[3:43] Good evening. We're going to call to order the uh September 9th, 2026 regular

[3:48] meeting of the zoning uh board of adjustment for the township of Bernards.

[3:52] And the first item on the agenda is the flag salute. May I ask you please stand

[3:56] if you can?

[4:01] United States for its

[4:07] indivisible.

[4:16] In accordance with the requirements of the open public meetings law, notice of

[4:20] this meeting of the board of adjustment of the township of Burners was posted on

[4:25] the bulletin board in the reception hall of the of the municipal building, Kier

[4:30] Lane, Basking Ridge, New Jersey. Was mailed to the Burnersville News,

[4:33] Whippony, New Jersey, Curry Courier News, Bridgewater, New Jersey, and was

[4:39] filed with the township clerk all on January 8th, 2026. and was mailed

[4:44] electronically to all those people who have requested individual notice. The

[4:49] following procedure has been adopted by the Bernard's Township Zoning Board of

[4:52] Adjustment. There will be no new cases heard after 10 p.m. and no new testimony

[4:58] heard after 10:30 p.m.

[5:05] » Uh, Miss Layman, would you uh do the roll call, please?

[5:08] » Chairwoman Bowman >> here.

[5:10] » Miss Dandrea, >> here. Mr. Krauss

[5:13] » here. >> Mr. Leazinski

[5:14] » here. >> Mr. Lindamman

[5:16] » here. >> Miss Pear

[5:17] » here. >> Miss Silver

[5:19] » here. >> Miss Trap

[5:20] » here. >> Mr. Soi

[5:22] » here. >> Mr. Quinn

[5:24] » here. >> Mr. Schly

[5:25] » here. >> And for the record, Miss Layman is

[5:27] present. Madam Chair, you have a quorum and may proceed.

[5:30] » Thank you, Miss Slayman. Um, for the approval of the minutes, were the July

[5:36] 16th minutes circulated to everyone? >> No, they were not. Okay, we can skip

[5:40] those. So, um, we'll hold those to the next meeting. Um, the August 5th, 2026

[5:46] regular section session minutes. Um, do we have anyone who's not eligible to

[5:52] vote on those? >> Only three people can vote on them. Miss

[5:55] Dandrea, Mr. Krauss, and you? >> Okay. Um, so did everybody have a chance

[6:01] to read uh the minutes? Does anybody have any comments or concerns?

[6:08] Seeing none, we have one. >> Would you like to make a motion? Um,

[6:16] so then all those in favor of approving the minutes. Oh, do we have to make a

[6:21] motion? >> I'll make a motion to approve as

[6:23] drafted. >> And Miss

[6:24] » I'll second. >> And Mr. Carlson and Mr. Andrea. All

[6:27] those in favor? >> I

[6:29] » um Okay. So then the approval of the resolutions, I think we have a similar

[6:35] » That's correct. for Allan it's only uh Miss Dandrea, Mr. Krauss, Miss Par and

[6:41] and you madam chair >> but for all of them um Miss Trap is

[6:47] eligible for the other four. >> Okay,

[6:50] » she got here late that one. >> Right. Okay. So then for the approval of

[6:54] resolutions we have Allan Steven and Christy block 3302 lot 10 6 castle way

[7:00] ZB26-00006.

[7:03] Um, do we have a motion to approve that uh resolution as drafted? Changes,

[7:09] amendments. >> Motion to approve as drafted.

[7:18] » I was okay. Sorry, Miss

[7:21] » Pear. No, it's okay. >> Down when you said it the first time.

[7:26] » So, Miss Slayman, >> Miss Dandrea,

[7:29] » yes. >> Mr. Krauss,

[7:31] » yes. >> Miss Pear,

[7:32] » yes. Chairwoman Bowman. >> Yes.

[7:35] » Um and then for Rothbard Jared and Lena Marray, block 4102, lot 14, 17, Wayne

[7:42] Terrace, ZB26-00003. Motion to approve as drafted. Any

[7:47] amendments, changes? >> I'll make a motion to approve as

[7:49] drafted. >> Second,

[7:53] Mr. Andrea. >> Thank you, Miss Andrea. Miss Layman.

[7:56] » Mr. Dandrea. >> Yes.

[7:58] » Mr. Krauss. >> Yes.

[7:59] » Miss Pear. >> Yes.

[8:00] » Miss Trap. >> Yes. Chairwoman Bowman.

[8:03] » Yes. >> Thank you.

[8:04] » Uh for Cox, Shaun R. and Katherine E. Block 6303, lot 8 33 Feeasant Run Drive,

[8:11] ZB26-015.

[8:15] Motion to approve as drafted. >> I'll make a motion to approve as

[8:18] drafted. >> Second,

[8:20] » Par and Mr. Krauss. >> Miss Dandrea.

[8:23] » Yes. >> Mr. Krauss.

[8:24] » Yes. >> Miss Pear.

[8:26] » Yes. >> Miss Trap.

[8:27] » Yes. >> Chairwoman Bowman.

[8:28] » Yes. >> Thank you. Uh for Clayton, we have one

[8:31] edit. Um did we say that was on page nine?

[8:34] » It was page nine. Uh >> oh, paragraph 30. Item under small Roman

[8:43] numeral 2

[8:48] private >> typo with the word private, I think.

[9:45] I think this work.

[9:49] » Hold on. Slight technical difficulty. Hang on.

[9:56] » Yeah, it was Rothart. >> Okay.

[9:59] » Get through Clayton and then we'll go back.

[10:00] » Okay. So, Clayton. >> Clayton's good. No issues with

[10:04] » Clayton. Kevin Owl and Lisa A. Block 1803, lot 12, 191 South Finley Avenue,

[10:09] ZB26 017. Uh, motion to approve as drafted.

[10:15] » Motion to approve as drafted. >> Thank you, Mr. Andrea.

[10:18] » I'll second that. >> And Miss Par.

[10:21] » Miss Drea. >> Yes.

[10:23] » Mr. Krauss. >> Yes.

[10:24] » Miss Pear. >> Yes.

[10:26] » Miss Trap. >> Yes.

[10:27] » Chairwoman Bowman. >> Yes.

[10:28] » Thank you. >> I'll just note um there was supposed to

[10:31] be a correction made to Rothbart. Um on page nine item two sub item Roman

[10:40] numeral line three uh there was a parenthesis around the letter P first

[10:45] line there or the third line I'm sorry that and then on the fourth line in that

[10:51] paragraph space between 30 and feet that just

[10:54] needs so

[10:58] formally but the board could just make a motion to amend that resolution.

[11:02] » Okay. Can I have a motion to amend the Rothbard resolution?

[11:05] » Motion to amend >> with the um typos, minor typos.

[11:10] » Typos changed. >> Second.

[11:12] » And Miss Par. Mr. Kra and Miss Par.

[11:18] » Drea. >> Yes.

[11:19] » Mr. Krauss. >> Yes.

[11:22] » Miss Trap. >> Yes.

[11:23] » Chairwoman Bowman. >> Yes.

[11:28] » No problem. Um, and then the last resolution is the Gallow resolution,

[11:34] David and Alexandra, block 1902, lot 28, 20 Vorhees Drive, ZB26-016.

[11:42] Motion to approve as drafted. >> Motion to approve as drafted.

[11:46] » Krauss. >> Second.

[11:48] » Dandrea. >> Dandrea.

[11:51] » Yes. >> Mr. Krauss. Miss Pear.

[11:54] » Yes. >> Miss Trap.

[11:55] » Yes. >> Chairwoman Bowman.

[11:56] » Yes. >> Thank you.

[11:58] » All right. Next on the agenda is the completeness hearing for uh SIG CI Mount

[12:03] Ary LLC block 2401 lot 3 180 to 188 Mount Airy Road major subdivision bulk

[12:11] variances and Dvariances for conditional use and F ZB25-035.

[12:17] Do we have anybody here from that application? Uh seeing none and from Mr.

[12:23] Schl your memo they have um turned in everything that was required at this

[12:29] time. >> I said the board previously deemed this

[12:32] incomplete a couple times. The board granted a couple waiverss. At this point

[12:36] um the applicant has submitted everything that was not waved.

[12:44] » Okay. Anybody have any comments, questions? Motion to application

[12:50] complete.

[12:53] I'll second >> Dr. or Mr. Krauss.

[12:59] » Mr. Krauss. >> Yes.

[13:01] » Mr. I'm sorry. Mr. Leazinski. >> Yes.

[13:04] » Mr. Lindamman. >> Yes.

[13:06] » Miss Pear. >> Yes.

[13:07] » Miss Silver. >> Yes.

[13:09] » Miss Trap. >> Yes.

[13:10] » Chairwoman Bowman. >> Yes.

[13:12] » Thank you. >> Um, thank you.

[13:18] Before

[13:22] we get into the meat and potatoes of the meeting, um just want to note uh there

[13:27] were three applications on tonight's agenda. 59, 87, and 93 South Finley

[13:32] LLC's. Um we received uh communications to

[13:36] their attorney that they're going to revise and resubmit their application.

[13:39] Uh they were seeking an appeal of the zoning officer's decision and they're

[13:43] going to be resubmitting the application as a just a request for variance relief.

[13:47] They did provide notice several months ago, but based on the very nature of

[13:52] their application changing. Um, we're going to require that they redo their

[13:56] notice appropriately for the the type of relief being requested now instead of

[14:00] before. So, just want to note that if anyone's here for those applications,

[14:05] the that's again that's the 59 South Finley LLC, 87 South Finley LLC, 93

[14:10] South Finley LLC applications. It's not going to be heard tonight. I think we're

[14:14] probably going to try to pick it up in October. Joanne, correct me if I'm

[14:18] wrong. South >> because if they submit,

[14:28] » right,

[14:37] right.

[14:54] Okay.

[15:03] Okay. Gotcha. All right. Just want to let only

[15:06] reason I bring it up. Just want to say if there is any members of the public

[15:09] here for that. Uh the hearing on that's going to be uh to be determined as at

[15:14] this point. So >> is there an expectation

[15:20] » for work so we don't have to continue to

[15:29] » Okay.

[15:40] Um, okay. Are you finished? >> Yeah, that's it. Just letting everybody

[15:44] know we're not hearing that tonight and we don't need to carry it because it's

[15:46] good. >> Um, and something I also ran past is

[15:50] should we do an um excuse of uh Miss Herrera? So, can I get a motion to

[15:55] excuse the absence of Miss Herrera? She did let us know beforehand that she

[15:59] wasn't able to make it this evening. Motion to excuse the absence of Miss

[16:04] Herrera Silver. >> I second.

[16:06] » Mr. Lazinski. Thank you. Um, all in favor?

[16:12] » I. >> Okay. Little housekeeping.

[16:15] » Yeah. Yeah. >> And Miss Pur, you're going to recuse

[16:19] yourself for a moment.

[16:29] Uh so uh the next item on the agenda is a hearing uh for the modification of

[16:34] condition of approval for P for PTAR Paul G block6002 lot 51

[16:42] 150 South Finley Avenue extension of time to begin the project ZB25-015A.

[16:51] » Thank you chairman Bin. Um, we're here to request an extension to our approved

[16:56] variance uh for another one-year extension to do the

[17:02] our existing two uh twotory barn as well as um regrading and putting block

[17:10] granite curving in our existing driveway. Uh the request is really due

[17:15] to extensive health and rehab requirements uh from me going through

[17:21] emergency surgery. Um this has required a lot of extensive

[17:27] uh work uh six months to a year and my focus has been to you know become um I

[17:34] would say mobile flexible and uh ability and have an ability to get around

[17:39] starting with the surgery having 10 weeks can't even put any weight

[17:49] it's been and I'm still going through the uh process So,

[17:53] » Mr. Pra, sorry to interrupt. Would you mind just pulling the microphone a

[17:55] little bit closer to your your >> Yeah, the audio is cutting in and out. I

[17:59] just want to Oh, I apologize. And I I watch you guys on TV and I if it gets

[18:02] you frustrated when that happens. >> I know. Exactly.

[18:05] » So, I hate to be that kind of a culprit. >> You're good. Not your fault. It's all

[18:08] good. >> So, essentially, that's the that's the

[18:10] basis of our request um is to allow us to time to begin working on the project.

[18:18] Uh well essentially we did working on the

[18:22] project and starting with just even cleaning up the barn. You can't do it

[18:26] with while you're working on a ground in terms of a bad angle

[18:33] as it relates to the variance. There's no changes to the land development

[18:37] ordinance. There's no changes to the approved

[18:43] uh September 3rd 2025 resolution. One thing of the conditions have

[18:49] advanced is the requirement to get approval from Bernard's Township Sewer

[18:54] Authority to uh hook the existing sewer line from the barn to our existing sewer

[18:59] line. So that was approved in October and we paid the um the hookup fee uh in

[19:06] November of this year. So there was work already uh going on that we had intended

[19:11] to do. Um we have moved the project forward with requests from uh to finish

[19:16] up the drawings and we've identified three u contra licensed contractors

[19:22] where we'll you know be looking. But with that said we're just asking for

[19:27] another year's extension of approved variance as is.

[19:38] » I could have filed them under our name and tried to start something but

[19:55] I have worked on it though. >> Okay. So, I I believe um through Mr.

[20:02] uh letter. Uh he confirms that there have been no changes to the zoning

[20:05] ordinance. Um and you have no changes planned for the project um that wasn't

[20:12] otherwise presented uh through your and approved through the resolution.

[20:16] Correct. >> Ros, did you have a question?

[20:19] » Um just you said you had a contractor. You haven't talked to a contractor yet.

