34] goes.

[2:11:36] Right now I'm at the Coca-Cola plant in Rancho

[2:11:39] Cuicamanga. About 40 of us are currently iron workers building the Coca-Cola plant

[2:11:48] in Rancho Cuicamanga. We grub hub, we order stuff from the local community, we spend money

[2:11:53] there. If we go ahead and build this stuff, we're going to spend money in banning. I don't

[2:12:00] know about you guys, but the joint across the street has great zucchini fries and stuff

[2:12:05] I go to the Akimi Contina to play billiards there and spend money there and you know it's a great community let's build some more on it that's all I can tell you I mean if there's going to be commercial and a big store or something there why not that's

[2:12:29] all I got to say thank you. Thank you.

[2:12:44] Good evening, City Council, City of Planning, and our developers.

[2:12:57] I just want to say that I have lived here for over 15 years,

[2:13:04] and I have lived in some lakes that many years.

[2:13:08] I think that's a beautiful community.

[2:13:12] Some people don't like us for whatever reason that may be,

[2:13:15] and that is really sad because new generations come just as I came and somebody else

[2:13:25] was had left for whatever reasons. I have built a lot of friends. I have been a volunteer

[2:13:35] and everything that I am possibly able to volunteer and I am not very happy with this project.

[2:13:48] I would urge you, please, please vote no.

[2:13:54] Please revise this project.

[2:13:59] One thing we do not need is more warehouses.

[2:14:03] We need to have a vision for this city, please, a vision.

[2:14:10] I cannot even go and buy a hotdog, for instance, do we have the hat here?

[2:14:21] No, the hat sells great hotdogs and great hamburgers.

[2:14:27] Can we go and buy a ham to the honey-peck ham?

[2:14:32] We have to go to San Bernardino.

[2:14:34] Can we go to Macy's and buy clothes besides the other stores that we have?

[2:14:41] No.

[2:14:42] Do I have to go to Redlands for everything?

[2:14:45] Do we have to go to the doctors there?

[2:14:47] Do we have to go shopping there?

[2:14:49] And as I hear that's money leaking out of this beautiful city, please.

[2:15:01] Please vote no to the project of warehouses. Warhouses are no benefit to us against the

[2:15:12] create jobs, but we also need other buildings. And that those buildings can be built by this

[2:15:18] gentleman here. So please revise this project. Thank you.

[2:15:26] Thank you.

[2:15:28] Anyone

[2:15:34] else online?

[2:15:39] No, no.

[2:15:51] Lekia, would you, president of the Bayonet Chamber of Commerce, I'm sitting here and I'm just

[2:15:56] kind of in between.

[2:15:58] What I'm just trying to say, that listening to both opinions, everyone is correct, right?

[2:16:07] But it's kind of, yeah.

[2:16:09] So long story short, yes, we don't need your houses, yes, we don't need pollution, but

[2:16:15] that hey, we need money, you know what I mean?

[2:16:19] So for example, we are not in a situation where you see it,

[2:16:22] you're sitting on a two, three million dollars

[2:16:24] and you decide, okay, should they build pool

[2:16:27] or maybe some other addons to your house.

[2:16:32] You know, we don't have that luxury.

[2:16:35] What I'm trying to say that city needs money,

[2:16:39] we need immediate things, what city needs to address

[2:16:42] to conduct regularly business.

[2:16:44] and you need money for that. Where does money coming from?

[2:16:50] I understand this is human nature and human nature is just, you know,

[2:16:55] majority of people afraid of many things and it's not a natural thing.

[2:17:00] But at the same time, you know, there is saying fortune favors the brave.

[2:17:06] So I think we need kind of here to that.

[2:17:10] We need kind of decide about it.

[2:17:12] But the reason why I'm seeing that before people start hitting on me, that what I'm trying

[2:17:21] to say is so everyone approach it like it's a cut and dry black and white and it's not.

[2:17:29] Let's start with a very simple thing.

[2:17:32] We have large businesses, let's say large individuals who own large swath of real estate

[2:17:38] here in Bening.

[2:17:40] Okay, those people bought it, they paid by me and they have all the right to use how they want to do.

[2:17:49] You know, you cannot force them to do this and that, if we will start kind of restricting them overall, I understand you can do it.

[2:18:00] But at the same time, what you do, you take those large swath of real estate out of the rotation market.

[2:18:07] So if you had, you know, certain acreage in the city which could you bargain and bring certain businesses here,

[2:18:14] now you have a limited amount to deal with to get what you want.

[2:18:19] And you have to kind of bear it in mind.

[2:18:26] So, again, people or companies who bought that real estate, they have full right to develop it how it wanted.

[2:18:33] it. Maybe system is flawed, you know, when you sell something to someone, you need just

[2:18:39] kind of ask them, so what do you intend to do with that? You know, but no one is asking,

[2:18:45] and they're already in possession, and they have all right. And after that, become stag of

[2:18:50] war. You know, okay, we don't want you here. People who don't want them usually don't pay

[2:18:56] money for that, you know what I mean? But I understand the citizen's concerns that they want

[2:19:01] on kind of advanced forward.

[2:19:03] How do you advance forward when you don't have means for that?

[2:19:08] And okay, one of the arguments what I heard

[2:19:12] was the developer takes advantage of the city

[2:19:18] of city of financial situation.

[2:19:21] Hey, look back.

[2:19:24] He held developer actually hostage for four or five years.

[2:19:29] Now a developer climbing walls and goes to, okay, I'll do this concession, I'll do this concession.

[2:19:37] And, you know, we're at the point where we're asking, you know, who's taking advantage of who?

[2:19:44] You know, so look, if you expect like a straight answer from me, you know, yes, no, you know,

[2:19:51] I can give it to you right now, but I'm just describing situation wherein, you know.