[20:23] Do you know that's going to take a year or do you know when you're going to

[20:25] start the project and then it's going to take six months or just so we don't miss

[20:29] the year? You know what I you want to >> we don't intent of this but answer the

[20:33] question. >> Yeah, I have I have spoken directly.

[20:44] » We're hitting winter. That's why I'm wondering, you know,

[20:50] » your company, you're going to hit the year. That's all. Yeah.

[20:54] » Okay. Um,

[20:58] » does anybody have any questions for Mr. or Mrs. Paktar? Seeing none, any um Tom

[21:05] or Dave, >> when does the one year start date? Is it

[21:10] as of today? Like when we approve this or when is it

[21:12] » date of the original resolution? >> September 3rd, 2023.

[21:17] » Okay. So, next year. >> So, this would bring us to September

[21:19] 3rd, 2027. >> Not rushing it, but the year.

[21:25] Okay, great. >> Um but that but that date is to commence

[21:29] construction, not to be finished construction. To commence construction,

[21:33] » right? So um

[21:38] » yes, so we um we did circulate a uh res any changes to that. The motion would be

[21:45] to grant the extension request excepting the uh time to commence construction to

[21:50] September 3rd, 2027 and adopt the resolution as draft.

[21:55] You want to repeat all that? You can just say move.

[21:59] » So moved. >> That works. That works. So Mr. Krauss

[22:02] and a second. Do I have a second? And Miss Trap.

[22:07] » Miss Dandrea. >> Yes.

[22:09] » Mr. Krauss. >> Yes.

[22:11] » Mr. Leazinski. >> Yes.

[22:12] » Mr. Lindamman. >> Yes.

[22:14] » Miss Silver. >> Yes.

[22:15] » Miss Trap. >> Yes.

[22:17] » Chairwoman Bowman. >> Yes.

[22:18] » Thank you. >> You'll say thank you for your time and

[22:22] the approval. Have a great rest of the meeting.

[22:24] » Thanks. >> Stay healthy.

[22:27] » Healthy. >> I'm serious.

[22:31] » Uh, next on the agenda for completeness and public hearing is Jennings Patrick

[22:37] and Lease, block 5303, lot 7, 178 Galloping Hill Road, Bulk Variances, and

[22:44] it's ZB26-024. Are the Jennings here?

[22:51] Is she speaking on your behalf this evening?

[22:54] » I don't know if I can swear in if she's not at least.

[23:02] » I'll muddle through. >> He's admonishing us right now. I don't

[23:05] know if you see that face. >> Oh,

[23:09] » okay. Um, so I'm gonna Good. You got a free hand. Okay. I'm

[23:13] going to need to swear the two of you in as well as our two board professionals.

[23:16] All four of you could raise your right hand. Oh, we got got an expert here,

[23:19] too. How many people do you have testifying on your behalf? You got two

[23:22] two more witnesses. Okay. All six of you.

[23:27] All six of you swear or affirm the the testimony you're about to provide to be

[23:30] the truth, the whole truth, nothing but Okay. And uh sir, madam, just introduce

[23:36] yourselves. Uh state your full name, last name, and your address.

[23:40] » Fair. Patrick Jennings 178 Galloping Hill Road. You're in

[23:43] Basking Ridge. >> Elise Jennings, 178 Galloping Hill,

[23:48] Basking Ridge. Adeline

[23:54] assume the same. >> Uh so do you want to tell us a little

[23:58] bit about why you're here? >> Yes. So unfortunately back in um

[24:03] December after after Christmas we had a uh a house fire uh that that started in

[24:08] our garage um and uh kind of destroyed that that portion of the home that third

[24:13] of the home. Um rest of our home had uh extensive smoke and heat damage

[24:18] throughout. Um we worked through with our insurance company which is pretty

[24:24] much at a near end at this point. Um the whole home is gutted. Um and we kind of

[24:29] were in a position to um say you know want to make this our home where we stay

[24:35] here you know for the next couple of decades. And we were

[24:40] crammed as it was. And so this is kind of our opportunity to say let's let's

[24:44] add a little bit to it if we um

[25:00] » happened and was really we were like you know

[25:11] moved here with we moved here with no kids and this is our third five years

[25:16] ago and now we have

[25:26] » you got starting >> so everybody is happy and healthy

[25:29] otherwise but you know obviously it's been a really long nine months we are in

[25:32] a rental ambass but

[25:41] out of lemons is sort of what we're right.

[25:45] Um so

[25:50] originally um the house was over in the lot coverage.

[25:55] Um know how it got to be over in lot

[25:59] coverage. It it it it appeared to me when we when

[26:03] we purchased the home, it was like that that the driveway is quite large and I

[26:07] presume that that was the the culprit.

[26:11] » Yeah. But we weren't even Yeah, we weren't even privy to it. Um

[26:18] » when you started going for um the permits and approvals.

[26:22] » Yeah. And the architectural design and getting the

[26:26] that was the key.

[26:34] Okay. And did you add any changes when you first bought the house that

[26:39] um does anybody have any questions for Jennings

[26:43] or maybe if you're finished professionals? Did you have a question?

[26:52] » Talk to your neighbors about this project.

[26:54] » Yeah, they they all know the

[27:08] the house the way it is in a way too. >> I I have one other question. Have you

[27:14] have you do you have or have you had any issues water on the property like

[27:21] » So we we the only issue was was Ida and after Ida Yeah. Everyone did. Exactly.

[27:26] and and we we put some French drains around the backyard and hadn't had a

[27:30] problem since then.

[27:35] » Have you guys up here? The uh colorized photographs that were submitted with

[27:39] you.

[27:46] » Either of you take these photographs? >> I don't believe so.

[27:53] probably came from either probably the realtor or

[27:58] » Okay, I'll have him authenticate them when he gets

[28:01] » Okay. Usually the applicants take them. That's why I asked to figure save you

[28:04] guys second trip back up. Okay. >> All right. Anything else you guys want

[28:08] to add?

[28:18] No pressure here. No pressure. >> Baby, the birthday.

[28:27] » That's a lot. A >> lot of pressure here.

[28:30] » I know, right? That's all we're missing. >> All right, sir. I think I swore you in

[28:35] already. Uh name, business address, and uh your profession. Uh, my name is

[28:40] William Scott. I'm a professional engineer. Um, I am located at 146

[28:45] Somerville Road in Bedminster, New Jersey.

[28:49] » Much. And, uh, would you mind giving the board your uh, a little bit about your

[28:52] background, your professional credentials?

[28:54] » Uh, I have a bachelor of science uh, degree from the Clarkson University

[28:58] School of Engineering in New York. Uh, I obtained my uh, professional engineers

[29:02] license in New Jersey in 2004. I've had it in co standing ever since.

[29:08] Uh I have not appeared before uh this board, but I've appeared before uh

[29:12] several dozen other boards throughout central New Jersey. Uh many of the

[29:16] surrounding communities >> that your license was still current in

[29:20] good standing.

[29:23] » Civil engineer. >> Yes. Yes. Thank you.

[29:28] » Uh so I did uh meet with the Jennings at the site at the beginning of the

[29:32] project. Uh I noted the house was fire damaged and uninhabitable. Um they're

[29:39] working with Mr. Welish, the architect, who you'll hear from shortly, uh to

[29:42] develop some plans for the house. And u my job was to prepare the the site plans

[29:48] uh for the project. Uh the project I'm going to be referring

[29:53] basically to sheet one of my plan set for my testimony.

[29:58] That's the plan set dated uh 10th, 2026, revised May 28th.

[30:07] Yes. So as you look at that plan, the drawing

[30:12] to the left is the existing conditions and demolition plan and the plan to the

[30:17] right is basically a um dimensional proposed plan.

[30:23] Uh the proposed project uh encompasses um additions to the front of the house

[30:30] uh which is an expansion of the existing porch and the existing of a gazebo

[30:36] uh as well as the reconstruction of uh the front walkway.

[30:41] Um the gazebo and all that is shaded in the the light green color.

[30:49] The gazebo is situated forward from the house from the front facade and you'll

[30:54] hear from the architect that was done for aesthetic reasons. Uh but that does

[30:58] trigger a front yard variance. Um 75 ft is required and 66.3 feet is proposed.

[31:09] Uh to the rear uh of the house there is a proposed garage with second floor and

[31:15] then an additional uh second floor uh addition towards the central portion of

[31:21] the the rear of the house. Along with that there is a proposed gazebo.

[31:30] Uh you heard that the house uh the project does currently uh exceed the

[31:35] impervious coverage. Um I discussed with the the Jennings how

[31:40] important um block coverage is viewed by the township. Uh so we met at the site

[31:45] again. We walked the site and we tried to find areas that we could remove uh

[31:50] coverage.

[31:54] Uh if you look at the drawing to the left uh of the driveway, you'll see that

[31:58] kind of L-shaped red hatched area. uh that indicates an area of the um

[32:05] existing driveway that would be removed. Uh the net result would be uh a decrease

[32:12] of coverage of 24 square ft.

[32:19] Uh also in the engineering memo uh it was noted that we should be subtracting

[32:24] the um water surface of the pool from the previous coverage calculations. Uh

[32:30] the water surface is approximately 600 square feet.

[32:45] » Thank thank you for that. That was so the net result of the project right

[32:51] now is a decrease of coverage of 24 square feet.

[33:01] Uh to put this in context of of how much you know over

[33:07] um that is um we're coming in at 18.4%

[33:13] or 15% is allowed. So it's a overage of 3.4% for impervious coverage.

[33:27] Maximum permitted coverage is 15 >> 15.

[33:36] » All right. So, yeah, I've got to back out the water surface then. So

[33:47] » purposes and coverage

[33:54] » backed out of what I converted. >> I think what you're saying is if you

[34:00] take the pool surface and don't consider it law coverage, you're at 18.4

[34:06] is considered as law coverage. You're at 19.83. Is that correct?

[34:13] » Right. We're at 19.8 proposed. Um we are proposing a drywall and what

[34:20] I've done is if um proposed piping from the uh roofs to the front of the house

[34:27] and the right side of the house. Um and the thinking there is to bring um um

[34:34] a roof surface in excess of what the overage of impervious coverage is to a

[34:39] dry well. So we're providing proper treatment for that amount of imperous

[34:44] coverage.

[34:47] » But that's not showing on the plans, correct? That I don't see the drywall.

[34:51] » Well, that would be on two. So that's the grading plan.

[34:58] Yes, now I see it. Sorry.

[35:18] Do you have pads under the air conditioner, air

[35:25] conditioning units? and the generator

[35:30] concrete pads

[35:38] » is included. >> Yeah, I've included that within our

[35:41] calculations. Whether there's pads or not, I'm not sure, but we always include

[35:45] that. >> It is. It's in the 19.8 currently.

[35:48] Perfect. Thank you. Uh we are proposing 16 uh evergreen

[35:53] trees to be planted on the site along with um threeuous trees. Uh we are

[35:59] proposing removal of two trees that are on the site that are in uh rather poor

[36:03] condition.

[36:26] So the uh just backtrack a little bit. The gazebo at the front of the house is

[36:31] what is presenting the 66.3 foot front yard setback. Correct.

[36:36] » Right. You you could see if you if you flipped the gazebo 180 degrees, you'd

[36:40] comply with the front setback, but you you'd lose that aesthetic of the as

[36:45] you'll see from the architect's plan. It's a different look. And also the

[36:48] front of the porch is slightly non-compliant at 74.8

[36:54] feet. >> Now 75 is is uh wild is just behind the

[37:01] 75 >> porch step comes out sticks out empty.

[37:06] So majority of the the facade of the porch

[37:12] step comes forward. >> Okay.

[37:16] Want to be clear what exactly is in front of the setback line for purposes

[37:21] determining the relief here. >> Yeah. So, as far as the expansion, it's

[37:24] it's the gazebo portion that's that's coming forward.

[37:27] » That's what's driving. Okay. Thank you.

[37:35] » I'm a little confused. I'm sorry. um in your

[37:40] existing lot coverage tabulation drive and curve as 2935

[37:47] and then

[37:51] but if I'm looking at the plans actually have reconstructed and then you

[37:57] have a new pavement section now that decreases in some

[38:03] » well the the overall reduction to the driveway results the net decrease of the

[38:08] the dry belt. So, what we're taking out is larger than that portion that we're

[38:12] adding. >> Where are you? I'm sorry. Where are you?

[38:18] » Open open the thing. And you can see where the red is.

[38:23] » Okay. That was all driveway before. Okay. Got it.

[38:25] » Oh, yeah. That also audes

[38:32] neighboring property. So, we're pulling that back uh to a conforming uh spot.

[38:40] » The proposed pergola also um I don't want to flip through the pages. Um what

[38:45] is the pergola over? >> Uh it's it's over uh this existing patio

[38:51] now. Uh and that patio would be reconstructed.

[38:54] We need to just alter it for construction purposes. And is that um

[38:59] open decking or is it um also like a stone patio? Is it PA patio?

[39:05] » Yeah, it's it's a solid hardcape patio. >> Solid hardcape. Okay.

[39:11] » And the pergola is retractable. >> I believe it's like an open solid

[39:16] structure. Open roof. Okay. >> Slats sort of a

[39:24] concrete slab.

[39:28] Well, it would be over the the patio. Yeah. Yeah.

[39:41] Um, did you see anything else that you could reduce the pavers around the the

[39:47] pool?

[39:51] » Uh, I we had a conversation at the state. Um there was an area of

[39:57] um this pool surround um kind of the to the right

[40:02] uh at the right rear corner of the house where we thought we could probably clip

[40:05] off three or four feet. Um but we really didn't think that

[40:11] it would be worth cutting patio and altering it.

[40:15] » Out of curiosity, the uh the play area in the rear yard, does that area count

[40:21] as lock coverage? And that's a question in all the

[40:35] Yeah, I counted the the tie walls around it, not the

[40:39] » not the mulch. Okay. Just wanted to be clear if that's driving the number at

[40:43] all. Okay.

[40:49] evidence of a current water mitigation system in the house adding new

[40:56] uh the roof trains to the rear of the house do go underground. Um I'm not sure

[41:01] um exactly where they terminate the Jennings. So they did some type of

[41:05] modification to it. Uh that's why we we took all of the roofs that that had no

[41:10] piping that were discharging onto the ground. We took them and are bringing

[41:15] that into our drywall system now. The front and the right side.

[41:20] » We're abandoning the existing under. >> No, that would continue.

[41:24] » That stays. But that's just the existing part of the house. And then

[41:29] » uh it's the it's the rear rear of the house. The front existing portion didn't

[41:33] have any um wasn't tied into that system.

[41:41] Quinn, do you want to um want to touch on anything in your report?

[41:49] » My report I have a report dated

[41:54] » September 2nd, 2020.

[42:14] I noted that the

[42:19] th000 square feet in exit they're proposing an underground

[42:36] that area can come out.

[42:41] » Okay. I have 18. I I have 234 square feet

[42:53] per

[43:31] But it's something that I noticed

[44:10] So, so let me ask you, if the property is really flat in the back, um, what do

[44:15] you do as far as storm water?

[44:41] Yeah, the only the only area that I had concern with was right where the

[44:44] existing patio was. They put it up next to the house flat. So we might want to

[44:48] add a barrier a curb or something in there.

[45:16] effective improve. >> And then I know you mentioned that the

[45:21] roof drains are all going to the um to the dry well. Correct. Everything is

[45:25] going to the dry well and the existing system.

[45:28] » Um do we have any inlets in the back that's collecting water that's bringing

[45:31] it to the dry well? Is there any need for that? It's all running properly

[45:35] where it needs to go in your opinion.

[46:03] didn't see a door. You know, we walked the whole site during the survey and

[46:07] don't know where it is. >> So, what they'll end up doing is what

[46:09] they're showing now

[46:14] property line.

[46:19] But a lot of the new impervious coverage is sort of going to the back corner of

[46:23] the house opposite so opposite the drywall. Is there any any concern in

[46:29] that area but adding additional impervious coverage in an area? So now I

[46:33] feel like it all has to flow around the house to the front and

[46:37] » Okay.

[47:02] They're improving the situation >> driveway pulling the driveway off the

[47:06] property like they're doing as a

[47:12] » you have any issue with Mr. um Mr. Quinn's comments in his letter. You can

[47:16] stipulate to all >> No problem at all.

[47:21] » I'm sorry. Did you >> Oh, no. No. Okay.

[47:27] My review memo dated uh September

[47:35] number one talks about the setbacks which we already reviewed

[47:39] variance.

[47:44] applicant realizes that if the board does approve the

[47:48] proposal, the uh the porch and the gazebo, that would have to remain open.

[47:59] Number three mentions the property is about 2,000 square feet now and looking

[48:05] at aerials going back many years. Mentally both the patio and the driveway

[48:12] were added and expanded over the years. Been there before 198

[48:20] coverage ordinance, but it looks like that

[48:27] or so and then things start

[48:35] five and six just provides numbers regarding the coverage.

[48:40] Comment number seven talks about the trees. Two trees are coming down and and

[48:44] 19 trees are

[48:50] the house. >> Yes. For

[48:54] Yes.

[48:57] Coming in number eight, if there's going to be any exterior lighting, uh

[49:05] downward shielded.

[49:09] » Yes, of course. Comment number nine talks about partial

[49:14] demolition and

[49:20] » certainly partial demolition as is presented

[49:25] partial demolition and then when they get into it they find that oh we got to

[49:29] take

[49:32] take it too far to the point where the zone

[49:39] partial demolition structure, then you'd need more variances than you

[49:44] would partial destruction.

[49:51] » I'll let the architect address. I I know the house is gutted now, so I guess it's

[49:55] it's kind of prepped for for work, so you know, there's no

[50:00] um I'll let the architect touch it. Yeah.

[50:07] 11 deal with storm water and soil erosion

[50:11] of the um environmental commission's.

[50:17] » Yeah, I read through that. >> Sure.

[50:22] » Yes.

[50:26] » Thank you, Mr. Sly. Um we also had the um the um environmental commission's

[50:34] letter. Did you have a chance to look at that as well?

[50:38] » I did. Um we we discussed that we'd be changing the void ratio uh as requested.

[50:43] That's their comment three. Um

[50:48] with respect to how we came up with the 1840 square feet, uh that's their

[50:52] comment too. So that's basically the roof surface area that I can easily

[50:56] bring uh towards the drywall from from the front of the house and the right

[51:00] side of the house. >> Okay.

[51:02] um >> talked about the uh pool surface and the

[51:07] drywall calculations and you'll work that out through um the engineering

[51:12] department. >> Yes. And we'll certainly um utilize the

[51:16] native species for any plant things that are proposed there

[51:29] » locked up. Is it flowing? >> I have not Uh, you know, I I guess I'd

[51:33] have to ask the Jennings if they've noticed that it it hasn't been

[51:36] functioning. I think I have a note on the plan that it's the responsibility of

[51:39] the of the contractor to to investigate it. You know, if he's tying anything

[51:44] into it to ensure that it's functional, but I don't have any information on it.

[51:48] I just know it goes underground and I can't find the termination.

[51:53] No, nothing.

[52:00] You know, unless it's just a buried if they put a dry oil in and just buried

[52:04] it. I don't know. >> Can we do a stipulation that the note

[52:08] has to be on the plan? And the note for the Yeah, the note that the

[52:14] contractor has to check to make sure that there's a system that's either

[52:18] working or tied into the drywall that's proposed. Would the drywall have to then

[52:22] increase in size?

[52:53] Yeah, we have that. >> We can do that. Yeah. The only reason I

[52:57] didn't really do that was, you know, I didn't want to get into cutting the the

[53:02] patio and putting piping under the driveway, so I kind of isolated my work

[53:06] to the front end.

[53:10] » Yeah. Okay.

[53:21] Oh yes.

[53:26] » Okay. >> And then would the drywall have to

[53:28] increase or that that size and number is going to be worked out with the

[53:32] engineering department? >> He's got now is probably larger.

[53:38] » Okay.

[53:44] house that's equivalent to that area.

[53:52] » We're going to make sure you don't have a problem.

[54:00] Oh, that's like a step above what you're saying.

[54:14] I was just going to tell them to grab an area of roof

[54:21] that to the new drywall happening in the back drywall area. They

[54:25] don't have to touch how it works. We don't know how big it

[54:30] sized if it was even formal. They just grab enough roof area, some

[54:35] which may go to the back that they can just

[54:40] then we know they've grabbed enough roof area.

[54:48] Otherwise, we're going to have them find out what's back there. See what's back

[54:51] there. Size what's back there. Is that still working?

[54:57] » But if the back if the existing one isn't working, aren't they going to have

[55:01] water backing up? have water backing up now at some point,

[55:06] right? That's why I'm saying there must be, however, whatever they've got back

[55:09] there, water must be directed to the front.

[55:15] All I'm concerned about is

[55:23] that means grabbing some of the existing house. So,

[55:30] » no, no, I agree, but I'm looking at this as so it's it's not entirely ground up

[55:35] new construction obviously but um do you think that you can you can meet

[55:42] » so that's the intent of what we were what we were proposing is exactly what I

[55:46] just indicated and what sections of the roof you're taking

[55:48] » okay >> trying to avoid whatever's out there now

[55:52] and assessing it and we don't need to do that if

[55:56] » Right. Yeah. Yes. So you're good with that?

[56:00] » Yep. Yes. >> Okay. Does anybody have any questions

[56:03] for Mr. Scott? Does anybody from the public have any

[56:08] questions for this witness? >> Questions? Not comments, just questions?

[56:15] Okay. Um, >> any questions for uh

[56:24] I didn't

[56:28] » Okay. Thank you, Mr. Scott. Mr. Welsh, you want to come up to the

[56:32] podium? >> Hi.

[56:35] » Not my first time over here. My name is Ivon Welish. I'm a licensed architect in

[56:40] the state of New Jersey since 2000 and I've been building in Bask

[56:48] a long time. Well over 150 houses. I've been here before twice and um

[56:57] open any questions. Should I >> licenses are current and in good

[57:01] standing, sir? Okay. >> Condition and sorry,

[57:06] » that's okay. We'll accept you as an expert. Um, do you want to tell us about

[57:10] your design? >> Um, to touch a little bit of what the

[57:16] engineer had said, we are pretty much keeping almost everything what we have

[57:22] in the plans themselves. Whatever you see in dash lines is what walls that we

[57:27] dig out. whatever is back. The floor plan is very easy to um you

[57:34] know do one and the other um we are increasing the overall area of the house

[57:40] by about 1314 ft to 413 ft altogether. That's living space only

[57:48] first and second floor not including the basement attic is not being used. Um

[57:55] what we try to do is simply have a very modern upto-ate

[58:01] colonian if you will. You can still use these ancient words. New sighting, new

[58:08] windows, new roof, new homes, everything. So from the outside it will

[58:12] look like a brand new house. We're adding a garage as you know. And we're

[58:17] also heading a cover cl in the back of our heartscape

[58:23] hoping. We are also putting the zero. That was a special request from the

[58:28] owner. They love it. They love it too. I understand that it's over the subject by

[58:34] 8.7 ft. But I believe it really will add a lot to the way that the house looks.

[58:41] The house is like turning a little bit to the left. that puts it back

[58:46] kind of an equal. You look from the road, the cur is on. Of course, we could

[58:53] push it to the back. We really loses, but the zippers usually they are in the

[58:58] front a little bit more in the main body of the house. Um, we don't have to put a

[59:05] railing on the on the uh, but on the zipper, it's more than 30 in

[59:10] in a few spots. So, we do have to and open the hook is open. It's like a It's

[59:16] like a dance stand, if you will. It's open all sides, front, back, to sides.

[59:24] Uh the roof is a little bit steeper than what it was before, and that will help

[59:29] us with the water situation. It doesn't go over the height restriction of the

[59:34] house. Description of the house itself, it was

[59:37] a four bedroomedroom. Uh it's going to be six bedroom

[59:42] my department. I know that they want to have more kids. So they told me uh that

[59:49] also the inner plan of the house itself is a lot better

[59:54] than it was before whatever whoever did it before. I'm not

[59:58] criticizing it, but back and now it's pretty much family

[1:00:07] dinette kitchen in the back overlooking the backyard which is really nice. Big

[1:00:13] windows actually big windows all over the house. All the windows are going to

[1:00:17] be new. All the trim is going to be new. Going to use part siding, no vinyl, no

[1:00:23] wood is going to be practically zero. And also the

[1:00:32] questions. >> How many rooms does the current house or

[1:00:35] the existing house have? How many bedrooms?

[1:00:38] » Four. >> Four. So, it's going from four to six.

[1:00:41] And then bathrooms are >> like six bathrooms, seven bathrooms,

[1:00:44] something like that. >> Uh, five.

[1:00:46] » Five bathrooms. >> Five and a half.

[1:00:48] » Okay. In the basement. Okay. >> No. No. Half

[1:00:51] » half in the basement. Okay. You think this house is current state or new state

[1:00:58] characteristic of the neighborhood? Like our houses in the neighborhood this big

[1:01:01] or as big as you're building it to or are there newer houses, older houses

[1:01:07] » in basket? It's an average plus house.

[1:01:13] I did Sherbrook and Ravenswood perfect. And Ravenwood is all bigger, much bigger

[1:01:20] than these. this sorry wood is pretty much it depends excuse me but

[1:01:26] » in this on this block I'm saying >> oh is it no

[1:01:30] » it's not characteristic >> the house on the block is no different

[1:01:33] than the other >> I'm sorry um maybe I'm asking the

[1:01:36] question wrong the other houses on the block if you look at the map are they as

[1:01:41] large as this house are they older houses that haven't been redone or

[1:01:45] » I'm not sure the by square footage I don't know exactly other houses are, but

[1:01:52] they look pretty much the same. >> Okay,

[1:01:54] » I agree that this house looks wider, which is

[1:01:59] gives it more width. We made sure that the garage, the new garage was to the

[1:02:04] back, not the side. Also gave the engineer more room to shrink it because

[1:02:10] we knew the problem with the size of the Imperial is not the house itself. So,

[1:02:20] And it's going to be for like 40 >> 4113

[1:02:26] » was the house. >> Uh it was

[1:02:28] » what is the current house?

[1:02:34] » It was 2817 and now it's 4131. Sorry, not 1331.

[1:02:40] The difference is 1314. >> 3113 is

[1:02:45] » No, no. Right now it's going to be 4131. I'm sorry. Too many

[1:02:50] » 31 >> and it was 28 2817. It's actually all on

[1:02:54] the plan to go to get it. >> No

[1:03:00] living space.

[1:03:04] Uh I don't know about how much >> Can you speak to the new walkway and the

[1:03:10] driveway and what you're doing with that?

[1:03:12] » That's more the engineer. >> Oh, that's more the engineer. Okay.

[1:03:16] » Put the garage as much as we can to the back to make the impact of the driver

[1:03:21] lesser. >> Okay.

[1:03:22] » Cuz they still have the room to make the turn and so they don't have to

[1:03:27] » Gotcha. Okay. >> We knew from day one that this would be

[1:03:31] the main hurdle this house. Most of it is something that somebody

[1:03:36] else did years ago and not sure why and how.