[2:19:57] If you want to make

[2:20:00] The city going somewhere, you have to have funds. And since we are in this situation, let's use it. Use it to the best of, you know, extend of it. So this is what I wanted to do. Last one, hey, it's business. Business, it's not like Walmart. You come there, you know, you need gallon of milk, 350, get out. It's business. It's all this negotiation.

[2:20:28] So, you know, it should be compromised in both sides.

[2:20:33] That's it.

[2:20:34] Thank you.

[2:20:45] Last call, anyone online?

[2:20:55] Thank you.

[2:20:58] Last call.

[2:21:02] All right.

[2:21:02] Public comment is closed.

[2:21:03] 19, 29 hours.

[2:21:08] I do have a question for staff.

[2:21:13] A few questions.

[2:21:23] I have a question.

[2:21:25] Good.

[2:21:27] Can either art or live?

[2:21:30] I just kind of explained since it was a citizen said that it doesn't look right, but explain how that, the new, I seen it.

[2:21:44] So can you explain what the benefit it'll help for banning, because I say it all the time and nobody listens.

[2:21:53] Let

[2:22:04] us find the slide. Councilmember Wallace.

[2:22:07] I kind of on what she was talking about. I heard a couple comments. One was nothing has changed and I heard something that there were changes but nobody knew about them. I'm not aware of any changes.

[2:22:18] And there is also an issue with the minutes from the planning commission not being posted. Can we look into that? I'd like to see that.

[2:22:28] And Ms. Del brought up on those plans, one of the legends had the initials I think was

[2:22:36] LI, which didn't have an explanation and I was kind of curious what that was referring

[2:22:40] to.

[2:22:46] And then another one brought up that her comment or her comments were not posted on the

[2:22:53] last meeting during the public hearing, they were included, so we can look into that.

[2:23:04] I'm most curious as to what changes were made or not made since the last hearing.

[2:23:14] Yeah, I can't think of any changes.

[2:23:17] Obviously, the site plan, the site plan changed prior to the last meeting.

[2:23:22] And there was a presentation that the developer gave that identified that there was a storage parking area that was eliminated.

[2:23:31] There was a small warehouse that was eliminated, but since the previous meeting there have been no additional changes.

[2:23:39] Okay.

[2:23:40] Thank you.

[2:23:41] Mark Staples planning manager for the city.

[2:23:44] Please excuse my voice.

[2:23:47] I would advise folks if they want to know what changes occurred on the March 10th, a generalized item for this project.

[2:23:54] An attachment that's kind of in the middle of the list is the red line version of the development agreement.

[2:24:00] or you can see the strike-throughs of what was changed and it was a reduction of both the commercial square footage and the industrial square footage both were reduced but still promising the hundred thousand square foot big box retailer that they have until right now to be the first project on the commercial site but seeing the changes are there and then later on in the development agreement, the updated site plan.

[2:24:29] general concept site plan is attachment. If I remember right, G1, it's later on in the document page 70 something shows the updated site plan with the truck yard removed and the northeaster most building removed, which results in that reduced industrial square footage.

[2:24:49] Yes, so I saw that but there was no changes after that right correct

[2:24:55] So the development agreement that is there the clean version is what will

[2:25:00] We'll be signed and adopted, which is part of this ordinance that's before you tonight. And the other ordinance before you is the zone change. Thank you. I just got one more question. And can you let people know why it's not a good place for residential. Can you let, you know, let the citizens know because they think that's a good place. Can you explain? It doesn't bring revenue. That's not going to help us pay these streets and stuff.

[2:25:28] I won't speculate too much as it's not agendized, but the land had been under a previous

[2:25:36] specific plan, the five-bridge specific plan, for mostly residential and I don't believe

[2:25:42] any follow-up applications were ever submitted to the city for any portion of that, including

[2:25:47] the commercial section.

[2:25:50] Council Member Flynn.

[2:25:53] Okay, so since we're asking questions here, not really discussion at this point.

[2:26:00] Okay, so some of the buildings have been technically removed, but the Environmental

[2:26:12] Impact Report and the CEQA has approved the full 5.5 million of industrial.

[2:26:19] So my understanding specific plan still has those warehouses there, it's not in compliance

[2:26:29] with the development agreement.

[2:26:32] And so on paper they're removed, but they're not really removed because at any time without

[2:26:38] council approval in the future, only administrative approval, those warehouses can be put back and

[2:26:47] bill. Correct? I would argue against that that we would follow the specifics in the development

[2:26:54] agreement. Okay but the specific plan should match should match and it does not now and so this

[2:26:59] is what I have a problem where there's inconsistencies and there's problems and there's things that are

[2:27:03] left out and it's not ironclad and it needs to be and so that is one issue because you're basically

[2:27:11] allowing 5.5 million square feet because that was what was approved by the

[2:27:17] sequel and the IR and I know this from batting point you can remove stuff but

[2:27:22] it was the total was removed and they can build up to that without approval coming

[2:27:27] back to the city council it says in there that only needs administrative approval

[2:27:32] which means staff so I think that needs to be addressed also the question about

[2:27:39] There are no sunset, it's not a truck route.

[2:27:46] It has houses along it within a thousand feet.

[2:27:51] And the only part that's truck route is from sunset to Lincoln.

[2:28:00] And beyond that, south of that, it is not a truck route.

[2:28:02] So how is that going to be addressed?

[2:28:06] I will have to defer to public works.

[2:28:07] So I believe that that traffic would be considered local serving commercial, so it's not a truck route, you're correct, south of Lincoln Street, but that in my understanding, it would be considered local, local serving.

[2:28:24] As you follow up on that, because Ms. Del brought up a great point, our current plan with respect to truck route, we can send trucks down some of those streets that are listed without modifying the other plan.