[1:03:43] got a couple housekeeping questions for us. Sure.

[1:03:45] » Uh the plan said that you have on the easel over there, that's your plans that

[1:03:49] are dated May 13th of 2026, correct? Okay.

[1:03:52] » Same plan. >> Gotcha. Just making sure the dates line

[1:03:54] up. And then uh the photographs that we got, did you take these?

[1:03:57] » I took that the day I measured it. >> Okay. And that was in uh May 14th, 2026.

[1:04:03] » Oh my god. >> Okay. And these photographs accurately

[1:04:06] reflect what the house looks like in its current condition?

[1:04:09] » Yes, it does. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate

[1:04:13] » you're adding three additional bathrooms.

[1:04:15] » Yes. >> Did that necessitate any changes to the

[1:04:18] sewage infrastructure? >> No. Normally it does only if you have a

[1:04:23] septic. Then sometimes you have to change the septic. But here it's all

[1:04:27] sewer up city sewer. So we don't have a problem with it. In other words, the

[1:04:32] system accepts

[1:04:36] » attic clean on here. >> There is no attic clean. So

[1:04:40] » we never do addict >> everything. Okay. Is there what is there

[1:04:43] access into this attic? >> Yes, you have to have an access pool

[1:04:46] downstairs. >> Pull downstairs.

[1:04:47] » By law, you have to have it. If you have a room in the attic, you have to supply

[1:04:52] a plan. >> Nothing will be done over there except

[1:04:55] mechanics. >> Not it's not

[1:04:59] » not livable. >> Not enough head room where someone could

[1:05:01] come later and finish it.

[1:05:22] So, I'm I'm a little stuck because um I'm not certain it is in character with

[1:05:27] the neighborhood. Um, we're going much larger

[1:05:31] uh than the other houses and um the coverage is fairly significant.

[1:05:37] » I didn't say they're much bigger than the others. I don't know. But

[1:05:42] » looking at my experience with this town building here for the last 3

[1:05:48] four years, it's average maybe plus. >> So I don't disagree that it's in

[1:05:55] character with the township. The question is, is it in character with

[1:06:00] the neighboring properties? >> I believe it is.

[1:06:05] » Are there other houses? If you have a The last time I came here, it was many

[1:06:11] years ago. The customer wanted like a 4,200 foot

[1:06:15] and it was actually he was eligible for that. The whole neighborhood is between

[1:06:20] by the library

[1:06:24] and the whole neighborhood running was anywhere between 1700 to 20.

[1:06:31] The board said listen you're going to be like Taj Mahal in the middle of nowhere.

[1:06:35] So we had to even though it was within what the law the lot right could stand

[1:06:41] we had to clean it down. But here I don't think the difference if there is

[1:06:45] any is so big that it's really visible. I don't think so

[1:06:51] because if you take the house right now you look from the road the only real

[1:06:55] addition would be the gazebo not the house itself.

[1:06:58] » Yeah. The is the most of the additional coverage coming from the exterior and

[1:07:03] the patio and things like that or is it coming from the additional living space

[1:07:07] that you're putting on? The real addition to that would be the back where

[1:07:11] the kitchen is and where the new garage is.

[1:07:14] » I see >> that that's actually what what they see

[1:07:18] and I can see too they will need more than three threec car garage in the

[1:07:22] future. They're already big family and they're going to be even bigger than

[1:07:27] that. So and a three-car garage in this town is not unusual.

[1:07:36] Not aware of what the setback front yard setbacks are for any of the

[1:07:42] » pretty much the same as this one >> within the 75 give or take couple.

[1:07:50] » Let me rephrase of any other houses in the neighborhood

[1:07:53] that would have a 60 roughly 65 foot front yard setback.

[1:07:57] » No, I don't. And I want to reiterate that the only protrusion of that line is

[1:08:04] an open open

[1:08:10] » 6.3

[1:08:13] 8.7 ft into the front.

[1:08:19] » That with the exception front porch, the front of the house is not changing in

[1:08:25] size. all the additions. >> Very little

[1:08:27] » back rear corner. >> You're right. Very little.

[1:08:33] » I I I do believe that the addition of the porch really softens the house. When

[1:08:38] you look at it, you see a big wall. Now, it's going to be broken and with the

[1:08:42] columns, it's going to be segregated into pieces. So, high is not going

[1:08:46] anywhere too. But I'm not sure.

[1:08:52] guessing.

[1:08:55] » Yes.

[1:08:59] » Okay. Because it looks like a lot of the houses in that neighborhood.

[1:09:05] » Well, hopefully they're all going to become my clients.

[1:09:08] » Once they see this

[1:09:16] impact, isn't really that much. The back of the house is where the

[1:09:22] than the new facade. >> Isn't most of the square footage on the

[1:09:26] second floor that's being added here? >> Always like that. In most houses, the

[1:09:30] second floor is bigger than the first because you go over the garage.

[1:09:34] » Sure. Are there other houses on this street that have second floors?

[1:09:38] » I'm not sure what the square footage of the other houses is,

[1:09:41] » but it's almost always like that. The second floor is bigger than the first.

[1:09:46] » Or perhaps the Jennings now. >> Sorry.

[1:09:50] Please gota gotta come up. Got to get the audio.

[1:09:54] » During the time of us living here, lot three actually um got added a um

[1:09:59] addition to above their garage. So a caddy corner to our um home. There was

[1:10:05] construction in the past two to three years and they added an addition um and

[1:10:10] additionally five um two houses down has um about I would say bigger than ours. I

[1:10:17] don't actually have that confirmation, but it is a very large home on lot five

[1:10:20] and then lot four um next to us. So, I do know that both have um rooms above

[1:10:26] their and then and then we're added to while we live there. I don't know if

[1:10:32] that's helpful. >> Does anybody have a gazebo?

[1:10:38] » That's the first.

[1:10:45] » Yes, please. I have two things actually. Um so we

[1:10:49] actually um in 2021 we lost a home that we wanted to buy on Spencer Road and it

[1:10:54] had this beautiful book gazebo and it was ours and we were in attorney review

[1:10:56] and during the craziness of 2021 we were in attorney review and someone spooked

[1:11:00] it away. Um at the time my mom was alive and visited the home and it was what we

[1:11:06] were going to purchase. Um, since then my mom passed away of glyobblasto and so

[1:11:10] she was in our home. Sorry. Um, she was in our home um 178 Galving Hill and um,

[1:11:16] I grew up with a porch and it was one of those things that I always hoped that I

[1:11:20] would be able to do and um, so she is no longer with us but um, in the history of

[1:11:25] the house we almost had and loved and I had shown Mr.

[1:11:29] um the gazebo. Um and also in the you know honor of my mom personally um not

[1:11:35] to bring that in but it's the truth. I had said to him like if there's just any

[1:11:38] way that we feel like it wouldn't be such a um issue um could we at least try

[1:11:45] to see if that was possible. So that's a little bit of the personal side but also

[1:11:48] the craziness of the market when we were buying to hopefully be in this town. So,

[1:11:54] » ma'am, real quick, that the house you mentioned on Spencer is that anywhere

[1:11:58] close to this, I'm not familiar. >> Uh, Spencer Road, um, Calvin Hill and

[1:12:03] Lake Avenue connect Spencer. So, five minutes,

[1:12:09] » linear distance, >> several several miles,

[1:12:12] » a mile. >> Okay.

[1:12:15] » It's not within your neighborhood. That's okay.

[1:12:17] » No, it's in the town. It's a mile away. Yeah. No, sorry. But that was really

[1:12:21] where it came from. >> Okay. Um Mr. Welsh, I got a question for

[1:12:24] you. You're good now. Um hearing, you know, I'm hearing concerns

[1:12:29] from the board about the the gazebo. Is there any way to rotate that structure

[1:12:33] and push it further back into the property?

[1:12:37] » You can, of course. >> Okay.

[1:12:39] » I can't say no. >> But that's the setback issue, not the

[1:12:42] coverage issue. That wouldn't help. Like I don't think anyone's objecting to the

[1:12:45] setback. Like >> Okay.

[1:12:47] » I feel like board I don't know. I want you saying for deliberations.

[1:12:52] » Okay. Okay. >> I heard a lot of questions about I would

[1:12:55] want to say in most cases what you see is the coming more to the front.

[1:13:00] » I got you. I just >> and I understand it's I just want to see

[1:13:03] if that's a possibility. So then we won't be able to talk about it.

[1:13:05] » Anything is possible but I wouldn't do it for the way it's going to look. It's

[1:13:08] going to look like >> I got you. Okay.

[1:13:11] » Not not in place.

[1:13:15] It it actually is freestanding. The roof is not even connected. But the the the

[1:13:23] walkway is

[1:13:27] » connected. The roof would >> it's like that much apart. That's all.

[1:13:32] But physically it's not it. I would say wouldn't make my life easier if they are

[1:13:37] connected. So they're embracing and all that. But

[1:13:42] this is looking good. I think my opinion >> then I am going to go back then are is

[1:13:47] your concern uh with the gazebo character with the

[1:13:51] neighborhood or is your concern Miss Silver. Yeah.

[1:13:54] » Oh concern with the gazebo I have a concern

[1:13:58] with the coverage amount that they're requesting and so to me it's I'm

[1:14:01] indifferent to whether it's coming from the gazebo or their walkways or their

[1:14:05] patio or whatever. I just feel like the coverage amount is high and I don't have

[1:14:10] an issue with the setback is what I was saying because that's what's the gazebo

[1:14:15] turning this way or that way to me makes >> zero difference because I agree with him

[1:14:20] that aesthetically it probably looks better to come out towards the front and

[1:14:24] I don't have a problem with that but I don't know if other people have

[1:14:28] different Okay

[1:14:35] it's bigger

[1:14:38] for structure. >> Yeah.

[1:14:40] » If there's in the backyard, which typically they are, not in the front

[1:14:43] yard in most neighborhoods. I don't know exactly what you say,

[1:14:47] » Carl. I would disagree with that. I think there's many in my neighborhood

[1:14:51] that have this exact design that I'm just I'm just saying.

[1:14:54] » I haven't seen, let's just say, I haven't seen a lot in the front yard.

[1:14:57] So, that's all I'm saying. >> Yeah. I mean, I I'm just saying I don't

[1:15:01] to me that part is not the issue. It's just the impervious coverage.

[1:15:07] » Can I ask a question? Does is anyone concerned about the setback related to

[1:15:11] the gaze? >> I want to be clear. All right. I thought

[1:15:15] that might have been a concern based on

[1:15:22] » uh but I would agree that I have a concern with the width of the house

[1:15:26] because it's already getting bigger. Um, I understand that most of the addition

[1:15:30] is going to the back of the house and I do understand that there's an

[1:15:33] improvement with pulling the driveway away from the property line. Um, so I

[1:15:40] see some benefits here. Um, but I'm concerned with the character of the

[1:15:46] neighborhood as we're going up in size and then creating an element that's sort

[1:15:51] of um very different from what this neighborhood has.

[1:15:59] Um, I I mean I I don't see that as a problem

[1:16:05] actually. I really don't. I mean I think eventually since these all these homes

[1:16:11] were built so many decades ago. I think in the next 30 years they're all going

[1:16:15] to be renovated because um as you said you said it yourself. I want to stay

[1:16:20] here for 20 years. Let's be honest. They all move in. Not all, but most move in,

[1:16:26] stay for 20 to 25 years, get that education.

[1:16:31] Okay? New families come in, they renovate.

[1:16:35] It's happening in the hills now over and over. So, I I think they're just the

[1:16:41] first of many. That's how I look. >> I agree to what you're saying, and it

[1:16:45] happened to me many times. Elephants like that. You do the first house and

[1:16:49] then everybody, I never thought about that. Maybe I should do something, too.

[1:16:53] Then I get phone calls 30, 45 years old, 30 years old and see

[1:17:00] it comes in waves. One starts and the other one starts and

[1:17:05] the other one in the next rate starts and then within 10 years everything

[1:17:08] looks a lot better. >> Also

[1:17:12] » just my also our taste changes and you right

[1:17:15] » this could be this is a a fully sided house. Good. But now the sighting is

[1:17:21] going to be different and we're going to have a skirt of stone on the bottom to

[1:17:24] prevent hydration. I'm sure you know what it is. Brown on the bottom and so

[1:17:28] on. We are using very similar materials but better.

[1:17:34] People know, oh, I don't have to build a new house. All I have to do is just I

[1:17:39] don't want to say gingerbread it but yes, gingerbread it and do this a little

[1:17:43] bit, that a little bit and it's okay. All we're doing bringing it few steps

[1:17:48] forward without making a monster. >> So, why don't we bring this back? Um,

[1:17:53] does anybody else have any questions for Mr. Wellish?

[1:17:57] Um, Mr. Quinn, did you have any questions for Mr. Wellish?

[1:18:03] » No. And Mr. Schlly, >> question.

[1:18:05] » Do you have any further questions?

[1:18:17] The roof is within the high limit if that's

[1:18:20] » the engineer defraction

[1:18:24] question. >> That's what it was.

[1:18:26] » Um that point, Mr. Welsh.

[1:18:31] » Any more of the house going to need to be torn down?

[1:18:35] not going to be thrown down. >> Not going to exceed partial.

[1:18:38] » Not at all. >> We're using most of it.

[1:18:43] » Okay. >> I can't say percent 80 85 87 but most of

[1:18:47] it. >> You don't foresee any more demolition to

[1:18:49] the existing structure? >> Not more than what I show.

[1:18:53] » Uh so earlier Mr. Wellish um Mr. Soies was asking about the pictures and I saw

[1:18:59] um somebody who appears to be with you shaking her head yes and you shaking

[1:19:03] your head no that you did not >> I wasn't sure who took the picture but

[1:19:06] it's me >> that you did take these pictures um do

[1:19:09] you know when you took these pictures >> in the winter I can't say exactly what

[1:19:12] day >> I can find out but it's not like

[1:19:18] » I asked you about him before you said >> yeah it was May May something like that

[1:19:24] » May 14th 2020 on

[1:19:37] uh no the reason I was asking he was shaking his head no

[1:19:41] » I just wanted to be sure we had the right answer to the

[1:19:52] » looks like the the back right corner

[1:20:00] by 10 to each side of the existing. Okay.

[1:20:05] » What's the question? >> I'm looking at drawing A3 and looking at

[1:20:08] the framing plan.

[1:20:12] » Showing 2x10 floor joist at 16, but are existing. Is that what

[1:20:19] » those are all existing? Okay. And you're just supplementing those in the back

[1:20:22] right corner. >> Okay. All right. I

[1:20:34] So um then I'm going to ask the question um when we look at imperous coverage we

[1:20:40] consider both water um how the water is being um managed and we look at mass

[1:20:48] with the gazebo we're adding a little bit of mass not saying you have to get

[1:20:52] rid of the gazebo but if we're looking at impervious coverage that's excessive.

[1:20:57] Um, and not that you're over 20%, but you are, you know, almost 5% over,

[1:21:03] right, in impervious coverage. Um, plus we have some additional mass. So, I

[1:21:09] would ask the question, is there anywhere do you that you feel you could

[1:21:13] cut back on imperous coverage?

[1:21:18] walked the property um with both of the uh people that we hired, both the

[1:21:23] architect and the engineer. And one of the um areas that we looked to move was

[1:21:27] actually around the pool. And because we have three young kids, when we moved in

[1:21:31] um they did not have young children, we had a fresh company put one of those

[1:21:34] fences like right near the pool. So when we were looking at that, that fence is

[1:21:38] not going anywhere. We have a four-year-old, a three-year-old, and a

[1:21:40] four-month-old. So, when we were looking at places where the around the pool

[1:21:44] technically I think um could come in because we have the fence as a safety

[1:21:49] element, it it it's not something that's going to be there for the next two to

[1:21:53] three years. So, I think we could probably relook at that instead of

[1:21:55] getting rid of the porch if we had to, but it it does it does make it a little

[1:22:00] bit more challenging because we have, you know, the fence around our property

[1:22:03] as well as the safety fence right directly near the shape of the pool. So,

[1:22:07] we were trying to find areas where it would even make sense like to not have

[1:22:11] grass right into a fence, right into a pool. Do you see what I'm saying? So, I

[1:22:14] just wanted to mention that that that was a little bit challenging because of

[1:22:18] our safety element we had put on. But I >> What about the size of the patio?

[1:22:24] There's like a patio that's not part of the pool, right? There's like a hardcape

[1:22:28] area >> that's actually going to become house.

[1:22:31] So, that's >> Oh, that's becoming house.

[1:22:33] » Yeah. So that's why I was saying like getting rid of some of that patio is

[1:22:37] actually going to have structure on it. >> I see.

[1:22:39] » Is ultimately going to be smaller. >> It's already going to be small.

[1:22:43] » Yeah. >> Yeah. That that's that's really the main

[1:22:46] driver around you know chopping back that driveway. I mean do love, you know,

[1:22:51] being able to pull cars off to the side. We really do

[1:22:56] by by kind of giving that up and and presenting this as

[1:23:12] Yeah, >> I'm worried about three kids in vehicles

[1:23:15] and us. Look, I'm I'm worried about five cars eventually. But yeah, I think if

[1:23:18] that was going to win us what we've got going, we could probably look at it. But

[1:23:22] I'm thinking about 15 years from now.

[1:23:35] other than your house. The only area,

[1:23:48] » right?

[1:23:51] And I'm just concerned of the We have a large family. We have large SUVs pulling

[1:23:58] out of the garage and really

[1:24:05] Yeah. I mean, the two

[1:24:23] because we're struggling to try to come up with some

[1:24:29] how much of that would be significant. I I was looking at the number. If you do

[1:24:35] like 250 square feet,

[1:24:41] » getting them closer to 19 than 20 though,

[1:24:44] » which I feel like we would be more comfortable. I don't know about everyone

[1:24:47] else, but I don't like being at 20. >> Keep in mind, they're already less than

[1:24:51] what they started with. they are, you know, and and I appreciate that it was

[1:24:55] over, but we don't even know how it got over and if anything was ever previously

[1:25:00] Let the applicant continue to um look at possibilities here. Um I think Miss

[1:25:06] Silver has a valid point. Um I understand that they're they've

[1:25:12] like to I'd like to explore this a little bit further.

[1:25:19] » Talk about giving it a

[1:25:25] That would work for me.

[1:25:29] » I have a an attorney level idea.

[1:25:34] » Those are always valuable. >> So, the twotory garage edition

[1:25:39] comes off the side of the house by seven and 3/4 feet.

[1:25:46] I know this probably requires some extensive revisions, but could you like

[1:25:49] shift that so it's flush with the existing

[1:25:53] side of the house. That would reduce the massing, but also reduce the uh

[1:25:58] amount of coverage. I know it' be an extensive rework, but I'm just trying to

[1:26:01] think of how you can trim down some coverage and reduce the massing. That's

[1:26:04] what I'm hearing.

[1:26:09] Drop it off here.

[1:26:13] » Is less than 18.

[1:26:19] Um, but I I but but you have also goes here. I see. So it's it's a staggered.

[1:26:24] That's what I'm saying. If you if you moved it over a little bit more,

[1:26:27] » you have you have an existing garage, right? If you just lined it up with the

[1:26:30] existing bays.

[1:26:34] » I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility. You know, that's I don't

[1:26:37] think it's deep enough. I would I I like the idea and we've done it in the past

[1:26:42] of giving a percentage that the board is comfortable with and then you guys are

[1:26:48] free to figure out what works within that number and what doesn't. Um we

[1:26:52] don't want to design for you. Uh you know the suggestions are are meant

[1:26:57] absolutely in goodwill to try to help figure it out but ultimately it comes

[1:27:01] down to your decision. um you know there's a lot of there are a lot of

[1:27:06] pavers there's a lot of pavement um and there's some additional buildings so

[1:27:12] a number that the board is comfortable with

[1:27:17] so 4% over I think the I think are we typin within 4%

[1:27:26] » now they do have a slightly undersized lot

[1:27:30] » really lot 18.96

[1:27:39] » the lot size is the lot size and and it all looks pretty uniform to me when I'm

[1:27:44] looking at the areials

[1:27:52] » 19% that gives them 7915

[1:28:00] out 32

[1:28:11] If they if they cut

[1:28:21] I'm I look at I look at taking about about 250 or 300

[1:28:26] bump out get you close to 191 around that area. I

[1:28:32] don't know exactly how closer to 19. >> Can I just ask you to consider that when

[1:28:37] we purchased the house, the previous owners lived there a really long time

[1:28:39] and I I'm under the impression that when the driveway was put in right at the

[1:28:43] property line, it wasn't necessarily something they asked to do. So, I just

[1:28:46] like I think it's something that personal side you get used to. And so,

[1:28:52] obviously, our house burned down like we did not inherit $10 million to do this

[1:28:55] renovation and like, you know, make our new design. So, I just I just want to go

[1:28:59] back to like the original time I stood here and said like we're trying to make

[1:29:02] lemonade from lemons and we want to comply as as well, but I think like

[1:29:06] coming into this like we came into the property with it over without knowing.

[1:29:11] So, we're trying to also take that into consideration.

[1:29:36] 19 and a half. >> 19.

[1:29:41] » The um the area that you're talking about wouldn't cause any problems for

[1:29:46] trucks backing out and >> Well, I mean

[1:29:50] have

[1:30:00] our kids about 15 years from now, you're not

[1:30:05] going to have enough black. >> Right. Understood.

[1:30:10] » Three car garage.

[1:30:25] Take out those. Uh not going to get you much, but it might

[1:30:29] be.

[1:30:50] I'm just concerned about the safety of the pool. No, I just

[1:30:53] » wanted to be safe, but I

[1:31:06] there's a lot of pa between the house and the the pool itself. So, I see I

[1:31:13] think I see where the fence is. It's not on

[1:31:16] block wall. Assume the fence there. >> I think she's referring to

[1:31:30] And that got >> 100 ft. What does that get you to? 19.4.

[1:32:00] I'm just a little skeptical of the patio. I'm willing to go on the

[1:32:03] driveway. I'm just a little skeptical on the patio, but I just am concerned about

[1:32:07] the us having to give enough to meet a percentage of a number that then impedes

[1:32:12] kind of closer to the garage than even the the

[1:32:16] new portion of the driveway would would stick out. It obviously can't go further

[1:32:21] than than that. Um, and is that enough square footage to

[1:32:34] professionals don't have

[1:32:41] » they will

[1:32:46] sure >> sure

[1:32:55] uh let's take a fivem minute break. Why don't we do that? You don't want to run

[1:32:58] into >> You're in recess.

[1:33:02] currently in recess at 9:02.

[1:43:18] All right.

[1:43:33] Um okay. Yes. So after speaking with my architect, my engineer, we believe we

[1:43:37] can previous coverage uh by taking out

[1:43:43] driveway narrowing the walkways in the front and

[1:43:47] the back.

[1:43:51] That would that would get you guys to 19 >> that if that's what 300 reduced

[1:43:59] » 19.13 was the number you said. >> Okay.

[1:44:02] » Yes. >> We were willing to give them the benefit

[1:44:04] of rounding up. >> Yeah, I think that's

[1:44:10] » all right. Lot of lot of conversation here.

[1:44:13] » All right. 19.13.

[1:44:27] » Yeah, I'm okay with that.

[1:44:52] Anybody

[1:45:20] from the public?

[1:45:34] Yeah, let's do let's do that.

[1:45:52] Go ahead and open up to the public.

[1:46:11] Hi, my name is Michael McName. I uh I live next door at 172 Galloping Hill

[1:46:18] Road. >> Want me to spell?

[1:46:26] » We're confirm that the testimony you're about to provide to be the truth, the

[1:46:29] whole truth. >> Yes. Uh, spell your last name for me,

[1:46:32] Mr. >> Mcnammy. MC Capital N like in Nancy. A M

[1:46:38] like in Mary. E E two E's at the end. >> Would you mind just turning the mic up?

[1:46:44] Just

[1:46:48] » Michael McName

[1:46:53] step back because the the audio is getting like

[1:46:58] » into it. Okay.

[1:47:02] » Okay. I'm sorry. >> Micro Yeah, the microphone's very

[1:47:04] sensitive. We just got to make sure the audience pick up back.

[1:47:08] Uh re reason I'm here is uh we live next door and uh in in looking at the the

[1:47:15] plans for for what's to be done on the um existing conditions survey we

[1:47:22] uncovered that we believe that there's an encroachment

[1:47:27] um some of which is being corrected by the removal of the impervious

[1:47:33] uh coverage in the driveways.

[1:47:38] Um, at that point it's only a couple of inches. Uh, as you go to the back

[1:47:44] there's a fence, a Rhode Island type fence running along the a border that

[1:47:51] appears using the um the graphic scale here. It appears to be encroaching as as

[1:47:58] much as three feet at the far end. It's a pie shape, very skinny pie shape.

[1:48:03] We're talking about the lower right corner here, the the southoutheast

[1:48:07] corner of the property.

[1:48:11] On on the right, yes. And um we're our concern is that we

[1:48:18] would end up in adverse possession situation at some point down the road.

[1:48:23] I'm surprised that when they bought the property, that didn't come up in their

[1:48:27] survey. Um but we would like that corrected.

[1:48:34] question for um does the fence

[1:48:40] variance of the fence right being >> if you look on on on

[1:48:44] » sorry I'm not asking you ask >> I'm sorry

[1:48:47] » not to be Dave fence needs to obviously be on the propert is is there a very

[1:48:52] like an ordinance requirement that states

[1:48:54] » binches is a setback for a fence >> okay so technically they're have a

[1:48:57] non-conforming fence then that Well, they have a non-conforming fence

[1:49:04] uh

[1:49:07] » property. It's not like >> I understand from from a zoning board

[1:49:10] perspective because at the end of the day,

[1:49:14] » if you look at the scale there and and the back end of the property, you'll see

[1:49:19] there's I think it's two or three feet. >> Understood, sir. At the end of the day,

[1:49:24] that would be a dispute between you and the property owner. That's not really

[1:49:26] for this kind of outside of our jurisdiction.

[1:49:29] They are going to be moving parts of defense out front.

[1:49:34] » Okay. But they're not touching >> not touching it back there. No. So I got

[1:49:38] to I got to lawyers. Okay. >> I'm not saying that. I'm just saying in

[1:49:41] general that's not something that we have a lot of control over.

[1:49:47] » Applicant would be

[1:49:52] » I'm sorry.

[1:49:56] Yeah.

[1:50:02] » Okay. >> Thank you.

[1:50:03] » All right.

[1:50:09] » Jennings, would you mind coming back up real quick just to address that? So, I

[1:50:14] correct me if I'm wrong, sir. I think I heard you state that you guys would

[1:50:16] agree to relocate that fence off of uh the Mcamese property.

[1:50:21] » Correct. And just to clarify, can't be on the property line at six inches.

[1:50:25] Yeah, you you'll need to apply for a permit for it.

[1:50:28] » Uh

[1:50:35] want this uh

[1:50:41] fence to uhed and approved as a pool fence.