[2:28:41] When you say those streets, Mayor Royce, what streets exactly are you talking about?

[2:28:46] I'm going to refer to, I'm going to botch this, as she was freeing to Lincoln, what, yeah, I'd have to bring her back up.

[2:29:00] She listed all the intersections, all the streets that are currently not truck routes that are going to have to be accessed for this project, not for the purpose of delivery, but every day use.

[2:29:16] So, one of the things to keep in mind, there is the distinction between truck routes and then,

[2:29:22] you know, trucks that are allowed to locally access businesses. So, truck routes once designated

[2:29:26] do end up kind of in a statewide GIS database. Trucking companies will look at that.

[2:29:31] And as they're moving through jurisdictions, those are roadways that they are able to take.

[2:29:36] So, right now, our truck route map, you know, as was indicated on there is Ramsey,

[2:29:40] it's Lincoln, it's the certain streets between those two.

[2:29:44] So as trucking companies and good movements are looking at our truck route network, they're

[2:29:50] looking to see what is available for them to move through the jurisdiction.

[2:29:54] Separate from that, trucks are allowed to utilize roadways that serve local businesses.

[2:30:00] So, you know, some likes Boulevard is not a truck route, but a truck that's going to Albertsons is able to utilize that as is the destination that is the business that they are going to. So a truck that is coming to or from any particular and any particular business within the city would be allowed to utilize the city street unless there is some physical restriction that would stop them from doing so, you know, power lines, traffic signals, signage, so on and so forth.

[2:30:27] So the current truck route Ramsey the Lincoln Highland Springs sunset between Ramsey and Lincoln 8th Street between Ramsey and Lincoln

[2:30:35] Hargray between Ramsey and Lincoln and Hathaway

[2:30:39] Yes, they're not technically truck routes, but

[2:30:41] As you just mentioned they would be utilized for the purpose of local delivery or

[2:30:46] Something like that. Yeah for good movement. So you know if you have an oversized truck for example

[2:30:51] We have something that's over height the can't get underneath the bridge or yeah, they would be able to utilize those routes

[2:30:56] So they're available on statewide databases for that.

[2:31:00] Sorry.

[2:31:00] Okay.

[2:31:01] And also, I know, I think the meaning of the 24th, I mean, my big concern is having,

[2:31:11] and it's always been my big concern, is trucks going west on Sunlake's full of art,

[2:31:19] through a residential community to Island Springs and vice versa.

[2:31:23] And that was to be mitigated by this, I don't even know.

[2:31:30] I don't think they call it a headache bar.

[2:31:31] A headache bar, okay.

[2:31:33] And I think that I would like a lot more clarification on that and

[2:31:38] how that's going to work and if that's been used in other places.

[2:31:41] And to me, it seems like, as soon as a truck goes through there and

[2:31:47] tears the thing down, it'll be like, oh well, we tried.

[2:31:50] We can't really put that back up and then they'll just be able to go through.

[2:31:56] So I don't I don't think there's been enough clarification on that at least for me.

[2:32:00] I don't know about anyone else, but I don't even remember seeing that in there.

[2:32:04] I know it was presented, but I don't know where that is in the agreement.

[2:32:09] Where that has been placed in there.

[2:32:11] It was brought up by the developer and shown by the developer, but

[2:32:15] But I don't see it actually put into writing into the project and clearly having detail on what that is.

[2:32:25] So that was an offer that was made by the developer as a potential solution.

[2:32:29] We would need to continue to evaluate that from a public work standpoint to ensure that if something along those lines were to be implemented,

[2:32:37] that it's not going to negatively impact fire response or other key city functions that we need in there.

[2:32:44] It's something that we will need to address as we do move through final engineering as to whether or not that is the best solution.

[2:32:50] Or if there are alternative designs that they could implement within the site that would make it very difficult for trucks leaving to head west where they would cross through the Sunlinks community out to Highlands Springs.

[2:33:03] So basically it's not guaranteed and it's very fluid.

[2:33:07] No, it's section 3.14.3 in the development agreement.

[2:33:13] And what does it say?

[2:33:14] On page 29, construction of a truck barrier system on

[2:33:21] Sunlinks Boulevard at the western

[2:33:24] boundary of the property to limit heavy truck access west of the property along Sunlinks

[2:33:32] Boulevard.

[2:33:33] This truck barrier system is an addition to other project improvements designed to prohibit heavy truck access west of the property along Sunlinks Boulevard. So that's in the DA.

[2:33:47] Okay, thank you.

[2:33:56] We have to go to 6.5 now.

[2:33:59] We're still discussing.

[2:34:01] I can make a motion.

[2:34:02] We'll still get off 6.5.

[2:34:05] We're still discussing, I want to give it an opportunity.

[2:34:08] Do you have any other clarifying questions?

[2:34:14] No.

[2:34:15] I thought it was too separate.

[2:34:17] 6.4 is separate from 6.5, so 6.4 cover is 16.18 and 16.20.

[2:34:25] So if we're finished with discussion, we can entertain a motion on 6.4.

[2:34:31] I can make a motion.

[2:34:33] So I make a motion to conduct second reading and adoption of ordinance number 1618 and 1620 approving an amendment to the city of bad and official zoning maven improving.

[2:34:45] Zone change number 20 3050 to rezoning certain territories in the city located south of it and in the Union Pacific Railroad and west of the sunset avenue assessors parcel numbers APN.

[2:35:00] This is 537-110-003-005-5737-110-011-014 and pre-zoning prior to an annexation. Certain territories in the spear of the influence of the city located south of the northern border of Western Avenue and the west of sunset Avenue. APN 537-120-013537.

[2:35:29] 7-120-025-537-120-028 through----036, an improvement in development agreement by and between the city of batting and N.P., batting industrial LLC and Missouri Limited Liability Corporation.

[2:35:56] I would like to make a motion also, can I do that?

[2:36:05] A second motion?

[2:36:07] Before the first one has a motion and a second,

[2:36:10] and now I would like to make that motion.

[2:36:14] A second motion can't be made.

[2:36:16] So I would like to make a motion that we continue or table this

[2:36:23] ordinance until we have the answers to the questions that have been brought up here today and that everything is addressed, and we know that this is done properly because I don't believe at this time it has been done properly or too many loose and so I would like to make a motion to continue or table ordinance until we get answers to the questions that were brought up and the concerns that were brought up today.

[2:36:50] No second,

[2:36:53] no

[2:36:57] second, that motion fails, please let's vote on the first one.

[2:37:20] Emotion carries 4-1, 6.5,

[2:37:27] yeah let's take a quick 15 minute break, let's resume at 8 o'clock, 20 on air.

[3:01:31] All right, we're back in order, 20, 0, 900 hours. Let's move on to section 6.5. Councilmember Flynn.

[3:01:41] Okay, so this is just a continuation of the discussion if anyone wants to discuss about the zoning change, putting the 1146 single family, low density units onto 40 acres at the junior college. All right, I'll open up public comment on 6.5.

[3:02:03] 5, at 20, 10 hours.

[3:02:26] Kathleen Dale, again, and just a couple of things the ordinance is before you, I'm sorry.

[3:02:35] That someone was interrupting me.

[3:02:40] The ordinance is very unclear on the map, and I went back and looked at the maps from

[3:02:46] prior meetings as well.

[3:02:49] There are in some of the earlier maps where gray is used for the public facilities district.

[3:02:56] There are two little blobs that are being left isolated down on the south edge of the property and at the south east edge.

[3:03:03] So you might want to just confirm what the boundaries actually are for this rezoning.

[3:03:11] I think it was mentioned earlier that there are some errors in the ordinances and

[3:03:16] And this is one where it says that the planning commission recommended approval for this, that is absolutely false.

[3:03:22] And the planning commission recommendation was 5-0.

[3:03:28] The inaccuracies and inconsistencies should be fixed.

[3:03:32] And again, I'd ask that you not proceed with the second reading.

[3:03:36] Thank you.

[3:03:47] Anyone online?

[3:03:53] Okay, I have a grant, Roy.

[3:03:55] Go ahead.

[3:04:04] Hello?

[3:04:05] Go ahead, we can do it.

[3:04:07] Okay, yeah, I was talking on item 64 and I believe I was in the right place when I was cut off.

[3:04:17] It was between 6.1 and 6.4 and you cut me off right in the middle of my comment saying I was in the wrong spot.

[3:04:24] I was in the right spot.

[3:04:26] So if I may, I would like to speak.

[3:04:28] I know you made your vote but I still think it applies to going forward if I may.

[3:04:33] and just just out of courtesy and you know let me just say what I'm going to say

[3:04:40] okay so I'll be quick so as I said earlier I would like to bring to the

[3:04:48] Council's attention that under the attachment on March 10th there was

[3:04:55] is attachment 11, 7.3, J2, and it's a...

[3:05:00] Exhibit G1 Modified Project Conceptual Plan. And the point I'm raising is that it's showing under this revised plan, it's removed 256,753 square feet of industrial buildings on planning areas 278. In addition, they've removed the purple color coding for industrial land use that was on the

[3:05:29] the 2023 specific plan and the DEIR and you know they they have their color that that

[3:05:39] purple for all of the planning error. So that's now gone under this revision that I just

[3:05:45] mentioned okay and there's no okay so planning to area two is showing potential future retail

[3:05:54] area and planning areas seven and eight have no land use descriptions and

[3:05:59] again there's no color coding so what I'm going to ask first of all is to

[3:06:04] let's go back to the banning general plan okay let's say that prior to the

[3:06:11] vote okay showing planning area two is commercial retail burnt orange color is

[3:06:17] showing planning area seven as existing residential and colors are brown for

[3:06:22] for high density and lemon for low density.

[3:06:25] And planning area eight is existing residential

[3:06:28] lemon color for low density, okay?

[3:06:33] So for clarity in the community interest,

[3:06:37] I'm asking you the planning area is 278, okay?

[3:06:40] For those three, that the city council

[3:06:44] retained banning existing general plan

[3:06:48] land use designation, and color code.

[3:06:53] So the specific plan that was approved in the first reading, it's clearly described as

[3:06:59] a modified plan, okay?

[3:07:02] A modified plan can clearly include elements from both the existing general plan and the

[3:07:08] proposed specific plan.

[3:07:11] Now I under, okay, so that's really why I'm on the phone, okay?

[3:07:15] Okay, so just look at that, again, it's a catchment 11 that was on the March 10th agenda.

[3:07:25] And just look at it and all I'm asking you to do is that for those three planning areas

[3:07:32] 278, go ahead and plug in the existing general plan because they're not going to be used for

[3:07:40] industrial.

[3:07:40] The industrial buildings have been removed.

[3:07:43] Now, there's a part of me like I'm a practical person.

[3:07:47] So how I know there's procedures and stuff,

[3:07:50] but however you skin the cat,

[3:07:52] maybe you could come back and show the map,

[3:07:56] they call it a modified conceptual side plan.

[3:08:00] You could come back and say here what we've done,

[3:08:02] because it seems like you're in that direction already on March 10.