[1:50:52] There's got to be six inches.

[1:51:04] Okay. All right. Well, you're agreeing to relocate it to a conforming location

[1:51:08] on your property. Varants needed.

[1:51:34] Um, okay. Applicants here are seeking two berries.

[1:51:39] house. Uh

[1:51:43] 74.8 ft for the front step and the porch. 75 ft is required. We're also

[1:51:48] proposing a lot coverage ratio of 19

[1:52:27] mic isn't on. Does anybody want to kick us off? Does anybody have any thoughts?

[1:52:34] » Uh person like I drove this neighborhood and it looks

[1:52:39] like a neighborhood that was built developers kind of a neighborhood

[1:52:45] all have a similar pattern to them. While this will not any longer be

[1:52:50] exactly the same as the houses in that neighborhood,

[1:52:55] someone has to be first if people want to renovate neighborhood. So, I

[1:52:59] personally have no issue with the change in house. I think it's going to add to

[1:53:05] the neighborhood. I think I love front porches. I think dress the neighborhood

[1:53:09] up and I think it's going to inspire other people to do

[1:53:16] problem with this. I the 19.2% lock.

[1:53:25] » Thank you, Miss Potar. Yeah, I I agree. I think I like the idea of how it does

[1:53:32] in fact change the front of the house. It gives it character. It adds variety

[1:53:40] when you're looking at the house. Um, I appreciate that aspect of it. To me,

[1:53:44] it's not just a cookie cutter kind of kind of thing, you know, which could be

[1:53:47] a re, you know, so I actually do appreciate it and uh I

[1:53:54] like what you guys are doing with it. Does anybody else have anything to add,

[1:53:59] thoughts?

[1:54:03] Um, so I was a little on the fence. Um, I appreciate very much that you um took

[1:54:10] another look and were able to to pull scale back just a little bit. Um, I do

[1:54:16] see some absolute improvements to the property here with what you're doing.

[1:54:20] You're pulling the um the the uh driveway back off of the property

[1:54:25] line. Um, you've agreed to fix the fence that you didn't even know was a problem.

[1:54:30] Um, uh, a lot of your improvements are in the rear of the house. So, again, you

[1:54:35] know, I'm not looking at it this as like it's some monster home. And I agree, the

[1:54:39] neighborhoods, you know, our neighborhoods need to turn over. Um, I

[1:54:44] was very much on the fence. I'm still a little bit on the fence with the gazebo.

[1:54:48] So, not because it's not lovely and it's meaningful to you. Um, for me, it's more

[1:54:54] is it in character with the neighborhood. I don't see a lot of

[1:54:56] gazeos in front yards of houses. So for me it's I'm a little challenged by it.

[1:55:03] Um but overall what I think you're doing is an improvement and overall what I

[1:55:07] think you're doing is lovely. So um again I appreciate everything that

[1:55:12] you've done here before us and um loved the addition of our little uh witness

[1:55:17] here this evening. Um uh but you know that's that's my

[1:55:23] thought. Um so does anybody here want to kick us off?

[1:55:28] Since I spoke, I guess I will. I I I think I would see this as a It's not not

[1:55:34] a seat except for the fact that the house was built before the current lock

[1:55:41] coverage restrictions were

[1:55:45] that purpose. I might say it's a for the most part, it's C2. It's

[1:55:50] improving the neighborhood. Um, and I think it's

[1:55:57] Um, so I would like to make a motion to deem the

[1:56:04] draft a resolution memorializ

[1:56:08] all the stated stipulations and conditions.

[1:56:14] Grant the relief requested by the >> Are we C1 or N C2 or just C2?

[1:56:22] » By humble legal opinion.

[1:56:27] Heard any good planning arguments?

[1:56:56] I I I got where you were going, but I wasn't 100% sure either. So, thank you,

[1:57:01] Mr. Soies. Do we have a second? I will >> Mr. Krauss. Do we have Miss Pear or Mr.

[1:57:07] Krauss?

[1:57:10] » Mr. Krauss? >> Yes.

[1:57:12] » Mr. Leazinski? >> Yes.

[1:57:14] » Mr. Lindamman? >> Yes.

[1:57:15] » Miss Pear? Miss Silver, >> yes.

[1:57:18] » Miss Chap, >> yes.

[1:57:19] » Chairwoman Bowman, >> I'm gonna say no. Um, simply because I'm

[1:57:25] just not sure about the character of the neighborhood. Um, please don't take

[1:57:29] offense. Um, but uh, you've passed and I wish you

[1:57:34] all the best.

[1:57:37] » Yes. Is it good? >> Thank you.

[1:57:49] near me. >> I want to I want to see your

[1:57:52] » see the ones near me. They're really nice.

[1:57:55] » Uh so next on our agenda is the completeness and public hearing for Sue

[1:58:00] uh Kan Sue um and Lee Pingi.

[1:58:06] Um and that is block 4103 lot 6 48

[1:58:11] conquered lane. Bulk variance is ZB26019.

[1:58:14] Did I say your names correctly? >> Yes.

[1:58:17] » Good. Thank you. Um, welcome. You are here joining us tonight

[1:58:24] uh for a one-story edition like to tell us a little bit about Hang

[1:58:30] on. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. >> Apologies. I'm like all over the place.

[1:58:34] » Switching gears here. Lot lot of papers. >> Okay. Um, I'll just quickly note the uh

[1:58:38] applicants did properly notice for this evening's hearing. All the content was

[1:58:41] good. It was timely served and published. Um, all the requisite content

[1:58:44] was included. So, the board has the jurisdiction to hear the case in my

[1:58:47] humble legal opinion. Um, applicants, we swear the two of you guys in as well.

[1:58:53] » All four of you swear or refer to the testimony provided with the truth. the

[1:58:56] whole

[1:59:10] my name is Chen Su uh 48 concord

[1:59:18] here. So uh you can see you can see from the map uh

[1:59:24] this is our house is 1962 I think the the the build. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:59:30] So so it's originally they have a onecar garage and a little bit bigger than one

[1:59:36] car then the other side like a storage room kind of like that that kind of

[1:59:40] thing. So we want to expand it to make it to fit the two become a twocar

[1:59:45] garage. So in order to do that we need to extend the length like 14 and a half

[1:59:52] feet along the driveway. So that make we uh request this variance to give us 40

[2:00:00] head back instead of 50

[2:00:05] here. So as you can see this is a corner lot. So what we we want to build

[2:00:11] actually the in the side lot because this corner lot. So it's considered as

[2:00:16] front yard. So that's that's created this.

[2:00:23] Okay. So um essentially we're looking at um

[2:00:29] 10 feet or

[2:00:33] the front yard setback right Mr. um Mr. Schlly

[2:00:38] 14.7 feet off. No sorry 10 feet. So they're existing as

[2:00:45] 14.7 and they're going to proposed at 40 ft. Uh so we're 10 ft off and the side

[2:00:51] yard set back um we're going down to four feet

[2:00:59] » for the shed.

[2:01:10] Um, so we have some pictures in our package.

[2:01:21] » Did you take those? Can you tell us who took those pictures?

[2:01:24] » You have copies? >> Yes.

[2:01:27] » Can use these if you want to.

[2:01:34] » And who took these pictures?

[2:01:39] too. And

[2:01:54] » why don't you just use the package the ones that are here?

[2:01:56] » Use these if you want and just show them. Yeah.

[2:01:59] » Yeah. And did you take You said you took these

[2:02:03] pictures. When did you take these pictures?

[2:02:08] couple of days before I submit the application. May or something.

[2:02:12] » Okay. So, about May. >> Yeah.

[2:02:15] » Of 2026. >> Yeah.

[2:02:22] » Um and I we're looking at the garage in the upper right hand picture.

[2:02:27] » Yeah.

[2:02:40] I could see.

[2:02:47] » So, all you're proposing really is to take this

[2:02:50] » Yeah. >> and create a

[2:02:51] » Yeah. Make it wider and >> bring it forward a little bit and create

[2:02:56] a twocar garage.

[2:03:04] you able to um look at Mr. Schlly's review memo?

[2:03:10] » Yeah. >> Um Mr. Schlly, do you want to walk us

[2:03:12] through your memo? >> Oh, it's dated September.

[2:03:23] One is is just corner lot

[2:03:28] house. um Aces Conquered Lane to the north which

[2:03:34] is primary front yard as opposed to the

[2:03:38] secondary front yard which is really the side of the house and uh functions in

[2:03:43] that way and that's the direction the applicant's proposing to

[2:03:49] house will effectively move 14

[2:03:54] back where 50

[2:03:58] Number three just requires a clarification on the architectural plans

[2:04:03] overhang that existsing. You're proposing to continue that along

[2:04:09] the new addition.

[2:04:15] » That's your proposal that >> front of the house.

[2:04:19] » Yes. But underneath there's no foundation. That's why I didn't put on

[2:04:23] the that uh all planned there.

[2:04:27] » Okay. But but you're willing so it's all >> higher front of the new

[2:04:37] » comment number four is just to clarify the dimensions of the of the shed. I

[2:04:41] believe it's actually 10 x 12. Is that correct?

[2:04:44] » Yes. >> It's it's 8 by 12.

[2:04:47] » 8 by 12. 8 by 12. >> Yeah.

[2:04:53] Number five is just the not have a lot coverage problem here.

[2:04:59] » However, the calculations on the plan just need to be cleaned up a little bit

[2:05:02] for the zoning off. >> There's no as far as you're you're under

[2:05:08] your maximum coverage. You're not proposing so much coverage that you

[2:05:12] would require be required to do so management. um

[2:05:16] heads up that you'll have to clean up the calculations and so on.

[2:05:20] » I will use this version the the one I give to

[2:05:23] » Yeah. Know I I saw that there's there's a couple little things, nothing major.

[2:05:33] » Number six, uh you're not removing any trees. It looks like

[2:05:40] not right.

[2:05:44] comment number seven. You you'll need to show on the plan when you submit for

[2:05:48] your permit.

[2:05:52] » Yeah, >> you'll have to uh quantify that.

[2:05:55] » Yeah, it's about 500 square feet. 500 and 2500 is less.

[2:06:05] » That'll the engineering department will review that.

[2:06:08] » Okay. >> Um it's something you'll have to do even

[2:06:10] if you didn't need a variance. We have to know that if if you if you hit 2500

[2:06:15] square feet, you'll have to provide soil erosion

[2:06:25] eight. uh as part of your your permitting um work within the Battle

[2:06:32] Hill Road rightway which is your plan shows that you will be just maybe you

[2:06:36] won't end up being >> I I don't

[2:06:39] » be aware that if you uh right now it shows your driveway will be

[2:06:44] expanded a little bit in the rightway area. You can certainly trim that back

[2:06:48] touch the right of way and it'll be less paperwork and

[2:06:52] » Yeah. Yeah.

[2:06:59] Mr. Quinn

[2:07:09] one

[2:07:20] Right.

[2:07:40] » I will I will just maintain the existing driveway because I just draw line there.

[2:07:46] » Yeah. Yeah. Because otherwise you're going to be in the town for a permit.

[2:07:53] I I had some I had some issues with the scaling on the plan.

[2:08:01] Went through that with Dave and the engineer.

[2:08:05] Had some problems with some of the scaling.

[2:08:13] That would take care of

[2:08:19] Also note that your impervious cover calculations seem to improve

[2:08:25] right away. Three, four or five impervious cover

[2:08:30] calculations that'll be before you go back.

[2:08:36] That's common is typical topography.

[2:09:09] Mr. Quinn. Um, and then we have the environmental uh commission's review

[2:09:15] letter dated June 22nd, 2026. um plan calculation for coverage in

[2:09:21] chart F amount is different for coverage know that what's that's in reference to

[2:09:27] I don't >> that's in reference to the the issues

[2:09:29] with the coverage calculations that >> okay so um

[2:09:37] uh the environmental commission notes that due to the site and surrounding

[2:09:40] topography stormwater best management practices should be given you're not

[2:09:44] over an impervious coverage here so um And do you have any issues with your

[2:09:49] water? Any flooding on the property? Any issues right now with where water is

[2:09:53] going? Um, that settles two and three.

[2:10:00] Uh, due to the age of the existing dwelling, the environmental commission

[2:10:03] would like the applicant to be aware for the potential for inground tanks, lead

[2:10:07] paint, and asbestous. Just just take proper precaution during any if you're

[2:10:11] demoing any of the walls or anything or digging into the ground.

[2:10:16] Um, and then they're also asking that you consider recycling, repurposing, or

[2:10:21] gifting any um of the material that is demolished from the property. Try to

[2:10:27] repurpose or recycle. Um, do you have any issues with the

[2:10:32] environmental conditions letter? Um, oh, did you speak with your

[2:10:38] neighbors? Did you speak with any of your neighbors about this about your

[2:10:42] proposed new garage? >> I have no issue. Nobody's had nobody has

[2:10:46] any problems with it. Um, does anybody have any questions?

[2:10:50] » Another one just because I want to make sure it's really you said no trees were

[2:10:54] coming but on the side here

[2:10:58] » I sure it's not much of a tree but >> very it's unhealthy is very small. So

[2:11:04] » it it's fine. Just just make sure for the record we know you've taken down

[2:11:07] » okay one. >> Thank you. And besides that that's also

[2:11:11] one small like this tall. >> Yeah the little bush. Yeah, that's fine.

[2:11:15] But just >> Okay, we're relocated.

[2:11:17] » That's okay. It's just you want to make sure that you're accurate when you're

[2:11:20] saying that you are taking down a tree. >> Yeah. Thank you.

[2:11:24] » By the way, I planned like maybe 20 trees on my yard.