[3:08:07] So all I'm asking is just for those three planning areas,

[3:08:10] just use the banning general plan, their descriptions and designations, and their color codes. I mean,

[3:08:21] they're those color codes, they're a visual necessity for the general public. And so however you

[3:08:28] skin the cat, now you didn't hang me up, and you let me speak, okay? So however you guys can solve that

[3:08:34] problem. I did my level best. I actually was in the meeting on time when I cut off and I was

[3:08:41] there for 6.4 and I was cut off. So, procedurally I feel this should be brought back and be submitted in

[3:08:49] the record for the 6.4 and there you go. So, I got to stay in my piece and I wish you all a great

[3:08:59] You know, you guys are you should be a phenomenal community don't sell yourself. You should listen to the people in your community. They want more and they want better.

[3:09:08] And you know, with the warehouse is there's the jump markets really changing quickly as we speak. I mean, the job losses and the contraction or automation, you know, is a lot, but I'm sure you heard that before. Okay, I better go. Thank you.

[3:09:25] All right, thank you for your comments and we'll make that note to put those under the property tab proper tab 6.4

[3:09:35] any other discussion

[3:09:37] public comment

[3:09:39] Anybody else online?

[3:09:41] All right

[3:09:45] Seeing none others we will close public comment at 2017-hundred hours and

[3:09:52] And yeah, can stuff look at that reference, the color coding and...

[3:10:00] Could we get a clean copy of that that we can put somewhere on so that everybody has access to it and can see it whether it's online or something.

[3:10:09] We can put it on community development. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Discussion. Okay, so I think this was a valuable exercise, although futile.

[3:10:26] But I just like to make some comments. This project, like I said before,

[3:10:32] or is a great project, just in the wrong area, in my opinion.

[3:10:39] It's not compatible with the adjacent existing neighborhoods.

[3:10:45] There are no mitigation measures, delineated for pollution, traffic, greenhouse gases.

[3:10:55] P1.0, P2.5, which is the fine particulate.

[3:10:59] But there's no mitigation measures only, a statement of overriding consideration saying

[3:11:05] that it's more important to have jobs and money than the citizen's health and welfare.

[3:11:19] All the industrial uses are still allowed in the future.

[3:11:23] You may say it's decreased, but it's still 5.5 million, and it can still be built.

[3:11:31] And, again, without approval, council, just approval of the administrator, which would

[3:11:39] be staff.

[3:11:41] Again, I don't believe there's clear written documentation of the changes made.

[3:11:45] I think that there's a lot of loose ends.

[3:11:48] There's, I hope it doesn't come back to bite us because we don't not have an iron clad contract

[3:11:55] here.

[3:12:00] As far as people saying that this has been on the works for five years, no, the property was bought five years ago.

[3:12:08] However, this project hasn't been really on anyone's public radar or the citizens radar until a year and a half ago.

[3:12:17] In fact, this project was hidden from the public for many years.

[3:12:23] And people were not told that there were going to be warehouses.

[3:12:27] They were only told there was going to be climbing walls and go-cart race tracks and restaurants.

[3:12:35] That's what they were told.

[3:12:37] They were not told about the warehouses.

[3:12:39] And I understand it is still on the website that that's what's going to be.

[3:12:45] And you totally negate the warehouses even in all the information you sent out in emails.

[3:12:50] you are polls and everything, you never mentioned warehouses. I find that very

[3:12:57] deceptive and disturbing going forward since we have to have mutual trust and

[3:13:05] we have to have a honest broker.

[3:13:12] So on a more personal note I was able to

[3:13:19] actually drive through that property a couple of weeks ago because the gates are finally opened,

[3:13:25] never been able to drive through there and I drove through there and I took a lot of photographs

[3:13:29] and I got out and I looked around and it is a stunning piece of property. It has vistas to the north

[3:13:38] that are gorgeous, it has vistas to the south, it has three streams running through it,

[3:13:44] like Arroyo's, it is perfect for residential with a commercial aspect of what it was

[3:13:53] zoned for. That's what fits into the community. That's what you bought it as. That's what,

[3:14:00] in my opinion, in my vision for this city, it should stay. I'm obviously totally outnumbered.

[3:14:09] But my heart is very, very heavy because I think we're losing a great opportunity to preserve this and

[3:14:20] to actually have families in one affordable area that's left in Southern California and bring families in.

[3:14:27] That's what brings in restaurants and brings in stores.

[3:14:31] These are not going to bring that.

[3:14:32] not. It may bring you your 3 million and 60 days, it may, but that's a drop in the bucket.

[3:14:40] And this city is not going to go bankrupt. It is not close to go bankrupt, but even if

[3:14:46] it was, 3 million wasn't going to change that. So, you know, I'm very disappointed in this

[3:14:52] Council. I think this is very wrong. I think in the long run it's going to be a big regret.

[3:15:00] I hope I'm wrong. I really do. I hope I'm wrong. I hope this is a very successful project and everything that you have promised us. And more happens. I really do. But right now I don't see it that way. So that's it. Thank you.

[3:15:19] Can I hear from the,

[3:15:28] just tell me anything, just like they think you won't tell me anything.

[3:15:33] Just, just explain why you want to come here, was the main goal for being here to help

[3:15:40] banning out?

[3:15:42] Yeah, I, obviously you've heard my testimony, you know, multiple times.

[3:15:47] If you look at what we do as a company, this is a place, why did I buy it?

[3:15:55] Because I knew I wanted to invest here because of the fundamentals of the market.

[3:16:00] That was my main driver before I knew any of you, the fundamentals of this market, investing here.

[3:16:06] I founded this company 15 years ago with my partners.

[3:16:10] We've never let a community down once, we've never fulfilled, not fulfilled a promise

[3:16:16] in any community, I've negotiated every development agreement.

[3:16:21] I think we've, I think what I've heard is that I tried to give you a project that gave

[3:16:26] you commercial first, I tried to give you the public benefits that you needed from a financial

[3:16:33] standpoint, I tried to give you job creation, I tried to give a package that I thought would

[3:16:39] be embraced and I want you to hear and I've said to many citizens I appreciate that they've

[3:16:48] showed up. I go to a lot of places where folks don't speak up and I'm glad there's a process.