[2:11:29] » Yeah. Looking at this, I don't think that's a problem to take that one down.

[2:11:33] » So, one tree would be removed. Yeah. >> With the Okay.

[2:11:35] » Yeah. this slide

[2:11:40] size of the diameter of the >> if it's under six inch caliper diameter

[2:11:45] it doesn't count

[2:11:48] » I know that >> you're just relocating

[2:11:53] » it would have to be like this big

[2:11:59] » to replace

[2:12:06] plan is to relocate this tree.

[2:12:12] » Not the tree.

[2:12:16] » As part of the permit process, you'll have to identify it if it's more than

[2:12:21] six. Measure the diameter of the trunk.

[2:12:27] Mark it on your plan. And the engineering department keeps track of

[2:12:31] the trees removed. within a certain number of years.

[2:12:38] Have to do anything right now with this one.

[2:12:46] » Four feet high.

[2:12:57] » Does anybody have any questions? M >> on the shed. Is the shed built on a

[2:13:03] concrete pad? I don't think so. I don't know.

[2:13:09] » Probably

[2:13:13] hogs go under. >> I see. So,

[2:13:17] » because it was on a concrete pad that would be difficult to move. So, uh is

[2:13:21] there a reason you don't want to move it back 10 feet uh to 10 feet?

[2:13:33] I think maybe 20 years more than 20 years old because I recently I just

[2:13:38] changed the roof. >> Is that old?

[2:13:43] I open the zoo is

[2:13:47] » 20 years old. >> Okay. I also changed it.

[2:13:52] I also asked my neighbor about this shed in here.

[2:13:58] » So you discuss the shed with your neighbor?

[2:13:59] » I ask them. Yeah. >> Okay. Good. before they move in. Before

[2:14:03] we move in, it's all

[2:14:09] applyation and

[2:14:17] like you have some trees that are kind of streaming.

[2:14:21] Uh it's a huge pine tree but just uh before I submit this application a storm

[2:14:29] just uh right now is totally

[2:14:38] but right now it's a lot of bush. >> Oh okay bushes bushes are

[2:14:44] » and underneath is

[2:15:09] house. House

[2:15:26] this case >> as a side.

[2:15:28] » Yeah. If if this was if if Battle Hill Road was a sideyard as it functions, the

[2:15:33] setback would be 30 feet because the applicant would be going closer to the

[2:15:36] property line.

[2:15:47] It would be compliant. >> It would be compliant. Yes. Even with

[2:15:50] » if it was a sideyard, but we're counting it as a front yard.

[2:15:54] » Okay. >> There was a front yard by virtue of

[2:15:57] » And this is the house, not the shed. We jumped.

[2:15:59] » We're talking about the house. >> The house, not the shed.

[2:16:01] » I just wanted to >> clarifying because we jumped from one

[2:16:04] subject to the next. >> Yes. Um,

[2:16:08] back to the shed. I would assume if there are any issues with the neighbors,

[2:16:12] you could just screen it trees or um some shrubs if you know, right? If any

[2:16:18] neighbor had any issues um that so that I don't really have any comments. Does

[2:16:24] anybody else have any questions or comments for Does anybody from the

[2:16:28] public have any questions? Um do you want to give us a summary? I

[2:16:34] » I'll take a stab at it. Um yeah, there was no public.

[2:16:40] » Thank you. >> Um okay, two variances. Uh one back of

[2:16:44] the uh principal dwelling by virtue of

[2:16:54] head sideyard setback.

[2:17:01] Um as far as conditions go,

[2:17:10] Oh, I'm sorry. June 22nd.

[2:17:17] » Um, and I didn't ask you. Did you have anything else you wanted to add? I

[2:17:21] should have asked you first before we summarized. Did you have anything else?

[2:17:26] Okay. Um, seeing none. So, uh, does anybody want to kick us off?

[2:17:30] » Um, sure. Um, I'm not really seeing any negative impacts here. Um, I think it's

[2:17:36] an improvement to the house to add the twocar garage. Um, so I'd be in favor of

[2:17:43] approving it. Um, I don't know what others think, but I don't I don't see

[2:17:49] any negative impact here. >> Is is that a is that a motion brewing?

[2:17:54] » I can do the motion if you if everyone agrees.

[2:17:58] » Is that a motion? >> Okay. Um, so I would make a motion to

[2:18:02] deem the application complete and ask our board attorney to draft a resolution

[2:18:08] um approving the um set setback variances that have been requested

[2:18:15] um and that it include all of the um conditions that our um experts have

[2:18:21] stipulated um and grant the relief requested by the

[2:18:26] applicant.

[2:18:30] garage and then C2 for the >> Oh, I wasn't thinking C1, but that's

[2:18:38] Is it a hardship here? Uh, in your opinion,

[2:18:41] » you argued that the corner lot >> and

[2:18:46] Battle Hill Road was 5yard side of the house is aligned with

[2:18:54] a garage edition here. That's on those grounds. It could be argued that yes, a

[2:18:59] C1. >> Okay. Then yes,

[2:19:02] » argued that >> I agree with our board attorney on it

[2:19:06] being a C1 and C2 >> and I will go ahead and second it. Thank

[2:19:12] you, Miss Trap. Miss Silver, Miss Trap.

[2:19:17] » Krauss, >> yes.

[2:19:18] » Leazinski, >> yes.

[2:19:20] » Mr. Lindamman, >> yes.

[2:19:22] » Miss Pear, >> yes.

[2:19:23] » Miss Silver, >> yes. Miss Trap.

[2:19:25] » Yes. >> Chairwoman Bowman.

[2:19:27] » Yes. >> Thank you.

[2:19:28] » Good luck with your project. Thank you. >> Sorry. Who seconded that motion?

[2:19:32] » Miss Trap.

[2:19:42] » Thank you.

[2:19:46] » We uh >> Yeah.

[2:19:50] » Come on. We're gonna >> All right. So, next on the agenda is

[2:19:55] Kokoinski. Gregory. Oh, I'm sorry. Gregory Kokoinski and

[2:20:01] Amanda Hawkstein. >> Did I get it right? Thank you. Uh, and

[2:20:07] that's block 4102, lot 5. Let me make sure I'm reading the right. Uh, 28

[2:20:11] Lexington Road, bulk variance, ZB26-02.

[2:20:16] » Yes, correct. >> Welcome.

[2:20:18] Madam chair, before I swear everybody in, I'll just note that the applicants

[2:20:21] did provide adequate notice for this hearing. Uh everything checked out. It's

[2:20:25] good in my legal opinion. The board is jurisdiction here and decide the case.

[2:20:28] So notes version. Let me swear uh the applicants in as well as uh their

[2:20:33] engineers. >> All five of you can raise your right

[2:20:36] hands for me. Thank you very much. To all five of you swear or from testimony

[2:20:39] about the truth, the whole truth. >> I do.

[2:20:42] » I do much. Uh state your names and addresses for the record.

[2:20:45] » Sure. My name is Gregory Kokazinski. live at 28 Lexington Road in Basking

[2:20:49] Ridge. >> Um, Amanda Hawking, 28 Lexington Road,

[2:20:52] Basking Ridge. Sorry, I'm so close. >> Microphone's weird.

[2:20:56] » I'm sorry. Find that right balance. >> Exactly.

[2:21:02] » So, uh, you want to tell us a little bit about why you're here?

[2:21:05] » Yeah, no problem. Uh, so we moved to town nine years ago, bought our house,

[2:21:10] had a beautiful pool, patio. Very long story short, the pool started the

[2:21:15] concrete in the pool started chipping away at the end of last season. So, we

[2:21:18] knew that it was time to resurface the pool. And with resurfacing the concrete

[2:21:22] pool, then all the pavs had to come up from around the pool. And if we were

[2:21:27] doing the paviors up by the pool, we were going to do the pavers that we

[2:21:29] already had down by the house as well. So, we started doing this work. I got a

[2:21:34] call from the zoning department essentially saying, "Hey, you need a

[2:21:37] permit for this." which I didn't realize knowing we were just like essentially

[2:21:42] redoing. I didn't realize what was going on. We're first-time homeowners. So,

[2:21:46] obviously put a stop on it immediately, hired an engineer, like went the whole

[2:21:51] nine, went in for the permit, and then when we applied for the permit, we were

[2:21:54] told we were already over on our coverage, that we don't have coverage of

[2:21:58] 18%. We actually had already had 19.83 when we moved in. So now we're just sort

[2:22:04] of back at square one trying to figure out the project trying to So we're just

[2:22:09] trying to make our backyard a little nicer, trying to put in some new brick,

[2:22:12] make it a little bigger. We've already tried uh to pull back on the coverage in

[2:22:16] existing places where we already have it. We have a shed in the backyard that

[2:22:19] we'll get rid of. Uh a couple other spots around the house that we're trying

[2:22:23] to trim back on, but that's more or less where we're at

[2:22:27] right now. We're not trying to come for some crazy percentage. We just want to

[2:22:33] make it a little nicer and a little bigger. And that's more

[2:22:39] » who took these photographs.

[2:22:45] » Oh, okay. Uh, our landscaper, Scott Parker.

[2:22:47] » Okay. And do you know approximately when you were

[2:22:50] » I would assume in April. >> Okay. And uh these accurately depict the

[2:22:53] subject property. >> Yes.

[2:22:55] » Yes. >> I had to talk to your neighbors about

[2:22:59] the project. >> Yes. So, uh, the Rothbards who were just

[2:23:02] approved for their variants, they live right behind us. We've talked Yeah. Uh,

[2:23:07] » so we've been talking a lot about varants.

[2:23:08] » Yes. And both neighbors on both sides and across the street, no problems.

[2:23:13] Everybody's on board. Some people did threaten to come as like a rooting

[2:23:17] section, but they they stayed home. >> Lucky for them.

[2:23:22] Um,

[2:23:26] » so you're essentially you've essentially been sort of reconstructing what was

[2:23:30] already there. Yes. When you purchased the house. Um, all right. So, does

[2:23:34] anybody have any questions? >> Um, we're going to motor this along.

[2:23:39] Does anybody have any questions? >> You didn't do any work yet. It's just

[2:23:42] » No, we we started doing work in April and that was when I got the call from

[2:23:46] somebody in the zoning department. >> This is asis. It's a I mean that's

[2:23:49] » that's what it was before we started the work.

[2:23:50] » Oh, and you so you took up some of the of the papers already. Okay.

[2:23:54] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[2:23:55] » So, is it correct that you're I'm looking at this your existing was

[2:23:59] » 20 >> I I don't I didn't know where that

[2:24:02] number came from because the initial >> the initial word I got from the town

[2:24:07] when we applied for the permit was that you're already at 19.83.

[2:24:11] » Okay. >> So, I don't know where the 20.54 came

[2:24:14] from. >> Okay. And then your proposed is 19.81.

[2:24:17] 81.

[2:24:27] » Okay. >> Oh, okay.

[2:24:32] » They're all off on this chart for some reason.

[2:24:35] » Yeah. >> So, why don't we um if you're going to

[2:24:38] Why don't you come on up? You can even sit at that

[2:24:42] um chair right there and participate.

[2:24:48] question or was that >> engineer Mr. Galler

[2:24:54] and uh

[2:24:58] » sure um can everybody hear me? Um it's Anthony Gallerano with the firm of

[2:25:03] Harbor Consultants. Uh I'm a licensed engineer, licensed planner since 1988.

[2:25:10] My uh education uh is a bachelor

[2:25:20] Um since then I have testified throughout the state on various uh

[2:25:26] I also provide uh consulting services to various boards and municipalities

[2:25:32] uh in the capacity of engineer and

[2:25:40] um I was planning on doing both uh talking about going through the site

[2:25:44] plan, you know, the plot plan first and then just finishing up with the barrel.

[2:25:49] » You said your license is in good standing.

[2:25:51] » Yes, still. >> Thank you. We will accept you as an

[2:25:54] expert. Thank you. Um, want to Is there anything else that you

[2:26:01] want to add before we >> Fine, Tony K,

[2:26:04] if you could just because you picked it up. You were giving some.

[2:26:08] » Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just just real quick. I don't want to take away this

[2:26:12] time, but just this is our you know plan that was submitted to the uh to the

[2:26:15] board and um we we were retained after the work was already started. Um

[2:26:20] fortunately the contractor did have the before pictures. So before that work was

[2:26:24] started we actually had pictures document what was there but um

[2:26:28] fortunately there was a 2017 survey that the applicant had from when he bought

[2:26:33] the property. So we have a good snapshot of what was on the ground u before the

[2:26:39] work was started. Uh we then went out and did a supplemental survey and up on

[2:26:44] the top um left of the of the of the plan is the um kind of the asbuilt

[2:26:50] what's there now. This is kind of the work in progress. We went out and we

[2:26:53] surveyed what was on the ground just to establish um what the the coverages are.