[3:16:56] I don't think it's been not transparent. I think it's been extremely transparent. I've been

[3:17:01] at this podium a lot. I want to invest in your community. I do want to, I want this to be a great

[3:17:08] project I believe it will be a great project and I think that you know time will

[3:17:15] tell here but I think and I would just open it up if you would like me to come

[3:17:19] to community meetings I'm saying it on the record again if you like me to come

[3:17:25] specifically to the Sun Lakes community me personally and talk through the

[3:17:29] of this project, or any community group, rotary optimists,

[3:17:37] Kiwanis, toastmasters, you tell me where, when?

[3:17:42] I will be there, or somebody from North Point will be there

[3:17:45] to talk about the facts of this project,

[3:17:48] and what we're going to do, and what we're going to do.

[3:17:50] If you'd like me to come every month and give you an update

[3:17:52] of where we're at with Lafko, with our retailer,

[3:17:55] as I hear a lot of rumors, and there's a lot of social media

[3:17:57] about how, I mean, I got called a windbag tonight.

[3:18:00] A windbag that owns 600 buildings

[3:18:02] and is done across this country,

[3:18:04] build the largest privately held landlord in the country.

[3:18:07] And I'm a windbag.

[3:18:09] And I'm going to prove that wrong.

[3:18:10] And I'm going to prove it wrong.

[3:18:11] And we're going to bring you a retail.

[3:18:13] We're going to bring you your jobs.

[3:18:15] And wherever you would like me to show up

[3:18:16] to say that, give updates.

[3:18:18] Have updates on a website.

[3:18:20] Provide a memo and email to you monthly.

[3:18:23] We will give you every update.

[3:18:25] We will be transparent.

[3:18:27] And we want the public to know and we want you as council members and mayor to understand where exactly we're at on this project with approvals.

[3:18:36] With our retailer because we know it's important to you.

[3:18:39] So you tell me where to be and when to be there and we'll be there as a company and we'll show up.

[3:18:44] I've already talked to some of the other groups in the community nonprofits about how we can participate in this community.

[3:18:51] We want to be a part of your community.

[3:18:54] We're not just investing a billion dollars here.

[3:18:57] We'll have boots on the ground here.

[3:18:59] We'll invest in your community, rodeo, stage coach days.

[3:19:04] You tell me what it is that we need to come to.

[3:19:07] If someone needs help in your district, there's a volunteer event.

[3:19:11] The foundation, we do events almost every week at North Point called live generously.

[3:19:16] We're picking up trash, cleaning parks.

[3:19:18] You tell us where to be and we'll be there.

[3:19:20] We just need that input from you, because we want to be partners, so thank you.

[3:19:25] I just want to make sure, too, we really need family entertainment stuff.

[3:19:30] That's what we need, because there's a lot of young families that's moving in,

[3:19:35] like to at well, and so it's not too for them to do.

[3:19:38] They have to go to Murrino Valley to jump with them, and we need some stuff like that, you know?

[3:19:44] As I said, before with our retailer, we're donating that ground to them.

[3:19:48] We're donating the ground to the tenet, the main retailer, the anchor, so that we can have a

[3:19:57] retailer start here

[3:20:00] And from that, we can build on the retail and the commercial component. We know what you want. I'm sorry, was that a question?

[3:20:08] Okay.

[3:20:10] Oh, thank you. Thank you. Any other?

[3:20:15] We're in discussion. We're still in discussion.

[3:20:21] Well, I would just like to say that since I was basically called a turn coat, I did. It's true. I did campaign against warehouses.

[3:20:34] And I was dead set against this, this project before I got elected.

[3:20:40] But after I got elected and saw the true financial situation of the city,

[3:20:49] it was hard for me to say no to the commercial aspect of this project.

[3:20:56] This isn't just a warehouse project.

[3:20:58] There's 52 for acres of commercial, and this developer has agreed to build the commercial

[3:21:13] anchor store first, that nobody seems to believe.

[3:21:18] And I feel like anybody that knows me should recognize the fact that if I change my mind

[3:21:26] about this project that should say something because I had every reason in the book to vote

[3:21:32] no. But I see the need for the city and and yes it is about money because the city needs

[3:21:43] the revenue. We don't make the revenue off the sales tax from Jack in the box and KFC.

[3:21:55] That

[3:21:56] And it certainly doesn't pay for an animal shelter that everybody thinks we should just be able to snap our fingers and bring back.

[3:22:04] The city needs a revenue to do that and the only way to do that is with sales tax revenue.

[3:22:12] And jobs are something that we need as well, but that's not what swayed my vote.

[3:22:18] It's the sales tax revenue that this commercial retail will bring us.

[3:22:23] So, I'll just say that I'll continue to change my mind if I think that the situation

[3:22:33] more in set.

[3:22:35] Thank you.

[3:22:36] We

[3:22:43] know going into this project, in this vote, that it was going to be a difficult

[3:22:48] vote to take.

[3:22:50] But people have to realize, you know, I didn't hurt, we want houses there.

[3:22:55] Well, let's be realistic.

[3:22:58] If there's going to be houses there, we had Atwell come in, they didn't buy that property.

[3:23:02] We had KB homes come, they didn't buy that property.

[3:23:05] We have Loma Linda trying to come in, they don't want to buy that property.

[3:23:10] There's a reason homes are not going there because they can't afford to go there.

[3:23:15] The only thing that's good for to go there is the commercial industrial development.

[3:23:21] Because they could pay the money to do the infrastructure.

[3:23:25] We are getting a great DA out of this.

[3:23:28] We're getting a fire station that people have been complaining about that we need on the south side.

[3:23:34] We're getting money for economic development.

[3:23:36] It might not come the first day, but it's coming, it's written, they're not trying to get out of it.

[3:23:44] We're getting money for our animal shelter, our tax revenue is going to go up.

[3:23:48] So, there's some negatives and it's going to be negatives to any project that goes there, but there's a lot of positives.

[3:23:57] And that's what we have to look at.

[3:23:59] And we have to look at the big picture for the City of Banny.

[3:24:02] Not just for one area.

[3:24:04] I sympathize with Sun Lakes and the City of Banny needs this project.

[3:24:13] So, that's the way I voted.

[3:24:16] And that's all I have, Mayor.

[3:24:25] Well, first I'd like to apologize to Ms. Dale and anybody else who may have offended on my comments about being amusing and trucks and all that that was certainly not my intent was simply trying to illustrate the obvious that we all live in Southern California and we are inundated by traffic the public benefits do not go unnoticed.

[3:24:49] In addition to that fire station, which is desperately needed south of I-10, what we've

[3:24:56] done, and I don't see where we can't do it here as two crit-oves.

[3:25:00] Space within that, to how's a police substation to also have law enforcement south of I-10, where it's desperately needed. Not to mention the other community impact that's going to have with revitalization of downtown assistance to the future of an animal shelter, which we all desperately need. So yeah, we represent the city, but we also are five individuals who represent our districts, and we have five districts. And my district four.

[3:25:29] I listen to them, and again, I am not

[3:25:32] unsympathetic to everyone's

[3:25:34] comments and concerns here, but I

[3:25:38] believe that it is a growth that

[3:25:41] is necessary to bring banning to

[3:25:42] a point where we need to be.

[3:25:44] And with any luck, this is just the

[3:25:47] first of many that we can finally get

[3:25:51] other retail to come in here and

[3:25:53] other development and other interests.

[3:25:56] So again, the warehouses, I

[3:25:59] I think it's a necessary evil.

[3:26:01] But I think when you look at the concessions

[3:26:02] that have been made back and forth,

[3:26:06] there was pain on both sides on this negotiation.

[3:26:08] I said it before, during any kind of negotiation,

[3:26:12] if one side walks out of the room,

[3:26:13] think that they got one over the other side,

[3:26:15] then it wasn't a very good negotiation.

[3:26:17] There has to be pain felt on both sides.

[3:26:19] And I think that was definitely the case here.

[3:26:21] So, that's all I have.

[3:26:24] Only retain the motion.

[3:26:25] I

[3:26:29] make a motion to conduct second reading and adopt the ordinance number 1619 approve his own change case numbers the C 22-302 to amend the zoning and approximately 41 acres of land owned by Mount San Jacinto Community College District.

[3:26:48] Located near the southeast corner of Westward in sunset Avenue from public facility schools

[3:26:54] To very high density and residential to transfer

[3:26:58] density of not less than 1,146 residential units from the Sunset Crossway specific plan

[3:27:10] Is there a second

[3:27:12] a second

[3:27:16] another discussion

[3:27:19] Please vote.

[3:27:54] I'm waiting for councilmember Berryden

[3:27:57] Thank

[3:28:00] you.

[3:28:05] Motion carries 4-1.

[3:28:08] Next up is 9.1.

[3:28:11] Discussion of approving a finance director.

[3:28:18] Thank you, Mayor.

[3:28:19] It is my pleasure to introduce Jennifer Terry.

[3:28:24] She is here with her family, patiently waiting for her contract to be heard before council.

[3:28:30] I'm going to give you her background and education and then I'm going to ask our city attorney

[3:28:37] to read through the terms of her contract so that everybody knows in a transparent manner

[3:28:43] what the contract entails.

[3:28:46] So Jennifer started with the City of Marino Valley in June of 2005 where she stayed until

[3:28:52] June of 2019.

[3:28:55] She then moved over to the City of Nuretta in the finance department in June of 2019 where

[3:29:01] She currently is employed and she is their finance manager.

[3:29:06] She's been their finance manager since June of 2022.

[3:29:12] Jennifer does have experience with Fiscaly Distress City, which was very exciting to me when I first met her.

[3:29:19] She holds a Bachelor of Science in Business from the University of Redlands.

[3:29:25] And as attended numerous leadership academies, including one that I've attended through ICMA,

[3:29:31] the high performance leadership academy, so she graduated from that.

[3:29:35] She has also achieved the Distinguished GFOA Triple Crown Award, which is extremely

[3:29:43] difficult to get, I know because my previous city did it.

[3:29:48] She also has, I'm sorry, multiple years she's achieved for her city, the Triple Crown.

[3:29:54] She's also achieved the CSMFO Capital Budget Excellence Award.

[3:30:00] Councillor her city as well, and so with that, I'd like to turn it over to our city attorney to read the terms of her agreement. Thank you, City Manager Gibbs. With SB 707, there are some changes in the Brown Act. One of the changes in the Brown Act requires executive compensation, not just city manager compensation to be reported out. That provision is not affected until July 1st of 2026.

[3:30:28] However, as the city manager said, we're going to report out sooner than the law requires out of transparency and so the public is aware.

[3:30:37] So the compensation report on the finance director's contract is as follows.

[3:30:43] There will be an annual salary of 194 502.99 annually.

[3:30:51] The reasonable necessary business expenses will be reimbursed.

[3:30:55] First, the term is a five-year term, and if there is termination without cause, there

[3:31:02] is a six-month severance, and three months of medical, however, if there's termination

[3:31:08] for cause, or if it expires by its own terms, there's no severance payment.

[3:31:14] Professional development in accordance with the adopted budget.

[3:31:18] Sick leave is accrued at 96 hours annually which is 3.96 hours per pay period with a maximum

[3:31:27] accrual of 480 hours.