[2:26:58] And then on the top right is what the applicant is proposing um which is uh

[2:27:05] continue to finish the work uh complete the papers uh and um again that's why

[2:27:12] they're here asking for the variance. Um they are planning to remove the shed and

[2:27:17] some of the existing sidewalk uh in order to help you know mitigate the the

[2:27:22] additional moving a shed removing some existing

[2:27:26] sidewalks uh and then again to help uh get bal

[2:27:30] balance. So um just to get into the numbers um

[2:27:35] again there was a question about what the uh

[2:27:39] coverage were. So we we um actually forgot to include the uh the pool pad,

[2:27:46] the pump pad for the pool, the generator pad and the air conditioning pads. So

[2:27:51] that actually add it adds an additional 55 square ft. So um the numbers are a

[2:27:57] little different than what we had on the plan but if we look at the pre-existing

[2:28:01] conditions what was there what we documented in 2017

[2:28:07] uh the impervious coverage was 7,399 square ft which equated to n equates to

[2:28:13] 19.97%. uh what's there now with the work that's

[2:28:18] in progress uh equates to 7,666 square feet of total impervious which is

[2:28:26] 2069% and what we're showing as the proposed

[2:28:31] with everything being removed and adjusted is 7,397

[2:28:36] square ft uh which equates to 19.96% when um we were first retained

[2:28:44] » we were going for the 26 Well, I'm I'm I'm going to get there. So, um when we

[2:28:49] were first retained, the first thing we did, we we put our plan together,

[2:28:52] submitted it to the zoning officer, we weren't aware either that uh we know it

[2:28:56] was over the 18%. Uh but we weren't aware that um apparently there was no

[2:29:01] record of previous permits. Um so, when they bought the property in 2017, this

[2:29:06] is what was there. Um you know, nobody had any idea whether were permits or

[2:29:10] not. Most people don't don't know that and really don't know what their

[2:29:13] coverage is. Um, so then that's why we we we submitted the app.

[2:29:20] Um, looking at the um the pictures, looking at the style of the pavers, the

[2:29:25] amount of weathering, I my estimate is they're probably at least 30 years old.

[2:29:30] Um, just looking at the style, looking at the way they're weathered. I we've

[2:29:33] done a lot of these. I've seen a lot of papers over the years. Kind of get a

[2:29:37] feel for the age of how old they are. Um, so I know we submitted the

[2:29:43] application, we to the zoning officer, we're trying to match what was there.

[2:29:46] That's what ended up in the application here tonight. Um, looking back and

[2:29:51] discussing it with the applicant. They would like try to keep what's on the

[2:29:55] ground, which is the 20.69%. Um, again, I I kind of pushed them to do

[2:30:02] the 19.96. I was trying to just match what was there, but since they were

[2:30:06] coming here, I you know, we maybe just um percentage. So uh you know it's it's

[2:30:13] 18% is permitted what is upon pre-existing 19.97 they would

[2:30:21] average it would be 20 uh 69%. So it's um you know less than a 1% percent

[2:30:30] increase in the cover. um

[2:30:34] the the physical characteristics of the site, the everything drains from the

[2:30:38] back to the to the front. So all the runoff goes from the back of the

[2:30:41] property and runs out uh into Lexington. Um there's no runoff either currently or

[2:30:48] proposed that would go on to any um actually the uh they're taking

[2:30:53] actually some runoff from the adjoining pre-existing runoff pattern. It is what

[2:30:58] it is. Um there's no um proposal to really regrade the property. The grades

[2:31:04] are stay uh just the disturbance is really just

[2:31:07] limited to around the pool and area in the rear.

[2:31:14] So which lends itself to the uh you know leads into the variance. Um obviously

[2:31:20] it's a it's a C2 variance. Um from the negative criteria standpoint we

[2:31:26] really don't see any impact.

[2:31:31] um run property. Uh there's no trees being

[2:31:36] removed.

[2:31:40] Patio actually in the rear, you know, it's kind of tucked in behind the house,

[2:31:46] the garage, so it's really not even visible. Um it's

[2:31:53] fielded on or screened on

[2:31:58] um so again I I don't I don't see that having having any negative impact uh

[2:32:03] from the uh positive criteria. This is really a I call it a modernization of

[2:32:08] the property. Um significant uh aesthetic improvement

[2:32:15] favors uh coming in with newer um new papers, modern papers,

[2:32:21] papers have come a long way since the 90s, you know, as far as styles, colors,

[2:32:25] textures, uh and it selection then today there's like a million different styles

[2:32:31] and patterns, colors that you you can pick.

[2:32:36] I think that the uh again the both criteria are met. My opinion, I think

[2:32:41] the balance system

[2:32:47] And that's all I have as far as as direct

[2:32:53] fence around the pool and then around the property.

[2:32:55] » There is just a fence around the property. There was there was a fence

[2:32:58] around the pool originally when the papers came up. The fence is no.

[2:33:02] » Okay. So the black fence that we've seen the pictures removed. Okay.

[2:33:10] » Um and Mr. Quinn, do you see any need for um

[2:33:15] water mitigation measures here. I don't think we have no

[2:33:35] 800 square ft.

[2:33:39] Not over on effective impervious car.

[2:34:09] Back

[2:34:12] there.

[2:34:17] Before

[2:34:25] you go on in to that point, um your numbers are are just a little bit

[2:34:32] different from what you originally asked and what you're asking now. So, does the

[2:34:37] um proposed conditions plan that we're looking at accurately depict what you're

[2:34:43] asking for? Is that the 20.69 69 or are we going to have a little bit more PA by

[2:34:49] the patio by the house? >> Yeah, it would be additional um like

[2:34:54] what you see what what's in the existing condition

[2:34:59] on the proposed conditions is taking back some of these papers.

[2:35:06] That's what's what you see basically look like um show an existing

[2:35:13] condition. I mean the papers some of the papers

[2:35:17] around the pool weren't laid down yet.

[2:35:21] Idea would be to finish pavers around the pool and then keep

[2:35:28] and then how about the walkway that's proposed on your proposed plan? Would

[2:35:33] you have that in addition to what's showing on the existing condition?

[2:35:37] » Yeah, they like to have that just to connect the the patio to the to the pool

[2:35:40] » and that's in the 20.6 >> that's already included. Yes.

[2:35:44] » And what about the shed? Are you still removing that or no?

[2:35:47] » Are you still removing the shed? Are you still proposing to remove the

[2:35:52] shed? >> Yeah. with the help get this across

[2:35:59] » shown on the existing condition demo plan as to be removed saying you're not

[2:36:05] removing that now. >> Well, they would like to keep

[2:36:07] » we'd like to keep it and finish the work at this point.

[2:36:13] » We're going to remove that. Okay. >> Step back is what you said. That's why I

[2:36:19] asked if you wanted to keep that you got >> No problem. Not removing these papers.

[2:36:33] » Yeah. 20.7.

[2:36:36] That's about 996.

[2:36:55] » Oh yeah. Total square. Yeah. Total total different.

[2:37:00] Um they'reable.

[2:37:06] 60. It's 6,670 is allow

[2:37:11] 70,000

[2:37:15] square feet, >> but our typical threshold is for

[2:37:24] » but again I would notice of that 800

[2:37:30] square ft of effective impervious cover

[2:37:35] wanted to make provides storm water management.

[2:37:46] » What What would that look like? >> Uh um

[2:37:51] » drywall.

[2:38:05] I said a rain barrel. >> Even better. That's great.

[2:38:09] » Couple rain barrels. >> I mean,

[2:38:11] » like 30 or 35 gallons. So, >> yeah. Yeah. Like to do with patios.

[2:38:15] Patios is kind of a challenge to get the water direct

[2:38:20] in the past. Uh like on the low side of the patio run an infiltration train.

[2:38:35] Yeah, I can work that out with Tom and we could work out those details.

[2:38:38] » That sounds sensible in his case. >> It might be over.

[2:38:47] » A a concrete patio. Yes. But a paper patio.

[2:38:51] » Well, yeah. Initially, no, because they have sand in between.

[2:39:04] put that into.

[2:39:10] » So Tom, do we want to um do you want to finish your since we were on your your

[2:39:16] uh memo anyway? >> Talked about the discover Tony added the

[2:39:22] pads that were talked about. Oh yeah, and you actually I see

[2:39:30] We're not going over whatever you give us.

[2:39:33] » Yeah, you got it. >> Also, there's no there's I don't know if

[2:39:39] has you

[2:39:46] » aware that you may or

[2:39:54] » No problem. >> No problem.

[2:39:57] Okay. God, that was

[2:40:05] » okay. Um, can we be clear on what the number is because we said 20.69 or 20.7.

[2:40:10] Are you saying 20? >> I was just rounding it up. I mean, I the

[2:40:14] exact calculation was 20.

[2:40:24] We'll take seven just to have a little >> buffer

[2:40:27] » little buffer room.

[2:40:31] » Uh Mr. Schlly >> like to address anything in your memo.

[2:40:49] One point there is the uh excess coverage is patio and at the pool and

[2:40:55] the patio behind the house at some point.

[2:40:57] » Sorry. >> I'm at number four. sure if there's

[2:41:00] going to be any exterior lighting and all that.

[2:41:07] » Five, any trees removed? >> No.

[2:41:16] » Which permitted the engineering

[2:41:37] Yeah.

[2:41:54] » Yes.

[2:42:02] Edstein, do you have any questions?

[2:42:06] » Edstein, do you have any comments?

[2:42:11] » Is anybody sleeping in the background? >> Um,

[2:42:18] read all the stipulations in the in the memos. And um, does anybody have any

[2:42:22] questions?

[2:42:25] Um before we go, not counting deliberations, any comments? Um did you

[2:42:30] have anything else you wanted to add? >> No.

[2:42:36] Um we get to go to a summary. >> Yep.

[2:42:41] » Applicants are seeking a >> time out. I'm sorry. I had a question.

[2:42:47] » How well screened are you in the back? I see trees

[2:42:51] into your neighbors properties. Uh, let's see. The Millers,

[2:43:01] » I don't know what that is. >> Um, it's not it's not necessarily

[2:43:04] required as as far as like trees. Um, with pools, we typically look to have,

[2:43:10] you know, privacy. >> Oh, yeah. We we have hedges behind the

[2:43:13] pool. >> Okay.

[2:43:14] » And then for 14, there's hedges behind

[2:43:23] Yeah.

[2:43:27] » There was the shed was giving

[2:43:33] » and there's like a row of of trees between us and the Roth bars directly

[2:43:37] behind us. >> Okay.

[2:43:38] » Yeah, not a problem if we have to put something along the border of

[2:43:42] » um walked in the backyard and the trees in

[2:43:46] the back my my recollection is they were more

[2:43:53] You're talking about the trees are budding 14.

[2:43:56] » Um budding 14. Yes.

[2:44:00] » Massive trees. >> Yeah.

[2:44:02] » They're they're >> I think I believe they're evergreen. I

[2:44:05] don't think

[2:44:09] » but it was somewhat open to some of the other

[2:44:11] » Okay. Um so maybe like in the area of the shed consider putting some you know

[2:44:17] » happily. >> Sure.

[2:44:21] something that's native to New Jersey that what would thrive and maybe stay

[2:44:25] green all year round. >> Privacy in your neighbor's privacy.

[2:44:28] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[2:44:30] » Not looking for total screening, but just create a semblance of privacy so

[2:44:34] nobody's really looking in and um that being said, any other questions

[2:44:40] or comments? Not I seeing none. Um sorry, Mr. Subieski, if you would take

[2:44:45] back

[2:44:50] One lot one variants being requested lot coverage ratio

[2:45:14] water management measures to mitigate coverage exceedence.

[2:45:26] 200 square feet to cover 200 square.

[2:45:33] Then the other condition landscape screening

[2:45:45] want to um comments, questions or no questions comments kick us off.

[2:45:55] Anybody want to make a motion? Somebody want to make a motion?

[2:45:58] » I can do it. Uh, I see this as a C2 variance and would like to make a motion

[2:46:05] to deem the application complete and direct the board attorney to draft the

[2:46:09] resolution memorializing the variance request.

[2:46:15] » Grant the relief requested by the applicants.

[2:46:18] » I'll second. >> Well done, Miss Trap and Mr. Krauss.

[2:46:23] » Mr. Krauss, >> yes.

[2:46:24] » Mr. Leazinski, >> yes.

[2:46:26] » Mr. Lindamman, >> yes. Miss Pur,

[2:46:29] » Miss Silver, >> yes.

[2:46:30] » Miss Trap, >> yes.

[2:46:31] » Chairwoman Bowman, >> yes.

[2:46:33] » Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Good luck.

[2:46:35] » Thank you very much for your time tonight.

[2:46:37] » Good night. >> Finish the project.

[2:46:40] » Uh, next on the agenda, uh, is the 2025 zoning board of

[2:46:45] adjustment annual report and recommendations. My recommendation is we

[2:46:48] are going to kick that can.

[2:46:53] » Um, >> great report. Yeah,

[2:46:55] » great report. Um, but I think we're going to look maybe to address this at

[2:46:59] another at the next meeting. >> I'll be here.

[2:47:06] » Um, did was anybody dying to talk about that tonight?

[2:47:09] » Any comments to mention tonight? >> Um, no. I I just Sorry. I just have one

[2:47:14] question though because sheds come up a lot here.

[2:47:19] » Yep. 10 feet off of the property line. For so

[2:47:23] many people, that practically puts the shed in the middle of their backyard as

[2:47:27] opposed to trying to be on the side where you want it out of the way and you

[2:47:31] can enjoy your property space a little bit better. I mean,

[2:47:34] » that might be an excellent suggestion for the annual report.

[2:47:41] » There we go. >> That we're going to discuss at the next

[2:47:44] meeting. That's I just wanted to >> or the next meeting.

[2:47:50] Um, so do I have to say anything to Carrie? We're just going to carry that

[2:47:54] item. >> Yeah, it's not a hearing or anything.

[2:47:56] So, just whenever we get to >> um,

[2:47:58] » let's keep it on the agenda. >> Other than Miss Trap's excellent

[2:48:01] suggestion, do we have any other comments from members?

[2:48:05] » Comments from staff. >> Do we have a motion to adjurnn?

[2:48:09] » I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll second it quickly. Octar and Miss

[2:48:14] Trap. All in favor? I

[2:48:19] question.

Bernards Township Zoning Board of Adjustment Regular Meeting - 7:30PM September 9, 2026

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