[3:31:30] There is a cash out provision of up to 96 hours, however, there has to be 40 hours in the

[3:31:36] sick leave bank in order to remain in order to do that.

[3:31:40] Vacation is 160 hours annually which accrues at 6.15 hours per pay period.

[3:31:48] and if there's a cruel above 300 hours, that may be cashed out at 50%.

[3:31:55] There is an 80-hour cashout provision, as long as there's in the minimum of 80 hours

[3:32:00] in the vacation bank.

[3:32:03] There is executive leave also referred to as administrative leave of 98 hours with a maximum

[3:32:10] of a cruel of 200 hours and that occurs at 3.77 hours per pay period.

[3:32:16] There is a provision for cash out of up to 98 hours annually.

[3:32:22] 13 holidays, one floating holiday, bereavement leave.

[3:32:26] There is a cafeteria, a health and welfare plan that is capped at $20,000 per year.

[3:32:32] Pursor retirement formula is 2% at $60, an auto allowance of $250 per month.

[3:32:39] Life insurance, which is paid by the city up to $150,000.

[3:32:43] dollars, educational pay incentive of $275 per month for a master's degree.

[3:32:49] I wear reimbursement of $300 every two years in a utility credit of $150 per month.

[3:32:58] That concludes the compensation report for the finance directors contract.

[3:33:03] Thank you.

[3:33:08] Any questions?

[3:33:09] I have a question for the contract, that utility of $150 that should only apply.

[3:33:16] if she lives in the city limits.

[3:33:19] Correct.

[3:33:20] Okay.

[3:33:22] Any other clarifying questions?

[3:33:26] Open up to public comment.

[3:33:30] Anyone online?

[3:33:31] I'm Sam.

[3:33:32] All right, close public comment, entertain a motion.

[3:33:39] Consideration of resolution 2026-63 approving

[3:33:43] and finance director employment agreement.

[3:33:47] Adopt resolution 2026-63.

[3:33:51] I'll second.

[3:33:52] Please vote.

[3:33:52] motion

[3:34:03] carries 5-0. Congratulations.

[3:34:05] I was going to mayor if it's all right. I'd like Jennifer to introduce herself.

[3:34:08] Absolutely.

[3:34:15] There's no turning back now.

[3:34:20] Well, hello. My name's Jennifer Terry.

[3:34:24] I've been in government for 25 years and I am a lifelong public servant.

[3:34:33] I understand the city has its challenges

[3:34:36] And I look forward to correcting those challenges and getting the city back in good standards.

[3:34:46] I have experience with backlog of in accounting and audits and getting them into the regular schedule as they should be.

[3:35:10] And I do look forward to working here at the city. Thank you. Would you like to come up

[3:35:18] and get some photos with your family? Yes. They've been patiently waiting. Can we swear her in real quick? And then we'll do the photos. Thank you.

[3:35:28] Jennifer

[3:35:34] Terry, I Jennifer Terry, who solemnly square that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of California, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith in allegiance, that I will bear true faith in allegiance,

[3:36:02] to the Constitution of the United States, to the Constitution of the State of California,

[3:36:09] and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely,

[3:36:16] without any mental reservations, or purpose of evasion,

[3:36:26] and that I will well and faithfully

[3:36:28] this charge. The duties which I'm about to enter.

[3:36:43] Mono, photo?

[3:36:59] No, I heard two with council.

[3:37:59] She's taken it from a higher angle than me, so I'm like, oh my God.

[3:38:17] She said she's, she said she's, um, she's contagious.

[3:38:44] I don't think we're not going to get tonight too because right now we're going to go back in a close session.

[3:38:55] All right, see Monday. Monday.

[3:38:57] All right, per the agenda approval, after 9.1 we are going to recess and go back into closed session.

[3:39:10] In fairness, closed session is expected to be no less than an hour and a half.

[3:39:17] So fair warning, at this point we're going to recess back into closed session 20, 47 hours.

[3:39:24] All

[3:39:48] right, we're back from close session at 22, 43 hours.

[3:39:53] Madam Attorney, can you report on close session?

[3:39:56] Thank you, Mayor.

[3:39:57] With respect to item 3.1.

[3:40:00] The two cases 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4, there is no action to report on any of the closed session agenda items. That concludes my report. Thank you.

[3:40:17] And with that, we have remaining items 9.2, 9.3, 9.4, 9.5.

[3:40:28] We just satisfy 4.1.

[3:40:32] Oh wait a minute, hold on.

[3:40:35] I don't know.

[3:40:40] 4.1.

[3:40:41] No, we're an open session.

[3:40:42] We just reported that on a closed session.

[3:40:43] That was 4.1.

[3:40:45] Am

[3:40:50] I missing?

[3:40:53] I don't have a 4.1 on mine.

[3:40:54] Hold on.

[3:41:00] 4.1.

[3:41:01] 4.1.

[3:41:02] 4.1.

[3:41:02] We did 9.1.

[3:41:03] That's 9.1.

[3:41:10] Oh.

[3:41:11] 4.1.

[3:41:12] 4.1.

[3:41:13] 4.1.

[3:41:14] That's 4.1.

[3:41:14] I have to close this closed session.

[3:41:15] You're right.

[3:41:15] So we closed close that and we're back in open session with 4.1 and

[3:41:27] then we won't have to yeah

[3:41:28] We'll do 4.1 and then we won't be able to do anything past 11 so I have to push everything to the next one

[3:41:33] So who's presenting on 4.1 open session agenda and I'm pursuing professional services agreement

[3:41:41] Where's my city manager?

[3:41:51] We got 4.1. We can do this in

[3:41:54] 14 minutes

[3:41:56] Did you

[3:42:20] find her?

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